RHAP: We Know Survivor - Purple Pants Podcast | Survivor 51 Premiere Recap: “Lasagna”
Episode Date: September 25, 2026Purple Pants Podcast | Survivor 51 Premiere Recap: “Lasagna” Survivor 51 is officially here, the Open Era has begun, and the baby boys are back for their first Survivor News recap of the season! F...resh off a wild night together in New York City kicking off the BWP51 Tour, Brice, Wendell, and Jack are reunited to break down everything from a premiere that gave us 21 new castaways, two tribes, Exile Island, permanent uncertainty, old school Survivor energy, and one VERY live Tribal Council. From first impressions already being put to the test to Lewis taking one for the team, Jenna fighting for her life, Brady getting fired up, two Shots in the Dark, and Aaliyah becoming the first person voted out of Survivor 51, there is already PLENTY to talk about. And somehow, somewhere along the way… we got lasagna. The Open Era said expect the unexpected, and after one episode, Survivor News is already off the rails. Baby, we’re just getting started! Tickets and updates for Brice and Wen 51 events: https://briceandwenpresent.flite.city/ You can also watch along on Brice Izyah’s YouTube channel to watch us break it all down https://youtube.com/channel/UCFlglGPPamVHaNAb0tL_s7g LISTEN: Subscribe to the Purple Pants podcast feed WATCH: Watch and subscribe to the podcast on YouTube SUPPORT: Become a RHAP Patron for bonus content, access to Facebook and Discord groups plus more great perks! Previously on the Purple Pants Podcast Feed: Purple Pants Podcast Archives
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Season 51.
I serve as your humble and oh so gracious host, Bryce Isaiah.
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episode. The baby boys are officially back. Survivor. Season is here. It's almost as good as
Bait Lazzania. And let me be clear, my lasagna is way better than Jellie's Lazzania.
Jack Wendell and myself are breaking down the open era, the chaos, the journey, the challenges.
We're getting into all of the nuances so much. You know your baby boys are so excited to be.
back. We just were all together for the premiere episode in New York for the BWP 51. And so listen,
the timer says the lasagna is done. Let's get into this week's episode.
Survivor News.
It was recording.
It's recording, Wendell.
Stop our music.
I'm not starting until the music drops.
Welcome to
Survivor News.
The Baby Boys are back, baby.
Season 51, we're back.
We had a great first episode,
and we're here to cover all of that.
But first and foremost,
I'd like to introduce
some of my good, good, good friends,
all of whom were with me last night in New York City
at the 51 premiere, baby.
So first, I'd like to introduce
the one and only
from the floor is lava.
An alternate on season 47, 48, and 49, and 50.
21 and 52.
Why not?
53, this could be my...
year.
This is you from the Circle season two.
You might know him as Emily.
The one and only Jack Atkins is in a building.
What's up, brodies?
Man, good to be back.
If you tune into our preseason first impressions, thank you.
But it's good to finally have an episode we can sink our teeth into in chat.
So so excited to be here.
It's great to face, Jack.
For the intro.
I do what I can.
You know, I'm trying to start the season off right and strong.
Yeah.
Next up we have, you might know him as one of the standout characters from Survivor Ka Guyan.
One of, he lights up the screen.
He's electric.
Some people might know him as one of the best.
players to ever play Survivor.
He owns
an incredible podcast
Empire.
The other half,
the, I'm stuttering.
The other half of
Bryce and Wen, ladies and
gentlemen,
Bryce Isaiah is in the building.
What's popping, baby
boys? We're back another season.
So good to actually be able
to touch Jack yesterday.
What?
Oh,
pack it up.
I thought we weren't talking about that, right?
I got to see Wendy Z.
And yeah, we are here.
Excited to be here.
It's a very exciting.
It's a very exciting time.
It's a time for openness.
Yes, it is the open era.
And of course, we can't forget our third co-host.
Sometimes we forget it's Ghost Island that he won because he'd be ghost on the
podcast.
But listen, he was all go styling.
He was the third merge boot on winners at war.
Destination X season two.
I'll wait.
Winters at war year.
Destination X season two yet to come out.
And the man that loves to text in a group chat.
All right, gentlemen, what are the driving orders?
but he don't ever seem to be in the driving order.
Let's welcome back to the podcast.
A man who called me incessantly four times this morning.
I said, hello?
I just got my irrigation system fixed.
Window Holland.
Don't do that.
That is a, you know what?
Yeah, okay.
Jack, I thought he was calling me to talk about Survivor.
I'm like, I didn't do the rewatch yet.
This man is like, they found a leak.
Could you, they found a leak, perp.
They fixed it.
Jack, we're going to touch on this briefly.
My front yard, I have an irrigation in my lawn.
My front yard slopes.
It's pitched, but I wanted to level it.
I wanted to regrade the front.
So Bryce and I ordered 10 yards of dirt, and we regraded it.
But there were two of the irrigation sprinklers in that area.
so I had to leave holes around them.
So they had to come and raise the irrigation system.
And they found that I had a leak towards my backyard.
So they came and fixed it.
I was reporting this news to Bryce because Bryce helped me move all that dirt.
And I thought he wanted to know.
But I guess, I guess not.
And just like that, our viewers are hooks and ready to tap in for the new season.
It's the open area.
And Wendell had to open up his sprinklers a little bit.
But, yeah, it was great seeing y'all last night in New York City.
It's always fun to podcasts after we've been together because I feel like we get other stories going around and beyond the episode.
You have other stories, Jack?
Well, one thing that I just was reminded of as Bryce was doing his intro was I brought a couple friends.
Oh, right back.
came to play matchmaker from one of my buddies.
And as he was working his way in to set up
and facilitate a little matchmaking,
he was like, my buddy Charlie was like,
so what'd you do?
You know,
what'd you do after Survivor?
Like, where did that?
Like, how'd you do?
Where did that bring?
You don't have to go here.
And Bryce was like, no.
The most serious I've ever seen Bryce was like,
so I did win my season and that.
And my friend was like, that's great.
Like, congrats.
That's great.
And Bryce was like, thank you.
Thank you.
It's been a long.
Bernie. And he did not, he kept the bit going the whole time, which I, and I was just
standing there cracking up, also wondering why Bryce doesn't match me for me a little bit more,
but, you know, lots of fun stories from last night. Lots of great people. I've seen him do that
so many times, talking about his survivor win. It's so impressive. Jack snapped his head so quick.
Jack was like, and I was joking, but. No, I thought it was a good bit. Like,
The way, but the way Charlie locked in, I was like, I can't let them down.
But also, shout out to Charlie from Vanderpump Villa.
Okay, he's a tall glass of water.
And, but also Jack was looking fire in his fit.
Jack had on some black slacks, some loafers, had on like a little button-up shirt.
He didn't button it all the way up.
He had on a tank top, a little chaps.
Jack was looking fire yesterday.
I needed that, honestly.
Another funny, another quick funny instance was Charlie's friend who doesn't watch a lot of reality TV.
Someone was like, I think he would ask someone, one of the fans, like, you know, how did you get involved?
Like, what brought you here?
And they're like, I know Bryson Wendell.
And he's like, who's Bryson?
And they just had like a miscommunity.
But I realize if you say Bryson Wendell, it's like, it could be someone whose name is Bryson.
Wendell.
Wow.
So I was like, that's the first time I've seen that miscommunication, but it's kind of a new, new character in the lower.
That's actually the password to all our accounts.
Now we're going to have a lot.
I know.
We just changed him, but he's not lying, Jay.
But yeah, it was a fun time just to be back and in the open era to see so many familiar faces, so many new faces.
so many new faces.
Yeah, it was great.
Yeah.
It was awesome.
It felt like we were back,
right back in the swing of things.
And of course,
I took some time off at the end of last season.
So to come back and see all our New York people,
all the reality alum,
we even had a special guest in the building.
Should we talk about that?
Or should we wait to get to that?
Lewis from season 51 was in the building.
It was so exciting to see Lewis, his girlfriend, her friend.
It was just great.
And we had so many amazing reality stars in the building.
There also was the premiere of 99 to Beat that had some survivor crossover.
I think Kelly, Nambariano, Nabarziano.
However you want to say it, yeah.
She was on it.
And so what the cool thing about it is why it's so great with the survivor community.
Kelly was having a watch party a couple of blocks down.
And so it was like people were coming from Kelly's to ours.
Ours going to Kelly's coming back to ours.
And so it was like so great of the survivor community.
So like again, and shout out Ricky from Amazing Race.
He was on.
Shout out Frank.
Who?
The floor.
The floor.
Yes.
Frankie Sina, Ricky.
Yeah, there were a lot of,
there were a lot of our reality friends in the building for,
because they watched the floor before watching Survivor at our event too.
And yeah, it was, it was a night of lots of reality happenings.
Yeah, I mean, now more than ever,
it's kind of peak reality time last night, Survivor premiere,
the floor premiere, 99-7B premiere, Big Brother,
Traders is on tonight.
