RHAP: We Know Survivor - Purple Pants Podcast | Survivor News 50 Ep 10 Recap: If it doesn’t sound like dipping In me ft Brandon Donlon

Episode Date: May 1, 2026

Purple Pants Podcast | Survivor News 50 Ep 10 Recap: If it doesn’t sound like dipping In me ft Brandon Donlon The baby boys Wendell, Jack, and Brice are back this week with special guest Brandon Donlon from Survivor 45, breaking down Survivor Season 50 Episode 10. A chaotic auction forces the castaways into a unanimous decision for letters from home that unleashes the MrBeast Beware Mega Idol twist, putting everything on the line with a risky coin flip that could mean power or elimination. With advantages in play and alliances cracking, Devens goes full beast mode at Tribal, exposing plans and shifting the target in real time before one player is ultimately sent home. Wendell, Jack, Brice, and Brandon dive into the madness, who gained power, and how this wild twist could reshape the rest of the game. Tickets and updates for Brice and Wen 50 events:https://briceandwenpresent.flite.city/ You can also watch along on Brice Izyah’s YouTube channel to watch us break it all down https://youtube.com/channel/UCFlglGPPamVHaNAb0tL_s7g LISTEN: Subscribe to the Purple Pants podcast feed  WATCH: Watch and subscribe to the podcast on YouTube SUPPORT: Become a RHAP Patron for bonus content, access to Facebook and Discord groups plus more great perks! Previously on the Purple Pants Podcast Feed: Purple Pants Podcast Archives

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are joined by Survivor 45's own Brandon Donlin, and we are getting into episode 10 of Survivor 50. We are talking the auction. We're talking, Mr. Beats. You know I say Beets, but really is Mr. Beats with Jimmy. Because they were saying Jimmy, I was saying, oh, who is Jimmy? So much to get into with this amazing, beware idol,

the live tribal council, Rick Devons. Okay, this was a lot going on. And I'm so happy to have Wendell Jack and Brandon to help us break it down. And in true Survivor News, you know we get crazy and a little bit of messy. So listen, let's get in to this week's Survivor News. What's going on.

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The Baby Boys in Blue are back with your Survivor News covering Survivor Season 50, Episode 10, your favorite Survivor's favorite Survivor's podcast. Of course you know the baby boy, you might know him from the floor is lava. Mr. Jack Hack is

Covering. What's up, Jack? I love it. I'm good. I love that. That's become your go-to. My brief stint on the floor is lava with one of the all-time worst performances, although I guess I could be said about maybe any show I've done. So very excited to be here and very excited. I mean, what an episode and what a guest we have today

to break it all down. Yes, I am honored and privileged. to have this distinguished guest from Survivor Season 45. I tell this story often, but I am a Temple University alum Jack. And for my longest time, go out. Okay, go aisles. But the longest time, I kept saying,

Temple does not recognize me. You know, I was on Survivor, I do all of this stuff. I kept saying it. And then all of a sudden I got an email, they said, Bryce, we want to write an article about our distinguished alum. And that wouldn't have happened without this man.

You might know him from Survivor Season 45. Mr. Brandon Donnellan, welcome back to the, well, welcome. This is your first time on the podcast. Welcome to the podcast, Brandon. I heard we were talking on worst all-time performances. So, you're poise here. I brought snacks. I'm so thrilled to be here.

This is so much fun. And I'm thrilled to, I've had like two jobs that I've worked out for more than a year. And they've been in Temple University and my current job at Rob is a podcast. I'm thrilled that we milled both of those right now. We love it. Listen, the star of the star himself, the funniest man ever. Brandon and I, Ashley Jack, two weeks ago, we had the opportunity to go to Drexel University to watch the battle of

acapella performances that was survivor-based theme. And I had the opportunity to sit next to Brandon, and we had a time. It was survivor-themed Acapella? there it was there was this young man who's a senior i believe his name is jason um and he is a musical major and he is in the drexel a cappello group which is even a smaller connection when i was in college working part-time at a shoe store i used to fit this young lad uh his shoes and when i got off of the island we did a little meet and greet uh at the shoe store and brandon and his Brandon. Jason and his mom

I think his name is Jordan. Jordan. Listen. It started with a J-saw. I was close. Jordan. And yes, it was, you know, full circle seeing Jordan, so it was so much fun. But just, you know, being there with Brandon

and listening to the amazing it, poca, it was a lot of that. Okay. They was killing it, though, Jack. we were killing it. Bryce and I at any moment it could have been just a two

extra seconds of silence. It could have been anything. We were just, we were having a ball. We were nudging each other. We were really liking it. At one point somebody kind of did a little, a little they didn't trip over the microphone cord, but they did a little extra walk.

And Bryce, it was it was like Brasen Robin Sandra in that little booth they had that one season. We were really taking it in it. We were loving. Wow. And it was a survivor theme, but there was a lot of just beatboxing going on is that? It was like a Chris Noble star Toomey Sam Phelan type of

something like that. It was like all of the universities and schools in the area, their Acapello groups, it was like a spring concert and Jordan had the opportunity to host it and it seemed like this was like his senior project and so he loves Survivor. So he made it survivor themed so the stage was kind of like

tribal council all of the people they were like their tribe color so it was really really great and on time I mean and true James Jones fashion he didn't get there on time but all of a sudden me and me and Brandon start smelling smoke

I'm like somebody smoking and all of it's like James just appears behind us and the second we acknowledge him Brandon was still is so uncomfortable Jack because Brandon, I don't know how often he interacts with James Jones, but

James Jones has a very distinct voice and James Jones was excited to see us. So in the middle of the James Jones is having a full out conversation, full voice with Brandon and Brandon was doing

every nonverbal signal to James Jones to let James know Brandon was uncomfortable and like, we need to watch the show. Like, at one point, Brandon just turned around. And James was still talking. I can't stress enough to you, Jack Higgins. It's the middle of a performance.

It's a minute and a half into a three minute of performance. We've just hit the middle. And you can talk a little bit in the beginning because it's like, oh, I didn't know they started. Or if you're like 30 minutes from the end or 30 seconds from the end, it's like, we're winding down. It's the middle of performance. And we hear James Jones is like, hey!

Here's the thing about James Jones. He'll talk some Survivor in any setting. So you might be at the Acapulah. He comes and sits down and says, he's like, you just got to get to the end with a story. He's like, you got to tag Jeff. Jeff needs to see this. And I'm like, James, shut up. Like, it's in the middle of these kids.

But nevertheless, and then just like that, Jack, and then James Jones came in, Brandon and I turned back around. He was a ghost in the middle of there. He was gone. So, listen, we got to catch JJ when we see him just like Wendell and I. We are on the road to 50 last night. We were in Washington, D.C., and the time was had. Ozzy was in Pittsburgh, shutting it down. We are on to the final three stops of

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And make sure you follow and get these tickets because we are wrapping this season up. And this season, they said it was in the hands of the fans. I don't know if it was the Jimmy Fallon fans. if it was the Jeff Basso fans, I don't really know. But I feel like last night, it was in the fingertips of the Survivor fans because we got some good action.

Okay, I mean, dare I say, this was the best twist. We have had this season. What do you think, Jack? I think out of the celebrity twist, this was the best twist. I think And this is I think it was a great episode

And I think it all worked out Really really nice I think there was an opportunity Where if that Coin didn't flip the right way It could have been a pretty bad episode Maybe that was a Maybe that helps us as the fans

Kind of ride on board with the With the coin flip And really get us in the action Because it's like this episode's either going to kind of suck Or it's going to be be a banger. Fortunately, it was a banger, but I do feel like there is some discussion that needs to be had about

all sides of the twist. But I am very excited about the episode. I'm excited about we got the auction and we got some other really fun moments. So it was chock full of great moments. And I didn't realize going in right until the episode started. I didn't know it was going to be a two hour episode.

