RHAP: We Know Survivor - Purple Pants Podcast | Sanctuary Secrets

Episode Date: October 18, 2024

The baby boys are back with your weekly dose of Survivor action! Hosts @BriceIzyah, @WendellHolland, and @JackAtkins21 dive into Episode 5, where we dissect Rome’s evolving role in the tribe, explore the new twist involving the sanctuary, and recap the latest immunity challenge. Tensions rise as the ‘Breadwinners’ alliance begins to crumble, leading to unexpected shifts in strategy and power dynamics. Tune in for all the drama, strategy, and insights from this exciting episode!

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Survivor News Survivor News Survivor News Survivor News What's going on and Survivor News. Survivor News. Dot, dot, dot. What's going on? And welcome back to the Purple Pants Podcast, Survivor News of Survivor Season 47, Episode 5. The baby boys are back, back, back again. I'm super excited to be joined by the new co-host of Extreme Home. Damn. You know what? Because I always say it wrong. Say it.

Extreme Makeover Home Edition. One of the hosts, Mr. Wendeezy Holland, but you might recognize him more familiar from the first merged boot of Winners at War. I don't even recognize him because he got these braids in. He thinks he's crispity fresh.

Neighborhood Nip. He has an important message to vote. Welcome back to the podcast, Winn Deasy. What's up, Perp? What's up, Jack? Great to be back. Fresh off of our hat. Yes, we just spent last week with this man getting a ride from Shuby,

but we are back, the man, the myth, the legend, the Jackery to the Atkins. How are you feeling? I'm good. I'm out of town. I'm over in Texas this week and it's been a real busy week. So it was just great last night. It was the first time this season I watched the episode by myself, ordered some food, got cozy in my hotel and just watched it. No commercials, which was nice. It was a really good experience.

So I'm really excited to talk about it. I've been looking forward to it all day. Yeah. Well, we also, I feel like earlier in the podcast or earlier episodes, you talked about your sir, your crew that you watch Survivor with. And it took me all of six seconds to be around people to crack the code. FYI, Jackery,

Jack sometimes watches survivor with my sister, wife, Amanda, Austin. Yeah. Zach. Yeah. It's a great LA squad.

And yeah, it's, it's not, I love, you know, getting together with people to watch is always a great time, but there's something about watching it alone. That kind of brings me back to like when I first discovered it in high school. And you're just locked in it kind of transports you to this other world. You know what I mean? So don't get me wrong, you're gonna catch me with the crew in LA most weeks. But it was just kind of fun to just after a busy day, settle in. Had a big poker win last night, so came home from the poker win, showered up, did a little bit of work, and then treated myself

with a nice episode of Survivor and a chicken sandwich. How romantic. Jack, I have a question. What's up? As far as you watching it, i understand you like making it all romantic candlelight and all it's a classic line watching survivor by yourself but what's it like watching it with the the la crew what's that what are those vibes because you said it's fun and you're locked in when you're by yourself it's nostalgic but what's it like out there with this with this group

it's been good and sometimes we'll go, you know, there's a weekly watch party in LA at Third Base where you guys actually host. I've only been to one of those so far this season. I think I went to one last season, but that's nice. It's anyone's welcome to go, so if you're in the LA area, that's a good time. Watching with the crew, it's really

fun, and you get some cool insight as the episode progresses. But everyone, too, is pretty respectful. When the episode progresses and but everyone too is pretty respectful like when the episode's on we try to keep it quiet keep it cute and watch and then during the commercials you know we'll talk a little bit

so it's a really cool viewing experience I had one I've got a question do you want to do yours first or can I ask this follow up let me do mine first alright alright are you massaging your feet no I was putting some

lotion on okay I'm like why is he sifting from side to side I'm just putting lotion on my legs now back to Jackery that was a guilty laugh.

Just putting lotion on my head. I got a lotion in my ankles, you know what I'm saying? So, back to Jackery. Come on, man. I was having a real conversation with my man. Okay. You hit that ball

on your foot just now, didn't you? I hate y'all. They're really soft today. Okay, Jack. What's up? I'm not big into Twitch streaming, but I'm thinking you got a cool crew and y'all have your dialogue.

Would Survivor be something that like you like could watch and stream or something jack who's gonna tell them jack papa papa just learned what twitch was yesterday now he's asking you about twitching no i don't know i'm not i'm not an expert it's like i don't know if you'd be allowed to stream the show over like i don't know if that would be allowed to stream the show over. Like, I don't know if that would be a copyright thing, but that could, that could be fun. But I kind of feel like, you know, I'd be the type where if it happens, I'm into it, but I'm not going to be the one to set it up.

Cause it's just a lot of moving pieces, a lot of moving parts. I'm trying to focus on Fiji. You know what I mean? So I'm not worried about, I don't want to be too, too worried about, but I know Brando, we watch with Brando Meyer a lot. He streams a lot. And maybe he could be the guy to get it going. I just thought that like,

if you have the right group of like alum, alumni watching while they dialogue, I feel like that would be something people might want to see. I don't know. Why you can't just do it by yourself? A lot of big Twitchers stream by

themselves. I stand down. Why don't you do it by yourself, Bryce? I actually might. Let us know in the comments if I should be Twitching. But if you don't want to be like Jack this week and watch Survivor alone, you do know the BWP Tour 47.

We were on hiatus this week, but we are hitting the road next week. We are headed to Nashville, October 23rd. After Nashville, we are taking a boat to the NOLA baby. So we'll be in New Orleans, October 30th. After that, we are heading to Chicago. be in New Orleans, October 30th. After that, we are heading to Chicago. From Chicago, we are headed to

Philadelphia, Washington, D.C., Boston, and the grand finale. Boston, D.C., New York. Yes, and a little birdie told me that the tickets for the finale will be on sale probably when this episode is available, so please

check the link in the bryson one present instagram and twitter bio uh and bless your life but yeah we had a off week this week and we went to new york to watch or to go and be a part of the r hat live show which was so fun and amazing it's been a while uh being on tour sometimes know, our dates conflict, but our dates aligned. And it was so much fun to be in the Arhat building. We got an Uber with Bruce and

baby, Bruce was Bruce-ing. I was in... Was that an Uber? No, that was Bruce's niece, but I mean? No that was Bruce's niece but I mean Don't disrespect Bruce's niece No Yeah I was like wait she was too familiar

now but I was in the trunk and this is it's an SUV but it's one of them crossover SUVs so the trunk is small I manned up Jack, this is not, it's an SUV, but it's one of them crossover SUVs. So the trunk is small. You just. I manned up.

