RHAP: We Know Survivor - Purple Pants Podcast: Survivor 50 Ep 7 Recap | Rules for thee, but not for me. ft Jesse Lopez

Episode Date: April 10, 2026

Purple Pants Podcast: Survivor 50 Ep 7 Recap | Rules for thee, but not for me. ft Jesse Lopez The baby boys Brice and Jack are back this week with special guest Jesse Lopez, breaking down Survivor 50 Episode 7. Tensions hit a boiling point as alliances begin to crack, information spreads fast, and emotions run high across camp. From messy gameplay and advantage drama to a chaotic Tribal Council where strategy starts to unravel, this episode proves it’s truly “rules for thee, but not for me.” Brice, Jack, and Jesse dive into the shifting power dynamics, questionable moves, and how one explosive vote could change the trajectory of the game moving forward. Tickets and updates for Brice and Wen 50 events:https://briceandwenpresent.flite.city/ You can also watch along on Brice Izyah’s YouTube channel to watch us break it all down https://youtube.com/channel/UCFlglGPPamVHaNAb0tL_s7g LISTEN: Subscribe to the Purple Pants podcast feed  WATCH: Watch and subscribe to the podcast on YouTube SUPPORT: Become a RHAP Patron for bonus content, access to Facebook and Discord groups plus more great perks! Previously on the Purple Pants Podcast Feed: Purple Pants Podcast Archives

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Hello, hello, and welcome to the Purple Pants podcast, Survivor News, covering Survivor season 50. Episode 7 recap. I serve as your humble and oh so gracious host, Bryce Isaiah. And I thank you so much for tuning into this week's Survivor News. If you could be so kind to ensure you are subscribed to the Purple Pants Podcasts podcast. We are available on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you can find podcasts. The Purple Pants Podcasts awaits for you to subscribe. And as always, with your Survivor News, you can watch this audio podcast on video. Head over to the Bryce Isaiah YouTube channel,

click subscribe, give this video a thumbs up, and let us know in the comments what you think about this week's recap. We are back covering episode seven and babe-bay, it's a lot to get into this week. I'm with the baby boy Jack Atkins

and we have The Legend from Survivor Season 43. My man, my man, Mr. Jesse Lopez with us, helping us break down all of episode seven. We are talking about the different fractions that are happening. We are talking about the Dragon Slayer returning.

We're talking about Jonathan and Dee. We're talking about who is in the best position. Was this the best decision to send? Who went home, home? This and so many more of the cloth and other nuances. So let's get in to this week's Survivor News. Survivor News. Survivor News.

Survivor News. Survivor News. Survivor News. Survivor News. Da, dot, dot. Oh! And we are back this week with the Survivor News. You know, your favorite survivors,

favorite survivor podcast. We are here covering episode, Super excited to be here. We have the man, the myth, the legend, our favorite baby boy, the Jack Atkins. You might know him from The Circle, Season 2. The floor is Bond or maybe Chet Bond himself. Jack Atkins, welcome back to the podcast. What's popping with you?

I'm speechless, Bryce. You just turned your camera on and you got a shirt with my face all over it. I'm fired up. Let's go. I love Zimmy. baby's boys. I'm on it. Where did you get that from?

Well, shout out to Survivor. Immunity shirts on the Instagrams. They make these custom shirts. I kept seeing these custom shirts online. And I'm like, I don't see nobody wearing a Jack Atkins shirt. Like, how can I get one? And, you know, I love my baby boy. And I'm proud of him.

So I had to just wrap, which is why I was hoping to see Jack in, San Fran this week because I custom made an outfit for him But you know he was in Vegas last week and the fans was telling me that Maybe the poker wins weren't as high as he thought they were But enough about Jack because we're doing this podcast because this is one of Jack's favorite persons If you listen to Survivor News, Jack quotes this person, Jack lists this person's accolades and this person happens to be my ex-husband once removed. Let's be clear.

The legend himself. Mr. Jesse Lopez from Survivor Season 43. Welcome back to the podcast. Jesse, how are you? Thank you. I'm very good. I'm going to feel a lot better if Jack stands up right now and he has a shirt with my face on it.

Is that what I'm up? I'm highly disappointed. I wish. I've got the whole collection in the closet, though. Jesse, you know what this body looks like naked. So that's the gift. That's the gift. Take it off.

Take it off. Your face has been on his chest and we're not talking shirts. He has my face tattooed. Jesse, shh. Listen. So we are excited to be here because, again, Jesse, you know I love you. My body knows I love you.

Jack loves you. Jack, Jack, anything you want to say to Jesse? You're starting this pot off super freaky, so I'm like, we got to ease Jesse into the swing of things. Jesse don't ease into nothing. You know, I haven't. Jesse is going to lose service real quick,

vice. Beck about to pop up like, huh? She's right there. She's looking through the glass door. I think you got the AirPods. No, Jesse, we're really stoked to have you. You know, Bryce already gassed you up heavy on my behalf. But I've said it before, I'll say it again,

one of my favorites from the new era, one of my favorites, period. You've been my guy for a while, and I've had the pleasure to hang it with you multiple times. And I've said, you know, I was, I was maybe the second most mad that we didn't get you on 50 behind you, rightfully so. But I know we're going to get you again soon. And you're, you know, you got a great mind for the survivors. So I'm just really excited to break it down with you and Bryce. Thank you. Thank you.

I'm excited as well. I was, like you said, I was more mad than you. But, you know, time heals all wounds. And I'm glad that I'm watching the season. It's been a fun season so far. Yeah, I think there's some things to get into about this episode. I think it's a lot to get into, but I do just want to dive a little beyond the surface. If people don't know, Jesse was supposed to be on the season.

He was Rob. And I'm just curious to know, because again, we're friends, Jesse, and I know that you had some apprehensions about watching the season how you would feel. but we are seven episodes in. What's the honest Lopez take of seven episodes? Yeah, yeah. So I gotta be honest, like I didn't know that I was going to watch season 50. I was very much in my feelings after being cut.

And yeah, it was an open question whether I was going to even watch the season at all. but it's very hard to be down and upset and feeling angry or whatever when everybody is like in such a celebratory mood, right? Like you can't be the only one that's like, ah, I hate this so much. When literally like the lead up to 50 was probably the most like excitement that I felt since being like a survivor fan like as an adult, right? It was just so much hype around the season, so much excitement.

They were going all out. My kids were asking about when the season started. And so it's like, what am I supposed to do? Like, turn off the TV and be like, guys, we're not watching this season. But I'm glad that I did watch the season. I'm glad that I tuned in. I actually got invited to, you know, participate in some of the promotion for 50. I've got flown to New York to participate in hands on a hard idol and compete for a trip to

Fiji and then I got to be with the 50 cast while they watched the premiere episode. So that was very cool and I think it was like a neat way to sort of get back into Survivor after those tough feelings. And I'm glad I did because like I said

like it does feel like a celebration the first, definitely the first three episodes felt like this sort of celebration of the history of Survivor. You're getting all these flashbacks. You're getting all these moments between like these icons that I grew up watching. like coach and Ozzy you're seeing

so replay again and then you're going to see them mix it up with people like D and people like Rizzo and so it's just like this very very cool thing there's been I will say like last episode was a little the blood moon a little out on that

but yeah it's been it's been a fun it's been a fun watch been fun seeing like all of these people that I watched growing up get to play with people that I've met and like people that I would say are you know friends. Yeah, it was fun following along with you when you were in New York with the

cast. If anything to me, I was like, all right, they still got to get Jesse 50 contingent and, you know, maybe a 53. They're still soft launch and the Jesse return. So, yeah, that looked like funny. And you did the hands on a hard

idol with Tommy smokes, right? From Barstool. Yeah, I lost at Tommy smokes. I touched my knee. Which, I'm going to be honest. I watched all the hands on a hard idol challenges leading up to that. And I didn't see, I didn't see any rule about touching your knee. So I should have wanted.

