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Episode Date: October 24, 2025

Survivor News  is back and the tension is rising! Brice, Wendell, and Jack are diving into Survivor 49, episode 5 — “I’m a Wolf, Baby.” From Savannah’s fiery water-bottle moment to Shannon���s risky gameplay and Jason’s scramble to stay in the mix, the Baby Boys are breaking down all the shifting dynamics as new tribes settle into the chaos. Who’s gaining ground, who’s losing their grip, and who’s just trying to survive the heat? Expect laughs, strategy talk, and all the island vibes as the crew unpacks another wild week of Survivor.

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Season 49 Episode 5 This is Survivor News With the Baby Boys First and foremost I want to introduce a fan favorite One of the best

to introduce You got sound effects? Wow. One of the best to ever do it. Some people would say he was an alternate on season. Every season, he is from the These drops are killing me.

He is from the floor is lava, the one and only the man the myth of legend the Jackery is in the building Let's go Bryce said if I'm not allowed to talk as much I'm going to sound effects I don't think anyone would say I'm one of the best to ever do it

but I appreciate the praise and yeah It's good to see you Jackery It's good to see you look like you might have You might You know, it might be early morning where you are. It's the time zones.

Yeah, I might have just rolled out of bed a little late. But I'm excited. You know, I got me a Yerba Mata. Recent add to the fridge. So you guys had Yerba Mata? No, I have it. It's actually really good. It's like, it tastes like, you know, sweet tea, but it's pretty heavy caffeine.

So it's like a coffee. it's like the strength of the coffee but it's just like a nice sweet tea that's how jack's heart is going on there herbamate yeah in about 10 minutes I'm gonna be I'm gonna have some hot takes all of a sudden Bryce can we do sound effects too can we get access to sound effects let's uh let's continue to podcast okay and we have joining us as well you know

he is on a his voice is on spring break today so we're going to put a little we're going to make him talk a little less today because y'all were in the comments letting my man know he's got too much to say one and only from season 28 Kagayan

he might have only lasted a day or two but he still one of the best to ever do it the one and only Bryce Isaiah is in the building ladies and everybody Thank you, thank you, thank you. Excited to be here. You know, the baby boys being the comments. Y'all said I was jarring last episode, okay?

Wait, hold on, because I looked through the comments. I didn't even see that. But whoever said that, I mean, this is the Bryce Isaiah YouTube, baby. You better get used to me. Bryce, you can never talk too much in my book. Okay. Yes, he can, Jack. Yes, and I was cutting off.

But listen, I just want to let you all know that when I get with my brothers, I had a coffee. I was just fresh back from San Diego. And so I was hype. I was cold. You got to be wet. Okay. Listen.

Well, I mean, somebody got to talk. When do I want to talk? So I don't know. Listen here. I wanted to talk a lot last episode, but you were being so jarring. Did you just shoot me? No, that was shot fire. But listen.

Well, let's also. Welcome back. You might know him from the first merge boots. You might know him from Beach Cabana Royale. You might know him from Winners at War. You might know him from Extreme Home Makeover, Home Edition. You might know him from something coming up very, very, very, very soon. Let's welcome to the podcast, the ever so.

jarring when DZ Holland was popping with you. What's up, Bryce, Isaiah. We back, we back, we back. I'm reporting live from Kansas City. Hey. Bryce might be back in Philly already because he likes to take the flights at two in the morning. That is true.

Baby boy got a job, got a log on, got to do whatever I got to do. But we were in Kansas City last night yesterday. and it was our first time in KC and Kansas City definitely showed out. We have nothing but love for the Midwest. We had some greats pull up to our event. We had Tyson Addis Pool. We had Quintavius.

We had Michaela. We had Nehemiah. We had Leanne from the Squid Games. We had West from the Challenge, Road Rules. There was a star-studded building. We also, we thought, we were in Kansas City for a Bryce and when little did we know we were in

Kansas City for the Kansas City Open between Tyson and Q a pickleball match that Bay Bay, one thing about Q, Q, Q, you're serious. What was your thoughts on that match, Wendy Z? Well,

yeah, it was intense and a little history, we don't need to spoil what happens, because the footage will come out but a little history Tyson beat Q badly the first time they played

wrong placement and Q and Q wanted to get a little rematch in so it looks as though Q has been practicing a whole lot. Wow. I was going to say I know Tyson's an avid

pickleballer and I didn't know if that was in Q's wheelhouse but it sounds like Q's been training, so I'm excited to watch. I'll tell you something else. It seems like Q might have baited Tyson into because, you know, all I said was, hey, Q, make a little video for me to post on Instagram on the Bryson web page. And in the video, he said, and if anybody wants it, I'll play against any of the fans. Matter of fact, how did he get in it?

Tyson, I will fly you out. And Tyson said, hey, if you want this smoke, I'm coming. He jumped on a flight the next morning, and they played last night. Wow. And it was one of those ones. We will release the footage, too. Absolutely. And again, I was telling Wendy's this morning as I was landing and Wendell was getting up and Jack was sleep.

The Midwest, nothing but love. And I think this tour, the Bryson Wynne, 49, the blueprint heart is so full. Every stop that we have stopped at, this is our fifth stop. The first leg of the Bryson Wynne Tour, 49 is over and we're gearing up for our second half. But the posse just runs so deep. Like when I say like deep, deep, like just, I had a posse member telling me that when she was pregnant last year, she was hoping for a boy so that she could name the baby. Bryce. And I mean, it doesn't get much deeper than that. West's wife, Amanda, is a OG posse member. It was just so much love. We had people coming in from Minnesota, drove in, a young lady and her mom, Salam, who had an amazing time. We had Jacob E and Jacob B. We had Jeremy. There was just so many people in the building. There were people saying, where's Jack? Jack needs to come to the Midwest.

Sorry, Kansas City. It's hard to get here. I'll tell you that. Is it? Because my flights were direct in and direct out. Why, Wendell, four flights to get home? I have no idea.

No, I got a direct flight, but all of a sudden they sent me through Chicago, you know, now I'm here. You pass, your pass. But listen, Wendell and I are, are super excited that the Bryce and Win Tour is continuing to gain momentum and we are just

excited. We're humble kings and you know, we're loving what we are building and as we are building our next stop is going to be Dallas with the baby boy Mitch, Michaela Q, Lauren,

Abraham, Brooklyn, Kat and Alex Philip from Deal or No Deal and it doesn't stop there. We are heading to Denver from Denver will be in Chicago and also you know now I feel like this is a you if you know you know my man my man Ozzy is a part of the Bryce and Went 249 and Ozzie is doing a pop-up of one night only one night only that's all I have to give in New York on November 19th he's also going to be

down in Atlanta. So listen, we have so much more for you. We haven't even released our finale information yet. But, you know, word on the street is it might be coast to coast. So if you're in the West Coast with a Jackery, you can come on to hang out. If you're in the East Coast with a me and Wendy Zee, you can come on a hang out. But also in between time, if you're Squid Games, Squid Games, too. The challenge is getting ready to kick off.

