RHAP: We Know Survivor - Purple Pants Podcast | Survivor 50 Ep 5 Recap – Kyle’s Last Wish ft. Davie Rickenbacker

Episode Date: March 27, 2026

Purple Pants Podcast | Survivor 50 Ep 5 Recap – Kyle’s Last Wish ft. Davie Rickenbacker The baby boys Brice and Jack are back this week with special guest Davie Rickenbacker from Survivor: David vs. Goliath, breaking down a chaotic episode of Survivor 50 where old tension finally boils over. With the Charlie vs. Rizo feud taking center stage and Christian and Angelina both caught in the chaos on a tribe heading back to Tribal Council, emotions are high, trust is thin, and every vote feels personal. Brice, Jack, and Davie dig into the confrontations, the shifting power, and how this double Tribal episode pushes the game into an even messier phase. Tickets and updates for Brice and Wen 50 events:https://briceandwenpresent.flite.city/ You can also watch along on Brice Izyah’s YouTube channel to watch us break it all down https://youtube.com/channel/UCFlglGPPamVHaNAb0tL_s7g LISTEN: Subscribe to the Purple Pants podcast feed  WATCH: Watch and subscribe to the podcast on YouTube SUPPORT: Become a RHAP Patron for bonus content, access to Facebook and Discord groups plus more great perks! Previously on the Purple Pants Podcast Feed: Purple Pants Podcast Archives

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I might have said his last name wrong, but you know. was all with love with Davy from David versus Goliath and we are breaking down all things. Episode 5 we're getting into the Christian and Ozzie. We're getting into the bad blood with Rizzo and

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Dot, dot, dot. What's up? What's up? And welcome back to the Purple Pants podcast, Survivor News. Your favorite Survivor's favorite Survivor podcast. Survivor Season 50 Episode 5. We are back with

The Man, the Myth, the Legend. One of my favorite movies ever, Casper, the friendly Jackery. We got Jack Atkins. Jack is in Las Vegas. He's in a hotel room. The sun is shining

bright. Even before Jack gives us an answer, Jack, have you been gambling at all since you're in Las Vegas? Well, you know I'm not much of a gambler, but I didn't play poker last night. Oh. No, no, I was gambling last.

My dad, I'm just here with my dad. Shout out to Ben. Shout out to Ben. We're not getting anything too crazy. You know, I feel like a boys trip to Vegas much different than a trip with your family. But this is a boys trip in a way. And yeah, we played poker last night.

And, you know, what can I say? I do pretty well. Forget about how you did, how did Ben do? He didn't do as well. Everyone has their good and their bad days. Shout out to Zaddy Atkins. Well, okay, when Deasy isn't here this week, he is driving back from Montreal,

and there is a reason why Bryce and When is named Bryce and When because Bryce flew and Wen droove. We have, yeah, we have a legend with us in the presence. You may know, this man has a lot of accolades. And so this man and I also,

the only way we communicate is via gifts and via talking shit. So we're going to keep it very cute. But the man, the myth, the legend from David versus Goliath. You might know him if you are a blurred. You might know him.

If you go to the, the comic, I don't want to say fairs, but the comic conventions. Yes, yes. You might know him from TikTok, you might know him from Snapchat, you might know him from

where is Davy. We have Davy with us. What's popping with your Davey? Yes, yes. Thank you, man. Yeah, I guess I'm a great value window today. taking his spot. It's your boy.

Where's Davey? You know, I'm excited. This is my very first appearance on the Purple Pants podcast. So I'm a little nervous, but I think I'm in good company with Bryce and Jack, and they're going to take care of me.

And also, I'm just realizing, I don't need these goddamn headphones in because I can hear you in my laptop. I don't know why I even brought these. Like, Window isn't here, but Wendell is still here, because that's something that Wendell does every episode. And we don't understand.

Yeah, Davey, it's long overdue. It's really excited that you're on with us this week. I mean, there's so much good stuff to talk about not only with this season, but I feel like you've got some unique perspectives about the season as well. So I feel like there's no better person to be here with us to talk through it all. For sure, man. Well, you're right, Jack. But I got to talk a little shit with Davey.

Because this season on season 50, and I do want to be serious, but I do want to be funny, right? Where we do know, Davey, you went very deep into the casting process. And you were supposed to be on our screens. And Jack has been one of the components, has been saying, like, I need Davey on my screen.

So I would love to just know, what is it like for you watching this season, knowing that this is something you could have been on, or this is like you should be on. You know what? And I'm so happy I can talk about this now because had you have asked me about this to podcast for season 48 or for season 49, I would have said, no, Bryce.

Because I was going through it, man. You know, for you to have, and you guys know, I've been in the running for a lot of shows. And for you to get further and further. and further each time. And I feel like Survivors my bread and butter. Oh, I know they're going to pick me. I know they're going to pick me.

I'm going to tell you why I really thought I was going to make it on this season. During my homecoming, Tuskegee's homecoming, and maybe I shouldn't say the name of the school because it's not a great reason. But there was a quote unquote mass shooting at the homecoming. And it was some local stuff. It wasn't, you know, within the school. But casting called me. They were like, Davey, are you okay?

Are you okay? I'm like, they are a little more concerned than I would expect them to be. So I was like, okay, I'm in good running for this season. But yeah, man, it ended up not happening. But I took an entire year off just to, you know, work on myself, work on my Snapchat, work on my Instagram, work on my social media side. And all of that did me some good, but these Snapchat goggles. What is that, Bryce?

But I mean, these people are not even just Christian and Angelina. They are my real friends in real life. Like, I want to support these guys. And Survivor is my first love. Okay, The Walking Dead is probably my main love. But Survivor might be my main chick, you know? And I want to show them some love. I want to be able to not be jealous of them out there.

Maybe it's a little bit of envy. But I want to support my love. friends. Now, I will say as of late, and I don't know if we need to get into this so soon, but, you know, I was also a fan of the challenge, and I feel like one thing that the challenge does great

that Survivor could maybe take a page out of their books sometimes is whenever somebody is injured or gets in a fight, you know what they'll do? They'll call an alternate up. And I feel like

when Kyle busted his knee, I should have got to rain because I would have came in there guns ablazing and we would have took this thing to the next level. But hey, I say all that to say, I'm loving the season. I'm rooting for my people and hopefully, you know, me, hopefully, you know, he, hopefully maybe even he might get another chance out there again, you know. We'll see. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Well, maybe you mentioned maybe swooping in last minute for Kyle on your original season. you were kind of a last minute flyout, right? Yeah, for a lot of people who I don't know if your listeners know. Actually, I do know your listeners know because they're big fans of, they're big fans of Surrey. And I don't think this is a breaking scoop anymore. But Jared, who we call Poo, was supposed to be on David versus Goliath originally.

As a matter of fact, I got a text from him recently or by proxy of someone else. And he was like, you wouldn't have even been on. It wasn't for me. I was like, well, you know what? He's probably right. Because I don't know if they said that I was going to be on Survivor 38 with Rick Devons. But I really feel like they told me that so that I would say yes to Survivor 37.

So you never know with casting when it comes to these games and whatever they're going to do to do what they do. But yeah, man, I was an alternate for Survivor Dave versus the life. not even just an alternate, right? Because we know from last season, season 49, Sage, when Sage went on to talk about a lot of the pregame that was happening, she utilized her perspective from the previous season

because she was there at Ponderosa. And so if some of the posse that is listening, they normally fly alternates out. And so alternates will fly out. And I don't want to say nothing to say nothing to say nothing, but just know the Possible. I see no somalternist but anyway

but what I will say is that I feel like Davey your experience is unique because like you weren't at Ponderosa like and why I love the term where is Davey

because Davey Davey was at home he agreed Davey had and sometimes I feel like when I watch your interviews Davy I feel like you don't do yourself justice in the respect of like you, my brother, I love you. Where it's like, you went through the process, Davy.

