RHAP: We Know Survivor - Purple Pants Podcast | Immunity for Some, Chaos for All

Episode Date: November 1, 2024

The baby boys are back with another thrilling Survivor 47 recap! Hosts @BriceIzyah, @WendellHolland, and @JackAtkins21 dive into Episode 7, where players face a split-tribe twist. The stakes are high as two groups battle in immunity challenges that determine who’s safe from the vote. Tension builds as Rachel gains an advantage just before Tribal, shaking up the expected vote. With alliances shifting and new dynamics forming, tune in to catch all the strategy, surprises, and drama this episode brings! 

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Whew! I personally thought that episode was a lot. I said to myself when I was watching the episode, wait a minute, we're going to tribal council and there's still 30 minutes left? Baby, it's going to be good.

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Survivor News Survivor News Survivor News Survivor News Survivor News Survivor News Survivor News Survivor News Survivor News Survivor News Survivor News Survivor News Survivor News Survivor News Survivor News Survivor News Survivor News Survivor News Survivor News Survivor News Survivor News Survivor News Survivor News Survivor News Survivor News Survivor News Survivor News, Survivor News, Survivor News, Survivor News, dot, dot, dot. What's going on and welcome to the Purple Pants podcast, Survivor News, Halloween edition of season 47. I'm excited to be here, okay? My name is Tsunami, okay? And I am 45 years old. I'm so happy to be here. I believe I am so excited to have the contestant from Survivor 47 Not the first Merge boot, but a boot before the Merge, before the Merge Let's welcome Rome to the podcast, what's poppin' Rome? How we doing? It's good to be here, gentlemen Lady and gentlemen, it's good to be here Yes, I didn't make it to the Merge but I still was able to sit in Probe's seat.

So that's a win for me. Thank you very much. And somebody that has their hands clean all season and they might like to wet the whistle. Let's welcome to the podcast, the fan favorite, Teenie. What's going on? Yo, it's me. What up? It's Teenie. Uh, Yo, it's me. What up? It's Tini.

Yeah, just chilling, vibing. Been hitting the wine a little bit. Might need a buddy, but thanks so much for having me, guys. Tini, did you say you need a buddy? I might need a buddy. Well, you know, Wendell and I or Rome and Sue, you know we in the big easy, baby. So, you know, you know, Wendell and I or Rome and Sue, you know, we in the big easy, baby. So, you know, we couldn't go. Okay, we went.

Let's go. Let's get it. Woo. It's a lock on this episode. And if you're listening, yes, the baby boys came in Halloween. So head over to the Bryce Isaiah YouTube page and see and get your life. But listen, let's get to some things because we have an episode to talk about.

But Jackery, New Orleans, this Wednesday, it was something special. Like we said, we had a very intimate setting. We knew that we were doing something special. We had Phil from the Survivor Specialist coming, and we were trying something out new. We had a podcast. We did a live podcast in Bay Bay, Jack. When I tell you, it felt really good.

We were at Urban South. They had what looked like a perfect podcast set up already for us. We had our friends come up from... Our friends Erica and Derek come up from... Mississippi. Mississippi to shoot us. And yeah, it just came together nicely. Yeah, we had alligator.

Stay tuned. to them. It just came together nicely. What's that? Well, we got to get some things together, but that should be dropping soon. Who do we have? We had, obviously, Alagabla came as a Alagabla. We had Darnell from Survivor Coron. We had Owen from

Season 43, and we had some other special guests that were in the building, so if you were there, you know, but it was so much fun. Like the episode was a great episode. And Jet, that concludes the first leg of the BWP Tour 47, which is crazy to say. The first leg is over. We go on a little two week break, but listen, the baby boys are coming back strong. We will be in Chicago November 20th. We will be in Philadelphia on Thanksgiving Eve, November 22nd. We'll be in Boston December 4th. We'll be in Washington, D.C. December 11th. And the grand finale in Brooklyn on December 18th.

So listen, get your tickets for the BWP Tour 47 Part 2. Two-peat leg two of the BWP Tour is super amazing. And if leg two is going to be anything like leg one or what it has been in the past, I don't think you want to miss these stops because, I mean, listen, I might be 43 by the time we get to Boston. It's been a great first half, and the second half is going to be even better.

We purposely loaded certain dates towards the end, and it's going to be up. Now, my only question, Bryce, we need to backtrack a little. What season of Survivor is Darnell from? Quran. Quran. of Survivors Darnell from? Koran. Koran. The holy word. What is it, Bryce?

Well, he said Koran, which is like half of a Mexican beer. Koran. He's from Survivors. He's in 32. Koran. That's from Survivor Season 32. Koran. That's where Michelle Fitzgerald won. Koran. Koran.

All right, he's from the Koran. Bless him. As-salamu alaykum. Okay. Okay. Jack, how do you say the season? Koran. You're close There's just like a G on it

Like co-wronged So I was wrong I was co-wronged I wasn't going to say anything I'm Petey Chill Petey, you're chillin' But you know, Roamie, Roam over here. Roam's actually Bendico, Roam.

So a little bit different episode than we usually get. I mean, we had this, I think we saw in season 44 briefly, we have this split tribe. We also have this St. Q without power situation. Before we get into it, what'd you guys think of this episode overall? I thought it was good.

I thought it was great. I think the first five minutes of it, the Andy show, where Andy was laying his fist down and saying, Andy was popping, where Andy was laying his fist down and saying, Andy was popping off, Andy was putting his pieces to the puzzle together. I was feeling that part

of it. Then the end was so crazy and then I got on Reddit and now I got all these questions. What was going down on Reddit? That's got you thinking. So I think I was when I was out with breakfast with window and I was like happened to scroll on Reddit and there was a post that read something about they wish survivor would leave out.

No stop manipulating the episodes and just let the players play. And I said, what? Oh yeah. I saw that. What? I said, players,

they're going to play and haters. They're going to hate. Ooh, Oh yeah, I saw that. What? I said players, they gonna play. And haters, they gonna hate. Ooh, ballers, they gonna ball. Shot callers, they gonna call. That ain't got nothing to do with me and you. It's the way it is. It's the way it is. So I'll call friends.

