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Episode Date: October 25, 2024

The baby boys are back with another Survivor 47 recap! Hosts @BriceIzyah, @WendellHolland, and @JackAtkins21 break down Episode 6 the post-merge game heats up as immunity is on the line for one, while the rest scramble to avoid the vote. Key alliances face tension, and rivalries intensify as players navigate shifting dynamics. Tune in for all the strategy, blindsides, and drama in this action-packed episode!

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We're back with your Survivor News coverage of Survivor Season 47, Episode 6. We are back. The baby boys are here. Join the winner of Ghost Island and this is the merge episode. So the first merge boot of Winners at War, Wendy Z. Holland. We didn't see a merge boot last night. That is true. But I'm doing good. Thank you.

We have the Jackery of the atkins you might know him from circle season two or the floor is lava or you might see him getting these ads on the instagram okay you better get you a little sippy cup the baby boy jack atkins what's popping what's popping uh you also you know not to nothing too, you might also know me from this week's episode of Let's Make a Deal. Oh. Paramount Plus. Oh. I haven't really been plugging that because I don't want to look,

I don't know if that's really the next best move in my reality TV career. But you know I had to go pay my rent, so I had to hop on there and make a deal with Wayne Brady. Listen, Jack, that's three shows under your belt. You trying to come from Windows chain, okay? You three more, three more,

you're going to have more shows than Windows. Not three more, but... I'm going to end up on like... We're going downhill, so... You want to do the People's Court? I might end up on like, we're going downhill. You want to do the people's court? I might end up on the people's court. I might end up on like Dr. Phil or something. Jack, when does that air?

It came out this week. Oh. Yeah. It's streaming now. Okay. What is it, deal or no deal? Let's make a deal. Let's make a deal. Okay. We're going to have to check that out tonight after this episode, but we are here. Uh, the

baby boys just landed back from Nashville. Shout out to Nashville. Nashville did its thing. That was my first time in Nashville. And you know, there are cities that I go to Wendy Z and Jack that it's like New York not for me LA not for me Dallas might be for me Tennessee Nashville Tennessee it might be for me okay Nashville maybe I'm a little ignorant I don't know why I didn't realize Nashville is a city. Like a city city, like the vibes were immaculate. The people were very friendly. The weather was nice. The food was good.

The survivors that came out were amazing. The purple pants posse, all of the amazing people that came out at East Beer Works in Nashville. East Nashville Beer Works. East Nashville, Bill. East Nashville Beer Works. Shout out to y'all. Jack, we were like outside. We were like, it was giving like backyard vibes with the lights, big TV.

We had Kevin from Big Brother. We had Riley. We had America. We had Riley. We had America. We had Corey. We had cute. Listen. Biggie, we had Jordan, the killer, no deal island. We had Michael from the Traders. Wow. Let me tell you about

Q, Jack. So the parking lot wasn't that big. So Wendell rented a truck. Wendell said he was in Nashville. He wanted to feel like... So Wendell had... F-150.

F-150, okay? We found parking, but we had to cross the street. Q and his Q skirt decides that his next career venture is a crossing guard. He crossed everyone to get across the street. Bro.

One car was about to go. He said, big mistake. Wait. Busy road too. He stopped traffic. I'm like, Q? But listen, did the car stop? Yeah, it was like four brothers walking across the street in Tennessee.

I'm like, you know what? Be careful, Q. Yeah, but Nashville was something special. And that is our fourth stop on our 10-stop city of the BWP Tour 47. The Baby Boys are headed to Nashville next week. We've got some special... New Orleans. Listen, I'm still on Nashville time. We're headed to New Nashville next week. We've got some special... New Orleans. Listen, I'm still on Nashville time.

We're headed to New Orleans next week. Tickets are available. We've got some special friends coming. And I'm hearing this is going to be a very special episode. You know, have we ever podcasted live, Wendell? We never have. And I think we want to try it this time with our good, good friend, Phil, from the Survivor Specialist. He said he's coming by, and we're going to try,

we're going to try to keep our numbers cozy and do somewhat of a live pod. We're going to see how that works. Yeah, so space is limited. We're going for an intimate setting, because you know, I ain't never podcast live after an episode like this before, so we're going to keep the vibes limited and spacious, but if you want to come join us, we'll be in New Orleans next week. The tickets are available in the BWP Instagram or Twitter, but that's not it, Jackery. After that, we're headed to Chicago. From Chicago, the Baby Boys will be in our hometown of Philadelphia on the week of Thanksgiving. So come get your gobble gobble with the Baby Boys. And that's not it.

From there, we're going to Boston. From Boston, we go into Washington, D.C. Now, Wendy, Boston normally shows out for us. But I think Washington, D.C. said Boston, we gotta show y'all something because Boston and Washington, D.C. and Philadelphia are shaping up to be epic, epic, epic, epic.

And if you've never been, come on. And I believe the tickets are available. We are headed to New York for the season finale. We're headed back to Barry Park in Brooklawn. So tickets are available. The BWP Tour 47 continues.

Don't have no FOMO. Click the link now and get your ticket. Shout out to Jimmy G from the Purple Pants Posse that was in the building last night. Nashville was so much fun, Jack. Can I say a few things? Hold on. Wait, Jack. Can I say a few things? Hold on. Wait, wait. Wait, before you start, Jack, our live pod is not going to be Survivor News if you have anything to do with that.

It's not Survivor News. Spring break. It's a little 20-minute drop with Phil, but go ahead. First and foremost, I wanted to say it's crazy to think you've only done four out of the ten stops. Because from my perspective and being at one, I'm like, it's crazy to think you've only done four out of the ten stops, because from my perspective and being at one, I'm like, you guys already hit New York. You hit Dallas. You hit L.A. You hit

Nashville. That's like a season's worth of parties. So I'm like, the fact you got six more coming up, if you haven't been to one yet, you better make sure you get your tail on down to a Bryce and Wendt. But, Wendell, you did touch. Look one yet, you better make sure you get your tail on down to a Bryce and Wendt. But, Wendell, you did touch. Look, Phil, you know, I like the Survivor Specialist.

And I'm going to let you have it. I'm going to make it. I'm going to make it this one. I'm going to let you have your 20 minutes. But, Phil, if you try to replace me, I'll see you in the ring. Oh. place me. I'll see you in the ring. Oh, well, Jack, I don't, we see how that turned around.

I was against Brett, so Brett, I won't see you in the ring again. Jack, Wendell and I watched that together. I couldn't watch it, but listen, yeah, it's only been four stops, Jack, but it feels like a hundred, and I am happy to report, you know, I keep an honest open here. Wendizzi and I haven't fought on any of these tours.

We're doing great. However, we did run into a little bump in the airport this morning. What? It wasn't my fault, you know. You know what, Jack? I'm checking in. I'm checking into my flight. First of all, I'm going to preface this by saying y'all know I'm cheap.

Okay? So I'm checking into the flight. Fortunately, I got the status, so I go to the preferred lane, you know. And I have three bags. And my first two are free. But the third one will be $150 for the bag on American. And so you were like, I'm guessing you were like, Bryce, you want to? But I got a little status too, Jack.

Okay. My first bag is free. So I'm at the front of the line. And it's one of these rolly bags that I'm at the front of the line. And it's one of these rolly bags that I have brought it on the plane before in airports that aren't as strict. But anyway, it's a little bigger than you're supposed to bring and put above, right? So the lady that's checking me in, she's like, no, that's too big. And I'm like, well, I brought it here on up top. So why can't I? She's like, no, it's too big. You can't. I'm like, all right I brought it here on up top. So why can't I?

She's like, no, it's too big. You can't. I'm like, all right, fine. Well, my brother's on his way. We'll give him the bag. He'll check it. And then I see her typing in her little computer. And I walk away.

Important to remember. So I come. No, no, no. So I get in the TSA pre-line. And I go through that. And when I'm putting it through a conveyor belt, these fools have plastic bins that you have to put every bag in. It doesn't fit in the bin. He's like, no, this is too big. trying to get through with it. At that point, I hit Bryce like, yo, you here? What's up? They're playing games. Bryce is like, I'm here.