Lots of reality.
to keep up with. The fans are staying fed
and it's a good time to be a reality
fan. Yeah.
Yeah. And what is
so great about being a reality fan
is that there are so many things that
you can
attend. There are so many
things that you can go to, including
the Bryce and When
51. We are on tour.
We just did New York City. We have
Chicago, D.C., Nashville,
San Francisco. We have Atlanta
with Jonathan. Jonathan
is joining us in Atlanta on October 7th for a very big costume party.
Costumes are mandatory with our good, good brother, Davy Armstrong.
Rick Embacher will be in the building.
And if we're in Atlanta, we know Atlanta has a lot of good survivor and reality
alums and they will be in the building.
We also have Chicago coming up on October 14th at Barcassina Westtown.
me and Bryce.
Chicago is one of our favorite stops.
Chicago always shows out.
I love going to the shy.
And we also are announcing a big one.
We did our big one, ladies and gentlemen.
Bryce and Wend, collaborating with Live Nation for the Survivor 51 finale.
We're going to be at the Gramercy Theater in December.
Tickets on Ticketmaster right now.
That is right.
Ticket Master. The link is in the Bryson Wynn, present Instagram bio, or you can go to Ticketmaster and purchase your ticket. This is a huge collaboration for two black entrepreneurs and the survivor community to be working with Live Nation. So we are super excited and we want to just show out and show up. And so if you know Bryson Wynn, we're working on something so special. This tour just took launch yesterday in New York City. And it is for sure to be.
an amazing event.
So please come support your baby boys.
And listen.
Houston, we have a problem.
Houston, we have a problem.
Okay?
The launch was so successful, Jack.
Houston is calling us.
I think we need to announce
or launch a co-tour.
I don't know. We can't launch it
just yet, but just no.
Houston,
not the actual city
Houston.
I'm like, what they say in the
you know, Houston, we have a problem.
Well, listen, Bryson, winter here's a fix it.
And so we are gearing up for another tour.
And so depending on how
our Atlanta shop does, you know,
there might be some other things.
And when he says Houston, we got our eyes on Texas.
We got our eyes on Texas.
We got our eyes on Nashville.
We got, it's a lot of things popping.
We got our eyes on Knoxville.
We got our eyes on a lot of places that we might not normally stop on the tour.
So it's the open era.
And so we're excited.
I got to add to a, well, congrats on the Live Nation collab.
That's big.
And I love the space theme you guys got going on.
That might be one of my favorite.
Bryce and when presents themes to this date.
So very excited.
Well, thank you, Jack.
It's, you know, a lot of hard work goes into it,
even if people don't understand it.
Bryce?
It's hard to even talk about.
It's hard to talk about.
Okay.
We just got the green light.
Ah.
Well, hold up.
Give me a second.
Now wait a minute.
That's what I'm used to.
Hold up.
And we're not talking Jack Adkins' lighting.
Okay.
Well, listen.
T minus 3.7 seconds.
Like, it looks like.
Hold on.
That one.
Was texting me and saying that we can announce right now.
So this is a purple pants, Survivor News,
podcast exclusive.
Okay, okay.
All right, we're going to try this one more time because now I'm getting pissed off.
Is this breaking news?
This is, yes, this is breaking news.
Breaking news.
Bryson went present Mr. Jonathan Young on tour, ladies and gentlemen.
Wow.
Jonathan Young's tour starting in Atlanta on October 7th with Bryce went and Davey.
He's then going to Knoxville.
Tennessee, and I was told that he's going to have a huge surprise guest in Knoxville.
That will be November 4th at the Armory.
Then he will go on November 18th to Nashville to Love and Exile.
This is a new venue for us in Nashville.
And we've been there for pregames before.
We know the space.
This is a great venue.
And finally, the Jonathan Young tour will culminate with a finale.
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So yes, there are multiple launches.
And so, yeah, it's the open era, and we are open.
Let's go.
And we might be announcing another tour within the next couple weeks.
So you just keep on the lookout.
We got the Philly Garcia tour.
We are going to Kalamazoo.
Don't tell them.
Tuscaloosa.
First of all.
Schenectady.
You're going to put some respect on my guy, Billy Garcia.
If Billy Garcia had a tour, I would be there.
Okay.
Wow.
I am screaming.
Well, listen, we're 16 minutes and 13 seconds in.
I think it's time for us to get open.
Yeah, I feel like we were almost stalling because I'm so nervous to get into all of the new, the open.
the open era.
I mean,
Sharonda's just been bottom right
of our screen
just bogging the whole time,
serving looks down there.
So I feel like it's time
we talk about the episode.
Yeah.
I mean,
absolutely.
Well, I'm excited.
I'm excited about this season.
This episode started.
I think this got us right
into Survivor mode.
And I think,
I think this open era
is going to be something special.
I mean, where do we, where do we begin?
Should we just start on the boat?
We can.
Bryce, take us where you want to go.
Don't have, Jack, don't give me that.
Because if you, if that's what you want from me, I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
That's what I want in.
Bryce, let's jump right in.
All right, fuck it.
Let's jump right in.
Okay.
On our last episode, I was saying the diversity is lacking.
I don't know how I feel.
But let me just say this, okay?
My people are color.
They, after that marooning and all,
they didn't even have to say nothing.
They didn't have to say nothing.
And that is why we started the diversity initiative.
We wanted people to just be out there to be able to play.
Not as you against me.
Not as what.
Bitch, they didn't even have to say nothing.
Devin looked at Sharonda
Sharonda looked at Jelly
Jelly looked at Ovi
like jelly looked at Ovi a couple of times
ORI, ORI.
Ory. Jelly looked at Ory a couple
of times. Girls, she was talking about making
lasagna. Okay? From the lasagna, we looked at
Aaliyah and baby
we said, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo,
locked in.
Fast forward to the end of the episode.
Well,
we'll get there.
Locked out.
So that for me was, oh,
it felt good to see that.
It felt really good to see that.
And they knew they were like,
yo, let's do this, let's do this,
let's get out of here.
Yes.
Yes.
So that was a highlight for me.
The marooning in general, I loved it.
Absolutely loved it.
To the point that I almost felt like CBS forgot that like Survivor 50 is over and we need to like do something for the new season because when Survivor said the open error, I mean, these people, they just started throwing stuff in the ocean.
Jeff Rung a bell.
He ain't say nothing else.
They just went to the ocean.
They got all the stuff.
They're on the beach.
They like, wait.
I love the uncertainty, Bryce.
I love that you, hey, let's get this stuff and let's get out of here.
I love it.
I love it.
I did find that funny, though, because you can tell,
A, when Jeff was walking through the whole boat at the start and everyone,
you can tell when the camera passed, people by,
they were kind of like really just trying to listen.
but then I felt
I could sense the confusion and I felt it
because I would have been like
well who's on my team like who am I supposed to be grabbing
the stuff with like are we all just
grabbing everything together like what's
what's the race for that I guess you know
so um
but I guess to Wendell's point
that the confusion kind of makes it
fun and I love when they all get to the beach and they're still like
what are we supposed to do it just felt so fresh
compared to kind of the
repetitiveness of the new era
that now it's it really
does feel different
and I appreciated that element of it.
This gave me classic
IKEA furniture.
Have you ever put together
IKEA furniture? Bitch, they got
pictures, but no words
and no instructions, okay?
That's what the open, the Open
Survivor has done a collab with
IKEA. They said.
Here's the beach.
And here's what you need.
And that's it.
But yeah, I loved it as well.
It was like so refreshing where it was just like a classic marooning,
people diving off, people getting.
I was also confused as like, why are y'all getting on this raft?
Okay.
And also you could tell the people that could not swim because bitch,
Why is you grabbing the life vest?
Okay, I don't think that that is for y'all to take.
I think they had to have that on the boat.
But like, I love just seeing all of them.
And let me just say this.
My girl, Kristen, oh, baby, she's somebody to watch.
My girl, Kristen, is somebody to watch.
She was on that boat.
Chavada was just, whoosh, whoosh.
Kristen said, hey, did you go to elementary school?
Sharonda's like, yeah.
She's like, did they have sports?
Geron's like, yeah.
Chris is like, so did my school.
We're locked in, right?
Like, I just,
she said something like college athlete or something like that.
She gets a real one can spot a real one.
That's what she did.
Did you go to elementary school?
There were a lot of those moments, though, Bryce,
where people were like, you know,
I saw the way that they rode the oar,
and I was like, I know we're good.
What do you mean?
I was working on a while, and I know we're good.
Okay.
I felt like Pat, after being around all of them people,
I would have lost my pants too.
Pat was like, wear my pants at.
Girl, mine's been off, okay?
Mines have been off.
Bryce, you would have thrown the pants over.
overboard and intentionally left him, they're like, oh, no, Ori, where did my pants go?
I don't know where they went, Ori.
Brody.
Can I borrow yours?
Can we share them, Brody?
Okay.
But I love how eclectic this group is.
There's just, I feel like there's like your classic survivor people, and then there's a lot of like the outliers.
and my intrigued interest or I'm intrigued by a lot of the outliers
that we didn't really get to see a lot of.
