RHAP: We Know Survivor - Purple Pants Podcast | Survivor News 51 Ep 3 Recap: “Suplex Me”

Episode Date: October 10, 2026

Purple Pants Podcast | Survivor News 51 Ep 3 Recap: “Suplex Me” Somebody call a doctor, because Survivor 51 is getting out of hand! Brice, Wendell, and Jack are back for another episode of Survivo...r News, and this week, the game is giving us everything from a questionable foot injury and an accidental mutiny to stolen advantages, shaky alliances, and a Tribal Council that left us blindsided! One player missed the boat, another couldn’t get a foot in the game, and somebody learned the hard way that loose lips sink ships! With the Open Era getting messier by the minute, the baby boys are breaking down all the chaos, strategy, and foolishness of Episode 3. At this point, the only thing certain is that nobody’s footing in this game is secure! Tickets and updates for Brice and Wen 51 events: https://briceandwenpresent.flite.city/ You can also watch along on Brice Izyah’s YouTube channel to watch us break it all down https://youtube.com/channel/UCFlglGPPamVHaNAb0tL_s7g LISTEN: Subscribe to the Purple Pants podcast feed  WATCH: Watch and subscribe to the podcast on YouTube SUPPORT: Become a RHAP Patron for bonus content, access to Facebook and Discord groups plus more great perks! Previously on the Purple Pants Podcast Feed: Purple Pants Podcast Archives

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's the purple pants. It's a purple pants. It's a purple pants podcast. You better get your headphones and listen up quick. It's the purple pants podcast. You let listening in public might make your stomach hurt. It's the purple pants podcast. She's trying to unwind.
Starting point is 00:00:16 You better get that box wine. It's a purple pants podcast. You're trying to get your snack. You better hurry right back, though. It's the purple pants. It's the purple pants. Hello, hello, and welcome back to Survivor News on the Purple Pants. Pants podcast. I serve as your humble and oh so gracious host, Bryce Isaiah, and I thank you so much for tuning in to this week's Survivor News. If you could be so kind to ensure you are subscribed to the Purple Pants podcast. We are available on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you find podcasts. The Purple Pants podcast awaits for you to subscribe. And as always with your Survivor News content, you can watch this audio podcast on video. Just head on down.
Starting point is 00:01:00 to YouTube type in Bryce Isaiah, click subscribe, give this video a thumbs up and let us know what you think about. Episodes 3, recap. The baby boys have reunited once again Jack Windle and myself and we are here to break down
Starting point is 00:01:16 all of episode 3. We're getting into the medical evacuation that was an infection that wasn't what we talk about at all. We talk about this advantage. We talk about going to the other tribes. The challenge. And of course you know the baby boy's got to break it down only the way we can do it.
Starting point is 00:01:34 So let's get in to this week's Survivor News. Survivor News. Survivor News. Survivor News. Survivor News. Survivor News. Survivor News. Survivor News.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Survivor News. Survivor News. Survivor News. Divider News. Dot, dot, dot. What is up, guys? Welcome back to another episode of the one and only Survivor News recapping episode 3 of season 51, aka season 50 fun. I am here with the baby boys.
Starting point is 00:02:19 First and foremost, you may know him as the first merge boot of Winners at War or even the winner of Survivor Ghost Island. You might know him from Beach Cabana Royale. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. You might know him from season two. of Destination X coming what next year on Peacock
Starting point is 00:02:40 coming in the spring on NBC and Peacock let's get it right let's go. Coming in the spring NBC Peacock welcome to the NBC family Wendell yeah we we got the one and only Wendell Holland
Starting point is 00:02:55 Thank you very much Jackery Atkins Wendell Holland is reporting live from underneath a bunk bed right now in Classic window. And, you know, like my godson's room, basically. So, you know, we got a lot going on under here.
Starting point is 00:03:17 But I'm under the bunk bed, chilling at the desk, ready to go. And as always, we've got your number one baby boy. Was it the winner of Survivor Kagayan? Bryce, Isaiah, Bryce, how are we doing? Hello, Jack. It's great to be here. I feel like my head is spinning, but I'm good. I'm glad to be here.
Starting point is 00:03:50 The britches are soaked. Oh, my God. Yeah, I'm excited. This episode was one that we got to talk about. 100%. What's, you sound a little different. for tape, right? So you still a little woozy from the Atlanta watch party? Oh, the Atlanta watch party and everything you could ever want, you know, your words have power,
Starting point is 00:04:16 kids. You talk issue on a podcast, make sure you write yourself a check. A suplex can cash, and I just want to say, I cash them checks. Cash them. Right. He's just talking like he needs a cigarette right now. I need something. No, but Atlanta was so much fun. The Halloween costume party, they showed out, Jack.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Like, there were some costumes that I was like, wait, what are you? And then there were some costumes that was like, whoa. What was the split between like survivor-related costumes and just regular Halloween costume? I'd say
Starting point is 00:05:00 I say 50% Survivor. I'd say 70%. Well, what were some of the standouts? We had a dark fader. We had a pro wrestler. We had a fish. We had Ursula. We had Richard Hatch.
Starting point is 00:05:21 We had Boston Rob. No, we had Atlanta Rob. And it was a Boston Robb outfit on a young lady with an Atlanta. hat. She's Atlanta Rob. And we pulled her up during the costume section during the survivor because there were various survivors, Christian Ubicki, you know, there was, you know, various survivors. Bryce looks at Atlanta Rob and without giving, because, you know, there'd be crowd participation like, hey, if you make the most noise, Bryce says, you played too many times, you're out.
Starting point is 00:05:57 and kicked Atlanta Rob out of the contest without even giving her a shot. Wow. Bryce was ruthless. And he was all the while, Bryce is standing on top of a ladder while judging this contest. But he was just waiting to get suplexed off the ladder.
Starting point is 00:06:18 I was trying to get subtle signs. Brady, you're in this one. I was trying to give subtle signs. We had Richard Hatch, a lady who designs costumes, designs, as she does, she makes clothing. She made what looked like a naked body on her, but of Richard Hatch's naked body. And it's like a body suit.
Starting point is 00:06:45 And she, like, stuck a tattoo, his tattoo from back season one on her. We had little Kim in the building, okay? Head to toe. pulled up. We had a pirate. We had Beyonce. We had Cisco. We had Brady's thumb.
Starting point is 00:07:10 We had a painter. We had someone who came in a t-shirt that said just the tip. And they glued a portion of a bleeding thumb to the shirt. Jack Wendell saying somebody. He's at that somebody's house right now. Talk about somebody. He was sitting underneath his son's bunk bag.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Talk about somebody, I don't know. They had a cool costume. It was Jim. Bryce Isaiah was in the building, too. What were your guys' costume? I like Bryce to answer that first. Well, I am one to be on theme. So I was an alien.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Mother. I had an alien inside of my belly Oh I'm still trying to figure out the dad But after this weekend I might have narrowed it down You had a firefighter
Starting point is 00:08:11 We had a fairy When what was your costume Bryce didn't have any costume on He's telling us that he was impregnated by an alien right now In Atlanta An alien Yeah Yeah, well, tell them what your costume was.
Starting point is 00:08:28 I was our good, good friend of the show, friend of the pod, Quintavius, Verdet. You didn't even have a cue skirt. On the traders. I had my cloak. I had my cue hat. And I had a whole lot of attitude. Sure. At least I had a costume, Bryce Isaiah.
Starting point is 00:08:50 You were impregated by an alien. That's so cool. We had a pro wrestler. We had a fairy from 51 and, and we had a firefighter. Okay. I was trying to light fires all over that venue in Atlanta for the firefighter to put it out. Okay. Ori from 51 pulled up.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Okay. Okay. Hey. Hey. Leave him alone. Hey. He didn't have a shirt on Jack. And so I thought it was one of them shirts that, like, have muscles on them.
Starting point is 00:09:28 So, you know, me, because I'm doing a costume, I'm judging the costumes. So I had to make sure it was real. Okay, Lori. It's not coming off. It's not coming off. We had a doctor in the building. He had a thesoscope. More or less.