And we are hosting a Squid Game event in Philadelphia, November 11th. We've got some of the OG squitters come in and word on a block is some new squids might be even there. So tickets are available. You can click the link in the Bryce and When present Instagram or Twitter or our Instagram bios. And we could see you on the tour. We are just gearing up and they, all of the stops have been amazing. So super excited. This episode was a, it was a good episode.

I think that we got a lot that I want to talk about but you know what be honest to say look around it everybody y'all mute so we do have a lot to talk about and I'd like to pass it to Jackery Ackery

I mean Wendo this was your this was your big moment to step up and really get things going and you want to pass it off I mean yeah we can we can get into it um harsh oh sorry I'm thirsty

you know jack we can start anywhere you want to start there are what are you drinking bryce this new brand of water well i guess we'll start there Bryce is making a brand of water that says not joan's water i think that we're going to have to start labeling our our personal effects not joan's anything because or maybe just savanna might have to because it seems as though Duan is taking her bag, taking her water, and I'll tell you what, to his face, I think Savannah is doing a pretty good job, kind of like laughing it off, ha ha, oh, you're being silly, Juan.

But man, like, I mean, she does a good, she tells us in confessionals, she tells other people, it's like, yo, I'm tired of this. y'all thought the shoe bandit was uh was one thing we got the bag and the water bandit to joan's defense though right i feel like in watching the episode i feel like i'm a good judge of character and in both of those moments that we have seen the bag and the water you could clearly see on joan's face where he's like ooh my bag but it is like why you keep going for savannah's water bottle but but it is like why you keep going for savannah's water bottle but But in this game of Survivor, you have to be careful of those type of things because when you are on a tribe that necessarily hasn't been depleted yet, any little thing can make you a target. And I'm already kind of like concerned for Joanne because I don't know where we want to go with this. But again, everybody look around, everybody on. I'm concerned for Joanne because it seems as though like, and he's a fun character.

I love watching everything he does from when he talks to Uncle Jeff in Tribal. When he does this, like when he's in a challenge giving it his all and we're like watching him try to like lead them comeback,

you know? Everything Joanne does, he makes compelling TV and we'll get to his challenge performance and everything. But yeah, it seems as though in his group

he's helped facilitating, he's helped, facilitate other people get eliminated but it looks like he's going to be at the end of that line soon and that's what's scaring me i would agree oh oh sorry jack i don't want to cut you off oh don't brace let one silly little comment it was about four it was it was about four and you won't be able to find them anymore for so somehow they disappear no but you're good hey i mean because if they're saying that you cut me off i cut you guys off just as much.

I get, I get too excited sometimes. So I'm just glad we got Wendell participating more of this episode, and that's on us to give them that space to jump in. Because Wendell gets a little nervous sometimes, but. Nervous. It was just funny.

After last week, you were like, guys, I was trying to get in there. We're like, you just got to, you just got to jump in. You're like, when I got on the phone,

and Wendell was like, I give you and Jack Q's. I was like, well, what's the cue? Jack, he said this was his cue. Now, I said, no, that's my cue. It was that. I just said, it's like I'm about to talk. We got it for years.

You guys know my cues, but you guys have commandeered the space, and I know how to defer to the star players. No, but we're switching things up this episode. So, you know, whatever you think, you don't get there. Okay. But yeah, with Joanne. So it is, I agree. It is kind of, uh, now the bag,

sorry, right side, Mr. Q? Oh, sorry, sorry. I was something. I was, just, I was checking you. The, the bag thing was, was tough. Now, in a vacuum, I don't think the water bottle thing was so bad. Like, you know, that might be a mistake that happens. But obviously, after the bag thing, I think you've got to be on high alert and make sure you're not taking any more Savannah stuff. It does seem like Joanne is a little bit kind of at the end of the rope a little bit

with them, but the nice thing is it looks like a swap is coming, and then presumably the merge soon after that, that could actually give Joanne some room as like people are going to look at him as a potential swing vote. So if Juan plays his cards, right, obviously he's not in the best spot with the Uli's necessarily, specifically Savannah, but I think there's opportunities for him to make some moves, because we see the Hina, yellow tribe. Those guys have been coming to him. And I can see the other Hina, like Stephen and M.C, that are over on the other beach,

also maybe coming to Jawan. Here's what I want to add, right, with that, right, where you're saying Hina might come to Jawan. The thing that scares me about Jawan is every time somebody come to Jawan and be like, hey, yo, you want to work out, Joanne, like, yeah. And then he goes back to the tribe. He'll be like, ha, ha, ha, can you believe, Jack, Wendell wanted to work with me?

Wendell said he's going to put his shot in the dark. He's going to put it under his underwear, bury it. And if he felt like, you know, it's like, I'd be like, Joanne. Like, James Jones always says knowledge is power. So if you know this person, like, you don't got to tell them. And so that's my one concern with DeWan is that he is so locked in with the red that even if someone else was to come to him from Yuli, I feel like he's going to deliver that information.

So I'm worried about where he actually sees his perception in the tribe. And it almost reminds me of Sifu from season 45. Do you remember Sifu was like such this big personality? And it felt like the core alliance on that tribe didn't really see it for Sifu, right? And I've kind of seen that a little bit with Joe. Juan, and I feel like this could really give Joanna opportunity. He could crack the Red Team open, but kudos to the Red Team, a Riz, a Savannah, that although us as viewers see how they like, shout if Joanne touched my stuff again, to us, it's like

unbeknownst to Joanne. So it's like, it's so interesting because it's like really good Survivor play on both, like, on the Red Tribe, but then also there is a, there is a. It's a huge move that Joanne could potentially make if he's willing to break away from the red or at least explore the opportunities. Like, listen, Joanne, we know you like your job. But go on indeed, upload your resume

and just take the interviews. You don't have to take the job and you don't got to tell your job. Jovi's like, hey, guys, I'm going to go on lunch, but I'm really going to take an interview. Like, you don't got to tell them that. Yeah, just take your PTO and take a day off and do your news. I think that my hope for Jawan is that I think he recognizes, hopefully, that in this

pre-merged swap situation, I really do think it's in the best interest of all the Red Tribe members to stick together and to take out a mat and then a Jason. And so for Jalon, it's like you don't want to play too many games and get caught up in some lives. So it's going to be transparent and just be like, they're trying to do this. they're trying to do that. I'm with you guys. Now, obviously, I'm hoping after the merge,

when things really start to ramp up, that Joanne will do exactly what you said, Bryce, and play with those options a little bit more. But I feel like he's got the potential to do that. So it'll be interesting to see it. That's what I want to ask you guys, because Jack, you just answered. Does you just lead with your signal?