But very excited, very, like, confused, very, like, it's very given hat in the box.
They pull the stuff out and saying, this is what we're going to do.
But, yeah, I loved it.
And, yeah, and with this marooning, throwing stuff off the,
off the boat, everyone jumping in,
it's giving old school marooning vibes,
and you get on the island,
and we have,
we got 21 castaways,
and somebody has to get to going.
I also want to say,
this is the first time in a very long time.
Where is it going?
The survivors are wearing their press
interview outfits.
Normally, they're not wearing
exactly what they see in the press
photos. They're actually
wearing their press outfits. And again, that
makes me feel like back in
the day when Survivor used to act
like they was getting you from your job
and you would just go right to the island.
That was also something like very
interesting to me.
Yeah. And it's funny, too,
they had people in very specific
colors, but the colors weren't ultimately like relevant, right?
We can see even in this photo behind us, Brady's wearing all blue,
charondas in red, you see a lot of reds and blues and things like that,
but they didn't really correspond a ton, right?
So, I don't know, that was kind of an interesting factor.
Or did they correspond?
I don't know.
Maybe.
I feel like they correspond.
But when they got wet, it kind of all just mesh together.
I also loved the...
What's up?
I'm seeing some correspondence.
Like, I feel like...
I feel like I'm seeing...
I'm trying to remember who was on what tribe.
Because jelly was with Devon.
Right.
But she wasn't with OV?
But the tribes are yellow and purple.
Right.
So they're completely different.
So I also feel like that kind of, I feel like Survivor might have been on the one with this where when you do take your press photos, like you will see people get up in their outfits.
And so maybe after last or after season 49, you know, the Sage Chronicles, I think maybe they did this to maybe eliminate a little of that.
But I loved it.
But I also loved the open network.
I love the fact that this was like a LinkedIn event on Fiji where it's like
Meet everybody right like you need to meet everyone because the connection that you can have right now
Just saying hello to someone right will potentially transcend just like Jelly and Ovi where like and mind you also first of all
Ory ori orie orie give me a week orie but first of all shout out to my girl Jelly because like
bring showmances back.
I'm with you, sis.
Bring them back.
Okay?
Girl, now, and I'm sure, and I love my girl jelly,
I'm sure she makes a mean lasagna,
but girl, girl,
okay, and I just want Ovi.
Ori.
Ori.
I'm just,
How are you doing, Ori?
I'm not Italian,
but
I do stew my own
tomatoes,
put a little ground beef,
little cottage cheese,
make my own pasta.
Put a little cheese on the top,
put it in that oven,
jellies, lasagna,
ain't got nothing on this.
Okay.
Leave Ori alone, Bryce.
Leave him alone.
Jelly got him.
Jelly and her lasagna got Ori.
I'm just telling you.
I ain't never seen nobody bind over no damn lasagna jelly, okay?
But I'm with you, girl.
I'm with you.
That's like me on the date, okay?
With lamello ball, lamello.
I like baklava.
I make my own baklava.
I like how jelly was putting it down, though.
Okay, my girl said, you ain't had lasagna.
You had my lasagna.
Jelly had, jelly had me.
She wasn't playing around.
Yeah.
Our show, it's the open era.
Maybe you and Jelly and Ori could all figure something out.
Well, we would have to open it up a little bit more, too.
I mean, you know, lasagna, there's multiple layers.
There's multiple layers, okay?
It's the polycule of foods.
I'm going to need a Brody up in there.
Okay.
If you don't leave these, these topped off with,
topped off with a little devon.
And listen, hear me out.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
My sauce might come from Rhode Island and his name Rob,
because when Rob took that shirt off,
I said, what the hell is going on here at American Airlines?
Get me a ticket
And listen
You like those tattoos?
Listen
And Carter, I'm locking with you too
Real life.
I'm just saying
And while we're at it
It's the open era.
Chavonda, what's up, sister?
Okay.
And listen.
Jenna
You're the whole class.
Shinda, you've been single.
You ain't been single since you were 18.
Baby, I need some photos.
Let's get married.
Let's hit the open era.
I see everybody.
Oh, God.
The open era is Bryce's favorite era.
Okay.
I see you too, Maggie.
Okay.
Thank you to everybody.
Name folks.
Go ahead.
Lanaya, I see you too.
Let, no.
Lenea.
I need some outfits for when I present my lasagna.
Bryce, you can bring the whole cash shopping at Lennay's store.
Oh, how could I forget?
How could I forget?
Sorry.
I didn't mean to forget when I take my lasagna out.
I got to put it in the oven to make sure it's cheerfully delightful.
I don't know it.
Forget it.
Oh.
All right.
All right.
Okay.
So in case we're forgetting,
who was on the cast,
but it's just named them all.
But,
okay,
so speaking of Lewis,
you know.
He's delighted.
He had to his journey.
Someone,
yeah,
they're all on the beach
and someone's got to go
on a journey.
and Lewis sort of quickly volunteers.
He says he's like, I just thought I'd get it started.
But it's like, my guy, that just means it's going to be you.
Lewis is me at work on teams when somebody's like,
does anybody have a free minute?
You know, you want to respond so that it looks like you're the team member.
I got a free minute.
Yeah, that just means no one else has a free minute after that.
Yeah.
what do we think about
because this is different
and that we sort of get this one world start
to things where everyone's mixing and mingling
which I think maybe if
because we've seen situations where people
have to volunteer as like
even Kaga-a-on-Brice
you had to like pick a leader
you know so with this being
kind of that one-world feel
does that influence
how you guys would think about like
the potential of being the one
to go on this little journey
Is that something you guys would ever do?
Or is it kind of like, I'm not leaving the group?
I ain't leaving the group.
At this point, I ain't leaving the group.
Right now, no.
So what, again, what I think is so interesting about the open era, right?
I think when we are on the boat, I think Jeff kind of like really cracks the coconut open
when he says permanently uncertain, right?
Because I feel like if this was.
42, 43, 44, 45, 46, they would have been jumping at the opportunity because in the new era, something like this means, you're going to have a choice.
It's a journey.
You're going to get a reward, right?
And I think that they really took key to what Jeff was saying, like, permanently uncertainty.
And so, like, it really led, like, I don't know.
And so I kind of was shocked because a lot of these people are survivor fans.
And so I would have thought that they would have been ravishing at the idea.
But I think it's the element of you don't even know your tribes yet.
And so you don't want to like when you're already on your tribe, it's like, okay, here's a journey.
It's an opportunity to go do something.
This, it is the uncertainty of like, I don't even know if I have a tribe that I'm going to be on yet.
There's obviously, I think you got to factor in.
There's 21 people.
To me, I would have been thinking.
Now, I think that the move is not to volunteer here.
You don't want to single yourself out this early in any way.
But I'm also the type where if I was in Lewis's shoes, I get it.
Because in a lot of situations where everyone else is like, oh, I don't want to do that.
Sometimes I feel like I'll be the guy to, you know, let me go explore this and see what's up.
Maybe it's my own best interest.
But I do think that I would be thinking, okay, there's 21 people.
We don't have tribes yet.
either I feel like now maybe this is just easier to Monday morning quarterback right but
I feel like either I'm going to be safe for the first tribal council and join whatever team
loses which I think you'd rather have time early on I have those inroads but it's like okay
at least I'm safe and I can join a tribe where there might already be some fractures or maybe
I get to like either pick my like pick my tribe if like if I'm the odd man out I can pick my
assuming I'm going like the first tribal council
or maybe I have some stake in like making the tribes
which could be an asset I suppose so I do think ultimately you're kind of like
I don't know if I want to separate myself from the group but it seemed like
everyone else was really being like awkward about it and sometimes I feel like you get some
good some goodwill if you're like hey if no one wants to do this I guess I'll step up
I also think for Lewis now it's tough because he didn't get the idol which I thought he
be able to figure it out.
But I think in that situation,
I was thinking about, you know,
if I get the idol,
I do think it's a situation where
I go to whatever tribe I end up on.
So in this case,
it's going to be the yellow tribe
because they lost a member.
And I think I genuinely come in.
I'm like,
hey, guys,
I was at exile.
I got an idol and I'm going to play it
at the first tribal council.
And I think that's something
that you do follow through it.
Because A,
it keeps your name out of everybody's mouth.
Like,
everyone's going to be thinking you got
something. By saying I have an
idol, you answer that question,
you say, I'm going to play it at the first tribal.
It's going to keep your name just off
the table and the other names are going to circulate.
And then I think you played at the first
tribal and everyone's like, okay, he's a man
of his word. Like,
they're honest, they're pretty straightforward.
I think that creates a lot of currency
in the game and obviously buys you time
to get your feet more planted in
that tribe. So I wish Lewis
would be able to get the idol.
So now, yeah, coming in
without the idol could be tricky
because obviously there's also that opportunity
of like people are still going to be
wondering what did he get something
so I guess
we won't see this really unfold
until next episode but if you're Lewis now with no
idol how do you
enter this yellow tribe
and kind of get yourself
firmly ingrained in the group
well
fortunate for him how
the tribe ends up
I think he'll be welcomed
with open arms, right?