So I give Bryce the bag and I turn and leave. Okay. You hear this? Jack, he rushed me out to Uber. I come find him. I'm like, hey, all right. I'm like, I'll go check the bag. I'll go check the bag.

Jack, I turn around window is nowhere to be found because Jack I'm saying you knew they were looking they had their eyes on you she had her eye on me and you know Bryce has to check it all and do all that stuff

and I'm trying to go you know I turned around he was gone Jack so listen what I do I put my headphones on, play the episode of Survivor, and I go sit at the gate. He's skipping an important detail, Jack. I'm at Hattie B's Hot Chicken in the airport. I order extra chicken. I'm like, yo, Bryce, I'm at the chicken spot in the airport.

I'm letting him know where I am so that when he gets through, he can come have a seat with me. I looked around for Hattie B's. I didn't see it. Then that was it. Jack, no. All he did was gave it a heart. The story gets even more interesting.

Okay. Because I walked to my terminal and I'm like, yo, Perp, where you at? Perp, where you at? Per to my terminal and I'm like, yo, Perp, where you at? Perp's like, I'm in the terminal. I'm like, I'm looking around. Where are you? I'm in the terminal. I'm like, it's terminal 16. He's like, oh, I'm at terminal

13. I'm just, I'm in the terminal. Who wants to sit with all of them people? So anyway, they call group two. I'll start the board. As I'm boarding, Wendell's off to the side with a security guard and a dog in my shoe. First of all, Jack, sometimes in situations, I get nervous. And so maybe I'm not the friend to call for help because I see the dog and the security guard and Wendell. I scan my boarding pass and I say,

you good? Jack, it wasn't that serious. I look at my phone to get my ticket and the ticket is no longer on my phone. I'm like, I'm supposed to board with group three and I'm like, I don't even have my ticket, my man. He said, you gotta go

talk to her. So I'm talking to the ticketing agent. There's no dog. And she's like, where's your bag? I'm like, what are you talking about? She's like, I'm like, my backpack, I got it. She's like, no, no, no. Where is, where's your rolly bag? I'm like, my brother checked it in. I early he arrived after me the lady was giving me a hard time i gave it to him he checked it she's like are you sure you're traveling with someone she's just grilling me and asking me all these questions and then i see bryce in line i'm like there he is that's my brother i was like i don't know't know. Is Bryce pretending not to know you or something? Bryce is like, you good?

All right. I don't know this man. I don't know this man, sir. Then the story gets even more pettier, Jack. I get off the plane. I wait for Wendell. He just walked by me. I didn't even see him.

I'm waiting. I'm like, where? I'm like, oh, my God. Are they giving him a hard time on the plane? I'm literally waiting until the terminal until I hear we're getting ready to start boarding. I'm like, this MF-er. So I get down. So the bag is claimed. I see Wendell getting all his bags. I see my bag still, the only bag on the conveyor, just going around.

And I see Wendell walk out the door. I see my bag still, the only bag on the conveyor, just going around. And I see Wendell walk out the door. I said, you know what? Jack, I got off the plane. Bryce was ahead of me on the plane. I got off the plane. I'm walking to baggage. I see Bryce nowhere to be found. So him waiting by the bathroom is either one,

him in the bathroom, blowing things up. We know how that goes. Okay? We know how after a flight Bryce will, you know, or two, hiding somewhere. I didn't see him, so I walked to baggage. Just like he walked and didn't

communicate with me. I get my bags and leave. The story gets deeper, though, Jackery. Tip for tag. The story gets even deeper. Wow. I'm waiting at baggage claim. That's a lie. That's a lie. Jack, I'm going down the escalator. I see

Wendell with his bags rolling out the door. Listen, I'm waiting at baggage claim and the bags start coming out. I don't see Bryce anywhere in sight. But what I do see is Bryce's bag, one of the first bags to come off. I take it off the conveyor belt.

Then a couple minutes later, all three of my bags come off. I take all three of them. I already called my Uber. I don't see Bryce. I put his bag back on the conveyor belt. You deserve that. You guys Ubered separately?

He wasn't communicating with me. I didn't know where he was. I'm going to Armore. I feel like I'm your guys' parent. I'm trying to settle this beat. I'm going to Armore. He's going to North Philly. I'm going to Chestnut Hill.

Anyway, sorry, because people in the comments, I know what they're saying. Someone in their YouTube comments is going to be like, the recap starts at 15.13. Which is appreciated, honestly. No, listen, shout out to you. But listen, we got a lot to get through

because this episode was crazy. And I don't know if I'll go on record. I'll go on record right now go on the record season 47 I will say confidently

thus far is the Kageyan of the new heiress whoa like I mean as I was watching last night I'm like they've got characters on characters on characters. Like, the way that things move, the way that things, like, I'm loving season 47.

And you know how I feel about fall season. So I'm going to go on record that it's giving this season is the Caggiana, the new era. Wait, how do you feel about fall seasons? I don't love them. I think spring seasons are superior. Oh. Bryce, the only thing I'll say is, when we talk about characters, we just came off of 46.

And that had characters. True. Now, this one, like, that had a cast. You look at them and you know their characters. This one was like sleepers. I look at them and you know their characters this one was like sleepers i look at the cast i'm like all right they cool they regular but in the game they are these characters yeah and they're not scared to play and they're like and even like i know i'm jumping all over the place but for me carolyn when carolyn went to Sue last night, it was like, girl, you good.

Sue was like, baby, what you talking about? Don't worry. I don't know why I thought that was like so hilarious. Who? Caroline. It was funny. Caroline was like, listen, stay a little bit on to you But I got you

And mind you I love Sue Sue was like what They on the point What are they on Sue thought Caroline knew she was 58 Hey Hey Saul believed her, okay?

Saul said, I'm 41. Okay, we look good. We look good. And she does look good, okay? Yeah. Honestly, yeah. Quick shout out to Caroline. That's a great ally.

She found out you were lying about having an idol, and she's like, I'm proud of you. Thank you. You're the best ally I could ask for. What's another response to that? Do you call them out? Do you keep it on the tuck? And then she's worried about you. I think that might be the perfect answer. Like, yo, I see you, but I got you. But we know there'll be people out there who would figure that out and be like damn Sue didn't tell me about her idol I gotta go tell people she has an idol

I don't trust Sue anymore that's wrong that's one way to do it or it's the wrong way to do it I also just felt like Caroline she had she was proud like you could see it like she was proud. Like you could see it.

Like she was like, Sue got it. Yeah. Like I, there, there's something infectious about Caroline. And I don't think that we've seen her story develop yet, but I like her a lot. Agreed. We kind of just, yeah, we slowly just got into the episode yeah it was uh i was still caught up on your kage on comparison but i'm not do you not agree okay look kage on is is in a category of its own for me and uh you know but as far as the

era goes this this has been a really good season so far. So I'm not mad at that comparison. What I, what I did say, I love this episode too. And what stood out is, you know, that kind of brought back the classic merge, which that for me was a big,

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Invest with RBC today. Something that confused me last night that I think, you know, I always like to give people their props. When somebody does something, I'm like, ooh, they ate. And I really feel like Jeff thought he was eating with this one. And we're going to do the immunity challenge. We're going to break it

into two parts. And from the two parts, one person will only be safe. Everybody's like, oh my God! Isn't that how it normally goes? Somebody tell me what's different here.

I get it. They normally do it in smaller groups, but during individual immunity challenges, this ain't the challenge. It's emergatory, and usually they have six people safe or something like that. That's that new era. That's them young kids. I'm from an era when you

merge, only one person's safe. But the way that he was bringing it up was like, oh, we shaking the tables. You not going to, Jack, if you win, you the only person safe.