Starting point is 00:09:48 A thesoscope. Okay. Oh, so Bryce stole the thethoscope. Soscope. Tell them what you did, Bryce. Listen, when you become a doctor, you have to take a, you take a pragmatic oath. You take an oath to protect and to serve. And listen. Oh, that's a ha.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Oh, no, wait. Sorry, I just had a flashback real quick. So you do take a oath to protect and serve Jack and let me just tell you let me just tell you Wendell Jerome Holland did Dr.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Bryce Isaiah not revive a patient we'll talk about that late but listen I had to make sure Brady was okay I had to check the thumb on three of them and I had to make sure that
Starting point is 00:10:49 and I had to make sure or, you know, I had to firefighters, I just make sure. I'm reporting. I report back. You took an oath, I mean. The pragmatic oath to protect and serve.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Jonathan was there. I was going to say this is a Jonathan Young event, right? Yes. How did that go? He did great. He was really well. And I do have to report to the posse.
Starting point is 00:11:21 You know, back in the day we had sent him and let him know that. You know, I was the latter. And during that time period, you know, Mr. Jonathan, he didn't really understand, okay? He might have turned the comments off. He might have blocked us for a little bit, but... What you mean us? Us?
Starting point is 00:11:40 He ain't blocked me. He damn sure they didn't block Jack. He blocked us for a minute. He blocked us for a minute. And I was minding my business. Like, I was keeping it very cool with Jonathan. and say, hey, how you doing, Jonathan? Good to see you. John, they gave me a hug. He said, brother.
Starting point is 00:11:56 I said, okay. I'm minding my business, Jack, taking care of my pragmatic old. All of a sudden, I hear something scratching across the floor. So I turn around. What is that? Is Jonathan standing next to the ladder talk about, is this the ladder you was talking about?
Starting point is 00:12:16 Bryce, I said, no, Jonathan! Hey, now. So Atlanta was super, super fun. We are in orbit right now with Bryce and Win 51. We are super Jack. Too bad you are not at the University of Chicago anymore because next week, Chicago is going up. Tickets is almost sold out.
Starting point is 00:12:43 First of all, Chicago don't play about Bryce and Win. Okay. Wendell and I, we say we're from Philadelphia, but for real, for real, we might be from the shy because Chicago doesn't play. And we've got some, we got some four special guests coming. Tickets are almost sold out. If you want to get in on the Chicago
Starting point is 00:12:58 Fun, click the link in our bio. From there, we'll be in D.C. But that's not it. Okay, we got Sophie and Sam October 21st. They will be in the Nash of theville. Tickets are available. Mr. Jonathan kicked off his tour
Starting point is 00:13:16 with us in Atlanta, November 4th. He'll be in Knoxville, and Knoxville is turning up and turn it out. So we just let y'all know it's a lot going on. San Francisco, November 11, Philadelphia, Black Friday Eve, Eve. We're in Philly, Boston, New York. It's a lot going on. So we just want you all to know,
Starting point is 00:13:41 Jonathan will be in Nashville for the finale. He'll be in Dallas. So get in all this fun. But listen, we got a lot to get into. I mean, Bryce, I'm so excited for all these Nashville events. I'm in Nashville right now. You stay a couple of days, Jack. Yeah, I might hang out for a while until November 4th.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Mr. Jonathan would love to see you. Now, again, I just putting these up there so y'all can see. But needless to say, I thought we weren't supposed to post AI, Bryce. This ain't AI. Let me tell you. Okay. The AI man is going to get in your comments and get you. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:14:24 This is not AI. I met Brody. I was trying to be nice and polite. Brody woke up to me and said, where do you want to be a suplex? I said, oh, my God. Sir, what's going on? Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Brady said, put your leg on my thigh. I said, you don't got to tell me twice. Now, I don't know what happened. A lot went on. But, I mean, let me just tell you all this, Pasi. Brady is, you know, y'all think Jonathan is big. Brady is a monster. He picked me, he picked my petite body up.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Okay, Brady said, oh, I didn't know you was so curvy. I said, oh, it is. Okay. I don't know if y'all can see in that second photo. see that hourglass, okay? Where's your costume, Bryce? This is how we got to the alien. That was before you got the costume.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Yes, that was before. Is that Noah? Say hi to Bryce. Hi, Bryce. Hi, Noah. So, yeah, had time with Brady. Also, Alexis was there. Super love Alexis.
Starting point is 00:15:49 She watches and listens to the show. Alexis was cracking me up. Alexis was like, hey, like, who's the white guy on your show? I said, that's Jack. She was like, but where do I know her from? I said, girl, surviving news. She was like, but how do you know him?
Starting point is 00:16:06 And I don't know why, Jack, when people ask me, how do I know you? You know what story I'll go into. So that's that I'm good. I said, well, girl, listen, Mia Winder was on a flight. Our stomachs was rumbling. We ran into the back.
Starting point is 00:16:21 from we came out. Jack was right there and he ain't never left. Yeah. We were all on the flight together for reference. It wasn't a random Vita. What's up, Alexis? I mean, she was funny last night. She needs a little more airtime, I think, but when she came in and just body body checked someone in the challenge. Yes. Oh, listen. We back to getting physical, but we can get to episode and also just, okay, and Ori was there? We know.
Starting point is 00:16:50 I'm just saying. You already told us, Bryce. I just, there is an illustrious list of Survivor players that I have an interesting type of relationship with that like the only language we speak is shit talking.
Starting point is 00:17:06 And some of the people that are in are Joe Mena, the Wardog, Jeremy Collins, Q, Charlie, where it's like the only way we communicate is me talk shit. And let me just tell you, I have inducted
Starting point is 00:17:21 in ori into that shit talking alliance because the way I was talking shit to
Starting point is 00:17:32 or you would think I'm a professional football player even though I'm a professional wrestler but listen all right
Starting point is 00:17:39 that's enough wait you mentioned the war dog I have a funny little war dog anecdote from this week I was on the way to go watch
Starting point is 00:17:47 the episode in New York with a bunch with a good amount of survivors, namely Brandon Donnellin, my guy. Also, random, the bar was a survivor bar and a Jacksonville Jaguars bar, which are like my two favorite things.
Starting point is 00:18:04 So shout to St. Pat's in Midtown. But I'm on my phone, and I get a DM from the Wardaw, which I look back the first time he's messaged me in six years. And I had posted a story the night before about this movie called The Prestige that I just really like. it. And Ward Dog hit me. He was like, where can I watch the movie you liked? I was like,
Starting point is 00:18:28 Netflix. And then he just gave it a thumbs up. I was like, that's what he, you hit me up about that. Did he say Captain Jack? No. You just said like, where did you watch that movie? I'm like, you could Google that. I mean, sounds about right. Always good to hear from the War Dog, though. Well, for our watches and listening, it's 1643. Jack, where you want to start? because we got a lot to get in. Well, I feel like this episode sort of mandates jumping around a little bit because so much went down. All I have to say is first and foremost, last week, I guess I might have had my worst, my worst take of all time. Because last week I said Pat has given winner aura, like, I think Pat's going to make a deep run.
Starting point is 00:19:18 If she doesn't, I'm going to be shocked. You look. Lo of behold, I was, couldn't have been farther off. Now, in Pat's defense, and I guess to some extent mine, but this is really just a shout to Pat, this is, you know, that's, I think she got extremely unlucky. I mean, that's survivor, especially in the open era with the uncertainty. But you think about, you know, it's a tribe of 11 now because Carter came over.
Starting point is 00:19:49 had Carter not like had Carter not been the one to get randomly selected to come over to Toka and then had he not literally missed the boat to go back then I think Pat was in a great spot because you're in a what was a tribe
Starting point is 00:20:05 of 10 with a really solid five person alliance I don't think in that scenario that Lewis or whoever else is really going to like go to war to take her out so all things consider I just think really unlucky for Pat but I think
Starting point is 00:20:19 think that's what I'm liking about the open era is the unpredictability. It kind of reminds me way back when these bigger tribes allow for a lot more maneuvering. And these early votes are sort of reminiscent of like merge votes where there's a lot of different options. And a tribe of six, I don't think you see a pack go out very often because she's going to lock down her crew. But this allows a little bit more flexibility where some good players can get taken out. Every third boot is unlucky.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Okay. tragic things happen, but also, one, formally welcoming Pat into the third boot celebration club. We love her. But in my opinion, Pat caught a stray. And it's a stray with we haven't seen this early in Survivor in a long time because we haven't had such large numbers. Pat is a casualty of a cocky, strong alliance, right?