I thought it was a good idea as opposed to just walking the 20 minutes. But little did I know, little did I remember how claustrophobic I am. So I'm back there. And then I started thinking about this thing I watched on YouTube. Mr. Beast. He like, he paid someone. He he said if you make it buried alive in a coffin with like obviously a light in underground it's a little bigger than a coffin for 24 hours you get paid 750 000 and so you channeled that and powered through well first of all that's a crazy it's crazy in and of itself because they don't give you a timer. You do crazy stuff.

I don't, what are you, all of a sudden you're talking about Twitch and Mr. Beast. Who even, is your son starting to watch some YouTube? Anyway, but anyway, so I'm in the back of this, of Bruce's trunk and I'm thinking about that guy

that was buried alive for $750 750k and I'm starting to get mad claustrophobic and change my poses at the end of the trip my sneakers are off because I'm like I'm gonna find more space somehow some way but I managed to get through how and how was the live event I saw you guys were on stage as always i'm i'm curious like because i feel like they always prompt with some specific questions what was kind of the topic of conversation that they hit you guys with um well i think ours was lavu but you know listen they hit me with a prompt but listen i had to talk about chickens so he's a master of the pivot uh but you know it was so much fun like uh and shout out to you know rob sesternino and the arhat family it was great to be there uh of course there was a lot of 47s

in attendance and so it was great to like meet the family uh and you know they are fans of the podcast they posse members so it was really great and shout out to all the posse members. So it was really great. And shout out to all the posse members that came up to say hello. We appreciate you. It was so much fun. Truly. It was like a really great night. Awesome. But I mean, we got some things to get into, Jackery. Oh, yeah. Let's let's dive in. I mean, there's there's a few like major, you know, talking points in this episode. And for the sake of time, I think we just dive into some of them, and then we can circle back on some of the more, some of the minutia of the episode. But I guess let's talk about early on, we get this reward challenge with a brand new twist. And it kind of led the cast and us, I feel like, to believe that maybe there's a swap going down.

But instead, it's this temporary reward challenge where they're breaking the two teams and they compete as a group to win this Survivor Social Hour with this group, and then they all kind of go back their separate ways.

And we can get into the nitty gritty of it, but I just want to know, what did you guys think about this twist? It's something we haven't really seen before. I loved it. I thought the twist was great. I think mixing these people up,

I feel like they've been doing it little by little with the journeys and people, talking with people, and essentially a chance to swap stories. Is she or he or them telling me the truth? I thought it was great. I loved it. And I mean, whoever thought of it, it paid off because the, what is it?

The game of telephone, because the game of telephone was carrying. I was a little disappointed or not disappointed. I was kind of mad at my sis Tiana a little bit because I'm like, Tiana, girl, what is you doing? And for me, seeing Tiana just put Gabe out there, two questions came to my mind. Is Sue in, what's Sue's daughter? Not Rachel? Caroline.

Is Tiana not as close to them as she thinks? Or is Sue and Caroline doing a great job at hiding the fact that Gabe is their number one? I think they're doing a great job at that. And I think Tiana isn't as close as she thinks she is. Yeah. Go ahead, Mandela. Broad strokes, I just think that this is a cool challenge, like a cool idea for a challenge to mix things up.

I also think that, how did they pick the teams? You want to talk about it? Blind swap across all the groups, I think. Oh, okay. The intern got fired because it was a mix-up of all the different people. You know I've been highly critical of when Jack just hands them things on the tray. Sometimes the interns forget to mix them up and you get the same tribes together. When you put your hand in the bag and wiggle up and you get the same tribes together when they when you

put your hand in the bag and wiggle around you get mixed up um another great thing to see well not a great thing to see a little all over the place was we've seen the lows of raw it's the worst day ever i've got nothing to eat oh it's the worst day on spot oh rome was pissed he reminds me of beau my nephew like he when's, when he's on a high, he's on a high, but when he's on a low, he's on a low. And it's, it's, and they're almost similar in build. How old is Bo? Rob, nah, Rob gave me permission to talk my trash on him. Nah, nah, nah. Rob, I love you.

But it's like... How old is Bo? He's growing. Nine. Nine? And I think Bo's a little taller, too. Just by a smidge. Right? Not too much.

Rome is taller than Bo. But that being said, yo yo kudos to casting if you can find someone that has this range of emotions and like I love watching this I just I love it um don't do that another another another interesting move that I thought was when they brought up that Sam and Sierra were so close and instantly Sam's like I killed it no no

who I don't even know like she's on your tribe with you oh Sierra oh I thought her name was Maya. Like, I understand him distancing himself, but I also felt like

to be like, we barely talked. For me, it's like, okay, that's just confirming that y'all, in my opinion, it's confirming that y'all talked. I just kind of felt like you're putting the target even more on yourself. Yeah, the thing that surprised me, and you guys touched on a lot of the different major things that happened here, is just kind of like how messy people got, right?