Like I think like it's almost
we'll have to see how it unfolds,
but I think it's a perfect storm for him
seeing how he'll enter this tribe.
But what I thought was the most egregious thing
was the fuck you mean to tell me
Lewis was out there for 30 hours.
Could you imagine
like you're all sent to this journey?
and bitch they forgot about you.
Bitch.
They said season 50 over.
Okay.
He went into that other thing and they forgot about him.
And how I know they forgot about him is why the hell is Jeff Prope's walking up.
Okay?
Like what?
You don't bring Jeff out unless somebody is hurt or if it's season 39, somebody got touch.
That's the only reason why you bring Jeff out.
That's crazy.
Bryce because like usually we get some footage of them doing whatever they're doing just like guys guys we got to make a run real quick I think we might a
the Irish man we might one boy with the accent he was laying out yeah yeah there's not much to do when you're out like obviously I don't know what what do you do it's like do you really build anything because you're there for not that long
Most people will be like, oh, my God, I can't believe his Jeff.
Lewis was like, oh, is someone to talk to?
Like, he was really out there.
Yeah.
Maybe that's the biggest downside, though.
And obviously Lewis didn't necessarily know this is what he was signing up for is
even if you could ingratiate yourself well with your new tribe.
One, you're ending up on a tribe that's already lost a challenge, which is probably somewhat of a factor.
And that the fact that they could.
What's up?
Did you lose the challenge?
Well, the Yellow Tribe lost the challenge.
But I mean, next week it's going to be 10 in 10.
I know, but I think there's probably some,
the loser of the first challenge typically loses
probably more challenges going forward than the other group,
statistically.
You saw how Lewis was axing that ax,
not my back, but that ax.
Not that well.
Not well enough.
No, no, Lewis is definitely going to be an asset in the challenges,
but I'd still, you're okay.
It's like I'm ending up in the,
probably the weaker tribe.
And also, I think the biggest thing is,
that's a great, like,
he was there for 30 hours,
he's there for more,
because he's probably not going to show up until the next day,
so call it 45 hours.
That's like two days.
That's a 13th of the game.
And out there on the island,
it's long.
And I would say this,
then I'm going to be quiet.
Okay.
I like what, y'all did.
your big one survivor, hear me out and hear me clear.
We don't need no pre-merge.
Mergatory, we don't need that BS now.
We had that on the front end.
And I would love that.
Like, I like that.
Now we don't need a mergerary.
I feel like whenever we merge, we should just merge now.
That's just my two cents.
But yeah, I think it's worth noting that, you know, say he's gone
for about two days maybe.
And when the game's 26 days,
that's actually like a very impactful amount of time.
So, yeah, tough for Lewis,
but I think he'll be able to figure it out.
I tink, I tink.
What do we think about his axe skills?
Do we think he was set up for failure?
That looked like a small hourglass.
I wonder what kind of time he really had.
And I wonder who could have gotten that done?
Ovi?
Yeah.
Brody.
Who's Ovi?
Ori.
No, it looked tough.
I mean, it's tough.
Yeah, it's tough when you, like, we saw his hands.
Caronda.
Kristen.
If I were him, I would have taken my,
I would have used my shirt to, like, wrap my hands and do it.
Also, what I would have done, this wasn't really expressly stated, I don't think.
once you get it to a certain point
I'd either go from the other direction
or I'd like jump on the tree
and like use my body weight to make it crack
because he said I know they said
you can't like shake it but when you get
when you get to a certain point you could
yeah you know so
I think there was some I think he had it in him
I just think but also yeah when it's
you're dehydrated your hands are all messed up
like because he was solid at the start
and he was almost done
Because you get it to a certain point, you obviously don't have to cut all the way through.
You get it like 80%.
You could just crack the ass at that.
What would you crack you?
I'll put the jack in lumberjack.
That wasn't meant to be, you know.
I'm going to stop talking about wood.
That's a good idea.
So what about this challenge?
A big challenge.
We get to see these tribe dynamics.
We get to see how people work together.
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Before we go to that, we do have to pick a team captain.
We pick Kili-Billy and we pick Kristen.
and I had a lot of hope in
Kelby, Kelby.
Kilby.
But baby
but baby
it's the open error
and Kristen got the Britches moist.
Okay, she said
Kelby don't,
Kilby don't stand a trance.
And even how she was talking to him,
like the lawyer came out.
She was like, well,
hey, how are you?
I guess we're here.
here to decide which one of these things we're going to get, right?
And Kulby was like, whoa, yeah.
And Krista was like, it's not like I want the Flint, so which one do you want?
And Kielby's like, well, actually, I like the shelter.
Okay.
Like, the way she handled that was very impressive to me.
Like, because she was in control of that conversation and it wasn't in
an aggressive manner, right?
It was like very calm.
She gave them options, but like she was very clear in how she wanted to maneuver.
And baby, Kristen, come over here, get a plate, a Laziah girl.
But tell me why.
So I think Kristen did a solid job, but I think Kilby maybe even did a better job, you know,
Like, now his thumb wrestling skills might not have been up to snuff, but it's, okay, right, there were four batches of items.
You have like the pot-flint machete, the shelter building, the, like the building materials, like the shelter stuff itself, and then the fishing gear.
They end up each getting two and two, which Kilby almost got three through a potential, you know, thumb-wrestle negotiation.
and then if I'm him,
I think the best things to get
are the building materials
and the shelter supplies
because,
A, I'm going to assume
one of these people on my tribe
probably knows how to make fire
without Flint.
And we also see,
I think after their tribal,
they got Flint and they got like a machete.
So it seems now that you get those things anyways
after one tribal.
And the fishing gear,
evidently, you know,
we see Eric come back with a little guppy.
That's not doing that much.
And then if you have no, like, obviously fire is valuable,
but if you have no shelter,
like the shelter seems like more of an immediate asset
in getting everyone a good night's rest.
And I mean, I suppose they did lose the first challenge.
But to me, I think like night one,
I'd rather have those guaranteed materials
and then hope that someone on my tribe can make fire.
And even if they don't, it looks like we're getting Flint after we go to one tribal now.
So now the yellow tribe, Kilby's tribe is set up.
They're going to have Flint.
I think Jeff maybe even mentioned some other stuff from losing or from going to tribal.
And they've got a better shelter.
So what?
Like Kristen got the fishing gear and like that has done nothing for them so far.
So and I liked Kilby's like Kristen seemed like she came in ready to really negotiate,
which she did.
and she executed that well,
and she wasn't over-eager about it,
but it seemed like maybe if someone pushed back
that she would have,
whereas Kilby kind of came with like,
hey, I want to work with you in this game.
Like, let's work together and figure this out.
And I think he got a pretty good end of the deal.
So, you know, to me, it was props to Kilby.
Shelter equipment is really good,
especially like if Flint is,
you're going to get Flint eventually.
But having some shelter equipment is, like you said,
it's like you could put,
you could put a,
harp over your heads or whatever now.
And we see, I think in the next episode, it looks like they have a challenge in the rain
or something like that.
So I think shelter equipment is pretty important.
Yeah.
And plus, like, the fire, I mean, as far as warmth goes, obviously huge, but you can drink
the water without oiling it.
So I've, so I've heard.
So it's like, what does Kristen's crew really getting, you know, I mean, the fire at night
is, is clutch.
But again, I would be like, okay, I'm on a tribe of, you know,
Nine other people now.
Someone probably knows how to make a fire without Flint.
We see it almost every season.
So, you know, I think Kilby did a good job.
I think they both did a good job.
But Kilby, I almost feel like got like clowned on a little bit.
But at the end of the day, I was like, I thought he got the better out of the deal.
So, you know.
Yeah.
So what was, I remember them getting to the Thummy War.
What was that part for?
I think the fishing gear.
and again, yeah,
Kilby, you know,
presumably each of these bundles
is sort of considered to be equal.
There's four that the producers
probably think it's going to be two and two.
And so Kilby kind of defers to Kristen,
you know,
if you want the pot and the machete,
whatever,
I'll take the other two
and now we're sort of flipping
for the last thing.
So there's a world where
Kilby walks away with three of those things
and Chris only gets one.
Like to me,
that's better.
That's better.
And he was just like a good sport about it.
they both were.
That's what was more impressive.
Right.
Like, they walked away
with some type of like commonality.
But again, if I'm out there, I'm going,
we're fighting for the Flint because I think
Flint is more important because we've seen
although this is the open era,
we've seen in the new era,
they don't even really use the shelter.
They were sleeping on the boat.
They were sleeping on the beach, right?
Like, so that would just my take.
But like, I just loved that.
And I love these opportunities
that it's so chaotic, so much going on,
and there's so many opportunities for people to engage with each other,
which leads me to believe that, like,
we're definitely going to have tribe spots, right?
Where I just feel like there's so much cross-pollination that has happened.