Starting point is 00:21:19 where Pat attached herself to very strong people, Devin, Jelly, Brady. And when you have this alliance of five on an 11-person tribe, right, we see that a lot of people are like they don't want to take shots at the big, big dogs because they're like, we don't want holy hell to break out. But when you are in the big alliance and you're not necessarily the big alliance, then it's like, well, how can we weaken the alliance? And so, like, I feel like she definitely is a casualty of that.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Nothing against her gameplay was like, you know, connection to the connection kind of got patted out. And so sad to see her go, but, like, absolutely love the fact that this move was even possible and not even seen by the major alliance. I mean, the fact, episode three, we're getting a six to five. blind side was like great great television but it was crazy because we see I mean Devin was stumbling a lot this episode and it's like we the target somehow isn't on Devin it's on Pat who from what we've seen hasn't really made any any missteps but I guess that's also a thing about these these two tribes there's the bigger the bigger
Starting point is 00:22:40 groups you know that these and a lot of this cast has had a little bit more of like an old school way of thinking in some senses and So maybe they're like, we need a Devin and a Brady for challenges. So that also changes like the criteria. But yeah, Pat definitely caught astray, which was unfortunate. But like that's sometimes how it goes down in the game. And I mentioned this a bunch of times like on this podcast over the last however many seasons. But even thinking about Coast Island when Dom and I got blindsided and Morgan went out, this was early.
Starting point is 00:23:14 This was like within the first couple episodes, they could have. picked off any of us in our alliance, but they picked off Morgan. And that was that shock to our system that woke me and Dom up. And I think this is one of these shocks to this alliance, which has been feeling itself and looking good, like, hey, welcome to Survivor. Y'all aren't impenetrable. Like, things can happen. Hear me out.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Because, my, I love this and I love the alliance. But this isn't their first shock. Oh. And this, for me, it's like when we lost, when we lost. when we lost Alia, right? Like, this was another one with like,
Starting point is 00:23:51 and my, I'm so nervous for my brother, Dev. Like, he is, you're too perfect, sir. Like,
Starting point is 00:23:59 you are absolutely too perfect. Like, figure out a flaw and fake it because. He's not too perfect in this game. Well, I think he,
Starting point is 00:24:07 he is perfect in the game and that's what makes him imperfect because we're not. But this is the second time Devin has been kind of like Rush rushed out with the Alea vote, right? They didn't want her to go.
Starting point is 00:24:22 And he was somewhat, he had the majority. And now here we are again. He's somewhat in the majority. And it's like, it looked like he was very close to Pat. And so it's like, I hope he recognizes these two warning shots and like really diversify the catalog. You've escaped two warning shots. Now, like, you're so blessed. tighten it up now, brother.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Like, we, Devin, we want you to win. You know what I'm saying? Like, tight it up. Yeah, he did say during the episode, he was like, if I'm in the wrong side of the vote again, I might have to think about, like, changing my gameplay up. So, we're either getting set up
Starting point is 00:25:01 for like a Devin turnaround arc or, you know, if he continues on the path he's on, it could get dicey. Radical honesty. But he is connected. I think his connections will help him out. But eventually, he will shine bright like a diamond.
Starting point is 00:25:24 And to us, he already is. Now, we jumping around. Let's jump on down to the emergency medvac we had with Rob. Because we need to talk about Rob here because I don't know what the hell is going on with Rob and this man, okay, he got the tribal council
Starting point is 00:25:53 infection, which it happens. You know, sometimes you go to tribal council that infection starts to injection and he got back. He was sick and he wanted to go. I need to know what y'all think about this and even more what y'all think about
Starting point is 00:26:11 what do y'all think about my man and his exit interviews, doubling the hell down. He said, y'all, y'all wish y'all could play. Don't come over here with me. Y'all want me to apologize? Apologize for what? Okay?
Starting point is 00:26:30 He even said, y'all think he quit to go home. He knows that when you are eliminated, you go to Ponderosa. The fact that he knew that and didn't know that he could write his own name down does give me a slight pause, but I need to know y'all take on Rah. Windezy, go ahead. Where do I start? I want to say that
Starting point is 00:27:05 and I've been on the receiving end of some dog piles, okay? I have never seen such a united front of a dog pile on someone on this show. Like, everybody is, United on this one from that guy, Russell, whatever, that guy. But also, like, I see Matt Fischoff saying things. I see everybody is saying stuff about Rob. And so I don't want to dog pile on him and contribute to it.
Starting point is 00:27:41 But, yo, you tried to get off the island by voting yourself out. It didn't work. Then you talk about, oh. then you self-diagnose with an infection all the way up your leg that is not corroborated by any doctor or props. And you self-boot. Like, it's an interesting thing. I hope his leg is doing all right. I hope they didn't have to amputate his leg.
Starting point is 00:28:15 And I'm wishing him the best. I will not contribute to the dog filed out. You know it's bad. You know it's bad When you got Jerome I would have won Cooney
Starting point is 00:28:37 Cooney talking about Take Survivor out your buyer He really said that in his comments Rome wrote that in Rob's comment And Rome meant it. Okay. Now, Rome
Starting point is 00:28:56 Rome ain't been out of fire for two minutes, okay? You know it's bad. I'm with Rome. Three foot seven in all is looking up and say it.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Can you imagine Jack? He said, take Survivor out your bio. That's crazy. Not to mention the cornball emoji too. And I text Rome. I said, what is going on?
Starting point is 00:29:39 Rome said I was I was pissed watching that episode. Yeah, rum doesn't play. Rome doesn't play. You know, you know, it's bad. Like, you pulled up that screenshot when you got like 150 likes, like 400 comments. Also,
Starting point is 00:29:56 So, you know, ultimately this quit was obviously pathetic, but like I thought Rob was really hilarious. So I could like appreciate the Rob experience from what it was. But also like, why are you shooting your video about it like in the, the TSA tunnel? Like he didn't win. He got to work. He's at work. Clearly. PTO time is over.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Let me just say this. Jeff said he's never bringing back villains. Right. I feel like Rob was the closest thing we got to. a villain and he unfortunately is not in the illustrious Bryce Isaiah third boot club. I mean, he kind of is. Well, I mean, he went out before Pat. And when I say boot, I mean, we've had this debate about so potentially.
Starting point is 00:30:45 But what I will say is there, I, I myself am a delusional king. Okay. I'm impregnated with an alien, okay? I'm a Dr. Bryce. I love the delusion. And I really like the fact that he's kind of standing 10 toes down. Now, I mean, it's a little crazy. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Him with that video in the rain talking about they want me to apologize and I'm not. There's something refreshing. I don't know. Like, again, with exit interviews, we kind of always get the same thing. I've been enjoying it. I mean, I'm looking at them a little crazy, but listen, rock on, brother. Rock on. I mean, the funniest bit was like the doctor being like, yeah, there's nothing wrong.
Starting point is 00:31:35 He's like, but you're telling me this, like, could get infected. They're like, I mean, like, that could always happen. He's like, there you go, guys. I actually didn't tell you that, but you're telling the doctor that. Oh, yeah. Doctor's orders. I'm saying, get my family. Pack this shit up.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Get me out of here. I can get hurt. I mean, I didn't know that. I got to go. Jeff is shady. When Jeff came back to that camp, it was like, hey, you got something to tell them? And then Jeff was like, I just want to be clear.
Starting point is 00:32:13 We absolutely do remove people from the game. But there are instances where people can remove themselves from the game in fear of threat of being sick or hurt. Jeff was like, yo, it's him, it's not me. The funny thing for me is, though, I went back and watched episode two to watch them walk into Tribal.