Like, it kind of was like, they was like, thank you. Maybe next season. Then, while the cast is out on location, they're calling Davey. Davy has to, he got to pack up his chainsaws because you know Davey loves costumes. He got to, and Davey flies out. And so, Dave, your experience is so unique where, like, yes, you are. alternate, but you are like a true alternate where like last minute. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, so much so. I think I can go on record here. Well, I don't know if I can go on record here because I don't know what production

does. Okay, let's go on record. I think that because of me and Jared's situation, that's when they said, okay, we're going to have to start flying the alternates out there too. Because they didn't want to be in another predicament like that again. Maybe me and Jared started a new rule. So hey. That's crazy. Also, I just want to, before we get into that episode, just, I want to discuss Davey out a little bit because again, Davey, I'm your friend. I'm your brother. I've been watching your press run.

I always watch you, whether you are in purple face, whether you are a Pokemon, whether I always watch. And so I watch your press runs. and Davey, you loved to say you were on hiatus during this process. Like, you know, Dave said he was taking a break. Yeah, yeah. I'm kind of confused how he was taking a break because last year he was at a Bryson win, okay? I watched the TikTok. You still post.

So I always, whatever Davey say, he took a break, I'm like, well, what type of a break was he talking about? Because he still posts about it. He was still at events. But, okay. Yeah, well, you know, I make exceptions for my family. You know, if Bryce and Window hit me up and they're coming to Atlanta, there's no way that I'm not going to be at that event. And when I say break from Survivor, I mean mainly a break from watching the show.

Okay. Not going to the event, not posting about it, not wear your Survivor shirt. I'm a content, I'm a content creator, man. I got to do that's part of them, but that's how I make my money. That's how I make my bread, right? You know that. But no, I did not watch 48 and I did not watch 49. So that story you just told me about this alternate whose name I can't even call right now.

Oh, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about 51. Well, you were talking about Sage on. Oh, I'll say. Yeah. I don't think she was an alternate, though. No, no. No, she was.

She was an alternate 47. Oh, okay, okay. I thought both the alternates on 49 were on the yellow tribe. No, Sage was a confirmed cast member for 49. Oh, but wasn't an alternative. Orniz. Oh, that's what I'm saying, where, like, her experience is different than Davies because Davy wasn't out there with them.

Yeah, and now in the new era, most of the people that were, alternates got brought back on a later season as well. And what Davey is saying is because, it's because where is baby? Okay. And now they don't have to ask that, they're at Ponderosa. But before we get into anything,

we got to get into some House Rules, church announcements. Just getting back from Montreal. Shout out to Montreal. Mercy, Buku. Mercy. Montreal showed us so much love, so much love that I'm here back in Philadelphia.

Window is still traveling back. Also, huge shout out to Dallas for Ozzy. Dallas showed out. Dallas was amazing. Photos. pictures and videos will, you know, follow suit. But with all of that being said, Wendo and I are still on the road to 50,

and so is Ozzy. And so next week, we will be in Atlanta, Davies hometown, the A, for a karaoke party. Then we'll go to Ron Clark for the legendary Ron Clark. And then following that, Window and I will be in San Francisco. Tickets are available. Ozzie, newly announced.

This hasn't even been announced to the world yet, but I'm announcing it now on Survivor News. Ozzie and Sophie will be in Miami, April 15th. Okay? Let that simmer in. And we still have Boston coming up. Window, myself, and Ethan will be in Boston with some very special guests headed to St. Louis as well and the rest of the Bryson One tour.

Please click the link in this YouTube bio and get your tickets or click the link in the Bryce Isaiah or Window Holland or Bryson Wend Present. Hopefully we'll see Jack along the road, Jack, you know, we got some stops for you. I think Las Vegas is coming up, so maybe you could just stay a couple of weeks

and we can get... When's that? TBD. On TVD? TBD or click on my schedule. I don't even have a date yet, right? Oh, wait, now, I can tell you now. Hold on one second because I...

No, no, we can figure it out. Maybe this is a TBA, but you can tell me off, off camera. I'm going to tell you on camera. Whoa. But it's an easy trip, man. I'll definitely come out. Is Zelensky still in Vegas? I'm going to...

I hit on to Winski and he said, how long you're here for? That's cold for. That's cold for. I'm busy. Sorry. How long do I have to say I'm busy for? Okay.

Sorry, I missed you. But April 8th. April 8th, Los Vegas, get ready. Okay, but listen. Oh, that's like two weeks late. You could say, but it's literally like a 45-minute flight. I might pop back out. Okay, Jack.

I might bring the squad. The squad being Ben? Maybe. Okay. Hotels all day. Okay, listen. It's never too early to plan your summer story in Europe with WestJet, From rolling countryside to cobblestone streets, begin your next chapter.

Book your seat at westjet.com or call your travel agent. Westjet, where your story takes off. I think Rizzo said this episode that Rizzo said that he's a guy's girl. And on this podcast, this podcast is a mom's podcast. And so before we get into everything, we just want to shout out the moms. Shout out to Christine Atkins, Jack's mom, because we know she listens. And shout out to the queen, the legend. Hazel, okay?

Hazel is the star. She recently, and by recent, I mean, in the last couple of months, celebrated a birthday. And she stayed texting the baby boys. Stay commenting on one of the photos. Stay sending the hearts. Stay in the DMs. Talk about, did you see my comment?

Yes, Ms. Hazel, I saw it. And we love you. So shout out to the moms. This is the girl. Shout out to Barb. And shout out to Barb. Yeah, put some respect on the name. Sorry, my bad.

Shout out to Barb. And, David, before we dive in, I also want to put a little, like, we were talking about you with 50 potentially. I just want to say, you know, you went deep. And I know I'm sure a lot of people when they didn't make the cut took it hard. I feel like, A, for you, it's a great sign that you went so far. And I'm hoping that, you know, 50s had a lot of buzz. Hopefully there's some more returning season. I feel very good about your chances to get back on our screen.

So fingers crossed for that. And also just respect the way that it seems like you took it all in strike. Because I remember when the cast got announced, everyone was online. Like, I can't believe I got cut. Like, you know, and I feel like you handled it. And, well, I don't know if you saw any of that. No. I feel like you, oh, you, there was a lot.

There was a lot of that. David was texting. David was texting people. Yeah, fair enough. I feel like, Davey, you handled it real smooth, which also, again, in the long run, I think that's going to help you out, too. Not that you need to hear it from me, but I just know. I know it's going to be, it's going to be sometime soon that we're going to see you again. So I'm just excited for that, and I'm excited that you're on with us.

Dude, that means a lot. Let's just hope I don't ruin those chances of whatever I say on this podcast. Nah, never, never. We're good. we're good. Jeff's just on your live stream. Right. Right.

Right. Yeah. Well, where do we want to go? Because you're also reminding me a funny story of Davey and I where I was never supposed to be on 50. But when they sent the mass calls out, you know, they did text me and just say, hey, is this Bryce? I said yes. But there were rumors on. online that started to take legs that like I was in the running for 50 and it was funny to see the

people that would reach out. Now, mind you, Davy and I are always in contact or some shape or form, but you know, well, you get a message from Dave, talk about happy Sunday, brother. Like you know, it's like, oh my God. I'm like, well, well, it's Thursday. But I was the first day to you too, Dave. Oh, man, I probably was just doing some check-ins, you know. Yeah, yeah. That's all.

Jack, take us a wife. You free for anything in April? Would love to catch up. Did I ever memo you back from that time we went out, Bryce? I want to make sure we're all good. See, that's why I like to send voice notes so people can't screenshot me. not to. Although now I realize with the voice notes, the transcripts

and they translate it. And you can save them. But okay, but here's the thing, what I don't like about the translation, because sometimes, like, I won't listen to it. I'll read it. But then when I go to and listen to it, it's completely different from the translation. It doesn't translate ebonics

very well. I've learned that. Like, the way I'm talking to you right now, it ain't going to get that. And there's really no like punctuation. So I'll be trying to read through it. I don't know. Right. In the run on sentence is going on. But listen, running all we 20 minutes in this season on Survivor News, Davy, Jack runs a very strict schedule. So Jack don't really like all of this talk is. So I don't want to get in trouble off air from Casper, the friendly Jack. So, Jeff.

Yeah, I'm going to holl it to you, Bryce. I love the talk, Davey. I love the talk. All that happened was the first episode. I was like, hey, it's 50. We might have some new history. Is that how you said it though, Jack? Is that how you said it?