Yes. I gave you the signal. I put it up there. I said that's what I wanted to say as far as Jawan. Like, Bryce, do you see him post-merge? We'll see him get to the merge. Post-merge, do you see him actually making a move and branching from this Red Tribe or what?

I don't know. Because, one, we know that he has the knowledge in him. We see in his confessionals. He talks about the different options, but he doesn't move on them. And so I just, my worry is I just don't want Joanne's back to be against the wall before he starts exploring other options because then it, you lose your power. And so I think that he absolutely has it in him.

It's just, I don't know if the bigger question is, does he see where he's at with the other rat? It's like, that's kind of like, that's my real question. But I feel like I feel like he gets it But I feel like he's almost Being like willfully blind or something Like It's like

Bro you see You know You know that they're good And that you're A little out of it So I feel like I feel like this

I feel like he's got to know that I do feel like he's in better standing With the other Ouli outside of Savannah though than we probably see now Nate threw his name out a little bit but I feel like I mean we even saw

Rizzo be like I've always been cool with Jawan like um but I the other interesting question for me after the merge is assuming that Jemone might be and now we still got a swap next week too so there is a swap coming but with this storyline um

the other big question here is like would Jawan be the type where maybe some Hina or Alex or whoever approach him with an opportunity to make a move and flip and he gets on board with that or is Joanne going to be the type where he sees his position

then goes and gets his people and then makes him move because to me those are two very different things where if Joanne's kind of brought on board convinced to flip, I think that weekends his game a little bit whereas if he's the one who's like I realize I got to make a move

he goes and sets up all the pieces and makes things happen himself that could really boost his case a lot and I don't know with with Juan which route is more likely for him. I think he's the type where he would acknowledge he has to make a move and go try to shake things up. But I also do think Jawan trying to create the move

against like a Savannah or against a Rizzo. I mean, those are some really strong players who I feel will get it out pretty quick. So that could be tough too. Yeah. Can we, we also talk about a similar player that's on the other tribe. I want to talk about Shannon.

because I was giving her some ish last week but and y'all help like help decipher my words here right because I absolutely think Shannon is you know she got a podcast doing the most right and Wendell and I will be on it soon and listen I don't think Shannon lied

on her podcast title because Shannon is doing the most okay let me be clear on that However, bitch, I'm not mad, right? Like, I feel like how they're editing her. It's a lot. But, like, if she, first of all, let's just be clear. It's a lot of sharks out there, okay? We got Savannah.

We got Shannon. I mean, at this point, we got name. We, like, I mean, because my mind, because name's the shark, okay, Don't let We'll get to date Nate Nate might be a granddaddy shark Okay, you know

But he's still Don't dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun Let's also be clear Sage is a shark She you know She might like a different You know She's a wolf she said

She's a wolf shark But let me just be clear though Right because again I do think Shannon is doing the most. But when you're on this tribe and it's only you and the other person from the other tribe, baby, it's either lay down or get down.

Get down or lay down. And like, I think a lot of people would agree she is laying the foundation. But again, it is coming off a little too hard. but would you, like, I'm just not mad at the foundation, Wendy's.

We saw Sophie do this last week, two weeks ago. Sophie was moving and shaken, talking to different people and getting ends with everybody, and now she's gang gang, you know what I'm saying? In this case, Savannah is moving and shaken, and it seems like some of them are looking at that a particular way. And once they start comparing notes, it's like, oh and and it's I think it's sage that's clocking her the most like oh she's going to find whatever makes you tick and use that but also when you're meeting people you find you know

you learn about people and you talk about what makes them tick so it's like I think I think so I think um Shannon is doing what she needs to do by trying to get in with everybody but also Sage is doing what she needs to do and clocking that to everybody. So they're working differently. They're both working. They're both sharks and they're both working against each other.

And it's just interesting to watch their two styles. It is what I see is Shannon is a defensive shark. Right? Like she is on the defense. Right? Like she's like she's busing moves. Wait, am I saying it wrong?

And I feel like Sage is an all. offensive sharp, where Sage is like, okay, I've seen that play that you did, and now I'm going, that's called defense. Okay, so, okay, so. If Shannon's like offensive and playing defense. Yes. Shannon, my bad. Shannon is offense.

And mind you, it's, it's working pretty well, but Sage has the vantage point to play defense now. And now Sage can be like, oh, you come, you. You're coming on hard. Now let me just drop a little gym. And it seems to be working because she's even got a steve it. And it's like it's picking up momentum. And this is why I love Survivor, right?

Because who side is going to win? And so to all of your people that's like, oh, this season. Okay. So the James Jones is out there that said the new era is failing. I feel like there are seeds being planted. And you have to pick up these nuggets because I'm talking about anything. I'm picking up Nugget

and I want to see how it's about I want to see how it's about to explode. Whoa. And also, what's so cool

is you, like, we've seen this peculiar edit of sages. She collects her blackheads. I ain't no wrong with that. Show me your jar of blackheads. Hold on.

She does, She's a peculiar character, right? But she's playing the game. And when you see someone, when you know, when you recognize that the two of you are probably the target's on your beach, and you see someone moving and shaken, I don't know if everyone would clock that and disseminate that how Sage has done it. Other people might react differently. They might clam up. They might, you know, who knows.

We're watching Sage do what she's got to do. right now, and I'm impressed by that gameplay. I don't know how, again, I don't know, like you dropped the bomb. We don't know what the fallout will be. The thing of what I think I like the most about Sage in this dichotomy is that if it's Jack and I on a tribe, and Jack and I are the only two people, and Jack and I aren't talking game to each other, then what would that mean? We're talking game to other people.

However, because Sage kind of realizes how Shannon looks at her, right, we see that interaction with them at the well, and we see Shannon's confessional. And Shannon says, well, Sage isn't really talking strategy to me, but normally what's followed up by a statement like that is, yeah, Jack ain't really talking strategy with me. So I think Jack's against me. That's what, like, you know, the fact that Shannon doesn't even say that to me is like, we need to, we need to be giving Sage some praise where she's maneuvering in a way that it could potentially work out for her. And so, like, again, Sage might be a little, you know, she might show up a little late to the soccer game, but the coach just kicked her in and she making some play, she making

some offensive plays. Yeah. Yeah, I thought it was pretty ballsy when she sat down with the whole rest of the tribe and, like, laid some things out. I was like, ooh, that usually doesn't work out. But it seems like it might work out here. I was like everyone kind of, and she gave some information. I mean, she really committed to just selling out the old Uli, which in her position, both within this swap tribe and also how she was kind of viewed on the original Uli tribe. I don't hate it.

