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Episode Date: October 10, 2025

Brice and Jack are back with this week’s Survivor News, and whew, Episode 3 of Survivor 49 was one for the books! From a shocking snake bite that turned into a terrifying medical evacuation to blindsides that left jaws on the floor, this episode had everything. The guys break down the chaos, the strategy, and the emotional fallout from one of the wildest hours of Survivor in years. You already know—it’s messy, it’s dramatic, and it’s giving Survivor at its absolute best!

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We are back with the Purple Pants podcast, Survivor News, covering Survivor Season 49, Episode 3. Spring Break is upon us, and I am back with the baby boy, the man, the myth, the one who the posse and San Diego asks, for Mr. Jack Atkins,

Jack Garee, what's popping with you? What's up? It's the man, the myth, the legend, J-A-C-K, A-T-I-N-S, baby. Yeah, good to be back, man. I know you guys were just in San Francisco and Wendell's on a plane right now, somewhere in California, I think you said. So we had, and I know you just flew back this morning from San Francisco. So it's like, I'm glad we had this.

between you to sit down and talk about this episode. Yeah, it's a lot. I don't know if it's a lot to unpack, but certainly a lot to talk about with this episode. And I'm excited to dive in. And I'm sure the posse is like, yes, they're getting straight to the episode. But no, Wendo and I were in San Francisco in my mind this morning

because I did not go to sleep. I hopped on a plane. I'm back in Philadelphia because you know the baby boy. If it's not one thing, if it's not two thing, the baby boy got jobs, the baby boy got jobs, the baby boy got podcast and it's been a day. San Francisco Jack was a vibe. The Bay Area, I love it. I always, and I feel like I said this a million times last night where it's like when people ask like, would you ever leave Philly? And I'm like, absolutely. They're like, would you ever go out

west? And I'm like, no, because when I consider the West Coast, I consider L.A. And I love visiting L.A. I have very dear friends. You know, my baby boy Jack is there. My little brother Jared is there. My man, my man. and Austin is there. So I have a lot of connections in my bestie Desi is in LA. I have a lot of connections in Los Angeles. But I don't know, it just, it don't feel like, I don't know. I don't know if I would be able to survive.

But when I go to the Bay Jack, it feels like Philly of the West Coast. Just the energy, the people. I mean, it's just a little grungy. Did I have to like walk over human feces a couple of times? I'm just getting to the store. Yes. But the Bay Area is, it feels home. So I absolutely love it.

Wendo and I were there for Bryce and Wynne 49, the Blueprint, San Francisco. And it definitely did not disappoint with the episode. And when DZJack, he said, come to my room. I said, oh, okay. And to my surprise, I am pulling up to his room. and the door is cracked. And I'm like, what is going on? Let me give you some visual.

Oh, dreams do come true. My God. This guy. Where all the shirts at, man. I don't know, but you can. When you and Jake just shirtless? Oh, dreams do come true. That's what it felt like, Jack.

And it was interesting. If it was the listeners who are watching, that was a video of Bryce goes into Wendell's room and Jake from the current season is sitting right in front of the door on a chair, no shirt on, just expectantly for Bryce. It was very interesting. And when we got to meet Jake

before the episode, he came to San Francisco for the Bryce and Wendon. We're truly appreciative. Again, just anyone that comes to our event, we're always appreciative, any of the alum, but it takes a certain type of person to want to come out to a public event when you know that you are, spoiler alert, going home and not at your own conviction, maybe at the word.

And I feel like the last time we experienced that was on the West Coast, you happen to be there, Jack. I think it was like Survivor Season 46, 44 with Matt. Matthew, climbing the rock. And so it was just, it was crazy. And just getting to know Jake, I was a little nervous about me and Jake, you know, sometimes some survivor contestants, you know, the latter. I don't know how they're going to receive the Bryce Isaiah Richers.

But Jake multiple times was like, I listened to the podcast. And I'm like, oh, okay, sure, sure. And so as the night progresses, as, you know, Jake and I, you know, share a little wet in the whistle. Jake's like, you wanted to know about my nipple, right? I was like, oh, now you're speaking my language. And so we got the origin of why Jake had one nipple pierce. I said, oh, I love it. Is that something you can share for all the curious listeners at home about?

I feel like I can. So I was shocked that he even said that because when we talked about the nipple, That was like deep in episode. So that's how sometimes I can gauge when people. But anyway, he essentially said he had his nipple pierced as a teenager. And he only got one. And then he took it out. But after he took it out, that one nipple was always enlarged.

And so as an adult, he was like, he didn't just want one enlarged nipple. He was like, I'd rather just pierce it. So it looks like the nipple is enlarged because I have a nipple pierce it. make sense fair enough I guess he rocks he rocks it I'll say well Jake you want me to pierce the other nipple he said no no

brother I'm good I'm good I'm good but it was he could pierce the other nipple take them both out and they just just have two big nipples yeah you know you never know wouldn't be mad so it was just great there was so many amazing

people that pulled up and showed out at Bryson Wynn and we're just forever grateful San Francisco was definitely a time. We had Nassir was in the building. We had Joe Hunter. We had Kevin.

We had Anika. We had Shereen from Survivor season 30. It was just... And 31. And 31. Right. She played back to back. One of the originals to play back to back, you know,

reminds me of Michaela. It was just Janine Austin's mom, you know, my mother-in-law forever. Eva. Eva. Miss Eva, you know, I call her mom. But, you know, my mother-in-law. And so San Francisco was just absolutely a time.

There was also a lot of the posse in the building jack. And we were talking before we jumped on a podcast where, obviously, we've been podcasting for four or five years at this point. But at this point, it's like, I feel like it's our relationship. relationship, Jack, because, you know, Jack doesn't call me in the middle of the night like he used to. And when I randomly FaceTime Jack, Jack, we at the movies and he can't pick up. Sure, I was at the movies. Yeah, I was like, well, pick up, let me see.

But I forget that. I said, I want to buy a ticket, just don't you want. I want to go to the movies. But I forget, Jack, that people listen to our podcast. I just use this as like a catch-up for us to catch up. Yeah, I was just like, what's up? What you doing? Shout out to your mom.

Shout out to Ben. But just the posse is super strong in the Bay Area. And they love the baby boys. We got a lot of questions throughout the night. Let me see if I can. Where is John? Thank you. Thank you.

Jacarie! Yes. People learn from my presents, I guess. Where is John? Thank you. Thank you. Accurie! That is our good posse member, Sophie.