Well, I mean, Jeff was doing impressions this episode. What was your impression of how I said it? Davey, Jack was like, bitch, shut the. It's a great episode. We've got a lot of white men here. Oh my God. I said, okay. That's hilarious.

I bet. You down it. Well, take us away, Jack, because we can go a lot of different ways. A lot of things happen. Where are you going to start? Man. I mean, overall, I thought it was a very good episode. Yeah.

You know, thank God they got rid of Zach Brown. And we were back to some good old Survivor. That was a good friend. I thought, you know, because I was gambling last night with my pops, we were, you know, we were, we were playing while the episode was airing. So I came back to the hotel about 12, 15 a.m., come up in my bed and just washed it, but no commercials. So the pacing, I don't know if it was just because I had no commercials, but the pacing was great. Even all the scenes that they showed up top before they got into the challenge felt like a lot of, like great stuff. And then I look and I'm like, oh, we're only like a quarter of the way through the episode.

We've already seen coach bestowing nicknames on everybody. We've seen Rizzo starting to work the room a little bit. And having the double tribal I thought was fun too because it was there. I thought the editing was just really solid. I was the conflict that I have, you know, as a buddy of Charlie's, it was really, it was tough to watch. Like it was, like, you could see like the, the, the, the ghosts of 46 pass. And they didn't look like me, the ghost. You could see the ghost of 46 past really.

And it's been kind of his storyline the whole season. But in a way, it felt like maybe he was building towards maybe some redemption. But it all kind of came crashing down. and it was just it just felt like it almost went a little bit beyond the game just the way that it was affecting him and it just was tough to see that that part of him um but that's i mean we talked up we talked early in the season you know davy going in about you know with any returning season there's the balance of based on your first especially a second time around but really any any version whatever um is it like how much you balance the game you played the first time, right? Like, how well did it work for you in that instance? If you didn't win, you might be thinking about, well, what else do I need to change that I need to do to win?

And sometimes that can lead to overcorrecting. And sometimes I think the people that make those slight tweaks and find that sweet spot can really improve. And then even for the people that did win, there's an element of like, okay, well, this was the game I played that I did win. Maybe that's what people are expecting. maybe I also still have to change it up a little bit. And so I feel like in these returning seasons,

it's really like watching how do people play and how do they like sometimes people overcorrect. Some people sometimes people don't change at all. And like I said, those people that can make those minor tweaks, kind of like a Jeremy Collins and second chances, victorious. And sometimes players overcorrect so aggressively.

There's things from their past seasons that they get so hyper-fixated on, sort of like a Stephen Fishback in second chances where he sees Joe Anglum as his JT. And he cannot fall victim to JT again. He has to get out Joe. And he just tunnel visions on Joe and it ends up being his demise. That's sort of what happens to Charlie this season. He gets so tied up in the trauma that Maria caused by not voting for him that he hyperfixates on Rizzo.

And the whole thing, too, the, the, The tough part also is it's all predicated on a lie that Rizzo told of the fact that Sophie was his number one. When in reality, Charlie's probably going to go to Ponderosa and get the lowdown from Savannah. And she's going to be like, oh, no, I was Rizzo's number one. And Charlie's going to be like, oh, my God. Wow. But obviously, all this to say, I know I'm kind of rambling, but all this to say, like, we, this is another instance of Charlie's fixation on the problems of his game from 46, which weren't really even his fault, I would say,

in trying to rectify those mistakes and it becomes his downfall. So, like, storytelling-wise, incredible, but as someone who's like a friend and a supporter of Charlie, it's like, it's tough because it cut deep. What did you guys? Well, that's what I was going to say.

And I don't want to give them too many props this episode because I got some bones to pick with editing. But the editing of way on them to play on Charlie's trauma in a fun way. You know in the, what do you call the non-returny seasons, the regular seasons, they'll play on your traumas in real life. But in these seasons, they're playing on your trauma from past games, which I think is amazing. However, you know, I got a, and I haven't seen any exit press. or anything like that.

But I seriously doubt that that was Charlie's only issue with Rizzo. Of course, I love the Rizzo versus the Charlie of it all. But I feel like Charlie is very smart. He knows that this is a television show, and he's also a great storyteller. I bet in the back of his mind, he's like, hmm, I see coaching Ozzy out here. maybe someday me and Rizzo when we're 50 or 60 years old actually I don't know how old they are let me not say that

but maybe someday in the future maybe me and Rizzo could have our own a freaking frack or duel or maybe even a coach's season you know but like I said I seriously doubt that that was his only issue with Rizzo Bryce what do you think like it's interesting because

us as viewers we know that that's Charlie's Achilles heel but up into this episode Charlie and Rizzo Rizzo told Charlie about the Billy Irish idol right so it's like we know that they were working together and like I'm a personal

friend of Charlie and I know that Charlie is not a one dimensional person right where it's like he's planting seeds he's we we see Charlie working with Jonathan right like you know like for me that's that's like oh

right? And so for me, I feel like we're only getting one side of Charlie's edit. And so although it's a, it's, ooh, but like I, in my heart of hearts, I know that this wasn't the only thing that Charlie was fixating on. But what I do find so interesting is that like we keep talking about the past traumas. And like you said, Davey, when it's a newbie season, we're just learning these people. So they're telling us about their trauma and we're seeing how it plays out. One of the beautiful things about 50 is that right. Like it is like traumas that we have seen. And so there have been a lot of different beefs on this season where it was Charlie and Rizzo, right?

And so like, Charlie, Rizzo, Rizzo, winner. We still have Genevieve, Aubrey. Like that battle is still going. We still have Joe. versus Surrey and Rick Devins, right? Like that battle was still up for airs. We still have Ozzy and Christian. And Ozzy and coach and now Ozzy and Christian.

So it's like, we still have Tiffany in the editors. Yeah, we still have Tiffany in editors. We still have Stephanie and Eliza. But we still have. There is so much, right? And so although one of the reasons why I love this season 50, and I will go on record and say outside of Zach Brown, I love 50 because it's not what I expected.

And there are so many people that I love. When I watch a movie, I don't want to watch a movie and be like, oh, the people like, I need somebody that I love to die for me to be like, damn, you know, boys in the hood at the end when he running there, on the Ali Davy? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he gets shot and you're like, why? Like, so it is, it's so interesting.

And so I do want to kind of take it back to the beginning of the episode where we see Ozzy. A lot of Ozzy's talk this season is like, Ozzie, what the hell is you doing? Like, are you playing the game? We know that he's relied on the previous seasons, like him with three.

And I kind of feel like Ozzy coming back after being blindsided from his potential spot on season four of the White Lotus, Ozzy was like, why did y'all, why did you cancel my cameo? Yeah, exactly. And I think seeing Oscar that mad and seeing him and the way that they reacted to it, then the next morning, you know Ozzy's like, breathe in, and like that's the old Ozzy.

And like, when he went to Christian and was like, I want to trust you. Mm-hmm. I need to trust you. Yeah. But I can't trust you.

Mm-hmm. What I can trust is if you, you give me that shot in the dark. And I'm like, okay. Oh. Yeah.

Oh. Some leverage. Mm-hmm. That, like, and again, to see, not to say that Christian, that Christian capitulated to it, but

Ozzy had Stephanie. He absolutely did. You know, Stephanie this way, that way. Stephanie, like, I'm the only person that knows that Ozzy has the idol. So we're stuck like, well, girl, if you're the only person that knows he has the idol, like maybe you should have told him.

But then you talk about, well, I wanted to make sure Mike went home. So it's like, and I'm not mad at Stephanie. Stephanie like let me get Ozzy pissed. Let me explain to Ozzy why I need to work with him. Ozzie going to Emily. Like I really love the way that Ozzy navigated this because sometimes I feel like when you come back, I feel like when you come back from tribal and it's black and white and people is yelling, I'm like, it don't normally go well for the person that is yelling. No, never. Especially when they give us that much footage.