It's almost inevitable, and that makes me excited.
Yeah, it's setting up for that.
I will say the last thing about that negotiation,
what I would amend about it from like a,
producer's standpoint is you have four items.
I thought it was three, but you sure is four?
I think so.
He picked one, she picked one, and then they like kind of figured out the third item.
I mean, I thought, I don't remember.
Yeah, maybe, I don't know if it was building supplies and like shelter materials were
separate or maybe that was one bundle.
But if it was, so yeah, I guess what I was going to say is, I think it's better to have
an odd number of things.
I thought it was four.
Because obviously, I think most of the time people are just going to, you get two, I get two.
I'd rather see them negotiate over it.
But maybe it was three things and that's why they decided to do the Thumb War.
Did they say who got the two orange life rafts?
I mean, Kilby was jumping in one of those.
Maybe he just kept it kind of around his waist.
Maybe Patty used the other one as pants or something.
But yeah, do we want to talk about any early dynamics or do we want to
get into the challenge.
Like, how do we want to go about it?
Where are you at with the Wendy Z?
Well, I was trying to get into the challenge, but then I was interrupted, so I'm
going to wait for y'all to take us into the challenge.
Well, you got, it's the open air.
You got to open up, baby boy.
Well, I'm not open.
I'm closed.
We know that's not true.
Yeah, Wendell, we had to talk about the negotiation.
before we, uh, yeah, we did.
But now it's time for the challenge.
Am I right?
Unless you want to talk about, I mean, this purple tribe, because obviously after the
challenge, we're not really going to see them again.
Did anything stand out to y'all?
And that would be Alexis, Anna, Kristen, Linnea, Sharonda, ori, Rob, Eric, Christian, and Carter.
I mean, I think the big story there is Eric's really standing out immediately.
And Eric's standing out and Rob is standing out.
The two, first of all, I'm the real Prince of Rhode Island.
Let Bruce tell you all that.
But it's interesting, like, the two Rhode Islands and where Eric is,
okay, I lie.
I didn't call one door earlier because I just, hey, I could, I had to talk to somebody, right?
I think it's so interesting, this Rob and Eric where, like, it's like,
who's fighting for the Prince of Rhode Island?
And yeah, Eric is coming off.
He's coming off a lot, right?
And a part of it is gameplay.
And a part of it is,
Wendell and I, we've met Eric.
He was our therapist.
How do you think Eric became our therapist?
Eric pulled up on us.
It was like, are you baby boys fighting?
Right?
Like a part of it is, I think that's Eric, right?
And what I was surprised about from Rob was,
I mean, he took their shirt off.
Okay, I see why you got them three kids now.
But I, the deviousness in Rob, right?
We haven't seen such a, you know,
and what turned me on for Rob was when he got the idol,
he was like, I'm not telling anybody this.
Thank you, Jesus.
Also, I love the fact he ain't have to do this, to do that,
to do this, to do that, to do this, to do that.
They said, all right, here y'all go.
Here's an idol.
I said, thank you, Jesus.
Now, the thing that I'm not liking about Rob is that, like, why are you coming for Eric so much, right?
I feel like he's really putting a target on Eric.
And I'm not mad.
Like, I think that you should paint a target.
But when Eric was out there for seven hours, doing whatever he was doing, and Rob thought the opportunity to, like, hang a target on his back, that's great.
But, like, he's in the water.
Like eventually, right, you know.
I was like, they're going to see him come out of the water with his flippers on.
And they didn't even need to because he caught a fish this big.
And he said, oh, me got a dog.
They said, oh, my God, what's happening?
Is he okay?
And this is where I knew I loved Eric.
Sir, do you see the size of that fish?
Okay.
when he got around those people,
he wasn't like,
I know it's not that big guys.
This man acted like he had a 30.
He said,
wait till Gina sees him.
I mean,
he's called himself Aquaman.
Bro,
he was in the middle of the water
holding it up.
I couldn't see the fish.
I was just like,
I'm sorry, Eric.
I think Gina might know the size
of the fish are ready.
I don't know.
but right
and so I do love this villainous
arc of Rob
but I'm nervous because first of all
I love my Rhode Island brothers
but I think Rob might
misread
the
undeniable
sure Eric's a little
but at the end of the day
Eric has a heart
and I think that like Rob
might overplay
how Eric might be able
he might be a lot, but at the end of the day,
people are, like, he is authentically himself,
and people will see that.
And so I think what they said, don't,
don't bake the lasagna before the meat is done.
Like, you know, like,
it's true.
You don't want raw meat in your lasagna.
Well, well.
But I hear you.
Yeah,
Eric's bringing a level of like,
it's a lot,
but it's earnest and it's enthusiastic.
And like,
it's got a heart and people appreciate it.
You know,
like the ladies were,
like,
impressed with how authentic he was,
when he was speaking about,
Cheetah!
And so,
yeah,
I was thought that the same thing with Rob.
It's like,
it's good to,
you know,
put a little suss on somebody.
but if you're being like he's running around the aisle,
he's definitely looking for something.
And then he comes in with his flippers and in the fish
and the goggles on it's like, okay, so.
And people were like, are you sure he's not just in the water?
And Rob was like, I don't know.
Who's the guy with the bowtie?
Is it Christian?
Yeah.
Christian was like, he was in the water the whole time.
He went to hang out with Lewis for like 10 hours.
but yeah that's what i think what do you think of the purple tribe windle you know what i i am a big
fan of orie and um like i i'm i'm a fan of these when we see these football players coming on
um and what why are you a fan of the football players i like their mentality i like their
their calmness under pressure.
Like, think of Danny McCray.
But how does that relate to you?
I'm saying I like, because I played football.
No, I'm just saying that I like, first of all, yes, I did play football,
but also I'm just saying that I like watching these players and their composure
and how they are with teams and how they are,
whether they're winning or losing that challenges.
I think that watching him, especially the speech he gave.
on the mat is, yo, I would love to be on a team with that person.
Somebody who, he's like a do your job kind of person.
He's like, you know, when you got to step up, you step up and you play your role when
you need to play a role.
I think those are great people.
I think these people that have played on a high level and I believe he played pro
ball.
I think they have a, they're securing themselves.
And these are the people that won't typically like get mad at somebody if they maybe
dropped the ball or something. No, they'd rather
encourage them. And I
think we saw on the other tribe
no shade to our
Brody Brady, but I think
Brady, his way of
motivating or encouraging people, is
a different way than how
an Ori might do it.
Okay.
How do you feel like
are you a more
ori motivational?
Or are you a more
Brody motivational?
I think it depends.
on the arena.
No, I'm more ori.
100%.
100%.
Have you ever played any sports with me, Bryce?
Yes, but also that's a lie.
But Jack, so did you know Wendell play
football at high school?
No, I didn't.
And he was the quarterback?
No, I was.
You said you were the quarterback.
No, I didn't.
I played a little QB back in my day.
And so
I have school records
But go on, Bryce.
What position do you play at Wungle?
I was a wide receiver.
Okay, I'm liking this open era.
Tell us, okay, I didn't get you as a wide receiver.
And I was to say, all right.
All right, Bryce.
So, Jack, I didn't notice about Window either.
And on our, Bryson went Patreon.
we were talking about this over the summer
and he called his mom and his mom confirmed it.
She showed us photos.
Jack, what high school
football team you know
at their homecoming game?
They got flag.
Each member of the team has a flag.
And the other team has a flag.
Isn't that flag football?
What are you doing?
Like a flag that they carry out?
No, they each had like a flag.
hanging out of their thing.
Oh, no, no.
Sometimes you just keep like a little cloth to try your hands off.
No, each team had a flag.
They was, they, I don't know if that's D1, D2 or is that like F1?
Like this, this man is talking.
He played for a flag football.
Get your joke off.
Get your joke off.
I got recedes, but get your joke.
I don't know what.
But all that said, no, I think Orie is awesome.
Like his speech was fantastic.
I agree with.
Time out, though, Jack.
Time out, Joe.
Don't give up.
Don't give up.
Don't give up.
I'm not giving up.
I have numerous clippings.
There's a little glare on your screen.
We're going to need that.
But go ahead, Jack.
Hold on you.
Wow.
It's crazy.
I don't think I've seen a paper from the 60s.
Oh.
Oh.
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So enough.
Okay.
Real ones know, okay?
Sure.
But I agree.
I also liked what Orr said.
I think it was one of his conversations,
I believe with Sharonda,
where he's like,
hey,
I'm kind of new to this.
You let me know what's up
and I'm down to rock with you.
Like, I think that's a very respectable.
Like, he's,
he's humble.
Like, yeah,
but he's also seems,
I forget the other moment of the episode,
but it also seemed like he kind of knew,
like he did know,
his stuff, you know? So I like that he's a lot of the bigger guys like a Brady will kind of
want to be the top dog and always like, let me lay back and chill and do my job and when the
opportunity is right, I'll seize the moment. And that takes a lot of spotlight off of him.