Sophie pulled up to Bryson Lynn when we first went to Chicago, her, her beautiful mom, and they wanted to know, where's the baby boy? Where's Jackery at? Sing them a song. And so we just appreciate the posse for always showing up. And shout out to our good posse member, Sophie. A lot to get into, a lot to talk about Jack. But before we even get into all.

of that. Can I also say real quick, if you're wondering where I'm at, this week, San Diego. Oh. Hold up. You heard it here first. The baby boys will be back together. We'll be in San Diego next week following San Diego. And also at the same time, while we're in San Diego, Ozzie will be in Washington, D.C., hosting a Survivor Watch Party with our good friend.

Hannah. We're doing a survivor and amazing race. Double duo in the District of Columbia. Tickets are almost sold out for that. So if you want to head to D.C. to kick it with Ozzy, we are sending caution in Joey. So the Bryson Wood

presence will be there. D.C. is bubbling. We've got Dallas. We've got Denver. We've got K.C. We've got Chicago. We've got Philadelphia. So the BWP Tour 49 is cooking. So click the link. in the Bryce and When present

Instagram or Twitter bio and get you a ticket and we will see you at a city near you. If you can just hear from my voice, I don't have a voice because I did a lot of screaming and a lot of crying last night, Jack. It was a very

interesting episode. It was a lot to unpack outside of the meat and potatoes of the episode. I definitely feel like there were some things happening that we got to see on the yellow tribe that I definitely want to talk about but wherever you want to go

I want to get it popping and kick it off I feel like we got to kick it off with the I don't want to I don't want to say it's the elephant in the room but the clear

standout because I don't want to call it a highlight because it was kind of a low light but the clear standout part of this episode was with your man your man your man Jake

Jake in the snake. Oh. That's the people I like to read, but they got a I think they had, they showed the handbook. I think there's something in there. I think you might have a quote in there

on how to handle a snake. Okay. Absolutely. But this was scary. It was very scary. And what I bounce

ominous or weird about the episode because even last week on Survivor News we talked about the preview that they gave with Jake when we picked Jake up from the airport Jake's like it's a big episode boys it's a big episode and so I just felt like

again this is an unprecedented thing that has happened to Survivor but I also just felt like with such a blatant and obvious preview that they gave us yes last week that I just knew it wouldn't end up the way that it ended up

and so like I just knew that they would check him out for medical and he will return but that's what I thought too yeah like I was I was shocked at how everything unfolded

but we know Jake was sitting on the beach and a snake came up and was looking for a sneaker and he didn't see it and all he saw was Jake's foot and it was

just very like scary just watching it because and I think Alex did a great job of narrating how when Jake came up and explained everything that happened and Jake goes the book and to any of the listeners that don't know when we're out on Survivor before during pregame and at Condorosa we go through a thing called Survivor School and that book that Alex brought out during the episode we like a four hour class even Jeff comes out we have like some survivor experts that will sit and talk to us about the region. We get the history. We learn

about the trees. We learn about the different fruits. They show us like different things that we can eat. And they talk about a lot of the snakes and the spiders and all this things. And like, so we like, we spend a lot of time and they do a really good job of prepping us. And

they also say like it hasn't happened before. And again, I was on the Philippines. So my book looked a lot different than in Fiji. They spend a lot of time. And a lot of people were asking me during the episode, is that book readily available? Like, where is that book kept? And so on Survivor, we have a thing called like the med box.

And so there are some people that are on medication that they have to take. Some people had asthma. We have sunscreen. And so there's like a box off of a trail that, like, if you need to take your medicine or you need to get sunscreen, we can always go there. And in the med box is that book that if we do find like a papaya or a berry and we're unsure we can like kind of check it out before we eat it. And so it was just as a resource guy.

And so it was interesting when Alex pulled it out and it's like the rarest, deadliest snake ever. And I'm like, what is happening? Yeah. And yeah, it was just very scary. And to be in the same building as Jake while this is happening, right? Where it's like, we come in, we have a good time. everyone's so excited to see everyone

and as the episode kind of takes this ominous turn it just gets quiet and I feel like the only thing that made it less scary for me was knowing that he is okay now right so like being in the room with him you're like all right we know he's still with us

but it was I did you know I also thought based on the because I had heard you know that the snake is highly venomous but that it doesn't always inject its venom. Like it'll bite, but it won't usually inject the venom. And then it's like what it was was a dry bite. And so I figured if it was a dry bite, it's pretty much harmless.

I thought he was going to be able to stay in the game. And so that was the real twist for me was that they had to pull him out. And that kind of, like that kind of surprised me. But definitely in the moment, like knowing how venomous that snake is. And you could see Alex be like, we're definitely supposed to stay away from that. because also you don't want to tell I'm like almost you don't want to tell

because also the way we learned about this in South Africa the way the snake venom works is you know the more your heart's pumping your blood is pumping the more it's going to circulate through your body

you don't want you want to stay not stressed you want to stay calm so your blood your heart is pumping slowly but obviously if you're like oh shoot I just got bit by a highly venomous snake like I'd probably be pretty stressed out

so you've got to like play cool um But yeah, it was like a wild situation. And I almost wonder like, I don't know. It's like how does that, it's never happened before. Yeah, ever. And again, shout out to Alex for keeping like knowing to keep Jake's composure, not trying to like exacerbate the situation to kind of like minimize a lot of

things while they're getting help and sometimes think. And I don't, I'm not even trying to be funny, but I feel like I've watched a lot of YouTube videos, I've seen a lot of stuff, and it's like, I know it's going to say a while, but I'm not trying to like be wild Bryce here, but if we're out hiking or we're like by ourselves and like, you were to get bit by a snake jet, give me your foot. I'm going to like, I'm going to be sucking at your foot.

I've seen enough movies and, like, I'm going, like, I would literally be trying to like suck the venom out. But that sounds crazy. But I'm just sad. I would be kind of over the top. I would go into Mama Bear mode. I would be, I probably will make the situation worse, even though I'm trying to make it better.

But for me, as the millennial that I am, I, while I'm watching the episode, and this is me more on my flight rewatching the episode, it was giving me ER vibes. The way they was like, we've never seen this type of footage before on Survivor where they got them on the, We've seen people on the gurney, but, like, they're taking him to, like, medical center.

