RHAP: We Know Survivor - Purple Pants Podcast: Survivor News 50 Ep 8 Recap | Duo Danger. Ft Sophie Segreti
Episode Date: April 17, 2026Purple Pants Podcast: Survivor News 50 Ep 8 Recap | Duo Danger. Ft Sophie Segreti The baby boys Wendell, Jack, and Brice are back this week with special guest Survivor 49’s Sophie Segreti, breaking ...down Survivor Season 50 Episode 8. A game changing twist forces players into unexpected pairs, raising the stakes and putting multiple people at risk as strategy gets complicated fast. Tensions rise as castaways struggle to balance loyalty and survival, with plans shifting at the last minute and trust continuing to crack across the beach. From bold gameplay to a high pressure Tribal Council where everything feels up in the air, this episode keeps everyone on edge. Wendell, Jack, Brice, and Sophie dive into the key moves, who gained power, and how this vote could reshape the game, while naming this week’s Duo Danger and keeping an eye on the “Enemy Today, Ally Tomorrow” energy taking over the island. Tickets and updates for Brice and Wen 50 events: https://briceandwenpresent.flite.city/ You can also watch along on Brice Izyah’s YouTube channel to watch us break it all down https://youtube.com/channel/UCFlglGPPamVHaNAb0tL_s7g LISTEN: Subscribe to the Purple Pants podcast feed WATCH: Watch and subscribe to the podcast on YouTube SUPPORT: Become a RHAP Patron for bonus content, access to Facebook and Discord groups plus more great perks! Previously on the Purple Pants Podcast Feed: Purple Pants Podcast Archives
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Breaking down all things, Survivor,
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Welcome to episode 8 of Survivor News.
It is your baby boys in the building.
But first and foremost, I must introduce the one and only from Survivor 49, Miss Sophie
Sogretti, who, if I'm not mistaken, is fresh off the hills.
of Sofchella.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If my voice is a little scratchy,
it's because I was maybe screaming at a lot of artists
who were not Zach Brown this weekend.
But I'm so happy to be here.
Thank you for having me.
It's great to have you.
I'd also like to introduce one half of Bryce and Wend,
the smarter, more talented, brilliant half,
the one and only Bryce Isaiah's.
the building.
Wendy Z.
So good to hear your voice.
Always good to chat.
And we got Sophie S with us.
So I'm exciting.
As in my,
as in my end.
The one and only from
the Circle Season 2,
from the floor is lava,
the alternate from Sophie's
season Survivor 49.
Did you see him at Ponderosa
Sophie?
Maybe not.
Maybe not.
I've already got
in trouble with CBS 1.
Did they pull Jack from
Ponderosa?
Yeah, I was talking too much.
How are we doing, Jack?
We're good. You know, I initially didn't think I was
going to be able to make this one.
But, boom, here we are.
Cancell all my plans.
Very excited. What a great episode to talk about.
Yes. And we can't forget the one
and only last time we seen him,
Winners at war,
the first merge boot himself.
Wendell Holland was popping with you.
It's good to be here.
Thank you, Bryce Isaiah.
You know, I was on more seasons than Winners at War,
but we'll just go with that.
If that's what you say,
well, listen, we got a great episode to get into.
Jack is cracking a whip this episode,
but Wendell and I are back from Boston.
And Bay Bay,
Boston did not disappoint.
Boston delivered.
It was a star-studded night.
Miss Aubrey was in the building.
Jeremy Collins, Brett LaBelle, Charlie,
Jamal Shipman.
We had some Squid Games, Val Collins.
So much in the building.
So much to talk about.
Ethan, Evie Jagada.
Oh, Ethan.
Ethan was in the building.
So much.
I was fan girl all night.
And Ozzy in Miami had it popping.
Over there in Miami.
So much fun.
And listen, we only got a couple more episodes left in the season 50.
So if you want to join in on the fun, Wendell and I are still on the road to season 50,
as well as Ozzy next week.
Wendell and I will be in St. Louis, then Washington, D.C.
Ozzie is going to be in, he's going to be in San Francisco next week.
And, Bebe, if you want to go, sorry.
Because Bebebe is sold out.
Okay.
They add capacity.
They is jumping over the moon.
for Ozzy, like I am.
Wait, which man is sold out?
San Francisco, April 22nd.
We got a little, a little space left.
They better hurry up.
He'll be in Pittsburgh as well, and that's not all.
We'll be in Austin May 2nd, Chicago, May 13th.
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And if you're on Baltimore,
Gabe is hosting a Survivor finale event, May 20th.
So listen, we got you covert like it's two pairs and we go home.
A lot has happened this episode.
And I'm going to just be on quiet.
I'm a be quiet.
Sophie, a lot of our listeners, the posse, they get on me and Jack because they say Wendell
doesn't talk.
Jack and I be passionate
So, you know, Wendy Z, what's you got for us?
Oh, oh, it's crazy because Jack is usually our moderator,
but Jack decided to show up.
But Wendy Zee prepared a little bit.
So Jack, what I'm going to do is I'm going to get us started
and you can feel free to, you know, take.
Do your thing, Wendell.
Yes, let him go, Jack.
You played on Winters out.
You played one season of Survivor Winters on War?
Well, to give you a little bit more time, Wendy's, we have Sophie. Sophie, you are just fresh off the island of 49.
What is it like watching not only another season, but a returning season, one that's allegedly in the hands of the fans, aka Jeff, what you think?
What do you think of the season?
First, I'll say that, like, going back to being a fan from playing is just so weird because you, I was like literally just, just, just,
there this time last year I was in Fiji.
So the part of me is like,
God damn and I wish I was on 50.
So there's a little bit of that competitive.
I'm sad they're living out my dream.
But then because it is a returning season
and I am a huge survivor fan,
I feel like I am Rizzo at home,
like openly fan-girling over all of these players.
Like the surrey of it all,
I can't wait to meet her because she must have,
like she must be one of the most magnetic
and charismatic people in person,
watching, like, hardened Survivor veterans
who've played multiple times just fall under her spell.
So that has been amazing.
Survivor 50 is half.
I'm, like, loving the drama,
loving all the baggage that people are bringing
from past seasons.
And then half,
I am over some of these production shenanigans.
Jeff and his cringy rapping.
Like, the reason I like Survivor is,
not the gimmick nonsense.
Like, I don't need a Billy
Isish idol. I just need a cool
idol. I don't need Zach Brown
to cook me a meal. I just need a good meal.
Like, Survivor has never
been in it for, like, the fame
and the fortune in the way that
other reality TV is.
Like, this isn't dancing with the stars.
This is Survivor. So,
I would love a little bit more, like,
strip back to
just the game. And I feel like that's actually
what we got this episode.
Like the hair twist didn't have to do with any celebrity.
There was no weird Jeffism.
It just was like a legitimate thing we've never seen in Survivor before
and had the potential to really like fully flip this game.
And it did.
It would never lie.
Yeah, it really did.
I was scared that this, what we were calling what, the cloth alliance or whatever we want to call it?
I was scared that they were just going to steamroll and people were just going to be okay with watching everyone get picked off.
