RHAP: We Know Survivor - Survivor 47 B&B Ep 3 w/ Jenny Autumn

Episode Date: October 7, 2024

Mike and Liana are joined by Jenny Autumn for Episode 3!

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You can stay for free. Hi everybody and welcome to the RHAP B&B for week 3 of Survivor 47. My name is Mike Blumen. Though we are recording at night, it feels like morning because we are in mourning today as we salute our fallen comrade, Asia Welch, first of her name. Long may she reign.

We're here to talk about everything that went wrong as she was as hung up and chewed up as one of Rome's four fish that he caught in this episode. I'm of course joined by Liana Boris. Liana, how are you? I took that personally, Mike. Which part? All of it. It's always such a journey to try to follow you and like, okay, where's this thread going as you introduce the podcast which is always a great start you know within seconds i'm already confused which totally makes sense look obviously this episode as knowing asia personally very difficult to watch but when i went back and re-watched it it's actually kind of a fun

episode i don't know if that's sacrilegious to say in our time of mourning i'm gonna say this is this is probably my favorite episode of the season. It was like the episode of personal conflict. Exactly. And what do I love? Personal conflict. Petty bitches. The drama. I love it. And every tribe had their own personal conflict. And that's what made it, I think, a really fun episode.

Of course, the boot, notwithstanding. Well, we are thrilled to be joined by our guest this week she is sweeter than watermelon pineapple any food that sam has never eaten before jenny autumn how are you i can't i can't believe now my first thought is like yeah sam has never eaten me uh sweeter than eggplant sweeter than broccoli you have to do another call out to his fiance on this call i'm sorry i swear listen i've never met sam uh yes i i'm really really glad to be here i'm so happy that you guys invited me back it's been a it's been a second since I've been on the B&B. I did text Mike at 9.31 p.m. after this episode to say, is it too late to call in sick from heartbreak?

Because when I agreed to be on the B&B this week, very excitedly, I did not expect under these circumstances. But you know what? If I am going to have to podcast about an episode of television that hurt my heart at the end where I saw a dear friend have their dream

taken way too soon from them. This is the venue to do it because, you know, you guys, we can keep it light and fun and uh you i you guys are a safe place for me the b&b is always somewhere i can go and fill up a glass of wine and make myself feel better so i think if i were to do it this is the place to do it so uh we'll get through this together it's gonna be to be fine. Yeah, this is Asia's funeral, but the hearse is a clown car. That's what we're doing tonight.

It's what she would want. All right. Well, obviously, you know, we're going to get into very recent events. But overall, Jenny, you know, we're three episodes in a little under a quarter of the season. Survivor 47 so far. Every tribe has gone to tribal council so that's something that's very rare especially in the new era what are you thinking about this cast and the way things have been going for the past five hours of combined footage we've seen so um here's here's

a thing about me um i i call myself an energy sponge um in that uh you know I feel deeply I feel things very very intensely and I think objectively these the the the season so far has been a banger I think it's been very it's been very fun we've gotten to know a lot about the interpersonal uh relations like like Liana saying I feel like we've gotten a lot of camp life stuff um I'm learning a lot about how people feel about each other which is my favorite thing about the these shows uh but two out of the three episodes were personally so stressful for me. I love Asia. I love baby Andy. The first episode, like with Asia going on the journey and worrying about her being on the out.

And then obviously everything that was going on with Andy. I felt sick the entire time. I'm not lying. I cried. I felt sick. And then then episode two I got a little bit of a reprieve and like I it was things were trending upwards and then I'm not gonna lie I had a bad feeling going into episode three oh I thought I felt pretty strongly that we were going to get Lavo going to tribal, that we were going to get our third, you know, third tribe going to tribal finally. But I was being cautiously optimistic that it was going to be fine. And I went in with an idea of what I thought might happen. I saw that previously on Survivor and I saw Asia featured and like in the in the, you know, conflict with Rome. And I was like, oh, Jesus. Yeah. The main person in conflict with the guy that has the one tribal idol.

