RHAP: We Know Survivor - Purple Pants Podcast | Tribal Shifts, Secret Alliances & Spicy Survivor Tea!

Episode Date: May 2, 2025

The baby boys are back with your weekly dose of Survivor News! Join @BriceIzyah, @WendellHolland , and @JackAtkins21 as they dive into all the strategy, shade, and surprises from Survivor 48, Episode ...10—this week joined by special guest Survivor 46’s own Hunter McKnight (@phmackk)!

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Starting point is 00:00:22 It's the Purple Pants, it's the Purple Pants. Hello, hello, and welcome back to the Purple Pants podcast, Survivor News. I serve as your humble and oh so gracious host, Bryce Isaiah, and I thank you so much for tuning in to this week's Survivor News. If you could be so kind to ensure you are subscribed to the Purple Pants podcast.
Starting point is 00:00:47 And as always with your Survivor News, you can watch this audio podcast on video. Head over to the Bryce Isaiah YouTube channel, click subscribe, give this video a thumbs up, and let us know in the comments what you think about this week's recap. The Baby Boys are back, Jack, Wendell, and myself, and we are joined by Survivor 46, Hunter McKnight,
Starting point is 00:01:13 and we are getting into all things Survivor Season 48, Episode 10. We are talking about the reward challenge. We're talking about the immunity challenge. We're talking about is anybody gonna make a move or is it going to just be the standard quo? We are getting into all of it. So let's get in to this week your Survivor News covering Survivor Season 48, Episode 10.
Starting point is 00:02:11 The Baby Boys are back and we decided to bring a friend. Let's welcome back to the podcast, the man who was the first merged boot on Winners at War, but does have ownership of an amazing hotel in Old City, Philadelphia called the Gas Lamp. You should book it today. Let's welcome back to the podcast Wendyzy. Good to be back, good to be back. I am happy to be with the Baby Boys Plus One
Starting point is 00:02:39 on this hot evening. Yes, after a time in Austin, we now can confirm that the Jack Shack does truly exist. Let's welcome the CEO, the president of the Jack Shack, Mr. Jack Garee Atkins. What's up? Yeah, yeah. We're back in LA after an amazing last week in Austin, rocking a new hat that I got in Austin.
Starting point is 00:03:08 So feeling good. We got a great guest today, too. So it's a win a win a win. Well, listen, I don't know what time of year you are listening to the podcast in. But according to me, it is It is dove hunting season. I'm ready to be shot. Let's go. Or let's welcome to the podcast.
Starting point is 00:03:32 The standout star from Survivor Season 46, Mr. Hunter McKnight. Hunter was popping. What's going on? I don't know if standout star is the right description of my time in 46, but I'm happy to be here. I'm excited and it's turkey season by the way. Well, Hunter that makes even more sense because in Philadelphia, they say I got a turkey. But anyway, oh boy. What is that? It's all about the gobble gobble. What is that?
Starting point is 00:04:05 Oh boy. But yeah, welcome, Hunter. Have you been watching this season? What do you think of this season so far? Well, it's been a lot of fun. It's weird because it feels like it's been broken down into two different seasons. The really crazy, who knows what's going to happen first pre-merge part of the season and then the a little bit more predictable post-merge. and so I have no idea where it's going to head from here
Starting point is 00:04:29 but it's been a lot of fun. Yeah it's been crazy. Wendell and I have been on the Bryce and Wynn Tour 48. We had an amazing, when I say an immaculate stop in Philadelphia. It was our biggest Philadelphia crowd since we have started Brice and Wynn. The energy in the air was amazing. The people that came out, we had some special guests, but Hunter and Jack, do you wanna know what my favorite part of the night was?
Starting point is 00:04:59 Of course. Okay, well, I'm just, you know, doing what I do best, working the crowd, saying hello to people. And Jack, I saw some posse members in the building. The posse members said, hey, bros, come over here. Say, hey, y'all. They said, we love Survivor News,
Starting point is 00:05:17 we love the baby boy, Jack, but listen, we gotta talk about Wendy's, okay? We feel like he needs a pep talk. We don't know what's going on. We don't know if he's cleaning his cuticles. We are in the middle of them talking. I said, we got to get window in here. I said, window.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Window came over. They all were looking like, hi. What was like, hey, nice to meet you. They're like, hey, nice to meet you. They're like, hey, hey, we need to talk. OK, I just love how the posse has been loud and right and get it when these together. OK, it's happened to every stop. It is something of the posse gets window together.
Starting point is 00:06:00 When do anything you want to say to? Oh, I. Well, it's very accurate. Speaking of which, is this want to say to. Oh, I was very active. Speaking of which, is this part of the bitters? Wendell's very active. I fell asleep. During that, I should just say, yeah, nonetheless, love it when I get to see the posse out and about. Love the Jack Shack. Love it when people tell me how much I fall asleep. Love it when people tell me that I use my foot massager
Starting point is 00:06:28 during the pod. What? Love it. What? Just working on. You're even out of yourself there. What's that? Oh, they let me know.
Starting point is 00:06:37 I love that I have a very, you know, loving work environment where my coworkers call me out on the pod and then proceed to weaponize their followings because I think the one den is non-existent. I pride myself because I did all of this stuff on TV and no matter what I'd see online, no one would talk trash to me to my face. However, ever since we've been pot in this season, I get in these streets and everybody's calling me out now. So, you know, I love it that the posse, the Jack Shack pull up on me and call me out. It's just great. When then? Where are we? I need my
Starting point is 00:07:22 people. When these people pull up, I need some help. That's all I'm saying. I'm going back to sleep. Okay. Well, thank you. I got to say that one to the last few weeks. I mean, I feel like you've been catching your stride. So I think, you know, maybe it's a little bit of a delayed response. But 49, you know, you might be back in good favor with the posse.
Starting point is 00:07:47 You've been cooking the last few weeks, though. So, you know, you might be back in good favor with the posse. But you've been cooking the last few weeks though. So, you know, respect. Wait, when did the falling out start? When did they start going after him? Episode one of the 48. That's right. I can't live out here. I was like, they are getting your boy, man. I don't know. The funniest comment I think was, I think it was one week that Wendell was not able
Starting point is 00:08:07 to make the podcast. And someone said like minute 50 is when I realized Wendell was. Hey, yo. Hey, yo. Step it up. So, yeah. Wendell's been doing his thing. And listen, we've got three stops left
Starting point is 00:08:26 on the Bryce and Wynn Tour 48. We are headed to the District of Columbia next week. From there, we are headed into Boston. And from Boston, we will be in New York City for the finale of season 48. And it's shaping up to be one of our best ones yet. So if you want to join the fun, if you want to call Wendell out in person,
Starting point is 00:08:51 now is your chance. At low cost. Yeah, take it half off if you got something to say. Yeah, don't give them any ideas. Use cold wind. Yeah. Don't give them any ideas. Use code WINDIN. Head over to BryceandWin.com. But no, Philly really was something truly special.
Starting point is 00:09:14 We had Mary in the building. We had Kyle in the building. We had Star Pull Up. And it was very special. We had some Buddy games. We had our survivor people there. We had some buddy games. We had our survivor people there. We had some new shows that haven't even premiered yet on NBC Peacock. So Philly Philly did his thing.