Because to me, it's like anything you say here is going to get back to the other tribes or your own tribe or your own tribe through your other tribe mates or at the latest at the merge. Everyone's going to be talking. So I thought the most blatant error was Tiana just like throwing Gabe under the bus when literally everyone else in her tribe other than Gabe was there. So it's like even if she thinks she's close to people, you've got to know if it's not your own tribe, it's going to be the other tribe that goes and tells gabe like yo tiana was uh talking all sorts of smack about you um and then sue i also thought like it was a little bit more minor with the sam and sierra thing but if i was out there with you guys i wouldn't be like rice i heard you and wendell are running the show like you're like yeah it's like it puts you it puts you on the defense i don't want to be putting anyone i would just be hanging out picking up on info teeny stealing all sorts of info um it

just felt like people were really excited like trying to give up a lot of information when you know you could you have to kind of go into that knowing like what you're gonna say and what you're not gonna say um and it's just i i didn't i thought teeny giving up a lot of info was actually good but just with with tiana i thought struggled a little bit uh sue i didn't think that little bit was great for sue uh and like you said sam didn't defend it super duper well um but yeah just a lot of like interesting moving pieces and also kind of cool seeing you know some people go play cornhole and some oh no i can talk um i got triggered from that jack

it took me back to my solana days and jeremiah jeffrey and lj and alexis wanting to play cornhole all day you want to play cornhole i? I wasn't a fan of that. One liberal teen versus twenty-two. But mind you, Jack, what was what did they eat? What did they get, chicken? It was like a single hot dog with no condiment.

Oh my God. Don't the young kids call them a glizzy? Yeah, they were glizzy goblins. Do you glizzy gobble, Jack? I've been known to. Okay. Do you glizzy gobble? Absolutely not. Oh my God. oh my god i don't know who that is so jack this is another thing that sometimes i don't get

with y'all straight men wendell and joey got glizzies in my shoe. Of course, I'm in the backseat like, oh! Wendell had to get out the car to eat the glizzy. He didn't want to eat it. Pull that picture back up. For the audio listeners, Bryce just pulled up a photo he took. He snuck

a photo of Wendell just going with town on a glizzy. Would you call Wendell just going to town on a glizzy. Would you call Wendell a glizzy cobbler from this photo? He's a glizzy gladiator. Well, yeah, isn't it like a thing?

You gotta... Yeah, I guess, Bryce, you touched on it. Straight guys, they think it's like sus if they eat a hot dog. But then I think the more sus you're trying to be the more secret you're trying to be about it that's like, what makes it for me it's just like

take a small bite, you're not going to get caught doing anything too crazy you're not going to eat it all in one bite I'd hate to see Wendell go to town on some corn okay thanks Bryce I'd hate to see Wendell go to town on some corn, okay? Thanks, Bryce.

Corn is the issue, by the way. Bryce, you guys, like, why didn't they give us some ketchup and mustard? Right. And just one hot dog? That's what I'm saying. Like, a raw dog in the glizzy. Oh, God. Yeah. But shout out to Kyle, because he's a vegetarian he had a veggie burger or veggie doggy um so yeah that was exciting it was a fun it was a fun reward

it was a nice a nice twist especially with the 90 minute episodes we've seen a lot of the camp life which has been really fun but this was like a nice way to kind of spice up the episode a little bit um and yeah i also thought to the tiana point it was really when she went back to camp carolina i thought did a good job of trying to play like like trying to keep people together she's she anticipates a merge uh and sort of tips like tips uh tiana off that okay like maybe gabe knows like you should try to go clear this up. And then Tiana kind of doubles down and just lies about things that everyone else is going to back up. And so it's just, yeah.

But again, for me, Jack, that speaks to the level of which Tiana trusts Sue and trusts Geneva, Caroline, because it's like, I get these names mixed up, right? Because it's like, when Caroline brought that to her, I think she spun it to her like, girl, if we make the merge, just gonna come out. So let's kind of like protect this. Her's just going to come out.

So let's kind of like protect this. And so the fact that Tiana lied to Gabe again, and not only like, he doesn't need to wait to the merge. He can fact check with Caroline or he can like that for me. That's like, wow. Caroline is, she's in a good position. And it's like the fact that she's forward thinking of like, listen, no matter what is going on with these people I need for us to get together

and be merged strong I also was cracking up at Gabe being like yeah I just gave her the uh huh and then in a moment he's like uh huh the okay okay yeah yeah

like I was like again we said it before Gabe has practiced these lines and if that is not the proof is in the pudding but is that when you're talking

to someone so like it's so clearly you're like uh-huh okay yeah uh-huh uh-huh okay

I'm talking about my favorite Gabe confession so far shut up he's great at them Jack The things that he says Nah he'd be like I want to crush their

These things that he says I think he's great at confessionals But to Bryce That's the thing to me is very premeditated Like you know he was practicing that at home Whereas the one of him recapping His conversation that was a little bit more In the moment genuine you can't practice that like um i'm sorry agreed i you're right right you're right so that was a good off the cuff one but my question is again when you're

there in the moment just giving her the ahas and stuff do y'all think that Tiana is receiving that like, dang, like, I'm not landing this one, right? Like, how do you think it's true? Normally I would say yes, but I also felt like Tiana's apology was so insincere that like, she didn't really care what he was saying. Yeah. It seemed to me like she kind of was, like, thought it was genuine, you know?

But that's like when you're stuck in a conversation with someone and you don't care and you just throw like the same answers on. You're like, damn, that's crazy. You're like, wow. Girl.

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maybe if it's not a gabe maybe if it's someone that might be more receptive to apology. I think Gabe is like just trying to be this super villainous type of like, and I love it. As a character, I love it. It's almost like a cartoon villain, if you ask me. But I think that, and if someone is onto your, whatever you said, snitch on him or whatever in this game, do you think there's a world where apologies would be received properly?

Absolutely. Cause at first I was like, Oh, that's a good idea. She going to go piece it up. But yeah, but it's the order in which the events happen. If the apology comes as soon as they come back,

not after he's been told by multiple people. And the fact-checking after. Like, if Tiana had come clean and really, like, put it all out there and kind of acted like, okay, she was going to maybe do that anyway, she didn't find the right moment, and then she tells him the truth, like, I think he would have been more receptive.