Yeah. Well, you should know from me that there ain't no rule with touching your knees or the toes, Jesse. But although we didn't get to see you on Survivor 50, I know your kids are a huge fan of Mr. Beats. You happen to be on beast games, right? Very briefly. Well, listen, one thing I can relate to is briefly being on the screen, so it's not that bad. But I will say, like, Jack, I share the sentiment of when season 50 was approaching, the one thing I knew, I was like, Jesse, Jesse, Jesse.

And so I can only imagine what you felt like, but I just hope that you know, like, as your friend, the fans, you're the only name that I keep hearing. That's like, where is Jesse? And so seeing the rollout of 50 when people were in New York and knowing that Survivor knew enough to say, hey, let's make sure Jesse Lopez right is around. I think is a sign enough to say that the return of Becca's current husband, my ex-husband, I think is around the corner.

And so it really does warm my heart to hear that, like, you're watching and you're enjoying. So it's glad to have you back. And I think it's all just a set up for a nice second chances, too, where you guys can both spend a little time on the island together. And, you know, if there's hands on a hard idol, Bryce is going to be the first one there. So, um. Well, what is understood doesn't need to be explained, Jesse. And so we're super happy to have you here.

when Deasy couldn't be with us. I had to get on the first thing smoking. When Deasy was like, I'll figure it out. We were in San Francisco last night. And shout out to San Francisco. San Francisco was so much fun because we are on the road to 50. Ozzy was in Las Vegas with Jalinsky, with Karishma, with Jenna.

And so it was a time to be had. And we are gearing dance. You know, it's only a couple more episodes left. And so you want to ensure that you join the fun of Bryson Win 50. Next week, we will be in

Boston. Boston, we got a lot of things going on following Boston. We're going to be in St. Louis. Also next week, Ozzy is going to be in Miami. Then Ozzy will be in San Francisco. So don't miss out on all of the fun. You can to watch

Survivor with the community, click the link in this YouTube video or the Instagram of Bryce and Win present. Also, we're heading to Washington, D.C., Chicago, we're gearing up for you as well. And all things lead to the finale. Bryce and Wynn will be in New York. We've got Gabe in Baltimore. So if you are around the area, make sure you join in on the fun. But listen, and also, Jack, you need to pick a city because I'm not playing with you.

You ever been to Los Angeles? What's that? I've been to Connecticut. Okay, shout out to Christine. Don't let me get started on North Carolina, though. Well, well, listen, Jesse, we're coming. When? Well, listen, we was trying to wait for the,

53 premiere. We'll be there. No, no, I felt, and just to give context, I was really back and forth on going up to San Francisco for that Wednesday just had some things pop up and was busy and the drive the flights were expensive and the drive was a little bit daunting

I'm not going to lie to you so In this economy? I know I was like okay gas and it would be at least 100 away but I don't see about doing a little road trip I've been wanting I've never been up that part of California so we're definitely due for something Bryce you know whether it's in California or wherever

trying to make it but the big be boys busy. You know, traders ain't going to cast. Listen, we get it. Although you weren't there, it was so funny just to see the posse and the bill to talk about did Jack spend all his money in

Vegas? And so hearing that, that was hilarious because, you know, Jack don't gamble, Jesse, but he plays blackjack. Is Jesse... No, not blackjack. He played poker. Poker. Yeah.

Not to don't want anything, Jesse, but is poker gambling? Would you say? you're a smart man. I mean, you can gamble with poker, right? Like, you can, I've never played poker, but I've seen people and they put money up. Okay. And that would be

considered gambling. Bryce, we have this debate every single podcast. I mean, I don't even want to get into it. Yeah, because it's gambling. It's fine. It's gambling, but just because you like playing poker doesn't mean you have an affinity for gambling. All right. Well, just...

Do you like to play poker without gamble? Like, without like... I like poker. I play with money and like it is gambling, but I wouldn't consider myself as a person who would be a gambler. Okay. And then Jesse, he doesn't consider himself a gambler

because he considers himself an elite poker player. I never said elite, but it's not gambling if you know you're going to win. And I got the stats to back it up. I'll make me pull out my poker app. And he keeps a notebook.

All of, okay, we're not going to get to this. Well, that's how you know that you're not losing. Okay, I think it was said once on the episode, and I think it applies now. Rules to thee and not to me. Okay, and I think that that's how Jack lives is like. Or not. No, no. We see this every episode.

I don't know. It's more of, you can. You don't got to play, Jack. You don't gamble. Poker is gambling, but I don't like to gamble on other things. because I don't like slots. I don't have a lot of slots. I feel like poker.

I'm good enough. I have an edge. I win in the long term. I don't play like blackjack because I know I'm going to lose money. It's like gambling. Okay. You also don't hit the slots. No.

No, I don't like games of chance. You don't, you don't fuck with shot in the dark. No shot in the dark. Well, wouldn't gamble that. You know.

Dee. D gamble. Ah! You know, it's a, it's a valid. Yeah, is D a gambler?

She played a shot in the dark. but, you know, if it's a calculated risk, is it, it's less scam. It's like poker. But there we go. Like, like, because Jack, you know I will go down this role with you. We know. And there's no one here to stop us. But people are going to go every episode.

Does Wendell usually stop it? What, Wendell don't talk. Is that what's a mistake? Although Wendell isn't here, he's still here. But my thing is, Jack, have you ever lost? Yeah. Okay. That's a, that's a...

It doesn't mean you made a bad decision. Well, I mean, is that what Cody? We all love Survivor. And in my first ever book, The Tribe and I have spoken, I'll tell you how this little show evolved from that juggernaut first season on the beaches of Borneo all the way into its landmark 50th season.

I'm like a storyteller. That's what I do. What role did the greatest players, the unforgettable moments, and Jeff Probst himself have in shaping what Survivor. has become today. And what contribution did we play in building this worldwide tribe of Survivor fans? Love you, Bay. For you future players, I've also included my ultimate Survivor

playbook to help you win the million dollars, unlike me. It's fine. You know what, dude, it's fun. This hardcover edition is filled with beautiful Survivor illustrations in every chapter and is an amazing edition for every survivor collector. I'm a meat collector. Pre-orders are everything for a book launch, so to say thank you to everyone who pre-orders, you'll receive an exclusive digital bonus chapter called The Ultimate Rights of Passage, my personal tribute to all the players who have ever competed on the show, all 751. This is huge. I needed this.

Pre-order wherever books are sold in hardcover and as an audiobook at rob has-a-book.com. That's rob-haz-a-book.com. Nicely done, Rob. Kind of like Dee. I think Dee, just tie it into the episode we were supposed to be talking about. Just trying to weave it into the episode. Like, what I like about...

15 minutes in. Jesse, you... I think Jesse might be the one of the comments that's like, when's the actual episode start? Because we can... You guys are going to have to put the little marker on the video. It is Jesse, Jack. It is Jesse.