This was like, I don't want to call it the death blow, but this was a huge blow to this alliance.
This could be the two main characters in the alliance.
In one fell swoop, they're out of here.
Just like that, the cloth is cut in half, but it's still a claw.
Oh, okay.
Yes.
But seeing as how I'm talking this episode and I will be moderating,
shall we start at the beginning of the episode?
We have some, we had devoted out last episode,
and now we have some fallout, I guess, per se.
We have Jonathan being happy.
And we have Tiff in her confessional.
And she's really good at this.
In her confessional, she's like, I'm so mad.
Like, I'm pissed.
I'm going to get my revenge.
but then she's able to get it all out in the confessional
and then get back to the beach and play some survivor.
And we've seen her get pissed and then in the confessional
and keep her, keep her wits about her and stay under control.
I think this is a sign of a really good survivor player.
Yeah, I feel, I mean, Tiff was getting the Sophie Sogretti
not a lot of airtime early on treatment.
And so I was so glad to see,
because I'm sure she's been having great confessionals this whole.
game that we just haven't seen, but agreed.
She, like, kept her composure and that conversation with coach when she sits him down
and is like, yo, was it you?
I kind of heard it was maybe you.
And she, yeah, like, to your point, Wendell, she's cool, collected.
And it's coach who just kind of can't even find the words.
And so I feel like we saw the fallout where Tiff was like, all right, coach is dead to me.
And that, but like with Joe, who when he.
He spoke to Tiffany.
He just came out and was like, look, I tried to vote you out.
I'm sorry.
Like, let's move together.
And then you see that she was like, okay, like, maybe I got something to work with here because Joe's actually telling me the truth.
Whereas coach can't even think up a lie to tell me.
Sophie, the way I died when coach was like, oh, I guess I got to go figure out how to make this right with Tiff.
He said Tiff down.
Tiff, like, what's up?
he's like, hey, you can cuss me out,
but let me say what I got to say.
Tip, like, all right, what's the?
He's like, well, listen, Tiffany.
A lot of people will say your name.
I,
me, never said it.
I was actually pushing for Jack Atkins.
Tiffany said, who the fuck is Jack Axis?
What the hell?
The thing that, and I'm like, okay, maybe coaches, maybe he's going to, like, I'm like, okay, I'm
like, okay, I'm impressed, right?
Like, he got his monologue, he got his high coup off.
Tiffany said, well, who was pushing my name then?
Coach said, huh?
He glanced out.
He said, that's not a high school kid.
I did not think you were going to ask me that part.
I think coach fully disassociated there.
He was having a flashback to like token cheats, I think.
I just don't think how you prepare for a conversation.
And we see he clearly prepare.
And it's like, bitch, how don't you have the one rebuttal
that somebody he was saying in that moment?
It's also what are you getting the line?
He had that starter line.
Yeah.
He didn't slowly up.
Chrissy didn't prepare him enough to have any follow up.
It was just like, it's like when a guy at a bar goes up to a girl with a pickup line,
and it like kind of works.
And she's like so like, yeah, he's just like, oh, I might have been that guy before, but.
And it also coach, because he said, he didn't say Jack Atkins.
He said, I was pushing for Emily.
What did?
Wasn't he the one who told Dee a few episodes ago, like, Emily was coming for you?
And Dee was like, that's my friend.
So like, probably not.
But what's coaches be with Emily?
I mean, I guess maybe it's all explained by the look that Emily gives that tribal.
Yes.
I'm like, you changed my life, Coach.
Emily was like, Emily was like, you might need to get a zombie for your damn to fix your life did.
What was interesting to me, though, was, again, we see Joe with Tiffany.
We see coach with Tiffany.
I was surprised by Ozzy's approach with Tiffany because Ozzy was like, hey, man, coach gave me this look.
and he said,
huh?
And like,
I was interested to see,
like,
did y'all think that was a good,
and I guess he was just being honest,
but like,
and I love Ozzy,
but I was thinking like,
if I'm Tiffany,
bitch,
your name is in the back of my head
because like,
okay,
I get you with coach,
but bitch,
you gotta write my name down.
I actually thought it was like a really great approach
by Ozzie,
some of his better game play low key,
because Surrey wasn't
around telling him what to do.
But because, you know, it's the split.
And look, sometimes you're going to end up in, like,
the minority part of the split vote for someone you don't really want to vote for.
And I think it's the best thing is to be like, to be straight up.
You say, like, hey, coach was pushing the whole narrative.
Like, it was either like, coach's where the highway.
And then he, and then Ozzy says, like, with that being said, I want to get out coach.
I want to work with you.
I want to, like, set those next steps up.
So it's not even like you come and you just apologize, which I think is obviously a good
thing, but you're like, hey, here's actually an actionable plan that we can like work on together.
And I think that's like a great olive branch to extend the TIF.
And Joe's did something similar, you know, so.
Yeah, I think both worked because I feel like TIF was, yeah, she was pissed.
She was blindsided.
And so she just wanted, I think maybe answers more than anything else.
And, you know, like this is Survivor 50.
This is a checkers.
This is chess.
So if you aren't getting like a random, a name every now and again from maybe somebody who you're
allied with or will be allied with, then like, this isn't the game.
Like, that's the nature of the game today is that you might catch astray from an ally
that is, yeah, that is supposed to help further all of your games in the end.
You need those, you just need those answers.
You just need some kind of good answer to piece things up because you don't have many options.
Your options are dwindling.
So it's like, I'm going to talk to y'all.
And if you guys give me the right stuff, all right, we can move forward.
If you guys put your foot in your mouth, less than luck.
learned. And again, a testament to Tiffany's game, I think we're just, I think we're seeing like the
evolution of a masterful player in Tiffany. I'm like, I pray she wins. I want Tiffany to win this season.
But if we can see her again and again because like we're watching her having these conversations.
We're watching her clock things. We're watching her manage her emotions. We're watching her doing well
in challenges. Tiffany's not at all. And yeah, she just needs a good response. Ozzie, good enough.
Throw coach under the bus. Joe looked her in the eye like, yo. And we'll talk about that.
We'll talk about that. We'll talk about it later. Okay. But Joe looks her in the eye like,
yo, I did it, but let's work. And it seems like it kind of worked. Especially when they're
like kind of classically straightforward players coming to you, like an Ozzie and Joe that are like laying
it out there.
Like Joe's not going to come in with,
like, neither is Ozzy.
They're not going to come in with some like major BS that you got to like
they're kind of going to shoot straight with you.
If a Joe doesn't want to work with you,
he's not going to come apologize.
He's just going to like hang out with his squad.
Yeah.
So I think Tiffany,
it was right to take it all at face value.
And Tiffany shows us, right?
Like, again, when I played and if I always think myself in these positions,
Mitch,
F you, F you, put my back against the wall.
And I think in Tiffany's confession, she says it the best.
In this era or how we're playing an enemy today is an ally tomorrow.
And I said, who Bible.
Yes.
Well.
Jack's tradition is so much better.
It's been like eight seasons since I was a moderator.
My moderating was so good back in the day.
Nonetheless.
To his credit though, Sophie, he used to be.