Yeah. Like, we're talking to the doctor. And here come Jeff, all perky and clean popping through the thing. Like, I'm just like, Jeff, put on a wrinkled shirt. Like, you know, don't have your head on. Look like you just, like Jeff always just looks so perfect. But I also just love how Jeff, although we're shooting for a TV show and we know that in my mind of minds and being around Jeff and knowing how Jeff is like, I love the fact. of like how he's talking to Jake

and how he's like full transparency like clearly the cameras are here but like let's just talk this true like what's happening but again it was like the ER scenes for me I was like this is really really really crazy to watch and again

they're saying like we don't know like you said it could be a dry bite just so you know if I have a bite you it ain't never a dry bike okay it ain't never dry but and to know that some of his blood pressure and like the way

your mind can play tricks on you where it's like you didn't get bit by a snake but the way your body is responding due to like your mental status of like what's happening like it can F you up even more like that was the crazier part for me

and it just on another level in another realm when we say like our words have power and like when you should speak positive lead to yourself and when you should say like positive things and like when you say negative things and negative things always happen watching this it just really made me think of like what the doctor was saying that like your mind could as astrobate some of these symptoms that you don't even have because it was a dry bite but it's still something serious that like

you can't even return to the game friendly reminder speak positive to yourself speak positive affirmations get out of your head and even if you have to just wake up and look in the mirror say today's going to be a good day I am beautiful I love like that really oh great yeah when it comes to getting bit by a snake is a little bit and I snakes are like my biggest fear so if I got bit by a snake even if it like wasn't venomous I would be freaking out like if I were in Jake's shoes I probably would have had like a heart attack like I yeah I would have been stress in and especially him like kind of riding on the boat pretty chill and then he hits the dock and they're like get in the stretcher like i was like whoa that would i'll be like am i

about to die like god damn um but yeah ultimately and then that's what myself and it seemed like other people were kind of confused about and i know we're not doctors by any means but i thought given they figured out it was a dry bite you know maybe he'd be able to return to the game but i guess with Survivor, like the production, I guess they can kind of take zero risk. So right, maybe that's why they had to pull him. I also think maybe after an experience like that, especially being an expectant father, maybe he kind of gave them like the little wink of like, you can pull me. Like I don't want to take this risk, which is completely valid. Maybe it's just a phase you're going through. You'll get over it.

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and every step forward feels like progress. Not another wrong turn. Visit camh.ca to help us forge a better path for mental health care. Yeah, I feel like if I were in his shoes, I'd be like, it was a dry bite. Like, let me back in the game, you know what I mean? So what did you think?

Sometimes I hear what you're saying, but also I feel like when, and again, I would assume that this was ours, right? Because they have to monitor. And the reason that they gave was like, yeah, it looks like it was a dry bite, but we can't be a thousand percent certain. And the chance that there was a drop that got through. And two days later, given the living situations, giving your body's not operating, you're not eating, we wouldn't be able to see the signs of it right away, right? Like, you just being dehydrated and hungry, we would think that that's what it is, but they didn't want to take that chance. And also, sometimes I think with Survivor, say he has been out of the game for three hours and he's getting fluids. He's getting, they're clearly giving him something to eat.

They're clearly, you know, making, doing everything they can do to boost up his immune system and his body. There is also a level of like, is that fair for him to return now on this tribe that doesn't have fire that, that has. I guess it depends how long he stays out, has to stay out of the game. Because, yeah, if it's like 24, 48 hours, I feel like that's a little long. But if he had gone back the same afternoon, I think everyone would have been fine with that.

And that's partly why I think they were filming it to be like, if he does go back, we have to show that. Right. unfair happen. You know, give me, go ahead. I was going to say, the only one question I wanted to ask,

but I couldn't ask Jake at that time was, like, and again, what's editing, we see Alex and Jeremiah and Jake is off on the beach. Like, the one question I had was, where was the snake? Like, I'm just curious, like, did you, because when we heard the story of Jake telling it to us, it's like, he saw it, you know, and like, it's, I think I read someone that he had, like, maybe allegedly had his eyes closed. He was kind of like meditating, thinking about family and stuff.

So then I'm guessing maybe it was in the water and it slithered up and gave him a little bite. Because in my mind, I was like, did he see the snake? It was like, wear your shoes at. Or playing with it with his foot. It was like, hey, hey. And they're like, I don't know. But I mean, yeah, that's because I read, I did a little research. And like, apparently, even though they're highly venomous, they're very docile.

Apparently these snakes are very docile. they don't really like interact with humans they'll stay away from humans so yeah i'm kind of like maybe jake was like trying to play with the snake like give me a shoe give me a shoe well yeah that's the i have some i have so not to make light of the situation but obviously because everything worked out okay um and you know jake got to go witness the birth of his child which is sort of like i'm kind of Like, did Jake slip this snake a couple dollars to just a dry bite? Give me out of here. I could go, I played Survivor, and then I could go catch my son's birthday.

Like, give me $20. I'll give you a venomous bite. Give me $80. Give you a dry bite. Jake was like, give me the dry bite. But, and again, and clearly we're just joking. And I have met Jake. And I know Jake, I can jerk Jake's chicken.

but in what I'm saying is going with your theory knowing you got a son back at home you see the snake you're like yo I got $80 you got a dry bite for me the snake like give me the foot you leave and in these press

interviews and we see Jeff saying they love a returning season of unfinished business and Jeff essentially saying that Jake will be back like it's almost similar to Jeff So he didn't say Jake will be back But he said that Jake has unfinished business

And Jeff loves a returney season And that's kind of what I was going to say too Is like you could probably ask Jake And if he ends up going back Then it's like he got that little survivor experience He gets to go witness his son's birth And then if he comes back again Then it's like

It kind of all worked out for the best So that's the snake was a paid actor Also the irony that the snake Bites him on the foot when he was stealing all the shoes. I'm like, is that some sort of karma? Like, I don't... Jack, the way I wanted to...

You're all looking at. Bus Jake's balls about that, but I couldn't because in the moment, and again, this is the one thing that I love about Bryson Wynne, where it's like David and Goliath, where Wendell and I, Bryson Wynn, BWP, we're the little guys out here,

right? Like, we're not the Goliaths like CBS, there's Rob, there's so many other people. And we don't want to be that, right? Like, we have curated a unique vibe to come watch Survivor and when we say it's a safe space it's a safe space to have

Jake, who is this also I like to say on TV show I thought I thought Jake's big tall, he kind of like he's a little short shorter than what I thought but

but he is like buff but And to have this big guy, this like, you know, we see what Jake gives to have him in a room of 180 people crying and watching this experience. And to have Nasir wrapping his arms around him, to have Joe Hunter next to him holding his shoulder, to have a window behind him and just embracing him. And, you know, I love a little man on man love. You know, I don't think anything is wrong with that. But in this world that we are currently living in to just see men, loving on men in a time of need, like, it really was such a beautiful thing. And so, like, Jake is taking in this moment.

And afterwards, Jake's like, Wendell, give me a beer, right? And it's like, just this weird community. And again, I just, I say it takes a lot of someone's character to know that you're going out, to know that you're going out like this. Me, I want to be in my mom's basement underneath the radiator watching this. And for Jake to choose to watch this with so many people and still be able to have such a good time, it really spoke volumes to him. And so was I really sad when Jeff was like, we got to pull you from the game. But I also, and tell me if I'm wrong, when you used to watch Survivor with your dad, and I remember, like, Russell Swan, even though maybe Russell Swan didn't, wasn't given an opportunity. I feel like there were a couple of people that were getting pulled, and I felt like they were given the choice, right?