Starting point is 00:32:46 He was walking fine. And Jeff said, wait, did you say anything at Tribal? No. Does you say anything when you got cut? No. So you're bringing it up down. But yeah. One of the thing on this.
Starting point is 00:33:01 I will say when you get that punch in the face early on the show and like he tried something, the episode prior made a fool of himself, right? So like, you know, you're feeling silly or whatever. You can, it's good for you to then lock in, figure it out and find a way to get through and persevere and. this game. Like, it's a better storyline if you figure it out. It's not a good storyline. If you're looking like a fool, you're on the bottom, and then you kick yourself out of the game. It's, it's, we want to see the Andy stories. You know what I'm saying? We want to see when Nick Wilson even, like, when it's, it's not so good for you, but you, you, you persevere and you figure it out. And in this case, it wasn't so good for him.
Starting point is 00:33:53 And I guess he just figured his way out. And it didn't happen when he tried to vote himself out. So he's like, no, I got a situation with my leg. The only thing that kind of does, like, I feel bad for Anna, right? Because it's like, if you were going to quit, like, it's like you could have preserved Anna another, like to give her another opportunity. Well, he tried to vote for himself. he could have just
Starting point is 00:34:20 he tried to do it the honorable way they didn't let him crazy yeah where you want to go to this advantage actually when Deasy where do you want to go let's go to him slide in the idol
Starting point is 00:34:40 well I mean fine that's where do you want go ahead I just I have thoughts on it that was just me in my mind so he slid the idol the Carter right Can I ask just one question? I don't got my glasses, but go ahead.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Do y'all believe he slid Carter, the idol, or do you think maybe production gave it to him? I only say that because we didn't see a lot of rob, and we got a lot of him on a stretcher, being medevac, them putting IV in them, them giving him oxygen, them reviving him.
Starting point is 00:35:27 We got a lot of all of that. But like, I mean, I think I would have loved to maybe see that happen. Well, then I think they lose the suspense of like, is he going to quit? Like, what's going to happen? You know what I mean? Although it would have been funny because I think that he gave it to him. But I'm sure Bob was like, Carter, brother, they're going to take me out of the game. I want you to have this.
Starting point is 00:35:54 And then Jeff's like, you're all good. And if Rob was like, I guess I'm good, Carter, could I get that back? I'll stay. I'll stay.
Starting point is 00:36:04 But if he were to give it to Carter, like, why you ain't give it to Eric? You said who's going to give it to Eric last time? So that's the only thing that has me and then seeing how the episode played out, it worked. So that was just my only thought,
Starting point is 00:36:15 but that's just, you know, picking your brains. Shall we go to the journeys? Yeah. Yeah. So we get, Devin and Carter have the opportunity to take a visit over to the other tribe.
Starting point is 00:36:39 And first and foremost, it was kind of interesting that over at Toka, everyone did, nobody wanted to go. And Devin was like, all right, I'll do it. And then at whatever, the purple tribe, they all wanted to go. So they had to draw rocks. What did you guys think was like, like, why do you guys think there was such differing opinions between the two tribes of one, like one tribe everyone wants to get and the other one, like no one really wants to go.
Starting point is 00:37:09 I think on the, what tribe is the toga? Is that the Devon tribe? Yellow, yeah. I think on the Toka tribe, I think that no one wanted to go because there is such a visible fraction, right, where we have the people in power and the other people not in power and we're like the other people that aren't in power, I feel like they don't really want to miss anything because something can happen. But I was shocked that it was a good move for Devin.
Starting point is 00:37:38 But again, for me, it's like another thing kind of like adding to the like, ooh, and then when he goes, we see people have opinions about it. Like my girl, now I don't want to mispronounce her name, Titan. Tanan. Tanan. We see a lot of her and her personality this episode. And she's like, she's clocking Devin. And we see Kilby clock in death. We see this other fraction kind of really seeing.
Starting point is 00:38:03 And so that was interesting to me. And I feel like the other tribe, it's a lot going on. And we don't necessarily see the strong. The alliances are a little more fluid. And so like everyone wants to want to want my opinion. Yeah. Yeah, I think with the purple group too. What you're going to say, Wendy's easy?
Starting point is 00:38:27 I agree. No, I was going to co-sign you and this Devon thing. Devon is flying close to the sun. Like, doing a lot and so visible. I'm just, again, I don't know when or what, and I hope nothing happens to him, but I'm getting so much Caleb from him and he's just so, he's doing a lot.
Starting point is 00:38:56 He's so personable. He's so likable. And in a game like this, I don't know. I don't know. But also he's insulated. He's insulated. He has good alliances. I do like that he is close with Brady.
Starting point is 00:39:10 And then he also has the helicopter alliance. So like his connections are pretty good. Yeah. I was going to say, I think with the Purple Tribe, too, it's kind of become like Carter was sort of a clear-cut target. And, you know, once he wants to go, it's kind of like everyone else sort of also has to want to go so that he doesn't get the opportunity to go.
Starting point is 00:39:32 whereas like you said, Bryce, the yellow group's a little bit more like the dynamics are a little more fluid and so I don't think people don't want to leave because you don't want to miss out on like the tide's changing. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:39:48 and then they get to the other beaches. They get an advantage and they also have an opportunity to potentially mutiny and switch tribes. I think that, I think the Carter situation was hilarious. I think I think from him getting there, putting his bag down, them seeing the bag like,
Starting point is 00:40:13 should we see what's going on? Him leaving the advantage on the top of his bag, then proceeding to run and Brady annihilating the whores, but I think he could have, I think he could have just taken the string off of the ore. but Brady and a hammer or an axe or anything, he's going to annihilate whatever's in his way. Or a Bryce. So two things, right?
Starting point is 00:40:48 Didn't realize how bad of a position Carter was in until we get back and he kind of starts explaining to us like, hey, you guys didn't tell me what happening. They're like, no, we ain't want to, it's good. that Carter is realizing like, oh shit. And then with Rob potentially going and he's like, if you, Carter is trying to convey to Rob like, brother, don't leave me out here.
Starting point is 00:41:17 I'm stuck. And so we don't really see much of Carter, right? And I think there's something admirable or endearing. Carter is like a very simple man, right? And like it just, he knows what's in front of him. And when he's reading the letter, he's just like, and if you're smart enough, if you're witty enough,
Starting point is 00:41:36 the Carter's like, hey, I'm gonna tell you all now. I'm not that witty, but I'll see what I can do. But there is something like honest. And like there's something from I get from as a viewer where it's like, I don't want to say like he's a simple man, but you can tell us, like very,
Starting point is 00:41:55 and he sees his outcome is a little bleak. And like immediately he gets there with Mike. and Mike is trying to lock in with him. What I thought the most interesting was, and I don't want to be on Brady too much, but Brady is a thinker. I mean, he crazy as hell. And sometimes that craziness overpowers his thinking.
Starting point is 00:42:20 But when he pressed the issue with Carter about the advantages, him knowing all of that, and Carter lying to him, but like him taking the lying ass. That's exactly what I would do in that position. And I kind of know he's somewhat solid in sticking to the plan. I was like, oh, that's a way to read it. Because my ass would have been like, oh, I can't trust them.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Get them out of here. And I was like, oh, like, you're actually using that to his advantage. And I was like, okay, okay, W's in the chat for Brady. for that. Yeah, that you could have you could have taken Carter's actions numerous ways, but I guess
Starting point is 00:43:11 Brady knew what he wanted. He wanted to make some kind of alliance with or find a way to work with him and put himself in issues. Duh, I'm on Survivor. Of course he would. Of course he would and anyone should not willfully share this
Starting point is 00:43:27 upon first meeting someone. Cool, got it. But I could. still see us working together and I'm going to hold the knowledge of that in my head. Good move, Brady. What did you guys think about Brady giving Maggie the advantage
Starting point is 00:43:42 when she asks? I thought another good move by Brady. I thought it was, well, first of all, he stole it. He said, give me this here. Thought it was good, but also like I also am thinking like
Starting point is 00:44:03 I'm like that's so Raven seeing into the future right and seeing how Brady thinks and like he says to her but she'll vote the way I want you to vote and in that moment who won't say no right but it's making me see that like Brady
Starting point is 00:44:20 Brady might be a dictator and right now it's working because he's with end in power and we see where anybody tries to cross him it's like you got to go and so it makes me a little nervous, just hearing that because I'm like, maybe as things get down the line and Brady starts moving and getting more in control, like how people will feel about that. So I mean, at that point, I would have kept it.
