RHAP: We Know Survivor - Purple Pants Podcast | Survivor 49 Episode 10 Recap: Fractions

Episode Date: November 28, 2025

The baby boys are linking back up for another round of Survivor News as Brice, Wendell, and Jack dive into Survivor 49 Episode 10, “Huge Dose of Bamboozle.” With the game heating up and the beach getting messier by the minute, the trio breaks down all the wild maneuvering — from shaky alliances trying to solidify, to players tossing out misdirection like confetti, to the strategic fireworks that had everybody side-eyeing each other. The energy is high, the chaos is premium, and the boys are serving jokes, insight, and pure baby-boy brilliance as they unpack the episode’s twists, turns, and near-miss moves that kept the whole tribe on edge from jump.

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Head over to the Bryce Isaiah YouTube channel, click subscribe, give this video a thumbs up, and let us know in the comments what you think about this week's recap. The baby boys are thankful for you, The Purple Pants Posse, for rocking with us. We are back, Wendell Jack and myself are discussing all things episode 10 of season 49. We are talking about this dramatic tribal council.

We are talking about the two factions that are happening. We're talking about emotional moments, this, and so much more. Let's get into this week's Survivor News. Survivor News. Survivor News. Survivor News. Survivor News. What's going on, everybody?

Your baby boys are back and grateful to be here with your Survivor News covering Survivor Season 49, Episode 10. Hope that you hope your stomach is full, hope your hearts are overflowing, and you're ready to enjoy some Survivor News with your favorite Survivor News baby boys. we might not be a boy bands, but we are definitely some baby boy rock stars, welcoming back to the podcast in his home, has watched the episode. His internet connection is good. He is the winner of Ghost Island, but most recognizably known from his stint on winners at war

as the first merge shoot. Welcome back to the podcast, Mr. Windezy. Holland. How are we doing? How are we doing? I left my bell downstairs, so I might just have to bust out my own sound effects on the phone today. So, you know, I'm doing good though. Thanksgiving was great.

How are you guys? We're amazing. But let's round out the, not the trio, the trio, not Destiny's Child, but the Beyonce of this podcast. you might know her from the floor is lava. For real, for real. You're known from Emily on the Circle season two, but he might be calling your phone trying to cast you on the next best show out there.

Let's welcome back to an also. Let's just put this out there. We're recording early on Eastern Standard Time, which makes this practically the crack of dawn for the baby boy who doesn't really understand time. Jack and react is, how are you feeling today? I'm good. I don't understand time. I understand time, Jack. Yeah, coming to you live 9 a.m. But this is a different version of the baby boy.

Ever since I turned 25 of my frontal lobe develops, I can get up early. I, you know, I'm taking my career very serious. So this week I've been working a little bit, doing some temp works. I was getting up at 8 a.m., you know, just getting over to the office, take care of things. so 8 a.m. Yeah, so waking up at 8.45 to jump on the 9 o'clock pod, it's light. It's light work. So I'm ready to go. I got my coffee. And I hope you guys had a great Thanksgiving.

And I'm excited to get, we got a lot to talk about, too, not only with the episode, but with Bryce and Wayne X, the Philadelphia 76ers. Ooh. I need to hear about that. I'm like, that looked crazy. It was a lot. We do have a lot to unpack and discuss, but, like, you know, how was your Thanksgiving, gentlemen? Jackery, how was yours, bro?

Yeah, mine was solid. You know, last weekend I had a few Friendsgivings. You know, we did it up Saturday. What's up, baby? Full spread. Okay. Jack's, Bratt, sketch comedy or his. It's TikTok and Instagram hilarious.

Jack putting out the table and this stuff. First of all, I didn't comment it on the thing. Who that in the bag? Who was the friend in the yellow scully, Jack? In the orange one? Yeah, orange. The black one or the white one? Friends or shirt or hat?

He was like the second one to enter the door. Oh, yeah, my boy Maxie. What's that, Maxie? oh goodness yeah thank you for the love and trying to make more stuff make more sketch stuff but people seemed to enjoy that

it was fun at the Friendsgiving Saturday people were quoting the sketch but like the turkey came out and they're like it's the man of the hour and then yesterday you know I'm still I stay in L.A. did not go home but had a lovely day yesterday

I went to Dennis from the summit's crib Oh, I love that name. It was Dennis. It was Tith. It was Tiffany's friend, Abnew. Oh, whoa, whoa, who's his friend, Abnew? And it was Jared Fields, the big thing. And then went over, and we hung out.

Dennis cooked an unconventional Thanksgiving meal, but a delicious one nonetheless. And then I just popped around to some other friends' houses and just hung out, watched some movies, you know, played a game. It was very, very pleasant Thanksgiving. So how about you guys? That's dope. That's dope. Mine was good. Let's see.

Yesterday on Thanksgiving, I woke up. I had Wendy from Thanksgiving Eve to half a Thanksgiving. Okay? So I wake up with my man. We're running around playing. And my friend Angie, she's like a best friend of mine from like church. We were five years old. We've known each other for mad years.

And we went to college together. She went to college next to mine. Her and her husband and their two sons are up here for Thanksgiving. So they came over yesterday, and they were playing with Wendy all morning. And it was just good to see my little man, like, wrestling with, like, the big bros kind of thing, you know? So that was fun. And then I had to drop him to his mom at 3 o'clock. And after when he leaves me, I'm kind of down a little bit.

You know what I'm saying? so I'm driving back I got to drive an hour back I'm like a little sad whatever I go to my parents' house and for the first time in many years they have 19 people over for Thanksgiving

and like I'm used to a big household a big family for Thanksgiving like that's how I grew up but then people get older people pass away people move away I have like my older cousin Jason his sister

they moved to Charlotte and to Dallas with their families. So like, you know, Thanksgiving's and Christmases have gotten smaller. And just to be around the family of 19, it was dope. And another thing to note is, again, I told you, like, I dropped off when I dropped when he off, because I don't get my son a lot. I don't share this much, but I don't get him a lot. And when I, when he leaves, I'm sad and I'm like down.

But I get to my family's house and I see my love. little sister who has kind of been estranged a little bit. And I'm like, you know what, I could take this, I could just still be sad and then I could be beefing with my sister, or I could just be happy and blessed that my little sister's here. And one thing Bryce told me was like, when you have, families have issues, you know, things happen. And you got to take the days as like, you hit the restart button. So what I decided, because I was a little sad, I dropped Wendy off, I was like, you know what, I'm going to give Jillian a big hug and I'm just going to embrace this moment

and I'm going to change my attitude and because there have been times when Bryce looks at me like, change your attitude. I do the same with him. So I did the, I said it to myself walking in on Thanksgiving, gave Jillian a big hug. And then the whole night, it was just really good. It was fun.

It was, you know, my beautiful family, people playing lots of games. And the food was, incredible. So it was just like, it was like the perfect, the perfect night to kind of bring me up and bring me happy. So I just wanted to share that with everybody, you know, like, you might not see or talk to somebody for a long time. We don't know how long we're going to be with these people and, uh, you know, just love on your family while you have them while you're around them and all of that good stuff. That's great. That's awesome. I love that. Okay. With the family.

look at me talking yeah uh that's the thing like i hear you because i like reflect on thanksgiving when i was a kid for example and you're with like the whole family like even back then like my parents were still together and we're all going to thanksgiving together you got the whole family around like you said that's the time goes on you lose people or like the family splits up or like family issues can start to happen it's it gets more complicated than when you were a kid and so being able to like look at Thanksgiving or the holidays and have that, like, taking the right attitude on to approach and get the most out of it, I think is very important.