And I was very excited about that. I love, you get that surprise, extra half an hour. But yeah, I'm very curious to hear both of y'all's thoughts. I want to know what the game plan was. You tell these 10 people, like, there's going to be an extra million dollars, potentially, if this coin flip works out. And then it works out.

But if it doesn't work out, is there another plan, like in the episode after to get another? Because it's weird to dangle the million dollars and then not have it come to fruition. So I was more, and nobody loves Rick Devin's more than me. Rick Devin is the best person. I love Rick Devin's. And I was rooting for it to happen. But I was kind of curious. Like,

oh, yeah. What happens if it doesn't work out? I would go, I have a crazy theory. I think the coin was like, I think they, I think it had to work out.

I just think the whole twist is cooked. The Mr. Beast collaboration kind of goes out the window a little bit if it just like doesn't work. I totally agree you dangle the extra million and then it doesn't happen. It just be kind of like, oh okay that was no point in that

and I'm glad Rick who I think now has submitted himself as one of the most entertaining survivor players ever I mean he brings it especially at tribal council multiple times this season also an edge of extinction

just so glad he's stepped up to do this too because there's also a world where nobody steps up and like Surrey draws the bad rock and that's the point and she like goes home and we would all be like this is the worst thing ever. So, you know, in retrospect, it worked out great,

but I think there's a lot of worlds where this goes very bad. And I think it's worth pointing that out because I don't want Survivor to get too, I don't want their get too big for their britches, as they say, and think like we got to keep bringing back Mr. Beasts that people are loving this. What I will say, though, about Mr. Beetz, though, because again, when I learned it was a two-hour episode, I had Zach Brown flashbacks. I said, oh, Lord Jesus, I don't need to see Mr. Beetz climbing a tree and open up a coconut. And I like the fact that every, like, I feel like Mr. Beath says seven words. Okay.

Yeah. I feel like they definitely edited down his conversation because he's like, wow, guys, you're really excited to see me. And I loved it. So I'll say I, a couple weeks ago, I listened to Rob Cessernino's interview with Mr. Beast. And it actually gave me a lot of appreciation for, I was very pleasantly surprised with what Mr. Beast was bringing to the table. Jimmy has that, Chicago.

You know, after last night, we're good friends now. That threw me off. Because I'm like, is Jimmy falling here too? Why does he keep saying Jimmy? There's a lot of Jimmy's. Jimmy Johnson and Jimmy T are going to be here next episode. But I thought that on the podcast with Rob, I really actually liked his perspective on, like, reality TV

and what he was doing with Beast games and his thoughts on Survivor. And I don't always think he's like the best host per se, but when he builds this multi-million billion dollar YouTube channel, like naturally he's going to fall into that role in some ways. But I thought like as a producer, that Mr. Beast had the right perspective. And so to see that this episode where, and I don't know if it was like a retroactive re-edit

after the Zach Brown backlash or whatever, but felt like we got the right amount of Mr. Beast. The twist was pretty good. And I saw Mr. Beast tweeted after basically saying like, you know, this isn't about me. This is about adding a twist that's going to make Survivor really, essentially saying like, this is going to make Survivor really exciting. I don't need the screen time, whatever.

So I feel like Mr. Beast was just a great, partner in that, or I should say, does, I said Jimmy. What I did love is they really limited his talking. He was in lots of emotes, though. A lot of which I thought was pretty funny.

It was interesting to hear you to say that. He tweeted about it because I, you know, we're 10 episodes into the episode. Does Billy Eilish know she has an idol because like, I, like, I don't know if you saw. she had a commercial last night being like hey guys you know I'm a big fan

check out my new movie and I was like Billy it's too late for that nothing that we have learned indicates that you watch this show let alone that you're part of this she's like you guys know I'm a huge survivor fan it's like do do we know that and now you want to

show up when your movie's dropping and talk about it it's too late Billy I'm sorry I don't know if you guys saw the video I forget his name on he's a big survivor like tic-toker, the video of him breaking down Billy and Justin Bieber at the carlo?

Oh, yes. That was an awesome video. He did a little parody where I thought it was real where she was talking, well, he was talking about the idols. And I was like, wait, oh, this is real. Like, child, I didn't.

Well, how far into you realize it was? After I watched it and got into the comments, I was like, yo, this is so dope. Wait. I went to the all-winner Survivor page because I'm like, they have to have this posted. And then like,

actually, that's where I learned that it was a joke. I was like, I think that's Survivor Analytics, I think is the account. And we love you and we see you, Survivor Analytics. That also did get me.

I was fooled also. Halfway in, I think, I was like, oh, this is it. Right. She hasn't said anything the whole time. It's not crazy to think that maybe she said something, you know, at Coachella.

She's got a big audience. You know, at least 30 of those people watch Survivor. You know what I mean? Yeah. Well, she was saving a whole of the conversation to have with Bieber on stage about the state of affairs on Survivor. Yeah, I'll be honest.

And I know maybe this isn't her whole marketing direction or whatever. Yeah, I don't want to see, you didn't say anything the whole season. And now you're like, go watch my movie. I'm like, you should have said something sooner. Maybe I would have supported the movie. But now it just looks like a, I don't know. Trying to, try to,

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whereas I think Jimmy got an idea from a list and Billy clearly got an idea from a list. I guess Zach. Publicist. Zach was just like, I want to go fish. And they were like, all right. Okay. It's not really like a game mechanic.

But I think that you need producer brain a little bit to think of something that'll be not only good TV, but also beneficial to the person who it happens to, you know. And not detrimental. Like, yes, in a world where it's random, and then it happens to Surrey, we all hate it. But I like the you guys get to vote on who does it. Because you'll always get one person who, you know,

if it's not Rick, it's somebody else who wants the camera time. It's like, I'll risk it. You think so? I think there's, you always get someone that does it? I don't know. I don't. out of this cast, I think maybe they could have convinced Aubrey, but like I feel like outside of Rick and Aubrey,

I felt like when they were teasing it or when Jeff threw it up to her, I felt like if we didn't have a Rick, I felt like she might take it. But outside of Rick and Aubrey, I don't know anybody else that's- Rizzo tweeted that he was thinking about it and then Sarie gave him a look that was like, sit your ass down.

And he was like, okay. I wonder, and we're all saying it and we're all here, but like do you think they had a feeling it was going to hit like i wonder what the their risk versus reward was where they were all like it's gonna it's gonna it's gonna hit like there's no way they're gonna make the tv moment not work not that i'm accusing anybody of rigging anything but in the event you're gonna flip the like it makes sense that this is the story that is yeah i wonder if that's it you wonder in the back your mind like is this just gonna naturally work out like will i be rewarded for taking this risk and i don't know exactly how

they would do it because at first I thought it was a weighted coin, but then it was like, Rick has to call the side. Yeah. Now maybe they gave him a wink and be like, Mr. Beast. Or my theory was they could have two different weighted coins that they, like once he picks aside, it's like, all right, let's bring the coin back out. And it's like just weighted to be. And honestly, it's rigged.

If it was rigged, if there's ever time to rig it a little bit, this is the time. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Let's rig it. My only take two things that I didn't necessarily like. Well, my one theory is I feel like if it didn't hit and Rick went home, I have a sneaking suspicion after watching Beast game season two. I feel like Mr. Beetz might have awarded Devin's with that million dollars. I can see that.