Bryce, I totally agree with you you i think the way that we need you know jeff has a lot of producing powers on this show you know he loves the twits and he he loves to get rid of some of our classic favorite things like this normal merge i think the way that we we need to get him to bring back our favorite classics like this is you have to repackage them as a new twist. So, Jeff, what if instead of three tribes, we

started with two? And you'd be like, oh my god! And only one wins immunity? And then, bam. So, I agree with you, but I'm like like as long as we get what we want jeff could think of it as whatever twist he wants but it's this is what he needed so did y'all any of you have that same thought or y'all were like oh like because i i was maybe i'm a little slow but i was trying to figure out like well well what's different like i i didn't get it but yeah it

was great um you know how i feel about it what's up jeff hey jeff um no you're totally right it's in the moment it's like he's introducing it like this big twist and it's like this is just how the merge usually works but i was not like i said i was not upset because i was like thank this is so much better so however jeff wants to say it cool with me oh then i had another issue can i can i just got one more grievance i'd like to as many grievances as you got you got the school you saying something about the schoolyard pick? No. Go on. I'm talking about the Merge appetizers. Jack,

that wasn't a feast. The appetizers. Because let me just tell you, first of all, there's three things in Survivor I love, and I never wanted to win Survivor, but I wanted to make the Merge. I wanted to have the Merge feast, and depending on the era,

day 38 or day 25, I want to be sitting around the fire and I want to like be scraping bacon. Like those are the things that I wanted. Bitch, I know you ain't bringing out a charcuterie, but where is the rest of the food? Like I'm confused. I don't want no cheese and a piece of meat.

Whoa. Maybe a piece of meat, but I felt a little raw, and I know Sam was out there loving it, okay? But I'm going to need a little bit more than a block of cheese and some pepperoni for my merge feast.

What else did they have? Wine? and some pepperoni for my merge feast. What else did they have? Wine? Okay. Now also, Teenie is my spirit animal, okay? Because you can have that cheese. Teenie was getting lit and I ain't mad. That's just how I

would be. I'm just glad it didn't sink her game like Uncle Carl because Uncle Carl. Your boy got lit. Well, hey, if Sam is asking for charcuterie all season, hey, put it on the table. They cutting corners.

Back at base camp, they had that on the table. They was like, yeah, Jeff, you want to get them to the pizza? I was like, go ahead. But would you have been happy, Jack, with a piece of cheese? I missed kind of the full extent of the meal, but so the most substantial thing was just charcuterie

and they had some fruit and some wine. Nah, and they had a pineapple. Where are the little pickles? Where are the little, like, you know, if it's going to be a charcuterie board, where's the jam? Where's the crackers? Give me a charcuterie. going to be a charcuterie board, where's the jam? Where's the crackers? Like, give me a charcuterie. They gave you a charcuterie.

They didn't give you the charcuterie. They gave you the charcuterie. Bryce, what did you think about the pineapples? I mean, I like the pineapples. They was cool. Are you a pineapple kind of guy? If Sam is, I am. Are you the kind of guy that...

Upside down. Oh! Jack, do you know about this? The pineapples? Yeah. If you're talking about what I think you're talking about, yeah. You know about the upside down pineapple? Upside down pineapple.

You got Google on your phone real quick? Is that like a dessert? Yes. I think I know about... Yeah. No, that's like a pineapple upside down cake. It's a dessert. It's a weird thing on cruises, Jack. Oh, yes, yes, yes,

yes, yes, yes. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. I also thought you meant eating pineapple to affect the flavor. Yeah, no. Like a palate cleanser?

No, it makes things taste different, they say. Certain things during lovemaking. Wow, Jackery. Bryce. Oh. Wow, Jackery. Bryce. Oh.

Anyway, we've taken a turn. Oh, Jack. I was trying to describe that as PG as possible. Does it work, Jack? I haven't tasted it. Bryce, what does an upside down pineapple mean? It means your door is open. Okay.

So they say, well, I mean, they say on cruise ships that, you know, people, they do this decorating thing on their doors. And if you turn the pineapple upside down, then I believe it means that you're a swinger, like you're open to I'ma leave the door open. I'ma open. On the Survivor Cruise,

do we think there'll be any pineapples on there? Oh, wow. There is a Survivor Cruise coming up. There's a Circle cruise, too. I didn't get an invite. There's a Challenge cruise, too.

I feel like they're all the same cruise. It's all the same. We're not doing this. I was going to say, this might be on the record or off the record Apparently Apparently The host of one of our favorite shows Maybe used to host some parties

Where there might be some upside down pineapples Wait what host are you talking about? The one you think I'm talking about. Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. We're not doing that to him. Thank you. Goodbye, Jack. We're not doing that to him.

Ah, ah, Jack. That's cool. Nah, we didn't know. Maybe we edit that out, but that's what I've heard. Word on the street. I don't even want to elaborate because... No, Diddy.

I don't even... It's consenting adults. No, no, no, no, no. We're not doing that. Now you guys are knocking some adults that are... Listen, I and they're all consenting adults. We don't take shame over here, Jackery,

but this is a family podcast. Bryce, what are you doing? Bryce? Where did you get that pineapple from? I've been on a cruise or two before in my day. Oh, my gosh. What did you think about this advantage, this secret advantage that's at the camp and everyone to go look for?

Like, what were your thoughts on that? I thought, again, a fun play on different things. I don't always love the ready, set, go. And everybody just kind of like go off. But I thought that was an interesting little like gem to add in. I like it. Yeah, I thought it was interesting

how so many people were just not really interested in finding it. Like they were like, okay, that's cool, but like I kind of want to get to know everybody. Like let's just go sit in the shelter. And the captain of that, or someone that I saw leading the charge

was Andy. And in my opinion, Andy has had a rough couple of days, but Andy is finding his stride, and it's clear watching Andy's confessionals and seeing how well thought out. Andy's very methodical, so I'm not mad at the way Andy was like I'm gonna sit here because you know Andy get like me he might find something get a little nervous like you know his best bet was to sit in

the camp and talk to everybody and I'm not mad that's like that's currency and so Andy is building his social currency so I am here for baby Andy. Andy has his moments, but then he has his moments when he locks in and can really like articulate a plan or what he's thinking. And I like that kind of a character because you get the laughs, you know, you get some blunders,

but then you also get this guy who is well thought out and locked in. And knows the game. Not so great at challenges. We love you, Andy. It is funny. A lot of times he'll be talking and they'll be giving him, I guess they'll call it the dodo music or whatever,

but he'll be saying stuff that's really insightful. It's like, don't hate on baby Andy. He's kind of spitting some knowledge here. It's like, you know, don't hate on Baby Andy. He's kind of spitting some knowledge here. Here's my other gripe. Now, you know, I love Mama Sue

Tsunami, but girl, why are you just waiting till now to clean the stuff up? Like, I'm like, I'm so confused, Sue. Sue, you had all the time, like, as much downtime as the stuff up. I'm so confused, Sue. Sue, you had all the time. As much downtime as we have, I was a little shocked that Sue just left things

the way that they were. Not even burying the stuff, that's fine, but not even washing the idol. Girl, why are you washing the idol with the well water? Go to the ocean. There's a lot more water over there. That's a good point. I didn't really think about that but i totally agree um yeah and also she she kept the idol

in the tube she founded it right which had more stuff on it more blood just more red juice yeah it's just a bigger just put you just take idol, it's like on your string and just, yeah, why do you need the container? You go wash the container off. It's just more to, I don't know. Right. A question I have for you, Wendell, because Sue said something like when the people were, she knew that the people were coming, she got nervous

and she was like, they go through their bags. Is that something that they do during Merge? They go through people bags. Is that something that they do during merge? They go through people's bags. I've never been. So. I mean, I think that is, that depends on the season and the people you're with.