Like, or like, I don't know, it didn't seem like they even, there wasn't a realm of like, put me back in, like, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know. I remember seasons where people being like, I'm good. Like, I'll say, you don't do it. And them letting them stay. Really? I don't. Okay.

I feel like when medical team makes the call that they have to get pulled out, they're getting pulled out. I mean, they might beg to stay in. Now, there's definitely been times I feel like they were on the fence or people, like, having the option and then going home under, like, fairly valid circumstances. Like, I think about, like, B from David v. Goliath. She technically quit, but I think she, like, told.

she, like, tore her ACL or something like that. So it's like, and she was a, I think she was a UFC fighter. So it's kind of like, okay, she can't really risk that. So it kind of is what it is. The last thing, now we don't have to dive into the challenge per se, but when for the first challenge after all the snake stuff to be a water challenge, and Jeff is like, if I was like, if I was in one of that, I'd be like, That was kind of crazy

That was kind of crazy That was And would that be like listen It's like you're on a resort And they're like Somebody died of food poisoning We're not sure Which food caused the food poisoning

But we are assuring you That the food That's out That was out for breakfast and still out now you can eat and you got to eat it so let's go like that was like again we've never seen this before and i think a part of what i love about the new era is that like we are getting into these spaces where again we're at 49 seasons it's like what haven't we seen and yet survivor is still giving us stuff that we've just never seen the behind the scenes of different stuff

and i think even maybe i would dare to say that in older seasons i don't even know if they would show all of this. I don't even know if they would show Jeff saying that. And so again, I love the new edit where it's like they are breaking the fourth wall because it definitely makes us as viewers at home or at Bryce and Wind. White Party's

feeling like we are right there. Yeah. Yeah. But I feel that we covered most of the snake talk. Where else you want to swing over to? So I want to swing over to the Yellow tribe. Because I, very interesting,

we see MC and it brings this nuance that I want to talk to you about where they decide as a tribe, let's go looking for the idol. And I think Jason is the one that kind of spearheads it and it's just like, listen, like, we're in a good space, we're vibing, we haven't had to go to tribal in three days or three episodes. And so like, it's better if we look for it and we use it as a protection. because at this point clearly they have to know

with the Blue Tribe being down after tonight going to be down to two people there has to be a tribe swap on the merge or on the lurking and so what I find so interesting about this right? Because they know that they are going to

go to a tribe swap soon and it is smart to get an idol and if we are so cohesive whoever gets the idol if you get transplant it with someone else, you'll be able to protect them.

But it's a game of Survivor. So we know the T. And it begs this question that I want to ask you, Jack, in the new era, is this not the best way to go looking for an idol? Because we see MC

who says like, I don't know about them, but I'm not group finding the idol. Like, I'm thinking 10 steps ahead. And I'm like, I'm loving this about MC because we haven't really seen much of MC or or her gameplay.

We just seen a couple of episodes ago where Matthew brought her in with Stephen and Kristen. And she kind of was like, I'm not really feeling that. And now we get to see her being like, I'm 10 steps ahead. And she's like, yeah, sure, we can do this group thing. But ultimately, if I find it, it's for myself. And that's what I want to ask you, Jack. Like, I think that that is the smartest thing to do. Create this expedition.

And it's a gamble. You're not a gambling. man, but you play poker, wouldn't you rather your odds of going, like giving everybody to go that we all know we're looking, so no one is giving

suss, but if you find it, you don't have to tell them as opposed to don't want to say Jan Juan's name, but as opposed to Jan Juan who is intently going out and looking and now causing his tribe to be looking at him like

he's playing the game too hard. yeah it's a good it's a good question I feel this is something people don't really discuss that much and I like that you brought it up like what's the best way to actually go look for idols because if you're searching too much you're going to give some suspect vibes I obviously do think early on when you have those little moments to yourself look quickly but you don't want to be looking like too long

because people are going to notice I just bring a book bag I know but probably leave the book bag I can't But I think, of course, you know, maybe a few days in, if you have the opportunity to go as you're going to get wood, you see a tree that stands out, take a look, right? But you don't want to be doing a whole breach and clear of the entire woods to find it. And for me, like, I feel like, you know, it's situational. If you really need one, you might need to look a little bit more, but you don't want to spend too much time searching for the idol. And so, yeah, I feel like if it gets to a point where you feel like nobody's found it, And you feel like a swap or a merge is on the horizon and it could be something that helps all you.

Then I do like this approach. And maybe it gets some people who are looking to share if they actually find it, kind of like when Rizzo finds it. And so now at least you know where the idol is. And then if you want to be a little bit sneaky like MC and you find it, you can be a little bit sly. And like you said, you can still kind of find it privately even though it's under this like whole team effort vibe.

So I absolutely. definitely think this is a great way to go about it. And I think it's a good call by Jason because, like, again, if you see something coming up where this could benefit all of you, then that could be a real asset at like a swap. And then if it's a group, at least you might know who finds it so that if you do go to travel with your tribe, you'll have some way to game plan around it a little bit.

And I bet this probably happens more than we see, but I bet you a lot of times some. You said you best of my already found it and they'll keep a secret, right? Yeah. And there's probably times tribes have done this where someone found it like day one and it's like, I'm not telling anybody. So they're like, oh, let's all go look.

And we're probably not getting shown that because it's like, well, we already know that Bryce has it. So, but yeah, I think this is a fun way to go about it. It's interesting too, like where you think about it where, again, it gives the free for all for everyone to go look and with the guys that will find it for the tribe. And if someone does find it and bring it to your attention, then cool, we all know.

If you and that said person get broken up onto another tribe and you're not vibing with them, you have that information, James Jones, knowledge is power. And so sure, you guys can work together, but also you could utilize it to put a target on their back. And like MC did, she brought in Stephen. And I love how the edit plays with us, right? Where it's like when they brought MC into this alliance, she was a little shamed. shaky. And so we kind of thought maybe she wasn't that close with Stephen. She was more close with Sophie. And clearly we see this episode. She's definitely more locked in with Stephen. And they find it and we'll have to wait and see. So I just thought that was just a little interesting to see like maybe you should make it an expedition to find it. I wouldn't be the one goes down the same way on the Red Tribe too. Like they do that search and Roseau finds it. Yeah, it'll be interesting to see because they can only find it after they lose a challenge,

but none of them are losing challenges. Right. But, I mean, at this point, there will have to be a shakeup. Also, just another, like, Kiki, Christina, I love her, right? We see her on the first episode where she's like, did she not like birds or what was she scared of? She just, like, did, like, the outdoors, it seemed like. Right. She's like, I'm here, but I'm not.