He might be the one leaving the timestamps that's like episode at 8. minutes, guys. If you actually want to hear about Survivor. Oh, I started off with overarching, because there's a lot, there's lots to unpack here. I thought that episode was good.

I watched it twice. Because last night I was a little bit, you know, I was at a friend's birthday and I watched it a little bit late. So I watched it in a day. But I thought it was good. I thought there was a lot of fun character moments. And it was Dee's demise.

But she made a lot of mistakes, I think. but what I like about D is she was very like upfront about me like, I made some mistakes. You know what I mean? Like I think a lot of people are the hero their own story and they'll try to put the blame on everyone else or not acknowledge that like maybe they did something wrong. But D was like, I messed some things up.

And it's how it shook out. So I kind of appreciated that about her. I agree. She reminded me of you, Jack, a little bit like your poker playing. I feel like up into this episode, D was not a gambler. She just played poker. But in this episode,

she was a gambler and, you know, people kept pulling her card and it wasn't coming out on top. But the one thing that I like, I loved and respected the most about D that we don't often see in the new era is that she didn't go down, she didn't just lay down, right?

Like, she went down fighting. She, you know, she calls the scene. She let her allies know. She made a huge little, ruffle with her and Jonathan, even though Jonathan says, I did this on purpose to make D react this way.

And I am not a gambling man, but I'm not sure if I, he did that on purpose. But I like the fact that to the very end, right, there's no mistake that D1 season 45 for a reason. And I feel like although she did not win season 50, we could see why she was a winner.

Yeah. I don't think, So I don't even know that D made mistakes other than maybe like the blowing up at Jonathan part. I don't know that D made mistakes this episode. I think it was just the mistakes that she made like prior to this episode. And I think it in it I don't know that like they're like, you can view them as mistakes now hindsight 20. Right. But like her mistake I would say is like she had too many people feeling like they were like working with her.

right because Jonathan clearly felt like he was working with her up until the Charlie boat right Camilla and Tiff definitely working with her coach felt like he was working with her until he felt like he got his name floated out right Rizzo felt like he was working with her until he found out that she was telling people about the idol so like D was doing I think what he did right in like 45 in the sense of like she had she was building relationships right um but it all just kind of came crashing down at once. I like how you put that though, right, Jesse? Because if we don't start the episode off with Camilla going home, with all of the people

going home, maybe none of these alleged mistakes that she made, they potentially don't even come out, right? Because it's just like Emily going to Rizzo telling Rizzo, Jonathan and coach, like a lot of the things that she did, she was building bridges. And sometimes it's like, information is knowledge in the game. And in order to build relationships, you have to give a little information. We see Ozzy come back from exile island with Rizzo. And Rizzo goes straight to Sarians like Ozzie told me about this and that. And I told them, Saria already told me. So that locked us in. So it's like, you can't win without risk. And that's what I always say about survival.

And so I'm not mad at D. You said you can't win without risk. I know another game. That's not what I'm. No, no, I totally agree. I think you kind of a gamble. It's a gamble, Jack. I think you guys encapsulated it.

Like, I think that D was put in some precarious situations in the premurge where, like, that decision of Charlie versus Rizzo was not a needy decision. I don't even necessarily think she made the wrong decision. She also, you know, telling Emily about. Rizzo's idol. Yeah, Emily has some loose lips, but also Emily and Dee were on the same season. They're cool.

Like, these are all understandable decisions and it kind of just gets to a point. It came to a head here at the merge where these little slight missteps, I guess you could call them, kind of got out. And then, yeah, it all kind of came back to it. And also, you know, D out of her control,

we see a lot at these merges, like 14, 13 people. They're usually all, the easy vote. And at this phase of the game, D being the last winner, that's an automatic target that D can't really control either. So I totally understand why it went the direction that it did. And it was funny.

And I got to say like Jonathan, you know, outside of some certain things, he doing a pretty good job. And I agree with you in the sense of like he totally could have gone to that confession, but like I totally, totally planning that argument out. You know what I mean? but kind of like when Stephanie doesn't finish her sentences, right? But sorry, I'm being messy. But I think A, Jonathan, coming from a very reasonable position of D did lie to me and

it broke my trust. And Jonathan has a lot of social capital within the cloth and lets his people know. And that goes where it goes. And D, it sort of harks back to like why I thought Devin's was a little sloppy in the premiere of Joe kind of catches him in a lie and here Jonathan catches D in a lie. And they're like, well, I'm always lying. It's like, well, that's, you know, that's not the best. Not a good look.

It was not a good look. Having to, like, publicly have that argument and be like, we're all lying here. Yeah, I lied to you. But both for me and not for me. Like, I don't, what don't you all understand? Well, you know, coaches there. Like, I've never lied in my life. Like, so you're...

Oh, God. He looked so sad in that hammock. It was kind of funny. Listen. What is that? Listen. And I love coach, right? Love, hate, whatever you feel about coach,

this man is a TV legend. And it's like, from episode one, with him and Ozzie, and with the pole getting the thing. And, like, it's just, it's so interesting to see... Benjamin coach Wade this episode where he's laid in a hammock. And mind you, he got, he has on a poker face, right? He just, he just.

And Jonathan's like, well, Miss D. You didn't lie to anybody? And coach is just like, he was on the verge of tears. It's just like, coach being like, war has been declared. You lying to me. I'm going to come at you. And again, I just feel like it's nothing to make of it. I just have so many thoughts, right?

Because it's like, coach, honor and integrity, right? Where it's like that's what his pillar is. But yet time and time again, we see it's not honor and integrity. But then this episode to see him make. He's like over here saying like you can't lie. Like we're not going to lie on this season. in, but then he's like wanting to lie to people about the split vote. Like, it's just

yeah, there's honestly entertainment. Right. No, it's, yeah, he's unreal. Like, yeah, it's literally, he just does, but it's such, I said this like, I think last week, he's such good TV because in his mind it somehow all makes sense,

but you're watching, it's like, and then even you go hard back to like, you know, South Pacific, for example, when he did have to cut people, he would like justify it. He's like, this is like, divine intervention. I guess I got to vote you out, but I'm being honorable.

But it's like, well, you know, you're just playing the game. You're not being honorable at all. And also, yeah, I mean,

from the haiku, oh my God. Which a lot of them, a lot of them were wrong. We're not haiku. We're not haiku. And then also, yeah,

with the split vote, being like, we can't tell the middle people we're splitting the vote. What do you think, like, what do you think, like,

Christian and Devin's like you're going to do like a, you're going to lie and then severing, separately, like it makes no, this is like rudimentary survivor that coach is like not rapping and also telling Devin's like, like, we can't tell the middle as like Christian. It's like your, Devons is. So then, and then him getting like the coached up by Rizzo.

I mean, it was just coach was just giving moments on moments this episode, but it's like, how does this man's mind? He has he ever been like, I don't think he's ever been like really that great of a player. He's like a great TV character and he's like fun to watch. like interesting to listen to is not haikus. But in terms of like being like this was so

like he a very bad like gameplay. Like I don't see how someone who behaves the way that he did gets to the end and gets votes. Like right? Like it's.

But my question to you Jesse is as somebody in my opinion who you are one of the best of the best players to whoever play Survivor. And I don't, I don't want to keep Rizzing you. You know, you're the birthday, Rizzy. You're the birthday, Jesse.

But like, for me, how someone like coach plays, right? We all talk about it. We love it. But they all make it far in the game. And I always internalize that as like, there's something to that, right? Where it's like you be this out of, the ordinary player, you break all the rules.