Like, she's pivoting, making a hard pivot, but she's making sure that she's going to be more in with this. group known Shannon is and then she might have a new home come the merge and she could be a pivotal piece to this this impending war at the merge so um yeah i mean sage is definitely clocking some things and navigating uh much better than i think like a Shannon anticipated or yeah but so sage she put in some work it'll be interesting to see how it plays out she's giving major carol in this episode it even downs of her voice like the way she was intonating like my friend, I was watching with some friends and we were like, that's just like big, big time Carolyn vibes. It will be interesting to see because I feel like sometimes in this game of Survivor, we all talk about it.

And it's like to see Shannon's approach of being like forward and connecting and ensuring that you're connecting with everybody, which is a good thing. Like, you know, like it's power and numbers. And also it's interesting to see someone like a sage that's like, I got to find my footing. And so will ultimately Shannon that got there first, will her connections be longer lasting, or will, can someone like a sage come in there and kind of blow it up? It would be interesting to see. And again, why I love the game of Survivor, because these two things could be happening on completely different tribes and work out completely different. And so it's like the makeup of this tribe that is so interesting because we see a Christina who has this connection, right? We see an MC who has this connection.

We see a Stephen who's like, I don't know. We see a Stephen and Sage working together. We know that MC wasn't too fond of Stephen, but now MC and Stephen are together. Now we see MC, Stephen, and Sage talking to Christina. So it's interesting to see how these puzzle pieces will move. But again, I'm taking notes. And so, like, yeah, not a lot is happening. But if y'all got your notepads and clocking all of these gems,

100%. Yeah, the pre-merge has been kind of slow, but there's some things being set up, some Domino's being set up where I think after the merge, we're going to have some hard-hitting episodes. So I'm crossing my fingers that we, that that is true. Yeah. I also thought I was curious when I saw this journey. Okay, so we, this journey is,

So I want to know what y'all think. I immediately thought of my baby boy, Xander. But again, when we're talking about Joanne and the Red Tribe, or what's formerly known as the Red Tribe, when they get this information. And shout out to Jason, who Jason said, hey, listen. It ain't nobody but me now. And I want to go.

We talk about how hard Joanne is playing. Joanne said, all right, y'all three want to go. We want to make sure that Jason don't go. Joanne said, let me go get some rocks and put it right on top. And so, again, we see how hard Joanne is down for the Red Tribe. And so it's just interesting. What does y'all think of that little sneaky, sneaky play by Joanne? And also, let us be clear.

Joanne ain't get that rock by accident. He thought it was Sage's rock, okay? He thought he was grabbing Sage's rock. No, that was great. That was awesome from Joanne. like that's the type of thing he has that in his in his personal you just need yeah uh it kind of did it i think lower it harp did something similar on like 44 i don't even know if

they really showed it but i definitely was thinking like if you couldn't there's ways to manipulate that little rock draw i was even thinking like if you want to be the one to like go get the rocks you just you just hold the one you want pretend to put it in the bag and then reach it oh i got i got the white one um so i mean i I thought it was great from Jaun because, yeah, you don't, even if Jason goes at all, then there's, all of a sudden, there's, even if he doesn't get anything, nobody knows. And so there's, there's worry and there's fear and that can turn on Jant. So it's just best to send a Nate, you know what I mean?

Even though Nate ain't want to go. Nate, like, anybody but Jason, but how Nate get to go? I, um, what does y'all think of this journey where they get there? There's a million sandbags. And I immediately, when MC started reading the clue, I feel like it says something like, let's start off with moving the sandbags. I was like, oh, this has to be interesting. And essentially, they have to move all of the sandbags to what looks like a half a mile down the beach within the hourglass time.

Also, half a mile. That's what it looked like. But also, uh-ha, y'all ain't want to see the hourglass, but guess what? The hourglass was back. The hourglass was back. it was just being used to tell time it wasn't reversing time but was it back

did it come back it's yeah that's what people mean when they say they don't want the hourglass but is it back yeah now if Jolinsky has anything to say about it

Jolinsky at home like I thought I broke that how did they get how they put it back together well okay I thought it was interesting to have like the little sweat component and then introduce this element of there's an advantage and they could kind of like turn on each other they could sort of work together on it and I'm a Nate fan I love everything Nate's brought to the season his disposition the strategy he's been he's brought like I like all of it and I also agree like especially in his position I don't know if you necessarily want to go on a journey and then but once you're there and then you've also put an effort into bond with mc and that could be an asset to you down the line like just calling it quits like i can also say not wanting to go on a journey but he also said he doesn't want an advantage i'm like my guy it's

called an advantage for a reason if it's there go look for it like especially if mc's down I can understand him not wanting MC to get it, but there's also an opportunity if you go look, you could get it. And then him after bonding with MC calling her over when the hourglass is like, you know, they were probably carrying bags for at least like an hour and a half

or two hours. And then we see the hourglass and it's probably still 65% full. And so when you call MC over like, oh, it looks like our time might almost be a, like shown you're a smart guy too. she's now all of a sudden all the inroads you made she's going to be like what like that's super weird like I don't know how how much MC read into it because we didn't fully but I'm

sure MC is like kind of sussed out so now you had this good relationship building and that could have soured it and then also you just had it now it ultimately kind of worked out because I get not wanting MC to get an advantage but also I'm like Nate why would you say that you don't want yourself like that you should be open to that I feel like it now so solid and it's like I don't mind the general sort of more conservative approach as opposed to like I got to make big moves and did because you can kind of go crazy doing all that but an advantage you can still be an asset doesn't have to be the main focus of your game where you're out looking for idols all day but if there's one that's you're apparently you can just go fine and you have a 50 50 shot at it

go take a look especially don't just let MC go look by herself for a little bit while you're devising how to just like end it you know what I mean? Maybe he was just tired and was like you know what? I don't want her to get it I am tired I'm good you know what I'm over it

send us back home we move these sandbags MC moved to sandbags but no I'm with Nate though because I'm with y'all first of all I've stood 10 toes down on this podcast in the new era miss me with the Beware Advantage because

if I find one I'm putting it back I don't want it and I'm not mad at that because again if you watch any of the new and Nate seems to be ingratiated with the Red Tribe so it's like they'll trust him but you know how

these journeys work you come back with nothing automatically they're looking at you suss so I'm not mad at a Nate kind of being like I don't really want any part of it. The part of what I thought would have been interesting was that I would have absolutely let MC get an advantage, right?