Yeah. And so it's objectively taking my personal big feelings out of it. It's been a really, really good season so far. And I think that it's setting things up for for what's been a really really good season so far and I think that it's setting things up for for what could be a really fun ride um but my personal investment because I am a big uh soft baby um has made it really hard for me to enjoy it so um I will say on the rewatch at least knowing what I was getting, like, you know what I mean? Knowing the result, I think I was able to actually enjoy the other things because I was just tense the entire time. And I think that I like I blacked out during scenes of the episode. So it's a good thing I rewatched it.

Yeah. You know, obviously, I'm very sad for Asia. And it was it was a rough start for Andy, too. we play I'm very sad for Asia and it was it was a rough start for Andy too so it's been hard but I I there's so many other people that I like on the cast that I don't didn't know before and I'm invested in their journey um so even though I don't take any joy in in Asia's journey being over here um at least maybe that will mean there are some episodes where I won't be like white knuckling like my phone just like staring at the tv in pain um not to make it about me but it's been it's been hard I wish I didn't I wish I could just take myself out of it but that's just how that's just how she rolls the disrespect to tk my. It's no disrespect to TK.

I just, I've never met TK. I don't know him. Look, I think, yeah, I mean, obviously there's the sort of my own like personal rooting interests. And this happens on the show where you have a fave, right? I would say for me,

the closest was probably emily almost going out in episode one she was someone who i really connected with pre-season and was so scared for her ended up having a long run maybe similar to what andy might experience in this game but i think knowing someone on a personal level the last time that happened to me was owen from 43 and so i didn't really have to worry about that because Owen made it to the Vontraff Council. But I want to sort of put all of that personal stuff aside because I think that that's only one lens to be looking at the show. I really think that focusing on the show from,

okay, this is a TV product and we are watching, yes, Asia, we know Asia. Yes, we know baby Andy. But in my head, they're almost like two different things that I'm seeing Asia on TV and it doesn't even feel like Asia. Like that my head, they're almost like two different things that I'm seeing Asia on TV. And it doesn't even feel like Asia. Like that's not like, it's just fun to watch this character get into conflict with Rome. Like that was so enjoyable to me to watch her be so annoyed. It very much was for a Bruce 2.0 energy where you have someone who just gets so annoyed with someone else. And I really feel like

that's relatable content. Yeah. And I, I, I think I even tweeted it like early in the episode where I still had like a morsel of hope that this wasn't going to go poorly. I was like, I was loving the, the drama between Asia and Rome. And I was like, I need this to continue for as long as possible in this season because you know I knew Asia was a star you know what I mean I I knew that she was you know just like an incredible person before this seeing her on tv like packaged as a character like all of the the the facial expressions they were catching and stuff like that. I was like, oh, my God, this is incredible. Like, it's so cool to see her packaged as like a character that I have to kind of disconnect from, which was very, very hard. And so I was like,

I wasn't just like, OK, well, anyone who stands in her way immediately has to go. I was like, I just want to see this continue. So obviously, it was like doubly, you know, disappointing for me to see this rivalry that could have lasted longer and provided more and more content and entertainment for us. And it didn't end in the way that I personally would have wanted to. But you're right, like it, you're seeing people, it's edited, you know what I mean so it's like you can know a person under normal other circumstances and then seeing them on a show that is produced and you know under very stressful circumstances you're not gonna say yeah yeah not only that like the idea that she hasn't slept or eaten yeah like you're not seeing them the same way yeah so it

was it was interesting uh definitely it's like it does kind of take you out of it because there were times where i like i had to keep reminding myself like this is asia but also like this is asia as like the show is presenting her and her experience no i i think i think that these fires continue to need to be stoked. I think as much fun as Saul is, as he reacts to Rome, like Asia's pure derision at all things Rome. Now, maybe they purposely steer into the curve to build up this narrative, right? That would lead to her ouster in episode three.