And I almost like kind of relate him to Emily, where it's like, as a viewer, we love Emily flipping. She stayed flipping. And it's like, we're in seven episodes. And it's like, people say, don't tell nobody. And what does Emily do? She tells everybody, right? And we're seven episodes in.

And no one is even looking at Emily to be like, wait a minute, like, we got to get her out. And so for me, there is something. to a very organized game, Jack, like how you play, but there is something to be said about a chaotic game and what that does because it does seem, and I'm not saying it's a winning game, but there is something to be said to change the course,

to go deep into the game. And like, I think we're watching it. And again, I think we're watching it from an older era perspective of a coach and also from like an Emily where it's like, I love my girl Emily, but she also is just like, I'm a do and say whatever, and it hasn't come back on her yet.

Yeah. I mean, I think with like coach, it's like, yeah, it is he's pissing people off. I don't think it's a winning game, but also why vote him out then? Like,

if he's doing all this stuff to make people mad, why do I want him on the jury and not next to me? And so, like, I think that's the issue that, like, why I really never saw him going tonight or last night is, you know, are you going to vote out D, who is clearly like able to like build relationships even though she's burning them? Or are you going to vote out coach who is pissing everybody off right now in this moment?

Yeah. And he has obviously his group of people that he like vocally rides for. And so at a final 14, it's also hard to be like, okay, if we burn coach or his people like or burn someone coach is attached to we either are burning all of his allies or if coach is still around we're also just like we're going to face the fury of coach for not being honorable so it yeah it makes it tough to like make a move on him early but like

you said Bryce I think you make a good point of like these people like coach and Emily there's sort of on like chaotic variables in the game that maybe that the average player doesn't understand like what do I do with this? And so you don't really want to go address something if you like don't understand it, maybe. Can I address something?

Yeah. That confused me. And again, I'm with world class players that have yet to play and have yet to play again. The thing that kind of fucked me up a little bit was why is everybody looking at

Aubrey like, you said you were going to play your idol and you didn't this is Survivor 50 like we are and again I know they haven't seen the Risgod season but like the Risgod is the king like I was so confused as to why everybody was like oh Aubrey

you said you're going to play an iron on you didn't uh yeah and I almost was mad at all Brie, girl, do with another episode. Like, like, like, did y'all understand that? Am I missing something? I think it has to do with how she said it, like, right?

Like, it could be one thing to say, like, come back to camp and be like, you know, like, oh, Genevieve played her shot in the dark, so I felt like I was good and didn't need. But the way she was like, just totally slipped my mind, right? Like, that lands differently to me than like, oh, you did it for it.

You might like the way she said it. If I was sitting there being told that, I was like, oh, you must think I'm stupid. If you were there, Jesse and tribal with me, then you got the tea. Like what? Like I don't because I again, okay, let me shut up. No, no. I'm glad you brought this up because I was thinking about it. I think Devin's articulated it pretty well of being like what Jesse said.

You know, for one, I'm like, I thought Devin's a Christian. Rick can't call. Rick cannot talk. I thought Rick and Christian were, like, friends with Aubrey. So I was like, okay, obviously she's not actually going to play it. But then, yeah, I think Rick and Jesse both just explained it well of like, okay, if you're like, hey, Genevieve played a shot in the dark. I was very confident she, like knew she was going, didn't feel like I needed to play it.

That's one thing. But to be like, oh my God, I forgot. It's like, Aubrey, this is season 50 with you're playing with legends. You can't just be hitting them with like, oh, oops. I made a mistake. like you're Aubrey. Like, we know you're not just, like they've watched you on TV before.

They know you're not. I think, I think Devin's also, like to think about Devin's and Christian, I think that they also probably have the sort of lingering feeling of like, damn it, like we should have just, like, if she wasn't going to play it,

like, I think Devin's even said this. If she wasn't going to play it, we should have just voted out Aubrey, like, and taken the idol, right? Because it would boomerang back to Christian. So, like,

I think there's probably some frustration there of like, all right, you're going to get this thing out of here, or we're going to just blindside you kind of deal. But also, that's the thing. I thought they were all cool. Maybe this was like editing. I thought they were all cool. So I'm like, even if you knew she was going to play it with,

I wouldn't have been the right move, I don't think. But, yeah. Again, Jesse, I ain't make the merge. I went out real early. And so the way I'm looking at it is, okay, if she doesn't play it, yeah, sure. But now you have that. information. Information is knowledge

in this game. So like, let's use that. We could use that. We could tell everyone she's going to play it. She does it. We could put the votes on someone else. Or she does play. Like, I just, for me, I kind of felt like, oh, cousin,

I feel like Christian is maybe more aligned with Aubrey. And I feel like cousin Ricky he playing his own game beyond a Christian. and Aubrey. Because I just didn't understand that.

I just felt like she has it. Now you can use this information to your advantage. But I just was so confused. And then like, go ahead. Sorry. Yeah, I have two thoughts on it. One is I don't, I feel like nobody's that upset about it.

But maybe they're now leveraging like the, hey, you said you were going to use it. You should just get rid of it. because everyone else just wants her to get rid of it. And maybe they're, like, putting a little pressure on her and be like, you should just play it. And she's like, okay, I don't want to piss people off. The other thing, it's like, you know,

we saw it as recently as last season with Rizzo. I actually think, and we also saw with like Xander in 41, where you constantly, like, bluff the idol, which I think is generally good gameplay, I feel like juries actually start to, like, lose respect for your game because, like, they feel like you almost become untrue. touchable, which is like their fault

because they're not figuring out how to blindside you with your idol. But I almost feel like if Aubrey keeps bluffing it, people are going to be like, oh, well, we can't vote for Aubrey, like, she's not really like, if that's how it seems like you're playing the game is just bluffing your idol instead of like playing Survivor. And again, I totally disagree. I feel like if you bluff the idol

well, you deserve it. But I feel like last season we saw the jury start to lose a little bit of respect for like Arizzo, for example, because he was just doing all these just making a show of bluffing his idol and that just became like his thing. And again, I still think if you bluff your idol well and can survive

through that, that's a great tactic. But I think juries just start to naturally kind of lose a little bit of respect for the game that you're playing. Yeah, I do wonder why there's so much pressure on Aubrey to get rid of the idol and not Rizzo, right? Well, they didn't

they didn't block him to play it. You know what I mean? But I agree. I agree. Everyone knows it. So like, why isn't there this pressure on Aubrey? And again, if I'm Aubrey, in my mind, I'm like, bitch, you don't want me to play it. So y'all can vote me out. And so I'm not going to do that. And so if I do Rizzo my way to the end, that's what I will say.

I will tell y'all, I played it because y'all are playing on my face. But again, for me, it just seems like all the pressure that y'all are putting on Aubrey, it just, I'm not an experienced survivor. player or anything, but like, I would, one would lead that if you want me to get rid of my idol, then it means you want to leave me vulnerable. And we know that since the tribes have merged, the only thing that has been constant is everybody talking. Everyone knows everything of everything. So like, where is the pressure on an Ozzie? Where is the pressure on a Rizzo?