Because now that's information that you have. And if we get to a swap, I'm on the same with her. Now it's like, you're going to have to break bread with me. Or if and when we merge, I could utilize that information at any time if I'm against the wall to say she has something. So I thought it would have maybe been in his best interest. like let emcee cook a little bit

but let's just be clear like Nate was tired okay Nate was tired where you MC is 60 seconds left come on MC's like first of all I would have cussed Nate out

at that point of time but I also was thinking if I was Nate now this now this might have been a little a-ho move I just it through that tired Nate just put the just bring the back over there and let MC keep looking

and what she'd get back but that's the even worse version of what you did where she'd be like yo what like why did you do that what do you think what I would have okay this is what I would have did

uh oh I would have took the back I would have crossed it and then I would have that counts right and then I would have took it back no you wouldn't have done yet but that's crazy and left it to hear and let the MC

imagine MC finds the advantage comes back she's like I found it and the producers like nope challenge already ended like it doesn't count and Nate's like I don't know what they're talking about that's crazy no Nate can say

he was exhausted he was like I got confused I just saw the bag and I figured I put it there then I said oh my like I feel like there's a way Nate could have like Well he would try to it

MC would be like bro what are you talking about The only person that could pull that off is Joanne Yeah but MC was with it though She didn't trip out Because again

I think the way MC handled this was smart as well Because one I would have been like What is you talking about Nate Like I think I would have gotten into a verbal altercation because I'm like, what are you doing? But the way that she was like, okay,

maybe kind of clocked it and kept it moved it. Just being like, it is what it is. She went with the flow. I feel like if I were in her shoes, I'd be like, bro, we got like two hours left. Can I go look for a little bit? Like, can we go look for a little bit? But then it's like he either kind of begrudgingly agrees

or he does something crazy and like moves the bag anyways. And all of a sudden, that's your enemy. Then I'd be like, then there's just beef like I'd be like dude what was why do you hate me like so at least you go along with it

like MCD you're not making any enemies so right I also thought during this episode there were two like really very like nuanced and important conversations and I think while MC is talking about she's looking back at all

like I said when MC is having this very like critical moment of like reflecting on her childhood she tells us she says I look back at all those sandbags and said, dang, that's me. She ain't say, dang, that was me and Nate, okay?

Just watch all the clock that, okay? But MC talks about being a taller woman, being this, like, fit woman and like growing up being teased about it. And one of my best friends is a six-foot beautiful black woman. And I remember a high school, her just feeling so insecure about her being tall and people looking at her. And so I like these conversations that we're getting to see. And for me specifically, like black women talk about things like this where MC is like, I used to cover up myself. And I always say on this podcast, like, when you're growing up, whatever you feel like makes you

weird, makes you awkward, it truly is your superpower. So I loved hearing MC kind of come to this realization like, I'm a baddie, okay, been a baddie all my life, tall, strong, okay? Nate over there, tall with amex platinum access to exclusive amex pre-sale tickets can score you a spot track side so being a fan for life

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okay like no but i love her uniqueness is and her strength and her like statuous physique and everything, that's her superpower. And she's like really exhibiting it out there. She carried

people on her shoulders last week. Absolutely. And even at like our watch party last night, we had this beautiful young black girl who loved Michaela. And she was a tall, she was in like the 10th grade, but she was tall. And so like, again, I just love this

like representation of like these beautiful black queens and black girls and brown girls at home or any girls at home can see like, no Matt, if you tall, like, you know, you will grow and blossom when it's your time. And sometimes we want to blossom before it's our time. I think that's a lot of our problems. Like, you know, just be a child.

Let, let things go. And that's why I'm staying at my young, ripe age in my 20s. And when it's time for me to blossom, I'm a blossom. Let the hourglass trickle down. Okay. Don't listen to Nate. Your time ain't running out. Yeah.

So, Bryce, you said there were two moments, you said? Yes. Yes. So another one was during the challenge, and I thought the challenge is really, really good. We can get into it because I got some good moments. But, you know, on this podcast, I do take my time. And we like to, the way that we show love on this podcast is we jerk people's chickens. Whoa. Wait, what is the say?

Jane? I don't know. But anyway, you. You yank people's chains? Yanked people's chains. That's not one's going to do that jerk and they're not yanking anything. How about that? But during this challenge, it definitely wasn't a Sudoku and it definitely wasn't a puzzle. And we saw Alex cooking.

And Alex really held it down for his tribe. And Alex had a confessional where he was saying, growing up, you know, he was, or people perceived him as being feminine. And I think that that's, I don't even think Survivor talked about that enough because for me that was such a powerful, powerful statement because I have conversations like this a lot with a lot of my friends where I feel like

the expectation of a black man, they have to be this masculine, have to be this, like if you're a heterosexual, straight man you have to fit into this mold and when you're not they want to call you feminine or they want to like label you as gay and first of all I ain't nothing wrong with that but I also feel like with other men and again I can only just speak to what I know I feel like with other races of men they're not held to that standard and so I really loved Alex kind of talking about that saying like look all the people that was calling me feminine I'm out here getting basketballs

and not choking chickens but I'm killing chickens. And I just thought that that was like a really interesting conversation. And again, like, even with you, window, like, and you being my friend, right? Where, like, you're a heterosexual black man, but you're not the typical black man. And I feel like a lot of the times, and you can

even talk about to you in high school, like, where people want to say because you don't fit the mode, they're like, oh, when DZ is gay or something. And it's like, what about him? I mean, well, I mean, I could you know, maybe, but no, but like, what about him, right? Like, because he's not fitting into this mold that you perceive as like what. And, like, that's the problem.

And, like, let's also just be clear, masculine and femininity does not determine or have anything really to do with sexuality. So, like, let's also talk about that. And so I think that Alex opening up that conversation, I thought was revolutionary and very nuanced. and I like I commend Alex for like being vulnerable and having those vulnerable moments as a black man because there is this standard that black men have to be and if you're not, you're looked at as something different. And so like shout out to Alex for just being himself

and being comfortable with having that conversation. I think that takes a lot of strength on his behalf. I think I also commend Survivor for airing that conversation, that super nuanced. point that he that he mentioned so yeah kudos to Alex yeah good point Bryce way to where to dissect that

I mean I hope I wasn't talking too much but again you know you blocked it on a level that I well I mean even watch the episode there was some combo going on so I don't I didn't even really catch that during the episode but then you broke it down to another layer too so I appreciate that I mean I totally agree with that it's like I think when people are emotionally intelligent and nuanced it have diverse personalities, like you could balance some masculinity and some things that would be considered traditionally not masculine. And that doesn't, you know, that just makes you a well-rounded person.