Don't want to see me with you, teeny, behind your back. Calling Tiana and all of them. They ain't got nothing to do with me and you. It's the way it is. It's the way

it is. Jack, title or artist? I have an educated guess. I'm going to guess called Me and You. I'm going to guess no. I'm going to artist.

It's probably wrong, but at least it's something I've learned from you guys. I'm going to say Aaliyah. Oh, wow. No. I thought he was going to guess Destiny's Child, but at least it's something I've learned from you guys. I'm going to say Aaliyah. Oh, wow. No. I thought he was going to guess Destiny's Child, so at least that's an okay guess, right? Okay. That's her vibe, though, right? Kinda. This group is

after them. I'll give you another little hint. I'm getting a little tired of you. Looking at the page of things in different numbers and numbers. Call you on the cell, you're hanging with the fellas. Fellas hanging with my girls. You always get jealous.

It's not just space girls, is it? Well, I will. No more. No more. Baby, I'm a do right. You can't. Okay. It's three of. Okay. It's three of...

Okay. Say it again. It's three of them. They're not tall, and they happen to be women. Oh, I feel you've given me this one before. It's like... Was this the one when you were like, your brother or whatever?

Sisters? No. That was a different group, but you gave it. Yes. It's similar. They do. They're not tall. They're not tall and they are ladies.

The short girls. You've never heard of 3LW Jack 3LW I don't know if I feel better or worse now because I've never heard 3LW 3L 3 Little Women

yes have you heard of have you heard of the Cheetah Girls yeah of course okay well Adrian Bailon and the two of them have you heard of the cheetah girls? Yeah, of course. Okay, well, Adrienne Bailon and the two of them. I don't know the history of it. Well, no, but the cheetah girls was Raven-Symoné, Adrienne Bailon,

and I forget the other girl's name, Akili. They were part of, you know, then have you seen them show power? No. Is Raven-Symoné the one from Not So Raven though so yes but Raven-Symoné isn't in 3LW but two members of

the Cheetah Girls was in 3LW it was Notori Keely and Adrian but anyway okay little history lesson for you I'll never forget that we'll see.

So where were we? So with the Reddit. Yeah, they said no more production manipulation. Just let the players play. And I'm like, hmm? I wouldn't say all that. That's how I felt. But I mean, people in the comments were going off

Bryce are you in the comments already? no I'm not no I'm not Bryce was going off let him play is this your post? it wasn't my post they've been doing this since Kageyan episode 2

let the players play this since Kageyan episode two. Let the players play. I stand Kageyan. Darnell got screwed in Quran. Quran. I'm dead. No, it's like, is it the best twist

of the season? No, but is it? I think, you know, that advantage was premeditated. You know, they probably said, let's split them up. There's going to be an advantage at the reward. And it just so happened that Rachel ended up being in, like, I guess, the worst situation or you could say the perfect situation where she's the recipient.

And I guess that's where people can look at it like, what are the odds that this is what the idol happens to say where she's the recipient. And I guess that's where people can look at it like, what are the odds that this is what the idol happens to say when Rachel is with everybody and she's by herself? I don't believe that, but I'm just saying, like, I can see... Oh, is that what you wrote on the Reddit comment? Someone said that verbatim. Now, how did they pick the groups did they was the intern lacking this episode clearly they fired the intern and you clear like they're only digging in the bags now they're not holding the tray out because that intern got fired so no but i'm not saying

that that was the manipulation but because it was so so random and Rachel did get screwed by being on a tribe with myself, Kyle, Caroline and Tiana, like it really puts her in a bad position. And one someone else in the comments was saying, like after an episode where Rome went home and editing, it was hard to hide the edit of Rome going home. Then with this, with a Rachel, that's just, again, I'm just, don't shoot the messenger. I'm just reporting what the fans were saying already. Yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't say this was like blatant production interference. It just so happened to be a situation that, you know,

kind of became pretty predictable like it made sense for them to give rachel this advantage i also felt like you know we see them at the reward they're all taking naps it's like i'm guessing production kind of held them at that reward until someone found the advantage which for know, they wanted that bench to be found. I doubt that they like pointed anyone in that direction, but you, you lay around. Why would they want the advantage to be found so bad? Well, it's like, that's kind of, I feel like what they had intended for the structure of this split.

Now I'm not saying that's good or bad, but it's sort of like, I'm sure they were like, okay, we're going to do this two-tribe split, and then the twist is going to be that someone's going to get this advantage, and that's going to spice it up. I feel like they would have done that either way. You know, however the breakdown had happened, that's what they would have wanted to do.

Yeah, I think when they, yeah, they wanted it to be found. When they make they want, they wanted it to be found. When they make these advantages, they want them to be found. So, Hey, all right. We're going to hide it right here. How, you know, my man is Andy. How do y'all think Andy did? Andy was on a roll and I think that he was on a roll getting his alliance together.

He was on a roll checking soul and when it came to that reward and Andy was there got no one to hold him and no one to fold him Andy. What did they say? Did you find anything?

Who said this? I mean yeah it's always so stigmatized but honestly at that point i'm like like who really like oh yeah what like i don't know it's not that big a deal like just why not look around i don't know now another question is because he was seen i don't remember who found him looking but now it's like alright who sent this over to Rachel maybe people would be like yo it might have been Andy

and Andy would be like no I promise y'all saw me looking that's a great point and Saul did a great job of you know kind of the what? what the hell? yeah of you know kind of the what yeah um i don't know like i don't really know where to begin with this episode i honestly thought this episode was probably the worst of the season i i didn't i

didn't by any means think it was bad but i thought it was probably the worst episode of the season you know it just was a little i now i'll take a 90 minute the worst episode of the season. You know, it just was a little, now I'll take a 90 minute episode every day of the week, but there was times this, this one was moving. You know, when they go back to the reward challenge for the fourth time to show them that happened, it's like, all right, we're a little bit starved for content here. The thing is,

I thought the opposite though Jack like I thought this was a thrilling episode and when I was sitting next to there was someone that came to the Halloween party dressed as Bryce shout out to my girl Leah when I was sitting next to Leah I looked at the watch I said

we've got 30 minutes left and we're going to tribal I'm like buckle up we're in for a ride. I enjoyed it. I thought this episode was very interesting for a multitude of reasons. But pop off, Jack. I enjoyed it. Yeah, that's the thing.

