RHAP: We Know Survivor - Purple Pants Podcast: Surprises Served with a Side of Auction

Episode Date: November 8, 2024

The baby boys are back to break down another wild Survivor 47 episode! Join hosts @BriceIzyah, @WendellHolland, and @JackAtkins21 as they dive into Episode 8, where the classic Survivor auction returns, and with it, some unexpected twists. As players eagerly bid on mystery items, Rachel uncovers a hidden advantage that could shift the game’s momentum. Immunity challenges lead to Sue and Kyle claiming safety, intensifying tensions as alliances scramble to decide their next target. With loyalties tested and shifting strategies, tribal council delivers another shock as the game welcomes its first jury member. Tune in to hear all the tea on strategies, blindsides, and power plays that make this episode unforgettable! 

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Purple Pants. Hello, hello, and welcome to the Purple Pants Podcast, Survivor News Edition. I serve as your humble and oh so gracious host, Bryce Isaiah, and I thank you so much for tuning in to this week's Survivor News. If you could be so kind to ensure you are subscribed to the Purple Pants podcast, we are available on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you can find podcasts. The Purple Pants podcast awaits for you to subscribe. And as always, with your Survivor News content,

you can watch this audio podcast on video. Head over to the Bryce Isaiah YouTube channel click subscribe give this video a thumbs up and let us know in the comments what you think about this week's recap the baby boys are back this week I'm joined by the winner of Ghost Island Wendell Holland Netflix Circle season 2 the baby, Jack Atkins, and myself are here talking all things Survivor Season 47, Episode 8. We're getting into the auction. I mean, if you want to call it an auction,

because it's like, whoa, everybody gets something. We're talking about these crazy moves being made by baby Andy and so much more. Let's get in to this week's Survivor News. Survivor News. Survivor News. Survivor News. Survivor News. Survivor News. Survivor News.

Survivor News. Da, da, da. What's going on? The Baby Boys are back with your Survivor News covering Survivor Season 47, Episode 8. We are back with the man, the myth, the legend, the goat of Winners at War. We've got Wendeezy Holland was popping. What's good, Perp? Good to be back.

Good to see you, Jack. Always good. And we've got new hair. Who dis? The baby boy went to super cuts before the episode. Came back with a whole new haircut. Jack was popping. Super cuts.

Well, we're not gonna disrespect my cut. Super cuts. Wait, where do you get your haircut at? I get mine with my guy, Richard. Oh. And I had a nice little salon. He gives me a discount because I'm a starving artist.

And he hooks up. What's the discount? And is it really a starving artist discount it really is you know you know first few times i i got i got got there on a referral you know cup was a little bit expensive back in my day i had a little bit of cash on me so it was no worries but now we're a little bit more strapped for cash and I told him I was like Rich I'm trying to come back for a cut but I don't

know if I got that $100 on me $100 he was like I got you with a 50% discount so so 50% discount you know he's like I get your hair looking good you're gonna book more

rolls it'll pay off for me in the long run I was like I need that's the belief I need from my Richard so um maybe I'm just paying $50 just to have someone have faith in me but um thing is $50 I know it's a little bit

much for a cut but I only get my hair cut like once every five months so and a hundred bucks is fine yeah but I don't even got that I can't even see guess we haven't been gambling lately I actually played Monday and I won

a little bit so thank you though and I played Sunday and I won a little bit. Oh. Thank you, though. And I played Sunday and I won a little bit. Oh. So. Did you update the books? Oh, the books are updated.

Now, I don't want to get us in too much trouble because, you know, we got to start the recap promptly. But I do want to do want to know jack when you get your haircut what do you say when you're getting your haircut um you know he kind of knows me well now so we kind of do the same sort of thing a lot of times i like the like the little you know part of the length in the front i think the thing we debate more is kind of like the back. Because sometimes I like a little bit of length there. But sometimes I think this time I kind of just wanted it a little bit cleaner. But, you know, he went scissor cut. So it's clean, but it's got some length. So it'll grow out pretty quick and just get a little something on it.

But, you know, back in the day, it used to be be like I'll go with three on the sides but you know me and Richard got a special connection so he you know I just say what I want and he makes it happen shout out to you alright last last last question did you ever get a bowl cut when you were younger

from Christine? Come on bro no no no no but my parents would take me, would, you know, Christine would bring me to the barber, and it was nothing but... Yeah, she said, well, of course. I mean, I was like

nine. It was nothing but buzz cuts for your boy. So I think that's now maybe why I like to have my hair generally a little bit longer. Because I need to be able to express my feelings yeah I gotta pick up for all the shaved domes

so whoa whoa jeez what's wrong with shaved dome ain't nothing wrong with that in my book. I say things that I think are super innocent and somehow there's always something wrong.

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But we are excited. Listen, we're only five minutes in and we get to the recap. You should be very happy in the comments. We are doing our best. What you got for us, Jackery? Because I don't know how I feel about this episode and I definitely don't know how I feel about the auction, but I'm going to let you pop off.

Whoa. That's aggressive from the jump. I kind of like it. I kind of like it. I kind of like it. It's already, we're not even six minutes in. We're already getting to the meat and the potatoes. But, well, I mean, yeah, the auction was obviously the headline of this episode. And you know me.

I mean, I think you know us. We love the Survivor auction. I mean, shoot, let's just hop right in on that. I mean, that was sort of like the overarching, you know, presence in this episode. And I think there's a lot to like and also a lot to maybe work on. So, Bryce, we might be on the same page here. I want to see. OK, give me your give me your straight away thoughts on it. I want to see.

Okay. Give me your, give me your straight away thoughts on it. Uh, first, before I go in, in correct me if I'm wrong, has it always been, it's more in the more recent seasons.