Starting point is 00:09:34 I will say that when we're thinking about people, they invite to Philly. We just thought that Star would be great for Philadelphia. We're like the Philly people will. Take to Star later, and we're like, please, please come, whatever she says, yes, absolutely. I'm there for y'all. And when she walked in, her energy in particular, now granted, Kyle's great, Mary's mother, Mary,
Starting point is 00:10:00 but Star, the Philly people love Star. And for it to be this episode of hers, it was very special that we had 250 of our hometown there to support her. So it was a great, great night. Yeah. Oh, I know that's awesome. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:18 That helps to blow a little bit. Yeah, definitely. Well, I mean, we got a lot to get into. The Twitter streets have been on fire. What is happening? Good thing we went to Austin last week. That's all I'm saying. If the season's not giving, you know, Twitter is going to give so.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Yeah, this episode. So, you can make it any way you want. Yeah, this episode, oh, am I lagging? No, you're good. Yeah, this episode, it was one of the survivor episodes of all time. I mean, right when we were hoping things might turn around, we're right back to square one. I will say, I thought the editing was really fun this episode. I'm glad Star got some shine on her way out. We've been saying it all season.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Give us more Star. I think there's a lot to unpack with Star as well. But I was just glad we got to see so much of her, especially the rapping. I thought it was a great time. Shout out to Chris Noble. But and then, yeah, I mean, Mitch is catching a lot of heat and I got some things to say about Mitch too,
Starting point is 00:11:33 but I'll save that for when we dive into that. But no, where should we start it off? Hunter, as the guest, where do you want to start things off on this episode? Well, I will say just carrying on with Star, it was nice to see her read on all of it because we haven't gotten her perspective on a lot of what's happening, but she was like spot on with what the viewer wanted, what the promo looked like it was going to happen, like everything
Starting point is 00:11:55 that we expected to happen. Star was at least pushing for it. And so it was good to see that she had that read. It seemed very clear, very obvious that she had a grasp on it, even if it didn't come to fruition. At least it was nice, like you said, that they gave her that bit of shine before the inevitable happened.
Starting point is 00:12:17 It's interesting, because we start the episode off with kind of Star being funny, talking about Mitch's snoring and how we know when Mitch is asleep because he snores super super loud and for me it kind of almost was like are the editors foreshadowing to us right? Like kind of sort of the breakdown of I don't know but I just thought that that was like just funny because I was thinking like what is a trait of everyone here on this podcast or everyone that's played Survivor and The Circle?
Starting point is 00:12:52 Do you, like when you were out there on the island, do you remember something that people did that got on your nerves while you were out there? But like, obviously in a fun, loving way, because I could go first. For me, but like obviously in a fun loving way because I could go first for me on those six short hours that I'm on the island.
Starting point is 00:13:19 The thing that annoyed me the absolute most was Jeremiah from my season. In the morning times, he had the most wicked morning breath. Like, I feel like when you have morning breath, I feel like you can taste it, right? Sometimes, you know, Hunter, if you ain't, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Jeremiah will wake up in the morning and be like, Rice, who you wanna do that? And I'll be like, rise. Who you wanna do that? And I'll be like, oh!
Starting point is 00:13:48 Like, that was the thing that got on my nerves the absolute most, was just like waking up. But it's really weird though, because Jeremiah had a very like specific morning breath set. And I mean, I'll be lying if I didn't say, you know, sometimes I just kind of miss it a little bit. I, you know, you miss it. Sometimes you just want a little rotten egg in the morning.
Starting point is 00:14:17 What? Oh, goodness. Now, whenever I was out there, I think they did a pretty good job of showing it, but my tribe loved, really loved to sing. I'll preface this by saying Soda and Tevin can sing, right? They sing better than some of the people I've ever met. But they came up with this NAMI song. And let me tell you, the producers loved that song. They had us singing it when we
Starting point is 00:14:43 walked in from a challenge, had us singing it when we walked in from a challenge, had us singing it when we walked out, had us singing it around a campfire. I was like, I'm sick of this song. And I think it only got aired once, but we probably sang it 40 times. I was like, can we please stop with that? And then another thing is, okay, anybody going on Survivor, at least the second part, they do two seasons in a row. And it's actually technically winter, like in the Southern hemisphere, which is where you are. So it's a little bit colder,
Starting point is 00:15:12 but it's not that cold, in my opinion. The lows were like 65 or so, but my tribe needed a fire all night, okay? They needed one all night. They were like, we need a fire. But guess who collected the firewood? I did. Okay. To the point and this is like I understand like I have had experiences like collecting firewood and burning fires like a lot of my life. So I understand that I probably am a
Starting point is 00:15:41 little more professional at it. One night the fire had gone out and I'm fine with it. I was fine with it. They were sitting around the fire. I moved, they said, oh good, you're awake. We're out of wood. What? Like, look, lower, we too.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Go get. But see, they couldn't find it. They didn't know where to get the wood. And that's again, I understand they have it like. So we grew up, like we heated our house with the fire. OK, they like to burn the like the palm tree husk. I was like, that ain't going to do anything for you. Right. Like kind of put it out.
Starting point is 00:16:13 And so I would like hop up and I walked in the woods, go come up with the bundle, put it down and go to sleep. And then one day I tried I was like, hey, guys, like, do we have to have a fire at night? And they were like, yes, we do. And I was in the conversation. I was like, all right, then I heard that one that we to have a fire at night? And they were like, yes, we do. And that was in the conversation. I was like, all right then, I heard that one. We will have a fire then. Did you feel like that was important to your game though? Like, even though if you didn't want to do it,
Starting point is 00:16:34 did you feel like you maybe would have had to do it to stay in the good graces or you're just, you're just hunter and a good guy? I think at that time I was just trying to be a good guy. But looking back, I should have, like I should have let him get cold because I think would have made it more interesting to see it fall apart a little more. But, you know, I'm not going to be be mad that I wasn't nice to somebody. So it was one of those things that I wish we'd have to like gather this firewood
Starting point is 00:17:00 because there's only so much firewood in that area and you have to go further and further and further and further each time to collect more. But yeah that was one of my pet peeves out there. It would have been better TV for you to not let them but you're a nice guy. I know I know I look back on that all the time like and even in my audition tape I was talking about how I'm not going to be the guy who just like making everybody comfortable. Then I get out there immediately it's like oh great I got all these people I'm like taking care of. who just like making everybody comfortable. Then I get out there immediately. It's like, oh, great. I got all these people I like to care of.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Yeah. The good graces of people that way, though. So it's a valid move. But it is funny because you're talking about, you know, you obviously are more proficient with the firewood and everything, but it's just it's just firewood. It's out there. It's something they could go to. To work. I would say that. And maybe they were playing me and pretending.
Starting point is 00:17:46 That's usually what they tell me. But they were like, can you show us where you get to Firewood? And so I would have to like take them like, this is where I get it from. And so I don't know. From the trees. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Branches. Yeah, I know. Wendell, anything? I vocalize my frustrations on my season of Ghost Island in a vote out where I let my good buddy know, my good buddy Chris Noble know that I didn't particularly love his rapping too much. And I thought he should stay on the less of that.