That's something I've been trying to do more of myself. So that's good to hear. I agree. Since everybody wanted to get all deep, I think my Thanksgiving was really good. I left Bryson Wynn and I went to my mom's house in Delaware, and I was up all day and night cooking a turkey and just getting everything together. there. But sometimes the holidays are like such a joyous time.

But I feel like for someone like me particularly, like my family really relies on me to be the. And I think like this year and again, like I said, Wendell fix your attitude. I said to myself when I got to my mom's house, like I was tired, you know, doing bryson wins the night before the holidays you've been to our events jack you know we don't sit down for a second we're running we're like you know giving ourselves and sometimes you know for the

holidays i want to go to my family's house and just be and enjoy and i feel like maybe the i don't want to say burden but i think like my what's the word the weight of your shoulder the my The onus. The onus or like the cross that I have to bear. And I don't know if that's like the expectation for me is that like I have to like I have to be on. And if I'm not, then it's like the mood, the energy shifts. And so it's like it's like a big responsibility. And I take it probably and I enjoy it.

But it does weigh heavily on me where it's like I'm tired. like I want to like isolate afterwards and it just kind of made me reflect of like my older brother that passed away his name was Bevin like he was the charismatic one of our family and so it's like I think maybe this holiday I was reflecting like wow like if my brother

Bevin were here I don't think the load would feel so heavy on me but nonetheless we had a great holiday my stepdad John my mom asked me to put together a plant stand My stepdad John is like You try to have to hide projects from him Because he sees you doing anything

He'll want to help and he knows the best way Even though he don't know the best way And it's literally an Amazon stand That has two screws The directions literally say No power tools needed I'm sitting on the floor Just screwing in the screw

And a screw just falls out It just falls down because it's like, you know, you got to, and so John sees it. He's like, what are you doing over there? I'm like, oh, nothing. I'm putting together this plant stand. I'm fine. And he's like, let me look at it.

And then so I'm screwing on the screws. Hey, don't screw it like that. You're going to strip the boat. You're going to strip the boat. Next thing I know, John has a drill. And it's drilling in a hole. And it's like, but these are the moments that I kind of appreciate because it's like, John is very much a dad, like a window.

who, like, just take over and do stuff. So it was a great holiday. And I'm happy to be here with the baby boys. But you asked about the Sixers, Jack. And yes, Tyrese Maxie is blowing up my phone. Talk about, you know, Riz God, he should play the idol. And I'm like, Tyrese, you should have us out. And so we had a great night at the Sixers.

It was really good. Talk about what you're grateful for. And listen, y'all, so are we going on and on? but it's Thanksgiving, okay? And we're family. We want to just get together. It was so great having like the old school players like Jervis, Russell, Ramona with the legends,

Ozzie, James Jones, Kyle, Riz God, Lindsay. Yes, James Jones is a legend. Okay, shout out to our guy, James Jones. It was really good just having those moments and bringing the people together. They asked us to come on the court. We like, hey, what's up? But it was really interesting because before we all left for the Sixers, some of us got together at like Windows House

and like Russell Swan from Samoa was just saying so many nice things about just like, because Russell Swan has been there from the beginning of Bryce and when my Survivor Kagayan premier party, Russell Swan, was there when I was in college and high school, I used to work at a shoe store. And before Russell was on Survivor, I used to fit Russell's daughter shoes for like seven years.

And then one day he comes back and I'm like, and so like Russell just has really been a part of us. And just he gave us, how would you describe the words that Russell Swan poured into us when BZ? It was, it was great for him to just have this more intimate moment with us. Because like Bryce said, he was there from the beginning of everything with us.

I met him when I was Turkey and City Hall. Tell the story. I ran up on him outside of City Hall. I was like, yo, I'm going to be on Survivor one day. And then I stalked him on Facebook. He's known us for a long, long time. And he was basically like, hey, guys, you guys, you make a lot of people feel special and seen. And in your events, it's not about someone's status or all the way.

winners or all the people that are cool or did very well or post merge or whatever it's about celebrating everyone no matter where they were eliminated and just the diverse range no matter when they were eliminated or no matter when they played the game and like you know what we like to do is just celebrate everyone and the community and i think it's good because you know Bryce was the third boot. I'll say it. And I wasn't the third boot. And we pour into people, no matter when they finished,

but also just like we try to reach back and get and celebrate people that played a while ago. It might not have had a great experience. And he was just letting us know, like, he appreciates that about us. It was also great, Jack, because Wendell's Frank. and Angie and her husband, who I call dad, drove us. So we were in a minivan driving to the Sixers, and it's me, Wendell, and Ramona. And Ramona is like, where is Jack at?

Ramona's like, do you remember these nights in South Africa when we would be in like going to karaoke and going to other places and just the funny things that we were talking about? And I never forget the story. It was when I knew Jack was going to be one of our brothers outside of Wendell and I are below. I was going to say.

It all started. There was one night we were in South Africa and it was when we were in the, when we stayed in those huts where the zebras were like staying around the huts. And I think we had went out. And I think some people, not me, might have been on a gardening mission in South Africa. And we all gardened a little bit. And we started talking like conspiracy theories in the huts of just like crazy stuff. And, like, everyone was really into it.

But the funny part of the story was, and it was in Wendell and I's room. And so it was like this, I don't want to say hut, but it was like a cabin. As the conspiracy theories start getting deeper, Jack, you started off on the floor. He got real comfortable, let's say. Oh, why, June, while we're having these conspiracy theories, windows like laying in his bed. And so, like, me, Ramona, Desi, Jack were sitting on the floor. As the night got longer and longer, Jack got from the floor to the bed.

From the bench, Jack sat on the bed by the end of the night. Jack, he was laid on the bed like this. And at one point in time, window was like, Jack, get out my bag. And Jack's like, what? Sorry, man, I was talking. It just was the fact that Ramona remembered that it was so much fun. So it was great to be with everyone. The Bryce and Win, Philly stop was amazing.

Shout out to our guy, Ozzy, who he ain't let one leg stop him. He was hopping around the city with us. Philadelphia was amazing. Wendell and I Jack watched Survivor with one of our friends' this episode this week. The man, the myth, the legend. Joanne pulled up to our watch party. Brought his whole family with him.

It was like so great. There was Buddy Games. Ramona was with us the night before. And Philly was really great. And so we are now on to our last four stops of the Bryson Wynn Tour 49. We're on Baltimore next week, December 3rd. Following that, Ozzie is going to be in Boston on December 10th. And I don't know.

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We'll be in New York. Tiffany, who just was with our baby boy, Jack, on Thanksgiving. We'll be with Ozzie and St. Felix on December 17th. So from coast to coast, the baby's boy got you cover. And we are going to end the Bryson Wynne 49 blueprint with a bang. This episode is brought to you by Square. You're not just running a restaurant, you're building something big, and Square's there for all of it,

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to get started. Now we're 20 minutes in. Let's get into the episode. I don't know where y'all want to start, but Jack, I kind of want to go in hot. And I kind of want to go in hot. Go ahead. Take it over.