Yeah, exactly. If you're giving things to other people, giving the credit, like talking to Sharonda,
hey, you let me know. Hey, we're rocking. And she's like, yo, we can't, or whoever said it,
We can't talk a lot with each other.
Got it.
You know, like, if you're, of course, we got, we got Brady on the other side who is making a lot of, he's shaking things up.
You know, he's making moves off jump.
Or he's like, yo, I'm going to feel this out.
I'm going to do my job when I need to do my job.
And I'm going to put things on other people.
I like that.
First of all, like you said, regarding sports, he has a team mentality.
And so I like to joke a lot with Wendy Z.
But like you absolutely, you always have a team mentality.
And so like I love that with ORI.
I wish on Winners at War the conversation Chavonda had with Ory like,
hey, we're not going to talk too much.
But we know what's up.
I wish you and Jeremy would have had that conversation.
But the thing that I also liked about Ory was like,
and we know in this country, right, like two years ago,
black women got it right.
We don't put enough respect on black women's name.
And so for Orie to come in there and be like, what you think is, sis, right?
Like letting him know, like, because sometimes like, you know, sometimes we don't see that.
And especially sometimes with our black men.
And so for him to just already go in there, like, and he didn't say this, but for someone like me,
and I would assume someone like you, Wendell, who has a black mother, who has a black sister,
who had like, you know what I mean?
Like, for him to just, like, him saying that,
bitch, the britches was in shambles, okay?
Like, we, like, enough, enough.
And also for Sharonda to know enough, like, we can't cut up.
And when Sharonda said, I think we need to obtain other number ones,
I said, oh, the black Americans aren't playing this season.
I like I said okay
And so I just
There's just so many like little things
And so I enjoy
Yeah you did great
You did great especially yeah like that speech on the mat
Just tying into Jeff
Jeff like dumping all this info on them too right at the challenge
One of the big one is the coin flip also back
What do you guys feel about that?
I think it's great.
Well, I think it's great and it's dangerous.
And whatever the mechanic is, like, however, someone will have to flip that coin.
If no one volunteers or something, someone's going to have to do it, right?
So, and that's a very dangerous coin flip.
You could just be, you might be walking out of tribal.
We're going to see people walking out of tribal because of this coin flip.
Yeah.
And so maybe it's like, I feel like.
And tell me you, someone has to flip it at a tribal.
Yeah, I don't know the specifics of it yet, but.
So the way I see it is if somebody, you know you going home, right?
Like, I feel like that should be your shot in the dark.
Instead of playing a shot in the dark, you should flip it.
You go home, listen, I was going home already.
But if not, you've increased the pot and that might give you some agency in the game.
And so, but.
Yeah, I'm curious what the mechanic is going to be like,
you would have to think to make sure it gets flipped.
Maybe they just make it an option after the merge where any tribal,
if you want to be the one to do it, you can do it.
Because what if they only have it at one and no one wants to do it?
You know what I mean?
Like it was lucky last season that Devons, I mean, I guess last season they had the mechanism
of like, if no one wants to, then you'll, like, we'll draw or whatever.
But I feel like that's not a great mechanic because that's,
that's just so random that you would want to be someone like,
I'm taking the initiative, I'm going to flip it and try to win my safety.
So I hope that I wouldn't be mad if at the merge are like,
this is on the table now and anytime someone wants to grab it, go for it.
And I also like that if it misses, it rolls over the next season.
Because we might get to a point where the prize money is like $4 million,
you know what I mean, which would be insane.
Right. And I love the mechanic of it because we don't know yet.
But like, again, if I'm on the chopping block,
I might use that to say,
I'm flipping the dice,
to kind of almost foreshall
to then have to break up whatever y'all doing
in a way that I could maybe even maneuver.
So I'm really excited about that.
But I don't even care about that as much as I care about the fire making.
Like, so was that decided that they will have firemaking?
And my, my, my, how time, like,
I love how Survivor evolves.
I don't know if y'all remember
when firemaking first started happening
and people hated it.
And now I think when we got the option
of if everybody can commit
to not
doing fire, we'll do a vote.
And I don't know who said it, but someone in the back was like
can't win Survivor unless you go through the fire.
Brady said it.
Brady, right.
Like they look at it as a
badge of honor now.
I got to say
though, like
to me
A, Jeff was a little on his
high horse with that
of first and foremost, like
you're like, we'll get rid of fire
but it has to be unanimous. I'm like,
it could just be a majority vote
because if you know, you know
it's not going to be gone if it has to be
unanimous. Yes. And so
the smart thing to do is kind of
vote whatever the majority votes.
You know what I mean?
Like I wouldn't want to be outspoken about the fire
because of that,
like for that reason,
because someone like Braves can be like,
no,
we're doing fire.
It doesn't matter.
Like that it's,
it's never going to change if it has to be unanimous.
It should be majority.
And then Jeff's like,
oh,
do you want to,
it's to me not to be critical,
but it sort of show,
and again,
I'm optimistic about this season,
but this kind of encompassed a lot of the issues,
I think,
the audience have with the way that Jeff views the game of Jeff.
It was then like, oh, do you guys want to get rid of idols?
Do you want to get rid of advantages?
XYZ?
Not that many people raise their hand.
Again, partly because you're in front of Jeff who you know likes those things.
So you're not going to be honest.
But then Jeff is like, see, if you guys could just tell the viewers at home that you love all these twists and stuff.
But it's like, Jeff, no one's like there should be no idols.
Very few people are like, there should be no idols.
It's more about like the implementation of things.
So when you propose it to these people who again know that you like these twists and it's like day two and they're not going to be honest,
if you just propose it's like, should we get rid of advantages altogether?
Like not many people, obviously not many people are going to be like, yeah, yeah, Jeff, those are all terrible, you know?
If there was more nuance to the conversation of like, should we maybe dial back the advantages?
I think a lot of people would be like, yeah, like go back to.
to like, you know, the, the era of the 20s and the 30s
where they weren't as rampant.
So I, you know, I love Jeff to death,
but it's one of those things where it's just sort of like
an argumentative fallacy where you propose this thing of like,
so because you guys don't want to get rid of idols all together,
we must be doing everything right.
It's like, no, you're completely getting rid of any gray area
with the conversation.
So it's, I don't know.
Like, I think a lot of fans share the sentiment of like,
multiple times he's been cited basically being like,
if you're a fan and you give us feedback,
just know that we're not listening to you.
It's like,
why not?
Like the traders,
you know,
I'm a little biased,
but the traders has made a lot of like changes to the game dynamics
that are in line with like,
what viewers have spoken out about being in favor of.
Like if your audience in general likes something,
there's no shame in obliging that.
Like episode one,
for example, the traders announced before the episode that there would be less emphasis on the
challenge and more emphasis on the roundtables and the breakfasts and breakfast and stuff.
And that's what a lot of the fans have wanted.
They're like, the challenges aren't as fun.
We want to see more conversation.
And so the traders literally implemented that.
And we're like, hey, we're doing this.
Like, Survivor can do the same thing.
And again, I'm optimistic about this season.
I think it's off to a good start.
But it was, A, annoying to be like, we'll change it if you guys want.
but it has to be unanimous.
Nothing's ever unanimous, like, unless you're on a jury, I guess, not a jury on survivor,
but like an actual jury.
And then, yeah, to then use people not speaking up about, and it wasn't even an open dialogue.
It was like, put your hand up if you hate idols.
It's like, no one's going to do that.
No one's going to do that.
So, I don't know.
That was ridiculous.
Like, I honestly thought, like, I don't know what Jeff is trying to prove with that,
because it's clearly not like a,
any way to go about
a deliberation or a debate
over anything.
So, you know,
it's like,
I feel like he's spoken about this
in the,
with past things about,
you know,
for example,
the removal of,
like,
taking guys out of the come on in guys.
He said himself,
he's like,
I made it a moment about me
when it didn't have to be a moment at all.
And to me,
this sort of feels like,
you're bringing this all up
to like give yourselves a pat in the back
about things that people are on,
happy with, but that's not going to change
the fan sentiment. Like, viewers
at home aren't going to be like,
fuck it. I guess they like it. So
I guess I'm wrong. You know what I mean?
So anyways, that's kind of a
rant about that, which
I don't know. I'm glad to
hear that because I wanted to know
because I also felt like
it kind of was like rush, right? And then
like, was that the official vote?
Yeah. Yeah.
No one got to talk to. It didn't seem like
anyone got to talk to each other.
Yeah.
but it's like unanimous is crazy like all 20 of them have to agree also poor lewis you know doesn't even
don't even get included i actually louis is like i actually like when they voted that the 40
he's out there sit by himself
yeah i agree
actually i didn't think about that but the fact that lewis had absolutely no say it is hilarious
And they say unanimous, right?
And everyone would have voted.
And then at the end, when we would have still had fire, make it,
Jeff would have been like, well, Lewis wasn't they.
Well, Jeff was like, well, Lewis is Irish, so he doesn't get to vote.
But this challenge, I thought this was a relatively new challenge,
kind of like the same things that we have seen,
but a relatively new challenge that I enjoy.