Like, there is none. And so, like, this makes me, yeah, go ahead. Well, I was just going to say, I think it's because they didn't. seemed like Aubrey was pretty blatantly like, I'm going to play this. I'm just going to get rid of it. And I like, play it to that in people's minds. I fully agree with you,

Bryce. I think all this pressure is like very unjustified. It's her idol. She can do what she wants with it. Like she doesn't owe it to anybody to play. But I think for Aubrey, the final 14, you're now either deciding like,

can I, should I just get, should I keep it and try to play this idol bluff game and maybe piss some people off? Or do I just get rid of it and try to wipe the slate clean and like hit the reset button on something that's bringing me a little bit of heat. And I think being as early as it is at 14, it's good to just be like, you know what? Like, I think this is kind of whack that everyone's saying this to me, but I'm just going to,

I'm just going to get rid of it and like wipe the slate clean and hope that that's the right decision because trying to dance around with this idol while maybe irritating some people, which I don't think people, I don't think people should be irritated, but it seems like they might. I think doing that with so many votes left is like kind of a dangerous game and you can dig yourself into a hole with that. Yeah. This makes me feel like Aubrey still hasn't really found a core group or like an alliance, right? Like even if she was feeling good with Rick and Christian and them,

I think maybe the reason that like Ozzy and Rizzo aren't getting any pressure to play their idol is because they have like solid relationships, right? Like Rizzo seems to be having a relationship with coach now. He has the relationship with Sari. And so like nobody's going to put pressure on people that are, have friends, right? They're going to single out. the person that like is kind of on the outs with everybody and like not bully but just like you know flush the idol you don't have anybody to back you up so flush the idol um so it makes you

feel like she's on the outs if that's your reasoning though and i get it that's how i feel right but like wouldn't it make you not want to capitulate to them and wouldn't it make you want to hold on to your idol more and like that yeah i don't know much though no totally agree like i think your overall analysis is on spot on. I just think given, I don't know, yeah, in her shoes, it's a tough situation. Great use of capitulate. I knew Jesse was going to be on here,

so I had to take you down. I don't know. I think that, though, like, getting rid of the idol, flushing the idol, there's clearly like a little bit of a fight brewing between, you know, coaches group and whoever, right?

I think we didn't see as much as they were talking about, like, oh, there's a line in the sand getting drawn. We don't know who's on what side, or at least they are trying to, everybody out there is trying to make it feel unclear. That's why I think there was a pile on vote because nobody wanted to pick sides.

And so, like, if you anticipate, oh, there's going to be some groups going at each other pretty soon, then maybe the best move is, like, hey, let me just take the heat off myself and let them just, like, fight each other. And that is my take, though. I think, although I don't agree with Aubrey giving away her idol, like, I will hold on to it. I think Aubrey is in a unique position because I think it's clear as day.

Like, again, like, I listened to Dee's exit interviews today when I was on the flight. I think people out there know who is in the claw, right? Like, I think it is very apparent. And then I also think we have the. new school. We have like the the Camillas, the D's, the Tiffany's, the, although they're, right, the Tiffany's, the Rizzo. And like, I think Aubrey

might find herself why she probably released it because it's like, you know what, I could be the swing vote. We see Aubrey dancing around with coach. We know Aubrey and Sarie have a good relationship. So I think that like it really might put her in a good position. Yes. I think, I think we know. where the sides lie. And I also think that like,

Surrey clearly is not cut from the different cloth because we see Surrey in with Ozzy. Ozzy, Rizzo, and Surrey. You know, Ozzy is just like, somebody tell me what to do. And I'll be the buff, buff guy. And we have Surrey really kind of doing the Surrey thing because I would feel like in a game like this,

I think Sarie would lean a little bit more to the older school. But I don't think Saris cut from that cloth because I think Saris are... But I love the relationship between Surrey and Rizzo. I like, that's my judge where it's like, Rizzo locked in. Rizzo, he locked in. Ceree's like, we see Stephanie wins, the immunity. Not challenged, but the journey. The advantage.

Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I don't think Stephanie has watched Survivor in a couple of seasons because she's like, if you're 30 minutes, then I'll be safe and not like, girl, that's not how the journey's work, Ms. Mama's, it's yes and no, okay? And Seri, like, I just came from Australia, bitch. I know you like. And I appreciate Stephanie trying to make it enroll with Surrey, like, huh, you got me, girl.

Maybe we are cut from a similar cloth. This is it, but this is what it is. And I love Surrey immediately. Like, she don't tell Ozzie. She tells Rizzo. And when I watched that immediately, I was like, Ah, Surrey's downfall. Like, I feel like Rizzo's going to be the one to put the knife and

Cirreys back because he has all the ammunition. But. You think? I think so, because, like, Surrey really is. We've seen Surrey time and time again. We've seen Sarie with Michaela. We've seen Sarie with Michaela. We've seen Surrey with the Black Widow Brigade.

We've seen Surrey with poverty in Australia. Like, Saria's, I don't think, in my opinion, I think Surrey would rock with Rizzo and put the knife in Ozzie, right? Like, I think she really is Eddie. That's just what I'm going to. But if Rizzo does turn, I think it'll be very late. I think Rizzo's living in his career right now working with Sari. Yeah.

And just them too hanging out in the hammock and just topping it up. Yeah. I mean, I do think that Surrey is like super in like a great spot right now, super insulated. She knows where all the advantages are. And like she's so close to Rizzo who has an ear to the other side, right? He's got this in with coach that this invitation to join the four horse man. I'm going to talk about that. So he didn't know if they're going to try and pull anything on.

on Surrey. And so Sarie does have a whole wealth of information right now. So like the only real blind spot could be Rizzo. But again, I agree with Jack. I don't think if it happens, it wouldn't be anytime. But I know

like if you're paired up with Surrey and you're on season 50 and if you end up going deep with Surrey, the thought has to cross shit. Like, you're not beating Siri at the end. You're not beating Surrey at the end. Can I also give you

another hot take that I had Yeah With coach Nighting Rizzo Into the Four horsemen For horsemen I was about to say

I was about to say another word It started with a K But Just one word Coach actually gave me a call Before Rizzo ended He said I 50

We know Jesse Jack love a white man. So listen. But here's the thing, though, I wasn't, although as blatant as it was like, y'all, you're down the guy. So now you need somebody. I almost felt like there was a little honesty in there. And like, I felt like we know Rizzo is saying whatever he needs, but like, I wasn't mad at coach's pitch. Like, I mean, but like, to be like, all right, we lost Colby. How would you like to replace him and be our fourth guy? I'd be like, yeah, I mean, sure, like,

but I know I'm not really your number one person here. Yeah, I do that is I was actually thinking back to earlier in the season when coach and, or not coach, Colby and Q, there was a scene where after Kyle gets Medivac, they're thinking like, oh, we need another person. Right. And they're like sitting there on the beach with RISO, and they're like pitching to him like to like you know bring him in and they clearly did it much better because Rizzo in that scene is like very like oh I've switched the perception of like these like legendary players and he's like excited to be invited in whereas with coach he's like just insulted right and so I think it just gets back to just coach is just terrible in terms of like social game and just navigating survivor and Survivor as a game generally

in relationships to piss Rizzo off I wish I had been in like Rizzo's shoes there just because I feel like I just know how to like hit the right buttons with coach to like make him think you are

like coach me I get to join do I get a nickname coach and he'd be like all this I like this game man and then in confession I'd be like this guy's a idiot

at this point though I'm almost waiting for the Rizzo Aubrey link up right because again we see Rizzo linked up with Surrey right a legend like a bona fide and now we got coach bringing them in and now it's like at some point of time we're going to have to make a decision and so it's like I'm almost waiting to see like where Aubrey fits in with there

because it's like everyone else seems to like we know which side they are somewhat on and then maybe even like a Rick Devons like because we know Rick Devons is going he going cousin Ricky at some point because he's going to want to pull away and make a shot

but it's just I don't know it's just so interesting because there's so many things so many relationships so many like nuances so many old school new school the cloth the regular people. What I would love to ask you all is

how much do you think Jonathan is running the cloth and how much do you think he is allowing coach to coach and he like be the second man in command or do you think like it's Jonathan now that Kobe is gone?