You had texted me right when we were starting. You were like, it's a crazy episode. Which in the future, I generally prefer no comments on the episode. Don't text me, Jack. Jack, don't text me when you know the episode is playing. And that's not a spoiler.

No, no. I'll say it's a big deal, but it's like a minor spoiler because you kind of expect something crazy to happen, which actually, I didn't really think anything that crazy happened. It's a reverse spoiler. It's kind of expect something crazy to happen which actually i didn't really think anything that crazy happened so it's a reverse spoiler it was kind of a reverse spoiler but you know it's like sometimes you'll hear like yo this episode was nuts and then you're watching the whole time like seeing this crazy plan you're like well now i know it's probably

gonna happen but you know that's that's a my that's that's not that's a separate thing. Jack, I will never text you on a Wednesday again. Well, keep it logistical. What time are you recording the podcast? But I knew you were in NOLA too. No, no. I'm not mad at it. It was totally fine. That's just a thing moving forward.

He was really mad. Wendell, did Jack just check me? He just kind of like bossed up on you, Bryce. No, it wasn't that. Don't do it again, Bryce, okay? Is Jack, Andy, and I'm Saul? What is happening? No, I'm TV.

I'm chill. You got the wrong costume on. No, no, I really, that wasn't meant to be, it wasn't a big deal. But don't do it again. That's right. But, I don't know, like, it just became,

it's okay, look, I think that the blue tribe, Tuku, which it ended up just being, it basically was a Tuku pre-merge tribal council that everyone got to watch. I think Tuku is

far and away the most boring tribe on this season. And I don't know if that's a hot take. I think some other people have shared that take and maybe been a little bit harsher about it. So the people that I'm rooting for... You talking about my tribe, Tuku?

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Travel moves us. So, alright, well, okay, well, listen, we're getting old, baby. No, no, no, no, no know no no no no no no no no so who is the boringness on that tribe i think as uh nobody specifically but there's nobody that's a standout you gotta put a name on that bullet you gotta in a way i'll kind of say collectively. Gabe is fun to watch. Well, I like Gabe.

Gabe is also sort of intentionally, my own thoughts on Gabe aside, he's kind of playing up the villain thing. To me, there's nobody on Tuco that I'm really invested in rooting for. I'm not saying anyone's playing necessarily bad, but all the people I'm rooting for um and that's not I'm not saying anyone's playing like necessarily bad but all the people I'm rooting for are on that other group like Genevieve, Teenie, Saul, Sam uh that's kind of like my and Baby Andy those are the people that are my

probably my top five I mean I like a good I like Kyle but Kyle's fun and kind of like a Southern charm, like some good one-liners, but he's not carrying the narrative of the episode. Can I tell you a player that got put on my radar from TuKu this episode? And I know we're all over the place. Caroline? Caroline. I thought the way when Tiana came to her and that conversation that she had, I thought she handled that extremely well. Now, me as a viewer, knowing what I know from these previous episodes, Caroline is not breaking from me, her mother, Sue.

However, the way that she was talking to Caroline or when Caroline was talking to Tiana and, you know, Tiana knew that Caroline wasn't really with her, but the way Caroline was like, no, no, no, no, no. Like, this isn't a democracy. I mean, this isn't a, no, this is a democracy. This is not a dictatorship. Like, I speak, you speak.

Tell me what you thinking. The way that Caroline maneuvered that, I was like, wow. And we, and mind you,'s it's almost like jeff last week like guess what guys one person's safe and everyone else isn't it really was like wow you speak i speak we don't have to agree but like we can still work together that seems like such a nuance on survivor but it's like it was so refreshing to see and i don't think we haven't seen that type of like communication in a long time i mean i definitely think caroline is the strongest player on that tribe i'm not we just haven't we haven't learned a ton about her yet

and she doesn't have enough air time for me necessarily to be invested in her as like a rooting interest but i definitely think she's a good player i think she communicates very well you know when she realized that sue found the idol i thought she handled that very well just giving her she's a great ally and she's really smart and i saw a comment i think i was also looking at red it's like you can tell caroline's in corporate america because she's very direct but she also has has a really good way of gearing her arguments to make sense to whoever she's talking to. And I think the interesting conversation to have here is this idea that if you're on Tuku, kind of the debate they had is like, is voting out Rachel ultimately a bad move? And I think generally, yes, that it is. But Caroline actually argued it's a bad move

for Gabe and Kyle but it's actually you know for her and Tiana maybe not a bad move and so I kind of want to throw that to you guys of like for this two coup group who does it does it make sense for all of them to vote out Rachel does it make sense for like none of them to vote out like

if you're in that two coup group what do you think about what you should do? I think that's really astute, Jack, because truth, like, Kyle's winning these immunities. Next time he doesn't win, that man's going home. And there are these natural targets

that can be placed before them, and then once Tuku is down to whatever, eyes are elsewhere. And that's when things start to happen. So I think she was right with that assessment. Agreed. And when we merge, if we're down in the numbers, why are they not going to pick us off right away? So I do understand that.