That doesn't mean that doesn't dictate anything about your sexuality. And if you know yourself enough where you're comfortable in your sexuality that you can do whatever you want, you know what I mean? So. But sometimes I just feel like black men are held to a different standard, right? because, again, I don't, and I don't want to go too deep down this rabbit hole, but like, uh, in my opinion, someone like a Cochran, right? Like, you know, he, he's not the most masculine man, but I, you don't see people throw in gay on his name, right? Like, and so that's what I mean by these nuances and these like type of perceived things that

black men have to be. And so, again, why I love the diversity initiative, because not only do we get to see people in different shapes, sizes, and colors, we get to see people as full people. And it's not what you actually think. And so it breaks down just so many barriers. And there are so many people that could be at home that are in high school, that might have feminine characteristics and getting teased and called gay.

And they're like, I'm not gay. And that's a trauma that, like, they have to go with. It's just so much. And so I just love the fact that it's like, be who you are. And don't let anybody tell you what you are. And whenever you know what you are, you don't even have to tell the world. But just being comfortable and seeing different representations in different forms, I think, really just speaks a lot. And also, again, when MC shot that shot and missed, and they gave it to Alex, I said, oh, Lord, oh, my God.

I looked at window. I said, oh, my God. and Alex said whoosh I said oh okay and Riz got the basketball player

okay he said let me take one out of Juan's book because the Riz got I think Alex was doing that too though they were all doing the underhand I'm like man where's your jumpers that

we used to have NBA players out here and now everyone's just shooting granny style that's crazy y'all better put some respect on Jouan name though okay No, just, I mean, I want to see, you know, I want to see some jumpers, not some of you guys.

But it's a bucket of, it's a bucket of, and I know Riz is apparently a hooper too. I'm like, bro, let's see the jumper. That's what he says, Jack, but you know, Jolensky said the same thing. I let me, Jolensky shot the hourglass. But, okay, listen, I don't know a lot about basketball. Ding, but if you shoot like this and it misses, that's considered a, brick, right? No. It can be. Okay, but if you

shoot like this, if you shoot what's this form for our listeners that are watching at home? Like a basketball jumper, like a jump shot. So if you shoot a jump shot and it misses, that does not count. Right? It doesn't count if you shoot it. Okay. But if you shoot it,

Joanne, Jolensky, and Alex style grandma, mom, and it goes in, does that count? Well, Yes or no, Jack Yeah, this is terrible logic Yeah, yeah No, no, because y'all not going to say

I'm talking over there I'm just making a point y'all But if you shoot it like a jumper And it goes in Okay, but that's not You're saying it you miss one way And then make it a different way I'm trying to make a point back

When I said When I said Jason wasn't playing great You said but did he stay though And look what it happens Jack, you're cutting me off I can't listen to you You cut me, okay so if you shoot a jumper and it misses

it does not count. Correct. But if you shoot it, Alex, Joanne, and a Riz, a Riz, grandmama, and it goes in, that's a point, right? Correct. Okay, I rest my case.

That might have been your worst arguing ever on this podcast. And Bryce, what happens if you shoot? No, true. I mean, whatever people got to do, that might be better for them, but I'm just saying if you're a real hooper, then that's going to be pretty automatic.

So my question, though, if you are real Hooper, you get points, right? Yes. So you can't beat the Joanne, Alex, and Riz, grandmama, and get points and be a Hooper? Why are you kissing every time you shoot an underhanded shot? Well, I think with in this situation, so this might be better for them in the situation,

but if you're a real hooper, your jumper's going to be nice enough where you're going to make more shots. Okay, Jack. Because if I stepped out there, you better believe three for three challenges only. Okay, Jack, who's your favorite basketball team?

The Thunder. Who's my favorite basketball team? The Sixers, right? Vijay Edge. No. The Hornets, the Hornets. The Hornets. Thank you. So if the Hornets are playing the Thunder

and we're in overtime, the Thunder has the last possession of the ball, and who's your franchise player? Shea, Gildes, Alexander. If Gildes, Alexander has the ball and it's three seconds left. You know what it is. And he just, if he just gets the Riz guy, Joanne, and Alex, grab my mom, and just, and gets a three, is the crowd not going to go crazy?

So, you know why that's never happened ever? because you're going to get blocked because someone's playing defense. I mean, two nights ago, he sent it to OT, and he made a shot to tie the game. Do you know how he shot it? Not like Grandma, Ma.

It's not Grandma Ma. It's Rich, Jawai, Alex, Grandma, Ma. But maybe there's something, I will say, maybe there's something different out there. They were kind of far away. and obviously they were probably their legs were probably super tired so maybe the best way to just get it up there

is just because this is a lot of legs you need and if your legs are dead it could be tough. All I'm saying is me and Wendell will be out there. Splash, but yeah. All right. Okay.

This was a very interesting challenge. I thought it was a very fun one and I have to go on record. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Oh. Whoa.

You know, you could get a sound effect for that. Okay. Babeba Doris Challenge, when the Yellow Tribe was losing. And I said, I don't know. happening over here, uh, my fountains started running. The britches started to get a little wet when Jouan said a roar. I said, oh, wait, wait. I said, is he going to do it again? Chihuahua said a

and the question said a and no Savannah that's not show water this time I said oh not Chihuahue got a little dog in them and I said oh listen I was

I had to excuse myself to the ladies room in KC because oh, okay, okay, I said, look, like, I was here for Joanne pulling the team together. I also, during that time, as I was in the path for just trying to get my, britchers together. I said, did we discover Nate's kryptonite because Nate was

gassed at the sandbags. MC was, she had the crate on her back. And then when they got a little to the front, Jeff said, hey, you're four millimeters early. And Riz guy said, okay, we got to move it back. Nate says, shut up.

And so I only say that to say, because I feel like, why would they show us that? Why would they give us that clip, right? And so it's like, are we about to see maybe like the pressure? Like, are we about to see Nate Snap? But I said that to say where it's like, I almost would be interested. Like, is Nate about to crack the wit?

I don't know. But I just thought that was interesting that they would show that. Yeah, interesting to say. Yeah. Yeah. it was a rare moment of like non-composure from Nate a little bit but sometimes in the heat of a challenge it's like that'll happen that'll happen yeah it was a fun challenge it is interesting we now we've got a few non-puzzle ending challenges in a row which I like I just I kind of wish they sprinkle them in between all those puzzles you know because we talked about this before where with the puzzles it's sort of like the tribe with the best puzzlers is going to win those can't consistently like you you don't just all of a sudden get better at puzzles you know it's kind of now and so that's i feel like why the blue tribe lost so much but if they had sprinkled in like this challenge

i know i'll make at home as agreeing with you yeah if they had sprinkled this and then maybe alex or or someone else is is is hitting some shot you know i think it it helps to diversify the challenges a little bit so i'm glad that it's happening now but i i think maybe mix them up Keep them different so that if it's the same thing every time in a row, usually the same team is going to just lose it. You know, so. Also, just honorable mention to Christina who sat out this challenge, but she might have sat out, but baby.

