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Episode Date: December 13, 2024

The baby boys are back! Join @briceizyah, @wendellholland, and @jackatkins21 with Survivor 44 and 45’s @bruce.perreault as they break down Survivor 47, Episode 13, “The Penultimate Push.” In this thrilling two-hour episode, the final six battle for survival as two torches are snuffed, leaving just four castaways heading into the finale. Genevieve’s bold maneuvers clash with the women’s alliance of Teeny, Sue, and Rachel, while unexpected twists shake up the game. With shocking eliminations, high-stakes challenges, and chaotic Tribal Councils, this episode sets the stage for an epic conclusion. Don’t miss this fiery recap!

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i am excited to get into it this week we've got our amazing the talented we just got a date for extreme home makeover on abc dropping december 2nd and one of the co-hosts when easy holland january i said january 2nd, Wendizy was popping. How's it going, Perp? Good to be back. And we've also, it's been, it's a lot going on this week. Not only with finale part one, but we have our baby boy, Jack Atkins. You might know him from Netflix season two, but you might actually know him pretty soon.

Agent Chet Bond. he's currently filming a pilot right now baby boy jack is in the building what's popping what's good what's good excited to be here you guys know i wasn't i wasn't sure if i was gonna get out of set in time but got out of there zoomed home just in time to hop on with the baby boys and a special guest. Wendizy, I feel like we got a special guest this week, right? Oh, yes we do. How you doing?

I think Wendizy, you should probably introduce the special guest, but we might need some do the special guest, but we might need some protection because we got to protect

this guest at all costs because we don't want nothing. Can you do the honor? Ladies and gentlemen hailing from it's Rhode Island it's hailing from

Rhode Island two time Survivor player holds the record for help me out Bruce the shortest time ever on Survivor however arguably the most impactful Help me out, Bruce. The shortest time ever on Survivor. However, arguably the most impactful,

the one and only, Bruce is in the building! What up, peeps? How we doing? I'm so excited to get today started. Really excited to get today started. It's been a long time coming. It's been a really... today, so it's been a long time coming.

It's been a really... Jack! Listen, Jack got the protection because, listen, we got to be careful. Before we get into a lot of things, Bruce is here with us. Bruce was at our Boston party. I walked

up to Bruce and I said, Bruce, when are you coming on Survivor News? Now, before we started recording, Bruce was yelling at Wendell and Jack, talking about, I'm not the guy to say I want to be on the podcast, but I went right up to Bryce and said, what's up? So what's the story here, Bruce? Because I'm confused. I was drinking. I have no idea. I know that in my mind, somewhere in my mind, I'm like, yo, Hey, let me, let me own. Let me all man. It's been a while. Um, but I had to follow Jake. Like Jake was just the last one on. And now, now I feel like I'm at a disadvantage because Jake is,

he's an amazing podcaster. He just has so much knowledge and I'm just here to talk junk. So that's what's up. We are here for it. We saw Bruce and Jake. What you got, Wendyzy? I just had to, since you're bringing up the Boston stop, I would be remiss if I didn't mention one thing. I wanted to shout out the orgs that were in the building

or the schools that came and represented. Rep your stat. You know, you know, Boston University, Tufts, and Northeastern came in the building, and I forgot to shout them out. So, last time we came, they brought these buffs. And I was like,

I mean, like, let's like, look at this. Tufts, look at this. I was like, it's kind of lackluster, actually. So they came back they were like you know what we heard what you said oh there was like a battle of the

that one was Boston University the second one alright well this is Northeastern okay now look at this Tufts one. Oh, nice. I just need to shout out like Bruce, these, these schools in new England, they're coming correct. And when we come back to Boston, Bryce,

we got to find a way to do some kind of student discount and let all ages in the building, okay? Absolutely. Jack, I got a question for you. Lay it on me. Did Bruce see a buff on season 44? Yeah. Yeah, Bruce had a buff.

That's for life. Okay, okay. Don't mess with me. Don't mess with me. Don't mess with me, bro. The buff had some padding on it. Jack! It was on my wrist. It had no padding at all.

Bruce, don't let him do that to you. But we definitely were in Boston two weeks ago last week or yesterday Wednesday we were in DC and when I say the District of Columbia shut it down when I say shut it down

it shut it down it was a packed house it was an amazing episode the energy was real it was just from start to finish the the bwp tour 47 is has turned into something i don't even know what the word is but it is amazing and with only one stop left wait bryce did you get any gifts last night i did did get a gift last night. Gio from season

41. 43. 43. Our brother Gio from season 43. He drew Wendell and I these paintings, as you can see. And when I say they are like absolutely

epic, amazing. This man is gigantic. Gio can not only drink a rum and coke, he can paint. Okay? But like these are truly amazing.

I've seen people paint me before, but it's the realisticness of just everything so shout out to Gio and just amazing like speechless however

it makes me a little sad Wendell because we only got one stop left and so next Wednesday we are heading to New York City by way of Brooklyn. We're going to be at Berry Park, December 18th. Unfortunately, Wendeezy, is it sold out? I mean, all general admission tickets are sold out.

We only have like VIP, a few VIP tickets left. And that's it. So if you if you want to come check us and can't get a VIP, we are having the welcome party on Tuesday night. It's a welcome karaoke party in Manhattan at the Ainsworth. Tickets are on sale for that right now. We will also have Survivor

Games and Challenges at the party. So the same group that was with us, Boston Underground Games. Yes. They're going to be... They did an amazing job. Looking at all of those, I'm like, wow. It looked like production just literally said, hey,

Bryson, I'm going to give you some stuff because they just did a great job. They did such a good job, Bruce. I believe you attempted? Tried? Won? Again. You got all these excuses, Bruce.

I don't talk to you like this, Bruce. Okay. I like to talk to people face-to-face, don't I, Jackery? Oh, oh. We forgot about that. That's weird, because didn't you post a twitter video that one time listen if you like this dynamic now i believe uh we can break the news that bruce will be in brooklyn next wednesday uh so the ish talking continues.

Yes. If you see us in Brooklyn, say hi. Just say hi. Or smile and wave. That's all you need to do. Wendell and Jack, I got a question for y'all. So if y'all are in Boston, you live in Rhode Island,

you schedule a train for 12 a.m. You are outside of the venue at 1145. The Uber's three minutes away. You're about 10 minutes

from the train station. Would you still try to make your train, or would you say F it? I'd try to make your train or would you say F it? I try to make it according to that math. Okay. Jack. Probably try to make it too.