But it seemed like to him, he was like, well, he goes to Sue, and she's like, well, none of that's true, and he's like, well, that's the worst apology ever. He just lied to me more. Like, um, yeah. But kudos to Gabe for locking in Sue, because that was his best acquisition, or that's the best

relationship that I have seen pre-merge, dare I say, new era. That's a lot. That's a lot. That's a hot take, but... That's aggressive. Sue is loyal. Tell me who's more loyal than Sue.

Who's more loyal? Name me a more loyal or loyal or... Name me... As far as duos go I think there's been more they also haven't got a tribal a lot so it's hard to relate

I mean I think of like like a Shannon Ricard pre-merge I think of a wasn't they fighting over the idol pre-merge or fighting over the thing pre-merge I don't think so Wasn't they fighting over the idol pre-merge? Or fighting over the thing pre-merge? I don't think so.

Maybe. I think of like a Danny and Deshawn. Alright. They were locked in. Alright, Bryce. I think of like a Charlie and a Maria pre-merge. Sorry, Bryce. How did that work out? I mean, we'll see how your

best duo of all time works out. Give them a couple weeks. I'm mad. Yeah, but to me, again, to put a pin in this, is like, Tiana should have known this was going to be something that comes up one way or another.

Here's another thing, right? Because I keep saying, maybe Tiana's so oblivious, right? something that comes up one way or another it's like here's another thing right because i keep saying maybe tiana's so oblivious right what if there's a world where she's not oblivious she dropped the perfect bomb because it's like i can make up or do whatever with gabe but this information out there now it's like with the sierra and sam it's like, oh, okay. But saying something like that, you saw a lot of their reactions. Yeah, true, true. And also, here's another thing. Sam was pissing me off, okay?

Sam was giving me, what's that, a Lifetime movie actor. Because, Sierra? And then there's like, yeah, Gay found an idol. Sam's like, he found an idol already? Like, Sam, don't you got to, like, Sam, you got an idol. There's idols

out there. It's like, yeah, they already was funny because it's been like 10 days at this point. Yeah, they're out there, man. Right. Oh, I didn't even think of that ain't idle what's that

I wonder if that lady Lisa I mean Sierra on my tribe is finding might as well start looking at our beaches? Here? Was that that noise we heard on day two by the rocks? Yeah.

Let's see. What else? What else? What else? Another interesting thing though when Sal got back to camp and kind of like

Sal Sal Soul? But is it Soul? I think it's soul I think it's soul Because I know preseason He was making jokes about like soul survivor

Or whatever Okay Maybe it's Saul Saul That's what I said He said Sal Sal Like a towel but a Sal Saul. That's what I said. You said sow. Sow.

Like a towel, but a sow. Saul. Okay. It was just interesting. Or not even that, but like Rome coming back and being like, wow, teeny. And Teen's like, I didn't have a vote. I couldn't do anything.

And Rome's like, well, you still could have told me, but I thought Teenie played it off. I mean, I wasn't mad at how she kind of maneuvered it a little bit. I was like, okay.

Yeah. That was interesting. I was going to ask you guys the same thing. Cause I was like, she got just on the, she got put on the bottom and then gets put on the spot. And, but I think of reasonable answers. Like, look, I wasn't here. I didn't come up with the plan. Obviously I was gone.

And then I get back and even if Genevieve's there, you'd be like Genevieve and Keyshawn told me the plan. Like, and that's all the votes that needed that they needed. So I thought, I was like, what am I supposed to do? Like, even if I come tell you like what I can't change anything. So I think it's like a reasonable enough thing. And obviously her being on the journey is a great excuse because it's like, all right, well, you, you didn't hatch the plan.

Like you weren't here. So, um, Wendell, what did you think about it? I, it, that, that interaction kind of slipped my mind how she, uh, Wendell, what did you think about it? That interaction kind of slipped my mind, how she played it off. But if you're explaining how it happened, then yeah, she did a great job. And like I said, on the R-Hap stage, when I was watching, I was sitting between a man with a cape on and a man dressed as Vice President Harris. So I was I was between a lot of action and I wasn't locked into the whole episode. Shout out to Davey and Tevin. That's a good combo. Yeah, very valid. And then, yeah, I guess the other thing about Lavo is just a lot of things are starting to get chaotic. Like, Rome then tells Saul about Teenie's idol, and then that gets back to...

People are just kind of starting to turn on each other over at Lavo, which is really interesting. gets back to people are just kind of starting to turn on each other over at lavo which is really interesting because it's like you know even genevieve a little bit i think reacts reasonably to how rome has started spilling information but she did just make this move to save rome and you kind of think okay now you guys are at the middle of the tribe uh and you would want to keep teeny and soul soul soul now now i'm necessarily yeah i kind of had an kind of at an arm's reach from each other, but yeah, I mean my, my, my, what a different seven hours can make, because

now Rome is on the beach with Sol talking about, I don't know how far I could go with Tini, I'd rather work with you, like what? this can't be, and but I mean like you said now rome is dropping gems like uh genevieve doesn't want to go that far with you she won't go far with teeny like rome what are you doing but i understand what he's doing he's trying to like i think he understands

after kind of getting the carpet pulled up under him, is that I need to work with people, but I need one up on people, right? So let me just drop this little nugget on you, and now you're with us, but I got you. But the problem is, and we've seen that literally unfold last episode with Keyshawn. Like, you got to be consistent with these stories and how you tell them, because people talk.