However, I also feel like that's just status quo, right? Like it's just like it really is just that is the easy move. And I feel like in this new era, when we get these easy vote outs, it's never really an easy vote out. towards and I loved my girl Tiana, but it really just has me thinking, or maybe we're not giving an, and mind you, I'm very sad and I love my girl Tiana, but I also feel like maybe we're not giving Tiana, we're not giving Caroline and Sue enough credit because again, Tiana going to Caroline with that, we didn't see it in the edit, but I am a thousand percent sure Caroline took that information back to me and I am a thousand percent sure I took it to Gabe. I just know that that was

the line of events. And for me, it is surprising that or what it appears is that, does Tiana not know the chain of command? Are they making her feel more comfortable in the alliance than she really is yeah

I think you're definitely right Caroline and Sue have done a pretty good job of keeping their options open and Caroline positions herself really well as a swing vote and unfortunately for Tiana like and I think they've I think Sue and Carolina positions up really well so I don't think I wouldn't expect T's to know that they're not going to flip on Gabe.

But that's like a great job by them because Tiana can only go to them and they have all the control. And it's, it's just not going to shake out for Tiana here. Can I ask a question real quick? A little bit off topic, but you saying your comment that you wrote on Reddit about Caroline being a corporate America, it has me thinking, because you know, I might be in the big easy, but I still had to work this morning.

And you ever have passive aggressive coworkers? Yeah. So can we just go around the way, go around the circle, and what are some, how do you communicate F you, F you corporate America

way? For me, one of my favorite tactics at work is when somebody sends me something that is like, you already know the answer. And why are you CCing my manager, my supervisor and everybody else? Well, you could have just emailed me, right? Sorry, because I just I'm dealing with this currently. My favorite, favorite, favorite for me is.

Good afternoon, Jack. Per my last email. The way I get off when I can start an email like that. Because really what I'm saying is read what I sent to you

last before you ask me any questions. And then they'll be like is read what I sent to you last before you ask me any questions. And then they'll be like, I read it in full and I'm asking you a new question, Bryce. Can you fully read my email? Hey, Wendell. Thanks for your response.

My supervisor and I met and realized this is not in my job description. Well, no, but what's the passive-aggressive? What's the way you could say, ugh, in an email, Jack? Usually, I feel like it's like, hopefully, we can figure this out promptly

and I won't have to loop in your manager or your whatever. Or it could be like maybe you just throw in like hoping to hear your response in like a timely manner. Okay, or another one I do is, hey

Jack, thanks for your prompt response. Really, what has been two weeks and you ain't respond back to my email? That's another one. What's a smart email for you, Wendy? I'm not in corporate America, Bryce. What about when you're communicating for your home makeover? And they're like, when do we need you?

I'll be like, Wanda, we need you. I'll be like, on my way. For my last email, I will be right there. O-M-W, thanks. Sorry, but that just reminded me of something. I was dealing with some work stuff with somebody that just loves to CC everybody in the world. And it's like,

well, first, okay, can we get back to the bottom? No, I'm not. But first of all, you CCing everyone in the world, I promise you, I promise you, that is the fastest way for you to get a response from me in three days. So if they CC everyone, so you're going to show everyone how lazy you are.

No, oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not lazy because you can look at my calendar and you can see all of the things that I'm doing and I don't have the time to take to respond to you, but I'm just telling you that's a fast track way of you not getting a response until 48 hours. But anyway, just call me Carolyn. Thank you for listening.

Um, yeah. Okay. Here's another thing. Yeah, go ahead. No, no, go ahead, Jack. I want to hear you. Well, I was going to say, as much as it didn't work for Tiana, I do think she had the right headspace here. Because if they do vote out Rachel, we see on this reward that the other six are like

these two cool are tight we got a group together and now i don't know if tiana would be target number one but maybe she'd be the one they'd be that tuku would be willing to sacrifice so i don't mind tiana here being a little bit willing to play ball unfortunately it's just like gabe uh caroline and sue are too tight you You know, Gabe has kind of the same idea, but he doesn't really mean it, and Rachel sees right through it. But I actually think it would have been beneficial for Gabe to go that route.

I think it just came off really disingenuous to Rachel. But I'm worried that Gabe, you know, is going to be in trouble here soon because even with Rachel going home and them having to vote out one of their own, they still unanimously vote out Tiana and I think Tuku's still and they were really

heartbroken about it visibly. I still think the other group is going to be like, these Tuku four now are still really tight, so we still have to target them. I think Gabe could be just kind of a premier target for that. More than Kyle?

I think more than Kyle. I think Gabe could be just kind of a premier target for that. More than Kyle? I think more than Kyle. I think Kyle will flip. Like, I think, well, one, if Kyle doesn't want immunity, I definitely think the block is hot for Kyle. However, I feel like with Tiana gone, they've taken out TK. Kyle is a free agent. And I am hoping that my baby father, Andy, can scoop Kyle up. Because I think that Andy has a good enough eye on the game that I think something like that could be possible.

But I think it is time for Kyle, if he does not win immunity, to jump ship. Okay. Yeah. I mean, Kyle seems to have some decent options so far, whereas I feel like with Sue and Gabe, we haven't really seen them connect with a ton of other people across tribal lines. So, yeah, I'm pretty worried for them.

Yeah. I agree. It is funny that with this immunity challenge, Kyle sort of has another target on him because he won individual immunity, even though myself and Genevieve were up on the beam for way longer. And like, yeah, it was just, it was, I don't know what you guys thought, but after that Kyle drops, just like Kyle wins individual immunity. And then Genevieve and Tina are like, well, we actually were still up there.

So now it's like Kyle gets credit for two straight individual immunities, even though he kind of got third place, but I don't know. That was weird with the challenge where I had to listen back to it because I didn't understand what Jeff was saying when he was explaining it. Like, whoever stays

up the longest will win immunity for the whole tribe,, whoever stays up the longest will win immunity for their whole tribe, but whoever is up longer on the losing tribe wins immunity. Yeah. Individual. Okay. Individual. Hot take.

I don't love that. Like, if you lost for your tribe, the reward is that tribe wins everybody is fair game kind of agree also you add in the safety without power that feels like it's inevitably going to be found now all of a sudden four out of 12 people are eligible to vote and that's the complaint we had in the new era is all these little like split little lose a vote safety tribals. I mean, last week was so, was really fun because everyone got a vote and it was a big tribal.