I mean I don't think he's running it but I think he's positioning himself within that group, probably the best of any of the cloth. Like, you know, you see him early on in conversation with coach being like, coach, I think it's, I think we, like coach,

they're lying to us, man, like I think we got to do something. But he kind of like throws it over to coach to be like, you're right, Jonathan, maybe it is, maybe it is time to do it.

And the coach feels like he's like, oh, I made the call. And John, you know, Joe's, Joe is there to, I was pretty good with Stephanie.

I feel like Jonathan's got a good relationship with Chrissy. So I feel like of that group, like Jonathan, I think is doing a good job. But I don't think he is like the shot caller or the face. Like he's still got decenest relationships with some of the other folks. And even him turning and kind of joining that group, he's justified it pretty well.

Kind of just being like, hey, like Dee and also D and Camilla were the ones that flipped. They're gone. But being like, you know, you guys blindsided me. Like, I don't really owe you anything. Like, and I think it's fair.

Yeah, he clearly knows how to talk to people within that group, right? Like, he knows how to, like, reason with Chrissy and, like, Stephanie. And then... You know he knows that. Yeah, and then I think, like, when you are somebody that coach, uh, views as honorable and, you know,

full of integrity and just cut from the same clause, I think that it's easy to sort of steer coach in the direction that you you want him to go. I don't think that like somebody outside of coaches like four horsemen could do that. But like you said, like you see Jonathan sort of do that to coach. So in a way, I think he is sort of calling the shots at this point if it's only through like coach. And that's something if you are a Jonathan, if you are a Stephanie, if you are Rick Devons, if you are a Joe, at this point with us just being merged, and again, I'm just trying to take notes.

You would want someone like a coach to lead, right? Like I think the position would to be behind him, right? Because it's like, then that gives you the option to cut him, to like see how far it goes, but like to be, be in line as the successor because we clearly see I don't know what the last time coach has watched Survivor but like when we are trying to figure out and I know I'm going all over the place but I also want to know

how the hell Tiffany's name got in here but we'll get to that because I'm like well what's the hell did like I'm confused I mean I know what she did just exist but like what does she do to like why why is it Dee or Tiffany like Jonathan and I'm confused because Tiffany, you just blindsided Tiffany. So in the same vein

that you are talking to D, Tiff could look at you like, but. Well, yeah, I mean, you know, D and Tiff were close. If you're going to split the vote, I get it. You know,

split it on a friend. Yeah, split it on a friend. And to your point, they did just betray her, but yeah, but it's like, Tiff can be mad at them,

but they could also be like, well, we did vote against. against her, like, that makes sense to vote against her again, like, compared to someone else. I'm not saying outside of all of the other elements. For me, it's just the, the, the, the rules to thee and not to me. Because, again, the same reason why Jonathan is mad at D is like what Tiff could allege to Jonathan, but like, but now, again, when they're like, but they're not really,

really working together. But when they say, like, the lines I've been drunk. wrong, but also like, you are also drawing the lines. I hear you, but I don't think that they're saying that TIF doesn't have a right to be upset or whatever it is. It just don't matter. To them,

like, as the majority of lines, if you need to find a split vote, it's not like they're being like, oh, Tiff's so mad at us. We got to get her out. They're just sort of like, well, we voted against her last time, like, easy enough to split on her again. Yeah. I mean, they already know where she stands. Like, why that

gap is there, totally different conversation, but now that there is that they're not working together, it's like, you know, and Tiff, also, I'm glad we brought up Tiff, because I wanted to say her bit at the top of the episode, I'm glad I was seeing a lot more of her recently, but loved how she handled, like, handle herself great to their faces, and then

confessionals were ripping and like, fire. Absolute fire. So fire. That's why I was the third boot, because I'd have been cussing them, mother, I would have been, I would have been, Oh, y'all want to talk now? Yeah, like, shout out to Tiff. I do think, so like I want to talk like a little bit more about Jonathan.

I think I am not rooting for this alliance that he's got going on with coach. Not a big fan of coach. Not a big fan of coach and his alliance. but I will say like I do think we kind of like Jonathan I will give him credit he is clearly you know like we said like he is I think he's in control of that alliance

you know maybe it's through coach but he's got relationships with Chrissy and Stephanie and he's coming off more reasonable to them than coaches but I do think that even if that is like it's really going to be important how he's sending

people home you know and how they are feeling as they go home. Because he's in a great position right now. If somebody's going to take a shot at that alliance, it's probably going to be at coach, maybe at coach other people first, I think. But

he's, if you're sending the minority alliance home in a way that does not feel good to them, you're screwed at the end anyway. Yeah. I do think that group, the cloth, I would be surprised if any of them won.

A, I don't think, like, I think the, strategic machinations of like Surrey and Tiffany and Rizzo and Christian and Dan Devons, they'll find their time to dismantle that, I think. And then also exactly to your point, like look, if you're on the jury,

and unless it's all just them and you got no choice, I'm not going to be super excited about like the Jonathan coach, Stephanie Christie alliance that has like sent out um deed in this case like you know you know what I'm saying so um

but that's sort of why i mean i don't know if that will like cement their loyalty to each other more kind of being like we have to go to the end together but i just think it'll become so obvious and there's still so many numbers in the game that like once they get to like 12 or whatever like seri ozzie rizzo devons emily christian and like tiffany are going to be like all right we get we got to like come together and and Aubrey will be yeah there's like plenty of numbers to to and then once they lose their sort of foundation as a group like if if a Stephanie like sneaks her way to the end but it's just kind of like been an afterthought after her

alliance gets dismantled it's like okay I don't think she'll have like a game to speak on here is again I'm like you Jesse like I don't love the claw but watching Jonathan's first season and watching where Jonathan is now, I'm like, okay, all right. You, you, you, as a survivor player, I'm not mad at the position that Jonathan is putting himself in. And I also look at the game differently than when I played, right? Because it's a numbers game.

And at this point, we're at the merge, right? And so the way that I'm kind of looking at it now is like, you allow coach to leave. We know Jonathan is no disrespect to Jesse because Jesse could do his thing because I know. But Jonathan is Jonathan's, Jonathan is a big man. He can do a lot of different things. And so like we see and the reason why I brought up Tiffany, right?

Because I'm like, well, now how do Tiffany get in it? And they're like by association. Oh, that's D's friend. We're going to vote Tiffany. And so I look at the cloth where like I feel like the other fraction will now try to pick off people like a Chrissy, pick off people like a Stephanie. And so if they're on the jury, they're more than likely going to vote for a who, a Jonathan. Jonathan could win individual immunity challenges. Jonathan could like.

And so again, I am looking at the game a lot differently. And now I'm like, okay, this is the jury. I just want to echo what Jesse is saying where like I see the position that Jonathan is putting himself in and I'm not mad at it. Like I see it where it's like if if the other side is picking off these people and you can win immunities, get yourself to the end,

I could see where Jonathan is putting himself in a great position. Yeah. He's playing the best game of that group for sure. Of that group for sure. Yeah, yeah. Yep. Well, I mean. Of his, of the, of the claw?