Yeah, I think that's the thing is like, he sort of threw Genevieve a little bit under the bus. And I think a big thing that we're learning, like you said, with last month, if you're going to start putting little targets on people, you got to make sure the people you're talking to are not closer with that person than you are with them, because then they're just going to go talk about it and it's going to turn on to you uh and how quick does it seem that he can turn on his allies or try to pick up new

allies it's like man you were literally bullying saul across the whole beach a day or two ago it's a testament to saul's patience too because like we see how much Saul dislikes him and that now there's an opportunity but it is funny too with Rome we even saw in episode one he's like okay I want to make this person my ally let me tell them everything I know that has happened at all and it's like maybe this isn't the right ally to be making so now you're just spilling so much about... I think the idea that he has of, okay, if I give them information, they'll trust me, is reasonable,

but it just a little bit goes from zero to 100 real quick. Something else that Saul did that made me feel like he's just playing the game with Rome is when he went to Genevieve, right? Like, cause I was like, why tell her this? Like, why not hold on to this and see how you

react? And it's like, you don't even give her opportunity to like lie, right? Like you're like, oh man, I wanted to work with you. And Genevieve was like, we still can. Why? And he's like, and Genevieve is like we still can why and he's like well Rome told me and again he first of all you could tell Genevieve is a lawyer okay because the way that she immediately said

well that's not what he told me he told me to say like he just set it up for her to like knock it out the park and for Sol to believe it. I wish he would have like set a

little bit more of a booby trap for her because the way he was walking around the camp he was like, what's wrong? Rome told me you don't want to work with me anymore. Jeff, he's like no he's lying so but

him even going to her for me is like oh okay he's more connected with her than a Rome definitely let's get into the immunity challenge lots of interesting stuff here it starts off with this negotiation where Gata is offering up into the immunity challenge lots of interesting stuff here it starts off with this negotiation

where gata is offering up their chickens for some eggs because they've decided they don't want to kill the chickens and the eggs are not laying and jeff is you know pretty open to it and i they asked for 24 eggs and they get 18, which I thought was really, as far as we've seen Jeff with negotiation, I thought it was really generous. And yeah, I'm just curious to hear your guys' thoughts about it.

It was such a funny little moment. Yeah, I thought it was great. I would have, give me 10, let me keep a chicken. We're going to cook this chicken and have some chicken and eggs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was trying to think if I've had chicken and eggs before, and

I think I have. I think I've had like a chicken biscuit with, I don't know. Anyway. Jack, what's your preferred method of eggs? I'll go, it depends on like how, like if I'm getting like a bacon egg and cheese, I like a good fried.

How about an egg as a side? I'll go like scramble with cheese. That's a good one. That's more omelet, I mean. Do you use any condiments on your eggs? A little hot sauce sometimes. Okay. Wendyzy, what's your egg of choice?

Swing me. I'll do, like, some bacon, some potatoes. Your egg. Well-done potatoes with peppers and onions on them. Fried nuggets, okay. You know what I'm saying? I'm a real one. Let me get some, okay.

Fry them hard, too. And then with that, you got to go with like two eggs over easy, so then you can kind of get the mix. You throw some hot sauce on the side, so then you can get the dippy. You know what I'm saying? Have the potato with the egg,

with the yolk, with a little hot sauce, with the bacon. Chef's cue. Yeah. I used to be a scrambled girl with cheese, but I think after having a million and one breakfasts with Wendy's and seeing them dip the potatoes in the yolk, I'm an over easy, but I'm a ketchup girly. I didn't realize some people don't put ketchup on their eggs.

When I was like six, I think I did. Yeah, my parents used to not let us do that. Yeah, I don't, like I've heard people say that, like, oh, you can't put ketchup on your egg. Why not?

Nah. No, I think it's, I don't think it's, I can respect it. I mean, I love a, I love like a, on a burger, like a fried egg.

And then, you know, you still get some ketchup on the burger too. It all blends. I don't know how I feel about the egg on a burger. I love a breakfast burger. A breakfast burger? What do you say, like a bacon, egg, and cheese burger? With a burger on it? Yeah, it's like a bacon, egg, and cheese with a burger.

Yeah. You guys remember that? Where are you from? you've been about all over the place that calorie intake that cholesterol has to be so high on that all the last episodes

where I've gotten some shit from you guys all the comments end up being Jack's right and this time two comments don't count I've heard of it all the comments end up being Jack's right. And this time I Mark my words. Mark my words. Mark my words.

If Sue's 45, the breakfast burger is alive. No, sir. But so do you eat it for breakfast or you just order a breakfast burger for dinner or lunch? It's more like a lunch or a dinner. Okay.

All right. I've seen the burgers throw a fried egg on there, throw an avocado. I've seen those like kitchen sink burgers or whatever. Yeah. That's like a breakfast burger. No, you don't. A breakfast burger sounds like you're ordering that at 9 a.m. at McDonald's. No, no.

Or at the bakery or at Manhattan Bagel. If you go to a restaurant, they have something like that. It's no. Or at the bakery. Or at Manhattan Bagel. If you go to a restaurant and they have something like that, it's usually called a breakfast burger. They don't have something like that. Well, I don't know what restaurants you're eating at. They don't have something like that on the breakfast menu. No, yeah, they don't. But it's like, there's some foods you have for dinner

that are like kind of breakfast foods. And it's like, oh, I'm getting a little silly. I'm not saying you eat it for breakfast. I'm just saying it. I already did the research. A breakfast burger is a combination of a cheeseburger and a breakfast sandwich. It's a hamburger patty top with bacon, egg, and cheese. Wait a minute.

Hamburger with bacon, egg, and cheese and egg? Bacon, egg. You know what? A fried egg, yeah. Bacon, egg, and cheese and egg bacon egg you know what a fried egg yeah bacon egg and a fried egg okay it sounds delicious it sounds delicious i would throw ketchup mayo hot sauce on that 100 that's yeah that's the move um a little salt a little pepper i'd even throw lettuce and tomato on that i could do an onion on it put me a raw onion on it but not a whole onion just a little it really functions well like a bacon cheeseburger

because if you get the egg on there fried over easy the yolk kind of is like a sauce itself and it has a little crispiness you have to probably take a big bite okay

didn't see that one coming but yeah I was just surprised Jeff gave him so many eggs I think maybe he was like they're being nice to the chickens like that's that's honor like admirable so we'll be generous with uh like maybe they're trying to get the ceo award back i don't know um

but the q award that q money um yeah i was just like Jeff you why'd you start so high Jeff like Jeff offer him four eggs you know really make him meet you somewhere yeah when he said five I thought he meant five total

and then he said five per chicken yeah um anyway the challenge I guess well I just love when they He said five per chicken. Yeah. But. Anyway, the challenge. Well, I just love when they negotiate in general with Jeff. Because sometimes you get nice, Jeff. And sometimes you get nasty, Jeff.