I wasn't looking through no bags, but I wouldn't have put it past anybody. First thing though, seems crazy to me. You don't pull up on the beach. All right, let's get some bag. Let's see what's going on in there especially you sue also yeah she's washing everything off a lot of just go bury your idol somewhere right people do that you if you're worried about bags and she was worried people would go through her bag but then also like is she washing it off just to put it back in the bag like someone finds your idol and it doesn't have red paint on it they're like oh this is fine all clear over here

it's a clean idol uh y'all want to get to Rome? Because it was too obvious that it wasn't going to be him. Yeah, that was interesting. I do think Rome had the right thought process, right? And we can get to Kyle, too,

because one, first of all, I love Kyle, but watching the episode, I'm like, well, Rome ain't lie though right like so but I also some exaggeration right but I thought he was

having a Gabe moment right where it's like you know it's reminding me of Gabe episode two where Gabe's like I want the people that are on the outs like I thought Rome was going to connect want the people that are on the outs like I thought Rome was going to connect with the people not just go and spill everything that's

where I thought that maybe he went a little wrong if he would have maybe just spent a day building a relationship and then drop these little nuggets I think could have been better but I also well your thoughts on Rome it kind of reminds me a little bit of like

Venus last season where she'd come to people with some facts but didn't put the time in to like build those relationships and now you know if Bryce and me and you had been together the whole pre-merge and then we just met Wendell and he comes to me and he's like Bryce was saying some things about you and this is the first time

I talked to Wendell I'd probably go to you and be like Bryce just so you know like Wendell said some stuff like is that is it true is it not and when that happens with multiple people it's all just gonna get around and it's like even if it's true it's it's obvious it becomes obvious that someone's just trying to like kick up some sand and like create some chaos and you know it's sort of like okay maybe this time they're coming to me with some truth but how do I know I might not tell them something and they're going to go to someone else with it you know so there's a there's a certain level of chaos that you can create before it gets to be too much even if it's helping you in a way. Right. Yeah. You do this. Like you, you don't go so hard doing this so fast. It's just like, all right, do one thing, triangulate one thing, you know,

like, all right, talk to someone and do it and see how that works out. But don't go, don't bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce and share and share and share. Nah, man, like good idea, poor execution because you went too hard with it right now yeah now and to your point bryce it's like some of the things you were saying he was saying were true but some of them were also like really kind of stretching and twisting with kyle's words for example and then it's easier for kyle to like genuinely be like i didn't say that like I said this verbatim and then also you look at Rome who's been really chaotic and you put his word against Kyle who's maybe like the most

honest seeming like southern boy out there people are gonna believe Kyle even if Rome's telling the truth and but it takes two to tango right so I So I also want to analyze Kyle, right? Because it's like in Kyle's situation, is he doing the right thing? Because for me, and I love Kyle and I love his game, but that conversation that he was having with Rome, and again, editing is everything, but it seemed like Rome was probing

and it seemed like Kyle ain't had no problem giving up the information of the information of the information and clearly it's like they clearly were having a moment with Kyle but it just makes me wonder how often or how quickly do you give information up like that but

you want it to be transparent you want to like give in flow but it just seemed like for me I was like well Kyle giving up the whole kitchen sink in the bathroom i saw i agree kyle was giving up too much and i i saw a comment somewhere online and i i generally remember it and i'm curious about your guys's thoughts on it and i think the comment was sort of like this conversation between rome and kyle it seemed like rome was really angling at like some strategy talk right but kyle maybe thought maybe i guess right in survivor nothing's really off the record per se but it sort of seemed like kyle thought this was sort of like an off the record just like assessment of like how things are like it's not like i want to go for this person or I want to do this, but it's like,

oh, I think Tiana has a fair shot to win. I think Sue and Caroline are struggling a little bit. Right, to Kyle, that's not necessarily being like, I need to target this. I guess for both of you guys who have played, is there ever times in the game where you feel like maybe this is like just an off the record chat and it's sort of like a unspoken thing that it's not going to be dispersed or do you think for like a kyle he

has to be like anything i say can and will be used against me in the court of law wendell has played a lot longer than i've played i've played on a very short season uh it was a long season you just were on it for a short amount of time correct so in my opinion to that comment jack there was a ton of off the record conversations however in my opinion those conversations were about food family like what i'm going to do it wasn't like like there was no in my mind. That's also my problem. I talk to that many people. But it was like it wasn't. I just felt like the conversation was about in game.

So it's like I get what you're saying, but I just feel like, yeah, you're talking about the game. If people are doing how they like, there's just no other way, in my opinion, that that can be perceived. But I think Kyle is such a nice guy. Right. And I think Rome took advantage of that. And Jack, to your point, there are kind of like getting to know you conversations or like feeling people out. Hey, how you feel about, you know, I think Rome was, I think it was the perfect storm. Rome is someone that is looking for language to use against you. And, and the fact that Kyle is a nice guy. So like Kyle might be, you know,

just doing the getting to know you stuff, light talk, small talk that he doesn't think Rome will twist and construe otherwise. And Rome is like, gotcha! Gotcha! And Rome spreads it all on the island. So, yeah, I think there's a couple things at play there.

If Rome would have just stopped at Tsunami, he, I mean, because clearly, she ain't saying, like, it was so believable given, like, if he would have just like just drip that to tsunami. Let that sit for a couple of days. That really could have worked out for him. And he already had the sort of evidence that, OK, Kyle has voted against Sue.

Like, that's a good seed to plant. But, yeah, he just did too much. And like you guys said, I mean, i think i guess in the game everything you say can be considered game talk but right kyle i get people perceive him as pretty innocent him being like oh i think bryce is a big threat to win or like i guess maybe it's maybe it's like if bryce if him saying like oh bryce has a good chance to win that doesn't even necessarily mean kyle wants to target bryce that's just him like talking about what he thinks and it's not. And so,

yeah, I guess when Kyle goes to like, when people fact check with Kyle and Kyle's like, I didn't mean like, no, that's not that people are going to believe Kyle. Who's so like mellow and low key over Rome. It was like scrambling all over the place.

Yeah. I also feel like to this conversation, if it's pre-merge and we're two days, three days on the beach, I think that this is sure. But I think mergeatory wherever we're at, I just feel like giving up that type of

information, you can't let your guard down. Now, what about when he went to Tiana? I felt like... Huh? Tiana, but to Tiana? I felt like, huh? Big mistake. Tiana, but in Tiana, like Tiana's facial expressions tell a lot. Like when he was talking to her, she was like.

And those facial expressions also say like. Boy, that's the first thing you're going to say to me like how about hi it gave very much like we doing this right now like who are you sir stand up you make a good point

with that too though because it's like even if people are telling you the truth or whatever i'm like first conversation you have with me i don't need i don't want to hear that it's almost like a real life thing that you hear where it's like someone you don't really know comes up to you he's like yo your friend was like talking shit about you and you're like out at the bar like having a good time you're like i don't it's like what am i supposed to do with that information like i now you just make me feel bad like and yeah a dog that a dog that carry a dog that brings a bone or a dog that carries a bone brings a bone yeah you know what i'm saying like it's something like that um but it's it's also like

sorry what was that a dog that cares go ahead but she yeah so this guy that she'll never talk to pulled up on her talking about somebody who's been on the island with her for 11 days bro we love you. But this is also what I find so interesting, right, where it's like when we say a character like a Rome, or even like a character like a Q, right, like

they're dangerous players, right, because it's like you want to keep them around for this very reason, right, because it's like Rome's going to Rome, and yeah, you keep him around until he roams and then this happens but the problem is if Rome gets too far then it's like but it just it just really was the perfect storm for Rome because I feel like when you have a character like Rome whose ego is like the size of Antarctica.