Okay. So I go outside. I see Bruce and his beautiful, amazing and loving wife. I'm like, are y'all having a disagreement? Bruce's wife's like, Bruce says we shouldn't even get the Uber. We should just stay. I'm like, Bruce y'all having a disagreement? Bruce's wife's like, Bruce says, we shouldn't even get the Uber. We should just stay. I'm like, Bruce, get in that Uber. Hey, you just wanted an excuse to hang out. I mean, nothing wrong with that.

And like he said, he was drinking. He was drinking. Now, mind you, that might not have been the best advice because 20 minutes later, I text Bruce and I i say bruce did you make the train bruce says we're eating pizza we're waiting for the next one no it was burgers we're having burgers uh we were so lucky we got into the train station and we had missed it um

and the next one that was coming up was in like another 45 minutes actually another 50 minutes so we're like just standing there looking around i just happened to look like over the top of her head. And I looked, it was a burger spot that was open and there was nobody in there yet. So we went in, ordered the burger, sat down and like 40 people showed up and we were just like, manja. We're eating and watching people, people that like, I thought I had a lot to drink. Wow. They were gone. They were gone. But it was, yes, the plan worked a certain way.

I didn't want to leave. It is what it is. But she had to work in the morning. You know what I mean? I had to work too, but I work from home, so it was easier for me to be able to do my thing. But she had to get up and work in the morning. So we didn't get home that night until, I want to say it was probably like around 140 um and then you get to bed till like two o'clock and boom 5 30 rolled around the alarm clock went off and she's up i'm i'm sleeping

i'm all messed up just sleeping sleeping with your teeth above all my teeth above well we got an episode to get into and I'll go on record by saying season 47 is the best of the new era period like that's it that's all I got to say

I'm sorry the best of the new era this episode this week these two hours the way I was up down left right doing a cha-cha slide like this season hands down hands down for me what's up you know you know we have someone who played multiple new era seasons on with us right now. I said what I said. All right. So the season isn't over yet.

There's only really one way that I would see it as being the best season. If it ends the way that I would like to see it end. But the season's not over yet. You could get a dud and then be like, only people remember what's right here, right now. So they're not going to remember three episodes ago when it was slamming. They're not going to remember last week's episode when it was slamming. They're going to be like, yo, how did that person win? Ah! And they just lose their mind. Then it was the worst season ever.

Okay, Bruce. With who is remaining in the game, what would it take for it to be a top-tier new era season? For example, say Rachel is voted off first or

goes on fire first. We don't even want to speak that, though, but continue. Say Sue knocks out Rachel in fire in the first hour next week.

Now we have a final three. Sue, Teenie, Sam. And we get, you know, the battle and whatever. I'm trying to ask you, what will have to change for this to not be a top-tier season? Given that scenario, and

now, I love everyone that's on the season. I'm just speaking with us to the edit that's showing up and how my feelings. Why are you going to let him set you up like that? That's all right. Listen, I got thick skin. My skin is thick. Bring it if you have something to say.

But I'm going to say this. If it ends up with that scenario, Sam, Teenie, and Sue, two out of those three I'm seeing are zero-vote finalists. It just is what it is. In my mind, I see it as a zero-vote finalist. I'm sorry. It just can't be that way. The final three, in my mind, the final three are Sam, Sue, and Rachel. Okay?

Sue's a zero-vote finalist. And then Rachel wins. Oh. That's just... Sam gets votes. Sam gets votes. But this is just me seeing it from the edit that I'm seeing. Not the people.

I love the people. But this is the edit that I'm seeing. And, you know, from gameplay and things that have happened, have happened, Rachel is about to run away with this thing. And it's not well known that when I remember sitting at my tribal, the one that I made, by the way, I remember sitting at my tribal and being like, all right. I actually had to say something to Jake and to Austin to, to Austin because D was running circles around them. Like, yo, you,

y'all need to speak up. You just hand her, hand her a million dollars. Like you're not saying anything. You're agreeing with what she's saying. And when you want to push back, she says something pushes back. And then you guys just fold up into a lawn chair.

Like, listen, do your thing. And then they started bickering back and forth. And then it became a fun travel for me anyway, because I like a little bit of controversy. From what I'm seeing here, that's my three that I got.

I think Teeny loses in fire. Is that the best possible outcome entertainment-wise too? For me, yes because Sue is going to hang out. She's going to hang out. She's going to chill.

I better be cool on our girl Sue. No, no. Love Sue. Love Sue. Yeah. Because Tsunami made moves this week. Okay. She pulled it right out. Okay. Okay. How's she pulling out, Wendell? How's she pulling out?

What was the move this week? I want to know. We can talk about it now. I'll talk about it later. I want to know. Listen. I'm with you, Bruce. Okay. She said, yeah, Jeff. Everyone in the jury was like, oh! She's like, yeah, Jeff.

Y'all thought I couldn't do this. It's the red paint. Wow. And that really shook up the game as we saw it. That did. It changed the landscape. Let me show you something so who did this how long did you have that oh my god that was great if she doesn't make the jury she's gonna look back and be like oh sam was so nice to me because he was talking to me about my my idol like it's it's okay that she brought that bad boy out, but from what they showed in the edit, I'm going off the edit.

From what they showed off the edit, what did she really do? Rachel has been showing everything that Rachel's been doing. She got saved by Saul. So she was able to walk away from a tribal and then had everybody else have to cannibalize each other. She found a hidden immunity idol. She used

her shot in the dark. And how did she use it? She used it to gauge people. Because she had a hidden immunity idol. If she would have seen faces being like... Because we do it. She would have played that idol. Wait. What are the faces, Bruce? Your camera

was a little slow. I'm spontaneous. I'm spontaneous. You're stupid. camera was a little slow. I'm spontaneous. Stupid. So, about that Sue move, right? I'm not, first of all, with people we've seen, Quintavious, we've seen a lot of people go home with idols in their pocket, right?

So I'm not mad at Sue. It was her last chance to play it, though, Bryce. Okay, Jack, hear me out, though. Right, I'm with you, right? So I'm not mad at Sue. It was her last chance to play it though, Bryce. Right. Okay. Jack, hear me out though. Right. I'm with you.