We got a nice Jeff this time. Absolutely. For sure. Challenge was interesting. Some really funny moments. Andy sawing with the wrong side of the saw and thrusting his hips while he did it. It was pretty hilarious. I don't know what it... Andy! Okay?

There was a lot of... I mean, Andy! Andy! What does all that hip motion do to the song it helps the motion in the ocean Bryce are you the pole

or are you the song I'm the rope okay bust me open oh my gosh yeah it was wild and I think there he's doing with the wrong side of the blade

which is ridiculous I also thought it was really interesting when they were throwing the bags maybe a little bit of faulty challenge design when Lavos were like halfway off but they were kind of stuck. I was like I don't there's a world where the blocks

will be partly off and get stuck and I think there's like nothing you can do about it and that would be a really frustrating way to lose a challenge. Does that ever happen in basketball where the ball gets stuck on the back of the room? It's a wedgie. Yeah.

It's sometimes we get stuck on the back of the room, the room in the backboard. Yeah. It's just a jump ball. I think, but you could get it, you could get it down though. You know,

if you got found. Yeah, true, true. But, yeah, and then, you know, it ends up being a really close finish to the challenge, Wendell, where it's literally like Saul falls down as they're going to get on the mat. Part of us, I think we thought, they're going to put that last piece down, run over,

and Goss is going to win. Yeah. It was a wire. Yeah. It was great to watch. It was great to see. Another close one. I loved when, this is the challenge when they had to

wait, was this the reward challenge when they had to throw the bricks at the thing? This was the immunity. Can we talk about... Don't you leave Rome alone right now. Rome... He

winded up his arm. He threw it at the thing. The wall said... The wall said the wall said the wall said now let me also tell you something if Andy didn't get the

britches wet a little bit hold on let me get this off oh yeah you could Saul probably has played some baseball yeah Saul wasn't playing out there it might you also now you know

Saul saw Rome hit it and it go Rome Saul is like this is my opportunity watch this you know who else has an arm on them now wrong with Saul. It's like, this is my opportunity. Watch this. You know who else has an arm on him now? Samuel. Samuel.

Samuel went up there with that sash. Sam can throw. Okay, but this will be so nasty. Sam said, he got that real baseball in him. What was that throw, Bryce? Well, I'm in a confined space, but I'm also left-handed,

so it's hard for me anyway because everything is right-handed. So let's see. You can throw a baseball left-handed. Yeah, but they don't make a lot of right-handed gloves. No, you know what? No, I'm left-handed, so I would get a left-handed glove, but I'm so used to this right-handed world that I like a right-handed glove,

so I do throw on my left hand. That's what you're supposed to do. Bryce, do you ever use a left-handed baseball? Wait, Bryce. I feel like Bryce just realized growing up playing baseball, he was throwing with the wrong arm the whole time. I just remember they'd be like,

at gym class, they'd be like, are you left-handed? They would give me a left-handed glove and when I would throw it, I'm like, this doesn't feel natural. That's right. You wear the glove on your opposite hand.

You don't throw it with the glove, with the hand and with the glove. I guess I get what you're saying. If you were in class and they maybe didn't have the other gloves and you had to do it. Right. So maybe that's what it was where I always had to do it where it felt a little unnatural, but...

Whoa. See? It looks unnatural and you don't have a glove on. Okay. Throw a ball. I don't have a ball. Okay. Well... I gotta throw this muffin. Watch it. I'm gonna set this up at the opposite end of my room

and I'm gonna snipe the computer let's see oh yeah Jack you have to hit the exact dot on the computer I used to pitch a little bit you gotta stand by the door I don't wanna knock my

I'm gonna put pillows down behind in case my computer falls off. Hold on. Alright, cool. Is this man crazy? Is he going to launch something at his computer? Not a muffin. You got it, Jack. You got it.

Let's go, Jack. Uh-oh. A little bit above. It was a little bit above it was a little bit above try it again best out of three why is he it was like this much like above

we know if it hits why is he trying this so hard he's going to break his computer let's see it Jack you still missed Your coin break is going to be computer. Let's see it, Jack. You still missed. One more time, buddy. One more time. Move a little closer.

You got closer that time. You might want to use a water bottle. What do you mean? Oh, I can throw a water bottle? Yeah, you want to throw a water bottle. No. The hotel TV is behind my computer.

Use the muffin. Yeah, but that's not what you're supposed to be aiming for, Jack. Also, time out. Before you go, Jack, go ahead. What's up? I was going to say, you're almost touching the ceiling. That's something probably Rome has never experienced. Here it goes.

Ah! Jack, you got to try it one more time. All right. Hey, Bryce. I've been hitting the TV so I can show you where I hit on the TV. Ah, okay. He said he was a baseball

player. Okay. This not... Yo, I felt like it hit me in the face. Okay, so this is the level I've been on, and then this is the TV. Wait, hold on. That's the whole point of

a target. So, I don't even know what I'm showing. Yeah. So this is where I just hit on the TV. Which is like the skin. And then I hit up here a couple times. Oh. Hey, Bryce.

But yeah, I started every game as a pitcher in my middle school baseball team. It's no big deal. Hey, Jack, did you rent the Airbnb or did your dad? My dad. Hey, Bryce. This is a hotel. Oh, the hotel.

Pops is not getting a deposit back. Okay. They keeping that $400, okay. No, no. People will be like, why? Do the TV smell like a blueberry muffin they gonna be in there licking the TV somebody gonna come in like what you doing

it's all better now alright but I did enjoy Jack you got an arm thank you and that's not even my hardest. The muffin's messed up, though. Oh, the muffin's done.