Cause they just recently brought back the auction, but it's in the more recent seasons that the person with the most money at the end loses a vote. That is correct. Right? Yeah. That was only, only other time was in 45

is I think the only time they've done the new era auction. Okay. So for me, one, it wasn't enough surprises. Like I miss the days when somebody would pay $800 for a bowl of rocks.

Like where is the people paying a lot of money for nothing? Like, that's what I need. I was like, when Gabe got water, I was like, okay, I ain't mad at that. A little fresh water, like, I'll take that. And it wasn't enough. Where's the nasty stuff? I want a bag of Beatles.

I want, you know, ooh, I think of Austin when, ooh, when Austin was eating the eye. Like, it's like, give me more of the nasty stuff. They had the eye, though. They did have the eye. Just one eye. Like, I just, I don't know. I think they took it easy on him. They did, they got, like, and there were so many

rounds, and they got a lot of good stuff. Jeff's holding something in his hand. He's like, is this the last? Do I have anything? Oh, I got another one. I mean, it's like,

spend all the money. Like, that was just a little annoying for me. And it's like, let the people share. Like, let them share. Let them share. And here's my last thing. You know I love Kyle. But you was eating me before Kyle okay cause you caved

a little too easily okay Kyle was like well was the chicken corn fed because if the chicken was corn fed then that means it is a vegetarian and I can eat it I'll just eat around the chicken part.

Maybe there's some corn in there. He was like, if it's going to be a cheat day, it might as well be for something like this. I feel like you've used that line before. Right. Kyle, I was just like, yeah, it was a little

lackluster for me. Although, you know, I love bringing things like this, the auction back, yeah, it just, it was a little lackluster for me. Although, you know, I love bringing things like this, the auction back, but make it more harder. Where is the advantage? I miss the days when somebody would sit on their money to the end to try to get this advantage. Like, I just felt like, I don't know. Is Jeffrey in his older age getting softer? I think it depends on the day for Jeff. I think some days he goes in and some days like on this day, it's just like, you know what?

I got a lot of goodies. Yeah, I'll throw those grubs in. Oh. Bryce, how would you do with the grubs? I would have tore them up. I wouldn't have even chewed them, Jack. That's disturbing. Just buzz

dome all the way down. So if I go find some grubs, Bryce, you'll eat them? I would eat one. Or some pancakes. pancakes like it's not I don't know it wasn't Rhode Island

how did you do? I didn't get to that round the fish eye took me out could you eat something nasty like that Jack? I don't think I could even if I gave it the thing. Even if I gave it a... The thing is, even if I gave it a

valid effort, I just don't... My body... I could try and I just wouldn't... It would come back up. To me, it's kind of like I'm not even... Especially with the live grubs. When it's still alive,

if it was dead, I think I could get through it. When Sue was eating them, I was looking away. I was like, oh, for some pancakes? I don't know if I'm doing that.

Were you old enough? Are you old enough? Do you know the show Fear Factor, Jack? Yeah, yeah. That used to be the show. Like, they used to eat those crazy things. They used to lock you up in the cage and put tarantulas around you. Like, I just am like, where are we at with the freaky dinky? And I don't know.

I just, but again, it was good to see the auction, but I just felt like there were a lot of great stuff. There were a lot of great stuff. There weren't a lot of misses. And I just felt like I oftentimes don't like it when Jeff tells us that whoever has the most money at the end loses their vote. Because I like the fact that old school thinking of Survivor, people used to want to save their money to the very, very end because they knew it would be something.

And so if like, if you're telling them the person with the most amount of money at the end is going to lose their vote then they're going to spend it like i like to see now it's a gamble now you're holding off thinking all right there might be something but i have to spend it at a certain point yes now it's more of a risk well you're not a gambler. Let's talk to the actual gambler. Jack, what's the best way to go about managing these pros and cons of the auction? Well, so some of your points, I agree with and some of them I don't. But the thing that I do agree with is that the most money loses vote is a big problem

because then it just becomes, oh, I have the most money and I don't want to lose my vote. I'm just going to bid it. Like I'll bid all my money on a glass of water just to get rid of the money so that I don't lose my vote. So it kind of takes away the point of the auction that we love seeing of like, oh, someone's like really hoping that there's a quesadilla and they're gonna wait and then they get the quesadilla and they're like yes but now everyone just has like random foods i mean kyle ends up with somebody he doesn't really even want to eat um but yeah and i just think it's kind of goofy like just just i love the auction don't get me wrong but i just think them I just think it just turns it into a gamble. Once the

first five end, I have the most money, I got to get rid of it. Put it all on just a random item. Then the next person does the same thing. The next person does the same thing. We would see in the old auction, some people wouldn't even bid on stuff because they got to keep the $500 if they didn't spend it. And they're like, Oh, that's not what I'm just going to take the 500 home. Uh, which is kind of funny. The thing that I don't agree with you about Bryce is I think what kind of broke the auction in the past,

why they got rid of it is having that advantage at the end, everyone waits for it. It kind of ruins the auction in the past while they got rid of it is having that advantage at the end everyone waits for it it kind of ruins the auction the thing that i love that they did was put the put the advantage in the fries um and you know you still get a little advantage and it makes it fun but it's snuck into one of the food items so it's a nice little twist but nobody has any incentive to to wait around and um just wait till the very end everyone can go get some food and there's a chance you might have something in your food um but there's not that's not really a factor in like what you're bidding on but it makes things kind of exciting when someone does find one especially you know a little rolled up paper

in the fries i thought was kind of a little thing so my biggest pro was that and my biggest con was the you know most most money loses the road that survivors we've talked about they're obsessed with people lose their votes it just I don't really think it's doing it for people that much I thought it was

interesting one the little piece of paper and Rachel's fry. I got scared because if I'm out there and I get that, I might F around and eat it, not knowing. Because how many fries do you take at once if you're at dinner and a bowl of fries come out? Do you just take one fry or do you take a handful? On the island, I might take one at a time. And those were those

husky fries too. I might savor every bite of every fry. Or maybe two at a time. I usually go like maybe two, three, you know, put them together,

dip them in. Right. And then you hold it up. But I think I would see the baby. I know what you mean. You can feel it. Wow. You're on Fiji.