Starting point is 00:18:22 On the island, no, actually was he was rapping all the time. Chris Noble did a lot of talking about himself and everything. And he thought he was this phenomenal rapper. And I thought it was actually, I would put a battery in his back. I'd be like, Yo, Chris, give us some bars. Yo, tell me that D Chris? Tell me that Dwayne, Dwayne rap again. I thought that it kept a lot of eyes on him and it was silly and funny and we kind of laughed at it. But yeah, that rapping was, he's not the best rapper. He's a good person, but he's not the best rapper.
Starting point is 00:19:03 So that was it for me. I wish I would have been able to listen to Starz bars more so than Chris's bars. And then we're on that. And then Jack on your season of Survivor, what was the, I mean, the circle, anything from the circle or the forest?
Starting point is 00:19:21 I was alone the whole time pretty much. So I was like, what did you do? What is that about there What did you do? What did you do? You sat out there and me with me. I look in the mirror and be like, oh, what are you doing? Me again?
Starting point is 00:19:33 Yeah. I'm gonna take a breath. Yeah. The mannequin they put in my room, that bothered me a little bit. Did somebody fart? Who was that? Well, they did. So we did have producers that, you know, they could talk to us in our room through a speaker.
Starting point is 00:19:54 And some of them I really enjoyed some of them a little bit less. I had the same guy every night who was awesome. But then every day I had like a different person. So it was always kind of felt like a little bit of a flux. But I do remember there was awesome, but then every day I had like a different person. So it always kind of felt like a little bit of a flux. But I do remember there was one, we had one off day in the middle where we were still confined to our apartments, but we weren't filming. We could kind of chill. They got me like, let me order food.
Starting point is 00:20:17 And let me go up to the hot tub. And I had some production assistant assigned to me for the day. He came, he swung by the hot tub to come say hi. Hadn't worked with him at all. And then I'm sitting in the hot tub and he was like, so you know we're in the latter half of the game, you might wanna start thinking about your strategy. And I was like, I was like,
Starting point is 00:20:38 bro, I'm thinking about my strategy. I don't know who you are, but. At that point in the game, I was doing okay too. So this was before the accident happened. That was a little bit annoying. It wasn't another player, but you're always dealing with stuff that might rub you the wrong way. But I think Mitch is snoring.
Starting point is 00:21:00 It's a fun loving thing. But a lot of people, a lot of people saying Mitch, a little bit asleep in the game right now. What do you guys think about those takes? Mitch's move or lack thereof this episode? Let's preference or preference. Oh, OK, thank you, Hunter. Now that's preference. Preface.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Preference. Hunter, yes, it's preface, but sometimes we let him sit with it. Okay, sorry. Hunter, Hunter, Hunter. He would have said preference 72 more times. That's why I'm so quiet. It's gonna happen. You're gonna be ready to quiet. It's going to happen. You have yourself a tattoo, so you'll be ready to go.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Let's preface this by saying that we love Mitch. OK, Mitch don't miss. However, in my opinion from watching this, I think that Mitch might be caught up in the big guy alliance. And I think that he might be caught up with like trying to get into that as his way to make a move and get him big. And I think that he might be missing the opportunity of like the unusual suspects that he could gather up. And I think when, I don't know if it was Mary
Starting point is 00:22:26 he was talking to, but it was like, you wanna be at the bottom of that alliance, or do you wanna be at the top? And I also thought that was crazy even for Mary to pitch that, of like literally Mary being like, it's me, Camilla, and Star, you be running us. Like, you would be our gym teacher, Miss Alliance. And I think that Mitch again, Like, you would be our gym teacher, Mr. Lyons.
Starting point is 00:22:49 And I think that Mitch, again, and I can see where you can get lost in being like, I don't wanna work with y'all. Like, I wanna be with the big dogs. Like, I'm a big dog, I wanna be over there. But I think that that might be maybe his Achilles heel is that like he can't see what he could potentially do over there. Mm hmm. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 00:23:09 I will it is hard because you don't get all the information that's out there. And so who knows what kind of conversations he had with star and the Mary to make him feel like he can't trust him if he's just basically going to offer the one vote. And I guess I'll preference this. I got voted out before Mitch did on my season. So this is the guy who maybe doesn't know what he's talking about. It is kind of weird that he hasn't jumped at it, but he isn't getting all the information that we're getting and so maybe he feels like he's in a better spot. But it was, you had your fingers crossed that maybe this was the moment that he was going to make this happen and jump across. But he was snoring, I guess. Wendell, what about, I have a lot of thoughts on this, but I want to kick it to you Wendell
Starting point is 00:23:53 before I get in there. I think you could write a dissertation on this. I think the person that Mitch is, maybe who I just, I just think that there might be some degree of like, and again, we know Mitch in real life. We love Mitch in real life, but there might be some degree of I'm looking at this group, this, oh my gosh, this is the like strong, whatever, handsome, cool, dominant group. And there might be some sort of, I want to be a part of this group, or I've
Starting point is 00:24:26 historically wanted to be a part of this group. Um, being someone growing up with a stutter, I don't know what it's like to walk in his shoes, you know? So there might be something where it's like, nah, I'm just, I'm just going to cling to this group, even if I'm whatever the case may be, and, and look for any reason not to get with this other group, when traditionally in New Era Survivor, people are trying to bust up those groups and everything flying like shrapnel.
Starting point is 00:24:56 So I'd say it's so tough to watch. And again, I feel like for half of this season, I've been comparing this season to Ghost Island because a lot of people have been saying like, hey, take that shot at Dom and Wen, take that shot. Hey, Laurel, Donathan, take that shot at Dom and Wen. And now we're looking at, or Angela, or Kellen tried it. Try, you know, Smashing, kind of tried. Like in this case, we're watching these people that y'all, y'all didn't have the critical mass, but you had 50 percent.
Starting point is 00:25:29 You guys try something. And in Mitch's case, it's just it's difficult to watch. We know Mitch. We've been watching Mitch play a really strong game as far as like he's great in challenges. And we know he's a smart man. Sometimes when you're out there in your head, it's like I need to make sure I'm here the next day, but it almost looks like he's done that delaying the
Starting point is 00:25:57 inevitable right now. It's like, all right, they go and get to you soon. You're just you're watching all these other people then it's gonna be you. So yeah, and I can I can like agree with that. At least on my season, there was like a certain point that I was really going to start trying to push things. But I felt like I needed to get another of course, it's final eight, eight or five, seven, because the challenges change. Right now they're in that like, body weight balancing. I don't think that's Mitch's like
Starting point is 00:26:26 expertise. He's really great at the ending carnival games, tossing things, landing things. And so he may be like, if I can just like stick with them until this point, then I can take off. But who knows how it didn't work for me. So we'll see what happens with them. But what's weird is he has a read on it and you hear this inner dilemma of like, I know people are at home are saying I should do this. It's not like he's just completely naive and just like going along with it. He like has that inner dilemma.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Yeah. Before you answer Jack, because now, because I feel like you can weigh in on this and Hunter definitely too. I feel like in the new era, right? And before maybe this season, right? We feel like in the new era, right, and before maybe this season, right, we got rid of the voting blocks, right? And so people were kind of like, one day we'll vote this way. The next day, a whole group of people will vote another way,
Starting point is 00:27:16 right? And so it's kind of like made what we love about this new era so great. You hear Mitch's point saying that he just can't trust star, right? Like, and is there any world where it's like, see how this goes? Like, try this way, see what star does? Or is he right that like, if you can't trust somebody, you just can't go with that plan? Because like, for me, I'm like, let's do a Hail Mary, see what happens, see what can go with this. But I don't know, it seemed like Mitch was just being like, I can't trust her.