And so I felt like, I was like, okay, Ozzy. Like, I like how you let the mother know you're pissed and that you're the only person that's winning challenges with y'all. But I also like how he reeled it back in. I like how he was like, I need this from you. I need this from you. And because, like, in my mind, I'm like, why Ozzy's name isn't coming up. Mm-hmm. Yeah, no, I love and you know what, I'm a little guilty for this.

brush, you jokingly said he was trying to get that White Lotus cameo. That's exactly where my mind went immediately. But after watching the episode and Christian clocking the fact that, you know what, Ozzie kind of probably, I probably remind Ozzy of Cochran a little bit because Cochran did this same thing to Ozzie. And that's what good because, again, that's what's great about return these seasons, Jeff. I hope you're listening. Like, they know the trauma too.

Not only does the audience know the trauma, but they know the trauma too. So it was great that Christian and Bryce, I learned his word from you. Christian had the weirfall to know. Christian had the weirfall to know that, ooh, maybe I need to dial it back a little bit with my relationship with Ozzie if he's kind of looking at me to be the Cochran of this season. Right. Good on him for there. Yeah. But I do have to say, you know, I, I, I, I, I, I, I.

I mentioned this last week of, like, Christian's move last week was incredibly well executed, but I don't, I didn't really know if it was the right move. And I think this episode was sort of evidence of that to some extent where he could have moved forward with the David versus Goliath trio and they would have maintained a very strong majority. And we saw that Angelina and Mike were exceedingly loyal. It appeared. And even Angelina ended up voting where Christian told her to vote this.

episode. It was interesting that everything got framed through Ozzie's lens when in reality, Emily and Christian could have gone with Angelina also could have been a good move. But, you know, I thought that obviously, you know, Christian didn't want to let Emily go. But in a tribe like this where you kind of can assume you're going to go to another tribal, I thought sticking with your numbers that were guaranteed seemed like a better move because like we sort of discussed last week. Going into this week, Christian has Emily, but it's like he doesn't really have Angelina anymore. He earns Ozzy and Stephanie's still kind of a free agent. She's not like a reliable number three when she's got her Ozzy connection. And so I thought this episode was

sort of evidence of that Christian move put him in a bit of a dangerous position. And I mean, that's how we love Christian's gameplay because he will take those big swings. But I guess what Well, I don't know. It was, you know, Ozzy was the old. Also, we know Ozzy. Christian knows Ozzy. You know he's going to get mad when he gets up. Christian don't know Ozzy from a bar that Ozzy used to work at, though.

It's true. That's true. But, okay. A bar that Ozzy used to work at. Like, Christian would seem pretty surprised. Obviously, this is a new version of Oscar. But Christian seemed pretty surprised that Ozzie, like, didn't get over it. It's like, you remember what he had an all-time freak out on a nerdy guy.

for flipping. Like, you know, so obviously those circumstances were a little bit different, but I guess but it's, you know, it's odd that Ozzie was the only one everybody lied to you last week and now suddenly he's in control of the vote. Like I don't, but Davey, to that point, like, what did you think about Christian's decision last week? And flip on. And be honest, Dave.

You probably have a better. I was waiting for the right time to ask about all this stuff. But you probably have a better perspective on this. situation than maybe anybody in the world being connected with that trio and I feel like you've got perspective on both sides of things because we've seen this season Mike said that

he hasn't talked to Christian since Angelina had some words for Christian in the pregame like the preseason where do you stand on I guess Christian's move from your perspective and not to even I think I'm a fan of all three so I don't want to you don't want to any smack

or anything but what do you think kind of the nucleus of the issues now with everything is? No, seriously. I mean, of course I know I was going to have to talk about this a couple of times. I actually had a lot of fans ask me, you know, in the Twitter streets, what did I think about Christian's move? What's good or bad? At Medcan, we know that life's greatest moments are built on a foundation of good health,

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Hey! Davey was good, brother. It's good to see you, man. Good to see you, man. When Deasy, you're late. Davy's about to get into some real-ish right now, so I don't want him to forget his thought. Let's go.

Let's go. Bring light. You go ahead and Davey, go ahead. And let me know if you need to cope harder or anything. Like, you know, just. Yeah, I got you. I got you. But no, what I was saying is I had a lot of fans, you know,

asking for my opinion, obviously so. This is the David versus Goliath crew out there. We got my David, who is one, and we got two Goliaths there. Of course, there may be a little bit of bias in some of my answers here, but they were asking me that I think it was a good move or a bad move.

I don't think is that cut and dry. I think that it was a necessary move to take. And let me give a disclaimer, because I don't want it to seem like I'm just ragging on the Goliaths here because these people are my family now. And you know what? I can ask, I don't know if this is the same for you guys who have been on seasons with people. But I mean, I'd be friends with everyone, but I still view them as family.

So like, when Mike does well in his career life, I'm happy for him. When other certain members of my cast do embarrassing things, I'm embarrassed for them. So it's like that's the family aspect of it all. I say all this to say, yeah, I think Christian made the right move because he knows who Mike White is. These players, you know, not even these players in season 50, but even on our season in season 37, I had no idea who Mike White was before I went out there. I know Carl didn't know, but I know a couple people did. And I didn't realize how much they knew who he was until after the game. But now looking back on it, I can see why sometimes they would sway his way.

It's because he has influence. He could change a person's life like that. And I think that Christian, that's not the only reason that Christian, you know, took that shot. But I think that in this tribe swap, he knew that this was going to be his only shot to take that chance. Because let's say he does make it to the merge with those three. Who do you think these people? I mean, sure, Christian's persuasive. He's lovable.

But if you put it between these two and they're on one side of the fence and the other people on one side of the fence, they're going with Mike White. They're going to want to be on his side for any potential of what they can do with their careers outside of this game. To be a buddy with Mike White, to get a spot on the White Lotus. I think Christian thought about all of that and was able to have the window you missed this, but I learned this word from Bryce

to have the weirfall to know that that he had to take this move now. Now, I do think that you know, Stephanie should have been a little bit more of an option to weigh. But I do

stick beside my brother on this move and I'm glad he got him out. Can I ask you a question, Davey, because we saw last week we saw how much of a player Mike White is, right? Like, I don't want to, outside of his influence, right? I don't want to take anything away from him. Like, Mike White was locked in.

Mike White knew enough to say to Christian, you don't want the same situation with Emily and with you and Gabby to happen again. And shout out to Davey because Bryce and Winn aren't the only people that throw parties. If you're in Atlanta, Davey always pop out with a watch party. And last week, Davey, you had an epic. Thank you, man. Epic. I'm watching a story.

Davy's still posting to this day. And I love it. Because first of all, I always be just seeing what Davies' outfits is. I'd be getting into Davey. But Davey, Gabby, who I called Gabrielle Union and Christian were there.

What was that like to see that on the screen and you be in Atlanta with both of them? Dude, I was bawling my eyes out. can't believe no fan caught that reaction. They were all pointing at me, crying, and I guess they were just scared to record me, because I wanted to watch that back. But man, just to have those strings pool and to know those two individuals and know how close they are now and to look back and see a little bit of that betrayal, but to see Mike White use, try to attempt, attempt to use that against Christian made me realize maybe they weren't as close. Maybe Mike and Christian

aren't as close as Mike thought they were because I would never try to use my trauma or use Christian's trauma to force him into a move. I don't think that's something that friends should do. I think there's got to be another way if you're out there in an alliance that you can not make your friend do what you want to do, but maybe persuade. them a little better to do what they want to do. And I want to stop this because I got to give both of you guys your tens when it comes to throwing these watch parties. When it was my first season, I did one watch party.

And I was like, okay, that's enough. A wave cap ad, Davey. Where to wave cap at? Exactly. I look, I did one watch party. I was like, okay, that's enough for me. When no texts is me and he's like, no, dude, you need to be doing these every week. And I'm so happy that he told me that because now I have.

a lot of expertise on doing these things now. I got some new skills. I got some new skin in the game where I can, you know, not even just make money off this thing, but grow the fan base here in Atlanta to where I know that we're really out here and we can compete with the best of them. And I say all that to say is, you know, I stole that venue from y'all.

Like, I wouldn't even know him to go to Hudson Grill if it wasn't for you guys. So just shout out for you for putting your boy on game, man. But yeah, back to the next. Baby, man. we're so proud of you, bro. Like, we love what you've built in Atlanta. And, like, that's why, that's why, well, we rock with you because you're a real, genuine person. But also, like, we see you build in this community.

