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Episode Date: April 4, 2025

The baby boys are back with your weekly dose of Survivor News! Join @BriceIzyah, @WendellHolland, and @JackAtkins21 as they dive into the chaos of Survivor 48 Episode 6. The tribes merge, sparking a frantic search for a hidden advantage that leads to a game-changing find. New alliances form as players bond over shared interests, while others target perceived threats. A dramatic Tribal Council results in a pivotal blindside, leaving the castaways—and viewers—reeling. Grab your buffs and tune in!

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It's the Purple Pants podcast. You're trying to get your snack. You better hurry right back though. It's the Purple Pants. It's the Purple Pants. What's up, what's up? Welcome to the Purple Pants Podcast Survivor News, covering Survivor Season 48, Episode 6.

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and let us know in the comments what you think about this week's recap. The Baby Boys are back with your weekly dose of Survivor news when DZ, Jack Atkins, and myself as we dive into the chaos of Survivor 48 episode 6, the tribes merge sparking a frantic search for a hidden advantage that leads to a game changing fine. New alliances form as players bond over shared interests while other targets perceived threats, a dramatic tribal council resulting in a

pivoted blindside, leaving the castaways and viewers like myself in the purple pants posse wanting more. Let's get into this week's Survivor News. What is going on? Welcome back to this week's Survivor News, covering season 48, episode six. I am ecstatic to be here. We had a great episode. I'm with the baby boy.

You might know him from the circle. Season two. The floor is lava. Or, you know, he might just be the next casting agent that is calling you to see about a love show on a boat. The man, the myth, the legend, Jack Atkins was popping. What is up, Bryce? Just me and you right now. Well, listen, we had to put Wendy's on spring break. No, Jack, Chicago was a time. The BWP Tour 48, we rolled into Chicago

with Ozzy, with Rome, with Sifu, with Alexis from Kageon, with Jatia from Kageon, with Liana, with Jessica from Big Brother, with Matt Hoffman, with Andy, it was Hoffman, with Andy. It was a time, Jack. Where was it at? That was in Chicago. No, like what spot?

Oh, Bar Cosina in Chicago, and it showed out. The weather in Chicago though, Jack, a lot was happening. We pulled into Chicago Tuesday afternoon. It almost looked like it was going to blizzard. It was so cold. That night, a thunderstorm came through. It was lightning. It was raining all day.

Then maybe like three o'clock, it stopped raining, but it was still cloudy. Then by six, seven o'clock, it was humid and hot. And I guess they were tornado warnings. And so Wendell, my flight, Joey's flight, they canceled them and not only canceled them, they rescheduled them for Friday. But the baby boy said, listen, I gotta get,

I gotta work, I got survival news. I had to go with another airline. When DZ stayed true with his airline and they were able to rebook him, but he had a layover and something. So when DZ is still on his way home, hopefully he can pop back in. But if not, the baby boy Jack and I can handle it. And if we have any OG purple pants posse members that are still with us, if you remember the inception of Survivor News was actually Jack and myself. So it was a lot Jack.

Chicago was amazing. I do wanna, I'm sad that Wendyzy isn't here, but I do wanna just talk about some things. But before we even get into that, shout out to all of our YouTube commenters, that comment, that engaged with us. We really appreciate it. There was one comment that was like,

I don't know if it's just me, but why do they have to talk so much? Just get to the recap. And we received that, but also, shout out to the posse that was like, baby, that's what survivor news is. It's the friends catching up. We want to hear if one comment was like, I just like to be a fly on the wall.

However, we do receive it. So I just want you to know that I will pin the comment of when we start talking about the episode in the YouTube comments so you can know if you want to just fast forward. But, couple of things I wanna say, Jack. Yeah, I mean, now that we got the, we're gonna pin a comment, we're gonna maybe put a timestamp,

so now that that's settled for, you know, whoever just wants to fast forward, we can sit back and we can just chat it up, so. Just chat it up. Couple of things I need to just get off my chest about Chicago. So last week we talked about the beef that Wendell and I had at the barbecue and I thought Jack was on my side, but when Deezzy posted a reel.

And if you listened to last week's episode, I told you like, I just, I wasn't feeling like myself, I didn't wanna do anything. And so I didn't come in like the Bryce Isaiah that Wendell knows. And so I felt like I described it on the podcast. Then Wendell posted a reel and I definitely tagged Jack. I said, Jack, look at this.

And so how did I come in, Jack? Wendell was like, what you got in the bag, Perp? And you're like, food. Well, I was on your side. Like you were saying you just weren't in the right headspace and that's totally understandable. But I just thought the way you did come in, it's like- Wendell was so excited.

He's like, Perk, what you got? Where you at? And I was just like, boo. Your mom's like, what'd you learn at school today, Bryce? Nothing? And that's the truth. But I do want to say, and so I received that criticism. I do have a praise report that in Chicago, Jack,

there were no fights. Everything was great. And so I feel like sometimes I talk about Wendell and I having beefs and fights, but sometimes I don't talk about like positive things. And so I just want to just tell this quick story, a little sad, I don't want to get emotional, But when I was at the airport flying out to Chicago, my mom called me and our family dog, Sunshine,

who we all love and care about, was put to sleep that night before. She was having some heart issues and we knew it was potentially coming. We just didn't know when. And so like my mom told me and my mom's just kind of like a mess. My mom loves or loved and loves sunshine. And so she just wasn't dealing with it too well. And so. And I'm my mom's favorite child, so my mom kind of like puts a lot on me.

Not a lot, but like, you know, I'm my mom's friend. Right. And so it was a lot for me to kind of. Handle, I would say, or I just didn't know, like I'm trying to support my mom. And so when I got to Chicago, Wendell and Joey were on the same flight. I was on a different flight, but they picked me up. And so, again, my energy wasn't the energy that they were expecting. And I didn't really want to like talk about sunshine because like I still was kind of sort of processing it like I didn't realize how upset I was. Right. Like I knew my mom was upset, but I didn't know how upset I was. And so I wasn't Bryce.

But I like to think that I wasn't like mean or nasty, but I knew that they could sense it and they're great friends, Jack. Like Wendell and Joey was just like, you good? Like, let's get you to the hotel. We want to get something to eat, but we know you probably want to do your own thing. So we'll leave you to be.

And then later that day, I kind of told them what was going on and they were just really good friends. And I just wanted to tell that story because I feel like sometimes I. Like, what do I not thought he was wrong? And so there's not often and I said, I meant what I just said, it's not often times I got these type of stories. No, but joking, but they were great. And I really appreciate them for just allowing me to just kind of sort of have that space. And so, I'm gonna put that out there.

Also, I'm sorry to hear about Sunshine, but yeah, I feel like you and Wendell are really like brothers from another mother. And sometimes when you're that close with somebody, you're gonna fight like brothers, but when you really need it the most, those people are always gonna be there for you too. So.

Right. And sometimes being there for you is like, I'm gonna let you have your space. Right. And also like not treat you weird. And so I think that that for me was like really what meant the most. But Chicago showed out Jack.

It was such a great time. We had Ozzy and so many amazing people. But the thing that stuck with me the most was just the posse was in the building and I got some messages that I needed to relay to you. And I just, you know, wanted to tell you what some of the posse was telling me because first of all, you know, the posse, we friends. And so it's like we family, we we go together. And so specifically, though, Jack, three black women pulled me to the side and said, hey.

I want to let you know why we listen to Survivor News. We love Survivor and we see the discourse that's going on with Jack. And they said, is Jack biased sometimes? Yes. I agree. They said, but listen, that's why we like to listen to the podcast. They said, Jack's a young lad. He's growing.