He used to be so good, Sophie, that the thing that we would hate is he would talk,
he would note the commercials.
Oh, I forgot it.
Yes.
And he used to sing the jingles.
So it's like, I'll give him a little credit, Sophie.
He used, that's impressive.
Toby, I was, I was thorough with my moderation and I was trying to ink us a deal.
So, you know, we could even hold down the commercials.
Maybe they'll give us a deal.
We're still waiting on a deal, but, you know, that being said, listen,
Ben Gay, okay, you're still out there.
It's just been gay, okay?
Is that a person or like?
Oh, Jack.
Isn't that a product?
It's an icy hot brand or the icy hot competitor.
I thought that was like one of our listeners like, Ben Gay, if you got a deal for us.
Hey, if you're listening to Mr. Gail.
Please sign us.
There was also talk about floaters.
Floaters.
Sorry, I'm sorry.
Yeah.
The middle.
Bisexuals?
If you're, can y'all, are y'all
trying to sabotage me today?
Is it Ben gay or Ben Bicurious?
Or is it Ben Polly?
this is what happens on this podcast
about 20% survivor and then about
and that's why I don't talk because
can we talk about the middle
the middle
Ben Gay, Ben bisexual, whatever we're calling it.
We got what? Aubrey, Devin's
Emily, I think we got a fourth. Who's the fourth?
Christian.
Christian.
Yes.
And then we have the we have the
cloth over here.
We have the middle floaters.
And then we have
Cerizzeriz,
we're Wizard of Oz.
Yes,
the Wizard of Oz.
But the thing is,
I think the cloth views them
as like part of their group.
So it's just
everybody,
the middle,
who is just the other side
at this point.
Yeah.
To them,
it's like the middle
and then there's like just Tiffany.
Yeah.
It's like,
yeah, who are you guys against?
That was my confusion.
And when you call out, we have to get the middle
and you say it like seven times.
It's like, that's just your opposition at this point.
That's just the other side.
And I'm not a numbers guy, Sophie,
but like when you talk about the middle,
shouldn't it maybe be like two people?
Like it should be a voting squad
that can actually swing the vote.
That's actually not the middle.
I feel like this, what, we started with 24 people.
Like I think everybody, because
we're no longer in the Kansas of 18 people.
No, like, yeah, we're throwing out terms like middle that like don't even apply anymore.
Because yeah, those are, that's, that's a voting block.
Like that's a four tight alliance.
That's not necessarily just the middle.
Like, it used to be swing vote, not swing voters.
But I am, I'm, I got to be honest, I'm like impressed that I think mainly Emily and
Aubrey, like I really, they're.
have been some episodes where I have been worried for those girls and because they have been so
like overtly flip flopping back and forth and they're kind of like nobody is really coming for
them yet in a way that I'm like I'm impressed and it's it might be because they are really
acting more like a true alliance and less just like swing voters and I think it's also because
you have like you've had a coach you have you have some big personality.
and big players.
Surrey's out there.
Now, she's just, somehow she's dipping and dodging.
You got Ozzy.
You have players that, you have Jonathan,
you have players that there are so many eyes on these people
that and a flipping Emily who's flipping all over the place
can still find a way to dip and dodge.
And same with Aubrey.
It's like she just had an idol.
She just held it.
She lied to you all.
Then she burned.
And she's still maneuvering.
And it's cool to see.
But again, with the cloth alliance being kind of like dismantled,
now they're down to what, three or four?
Yeah.
I think there's going to be,
there's going to be a lot more eyes on this middle,
especially the floating types.
Can I make a comment?
Sure.
Okay, I'm just putting my last.
Because, listen, there's no shade.
Because I love, but my girl, Chrissy,
But when we are talking about the middle, she does make a statement like,
uh,
we got to get these middle people out because if not,
they're going to go to the end and this is Survivor 50 and this can't happen.
And my only thing is, well, girl, these middle people are working the game.
My haiku to you is, sister, what you've been doing?
Right.
Like, I like that.
Like, I'm just like,
What you mean they can't get to the end?
Girl, they're playing.
You're aligned in the cloth.
And so that was just my only question.
Like, what do you mean?
I know.
I feel like she gave it away.
I feel like Chrissy admitted like, yeah,
we're not really playing that like,
we're not playing that like survivor of a game.
Like the Clause Alliance is, yeah,
doing that kind of honor and integrity bullshit.
And so I think she was like,
If we get to the end with anybody who, like, was playing,
we'll say Survivor, New Era, whatever, Survivor as we know it,
like we're not going to win.
And so I feel like she really added herself as,
and that whole alliance as not really playing strategically.
Yeah, that's a great point, Bryce.
Especially you're being like, this is Survivor 50 like that can't.
Someone who's playing strategically cannot win.
We got to audit it up.
Come on.
I was just like, sis, what's going on here?
Yeah.
Someone who tells me I talk too much has to win this season.
But wait, can we also talk about in that same breath, justice for Chrissy?
Because Chrissy got her lick back, okay?
Coach was on that hammock.
Chrissy pulled up and Chrissy said, hey, Ben, you doing a lot of this?
doing a lot of this.
And now I'm attached to your ass.
And so I'm going to need you to haiku or chew.
Okay.
Haku shoo.
And coach was your life.
I did think it was diabolical of the producers to have you your fate tied to the pair
because I bet like Christy was like, are you fucking kidding me?
Like now I have to worry about coach.
Like I, in that moment, I was like, damn.
I'm trying to think of like the worst person from my season.
Like, what if there was, what if I was on a pair with them and then your fate is tied to them?
Or like, yeah, Aubrey and Devin.
Like, it just, oh, God.
That, that was some messy shit that the producers gave us.
And I was here for it.
What do you all think of the pairs?
Joe and Tiffany, Ozzy and Stephanie, Devin's and Aubrey, Christian and Jonathan, uh, Chrissy and
coach and Emily and Rizzo.
I thought there were some strong looking pairs.
I thought the Jonathan Christian pair, it's like, you got it all there, you know?
And not even all there.
I thought that was the best, not even physically.
I thought where they're aligned, I thought, and I don't, I guess I got to give credit
to Jonathan, right?
Because it's like, we don't know what's going to happen in this twist.
And if potentially were voted out, I do want to align myself with someone.
who's working with the middle,
aka the numbers, right?
And so that if they were to be voted,
I know the cloth isn't going to want to vote me out.
And I know the middle isn't going to want to vote Christian out.
So I was like that outside of the physical aspect
and the puzzle aspect,
I was like, that's actually, in my opinion, the strongest payer.
I've been trying to give Jonathan his just-do all season.
Like, I like this version of Jonathan.
Like he seems poised, even keel.
He seems like he's trying.
He seems a little more self-aware.
I do like this version of this 2.0 version of Jonathan.
And aside from this pair, I thought another pair that looks similar with one from each side with a lot of strength is Ozzy and Stephanie.
Yeah.
Lots of strength.
Both sides, you know.
Both have some controversy.
Not I'm kidding.
Just one.
What?
I don't know.
Oh, go ahead, Jack.
Okay.
I feel like most of the pairs were one of each alliance
except for Chrissy and Coach and then Rick and Aubrey.