The fries might have been cold. I also miss the days where someone has so much money. Here's another con that I feel about in today's auction when people are trying to burn their money. I miss the days when someone would have like $1,000 and they would bid on something for like $50, right?

There used to actually be somewhat of an auction back and forth and we don't really see that. People have just been $800 and it's like, I don't love that. Agreed. The whole that's the thing,

is like, the whole lose your vote thing kind of loses the spirit of the auction. Like, people are now incentivized to just bid all the money they have. Obviously, everyone now, it used to be everyone has $500. Now everyone has different amounts. So there's not even really a competition, because

you know, the highest, the one with the most money is going to win the bid. And yeah, it used to be fun to see people be like, oh, 20, 40. That was fun. And now it's just like literally the second item. It's like all my money, like four people are saying that. And it's like, oh, teeny has the most. You get the mac and cheese. That's it's not it kind of loses the spirit of it. But to counter your point of you don't like

them having the advantage, I liked the advantage at the end for specific reasons like that. Where someone would get a cheeseburger and fries for $40 because even though people had the money, they were holding on to it. So I don't know. I miss somewhat of the nostalgia

of it all. However, tell me what you thought about when Gabe got his thing and then he got $60. They gave him $60. I thought that was kind of weird. That was a curveball. I think it was maybe to just make sure that

if there were... My guess is to make sure if there did end up being 15 items that you don't get through like 11 items and now everybody's bid all their money. I think it's to give money back to make sure that someone would have money at the end to lose their vote is what I would guess. Get groceries delivered across the GTA from Real Canadian Superstore with PC Express. Shop online for super prices and super savings. Try it today and get up to $75 in PC Optimum Points. Visit Superstore.ca to get started.

I did love, you know me, I love everything Baby Andy does. I love when they announce that it's the Idol, or not the Idol, the auction, and everyone has to run around and get the money. Like, baby, Andy, he's just not having no luck. And I'm cracking up where people are like, did you find anything? And he's like, no. And then they just

reach right in front of his face and grab money. Like, Andy, what is you doing? He be getting in his head, man. Yeah. I think that's what it is. I think, like, he be, in his head man yeah I think that's what I think like he be like getting too psyched out a little bit or something in the moment

yeah interesting interesting interesting but we love baby Andy the auction is great to see back now if we could just get the loved ones visit back that would be I don't want no letters fly them out sequester them did you guys like

the method of like going and finding the tubes to get money or what do we think about that you know for me it always takes me back to Kageyan when they were going on the mad idol hunt when there was like an idol round and I think from Kageyan when they were going on the mad idol hunt, when there was like an idol round.

And I think from Kageyan, they're like, we love to just see everyone running around and getting the stuff. And so from that, I feel like things like this were birthed. So no, I loved it. I thought that it was great. It's fun to just see them all interact and just, you know, moving around the island and shaking because

it's definitely better than fire tokens. Let's just say that. Well, I'd like to thank Kaga for birthing that idea. I thought it was a fun concept. It's also like, look, if you're on your grind, you're going to get rewarded. And if you're not, then you're not.

I'm generally a little tired of the scavenger hunt type of thing but honestly of all the times they've done it i kind of like it for this because it's just it's like an easter egg hunt and i was just running around it only takes about you know five four or five minutes of screen time and we had like fun moments like andy not finding anything coming out of it um and it's yeah i I didn't mind.

I don't love the scavenger hunt when it comes to like an idol, but with this, when I was just scrambling, I think it's a, it's a good time. So. We brought up your mom earlier in the episode, Jack, but curious to think, I know back when you lived in Connecticut, I know that property over there is really big. Did your mom used to do Easter egg hunts with you? Yeah, so Easter

is actually my mom's favorite holiday. So, you know, we'd go all out for Easter. So... So wait, walk me through this. You would have a basket and you would... Yeah, make my way around the crib.

With a buzz cut? I was the only child, so it was kind of a solo activity. Were you running around? I'd be moving at risk walk. But yeah,

it would be just candy, maybe a couple quarters in there. Yeah. So just stacking my quarters. I remember there was definitely times I remember where it would be like, you know, Easter is usually the end of March or beginning of April. It would be like the next November. I'd find like an egg that was. Where this come from I never understood people that actually like hide the boiled eggs

do people do that? I went to my cousin's house I want to say maybe three years ago and the kids were getting boiled eggs and I was like Tanisha like if they don't find that egg and you sit on the couch four months later, I think it's supposed to be the plastic ones.

Yeah, I think so. But maybe some people just like boiled eggs. I don't know. Yeah, that would be a rude surprise. You try to get open looking for candy or money or something and you just get a boiled egg yeah but no my mom loves Easter and we're

Greek too so there's like Greek Easter is a big thing so yeah is that where the mustache comes from Jack? I can see it a little bit mustache is a strong term but a mustache comes from, Jack? I can see it a little bit. Mustache is a strong term. I'm only a quarter

Greek, but my mom's mom was fully Greek. My last question about the auction, speaking of food, we did this in 45 I remember it was a lot of fun I'm just curious if you guys were out there what you would have wanted

to win and I have the list here and I can run through it real quick and then you guys can just let me know what stands out so also it was weird to me the first item was chips and soda and jeff was just like first 60 wins it like that's not how auctions work like i guess selling it right yeah everyone's there's like a total of probably five thousand,000 amongst this group. And you're like, ah, whoever wants it.

He just wanted to get things started. Yeah. Wait, right. That is true. I don't need the list, Jack, because I know what I will want and what I will put my money on. What? The margarita and the salsa and the chips, period.