I feel she said she doesn't like birds. Yeah. But as they're looking for the idol, you kind of. to see Christina with a stick, but you can kind of see Christina's like, I ain't really trying to dig. I don't know. I just, I love Christina's just essence on

the show because it's hilarious. It's funny because it's like real people that aren't from the woods, but they want to play Survivor, but also it's like I don't want no spider. And so the next thing I do want to talk about that, like I want

to talk about my one of my, my, my, One of my favorite people, Sophie B, and I want to talk about Alex, and I want to talk about Jeremiah, because I think while the Blue Tribe has been getting obliterated, the edit has been leading us to believe that it is, and maybe two things can be true. Maybe it really was Jake, Alex, Sophie, and Jeremiah. Maybe they really were solid. But at this point, with Jake, Gong, somebody has to go and I find it so interesting that we see Sophie talking to Jeremiah

and what would lead us viewers to be was like well wait a minute Sophie I thought Jake was your number one or I thought you and Alex were closer and so it's so interesting to see like again has Sophie been playing this damn game so good and so hard and so vicious in which we love that it's like at this point in time

she's connected to everybody and what I love about her connections is that in this scenario with Alex and Jeremiah in my mind I would automate like again this is I was out there so my mind isn't the best but I would automatically want to align myself with Alex right like you know but I love the fact that when she's talking to and Jeremiah. And again, I love the way that Sophie mind works. I love the fact that like she's so devious, like she thinks she's like MC.

10 steps ahead. But like, Sophie don't mind if she cuts you. And she's telling Jeremiah like, he got the idol. Like, we could, if we get rid of him, not just like in my, like, in my mind,

I'm like, we'll just flush the item. Like, you know, that and my, that's a win for me. Like, that's how I think. Sophie, like, not only will we flush the idol, there will be another idol put back and we could go look for her. I'm like, geez, Louise, like Sophie is truly advanced and the fact that she could have this conversation with a Jeremiah that she, as we view or see, kind of picked up after she was already in an established relationship very visible with Jake and Alex, I think is remarkable. Yeah. No, she had a great episode. She's had a great

premurge overall, like to survive all the stuff that the Blue Tribe has gone through is very impressive. And yeah, she's always thinking like a few layers deep, which is great. And it's definitely tough when like Alex has an idol, you know, it's a tough situation. I think it's smart to get Jeremiah on board, but ultimately like Alex is most likely going to play as idol. So you need to be ready to cut Jeremiah. And her keeping his vote off of her is also great.

move so it was it was a little bit yeah there was some levels too it was a little bit complicated um but i think it ultimately kind of worked out how it should have worked out if that makes sense in the sense of like Alex should i think Alex should just play his idol because you you can go back and forth and be like i think about all the game theory of it and like oh well if they think i'm to play my idol they're not going to vote for me but and then i don't have to play it but then it's like dude it's a three person tribe you know the game's going to open up after this like you might as well just play and survive to the next day and so knowing that he's probably just going to play it you got to just so if he makes the right move and just votes jeremiah and again

i think in my mind the best position for alex given everybody knows you have the idol right where it's like that becomes a problem when you when everyone knows you have the idol the idol kind of loses his power a little bit right well it's still powerful but in my mind it's best to get rid of it. Like relinquish yourself of that. So like, from that move alone, I'm like, get rid of it. But also clearly the gamer in me, it's like, well, I can hold on to listen. Yeah, but if you always, I would have, what

we've come to realize, I think, especially in it's like a season 46 or whatever, if you always try to hold it on one step farther, you might not use it when you have to. Like, I'd rather just use it. And especially at a pivotal vote like this, where it's three people, you also know if you make it through

this vote, it's going to be a swap or it's going to be a merge or whatever it may be. And typically, when you come from these little, like these decimated tribes, the other tribes kind of go for each other. So you probably won't even need the idol for a while. So better to just survive in advance and make sure you get farther. So I thought it was, I thought it was well done by Alex, too. And like he played the sides, both sides of that pretty well, too, I feel like.

Absolutely. And I want to give credit to Jeremiah, though, right? Because normally in the position that Jeremiah is in, right? Like, your back is against the wall and you have to fight, right? Like, if you don't fight for yourself, then you know it's going to be you. But I love Jeremiah's approach. And I think that Jeremiah, this whole season or these three episodes, has really surprised me in the way that he is able to kind of like, I don't want to say get in where he fits in, but like he is able to see what it is. And I think that so many times in Survivor, when you're out there, you can see what it is and you want to buck against it.

And when you're just by yourself, you're like, how can I buck against it? Right? And it's really a losing game. But I love the way that Jeremiah was able to navigate. And I just, I even love Jeremiah's approach. And even when we were at Tribal and we're talking and Jeff and Sophie. And again, why I love Sophie as well is where Sophie again is working with Jeremiah and working with Alex. But when Jeff is like, so what was your pitch to Alex?

Sophie is she's not coming at Jeremiah but she's laying it down hard like she is making an excellent case like she's fighting for her life and one would expect Jeremiah to do the same but again I think Jeremiah knows his agency right and clearly I would assume that although Sophie is closer to Jeremiah from what we have seen as viewers we haven't really seen much of like Jeremiah and Alex and so I think that Jeremiah knows that and it's like if you know you're not cool with somebody and then the day of your birthday you bring it cupcakes for everybody to the class and now the person you ain't never talked to is like, hey Jack, happy birthday, it's your birthday, all of you for the best. It's like, get out of here.

I don't want no cupcake, but if the approach is, hey, like, if you got an extra cupcake and ain't nobody going to eat it, like I take it, I don't know. There's something so respectable about that. Yeah, Jeremiah, definitely got, got like the short end of the stick here

with this tribe and obviously it didn't work out for him and you vote for Alex and Alex plays the idol but if you base it all on Jeremiah having a read that Alex is not going to vote with him that he might as well hedge his bets with Sophie and try to make this play on

Alex right because it's like even if if Jeremiah votes Sophie here he still goes home because Alex isn't voting with him so I think it's smarter for him to put his faith in Sophie at this point than to put his faith in Alex and hope that Alex doesn't play his idol. Because if he has the read that Alex isn't voting with him,

then, like, there's no point in voting, yeah. But also still pitch, like, but I think that that is the prime example of what I'm saying, that so many times in that position, we will see people not fight. Or, like, you know what I mean? Just be like, it is what it is. And so I like the fact that his approach still made him very eligible.