And my other question, or my other like, gripe to Jimmy, is, Mitch, we've seen Beast game season two. You was giving out $5 million. You was giving out $3 million. You was giving out $2 like just a million. And I felt like we've seen this at Winners at War, like low key. So it was like $2 million.

It isn't, you've done that already. Like I felt like make it $2 million, make it $3 million. This is season 50. And it's Mr. Bint and he got the money. I think that's a hot take. I don't know if that's, of all the things that happened last night.

And I don't necessarily disagree. I think it's funny. All the things that happened last night, you're like, Mr. B should have just coughed up a little more breath. I like, which is also, Survivor's only given a million, and that's been a little bit outdated.

And you're like, but Jimmy, you know, he was on screen for five minutes. He should have been bringing, well, you know, the thing about beast games is his show. It's the crossover episode. What I do think is weird is that it's like, and they made a,

point to say it's Mr. Beasts money, which it feels like when you go out to like dinner with your parents and you like offer to pay, they're like, we got it. Like I feel like Jimmy to CBS is like, oh, I'll give the money. And then CBS you'll be like, no, we'll do it. Well, we got it. But they were like, we'll take it.

Can you do more? Are you sure you know order to pitch in, dad? I just mowed the neighbor's lawn. I got the five bucks. And dad was no, no, I got it. Okay. But CBS was like, yeah, it's The C. BS, as you can write.

We cut it down to 26 days for a reason. Let's give us this check. But let's get to that episode. Where do you want to start? Because I've got some of the takes. I still kind of want to stay on because we've been hitting this Mr. B stuff. And I think there's more to explore. And obviously we're going a little bit out of order here.

But we've already sort of dove into this. And it was obviously perhaps the highlight of the season. So can we stay on it for a second, Bryce? Jack, you're the moderator, you tell me. Okay, well, so, you know, we've discussed, I guess, do we think this twist outside of how it worked out,

like just on paper, where you can volunteer, you can volunteer or someone will get, if nobody volunteers, then there's rocks, and then you either, you flip a coin, you either are safe and get an idol, or you just go home. do we like that mechanic of a twist

completely independent of how it worked out do we think that's like a good twist or fair or like balanced or interesting the reaction for season 41 and 42 with that do or die which this is I guess the most equitable comp too people really didn't like it and I don't know why I like it so much here

as opposed to there. No, no, this is like Deshaun and then was it, was it Dreia or Lindsay in 42? I forget who did it. But Deshaun is like, bows out of a challenge or you're the first out of a challenge and then you have to pick a Monty Hall problem. And then it's either you are safe or you just leave the game.

And then both people who did it in 41 and 42 were both safe. But that just felt like weird and out of place, whereas this I really like. I thought this was a lot of fun. I agree with you, Brandon. I almost, again, I love the hourglass, right? And so I think it's a combination of the evolution of do or die in the hourglass because, again, the way that I look at this is the person at the bottom will benefit the most from this because y'all are clearly sending them to their demise. And so they really have nothing to lose.

And so I say it time and time again where it's like when you're on Survivor and you tell the person like, oh, we don't really. want to do much you going home today, Brandon. And like, that's just what's going to be. When they're playing from the bottom, and ain't nothing wrong with that. But when you are playing from the bottom, you have nothing to lose, right? Like, you are going to go balls to the wall.

And so I just think that this is something very similar. Like, even with the hourglass, where the person that no one is connected with, they're going to give the hourglass to them because it's like they want to keep their group together. And then all of the power. hour is in the hourglass. So I think it's an evolved version of that.

And I like it. And again, I like for the people to take the risk. And Brandon, I'll always be struggling. I have to ask Jack a lot. But if you're shot in the dark, I'm like, well, when's the best time to play it mathematically, Jack? Like, you know, with this, I understood the math.

You got a one out of two shot. Okay, this is Bryce Mav. Okay, like, I understood it. And I was like, okay, this is a risk. I'm willing to take. Yeah. No, I,

so yeah, I think on paper it's just like a really, really, it's like a shot in the dark on steroids where your odds are better. You get an idol out of it.

And you get like the good will, I guess of if you flip it, right, and you earn an extra million bucks. Like people are going to be pretty happy with Rick Devin's unless you're, unless you're Joe. I don't know if you saw,

but when everyone jumped up and celebrated you, they're like, and obviously the downside is in someone i think i was listening to the know it all is last and they made this point of like shot in the dark you can play it and like be in like not be safe but still not go home because people just did vote for you obviously here you do go home um that's the that's the big downside relatively speaking so um i think brandon the bringing up the doer die is a great comp and i think the general sentiment with that is like we don't love when

people go home without a vote. And so to me, the downside here, and again, luckily, we avoided it is, you know, Rick flips the wrong side and he just, like, walks out. And we lose all of this great pre-tribal scramble and everything that happened. And it's like, oh, that was like extremely anti-climactic. Obviously, I think had the outcome been him going home, I think the edit would have been a lot different of like it's going to be devins he's going to like shoot his shot here and it's really like a do or die uh we wouldn't have maybe seen as much but i also still think we lose out in not seeing

all of that stuff um because i think his the scramble that he did and like the things he the points he made at tribal i thought we're all really really fun and so i would have hated to lose those things i think overall i didn't mind it uh again but here's the thing to both the solution in my mind to A, not having a vote, and B, getting rid of like the potential of this rock draw to like really screw somebody over, I would have liked if they couldn't come to an agreement, then they would vote for who had to flip the coin. Yeah, I like that a lot. And then at least I think there's some strategy there of like, do I want Rick to flip the coin?

Like if Rick's my target, do I want to give them this chance? And I think people probably do. but then it's like, okay, at least Rick has been, or whoever has been, like, sentenced to this chance, and there's, like, some personal responsibility as to, like, why you were the one voted to do this. And you get to see the vote and the scramble. And then it doesn't feel as bad if they just, if they go home. And I also think, I think it was Zach Whartonberger, who I was watching with that said, like, we also were predicting some part of this Mr. Beware would be a double boot because,

we have now we have two more episodes until the finale which will presumably happen with six people left so we're going to have to get rid of three people in the next two episodes we thought hey maybe this is the double boot episode and I think you know if Rick does go home then maybe there was an opportunity of now we do vote another person now that's how I think you fix it

maybe that would have happened like I don't like time wise I don't know but maybe that was their solution to like if Rick just walks out we still do vote someone out and then we figure out the double vote but I don't know I'm glad it all worked out like it was such a fun episode but I in my mind the producer in my mind it was just like this could have gone very bad right I think that's exactly right and I think that it adds more stakes for everybody else your your your Jonathan's and your series and your Ozzy's who is okay with Rick doing this thing is if he does he does successfully, unsuccessfully hit it, we still have to get rid of it. Like, we're not in the clear. And I think that makes the interesting, the conversation more interesting as to who to push out to do it. But Joe's so funny. Joe's literally so funny. Listen, we, I love me some Joe, but it's, it's like, Joe is the only loyal member

to the honor and integrity club. And it's like, you know, when Rick Devons reveals the idol and he's like, hey, I just, just some paper from the Billy Islish and I just stuffed it in there. And Joe's confession, it's like, that low down dirty dog, you can't trust nothing. He says out of his mouth, he's my number one. Well, it's just like, Joe, you knew this from episode three. And so it's like, my, like, Joe, what are you, what are you thinking is happening here? the best survivor characters oh there he is i said the best survivor characters and then he popped up

it's like i didn't know i was talking about him what's up brandon the best survivor characters like your coaches and your and your you know your sanders and properties like they have natural opposition and i think like one of the best things about rick devons is that people constantly hate rick devons i mean it's so much funnier to have to have him always have like somebody on the other side who's like this guy so he had it in the pre-jury last time and the whole jury of his last run and now joe can't get away from him i got a question with a flashy gameplay like that it doesn't won't that breed people that don't necessarily love you or like i just i just feel like he does so much so naturally there will be people that are perturbed by that and that's going to

rub jurors the wrong. Like people, it's like, you're always doing so much. Well, 100 but that's why I think to Brandon's point, that's why we love him. It's like, the jury usually like eats his antics up because they're not in the game and they're like, this is a show.