Like they say, don't ever get too comfortable in survival, right? Like in my opinion, this plan was formed from somebody that was extremely too comfortable and thought that they like just had outsmarted everybody. Yeah. And yeah, I remember what I want to say

with my last point too is like not only is rome going to tiana with this and like i said it's sort of a situation you don't want to hear that you know someone you don't really know was like telling you someone else was taught whatever it's also like in survivor maybe that's just sort of expected that people are going to do that right it's like and so it's just part of the game and you don't really want to maybe sometimes you don't really want to hear about it right like if i've been like kyle and tiana are pretty close right so so say like me and bryce say we're out there and we're close and then so and then wendell comes and tells me that you said that i was like

really really physical and like a good like a good social player and right that could be construed to be like oh you're labeling me as a threat but like if you talk to anyone they can kind of prompt information out of you then anything you say that's like good about someone else could also just be like painted as like them targeting so I'd sort of be like okay like if you guys are talking and like like, and maybe you're, like, saying something about me and Bryce is just like, oh, yeah, he's, like, good in challenges. You could come back to me and be like, oh, Bryce said, like, you're really, like, a big challenge for that. But I'd be like, Bryce is my friend. Like, I don't care.

Like, that's not even, like, value. That's just, like, kind of annoying at that point to be doing that. But it depends who you're on the island with because some people might, like, if you don't, first of all, if you don't pour this information on everyone and you are picking and choosing who you're talking to, then on a certain season, this might be a good strategy. And we've seen people look for certain words just so they can use it against people. But in this case, Rome just wants a little OD with it.

And it's a time and a place, right? I feel like had he pulled this out during tribal, right? I think catching something like that off guard is how he should have used some of that information. Because then Kyle would be like, no, I didn't. And you could be like, we wasn't laying up in there last night you didn't like you know what I mean and that really he could have used that leverage but again him just

like hey my name is Rob I'm 4'2 and Kyle said you might win like you know like it's like bro here's the thing as much as like not a great play as that was it was amazing TV to watch right because it's like

could he play this off could it work like just watching him talk about the plan and seeing it unfold to see him going to everybody uh it was excellent tv yeah i guess guess the summation of sort of Rome's pre-challenge antics is, like, you can, there's some credibility to dispersing some information, but it's just so important, like, make those, build those bridges first, like, those social connections. And if you just do it with everybody, it's going to come back and bite you in the butt, I guess. I don't know. Yeah. Interesting. the butt i guess i don't know um yeah interesting and then okay so now that we've we've started on rome let's get to the challenge which kind of you know breaks up that the pre the pre-challenge rome and then there's the post-challenge right in a sense um there's there's bc and ad uh and A.D. Also, quick fact before I forget.

I saw somewhere so the Roman Empire officially ended in 476 A.D. And Rome went home season 47 episode 6. That's pretty crazy. Wow.

Whoa. Just a fun fact jack what's up how often do you think about the roman empire only when rome goes home um so we already talked about this you know this this new merge that takes place or whatever um something that wendell you mentioned earlier that i wanted to bring up was this the schoolyard pick you know we we get it sometimes we haven't gotten one in a while and we never really see the pick um but i don't know if you guys know that someone uh jeff talked a little a little bit about on the on fire podcast and i think someone connected some other some other dots we we know the order of the schoolyard pick have you guys seen this

yeah i saw the video yeah wendell sent it to me the video is out yeah the video is out yeah the video is the actual from the island yeah somebody had a camera phone well I'm behind, huh? You said that. I said that my way, but I just thought it was – go ahead. Yeah, it didn't seem like too much. Like a bunch of dudes got picked early. It was interesting though. Andy was the last pick. And then Rome was the third to last pick. But anyways, so I guess I'm a little behind the eight ball there.

But, I mean, so do we like the Sch little behind the eight ball there, but what I mean, so do we like the schoolyard pick and do we wish they had shown it? I like the schoolyard pick after seeing it. I don't think that it was much to see, so I could see why they cut it out, but I like schoolyard picks when it's me and Wendell. I pick Jack Wendell picks Jeff. I like it when now, Jack, you have to pick somebody for Wendell's team and Jeff has to pick somebody for my team. I like it when you do a schoolyard pick like that where it's like...

But the teams don't exist yet. Now I have to pick someone Now I have to pick someone and send them to Bryce's team. Right. The person you pick isn't for your team. It's for the opposite team. So I would make the first pick and it would be like you and someone else. And then you guys pick, but it's for the opposite team. It's kind of like, you know. So you have to pick someone you don't want basically. Right. Interesting. That's cool. That's cool.

I think they, I think schoolyard picks are dope and fun and can, you know, shake things up a little bit. Or they could just be a little bit regular and okay, we saw how it felt, you know. So yes, enact schoolyard picks, record them. If they add some drama or fun, incorporate some of it in an episode. And if not, we'll take the bonus scene. True. I guess I'm glad it's a bonus scene because I don't – I like a schoolyard pick. I think it makes it probably more even than if they just draw for teams.

But I don't – a schoolyard pick, you know, you kind of have to see every pick, and that would take a good few minutes of the episode it's like as much as we want to see it like most of the time is it actually going to be that interesting probably not um but but yeah so I guess I did like I did like this challenge yeah I thought it was interesting. I like the two parts of it. I like the puzzle, go through the dirt to get to the sand with the tribe that you got to get over. And then the winners of that will then compete for individual immunity challenge. When I saw the pic, I said to myself before the episode

air, I said, I guarantee, and I wasn't wrong, that Rome is going to be doing the puzzle at the end. Because it's like, tell me a challenge that Rome, like, it's just like, you know Rome's like, I'm going to do it. Like, it just, like. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, who's not surprised about that? Like I said, I wouldn't really, I've seen people giving him flack for being on the puzzle, but I wouldn't really call it a puzzle. It was just like a table maze, but he still wasn't very good at it. Well, his strategy was to like run through it

and it got to a point where they were pretty close and actually overtook the other tribe. So say what you want. They got pretty far at one point. They did have a pretty large lead at one point. Fair.

Now, about subbing people in, when Saul was like, yo, we allowed to sub people in? No. Probe shut that down, but do you think about subbing people in when Saul was like, yo, we allowed to sub people in? And people were like, no. Pro shut that down. But do you think? I don't know.

I don't know. I don't even know if that would have been good in the heat of the moment because I feel like on my season I did something similar, not like this. But you get a rhythm, right? Like, you know, it might not have been looking good as a teammate sitting to the side, but Gabe and Rome, they had, they was figuring out how to, it's a learning curve.

And if you sub something in, they'd have to reset that curve. Exactly. Agreed. I just wonder, I'm sure Saul, in all his time with rome you know every challenge rome was definitely like and we saw some of the challenge be like i'm doing it i got it like i won't be able to sleep but i'm not the one who does it and we lose or whatever and but it's like how many times i'm sure every time saul's like all right like But I mean, I would say at what point do you have to put your foot down, but I guess that's not really an issue

anymore. A, because Rome's gone, and B, now they're about to be all individual, so who really cares? I don't know. They're all about to be what? Like, individual challenges. So only one person will be safe? It's a new twist. Oh!

Oh! But then, yeah, Kyle goes on to win this individual part. But, listen, Kyle goes on to win, but Sue gave him a run for his money and I think

with Tsunami having that idol Tsunami her back being against the wall a little bit with some of the other people in there I think Sue might be a problem Sue might be like because I just I could see Sue in these individual challenges like something

like this where you got to stay like I think Tsunami going to be a force to be reckoned with. Yeah. For a 45-year-old, she out there killing it. So, yeah, Kyle ends up winning. We've talked about the feast a little bit. The one thing we haven't really talked about that I would kind of like to discuss is Teenie gets pretty drunk.

discuss is teeny gets pretty drunk and at first i was kind of like if you're not safe and you have a tribal go to that day no is it ever good to get drunk why yes uh and then i was kind of like maybe there's i don't like i'll throw it to you guys is there a world where like getting drunk can be good for your game yes I don't disagree but please elaborate I want to hear like because I

like my opinion is right if there are decisions that need to be made and I feel like Tini's been pretty good at this thus far if there's decisions to be made and you, and I feel like Tini's been pretty good at this thus far. If there's decisions to be made and you come back a little zooted and booted, you're not making the decisions, right? And like, you're in a pretty good space.