Because like Tiff and Joe kind of had one of each.
And I guess Rizzo and Emily were the other one that were technically
both
both on the non-cloth side
but it's funny that like
for some reason Rizzo and Emily
like really flying out like
they didn't come up once
Rizzo is a horseman
yeah
he is a horseman
a horse god
a horse god
I guess
I guess
I read somewhere
that and I don't believe this
because I believe Rizzo
to be playing a really strong game
and like
he won me over these last couple episodes,
but I think I saw somewhere where people are like looking at him as like,
all right,
we can bring him to the end.
So it's one of these situations where he's doing whatever he wants because the eyes
aren't there on him.
And it's like,
do whatever you want, bro.
I disagree with that because what we're seeing is Rizzo looking like he's maneuvering
and really having these conversations.
But it could,
two things could all.
also be true.
Yeah.
One pair that I was worried for, just, I was really worried for cousin Ricky and Aubrey.
Just when I saw the pairs, I was just like, I don't know what's about to happen here.
But to my delight, Miss Aubrey got in the field, cousin Ricky.
I was like, y'all better do the damn thing.
That wasn't really actually a really well-balanced.
challenge in terms of, I agree, I was not, I saw, I saw, uh, yeah, Devons and Aubrey and I was like,
oh shit, they're cooked. But they like, because they made it to the, did they, they made it to the end, right?
They made it to the ball challenge because you had this first section, which was way more like
strength and like physical, like the ability to balance and like hand eye coordination.
but then you got like a couple puzzle challenges
that are like the great equalizer
and so it allowed not just like a Tiff
and Joe or like a Jonathan
well I guess Jonathan and Christian
like it allowed not just a strong team
to run away with it like the other players
were giving Tiff and Joe a run for their money
and I just I mean this is just how I feel about any sporting event
like I want overtime I want it close
and we got that which was great
Can't sleep on Rick and Aubrey though.
They're sleeping good in the challenges.
I mean, but I do agree with you.
It was a good challenge.
It had a lot of components.
I'm curious for you guys thinking about the breaking into pairs aspect of it all.
If you were on that beach in their shoes, would you have any initial expectations of like,
who should I be trying to pair up with?
Because sometimes we see you got to go against your pair.
Sometimes you win as a pair.
Obviously, we've never seen you've never seen you.
vote out a pair, but would that be something that runs through your mind if when you're hit with
this twist, knowing that it's season 50 and we're voting out, you know, a lot of times multiple
people at once?
I think I would have gone with someone physical.
I think I would have just automatically paired myself with a man that's tall.
Surprise.
Okay.
That looked like he could manhandle me if need be.
You don't
pin me down
and I just scream for help
and you know
I say ah
and they don't let me go
until I say green apples
and that's a safe word
and then I say take it back
and then they just
you know
and so guys
would you rather have been paired
with Jonathan
Ozzy
or
Risgod
or Joe
or Joe
I think.
Do we have their heights anywhere?
Do we have their heights to race anywhere?
Jonathan is 6-6, Ozzy 5-10, Joe 5-9.
Well, I think because I've had-
Joe 5-9.
No, it's Jonathan 6-2, Riz got 6-1, Joe 6-feet, and Ozzy's 5-10.
Well, just because it's the Riz, I'm a pass on the Riz.
Okay.
I don't really want nothing to do with the cloth.
So I'm a pass on Jonathan.
I've been pinned down by Ozzie.
So, you know, I always want to see what.
I always want to see what a fire hose look like.
I just might let Joe squirt me in the face.
Bryce, he's our friend.
I got to say it.
Oh, my God.
Bryce is going to be in the background that's new Tyler Perry show.
Help, help.
It's a fire.
It's like gasoline in his hand.
Lord of Jesus.
It's a joke.
Come put me out.
What about you guys?
What would have your initial thought on, like, who you would want to pair up with me?
I would go for, like, challenge strength.
I feel pretty good about puzzles.
so I would go for physical strength
and like maybe throwing
because I feel like that's where I'm a little weaker
but I would not at all have a thought of like
oh shit I could maybe
like this could maybe come back and bite me in the ass
because we're going to be voting.
Well time out Sophie asked
because what we're not going to do here
on the Purple Pants podcast is
we don't downplay our abilities bitch.
Okay, we sneak you on 49 Miss Mammas.
Okay.
talk about a physical beast.
Your nails might give my nails some competition,
but you were in the paint, Sophie.
You were a puzzle beast.
You were clearly thinking beyond the realm,
and you were absolutely physical.
So what we're not going to do today
is act like you're not a physical beast.
You know, I will take, I'll take it.
I'll take it all.
Because I, yeah, like, I would have been up there, like, absolutely not.
This is, I'm not doing anybody any favors.
I'm trying to win.
And I would try to find someone who is as good in challenges as I am.
Because, yeah, I would want to win that spaghetti.
That's a reward that I will.
I would have been excited for.
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
On Ghost Island, we had a challenge where we were split into twos.
And this was final six or seven or something like that.
And I don't know if we drew rocks for the first person,
but then we had to pick our partners.
And I ended up with Dom, my ally, my road dog, a strong competitor.
Very strong, stronger than you.
Smarter, more connected.
Should have won.
So I end up with a closer friend to me than Bryce Isaiah.
and a much better survivor player than Bryce Isaiah,
Dom, and someone who made it about seven times.
Anyway, me and Dom, we were locked in,
and it was great to compete with someone
that is like really good at challenges.
So like you said, Sophie, you want someone that's like a dog,
Dom and I were locked in.
And it helped.
Two things.
We won that challenge, Bryce.
Okay.
two things.
When Christian was getting the boards
and he's like, middle, little, middle,
John says, speaking!
And Christian's like, middle little big.
And then Christian's like, I mean, medium middle big.
And John says like, you gotta use smaller words for me.
That was a mess.
That was a mess to watch.
Super tiny.
I was like, oh damn.
Any bitty.
I would have me.
dirty.
I can't understand
two syllable words.
It's like minute,
micro small.
It did.
That was hilarious.
But I got to,
I got it.
So Tiffany and Joe one,
clap it up because they did the damn thing.
Now listen,
we love Joe.
Uh-oh.
On this podcast,
but I got to get in Joe's ass this episode.
Sofi,
you are.
work a corporate job, correct?
I do. Unfortunately,
one of those.
As do I, so I get it.
And if your manager
send you a message on teams and says,
hey, Sophie, how are you? How would you respond?
What do you want?
Not actually, but like...
Give me the professional version.
Good morning, Sophie. How are you?
Yeah. I'd be like, doing well.
like what's like essentially doing well how are you all like what can I do for you okay good now let's say
us a Friday night we six white claws in and your girlfriend like girl what's you doing how would you
respond and be like yeah what are we about to get up to let me know what are you up to
okay I'm so happy you brought that up because when Joe was talking to Tiff
I don't know if that was Joe.
I felt like that was
manager, Joe.
Joe, Joe,
Joe was like,
yo, yo,
yo,
what's up,
Tiff?
Where you been at?
Yo!
You try to leak the night?