Same as us like viewers being like, it's not necessarily the best gameplay. I don't think anyone's arguing that, but it's like, this is, the thing about Rick, he's always going to go for it. And like, that's just such good TV. So, yeah, it is going to rub people the game the wrong way.

And that's why if Rick somehow makes a run on this season, I'd be shocked. Like, I still think he's in trouble, but it's just, it's so fun. Yeah. So we have good TV.

The jurors basically have good TV because they're sitting there watching these antics. But as he sends people to the jury, I don't know. I think they might, even if he's sitting at the end, they might sour, or kind of like a Tony and Kagai on, they might be like, yo, he did that.

He did that. Yeah. A guy like Joe, I think, is just going to be sour. But that's why he's such an interesting player of, like, there's not a lot of other examples where the other people in the game are so generally like rubbed wrong by you. But then the whole jury is like loves you. I mean, it was the same way at Edge of Extinction. Like the jury was eating up his antics, whereas like Ron and Julie were like thought he was the bane of their existence. When Rick was, when we got back,

from tribal and Rick was talking to us, their fans, about like, they keep putting me in the back. Like, I think I got to bring the old Ricky out. They say, you're calling for them, so I got to bring them out. And it's just like, Ricky, Ricky been here the whole time. But, like, I would have love to make, like, it almost begs the question where it's like, even in life where sometimes, like, you try to conform into something. And then it's just like, it's just not who you are.

and you realize once you are yourselves, the accolades, all the things come. And so it's just like, I really wonder if Ricky would have just, in his mind been like, fuck it, is Rick Devin's season 50? It just makes me wonder what difference it could have looked like. Like, would he be more in a power position? Would he be home? Like, I don't know.

But like, I like this cousin Ricky. And when he went to tribal and said, Fuck all this shit. Let me just tell you this. Brandon said Wendell smelled like cheese. Wendell said Jack's Figerator got

moldy crackers in it. Like it just him putting everything on blast. That was, I mean, and again, when you're playing it from the bottom,

we don't bottom shame here. Play from the bottom. It was a great pitch. It was a great pitch. And a pinch that I think he only does because he knows he's going to get voted out. Like that's, there's no shot. Yeah.

It's the last ditch effort. It's desperation. I'm blowing everything up. I'm going down swinging. And then thankfully Mr. Beast comes out with the super good. And Wendell, that's all we had really gotten into so far was just that Mr.

Beast twist with the coin. Obviously what ended up happening, but also what could have happened if Rick had just been sent home, if they had to draw rocks to see. You flipped it. What were your thoughts on this twist just like on paper? And then I guess also, you know, the way that it worked out. Okay.

So let's think it through. If it lands on what he says, he gets all the stuff he got. He gets this, you know, everything. If it doesn't, he gets sent home and there's no vote. That person is just sent home, right? Yep. And if no one chooses, then they have to draw rocks for someone to flip it. Yeah.

I think the mechanic is cool. I think that this coin flip, I think it should, if it's a super beware, I'd almost think that it's like, and I heard this on the know it all. So I'm borrowing this take. But I think that you have that person go home and y'all have to vote someone out also. That's what we were saying. Yeah.

Yeah. Now Brandon Wendell said that he believed the coin, was weighted. What you think? No, I said that, I think. I know Jack, shut up. No, I don't think so. No, I don't think so. It's a, it's, it's such a great TV moment that they put into being able to actually

happen. And it just would have been such a nothing if it's just like, oh, you know, we'll take the money back and then you leave. Now, I'm not accusing it necessarily being weighted, but it's just such a strange. I would have loved to have seen what happened if there's no, Mr. B. B. S has to shut the money in the briefcase. Here's what would have happened. We would have seen them in the. next episode also doing something.

So that's exactly what I think. He's doing a challenge, you know, one of those. Yeah, they want to get the million added in there somehow. And that's why, like, obviously, I don't think that they would necessarily rig the coin, but I was like they really wanted to work out in this way. And it's just like way better TV

if it does. I do agree if Rick, because our whole thing, we, Brandon called out the do or die twist that was in 41 and 42. And neither time people, neither of the people involved with that just went home because they like, quote unquote, like died. They did instead.

But I think the whole mechanic and like the sentiment back then was like you don't really want someone to go home with no like without even having a vote. And that could have happened here. But I do agree it was basically like a like an amplified version of the shot in the dark. So it feels like a equal punishment to what you could get out of it. and we're appreciative of the fact that Rick volunteered because if someone had just drawn a rock like Surrey we said

if Surrey had just drawn a rock and gone home that would have been like one of the worst episodes ever so we both we all kind of agreed that hey if Rick does go home there should have been a vote after and then I also toss out the idea of like instead of drawing rocks maybe they just have to vote for who does flip the coin so that there is still a vote being done

Okay, that would be cool because, you know, they're all voting Rick anyway, yeah. Yeah, but then maybe to that vote, it's like, well, do I actually want to vote Rick to be the one to flip? Like, I don't know. So, but we all, I think we could say we all felt like it at least worked out pretty well. But there were worlds where it would not have. And I think that could have been bad. I think outside, yes. I think outside of Rick, though, I think two people had stellar.

performances in very different ways. One and two. Y'all tell me which one I should start with. Start with Tiffany and then move to Aubrey. Okay. Well, that's three and four. Oh. Because.

With Surrey, I think. Surrey. Oh, yes. My other person that I thought was kind of cooking, but I mean, again, going against the cloth was Mr. Jonathan. Okay? Because hear me out.

I can't trust Christians you, Bickie. He's a liar. Oh, Emily flipping, your name's flipping. I can't trust you. Jill, I like you. Stephanie, you my sister. Now, wait a minute. Okay, Mr. Mish, because Stephanie ain't said nobody Ozzy name.

Okay? And I was, I was impressed that Mr. Jonathan dropped that little nugget and Big Bang, Stephanie went to him. flying and then I even thought it was more hilarious during tribal where Ricky is blowing the spot up for everybody and Stephanie is literally out there naked, walking a plank asking for somebody to please give me a blanket, somebody, throw me something. And Jonathan said, like that's crazy

he started that avalanche yeah she didn't throw him out of the bus did she say something on the way out or something she was like I did not start that vote but she didn't say anything about Jonathan so Jonathan got another notch on his belt well like sort of I mean not like

but he was not the one that spearheaded this like in Jonathan's mind this was a very bad tribal council. But Bryce, I do agree because when Jonathan started cooking on this Ozzy vote, Jonathan was speaking in a way strategically that I didn't even know was

possible. It was like, I know he worked with Boston Robb beforehand to prep. I didn't know Boston Rob's ghost was inside of Jonathan using him as a vessel to speak. But I was very impressed with how he maneuvered and especially given the fact that he launched this

vote and kind of at least so far it's gotten out of it kind of scot-free even stephanie didn't throw him under the bus i will say though i don't know um if targeting ozzie was the right move though because i think you have more people in this game that do not really want to work with a jonathan and a stephan whereas ozzy is like open to it like emily flippin and rick should still be i think the target for a jonathan they're not going to be people that you're going to really work with. I do think, though, that Jonathan showed a lot of willingness to adapt with the Stephanie of it all and kind of went with it in a way where you see Joe, like, doesn't want

the plan to happen every week. And he does vote with the person who ends up leaving, but like begrudgingly so. He waits to the last second to try to switch it, whereas Jonathan saw that it was going a different way and he hopped on it, which is not, you know, that's a Boston Rob move, I imagine, which I think is, you know, that's what you need to do to do well. Whereas, you know, Joe a couple weeks ago not wanting to write coach's name and having to go back up and like write it's really small on the thing. That's an unwillingness to adapt to the situation. Which, you know, coach might really respect that on the jury, but people, other people will not.