And sometimes we can't see our own bias, me included. They're like, and you're biased too. You like who you like. They're like, if somebody got their chest out, you fanning over them. I said, not too much, not too much. But what they, and again, three separate conversations, but the same sentiment was that they love the

fact that you stand 10 toes down, whether they agree with you or not. And the fact that they wanted me to reassure you that like, Jack, you're a good person. And so whoever you align with, because we all know how Jack think and how Jack go, he's a survivor. He knows the analyticals. He knows what's the best outcome. They're like, you know, stand ten toes down. And again, they express they like hearing from me. They like hearing how we go back and forth.

And then they said, like, they like how I can come back and be like, you know, Jack, you was right. Or you could come back and be like, you know what? I wasn't looking at it like that. I didn't have the information. They did say when Wendell chimes in, he adds something to it. But again, the sentiment was like. Jet stay ten toes down, Bryce stay ten toes down, Wendell stay awake.

And they were just they were saying that they felt as though like they don't get that type of discourse from other podcasts. And they like that we will talk about things that sometimes might be a little taboo. They might be a little kind of touchy, but like we're not scared to go there. And so, again, three separate conversations. And they were from black women and they were loving on Jack. They like sometimes I want to fight Jack.

Sometimes I want to be like, Bryce shut up and let Jack talk. But they was like, we love Jack. And so I just wanted to like, share that with you. No, that's nice to hear. Yeah, the thing I love about this podcast, ever since the days that you and I just started,

we did like a seven minute episode. It's that you and I, we come in hot. And sometimes we come in too hot. And we know that. But I think you and I really, and this is why I love you so much as a friend, too, Bryce, is that we really balance each other out, I feel like. And sometimes I come in too hot, and you'll be like, whoa, whoa, whoa. And then sometimes you'll come in too hot, be like, you'll be like, Whoa, whoa, whoa. And then sometimes you'll come into I'll be like, and I did and I did. And then, you know, and then I feel like we can both we both learn a lot from each other too. And that's why I'm always willing to like hear other people. This is such a great community from you guys to the people in the comments. We read the comments, you know,

and sometimes there's comments that are real honest about me, but I feel like it's people in the posse that are coming at me for not coming at me, but coming to me as almost like a older brother or older sister or aunt or an uncle, you know, looking out for me. So I'm always receptive to those kinds of comments. And, you know, this is how me like this is how I grow and I learn. And I feel like I grow and I learn. And I feel like I grow and I learn a lot from the posse and from Wendell and from especially you. I mean, I look back to when we first met,

I was a 19 year old lad still figuring out the world. And you added so much perspective to my life and I always appreciate that. So not to get too sentimental. Yeah, no, no. OK, well, let's go down the sentimental role. I appreciate that. And I received that, Jack. And I sometimes feel like it's hard for me to receive compliments from people.

And in the back of my head, I'm like, they lying. But OK, one thing that I love the most about you, specifically Jack, is that in this reality realm, you know, Jack's in LA, a lot of people were like, why isn't Jack here? He lives in Chicago. I'm like, no, he went to school in Chicago. Also, there was a young lad, he wasn't in your fraternity,

but he went to your school and he was a sophomore, but he was letting me know that this was going to be his last semester because he got a job at a startup and he's going to go with the startup. JT was there. That he was like, I won't yell at you, but if you're going to take that job at the startup, get stock in the company, make it worth your while. And he was saying that that was potentially an option, but he was unsure whether or not you should take the option.

And he was like, I will take your phone and smash it if you don't take those options. Get those stock options. I said, OK, not Jatiyah. Come on, Jatiyah. But what I would say, the thing that I love the most about you, Jack, is like in this reality realm, come to all shapes, sizes.

And of course, we know Jack has a particular type on Survivor that he likes to root for. However, sometimes I get a little jealous when I be out with Jack. And there are other black queer men that they love Jack. They they best friend. They be like, Jack, hey! Jack like, what's up?

I be like, hey, Jack Black, what's up? I be like, excuse me? No, I love the fact that people see you how I see you. And like, I love the fact that like your friend group is so diverse and that there are like multiple people that you hang out with. But for me specifically, like I see the Black girls that you're connected to, that you like connect with. And I love that.

And I feel like I'm like, look at the baby boy. So I received that. I appreciate that. I feel like I learned a lot from you. Like just being a good vibe with whoever, you know, and to me, like the beauty of this, like our community, the posse, the Bryce and when events is that we're all connecting no matter the,

you know, no matter the race, gender, sexuality, like that's, that makes a more beautiful world. And I feel like that's how you expand. Like having diverse, that's something I pride myself on is just the diversity of my friends. It's just you allow yourself to learn so much more about the world and see the world through a kaleidoscope of colors. Come on. A kaleidoscope. I think that's really important. To me, I always value learning and knowledge, and it's not always in the books, but sometimes it's just the way that you interact with different people in the game.

I think at the core, that's why we love Survivor too, right? We see so much different stuff, but I know there's someone right now listening. I know, I know. We're at the 15 minute mark. I love this conversation though, for sure. Absolutely. But is your water clear, Jack? Oh, what? OK, I don't even fully know what that means. Oh. I don't even know the right way to answer that.

Right? You got a diverse friend group. Just answer it. I'm gonna say no. I'm gonna say it's probably it's giving chocolate milk right now. Listen, let's get into the episode. But before we do get into the episode, Chicago was amazing. But guess what? The Baby Boys are headed to Austin, Texas, April 23rd.

And when I say the Baby Boys, it's Wendyzy, it's Jack, it's myself, and Bey-Bey, we have a star studded lineup. And the list that we have here isn't even the full list. Since we posted this flyer, even more reality royalty has hit us up. So make sure you get your tickets now at Bryce and win dot com. And then after Boston, we're headed to Philadelphia, April 30th. And then from there, we are headed to Boston, May 14th from Boston. And then there's Washington, D.C. And Then there's Washington, DC.

And then there's Washington, DC, Boston, and then the grand finale. The tour is going great. And so tickets, priceandwin.com. Melissa, let's get into that episode. So I love, I love, I love that upfront center. Oh yeah. You got shout out to Tricky.

I like that. And I love, I like that. And I love that. And I love, you know, the multitude of special guests that we got coming. Special guests. So special guests. We got the circle. We got dealer no deal. We got amazing race. We got the challenge. OK, we got Big Brother Turner from Big Brother. BB 20 as the 26. He said he want to pull up. Okay. We got big brother Turner from big brother BB 20 as the 26. He said he want to pull up.

Okay. We got Asia. So yeah, Austin is going to be a time. So get your tickets. I have people in my DMS from the reality community. After I posted the five saying, I got to pull up to this. So it's the talk of the town right now. Not the talk of the town.

Okay. It's the talk of the town right now. Not the talk of the town, OK? But listen, we had an episode to get into. Jackery, like where you want to go with it? Because as I was watching the episode, a lot of things came to my mind. There was Jack Jones. Jack. Yeah, Jack Jones.

Jack Jones was in my mind. It was a little the fusion of like me and James Jones. The fusion of you and James. So that's what I'm calling when y'all both be on my mind. There is a new musician named Jack Jones. Jim Jones. We fly high, no lie. We rolling.

Rolling. Well, so Bryce, we didn't get into any of the episode, but you just did say that you had a lot of things. Oh, I was thinking of Jack Johnson. Oh, okay. So have you ever heard of Jim Jones? Just now. Have you ever heard of Dipset?

Yes. Name someone else that's in Dipset besides Jim Jones. Jack Johnson. Have you heard of Cameron? somebody else name someone else that's in dips that besides Jim Jones. Yeah. Have you heard a camera on? I've heard of all these things. I can't tell you much about that, but I don't really know. Yeah. So like this episode generally pretty straightforward.