It also, that's the thing. It's like, A, John. I mean, actually, is it? Who's playing the best game in the entire season, actually? I would say, I would say, Stephanie. Because I, like, hear me out. Why, why, why, why, well, you got to give your pitch. Because I was about to say, maybe Jonathan's playing the best game in the entire cast right now.

Well, I mean, maybe, maybe I'm a Riz, because I felt like Riz is playing a guest game. but I feel like in the close, potentially Stephanie. Close. And hear me out, outside of, outside of, I'm not going to finish my, I'm going to finish my son. But outside of that, we see Stephanie align with Ozzie. Stephanie giving information to Surrey. We see Stephanie is a challenge meets, right? Like, we see when people are saying, coach is doing a lot.

We see, we see Stephanie be like, wow. She's doing solid. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I do. I can say, I mean, if Stephanie is the cloth, so Stephanie's a female, so like that automatically did not qualify for the four, did not qualify for the four horses. Did not qualify for, like, you know, so out, and again, I'm just going by the cloths, uh, thing.

But again, I'm not mad at the positions. Stephanie isn't. She can, no, I agree. And we see, saw even pre-merge, she was like surprisingly in good positions. I think it's sort of, and this maybe it's like reading in the, like, we haven't seen a lot of Stephanie's game from like Stephanie's perspective. And so I think she's in a good spot. She's got good relationships on both sides. But I don't look at it like Stephanie is like actively like doing a lot of things.

Like even the journey, it's like, okay, Sorria immediately sniffs out that she's like BSing. Whereas Jonathan just seems like, I see. see more of the picture. And again, this is just edit, I guess. But I've seen more of the picture, like, how Jonathan's maneuvering and, like, doing a good job with it. So I do think Jonathan's in the best position with that group. But, you know, Stephanie, I think is probably in the second best position.

Like, she's doing better than Joe and coach and Chrissy, I think, for sure. And I do want to talk Joe because I love to know, like, where y'all think Joe's at. But I also do just want to not just because Ozzy is on tour with friends and he's going be in Miami next week and the tickets are available. And if you want to watch with Oscar, the tickets are available, click the link in this YouTube bio right now. But listen,

from the last time that we've seen Ozzy on our screen, and y'all know, I've, don't Jesse close your ears. I've laid in a bed with Ozzy. Like, I'm Team Ozzy. But Ozzy has done a 360 since the last time that we have seen him. And he also is showing

the ability to be aware of where he lacks gameplay and he has locked in with Rizzo, Surrey. He also is like, I'm a challenge beast. I was back then and I am currently present right now. Right? And so like I also feel like we're just not talking enough about Oscar where he is very much. The only thing that worries me about Oscar is that like I feel like,

He's just not dialed in enough in the actual minutia of the game. But in position-wise, I think Ozzy's in a great position. Yeah, agree. Yeah. He isn't a good spot. I do, like, long-term, I don't know that, again, like you said, like, he's trying to change, but he's, like, latching on a seri. So, like, any sort of moves that get made, if I was out there, I'm like, oh, well, that was

Surrey. and not Ozzy. But I do think that out of the people that came back to season 50 and were like, I'm going to try and be different this time like coach, Ozzy is far more successful in sort of changing his gameplay. Yeah, he had to slip up with Christian. But I think that he's sort of, at least as far as I can tell, sort of like covered that up a little bit.

and recovered. And he's in this spot with Rizzo and Surrey. He's got a good trio, which is all you can really ask. Yeah, I agree. Go ahead. No, I just think, yeah, I love that Ozzie, Surrey Rizzo.

Trio is like such a hilarious grouping. And Rizzo really, I think, was kind of the star of this episode. And there wasn't even that much, like, specific moves that he made. But, you know, also coming back from exile with Ozzy, they were all kind of hands free of the blood that went down at the blood moon. And he just gets right back in the mix real quick. No, he was, he was great this episode.

And I also think, you know, I think when he finds out that Dee, like, shared his secret, I get him being like, time to move on from that. Yeah. I think he's playing an adaptable game and just, I think his perception among people right now is, is good, too, just for, like, who he is and how he came into the. the game and I feel like early on he came in a little bit hot and now he's like leveled out and changed people's perceptions of him and like seems friendly and agreeable but he's like got his hands in a lot of

different pots and I don't think they know quite the extent of his capabilities where if he gets a lot of momentum and some agency you can make some things shake and he's just like having fun with it so yeah I actually think the fact that people didn't know much about him

well like obviously a huge advantage but I think the the perception, the fact that all they knew of him was that like teaser from 49 of like, I either is God, right? So they go in with like an expectation of man, this kid sucks, right? But then like I think there's something to be said about like when somebody like sort of violates your expectation, right? Yeah. Like you have this sort of set expectation of this person's going to suck or I'm going to hate this person.

And then they're just even a smidge, like, more tolerable than you thought they would be. And it's like, okay, you know what? That's fine. Like, I can work with you. So I think he benefits from that. Yeah. And I think when maybe there's, people are thinking like, well, other people might not love him because of that initial impression. But it's like, but I kind of really, it's like, I kind of have a connection with him. But if everyone's feeling that way, like everyone does like him, but they all, like you said, Jesse, are like underestimating.

his position with everybody else, and he's just sort of, sort of exceeding everybody's expectations, then that's a great spot, because maybe everyone feels like, oh, he was an anomaly in the cast, but like I've kind of brought him into my circle. He could be an asset for me,

but if he's an asset for everybody, you know, that's a great spot for the Riz guy. I also just, I agree with everything y'all saying, because I love the Riz God, but I also just want to say this, because I feel like it is important. I think a crucial outside of everything that Riz is

doing. I think the crucial piece of why it is so successful is because Savannah is on. And I do feel like, say the roles were reversed and Rizzo was gone, I think Savannah would be, would have been able to find herself in a sweet spot like Rizzo. Different scenario. But I'm just saying, I think it's much better suited for this than Savannah. Well, right, because Rizzo's a man and like, you know, Savannah, was, you know, with the clock, like, yeah, but I'm just saying, I think she would not have been invited into the four horsemen. And she knew she was a winner, which I think is also seems more dangerous.

And she just doesn't have this like, uh, sort of innocent perception that I think Rizzo does, like kind of non-threatening. Well, you agree that her being gone kind of absolutely sort of boosts. Because he just becomes a free agent to everybody. Right. And every good survivor is going to be like, let me try to get this free agent all my side. So now all of a sudden everyone wants to work with it. I agree. And I would love to know, because, you know, we winding down the episode, even though I don't want it to end. I would love to know

I felt like in this episode, the first episode wasn't a Christian Hubecki episode, right? Like, I felt like, what's the kind of the first episode? We didn't really see much of the man that we have loved. And so it makes me a little nervous. So I would love to know where you two, think Christian lies in all of this because now that we are actually at merge, right? We're merged. Thank you, CBS. We're merged. Now that we're merged, I think curious to know where you think he is at.

And also would love to know, like, where you think Joe is at? Because, like, we didn't really see much of Joe either. Yeah. I actually think this was probably best for Christian. I think the fact that he has gone to, if I'm not mistaken, try. every single time. And I feel like it could be editing, but like it just feels genuinely

like he has been in the driver's seat for every tribal that he went to. It was just like I was completely worried for him going into the merge because it's like all we know is that Christian drives votes. And so as much as I like was kind of disappointed that everybody just dog piled onto Tiffany and D.