There's a lot to go into this episode. There's a lot to go into. But my overarching, I want to talk about Yellow Sophie. I just want to say, Yellow Sophie has been, she's proven to us. she is a force to be reckoned with.

There hasn't been an immunity challenge. She's not number one or number two. On the first half of the season, we have not seen her a lot. And everybody's like, yo, what's up with Yellow Sophie? We're Yellow Sophie at. Boom. This episode, Sophie, Yellow Sophie is in the middle. And I love Sophie.

I love watching her. She's such a strong player. But I will go on record and I will say this. She lost a million dollars this episode to me. I feel like she sided with the wrong, faction. I think right now, and again, I'm going there hot, Jack. I got, listen, I've got turkey ham stuffing in my stomach right now. So I'm, I got a hot take. I feel like I rewatched episode. Uh, Wendell is, Wendell is giving us the mouth movement deck that he

about to say something. But let me land this, let me land it. I just feel like, yes, she is, she's in the middle. Alex dropped out. She popped up. I feel. like she sided with the wrong fashion fashion fashion I just action fashion fashion fashion fashion fashion action of I just I feel like she sided with the wrong faction um because why I said it right right really quick Jack I'm sorry there um there are so much nuance in a lot that's been going on these last few boots there's so much to unpack and regarding uh sophy s yellow sophy she is a great player but my goodness i think yeah she went with she went with those big dogs but again like there are things that we need to look at and i only think

that our podcast might be the only podcast that looks at, that talks about these things. So we'll get into it all, but like, yeah, man, she went with these players who if you take a Sophie S, Sophie B,

Savannah, Anna Rizzo, and you put them all at the end, they all have very strong arguments, okay? Yeah. And any one of them can win. So it's like, man, why don't you, home girl, go with people that you might be able to

beat a little easier maybe, but also her thing for voting now, Joanne was, I don't want to sit next to you at the end. I actually would like to sit next to Joanne. Yeah. But again, like I'm saying. I don't want to be hypocritical, right? Because I've been saying all season, you can't play for the end game.

You got to get to the end game. But we are kind of getting close to the end game. And I do think you do have to switch gears and look at it. Because in my opinion, in my assessment, and I love to know from the Survivor Savant, Jack, like your thoughts on this, I'm thinking like, Sophie S, Sage, Jouan, Stephen, Christina, that's a faction that I'd like to be.

I just I feel like I don't know but me because I like I like that group but I also have to keep reminding myself that on the island you have imperfect information we're watching we know what everybody has so again like we're looking and we're watching this trio for last few weeks who has all this stuff they just started sharing some information of what they have so like again when you just look at the number you think one thing and you're yelling at the screen oh my God they're so powerful they're so this there's so that we know that yeah now is going to be my

main point I agree with your general sentiment that in terms of like the groups you definitely want to be towards the end with like Christina Stephen Sage and Jawan

than with like Sophie and Savannah and Rizzo. My only thing is that if she wants to embrace playing this middle game, I don't mind her taking out. Now, I think Sage would have probably been a better vote than Jawan, but that's a different point. I would like to see Sophie try to flip back now, because now you, if you, you see this clear trio, seven people total, it should be pretty easy for her to go back to Sage and Stephen and Christina and then that's your

four and then maybe you go to the end with that four and now she's the one who controlled the votes I think that's great in theory obviously you have to work around Rizzo's Idol but the problem is also they don't know the other things that you know Sophie B has up her sleeve with the knowledge is power

obviously the extra votes out of the game now but I agree if so if if if Yellow Sophie is kind of putting her stake with this group I don't think she has much of a shot but I do think there's still options for her to flip things around a little bit

It worries me because this episode we saw Rizzo say like If I see somebody, first of all I love the evolution of like The like I said First couple of episodes It was Briz Hi, my name is Brillo

Okay, a couple of last Maybe like last four episodes It was like Hi My names my name you know when you go through puberty like you know sometimes if you listen to window talk his voice does this he's like yo what do you hey

like it's like my name's Rizzo I'm here to play now this episode I like I turned the camera and he was like hey yo what's up my name Riz from the south side what's up New York what's popping which I was like oh okay

I love the you can see the evolution of him it's like we're watching him grow up. And it's like for me, I look at stuff like that. I look at how cocky people are in these confessionals. And in the beginning, he's just like, I'm so happy I be here. And now it's like, he's like, where you win a better spot than me, you got to go. And I said, oh, I like this mature Rizzo. But Rizzo said when he sees people in these spots, he takes them out. Now, Also, I love me some risk, God, but it's like you're talking like you took 37 people out. You just took Alex out.

But all right, I'm going to let you cook. But it worries me because now Sophie S or Yellow Sophie, I'm scared the fraction might look at you now and be like, we need to get rid of you. And I also feel like Sage is going to be like, you took out my man. It's time for you to go. And now she'll be an easy vote for both the friends. to say she can go. I agree. It was like what Riz got, it was like

Urkel turned into Stefan Urkel. Yes. You know, time out. Jack. Uh-oh. Do you know who Urquil is? Yeah. Can you give a classic Urquil line?

Classic line? No, but I know what he looks like. Do you know the name of the show he was on? No, I forget. Can we, all right, let's get. I've known, I've known who Erica was since I was like a kid. Put your hands up, Jack. Okay, give you three options of a show.

Hands up, Jack. All right. Living single. No. Fresh Prince. No. Family Matter. full house.

This family matters, right? That's only because you know all the other shows. Okay. Process of elimination. Right. I know, but he's got, like, he's got the glasses with, like, he's got the pants pulled up way too high. Like, yes.

I know who, I know who are full of it. What was his favorite cuisine? Yeah, I don't know if I know that. You're a lot older than us. A charcutory item? Cheese? Got any cheese? Yeah.

Now, was he the one? Did I do that? Go home, go home, go home, go home, go home. Okay. Are you getting that confused with Go Home, Roger? Wasn't that? Roger was. Oh, Roger was T. and Tamara.

Yeah. Anyway, nonetheless, they were kicking her. Yeah, what's the, what's the sitcom, like a sitcom that you watched? I mean, my favorite one is the office. but watch so like full house when as a kid um I don't watch a lot of house you got like Uncle Jesse

yeah Uncle Jesse that what the names of like the people or just like the characters that they're characters well I mean you're like the twins like Mary Kay and Ashley I forget that wasn't their names and that was one character yes that's two characters zero zero it was there Lisa or not no uncle

well uncle jesse who else and then you had the dude who was played by the tall the tall lanky white dude Bob Sagget yeah

Danny Tanner yeah I don't know other name I mean I don't know Uncle Joey DJ right

Aunt Lisa I Becky wait Aunt Lisa oh yeah oh yeah that's the one who got in trouble with like the USC scandal right oh yeah yeah back to the regularly scheduled programming we're talking about Sophie and her decisions to flip-flop

and whether that's good for the game now again take out of joan that's part of the bigger faction and maybe you could flip back and take out one of the big three maybe Yeah, because my thing is, I don't know. If she goes, say they blindside Savannah and she's on board with that. Now, there's seven left and she's still in that group. She's in that group of five of Joanne, stage, Steve, and Christina. I mean, to me, that's the four in that five. And so I feel like they wouldn't feel like they need Sophie.

so Sophie I mean maybe they get to five or whatever and she's like the swing and then maybe that puts her in a good spot but she was clearly on the bottom of that group whereas with this other groups at the bottom with Rizzo Sophie B and Savannah where is she at in that group?