And now we're just sort of back to our old ways where it basically turns the merge, the early merge votes, which can be so interesting into legitimate. It's like a pre-merge tribal again, which are not, you know, the most exciting sometimes. Do you think that if Kyle say we didn't get immunity, right, and everyone was fair game, do you think Sol would have, you think he had a pulse enough on the game that it still would have been Rachel?

Or do you think maybe he could have, would have even considered a Kyle? It's a good question. It kind of brings me to a bigger if what bryce so if kyle if kyle didn't win the immunity right and because even though he was the longest up there and everyone was fair game do you think soul's game on giving the reward would have still been rachel or do you think he would have had a read on the game that like you know Kyle is you know I'm Sue and he's enemy number one for me like so Kyle would have really been a huge target yeah that's a good question these minds and you have all of these players and

everyone is fair game so you wouldn't be thinking of i don't know if you'd be thinking about i don't know i'm sorry i don't know yeah i still kind of think so what i think would have happened i still think he probably gives it to rachel and i still think tiana probably goes home i feel like Kyle's in an okay spot um but that brings me to a question that I kind of meant to ask which I guess is sort of like a little reverse on yours is like oh that's probably what would have happened and we obviously saw what did happen but do you guys think there is a case if you're in soul shoes shoes to give is and you know say kyle does win a minute immunity like what happened as played do you think there's a case for soul to give that advantage to

someone other than rachel well no i i think the best move is rachel right uh again i understand what you're saying like i can give it to someone and uh we that builds our relationship but i feel like giving it to rachel if you're not on the chopping block and somebody sends an olive branch it's like thank you but if you're in the middle of the ocean drowning and someone sends you a life jacket you're gonna be like oh i love you for life that is a a deeper bond and so i definitely think giving it to rachel was the right thing and it's for sure going to cement to them something some way somehow, somehow. So we hope. Because also, like,

you know, if you make it through one day, now all of a sudden you're in, like, you can have a different interest or something like that. I don't know. If I'm in the middle of the ocean and you are just on Instagram Live saying, pray for Bryce,

and Jack is throwing me a life jacket and pulling me in and the next day something happens where I got to pick between you or him even if it benefits me to go with you. Jack just pulled

my naked body out of the house. I'm going to throw you back in. First of all, second of all, that's disgusting. How did you get naked, Bryce? Where's your first one? I don't know.

You had a little encounter with a shark. Jack, when you were grabbing him, Jack, and you pulled him out, did you then release? Like, no. It was a catch and release. No. I give my mind, my body, and my soul to Jackery.

That might be in real life or death situations, Bryce. But in Survivor, when there's a million dollars on the line, and if someone saves you one night, yeah, you could be excited that night. But if interests change tomorrow, you could be voting that person out. There might be people like Wu from my season that. Honored. And integrity means something so i know i definitely think that he made the right decision let me flip the question on you and put my clothes back on jack and ask you this is it what do you think the right move for soul is to do? To immediately go back and tell Rachel and be like,

hey, saved you. Or does he wait a little bit and then say something to Rachel? Or is this something that you immediately need to go tell Rachel, like, I threw that life jacket when you was naked in the ocean. I saved you.

I would say it doesn't have to be immediate but maybe you know the next morning you go sit on the beach and you say i got you um because i think why why wait you know like you said and i kind of want to speak on the question i gave to you because i had some thoughts on that too where you made a good point of i think the personal favor saul is going to uh create with rachel is going to be stronger than if he gave it to someone else and that's it that's a good point uh that you made because to me i was thinking okay the biggest reason saul would give this to r Rachel is just to create fractures in Tuku hopefully um and if I'm Rachel who's also you know really sharp am I going to be really happy towards Saul for sure but at the same

time I'm also going to be like I think like it made sense for him to do that to create some fractures so it doesn't necessarily mean he like wants to go to the end with me but I think those are the two benefits for Saul doing this is okay. Like you can create some, hopefully create some fractions to go and you also maybe get a little bit more favor out of Rachel. The flip side of this that we didn't touch on and, you know, Zach Wurtenberger kind of threw this idea out a little bit and we kind of,

you know, worked worked on work through it i think there's a very strong case for saul to just give this to like kyle or a tuku and let rachel go home reason being you know if the tuku five votes out rachel and they prove to be as solid as everyone else believes. And on this reward, there's six non-Tukus that have now said, if these five Tukus come back strong, we need to vote one of them out. And it seems like everyone's on the same page. So if you're Saul and you actually allow that to happen, then I think your next one or two votes could actually be pretty straightforward

getting out like Gabe and Kyle. And I think at this point in the game, that's not a bad idea to have. Of course, things can always shift and always change. But this feels like a pretty obvious spot to target, to put a target on the Tukus. But now that Tiana's gone home, now I still think the Tuku look pretty tight. So we might still see a Tuku's gone home. Now, I still think the two look pretty tight. So we might still see a two being targeted next. But now you actually have Rachel as sort of an extra. And now there's seven non two goes and only four two goes, as opposed to six and five, when it's six and five, it's like, okay, we need to get a two go, or else they're going to take over the game.

When it's seven and four. Now the game sort of breaks back open, and Saul might not have those couple guaranteed votes that could have happened had they kept Tupi together. So, you know, if I'm in Saul's shoes, do I give the thing to Rachel? Most likely, because it just also feels like a little bit more of a splashy move that is just like an exciting thing to do when you're out there. But I think there's a very real case to just like let Rachel go home, who Saul is obviously not even that close with yet, it seems like,

and then put this huge target on Tuku. And maybe in doing that, you also go to, you know, maybe you give it to Gabe and then you go to Gabe and you're like, hey, I gave that to you because I want to work with you. Now you might have an option with Tuku too.