Right. So I, I, I do admit. Okay. It wasn't, I almost wish, even though I know she probably would have never done it. I almost wish she would have saved Genevieve. Right. Like, because for a viewer that I'm not saying game move wise for a viewer that would have been like oh

that would have been a big move because I really love in this episode the Rachel Genevieve like them battling them being frenemies like ha ha ha ha Jack that's a nice shirt it's ugly though

oh Bruce you smiling He's like, Jack, that's a nice shirt. It's ugly, though. Oh, Bruce, you smiling. But your breath stink. Wendell, you played Winners at War, but you was the first merch boot. Like, I like their friendly, like, that friendly fire to me. I was like, I like this. And it's like, gang like gang recognizes gang like they weren't holding any punches back this week that's like bish i see you bish i see you too like

i enjoy that that idol hunt was fun to watch because like there are these like respectable respectful strong smart gamers right and it's like I'm not going to do something mean to you I'm not going to bully you or anything but you see what time it is but because of the mutual

respect like they can walk with each other they can share a little hug they know what it is i loved watching that yeah we haven't seen much of that yeah it's like when rome was walking around with saul was just trying to live come on man i've already talked about it with abraham that dude's ass would have been beat i'm sorry i love you rome i hope you're listening i hope you're watching you should be um but i'm're listening. I hope you're watching. You should be. But I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I've already mentioned it before. But like you were saying, Wendell, there was there's a level of respect that's in Bryce, like, you know, game recognized game.

Like, I completely am on board with that because that's the way it's supposed to be. So now it's like two gladiators going at it. And who's going to win? Who's going to do what needs to be done to stick around in the game? And, you know, Maximus, Verdius, whatever, she showed up. And Rachel, and that's it. There you are. Yeah. And so it kind of like takes a little bit of the flame out for me

because it's like I did like the Goliaths going at it and seeing that. And I would have loved to kind of almost see them too at the end, right? Could you imagine Rachel and Genevieve and their ploy? That, for me, is like, whoa. What would happen there? And they're both so articulate.

In that battle, I almost feel like Genevieve, we would have to give it to Genevieve, but I don't know because Rachel is so smart Rachel is so like spunky she can speak to it but so Genevieve going home this episode really kind of I was like oh I miss it and we also saw uh Sam, Teenie and Sue talking about it at one point where they're like are they essentially just saying we're just the sheep here? Like, they're just celebrating? Like, what's going on here?

That was, I was like, oh, what's going on? What is going on? Yeah. What's up, Spotify? This is Javi. I remember this one time we were on tour. We didn't have any guitar picks and we didn't have time to go to the store.

So we placed an order on Prime and it got there the next day ready for the show. Whatever you're into it's on Prime. I do have something I want to ask y'all about because I want to talk about

Teenie for a second. I know we're all over the place but you know welcome to Survivor News and we got Bruce on with us. I would rather have another way. So

this episode with Teenie, right? I think in previous episodes, I've been like, Teenie, what you doing? Where you at? Because in the beginning,

Teenie has such a high art. They were, I felt like running the game, but this episode, I really had some empathy for Teenie because it was just like, can I get a break? And when we go through the arc of like how Teenie was collateral damage, a lot of these episodes or this whole season of like people kind of lying to her, but not necessarily wanting to lie to her, but making moves. And it's like this. I just feel like this whole season Teenie's been like, what is going on?

And it's like seeing that art play back. I'm just like, I can only imagine what that feels like, where it's like you have a game plan, you're trusting people, but you're constantly being lied to because they know the position of someone else's game. Right. Yeah. Yeah. They said something. They said, Sam said uh sam said i believe he said if you ever want

any information to get out just tell teeny but then teeny then turned around and said well yeah that's what all of my high school all my my friends say too so right there it gives me the idea of and and i guess at some point it was said that it happened from the first tribe that she was on. Like, there's something to be said about you can't talk to someone because they're going to run around and say something. I did that to Jake. Jake was spewing information to everybody. So I'm like, I need him to go and tell Austin and Drew that Kelly left with my idol. And I know it was fake.

It was a lie. I lied to Jake. Lied twice. One of them was to Jake. The other one was to Katara about that plan. And that bit me in the ass, but whatever. But it's like that's probably what's happening here. That's the reason why she was left out of everything. There's many opposites on the side of every single vote.

Only person voting for one person. Like, it's kind of, you can call it collateral damage that she made on her own. Yeah. But when you're constantly finding out new-ish that's late,

of course you have to then go confirm it with Pete. You know what I mean? I just feel like they always were a step behind. And then when this groundbreaking new information comes out, it's like, well, I need to confirm it with somebody to know that it's true. But yeah, I just, I feel like this week I got a new perspective of Teenie and it's just like, well, damn, like you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. And it just is like the rough shake of just being out there.

I find it interesting after the Andy play of last week, I find this fallout interesting. Like now people can't trust anything. So when Genevieve is like, yo, Sam is really diming me out. Yo, it's a fact. Like, they don't know what to believe anymore because Andy and this Italian, whatever, Italy, whatever, he had them so messed up. Yeah.

He's just been in the blender, like, just doesn't know what to believe and doesn't know what not to believe. Even, like, I thought it was such a funny moment when Genevieve was talking about finding the note under the pizza and you saw Tini just be like, that was pizza. Who are you saying you should have brought me? Yeah. I feel bad for Teenie

but no I think Bruce kind of hit it right on the head like it seems like Teenie was just someone that people kind of really trust with info and when that happens then sometimes they have no choice but to lie to you because if they tell you the truth it's going to get out and yeah Teenie

I love him but really all over the place Cannot, for the life of them Be in the right side of a vote I think the only votes post-merge Teenie has been In the right side of Were the two unanimous ones The Gabe one and the Kyle one

Even last night, Teenie was pushing to vote for Genevieve Teenie votes for Sam It's like, what What are we doing here? Say what you want. I'm sorry. Say what you want about Teenie, though. But when it's wine, they're going to drink

it. And listen, I'm here for it. I'm with Teenie staying through and through, but it's just been tough to watch them just stumbling through the gate. She was drinking out of everything. And that goblet that she had, Snoop Dogg was standing up like this with a J in his mouth just clapping.

Go ahead, girl, because that thing was a chalice. That thing was massive. And she was just... Did anybody recognize when she came back and she literally goes, they're like, hey guys, welcome back. And she's like, hey.

It was gone. she was so drunk that surprised me i mean especially in the new era where it's like the next day you got a challenge i'm like i don't know if i'd be drinking like that and if i did it once i think i learned my lesson because teenies been been drunk before. Sifu got drunk when we had our merch piece. Sifu was pounding beers like they were glasses of water. And he came back dizzy. I'm proud of that. We see after the Operation Italy fallout, then we see Teeny get brought back in. And they kind of lie to teeny again teeny

believes it uh but then we see rachel and what i loved about this is because sometimes we don't get to see this aspect of it on survivor and even rachel brought it up she's like when you're watching on tv you see the the blue light or whatever the black light and so it looks like you can see but you can't and we see Rachel creeping up and listening and it looks like she is an arm reach away it begs the question to me

did Tony need to do all of that right like we see Rachel just walk up and lay down did Tony need to do all of that? Some of Tony's recall was in the daytime, though, right?