To me like if you're in a group of four you're good because once you get to your four there's no vote it's just fire you know what I mean so not that she should want to go to the end with that group. But if I'm, if I'm four out of four, I don't really, it's not, it's not as big of a deal. But if you're five out of five, it's a lot tougher. Also, four is a more manageable number. Like five is like inevitably there's going to be more fat, like an inner group within that. You know, there's like, a three or main two. Whereas four, it's like, if there's a main two

in there, then you and the other person are going to be a two. If they're saying that she is their number four even like i don't even see them even bringing her that close to it because of how dangerous she is but you keep saying she's at the bottom of the other five and what i keep pointing out was what i said last week was that the minority is really the majority because the majority in my opinion is so far savannah but no but i'm just saying like sophy savannah and rizzo right there isn't another three yes there's sage and joan we know they're together christina and stephen they're not like they're with them but like through the edit

through the edit that we've watched it doesn't seem like they are it doesn't seem as close yeah so and then there's the yellow Sophie so that's why I'm saying like they're really they're not really together it's Joanne and Sage and then it's

well Sage and Stephen you know like Stephen was sharing about Christina's Idol with Sage there's definitely some crossover obviously Stephen and Joanne had that moment where he was kind of testing Stephen and Stephen still was not so they're not as locked in as a four

as the other group is as a three but I don't know that's the thing once you get to seven and there's and that group then has four like that's probably going to be the majority so then Sophie probably is like not like she might last another vote but I don't know if there's as many options for her to get to the end if she does that

but obviously now she has to like play really methodically to break up that three because even if she gets the end with that three she's not going to win so it's like you got to literally her move should just be like explaining things away try to flip back and try to take out like riso savanna sophy boom boom boom almost wait you said i'm sorry for clarity I'm sorry you said if she gets to end with that three she's not going to win not against like Savannah Rizzo and Sophie B. I feel like there's an argument that she can. I don't know.

Well, my thing too is like I think I saw a theory about this, but like I think the reason that she didn't get a lot of air time in the pre-merge is it seemed like maybe she didn't get along very well with the rest of Hina. And so rather than

show her in a negative light, because obviously she has a presence after the merge, they kind of just like left her out of it because they didn't go to any tribal and if people were talking about her, it might not have been, like, the most positive. So now it's, like, her operants, now that she is more of a factor going to travel

and, like, has influence, they are showing her more. But I maintain that, like, I don't think the original Hino, like, loved her. I mean, we see when she comes back from the MC vote when they're like, no, MC's going. Like, it was supposed to be Sophie. Like, I don't think she's got a lot of winner equity in that sense.

Well, I do think there still is a chance for her, right? Like, if she can take out a Sophie B, if she could take out a Savannah. If she, like, she still has some moving pieces. I'm not counting her out. Like, she still has some options on the board. It just becomes a little more difficult. But to one's point, if she is at the end with those people, like, if she is at the end with Savannah and Rizzo, like, I think that's really tough.

It's tough. But, like, we don't know what's about to. having these next couple episodes and she's a beast so yeah i guess but now but it's like now what's her path with them like if they just pick off like christina sage and stephen like is is the perception really going to shift to be like sophie was running then well i mean it depends if she was able to take out if she could work with christina stephen and yeah but that's the opposite that's i agree with you brice that's the best her best mood well joan was her decision right and that i think i think that joan vote really changed the

direction of this game because they had an option to do other to to pick off one of these big three so if joan is her decision and she's already won immunity what once uh twice twice and she's in top two all okay now give her one or two more of those like I think, yeah. Now, I know that, you know, some people know who is on 50 and some people want to, like, watch that thinking that. I don't know what happens in this show. So I'm thinking, and, like, I'm thinking there's a world where she can beat these guys

based on what she's shown me already. Yeah. Can I talk about Savannah, right? Like, I've been on Savannah as all season. I've been a sage all season. Why is she still in here? Why are y'all playing and keeping her in here? The way Savannah had me

because, do I love the way this woman is so direct? It's like it does something to the britchers. When she gets word that day, Joana Sage ain't being loyal and that the possibility of her name is floating around what would I do? I'd be mad, I'd be getting mad

and I'll be talking to my alliance and everybody else saying, we gotta get them. What does she do? She go right up too. That conversation with her and Christina, now, my job, I love my girl, Christina, and, like, Christina has had a rough time this episode, and I do want to talk about that.

But, like, obviously, Christina trying to play ball with Savannah. But it's like, and I love my girl, Christina, but baby, Christina, you was playing softball, and my girl Sage is an MLB. Or Savannah, right? My girl Savannah is an MLB three ring champion

that, like, is at her daughter's softball league, and y'all asking her to hit the ball. Because the way Savannah was, like, okay, well, what's the other option there? We haven't seen play like that in a while. Okay, because time out.

She had me scrably. You know, Jack and window, I like to put myself, I like to pretend I'm in the episode. And when she said that in my mind, I'm thinking who would I say, right? Because it's like,

You should have, that answer should be readily available, right? Like, so it's like, okay, you can take a pause, but you got to say somebody. But then in those three seconds, it's like, well, oh, shit, I can't say your wine because you know I'm working with your wine. I can't say, like, it's like the way Savannah cornered her. And like, when Christina said, I need two seconds, like, that was like, oh my God. Like, Christina said that Christina let her intrusive thoughts away. Like, Christina was like, three seconds. Like, oh, that was, that, that was some good gameplay.

Was it good gameplay? I'm here to question Savannah's gameplay and all of their gameplay this episode because they have a lot of artillery. They're very powerful. They're in a great position. And I almost feel like I've seen some overconfidence this episode. it's almost like so confident you're almost showing your hand

because even when she was questioning Joanne, we only got a moment of that but I was like, ah, home girl, like you might be pushing it a little too hard, home girl. That's all like, that's what, that's how I saw. I saw it's like reverse psychology because again, we know viewers

that the minority is really in the majority and that is like, yeah, her giving that cocky from the minority kind of almost amps up Joanne and them to be like, yeah, we got them. Like, yeah, they think like, like I kind of thought, I mean,

she was doing a little bit like, this will test our trust. I was like, oh. It was that line and the look on her face that I was like, her tapping his knee like, oh, okay, well this will tap our trust. But might you.

Yeah, if it didn't work out, it would look crazy. But the fact that it worked out and replaying that, her being like, it will, it will, it will test our trust and I know you don't trust me and I'm sending your heart like it like

that's something that ages well well I think it worked out especially well with Christina because as soon as someone was like I don't know I need a minute I need to let me go figure out what I'm going to say to you I'm kind of stressed out it's like okay so your answer is probably me right if it wasn't you would probably have something to say and so with Joel

who was a little bit more prepared for that conversation though I do agree because his answers were good and so if I'm Joanne I don't think her she was like too too too bad like the way that y'all are saying it but if you do get that weird flavor like you're being grilled or that she's like overconfident even if you're handling the question spot so he'll be like what is she like what's going on my thing though is with with Christina like with the Christina

example I think good gameplay in the moment my worry is that it's still like it's good it's effective but it also comes across like a little abrasive and so now I worry that Savannah with a jury like she's not really going to have a fan

in like Juan she's not going to have a fan in Christina she you know some of these other people on the jury might she might have rubbed the wrong way a little bit and so that's my concern like I think this type of gameplay is very helpful for getting far in the game, but at the same time, I think it could be, like, leave a bad taste in the mouth of the jurors.