Right? Like we've come, I think we've kind of, kind of see that with these like merge at ories. But you told me that you had a lot of questions. So I think it's you and let you just fire away and see where we go. OK, well, normally, you know, I don't like merge at orie episodes. I think merge at orie is dumb. I feel like if we're on the same tribe, we've merged.

And if you vote me out, I'm on the jury. Like that's just how I feel. I'm a little old school and survivor. And that's just how I feel. I always feel super bad for the person that gets voted out on the merge-atory episode, cause I just feel like it's kind of a slap in the face. But this episode, there were so many moving dynamics and so many relationships and so many. I feel like the tribes themselves had core people that work together. And then

when we did the tribe swap, I felt like a lot of the other tribes were kind of like solidified in the tribe swap. And then we come back together to see how it all works. But for me, the biggest thing that I wanted to talk to you about, because I feel like specifically when we talk about the new Aerojack, right, we talk about. It's not the physical strength anymore, right? It's not like you can't have someone like a Ben Dregenberg to just win your way to the end, right?

They call them meat shields, right? They get them out. However, I feel like we had Shaheen, we had Joe, we had David kind of sort of come together and be like, hey. Let's put our meat together. Wow. And listen, I like to see it.

I like to see them put their meat together because it's so weird. And that's why I was like, Oh my God, I need to talk to Jack about this. Because normally the type of player that I am, I don't put my meets together, right? I'm not a part of the meat shield. I would be out. I'm not. I would be on the out. I'm not, I would be on the out. You just walked from the outside? I let the meat shields come on in.

I let them, you know, welcome them. But no, I would be a person that's only out. So I would never be a part of that. Oh, don't say that. But not, but I'm just saying, I feel like in the new era, what I love- So you don't fit the meat shield archetype. Correct. Right. But I am a meat shield in my own right. But I feel like-

You're a meat attacker. Jack, you ain't never lie. Okay. You ain't never lie. It's gonna take a lot of shields to stop you. They can get the whole beach of me. Okay. That's not my kryptonite. I work the best. But no, Jack, stop.

What I'm saying is, I feel like what was refreshing in the new era was that we weren't getting these classic meatheads, right? Like we were getting these underdogs that kind of have slipped through the crack. And credit to David of being like, I've seen what has going on and I don't want this to happen.

And so I was like, I wonder what Jack's take on this is, because old Bryce will be like, I hate this. I don't love this. But because of how the game has changed and the pendulum kind of swings, I like the fact that David was kind of holding the pendulum and trying to swing it another way. So just was curious your thought of like them being like, we are going to get the strong together

and we're going to take out the people that are good at puzzles, that are super social, that are good hiding behind the meat. Mm. Yeah, that's a great way to look at it. And I didn't, that sort of, I wasn't thinking about it immediately, but it kind of touches on like some stuff we talked about preseason of like, now we've had so many women winners

in a row and these guys haven't even seen 47 at this point. A lot of these women, I don't want to say they were under the radar per se, because we saw that they were playing the game hard, but maybe on the island, they weren't those top level threats, even though they should have been because they were out playing everybody and they were scheming and strategizing and socializing. That's kind of what we say. That's the new archetype, I think, of a survivor winner. So I do think it's smart for these guys to be like, our archetype of the brawnier guy or girl is not winning

Survivor as much anymore. And so maybe in a way we're not as big of threats. And so we need to stick together and look out for each other. I can respect that sort of that flipping of strategy. And that's kind of what I predicted preseason a little bit of saying, I think this might be a man's season to win just because of the recent trend of so many women winners that that might elevate their threat level. The other side of this is them kind of coming in and the whole spiel of like, I really want to play this game with like honesty, with integrity. You can save that. I don. I don't need that. Like now, yeah. Like, look, if you just to say it is one thing.

Cause I could tell Shaheen is kind of in there like, yeah, he want to play with, with honest people, but Shaheen will, you know, I think Shaheen's got some moves up his sleeve at the time. It's right. Same with like Kyle, who's also kind of on the one foot in, one foot out of this Alliance. But to be honest, like, as much as I've loved like Eva and Joe as people in this game,

that's the idea of them just like sticking together in loyalty and honor and integrity. That's not exciting Survivor. So I hope that it doesn't work out in that way. But I have a good feel. I feel like, you know, we got the Camillas in the Says and the Mitches on the outside of this that I think are, it's not in theory, it's cool that this alliance has come together, but it's not like old school Survivor where you can really just like pick people off.

There's going to be some twists and some turns and people on the outside that are going to maneuver, I think and so it's it but it is an interesting just change of perception Bryce like you said right and what we see and they they had the numbers and it could absolutely dominate but then also you just say that makes me think about is the game of survivor not built off of deception off of like? So when someone says I want to play an honest game, what really is that? Right. Because in my opinion, an honest game of survivor is

not lying to you until I have to not putting the knife in your back until I have to. Yeah. And I think like, I'm not as, it's tough. Like, I think there's something to be said about this game has become so chaotic. If you could actually find like a six person or seven person alliance to lock in with at the merge and just ride it to six or seven,

like that's a respectable strategy, right? The thing is, if you're someone in that six or seven, that is not in the top three, or that is not going to beat the people that you're with, then that is bad survivor, right? I don't care if I make it to the top seven, if I don't have a good road to winning or to making to the final three. And so, and the thing is I think everybody for the most part in this new era is smart enough

to have something of an understanding of like, oh, I'm not in the majority of this sub-alliance. And so that's why it doesn't work as much anymore. But I think early in the merge, there's a lot of movie pieces. I also think when you take people that are such fans in the merge, it's so, there's a lot of movie pieces. I also think when you take people that are such fans of the show, like this collective group that we have, nobody wants to be that first merge vote out.

They don't want, they don't want, and that's not, everyone wants to make the jury. Like people want to make the jury. People want to, also we saw it like last, we've seen it time and time again, but like Genevieve for last season makes a really big aggressive move pretty early in the merge all of a sudden your target number one so it's really like that's I think

part of the issue with this merge at 13 is nobody really wants to like stick their head up too high and make a move no there's not gonna be big moves at 13 really because if you make a big move at 13, how are you going to survive like the next 10 tribal councils? And that's why I think that that's why this group was a little bit predictable. And we've seen a little bit of it in recent seasons. And that's why I personally love like an 11 person merge and everyone's on the jury, because then the

numbers are a little bit more manageable. There's a little bit more opportunity to make a move. There's been more pre-merge activity, more relationships built, and it sets the tempo. And Bryce, it reminds me of Kageyan, where the merge episode was one of the best episodes of Survivor ever, where, you know, cast slips and votes out Sarah Lucina and that just set the

temple for a great rest of the merge and I wonder in this new era format if that something like that really happened again I am glad that we have this more I'm glad we got rid of the hourglass in the in the murky. Like for all intents and purposes, this is a normal merge now. And that's a lot better than I think what we were dealing with pre like 47. Well, well, like you, Jack, I'm going to stand 10 toes down. I don't care what y'all say in the comments. You know how I feel.

I like the hourglass. Okay, I feel but look at it this way. Think about the outcome of this episode if we would have had the hourglass. Right. Say, Chrissy or say, yeah, say not Chrissy. Say Charity was the one. And then she flipped it. I'm just saying that I'm just I mean, that's so good. But I don't know if I like that.

That doesn't make me feel better. Like if someone else that I was rooting for more than charity went home, because charity had like an outlet, that would suck. But it would suck. For example, one person winning immunity now. So the hourglass would be different, you know? True, true, very true.