Did Joe write her name really small? Is that? It's illegible. You got to see the screen. It's funny how in Joe's mind, if he goes up to the booth and does it like write it correctly, he's sort of like, I didn't vote for that. When it was coaching Chrissy and he just wrote Chrissy, he's like, I didn't vote for coach. And then now he's like, I didn't vote for Stephanie.

He couldn't even read my handwrite. That's honor and integrity, right? That's honor. That's honor in eligibility. It is interesting to like bend the rule, like he's bending the rules to try to still be honor and integrity. In his own mind, yeah. Yeah, yeah, which is really interesting.

That's how I always do it. I mean, that's the coach classic of like, and when I do vote out someone, that I was aligned with. It's like, well, you know, God told me I had to do that. Coach was like, Joe, if they can't spell it, they can't read it. You clear. But it's interesting when we're seeing, because I feel like Survivor 50 is really all about

the old school mechanics and the new school mechanics, right? And so I feel like, again, another testament of that was Stephanie, right? And I feel like Stephanie really went her, her move that she was using to protect herself was very old and outdated of, I didn't start the conversation. I didn't say your name. I didn't do that. What are you talking about? And it's when you watch the clips of like her talking to the people, she's like, well, that's what I heard. But I don't want to say your name.

But if you say it, I'll go with it. And again, we've seen that and Survivor. for and it's been so great. But like, I think the Riz guy called it out at tribal council where he like, what's up? Welcome to the new world. Welcome to color. We see black. We see white.

We see gay. We see straight. Like, we see all of the people. And guess what? Bryce might be gay, but I don't like him because he's ugly. Not because he's gay. And Rizzo said all of that at tribal? But Rizzo was essentially like, yo, sis, like,

You playing this It was I did it in the shower It wasn't me Want to call me on the fire It wasn't me I know that one She even got me with a girl next door

Oh I do not with you He's remixing this one It wasn't me I know the girl next door Next door. Big shit is we're of a fat naked thing in her ass.

How can I forget that I had given her an extra key? Oh, that time he was standing and she never took her eyes off me. Oh. Oh. She and is believing so you got no jugginsbacks. Well, I'm... Jack, why didn't you for you?

Sounds like Drexelach right now. Wait, before we get to Jack, I know this, I love this. Jack, hold on. Wait a minute. Yo, this is no time for me. This time for Jack. Don't say a word about me.

You, you, you know this song, word for word. Bryce, Isaiah. Bryce, I will, I will, I will quit the podcast. Don't you start with me. Is there something you want to share? Bryce Isaiah. Not with Brandon Dallin on the pod, Bryce Isaiah. Okay?

Keep it cute. Brandon just got it. Jackery, get your man. I will quit this podcast. He knew the melody. It wasn't him. Jackery. What song is?

That's Shaggy. Wasn't me. Oh. Come on, man. I would sing along, but that's not my inflection. What song is your inflection? What do you think best suits your inflection? Headliner Coachella Weekend 1.

Give me a little Justin Bieber. Okay. Yeah. That's all you can. What's up? That's on Yukon. Oh, yeah. Sing it.

I can't really sing. but, you know, I'm just saying Shaggy puts a little something on his lyrics that I don't think I should be on my Scooby kind of vibe. Sure. Or you're a friend. You stay on Fred.

You stay on Fred. Yeah. I'm a different type of Shaggy. Zoinks, dude. But naked in the shower. Well, you started hitting the part that like wasn't even, you know, there's a part that's not even really it's just you know

just vibes you're just going for it got to do let's let's continue on but okay so to your point Bryce I'm glad you brought that up because I was sitting there watching

Stephanie defend herself and I'm like even if this is your defense is this you want to tell all your fellow players you're like I would never facilitate a vote I've never facilitated a vote I've never facilitated a vote in my life. But I vote. Would I ever vote for you to win?

Like if you're just like, hey, I've never started to vote or thrown a name out ever. I'm like, that's not how you play Survivor. And so it's like, Stephanie can't start a vote and she doesn't know how to finish a sentence. Then like, what is she doing? And you know, normally when you ask people, who did you vote for? What do they say? Yeah, she's got an answer for that. I mean, I don't talk politics.

I love it here. I want to be here every week. I've never voted. Coach wrote in his name. Did you see that article? Coach wrote in his name for 2024. Yes, yes, yes. Coach wrote in his own name?

Yeah, for the 2020 World Action. Brandon, stop. Get out of my algorithm. Listen. Did he announce that? He did. I believe he said, I'm not political. I voted for me in the 2024 election.

Oh, he got up, went to the polls. I mean, he thought he had a chance. He's not often right about these votes how they go, I don't think. He's thought he won before. That's my man, but you got to tell other people to vote for you if you're going to say. You are allowed, not to say, I don't know if it would get traction, It's like if you do want to write your own name in, you can run. Like that's how that's kind of the first step.

I like it. This is the new maneuver for us, like a centrist white man who doesn't really want to vote is to just, you go vote for yourself. You're like, I did vote. I voted for myself. Or some people was like, I just, I voted for lump. What's that? It was an illegible. I got it.

Yeah. It's like when you put like the true false on a test, you make it like a T, but you also make it like a little laugh. I was doing a lot of that. Yeah. So. I don't agree.

But yeah, can we, can I hear you? Because Bryce, you brought up a great point that I totally agreed with like, is it not just crazy to be like, I've never facilitated a vote? I'm not that stupid where I'd throw out. a name. It's like, well, you're playing Survivor. Sometimes you got to throw out a name. It doesn't have to be this time. But how do you play Survivor without ever throwing out a name and like expect to win?

And again, it's the classic, the new school versus the old school. This is something we saw in the 20s, in the early 30s, in the teens. This is how people play. It was like, you just don't say a name. You listen for a name. And it's just kind of so very telling where it's like, you're being so loyal. and not even saying Jonathan's name, right? Like you're protecting him at your own cause. And it's like, you see Rick Devin's, Rick Devin's just pissed off, Surrey, Riz God, Ozzie, and he's still here. Because in the new era, it's like, all right, F you today. But tomorrow, it will figure something out.

And it's another thing that makes me think where, I don't know if the cloth is still a cloth. The cloth is a shred at this point, right? And it makes me wonder, right? Is Jonathan in a good position now? Because listen, now the nucleus that is, that was the middle. Now the middle is everybody, but Jonathan and some people, now it's like you're going to have to cannibalize soon.

And in order to cannibalize who you're going to need, right? And so it's like, it's just interesting where Jonathan's position where it's like, yeah, his alliance is decimated. but now when people start to want to eat people, they're going to need a vote. So it's just, the game is heating up. And the Rick Davins pitch of this tribal council is essentially the Jonathan pitch tomorrow.