Starting point is 00:27:47 And you do have to go with your instincts and survivor. Can't trust somebody. What you gonna do? Yeah. So can I give my Mitch? Okay, okay. I was about to comment on that in a second. I was gonna address your question too.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Okay. Okay, this might your question too. Okay. Okay, this might be a really high take. This might be a really high take. And this might be a little biased because I'm a Mitch fan. Got to kick it with him last week at Lucky Duck in Austin, Texas, but that is quack, quack. But, so okay. So prior to this episode obviously, I think we would have liked to see
Starting point is 00:28:28 Mitch be a little bit more active. But at times we see certain people weren't necessarily wanting to work with him. I also saw someone theorize that I thought was really interesting that the reason we haven't you're you could put the glasses down. I'm going to know. We need to know where you go. I'm about to defend it. I think harder than anybody on this. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:47 So, previous episodes, again, maybe could be a little bit more active. I saw someone theorize that the reason we hadn't seen a ton of Mitch recently is because a lot of his confessionals might be him thinking he's really in that core alliance when he's not, so they're not going to show that. But this episode, I actually think that it makes a lot of sense for Mitch to not shake, like rock the boat. And here's why. So it's less to your question, Bryce, it's less about to me less about his distrust of star and Mary and more about who he does trust and what would happen in the instance that he flips. So Joe wins immunity. So they can't target Joe. Eva, they know publicly has an idol. And so if the four of them actually
Starting point is 00:29:32 amount some sort of rebellion, they go to tribal, you know, assuming someone catches wind of it, Eva might play her idol. She also could use her safety without power, send one of the minority four out and then retain the majority. And then, okay, what? So even if Eva doesn't play her idol, what, they put four votes on Eva. If the plan goes swimmingly and they go to rocks and get out someone from the opposite side, who goes home? In that instance, that would allegedly benefit Mitch. It would be Shaheen or Kyle. Kyle's probably Mitch's closest ally aside from maybe Camilla at this point. And so to me, Mitch, this would be a huge swing for Mitch where on paper, his best case scenario is that what, like Kyle goes home, right?
Starting point is 00:30:17 That doesn't make sense for Mitch. I think it makes a lot more sense for Mitch to go with an easy vote here. And then hopefully at final seven, I think there's a very real possibility, at least I'm holding out hope that Mitch, Mary, Camilla can bring over Kyle and then make their big move. Whereas if he makes a move last night, what? He goes to rocks, Eva might play an idol, Joe's safe. So what? Then like if Eva plays her idol, then they vote for Shaheen and then Kyle, Mitch, Mary, Camilla draw rocks in which case 75% of the time one of them goes home anyways. Like that is not the time to make a move. Now I think before this Mitch could have been moving and shaking a little bit more and I think going forward
Starting point is 00:30:59 I hope he does I'm a little worried, you know, it's too little too late But I know people are really like itching for this. I don't think this was the episode to do it given how everything shook out. But that was, hey, I don't think Mitch should have gone to rocks like it doesn't make sense. My pushback on you is the idea to go into rocks was an idea. But I thought Kyle came to Camilla and said,
Starting point is 00:31:24 I'm not gonna organize it, but I thought Kyle came to Camilla and said, I'm not going to organize it, but you get the numbers and I'm voting with you. No, he said he wasn't. I think he effectively said he wasn't going to vote for Joe, but he would allow the plan to formulate and allow it to happen. But if Kyle isn't willing to vote for Joe, then they're going to have four votes at most. But what if it was Eva? That would do what?
Starting point is 00:31:51 Jack is saying in the event that somehow she or they snipped out the plan and she could use one of these things of hers. I mean, we weren't shown much of that idea. Obviously I think for those players, maybe it would have been best to try to put five votes on Eva. But given the logic that Kyle was saying about Joe, it was like going for Eva is almost an attack on Joe. And it just doesn't seem like Kyle necessarily wants to do that yet. And I like his idea of allowing Camilla to pull the trigger on that. But obviously, in this instance, Kyle is the essential vote there. It's not really going to happen without him because Shaheen's like,
Starting point is 00:32:26 I think next week Kyle is going to be in a swing position to make a move. And I think if Kyle can switch over to that other side, he has a great shot to win the game. I hope he doesn't stick with Joe, Eva and Shaheen. I think Shaheen has some like valid reasons to shake things up. And obviously if this happens next week, which is really going to be like the pivotal moment, Mitch might have a little bit more wiggle room. Now, I don't, you know, Mitch at that point wouldn't be a big, have a lot of agency in that move necessarily. So I don't necessarily know if Mitch can win. But I don't think anything he would have done last night
Starting point is 00:33:03 really would have given him a good, any sort of significant chance to actually improve his stock to win the game. So if you're saying that you don't see it for Mitch to win, wouldn't it be, again, I only played six hours, my question is, isn't it better, don't you wanna see somebody go down swinging and crawl like that, but like scarring out like.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Agreed. I think you have to be strategic in when you're going to go down swinging. And I think the idea, so it's what it's okay. Finally, I try to force rocks, even though Joe is safe and Eva might play plane idol or she could use her safety without power or whatever. And even if that all works out what like Mary Camilla and bitch would also have to draw
Starting point is 00:33:54 rocks so over you know, majority of the time one of them is going to go home and he's closer with those people seemingly then with star at least he's closer with Camilla or does he say let's get through this vote final seven I could put it all out there and try to get Camilla Mary Mitch Kyle to be the four I think that's a more reasonable option and obviously if that works out I still don't think he's like a front runner by any means but say they take out Joe and they take out Eva and maybe they take out like Kyle Mitch might see a path with like Mary and Camilla. Now I think Camilla would win in that instance from what we've seen, but I think that's sort of
Starting point is 00:34:30 his best bet to give himself a shot, right? Okay, listen, I'm learning the game from you, Jack. I will say I think there is some as a viewer we want something to happen because it feels like we see the chips going and so that buys on to it. But I will also say, even if the plan doesn't work, since they're not targeting Kyle or Camilla, the plan to still use the four, they're not targeting one of the four that you mentioned that they can use for the seven. And so making this move now gives them almost more wiggle room if it does go wrong.
Starting point is 00:35:02 If they do aim at Eva, she plays her idol and Star goes home. They've at least still got their four that you just said they would use and the idols gone. True, but if they go to rocks then Star and Eva are now safe and then Kyle, Mary, Kamala, all of which go home. I don't think they go to rocks. I think Kyle gets scared because he knows about this. Like he goes in and he says I was scared. I'm not risking my game. He's not burned Joe.
Starting point is 00:35:31 He hasn't burned Eva like you have some point yet to be like, okay, I respect your self-preservation in that moment. You can't hold someone at fault for not. But I know maybe the cast can't I don't know. They might they might hold you to it. But because it did seem like because Kyle, like you say, Kyle was like giving an opening to Camilla to make that move even with who he pulled on the journey, which I thought was
Starting point is 00:35:54 actually like pretty interesting. Not the journey. The reward was pretty interesting. And so surely in his head, he wasn't like I'm gonna give Camilla a chance to make a move that may result in me pulling a rock to go home. Like that would be. So you think Kyle would flip? I think he would have.