Okay. Interesting. Here's an interesting thing, though. Apparently, I think the last four people to win a margarita at the auction have been voted out that same episode. Ciara, Kelly, I think Jen Brown in Worlds Apart, and then

I forget who before that, but I saw someone say this. The Curse of the Margarita. Margarita Curse. You still want that margarita, Bryce? I'll take it with the lime and the coconut. Give me the burger

and the fries with the advantage of fries. Yeah, if we're talking advantage, definitely, definitely, definitely. I think burger, fries. Oh, and there was a beer, too. I mean, that's fire. T.D. was hype. Yep, T.D. was like eyeing it up. I also, I love chicken wings.

So, you know, if Kyle doesn't want the chicken wings, it looked like a pretty big, I think there was some ranch on there too. Although, you know, I wonder how long that ranch was sitting out. But I don't know. They give it to you in good shape. If it's hot, they're going to give it to you hot. If it's cold, they give it to you in good shape. Sometimes I see those Survivor pizzas.

Yeah. You get some good wings, you eat it with the hands, some buffalo sauce on the hands. Maybe that night before you go to bed, you just get a little nasty. Not good if you've aqua dumped earlier in the day. That's not barbecue sauce. You can miss me, though, with the sweets, though.

Like that charcuterie board of sweets. Like, I'll pass. I'll take it. I'll take them cookies and brownies and stuff. I'll take that big old cake that Saul got. Give me all the sweets. The apple pie that Saul got, though, that was barely a pie, though.

That was maybe more like a tart. I'll take it. Sign me up. Matter of fact, last night, we were watching at... What's the place called in Phoenixville, Bryce? 3... 12 something 12 12 78 something like

that like 12 78 in phoenixville that's where sierra usually has her watch parties 12 78 brewing shout out to them a great brewery out there and phoenixville pa has like lots of breweries, first of all. And where was I going? Oh, they handed out bingo cards. Oh, yeah. Everybody in there, Survivor Bingo. And your boy won Survivor Bingo. Let's go. Yeah.

What did you win? I was able to spin the Wheel of Fortune wheel, and it had all kinds of stuff on it. One of the little triangles said candy I won candy and they had a basket of big size candies that you could pick from I know you love candy too so that's a good one

it was a good one I got the Reese's Beezies he was like bingo nobody was even paying attention I was trying He was like, bingo! Nobody was even paying attention. I was trying to get to this bingo. They weren't hype at all. Where do I bring this? What's up? I got bingo.

That's like in Ghost Island when you won the challenge. I'm done. Now I got a knee-jerk. I have to overly proclaim my victories. Wendell, you were the only one playing, so don't worry. I think I was. I looked at Bryce and Bryce

didn't have nothing. My last question about the auction is I feel like they should have let some Kyle, like someone buy those off of Kyle. Maybe Kyle still loses his money, but like,

I mean, even before the item was uncovered, Sam was like, hey, like, can I put up my 300 on the chance that it's meat? Like, Jeff, they're still spending their money, you know? Like, just let, like, to me, it then puts Kyle in this uncomfortable situation where he probably was thinking, well, I'm a vegetarian their money you know like just let like to me it then puts kyle in this uncomfortable situation

where he probably was thinking well i'm a vegetarian because i don't want to like consume ant like i don't want to hurt animals or whatever but if this if i'm the only one who can eat this then it's going to go to waste if i don't eat it so it's the same as eating it and then now kyle's in this weird spot where he like feels like he has to eat it which is a little bit just like a little bit uncomfortable to watch I mean I'm obviously not a vegetarian so I'd be out there scarfing down the chicken wings but I want you know I want Kyle to be able to stand on his not feel any pressure to break his morals and it felt like Jeff kind of pushed it in that direction a. I'm sure it wasn't on purpose, but that's kind of what's going to happen. The game is Survivor,

and it's meant to put people in weird, precarious, awkward decision-making positions. So, of course, they're going to be like, well, you got to make a decision. Am I making this up? But I remember in some Survivor auctions where

someone would would like, I would be like, Jack, I'll give you $80 for that last bite of your burger. Like, didn't they used to kind of like auction amongst themselves? Or am I making that up? I don't think, I don't think a lot.

Like, I don't think they were really supposed to share or whatever. But I do remember, I think like in Micronesia, I remember Eric being like $20 to lick the chocolate off your hand like to Suri or something and she was like and then she later she's like there's something wrong with you boy like um so there are fun little moments like that but um and there's been definitely been a couple times where I think they've like

pooled their money a little bit to like help someone win something but I don't know the auction rules are always a little bit all over the place but I think we all agree they gotta get rid of this most money loses the vote it's just a weird little um weird little stipulation that kind of messes up the whole auction right

or flip it around whoever has the least amount of money loses they vote yeah well yeah um Or flip it around. Whoever has the least amount of money loses their vote. Yeah. Well, yeah. No. Yes. No. Yes. Alright, so no one's going to buy anything. They just don't have a chance.

What did you say? It's a gamble. Well, then Andy would also just be screwed. Well, that entices you to look harder yeah Andy wasn't going to look harder man Andy was in his head let's get to this

it's kind of like I felt like Andy's problem was it's kind of like when you're doing a crossword or something or like a word search and you're doing like a crossword or something or like a word search and you're just looking at all the letters and you're not like you're just letting them all hit you in the face you're like there's like a thousand letters like it you gotta go look at like a little corner and be like oh quesadilla like uh yeah but i mean let's let's talk about andy i mean i feel like

and i feel like what i'm about to say sounds like not great but i mean it in like a like andy is kind of playing just like a little rat like he's just scurrying around like people aren't paying him any attention and he's willing to just like get dirty. And it's, it's like a sort of like a archetype that we haven't seen a lot recently. And I kind of love it. Like Andy is just so scrappy and just really being like, he's, he's so sympathetic because he's struggling so much, but he's also like very diabolical and like willing to just stab people in the

back. And it's just such an interesting like juxtaposition that I, I'm here for, for Rat Andy. I love it because there are, it's like, there's a lot of sides to him. Like sometimes he'll sit down and just be so sharp with his takes and ready to go. Sometimes he's like a sweet Andy. Sometimes he's like, he's, he's quirky. Sometimes he's like a sweet Andy. Sometimes he's like he's quirky. Sometimes he's like, you know, the

diarrhea of the mouth. Sometimes he's diabolical Andy. I love how you just never know what you're going to get with him. But I love that about the new editing in Survivor, right? Where it's like, I feel like that can be the story with anyone, right?