And y'all got some good ones down there. Y'all got some really good alums down there and really good fans. So keep rocking, bro, and we're here for you. We always got you, Davey. But two things, because Wendell got to go. But I also, if you were to ever watch this, we know that. I told you all Wendy Z is driving back

from Montreal. Does it look like he's driving? So Quintavius, get into that. But also, Wendell, when we started the podcast, your boy, Davy said he had taken a hiatus. And so 50 was his

return. Do you have any take to that before you Davey? And it's only because we love you so much, but me and Bryce talk so much about your hiatus with each other. Hiatus. I got a picture

from Davy from 49, 48, 47. Look, look, Savannah Davy don't know what hiatus means. By about Wicke. Davy talk about I wish somebody would have got my reaction with Christian and Gabby. Yeah, like you got Savannah's reaction

from 49. when you were taking a hiatus? Survivor's social media reached out to me for that reaction too. I was like, but no, man, you know, Savannah. Savannah is in Atlanta. And Savannah was a fan before and she would reach out to me

and so I was like, I can't not come to a few of her things. But I didn't watch the same. You asked me somebody's names. I won't know these names. I know Juan. I know Rizzo. I know Savannah. That's it.

Well, maybe since you were on a hiatus and I want one deal here. Here, would you like to know who was an alternate for 48? Yeah. Jack Atkins. What? That's the world of street, Davey. He ain't even tell us, Davey.

What? Jack. Still in the mix. It's not true, Davey. It's not. What's going on here, man? Mind you, Davy doesn't know who Sage is, but when Sage was giving her tell-all,

why was Sage mentioning Jack as one of the people that she has- Wait, I didn't even know. I didn't know that part. Yep. You weren't a tell all. Okay. But Jack loves to ask the prize. Look how deep the lie is.

He's still on this pod hiding it from us. Cassper. You're supposed to be friendly. You're an alter. Every alter it knows you've got to keep it a secret. One-on-one. The last thing went easy that you didn't hear from us. Sorry, Charles.

Yeah, man. But, Dave, it's a, it's like a running, well, I don't know how it's it though. Is it, Jack, though? I guess it's like an actual rumor, but it also a running joke, but I have no comment. Okay. Just talk off of mine. Yeah, we can talk offline. Wait, I didn't know Sage talked about it or someone else talked about it.

I think what Sage or maybe was Sophie B. Sophie B maybe was like, I saw Jack at. Ponderosa. Well, she DM me before the season, I think, said, and I was like, she was like, it was so, it was like crazy seeing you out there. I was like, crazy because I wasn't out there. Then she called me and was like,

I saw him out there and I believed her. But back to the episode. We'll never know. Davey, this season of Survivor 50, the Posse, which is the Purple Pants podcast, the Survivor News people, in previous seasons. they get on Window and Jack,

because Jack's an alternate, where sometimes they're like, we're too soft, like where someone makes a move and like we're like, but, but, but,

but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but,

but, but I've been trying to do my best at being very honest and candid. And I want to be candid in this moment. I want to talk about Jonathan for a second. However, I might feel about Jonathan. You know,

I tried to be his ladder the first time he played and he blocked to me. So I don't want to, I don't want to glaze Jonathan too much. Yeah. Yeah. I am very impressed from the Jonathan that we saw his first time to this time. Like it like Jonathan seems to lock in and him going and locking in Rick Devons, him like weighing out his options, him seeing the different people, him being like, okay, I know Seria scary. I don't know enough about

there is God. And again, if that's his knowledge and him being like, okay, if those two are the people that I'm going, like, I don't know enough about, let me go with another man that's safe. Let me lock in Rick Devin's like, I can't hate on I'm not mad at how, how, Jonathan is playing what we have seen thus far in this game.

Like with D, with Charlie, with, Rick Devin's, like, again, the old Jonathan that I feel like I have seen on the screen, I feel like he would have been locked in with one person

and been getting all of the information from that said person. So, um, I don't maybe love the Avengers that he's getting together. But I have to say like, I see Jonathan out here working. What do y'all think? I mean, well, I do see that there's a definite contrast

to how he played his first season and how he plays how he's playing now. And maybe he learned some stuff from Marianne in the process. But he did end up being on the wrong side of the vote at the end of the episode. So I don't know if that is going to work well for him or not. I don't know if he's, I mean, I think he thinks that he's aligning with the right people,

but I don't know. You know, I feel like the edit is kind of, kind of foreshadowed this thing about him, maybe going after Surrey or maybe getting on her bad side. So I think that he 100% is playing a different game, and we're going to see how that pans out. Yeah, I agree with you, though, Bryce. And I hear what you're saying, Dave,

as well. But I, you know, I think he did a good job. He kept it simple. He was trying to stick with his numbers. He was like checking in with the ladies to be like, are we good with this for? Like, are you guys feeling cool?

He wasn't too dominant about it. I didn't feel like. And he was like, okay. Like, I've checked with my people were cool. Rick doesn't really seem to be our target. Let me go build a relationship with Rick. Like I thought that was solid.

And I also think, you know, he did get left out of the votes. But I also think for a Jonathan type, this is actually a tribe that it's not necessarily going to float his boat all the time, right? Like, and I still think the fact his name didn't come up, you know, it could later, or I guess we're like doing some sort of merge next. So maybe it will.

You know, typically, and not to say this is a good or a bad thing about Jonathan, but you put, you look at like a Camilla, a D, a Surrey, a Rizzo, even a Charlie. Like, those might not be the types that Jonathan typically works with. And so I still think, or like not even that he doesn't typically work with those. types, but maybe you wouldn't expect them to work. Yeah, gotcha. And so I thought he did a good job of, you know, adjusting to that situation. And he was left out of the vote, but there was a lot of things going on that I think

were a little more behind the scenes and, you know, don't necessarily like see Rizzo roping Jonathan in or D roping in John. You know, so I thought he handled it all decently well, you know, given. And then once he gets back with his crew. you know, then he'll be in a pretty good spot. You know, I think he actually has the, is showing the chops where if he's with a Colby and a Joe. Okay, okay.

And he is going to be less of a follower and maybe a little bit more active in steering that group. And so I think for the game that Jonathan needs to play, you know, not necessarily saying it's the type of game that's going to win, but I think it's going to give him a better chance than the last time. I also think a huge shout out to D this episode, right? Yeah. It seems like D is with D going with Jonathan.

And we see the Riz, we start to see the breakdown or we start to see the bad blood of Charlie and the Riz God. And again, I love Charlie. And I feel like we, I feel, and I don't want to say I'm a victim of the edit, but I know what the edit gives, right? And so, like, I understand that we are only getting this one-dimensional edit of Charlie. And so, like, I just want to just preference that. Don't, I don't need the posse being like, oh, you take your size, but I'm just saying

that. Yeah. But I don't want to glaze, Rizzo, but, baby, baby, Riz God clocked it. Okay? What's the king to?

a god the riz the riz the the the riz said to charlie what you think I'm stupid okay what remi ma say

is you dumb you think Jonathan is going around here speculating yeah yeah what is you talking about

right like the way the Riz got clocked in And then the wrist guy said, you said, the wrist guy said, I'm a, I'm a girl's guy, Jack. Baby, do you know this question? Tell me what you think about me. I buy my own diamonds and I buy my own ring. Only ring your celly when you call me lonely. Ladies, if you feel me in and then.

The shoes on my feet. I got it. The clothes I'm wearing. I got it. The house I live in. I got it. I depend on me. Because if I wanted to watch, where I'm wearing, I got it.

All my ladies who intend to throw your hands up at me. All my ladies who got the money, throw your hands are at me. Jack. They're like that. You know I didn't know you, Ms. all they know you can yell like that. Frizzle how you're going to get down like that, Jack song artist? I feel like I'm Tiffany at the Zach Brown reward. Can I give a hint?

But Jack should know this because... I mean, I know what I think is giving, but I'm probably wrong. You say this artist, this is, if it's not Mary J. Blodge... I didn't think it was Alia. That's the one I say the most. It was a Charlie's Angel soundtrack, I think. Okay. Yeah, it was a Charlie's Angels soundtrack.