So it's like, that's one less thing that you could say, hey, I had six coronas. I don't know. I feel like it kind of like removes you from the decision making process. And if you're in a pretty good place like Teeny is where nobody really check up for Teeny. Teeny's like she's got her situation. She has the ambulance with Caroline and Andy. Like, I really feel like it just kind of it's almost as if like she went on a journey and how she was saying to Rome when she made up with Rome.

Like, hey, I had nothing to do with it so I think in that aspect yes it could be good for your game because you just you having a good day is there a world where you act drunk but that's what I was gonna say I now, I don't think this is a great idea. I guess it depends on the position you're in. But there's a non-zero chance Tini could come back to camp and maybe someone's like, Tini, people are looking at you. And then to have to manage that when you're drunk is a lot harder. But I think the benefits here, A, if you're in a good spot,

it could be good for your social game to just be like god like let's go like how many everyone's gonna be like oh teeny's fun like teeny's having a good time i'm not too worried about teeny and to i guess to your question kind of what i thought too is i think there's a really fine line where you are drunk enough where you're like giving good good energy good vibes but also you know people always say like when you're drunk kind of like the drunk words are uh sober thoughts and like the truth kind of comes out when you're drunk but if you're at that perfect level of drunkenness where you're still kind of like know what you're doing i think you could really utilize

that to be because people i think when if they see you as being drunk i think what you think is being more honest right because they're like oh they're drunk like they're just they're just saying what they think but it's like if you're still have enough control where you can sort of angle that to maybe you spread a little bit of misinformation or whatever and people are like oh but but team but jack's drunk like he wouldn't just be, like, coming up with crazy lies. Like, he's too drunk to be doing that. Or in the same vein, it's like you might be drunk. A lot of times when you're drunk, you're like, you go to your friends and you're like, bro, I love you, bro.

Like, you're my best friend. And, like, I think that's something you can do on the island, too, where you get back to camp and you're like, you go to, like, your closest ally or whatever. You're like, dude, I never tell you, but you're my number one like i love you and you know what jack i actually say the opposite of that right you could utilize that to go to somebody that you might not actually like right and do that same like jack ah i went on that journey we had a lot of beers but listen i know we ain't seeing eye to eye, but it's like, I think you're a great person. And like, you know, you would use that to make it like you could pretend and be like, yeah.

Like, how can we get to the bottom of this? Cause like, I'll be sitting over there thinking like, you're great. Like that, that, that that's smart. Yeah. I think it could work with anyone. Like, uh, yeah, it's, it's, it's a really interesting, I really thought about it. Like, I think it could work with anyone. It's a really interesting, I haven't really thought about it, but I think it's an interesting dynamic to just be like,

how does it affect your game if you're drunk? Beer pong needs to be a challenge. Another interesting thing that I thought was so funny this episode where, in the new era and just in all ways, when we have a vote, right, people are always like, well, who's going to be the, like, who are we going to tell the person that we want to get out? Who are we going to tell them the vote is for?

Has this ever happened in survivor history where because Rome was Roman, Rome came up with his own alternate vote. And it was just like, who? Okay, I love Rome. And I thought what Rome was doing was so great. But also it was like, you know, kind of a cringe-worthy moment because we

know what's happening. But I love how Rome was going out to people like, hey, what's up, Wendell? You know, you heard what everybody's saying. Everybody's saying Jack, so we just gonna go with Jack. Like, although it was Rome, yo, I was loving that. Like, his confidence and how... And the confessions to match. These professionals chilling, feet feet up kick back chilling like

yeah i mean i'm in a great position you know i'm just telling it it's like bro when he came for kirk heinrich i was i was bad i didn't think kirk heinrich was gonna get uh any airtime kirk heinrich kirk heinrich kirk heinrich underrated hooper though so rome i know you almost went to the league but you can't you can't come from my man kirk heinrich that's a bad comp um yeah i mean it was it was pretty wild like it was really just building up rome's downfall i mean i know when I when I was watching we were all like is this just the most obvious vote ever or like is something crazy gonna happen because even like even all the alternative plans like didn't really have any like weight behind them

so I was like is Rome gonna play like a shot in the dark like I don't I don't really know. It's so obvious. It was so obvious that we really thought that it wasn't going to be wrong. I'm like, it can't be. That is also what makes me so mad about Rome is that how are you that comfortable, Rome? Where are your alarms? You think that you're just going to go up to everybody and say Saul, and that's it. And you playing everybody. Like, that was the crazy part for me,

that it's like you're that wrapped up that, like, you don't even want to know who the other person is. Like, I don't know. to know who the other person like i don't know that for me um was great but again i loved him going up to everybody and just how he was doing it like and also i think jeff probes is like he's the shadiest host ever because you know Jeff knows everything that's going on so for Jeff to give Rome that moment is epic but it is also diabolical for Jeff to do that to Rome okay a lot of people were torn on it but I kind of thought it was hilarious because I was like Jeff's kind of in on the joke right he's in on it and how much Jeff's diabolical he not like how much more would it hurt going home if you just had this moment

where it's like one you already think you run in the tribe you think you told everybody the name now at tribal it's like Jeff made that man feel even more comfortable. It's like, y'all ain't never seen a player like me. I got this game wrapped around my arm so much. I took Jeff's spot. I think it was Gabby Pescusi who tweeted, Jeff letting Rome sit in the seat was like giving your dog chocolate before putting it down. Yeah.

I saw that. And then on the other side, our friend Chrissy Hoback was not happy with that. Yeah. Wait, she wasn't happy with him sitting on Jeff's seat? She thought it was like a disgrace to the gamers. I don't know. Well, I don't think it's a disgrace. First of all.

Yes, we love Chrissy. But no, for me, I'm with her in the sense that I look at that seat as the highest seat in the jungle, right? So it is like for me, like, okay, now we just letting people sit on the seat. Like, I do think it is unprecedented. However, I loved it. Like like i thought it was like great and it just couldn't have been a more better person because you know rome thought he ate well that's the thing it's like his expense kind of so i don't really think it's i get where christy's coming from, that they shouldn't just be letting people sit there or whatever. But if it's kind of like, like I said, a joke at Rome's expense,

it's kind of funny. It's not – even Jeff is kind of being tongue-in-cheek with it. I thought it was kind of entertaining. But it is funny, too, because Rome, in his pre-game bio said one of his goals or whatever right Jeff that's first of all that's why I'm saying Jeff is diabolical he knew all it is here's a random question I always hear this uh but I never understand the origin tongue in cheek um I don't really know it's you know it's just like a frat i i would guess maybe it's like um is it mean like essentially like lip service like you're just like

no it's like tongue in cheek it's kind of just meant it's like um it's just sort of like uh maybe like a internal joke like oh like you said something but you were just kind of like you didn't really mean it it was just kind of like a internal joke. Like, oh, like you said something, but you were just kind of like, you didn't really mean it. It was just kind of like a little throwaway joke. Like it's tongue in cheek. It says cleverly amusing tone, bantering, facetious, comedic, humorous.

But I just, I don't get the tongue in the cheek. I don't know. If I had to guess, maybe I'd be be like it's sort of like when you say a little like naughty throwaway joke and you you almost your face you'll like you'll like put your tongue in your cheek man so if i say a serious one i could say tongue in the throat i don't know because i just i know i'm just trying to understand that i get it but i just i don't get it in the it's just like a lot of phrases like colloquial phrases that some of them have origins that make sense all right in the 1700s people may have used their tongues to poke their cheeks to show

skepticism or contempt. So I was kind of right. In the 21st century, what do they... Bryce, we don't want to hear it. If I'm doing... I ain't trying to show you no skepticism.

I'm trying to show you no skepticism. I'm trusting you. Okay, Bryce. So if I don't believe somebody, you're supposed to go like... Well, I think it's sort of like, sometimes it's like a natural facial expression. Like when you... Like if you say something, I'm like, I'm not so sure. Like, when you... Like, if you say something, I'm like,

I'm not so sure. Like, maybe... I mean, that's more lip to side. Like... But, you know... Tongue goes on the cheek. This is what we should waste five minutes on. I just...