He's multifaceted. There's multi-dimensions of him. And if they wanted to, they could have just edited him in one way. But I love the fact that we get to see Andy and all of these dimensions, because that's really everyone. Some days we happy, other days we're not so happy. But I like that comparison to a rat because rats be ratting. And rats are big and they're scary and they're agile and they multiply quickly.

And you could get a rat infestation and shut your whole world, business, and life down. And is that what Andy is doing over here in the island? Are you doing that experience? I've never had a rat in my home. Have you? I don't know. Have you ever had a rat in your home, Jack? Not in the home, but we had a little outside.

In the frat house? No, here, actually. Really? So our neighbor is like kind of a hoarder and just like accumulates a lot of garbage and so when we took the bins out to the street for like he just took a bunch of trash bags and just put them where the bins go on the side of the house and just like left them there for a week and then like when i took the trash i, I filled them all up as much as I could, but there was still some on the ground.

We come back the next week to wheel the bins out to the street. And I get hand on a bin. 10 rats like come out of the bags on the ground. One of them like jumps over my roommate's foot because he's in sandals. And we all just run away. It's like midnight. And then we go back to like,

we're like, okay, they probably all ran out. We go back, grab the bin. One more runs out. Another one runs out. And then we grab like a brew and we're just like hitting everything because at this point we're also like we need to get rid of these bags they're just gonna get worse you know so oh it was it was disgusting so yeah that was a a rat problem that we had that's so good but like the rat thing it kind of reminds me too of you know in like the mafia like they're they're like oh we got a rat you know like and it's sort of like andy is this young

guy in in the gata mafia run by like sam and sierra and he feels it's kind of like a classic like mafia tale where he's underappreciating he's like i'm gonna go like if they're not appreciating me i'm gonna go to the to the ops with some information and and you're like andy how could you betray them but you're also like but they weren't giving andy the respect he deserves like it's kind of like a great like narrative tale so uh it's just a crazy role i feel like there's so many weird dimensions to andy's game and like they don't always make sense some of them are like really good some of them are really like he's struggling and it's just a weird concoction that's like we

never really see and i really enjoy it like wendell says like you don't any given day like you don't andy can come into confessional being like i love everybody like i feel so welcome i'm having the best time or he can come and be like i'm gonna end everyone's game like i'm gonna sit on the back like what what's his spine anyone know i feel like i feel like we need kendra to go like have a conversation with andy and tell him like his astrology or something because i feel like he's gotta be something. I mean, I don't know anything about astrology, but he's gotta be one of these signs that are like, that got a lot going on. I'd say a water sign,

but speaking about Sierra and Sam and that relationship with Andy, where you're like, they're not giving him enough. Is that not a flaw in their own game? Like, have they undermined him too much thinking that, oh, he'll stay in this place and we can just drag him along? Like,

thoughts? They got super comfortable with him. They're just like, all right, this is our little brother. We protected him early or something and now he'll do anything with him. They're just like, all right, this is our little brother. We protected him early or something. And now he'll do anything with us. When we all know, like, when you have someone that's at the bottom of an alliance, they're in a striking position. And Andy was waiting on it.

And Andy was waiting to prove himself. And, you know, he just loved it because you know that Annika blonde side you know he was like I loved it like you know I can't wait to see him next week because he's gonna be talking so much ish and I know we're all over the place but I um this move from Andy scared me in the sense that I feel like Andy has now illuminated himself as the rat master. And now everyone's like, well, we know where all the rats are listening to. And I feel like it might put too much of a huge target on Andy. And I worry for Andy that if the heat gets to him, I'm worried how he might react.

I feel like we know the type of player Andy is. And so sometimes when he's in that pressure cooker, I'm scared he might do something not rat-like and kind of be like a mouse. I don't know. But I'm nervous for Andy because like after this move, it definitely like he's on people.

I mean, he's been on my radar, but he's going to be on people's radars now and also if we remember back to the day one it's like he read he like read it on himself or something like he spilled all the beans right now i don't know he's uh he is a great character for this show whoever found found Andy, kudos. I love watching him. Yeah, it's like you put Andy in a corner and you don't know what's going to happen. But something's going to happen.

You can't put Andy in a corner. We got this immunity challenge, right? We can talk about the challenge in a second. But what I want to know is for someone like a challenge, right? We can talk about the challenge in a second. But what I want to know is for someone like a Kyle, right? He don't eat meat, but he's strong. Is there ever a point? Because this makes me think of like Tasha

from Survivor Kageyan, because you know, I stand Kageyan. She went on this immunity run. Like, is there ever a point where you look at someone like a Kyle and you're like, maybe I don't actively win this. Right. Because this is your third one in a row.

I said this last week. The second he doesn't win, he's going home. But I feel like when you win three in a row and you don't win the next one, you've got to go. Yeah. But after winning two in a row, it's high alert for him. So, like, bro, you better win this next one if you've got to go. Yeah, but after winning two in a row, it's high alert for him. So, like, bro, you better win this next one if you ask me. I don't think Jared... That's not a problem, yeah. It's like, he is on high alert already.