But it always is interesting when we get to the jury, right? Like, what type of jury will we have? Because it's like you could have a jury that you leave a bad taste in their mouth, or you could have a jury that's like, you know what? Hats off to whoever is there and what the game is like. So it will be, I think, interesting to see. And with the jury that we are announcing now, I think interesting and different perspectives

because we have a Nate who was super close to a Savannah and we talk about this a little bit where it's like people always say bitter jury and we've like kind of talked a lot about that but I don't necessarily y'all know my thoughts on that I don't necessarily think it's a bitter jury but I do also think it's like the narrative that can be told and we have someone like a Nate there

who is pro Savannah and like you know bouncing off ideas of MC and then here comes Alex but I do just We want to take our time in a moment to talk since we are at the jewelry. Again, I'm not saying that it's anything, but I do think it just should be brought up. We've made the merge, and we have four jewelry members now, and they all people are color. And I'm not saying that anything in the game, it's just an observation. An observation that I just like to put on the table. and what what a lot of okay and i i've been watching the discourse online and our buddy james

jones likes to just he'll put out there an image of the four black survivors that are sitting on the jury right now and say hey this this is what the jury looks like and he's right it's all black people on the jury right now and what one thing that I say is when we cast a lot more black people yes there will be more black people on the jury yes but there is something like

now I'm looking at it like man are these people almost now scared to even sit next to a black person at the end because there are so many black people sitting on the jury that's one thing that I'm wondering aside from all the things like I've seen people

talk about hey maybe maybe oh it was great to have this person or these people leading the charge while we were on a tribe and helping us so much and now we want to get rid of them kind of thing or

whatever the discourse is but now the way I'm looking at it now is like man do y'all just not want to sit next to a black person at the end because there's a black jury or were you all trying to avoid because historically there's never been five black people post jury i'm sorry post merge i if i'm not mistaken that's what i think i saw are y'all trying to avoid a cookout situation which i don't think would happen because these players weren't together they weren't together you know like you have black people voting each other out but uh

it's an interesting observation that now there's only one black person remaining when five of them entered the post-merge. I've also seen some discourse excuse. This is serious, bro. I know. Give me this. Clean it up.

That was I, I've also seen some discussion around that same topic. And I also saw like this discussion thread where someone was bringing up that the jury is for black people now. And then other people were saying like, well, the black people were voting for the black

people. And to that, I will say, yes, they did. And a part of the diversity initiative was that, like, you can be out there and you don't have to work with someone because you're black. Before, when it's only one or two people, it's like they already are going to pin you. So I just make that comment. And again, you could have your own take. You could have whatever. But it is just something to be noted. That's all. Sorry, Jack. Yes. And like you said, Bryce, the black people voted for the black people. First of all, when they voted for Nate, Nate is a really good player. And it wasn't a trend at that point. No, it was let's get this really good player out. Okay. And then you start seeing things. Now that it's happened, it's like, whoa, wait a minute. What is going on? Another thing I saw online is all, these players are just really bad players. And do, you can't. You. You can't. You. it's just bad gameplay that they're not there were there are some good players in there for various reasons and threats for various reasons mc was a true beast are you kidding me so and

alex you know he was he was maneuvering in in the middle a little bit here and they're like he so like we can't say that they're bad players yeah we can't say we can't attribute it all to like oh black people putting for each other to no it's yeah that did happen But also, this is what the jury looks like. Sorry. Jack, I'm sorry. Yeah, I agree. Definitely someone I've noticed, especially because people were celebrating at the merge,

like, you know, online. Like, this is the first time. There's been five black jury members. I think you can look at each, you know, vacuum and like each vote out kind of makes sense in a way. But then obviously four in a row, it's like, what are the underlying factors here that might be contributing to this, this. this narrative and also another like because i i totally agree with everything you guys are saying

but it's also an interesting addition to it of kind of what you were saying wendell like none of them out went out pre-merged but then when the merge hits it's all back to back right because if it was like the first five out in the game up top that it would be like what's what's the what's the issue here like something's going on um this makes it a little more complicated because it's like okay it wasn't all like right away but then they hit the merge it's like what's what are the other criteria that's now being factored in where this happens? And it's not, like, again, it's not, it's not the main criteria for each vote. But maybe there's a little sprinkle of something overall that's influencing that.

And I also just want to say, like, we're not saying that it is something or one way. I just want to say that we are just having the conversation. And I feel like that's also the taboo of the subject where it's like, we're having the conversation. That's all I just want to point out there, right? Like, it's because when you don't have the conversation, then it gets a little sticky or gets a little uncomfortable, but it's like we are having the conversation. And I think that that is good.

And I think that other podcasts or other people shouldn't shy away from it because it's like we should have this discussion. It's not like we're putting any fingers. It's just like what's going down. And I wonder, it's interesting, too, thinking of it from the player's standpoint, point of like if you're out there how much are you considering like optics not to say that that should or should not be considered but trust me I think if I was out there and I saw the

first four people on the journey we're all black people I'd probably be like what's going on here and maybe maybe let's not let's leave Christine in a little longer that's good but so you bring up a point now well it's interesting because now it's like now if you're left, now Christina is in an interesting position. Yeah, she is. And again, like, pre-diversity. She's the only black person on the island now. It's like, we've seen that a lot pre-diversity initiative.

And what I think is important, I think it's important that we talk about it. I think it's important that we at least highlight it because, again, Bryce, other podcasts aren't going to necessarily talk about. this. And I also, Jack, I think it's very important that you are bringing your perspective to this because we're two black men that have been on the island. And you're a white man who has not been on the island, but you see things, but you have a different perspective. You have a different lens. So it's important that, you know, we're speaking from our lens and we have a lot of listeners that have a similar perspective. And we have a lot of listeners that have a different

perspective and I'm sure they're going to be in the comments and we we appreciate those comments you know so just like we appreciate whatever you bring to this conversation when we talk about these things I know people are like exhausted about talking about race and this that and the third but if we're seeing these things the best way to come together or understand other people is to talk through things so I think I think this is a good platform for that Yeah, it's one of those things, too, where I think just bringing it up is good because it is one, it's a situation where it's like, oh, we, it's, it's not like there's necessarily blame to be put on anybody. That's not what I don't think any of us are trying to do, but it's like you, you kind of just bring it up. It's like, it's really more of a question.

It's like, why do we think this is happening? And so I think just introducing that question, putting on people's minds, maybe opening up the, the, some room for some discourse and for different ideas. is is important and yeah I don't know I definitely with you and yeah to what I said to what I said too it's like yeah for the people in the game it's like you're bouncing that and the optics and also like optics is one thing but also like even like within I guess like the optics like you obviously when you're out there you might be worried what people think when they watch but I think also when you're out there you should be treating it as if you know if nobody's watching still this is still something that should be addressed but then you're also battling for a million

dollars so it's like yeah you know you still have christina and part of me would be like you know let's not let's not put five off you know let's not put them all in the jury right away but say christia is the biggest threat to win the game then you're like well then she's also it makes things complicated and i think that's what makes survivor interesting as like a microcosm of society and that's why you know you said people might be tired of talking about stuff like this but it's like this is just a thing that exists in society. So it's naturally going to arise on survivor. And it's just important to discuss it in that sense.