Starting point is 00:36:11 I think he would have flipped in a way that makes him look okay. Hey, Hunter, do you hear Bryce's bra is getting soggy right now? What is he doing? His britches, I think, are starting to moisten. You when you mentioned what Kyle did with who he picked? His britches, I think, are starting to moisten. When you mentioned what Kyle did with who he picked, my britches started to get a little moist. I thought it was Wendell dipping his feet in a foot bath.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Oh, my God. Between the roller and the... I need one of those. Hunter, don't give him any ideas. However, when Kyle won this reward challenge and he picked the people that he picked, I'm sitting there and I'm at the watch party and I'm looking at place. Are you looking at place? I was good.
Starting point is 00:36:58 I look there was no name. Can never be too sure. And survivor, but I'm looking at Kyle like, what is you doing? There was no name plate here. Can never be too sure in Survivor. But I'm looking at Kyle like, what is you doing? I like, on first glance, I'm like, why are you bringing Camilla? Why are you bringing Eva? I see why you're bringing Shaheen.
Starting point is 00:37:19 I just felt like from my first me seeing it, I'm like, there are a lot of other people that you could kind of just bring to let other things happen. However, I was the perfect group to bring. I, I, again, I was at a Bryson Wynn party. I had a cocktail. I was, you know, watching the screen, I said, what's going on? But when Kyle gave his explanation to their screen and said, I'm doing this for Camilla. And I said, well, how the hell are you doing this for Camilla? She right with you. But when he said, I want those other people to be back at. I want those other people to be back at camp
Starting point is 00:38:02 to get mad. So that way. So that we're, whoa! So that with Camilla. Oh! Camilla come back with the plan. Oh! Oh, what is going on? Oh!
Starting point is 00:38:21 I had to excuse myself from the theater cause I said my brain just doesn't work like that. Like, I would have never thought, like, my mind would have been like, okay, bring on with us so we could talk. But in my mind, him saying, keep them out here. Let them be hungry. Let them be mad because they'll be more... ...appetite. More hungry? Let them be hungry. Let them be mad because they'll be more appetite.
Starting point is 00:38:49 More hungry? I'd be more... Enticed? Enticed. More motivated? More motivated. Motivated. More preference. There'll be more preference to then be so mad to want to work with her.
Starting point is 00:39:10 I thought that was genius. I mean, my seat had a visible stain in it on the theater. So I apologize to the fringe bar for seat seven in the front row. Yeah, I thought, well, I thought the pics were great for that reason. I also thought they were great in the sense that even if he wants to keep working with his alliance, he picks Eva, he picks Shaheen, he gets to bring Camilla into the fold a little bit and uses a good cover. And then Joe is the perfect person to, you can go back and be like, Joe, I trust you
Starting point is 00:39:40 so much that I want to let these other people eat because I knew I could trust you to babysit. I trust you the most. And I think that's a very reasonable explanation as well too. My only thing with Kyle is now I think Kyle is playing the strongest game of anyone right now in terms of, I mean, I guess Joe and Eva have a really strong hold, but Kyle, I like where his head's at the most. The only thing with this episode is that, A, I think he lets Camilla, you know, lock and load and get ready to pull the trigger. But I think Kyle knows that he is the essential vote this round. And so you can let Camilla go line things up as much as you want.
Starting point is 00:40:19 But if you're not going to take the shot too, it's not going to work. The other issue with that, the other issue with that is if Kyle gets to the end with Camilla and he's been saying, I'm going to let you do the take the shot. I think Camilla has a great argument at final travel council to be like, oh, you know that move where we blindsided you that you thought Kyle was with you. He wanted it to happen, but he didn't want, he didn't want to like take the ball into his court and do it himself. So he made me do it. So I did the dirty work. But Kyle was on board. I think that would turn Joe and a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:40:48 I think that would win Camilla again. So Kyle's giving Camilla a lot of ammunition here. But is he, though? Because I also kind of feel. But listen, I also kind of felt like it's kind of like when I meet somebody and I go on a date and it's so fun. And then I'm like, Hey, good morning. And they text me back.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Good morning. Okay. A week later, good morning. How are you? And they hit me with a GM. Then three days later, I'm like, Hey, and now you get the thumbs up. Listen to me. It's a world where Kyle is so caring for Camilla, right?
Starting point is 00:41:28 But Kyle also is playing his own game. And you're right, he is actually the part. He could put his foot down, okay? He's a size 12. He could put that size 12 foot down right now and rock with Camilla's plan. But he's not because he's still staying with the other people that keep the power and so at this point he's empowering Camilla. Camilla like good morning and he's doing the thumbs up.
Starting point is 00:41:53 So I think in my mind what Kyle was doing is setting himself up the best actual way. He's being connected with Camilla, but he's like, yeah, it's like when I want to do something and I like something and I'm like, hey, window, what do you think about this? When do we hit me with the we're getting there? Yeah, that's a great point. It's a great point because Kyle is really set up well. And if he wants to stick with this group, like Joe and Eva and Shaheen, he's letting Camilla spin her wheels, think that she's with him, be okay with the fact that he's
Starting point is 00:42:23 not going to necessarily flip and leaving all his options open. But the real question is like at what point, like I don't think Kyle going to the end with Joe is the best thing for his game. So at what point does he actually get ready to take the shot? Now if Kyle can do it next week, then I think it all played out ideally. I think it plays out much better doing it next week than doing it this week, because then Kyle is going to be a target. but it's a little bit easier to navigate once he gets like the final six, you know, you win a challenge, you make whatever. Whereas if he did it now, I think it would be a little bit earlier. So if Kyle can pull the trigger next week, I think he will win the season and I think he will very, very much deserve
Starting point is 00:43:01 to win the season. But if not, then I think, you know, he might end up sitting next to Joe at the end and lose. I was actually surprised this woman ever. He showed more allegiance to Joe than I expected him to when he was talking about Camilla wanting to make the move. Like I was I was really surprised that he is like, I don't want Joe to go. And I'm like, whoa, I thought you were like, ride or die with Camilla this whole time. Like, why was there this pause? But because if Joe go, who's the next,
Starting point is 00:43:29 if, because at this point, Joe was a meat shield for Kyle. And so if Joe go, then it's Kyle. So I think there is something to keeping, well, I mean, I keep Joe around too. But there is something to keep Joe around too, but there is something to keep Joe around. So, so a couple things. First of all, Kyle, when he was talking to Camilla, I think he said, Hey, look, I blindsided a lot of those people on the jury and I don't want to do another one right now or something like that. From my perspective, okay, Kyle, that's a convenient excuse for right now for you to say why you
Starting point is 00:44:05 don't want to send Joe up there. I think it's more so your allegiance to Joe. And like Bryce said, you're sending Camilla the thumbs up now. Like, I truly view it as him kind of pulling back a little from Camilla. And to speak about Camilla, I was kind of like watching her demeanor this episode. And like like you can see in her face that she got a lot going on up here and as she's like walking by the whole group sitting here or whatever, like you could tell like she wants to do something. She wants to say something, but she's keeping a lot in because it's like her hands are almost tied. But yeah, I just, every time they showed her, I'm like, man, I see the gears moving
Starting point is 00:44:49 just like through her eyes up there, but geez, like y'all had this Guyanese dynamic duo, Kyle, ride with your girl. That's what I was, I wanted him to do something with her. And I'm scared that he's not gonna shoot that shot. I hope he does. Yeah, it's self preservation. And so again, only one person can win.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Somebody out there, Hunter? Someone's driving by real slow. I'm looking. It's my cousin, it's my cousin. I hope so, because Hunter don't got no blinds. But anyway, that's a story for a different time. But listen, did we shift gears for 2.3 seconds? Cause I gots to know, first of all, okay, Eva.