We know he's going to win everything. He could have been up there and turned to Andy and be like, Andy, I'll let you have this one. Like, I don't know. You might want to get on the Ratmasters good side, but I just feel like at this point, it's like, Kyle,

the second you don't win, it has to be a rat for you. I'm worried, though, that this episode, that also would have been the case. If he lost, he could have gone home. And the interesting thing to me is that, not to diminish his three immunity wins in a row, but immunity win one, only half the tribe participated.

Immunity win two, he actually loses to Tini and Genevieve, who are on the other side, who last longer than he did. He didn't even win that one really. And then this one, he's only going against like the four other guys. So, um, he's definitely a challenge beast, but he hasn't had a single challenge where he's like one outright, you know? Well, I mean, a win is a win.

Yeah. But I'm just saying like, I don't think he's as much of a, like, if he won three in a row against everybody, then that's more impressive than winning. Jack, did you try to take the meat off of Kyle's bones and say he ain't really win? Oh, no, I'm almost trying to do him a favor and say if I was out there. Jack, no. Wait, you're trying to do him a favor by discrediting his wins

because he didn't win against everybody. Well, okay, I see what you're saying. Because if I'm out there, the logic in me would be like, okay, well, he won three, but the second one, like, he didn't even win. And then, like, the third one, he only beat the guys. Like, Sue might have beaten him. The first one, he didn't go against half the tribe. So, it's not like,

I'm not trying to diminish it to him. I'm saying for everybody else, they might be like, okay, maybe he isn't at, it's not like, I don't think Kyle's going to win every single challenge, you know. So, I personally wouldn't be that worried, but if they want to put a target on him for it then so be it but that's what i'm saying like if i was out there i wouldn't actually

be that worried that he's gonna be like he's not like a joe anglo who could just win every single challenge you know i don't know who that is uh but i know jonathan used to be good at challenges. I'm worried that he, like, that's me, but the perception as it is, if he loses one, very high chance he goes out. Yeah, that is an interesting point though, right? Because at first I thought she was just trying to diminish my man, Kyle. But like,

do you think he would have the wherewithal to use that argument if, and when he doesn't win a challenge to be like, Hey, I ain't face everybody. I'm not that strong. I don't think he does, but that's what I'm saying. Like my argument is almost as if I was in his shoes.

I'd be like, why didn't you go against everybody? Like I'd be, I'd be, I'd be diminishing myself. Um, but that's the thing. I think rule of thumb for early on in the merge,

I don't think you really want to win more than one straight community. Cause we see, especially in the modern era, a lot of the winners, you know, they'll go on that run at the end. You know, they'll,

they'll, they'll lower, they'll, they won't be perceived of challenge threats. they'll get to maybe they'll get the challenge that's out and then maybe they're at that final like seven and they could win like three in a row against um not big challenge threats and and set themselves up really nicely but if you win three in a row at the start of the merge then there's still gonna be seven or eight tribals. Everyone's like, well, Kyle's a threat. Did I miss something at the start of this challenge?

Why did we have a women and a men's winner? You know, they do that sometimes. I think partly it's because they split it up. It's based on your body weight. And so maybe it's a little bit more, I don't know if it would be more like for more fair to like a certain gender to have it like that. But you know, we've seen past seasons though.

They'll do a man and a woman, a man and a woman winner sometimes. When they did that, I thought I was like, is this going to be a double elimination? Are two people going home tonight? Oh yeah. And yeah, I don't know.

I wonder if Sue and Kyle squared off at the end. I mean, Sue was looking strong in there, so there's a great chance. I think I haven't really had a shot. It's just I don't know. I feel like this is a challenge I'd do. I think I'd be a lot like Sam in this challenge because my bag would have been 50-something pounds

and then I'm not that strong so I'm not holding up you know 55 pounds for that like longer than someone else is and then I'd be out I'd be like I'm sure I'd be like my bag was like 55 pounds so

I when I watch these challenges sometimes I think like call me crazy tell me what you think if you feel the bag slipping I feel like in my mind I would just let it slip because has it worked for someone to reel

it back I don't know I just feel like that takes so much energy that ultimately is only going to drop but I mean maybe a couple of seconds. Maybe it's just when people are starting to run out of rope, it's like they have to at least try. Otherwise, they're screwed.

But what you know, once you're doing that, you're not in the best spot. But I just feel like... Go ahead. I was going to say like, now to Sam's point, I don't know.

It's also interesting to think about, okay, the heavier you are, not only is your bag going to be heavier, but you're probably going to lose more weight proportionately than anyone else. If you're 220 pounds and you're out there for 15 days, you might lose 15 pounds. But someone who's 110 pounds they're probably gonna lose a little bit less and so um i i guess the the thing is like for me i basically i'm saying i think this challenge would be really bad for me because i'm heavy but i'm not that strong and i would i have some fat that i would probably lose so i might lose like a lot of weight in that that brief

amount of time and then that makes it even harder so i know when people go on survivor there's the method of like people want to bulk up before they go on and so like hearing this makes me also think like maybe bulking up isn't the actual best thing to do per se but not for this Yeah. I also thought people's forms in this challenge were really interesting. Some did it this way. And some people were sort of doing like a, like standing more out and being like,

and then some people were hitting like the oh, you know, so like holding it like this. I was wondering if you could put your feet up against the, like brace yourself. Maybe that's not allowed, but I thought that's the best way to do it.

Cause then you just have your whole body weight, like just pushing against. Yeah. I'm one with the, like, well, I think the lower, I absolutely think that the lower you can go with the angle of like your

grip is the better it is see but I don't know because with the velocity and the force sometimes that angle is going to give you a speed if and when the pressure of the force doesn't come back with you. So you always want to be careful with that angle. I didn't think about that. Yeah, you know. Well, no, I just think, yeah, the more, yeah. I mean, that's a great point, Bryce.