But sometimes those are the best. When a muffin's like that, you just open them. All fumbled up. Yeah. Have y'all ever done this? Turn the muffin into a parfait. You take the muffin. You throw it in a bowl.

You take the yogurt yogurt put it on top take the granola on top and then add all the fruits and the berries and do you eat that for breakfast or is that a different the answer to that that's definitely a breakfast and it's next level if you throw the muffin in the oven first oh it's like a little uh what's it called apple crumble or something yeah it's like a muffin crumble oh yeah a lunch muffin um but anyways so so essentially gata loses this in a close one and um they're going back to travel since the first travel council and we get a lot of like interesting stuff that unfolds after this i mean the the basic story is that andy's playing up that he's the target he knows it he's trying to bait annika and rachel into like believing that he

knows he's a target and sam is essentially trying to convince s to keep Andy because they trust, he trusts him more. It doesn't trust Annika. And there's also this uncertainty of like, should he play his idol? Because if he doesn't know about it, but they keep Andy, then it could betray his trust a little bit. Yeah, there's a lot of dynamics shaken out here like what do you guys like what before we get to travel like what what's kind of your read of this situation it is so interesting how the game of telephone comes back in to play right because of annika going on that journey and spilling that tea and then telling the people that they

picked up on it. But then when Sam went over there and they said that they were a thing, it's just so interesting how when people say words matter, words really matter. And so just switching up,

just lying. I almost feel like people telling that information, like them saying that they heard that Ciara and whatever were a thing, that could have just been somewhat made up and look at the damage that it could have caused. Although my girl Anika did say that, it just is so interesting. I really feel like the next level of survivor play in this new era is like i feel like anybody that's listening go out there and lie go out there and lie but like you don't have to make up these exuberant exuberant lies you can literally just

say if jack is telling you something you could just say well we heard and said like because that ultimately put doubt in Annika with her tribe although we know Sam and Annika weren't really good and Sam and Sierra are a thing but it just was so interesting like literally the game of telephone and a boomerang

kind of coming back around to kind of like illuminate this target on Annika and this is the season for it. I love how they keep on sending these different combos away, or now we're going to send a bigger group away. I think they should keep this stuff up this season so we can look at this season as that. Like, this is the season of different arrangements

where you're sharing different things, and it's telephone, and it's going going back and it's changing the game. Yeah. I really liked what Andy did here. Yes. He's slowly, but kind of, you know, really worked his way back into the mix before, I guess we get, so I don't know, like looking at this from Sam's perspective, because he's kind of put in here as like the figurehead of this move, the one making it happen.

I'm so torn and like, and Sam's going to become someone I've been rooting for this season. And I just don't like my first reaction actually with this move was that I didn't like it. And I think that might be a hot take. And I don't know 100% that that's how I feel about it. But basically what jumped to my mind, and I'm curious what you guys think about this, is, you know, Sam's going to be a big target when they go into the match. Like he's a big guy.

People have heard he's been running the show with Sierra, right? guy people have heard he's been running the show with sierra right and him and sierra make him kind of strong-arming sierra into making this move going into the merge rachel's gonna go confirm to everybody that sam and sierra are running the tribe because they just blindsided her and you know sam obviously i think it's good for him to keep andy around because that's someone he's more connected to than annika but i think think for someone of his perception, in a way, it's actually kind of good to make moves that make you look weaker. And so I was thinking he should totally go with the girls because now he gets to the merge. He could push, OK, the girls are running the tribe. I'm the one who's been brought along.

It's not me and Sierra running things because I actually maybe wanted Andy to stay and that didn't happen. And now he's going to look like much less of a target because those girls are a strong group and he's going to be seen as an outsider that maybe people can pick up. But now he's seen at the core. And I also this is something that Xander kind of talked to me about during his season is that Xander sort of intentionally wanted to work with the girls. I don't know if you remember on his season, you know, they vote out Abraham, they vote out Voce and he's the last guy standing. A because early on, you know, now the merge is a little bit more imminent. So it might not be as, as pertinent right now,

but with a lot of these physical challenges if you're the only guy left you're actually going to be seen as more of an asset to your tribe because they're going to need some of that brute strength and and the guys tend to have a little bit more of that brute strength um and i also think uh sorry to go on about this a little bit i just have like a lot of thoughts on it um i also think a lot of times in survivor the gender balance will sort of ultimately correct itself as the season goes on and we've seen this season a lot of men have gone home early it's one of i think two seasons where two men were the first two out uh and then asia went but then we also had kishan go last episode and you know if if uh if andy were to go this episode sam would be one of five

men left out of you know 13 people and i think that would make him as there's fewer men i think they become less of a target just generally because it's sort of like a natural balancing act that happens uh and so by taking out andy i think that would also lessen Sam's target, which I think for him, how we've seen him portrayed, very important. Now, like, and we've seen other seasons where, like, Millennials vs. Gen X comes to mind, where I think they went into the merge. It was like nine men and four women. And all four of those women, so I think Michelle Schubert was the merge boot. And then after it was nine men and three women, and all of those three women, I think, went pretty far. Because when you're, I feel like when you're one of few people left from your gender group,

then everyone else sort of thinks of it as like not a problem and sort of starts to target their own group. And so to like put a pin in it it's just like i think sam's gonna be seen as a target and i think he should have sort of allowed and also the big thing is i think let sierra take control a little bit and give her that confidence and not make her feel like maybe you're because this move i think is is very close right i don't think there's a definite wrong or right move so let sierra make the decision and then down the line like at the merge maybe then you pull out the cards like i'll let you send andy home and like i think this is the move that we need to do now and maybe she'll be a little bit more willing to do that but i think sam wanted to take a little bit too much control here uh and i think in the

moment executed very well great move but i worried going into the merge the repercussions that i can have yeah and that has me thinking jack right, right? It is in this new era, and maybe specifically with this season, I'm sure we could quote other seasons, but it's the perception, right? Like most people are building this big resume for the end, but like how you just explained what Sam could have done, right?