It would suck, but it would just be like a shock. And sometimes we also as survivor fans need to understand that even though a person that we love when they go home and it is unexpected, we do have to get out of our own feelings and be like, what up? And respect that like your shockness still adds to a great episode.

Even though it's- I will push back on that because I feel like your shockness still adds to a great episode. Even though it's- I will push back on that because I feel like it's when something that feels cheap happens to create shock, sure it might make a great episode, but say we lose someone great in this episode. Name of the game. But say some trickiness or some weird rule bending happens and we lose like Joe.

And then wow, it's like, wow, we lost Joe. That's a crazy episode. But now we've lost Joe for the rest of the season. I really want like the great players, the great characters to have time to build up their game. I'd rather that shot comes out like final seven, right? Because then it's like, bam, like that's the game. You've had them built up.

There's more of a story arc. It hurts more when they go home, but it hurts more in like, the best way, because you're like, hey, we lost so and so. Well, I feel like you can get hurt on episode three. Yeah, but like losing Thomas, for example, really suck. And not to say that, like there was any foul play. Like that was a totally kosher, like right there game episode for the most like all things considered.

But imagine we had Thomas like the whole season and that tribal happens on like final five and then it's oh, then it's like, oh, it really is a gut punch. Like we didn't get enough Thomas. And that's not that's normal because Thomas went home fair and square. And not to say that, but I do feel like. I just say that that's the name of the game of Survivor. So, yes, someone that we love or that we want to see go far. But then guess what that does? It opens the game of Survivor. So, yes, someone that we love or that we want to see go far. But then guess what that does?

It opens the door for someone else. It opens the door for something else to be created. I do. We're always going to disagree, agree to disagree about the hourglass. Like whatever. No, I mean, like you, I can take it out. But do you agree? I agree that I feel like you agree that it's nice or that, you know, we only have like one person who's safe. Everybody can be voted for.

We like that more than like half the tribe being. I feel like it opens up more options. You know, it does. Different people call votes. I absolutely agree. And I love the fact that it was 13 people voting, right? Like with only 12 people safe. That for me, I loved that feeling.

I loved that take on it. So you're absolutely right. I do agree to that. I do wanna shift a little bit, right? I wanna talk about your girl's set, right? Cause we know Jack's always loud and wrong, but I feel like this episode, we could maybe agree on some say things.

So let me know how you feel. Mind you, after the tribal council, Say came back, Cedric was like, I love to talk to everybody. Say was like, Cedric, I will talk to everybody in the morning. But you and Cedric voted for her. Right. I mean, talk about allowed and wrong.

Jack. Now, yes. However, yes. In the moment, we with say being left out and if Cedric is allegedly your number one, imagine how that would feel. However, I do want to commend Godfather said for taking that initiative to clear the air because in that moment, he doesn't need to write Like he's got Chrissy, Chrissy has Mitch. So if that's how you, if I'm sad and that's how I saved you again, and that's how you want to come at me, Cedric could have absolutely been like, okay, we don't need to talk because I know Chrissy is with me.

I know Mitch will work with me. But I loved how Cedric worked through that moment and kind of like got an understanding. I also shout out to Mitch because they was like, well, in that case, if it wasn't you, Cedric, then it was Mitch. And Mitch is like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry. I didn't know. I didn't know. And then fast forward. We see who Mitch votes for again. Tonight, I love that.

However. To be fair, Say did at least like, when Mitch apologized, she said, well, you don't gotta be too sorry because I voted for Chrissy. Like, I, you know, I could respect, that was the best part about Say handled it. But I'll maintain like coming back to camp and being like,

so, I mean, this is the, this is why Say is such good TV, is like, she's gonna say what she wants to say. And like, sometimes it's gonna be loud and wrong, but she's gonna say it. And a lot of times it's really funny. And a lot of times she does like read people. And it's relatable, right?

There's many times in life though, Jack, that we're loud and wrong. Yeah, and survivors a bad place to be that. But sometimes she's loud and right, or sometimes she's quiet and right. So like, but that's the thing, like, look, the irony of you're like of our past beef, and I don't even want to keep it like stirring like that,

is just like, Say and I, I think, are both pretty opinionated people. And so obviously some of my opinions, podcasting are about her, and I can see why that bothers her, but she is also as, if not more opinionated than I am. So I can respect that. And it makes good TV. And I hope she knows that like my it's not me.

But Haiti, Haiti, Haiti, it's just me throwing out opinions. And I actually saw her again last night. I was like, you know, she said like, she's like, you know, if you didn't have opinions, podcasts are boring if you don't have opinions. But wait, can I talk about the part that I feel like I know you, me, and say would agree on after the tribe merges, first of all, I want to yell at Star real quick because the the the note said, read this with everybody's together. Star was like, come on, y'all.

And just opened it. I was like, OK, I love it. And essentially it was like there is a reward for the next challenge on this island. Find it. Everybody goes crazy. I also just want to say I feel like it's a manufactured moment, take it back to Kageon when the idol was back in play and everyone was scrambling, even Morgan,

like Tony said, got out the shelter and I feel like the fans loved it. That's when Wu was doing his back flips and running around. And I feel like since then, they've always tried to create that moment. And I feel like this was just another time of an homage to Kageyan. However-

It only takes a few minutes of screen time and we did get a good moment out of it. So I don't hate it. But to you, back to you. Okay, well, Jack said a good moment. So I'd like to say that we would agree that Sego's off on a path. Charity finds her.

Charity sees it. Charity starts running for it. And all of a sudden say like she was running track and jumping over hurdles. Like Jack, the way I rewatch that moment six times, because I kept trying to see where she was like, they come in on the frame. I don't know where the f*** say came in. She just said, wrote.

And like, I was like, ah! And in my mind, I said, I know Jack. I'm gonna F with that moment of sad. Oh, of course. I mean, yeah, like, how can you not? That was awesome. Like the editing was fantastic.

You gotta give Say credit to like going and getting that advantage. Yeah, there's no, if anyone's hating on that moment, they're just a hater and I'm not a hater. So yeah, that moment was awesome. That editing was so cool. Like you said, especially her wearing all green just pops out the bushes. She was camouflaged.

And you think Cherry is about to get it and Say just like doinks it out. It's kind of a metaphor for what happens later in the episode, right? Like we think say is about to go or we think charities about it. Yeah, we think say is about to go charity. We say psych, you know, say, say charity on. So absolutely. OK, so here's another direction I want to go in. Yeah, can we talk Kyle for a second? Yeah.

Before I say what I want to say about Kyle, I do just want to put out the facts. Kyle has finagled, not finagled, Kyle has put himself in a great position. He has multiple alliances that he is working with. My favorite is him and Camilla, but he also has Eva, he's got Joe, he's got Shaheen, he's got David. And I feel like this is a great episode for Kyle.