But her talking about how in Rome's mind, every piece of fishing equipment has the name Rome on it to fish spit gate whether or not he was purposely doing it or not not since don't worry darling have we seen so much controversy over whether or not someone spit on somebody next to them but it was just such a great way to have her react to his nonsense and all that is to say as well i don't know if this is i am so entertained by rome i am immensely entertained by where do you find him the absolute malarkey this man is providing because he has somehow mixed together like chris noble with rupert with jane from nicaragua with a little bit of debbie with his like no i gotta do this thing in the challenge

myself like yeah he truly is a one-of-a-kind character to your point jenny i guess the answer to where they find him was a fortnight tournament maybe, but regardless, I'm glad it didn't take them a fortnight to put him on. Because I would say the only thing that, that, you know, I don't like about Rome is the fact that he's gotten so much airtime about Rome. That's why I thought actually that lava wouldn't go to tribal councils

because it was so much Rome in the first two weeks that I thought, okay, just like how Bella was like the Bruce tribe until the merge I thought that Lava was going to be the Rome tribe and I guess it still is I think with Rome also I really like the Debbie comparison actually for some reason I feel that that's quite apt maybe it's all the jobs because when ron was describing all of his experiences it very much to me fits with we should be seeing these different chyrons of all the different jobs that he could have had it's like yeah could have been a rapper basketball player it's the level of pettiness

that's what really makes me so happy that he's purposefully saying, I'm going to eat these two fish. I'm going to make so much noise, smack it on their bones that she's going to hear me. It's so, so petty. I love it. I love it. We had the Kendrick Lamar Drake beef like this is, you know, next level of that. OK, so the biggest hater for sure. It's it's really, really really entertaining and i think it's and obviously i mean it's not just lavo that has that drama it seems to be probably the most

extreme over there with rome and his very intense character but we have sue v kyle over uh on tuku you also have um annika and sam who are also going at it, right? So every single tribe had their own story of two people just not going along, getting along. Maybe as Andy described it, hitting that survivor wall. That's the thing. Yeah, it really does feel like I think apparently a lot of players say like seven or eight days in is from when from like a metabolic level, your body really starts to shut down that you're realizing you're expending much more calories than you're taking in. And I don't know if it's coincidental that we have seen all of these grievances bubble to the surface in the exact same time frame. in her exit press about how like it takes a lot for her to get irritable and actually express that um feeling so like palpably um and that's the thing it's like I would have never predicted

for Asia that that a big part of her story and journey would be about her intense annoyance with another person. Because, you know, a lot of people in the podcast sphere that could potentially end up on the show. I was not worried for her at all. Because I'm like this person, like she is so level headed. She is so um personable she's so good like this she enjoys talking to people on airplanes you know what I mean like and for the fact that she is the one who was just so visibly irritated by this person and other people were like, it was so intense for her. You could see it on her face and it made for excellent television, but I am, I'm sad that it was so hard for her out there because it's, it's true. Like this thing will put you in a situation where things about yourself that don't come out in everyday life, come up with the right slash wrong person.

Like that's, it is very, very interesting to me. And I truly think that if she was in a situation without a Rome there, this could be a totally different story for her because I don't think that many people can cause that sort of reaction from someone like her. I never would have predicted this, but Rome is one of a kind.

Like, it's he, you know, and other people are expressing their frustration. Like, it's not like she was the only one who was giving confessionals about being like, Oh my God,

it's a lot. Like you could see it on other people's faces, but, um, you know, it's, it's just the way things shook out. I don't know.

It, But, you know, it's just the way things shook out. I don't know. It does sort of seem like he maybe already decided before that he wasn't vibing with her. And it's like, I think sometimes that when you can tell someone it doesn't mess with you, then it's like you pick up on that and you're like, OK, and you're going to start getting annoyed by them as well. Like, I think that maybe that a little bit of that was happening between Asia and Rome, like her going away on the journey. I don't know if that like she lost time. He said it was a big mistake.