But, I mean, Wendell, you would know better than I would. Tony's a shaman, man. Tony makes good TV. Tony makes good TV. Yeah, but that's also so crazy, though, like,

Rachel sitting there hearing all of them say all of that and that really kind of gives Rachel the fire to be like got it you're all dead to me I can't trust none of you all I got is Tsunami and if you want a loyal person in this game where we're saying we can't trust anybody everybody's a. I feel like the only person you really can trust is Sue. And so I'm not mad at that alliance of Sue and Rachel. I also thought it was interesting when Rachel was like Sue got up the next

morning and was like, I got I don't care what it is. I gotta find an idol. Dig right there. Dig with me. She's like, yo I'm not digging right there. with me she like yo I'm not digging right there I got it

if y'all never see but I was like Sue really was like oh you're here Rachel go over there look yeah and Rachel is like listen I gotta I don't you don't Rachel is like, listen, I got an idol.

You don't got to do this no more. Like, I got you. What's really funny about that is that, so Rachel had that moment of empathy for Sue because she saw her down there digging, which Sue didn't need to dig down there. She already had an idol. She didn't know that Rachel had the other one,

but she's down there doing it. Now said it in the you know in one of her confessionals that you need someone you need someone to be with you can't just kind of try to jump into other people's numbers at this point in time because you don't know what the numbers are and according to what she knows now there are three people currently against her so with her doing that sue and sue needs from my perspective um sue needs someone to be able to hold on to like susan she's older like all game you know what i'm saying she needs someone to hold on to so her the people that she was hanging on to they're all gone so now as soon as she does that and then rachel says something to sue like no no you're good well she's 110 percent in she's loyal but she also didn't

tell rachel about her community at all so now what's that going to turn into now what's rachel going to do is rachel going to sit there and be like this month of good job girl but now i can't trust you because you wouldn't want to tell like what if I was in trouble? You didn't like it. I needed help and I wanted to be able to X, Y and Z and put a plan together. It never would have worked if you had an idol. But this is what I will say, because I feel like a lot of people are saying, oh, Sue's not doing anything. She doesn't like her withholding that information in my mind is like, okay, Sue's got a plan. Like, you know, like she is looking out for herself and what you have to do with survivors. So I wasn't actually mad at that in an era where everyone kind of tells all the secrets.

I was like, okay, Tsunami, hold on to that. But I also think like, well, maybe if you told Rachel, we could have devised a plan or something, but I wasn't mad at Tsunami for that. I feel like I'm sad that my man Andy went home, right? And I feel like I've been saying all season, Andy. First of all, I wanted Andy to win. So if Andy is not going to win, I felt like Andy would do it to himself. And I feel like I kind of was right in the sense when he is. Rachel was kind of like saying to him, hey, listen, I know you think it was and I'm thinking we should get together.

And Andy's like, I'm tired of lying to you. I'll get back to you. And in Andy's omission of like, actually, it's going to be you, Rachel. And the reasons that he's giving her, because Rachel's like, listen,

they not seeing you as what you see yourself as you, you not like Rachel, like you're not that bull. And then Andy kind of is like, well, you're right. But this, this,

and this, and this, and this, and this, and then this is, this is this and this and this and this. And then this is this is what makes me respect Rachel so much, because we the viewers, we know what Andy been doing. And like Andy starts, you know, laying out his timeline, his receipts, his description. And Rachel is like, wait a damn minute now. Rachel is like, wait a damn minute now. And that's just crazy because it's like, had Andy not done that,

I feel like Andy could still be in the game. He reminded me of like one of these evil villains that is telling the plan before he kills this person or whatever. He's like giving this speech to the jury before she's on the jury. It's like, you just laid out everything for her. Bruh. Before the jury was managed.

He's like, trying to get a jury vote, but literally, you're the vote. It's like, yeah. I'm like, bruh, you're doing the most. Shut up. Come on. You're talking to someone else. All Rachel's got to do now

because Andy laid all that out. You know it was a lengthy conversation because everybody that gets on this show, they just talk way too much. This is what it is. Rachel, all she's got to do now is say, okay, that sounds very interesting. You did a good job. That's a lot of stuff you had to hand

in. Where did she have her hand in that as well? So if she had any part of any of that, she can then turn around and say, this is what I did. Well, let's talk about it. Right.

But you told me your whole speech. Man, you would have done such a good job against me at the end i had to take you out y'all not even giving rachel the credit of how masterful she is in this do we remember this conversation where her sam and andy are on the beach and essentially she is getting dressed for her funeral and she is playing it up like, hey, it is what it is. Like y'all like my brothers, like it sucks. And I really feel like from her confessionals, that was the emotional draw that she was putting on them. And even in this conversation, when she makes the pitch that it's like, listen, I'm not as strong as I think I am. It's Genevieve. And she pitches that to Andy.

Andy says, I'm tired of lying to you, so I can't give you an answer right now, right? It's like the way Rachel played them because it's like she was possum. Yeah. And they believed

it. And Andy believed it so much while Andy was talking in Andy's mind. Rachel was like this. And Andy believed it so much while Andy was talking. In Andy's mind, Rachel was like this. And he's talking to her like she's laid down. And he's like, well, and like I said, Andy would do it to himself because he's so forward thinking, right? He's like, okay,

she's going, let me get this vote. And now, like, because he's doing the numbers, like, you know, 116 for 13 to 7. And so he's like, this is 6. So let me get this vote and now like because he's doing the numbers like you know 116 for 13 to 7 and so he's like this is six so let me and like in that moment the possum said so i just i think that rachel's move right here like it's like the last time i was in a car with Bruce, I said, what's that smell? Silent, but deadly. And I said, yes, we was in the car in New York

and your niece was driving and Wendell was in the trunk. Okay, now that sounds crazy. We was like, what's that smell? Somebody moved in the car? You. Me? Yes.

I would take full responsibility for any kind of noise that my body makes. But I'll tell you this right now. I do not recall that. I recall drinking a drink. You was drinking. But Rachel's move, silent but deadly there, right? Because if she had not played that

up like that there's no way that Andy is coming to her like that she heard her jury management was just letting them jury manage her and think she's a good sport and so they think oh well she's gonna go to the jury be a good sport maybe throw me a vote and then they go to the jury like well if Rachel is gonna do it for me maybe I'll do it for her so um yeah really impressive from rachel not great for me not a not like the worst thing ever but definitely just especially when no idols have been played after the merge it's like she could have idol like let's not count our chickens before they hatch a note a note about andy i was scared with it because we've known andy for a while i was scared with andy coming into this season after austin a couple seasons ago because when i look at austin and his game i'm like but what else you can't get much

better than that unless it unless you went like what I'm saying is, like, he got so far. Like, one swing vote, they would have tied, right? So, like, when I see an Andy, I'm like, man, like, you're like mini Austin. Austin did so well, right? But then I'm watching this Andy. Andy left his mark on this game. He did some funny things, silly things. He was a character like he has distinguished himself in my book. I am. I'm happy to watch Andy. He made it a great show.