So, what Jeff let Rome come talk about was this amulet situation and i mean obviously watching we kind of get it and like of course all the players kind of get it too so it wasn't like rome rome articulated it well i don't he wasn't really shedding any new information that we hadn't really seen but he did make a good point and i want to know from you guys like with this amulet situation they end up playing it for teeny you know if you're one of those three amulet holders what's your thought process with these amulets do you do you use it first thing do you hold on to it like what's what's the mood

so i get it they have power right but i also felt like if you guys can come to the like i wish they would have held on to it a little longer right right? Like, I felt like they, that was a cohesive enough group that it could have been useful. And I understand what the ambulance, like, you know, it makes you more of a target, but I just felt like it's a target within, right? It would make Andy more of a target to Teeny, Teeny more of a target to Andy, to Caroline. However, I felt like they were pretty cohesive and I felt like I wish they would have kind of like, the cat was out of the bag already. Now that's something I could get, right?

That makes sense. Like the cat was out of the bag. And so it's like- Yeah, how does that one make more sense than what's that mean, Bryce? Because I look at it as like, if I have a Christmas present for you, and back in the 1800s where they didn't have

wrapping paper, they just had paper bags, and it's like, Jack, I got a present for you. You don't know what it is. And then when you open it up and the cat comes out the bag, it's like, oh. That is a little more than tongue-in-cheek. The phrase is thought to have originated from a medieval livestock fraud.

At markets, dishonest merchants would sometimes swap a cat for a piglet in a sack before the customer looked away. The buyer wouldn't discover the deception until they got home and let the cat out of the bag. First of all... until they got home and let the cat out of the bag. First of all. See, this is what I mean. These are all like, oh. But can you imagine, like, honey, we're going to have some bacon this week. Oh, I can't.

And it's like, oh, I can't. But Bryce, I think your explanation kind of made sense too. It's like the gist of it is like, okay, the cat was this hidden thing. And now it's out in the open and we know what it is. But that's more, I understand that more than. Yeah. Yeah. But that's it.

But I wish they would have held on to the amulet, right? Like I can't, like it was disarmed because everyone knew about it. Right. Like, uh, and I understand this great show of power that they did to kind of like, you know, get rid of it. I wish they would have held on to a little bit. Keep them guessing. My concern there is right now with Rome as a unanimous vote, it's easy to just come together. But soon enough, I think as soon as someone targetsous vote, it's easy to just come together. But soon enough, I think

as soon as someone targets someone else, then you're not just going to be giving your idol away to let someone else play it. But I also felt because Rome was so unanimous, why even do... Let's just... Now's the time to come together and get rid

of it, because otherwise, as soon as they start going at each other, they're either going to target each other or they're not going to play it together. I'm just saying, save it for next week. And then see how you feel. There was probably a lot of talk like, yo, we're just going to get rid of this.

We want a clean slate. And if you don't and you hold it now, it's like, not only do you guys have reasons to work against each other now other people have reasons to like oh these three might have something let's let's target them but you're right but i also maybe maybe rome has activated my offensive game and it's like if that's the case then come on blue and blue, and come on, red tribe. Like, get your people and start plucking up. Like, you know what I mean?

Like, I understand what you're saying, but there is a world where I could have seen that you guys, they could have used it to be a lot more proactive. And like, and start running the game. But I see why you wouldn't, but I was hoping that they would hold on to it a little bit longer. I mean, yeah, there's a,

obviously there's a world where it could have had more impact, but I do think a lot of people try to maximize their impact with any advantage they have, and it leads to them, like, going home with it or whatever. I don't disagree, but I'm just thinking, like, you know, coming from all different tribes, you know, next week, say the target is, you know, Sam. Then, you know, week say the target is you know sam then you know andy's not going to give his idol away and then as as things continue to aspire and then it is it is a weird we've talked about this when they first got introduced because part of it is like well maybe i don't want to target any of them because if they're never going to play it together

then taking one out is now going to make the other one stronger. But what I thought they basically, what I thought they should have done, and they kind of basically did this, or honestly, maybe they did do it, is, you know, if you want to get rid of it, which I think generally is smart, you know, cleaning your slate at the merge, is tell everyone like,

hey, the three of us at Tribal are going to like, rock, paper, scissors, shoot, and whoever wins gets the idol because then it you know if you're gonna live up to that and if everyone else on the beach thinks oh there's a one in three chance that andy teeny or caroline is safe that's enough of a chance where with 10 other targets i don't think that they're going to be targeted. So in a way, that small chance of you have being safe this round is enough to basically make you fully safe. I think that's kind of a good outcome with these amulets to just be guaranteed to make the merge

slash probably the jury. I hear what you're saying. Even if it puts a target on you, I feel like it still gives you somewhat of an option to maneuver some way shape or form and so for my own individual game even if I'm aligned with the other three ambulant

holders I still like that option of moving and shaking a little bit but that's all see I don't fully disagree with you, but I'm curious. So Bryce, say you're, say you're teeny here and, you know, Andy and Caroline come to you and present this plan and you don't,

and you don't want to do it. How do you go about talking to those two and kind of pitching to the rest of the tribe about like why and how you're going to keep this amulet like when you want to use it again it's a power play and so i'm going to always say i'm going to go with andy and carolyn caroline and then i'm going to get my troops i'm gonna let them know that at the tribal, I'm not standing up with them. This is like, it's going to make waves, but you can't swim if you're not. No, see, that's the wrong answer. I mean, I'm just saying it's an option.

And in the game of Survivor, you need options. And sometimes you can play offense. Sometimes you can play defense. That's all I'm saying. But Bryce, I think that's, if you agree and then you don't do it, then everyone's going to be like, what's going on? My other people, I got my other people. Listen, I got my soul.

I got my Genevieve. Like, I'm just saying, I didn't say it was a good option. I'm just saying, like, it's an option.'t say it was a good option I'm just saying like it's an option and they love huge plays and can you imagine if the plan was everyone votes then we'll stand up and play the ambulant and then you have a side plan and

everyone thought they was going like I mean that's a that's a move but if you don't if you don't play it then all of a sudden Andy and Caroline are gonna be like damn, Bryce isn't with us. Now if we want to use our agents, we got to get Bryce out. I'm sorry. How many people

can win Survivor? I don't think... I respect you wanting to make more of a play with it, but I'm just saying in this thought exercise, I think that would really get you in a lot of trouble. Okay, that was real tongue-in-cheek.

Listen, I'm not saying what I said was great. All I'm saying is, do you understand what I'm saying? No, you're saying there's other options that would be more interesting and impactful than what they did. Which I don't disagree. So all I'm saying is if we can have these votes and just hold them off, tell them it's a pig. and so i don't disagree but so all i'm saying is if we can have these votes and like you know just

hold them off tell them it's a pig don't let the cat you don't gotta let the cat out the bag just yet i'm just saying like here's my thing yes we should get rid of it all i'm saying is let's try to get two more tribal councils and then just see what we can make shake. I think my concern, I know we're kind of just on opposite sides of this, but I think my concern, if I were Andy, would be once the, Rome's an easy vote now. We can come together and get rid of this idol. But once things start to potentially fracture in different directions,

it's a lot less likely that the three of us can come together and just agree to play it on one of us. And so at that point, if we can't even get rid of it because the three of us don't want to play together, then it's either a target to the other amulet holders or it's a target to everyone else. And I can't even get rid of my idol at this,

my amulet at this point. I get it. Just a fully just becomes a burden but you're not letting i i agree with you but all i'm saying is let's just see how it shakes out let's see what tomorrow morning breaks okay so let's take a vote was this a good idea for them to burn their amulet right now get get rid of it, get a fresh start, get the eyes off of them? I think it's great. I'm not mad

at it. I'm just saying there's a world where all I'm saying is there's a world where they could have been selling pigs and really selling cats. That's all. Have we ever seen a scenario when people came together selling pigs and really selling cat. That's all. Have we ever seen a scenario when people

came together and used it properly? Or was it always people targeting and getting people out? It's a limited sample size though, but yeah. But that's also what I'm saying is that Teeny, C, and A, they were all so

cohesive. But I mean, I know. But that's what I'm saying. Well, let's see a little later. Have you ever had the candy? That's why it's called Now and Later.