I don't even know how to rebuttal. Yeah, you know, I be smart. Now, it's interesting because after we get Sue and Kyle are the winners. Again, shout out to Sue. Shout out to Kyle. Now this, like, mayhem ensues. But I was like, I can't wait to talk to Jack about this because it's just like, I just don't know where anyone was going. And obviously that's a part of the edit because I'm just like well who's the target I mean we know

who Andy wants but I don't know I enjoyed this aspect of it because I was like okay this is one of these tribals where it's like I don't know what the hell is going on and they're not really giving us any clues as to where the numbers are lying yeah yeah

I think it was just like the benefit of the 90 minute episodes is we have we know that this group is the target but now all the rest of the eight players are all like okay well within this group i prefer to keep this person over this person or we should target this person or someone else wants to target this person so it it's like, okay, we all agree on like this, someone from this group should go home. But now we all have our different little relationships coming into play that makes certain people want other people like more than others.

And so it's like, okay, if we're all trying to vote together, how do we come to a compromise here? It's like, get that best person out. And another thing I thought was interesting is this whole idea of um you know sam is sort of that person i think would be typically targeted you know he's a bigger guy sort of been the strategic figurehead for gata to some extent um but now i i think a byproduct of the new era, we've seen a lot of winners be sort of those like under the radar, sneaky threats.

And I feel like people in this season are saying, okay, Sam's an obvious threat. Like we can get him out later. It's these sneaky threats like a Sierra or Rachel who actually might have more winner equity. And so let's kind of table Sam for now. And we can go for one of those sneakier threats which i think is it's not like a brand new strategy but i think it's definitely a little

bit different than i think we've seen in the past um where you know early merge a lot of times it's those big challenge stats people want to get out but now it's more like who's like an underrated person that could slip by oh they're actually not underrated anymore because we see that we see what they're doing so yeah I just thought it was a really interesting juggle between them but I hope I don't know

yeah now we get to tribal we know Rachel has an idol from her Fry idol now this is where I was like I got to talk to Jack because I'm so confused We get to tribal. We know Rachel has an idol from her, Fry Idol. Now, this is where I was like, I gots to talk to Jack because I'm so confused. Yeah. Now, I mean, we've seen Rachel's name was floated out there. So us as the viewers, I'm like, okay, I don't really know.

Like, you know, if Rachel really is a target. But she plays her shot in the dark. is a target uh but she plays her shot in the dark now was it really to play the shot in the dark or was it really to gauge like how people will react to me playing the shot in the dark and if they react that way then I'm going to play my idol and so I need for you to explain to me is that a smart move it's a great move and i think you you hit the nail on the head it's it's a great move and i've seen a lot of people online like raving about how good of a move it is too because it just allows her it gives her so many benefits um and you know usually the shot in the dark not super useful except for very neat most of the time it's

like oh the only time people really play is like oh i i like know that i'm the target right then you only have like a once for me it's it's nice to see this because a if you have an idol and you think you know you need to play it which is not this is not the situation but you might as well play the shot in the dark beforehand because then there's a one in six chance. You just get to keep your idol. And then if it doesn't work, then you just play your idol. Like why not? For Rachel,

I think it was very apparent that playing the shot in the dark, she could try to gauge people's reactions and then maybe play the idol after. Right. So if it says like not safe and everyone's like, Oh, thank God. Oh my God. Then she could be like, Oh, it says like not safe and everyone's like oh thank thank god oh my god then she could be like oh it looks like maybe i was going i could play my idol and then the last little thing that i think is kind of underrated um and maybe this was maybe a smaller factor in decision making maybe it wasn't um apparent you know this this is to be the first member of the jury. And so now... Come on. Come on.

You don't have to show your hand. You can tell... Sierra can go to the jury thinking that, you know, you were with her and you just got nervous. And now that's going to be the mayor of Ponderosa advocating for you to the rest of the jury. So I think Rachel kind of worked out for her on every level. And also, even if it's not Sierra, she doesn't have to necessarily turn on Gata, but she also doesn't have to be with Gata and against everybody else.

So she keeps like a very neutral position. And just it was a great, great play by Rachel. That was so we were watching it at a bar last night and I was screaming out the window. I was like, that's the best move. Now, I... Playing the shot in the dark to gauge the other people, I was like, okay, I don't know if that makes sense.

Because, like, how are you really going to gauge, right? Because I put myself in, like, say it was, like, Andy, right? I feel like if Andy did that, no matter what, he's going to think people are targeting him. But when I saw that she didn't play it, I was like, oh my God, you don't have your hand in the first person going to the jury. And what people can say what they want, a spoil, a bitter jury. can say what they want a spoil a bitter jury there is something to be said about if you piss off the first

person on the jury they're like you know what I mean like I that that move got my britches a little wet because I was like that's smart as hell because now she is crystal clear

like she's in the clear and I was also saying this to Wendell the way the cameras was zooming in on Rachel Genevieve and Caroline

during this episode I said do I need to focus on them? I don't know did I not say that Wendy Z? You did you did and I was getting you said

Rachel a lot and we're seeing we're seeing a lot of gameplay from her i'm scared that that's gonna you know i'm scared that that's gonna be bad for her but the thing that is kind of nice about this move too is that to anyone not... Yeah, I mean, Wendell was saying that this could raise Rachel's threat level. But the thing I like about it is it's a really good move. But to the people out there, they might just be like, oh, Rachel got spooked and played her shot in the dark.