Like, remember, we were watching Roman, his antics and stuff like at this point. I'm just thinking Andy left his mark on this game. I'm happy for him playing so hard and going out swinging. That's what I did want to say about Andy. For him to do what

he did, for him to make me get up off of my couch, I believe it was episode two. Him saying that he wanted to like quit i'm done like a long time reason i i was pissed i'm like you know what i'm gonna write this dude off because he's not going to turn into anything because he's just like that a little bit of that you know a little bit of something that that is hard to do now you want to be done but then he has his come to jesus moment you know an episode later

and then he's not you know starts figuring out where he is and using what he has is god-given talent of a brain of his because he's extremely smart like watching him put these things together and his moves definitely would rival rachel's moves. But Rachel was being safe. He was making moves. He was altering the thought process of other people. I truly appreciate that. The one thing that I didn't like and shout out to the editing department,

they tried to keep him in a silly spot. They tried to keep him there. He's soaring the thing, whatever. There was another instance that he was doing. They tried to keep him there. He's soaring the thing, whatever. And there was another instance that he was doing. It just made him with the dodo bird at it a little bit. That bothered me

once I got to know that he is actually a player. But I'm just like, he's got to get past that. And he did. He got past it by implementing whatever he could, but he was never taken serious by the people that he was with in the tribes. But I think that two things can be true, though, right? Like, I think that you could be a little

I mean, look at Jack, right? Like, you could be like, hey, and you could be extremely smart, right? Like, Damn. That's not a bad comparison, but I just called him Shred. But,

I think two things can be true. And I think that like Andy has changed the mold similarly to like an Emily Flippin', right? I feel like we hadn't saw something like an Emily Flippin' since like a cast. And I guarantee you season 49, we will see a Andy-esque. I will say, I guess,

co-signing with that, it's more holistic. You're seeing a more full picture. People mess up, and they have good moments, they have bad moments. I kind of like that about the show. Show a full picture of this person. And also, I think, showing some of the silly moments kind of

let us as viewers understand how he was viewed by the boots on the ground so like if you're only showing these like andy being this genius and confessionals you're not understanding that a lot of these people don't aren't taking him that seriously based on this blunder from the beginning so i kind of like... Andy's story was super complex. I thought it was great. Like you said, I think it's a benefit of the 90 minutes. The ups and downs that he experienced and that we got to witness,

I think really just embodied his game and made him such an interesting character to watch. Sometimes you'll see him on the highest of highs, and then sometimes you'll see him just literally like on the ground broken down and it's like all over the place but it's really interesting to view. And his moves continue to change the course of the game.

Yeah, it does. His flip-flopping. His moves change his moves change the ending of his own game, right? It's like Andy is a mover and a shaker. And I hope, I'm sure that he knows it, but I always say there's, they will,

there will be a winner. But I also feel like there's a people's champ every season. And I think Andy might take that crown as the people's champ this season. I don't, how y'all feel about that? I think that might be Genevieve's crown, but I'm not going to disparage Andy. I enjoyed him, but I mean the out, and that's not even my sentiment either way, but just the outpouring online of like mother Genevieve, as they say,

that, you know, people. That is true. Before we talk about. I don't think that, I don't think jennifer gave a lot of people the woman fuzzy and she said it herself um by way of the her gameplay she got a little softer as it went on because you know if you make it deep in this game um you're gonna you'll figure out real quick that you need to stop putting some emotion because the game will pull emotion out of you. It just is what it is. Whether you're left out of votes, whether you're, you know,

you're thinking about home when you're sitting there in the middle of the night, looking up at the stars, you know, thinking about what your family's doing. So there's no getting around that. But I think that Andy could very well because he is a character. And people that I've spoken to about this, I was at this Christmas party tonight and there were people talking about Andy. Cause they watched the show.

They were talking about Andy and how like, you know, it's going to be tough to not see him on the, on the television because he did do a bunch of, whether it be silly things, straightforward things, change the game. Like people are recognizing that in Genevieve,

you know, there was from the people that I talked to, there was no real comment in regards in genevieve you know there was from the people i talked to there was no real comment in regards to genevieve leaving um which that is what it is but that's a small subset of people now maybe go ahead jack i was gonna say maybe maybe the general public andy's game's gonna stick with them longer. But maybe looking on the niche survivor communities that are the big fans, I feel like maybe Genevieve is more who they stand, as they say. Yeah. But it's also interesting because I think maybe Andy's story is more relatable to some people,

the ups and the downs. But when you think about Genevieve, ain't really been no down for sis, right? Like Genevieve been riding on top the whole time. And that is what is so impressive about her game is that like from the get go, Genevieve said, I got to make moves. I got to lie. And so I think that we've been accustomed to that high level gameplay of hers and to her credit she's kept it up the entire game

is she almost like the Jesse of this season like a strong player that you know like got taken out of there if I remember correctly he didn't show a lot of emotion when he talked about his kids yeah

but as far as towards the show a lot of emotion when he was talking about his kids, yeah. But as far as towards the other players, like when he... Yeah. He was a whole-blooded assassin. Yeah. Cody was... Yeah, Cody. He was like looking dead in the face like...

Genevieve had a couple more ups and downs, I think. You know, Jesse was really crushing the whole way. I mean, I maintain Genevieve had a couple more ups and downs I think you know Jesse was really Crushing the whole way I mean I maintain Genevieve voting out Saul at the final Ten or whatever it was Still a bad move I wonder What James Jones thinks about that now but I mean just hey I don't know if you watched the episode but

No No no I mean Genevieve Was a great player but definitely you know I don't know if you watched the episode, but... No, um... I mean, Genevieve was a great player, but definitely, you know, the past few weeks, she's been struggling to get a footing in the game. And that's definitely... And she's still a threat just because of her charisma and intelligence and, you know, pretty good resume,

but not quite... Not to, like, you know, that Jesse type was dominating throughout. And then at Final Four four they're like we gotta get this guy but I feel like I'm gonna have to push back on that a little bit only in the sense of

Genevieve only couldn't get her footing because she was so dominating the numbers dwindled down and it's like alright where do I kind of go from here so I I agree with what you're saying, but I just feel like she still was dominating. If you're dominating

and you're dominating so hard and you make a big move at the final 10 and then now at 9, everyone's like, that's target number one. Is you really dominating, right? Was she not a part of Operation Italy? I mean, a lot of people were part of Operation Italy. I mean, a lot of people were part of Operation Italy.