So you might have a lot of options. But I don't know. I don't think it was necessarily a bad move by any means. Just give it to Rachel because you kind of have a very obvious win that can happen. But I think there is a case to almost like allow this big, strong group to be strong as long as you can have the numbers to get rid of them. Basically. Go ahead. to be strong as long as you can have the numbers to get rid of them basically oh go ahead now basically so basically you're saying all right let's let's go down and let's get one person out

of here and enact this plan to get some more two coups out so it's like you get one step closer and then you effectuate this plan that's going to break up this bonded large tribe, which sounds just like it does sound like a good move. Right, I think of season 45, I think of Reba, right? That still is

a risky move to make, allowing this tribe to look strong, and sometimes when the train, a choo-choo, choo-choo, choo-choo, gets to go in. Reba did a really good job of hiding how tight they were. You know?

I mean... It was obvious. I remember during the season, all the talk was about nobody realized that they were such a tight four. Whereas Tuku, it's like literally all the other people were just on reward together and all agreed we've got to go for these guys.

I don't know. I don't think that it's necessarily a right or wrong answer, but it's sort of like to me, especially in the new era, I think to have a group that is so obviously tight, as long as you have more numbers than them, it's actually the tighter they are, the better. Here's another thing if the roles were reversed and we saw the yellow tribe with one blue person on it and everyone at the reward would be like oh that yellow tribe is just so strong like i don't they're fractured we know that i don't think that they appear so strong. It's just that due to

the intern from last season messing up and now we actually have to dig in the take the chances and we see what happened. It's just the optics and just how y'all saying something can happen next week. I don't think that that's really the way people are thinking, in my opinion. Can I ask the question? I mean, obviously not

how they're really thinking because it's not what happened, but I just wanted to throw that out I was like I think Rachel was for sure the obvious move but I think it's possible that something else could have been better we'll never really know of course

who knows exactly what would have happened but I don't mind that's sort of like why this is completely tangent early in the game if I have a chance to, like, be in a three-person alliance, kind of like Andy, three-person alliance with what's perceived as, like, a power duo, and I'm number three, but I'm in the majority,

I think that's great because it's like, okay, well, they're the ones who are obviously a duo and people are going to want to break them up first. So I don't mind being the third wheel or the the fifth wheel in a really strong alliance because you know you're not really seen as as the as the issue but that's that's a you know separate point well sometimes when you're wheeling and if if if those wheels have if if you might not know that those wheels might have something maybe they aim for the peripheral wheel or whatever true

sorry Bryce but I think if you are a wheel you have to make sure that you are creating good relations with a different car how do wheels create relationships?

By talking to other wheels. Hitching a different wagon. Row, row, row your boat. Um, uh, yeah,

y'all lost me a little bit. Quick question to both of you. I feel like from me watching last night, I feel like it was soul. It was, I've heard these rumblings of Kyle. I've heard these rumblings of Gabe. What do you think? I haven't really heard anyone talk about Rachel

outside of like her being safe. I want to know your thoughts on what does this do for Rachel's game? Does this just put a bigger target on Rachel or does this put her in a position of like she's connected?

What does this do for Rachel's game is my question. I don't think she's one of these all eyes on me type players. so I think it's like, alright all eyes on me type players. And, and so I think it's like, all right, you got through,

you got your lifeline now and eyes can be elsewhere. So you got, you do have a second shot at life. But does this boost your, I guess, does this help your survivor currency or does it like, that's what I'm saying. Cause like,

Oh, like, does it mean like yo you just got saved so someone else this is a not not a tick on someone else's resume or is that what you mean kind of sort of like i'm just curious like what does this like clearly i think it just helps her status as a as a free agent which i think for rachel is not a bad thing because she still has a couple connections connections with the yellow, you know,

her original Gaza tribe. She seems to be making some inroads with, you know, Lavo. And now it's sort of like for kind of through no fault of her own, she was Tuku's target, but it's not that they necessarily wanted her out in general. So it sort of seems like she's separated from every group.

And I think Rachel's a from every group and i think rachel's a really smart player i think she can you know make something happen with that because now it's starting to look like there might be some tribal lines developing people are kind of cross-targeting looking at some bigger threats i think rachel can slip through which is actually partly why i think to my point about saul kind of being willing to let Rachel go is it seems like they're not super connected yet. And I think Rachel's a threat to win. And I think she's more of a threat as a floater free agent. If she's not directly with you, then I think that collective to coup group is.

So it's possible it's like Saul might have just let, you know, the eventual winner slide through just to kind of try to fracture. Oh, oh, did you just lose? eventual winner slide through just to kind of try to fracture um oh oh did you just leave what you look like you're a silhouette now that's kind of dope actually at least you still got wi-fi yeah good thing i'm on my phone yeah you're looking at the witness right now

oh my god yeah jack talking to really like that jack talking to really deep voice so tell us what happened, sir, the night Rachel got saved from tribal council. So, so I don't think, and kind of what you asked too, but I don't think this is really a resume move for anybody. too but i don't think this is really a resume move for anybody um like soul saving her to me if i'm on a jury i'm like okay that was sort of like you had to you had to do something something for someone and rachel it's like okay you played this like what else were you gonna do like obviously you were gonna do that um what about threat level what about what does this do to

rachel's threat level anything in a way it maybe this do to Rachel's threat level? Anything? In a way, it maybe lowers it because it's like, oh, well, she was about to walk out the door and then she got saved kind of like through sheer, I don't want to say luck, but just, you know, she just got blessed by Saul. So to me, I think it's going to, I think it's going to help Rachel. I think it's going to put Rachel in a good position. She's going to be seen as a free agent. She's going to be seen as, I think it's almost that idea that's like, oh, well, Rachel almost walked out the door. We can get her out whenever. And now people might not be thinking about actually getting her out. And then she can move through.

So I don't know. I'm high on Rachel. I'm high on Rachel. Can we talk, Andy? I don't think we really talked enough about Andy and him putting everything together. Andy talking with Genevieve and realizing that Sam might have been lying to him this whole time. I love to just, you know, since I text you and said it was a great episode and you're saying it wasn't a great episode, we haven't really communicated. So I love to know your thoughts on it.