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manager and also it's like low key put a target on sophy but not like in a different method of like listen i got you i see what you doing i'm gonna go with where you going uh so it was just really interesting. And so it was like very sad the fact that like three episodes in and the Blue Tribe is down four. Now And can I talk about one more thing with this tribe? Because

I want to get into what you're touching on too, but this is kind of the first time I've ever been like, I wish they could vote for themselves because if I'm Alex, because I think they're not allowed to vote for themselves. But if I'm Alex, I think

what I would have wanted to do, is vote for myself, play the idol on myself, and see which of the two actually voted for the other one and didn't vote for me. Right? Because say Alex was voting for Jeremiah, but say that Sophie voted for him and Jeremiah voted for Sophie, then you can see that. Then you'll know who voted for you and who, like, try to make a move,

and then you can see who actually voted with you. So, and then on the revote, you just vote out whoever you want. I wish, I kind of wish there was a world that you could do that. I think it would be really good, good moves. But do you take, like, you're not, you don't gamble, but if you were a gambler, is that a risk you would want to take? Well, you're putting the idol on yourself. I mean, I know, but still, like, well, it's not a risk.

I mean, I guess you're right. Like, the only things that could happen are they both vote for each other, and then you decide who goes home. True. And then if one of them votes for the other and one of them votes for you, you, then the one that voted for you will go home. Or if they both voted for you, then you can just decide. So you're either getting the choice or the person that goes home is the one that

They're revealing themselves. Like, yeah. Okay. I mean, still, not a, not a game I'm going to play. I'm going to stick to the slot. I'm a stick to the slot. I don't know about it. Right.

Say you were in Alex's shoes. No, no, I'm just curious. Say you were in Alex's shoes. Left from right. and Wendell were Sophie and Jeremiah and say say you were going to vote me out and but I actually voted for Wendell and then Wendell voted for you and you play your idol

and then I go home wouldn't you be like karma Zabish although I guess in that it's oh wait wait wait I guess in that instance the vote would still be tied and then you could change your vote I guess. But then you voted for me.

And so then maybe the trust is still a little bit broken. It's still like. Because then you're like, well, do I just vote out the one that I voted for and keep the one that voted for me? Or do I be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, my bad. I'm going to vote for the one that voted for me. But then what if it happens and you stuck with the person that didn't vote for you and they're still in the tribe?

And then it's a tribe swap and y'all still stuck together. And now like, they're stuck with someone you voted for or something that voted for you? Or how would you know? Like, what if they lied and said like... Well, they couldn't because if you voted for me and then there was a Wendell vote, you know that I was the only vote for Wendell, yeah. Kind of a lot of layers to a three-person.

No, it is a lot. It's a lot. But ultimately, I feel like in this new era, Alex got it right, right? Where it's like, just don't like, there's no point. to play, play the idol. And I also feel like Sophie got it right, where it's like, in my mind, I want to believe that she was closer to Jeremiah, right?

Because we've heard her multiple times say, like, he doesn't like the bromance of Jake and Alex. And so, like, Sophie voted out her ally to save herself. And that's something that, like, I didn't have the wearer fall in my own situation. So it's like, there's so much respect that I have. for a Sophie in that moment because it's like I say it all the time it's self-preservation so it's like she understands the gang and we have seen her teasing previously like I hope that this propels

her but it does worry me a little bit like we're per doing the tony move and like peeking behind like like Sophie is locked in and my only and let's just be clear I'm rooting for Sophie like Sophie B like Sophie B the B and Sophie B is Bryce Sophie Brites Sophie Brites my only concern now, and tell me if this is a valid point though, right? Because the blue tribe has been through the ringer, right? Like the blue tribe has, they've been fighting all their life. And what my, the only thing that I'm worried about is that the tribe swaps happen. And now we're on tribes that like have been living privilege. They've been going to private school. They have nannies. They have tutors, right? And like, now it's,

you're somebody that like hasn't had anything and like you've been fighting your whole life and now I'm worried that if she when she gets to another tribe her guard might be up and I think that that I don't want the other tribes to see that as like oh no she got to go so that's my only like worry for Sophie but I feel like we've seen enough of her that I feel like she'll be able to navigate but that is what I'm just concerned about when you just been fighting all your life and she might come in a little too hard or not her or Alex might be like all right we're probably going to go to travel again I got to make my move right he's like we've just been chilling like we're good um but I feel like the natural way it

works out is that red and yellow will probably target each other and that gives blue an opportunity swing boats right um two questions okay one the first one's pretty quick do you think if Alex did not have an idol that Sophie and Jeremiah would have voted him out. See, this is the thing. I don't know, Jack, because the edit is like I thought Sophie and Alex were locked in. But again, Sophie was keeping her options open. And to piggyback on your question, the more interesting point that I bring is that I don't know how strategic I thought Jake was, right?

Like, clearly he's a meat shield. and clearly he's showing his love to Alex and so like I wouldn't deem that as like something I would want to brag about right but like it really shows his however he was playing the game his presence was felt right like his presence was huge

with these three people left and so again it just in my mind shows me that in the game of Survivor anything can happen and you take one piece out and all of these pieces kind of move around but I don't know because the edit is like fooling me because I would have thought that Sophie was with all of them but clearly in this episode it seemed like

her and Jeremiah had this connection. So I talked about it. I think if Alex didn't have an idol, I think he goes on. I think Sophie and Jeremiah were closer than they were with Alex. But I'm not positive. Right. Because the edit.

Yeah. And then although granted, I mean like last episode we did see Sophie like planting some seeds about maybe going for Alex. my other question and I feel like this kind of echoes a sentiment I've seen a little bit in the community every season there's like a disaster tribe

and in my opinion it's not always it's not very fun to watch it's also I think just purely editing wise if a tribe keeps going to tribal early on you have to put a lot of the edit on them when obviously most of their people are going to go home really quick. So then you get to the merge or the

swap and now it's like, okay, we know a lot about like four people, right? And so. But okay, this is what I'm going to disagree, right? I'm with you. That's annoying. But I also feel like as a viewer, it's exciting because we don't know much

about the, it's exciting in the realm of I don't know what's going to happen. Right? Like, I don't know. Like, it makes it a little more exciting to watch. Sure. I like the optimism of that. But I do think overall, we'd like, the people that go farther, we want to kind of know a little bit more about them.

And again, it's just been back in the day, like in Kagayan, when there was a disaster tribe, that was like a fun surprise, right? But now it feels like it's like almost every season. There's a tribe that loses a bunch. Well, I mean, that's what happens when you have three tribes. I mean, can we all agree? Well, it shouldn't.