What do y'all think?
Yeah, it was fun.
I like the component of like stacking things up
and then at the end pushing the bag off the top,
which proved to be a challenge.
I don't like mechanically I was kind of,
like I thought Linnea was doing a pretty good job.
And so I was surprised it wasn't budging.
But then Pat came in and,
slayed it and then Linnea literally
put her head into the two which I was like
good you know good move to make it happen
and then you see people like
it's gritty and they're pushing the boxes
through the maze
I was worried for Brady for a second because it
looked like a box like fell on his Achilles
which easily could
have you know you make you get you
cooked and then obviously he's just
pushing it through by himself it's like okay it seems like he's
all right and then the puzzle at the end I thought it was
fun but
I don't know what did you guys say?
I liked how they all kind of bottlenecked at the beginning and they're like pushing each other and trying to get through things.
I did like that a lot.
I love these big, huge early team challenges that require a lot of effort.
It requires everybody.
You get bruised up like crazy at these.
The things that they have are extremely heavy and should require multiple people to move things except if you're a freak of nature like Brady.
And I think that again, in this kind of a challenge, you see people and you see how they move in groups and stuff.
And one thing that stood out to me that it was so small, but it really stood out to me.
We do see how Brady encourages folks.
Brady's like very encouraging in his own way.
And there was a point when I think, like, Alia was untying and dropping balls.
And he said something like, and she lost the ball.
And I think Devin was like holding someone up at that time.
And he looked at him.
Devin said this.
He looked at him and he said, speak life, brother.
And it's like, and I was like, I had to rewind that.
I'm like, at that moment, like, yeah, you could be, you know, knocking someone.
Or you can find a way to encourage someone.
And I like that that Devin stepped up and said that to his man right then and there.
Yo, speak life, brother.
And it's three words.
But I'm like, man, like, I want to use that quote, you know?
So that was one thing that, like, really stood out to me.
Obviously, like, yeah, yeah, that was one thing that I really like.
Yeah.
And speaking of Devin.
Go ahead, Bryce.
The lasagna done.
I'm working on my pot of goulash and baby.
Devin, Devin, Devin, Devin.
And I, I feel like Bryce Isaiah crawled so that a Tevin could run so that a Devin could fly.
Because let's just be clear.
Devin is an ancestor of Bryce Isaiah.
when he and Brody got together
and Brady and Dev,
Tevin said, oh, I like him strong and dumb.
I say, hey, my God today,
come get your Lazia.
Right?
Like, I love a debt.
Like, my,
the critique that I have of Devin
thus far in the season is,
baby,
stop showing us you are so great,
King, you are like, I mean, I see Caleb all over.
And it's like the thing with Devin is, is that some people just have it, right?
Like, they just have it.
And Devin has it.
He understands that it's a social game and that we need to be social.
But like, you know, and Eric understands that this is a social game too.
But how Eric goes about his social skills are a little,
Gina
little different
I still like it
Eric will have me
but the way
Devin goes about
the way that he has
Jelly and Aaliyah
the way that he
understands that
Jenna might not be
a wedding photographer
and the way that he'll disseminate
it the way that he got
Brody locked in
the way that he's a pillar
and I even think
Pat is clocking it
like
or no not Pat
what's
the med student name, my girl.
TN. On.
I said it one more time.
I think it's TN, TN or TN on.
TN or TNN or something.
My girl TNN.
She's clocking it.
But, like, Devin is absolutely fantastic.
Some people are so
magnetic or so, I use that word.
too much. Some people are
shi-garious.
What's that?
Like gregarious.
Yes.
Yeah.
That like they can't even diminish it.
And this might be, this might be his problem.
Like Caleb, we saw Caleb.
It was just too much like, yo, they have to get you off that island when they could
get you off that island.
And Devin's case is like, bro, you are shining so bright.
My goodness, like tone it down.
You are too, too good, too early right now.
And he's connected on the other side.
He's connected here.
And so it is,
it's Devon for me.
And so we see that they lose.
And it's very interesting to me because I'm like,
okay,
now I watched it a couple of times.
And I didn't really see,
like I had to rewind to see Aaliyah kind of fumbling.
But the thing that I like the most was when we got back,
Brady immediately,
even though Brady wasn't on the chopping block,
Brady immediately kind of like,
I think on Survivor,
we've been used to people cut from a certain claw.
And this is really my perspective, right?
Like, I think Brady understands that
because I think Brady came back and was like,
hey, y'all, I just want you all to know,
this is me!
And sometimes that's important to know
because I think sometimes people get defensive
and they don't like without giving an explanation.
Now Brody let us know.
He's that, this is me.
Okay.
We can choose to like it.
We can choose not to like it,
but you have given us an explanation.
And so like I appreciated that
because that is interesting for me to store.
Now, I don't want to go where I need to go.
And y'all can tell me, don't go there,
but tell me if I should go.
Like, so now listen.
I love Jelly and I love Alia.
And so my and I almost feel like because there was this coalition that normally we do not see this early, I almost feel Jelly and Alia got a tad bit too comfortable for the right reason.
So we get back.
Everybody already don't think Jenna take photos.
Okay.
Jenna name is already, and that's another thing.
And I don't want to talk too much because I'm trying not talk too much.
But like, the new era has fucked us up so much.
Your MFs be lying that this girl is a wedding photographer.
Okay.
And y'all don't even believe her.
That's one.
So I'm going to cut you all out later about that.
But we already got Jenna name floating around.
And we see the girls, Pat, Jenna, Alia,
and Jelly meet up to talk.
And we see Jelly with a confessional like,
yes, Jenna's name is floating around,
but I don't want a girl to go home.
And I'm with your sister, okay?
Because too far often it's either a gay or a layday,
okay, that go home first.
And so I like this.
But I also feel like if it don't fit,
you got to quit.
Listen, if the target ain't your alliance, it ain't you,
everyone seems to be on the same page.
Mama, let the lasagna cook.
And so when Jelly and Alia are talking to the women,
they say Jenna's name or maybe Jenna.
There's another woman.
Who's another woman?
Tiana.
Tienna.
Yes.
And so they let them.
know they're like but
I mean
Brody was a bit assertive right
and they're like well yeah and then that was another
thing now I love Jelly and Alia
but y'all also it's almost like a tag team
a little bit where like Alia said it or
Jelly said it then Alia jumped on it
and they was like oh and then we see the second that they
leave the other ladies are like
well
they would have to make
maybe notice like, well, they seem to be on one accord.
And you know, in Survivor, it's a numbers game.
And so, like, well, if they're on one accord, then maybe let us get on one accord.
And so I feel like they almost set themselves up.
It didn't have to be my girl, Alia.
Now, also, my girl, I think it was, is it Pat that went to Jenna to tell Jenna,
hey, baby girl, there's a lot going on.
and they don't think
they don't think you really a wedding photographer.
Also, shout out to Jenna
because what I always say on Survivor,
when people are on the outs,
instead of keeping them on the outs,
bitch, bring them in.
And so her kind of like seeing
maybe Jelly and Alia are linked up,
let me extend the olive branch
to old Jenna.
So I clock Pat.
I said, okay, Pat's not playing.
Now, let me just talk about my girl Jenna real quick.
I didn't know what to make of Jenna.
Jenna had a lot going on.
She didn't really disclose what was happening.
But when she did disclose what was happening,
and she said, hey, I recently got divorced.
I haven't been single since I've been 18.
It's a lot.
Baby, first of all, I'm getting ready to cry.
Immediately I connect with her.
And then she's like, y'all bitches is playing on my name.
I shoot in 4K.
I shoot in 5K.
I shoot in wide lens.
I said, you better run that off.
But the thing that impressed me the most about Jenna was after she gave us the situation.
Sometimes you got to release it.
And she said, oh, my name's on the block.
Let me introduce you to single Jenna because single Jenna said, bitch, it won't be me.
And she clocked in.
And the way that she clocked in, she could potentially win.
I know that I just, but so much happened there.
So, so much, but sometimes I also feel like a survivor.
You need to hear that your name is floating around.
Too many times people get comfortable well into the game that they hear their name is floating around and they don't even know what to do about it.
I like a queen that can fight from the beginning.
Jenna said, oh, I was acting a little weird and awkward.
She said, click, click, clocked it.
That's how you play Survivor.
y'all don't be quiet now because listen
I could continue the one
I'm still worried for Jenna
like she doesn't
obviously sometimes it takes time to warm up
and she's dealing with a lot of stuff
and like maybe that'll you know gradually come out
and that's not something you could
necessarily want to share with the whole circle of people right away
but she is given a closed-offness to people
like you know there's something wrong
you know you're given not the best energy
when people think you're lying about the job
that actually is your job
you know what I mean?
So, and not to say that's Jenna's fault,
but like the perception is the reality.
I was surprised she made it through this,
but like you said, Bryce,
maybe now that she's kind of been battle tested a little bit,
she could lock in.
And really, I think a lot of the credit here goes to Pat
and I felt like she was maneuvering really well here.