Is it, oh, it's, what's it called? Is it Destiny's Child? Hey! Wait, did my clue give it to you? Yeah, yeah. But Jack be cheating, though, but okay. See, well, because Beyonce was in Destiny's Child, right? Yeah.

It was giving, like, Beyonce, all the single ladies, like, independent. What's the name of the song, no, Jack? Like, don't sell, you took a look. Girls girl. Oh, oh. That doesn't have a good sound title. Well, you get, you, you, you, you prefaced it by saying he's a guy's girl.

So I was like, maybe it's like a. Independent women. Independent women. Yeah, I love those. Yeah. Happy international women's mom. That's. But the risk got clocked in.

And the, like, like, seeing the Riz with D and seeing like for me watching Survivor I play Survivor but I've never I never had the opportunity for somebody to like tell me information that I could like give a D response but like

the thing that I like respected the most about D was Riz God came to her told her some information and I felt like immediately Dee was like oh I fuck with him more than where I'm at because D's like absolutely Charlie say your name, he a little suss, like how can we maneuver from here?

And like, I like the fact we haven't seen a lot of D yet, but I like the fact that because we haven't seen D, it doesn't mean that like she's a winner. She won season 45. We know she's clocked in. We know that we see her align with Jonathan and them, but we could only speculate what she really down. And so this moment kind of like gave us the moment where it's like,

okay, D's clocked in. And not only she clocked in, it's like she's locked in with Charlie. So I love that. I also, another huge shout out to Camilla. Oh, yeah. Like, okay. Oh, yes, yes. Riz, listen, Riz, you got a lot of Ws, but don't do too much.

Right. Don't do too much. Right. Because Riz was my bro. I was showing him how to tie a wave cat. We was going down. Frenchaw, my cousin Pookie, know his cousin, Corrine. Camilla was like, huh?

That don't sound right. But what I appreciated about Camilla, Camilla was like, all right, this young lad is lying, but I know my position is enough to like, I'll believe this lie and go with him. So it's like I appreciated Camilla's discernment, in that. And so I'm loving the risk God and his angels. At Desjardin, our business is helping yours. We are here to support your business through every stage of growth, from your first pitch to your first acquisition. Whether it's improving

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Great gameplay, also hilarious with everything he was doing. I mean, not yet, like you said, Bryce, the moment of him being like, Kyle's last words to me were like, God, and he just, I mean, he was like, Kyle's last words was,

His confessions were great. I mean, and it all started with the moment Charlie pulled up on him like while he was asleep. Like it's like you're asleep in the boat. Like, who'd you tell about our friend Billy? I was like, oh? Stink to the plan. Billy Garcia. I love it this game.

Oh. But no, Bryce, I'm with you. Low key. I think this was actually more of D's move or at least better played by D. Rizzo, now Rizzo being on the outside was under a little more pressure than D. D. D was in with the majority.

Rizzo was the one who was able to really get things moving. And I applaud him for that. And it was really, it was great. I mean, to win over Surrey like that was incredible. To get Surrey to give you info and like lock in with Surrey, amazing. But let's make no mistakes. This move doesn't this move doesn't move forward without I think the D stamp of approval. D I'm sure was having conversations. I mean it ultimately

probably boiled down to D and Camilla being like, do we do this or do we not? And so for me, great job I riso to rally the troops. But I always look at the people who who's got the deciding vote here. And that's that's D and Camilla. And I think it was the right move for that too is the thing. So that's why I think it was a great, as much as I hate to lose Charlie. I think it was a great move for them to open the game up a little bit. Yeah, I don't, yeah. Can I ask you a question, Jack, because you are in Vegas,

and I don't really know a lot about betting, but when they were at, either was tribal council or something, when Rizzo was like, yeah, I am playing with house money. Yeah. I didn't get the analogy. Like, I was trying to understand. an analogy where it's like, I'm assuming house money is where you're like, I can just play with it. Yeah, playing with house money is like, it's not your own money.

So you're not worried about like losing it necessarily. It's like a free, it's like a free ride. You're like, if someone came and handed you a hundred bucks, it was like, go put this on roulette. You're not going to feel as bad if you lose the 100 because you didn't have the 100. You just got it. Oh, I'm going to put it in my pocket. But, but essentially playing with house money, it's like he, you know, what do he mean that?

Like, relate that to Survivor for me. Yeah, yeah. So Rizzo, obviously this was, came hot off Survivor 49. Probably two months before this tribal council, Rizzo didn't even know if he'd be on 49. So he gets on 49, does great. And they're like, hey, you want to pull back up for 50? And he's like, sure.

And so he just had a great run on 49. So now he's like, two months ago, I didn't even know I was going to be on 49. Now I'm here. Like, we like, F it. ball. Like, I mean, whereas all the, you know, like

Jenna Lewis has been waiting for this moment. No, that's not, that's not, this isn't shape. Jenna Lewis just saying her because she was on season one. Yeah. Her and her and other, other, a lot of the other players have been waiting.

That wasn't a house money. That was their money. This was, yeah, they were waiting for this moment for maybe even decades. And so to them, there's a big buildup. There's a lot of pressure. There's a lot of stress. Whereas I think Rizzo, It's like, yeah, I'll come. Like, he's just still, he's still rolling, right in on that 49 high, just letting it fly.

Kind of a devil-may-care attitude. And so to me, obviously, he still wants to win and cement his legacy. But it's kind of like with Savannah, too. She was sort of playing with house money. She just won 49. It's an opportunity to go again, see what she can do. But she loses. She's probably like, well, I've just won 49.

We're still doing all right. You know what I mean? Like, not too worried about it. And I think editing-wise, it was. was this Charlie versus Rizzo, they gave Rizzo so much credit for this takedown. But that's why I still say, I think there's a lot more that D and Camilla,

I'm sure, Surrey as well, were doing to make this move happen. And I also thought that Rizzo, the move was great. And this is what I love about Rizzo, but a lot of the things he was saying, I was like,

bro, you got to slow it down a little bit. Yeah, you're putting a little bit hot. All guess, right? No, I got, I'm glad you brought up D and Camilla because I do have to give everybody their tens from D to Camilla to Ceree and Rizzo in this whole little,

you know, they were calling the new Black Widow Brigade. I don't know if we need to go that far just yet. But great on Ceree taking some, not advice, but some moves from the new era. And, you know, people always get, people always get all up in any about, don't tell them about your item. Don't tell him about your idol. I believe you shouldn't tell people about your idols,

but good on her to still tell Rizzo about something that was able to, you know, allow him to know, yeah, I'm locked in with you. She used that later down the line. I had said a couple weeks ago, I wonder why Dee is coming for Surrey. Well, she wasn't coming for Sarie this episode. I think that Dee's a season player that she can already be on the voice. voting block scale. You know, usually in these seasons, we don't get to the voting blocks until the merge, but we're already doing the voting blocks to where I know I need to be working with this

person for this vote, but I don't know if they're going to be working with that person for the next vote. Maybe she's still my gun for Surrey, but she knows she needs to be on Surrey side disc around for this move to happen. I also got to give that same credit to Camilla because she could have damn for sure been offended that Rizzo would try to pull the wool from her and be like, oh, you really just going to try to lie to my face? Oh, I'm going to take care of you, Team Charlie. But she knew that she would much rather work with this side of that tribe than that side of that tribe for this voting block.

So I'm really happy about, you know, her whirlfall to know. We're going to get a dollar every time I say that word today because thank you, and then. Then Rizzo, first impression of him, by the way. I'm like, okay, who is this kid, man? I like this kid. A fan actually DM'd me a video today, maybe hours before this podcast,

of me giving Rizzo a shout out during an ORG at one of the Bryce and Winnie events in Santa Monica. And it was like, she was like, can you just say what's up to Rizzo? I was like, what's his name? What's his name? I was like, yeah, man. Riz God, we're going to see you on Survivor one day.