Starting point is 00:45:36 I love my girl Eva, right? And I just, is this something we missing? Because I feel like when we saw that big episode with Eva, we saw Star be the first person to embrace her. When they merged, we saw Star give her the idol. Okay? We saw them come together. And the second Eva is at this dinner that Kyle is throwing,
Starting point is 00:46:07 Eva like, we can get rid of her. I'm tired of her. Get rid of her. Like, Eva, girl, her idol is in your pocket. You can't hit her that much. But again, my other criticism to Star is that I don't care how much of a moment, I don't care how much of a whatever. Hey Hunter, thank you so much for getting that firewood and putting my idol in that
Starting point is 00:46:40 fire and it blooms and now I get an idol. I'm keeping my idol. Keep your idols. Don't give it to nobody because. I didn't even give mine to Jeff. I kept on like hold of it so tight. I didn't even give mine to Jeff. But they yanked that thing from me.
Starting point is 00:46:57 You know you don't get to keep them. You exit that game and they put you that tent and they're like, all right, sit here and think about what you did and you gotta give us your idol. It's like, that's like the psychological part where they put you that tent and they're like, all right, sit here and think about what you did. You got to give us your idol. It's it's like, that's like the psychological part. They put you that tent and they're like, you got to sit here for 15 minutes and think about this next thing you're
Starting point is 00:47:10 about to say. That was crazy. But yeah, it is, it is wild to see, uh, star this, the reception of star by Eva. I will also say it ain't because Eva's hungry because she has eaten in every episode since I can't even count back how far I was so surprised when she got pics first because she's eaten at every single one. I feel like we get a montage of her like eating or burping or whatever at some point in an episode. Is that like has there been a reward that she hasn't been on? Like, maybe way back at the merge or fake merge? I don't know if you guys go to that one,
Starting point is 00:47:49 but I was like, oh, she is eating well. And that's an ode to Kyle, because like, if you can't pick Joe, you can pick Eva, and Joe's gonna feel like, and so again, it's very smart on Kyle, but yeah, Eva, she, I love to know like more about what the star thing is, because everyone is just or again, maybe it's just even knowing that everyone is wanting to pile on star.
Starting point is 00:48:16 So it's like her just being like, OK, let me just cast my vote. Keep me safe with the strong alliance. But it is something that does tickle my brain a little bit. She said, she said, okay, so she says she doesn't see things like any gray areas. So maybe she sees stars somewhere on the outside. And so if you're on the outside, then you are the opposition. And my group is the good group and you're on the outside, then you are the opposition. And my group is the good group and you're on the outside. And so it's very easy for her to say,
Starting point is 00:48:48 this is who I want out. And to be very forceful with that. I don't know. It's not her name. It is her idol. I have a question for y'all that might be something that we don't know the answer to. And I've seen it. Not not not he asking questions to.
Starting point is 00:49:09 OK, window right now. What what can they drop in the comments to to to know that I'm talking right? Give me a question mark. Hey, my big red emoji one big red emoji question mark. Hook me up. OK. And that's your point. Big red emoji one big red emoji question mark. Hook me up. OK, I'm going to anybody that can put all of the emojis that we've requested in order Jack. No, I don't say it.
Starting point is 00:49:35 All right. Well, now Joe had something that he said about Star. Oh, yeah. Then I was like, what do you mean, bro? We love Joe over here. We love Joe over here. We know Joe. But Joe said something to the effect of
Starting point is 00:49:59 she's his kryptonite. Yes. I wrote that. Like anyone back home would say, no, they didn't put you with any kind of cut off. And then he kind of said, like, she's his kryptonite or something like that. I just want to know what that means. Yeah, that was really confusing. And there was no context. So it was like, is this, is this like, oh, he loves, like he loves Starb and he knows it's going
Starting point is 00:50:28 to interrupt his game. So that's like his kryptonite or is it like, oh, he just doesn't like Starb. So because it's his kryptonite because it just like drags him down. It's a great question. Because a lot of people were. I will say, I think it was, I think it's like personality wise. I will say if if someone there's like a personality type for me that is hard for me to feel like I matched their energy, like
Starting point is 00:50:50 someone who like really needs like loves to give affirmation and really needs affirmation. Otherwise they feel like you don't like them. I'm like, like those kind of people, I feel like they don't like me because I'm not going to be like over the top, like sharing as much like soda was that way. She really, like really cared for people and really wanted like to feel like you receive that and I'm not good at that. And that's why I talked to them. I was like, have you have to make sure soda knows that I don't dislike her because I'm not like matching her energy. And so that may be that but it did not do a good job of of explaining it.
Starting point is 00:51:23 It just made it really weird. It's just a kryptonite for whatever reason. And then he said the people at home would know. I'm like, oh, wow. OK. Well, if I was on the if I was on the tribe with Joe, he'd be my kryptonite, too. And everybody at home would know why too. So. OK.
Starting point is 00:51:52 So I would. Yeah, I would guess maybe a personality thing. I mean, we love star, but obviously she's a big personality, very boisterous. And Joe is, you know, pretty low key family man. So maybe if I had to guess, I would guess he just means he's not used to the energy that Star is putting out. But I feel like Star got a bad shake the whole way. Yeah. We all love Star.
Starting point is 00:52:17 And now sometimes those big personalities, again, on the island can be a little much, but for me, Star, I think I would get like, Star's hilarious. Everything she says is like so funny, so positive too. Yeah, like that moment, that moment when she's like hyping Eva up whenever Eva's having that really hard time, you're like, oh, that was like one of the most endearing moments for me towards Star. I feel like we haven't seen much of her, but her just excitement for Eva in that moment was very endearing.
Starting point is 00:52:47 But again, you had to take it with a grain of salt because it is a different environment out there where you're like hungry and sleep deprived, but that kind of gets taken away whenever he's like, people at home would know, you know, if he could say out here, this kind of energy gets him out, but he's like, I got home is the same way. What, Jack, give us your insights on Shaheen. Where, what type of position do you feel like he's in this episode?
Starting point is 00:53:14 Cause I feel like we didn't really get to see much of him. What does Shaheen have in end game? Yeah, Shaheen's situation I think is interesting because he doesn't have his, like, he's in a pretty similar situation to Kyle. have an end game? Yes, Shaheen's situation, I think, is interesting because he doesn't have as like he's in a pretty similar situation with Kyle, I feel like, except Shaheen doesn't have as many connections on the other side, just partly by nature, like, you know, Kyle has his original orange people with Mitch and with Camilla. Shaheen doesn't really have anybody else.