Yo, I wrote your name down,
but my bad.
My bad,
yo,
what's up?
You the birthday.
Yo, no,
no, no, Tiff, you did that.
You the birthday.
I said.
That Tyler Perry,
I said, what did Jiminy Crickers is going on?
Then he over there would coach like, gee, pal Jiffy, how are you doing today, Ben?
What's going on?
I said the switch up is crazy.
This was not the Joe who spoke to Eva.
He did not talk to Eva that way, that's for sure.
Joe was like, I've been suppressed for two.
straight seasons tip, we got to just hang out.
That's why they locked in so fast.
That was a master class
in what we call code switching. I'll tell you that.
Yeah. We was in Boston.
I thought Joe said, what's up?
I said, now, wait a minute.
What is going on?
Yes.
Joe said in the club, we all friends.
in the reward we all fail okay
I said okay Joe
I see you
and it's interesting because again
when they are when they in the club
Joe's like we locked in
and I thought that was huge coming from Joe
like honor and integrity
and you can lock in with and I'm like
whoa Joe was weaving him
Joe is weaving himself into a web now that I like.
But I'm like, it will be interesting to see how if it is tested,
how he'll explain himself or get out of it.
Because I'm like, you just locked in over some spaghetti.
Like, you was like, dog, we're in.
I was happy, though, to find, like, I, like, this is the, like,
we want Joe to be, yeah, get, getting messy, like,
making friends with other people, don't just stick with the cloth alliance.
That's so boring.
And so I was like, yes, flip on them, hang out with Tiff, like blindside them.
Don't see, like, I would love for Joe to move into the middle.
Like, shake it up.
Sophie, you know Joe is not going to flip on them, though.
But, like, did he voted for coach?
Did he vote for coach?
Can I say, oh, I maybe I read Dalton Ross's interview.
today with coach
and you know what he said about Joe's vote?
He said
Joe only wrote Chrissy
and they made Joe
go back into the booth
and they forced him to write
coach. Well, Joe knew what he was
doing, I mean.
It was like, I got to, wait,
we're voting two people out.
I was fine, though, for the woman,
but I was
Oh.
Okay, that's crazy though.
Did he go to his seat and have to go back?
He must be like, who wrote this?
Joe was like, me.
Oh.
Yes.
Okay, so he might not.
Yeah.
Forced to flip.
It's a good.
It's good for him to make these inroads with Tiff and stuff.
piece things up the night before,
but I don't want them to paint himself in a corner where it's like,
now you got allies all over the place.
And now it's like,
now we're going to really test your gangster, Joe.
We're really going to see what it is.
And I want to see it.
Yeah, it's impossible to play this game with,
like,
well with actual honor and integrity because you want to a lot,
if you want to have relationships with people,
you're going to find yourself,
yourself in tricky situations where you have to, like,
pick aside.
And there's nothing really wrong.
Like, you know, there's nothing wrong with that.
That's the game.
I really thought this was a good episode for Joe for that reason.
And I like that.
And I think especially the circumstances that occurred at tribal gave Joe a good out to actually make that move.
Now, I don't know if I love this information of now imagining him having to be like, yeah, I voted for them.
At the firehouse, you only got to vote for one person.
And then I'm just imagining he had to go back up and like, right coach.
And then coach was like, man, what's the?
He probably heard his, that might have heard his rep a little bit.
But I did like that he was able to like, I mean, I'm impressed that Joe was able to vote for coach and Chrissy.
The other thing, though, is there is a part of me is wondering if he has the excuse of like, yo, it was just Tiff and I on this, like, date essentially.
Like, what did you want me to do?
Like, I couldn't, we couldn't sit there in silence.
Like, I had to give her something.
So I feel like he could also fully flip and go back to the cloth and be like, that didn't mean anything.
It was just, yeah, it was just a one-night.
stand now I'm back back to my cloth people and and the whole idol situation also like I said gives
them a little bit more leeway to be like well I couldn't vote for them like who else right was I
really going to vote for it right these were kind of written in the stars at that point it was interesting
just quick because we got to talk about the queen of course I'm crying just to see the arc of
seri and like Wendell has said multiple times throughout this podcast sofia is that like he really
feels like this season we are sending
these legends off, right?
Like this will probably be the last time that we
see them and so we get these arcs
of these players.
And so to see Sarri out there
them showing her journey
and her just seeing
Surrey break down and cry. I'm in
Boston. I felt like
Jack. I was in the corner
under a speaker and I was crying
because I was like, oh, like just to see
Ceri struggle, but then just to see her
overcome it doesn't really
much to the episode, but again,
just love paying homage
to the queen that is
Sarie and just of her story
and journey and just
being tested time and time again.
Also, this is the first time I think I saw
I think this is the first time Saris ever had
like individual immunity
as in this episode she was
you know, she didn't win no challenge but she was safe
which is kind of wild.
Yeah. But I think it's more of a testament to
how she maneuvers, you know what I mean?
Right. Right. Like her style of play.
I do agree with you, Wendell that it does seem this 50 is like,
like we had that beautiful episode about Colby and now we have this episode about Surrey.
And I feel like this is what like I wanted from Survivor 50.
Like I did not need the cameos of celebs, but I,
yeah, I wanted a celebration of these players.
And it's also just helpful now as a fan,
but also somebody who's played to get to peek inside their mind.
Like, because when you're at home,
you're like, why the hell would you keep coming back?
Zaree, you have done it all.
Like, you can't, like, what else do you want to gain from this, like,
incredibly difficult and taxing game?
And so it's also, I feel like this episode really let us see why fans love Survivor.
And then also why the players love Survivor,
because you get to see what people are made of when they're fully stripped down.
And Bryce, yo, I was with you.
I was like, I was crying.
I was thinking about it like this morning.
of yeah, just all, yeah, what I got out of Survivor plane is that you get to see, yeah, without anything else, what you're made of.
And in this day and age, you don't get to do that a lot.
Absolutely.
It's just amazing to see the Queen Savory and them just showing her love.
Now, I do want to pivot to my man Ozzy, because Ozzy is funny where they're trying to figure out where we're voting.
And I also, I want to know if anyone picked up on this with the Riz God, right?
Where the Riz God, Ceres out finding the bird coconut.
And now it's Rizzo and Ozzie.
And we know Ozzy has, we've seen improvement in his game, but Ozzy still shows us that he's like, listen, I'm just, I climb the trees.
I do the things.
This social game is new to me, right?
Like, it almost is like Ozzy should play with the cloth, right?
But Ozzy, he with the people.
And so now they're like, he's with Rizzo.
He's like, who do you think, who you think?
And it's interesting to hear Rizzo say Aubrey or D Evans, right?
Like for me, that's like, see, y'all keep thinking Riz's.
And it's like, I really believe he planted that seed because Riz is locked in.
Riz ain't no dummy.
Riz know that's not what Ceree would do.
And Ozzy's like, yeah, man, you're so right.
Like, that's, yeah, that's what Cere would do.
Two seconds later, Sarie back, like,
What's up? I got to vote what we doing.
They're like, Sarri, this is what's happening.