I feel like it should actually happen less because there's more, you have two chances to win, right? so it's like what is what is it that's causing this to happen is it worth solving like a i mean my initial thoughts are that i think it's design well yeah exactly my initial thoughts are like having no no flint in like no food it's it sets up like whoever loses the first challenge is automatic and a disadvantage they're not going to have any water they're not going to be food that makes it harder to win more um i also think ending every challenge pretty much with like a puzzle don't love it anymore

because it's like if you just don't have like the thing about puzzles is when someone's just like better at puzzles they're going to win the puzzle like every time right and so we do know like Jason

and Alex yeah it's like Jason is a stud on the puzzles and honestly they give Jason a lot of credit I feel like Steven's good at the puzzles too he's like a rocket

sniders so those guys as long as they get to the puzzle in any sort of reasonable like proximity to the other chives they're going to win the challenge and then like so it's like just blue doesn't even do that bad in like the obstacle part but they just are never going to win a puzzle because the other people they're against are just like better at puzzles than they are which is obviously an important skill but it shouldn't be like the only skill and it feels like that's all that matters right now like I would love some different challenges like even back in the day where it's it's like not an obstacle and there's not a puzzle it's just like every tribe like every tribe is running around a track and you have to like tag the other tribe like that was a a fun challenge. I like that, but

I do feel like there was a point when there wasn't so many puzzles, and they were all physical. And there was a point when like the physically weaker tribes were the ones that were getting obliterated. And so like I do feel like the puzzle is

the equalizer. But hear me out. The balance, I think, is... But hear me out. Because we do have 90 minutes. And I do feel like in the new era back in my... Back in my day, and I was middle of the road. But back in my day, we had 60-minute episodes, Jaggery.

And in the 60-minute episodes, pre-merge, we would get reward challenges. We would get immunity challenges. And I think there were times. where we would see a tribe continuously lose the immunity, but in between they might win a reward. And so they're not as decimated. And I feel like in the new era, we don't see that as much because they just wait for the sanctuary

to just start feeding them applebees at the sanctuary where all good things happen. And I think that that is a design that we should talk about. Like, we got 90 minutes. And just like, I feel like give them rice. Like there's not, it's just, yeah, why? It's not more fun to just watch them actually starve, you know what I mean? Like, um, yeah, it's just, it's just so imbalanced.

And I think there's that point about the tribes getting decimated so frequently. That makes it kind of boring. And I also, I'm starting to agree with the, just the general, I used to love three tribes when it was like a fun twist. Well, we could have a mix them now. Exactly, a mix. Like, now it feels like people have kind of solved the three tribes. the formula is just like you get your four and you ride it out and one tribe is just going to

like lose every challenge and then you're good whereas with two tribes there's like more permutations because you might have your alliance of three but now it's like our alliance of three has to grab another alliance of three and then there's like another alliance of four going on there's like different alliances in the group I think that makes it more interesting and at least on season 50 it's three tribes of eight so you can't just have a four you need like a five it's 24 people on the cat. How you know it's not an island where two people just at the island?

There's a tribe of two, you think? It could be. It could be a ghost island. It could be something. It's 50. I don't know. I think it's three tribes of eight. Maybe things will switch up.

But like, I just, you know, a tribe of eight more interesting than a tribe of six at this point. Okay. I'll give you that. I feel like, and I used to love the three tribes, But now it's just like, it is, it's always like, we got to get our forward. I've never been a fan of the three tribes if you're asking me to be, be honest. I've never been a fan.

Yeah, kind of see, to what, like, with you, you just end up in, like, because there's so, there's so few people. It's like, oh, with three people just happen to really get along, they're kind of going to run the tribe. Whereas there's a little bit more, I think, gameplay required in a bigger tribe to manage all these people. So, yeah, I mean, I'm definitely in favor and, like, get, get through some tribes like two tribes i don't want to swap where you may be switching to three and now there's different dynamics at play or whatever but yeah this this formula's getting old right haven't we seen jack haven't we seen we start off at two and maybe like three episodes in then we swap to three tribes yeah and we're seeing like game changers like we see that

we used to see that a lot we used to see that a lot and i now i think that there was an era there around then where like I remember ghost island they only had two eliminations and then they swapped like give them a little more time than that but I still you know do three or four vote outs and then do a swap and then I think they they had the formula right for quite a while and now well did they I mean but that's the thing there's no more innovation I mean I'm with you but the real the real question of the hour Jackery is

with two people going home you know the third so is very near and dear to my heart. And I don't know if maybe my vernacular needs to change where like, you know, it's the third boot that is very special to my heart. Who is it? Because with our draft, I was like, who counts? I think Jake is the third out.

But then if you think about boot, I think boot implies like a vote. So it's like, but you're still out though I don't know like that's hard like so it's like or do I just get double the fun

do I just get Jake and Jeremiah I don't know Posse help us decide I think you kind of get both same episode too both out on the third episode it's like same day

it seems like right because I almost there's a round where it's like sure I could leave Jake out of it and it Jeremiah joins my club but then it's like it's almost as if like

Jake is like he's like anonymous but not anonymous but like he's like above it but I also feel like getting hurt getting medevict getting like this is a part of

survivor right it's it's the name of the game I don't know so it's not quite a vote out it's like yeah I don't I don't that's what I'm saying Posse should chime in

please should I change my vernacular vernacular or is it's Jeremiah? It's not a vernacular. I think your vernacular is fine. It's more of like who is who is it. Well, because I say third boot, but maybe I should say third out.

Well, no, third boo is fine. But in a case like this, it's a little. Because we've had this before. Yeah. So I don't know. Posse way in because I'm confused because last night I said something to Jake. And my true, okay, this is how I knew I liked Jake. I said something to Jake.

I said, Jake, listen. I know. going out third it's hard is a tough to swallow but I said it's greener pastures on the other side

Jake said well I didn't get voted out third sir sir is you in the game or is you not okay is you in or is you not yeah

okay because there ain't no going to bite me before I bite it. But anyway, but no. It was an interesting time's interesting episode. Again, shout out to Jake. Very heart-fooling. Jeremiah going out, again,

just the luck of the draw in this situation. Because, okay, my last question, Jack, I'm going to let you go. So if Jake is still in the game, if the snake don't bite Jake, if I get to the snake before Jake can get to the snake and Jake is still in the game, and they

still lose? Is it still Jeremiah? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Yeah. Which? Yeah. I think Jake holds Sophie and Alex together,

and we saw that Sophie was maybe wanting to make a move on Alex, but he also has his idol. So it's like, I don't think Sophie, I don't think it would have been smart for Sophie to do that. So, yeah, I think it's, I think Jeremiah still goes. And I do think with this tribe

Is it perfect How much luck is involved in the game too Because there's you know If you if you don't include these puzzles Or the fact that like Jason And who's been like crushing the puzzles for Red Who's been like Nate? It's not Rizzo

Uh Jawan Like Nate and Jawan Nate and Jawan Nate and Jowan And also I I feel like they've switched a little bit but um we don't know because i'll say you know there's yeah say episode one like jason doesn't crush

the puzzle there's probably someone on yellow that's the first boot and like now they're probably going to pick into the merge so it really does happen like that and some of those things aren't even in control because if you're not the one doing the puzzle it's like okay well do i have uh Alex doing my puzzle or do i have jason doing my puzzle and that's not i don't want If I got a crossword or a Suduku, I am not calling Jeremiah or Alex. Okay? If I need a legislation passed, I'm going to call Alex. And the thing is, you can't even blame them that much because it seems like on that whole trap, nobody else was better.