Or he's like, my ships are sunk. And if you need me, I'm like, look at who's around here. Like we could take any of them out, just use me to do it. On which I do think he'll do, whereas I don't see that for Joe. I think Joe is going to, you know, you know, with love, with so much love. Joe's the back. But does that like, so this is where I struggle in Survivor,

Brandon, this is why I need Wendell and Jacks and your help. So if we know that with Joe, is Joe somebody I want to, come with me to the end, right? Like, you know, like, because it's like, what, what, what's your game, what you're doing? Like, you know, I feel like it's like, It's like people kept saying, Emily, Emily, but I also see a world where it's like, I kind of want to, come on, Joe.

Bryce, there's a lot of claws sitting on that jury. And he rode for a lot of them. So you might be guaranteeing Joe three votes. So, but again, gameplay wise and his gameplay, honesty, loyalty to a fault. Some players played like that. and they went down like that. So you put him at the end, I could see a scenario where he does see

a few votes from his cloth alliance. True. I do think, I agree, but I still, I think his votes are kind of capped out though. Like, yeah,

he gets, he'd get coach, he'd get Chrissy. Stephanie. I don't know about Stephanie, though, but I can see Steph vote for like a Surrey or an Ozzie.

Stephanie ain't vote for Surrey. Just a six time. Stephanie is done. This is the six ops of re-pissed in her face. Call it Stephanie and call it like Jonathan. That's four, but it's going to be a 10-person jury, right? I mean, obviously that's tight.

If you go in, you don't necessarily want to be like, okay, there's four votes I'm not going to have, but I don't see anybody else really voting for a Joe. If there are three people at the end, they could split three and three, and he wins. Those are four smaller. Well, I think the only person that prevents that is Surrey.

And I am a little bit wondering if Surrey eventually grabs him. Because I think that's Surrey's best play to have another number is like, let's just do it loyal. And Joe will be like, all right, why not? And they've been working together. Man. She's been working with everybody. Well, right. But that's that Syrigis.

I'm praying that Syrigis the end. I am as well. But I think what, at first I was. was worried for the Riz God that was going to be Surrey's like downfall, but I actually think it's going to be Ozzy, right? And we've seen time and time of again throughout this season.

Somebody is coming for Ozzie and Sarie takes up. Sarie goes to bat for Ozzy. And like, I think some of, I think Mike Bloom posted this, uh, me a lot. And like, she's really been protecting him. And I thought it was very telling when

Sarie and who else was it? Was it Emily? Or was Tiffany, when they went to Ozzy and they was like, come here, fix your face, Stephanie coming around here with them votes for you, Ozzie went right to Jonathan and spilled the plan. And so it's like, I feel like that did two things for Ozzy. One, it's like when you mentioned in my name, I'm going to defend myself. But I also felt like it kind of secures an Ozzy and the Jonathan. Like Jonathan feels like Ozzy meets the cloth.

eye test, but he's bringing him information. He's like, you know, and so it's like, I could see a world where Jonathan could get into Ozzy's ear. Like, you, brother, you think it's me and you and Sheree? Like you, and I could see Ozzy and say Surrey happens to be gone from camp for 20 minutes. you know, Ozzy, sometimes it's hard for him to process things without mother. And so I just say, like, just seeing him go to Jonathan and literally lay out the plan lets me know, like, okay, y'all connected.

But Jonathan did kind of just take a swing, and it hasn't bounced back on Jonathan quite yet, but I could see this getting out where Ozzy loses some trust in Jonathan. I don't know. I really think Oz is going to ride for Surrey. I still think Surrey will go at like five or six, like, when she's vulnerable and she's been masterly playing, and then you have like three people that are all sort of like, I mean, we just have to get her out, you know? I think Rizzo would turn on her.

Bro, I see her going as soon as I get a clear shot on her. And same with Ozzie, okay? But how soon could that be? That's not like next episode. I don't think. I don't know, man. I think, I think I think it could be as soon as the next,

well, I mean, we only have, what, three episodes left? Yeah. But we're final nine, still fairly early. Yeah. Like, I think, like, an Emily is going to go, like, next episode. And then I think, like,

maybe Devons probably soon, after that somewhere. And then you're going to, I think the bulk of the people, I think that, like, Surrey, Rizzo, Ozzie, Tiffany grew, is going to be hanging around at five with, like, Joe.

And I think, like, Tiffany, Rizzo and Joe would vote Alex Sarie. I don't know that. I don't like to think of that. I just like to pretend to see what happens. But if we're talking to Ray, this week and last week, my God, if Surrey gave us a playbook as to how to maneuver, how to handle Survivor, like this week, Sarie was under pressure in the sense of shit kept changing.

People kept going. People are coming to her, saying to her, you said this and that. And like, the way that she never raised her voice, the way that she said, well, yeah, they coming to me saying Jack, but I mean, Jack, a survivor. What you think?

I'm going to say no. I thought that. Like, I was like, oh! Yeah. That's amazing. Because let you say, like, let's you say, Brace, they said, I'm like, who said it?

Who said it? Like, the fact that she just, like, the fact that the vote continued kept changing, the fact that, like, she was like, is Stephanie, we need to get Stephanie out. Don't make sure. Like, it's just like the masterclass of Surrey, Robin, Monique,

Lanifia, Katrina, Fields. Like, I mean, it feels like such a deficit in skills from, like, her to like the next person. It feels like she's running around everybody. And everybody like, I think Rizzo is doing particularly well.

I think Tiffany's doing particularly well. But it just feels like there's such a wealth gap in terms of how much better she is maneuvering than there. It's like, it's like, she's LeBron. It's like she's done it so much. Her knowledge of the game is so sharp. It's like she just things are, things go in slow mo for her. She sees the game in slow mo. So Ria's LeBron.

games. Yeah. Because even Brandon, the people you mentioned that are all, I agree, are playing like really great games are like benefiting from being in her aura. Like, yes, absolutely. They should put her on seasons not as a player, but just to hang around. Like she gets to watch and then if you want advice, you go get advice. I like it.

She's an Oracle. Yeah. I can recall. I think that she just, she has so much to offer. And it's so funny. Like Stephanie goes over and is all panicked. And then just the reason, like they float. It floated it.

They floated your, like, you just so, you know, you'd be like, lean back. Even when the pressures, like, put on her, she's like, what am I going to do? Like, say, I'm not doing that, you know? Like, yeah. And it's just to think how different things would be if Surrey had gone home instead of, like, Jenna Lewis is like, I'm not, I'm not saying that's a world I want to live in. It's just like, like, everyone is under Seri's spell if you just dissipate that. And I feel like the game would be a lot more open. I know you had other things on the agenda.

I saw you pull up a picture early on of the Survivor auction. Can we talk a little bit of the auction? We can. So glad to see the auction. I love to auction. I was so glad to see something nasty. Like, where Aubrey had to eat the word?

Oh! I'm still there eating words. So, like, that would have been... And she loved it. She really took to it. Can you also, Bryce, bring up the picture of Surrey in that plate that she got? The chicanery board.

Can I say, I'll say something. I, and I didn't make it to the auction. I would never want this. This is the worst thing you can get at the auction, is whatever this. I want a meal. I want a burger. I want a steak.

I don't want this. This is like, this is, I want a couple. I was I was going in prep for the episode I was thinking what would I want and the Sharkoory board

jumped to mind because I get what you're saying I'd rather have a burger that fried chicken looked pretty good but I'd rather have this than like a dessert or like mac and cheese

oh I'd like try that you get a little bit of everything here you get some veggies not that I love veggies but you get some protein you get some you get a little little bit. I don't know. It was a big plate too.