It's a terrible candy. You think so? I'm good on Now and Laters. Oh, my God. Maybe this is the exact, if you like Now and Laters, then you want to hold on to the Amulet. But if you don't, then you want to play it.

I love a Now and Later. Fair enough. Yeah, I don't know. But, right, when the Amulet first got introduced, I think one of the most interesting discussions I think we've had this season was about all the different ways that it can shake out and all the pros and the cons to it. So I think it's in line with that

that we're having this debate of now or later. So I can't... That's just the thing. There's so many ways it can shake out. There's honestly no way to predict what would be good and what wouldn't. So I don't know. I just think, you know, especially coming off of 46 or whatever, where people hold these

idols or whatever, trying to make the perfect move. Sometimes you just got to get away with a few good moves. No, you're right. No, you are absolutely right. Here's my last thought on it, right? What I mean by it can create options. you know how sometimes, like, you know, we got to have another vote in case you play the shot in the dark, right? Like, so it kind of automatically triggers something else. That's, in my mind, why I will want to keep the amulet for a

little bit longer, because I want to just trigger other mechanisms that could potentially keep me in the know and could potentially, in this time where anybody can go for anything, another name. But, I mean, listen. We could talk about it now. We could talk about it later. A small part of me wonders, maybe the benefit to them never using it or holding on to it would actually just be that it would be less of a target in a way.

Because maybe they don't ever come together, but then maybe everyone else is like, well, if we vote out any of them, then the other two have, like, it's like maybe we just don't even touch them for a while which if that's just a thought in the back of everyone's mind that it's like oh i don't want to come for them like right now then maybe that buys them some i don't know like that's another that's the flip side of it all because then it's not a target it's actually a shield um but i don't know because i'm just thinking if I was out there and I didn't have an amulet, I'd be like, okay, well, this is kind of a target, but if we get rid of it now...

Then it becomes more powerful, and I'm not that close with Andy, and I don't know what he would do if it were right. It's also sort of like, well, inevitably we do have to get rid of it, because we can't just let all three of them go to the final five with it. That's insane. And if we voted them out later, and then one of them has the idol later, we have less time to flush it.

So it could work like, like it could work as if they don't touch them, but it could also work as like, maybe they do target them right away so they can get them the idol out, out of there as soon as possible. But I don't know. It's very complicated. Either way. Well, I guess we will have to wait and see if this was a good play

for next week. But again, we thank you all for listening. Hold on. Oh, okay. We got some crazy voting. I mean, this is one of the rare episodes we see all the voting, a lot of the voting confessionals before. We have Germans, or we have

Andy speaking German. German Andy. We have Sam. And Sam a lot of the voting confessionals before we have germans or we have andy speaking german germandy uh we have sam and sam i had you know i give people flack for um pre pre preparing some some lines but i had been thinking i was like whenever someone votes rome out the bet that there's a line right there it's like rome wasn't built in a day, but this game can end in one. And then Sam verbatim, my guy, says that in his confessional, which I thought was a great voting confessional. But yeah, I mean,

we see all these voting confessional and we know Rome's going to go home. But also, Rome had the audacity. Okay. You just had the day that you had, right? You thought you was going to put everybody on the soul. You had the nerve to get up to that voting booth,

step on those three steps so that you could get up there and write it down and say, I'm going to throw an audible. I'm going to eat him with this one. And then you have to turn the right side. But that is I wouldn't want Rome to go out any other way. I can't, but like,

I'm like, my God, he does not stop. I love it. Yeah, I don't mind that. But he sat down. He was like, oh. And then, did you see? When they pulled the Sam card, everybody started looking.

Rome was like, who? He was like. That contributes to Rome being a good team. Because it's like, say his plan had worked perfectly. And then Sam gets a vote. We already know Rome was back at camp. Like, who votes for Sam? Just trying to stir it up.

So whether you love or you hate Rome, it's definitely he's making good TV. And it just adds to the fact of you playing around, you acting like, and then they said your name and your jaw was really stuck like that. You was like... And this is how you know, first of all, love Rome, great for TV.

But this is how you know that man was hurt. He said like, y'all got me. Good move. It's an honor to sit up there, Jeff. Jeff snubs his sword. He turns around at him. He said, good move. It was an honor to sit up there,

Jeff. And they're like, okay, you can walk away. He walked. Good move. It was an honor to sit up there, Jeff. He was literally saying the same thing over and over again. And he asked for the hug. Where my hug at?

Can I get a hug? Yeah. I definitely think we will see Rome again, and I definitely think again, Mikayla was a pre-merge the first time she played. And I think she was at the same spot that Rome was at. I definitely think there's a huge chance

we will see Rome again. He was a character. It was great to watch him. And people were comparing on Twitter, if you only got one slot to fill on 50 and it's between Rome or Q, who are you picking? It's Q hands down. Come on, let's not even play this game.

No disrespect, but, like. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I mean, look, Rome, it's an interesting dilemma because did Rome make some great TV? Yes.

But if you ask the majority of fans if they liked Rome, no. But here's the thing, though. But I feel like that works more in your favor. If more of the fans don't like you, I think that that's even more reason to bring you back. To me, I don't want to be harsh, but there's a difference between, like,

there's people you love to root against and Rome starts to tiptoe into that boundary. But there's also people you just are rooting against because you're just not feeling it. And I hate to say it, but I think a lot of... What's up? Where you at on that scale?

I don't even think anyone's thinking about me. But I don't... Are you dodging the question? No, I'm just curious. You are... Just hearing fan sentiment, Rome was just a very exasperating person for a lot of people to watch. And so Q, if we're talking this direct comparison,

he's a little bit wild and a little bit villainous in his own ways, but has this charisma that people really, like, enjoyed. So I don't, you know, I don't want to get into it. For me, I think one Rome season is enough for me. But I would say the same

thing about one or two big brother players this season that some people are dying to have back. My opinion is not the end all be all. Here's a, I have a bold prediction, even though it's going to stand what I, I have a feeling I could see,

I didn't see the previews, you know, I don't watch the previews because I don't like spoilers, but there's a world where you ever read books or see stories where like, there's the character that everyone hates and wants to get rid of and you do all the things to get rid of the character and then when that person is gone then the person that did their best to like fight nobly and get that character then they kind of like the like i could potentially see that for like all yeah mind you, I would love it, but

I don't know why I was thinking that today on the airplane when I was all by myself and nobody was with me because I was left. But I was... Saul was kind of the guy that did it for Rome because when they were all talking and comparing, Saul was like,

that's what he does. That's his M.O. I think Saul pushed him off the cliff but he didn't push him what i will say about rome because i feel like i came out i feel like i came out a little harsh on rome i wonder if after this season and after seeing how he was received by, you know, the cast or the fans, maybe he found a little bit more balance in his personality and maybe coming back, it could be a great second chance where it's like, I realized these things about myself first season. Now I can fix them.

And it wasn't so much that I didn't like Rome as like a person or anything. It was more like Rome is such a big character because we talked about this in the pre-merch he eats up he automatically eats up so much screen time and so part of me thinks like if i saw rome on a season 50 i know half of his tribes confessionals are gonna be rome and if he's up there with some of the greats then i don't want that um is is i guess what i need to say but i think it depends on the season, because to be honest, the Reba people were saying that about Sifu. They thought that his personality was so big that they wouldn't get any screen time at all,

and they just didn't edit him like that. Anyway. That's a good point. Yeah. Well, that's been your recap of episode 6 of Survivor 47 We'll be back next week covering episode 7 We'll be in New Orleans If you haven't gotten your Bryce and Wynn Tour 47

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