Yeah, I love the turnaround Andy's having. He's kind of kicked into a different gear. It's actually, I think, kind of a testament of we've seen a couple times now, especially in the new era, these people start off really messy. Andy, Emily

Flippin, you know ultimately they're very astute clever players and they show i think they show that early on it's like okay well you save this person but you're also kind of creating a monster in a way of someone who goes from you know maybe being an easy first out who's probably not going to win the game and then they become uh someone who has some real equity to win i like what andy's and he's so kind of i feel like he's perceived as being so on the bottom just from early on that no one's really worried and now he's actually making some really strong moves making some really strong moves, making some really good bonds. My only thing is, you know, it felt like he kind of took what Saul

said a little bit too easily. Like, it's, you know, he and Sam had a really good relationship in the pre-merge. I feel like it was a really strong, you know, they weren't always working 100%. But was it, though? But I mean, was it? Sorry, I don't mean to just cut you

off, however, because I'm going to defend my man. We see time after time where Sam is not being truthful to Andy. Like literally lying to Andy's face. Like when? When he gets the idol, pulls it back, and like doesn't tell Andy about the idol. No, that's a big deal. I don't think it's that big a deal. No, I think it is.

I mean, look. I think that there's a world where Andy might be Andy, but Andy is perceptive and I think that Andy knows that yeah, he's made himself a part of this Sam and Ciara trouble, but I think that Andy knows that, yeah, he's made himself a part of this Sam and Sierra trouble.

But I think that Andy knows that he's on the bottom. And I think that Andy knows there's a world where like they could just be using him and we don't see that. So I think hearing something from Saul could be like the icing on the cake that Andy just needed. So I don't think that like he just taking it too easy. I don't think Sam and Sierra are taking it too easy i don't think sam and sierra are like the greatest allies he could ask for but i also think they are right now is better is up until he's made these let me ask you this for the better but what i will say i just i just mean like to me if i'm andy the relationship i had with sam even though it wasn't we weren't necessarily in

lockstep the whole pre-merge but but he was my closest ally if I'm Andy. Why would he be the one to actually throw me? I would imagine But we've seen him throw Andy under the bus. Wendell, hang in. I feel like last episode I feel like people threw Andy

out and Sam was like, yeah, we can do Andy, but Sam is not intending to vote Andy out anytime soon. Sam is not threatened by Andy. But that doesn't mean that he's not like, okay, you don't have to be threatened by me. You don't have to be threatened by me for you to treat

me like a pawn, and that's still not okay. True. I'm not saying Sam's the best ally. I just think, and we don't know what's going to happen yet, I worry that Andy's going to try to flip everything on ally. I just think, I worry, and we don't know what's gonna happen yet. I worry that Andy's gonna try to flip everything on Sam when I actually think, okay, have your little thing with Sam and Sierra,

go make some new connections, and then play that middle and let things happen around you for a little bit. Because I think if he takes out Sam, then he loses a lot of options. Then he's sort of at the bottom of the whole situation. Let's talk some numbers here.

I like where he's at. All I mean to say is I felt like he accepted that Sam was the one to throw him under the bus way too quick. When I feel like the relationship they had, I wouldn't really... Right? If Saul's the one who voted for me Who Who benefits more

From this relationship Jack Sam Or Andy It doesn't matter Who benefits more I think Okay but just I'm asking a question

Who benefits more Sam or Andy I mean Up to this point Andy So I'm not saying He's the best ally But having

The connection he has With Sam You cannot tell me That's a worse connection for his game than his non-existent connections with like half the merge tribe. So he should not be targeting the person. It's all about capitalizing your social

currency, and I don't think him... We saw this a lot, like last season, people being like, oh, my ally is playing harder than I am. Now I need to turn on my ally. It's like you could have your ally. But that's how they do in the new era. I'm just saying.

And they send themselves home eventually. A person who won last season was actually the one who failed to do that even when she wanted to. Who told Sam about the Women's Alliance? Andy. It's mutually beneficial. That's why neither but is it though because i also feel like it is mutually beneficial but i also feel like when you're saying that it discredits andy from making his own arguments and i feel like yeah sam might not have wanted andy to go home

but like in that anika vote andy didn't just sit around and twiddle his thumbs. Andy was talking to people and moving things around. So I just feel like in this relationship, how the edit paints Andy is just someone who's like, oh, I— But Sam made a very active effort to keep Andy in. And Andy knows that. And so Andy was moving and shaking. All I'm saying is if I'm Andy, whether you think it's right or wrong to get them out or not, I think that Andy should have taken what, I don't, we didn't see everything, but maybe take what people say.

To me, if I'm Andy and someone told me, oh, Sam made you the plan, I'd be like, well, there's no way, that doesn't even make any sense. It would probably happen when someone threw my name out and Sam didn't want us to look too close and was like, sure, we can make Andy the backup.

And that's not that end of the world to me. But shouldn't you know that? Know what? But you can also be upset that they allowed you to be the backup. I guess, but it's like Sam was also in a group of, like, multiple people. I'm not saying Sam's the best ally. I like – see, I think Andy's doing a great job right now. Don't get me wrong. Like, him making these new inroads with people, utilizing this thing that he's on the bottom and being like, see, I think Andy's doing a great job right now. Don't get me wrong. Like him making these new inroads with people,

utilizing this thing that he's on the bottom and being like, maybe I can make some new bonds with Saul, with Genevieve. I think it's great. I just hope that he doesn't take those to then try to flip everything on Sam and make this big move. Because if he does that too early, I think he's going to then emerge as a threat and not have the connections to go far.