Starting point is 00:44:46 I would, I would have hit her with the, if you want to use it, let me know. Yeah, it's a weird spot because if you say no, it's like you're kind of creating an enemy. And I don't know, I don't think an extra of all is worth having bad blood. Plus, I think it's fair, like, Maggie sort of was already there, and Brady was like, can I, can I just chop it open for you? And then he took it and it's like, well, you kind of told it you would give it to her. Like, yeah. Can we talk about Kilby? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:21 So it's interesting, because we're talking about this other fraction. Kilby, Sanan, Maggie, and we have Louisa, Jenna, and we have Louis, Jenna, and we have Louis. and Carter. And I like Killby's approach to the game where he really is sowing seeds of mistrust to Devin. And it's getting back to Devin and it's not necessarily like working out
Starting point is 00:45:48 how he wants it to work out. But regardless of Devin clocking it, I still think the seeds have been planted and especially like with Sanan, that's like I just I feel like there is something there that like it could potentially come back and seeing how this episode ended with this fraction leaving off and power I'm like Kilby flew a little close to the sun he was he was almost out of year but I'm being as though he was able to survive that I am interested to see the Kilby art yeah I mean especially now that devon went over and talked
Starting point is 00:46:37 talked-ish about them. Everywhere. Yeah. I don't, like, yeah, it's interesting. I mean, Kilby is a smart guy and clearly strategic, but I think thrives in chaos. And I don't know. I think the, the approach of like, like he, you know, for example, talking shit about Brady to Pat, like, that was a bad call, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:47:03 So what I will say about Kilby, very, very separate. I'm sort of regurgitating. They mentioned this on the know-it-alls, but we talked about Kilby was the one sent to negotiate for the supplies day one. And we see, like, part of the reason Devin doesn't mutinies because of how bad the other tribes' shelter is, whereas Toka, where Kilby took, you know, like the shelter building supplies and things like that, they've got a great setup. And so, like, Rob says he hasn't slept more than an hour or night, whereas Toka seems to be living pretty good. you got to give props to kill me again for that. So I did think that was worth a mention on his behalf. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:47:50 I'd like to go somewhere else too real quick. I think we need to talk about the Player of the Day. On that Player of the Day started off cheerfully delightful Mr. Lewis. And my, my, has Lewis turned into, nobody will get hurt. put your hands up and put the money in the mother imbag now friend okay i don't know about you guys but there was a very different louis this episode you could see it in his eyes you're giving smigel right now bro um lewis clocked in and he is no longer cheerfully
Starting point is 00:48:36 delicious i mean well he's still cheerfully delicious but he's still cheerfully delicious but he got the gun, he at the bank, and he just slid the notice. Baby, I didn't know Lewis had it in him. Lewis is peeping game. And I, dare I say, Lewis being forgotten about on the first two episodes and being gone for 72 hours and Survivor was like,
Starting point is 00:49:01 oh shit, come back. I think that could have been the best thing for Lewis because Lewis is now hyper-assimulating into the tribe. And him hyper assimilating is him peeping and seeing where everybody's at and knowing his position.
Starting point is 00:49:17 And like he's like, okay, this ain't going to work for me. I need to do something else. Yeah. Yeah. They made a great move. They look at the Irish. I like,
Starting point is 00:49:34 I like move making Lewis. It makes me scared for, I mean, did they know that he was kind of driving it? Not necessarily. I don't think. Yeah, but yeah. I like watching a move making Lewis making a move on this.
Starting point is 00:49:56 And also, guys, like, this five, this is a five-person alliance on a tribe of 10, right? 11 now. Six person now. But before the, before the meeting up. So y'all were really bold in. showing who's with you and who's not with you to where these people are like, yo, we got to crack that.
Starting point is 00:50:21 And they got an opportunity and they shot that shot and they hit their mark. Yeah. Yeah. I'm mixed on this move. I mean, I love, I don't think anything about this move is an inherently bad gameplay. And like I love seeing Lewis take the reins,
Starting point is 00:50:40 create this connection with Carter, I think was a really smart angle. and his pulse of the tribe was really spot on. Because I think a lot of times if that minority four of Kilby and Tenon and Jenna and Maggie were not ready to shake, you know, you could be calling this out and then put yourself in a really bad spot. But clearly he's able to spearhead things and pull the group together and make this vote work. And I honestly think Pat, you know, as much as we hate to lose. her. We hate to lose her because she was a great player. Right. And so I think that was a smart target.
Starting point is 00:51:20 The one thing I'll say, and you guys kind of mentioned it is we sort of see and again, I listened to the note all this week. So this was sort of a point that they brought up. So I don't want to want to be stealing it. But I fully agree with something Stephen Fishback said of, you know, Christian kind of Christian ubiquity sort of mentions this in season 50 of like, and I've sort of always looked at things this way where early on, um, There's a lot of game left. And there's sort of inevitably going to be like a swap or whatever. And so you opt for this six, five vote.
Starting point is 00:51:52 You're now burning, you're coming back to camp having burned four people. And so if you get to a swap, now there's four people that don't really trust you. That could really be like a make or break number for you if you swap, right? Because whereas if Kilby seemed to be the easier vote, if Lewis goes along with that and then brings Carter on that. I don't really think like a Jenna or a Maggie is really going to push back on a killby vote. Now you've got more sort of tribal unity where you go to a swap and your tribe is still up 10 to 7 that that unity you could find yourself on a tribe swap. They know they might swap to tribes of six or whatever. We see it's coming next episode. Obviously they don't know that
Starting point is 00:52:37 out there but the open era of 21 people you kind of assume there's going to be a swap. I would I'd much rather go into a swap, you know, whatever it might be, that next episode or a couple episodes later in their mind with a harmonious majority group than a fractured group, because now you're going to be having a Devon or a Jelly or a Brady or a Mike that are wanting some revenge and are willing to flip. So I think in this moment, in this tribe for their longevity on the tribe, great move. And if you look at this tribe as if it were like the actual Final 11, it was a fantastic move because you have to break up this group. But for a Lewis who's not really on anyone's radar,
Starting point is 00:53:18 it feels like, again, I don't think anything inherently wrong about this play, but I just looked looking to the future where he wasn't a target now, right? So he didn't necessarily have to like uproot the whole operation to save himself. Right. He could put himself in a tricky position moving forward. But don't get me wrong,
Starting point is 00:53:38 I love that he took agency. and of all, especially like as far as a viewer goes, love that he like took the reins and made a move. Because him just going along and voting Kilby would have been more boring. So I am a Lewis fan and appreciator of the fact that he like went for it. This episode alone should show you that even if you're not the intended target, it doesn't mean that ish can't change.
Starting point is 00:54:01 And so like I do like the fact that Lewis wasn't taking happen chance and just going with the votes because anything could have happened. And we see the reason that they. targeted Pat was like because of her association. So it's like, I actually am not mad at that because it's like you never know what can happen. Another to your and Steven's point, like yeah, it does shake up the game a lot this season. However, I think that is coming from a new era standpoint. This is the open era and I think time and time again, we're on episode three. And they have shown us that the open era is a little more fluid. There was even a point in the episode where ORI review,
Starting point is 00:54:37 and I think I even asked Shaw about this way. Orie and Sharonda, they didn't vote together last tribal. And Ori Reveals like, I didn't vote the way that Sharonda voted, but I did let her know because, like, we're still in communication. But they're not voting together.