And again, too, yeah, I think ultimately for me, it's like, it's sort of you think about like statistics. There's a classic thing is like correlation does not imply causation. So it's nothing to something that happens. We don't know that X, Y, or Z is like the blatant reason. But sometimes to me, it's like you notice a pattern. And it's like, well, you know, where's, it's not,

maybe it's not like a direct A to B correlation causation. It's not like, oh, these players are racist, like, that's why this is happening. But it might be like, what are all these little micro factors that are occurring that might have created this outcome? And that's like, can be really impossible to articulate, but I think

it's important to think about like, what are the little variables that might be influences and what can we all sort of adjust to maybe make it a little bit better. Yeah. I think I like the challenges.

I will have to go on a record and saying the challenges this season have been a little mixture of a lot of things. But I loved the especially I want to say it was the immunity challenge when they had to walk across the beam, dive in, get the clip, walk across it again. And then kind of like the basketball. That was a reward challenge. Oh, that was a reward channel. Was the water, like the water challenge? Yeah. Yeah.

I thought that was so much fun. And another thing that, again, shout out to another Purple Pants Powered podcast, split the vote with Tim and Rob. You're not listening to them, you should. Last week, Tim brought up this really good observation of we've been splitting these tribes up for immunity and like the tribes have been winning. I miss the mother days when it used to be one person will win reward

and then you pick people to go on the reward with you like I think with the amount of tribe swaps that we have had the amount of like people wanting the conversations it would have been great and so like I kind of miss those days and I know as the numbers are going to dwindle down they'll probably do it but I want y'all to do it when there's a lot of people so somebody can be pissed and like it really can show your hand of who you're working with

or if you're in a position where my back's against the wall and I need to talk to an Alex or I need to talk to a Steven. I'm going to pick them. I kind of miss them doing that when there's a larger number. It's a great point. I don't really think about that.

I also think that if you have the reward challenges, be more individual. It kind of highlights people's individual skills at this individual phase of the game. So I definitely agree. More of a mixture in that sense would be great. Like you said, I think as the numbers, go down like at at seven

they're not going to be splitting the teams I think it's going to be you know they're picking someone but I like the challenges this episode I thought the mini challenge a lot of fun they're adding some new components like the teeter totter was pretty cool um yeah I mean we talk about the reward challenge

I think we were talking about Christina this was a big moment for her is very emotional um but she she also at the same time powered through and her getting up off the beam I was I was like, I don't even know. In my mind, once you're at the bottom of the bean,

I was like, Christina, just drop back in and start over. He said, nah, like, I'm going to go crazy on this one. But, yeah, I thought, I mean, what were your guys' thoughts on that whole Christina arc, you know, this episode? I think she's been through a lot. And I think we always go through this conversation of like, 39 days isn't as hard as 26 days. 11 days was hard.

And I think that Survivor, it tests you in many ways that you can't. Of course, the gamers, it's a numbers game. I do this and that. But yeah, when you out there is raining, you're hungry. There's no cell phone, no TikTok. You're not on a call, Jack. And you are out in those elements. It really does test you.

And when your spirit is broke, sometimes, really hard and I think we've seen the Christina arc of her talking about her mom and I don't know, it just, it really broke me because when we were watching it at Fringe and Philly, I couldn't get the whole essence of what was going on. I just saw

Christina crying, I'm like, what's going on? But in the rewatch, her just saying I want my mom, like that would just kind of like hit me to the core and it also just, you know, them playing it on Thanksgiving Eve and we're talking about spinning holidays with our families. And it just reminds me that sometimes the holidays are a joyous time

and sometimes for people that have lost family, that don't have a lot of families, sometimes the holidays can be like such a lonely and isolating time. And so I do want to use this time on the podcast to remind our posse to reach out to your friends, reach out to your strong friends, reach out to your friends that you haven't heard in a while during the holidays. Extend an olive branch to invite them to your families or something to your family gatherings or doing something because the holidays, yes, it's the season of giving and we all love the rum chowder and the egg nog and the wrapping, the gifts and the, you know, there are great things. But sometimes people really do struggle during this holiday and just seeing Christina in that moment the night before

Thanksgiving and just crying out for her mom because she was having a hard time, really touched. And I think seeing her, like you said, Jack, power through. Because Lord knows if I would have been hanging on, child, I'm getting old. I was playfighting with Wendell the other day, Jack. I wanted to go hit him. And my arm said, cluck, cluck, cluck. So it's a lot. And so much love to Christina.

And I was so happy that she powered through. And I love how, I even as the shirkiest of the shark that Savannah is, she takes no She kill all the fish. She's a, she's a shark of a shark. And in that moment, Christina was like, do it for your mob. You can do it. I was just like, oh, I love the competitiveness of Survivor. And I also love the humanizing of it all where it's like we're all out here and we can see you going through something.

And to speak to, um, yeah, Survivor ain't easy, first of all. And it's harder for, and you have people that have been through a lot of real life things. and everyone's been through something different and you put them on an island and you starve them and you put them under duress and you don't know how people will respond. And we'll actually talk more about that with Joanne a little later,

but Joanne moved over and put his arm around Christina. And like I think there's something to be said there. You know, like he was the one that reached out to give her that comforting arm when she was going through. it. So much respect and much love for that, that little gesture. Joanne has,

Joanne has been telling us his story throughout this whole season of Survivor that, like, he's a provider. And we even, I think, were joking with him earlier on in the season when, I don't know, if he, like, lost something or he was trying to provide, or the fire. He couldn't get the fire. And he really took it to heart. And we're like, this day two, you okay? But, like, you know, we see this.

We continuously see him talk about. providing and even when they didn't win the reward. We even see Rizzo have a moment where Rizzo is kind of down and out and we don't really get the arc of what's going on. But we just know everyone's having a hard time. And like, Jawan says F the game. Let me go out and fish. Let me make this big moment.

And, you know, Jawan's two foot three. So he's out there in five foot water like swimming and like he's going deep in the water and getting fish and it's like him just like take that moment. to get that fish and provide for them. It meant a lot. And even just seeing Joanne at our watch party, having his siblings around and seeing his siblings watch him fish

and just like, I don't know, it's just, you know, we joke about Joanne a lot because that's our brother. But sad to see him go, but I love the fact that I felt like his story of him being a provider, him being like no matter what, like I'm going to be there for my friends. I feel like that arc came through

throughout the season. And so, you know, just a big shout out to Joanne. Yeah, it's interesting to see these things throughout the season and we're joking about Joanne and he gave us a lot of jocable moments. He's great TV. He's great.

His confessionals are great. The stuff, still in the wrong bag by accent. This, like, all these things are hilarious. It's great TV. He's also, he's playing the game and he's willing to make moves. You know, and then hearing a little bit about his family on the show and then seeing him, like, really wanting to protect his family, just seeing the kind of son and brother he is around his actual family at our watch party was just like, wow, like, you know, we saw, we heard about this out there and we see it in real life. And, yeah, it was, it was very, it was very good to see.