And I thought that was kind of like just a boring outcome. I think that it was probably best for Christian's game to not try and rock the boat. Because if you're coming out of pre-merge, having led every tribal you've been to, and then you're coming into the merge and you're leading the votes here again or trying to shake things up, it could easily backfire. And I think this was best for him to just sort of fade into the background. Yeah. Some of these down episodes for Christian, I think, are essential.

Like if he's the face of every episode, it's a hard, like, fire to keep ablaze. You know what I mean? So he needs to take these times to, like, lay low and let things get set up and then make his decisions. And he could have easily, like, when he got told, like, didn't Devin's tell him, like, hey, they're saying not to tell you about the split because you're the middle guy or whatever. He did say something to coach, though. He did. But he could have easily taken that and been like, you know what?

Like, I got to, like, move. I got to shake something up here. And he didn't. He showed restraint, which was probably, like, I think was genuinely for the best for his game. Yeah. No, and like, that's still, not even we already talked about with coach. I'm like, I'm still confused as to how coach was like, who told them about the split? It's like, how do you think the split had?

How do you think the split? Time out. Time out. Because here's my question. we see coach going up to everybody telling them where to vote. So then when coach is like, who told them? Bitch, you did. You did.

It's like that's how making a plan works, coach. Like, you were the one. Like, Coach and Devons and Emily are not just going to stick there like, whatever coach says, I'm just going to do it and not talk to anybody. It's like, we want to roll. road trip. Jesse like, I don't want to drive no more. And coach is like, all right, I'm driving.

I'm going to get us there. And then it's like two hours into it, Jack's like, Bryce, you missed the exit. And coach is like, who missed the exit? Who drove past the exit? Coke, it was you. Like, what you mean? Joe's cooking up a firehouse analogy to relate to that.

as we speak. Where does Joe is? Because we have it like, again, another person that's kind of been laying to the back a little bit. We know he's a part of the four horsemen, but we don't see him as vocal as Jonathan or coach. We don't see him as vocal as a Christian.

Do we feel like this is maybe a position he should be in? My only concern with Joe is that I don't see him enough ingratiating. with six, with three, with Ozzie, like I only see him with the horse.

What do you all think? I think Joe is, you know, he's playing his game and it's a pretty straightforward one and he's got his people. We never expected Joe

to be a real mover and shaker this season. I don't even mean that in like a shady way. Like we just, he's coming right off 48. He's kind of playing the same way. Yeah, I don't have high hopes for Joe, just position-wise, you know. Yeah, it's hard to judge because we didn't see much from him,

so, like, I don't know what the dynamics are. He, I think I think I saw he, like, popped up when the whole coach and Jonathan and D fight was happening. He just suddenly was like, just in the, everybody else is like staying back, and Joe just like slowly is like, I'm the third horseman. I need to be here. He's like, he's like, guys, are we meeting right now?

Is Rizzo invited or? Wait, do I get Rizzo? Yeah. Is he in yet? Are we all yelling at D? I mean, he's the only white guy left. I mean, should we grab him or? I mean, Joe was probably like, should I go get Charlie?

Like, is he? It's like, y'all, that's your job, bro. Y'all ain't nothing. The MVP during that, who would have been me, was Emily Flippin. Emily Flippin was live. Oh, some shit is going there. Oh, and it's like something. I think Joe came up.

It was like, it just started. She's such a, she's such an instigator. I love it. Great. But I do appreciate Joe. His fire. analogies were awful. So I'm glad that he was able to be like,

all right, guys, I'm going to stop doing those. Everyone was like, thank you. Because it was a Tyler Perry call. Well, he just got off 48, so he was like, okay, I think Jeff likes these. Like, I'm just going to keep them. It's like, Joe, we're not casting anymore, bro. You can say it.

You can speak normally. Maybe he was plugging. Maybe he was like, you know, had already talked to Tyler Perry and he was like, yeah, yeah. Plug the show. But it's like, it's, re-clocked it pretty like well

and set spoke of, like, like, you know, kind of push back but in like a non-competational way. But it's like, so Joe, you're comparing the game of Survivor where everyone's competing by themselves for a million dollars to you guys all working as a team

in the firehouse to like be heroes. Like those are just such different. He's like, I don't understand why we can't all just work together and figure this out together. it's like, well, Joe, if you had to go kill one of the firemen at the firehouse, not everyone would be so excited to collaborate. You know what I mean? I would die, honestly, if I tried to make an analogy.

And someone just came for me in tribal. Because, like, you don't want to make analogies at tribal, but, like, you start to feel like you have to because everybody's doing it. So, like, if I made an attempt and I got sure, shut down. Like, you would never hear for me again at tribal council. I'd be on the side. Like, that's a bad analogy.

The nail of the coffin was like 30 minutes in. Hossie's like, and back to what Joe was trying to because I do if there is a fire, I would pull the truck up near a hydrant.

trying to rescue it. Joe's like, thank you. Thank you. I mean, so maybe that is like an indicate, like they have a good relationship or something. That's what I'll take away from that.

I think that's, that's how you got to connect with Joe is just speaking in Firehouse references. Like he hits one of those analogies. He'd be like, Joe, that was fire. Although maybe you think that was bad. I don't know. Like he'd be like,

are you calling it bad? Because, you know, Joe doesn't like fire. maybe you have to be like, Joe, that was that analogy was not fire. He'd be like, thank God, we fixed it. Sorry, that was so bad. Yeah, I don't know how I love me a Joe, but I don't know how we would get along because I'll be like, I slide down pose, Joe. Joe would be like, you should come join the team. You're like, I'm like, I'm like, but I shake a little ass at the edge.

I'm like, oh, listen, needless to say, I definitely think, well, listen, we still haven't seen Mr. Beetz and Jimmy Allen. Where's Jimmy? Where's Mr. Beast? I'm still trying to, I mean, are they a part of the Four Wars, man? I don't know. He's going to get an invite, man. I don't know what they will do, but I do know that. I've heard the editors have been reworking the episodes, but I definitely will say 50 has, sorry, Joe, we've re-ignore. night at the fire

because I'm in. I'm in. I, I, we see the civil rights movement

happening in front of our eyes. Oh my God. I got to think Tiffany, though. I love what Tiffany was given. I think she goes there.

Wait, about you know the civil rights movement that use fire holes. But anyway, never mind. No. Oh,

y'all ain't get there. But Jesse got there. Jack and, I wasn't, I wasn't around that. But we see the fire ignited in Tiffany. We see Ceree locked in with Riz. We see Ozzy is showing he is still Oscar.

We see Stephanie could still hold her hand up and call the manager. We see a coach is coaching. We see Jonathan is making plans. It's a lot unfolding, so I'm super excited. I'm even more excited that, Jesse, that you took the wind beneath the wings and got rid of the wind. Wind chime and chimed in here on the Purple Pants podcast, Jack, you are my shirt, you and my heart. We're excited to see where the season goes. And so, any last words before we put this fire?

I think that Bryce might have been trying to do a haiku there. Well, to coach his standard, I did. The wind. Yeah. The wind chime thing. You didn't help me out, Jesse. I was stalling for you to finish. I'm not good at writing haikus.

I'm not coach. Cut from the same clock. Jack. Jack, take us home. We got to go. We got to go. I don't have a high school to go, but, you know,

it's been real, you guys. Take the prize. Survivor news. What's so fun with Jesse Lopez. Oh. Dang, that was a high too. My man, my man. Jesse, love you.

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