Like you're going to get. I don't know. That brings me to just a, we'll dive more into the specifics of it, but I'm always curious, like, what did you guys see or not see that you really would have wanted if you were at this auction? Was there a big burger? I don't think there was a burger.

I don't think there was a grilled cheese. That grilled cheese did look good. It did look good. We saw a photo of Mia Ozzie. who bought that Ozzie because you saw Ozzie with his face in that Kate he said it reminds me at home first of all like

if this is in the hands of the fans Jeff because again Jeff been pissing me off all season where was the margarita I was waiting for the marks now that you've made it canon that it's cursed it seems weird to not happen they said it last time it was cursed yeah i would imagine i'm pro margarita especially with the curse but going straight into a balance challenge after if i had that marg i would have been like come on like although i guess that's the chaos that's the that's the chaos

and i was worried with the chaos and i was glad like you said brice that the chaos was just like okay, you got to eat some bugs, baby. And did they gave them $500 or did they give them a survivor credit card? It was, I think it must have been more because people were, people were. Okay, thank you, Brandon, because I thought I was tripping. I'm like, how the hell should be getting a schooery board or blanket, toothpaste? Like, how was Ozzie getting cake splitting the thing with like? I was like, this ain't like, are y'all just giving this out?

There was a lot of items. And not for anything. Joe? Nothing. Didn't get a single thing, Joe. Unless they didn't show it. He didn't get a single thing. And I didn't know if I was the only one that noticed it.

It's like he just didn't. Maybe they didn't put it in. So I, when we were in D.C., I was walking up to everyone asking them, like, there's always that one person that doesn't spend any money because they're waiting for like, normally you can buy an advantage. or something. And so I wonder if that's what it was.

But is Joe even the type that would be like, I need the advantage. Like to him, that's like shady gameplay. I don't, maybe Joe is like. Oh, for the letters. I think that maybe he was waiting. Maybe that or maybe he was just like. I'm taking this money home. Yeah. He's not playing about it's more payment.

I'm from around the way. I'm leaving here with something. Same with Tiff didn't buy a lot. I'm like, she's not playing about the L.A. right. Like she's, you know, and I feel it. So I said, it'd get real out here. Do you think that's a real factor?

I'm not saying for TIF or for Joe or for anyone, but in general, at an, that's a survivor auction. If you're there and you're hungry and you, because obviously I think on paper, it's like, okay, the sustenance that any of these meals could provide is easily worth these few hundred if it could even minorly help propel you to a million dollars, now two million dollars. But do you think in anybody's mind they're like sandwich for $300, no way I'm keeping this money? Like, is that a, do you guys think that's a factor for anybody of like, I don't want to spend my 500 bucks? But do you get to keep the money?

Yeah. You do. Really? Hard than in one world. Yeah, he wanted shocks for his car, he said. He's like, I'm just going to go buy shocks with this. Yes. I respect it.

Yeah, it's like a weird. Because obviously, like, if you could get a meal that maybe gets you a challenge win, whatever, or just like helps your clear your mind, it's like that's so worth the 500 or less or fewer dollars that, you know, relative to a potential million. But I wonder if people are just there like, I want a new PS5. Like, I'm just going to take this home. But if you're safe, I mean, there weren't a lot of eyes on Joe.

Joe's chilling. but the meals although granted they're eating like every other every day now like they got rice yesterday um yeah Joe's just like I'm full I'm good the thing I really

that they've had before that I really always I always thought would be the thing I would want is breakfast you get a little pancake a little bacon little egg that's what I want that's what I want a nice easy oh a crisp crisp CZ oh my gosh

And he's really good at 7 a.m. They do serve breakfast sometimes on Survivor. They do what? They serve breakfast sometimes. Well. At Ponderosa? We haven't been there, Wendell. None of us have been there.

They, uh. Not of us got to taste it. Did you have final three or final four breakfast? Final three. Final three. And how did it taste on winners at war? Got it. Okay.

You win the same boat as me and Brandon. Okay. We don't know no breakfast. Okay. Also, not to rag on Joe, because it generally was a wholesome thing. But I was like, no, genuinely was a wholesome moment,

but when Aubrey was like, this mac and cheese reminds me a home. And then Joe was like, it reminds me of the smell of my daughter when she drops ketchup on the floor. I was like, what is that you mean? Listen, Joe and dad, okay?

But I was also like, is this ketchup going with her mac and cheese? Because that's just a crazy move. Some people do. Oh, no, I'm doing it. Yeah, that's what I'm going to say. I'm sure a boy in blue would eat mac and cheese. With ketchup? Yeah.

I feel like to do that. Barbecue sauce? Jack, stop acting up because you got your brother, you got your brother. Barbecue. More, you know, I go a little buffalo on there. You know, me, Buffalo, mac and cheese bring that to Thanksgiving. Well, okay.

You could do a cream sauce too. A pepper sauce goes hard on mac and cheese. Oh, I'm a perry, Perry, Perry on my mac and cheese. But ketchup. No ketchup. No. No. Brandon. Because Brandon, we here, we've learned how Jack makes his macaroni and cheese.

Describe the macaroni and cheese that you were eating that you put the ketchup on. Oh. I'm doing, you guys got to get on this. There's a brand of mac and cheese that's in a box. Goodles? You guys doing Goodles? You know about Goodles? Describe it.

Like, how you make, continue. Oh, I mean, I'm doing what the box says. I'm not doing anything fancy with it. All right, so. Brandon has to go. He ain't past the vibe check.

Okay. What am I supposed to be doing with it? Wait, but you're just making it like the boxes and then you're putting ketchup on? That's your song? Yeah. It's smoked mac and cheese. I'll get a little. a little, sometimes I get a little grilled chicken, throw it in there and little

ketchup. Like pasta. That sounds good, actually. That sounds like a, what you call it? A casserole. Which? Which? Well, listen, I'm mad at it.

Listen, one thing, one thing, my older white woman, like, supervisor, my first job, she was, like, 72. I never really wanted to eat none of her food. But we did like a potluck. One thing she put me on to, a breakfast keesh. Ooh, baby! A breakfast keesh with some sausage.

Oh. Yeah. Yeah. That's the food of our people. If a breakfast keesh had popped up, Joe would have gone 500. But Jack. a couple of raisins in there. For flavor. You got the raisins

in for some flavor. A little ketchup, no seasoning. What were you going to ask, bro? Sorry. Tell your brother how you make your mac and cheese. So I haven't even made it like this before, but I think it was a Thanksgiving episode that we were doing. And they asked me,

what would I bring to the Thanksgiving? anything. And I said, look, I'm not a chef, but you get a little mac and cheese, you put it in a baking tray, you get some cheese on there, and then you put some, like, buffalo chicken in there. You get, like, a nice buffalo chicken mac and cheese. And they thought that was crazy. And maybe some

breadcrumbs on top. Yeah. And they thought, y'all are really diverting from the mac and cheese. Well, when, easy, let's... I'm talking mac and... This is, that's a buffalo chicken and cheese. Like, this is a cast roll.

No. I, if you go to Wawa and you order on the street, they'll leave a put chicken in it. They'll leave for chicken in it. And that's, when we left, Wendell, when me and Bryce left that thing the other day at Drexel University, my first stop was at the Drexel University, Wawa. And I got a fat mac and cheap.