You know what I mean? I can never knock him too much. Because unless they're not knocking them. No, no, exactly. But I'm just saying, I'm not going to call them if I'm stuck on seduce. I feel like a lot of times people get flak, even like from their tribe mates, right? like unless you're like being like unless you're kind of like Rome and you're like I'm doing it

and then you're not very good but if everyone kind of looks around and they're like well I can't do it I can't do it and then you're like maybe I can do it and then you're not good it's like well no one else wanted to step up so that's the best we got you can't really blame them Nicole was good at puzzles

was she we just love that way there is something I do want to talk about I want to talk about sage because I felt sage this episode because I felt like you're damned if you do

and you damn if you don't and sage heard this episode really touched me and I got to hang out and meet Sage when we were in Boston and I think the story

that she tells of her personality I think is absolutely true and anybody knows me I'm a mama bear and at a Bryson Win event sometimes I'm soaked and sweat because I can't sit still. I'm running around and I want to make sure that everybody's good. If there's something that I can do or I want to do that because it's like you're here

and I want to provide an experience. And so at our Bryce and one event, like first of all, Sage is beautiful. She was tall. Like she had a little hummus board. She was sharing her hummus with me. And so like, but Sage was quiet, reserved. And it was so interesting to see her talk about this. throughout the episode where she's like every year

and from elementary to high school like her best friends goes to her and so now she's built up this wall and she's reserved and so it's like okay we get it and then it's like clearly she understands that like okay this is a trauma from my past and I can't let it creeper to survivor

so I got to like ease my way in and like at first I was like well why aren't you going to Jawan it seems like you and Joanne are cool, but I love the fact that Sage was like, Shannon seems to be in the no. She talks to Rizzo and Rizzo Rizzo gives the,

and I love Rizzo. But Rizzo is like every survivor player when someone asks them, how should I make my survivor video? And Rizzo gave Sage the answer of Be yourself. Make it fun, right? And again, I'm not mad because Rizzo,

is kind of like making his line in the sand. In my mind, I feel like Rizzo doesn't necessarily want to help a sage because if they have to go, he wants to keep his options open. Yeah. And so Sage can clearly pick up on that. And Sage is like, okay, well, I kind of get a little vibe

from my soul, Sister Shannon. And she broaches a conversation with Shannon. And the thing that like made me mad at Shannon a little bit, but I'm not mad at Shannon a little bit, but like, I feel like What Sage said about Savannah wasn't even crazy. Like, I feel like Sage was like,

hey, I see Jack got a green shirt on today. Like, I don't think she said anything crazy. Who, is that a tent? What is happening? My roommate's grabbing something out of my room. Have I met that roommate? No, I don't think.

That's the room in the back. Yeah, well, most of the rooms are the other, but yeah, yeah, yeah. Is he the one with the skis? No, well, those two moved. Oh, yeah. You see how Jack don't call me and I don't even know who in Jack house anyway, but. No, I know what she mean. Yeah, I know what she means.

No, we want to know about the roommate. But anyway, but like I feel like Sage didn't even say nothing. Like she just was trying to broach the conversation to see like, You want to talk with me. And then Savannah finds out. And, I mean, I love Savannah because she plays. So I. Savannah about business.

I love that she's playing so, like, assertively. But at the same time, she gets mad at Sage. It's like, well, Sage knows she's on the bottom. Like, what's she supposed to do? She's got to do something. You know, if you're in the majority of alliance and you're targeting her, she's not just supposed to sit around. She's got to go put some feelers out.

But also, it's like, I'm on Shannon a little bit, right? Where it's like you do want to continue to stoke the fire, though, right? Like, you know, like, you know, I understand what Shannon is doing. It's like, you want to kill any avenue that Sage and Savannah might be able to link up. So it's like, you got a dead death. So I, like, I'm not mad at what Shannon is doing because, again, this is why I love Survivor, right? I think it's like everyone is playing their own game and trying to protect her own self.

but for me that's a lover and a mama bear damn sage was just Sage just said she'll invite Sage to come hang out it's like why you excluding her and it's interesting for Shannon too because Shannon's all like good vibes let's appreciate the fish that we're about to eat but then she's like oh by the way by the way

Savannah like Sage was talking about you oh by the way Savannah Jawan took your bag I don't know if you saw that and I kind of appreciate because she, that's, I'm not mad, I'm not mad. I don't appreciate that little, like, she's all, like, groovy and zen, but she'll, like, wait, wait.

Yeah, exactly. But this is why, again, this is why I love the Red Tribe, right? Because I feel like they're doing a good job of the edit, right? Because I feel like there are multiple size of Shannon. And I feel like from day one, Savannah clocked it.

Savannah was like, I see, say, I mean, I see Shannon Lee in the prayer in the Sunday school, but I also saw Shannon shaking some ass last night at old, like, you know what I mean? Like, so it's interesting. And so I just, I find it so interesting because it's like, I am mad at Shannon because like, like, Sage just shared this with us and now my heart is open. But at the same time, it's like, I'm not mad at Shannon because it's like, you better sprinkle them seeds so that if anything happens, it's your word against their word.

And also it's like, well, damn, Savannah, why you got to be so cutthroat? But it's like, damn, Savannah, that's how I should have played. Like, I love it. I love it. It's like the Red Tribe is like, it's interesting to me because I feel like the Yellow Tribe. If the Yellow Tribe were to have to go to tribal council, I feel like it's going to be a lot. Like they ain't going to know what to do. I feel like the Red Tribe, they cool, but they're not.

not that cool. It's just like, it's just interesting. And I absolutely loved it. But that was just my take. Jackery, I appreciate you. I'm excited. Also, when we were in Boston, the Wombo gave me a little envelope to give you.

I had packed it in my bag for San Diego. So I will ensure that we, I will give it to you. I appreciate it. Yeah. So this has been your Survivor News for Survivor Season 49, Episode 3. We'll be back next week. The Bryce and Wins 449 is continuing.

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