They don't know that she has an idol. They don't know all the layers to it. And that kind of brings me to the other part of the episode we didn't talk a lot about i felt like last episode this episode rachel was just kind of firing on all cylinders every inter like when soul tells her that he gave her the advantage i loved her response of being like oh i figured it was you because that shows soul that she has confidence in him um even though you know there's not really any way that she would know and most likely in that group the other gotchas would have gave her that advantage teeny probably would have gave her that advantage jenny v might have given

her that advantage but to tell soul like it kind of like tells him you're he's you're number one without telling him um yeah I read that felt like I was reading it like if I was Saul I'd be like now how the hell would you know that like I read it like you lying like for me I was like oh my god I hope Saul doesn't get spooked by that because there's a way that you can take that like

now how in the world did you know because I didn't even know I was going to give it to you but I'm hearing what you're saying and so I thought that was a great interaction. I thought like her, you know, I was a little worried when she was getting that idol, when everyone like,

but she pulled it off. I was like, just do it at night or something. Like, just act like you're fixing the roof or something, but she made that happen. And then I also thought when she played the shot, like,

I just think she, her way of speaking through, like, strategic decisions or, like, explaining things to people is just very smart. And, yeah, she's just a good player. And we'll see if people catch on. It definitely, last episode, with that whole situation of her being alone

and being saved, will probably put her on people's radars more than she would like. But I feel like hopefully, I think her and Sam, now that Sierra's gone, should be in a good spot to be kind of free agents because they got Sierra out, but I really do think there's going to need to be

some two coups that leave at some point. But she's on Genevieve's radar, right? Yeah, a little bit. And Genevieve... Genevieve is a scary player like Rachel yeah I don't want to be on Genevieve's radar you know like they're scary she's a scary player so and and both Rachel and Genevieve can win this game and like I I think Saul got some winner in him too so like I'm I I'm interested to see how this plays out

but I'm scared for Rachel but thankfully she has this idol and she's so smart so she's gonna play it I think she's gonna play it smart I mean we've never seen somebody bluff

with a shot in the dark so I mean that we've never seen somebody bluff with a shot in the dark. So, I mean, that alone is update, update Indeed.com resume because that's a resume booster because we've never seen that. My last final thought, calling me Bryce Springer, seeing Ciara go home in the position that she went home on. And again, mind you, I'm in my, I stand Kageyan era. It reminded me of Sarah Lucina, right?

Like Sarah Lucina and like, not the same, but I really felt like Sierra was in such a power position. And to see everybody. Wendell to Andy and kind of follow Andy's move and it kind of sort of reminded me of like Sarah and Cass a little bit. Cass was the one that put the nail in Sarah's coffin and it's

like if Sierra had a little bit more trust in Andy and made him feel comfortable because ultimately Andy is the one that signed, sealed, and delivered. Yeah. That's my little two cents. and he is the one that signed, sealed, and delivered. Yeah.

That's my little two cents. But it is safe to say that although Rome might be gone, the season is definitely shaping up and we have some amazing players. We've got the Rat King. We've got Rachel the Idol Bluffer. We have Kyle the Non Meat Eater. Meat Eater. We got

the 45-year-old goddess. We've got Genevieve the Bee Killer. We got Saul the Wrecking Ball. Saul the Wrecking Ball. Okay. We got Caroline. Let me hear you out. Like, I don't know, like, we've got

a lot of different, you know, Caroline said we in the alliance, okay? It's just not a... We got Tini. Let's get sweetie. Like, Tini is also another amazing person that we haven't really seen a lot of

who is gritty, who is, like... Question. Teeny question. What's up? Ask me a question as you want. It's a real teeny one. Their... Okay, okay.

That was funny. All right. Their obsession with... Is their obsession Okay, okay. That was funny. All right. Their obsession with... Is their obsession with an all-girl alliance going to be to their demise? I'm speaking about Teenie continually wanting to do this all-girl thing. And actually, last episode,

she wanted to go for sam and are you can y'all still hear me yeah you can yeah sorry sorry sorry sorry because bryce is frozen laughing and jack is frozen too anyway teeny wanted to go for sam and it seems like you know, clearly the bigger, the one that the more than wanted was Ciara. So is Teenie, does Teenie have chops to get, like to go to the end? That's what I'm saying. Or like, is Teenie a legitimate threat right now? Or what are we thinking about Teenie?

First of all, after the week that we just had, I'm here for this all ladies alliance. OK, let me just say that, period. I absolutely think Teenie has what it takes to go to the end. We've seen how she was with Keyshawn in the beginning. Like Teenie for sure has the relationships. I just get a little nervous with these other variables. But I absolutely think teeny is.

And the fact that we haven't even really seen much of teeny these last couple of episodes for me is like, Ooh, come on teeny. I think teeny has what it has, what it takes and not in a teeny weeny way in a big way. Well, all right. Yeah. I'm a little, I'm a teeny fan for sure, but I'm a little nervous because, you know, I think the thing is her crew is Genevieve and Saul right now. And they were close with Ciara. But if you look at, like, Genevieve's kind of a tough person to be with because Genevieve's so good that she's going to kind of direct things.

is so good that she's going to kind of direct things and I think Teenie at some point is going to need to branch out because I don't think getting to the end with Genevieve is a very good strategy or solve for that matter and then now it's like okay Teenie lost Sierra

who was their connection on the Gata group and then Teenie doesn't seem super close with like Gabe or Sue or Kyle so I could see Teenie getting through just because of their charisma the gata group and then teeny doesn't seem super close with like gabe or sue or kyle so i i could see teeny getting through just because of their charisma and being a little bit under the radar and then maybe at the end like teeny's not someone i would want to sit next to because they're so lovable and like just fun that i think people would vote for them um but i just worry about going forward how much agency t is going to necessarily be able

to have because her closest allies right now are kind of the ones running the game and t is sort of right now a little bit in the passenger seat but i don't mind teeny compromising a little bit of like okay we can do sierra this time because i don't think it's gonna be make or break but there's just a lot of game left i don't love teeny's position right now but knowing teeny like there's a lot of there's a lot of upside so right and it's like i want to be with somebody that's want to be calling the shots this early on because more than likely you're going to be coined as the person that is making the shots and we need to take a move on it and i feel like teeny is the type of player that she will pull the trigger and make the move and get rid

of them when need be. So I think that it is, Teenie still has a shot in the dark. And it's not dark. For sure. Yeah, I think so. I think the season is off to an amazing start. I can't wait to see what episode

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