I'm just saying, but you can add that to her other tribals after, too, where she was not in the majority. She was a target, right? So I'm saying that's different than like an Omar or a Jessie. But did she make the tribals, though? Just because you're there doesn't mean you... No, but I'm saying, but she made it to

the next day after those tribals, though. I'm not saying she's a bad player, but I'm just saying the difference day after those tribals, though. So I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm not saying she's a bad player, but I'm just saying the difference between her and, like, a Jesse or Omar... I'm not saying she's a bad player either. I'm just trying to say she's a good player. Yeah, she is a good player, but I'm saying the difference in her story is that you know, a Jesse or Omar,

until they were voted out, were always in the know, and when they were voted out, it's because oh, we're at the Final Four, the Final Five, Final Six, whatever, and, like, you got to go to go not here genevieve was a great player but she made mistakes that lost her position in the game she was the minority a few times and then the reason she went is because target number one rachel won immunity whereas if rachel hadn't won immunity genevieve would still be in but would jesse and Omer still be in if they had a one immunity? Or like,

well, they didn't win immunity. That's why they went home. Well, I mean, and Genevieve didn't win immunity. That's why she went home. No, it's she went home because Rachel won immunity. I mean...

And had an idol. But Genevieve had an idol too. What are you trying to say? Are you saying that Genevieve's arc in the game was similar to like Jesse and Omer's? Because it just wasn't.

I don't think it was. They were different. But I also feel like I feel like you can compare them. I feel like you're like, yeah, it's Jesse. Genevieve ain't do nothing like I. Genevieve's a great player, but she had a lot more like downs than. Jack, that's the thing that like I feel like you're being hard on genevieve i think jenny would probably be the first person to agree that in the middle of the merch she was in a rough

spot in the game yeah she was a target for a few votes and she maneuvered and she so that's that's what i'm not saying she's played bad right but i just i think that you're not giving her the credit of surviving all of that. I think like, it feels like you're diminishing it a little bit. All I'm saying is that her arc was not one of, Oh, dominating the whole way through.

She wasn't in the majority every time she was on the bottom of a few times. That's inherently different than someone who was in the majority the whole time, like a Jesse and then got voted out or lost in fire because he had to, because everyone knew he was going to cook everybody else at the end. If Genevieve went to the end with Rachel,

she probably doesn't even win. There's an obvious difference between who's the biggest, who's winning the game more and who's not. Again, Genevieve's still a top-tier player, but it's like you can't compare apples to oranges because their story is different.

Jack, I'm going to back down on this one. I'm going to let you have this one because I'm going to say this is cyberbullying because I know you have a Jack army. The Jack army don't play about you. Cyberbullying. Yeah, it is. He cyberbullied me a little bit because Jack, no, because

let's call it a thing. Wendell, how many screenshots did we get in the group message? You got one last week. No, Jack, it ain't just been one. At least five to ten a week. Just so y'all know, Purple Pants, y'all have created a monster in Jack. Anytime that

Jack Shaq show Jack love, Jack will screenshot it. The only one I screenshot is that pale, strong emoji and be like, y'all gonna stop playing with me this week. Hit us with the eyes. Okay. Last week he was like,

it's better now. James Jones, what you not fit to do is come on here and play with Jack. I'll count the ways. He has an army behind him. You're the main one talking about threat levels and their management. So, yeah, Jen shot herself into the top of the threat level charts unnecessarily. So, shout out to QJacks9068.

I'm having my goddamn match. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Then they're about to go off. Now, answer me this, Wendell. Was Jack not sending the screenshots about the biscuit?

Yup. Okay. Okay, so... Yeah, Jack, see? I don't want no smoke with Jack and the Jack army and the biscuit.

So, maybe... Here's something we can maybe agree on since we can... You won that that debate good spar with you Jack right I forgot Jesse went on fire right okay I can get corrected let's can we talk about Sam for a minute right because we've said this big threat that's you know like it's the rain is coming the rain is coming the winter oh oh yeah well i don't know

where the rain at right however i respect sam so much and i think that he knew hey i gotta jump shit genevieve you got to go right and i I feel similarly to him like with Teenie where it's like you're getting a bad shape right you just got this rep on you because you look good you're handsome you're kind of tall you can act you know you're emotional you're likable oh you know that's a big one true I think that's a big one. We've been wondering why about Sam. Like, why is he a big threat? Like, I feel like he's a likable person.

Do we got a brother? Does Sam have a brother? I don't know. I also think they're playing it up because if Sam gets in the final three, whether he's with Rachel or not, they want, you know, if he's not with Rachel and I think he might win and they want to show maybe a little bit it might not be

the best win but oh he's charismatic versus you know his opposition having some fumbles and then if he's against Rachel then at least maybe there's a little bit more of like Sam could win or this is why he got second

are we getting built up for a Sam win? but no wait but listen it's about to be a Sam win that's kind of what I hey I like Sam

you guys probably aren't surprised we know we would have told you that preseason, Jack. I'm rooting for Sam, but also in general. So, you know, this goes back to the start of the episode when Bruce was talking about his ideal end of the season is, you know, a Rachel beats Sam beats Sue. For me, I think independent of my championing of Sam,

I think that the Rachel thing has become so obvious that if Rachel goes at four, then I'm going to be sat for final tribal council. Because sometimes the winner of the season doesn't always have to be the best for the season to be really good. Right. A lot of the best winners come from boring seasons. Just look at Ghost Island. Where is the Jack Shack? Jack Shack? Time stamp this. Jack Shack. But you can't be too mad because I say you're a great winner.

Hold on. I'm sorry. I got to do this. Just look at Redemption Island, I meant to say, with Boston Rob. Boring season. But now if Rachel goes, Rachel's clearly the best player left. But if she goes, you know, then it opens up the game. And it's like that final travel is going to have us guessing. You know, I think she goes, you know, then it opens up the game and it's like, that final travel

is going to have us guessing. I know, I think probably it would be Sam, right? But if Rachel goes, you know, everyone's going to be like, hold on a second. Like, what's about to happen? So for me, for entertainment, it's sort of like, yeah, the winner ultimately

wouldn't be as strong of a winner as Rachel, but I think it could add a little bit of a twist ending to the season. That could be a lot of fun. And I think Sam realizes that, right? Like this move of him going against Genevieve. Like there's something about like, hey, I got to do what I got to do. And I need to make things happen that I can appreciate about what's going on here. So I'm not mad.

Sorry, Jack, you had to take first seat after that. Okay. But I appreciate that. I feel like Sam's like, listen, I understand the odds. I've been surviving a lot here. I got to do what I have to do.