We actually get to see Kyle maneuvering, making moves, doing his thing. But I rewound, rewinded, but you can say reround, right? Or how? Rewound, I guess. Rewound this part three times and I cannot get the clarity. So hopefully you know, and if we are wrong,

if you could let me know in the comments, after Kyle kind of solidifies that he's playing hand on the Bible, playing an honest game. Shaheen, David, Eva, Joe, I love you. Then he also then he in this moment he talks about Camilla. And I again, I rewound this part three times. In that monologue while he's talking to Camilla, does he say that like he's not going to share

the information about that alliance with Camilla? Do you know? Like, do you, like, I couldn't remember because like- I don't know if I really taught that. Okay, somebody in the comments, let me know, because like. I think two things about it, one, and that's how he's feeling. I'm like, OK, Kyle's clocked in more than I gave him credit, and I love it. The other part of me is if he's not cluing in Camilla,

that makes me look at him a little sideways of like, how you playing us loyal, honest game? And I feel like, yes, Joe, David, Eva and Shaheen are great, but Camilla been the loyalist one held you down. And so I think that like, and she's made the best plays for you. So you would want to include her, the mom. You did kind of see when he was being pitched on this,

this alliance of like loyalty and integrity that he wasn't fully on board with that. You know, it seems like he still had some roots with Camilla, with Mitch. Now, the question of whether he tells her or not, I'm not exactly sure. But to your point, like he isn't necessarily 100 percent trying to play this loyal, honest game. He's not fully trying to play with these loyal, honest people, but with that being said, he's not necessarily gonna tell everybody that he's not, you know what I mean?

Like he's not. Right, and that's what makes me love him, but that's what makes me mad at him at the same time, if that is the case, because it's like, bae-bae. Like I think he is loyal to Camilla, but because he's not trying to be loyal, like because he's not 100% loyal and integrity. He might keep a couple of things to himself.

I get that. But I also feel like I bet he's going to clue her in. I bet. I hope so. Because I saw in the preview for the next episode, you know, I don't watch the previews West Coast, West Coast. Keep it cute. You know, I don't watch the previews, West Coast, West Coast, keep it cute. You know, I don't watch the previews. The previews are scary game. But he basically was like. He was basically like.

Time zone is fair game, but pop off. I don't want to get into that. When he was like me in the previews, like me and Camilla, like the stealthiest duo to ever play this game. So I know he's locked in with her. So do I. But I don't mind locked in with her. How do I? But I don't mind it right. Like sometimes if you get pulled into a different alliance,

let it simmer for a minute, see where everybody's at, see if it's legitimate. Like, cause you, like we probably don't see 90% of the alliances that are being formed. If I, every time I get pulled into an alliance, I run over to Camilla and I'm like, Camilla, like you're kind of giving up some of your own agency, you know, so you got to function a little bit and feel things out for yourself. You can't just like report, report for duty

every time. You're absolutely right. Even though if it is true, it make me mad at the same time and make me tip my hat off. And again, I'm like, Kyle's locked in. And again, I feel like Kyle potentially could be a dark horse of this season. And I say that only because other people like Camilla, Eva, Joe, David, Shaheen, we've seen the rise of their arc, right? So it's not necessarily a dark horse, but a Kyle,

I feel like we'd be like, well, where the hell did that come from? I feel pretty, I've been pretty high on Kyle. I mean, obviously I'm a Kyle fan, but even his game, like since he and Camilla like teamed up, made that great move, I'm on the wave of Kyle or Camilla, I think, if I had to bet. Yeah, I am.

You know, I'm not a gambler, but. I do, I feel that, but again, I might be a little more Camilla than a Kyle, right? But this is, again, what I will say is that I feel like Camilla might have the brains of it all, but I feel like what I got from this episode, and please be clear of what I'm saying, and this is a compliment to Kyle is that like, I'm like, wow, maybe Kyle might be able to execute it. Right?

You know what I'm like. That makes me feel validated because I know when Tom has got voted out, you were very high on Camilla and didn't want to give Kyle as many flowers, which is okay. I liked that you had that. And definitely that move was like spirited by Camilla.

But I was like, I feel like Kyle, we talked about the Al U, like he was still, I think maybe I saw a little bit more in Kyle at that point. But now I know that you're seeing that too. And so again- I see it in a different way, right? Yeah. Camilla's still, that's why I think those two is like,

they're one A and one B. Absolutely. I definitely can, again, I'm going to say ten toes down, Camilla is running it. However, sometimes you can run the operation, but someone can run the same operation, but pitch it to someone else and they'll receive it. And so like, I was looking at Kyle Kyle like that again, the connections that he's making the way he's running around. Awesome.

Well, that's a great point. And also like, even if Kyle is, you know, if Camilla is the, the CEO and Kyle's the CFO, sometimes the CEO might get fired and the CFO steps up and Kyle's shown that he can do the job. So, you know, sometimes there's duos where the head goes and then the other person, they can't step up and execute and finish the job and win. But I think we know that Kyle or Camilla, if God forbid we lose one, the other is still going to be able to operate, I think. I mean, yeah. If God forbid we lose one, the other is still going to be able to operate, I think. I mean, yeah. And two more things.

I took a little notice with Kyle with his shirt off. Are the britches moist? I wasn't sure if the britches were moist or not. Also, when I think about this Kyle and Camilla duo, it then made me think, Jesse and Cody. Like just, cause they've been just piping us up of so much of like, oh, we're the duo that we've never seen.

And again, like you just said, both of us can do the job. And at some point in time, there can only be one head chef in the kitchen. And so I just wonder, is that foreshadowing? And dare I say, whoever gets the best of out of that too, if it isn't a situation, they would have my full support because I am seeing it a little different. Yeah, I do. Okay.

Can we can we. And Kyle want immunity too. I mean, and listen, Kyle is showing out that he can do the damn thing. Like him winning immunity right now, super big. And normally I'll be like, oh, it's too much of a spotlight, it's too much. But the way that he has positioned himself, because even him with a David, a Eva, a Shaheen,

he's not, in my opinion, any of their number ones, right? So it's like him winning this really kind of like eases him into that alliance without the biggest threat. So no, shout out to Kyle. Right. So I want to throw out this idea too and get your thoughts on a little bit. I think a lot of times for, you know, the athletic, visibly athletic guy like Kyle, I don't always love the idea of winning too many challenges early in the merge. Now, right now it's only been one, but we saw it. I mean, dare I say we

saw it last season with Kyle, Kyle won a bunch and then that's a big target. But what I think I've really started to think, I think of all the early merge challenges to win, this is actually the best one because two reasons, I mean one, maybe it's not even a specific gameplay related thing, it basically gets you to the jury. And I think obviously making the jury just in general is a huge feat. So it's like, you might as well.

Sorry. But it's like, you know, you're right there. Might as well get a win to secure it. Once you're on the jury, it's like, right. Right. If you're 11th or your 10th, like whatever. But on the jury, off the jury, a bigger difference. Just for like the, you know, the person to experience that. Jack, give me a second, because my phone is ringing. Hey.

My phone is ringing. Wendell. From the elevator. Well, listen, he's not, listen, he's not even saying anything, Jack. You don't even got to say nothing, Wendell. Okay, it's classic Wendell. Classic Wendell. I don't even know where my room is.

It's okay. We're just going to mute you and then when you get situated, jump in and it'll be like regular survival. Maybe we could finish this thoughtbrite and then take a pause and then pick it back up and Wendell comes in. Or he could stay muted like he always be. So no, go ahead, Jack. this thought brice and then take a pause and then pick it back up and Wendell comes in. Or he could stay muted like he always be. So no, go ahead, Jack. Well, yeah, I was going to say the other reason I like this a lot and maybe this is why I

want your thoughts. Maybe this isn't true. I feel like maybe winning that first merge challenge being safe. Now every now there's 12 other names being tossed around and your name's not one of them. Maybe that puts in the back of people's minds like they're just not thinking about you. So then when you're not safe the next time well they've already thrown out five other names that are probably gonna stick a little bit more. So maybe just getting one right at the beginning people people know they can't vote for you. That settles into their minds. Like, oh, we can't vote for Kyle.

Next time he might not win, but they haven't even been thinking about Kyle. And Jack, let's put a pin in that because it ties into my next point that I want to say, because I want to ease on down the road to charity. Let's talk charity for a second, right? Here's what I want to say about charity. What she was putting down this episode about Eva.