Sarri, like, yeah, nah, we got to get coaching,
Chrissy.
When are we going to be able to break this cloth up here?
And Ozzy's like, geez.
Yeah.
I thought I've been working with you long enough.
I was going to roll.
I was going to vote Rick and Aubrey.
And we don't see that conversation with Surrey and Riz guy.
And I really feel like the Riz tried to pull a fast.
And I'm not mad at it because I think
Chris sees what's up.
No, I, yeah, a few
great things that. A, I mean,
Ozzy's confessional might be like
an all-time or some three myth
testament of being like, man, I'm
so glad Surrey came back or else
I would have made the worst mistake of my life.
Which, low-key,
probably might have been a better mood for Ozzie to stay
with the child.
I don't know if Ozzy's going to fit in very well
with Rick Devin's Aubrey of it all.
But I do agree.
Here's the thing. The cloth, it's a big, it's a big faction.
And, but I think putting myself in Rizzo's mind a little bit here as sort of the swing position,
there's like five cloth members. You're at 13. If you knock out of Devin's and
Aubrey here, you're at 11. And then I think everybody knows the six of us remaining,
now we have to target that group. And Rizzo's also still in with that group a little bit.
I think that puts him in a prime position.
Whereas now, yeah, you knock out a lot of that.
You take the wind out of their sales a little bit.
But the game is now a little bit more wide open,
which can be good and bad.
But I do think Rizzo's path, I think it's thinking was right.
Because I think if you take out Evans and Aubrey,
the path the next few votes becomes a lot more clear.
And you've still got, like, coach trust Rizzo.
You know what I mean?
So, but Ceri obviously came in and was like,
no, we're not doing that.
And they were like, okay.
It was like the teacher was a what, like they had a sub and they were all like fucking around.
And then the teacher came back and they were like, oh, all right.
Straighten up.
It was so funny.
One time's over.
We got to stop having that.
Yeah.
And obviously we know the votes are going all over the place and we're at tribal.
And I'm speechless because I know, I knew the moment was coming for cousin.
Ricky to get the idol, right?
I didn't know how it was going to be, what it was going to be like.
But dare I say, bitch, it was better than I thought.
And you could tell cousin Ricky had practiced this because he was like, well,
I had something I needed to get and I couldn't get it.
Boom, just tore the whole setup.
And it's funny because there's this article of Jeff Pope saying like they've never put
anything at tribal and they probably won't.
And one of the reasons is that Jeff was like,
we cut it down to 26 days.
We're cutting money.
And we were to put stuff at tribal,
they would tear it up.
And so we don't do that.
And they cut to Ricky just tearing it up.
But that moment of just Ricky doing that,
it brought joy to my life.
I felt like the Riz God,
seeing that.
It was awesome.
my thoughts
Oh go ahead
Sophie you first
I was just going to say
like in terms of fake idols
that was the most brilliant
because like
just walking to tribal
and like holding it is not
like that's not gonna cut it anymore
like this was just like a masterful way
to plant a fake idol
because you had the added step
of like oh I haven't been able to get it yet
and so I loved that it was hidden
that tribal and he didn't just pretend
to have a fake idol
the only thing I'll say, I agree, the only thing I end in Boston when we were watching this,
because I wasn't so locked in the whole episode, when this part happened, I was, my jaw was on the
floor.
I was like, wow, it's happening.
The only thing I'll say is, I wish he would have looked for it a little longer.
He went right to the spot, pulled a few things out, and got it.
I wish he would have been searching all around that.
I remember when he's at war, Adam Klein is pulling the damn podium.
him and pulling it and pulling it and pulling it.
And we're just like,
I wish,
I wish Rick did some more theatrical.
Yeah.
Be lying to it.
That's the only thing.
It did seem a little bit performative in a way.
But that is also just Rick.
So I see why people,
like if you're sitting there and you don't have all this information like we do as
viewers,
I think you just kind of believe that it's an idol.
And he handled everything else so well too because Stephanie,
I mean,
I don't know.
Like, why don't we just?
asked me to show it, which
I mean, I guess it's like a good, a valid question
to see what he says, but it's like, Rick
was totally right, like, why would I show
it to you? Because if it was a real one, I'd be like,
I'm not going to show it. If you can go ahead
and vote for me and I'll play it and you can go home.
Like, I don't care, you know, so
I think he played it super well in that
sense too, and especially
being able to like cover him and
Aubrey and just totally put everybody off
of that.
Listen,
Listen, Stephanie and I might have opposing view.
But baby, when she was talking to the people and saying,
we should make him show it.
If I am in that position, bitch, I'm Stephanie.
Well, first of all, I'm not Stephanie.
I'm being pull it out.
Let me see it.
Let me see the print.
Let me clock the print because you know they're doing that on TikTok now.
Let me see it.
But when Stephanie was demanding Christian to be like,
and you should do it.
Tell him.
Christian was like, hey, wait, man, man, man, man, my name is Bennett,
and I sure damnly ain't in it.
He said, I don't want anything to do it this.
Also, you know, but I get Stephanie being, like,
I think the idea is right.
But then A, why, like, if you have any semblance of observational skills,
you'd understand Christian and devons are closed.
Like, why would you never do that?
And then, yeah.
Stephanie doesn't seem like genuinely confused
when she's like, wait, why won't you show us?
She's like genuinely wouldn't understand.
I was like, Stephanie, come on.
It's obvious.
Like, I don't know.
You know.
But I'm not mad at that though because it's like, again,
if I put myself in Stephanie's shoes, right?
Like I, first of all, it's the cloth.
We only go one way.
This is the only vote we got.
Like, she's trying to disprove it.
And like, I got it.
Like, because him not letting us see the print,
That photo you sent ain't you.
That photo you said ain't you.
Let me see it.
And so she was trying to sow the distrust,
like let's still put votes on him.
So I wasn't mad at the approach,
but it sure was crazy.
And I loved how Rick Devin's clocked it during tribal
when he was like,
uh,
what people are saying clearly ain't true.
Because look at all of this movement.
if we if y'all are doing what y'all said y'all were going to do honor and integrity y'all
you should be doing this movement and jonathan's going to be like well yeah you're showing your
true colors too mr rick i feel like yeah even if like even if the idol didn't end up working
and you know scaring them away from voting rick and aubrey it what it did is it showed exactly where
the vote was going to go and showed exactly who was on which side and that was brilliant.
Like it's a, it's like a similar tactic to when people like play their shot in the dark and
then like look around like, oh, are you pissed that I tried this? Like it was great and I love,
love me a live tribal and yeah, we got a we got a live one. Do we? So I mean, I loved everything
about what Rick did. Even at the end when he tells Aubrey like, I couldn't play it at the same
tribal I found it. But what I'll throw out to you.
And I don't know the right answer to this, but is he, is it dangerous now that he has,
everyone thinks he has an idol that isn't actually real?
Because now he sort of committed himself to playing this like idol bluff game without an actual idol.
Is there a world he should have just like played it at tribal and then even been like,
oh my God, what?
It's like fake or even just been like, oh, got you guys.
Like, sorry.
Because now he's stuck with it.