Starting point is 00:54:54 We see in episode one with Brady and Devin. They're not necessarily voting together. And we talked about it. This in the open era, I find that it's not the doctorate of Survivor fans playing, right? These are, casual survivor fan so it leaves room that I believe in the open era that's sure things they might not be as cut and dry like absolutely this move is going to shake
Starting point is 00:55:19 some things up but I don't feel like it is going to hold him back it's not going to like I don't think it's going to like inherently mess up his game now but that's the problem is I can see a world where he gets to swap with like you know two people people he just burned in a couple of other members of the Purple tribe and that he's in trouble. You know what I mean? Like that very well might not happen. But I don't know. I'm always just a subscriber to the fact that like early on until the merge,
Starting point is 00:55:55 you want to just assemble as many, like as strong connections across the board as possible. And then the time to burn those connections would be after the merge. But yeah. but I mean I would say he got as many connections as the other side of the fraction then then so I don't know I feel like he's in an okay position
Starting point is 00:56:20 like he's the one that also said should we look into Carter's bag right like I'm just like there's just so much that we are getting to see from Lewis that I didn't know he had in him
Starting point is 00:56:38 And so I just, it's very interesting. I would not have taken him to be. Rob tapped out and I think Lewis tapped in and said, oh, you're looking for a villain? And to be fair, like to the counter-argue of my own point, I think making a move like this, sure, it could create some enemies, but it also solidifies you much more with the people that you have now made a move with, where, like, if he gets swapped with a Kilby or a Tenon or a Maggie or,
Starting point is 00:57:07 or Carter than he knows. It's like, that's my people. We're good. Whereas if you just go along with the Kilby and it's a unanimous vote, it's like the lines still haven't really been drawn. So there's maybe people are more willing to then go against him down the line. So, yeah, but I think it was, again,
Starting point is 00:57:26 I don't think there was anything inherently wrong with the move. I think it opens it up. I think it opens this game up to some positive avenues, but also some dangerous avenues. But I think it's just more exciting. gameplay. So I would encourage everyone, like, as a viewer, you want people to move like a Lewis, you know. Yeah. It makes it fun to watch for sure. And it opens the door. Like it, like, it open, like, because now somebody on that other side of that fraction with Pat on, they might be like,
Starting point is 00:57:59 whoa, maybe we're not as strong as we like. It just, for me, it opens the door. Put the target, but Sometimes, listen, you got to, in order to win, you got to play and you got to play to win, that's a bar. What y'all think about this challenge? Do you like to challenge, Jack? Pull up the picture again. I kind of remind me exactly what it was. So it was very much the new school and new open era where it's like you have to crawl. And they were like boxing each other out.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Right. And we had to go through waves. So three people at a time had to go through. You had to get something. Then the next three people could go. Then you had to release these chains. You had to get everybody up a wall. The thing that I loved the absolute most about this challenge was,
Starting point is 00:59:04 hey, bay, let's get physical. Yeah. We have not seen a physical challenge. like this in a while. And I don't know if in the directions, Jeff said you could get physical, but he did say in open air, we bring him a lot of stuff back.
Starting point is 00:59:22 And when my girl Alexis, they said, go, my girl, Alexis said, excuse me. Boom, boom. I say,
Starting point is 00:59:29 oh! Yeah. Yeah, that was the highlight to me too. Yeah, it took me a second to kind of remember, but I love that. Whether it was in like the, the hay and people, or like grabbing each other or even Alexis coming up
Starting point is 00:59:46 and just blighting and be like, boom, get out the way. I thought that was a lot of fun. Like, and now I- Move, get out the way, get out of the way. Get out of the way. Oh, no. The fights out. I'm about to punch show.
Starting point is 01:00:02 Lights out. Get the fact. God, you grill. Get, no, eh, move. Get out. Get out the way. Get out the way. Move. Get out the way. Jack, put your hands up. I hear your cleaves. I hear the keys clicking.
Starting point is 01:00:25 I just put my volume back up. So I hear you guys. I mean, that's an Alexis original. Okay. Is that, is that a, is that DMX? Should we give him another song, Bryce? Okay. Please don't. I want to. Oh, brodie, from your head to your toes. I want to mown to the head down to the down to the phone.
Starting point is 01:00:52 I want to, I want to, you make so good. I don't want to leave. But I got to let the know what your fantasy. As head down and up. That's the. I want to get you on the Georgia door. I want to fit the yard line. What the dundits kick for three.
Starting point is 01:01:09 And if you like, I'm going to do the video through on the back of the VIP. Jerry's strawberry, no stop. How about in a library on top of books? We all got to be me. Duper out. Big for it. Give me TLC because you know what you do, bro.
Starting point is 01:01:29 All right, Jack. Jack. Take it like a multiple choice. Do you need another one? I mean, I know I've heard these songs before. I just don't know. Road and bowls. 30-inch ride.
Starting point is 01:01:43 High. I. That really, Alps, man. Cadillac meals, Cadillac, grills, check out the oil my Cadillacs, meals, matter of fact,
Starting point is 01:01:56 candy peg, candy pack, Cill, check out the, my Cadillac kills, 20 inch wide, 20 inch high, oh, don't you like my 20 inch,
Starting point is 01:02:04 broad, 20 inch thighs, make 20 inch eyes, hoping for American 20 inch pies. Jack? I mean, I'm going to need,
Starting point is 01:02:16 I need some multiple toys. Lovers and friends. Oh, show you're right. That Ursa John and Luda had to do it again. Tell your lover and friends that Urshah and Luda had to do it again. So I got those three options right there. Okay. Is it a little, it's not, no, it's not a little, no, it's not a little, no.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Whoever the first person you said, that's my guess. Urcia? Urcia, yeah. Urcia? Yeah. U.S.S.H.A? It is ludicrous. That was ludicrous?
Starting point is 01:02:59 Yes, that's a luda. Luda? Oh, you were just going as old. Oh, shit. What is his real? He doesn't really. You know, baby Justin Bieber. He's got a verse on there.
Starting point is 01:03:12 I'm screaming. Also, don't forget to, Lewis clocked in during this challenge, too. You saw him after he got through the hay, pulling. He was pulling old girl. But listen, I do want to say something real quick. Uh-oh. And I said what you say.
Starting point is 01:03:32 You know, all of these men's out here, we got a lot of physically fit men. But I know one thing. I know a wall hate to see Ori coming. Okay. Ori said, I don't need your help. Let me go out here, show the tribe. What's up? Ory backed up.
Starting point is 01:03:54 He got in the running place. He said, boop, boop, bo, bo, bo. He said, oh, oh, all, all, all, all. Y'all want to get on my back? Here, climb up my back. I thought he was going to make it, though. I was like, oh, look at Ori. The problem is, even if he made it,
Starting point is 01:04:16 how's everyone else going to get up? You know. There's that rope. I know, but the rope was only like a couple of feet long. I guess he could drop it, come back down, and then do it again. Do it again. That wall said not to die. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:36 I mean, that was a great win for the Purple Tribe. Oh, absolutely. And at the right time. Yeah. I mean, you just, it's one of those things you lose. Anna, then you lose Rob, then you lose Carter. Crazy. Now, the other tribe is 11 people.
Starting point is 01:04:57 You could tell they were coming scrappy. Like, they were talking a little bit of shit. They were obviously getting physical early on. Like, they wanted this one badly, which I respect. Like I, and you see when you lose three people in a row, it's like, you're like, damn, this is like, it's on. Let's make it happen. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Kielby was telling Dev like, hey, I'm good at puzzles here and you kind of like sat me out. And very interesting because I thought that conversation was interesting and I would love to know
Starting point is 01:05:33 your thoughts, right? When you are, say you are on this team and say you are a Kilby and say there is a Devon and we all know we all love Devin, okay, me included. if you are a Kilby in that position and Jeff goes, all right, give you some time to pick your teams and then we'll get this challenge started.
Starting point is 01:05:53 And Dev goes in and says, all right, who are we going to pick? If you're Kilby, do you just sit down? Or do you think it's worth you saying, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Well, it sounds like he did say, like, I want to do this one and Devin wasn't budging. which honestly maybe the biggest Devin's had a lot of missteps but this could be like one of the more underrated ones of you're getting ready for a challenge
Starting point is 01:06:23 someone says hey I'm really good at this and you're like nah you're sitting now like that's not the type of person people are going to want to work with especially Kilby's got a track record of like he's done well on the puzzle so if you're Kilby in that instance do you push back hard or even concede it
Starting point is 01:06:41 and I'm trying to figure out what I would do because you're putting yourself in the hero role and you're now fighting or doubling down on putting yourself in the hero role. I feel like I would have done what Kilby did, which it sounds like he was like, hey, I want to do this.