I wasn't mad at. Now, mind you, I love... Hear me out. In the beginning, what charity was like, Eva has idol. Like she had that relationship. We got to break it up. Like charity clocks it. So to say, like they both clock.

They both are saying what no one wants to say. The issue is the timing, right? Like, and so I again, I'm following what charity is saying on the island. We ain't talking Twitter because you know, that's different. But what I am saying is like. Charity's clocked in, right? Like again, she clocked some things, but we also kind of saw her pull it back a little bit. And we also saw Say, right? Like, again, very similar. Like, we saw Say saying Eva, and Say kind of felt like she was on the old greed tribe trying to, like, put out Eva. And then Mother Mary.

Let's talk about your friend, Mary. We don't want to put words in her mouth. But the way Mary ate down this episode, because we see, say, not wanting to talk to Cedric, then they worked it out. Then they merge and or kind of merge, but not really merging. And then say, it's like, I'm so happy to see Mary. We got to that confessional and Mary was like, I don't want nothing to do with mother,

get green out my face. I can't trust Say. Like I was just like, oh. And again, I just want to give some credit to Mary because sometimes like Taylor Swift said, you got to shake them off, right? Like, and I think Mary, similar to Kyle, is in another great position.

Yeah. You threw out a few different things there. Yeah, I generally agree with all of them. And now we got Wendell settling in too, You threw out a few different things there. Yeah. Right. I generally agree with all of them. And now we got Wendell settling in too, so he can chime in on this as well. I'll take it to the charity thing. Okay. That's the thing.

Like, I think the Eva has talked about how she's not necessarily great at reading social situations. The irony, I think, of this episode is that the biggest social misread was charity and also a little bit say where were they right that Eva and Joe and Eva is a threat? Like, absolutely. But literally the day after Eva has this moment with Joe and comes clean about this really beautiful story that she's opens up and shares, the day after when you all get together, it's not the day to bring that up, right? That is really the issue that they both mess up.

Were they right? Yes, of course Eva's a threat, but it's the final 13. Just have a human moment and just acknowledge it and then understand that everybody else who's being a little bit more empathetic is probably not going to want to target her first. So that's really the issue. And I think you kind of hit the nail on the head, Bryce, with where Cherry was coming from. Charity is such a curious sort of thing here because like we saw a lot of players speaking kind of negatively about her,

but there wasn't that many times like watching the show that she seemed that negative. Now, if you follow her socials or have seen some bits and pieces, maybe that explains some things, I don't know, but it's a little bit weird. It's like, why did all these players not like Charity? We never really saw it.

We saw she had a really great relationship with Mitch and was very supportive of Mitch. So I don't really know. But yeah, it doesn't shock me. We also saw that, I think she thought she had a lot more footing in the game than she did. And it's hard to know that she did it for her because she never went to tribal. So I guess it's like, OK, she thinks she has good trust with people. And there hasn't been an opportunity for them to not for her to not

necessarily believe that. But it's just like, you know, her going to star and being like, you got to get your idol back. Like, that's a that's a that's a big that's an overstep. You know that things like that. It's not. But it is. It's not. But it is. Right. But it's just she's not the person in the position of be telling other people what to do.

Right. OK. She's not wrong. But like, you don't come to me or even her being like, I think she said it's one of the episodes like, oh, I got Siva on lock. Like when she was talking to like some lobby people or whatever, she's like, oh, I can easily get all these people. It's like, again, I guess she doesn't know that she hasn't,

like they've told her they're with her, but it's just a little bit, she got too many eggs in her own basket, you know? So, I think that- You brought up an interesting point, Jack. And now that Wendyzy is clocked back in, welcome Wendyzy, you wanna just, cause I wanna bring something to the head,

but before that, how you feeling? How you doing? Welcome, welcome, welcome. It's been a long day, man. It's been a long day, but we here. It's good to be here. I am in Orlando. I just checked in. I got my snacks.

Also, Jack, can you help me understand why if you win a million dollars at some point in your said life, you know, I'm third boot. If you book a flight, sometimes paying that extra $25 to protect your flight, it's not frugal, it's logical. I see, I get. Those are always. I get flight protection every time, what do you mean?

So how do you have, okay, explain to us how you have flight protection, but you're in Orlando and I'm in Philadelphia. Cause I had a layover. It's a layover for $400, Bryce. Wow. Cause I had a layover. And cause of mother nature.

No, they probably rebooked you for free, right Wendell? Yeah. I mean, yeah, you get flight protection that doesn't just mean a new flight suddenly appears. Yes. Classic Wendell. You know what? We're not doing that right now.

Flight protection I think is a scam by the way, I'll say that's totally off the track. Disputed though. If your flight gets canceled and you don't have flight protection, they still rebook you for free. So thank you. That's why I don't ever get flight protection. Well, yeah, I did.

I did. It's like, but it's not because I was able to rebook and I was able to get all of my money back from my round trip, not just the portion of my trip. Oh. Which, again, is why I'm in Philadelphia. This isn't about me right now. Okay, but no, but also, since you have clocked in, Wendell, I did start the episode off singing your praises.

Jack, am I lying? Not lying. About what? No, Jack, am I lying? Not lying. About what? No, Jack, don't tell them. No, Jack, don't tell them. You'll have to get in the comments. Like, where's this? I watch it every week.

OK, now, wait. Since Wendell was here, and this is something that y'all started. And Jack brought it up a little bit, I do have a nomination for our first ever Britches. I have one too, is it gonna be the same one as I had? I don't know, cause I think, well, and maybe Wendell will have a Britches award as well.

A Britchie. Britchie, sorry. Can I go, is it okay? Iitchie. Britchie, sorry. Can I go? Is it okay? I don't want to talk over you, Jack. Yeah. Okay. You know, they be in the comments cussing me out.

My Britchie Award this week goes to Star. Yes. Oh, wait, are we on the same page, Jack? Yeah, yeah. Ah! Jack hit me over the head with some meat. What? Whoa! Sorry.

Sorry. Bryce came out his first britchie and he got a little brickie. Bro, sorry. I'm so excited. I thought you were in my meat shield. No, I, okay. Yes, sorry.

The Godfather, Godfather Cedric had a tough week. However, every villain has a kryptonite. You watch the HBO, the Penguin, like we know the Penguin, okay? Uncle Ceddy. Hates to see a wall coming. Okay. Okay.

Uncle, Uncle said he, he might handle the tush, but he does not. He's not from Philly. Because he does not. What does he handle the tush? He's a cult.illy. Because he does not. What is he handling? Push. He's a colt. Yes.

Uncle said he handles the tush, but uncle said he is not from Philly and doesn't know the tush push. Uncle said he can't use his arms and his feet at the same time, but listen, that's okay. We all have our kryptonite. Wendell is sheep, okay? I'm a hothead.

Okay. Jack. A lot of things. A lot of things. However, we see this emotional moment with said, which touched a lot of us, but it was star for me. It was the way that on so many different levels, Star being a human, Star being a black woman, seeing a black man and said, no, no, no, sir, what we are not going to do,

pick your head up, put your crown on and empowering Setti and saying like, I see him. At the same MF in time, let's be clear, Star's playing the game. Star knows where Tribe she came from. Star's like, I need to open my forest. I need to like plant new seeds. Also, that's not the only thing Star did.

Charity came to Star, clearly that's a relationship that was there, and Charity said, girl, get your idol back, and Star said, girl, get your idol back. And Star said, you know what? You right. You know what? Charity, I'ma go get it back. Be right back.