Starting point is 00:53:44 But I've been a proponent of the fact that I feelilla Shaheen doesn't really have anybody else. But I've been a proponent of the fact that I feel like Shaheen is a mover and a shaker. Like he is a strategic guy. I feel like he is willing to make a move when he needs to. But the problem is right now is like he's attached with Joe and Eva and he doesn't really have a lot of agency with people on the other side. So I would reckon that Shaheen knows that he probably doesn't want to go to the end with Joe and Eva. But at the same time, it's like, how is Shaheen supposed to take that swing? It's kind of where I'm like, I think Shaheen knows, like in his mind knows
Starting point is 00:54:19 he's got to do something. But at the same time, it's like if I were him, I'd be like, what is my move? Like, I'm not going to abandon my two closest allies necessarily just go get like jump on board with Camilla and Mary because they don't have as much of a working relationship. So, and we've seen, I mean Shaheen and Camilla maybe like we've seen Shaheen planting seeds. They just aren't as strong as, I feel like Shaheen and Kyle, very similar situation, but Kyle just has the stronger relationships and has a little bit more agency. But I feel like Shaheen and Kyle, very similar situation, but Kyle just has the stronger relationships and has a little bit more agency. But I feel like Shaheen's mind is in the same place.
Starting point is 00:54:48 But at this point, I do think it could be hard for him to win, because it's like, if he goes down with Joe and Eva, he probably doesn't win. And if he rocks the boat and switches things up, well, now he's got to deal with Kyle and Camilla. And then I think he might not beat them either. So he just kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place. Yeah. Last week's episode, I think was really good for Shaheen because it was a lot of
Starting point is 00:55:10 it was from his point of view. And he got to talk about how he was planting seeds. This week's episode did not feel as good for him. I maybe I'm just misreading it, but I still think there's a chance that Shaheen can beat Joe and Eva in the end because of the jury at least the first three jurors and they're being bitter. This like annoyed at this whole like strong alliance. And David was kind of the face of it. But you're talking about David goes back now and is just mad at Joe because of this whole betrayal thing. Like he's frustrated with Joe and Eva. Even I think in some of his exit press,
Starting point is 00:55:46 he was talking about how he felt like he was working with people who just did... I mean, he called him what? Like a big dumb dumb or something in his exit press. Like, seriously. Okay, don't quote me on that, but I think I read that in some tweet or on Reddit or something where he had said that. And so if he has that perspective then it's he's carrying that energy back and rechanneling any of the animosity that they had towards him towards that group of like word the strong people and so if Eva sorry if Eva and Joe make it to the end they're going to have to cut ties with Camilla, with all these
Starting point is 00:56:26 little people. They have to be the bad guy and you may face a bitter jury with this group. I don't know. We'll see. Because even Mary felt betrayed by Joe and Eva because she thought she was in that group and then all of a sudden they like swiped David's knees out from underneath them. And Eva and Eva told her, like, I mean, I essentially I'm like, we'll put it on him just to preserve you for another day. Another couple of days. But I can't guarantee that I won't not write your name. I know. I won't be doing that.
Starting point is 00:57:04 Eva, I'm down the street. My car ran out of gas. Can you come give me some gas? Yeah. Can I use that gas that Star gave you? Get down the road. It's just like, no, no. But also the same thing with Mary and Joe. Well, Joe was trying to work the jury and Mary was like, what are you doing? So I don't think their jury standing is looking super like super great at the moment. Yeah, I mean, Eva's plays it so black and white that if you're not with her and she kind of makes that clear
Starting point is 00:57:40 and if you're, she's sending you the jury but you've never even gotten an inkling that she like wants to work with you. It's sort of like, why would you really want to vote? I mean, Eva is a great ally. You want to work with an Eva, but if you're not with an Eva, then it's sort of like, all right, well, I guess. Yeah. What would it take for Joe and everyone's opinion to win the game?
Starting point is 00:58:04 What would he need to do at this point? Joe? Yeah, keep doing what he's doing. I think I think despite a bitter jury, I think Joe is almost making it off. That was his third individual immunity. I think he's almost making an offer people can't refuse. And I think David might even have enough time to cool off a little bit over there. Um, yeah, I think Joe, if he's sitting at that end, there could be a bitter juror or two, but like,
Starting point is 00:58:36 I think he is making an offer people can't refuse. Especially if he has it his way. He probably ends up there with Eva and Shaheen. And, you know, I don't know if the jurors would prefer one of those options much more, maybe Shaheen. But Shaheen, like I said, hasn't developed the greatest relationships necessarily with the rest of the jury. From what we've seen, he's been pretty in with that crew. And I'm not saying that's Shaheen's ideal final three either.
Starting point is 00:59:01 But Joe in that group definitely looks like the ringleader and kind of be like if you're a little bit bitter towards all of them you kind of just have to be like alright well at least Joe was manning the shit a little bit. And was at least straightforward about it if they do get to the end unless Shaheen makes something happen it makes it very clear it would have seemed like Shaheen went along with what Joe was the poster child for and so even then it'd be hard to give it to someone who is a lesser version of the thing that you find annoying if it follows that path.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Agree. I know people compare this season a lot to Ghost Island. Not sure if that's... Do people or is it just me? I think it's a, I was thinking a similar thing. Like I think there are definitely parallel. So I guess my next question is with only four or three episodes left, is there any is there any gas in this season's
Starting point is 00:59:56 tank to actually be better than a ghost island or put your glasses on? Look, I will say, I will say watching a season like this is less fun, but this is the kind of season you want to be on to run. Like you want your game to go this way. Yeah. It's boring as a viewer, but like give me my check, like run, run my, like see them 46 was all over the place. Like who knew who was voting for who or why?
Starting point is 01:00:29 And it was not fun to play on. All right. It was not fun because next thing I know, my two close allies want to vote each other out. So it was weird, but this one is the kind you want to play on. And so you can't be like, these players are terrible. But this season is boring. Nah, this season is kind of boring because they're taking care of what they need to take care of. And that is a testament to them playing well.
Starting point is 01:00:53 Yeah. Bryce, to your question, I think something needs to happen next week. Like, if they can't make it happen next week, even after next week, if people are open to making moves, well, Eva and Joe still have an idol and safety without power. So it's going to be a little bit, I think, too little too late. So I'm hoping, you know, I think it's going to really rest in Kyle's hands next week. I'm hoping he's willing to make move. And at least again, it might still even Joe might have too much for the move to work. But at least if you flush some things out, maybe someone goes at and then like maybe Eva goes at five and then Joe loses and fired.
Starting point is 01:01:30 And then something else opens up. But right now, the thing is, if Joe does go, I think the game is wide open because even like, because then it's like, okay, well, an Eva versus a Kyle versus a Camilla at that like, who wins that? Like, you know, at least it would be interesting final three. But the post-merge has definitely been a little bit of a struggle. So yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Okay. Well, I mean, well, I guess we'll have to, okay. I got a couple things. Hey. I've been looking at my notes the whole time. Okay. Okay. Was that chat? You know what? We're cool.
Starting point is 01:02:19 Hunter. One shout out to the Mary saying the revolution will be televised. Okay. That was fun. In star thinking that her quote was I have to convince Mitch to be part of the revolution. Star, you ain't convincing Mitch to be part of no revolution. I'm gonna give you that one. Also shout out to star for her bars. And at the end, I think this
Starting point is 01:02:46 part was really funny. And when we have been around Mitch, we since we met him, Bryce, long ago, when he starts stuttering, we are patient and we listen to him. And we don't we haven't joked about his stutter or anything like that. And in his presence, it's almost like we don't we haven't joked about his stutter or anything like that. And in his presence, it's almost like we don't talk about it much. We just let Mitch be Mitch. You know, it is not right. But star in tribal. I was.