What he should do is still kind of keep the sam and sierra thing still keep a little rachel thing keep a little you know genevieve and saul thing let everyone target tuku and then he gets to like final seven or eight and then he's the swing vote and i think he has a really good path to win so i'm not saying he's not going to do that i just i'm a little nervous that he is just too quick to jump on new opportunities and there's such a balance because i love the initiative that he is taking in this past episode but if every episode he's like oh someone said my name new ally you're like i'm not friends anymore new ally what if it works and gets them to the end then i think look, look, I think given his kind of unique circumstances

with the meltdown he had episode one, he has like that such a low perception of his gameplay right now that he can get away with going a little too hard and maybe it'll work. But I do think that if he continues, now what we saw yesterday, I think can really end up going two ways. It could end up being very successful or it could lead to a pattern of him just like playing the bottom too hard and making these inroads. And I think we've seen a lot in the past is that people will have this perception of them being on the bottom, do a really good job of using it to get far. But then the jury still sort of sees them as that lower player and there'll be

a losing final so i think there's a very high likelihood that andy plays a really smooth game the rest of the way but because everyone always thought oh well i was working with andy because he didn't have anybody else like he wasn't that good of a player which isn't even necessarily true but if that's the perception then i could see him getting the end and being like a losing finalist for sure but there's a world where he could win I think for sure okay another hypothetical question because I know we're a little short on time because

Jack has his I got a couple more than it okay I'm just reading the reddit so don't come after the messenger but I was reading the reddit and I was reading the Reddit, and I was reading something that said one of the threads was like, Gabe for president of season

47. Is there a world walk me through either of you, is there a world that Gabe could win this? Yeah. That's unlikely. Wait, what did you say, Jack?

I said unlikely. I like watching, Gabe, and like I liked watching a lot of... My question wasn't, do you like watching? Your question

can also warrant a response that's longer than a yes or no answer. Well, that was intended. What? A yes or no? No, longer than a yes or no. Yeah, so that's what I was doing until you interrupted me. Pop off. I think there's a world where Gabe can win. You look a little sassy today you see me in my roam position

I think that Gabe is a good player and I've given him some flack look at Jack right now is a good player, and I've given him some flack. Look at Jack right now. Look how he froze. It has... Y'all know Gabe is at home.

I want to make sure whatever Jack says... Gabe Gabe what are you what are you doing up there Gabe nothing Gabe just hacked Jack's computer from his mom's basement sorry sorry

teeny lost connection a little bit Gabe hacked our computer from his basement yeah so I was like Gabe is Gabe hacked our computer from his basement. Yeah. So I was like, Gabe is, I don't know, just even whether it's him or not,

the way that they're showing him, I think is a way that's very hard to root for. And, you know, we, and what that's not, whether that's what I think or not. I mean, I've seen a lot of sentiment online about, like, the way that he talks about, especially other people, women in the game, kind of rubs people the wrong way.

And maybe they're just showing kind of the worst of that. Like, I don't think Gabe's a bad dude by any means. But if that's kind of how they're showing him to, then is that the person that I think has a chance to win from a viewing perspective? Not really. him too then is that the person that i think has a chance to win from a viewing perspective not really and i also within the game not even you know talking about edit or whatever i'm sure there's some things we haven't seen but i kind of worry in these last two episodes i haven't really seen gabe make a lot of connections with lavo i haven't seen gabe make a lot of connections with gata uh and you know he's had Tiana speaking kind of bad about him to these other two groups.

I think he could be a really prime target to go home in the next couple episodes. Yeah, I think for me, one of the things about Gabe when I was watching was during the tribal when they all were scrambling and he reached

him and Kyle were talking but it wasn't really a conversation it really was like this is what we doing do it that's it right and I was like oh I'm like maybe you should have sent Genevieve or no maybe you should have sent Carolina talk to him because like yeah

I just think Gabe has some loyal people around him and I think that that might cloud his judgment. Although I'm very intrigued to see how it plays out for him. It's the same way with how he kind of spoke to Rachel of like, OK, for all intents and purposes, Gabe thought that Rachel was going to go home unanimously. And in order to get her to not play her shot in the dark he kind of comes up with this thing like I'll go to rocks for you and now if I'm Rachel and I go back

I'd be like and Rachel doesn't buy it for a second now Rachel's gonna go tell people maybe even two people Gabe was saying he'd go to rocks to keep me safe like that's just so ridiculous I just think he's kind of overplaying his hand a little bit and he just doesn't he just comes off as really like shy.

So I, yeah, I think Gabe has a lot of the strategic skills and clearly some of the social skills with his crew of a good survivor player. But I just think there's an element to him that is just going a little too hard. Maybe his head is not fully in the gameplay part of the game. So I think part of his head is like, how do I make good TV? Which I can respect, but it also is going to hamper your game.

I don't know. Bryce, the last thing I wanted to ask before I hop off, you gave the merch appetizer a lot of flack. This reward, you know, they had ribs, corn on the cob, beer, I think they had. Was this a better reward for you? A lot better. It wasn't just a charcuterie board. It wasn't appetizers. The ribs

looked good. The corn looked good. This was a feast that I enjoyed watching. Although it was just kind of annoying because it's not even the merge feast. Because you're not even really merged because unfortunately with tiana going home she's not doesn't even make the jewelry especially you know thinking in her mind rachel's going home like almost for sure and then all of a

sudden that's pulled away and half an hour, you're not even on the jury. That's definitely brutal. What has to be even harder is if when Jeff is talking to you and during multiple times throughout tribal council, you're crying saying how much you want to be here and how much at this point the merge means to you. And in the background of you crying, you see people leaning in, talking. And more than likely, they essentially are saying, you, that was hard to watch. Yeah, definitely. Next up, so now we've got the jury and we also have the Survivor auction coming up.

I'm excited for that. Feels a little bit earlier than they usually do it, but never complain about it. Yeah. Justice for Tiana. For sure. Justice for our girl, Tiana. She was my winner pick. She, uh, she had some juice and gone too soon.

Despite what Jack says, I still think this episode was a crazy episode. And if someone in the comments can send me their number that I can text them on Wednesdays, because I will no longer be texting Jack what I think about the episode when he texts me. I was excited to say that it was a good episode, but needless to say, this was a great episode.

We'll be back next week covering episode eight. Make sure you go out and vote. It is important. So make sure you go out and vote and rock the vote. We'll be back next week. Thank you so much. It's been your Survivor News Season 47, Episode 7. Peace. It's the Purple Pants Podcast. She's trying to unwind. You better get that box of wine.

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