Starting point is 01:06:57 And Devin was like, no, no, nah, and Kelby's there. And Devin's like, no, you're sitting this one out. I'll be like, all right, I guess. I don't know. And now the blood's on Devin's hands, I guess. But not really, because it's like, again, well, and maybe it is
Starting point is 01:07:13 because we see who we're at home. home, but also it was interesting because Devin was cracking me up, where it's not like this was a reward challenge, and then there was an individual immunity. It was a reward and immunity, so, Dave, my try, I like to see, this is why I like Deve, because
Starting point is 01:07:28 he's like, he's like, well, because listen, Jeff said, four people got to sit down this challenge, and I'm thinking to myself, we really going to need kill me, that. Like, it's like, bitch, what? Like, no. I thought the same thing.
Starting point is 01:07:46 It's a beauty. It's like, that's the same thing as this. That's the price answer right there. And yeah, Kilby wasn't buying it. I disagree. I feel the thing that I have learned in my day in Survivor is that there was an opportunity for me to sit out on my challenge episode that I had went home on. Or no, I didn't go home on episode.
Starting point is 01:08:14 But because, you know, I got all these episodes. But there was, like, one of the challenges I wanted to swim. Like, I wanted to do the challenge. But, like, no one really wanted to back. Like, no one wanted to not sit out. So I was just like, okay. But I am a firm believer. If you are confident and you feel like you can do good,
Starting point is 01:08:35 I absolutely think you should buck back a little bit. Like I say, I really want to do this. Now, again, it does put you in that position. where it's like, if I don't make it, then it's a lot on me. But I just, I feel like I think people should fight to do what they think. And if you do, though, you have to be ready to deliver. But like, this is a situation. I think kill be what.
Starting point is 01:09:01 And also, yeah, I do think it's an underrated thing of like going to these team challenges, being able to be honest with yourself about your strengths and weaknesses in both directions, too, of like, I think sometimes people aren't forward enough of like, I am confident that I am good at XYZ. And so some people are very like, you know, whatever, I'll do whatever. It's like, no, if you're a good swimmer, I want to hear you're a good swimmer, right? Right. But if you're not, don't be afraid to be like, that's not my strong suit.
Starting point is 01:09:30 I'll set this one out. But if you fight for it and you take that L, you got to wear that on your suite. 100%. Yeah. Also for it, Kilby, this may have worked out where it's like you actually sat out, you actually can use this to potentially sway other people and you can take a shot at the fraction and it really could work out in your favor.
Starting point is 01:09:58 Yeah. I mean, how much of that ultimately do you think was a factor in this vote of, like, do you think the others were like, man, Devin made Kilby sit out? Like, that's an extra reason to take a shot? No, right? No, but Kilby sat out. so not so they lost we don't know if he would have would have actually been the magician they had a solid lead though right yeah yeah but but who knows how killby is at
Starting point is 01:10:23 you know what so like regardless he sat out they lost even if it's not extra ammo all right now you have the opportunity to make this big move and you do it yeah yeah it is interesting yeah devon's just been rubbing people the wrong way and he's like still hasn't been targeted and then a pat is targeted. But what I also thought was so interesting was like Maggie this episode when Kilby Tanan and Maggie were talking where Maggie's like absolutely they are for sure in control but she had her three non-negotiables which were Devin jelly and Pat and so there is something to be said where it's like Devin is shining bright but the relationship that he is making thus far
Starting point is 01:11:14 are holding the pressure my other question is this yeah you're shining bright you're extraordinarily charismatic yeah like you are a shining star what if you get to the end with someone that played a better game than you
Starting point is 01:11:33 like what isn't that how y'all like to play Survivor huh What I'm saying is, like, I'm just kind of thinking like, all right, we keep thinking about like the whole Caleb, like, you're so friendly and likable and personable and this and that. But it's like, you know, people played strong games on Caleb season of Survivor. You know, like, is there a world where other people are bigger threats in front of this person? So like.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Potentially. Yeah. But I do think Devon is very similar to Caleb, but also very different than Caleb, right? Caleb was kind of, from what I remember, like he, he had Emily and he wasn't as much, like his reach, I don't think was as strong as a Devon's, where like we see on the other side,
Starting point is 01:12:35 Devin goes over there, he's got Ori, he's got Sharonda, not only he seals the deal, with them, him and Sharonda find the idol. We know Sharonda don't play. He then tells, or not the idol, the extra vote. Then he even tells Ori. And like, we see them being very much locked in. And so, like, if it is and when they do merge,
Starting point is 01:12:56 Sharonda has her people, or he has hit, like, Devin really, he's in a great position. He needs to now, I feel like, change gears and fall back a little bit and let other people start doing things because he's laid a solid foundation. Yeah, very true. Very true.
Starting point is 01:13:17 I think it's a great strategy for him to take his foot off of the control gas and maybe focus on like the latent things, like the lower key things. Instead of having to be the leader in everything or dictate everything, I think now is a very good time for him to say, I've done a lot of that. Oftentimes it ain't even going his way. hey, let me now pull back a little bit and work these things.
Starting point is 01:13:48 Yeah, the charm and the charisma should be is best used in that relationship building, which he's done, but he's also been trying to leverage his charisma to kind of take control. I think even if that is successful to do that so early on is like a no-no, right? You want to just create as many positive relationships as you can. and then down the line when the time is right, you can take the reins, but you don't have to be in the driver's seat for every single vote for 26 days.
Starting point is 01:14:19 Wendell, while you were going for a second, I was telling Jack, this open air is so interesting because we saw earlier in episodes Brady and Devin go butt heads, vote differently, but still work together.
Starting point is 01:14:34 This episode, we kind of got the answers that we wanted with Ori and Sharonda, where Ori revealed to us, he was like, I didn't vote with Sharonda, but I let her know I wasn't voting that way. What's your thoughts on us seeing the evolution of this open air where we have allies being like, we're not, we don't have to vote in the same voting block,
Starting point is 01:14:53 but I'm going to keep it funky with you so you know I'm still messing with you. I think it's such a great idea, especially when it comes to the black survivors that like, you know, there might be survivors on that island that have an inkling of something going on in like a black alliance.
Starting point is 01:15:08 or this helicopter alliance or whatever. And if Ori and Sharonda are on the same tribe but not voting with each other, it's like that can kind of allow in some degree them to separate themselves from one another. I think it's a really good idea. I think it's a really good idea. I like it.
Starting point is 01:15:29 We're not even, I'm not voting with her. Like, what do you mean? I'm with her. And, yeah, because on, like, it's, it's it's easy to like make certain assumptions about like black players you know like oh they might have something so in this case they're like yo not like nah i think specifically in ori's case right because i don't think ory is a super fan right i think he's a casual fan and i think we've talked about this on our podcast where like sometimes in the new era we got a little over people wanting
Starting point is 01:16:08 use their voting records. Like, you know, I voted with the vote. I voted right with the vote. And again, there's something refreshing with these, like, the casual fans where, like, Orii, or he thinking about jumping a wall. He's not thinking about being on the right side of the votes. And it's almost like, in my opinion,
Starting point is 01:16:26 he's kind of sort of protecting his integrity in the sense, if he were to sit at the end, he could potentially use this something like, well, I was working with Sharonda, but I didn't vote this. Like, he could use. this to build a case for his resume that I'm like, I love this. You don't have to use.