And I'm not mad at that because you never know what's going to happen to Survivor. And that might be a million dollar move for Sam. Yeah. do what I have to do. And I'm not mad at that because you never know what's going to happen to survivor. And that might be a million dollar move for Sam. Yeah. It was great. Sam was doing that too.

Yeah. He recognized it, which is a good thing. He recognized he had to let it go. Like, yeah, you gotta go buy, buy bird flight. But if it comes down to likability,

Sam runs into a little bit of a problem because if he makes it, let's just say it's Sam and Teenie and Sue. I think they like Sue more than they like Sam. Because Sue's the motherly figure. I'm talking about likability, not something that was happening. What's that? She got Gabe and Caroline. She doesn't have Kyle. She don't got and Caroline she doesn't have Kyle she don't got Kyle

she might have Genevieve no no Genevieve's gonna go with Sam I'm sorry Rachel I think Rachel's gonna go with Sam Genevieve's just gonna bounce by Sam no but they they had a

I was gonna say in the secret scene they had a coming they knew it was either one or the other you know i understand that and that's all fine and good and i remember when i got voted out i'm like all right guys y'all good i appreciate you and then then you you get in that tent and you sit there you're like mother and then you get to ponderosa and you're talking people out of there and then you go to your room and get yourself cleaned up and you're like, I can't believe this. And then you go to breakfast the next morning and now

everybody's talking about stuff. Oh, they said what? Oh, things change. Things change. Thank God for the docs over there because it was like, I need to chat with you real quick. And they're like, nope, nope, nope. And they're eating their cereal while they're talking to you. Like I needed my conversation because it was like i need to chat with you real quick and they're like nope nope and they're eating their cereal while they're talking to you like i needed i needed my conversation because it was for my experience and being out there and listening to what people were saying because

there was there were people that were saying if x is there f that person not voting for them because they have something that they remember from day four and then they have there are other people that are like i'm gonna ride and die with that person blah blah and then somebody else turns around and says but do you know that they said this and then you're like what so then minds start twisting and thinking a little bit and then whoever's left there now you're gonna take the the bed the the best of the evils that are there if they wronged you in any way shape or form like the gameplay is a beautiful thing you can win out and and and you know all the entire time immunities the gameplay is a beautiful thing you can win out and you know the entire time immunities boom eight in a row

get to the end I did this blah blah blah you're like so valid but it's a matter of like now again I think it happened but also you know you mentioned talking just going off the edit do we think Sue's gonna win probably not and also

if you're talking about like oh conversations at Ponderosa he said she said Sue's going to win? Probably not. And also, if you're talking about conversations at Ponderosa, he said, she said, Sue's been the one saying, I'm going to kill him. Sam doesn't, we don't see Sam talking a lot of, saying a lot of bad things behind the scenes. We don't

see it because it's an edited show. I promise. That's why I think Sam would be the one to win because they wouldn't want to show that. Right. I mean, it kind of plays upon itself, but yeah,

maybe. So y'all just made me come to the thought that like, yeah, maybe. And it's crazy to think that Rachel isn't the winner because of all the game that we've seen, but it's like, Hey, if she gets knocked out in fire, she ain't going isn't the winner because of all the games that we've seen. But it's like, hey, if she gets knocked out in fire,

she ain't going to be the winner. Right. But we've talked about all these people, and I feel like we keep saying, well, it's not Rachel. However, if it is Rachel, and although us as fans, we want excitement, we want drama, we want something drastic to happen.

If that does not happen hats the f off to rachel yeah because we we only feel that way because it's like sis you just dominated the last half of this game like a champ like we're reading a book right and so it's i just want to just make sure we like are clear on that right you know what I'm saying because it's like you played this game so well that it's to the point where we like we bored because you the champ

at this point so with us keep saying that I just also want to just give Rachel her flowers because she had a phenomenal life from start to finish definitely remember though at the beginning before the phenomenal. From start to finish. Definitely.

Remember, though, at the beginning, before the merge, she really wasn't doing anything. She was surviving. She was just getting to know the people that were there. Then she ended up being with Sam and Andy

at the end there before andy went but the other thing also is that she she had her pitfalls um at the very beginning of the merge so she had her pitfalls and then she just turns around and says okay how am i gonna get this this taken care of oh my god my my game is over i'm sunk and then sol turns around saves her and i gave her the extra thing you know that everybody always fight like they're always saying like what's that thing that keeps you going keeps you going keeps you going oh you know love a family this and the other fine fine fine it's like an everyday thing like you're always constantly doubting yourself at some point in time about something there's

something that's going through your mind and then when you're sitting there and you know you get that that lifeline then you get an idol and then you get the you know the block of vote and all those stuff like she had so much power going in and then she didn't squander it she you know like i said before the shot in the dark she played that and that kind of snowballed her her aggression towards the game and also her confidence in this game and also her confidence in this game and you have to have confidence you can't just be like like there's nothing worse than going into something saying oh i got this one thing and then all right i'm gonna be fine like i can think about myself i knew that i was going next if i played my idol i tried to hatch a plan

to be able to make sure that i can stick around one more week after my week i was supposed to be going you know and it bit me in the backside but the fact is is that that i was short-sighted with that she her vision was is is deeper but also still in the moment and that idol didn't burn a hole in her pocket like you said with that with that shot in the dark like yo it could have you could have pulled that idol out but she sat and really and she like she really she had a strategy never been comfortable she's never been we've never seen rachel comfortable in this game ever true and she also she had a lot of luck but and like but to that point survivors a game of luck and whenever she had a lucky opportunity i felt like she always

capitalized and made the right decision right um and agree at the same point people will be like oh she was lucky saw safety she was unlucky that she was the only one you know drawn onto that tribe of all two people so it's it's um yeah i feel like every every every inflection point crossroads she came to she just made great decisions and creative decisions time and time again. I just needed a win. Damn it. It was definitely a masterclass, whether she wins or not, really a masterclass on like new era gameplay for a lot of reasons, I think so. Absolutely.