BRB. I mean, Star with a running. That was a shooing Star. Okay, that was a shooing Star. A comet. Okay, that was a shoe and star. A comment. Okay, I'll comment. Star said, Eva, come here real quick, girl. Listen, I don't got time to play, but just know I'm not lying.

Okay, so, you know, I ain't lying. Charity said your name. And again, building trust. In the same person that, like, she's built trust with the idol, giving her the idol, but also we see what star giving the idol to Eva has done. Right. Like the the multitude of layers of stars game coming together. And then the icing on the MF and Kate, I don't know when they were at the,

when they were at the feast, this was icing on the cake. And they were telling people, now this is also where I wanted to cut Star out at. Like you doing too much, but I'm gonna let you live. When they said, y' know, Eva got the idol star had the goddamn nerve to say. What's news to me? Girl, that's your eye.

I didn't notice that. I didn't notice that either I didn't notice that either. Please. I agree. Yeah, the stars has been leading with such authenticity that feels so genuine that it is opening up doors for it, because how can you not be out there and like want to hang out and get along with star? And it feels like if you need a laugh, Star's there.

If you need someone to lift you up, pick your chin up, Star's there. And Star's also showing a little bit of strategy coming through. So it's really, that's just what I love about Star. And that's why I was also gonna suggest a britchie for Star. But Wendell, you just got in, so give us your thoughts about this,

but just like general, but just like general big takeaways. We haven't talked too much about tribal, but we've talked a little bit about like where charity might've gone wrong, and we talked about just the merge-atory in general. So where's your head out with this episode? Yeah, I thought it was I thought it was a good episode.

I was I was excited for my buddy for my buddy Kyle this episode, you know. Yeah, you know, got the job done in epic form against. It was down to him and David, right? And Star and Star, Star was crushing it, too. But the last two was him and David, right? And Star and Star Star was crushing it, too. But the last two was him and David, right? I think it was him and Star and him and Star. That's right. That's right. That's right. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So that was a that was a great challenge.

It was great to see Kyle. If I were giving out the britchie, it would have been. My britchie would have been to Kyle. OK, so listen, listen. the britchy, it would have been, my britchy would have been to Kyle. Okay. So listen, listen, sometimes the britchy gets moist, okay? And it's not just, you know. Now we're not giving britchy moistness to other people. It's one britchy in an episode, right?

It's multiple thoughts. Do we have to, maybe the way we do our britchy is that we each, you know, have our britchie of the week and the britchie is only really given if it all, if we're all unanimous. And that's the sanctity of the britchie. I have a proposal. Sure. A what?

A proposal. Okay. Because these are Bryce's britches. Our britches don't get wet. Jack, they did. Well, because they're Bryce's britches. So, OK, I'm out. Time out now.

May I finish? No, no, no. I'm time out. Time out. Time out. Your britches don't get wet? No. You don't got them Lulu Limit shorts? You don't got them Lulu Limit shorts? No, get out of here. Get out of my britches, bruh. What I'm trying to say is this.

Jack, traditionally you and I don't speak about our britches getting wet. And doesn't mean that they don't. Fair enough. The only proposal I have is that we all throw out there who gets our britchie award, but who has the final say is Bryce Isaiah. Sure. I mean, that works super, but my thinking was like,

we want the britchie to sort of be exclusive. It doesn't have to be every week. So I guess, I guess final say, like you said, it comes down to Bryce, but I don't want us to feel like every week we gotta come to a, a, a britch census, you know? It could be like, it could be like, maybe nobody was britch-tacular this week and we table it for another week.

I don't think it needs to be britch anonymous. I don't, but I think that we think about it. And if Bryce chooses to agree. Okay. Wendell put your right hand out right now. You swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth. So help you, Britchie. I do. I just need a yes or no answer. No, is he sworn in? Yes. Yes or no?

After this day of travel that you have just had, are your britches moist currently? No, I'm not sweating at all. I'm just tired. No, my britches are pristine. He lying. I swear. And I smell really, I smell really good, Bryce.

I smell really good. I can tell by how that shirt. Bryce, I smell good. I got an undershirt. I'm good. You know what? We're not doing this right now. We're not doing, it's not about me.

It's about the britchy recipient right now. Okay, well. We're britch this right now. We're not doing, it's not about me. It's about the Britchie recipient right now. So we're Britchie-ing right now. Okay, is, oh. Well, we say star, again, given, it also makes me reflect on maybe the treatment that star was given early on, kind of like, maybe the treatment that star was given early on, kind of like, because their star shines so bright

that sometimes it's like, it's the easier thing to go after. And I think that we are seeing this now where star does something that I couldn't do, right? Like she's made it to the merge. She's able to like, let her star shine in ways that we don't even think about, right? Like we have David saying like, it's the meat shields. And I'm here for the meat shields, so we're clear. But also like, and David saying,

we're gonna get the smarts, all of the puzzle people out. But also then here comes star in this different category of just like a real-ass human being, right? That like sees, that cares, that knows what it's like to be on the outside. That's like, I don't want that for anybody else. And then using what she knows about say Eva and the Joe,

charity comes and brings her this information and even at tribal, and also Star's funny as hell. That moment of her sitting by the beach being like, Star, we did it. Yes, we did. Take a moment. That, that's what I do every day. Or we could pad at tribal council.

Yes. Dancing up there. That that's what I do. I think I've had a travel counselor. Yeah. Dancing up there again. I I said this about Kyle. I said Kyle has a dark horse arc. I could see stars well. Totally. Does Kyle have a dark horse arc? Yeah, I disagree on that. I feel like he's kind of contender for me.

We talked about that. He looks strong. And that's why I don't think it'll be him. So here's the thing, Kyle looks strong, but he also doesn't like, respectfully, what I'm saying is like, he doesn't look strong. He looks strong, but he doesn't look strong. What does that mean? Yeah, what does that mean? Because they're literally talking about He doesn't look strong. He looks strong, but he doesn't look strong.

What does that mean? Yeah, what does that mean? Because they're literally talking about how strong and handsome he is all over the Twitters. Oh man. I did say before you got here, didn't know if the britches got moist when his shirt was off.

But no, what I'm saying is like, when I see a Joe and I see a David, right? Like those are the immediate threats. It's not a Kyle, not that he's not strong. I'm just saying it's like, he kind of like, you know. Not a big. I think where me and Wendler coming from is that

I get what you're saying about Kyle, but from episode one, he's shown, he's got chops strategically, socially. He's been, he's gotten a lot of confessionals too. I mean, that's a factor of like a dark horse. Whereas Star, I would agree, is a dark horse. She was on the bottom. We didn't see a ton of Star.

And now the Star has just been illuminated. And now it's like, could Star really do this? That's a dark horse for me. Yeah and and stars star star hasn't really been illuminated. Right. It's a little bit to us as the viewers because we're getting to see it but it's like it's yeah. Okay. Was an eclipse.

But Kyle's been like we like from day one Kyle was looked like looked like he was in solid position. Right. Right. So. Okay. I can give you that. Yeah. But let's see. Kyle is almost like a. A more genuine and a more genuine Caleb. OK, because like Caleb, it just it seemed now we know Caleb in real life. He's a great guy. It seemed on the island like he was just, it seemed, now we know Caleb in real life, he's a great guy. It seemed on the island like he was just giving everyone

lip service and just doing the smiling. He's a schmoozer. Yeah, whereas Kyle, it seems like he's not a schmoozer. He is like, he's making these connections. He being real genuine. Yeah. Okay, when you put it like that, I can receive that. Cause I feel like it's like, I almost, I'm like,

I want the Caleb effect, right? But I can't say that and then be like, what is this? Caleb was like so charismatic. It was almost like, it was too big, too much of a threat. Yeah. And I'd almost say in challenges, Caleb was better. And that's also, I guess, a little disarming for a cut like that also helps Kyle be a little more relatable, I think. Maybe

I could be. Maybe I can. Lulu tribe didn't do too well. That's true. They were as bad as you can. Not to say it was Caleb's fault, but. But no, I know what you mean. What else from this episode really stuck out? Now, I will say, I mean, not to get to the end of things, but I thought it was really interesting the way they read the votes. Usually it's, you know, they do a couple.