Given the fact that you know there's a target with you and Ciara, right? Like why not play to the fact that you know there's a target with you and Sierra, right? Like, why not play to the fact of, let these women or let these ladies, like, take the lead so when I get to the merge, not only can I change the perception,

I could literally utilize that to propel myself. But it is, I don't think that it's a perception that people think about. When you think about people going into the merge, you think about being tribe strong. You think about these things, you think about these moves.

You don't really see a lot of people trying to minimize or lessen their strength perception of the merge. I think that's a great strategy. And I think it's like very pertinent on this season because it is so much about perception and not only perception the little bit of tidbits that you get then you take it back because once they all come merge it's like now we're forming a new society so that i don't know have you ever thought about that before or am i just sounding crazy no i'm with you like i think it's good to go in as kind

of a free agent because all these tribes are going to go to battle and they're going to pick up the people they think might be a little bit on the outs and sometimes being an actual free agent is bad because we see like the mergatory and sometimes it's like oh well wendell's not connected to anybody like he could be an easy option um and that like just but and and but I think here, Sam could have that perception as being more of a free agent, not being as attached to Ciara, because the girls are the ones controlling things. But in

reality, he would have some really tight bonds. He would also maintain bonds with Rachel and Annika, presumably by going with this plan. So he would be close with this whole group, but he would be seen as the one who's on the outside, and I think that would open up a lot of options for that. That's a, I don't, for me, that's very nuanced, right?

Like I, it's, that's a lot. Okay. Me, I was thinking about make it to day four. It is, it is like, it's not just, it's, it's just very nuanced in general like there's a lot of things to weigh and it's one of those things that it's a gray area right there's not really a right or a wrong play here uh sam there was also benefit you see you know sam keeping annie over onica's leaving someone in the game that's gonna be a lot closer to him and that could pay off in its own way so that's just why I thought this was just an interesting dilemma because

there's so many like layers to it. And especially that gap, like you said, Bryce thinking about, okay, you're pre-merge now and you're trying to think about things that will happen once the merge hits with people that you don't even really know yet. So it's like, how do you really plan accordingly? I don't know. I don't mean to steam steam what do you think about the whole situation no i think the way that you looked at it would have been would have been a really good way to look at it but i also think i remember like some conversations that anika and

sam had where it seemed like she might have been rubbing him the wrong way or bossing him the wrong way or something like that and i just think sam was ready to make this move. I think like he was ready to bust this move because like, yo, and Anika's a strong woman and she says, speaks her mind and she like, she runs stuff. She's a boss. So like, I could see a world where a Sam

wouldn't like how she would like tell him to like move things around or build things. And like, he's like, all right, I i'm gonna have to when i get a clear shot i'm shooting this shot yeah i guess that's kind of what it boils down to and from sam's perspective in the moment it makes sense of being like okay well i'm close with andy and i'm not close with annika the obvious move is to keep Andy. And I think there's a lot of merit to that too. So yeah.

And we know that no matter what from last episode with Andy bringing Sam, that there is the breadwinner Alliance. There's no, like he wants to lessen that Alliance. And so it's like, he's going to push with Sierra with that to ensure that someone like Anika goes home. And it kind of almost,

as much as I love my girl Ciara, I almost wonder, could it would have been the right move if the breadwinners would have targeted Sam? Like, I wonder for Ciara's, because I really feel like in Ciara's game, this move will be a pivotal move in how she does in the end of the game.

So I really do want to come back to this because I really do feel like whatever happens with Ciara, I feel like this move right here is all going to come back to this. I think it actually could benefit Ciara in a lot of ways, though, too. Like, I still think Ciara's in a great position. Oh, yeah, she's good. I got to wrap up, but I do want to say, like, Tribal was interesting. A, Sam not playing his idol.

Now maybe he can use it as a fake also i've seen a lot of talk about annika's reaction to this blind side firstly i loved it it was it was spicy it was real uh and i think if i was in her shoes i'd be the same way and i i think that's like a uh sharpness to the to the game and to her gameplay especially in the new era. I want to see more of that. I want to see people get better when they get voted out. Especially before the merge because it's like, I feel like she was already looking towards the end. It's like, damn

y'all really it was just an honest reaction. I was sitting next to Jake O'Kane yesterday and Jake said something to me was like, if you're not fired up or mad, and you get voted out, like,

I don't want to, like, I don't care. Something like, As in like, as in like, you better be pissed? Right.

That you're getting voted out. Like, Yeah, but also like, you could be pissed, and, and like, you know,

viewers want to see you pissed. Yes. But in my case, like, you know. Viewers want to see you pissed, yes. But in my case, like, I'm not going to flip stuff. I'm going to be like, they got me. I'm going to take it on the chin, you know. You take your wins and losses. Yeah. Yeah, and I think it's a fine line because you don't want to be, like, an ass about it.

But I think in Anika's case, too, it makes sense why she's a little bit, I think what, when it makes the most sense to be pissed is when things to you don't really make sense. Like why they added, like to me, if I'm Anika and I'm so tight with Sierra and I feel like Anika was super loyal to Sierra, I'd be like, well, like, why did you even do that? It doesn't, it's like, I had your back. Like, why would you take, like, that's, That's annoying.

But sometimes when you're in the position of a Sierra and you are playing both sides of the fence, you got to draw your stake on what side of the fence that you are. Oh, agree. I don't have any problem with Sierra making the move like this. I'm just saying from Anika's perspective, she might be like...

She didn't even know. Why would you do that? Anika was a queen queen Annika played a great game I wish we would have seen more of her I thought that she really went in there like a boss and I feel like I said once I

say it twice the pre-merchants are the best we they scared they don't want us to see us go far so shout out to Queen Ana absolutely yes Jack are you about to go play a soccer game or something are you on the red team

are you on Lavu are you about to link up with Rome yeah we're playing soccer but Rome doesn't let me touch the field I was going to say as long as y'all aren't playing any throwing sport, then y'all should be good. Well, while Jack gets ready to go,

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