And it's just crazy to think that there's only one episode left. Yeah. And I was in Boston, or I was in D.C. last night talking to someone, and I'm like, the way I feel, I feel like there should be like six more episodes left. Like, I'm hungry. And someone

actually said, well, you know, this has actually been one of the longer seasons in the new era. Normally they end at 13. We're getting a 14th episode. I said, well, geez louise. I have a question. Well, two things. A, it made

me realize how much I appreciate the shorter winter off season because we get 48 coming out middle of February. It's two months versus that summer off right yeah it's like february 21st 27th and february we got like two months versus that four months some but we'll

have that you know a cast reveal in a month and a half but also my question is we haven't seen a four-person you know finale finale like we're gonna have next week in a long time do we think anything different is going to happen is it just going to be that fire making challenge final three could it be a final two possibly I think I've heard Jeff say

like in you know when he's walking and talking I've heard him say about this season that like you know if you get to the final four you have a fighting shot with fire I think I've heard him say about this season that like, you know, if you get to the final four, you have a fighting shot with fire. I think I've heard him say that in some of his promos. So I don't think we're going to get anything. I know there's going to be fire, but is there any world where the final three does another challenge and,

and, and plays for the final two? I mean, I don't. It would be nice to have the final two just for the simple fact of, and I would love, I think I might have asked this before I got an answer, but I forgot. It would be nice for there not to be a final three anymore because I'm just sick of seeing the people that are zero vote finalists. There are some good game players and they're zero vote finalists. Yeah, but what if it's number one and number three at the final two now?

finalists. Yeah, but what if it's number one and number three at the final two now? What if it's a landslide now because number three slipped in with number one? Yeah. It's going to be more like, but I don't know. We need that Genie versus Sue matchup that we've all been doing.

I think the final would be 0-0. We ain't close. I don't know. That would be zero zero. We ain't close. I don't know. That would be a close. That would be probably Sue. I don't know that.

I don't know. Sue's got a couple close allies. As far as Teenie though, Teenie has Saul, I guess. I feel like Teenie has Saul.

Teenie has, I feel like she would get Andy. I feel like she absolutely would get Genevieve. I feel like Teenie could get us. I feel like they're like, I feel like she would get Andy. I feel like she absolutely would get Genevieve. I feel like Tini could get us. I feel like they're like, I feel like people have been lying to Tini. I'm just thinking who would win, but I don't

know. I mean, I think Tini has a little bit more charisma, but also, like, Sue's been loyal and played a pretty straightforward game, but has, you know, been in the mix a little bit more. You wanted an immunity idol didn't she yeah she's an idol was in that too cool line she's done she's done she's done the right thing

teeny can get like a sign from god on like who to vote and they would still vote the wrong person so don't do teeny like that i would saying i love teeny but i feel like and then he's talking about i love teeny i do but like we could all even teeny like they said in the game they're like because sam had that confessional oh uh you want something to get out teeny teeny will say and teeny was like yeah my like whatever the team was like my friends kind of view me like that too. Like I just, and so. God told me to vote you out. Teenie as a person, awesome. Teenie as a player, I think we could all agree, could use a little bit, but I don't even want to go

because Teenie's getting enough flack in general. Here's what I will say about Teenie. Catch Teenie on another season on fire. Like, I feel like sometimes you gotta... Reset a little bit. Right. Sometimes you gotta, you learn from yourself.

But it's safe to say we'll have to wait till next week to see who is crowned the winner of season 47. I do want to just say something because y'all know I be on the TikToks. I be following the drones. I do need answers about the

drones in New Jersey. Okay, what's going on here? However, while I was on my scroll of the TikTok, I did see Jesse Tannenbaum post a new video to his TikTok saying we are still casting for season 49. Purple Pants

Posse, listen to me and listen to me very clear. I need a Posse member on season 49. Purple Pants Posse, listen to me and listen to me very clear. I need a Posse member on Season 49. Get them videos in. Learn from Bruce's mistake. Go far in the game. I did. Hey, Jack.

Jack, it's not too late. Make your application. Get your video in. We'll help you out. Hit up Jesse. So, I may have submitted already. So, Jesse, if you're watching this, it looks like I'm on video.

Wait, what did you want to say to Jesse, Jack? You know, Jesse, I heard you were still taking applications. I think mine already might be in there Jack Atkins probably submitted that back in August maybe September you know if you need guys to come out there like you're talking about then give my video a watch

I think I was wearing the same shirt in my application so I apologize Jesse I believe it. I already spoke to you. I apologize to you. Listen, you heard it here first. What's the Jack Army name? What was it?

Hugh Jack? Jack Shack? Yeah, and if you're in the Jack Shack and you end up out there too, final two automatic. Well, listen, Bruce, whether you set this up or I set this up, I'm happy we got this podcast off

without any medical interventions. I'm happy that you are here. I can't wait to see you next week in Brooklyn because we're going to talk some more-ish. I'm loving it. I'm looking forward to it. I'm loving the idea of it. It's going to be a long, long night

which is a good thing. I made sure that I took Wednesday and Thursday out of work. I'm sticking around. Jack, I know you're nine feet tall, but I'm going to get on that neck if you keep messing with me. I'll have to be in New York, unfortunately.

Alrighty now, Bruce. I just canceled my flight after you said I'll have to be in New York unfortunately but alrighty now I just cancelled my flight after you said that well I remember the finale in New York Bruce says that's where we met for the first time that's right good memories of that that's a neutral zone right there for us

that is a neutral zone but there for us. That is a neutral zone. But around the corner, keep your eyes open. Wow. I truly appreciate it. I really do. You guys have a lot of fun. A couple of the podcasts that are out there that have fun as well, but not as much as you guys because you bring great energy.

So I really appreciate it. And then my friends usually say this when a couple other friends argue back and forth. They say, we don't like a mom and dad fight. I enjoyed watching the two of you fight today. We're just going back and forth. The only thing I would like to point out is that in looking at the stuff online,

real quick about 48, it looks like an older cast. The cast looks older. stuff online real quick about 48. It looks like an older cast. The cast looks older. I'm loving the idea of this. There needs to be older people playing this game because there are so many older people that want to play this game.

It's a different mindset that happens once you get a little bit older. You get a little bit of stuff behind you. To my knowledge... I don't know where y'all... To my knowledge... Yup. The cast is not out yet.

Okay. Just go off the leaks, man. It is what it is. They leak out. I got two things to say to that. One, I agree because the oldest person this season was only 45. Okay.

And B, you know, if we got an old season for 48, Jesse Tannenbaum, if we want to go young for 49, put him up. Put him up, Jax. Jack Atkins. Listen, we will do him up, Jack. Jack Adkins. Listen,

we will do what we can do. This has been a great episode. We will see you next week in Brooklyn for the Bryson Wintour 47 and we'll be back next week for our

final episode of Survivor News Season 47. Wendell, get your hat up. Okay, we got to go. Gio, Gio, Over the Edge he showed me a picture of those and he was excited

to give them to you so I saw you posted them on your story we're very excited so that was really nice to see that come hey Jack he only makes them for survivors that's fine that's okay you got it don't do that

well we're out we'll see you next week Bruce got his wave cap on listen it's time to go we out thanks for listening Washington it's the purple pants it's the purple pants it's the purple pants podcast you better get your headphones and

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