She was locked into looking for something. Christina's name might not be Christina Incognito Mills, but it don't matter because Christina said, let me trust me. He went from reaching to like. I love Christina and I love just like, not even how like, I don't want to say extra, but just like I feel like that is Christina's personality where I feel like if I were doing that exact same thing in my mind, I would feel like I'm not even doing that much, right?

But like I liked how she started out like, okay, ain't nobody looking. But then all of a sudden Christina just was a one mother, money, Mata, mama, mada, ma'ma mada, ma'ma buggerna, hey, Margarita, aye. Yes. She did the macarena. She did to that chair. But the other component of this challenge, the reward with the chickens, I always feel like chickens lead to some compelling moments because people debating, like, the morality of it.

chickens obviously being live preachers can kind of create their own moments where they're like running around or someone wants to free the chickens whatever it may be would you guys think of this chicken

what's up you know how I feel about the chickens though I don't but that's why I was going to ask how do you feel about the chicken reward and everything that transpired at the beach with them after I'm not a fan of the chickens

because historically chickens any season that they're on last longer on the season than I did on Cagion so I'm not fan of the chickens yeah

I did you guys win chickens on Coganyar on Bryce right after I left that was Bryce's main alliance was just talking to as it is yes they got it after I left again another funny and hilarious smote her Christina

Christina's life I don't want to kill them but we're going to eat them and she's like I don't know how to clean them I don't know how to kill them but I do know I want them rotissory and I do know how to eat them okay like just the way

Christina just shows up as herself is hilarious and again we see Alex stepping up where Alex is like I live in D.C. I'm not good at puzzles I shoot like grandmamma and I live in the high rice, but if you need somebody to choke a chicken,

whoa, I could choke a chicken. And again, I loved how everybody was like, oh, no, we don't really want to, but you know, we got to do it. Baby, after that chicken was cooked and rotisserie, they all were sitting there like, Shannon prayed over and this out, okay. I also thought it was funny. Obviously, a lot of people didn't want to do it, and someone had a confess. where they're like, and we just had the two that we figured might be able to do it,

step up, and then it's the two guys, but then it's just like Stephen and Alex. You can see them just like kind of, I don't know exactly what we're supposed to do. You can tell they just kind of fell into it, which was funny for me. But again, kudos for them for cooking it because I hate when they be like, no, don't kill it. Let's get the egg. no cook one of them bad boys well then they killed the rooster too which you know those don't lay eggs so you don't really it's the it's the male roost it's a male so what does the rooster do it uh fertilizes the female chickens

how would do that sex let me sit you down right okay Yeah, the rooster, the britches get, yeah. That's how eggs get made, Bryce. Oh. Well, I mean, I guess hens lay eggs either way, but they only have chicks in them if they're fertilized by a rooster. Oh, look at Jackery.

Come on, University of Chicago. Yeah. Well, I don't think that's necessarily a higher education thing, but. That was the conversation, Ben set you down ahead. Yeah. Well, not, I don't know if Ben did it. Christine? It might have just been some word of mouth or something.

From the kids at school? The birds, the bees, and the chickens. Did you have that class in school, though? Yeah. Yeah, it wasn't chicken specific, but you connect the dots a little bit. Did you have that class of school, Wendell? Which class, the birds and the bees? I believe they call it sex education.

Were they teaching that in the? 60s? Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Right. So I know you're going to say laughing. No, no, no.

It's like squid game. Sorry, Wendell. Did you wait? Did y'all have calculators? Or did you have Aspraticuses?

Adipacuses. I'm surprised you, yeah, you got that. Is it adipat? That's not adipatous. Abacus, I think. Abacus. Do you know what an abacus is, Wendell?

That's how he learned. We only had a rock and some coal. Bryce, you're going to have to change your biggest. This is, someone in a bad neighborhood is going to be listening to this podcast. okay um i do sorry but before we move on i always the chickens always interest me because honestly like envisioning myself out there i don't know like i would be torn you know i wouldn't i would not enjoy the act of killing a chicken but obviously you're hungry xyz like you might have to be the one to do it so i always wonder i'm like this is this would be tough like and would i be able to do it

would I not I would be able to do it but I also thought like I'm not choking the chicken I'm going to get someone to hold it down and I'll take the machete and you'll cut someone's hand off yeah that's possible

I'm not mad at that idea though hold it by then grab its head and just ring its neck that yeah that just sounds you're not doing that window so don't even describe it like that you got to do that's the country some of y'all some of y'all haven't been on a farm and it shows yeah

some of us haven't been on a farm in the show I said and it shows but now you know do we want to move on pass the challenge past the reward and get into this pre-tribal for the discussion

absolutely and again Savannah the shark I thought was out and we clearly know where Savannah wants to go but I thought it was like very interesting how Savannah is like when she's talking to Nate and in her confessional she's like

oh I'm so happy that Nate is kind of coming to me in this way so I don't have to take the lead I think that's again just shows her survivor maturity because me I'm thinking and I'm in control roll, let me just

blurt out what needs to happen, right? But her having that where will fall to be like, I don't need to exude my power, right? Like, I can fall in line. Like, again, just super, super smart. She's a really good survivor player. And it'll be interesting to see if she was not on this dominating tribe.

Like, I would love to see her play in a different position. She's kind of playing from a power position. We've seen people play like that before, but it seems like she's also making really good moves while doing it. She's not abusing her power in that power position, though. I mean, except for her stance on Jawan. Like, I just feel like, because she's like, she's willing to get rid of him willing.

I'm like, yo, it's like they have an embarrassment of riches. Like, Homeboy is riding with y'all. Like, that's why I bring up Seifu. I feel like on 45, it was the same thing with Seafood, where they cut seafood. And I remember thinking like, what has he done to be disloyal other than running around in the woods?

No, it's a good comparison. Yeah. Well, I also think that in while that, I really think this was a case of the editors kind of trying to make something out of nothing because we, even the way the votes go, we see Jason vote for Rizzo. So it doesn't really seem like this Jawan plan ever actually had any traction.