You know,
it's a bigger trial.
So I'm sure there's a lot going on behind the scenes,
but we see Pat do a lot of the kind of the spearheading of maybe keeping Jenna.
And, you know, if they're on the same side,
Pat could be a really valuable ally.
And then you also have these bigger personalities like a Devin, like a Brady,
who maybe aren't going to be the first one voted out because they're assets in the challenge,
but they're going to continue to maybe rub people a certain way.
And I can see, it's a big tribe.
I can see Jenna sneaking by, but she does have to integrate a little bit.
bit better here.
I mean, it's not great seeing your name written down.
So like that could be.
And you got Devin who was going hard against her in tribal council.
And Devin is in with Brady, so it seems.
I question, it's so early, but I'm also questioning that because Devin's like, yeah,
we can, you know, vote differently, but I know tomorrow we're going to be good.
and then they cut to Brady,
and I don't know how locked in Brady is with that,
with this guy pushing so hard back on him.
Devon's cool with it.
Yeah, best man winning.
Tomorrow we're going to be good.
I don't know how cool Brady is with that.
But hypothetically, if Brady is cool with that,
then maybe a next person might be a genna.
That might happen.
Or, Devin, you went too hard, and now there is a real rift.
I don't know.
I just know.
what he was saying.
And like, yeah, he could want that.
Hey, man, we're working together, but like, yo,
we're not together on this, but we'll be together.
I don't know how Brady's receiving that.
I truly don't.
I don't know if he gives him a pass for being so,
for having such a hardline stance this whole afternoon through tribal.
Yes.
Such a good point, right?
Where it's like now because this conversation that Jellie and,
Alia had, right?
Now other things are circulating
and it puts Devin in this position
where Devin is like,
I'm trying to have my cake and eat it too.
And yeah, like,
and I think even like Christian brings it up
that like Christian clocks that like,
well, Christians are the other tribe, I think.
Sorry.
Killby, maybe.
Killby clocks that like, well,
Brady wants this.
Devin wants this.
And now it's like, now you have Devin
fighting and like again
I get it
but I also feel like
Mitch is the first day of school
yeah no Devin went way too hard
way too hard and like Bryce
like you said if we're now
seeing something with
Aaliyah something with jelly
now you have Devin
willing to take
the hardest like he's not
being he is not budging
and he's being very loud in front of
everyone with, not loud, it's very vocal in front of everyone with the fact that he's not
budging.
All right.
It doesn't take much to clock what's going on there.
And the people that aren't in the cookout per se might, might receive that the wrong way
and say, you know what, we're going to bust this thing up.
But yeah, no, that's a great point.
And then I think even to like, as presented it almost seems like more of Devin's vocalness,
was because of his mistrust in Jenna,
not necessarily his allegiance to an alia,
but still it's like,
Devin is like kind of a Caleb vibe where you are charismatic.
He's coming out playing hard,
immediately making bonds with people playing strategically,
which is already a target,
but then to have all those assets about you
and then also be the type out of tribal to be like,
I'm voting this person.
That's the way I'm doing things.
I'm like,
he's kind of trying to play.
play like a triple threat great player,
but then at this tribal,
he's coming and he's just blowing his own spot up.
So to me,
it puts Devin in a lot of danger.
The thing that I will say to that is,
so sad Alia went home,
but thank God she did.
Because imagine if Jenna went home,
then Devin putting up this front
and having the backup to prove it,
it almost would put him in even more.
dangerous position. And so I almost
look at Devin, like how I'm looking
at Jenna, where it's like,
okay, it's time for Jenna to clock in,
but now it's time for Devin
to clock it, where it's like,
uh, but like,
it didn't work. It didn't work.
Right. And you're still on the island.
This is a wake up call. Okay.
But, and I love it so much because it's like,
there's only the first episode, y'all.
Like, and it's like, and I love it.
And so I don't want it to
be Ms.
construed as to what we're saying.
It's like,
no, I understand
what you're fighting for
and I love it.
And it's only the first episode.
My golly, today,
what's going to happen
four episodes in?
So I,
I'm excited to see where this goes.
But I also,
y'all,
we got,
we got to take it here
for a second,
baby.
So Ms.
Jenna clocked in.
Jenna went to Brady and said,
Brady,
ain't none of my business.
But let me tell you this.
They saying you, you over here being aggressive.
They say you over here being loud.
Like, and Brady's like, that's not me.
Oh, my God.
Why would they say that?
Baby.
Brady went around there.
Jack, can you believe they are telling me that I'm hype?
I'm chilling.
What is you thinking?
And you, Devon, death.
They saying I'm too much.
Brody.
Can you believe it?
And then I think we got the greatest line from Brody himself.
Brody said, this is just me.
And so I just want to prepare real quick, okay,
because Brody said they might not like it.
Sorry, y'all, hold on.
Brody said they might not like it, but it's me.
Brody said, and I quote,
if my mom came to football practice, I lay her ass out too.
Brody!
He's not flyers.
7-3-Hut.
7-3-Hud!
One, two, three.
Brody!
He's not laying you out.
I'm at football practice.
Brody, it's me, your mom.
Brody
7-3 high
I thought this fool is going to bring out a football helmet
Bryce
Bryce might be injured right now
Bryce might have injured himself right now
But Jenna did
You know Brady was the right person to go to as a Jenna
Where usually it's like
Okay the person on the bottom is telling me
People are like talking a little shit, like, take it with a grain of salt.
With Brady, it's like, you tell him he's like, he's off to the races.
And even Kilby was like, Kilby did a good job of man.
I thought he was going to be a little more like neurotic and panicky,
but he was pretty cool, common collected, kind of working between, we're kind of brokering
the Brady and Devin conversation.
You're like, Brady, how much does this specific one mean to you?
And Brady's like, it's everything, bro.
sounded like Jake Paul out here, but, um,
what's so crazy about that is him saying is everything.
Keep in my, it's 42 hours.
Yes.
And Lou is still.
He had to even enter the game.
Yeah.
It's like, okay, next vote, people are going to be like, Brady, like, what's this
vote?
He's like, this is even everything more.
like everybody.
Kobe's going to be like Brady,
we need a new like scale
to define how set you are on things.
But again,
if I'm Devin
and I'm seeing how he reacts,
this is a,
you know, like, again,
like I feel like
in this is the open era,
not the new era,
but the tribe day,
gets decimated the most.
Sometimes, yeah, they get picked off,
but the people that are left
are the most qualified moving forward.
And so it's like,
this is such an eye-opening learning lesson
for this tribe if they could take it all in.
Because they've learned a lot.
And also for individuals on the tribe,
like, I go back to Devin with this one.
Like, if you, if you like take one on the chin
and are still,
in the game the next day or whatever.
Like, I remember
when on Ghost Island,
they had a chance to get either me,
Dom, or Morgan
out, and they picked off Morgan.
And then me and Dom
were at the end of the game together.
We learned so much on like
the third vote out.
That's like, yo,
it's good when something doesn't
necessarily go your way
early on.
That's like survivor school.
real quick.
Yeah.
And you're still in the game the next day.
So like, Devin, look, all right, you took that hard line stance.
It ain't worked.
Let's adjust this thing.
Let's figure this thing out now.
Yeah.
No, I agree.
Definitely can go one of two ways from here for Devin.
And I hope he takes it as a learning experience to be like, all right, he's obviously
a charismatic guy.
Let me just dial it back a little bit, not go too crazy.
People are going to like him and he'll be all right.
And he's an asset in the challenge.
You could just kind of be chill.
But it's a good point.
one's all of like to have something not go your way and still be in the game even from like a
behavioral analysis standpoint is like all right now I know what people kind of are like when they're
telling me they're going to vote away and they don't do that you know whereas if your first experience
with that is you getting blindsided obviously you're out it so it doesn't and if like you know
maybe everyone's been shooting straight with you to that point and then you don't sense the change
but to know like hey this person was lying to me.
me this is kind of how they're acting when they're lying and when they're telling the truth,
that can be a valuable barometer going forward.
So it's a good point.
And they get Lewis, right?
Like they, like they lose something.
It's like, it's almost like this was episode zero.
Yeah.
And I think Lewis will slot into this tribe.
I mean, this tribe is kind of a mess.
And so Lewis, who's like a pretty laid back, chill, fun guy, I think he'll be able to come in and like, be good.
Yeah.
So sad to see my girl, Alia, go.
You know, like she was good.
She had, like, so, oh, it was just super sad to see her go.
But, it's the open era.
Yeah.
And that was a great episode, man.
Oh, man.
Cast is great.
Yeah.
This open era concept is really cool.
Who knows.
what they're going to bring back.
I'm excited.
Yeah, it's a good start to the season
and excited for next week.
I can't wait.
I am putting my lasagna in the oven now.
The baby boys are
officially back. We back.
Season 51,
Bryce and when, we are on tour.
We'll see you in Atlanta,
Chicago, D.C.,
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Tickets are available.
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So great to be back.
We're excited.
We'll see you next week.
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