Like people might target him and he doesn't have a real idol.
he has idol-finder yeah
but also he's committed himself to his lie
even to like Aubrey
like he's gonna say he has an idol
I think that puts him in a great position
now I feel like people are going to like
want to come to him
to figure out where we're going to vote
because we can't vote for you now
it can be either way
like with like with Rizzo last season
but I'm also worried like
what if Aubrey and Emily are like
oh can I see the idol
like we're allies can I see the idol
and he's like nah
that I'd be like
What do you, like, what kind of?
Well, then he could admit to it.
I feel like it's better that he didn't.
Like, because now there's, he's extending the life.
He's getting a little bit more optionality by not just having Jeff Burnett.
Like now he could maybe stretch it out.
And because he finds so many idols, I feel like people, every tribal are always like,
well, he's Rick.
He might have something.
So I kind of think that him holding on to it and not playing it is better long term
because he's getting a little bit more use out of it.
Yeah, I don't know what the,
alternative necessarily would have been.
Like, I don't think he should have, like, pulled out the rock that was in there.
I mean, like, gotcha guys.
Like that could all just put a match and forget on his back.
But, and I think it was all worth it to survive this tribal, obviously.
But now he is in a tricky position, too, just given that he, everyone thinks he's got
an idol.
It's not even real, which could help it could hurt.
Yeah.
I think the best part, I mean, there were just so many best parts, but in the heat of the
moment, when everybody is scrambling and for, uh,
and for
and for
the Riz God
in the heat of the moment
to be like
geez Mr. Rick
that was the best move ever
I can't believe
I got to watch that
oh my God
okay I'll talk to you later
like for the Riz God
to Riz in the middle of that
and then for Jeff to even clock it
I thought that was
hilarious and that's again
say what you want.
The Riz God can shart in my bed.
You can never make me hate the Riz God.
Because I just love the deviousness, the, like the purity, and like the love for the game.
But like he reminds me of a Jack Axis.
Check this.
What if Riz continues to fanboy like that?
This man in the middle of tribal jumps up.
That's number six.
jumps back down.
What if Riz does this and sits at the end
and locks in like, that was my shtick?
These are my moves.
I'm a fan.
It's true.
I am a fan, but I...
Yeah, lean into it.
No, I think it's been a great strategy.
I just, I think we touched on a little bit earlier.
I mean, I think it's great.
If you can lay it out, he's playing a fantastic game.
I do worry less about how he's doing it and more about like,
Now you have a coach and a Chrissy on the jury that are sort of going to be like he's just.
He said you were my hero.
He seems like he might actually be having some good foundation.
He's just sort of, he's almost like little broing himself.
And when you do that, people might not look at you with like that respect.
Not to say he doesn't deserve it.
But I think it's intentional.
Like I think he's doing that.
Like he's intentionally like sunning himself so that nobody is taking him seriously now.
And then come final travel counsel, he's going to be like,
okay coach like yes love you dude but like you know that i was just i was just blown smoke up your
ass and it's working you ever see he's like top tier right now yeah but i just were i wonder
if at a final tribal would a coach would a chissy would a would a joe sit there and be like
oh yeah you were blowing smoke up my ass that actually was a great job right depending on who's next to
And it's like Kaiser Sosa or Kaiser Sosa, you know that movie with Kevin Spacey.
Yeah.
We've got the limit.
Can you imagine him at Final Tribal, like, I can't believe that I'm here, guys.
It's been amazing.
But yo, let me just step in with trouble.
Day one.
It's like he's on a reward with Tiffany.
I was with you.
Right.
Like, if he switches up like that.
But my last thought is something what you said, Jack, I also think, because it's a Survivor 50, right?
And again, I never got this far, Sophie, so I never had to think like this.
But it is so interesting where it's the game of Survivor.
Like, you have to get to the end.
But also, it's like now with a coach and a Chrissy on the jury, this is going to directly affect the winner now.
Right.
Like, and I'm so curious if we will see any of those conversations of like, hey, we got to get you out.
or like you don't have a chance because like,
because this is directly going to affect who our winner is.
D is going to see those two pull up to Ponderos and be like,
oh my God.
I know.
Poor D.
Can you imagine?
Like, hey, y'all.
Oh, my God.
I did.
You know, we kind of,
Wendell's got to go pick up when he,
it looks like.
But, you know, since he was moderating,
I didn't get to give my,
my top line thoughts.
on the twist.
And, you know, I feel like going into the episode with the previews and stuff,
I was a little worried that it was going to be like, oh, they're going to split the,
it's going to be split tribal, it's going to be whatever.
I thought this was a great twist.
Like, I thought that because we, my biggest great, and actually yesterday before the
episode, I was sort of in my mind thinking about like, where a survivor kind of started
to go wrong?
Because I felt like this season was starting, even 50 was starting to lose a little bit of steam.
And, you know, I was just like the thing about like, what's the formula that to get us back to like prime survivor?
But because with the blood moon, you know, Sophie, I said after that when we recap that episode, I was sort of like, they're labeling it as some like massive all time twist.
It's like the most basic thing of splitting into three groups of five and you're just like, okay, who are my two numbers?
Easy.
And with this, in my gripe with that, I think these twists, especially on a 50 should be things that.
facilitate like strategic innovation and like make the players really like scramble and
nobody knows what to expect and and the great players are going to be able to handle the
twist really well and like make the most of it and bad players might be like I don't know
how to grapple with whatever is getting thrown at me here and I thought this was like the perfect
example of that where nobody on this beach like really knows exactly what the right way to play
this is they don't know who they should duo up with because they don't even know the twist yet
So there's like strategic calculus in who you decide to pair up with.
And it just like opens things up.
And I thought I love that component about it.
It was also like actually a twist where you're voting out of duo and like we haven't actually seen that before.
And I also like that like everyone had their own vote.
You weren't like you could still play your own game.
But there was.
So I was just, I was definitely very enthusiastic about the twist, especially given, you know, you got to call the herd a little bit and get out two numbers.
This was a great way to do that.
I feel like, I'm so sorry.
Oh, sorry.
I was going to say, I feel like the hallmark of a good twist is when like you don't know what's going to happen.
Whereas like with the Blood Moon, you looked at those three groups and you're like, oh, it's obvious who's going home.
You know, like we know who's going home.
And it was like maybe a little bit of debate between Coach or Colby, but like because they were small groups.
And so I fully agree with you there that like the Blood Moon was just our normal, you know, mergatory split tribal, but just big.
because we have more players.
Whereas this, because we didn't, like,
there were a couple different pairs that you could have argued,
made good strategic sense to go home,
that were taking shots at all the different groups.
Like, they could have gone Devons, Aubrey.
They could have gone Coach Chrissy.
Or it could have been crazy.
They could have been like, let's sacrifice one from each Jonathan Christian.
Right.
And also, to your point, again, with the blood moon, for instance,
or even with the general complaint of like these smaller tribes
to start the season, not relevant on 50, but in the new era,
But it's literally, if you are on one of those blood moon tribes, you've got yourself,
you've got someone else who's one immunity, unless that happens to be you.
You literally have three options.
And it's very black and white.