You know, I didn't know who I was talking to, but I got to give him his tens, man, because he knew he was going to be on Survivor someday. And, dude, you out there serving, man. So props to you. But I got to give them their props because they did that. Jack, permission to call Davey out

because, you know, every time Davey lie, I got calling him out on this podcast, he talks about him, know who Rizzo is. Davey, you want me to pull up the photo? You on Rizzo? Pull it up. Okay, I'm gonna pull it up. Okay.

Is it actually one? Oh, no, I'm like. Oh, okay. Oh, yeah, I was going to stay. Oh, man. That's the other thing. The other reason I really like this move for D is she's now the last winner. She should be working with the Ceres, who's a target.

The Rizzo, I like how she framed Rizzo as like, you're a threat. Like, nobody knows you. Like, that's, and that's a. an angle you could take to make him a shield in a way. I think it's really smart for her to find those shields and to break that. It makes sense for her

to work with three here. I think the thing that makes me look at D like oh, she's a winner, is outside of not voting with who she was with, who does she piss off?

Not a one. Like, you know what I mean? It's like, again, And we're watching as viewers, but to us viewers, it feels like she's picked aside, right? But when you think about it, it's like, but who does she piss off? Like, so to be able to pick a side and not really ruffle a feather, I think says a lot, right? And so it was like, again, super sad to see Charlie go home. But why I keep saying I love 50 so much is that I love Charlie. and I didn't want to see him go home.

And I think that that is what keeps me so much involved with 50. And then when we switch over to the other tribe, we know that Angelina went home. And this was very, very, very, very, very interesting because I feel like the edit has revealed to us, the old Oscar still lives. And, you know, I got flashbacks of Surrey and Eric Reichenbach, where Ceres like,

give your immunity necklace to the young lady and will feel comfortable. And like when Ozzy first said to Christian, give me that, I'm about to say fire token. Give me your shot in the dark.

Now, Jack Davy, help me, since Ozzy has Christians shot in the dark, if Ozzy were to go to tribal next week and Ozzy was like, I feel uncomfortable. Can he play his shot in the dark and Christians or he can only play one? But if he survives, then next week he can play another one.

Do we know? I don't know for sure, but I don't think that would be in the rule set for him to be able to just go around collecting shots in the dark because that could change the game drastically. And Jeff did say in the preview, I don't know exactly what he said because he says something like this all the time. This is going to change the game forever. So maybe that's it. I don't know. At first I was thinking you could maybe like I think it would be a cool mechanic if you could stack them like especially this is such a big merge. Maybe you're in an alliance

of six but you're in the minority somehow like it's it's like six to nine or six to I guess 11 I guess they're going to be at 17. You could you could all six give your shot of the dark to one person and just have them play at six times. But the problem is I think you would have to, you know, it requires sacrificing a vote. Yeah. So I don't know. I don't know how that might get me.

I mean, I don't know if you could play it for someone else and sacrifice your own vote. Or, you know, maybe if Ozzy still had his extra vote, maybe he could give away his vote and his extra vote to play two shots in the dark. But I assume Ozzie will give it back. I mean, it would be kind of crazy.

He doesn't, he's not usually the type where he would, I feel like he would like... I don't know. There's no part of me that feels like from this episode, yeah, we saw the old Ozzy and black and white. He came to his senses.

But as we are gearing up for tribal, Ozzy clearly lets us know he is not forgetting that he can't trust Christians. So like, I don't foresee Ozzie giving it back to Christian. But it was... I don't. Why, like, why would you? If he doesn't give it back, Christian's going to be, you'd be like, F, like, is it not something where I could say to you, Jack, say you gave me your shot in the darkness go round and it's meet you and Davey.

And now it's the next round and Windows's here. And I'm like, Jack, vote with me and Davey to get Window out. And after this, I'll give you your shot in the dark back. I'd kind of be like forget If I had any agency I'd be like forget you like you're not going to like hold me hostage to vote with you with my shot in the dark

Like if Ozzy doesn't give it back He fully is going to burn a bridge And that's not worth it for a shot in the dark Which he might not even be able to play But it But it's not Ozzie might do it. Right I'm just I

It would be a terrible move Yeah if I was like you know You have to vote me or I'm not giving you your Sean the dart back. But then if you vote with you and give it back and you get it back, like, I feel like, Ozzy the next time won't be like vote with me.

I'll give it back. Like, you're not, nobody in this game, if I'm playing the game, nobody is holding me hostage to take my vote. Now, if I'm in a situation, why would you give it up then?

Why would you give it up then? I mean, I would be, I really wouldn't want to. Honestly, if in that situation, if I was Christian, I probably would have trusted Angelina and,

and voted with Angelina and voted. to Ozzy out. But, you know, I think that the reason you're northern. But I think, I think that the reason Christian wasn't too worried about it is because we forgot that Rick Devons and Christian planted a fake idol deer.

So, sure, you can have my shot in the dark. I've got another shot in the light that I can play if I need to, you know? Yeah. And Ozzy, I feel like is the type where he would do that more genuinely at a trust than out of, I'm going to blindside you.

Plus, in a small tribe, Christian knows he has to vote. he's not going to play a shot in the dark. I think it's fine. Crystal wasn't happy about it, but I think it's fine to be like, okay, like I burned you,

here's a sign of trust. But then if I come back and I'm like, hey, can I get my shot in the dark back? And they're like, only if you vote with me again, I'd be like, screw you.

I'm going to come for you now. Now, if I was in a tribe where like, I was at the bottom and I had to, I'd play along like, oh, okay. And then the moment

if we merge or whatever, screw you, I'm coming for you. Like, yeah, because he's about the link back up with his own can do that to me and like I think that that's okay. But I also feel like I hear that argument, but like I feel like that's how I receive

Christian take us back to the beginning of the episode on black and white when Christian's like, we didn't tell you about the Mike White vote because we didn't want you to have to vote against Mike White. Like you know what I mean? Like that same logic as to what you're saying is like kind of how. how I feel like how I received what Christian was saying, where it's like you're saying that, but it's really just a smack in my face.

Well, but Christian was right because Ozzy is in conventional said he wouldn't have voted for Mike White and he would have blown up again. So like, I think Ozzy did some reflection and was like, kind of true. Even though he didn't like the move.

But Bryce, if I, if you gave me your shot in the dark as a sign of trust and you came and you're like, hey, Jack, I get that back. And I'm like, and I look at you done. you know, I was like, only if you vote for who I tell you to vote. Would you, would you feel like I was, like, respecting you? No, but it's Survivor, so I don't need you to respect me.

And, like, I think you do. The moment people don't respect you in the game of Survivor, like, you're never going to win. But do you not, like, I, I, I'm with y'all, right? Because I'll be like, oh, but I also feel like the player that I'm becoming because of a Jack and a Davy and a Wendell being my friends. I feel like why would you not try to get someone to go with a vote with you? It's just dirty. Like it's just like,

I'm not trying to play. I don't want a clean million. Give me a dirty million. But I think in Survivor, there's lines of like. Is there? I do because I think at the moment you play dirty and make someone feel like personally disrespected,

then they will lose any respect for you. And they're never going to vote for you. They're going to target. Like, Bryce, say. say Bryce. I was like, hey, Bryce, I need lunch today. Can I hold 15 bucks? And you're like, sure, sure.

And then after the next day, I get my paycheck. I get my lunch. I get my paycheck. You're like, hey, Jack, could I get my 15 back? And I'm like, no, actually send me another 15. Or else I'm not going to send you your 15. Well, Jack, you don't know my cousins. Because you don't know my cousins?

Would you trust your cousins in a game of Survivor then? would you want to work with but sometimes yeah maybe not but if I need them for this vote I hear what you're saying

but in this situation they'd be the ones needing you for like if you need them for the vote then you wouldn't be the one if you're orchestrating the vote then you wouldn't be the one like giving like giving away all your power

I hear what you're saying it's like if you're in a tribe in the situations say Ozzy's running the tribe and he like does this to me and I have to just like swallow my pride and be like, okay Ozzy you know

you do that once if you have to this isn't that situation Christian's fine but like if he does that you swallow your pride while you need to but you better believe when it gets time to I have the power now I am not forgetting about the disrespect

that you because that's just like Again, Survivor's a dirty game, but that is just like, not forgetting Christian Lydden. Yeah, but that's part of the game. A lot like you're lying, you're making the move that's best for you. But that's just like, what you're saying is just like straight up like blackmail basically. It's, it's extortion.