Starting point is 01:16:45 I voted to do the right time. I didn't vote eight. Like, uh, I like. Yeah. I think he's made great points. I think it's an excellent point. One do all of like, you know, when that happened to episode one with Devin and Brady, it was sort of like, uh, it's an early vote. We're going to go for what we feel is right, but that doesn't mean we're not going to work together. Whereas this time with, with the Ori Sharonda, I think that there's an extra layer that you brought up that I hadn't really thought about of like for whatever reason you
Starting point is 01:17:13 could kind of if you know where the votes are going you can kind of like then mask your own connections maybe you create inroads within those individual factions um to then kind of you know we're in separate alliances but now we're going to know all of the conversations um and i also think like bryce you make a good point where there was such an emphasis on for like new era and before like i got to be on the right side of the vote. And that's like a big pitch to the jury. But I think that's typically you want to be on the right side of the vote. But I also think there's some respect to be had of like, maybe you're on the wrong side of the vote, but you were trying to make something happen. And like, it's not always going to work out 100% of the time. But I'd rather, I kind of, it's, I think it's more commendable
Starting point is 01:17:57 of like, okay, Bryce, you're going to go try to make something shake and take a swing. Maybe it didn't hit this time, but you're playing an active game rather than being like, I have to be in the numbers. I have to be in the numbers. Like, you're just scrambling to be in the majority without making anything happen. Like, that's worse gameplay, in my opinion. And Ori knew who was going home. It wasn't like Ori didn't know what was happening.
Starting point is 01:18:18 And I think that that's even more something that you could build on. So it just, it makes me very interesting to see. It's a balance, of course. Sorry, sorry. No, go. Yeah. The only balance being, obviously, like, in Ori's position, it's like, well, the person you voted for is still here.
Starting point is 01:18:36 And you don't want that. to keep happening where there's some strategy to maybe doing this. But if time and time again, the person you then vote for doesn't go home, that's dicey too. Yeah. But I even say to like Ori, right, like him and Carter voted together, right? And so like, at least Carter knows that. And so like if there is a world where we get back together and now Carter might be in the power, it leaves an open road for anything to happen.
Starting point is 01:19:05 So it's like very interesting to see that. So it's like he still has that relationship with Carter. But again, I do just want to also just shout out my girl, Kristen. We ain't see a lot of her this episode. But when Rob was getting voted out and Kristen revealed, she was like, bitch, I got a broken leg, a broken ankle. What is you talking about? There is this underlying.
Starting point is 01:19:29 We see a lot of the big people that we, you know, we see the Brady's. We know the Devons. We've seen the jellies. We got the Charondas. We got the Ori's. But there is this other fraction that we haven't seen a lot of that, you know how I am. Sometimes when they give us all these big people and then by the merge, they're out. And so I just also want y'all to keep in mind my good, good, good, good friend Christian.
Starting point is 01:19:59 We haven't seen a lot of him. Did I see he just got engaged? I think so. So congratulations Christian But I always look during the episode When people are talking at it Like it seems like we see people coming to Christian It don't seem like he's just out there not doing nothing
Starting point is 01:20:15 My girl Kristen My girl Tenan We saw her personality I said oh Y'all better watch out for her We see Kilby We see Maggie We see Maggie and her confessional being so pissed
Starting point is 01:20:28 Like I should have did this And then she's like well I got it back We haven't seen much agenda There is a lot of people that in my perspective have huge personalities that we just the tip we are seen yeah it kind of reminds me I was thinking about during the episode in a very positive way it kind of reminds me with these big tribes of these two large tribes kind of reminds me like an Australian survivor where there's a lot of different dynamics going on not a big strong there's a lot of people that you
Starting point is 01:20:59 don't necessarily see right away but there's things cooking in the background things that keep it fresh and funky where each episode it's like, I didn't know 10 on was cooking this up. Like that is now a big component of this next episode. Whereas in a tribe of six, it's like, okay, these four together, these two aren't. Like that's the dynamic. Now there's different factions and things going on behind the scenes that may take a step forward down the line and like really change the arc here. There's these wild card factors that we don't really know where they're at yet.
Starting point is 01:21:30 And we're going to have time to discover that. and it's going to kind of shape things down the line. Go ahead, Wendell. No, I like that about big tribes. I like that. Now, I was going to co-sign him. I kept my mouth shouting you forced me to go sign it. Now he's laughing at you.
Starting point is 01:21:59 I like big tribe. So astute. I will say that I think it's safe to say we're three for three so far. season on good episodes, good, great episodes. So I'm hoping to keep roll. And what I like, I think this episode really encapsulated it was, I think a lot of the concern about the open air was like, is every episode going to have some crazy twists where like we see another Christian having a vote for himself and all this?
Starting point is 01:22:28 I like that the things they've brought in so far and I hope they keep it going are interesting twists and options like a mutiny that are not going to dominate the episode and like force that whole episode's narrative to be around the twist. But it's something small that creates opportunity that the players can take the reins on and then it leads to interesting dynamics moving forward. But ultimately the vote, you know,
Starting point is 01:22:53 no one's losing their votes. This and that. Like the vote feels really like fresh and alive, I think, in each of these episodes. Yes. And even Mike Hensky, we haven't seen a lot of him. What's my girl with the novelty shop, Leanna? Lanaya.
Starting point is 01:23:14 Like, again, there are... Alexis. Alexis, I said that, in my journal, we know Alexis, move, get out to, like, and Alexis is vocal. So it's, we got something happening. Yeah. So I'm excited to see what happens. With a swap next week, too. I mean, we'll see.
Starting point is 01:23:34 And it's at 17, so it'll be interesting to see. how they divide those up. I think it's going to be a three-per, I think it could potentially be a three-person tribe. Three-person tribe? Three tribes or three-per-oh, yeah. I think it'll be three tribes. I would imagine they were planning to do it at 18
Starting point is 01:23:56 and then, you know, Robb skirted death and went home. We got somebody walking around with half a thumb. Yeah. And, oh, and for the. record, y'all, like I said, the thumb, the nail will grow back and the skin around it would healed. I inspected all three of Brady's thumbs and the heads on them are completely fine.
Starting point is 01:24:25 I also, completely separate, but when you mentioned Kristen telling Rob, like, I got a broke, I was like, who diagnosed that on Kristen? I know she injured her foot, but but Kristen said Tuka play that game but
Starting point is 01:24:44 Taranda is a doctor sure not that I I mean I think Kristen's injury was legitimate and obviously more severe than Rob's
Starting point is 01:24:54 but it was funny Rob doing all this self-diagnosing and on the way out Chris was like my foot's broken it's like I mean we don't know that
Starting point is 01:25:01 like I got a torn ACL I listen I'm pregnant with an alien. So we self-diagnosis. We self-diagnosis.
Starting point is 01:25:14 Bryce, we are going to Chicago on Wednesday, and there's a tribe swap in Chicago, bro. This is about to be, I think this is about to be one of those special evenings in Chicago, Bryce. I as well, if you are listening or watching, better see if you don't be like Carter. You better get you a ticket. Don't miss the boat. I just, I love the boy. I love how simple Carter is. I like, there is just like he's a hard worker.
Starting point is 01:25:48 He wants to, and I'm so, like, he's, he wants to be in. And I feel like a missed opportunity to not swoop him up. Because again, Mike Penske, he sees the Carter. You know, they, they was very hype to get him on board. So I'm just interested to see the future. It's funny to think about it from Mike, from Pinsky's perspective, where he's off talking to Carter,
Starting point is 01:26:16 and that's when all of the stuff with like the bag and the old, and Mike might have been coming back being like, this Carter kid is a good guy. And they're like, we just went through all this stuff. And Mike's like, all right, I guess there goes that. I mean, yeah. And Carter is definitely a, like, Carter kind of is reminiscent of the late great Keith Nail a little bit.
Starting point is 01:26:37 with his witty one-liners and his southern charm. So any semblance of Keith Nail to grace the screen is always a privilege. He's more Keith Nail than J.T. I think so. And I was looking at him like, oh, he's more J.T. Like a handsome, southern, nice man. But like his one-liners and like his more simplicity, I'm like, yeah, he's more. And he's a little goofy, like, in a lovable way.
Starting point is 01:27:03 Like, J.T is like just a ball of, you know, J.T. would have been in the numbers every vote. Carter's script, J.T. would have been row in the boat himself. You know what I mean? So, um, I would have Keith though. Okay.
Starting point is 01:27:18 I'd rather a Keith type, you know. I think it's, I think it's fun. Fun too. So it is interesting. Well, I guess we'll have to see what the tribe swap brings. Always great to talk with the fellas of Survivor News. Always great to be spun around.
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