Starting point is 01:03:17 Mitch comes up to me and says, you need to play your shot in the dark. And you know what? Respectfully to Mitch, he didn't stutter. When she said that, I was like, that's hilarious. And it got them all laughing. It's like, this shows her personality. Like when she was on the island with him and the way she said it, I just thought it was so funny.
Starting point is 01:03:39 And it was, and yet this is a part of Mitch, but for Mitch to be able to like laugh at himself regarding that, I thought that was cute and fun and funny, that's all. Question, well, I love that moment too. Questions, something we didn't talk about, should Starr have played her shot in the dark? Well, that's a question I got for you, Jack,
Starting point is 01:04:01 or Hunter, numbers wise, even though you're gonna say it doesn't really matter. But at this point, because what is a one in five shot? One is six. So if it being eight of them left is the quantity of the gratitude higher at this point or it doesn't matter? Well, you got to rephrase that question. Hunter, okay. So you won't.
Starting point is 01:04:29 You know what I meant. We've talked about this before, like I know you're asking. Well, explain it to Hunter, cause he's long. Yeah, Hunter, I see you look a little. He lost me at the quantitative part. So obviously the odds of being safe are the same. But of course, when there's fewer people left in the game, like maybe the value of being
Starting point is 01:04:52 safe is more important. Although if you know you're the target, it's always going to be the same. And then but also, when the numbers get lower, your vote also matters more. So losing your vote, I would say kind of is an equal trade off throughout the whole thing. Like if you have 13 people, like, yeah, you might not be the target, but you also might not your vote might not be that important. Now in this instance, I'm a little bit, I think it's fine that star voted because if you if she knows that
Starting point is 01:05:20 she and Mary are the targets, and that the vote is probably going to be split, and that Mary doesn't have a shot in the dark to play so that Mary will be voting and then Star plays her shot in the dark and it misses, then it's going to be, you know, assuming maybe everybody voted evenly, it would be four Mary, four Star. But if Star plays her shot in the dark, it misses now it's four star three mary and star goes home um obviously if if star knows she's the ultimate target on a revote though then she should just play it but maybe there's a world where someone like lost a vote or someone um or mary like does something or maybe the votes are skewed towards mary i think it's worth in a split to have her because right if Star plays it
Starting point is 01:06:06 like say it was going to be four to four and they were going to vote out Mary on the revote but then Star plays her shot in the dark misses it now it's four Star three Mary in that instance she should have just voted so I don't think it was cut and dry either way. Yeah, the hindsight is always makes it way easier. Even looking back whenever I went out, my plan, my last interview with the producer was, I'm gonna play my shot in the dark, and if it misses, I'm gonna play my idol. That was going into tribal, that was my plan.
Starting point is 01:06:38 But then when you're sitting there and listening, you're like, if I throw my vote over there, I may get through without even having to use my shot in the dark or my idol. It was wrong. And of course you look back, I should have done all this, this and this, obviously. And you lay awake and I thinking about it. But that may have been stars thinking, maybe they are going to throw more at Mary.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Maybe it is going to be even I want to make sure that I have a chance to get it. But you wish you would have seen it. But again, it's such a small chance. It's such a small one in six. That's the same chance that Eva had to get the second idol was at her. That happened in one third. But did they get a new slow motion camera? Cinematography, I was pretty crazy. Because that thing went, it just went on. Like the slow motion went for a while. CGI, they just they just added that one button. They were like, sure we do use the sanctuary every reward, but we do have this new slow motion camera. but we do have this new camera. Because he's using the sanctuary.
Starting point is 01:07:44 So the budget is actually budgeted. Like that bee was on screen so long, I thought he was going to have a confessional. Like I thought he was like. Bryce, Bryce, give me a blood confessional. The bee lasted longer on Survivor than I did. It did better in the challenge than I did. Normally I have issues with the chickens, but now it's the damn B.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Bryce, if you were the B, what would your confessional be? I'm right here. I want to be. Hey Joe. I'm right here. I want to be a joke. Right here. But let's go. Before we wrap this up, Hunter, I actually have a very important question for you. Is that close this podcast out for all the listeners that are listening and watching? Is French Camp happening this summer?
Starting point is 01:08:51 Okay, this isn't official yet. Okay, so French Camp happening. French Camp is a town. Let's just clarify that. It won't be here, I hope. I hope it's here, otherwise something went wrong. I do a survivor event it with my students. But listen, I give $1,000 to come and compete. They they didn't take me up on it this year. They weren't interested. So it's
Starting point is 01:09:13 crazy. It's crazy, right? Like, if you all saw the scale of the stuff I do, you'd be like, why would they not want to? But I tried to do this thing where I invited other kids, kids from other schools, my kids got scared. They were like, I, we don't want to do this. And so I like, I don't it it was weird. I was like, what? Y'all don't want to like defend your turf? They were like, nah, we're out. See you later. And I was going to give him a thousand dollars. That was for like a two day event. So what I'm doing instead is I'm actually trying to make it happen. Not official is inviting adults to come do
Starting point is 01:09:44 basically starts in the evening one night, goes straight through the night, no sleeping, to the end of the next day. And I'm probably gonna offer like a $2,000 reward for that. It's gonna be like squid games meet survivor event going on in the summer. And so y'all, I may get some of y'all wanna come as well. The next question was gonna ask,
Starting point is 01:10:01 is there room for three baby boys to attend French count this summer? Yes. Yes. Okay. Have you all seen Squid games? Yeah. Or get the idea, the premise of Beast games or any of those
Starting point is 01:10:15 things. It's going to be kind of a mix of that. Everyone have a Jersey with a number on it. If it all gets approved, I get it approved first. But yeah, I've already been talking to some different people that were on Survivor on different shows that I would love to have them come and hang out and be a part of it because it would just be fun.
Starting point is 01:10:31 And try to make a little bit more because bridge camps out of the way, like it's a little bit, I got to drive two hours to get to an airport, but we'll get you. Wow. That's usually the thing that kills the vibe. It's like we'll zoom in. Can we do it? Zoom. Okay.
Starting point is 01:10:54 Well, keep you flying to Memphis and I'll let Q drive you down. Actually, that would be great. So I could drive. Cute. I didn't think I drive. I drive. I know. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:07 But I'll try to get all that official and let you know what it's looking like. I think it'd be a good time. OK, last question before we go. Was it the football team? Oh, no. Yeah, the football team. I've been taking L's, let the Rises survive. Not I can't expose my kids. We love it. We love them. Yeah. Go French. Go FCs.
Starting point is 01:11:32 Panthers. We're the Panthers. Let's just say they're one total this year. Yeah. We're looking to double up a hundred percent. They're going to the playoffs. We're going to the playoffs. We made the playoffs. We made the playoffs. Let's go. Hey, this is the play. We made the playoffs. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:11:46 Well, this is our year. This is our year. We rested so much last season. We're ready to go. They're the top for one of the top four teams in their top four. Top four in our district already. But here you can't beat that. It's amazing having one of the Panthers coach here, having Jack Atkins.
Starting point is 01:12:07 We even had Wendell asking questions this episode. I mean, it can't get much better than that. We will, Bryce and Wynn will be in DC next week. Tickets are available. You can go to bryceandwinn.com and we will be back next week. This has been your Survivor News covering Survivor Season 48, Episode 10. We're out.
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