And here, like you said, I think the mark of a good twist is like it creates this gray area
of choice where you don't know what the criteria is.
There's not like an obvious yes or no because here it is like you can take a big swing
at the other side or, you know, you can go for people in the middle.
or whatever.
And even taking a swing at the other side,
it's like, well, you might be in a duo
with someone who's like in that side.
And obviously you have your own vote,
but you still got to like figure out what there.
Yeah, you know, you don't want to necessarily be like in a pair with them
and then also betraying them.
You know, I think we saw Joe contend with that
with like his new found out line TIF.
So, yeah, I thought this one was really good.
I also thought what was great was the exile island with Surrey
where she could come back with a vote or not.
And I think that that could sway it even more.
Do y'all think if say Kyle didn't get evacuated,
do you think there would have been another pair
and the pair would have gone to exile?
I don't know.
I think there would have been no.
So I don't think there would have been exile.
And my one complaint with some of these twists like this
and it worked better this episode than with the Blood Moon.
I don't love like just sending people to exile.
They're automatically safe.
I do like that Surrey was able to come back
and participate in this vote.
I thought that was great.
Because my gripe with the Blood Moon too was like,
you've just like deleted.
Rizzo and Ozzy from the episode.
Like we don't see them actually make decisions.
They don't have any sway in the game.
They're not at risk.
And I felt sort of similar with Serigo and exile,
but obviously she was able to come back.
But I think I would have preferred
just like another duo
rather than the Surrey situation.
But I thought all things considered,
it was great.
And I'm also curious about just diving
a little bit more into her time on exile
and like that challenge
because we didn't really talk about it.
I guess to that,
like that my question with that is say you're over in your you're in serri's shoes and you've got
all these coconuts and it looked like there was a decent amount of time i thought i was going to be
a little bit faster but i'm guessing she probably had like two hours maybe maybe hour and a half
i don't know what would your first impression like your first instinct on how to handle that
challenge have been don't judge me but i mean i would have turned over a couple of coconuts
and then i would have been like shit i'm safe i just
lose my voted brown let them figure it out there's no blood on my hands and just come back
i feel like i actually would have first rather than turning them over tried to like just run through
and look like look at each side because i feel like i could get like a good amount of visibility
like I think in my brain I would be like survivor it wouldn't have been face down we know survivor like they're they want that shot yeah so I would have done it rather than picking them up just kind of walked through and then I think the other thing I would have done is I would have guessed that they probably wouldn't start right near where the like the thing is so I would have started kind of in the middle but and then I would have walked first and then if I couldn't have found it then started flipping stuff over yeah that was my instinct there was
like there's so many coconuts, you're not going to be able to flip everyone over.
So they're not going to hide it not facing you.
And so I was thinking about what's the best way to cover as much ground?
And it kind of brought me back to Christian and David Rysk Goliath with his, I think was
breath first search, like doing like a wide surge game.
And I was thinking, do you eat?
I don't know if it's better to like run sort of verticals and kind of like hit it on the way
out also see it on the way, but I was thinking you almost, you're either start in the middle
or you start in the outside and you do like a spiral. And so you're like going around the
circumference and you're like seeing everything in the middle from both sides as you're like
wrapping. Because then you're hitting every side. But you know, that also lends the possibility
where if you start on the outside and like maybe you miss it, you might not come back to it.
If it's, if it's on the outside. Yeah. I feel like there's some, there is a,
survivor nerd out there who knows the correct way to do this and they're going to be in the comments like
the correct way is like zigzag up down zamboni blah blah blah like i'm sure there's some like smart way to
do it girl i feel like i'm on the podcast with the survivor nerds because bitch i'm just walking around
and kicking random coconuts like i'm not even thinking all of that like that's so crazy i'm just
like flick yeah i get to chill here tonight yeah sick honestly there was a part of me that like you know like 24 is a lot
people. Like if I was three, I'd be like, like, thank God a night to myself.
Like get away from these kids. Yeah. For sure.
Although I do think being able to go to a tribal like that, obviously protected with a
vote. Very great time to have some influence. Absolutely.
Yeah. I mean, well, it's safe to say, uh, this is no Zach Brown, but the double,
double double low low high queue with a little bit of
a little bit of idle find it.
Survivor 50 is definitely picking back up and I mean I've been locked in
but I'm locked locked locked back in.
I was like yelling at my TV while I was watching.
We were back to that level of like, oh shit, which is how you want it.
You know?
Although I will say
You brought it up, Bryce
I think the double duo
could have used some word shopping.
Yeah, well, yeah.
It's just a duo.
Right.
It's not a double duo.
That duo is a duo.
It could have been like duo,
duo danger.
Yeah.
But other than that, it was a great.
Yeah.
I was surprised, though, that, you know,
like, I mean, it was kind of
it was another classic episode from Coach
with all of his shenanigans.
Even him sitting in the hammock, he's just generating content.
But I was sort of like, I was surprised knowing his name was out there that he, you know, obviously appeased Chrissy with her request.
But I still would have thought coach would have been out there, like trying to save himself knowing he was in trouble.
But maybe he just had, you know, maybe he just had the trust in the cloth.
Well, and that shows you you can't trust the cloth.
If I were Chrissy, I would be a little pissed off in the sense when they got voted out.
They're like, all right, Chrissy, see you later.
Boom.
Come here, coach.
It's been an honor to have you with us.
You, like, I was just like, well, damn, like, how y'all just shoot Chrissy off like that?
That pissed me off.
Like, not only did you make her go out first, but then you're not even going to give her, like, anything.
Like, Jeff, get the fuck out of here.
I hated that.
And you know, coach is going to be like,
Chrissy did get voted out right before me.
Like, I didn't make it farther.
Like, let's not play.
Order matters.
Order matters for prize money.
Order matters for, like,
status.
Like, is really Chrissy getting first?
To that point,
does this go down as like the first ever tied placement?
I don't know.
Because again,
hearing what Wendell said,
how Joe just wrote Chrissy's name down.
Like,
I really think Chrissy is the,
17th like it's is is de christie didn't coach
I mean I get like I guess but to me
placement wise that's the same place like
I don't think so I do they got voted out the same time
I know but like Jeff was like the third or 12th and
13th or 13th and 14th like he
he did not say like tie like he said this and then this
and when somebody gets medevac and we don't vote for the
third person they the next vote is the fourth person
Yeah, but they lasted literally more time.
But they, like, if someone gets mad at,
I'm on your side.
I just think CBS is not.
I think CBS is CBS at Chrissy.
Well, if I'm Chrissy, I'm for sure saying,
me and coach get the same prize money.
Right.
So that's to me.
I would love to hear from her.
Yeah.
I think she's had a lot of thoughts on those seasons.
Yeah.
As would I.
But it is safe to say, Sophie, it was a treat to have you with us.
This cannot be your last time ever.
Okay, we got to do this again.
Jack, as always, appreciate you moving your schedule and making things work.
And when DZ.
It's great to have you as always.
Yes.
And we'll be back next week covering episode nine.
This has been your Survivor News covering Survivor Season 50.
We're out.
See you later.
Thank you for joining us, Couthey.
Thank you.
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