And, yeah, yeah, Joanne is a solid, solid, solid dude. 100%. And he's from the East Coast, 8,56, South Jersey. Yeah, and Jack knew him for a long time. And, you know. That's what I'm saying. Been chilling. You know my people always bring it.

But, yeah, I thought Joanne was great. And I was really happy yesterday, because last night after the episode, I was browsing the Reddit and just kind of speaking with the main topics and conversation. I mean, it's like, top out. Stop out, Jack, wait, Kim, sorry. I don't cuss me off a cuss of Jack out. Jack, when you browse the Reddit, you be like in your bed, you'd be sitting down.

Like, what's, what's the, what, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the I feel like, um, I feel like, you know, maybe, I think at one point you might have been watching a movie that I wasn't enjoying that much, so you know how to pull up. And so when you browse the Reddit, like, do you look for the one that has like the most Well, I usually just sort of by, like, top posts today. Oh, okay. One of the people talking about, you know, these are the main topics of conversation. We might want to touch on these other podcasts.

So, Jack got his story. But there was one that was, you know, a very popular post about, like, Jowon was great casting. And people in the comments were pouring out some love for Jowan. I know, I feel like throughout the season, he's had some ups and downs in terms of maybe how he's been portrayed and how people have perceived him. but I know and but I think that makes it such good casting so interesting is like it's complex

like he's got you know complex family dynamics sometimes he'll have some goofy moments but sometimes he'll put his strategic hat on and really play the game hard and I think all those things amalgamate to be a great character um you know how to throw that down but yeah and people in the comments it was all it was all love for jaun so I was very happy to see that that he left I know it was up and down for him. I haven't talked to him about it, but I think ultimately he left a very good mark on the game. So, yeah, I thought that was great.

And, you know, we were talking about Jawan being the victim of the vote this episode. I thought it was a great tribal to go out at. I mean, it was, yeah, I didn't want him to go home, but if you are going to go home, I think going home among some fireworks and just a really exciting travel, the most exciting travel this season, probably in my opinion. that's always an honorable way to go out. Yeah.

And so what did you guys think about? You know, we already touched a little bit on Sophie being the swing vote here and how the vote played out. But what do you only think about how the vote went down? Christina plays their idol for Stephen. A few different people get votes. You know, Jawan, Savannah, Rizzo all catch some votes.

And then Rizzo, you know, also playing his fake idol. There's a lot to unpack. Where do you guys? What caught your attention the most? So I think. I wanted to start with Sage, right? Sage had the plan of wanting to get Savannah out. Also, in Sage's plan, she wanted to flush the idol.

I think there were some eras in house, like, I think Sage wanted a lot to happen. And I think if Sage would have maybe could have focused her energy a little on one thing, I think maybe it could have been a little more successful. That's just my one take on, like, Sage and how it didn't go her way at all. this Riz Idol I want to know your thoughts on it because my mind I'm like

okay you played a fake idol for Savannah obviously for the theatrics of it but the way I interpreted it was is Rizzo playing the people out there do you believe now the consensus is he never had an idol he had a fake idol or like because I would think if I'm sitting there

and you play this idol and Jeff says it's not real, I would be like, the whole time he's had a fake idol. So I thought that could have been really nuance. So, Bryce, I hear you. I think that would have been really cool. And I was thinking that at first. I think you and I had a brief discussion about it.

But I think his intention was, I'm going to play it and see who's with me. I'm a scope the scene to see what's going on. Savannah, if you, if you clocked it, was looking right at, um, was looking right at Jawan. And I think, and then Jawan was like, yo, Riz play the Rural, I think they were just trying to clock the scene when he was playing it. I, I think that was his intention. Also, the way, first of all, they came into the tribal with a whole lot of confidence. The way tribal opened up, Riz is like, hey, this is where the lights are on. You know, I'm going to perform. He was Riz

Urkel and and then after they voted Joanne out after it was success first of all they were checking him while the votes were being read Savannah was like who wasn't you he's like

yeah and then the votes switch and it was like but also Riz stands up ready to take all the credit and Jouan's still kind of confused and saying who did this that and third Riz was like so

the way I look at it it was Riz doing that so they could see like in real time kind of who's with them is that effective though huh is that effective though I don't know but shoot if anything crazy could have happened

he could have still busted out the real one pulse you know like he could have so I just think it was a way of testing things which we've seen before I think we saw Rachel do something where she seen someone

test the waters before like you're shot in the dark yeah so I just think that it was more yeah I think he had too much confidence and swagger before during and after as opposed to him acting like

oh my gosh it was fake or I don't know I don't know I don't yeah no I think his main intention was to get a gauge on people and I think that can work I don't know if you want to put all your eggs in that basket because you could easily be outplayed in that sense.

But I think someone said that, like, I think when it was revealed that it was fake, you could see Sage kind of like, like, thank God. And so knowing that, it's like, okay, Rizzo knows he's good then because if anything, maybe the votes on Savannah, but then they also have, like, a plan, their own plan. It's a good question, though, Bryce, with it being potentially fake, I'm kind of trying to remember back to when he actually found it,

who all was there. because if you see him find the actual one, you might know that this is a fake one. It's his people. Nate, Samantha, like, it was the blue. Yeah, that's what I thought. So, yeah, maybe now it's like, you know, it could have been good to have it where,

oh, Rizzo doesn't have an idol anymore, because now you can actually, at the set, seven, you can just play it as more of a surprise. But I do agree, like, with Wendell, he had so much confidence. I feel like Rizzo likes to claim his moves where maybe he'll straight up just be like, no, I still have mine.

I just wanted to get a sense of where things were at. But who knows? I mean, I thought it was good. I thought it was helpful, maybe not majorly helpful, but at least like somewhat. And I think also Rizzo is the type where Jeff is like, you know, we're still casting spots on 50. Rizzo's like, all right, I got to put on a show every time I said the Bible.

it clearly it worked out so um you know sometimes i think it can be a little corny when people try to i don't think this instance was but i think sometimes people out travel will try to put on too much of a show and it can be like right why are we doing all that but i think in this instance when you have something that really does have an impact on the vote and whether you're making your player pointing your idol and this and that i think it's i think it's good show so um yeah props to Rizzo. Yeah. I also think it kind of, again,

I understand Sage wanted to flush Christina's idol out, but, and ultimately she did, but why I don't think it was the best move for her in the sense because the plans got flipped, you lost your number one, and now somebody that you could be potentially working with who's on the side of the fashkin

that you are on. now an artillery even though you're not directly working with them but now who you're going to work with now right like maybe flushing that idol wasn't the best thing for you from whose standpoint from Sage's standpoint

like Sage wanted to flush Christina's idol right that was her big thing was that the main priority well that was after they were after she was dead set on Savannah she then amended the document and was like I want to flush Christina's

idol out too. And so what I'm saying, that's what I was saying. I was like, I felt like Sage was kind of doing too much in her plan because now plan didn't work, you lost your best friends and your closest ally and somebody that is not on Briss, Savannah, and Sophie's side. Now they just lost something that could potentially have protected you and went against them. So I'm just saying like, it wasn't a great day for safe.