But I think in order to make the episode a little more compelling, they had to create that narrative. Because my guess of what happens, Jason was more, you know, believe more in what Jowan was saying. And then maybe everyone else kind of just told him what he wanted to hear like, oh, we can do Rizzo or whatever. But there was probably just never that much there. I mean, maybe that conversation happened with Nate and Savannah. But I feel like those conversations can happen a lot and not actually have any. wait to them um so in hindsight i don't i don't think it was much of a much of a you know they wanted jason to not play a shot in the dark so maybe they gave him a little bit more um like leeway or credit

but um yeah it seemed like it was pretty cut and dry and it did it did spark the debate of like you know what is the actual move but i was very adamantly being like you got to just take out jason i think is the right move like why Even if you're trying to send a message to Heena that you're like willing to play ball, you know, what if they aren't, right? So you might as well get yourself like a solid numbers advantage going into a looming merge. And I think that, you know, that's, I think they thought the exact same thing and that's what they did. There is a lot of discourse online about like, oh, 49's boring and this was a chance for something to happen.

But I also feel like, not that it's boring, but they're like, oh, this was a chance for, like, you know, not for them to pick off a Jason, but I also feel like people don't want to have this conversation, but sometimes good survivor is boring. Sometimes he, like, and I'm with it, right?

Like, I'm like, I wish Jason could have worked out something, but like, realistically, like, if he were to get Joanne, who else, who they're going to turn on? It kind of like, again, it's just the way the cookie crumbles. And I think that everyone, that is wanting more,

I think that when you see good survivor moves that are boring sometimes lets you kind of set the stage for, it can't stay this way forever. And so for me, it kind of like, what's the appetite a little bit that like the numbers are going to dwindle soon because what else was there a move

for Jason to play a shot in the dark? You know, and players that are trying to win the game, are trying to win the game before they're trying to make a big move or make good TV for you to watch. Players are trying to win the game first. So it's like, my season can be boring.

A lot of people say Ghost Island is boring. I wasn't trying to make good TV for y'all. I was trying to win the game. Were you trying to win the game on winners at war yes and I made it past the merge

how far past the merge how far past the merge did you make it we have to teach you how to use these damn sound effects go ahead

send another one my way no Give it to me. I'm just someone getting smacked. This does tie back it. Now, I mean, Jason got dealt a bad hand with this swap. Like, no, there's no doubt about it. But it does kind of tie back into the conversation we had last week

of the way that Jason played the vote last week, you know, impacted. the next vote where I don't think that anyone was really willing to work with Jason. I mean, the one who was the most willing to maybe work with Jason was Joanne, and Joanne didn't have like the agency to really, or the desire even to like really make anything happen. Do we think looking back to last week that Jason could have done things different to maybe give himself a better chance or was he just like 100% doomed here? Can I ask you, can I double entendre?

you. Uh-oh. If Jason goes home last week and Matt is still here, do we believe it's more options for Matt or do we believe that they just were doomed? More so the latter. I mean, Matt went home. I get what you're saying, the hypothetical, but Matt went home for a reason. Like, they wanted to work with Matt less than with Jason.

So Matt somehow staying, I mean, obviously things would have to be a little bit. bit different but Matt like Matt was approached it I think even worse than Jason did ultimately so that's why he went home earlier so even if he stuck around for some reason I think the same logic that they used to vote him out last week still applies they were in a really tough spot is in you not only like the swap numbers but just the overall game numbers like it was just the smart move um and I think a lot of great players could have been in Jason's position still gone home but I do it really seemed like he had no options and I wonder if there's a world where he could have created a couple possibilities you know what I mean or even like done something to bluff some sort of idol

or something like that I don't know what are your backs against the wall like that when when Savannah's like telling you how to pitch yourself to other people you know you're probably and and you're like oh I didn't think about that I'll go do that you know you're kind of in a bad spot, you know what I mean? To me, it's like Jason's strong suit was these puzzles. He's really good at these puzzles. And I guess

one of his weaker suits were like the scramble game. Like, you know, yo, you're back against the wall. Now you've got to get shifty out there. And yeah, he was taking the Savannah line and running with that every which way.

And that wasn't necessarily doing it. It's tough too because for Jason like the best person to target I mean we see him target Rizzo but probably the person who gives him the best chance is Jawan but Jawan's also the one he's connected with the most so it's just like you're kind of damned if you do and damned if you don't like you know in his shoes you would be like oh who can I maybe pull

it's Jawan so you've got to try something else but in reality yeah you've got to like target Jawan but then you're targeting the person that you're actually the closest with and it's just like even if you get Jolon what else you know there's just not a lot of options so yeah I don't know tough kind of

that's why the episode ultimately kind of straightforward but like you said early on Bryce I think there's a lot of seeds being planted that will make things interesting as we go but overall the pre-merge has been pretty boring but I think we're at least setting up for some interesting dynamics with like a Savannah

versus Jolana a sage versus Shannon and all that so yeah definitely I think the seeds have been planted and Survivor is going to be watering them potentially with that tribe swap that will happen

Yeah. Can we talk about that a little bit? Let's talk about it. Apparently it's I didn't even, I don't know if they was in the preview or not so maybe a spoiler alert but You said a spoiler? Well, it's been talked about so it seems like it's out like it probably was in the preview but I wasn't

watching it. You know, know, Jack Atkins do not like or do spoil. This isn't like a spoiler, spoiler. This is just the tribe swap discussion, but it seems like it's going to be three tribes of four, which is kind of interesting to me. And then also you think about, usually we've had like

Mergatory at like 13. Now we're swapping at 12. Merge isn't going to be to at least like 11. I wouldn't be surprised if they got rid of the mergerary altogether and maybe the merge is more standard. So I do have high hopes that I think the swap could be really interesting. You know, at this point six people in the game half the half the people in the game

have not been to one tribal yet it's crazy Bob could change that up and then really shift the dynamics a little bit more some intertrib mingling before we get to this merge so I do I am very optimistic for the next few episodes

and historically I feel like a lot of the best merge episodes are when they merge at 11 because I think having an odd number is important 11 is a little bit more manageable than like a 13 you think about the Kagayan merge one of the best episodes in Survivor history. Price wasn't there for it.

But it would have been even better if Price was there, but yeah, I'm curious to see what happens. How do you guys feel about this late swap into like three times of four? Wendy'sy? I like it. I want to see things mix up a little bit.

If it means no mergatory, I'm here for it, Because you know how I feel about the merger story. Stop. If we on the same beach, we are merged. If you are on top of me, we are merged. Whoa. Okay. Stop with this dilly dally it.

But I'm excited. I think definitely season 49 is about to get some fire underneath it. And we are about to like, you know, start seeing what's happening. And you can be sure. to stay locked in to Survivor News because we'll be back next week covering episode 6. We thank you so much for watching

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