What's a video? ketchup. Here's the thing, Wendell. Wendell, you might have aged out of the Mac and Cheese game because now you and Wennie are probably making the box, you know, the SpongeBob Mac and Cheese. Which is fired, but it's

a different, it's a different avenue. I'm not even going to go because that's a sensitive subject for me, Jack, because Wendell's son loves some macaronia cheese at all times of the day, and it pisses me off. It pisses me off when I go

over there and he's eating, it's seven clock in the morning. He's like, you watch your local bro? No. That's not breakfast. But I'll have a bite, but you got some ketchup. And I would say, let's talk to the mac and cheese. Something about the little shape, like the little character

shapes and the way the cheese kind of falls through those and distributes itself, a little texture on the tongue. I mean, there's something nice about the SpongeBob mac and cheese because to me a lot of the shells, they carry a little little too much cheese in the shelves. Oh, I get trapped in there.

It gets a little trapped because I'm more about the Mac than the cheese. Oh. But that's, you know, and that's all I got to say about that. Okay. It tastes like- Nice. How do you like your mac and cheese? I feel like everyone jumped in. Well, first of all, it's multiple cheeses.

I need some Gouda. I need some cheddar. I need some velvita. I chop them up into little cubes. Okay. I make me a cheese. Rue with some condensed milk. I don't use egg. Mix my cheese together.

Get my noodles. I make my noodles Eldente. Don't cook them all the way. Butter in my pan. Put a little of my pasta. Then I do the cheese, then the pasta, then the cheese and the pasta. Then I take some of my leftover cheese that I have,

grade it up, put it on the top, put some sticks of butter on it, put foil on it, put it in the oven, 375 for about maybe two hours. The last 30s. minutes, take it out, turn the oven up a little higher, take the foil off, put it back in, let the cheese won't get crushedy. And listen, the test of the test is, when you dip that first spoon into the macaroni of cheese, if it don't sound like you dipping in me, then I don't want it. Like you dipping in what? You heard what I said. Like if it don't sound like you dipping it in me, then I don't want it. Brandon ain't never coming back.

Brandon is going to get on the phone with Rob. I don't know what you are sanctioning over there. I'm the happiest I've ever been. Do you put any sort of skipping over the other bits you said? Do you put any sort of like salt, any sort of hot sauce? Jack, my macaroni cheese needs nothing. I will season my rue a little bit, little salt, pepper, maybe some, just a tad bit of lourries,

maybe even a little honey, but like, yeah, my macaroni and cheese is fire. That does sound good. That sounds really good. We used some protein, but we didn't guys. Yeah, we're reminding Aubrey too much at home with all this, man. She's talk, but any other notable standout moments from the episode? Tiffany, Tiffany, she has stayed low. They tried to cut her.

seen much of her, but we see that she's loyal. We see that she's rocking who she's rocking with. And she has shown us. She is a formidable threat. If it wasn't last week, she was in the final three. This week she's in the final three. And I really feel like she going to make something shape. Like she is, y'all don't want to add me to nothing.

I'm going to put myself there. So I was extremely excited. When she won, the whole DC crowd. They were so excited. Like, I could have shed a tear. I love Tiffany so much. Like, that win was for everybody. There was another huge cheer in D.C.

At a later point in the episode, but the first huge cheer in D.C. was for Tiffany. People were loving them. Yeah. Yeah, she's been cooking in the challenges. Got to win. And I feel like after losing, because a lot of her premurge, I felt like her people were like D.

and Camilla, and she gets left out of the first merge vote. And since then, she's really just like recalibrated her game, found some new people with Surrey and with Joe. And I'm sure some more relationships that we haven't seen. And Aubrey, I feel like they've got a, yep, good spot. So, I mean, she's in a great spot. She's not really on anyone's radar. Like, I think she's going to be able to make some things shake

and hopefully get to the end game position where she can make a couple moves and find herself in a really favorable final three. But it seems like even like in the challenge, everyone was like rooting for her. Like people love her. So she's in a great spot. As her as her people got picked off. Like Bryce said, she got low. She figured it out and she found her way in.

Whereas like Rick, they got rid of Christian. Rick is turning up, you know? So there are various ways to do it. And it seems like Tiff. Tiff is like this silent assassin. I love watching. this game. I love, I love this version of Tiffany. Her first season, she had that chaotic tribe, Jolensky, Banu, Q. This was her, this season is like, you know what, you can find your gamers.

All right, they get picked off. You're still finding your game. I love watching her play. Yeah, she is really a testament too. She's one of the only new era of people that came in without this like legacy or legendary air to her. And this is the test. for having another returning season of people that kind of went out around the same time and didn't get a chance to solidify themselves as like a great survivor

because Tiffany, wherever she plays, is going to be somebody that we all remember because she was a part of this monumental season with your series and your Ozzie or what have you. So I hope we get another one pretty soon. Yeah. I was confused because we went, we drove up to Washington, D.C., and we drove

back. But I was confused as to why, like, Eliza Orland was trending on Twitter last night. sell me in I don't know I was asking You could From New York You could hear the fireworks From her apartment

Wherever that is She really I thought it was the 4th July I've seen it Brandon I'm like What's going on? What happened?

They were allowed She's thrilled Nobody more thrilled than her this morning And she's telling you If you look at her Social media She's talking about She's very happy

I'm sure I'm sure Biggest Mr. Beast fan in the game. That's why. Yeah. She, she, the Eliza Stephanie beef is something to be studied. But what I will say is early on in the season, when she like, you know, they had their TIF what, like a year ago or whatever it was, like right when Stephanie got off or something. And Stephanie saw the tweets and like came at her and, you know, we saw that video.

And then it seemed like Eliza got low for a minute. And then the day before the season airs goes in on Stephanie. And me and Bryce, you know, we talk candidly. We're like, yo, maybe Eliza has news that we don't have. Maybe Eliza knows that Stephanie's the winner and she was holding it to just really ruin this moment for her. I mean, she did a lot to that moment. and now we see that Stephanie's not the winner, but my goodness. Yeah.

That's a lot of Stephanie stuff is. I'm curious. Has there ever been another beef where you're just on neither person's side? Same thing else come to mind? When they go low, we go high. I've always said, you know what I mean? Do any of y'all follow Fruitie Island, the watch party? Oh, yeah.

That clip that they posted is forever ingrained in my head. I love gay people. What? That was a line of dialogue in the Stephanie. It was further towards the back half of the three minutes. I love gay people was verbalized by her loudly. Followed by a butt. I'm kidding.

We got to go. We got to go. Let's keep it moving. Shout out to Stephanie. Shout out to Eliza. Let's keep it moving. Jack, what else you got? That's about it right now.

I'm going to get in trouble. Well, listen, the season is for sure heating up. Season 50, episode 10. And over here on Survivor News, Brandon, Jack runs a strict program. Okay. And tidiness and timeness is very important. Okay. Jack, I'm smelling a spring break. Okay. Okay.

What do you mean? I'm just smelling a spring break, okay, because I didn't have this conversation multiple times. I was getting a haircut. My barbershop is in a bad service. I texted you and it didn't. didn't go through. So I texted you at 340. It didn't go through. Brandon? No, I texted you at 340. I said, hey, Bryce, the barber, the haircut is running a little late.

You got to get me right. I'll run a little late. Brandon, what time you get the link? Hey, it's all good. Listen, we're all having, we have, this is so much fun. No, we are, but you know, sometimes you ask the young. I mean, the audience isn't even to notice when Wendell is. I'm going to take my old spring break. I'm just saying, Pasi, I think we might have to spring break them.

We had Jimmy and Brandon Donlin in our presence to help fill in. So that was all good. Very much so. Well, Brandon, we love and appreciate you. Wendy Zee, Jack is always a great time. We'll be in Austin next week. The Penn Ultimate episode will be in Chicago, New York. We'll be at the karaoke.

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