I think, I think Sage's plans are always pretty solid. It's just people don't always buy all the way. Right. I mean, look, the idol being back, because I don't know if Christine is going to play an idol for safe. So the idol being back out there gives her an opportunity to maybe find something. Then again, you know, if Savannah or Sophie B go find that idol put a bow on it, it's a rat. Like, you know, it could be tough. But I don't know.

I think Sage is always thinking pretty smartly. It's just people aren't always subscribing to the plan. I agree. Do we think that her being so. focused on Savannah might be a detriment to her game. I don't think so. Like, yes and no,

because she's been right. I just haven't been listening to her. But then at what point, like, but then what do you do? Yeah. You just like... You have to try to keep a comp, like achieving the thing

that you think is the best move, right? Like, if, it's not like it, if Savannah's not working, I don't know, I don't know, if Sophie B is going to be an easier target to get people, on board with and then it's like oh you know she shouldn't just pivot and be like all right I guess let's get Stephen I don't agree but like let's get Steve you know um I think do you guys

I thought they were going to go sage over Joanne so did I um maybe out there because sage kind of plays into being a little bit goofier maybe they thought joan was more of a threat but I think we've seen that sage is kind of the one guiding a lot of the strategy and she's more connected to Stephen and um all that so um and also we know sage sage comes back with a little bit more of a vengeance you know joan at this blind side happening you probably like oh like you got me that's cool like this good gameplay and probably bounce back and be ready to work with whoever sage is like if you cross her yeah you got it so now i'm curious to see you know sage's revenge maybe maybe she goes and finds that idol that just got played and maybe she's able to make some things happen

And I hope something gets shaken up. You make a good point, though, right? Because I'm with you. I would have thought that they would have picked Sage because she has been the more strategic one. So clearly they're thinking that's Joanne. So I would love to see a Sage's revenge where they're clearly not going to be,

they're thinking they suck the head off the snake with Joanne and Sage. So now they're going to be sadly mistaken when they realize they suck the wrong snake's head, which happens, does happen. paid a time or two, but if at first you don't succeed, dust yourself off and suck the nuts snakes head off. So it

will be interesting to see how Sage recovers from this and the fact that she still is very smart, savvy, mind, locked in the game with the numbers that she works with. My interesting point will be like how

I'm curious to see how yellow, Sophie, and Sage connect after this, right? Because it would be interesting because they two are kind of in the middle and if they two can lock in that could be something interesting because I think that they could be the antidote to a Sophie B, a Savannah and a Riz and they two lock in because that could be a powerful duo and we also see now sometimes these teasers are a little misleading sometimes the teaser is a little misleading but we also see it seems like Sophie B might be willing to play.

ball and so that could be really interesting if Sophie B switches up and honestly right now it's the time it's the time and I also think Sophie B I think Sophie B right now would be my

winner pick I know a lot of people have been saying one of the two that are on 50 I don't know I think it could be I'm kind of with you I'm Jack I'm kind of With you. She sells the knowledge as power.

If she were to suck the head off of Savannah or Rizzo, baby! Now, what I would say for her, there's seven left. I don't know if seven is the time. I almost think six is the time for her to make the move. But, Jack, do the numbers for me. Yeah. You say six, seven a time.

If Sophie B's first move was to play her knowledge's power and strip Rizzo of his idol at tribal, right? That would leave him vulnerable. That would guarantee. And maybe they vote him out. That's her at seven, right? Yeah. Then next week episode, if she just simply plays the idol. that now puts her at six

at five at five right like walk me through this does that like take me through that is that like that could be a recipe for well no 100% that's what but I think I think right now she's not on a ton of people's radars and I think at seven you could take out like a Stephen and then at six you grab sage you get Christina

maybe you get Sophie S even if you have three she's going to know who they're going to vote on the other side you get Sophie you get Sophia or you get Christina you get Sage and then you maybe it's at three

but then it's like okay you could steal the idol and then vote whoever you want maybe she would have to play the idol so that it doesn't to avoid a tie but also I feel like Sophie S would probably play ball also like I think you flip with you try to get four with so if yes like take the idol vote out

rizzo or savanna and then at five then you that's when you have the idol you play it at five then you're good to four because I'm worried now I think the way you propose it also works but then I'm worried at five you just took the idol at seven blindsided like a rizzo or savanna and you played it at six although I guess you could hold it for five but if you get to five with no idol after doing all that, then I'm a little worried about the target that could be on her. But maybe, I don't disagree.

And that seems like maybe that's what she's thinking next week is like, if I make this move at seven, I'll have an idol for six and five, like six or five, which at that point is like, is someone really going to try to blindside you at six with your idol? Like, unlikely. So I think it could be a really good,

I think that's Sophie, that's why she's played it so well. She got in good. She's been in the majority, but she's not like the target. she's not the one running the show and now she has this opportunity to line up some moves for the rest of the way.

Not only is she not the one of running the show but or by the optics but she orchestrated the hey let's get the swing out and hey let's give it to Sophie S, yellow Sophie as far as

PICS John, yeah and say she gets out of Savannah and Arrizzo and they're on the jewelry she always has the option to say like yeah I withheld this from y'all because y'all were together from day one and it was just me and I had to at least just protect my life she's like she got some am you she

yeah she got some she got some got she got something she got something in her notebook 100% if she were to make it to the end and they weren't they would vote for her they were rocking And that's like Dom making it to the end and not me. Like, he got my vote. You picked me off.

You did it. We were rocking together and you beat me. Yeah. Yeah, I think she would have a lot of favor with the jury. Even if she took out of Arizona, Savannah, I feel like they respect the game. So, yeah, if she plays this end game well, I think she's got the best resume. So, yeah, it'll be interesting. It'll be interesting to see it.

Because I know a lot of people are theorizing, oh, like, one of the two that are on 50 are going to win because then it's like there's one winner per tribe or whatever. But I'm like, I don't know, it's not that, it's not like that, it's not like that obvious all the time. And also this is Survivor. This is the greatest game. And for them to make it that out, like the best thing that they could do is have both of those 50 people not win this season 49. because that would play the hell out of all of us, assuming that is one of them. Well, also, it's like if they're doing casting

and they have those two winners, they're not automatically just going to be like, all right, whoever wins is on. Whoever wins 49 is on. Like, what if the winner was not the most entertaining character? Right. You know, so I think their mindset will be like, let's pick the best man and the best woman.

And, like, we'll make it. I mean, I guess maybe it wasn't always a guarantee that there would be two from 49. on there. But, like, yeah, I feel like everyone was assuming there'd be a winner per try. But, like, I don't, I don't necessarily think that that's, but I'm glad, I'm glad that that's kind of up in the air, because it's like, I wouldn't want to know for, for sure. So maybe this is me holding out hope that something else happens, but.

Definitely. But I do, I think Savannah's game is really, really fun, but I do worry about her with a jury of maybe rubbing some people that are all wet. But Rizzo, you know, Rizzo's also on track to playing a really good winning game right now, too. But look, if Sophie B, Sophie B with the knowledge is power, like the ball's in her court,

she could throw Rizzo off if she wants, you know. So. And that's what you got to do if you want to win. So it's interesting. The game sure is heating up and your baby boys are locked in, giving you our raw, unfiltered take, as we always do.

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