Like, it's just grinding. Yeah. And look, it's within the rules, but if you try to extort me, I'm not going to be like, this is a great friend and ally of mine. I'm not saying, I just want you vote, my guy. But also, like, like at the final 18 or 17, like that's not the fall you want to get rolling with people, right? Like, okay, you keep a shot in the dark.

Who even knows if he can really use it? And then you burn him for like the rest of the game. Not that. I mean, again, Ozzy might do it. I just don't think it would be smart. No, let me update my second chances. Hey, look now, Jack. No extorting people.

Oh, man. Your thoughts, Davey, on the Angelina vote and them ultimately sending our girl Angelina home. Well, I want to take it back to the very beginning of the episode. I don't understand why we didn't hear Angelina's opinion on the fallout. Like the fact that she just lost her closest ally in the game. You can see her in the background while I, Ozzy is just fuming at them.

Like, she's like, she's out of it. And, okay, of course I have listened to her eggs impressed already. That's my sister. And she was like, clock the lie, y'all. Just clock the lie. She was like, I told Christian, America's going to hate you. Why didn't we see any of that furiness with her

and Christian going back and forth? This has been a season of us looking at the duels, go back and forth. I would have loved to see that. Okay, but then fast forward back to the vote. It's tricky, man. I feel like you have Stephanie there that you could use her as a fallout for the vote if I'm Christian, but also you have this bad blood between Angelina and Christian that resulted from our first season. So they both know each other well. And I think that they both know that might was the only thing that was the glue between them.

If I'm Emily, though, what they showed us, Emily and Angelina kind of seemed to have a little bit of freaking frack. Emily and Christian are definitely together. Emily and Ozzy are definitely together. If I'm Emily, I'm thinking maybe I might pitch Stephanie to all of them and go with that. But, you know, I'm sure Christian was persuasive.

in saying we can't trust her i think ozzie uh was even gunning for her before and you know his only well he was gunning for her when her closest ally was in the game um i i think she kind of might i may i just go on record saying she might have just been swapped screwed i don't i would have loved to see her in a tribe with chrissey um you know some more powerful women where she could really get inroads in with them and make some moves together. But I think she just really didn't got the short end of the stick here. And, um, yeah, RIP to my crew. What, do we know what, what was Ozzy's reason?

Was it because Q wanted her out and he, yeah, he wanted to be Mike's number one. And he knew that he could never be Mike's number one with Angelina in the game. So he wanted to cut him in the knees short, get her out of there so that he could be the head honcho within that duo. Yeah. I maintain, and you pointed this a couple of times, Davy, I think last week it would have made sense. And there's obviously stuff going on behind the scenes that we haven't seen.

I thought Stephanie last week would have made a lot of sense. You know, as Christian being the one driving the vote, you keep your David versus Goliaths intact. You keep Ozzie and Emily intact from your original. tribe. It would have given him all the options. And clearly Stephanie's worked her way in with this crew more than maybe we've seen from like her perspective. But I don't know. That seemed like a solid option to me. And again this week, right, it seemed like it could have been an option. But it was crazy to see. It's interesting to see the way that Stephanie moves, right,

where I will say that like Stephanie knows how to maneuver. rewrite a sentence because she seems to like now she's not she's noty number one even though she knew the information so it's like I'll say that about Stephanie she can finish her sentences any way she wants to

so can I want to I want to I want to point to at a moment early in the episode that we did not talk about real quick before we wrap up that I just thought was so funny was coach bestowing his nickname on Joe and on Cole.

I thought the funniest thing was he was like, it's not going to be like warrior or wizard or any of that series stuff and that hundreds and dragons stuff. And he's like, you are the stonebound warrior. Literally, same, man. And he ended with the classic, I've been getting really into Japanese culture lately. That's like the classic old white guy moved to,

He probably has a couple of katanas on his wall. As I look at the katanas on my wall. Okay, yeah, because I know that room and that couch. I know what's behind that other scene, Davey. We're in Davy's middle room, and that's where Davy stores, all of his costumes. I also was cracking up with Coach, you know, with Joe, just saying, like, the Oakdown Warrior, like,

it seemed like a brotherhood. What I also thought was interesting was Aubrey, right? Like we see Aubrey clocking in this episode, a huge fan of Aubrey. We haven't seen a lot of her. We kind of just always see her on the bottom. And I always feel like the three seasons that I have seen of Aubrey, it's like I feel like Tyra Banks like, I was rooting for you. We're all rooting for you. But we see Aubrey like, coach is running this tribe.

Let me get in with coach. She goes to coach and coach is like in his confessional. we're building a genuine relationship. We can start over. It starts now. And so I'm watching it in Montreal like, oh, he about to get an Aubrey name, right? Like, it seems like he's saying the same things

that he said to Joe and Kobe, but like coach is like, she's doing a lot of this. I'm going to put my arm around her. But again, love or hate coach. You can tell his heart wasn't in it as much with Aubrey, though. But I also do, but like, again, maybe I, maybe I'm a coach believer. I do believe when coach was like, we're starting over, right?

Like, we're going to play the game together now. I believe that, like, Aubrey will now be considered in coach's corner. Because I think we haven't seen this type of conversation with him and Genevieve. Right? Like, it's just been like, Genevievey's been included. So, like, I don't know. I hate the fact that I watched the episode to watch it, but I also watched the episode for the edit.

And it, like, kind of Fs you up a lot of the times because it's like sometimes they are giving you nuggets. And other times they're, like, sending you on a Pokemon hunt. I say what you did there. But he was, yeah, no, I mean, he was, it was a good job building an in-road with Aubrey, but I just felt like in the conversation, you know,

you go from him, you know, professing his love to Joe and Colby. And then it was in the conversation, obviously, I think we should start working together. And coach was like, we should start working again.

And he was like, let's start talking a little bit more gaming. Coach was like, would love to do that. Yeah, yeah, it wasn't, you know, I don't think his heart was as in it. But he was making,

he was working on building that outside relationship. you know, much like John he did with Rick Nevin. Right. He was open. And we are open to see what happens. Whether there will be a merge. I feel like there's too many people for...

Yeah, I don't know what. Are they hyping us up for emergatory? Who knows? But Davy and I will be watching get together next week. Let's go. So you will see

a lot of your survivors at Ron Clark and Ron Clark. And Ron Clark is sold out. So if you can't get to that, Bryce and winter throwing a welcome party in Atlanta, the karaoke party. We will be there. Before we go, though,

shout out to Davy's TikTok. I join it all the time. I join his lives. Shout out to his live. I feel like I don't see enough people in his lives. So when you are listening to this on YouTube, Spotify, Apple, make sure you follow Davey, Davy.

What is your TikTok? So we can show some love. Yes, sir. You can follow me on all. platforms except for Instagram at Wears Davy, a term that Bryce has coined so much, so you can't forget it. It's Weir's Davy on TikTok, Snapchat, I'm a, uh, uh, uh, uh, X. I'm still calling it Twitter, uh, and threads.

And then, of course, on Instagram, I am Davey. So yeah, I appreciate love, man. Thanks for joining us, David. All right. Jack, are you going to go back to the, are you done gambling for your week or? not not even close I mean I still still have to do some

a little bit more work today but this afternoon we'll be doing some gambling we're gonna get a nice little dinner and you know watching college basketball and playing cards so it'll be a good time I'm doing so it's cool okay wait Jack

do we still have our arrangement can I can I cash up you $15 and see what you can make shake uh we can discuss off we can discuss we can discuss the turn You said $15? I made 37 cents

off a dollar with Jack. If you want the 15 back, you're going to have to vote with me. See what you did there. It doesn't feel so good now. I don't play extortion. But I'll give it to you, Jack. Well, all right, this is being your survivor news. We appreciate you.

We will see you next week. Don't extort your friends unless you got the care. It's the purple. This the Purple Pants. It's the Purple Pants podcast. You better get your headphones and listen up quick. It's the Purple Pants podcast. You let listening in public might make your stomach hurt.

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