And then once they, once those say's started coming in, it was like, oh, it's all you know, they do a couple and then once they, once those say's started coming in, it was like, oh, it's all going to be say. But then there's like five say, two charity, one say, and then it's, oh, and then it's back to charity. It's like, whoa. Well, tell me the last time they read 13 votes. I know, but I mean, usually the order would be like,

oh, it's, it's like, say, charity, say, charity. And then at the end it's charity, charity, charity. But this time they went like charity, Sedrick, say, charity, say, charity, say, say, say, and then charity, charity, charity, charity. That was because once those say's started coming in, it was like, say's about to go home. It was done. Good TV.

Yeah, exactly. I loved it. I liked that a lot. I feel like it keeps us on our toes more because we kind of know how that usually hooks things up. Now, here's the last thing I want to say and that's where I want to end it at now. Mine just might be a little spicy because I had to rewatch, because I wanted to see where all the votes went.

And when I saw Cedric's name, I said, who the hell put Ceddie down? And then when I saw that it was my girl, Saya. Yeah, wait till she jumps out. She's gonna explain how it was the best move of all time. Well, I don't think so because I also- Not too much to say. Well, all time? Well, I don't think so, because I also say well, no, because like, I don't think so, because also before this episode came out, they showed the sneak peek of, say, returning to the camp

and like essentially say being like, I'm talking to everybody in the morning, but not you, Cedric and that like and say retweeted and was like, Cedric was right. So I I do think, you know, they did have a come to Jesus, but clearly say has not forgiven SETI at all. She was still happy. But my question was like a site, you know, yeah, I think we're going. I think we're going to say, well, it it a emotional vote or was there some strategy behind it?

That's my question because it's like, and my Cardi B voice with love say, what was the reason? Because you clearly know the votes are between you and charity. So like, I wanna know like, why throw that, You clearly know the both are between you and charity. So like, I wanna know like, why throw that? Like, who were you talking to that said Cedric?

It's what I wanna know. Yeah. It feels like she cooked it up herself. Feels more emotional, but maybe there's a component of like, oh, I wanna separate myself from Cedric, so I'll throw a vote at him. Maybe behind the scenes they said, but it doesn't make sense to me.

Especially when you know you might be in contention, put your vote on the other person. Don't play around, because a split vote could easily be twisted around if charity votes for say and someone switches a vote and say doesn't vote for charity. I agree. I do also just want to say,

cause I do want to know say, what was the reason? Well, you know, your name is on the block. But I also do want to say, out of anybody this whole season, say has been held to the cross this entire, like no one else, like Say has had a time. Like she's been fighting for her life. Yeah.

Battle tested. Every episode. Well, that's why it's so like, that is entertaining. Like nobody's been under fire as much as Say and been able to even like to be able to maneuver out of it as much as she has in recent memory. Like I couldn't really tell you anybody, but that's why I will maintain my stance of like, there are critiques to be made.

Like it's not a great position to be, you know, but we'll see what shapes out. I mean, obviously she could keep it rolling and keep dodge dive, dip, duck, dodge for the rest of the way. And, you know, I'd have to eat my words, but I think just on a baseline, like, right, you don't want to be catching folks every, every tribal. Yeah. Well, needless to say, episode six was crazy. We have merged. Charity has gone home. Wendyzy, give us the final word. The only thing I'll say is this.

It's been a long day. This is a great season. Like lots of it's it's again. We looked at certain cast before and we're like, oh, this look like it has all the characters looking at this cast. We didn't necessarily see a bunch of unicorns out there. We didn't see a bunch of Tevans, you know? But this cast is delivering. And some of the people that you don't think like, I'm here for the Kyle Camilla sneak alliance. I'm so excited to see where that goes. I think she's got some stuff brewing, you know? This is just, it's a great season so far, and I'm excited to see how that dynamic works,

how this strong milk drinking alliance works. And whoa. Can we say two people down a day? That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. I mean, I would say it can't be healthy, but I think Joe and David look a little better than I do,

but that's like a lot of, if you drink that in a couple hours, you'd be sick. So it's like, they really must be regimenting this milk. I didn't think all that milk was healthy. I mean, well, studies have shown cow milk is not really for human consumption. But. It's great. I mean, listen, I ain't mad.

So my final words are these. There are a handful of people that look like winners. There are a few dark horses. This season, I can't wait to see how it shakes out. We're only in episode six, we're halfway through. Okay, how was Chicago? Oh, you know what, Jack? I didn't even get to tell you, Jack.

At one point in the night, okay, Jack, Joey and I, shout out to Joey Hatch because Joey Hatch did his thing in Chicago. Okay. Actually, you know what? Joey and Bryce did they think in Chicago at one point in the night, Jack. Joey and I are breaking things down while people are still moving around. Joey's standing on things, cutting things down. I'm wrapping things up. All of a sudden, we see people were outside.

We see these flashes coming into like the inside. We're like, what's going on? We see Wendell with our flag, our Bryson Wynn flag. I was waving it. I was dancing with it. I was wrapping it up, but I was having a good time, Jack. I was, Jack, so confused I was having a good time. Jack. I was Jack. So we have a good time. I was a flag person at the time. You know, I have a good time in Austin. You

don't want to get me right. Austin is going to be one of those where it's like a mini finale. Hold on real quick. It's crazy. I feel like the Bryce one's already been rolling like heavy and then Bryce was listed off. Like we still got. Look at the footwork. Look at the footwork. Okay. Classic.

Look at the footwork. He did eat that footwork up though. He did. He did eat that footwork up. He did. Oh, he did eat that footwork up. Keep the footwork going. You might get a britchie. Anyway, if, okay, real quick, then we can end it. If moist britchers are a britchy, what is a shhh?

What's a shart? Bryce, we're gonna lose subscribers. You are disgusting. That's what we give to the worst player of the episode. The worst player gets the Shritzy. Who gets the Shritzy today? Congratulations, charity. No, OK. All right. No, no, no. I'm about to give you our short people

going to repose on their story. Like, I want the shard. Thank you to the person that screen grabbed Jack holding his shape butter lotion. Really appreciate it. I was a risky repost from me, but Jack added it to his story. You know, Jack's particular about his stories. Okay. Jack is good for giving you one of these.

It'd be a photo. Okay. And then the capture will be like in the cab trying to figure out why the earth is round, but we're going straight. OK, I'll be living for Jack's captions. OK, you think the IRS gonna fuck with me if I've been a good boy? I've been a good boy. I mean, it's like a question. Jack, you know what?

I find your stories funny. What I mean? I know I know it was a banger when you said me like the sideways crime. If you're not following Jack Atkins, 20,, you need to get into his stories. They are great. And if you want some inspiration and you want some motivation, make sure you're following Wendyzy Holland because he do love to post all the good little captions and the stuff we appreciate.

Well, all right, Wendyzy's tired. Thank you for being able to hop in Wendell. Yes. Thanks for bearing with me. Yes. Okay. Jack got a... Why we got to end so quick Wendell?

Because Jack has somewhere to be. But he said, I got a meeting. No. Oh, there's a meeting. Classic Jack. All right. This has been your Survivor News. We appreciate you.

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