Yeah, exactly. I don't know. But Rome just seems to decide things about people. Like in the same episode, he was like celebrating TK's demise to kyle like in his like laughing in this man's face being like tk's gone i'm like what you you don't even know this man why are you so why are you like excitedly celebrating to you don't know what kyle's relationship to tk was like yeah do you think kyle's heart broke all over again but no no i do love you i absolutely love that kyle says that tk went and rome double fist pumps like that egotistical son of a bitch so cocky i love it oh that's the thing is listen i think your mileage may vary as to you know the jeff probst argument about how he doesn't

necessarily want to see you know the the villains in the ways that they were back in the days which is to say assholes i think survivor still is producing antagonists and rome is a fantastic antagonist i mean he's he's lying back you know like he's uh made the entire island his recliner subtitling the season giving it the theme survivor rome like this guy you give him an inch and he's gonna take your house uh and i love that he has produced as much great tv as he has and will until inevitably the fall of rome comes well i I think while we don't have Asia anymore, which it is actually very interesting that Rome and Asia are the two that got into conflict with, you're going to take a city versus a continent,

which one's going to win. I would probably have bet on the continent, but you know, Oh, did you like, did you like Rome's drawing by the way of Asia? Okay. I, he said it right. So he said, Oh, wouldn't that be funny if drawing by the way of asia okay i he said it right so he said oh wouldn't that be funny if we drew the continent of asia and i saw it do it yeah no well i saw that i saw it and i still was like what is that and i knew i knew that that was probably gonna happen it still took me a while to figure it out maybe some geography lessons are uh are unnecessary but anyway can people draw continents easily like from brain i don't think i could even draw my own continent well like north america i could draw but like i think i don't think i think

it would just look like a shape uh it is i don't know oh maybe maybe it's like a rorschach test yeah where it's like oh yeah asia looks the way you want it to look at this what does it remind you of yeah uh yeah that's actually the game we're playing today it's draw your own continent yeah oh okay so you know no no cheating look to go okay so we don't have Asia anymore. Right. OK, so. But we have the Asian who's rooting for Asia in Saul is still there. Asians for Asia. And yes, rooting for Asians, rooting for Saul.

So here's the thing, though. I so many great Rome moments in this episode. The one for me, though, that I really, really like was when Rome is lying to Saul about when this is so when the votes on Saul. I love it. And Saul's like, you just wouldn't wouldn't you just be telling me that? Like, get me to be confident. And Rome's lie in that moment. It's so it's like subtle, but it's so bad.

Right. Like, obviously, it's not one of the over the top moments for Rome, but it's there's that close-up of his face and you can see his you can see the thinking like you can see him crap trying to craft the lie it's so obvious saul can see right through it i mean saul saw through his body language when he lost the vote so i think that there's still an oppositional force to rome we see next episode it looks like there's going to be a little bit of tailing uh when it comes to an idol search so yeah saul's gonna pick up that petty baton from where asia left off and which is also very exciting too because yes rome does have i mean it's tough and this is certainly the argument as to whether or not the move should be done is that like okay if genevieve is apparently as locked in with Rome

as we have been told, and he now has a vote steal, then arguably he has three votes out of five. But, you know, they could easily, I think, convince him that they have the votes and he doesn't need to use the vote steal and possibly get rid of him. I mean, I think the idol for now, until he ends up inevitably finding another one, definitely depowers him a bit where I think there is still a little bit of

like genuine personality magnetism. I don't think teeny and Kishan are really saying like, we are holding our nose. We hate working with Rome, but we will for this vote. Like I think there is at least a little bit of something that made them click otherwise they wouldn't have joined up in the first episode but I do think that having that idol kind of out of the way again as long as he doesn't find it will make the options a lot more appealing because then he could be considered an option from now on I will say on the the rewatch of the episode too as well

because like I said, you know, when you're watching it in real time and you're stressed about the result, like things just happen and I think that I just stress blacked out during a lot of it. And also you're like thinking about the result that you want to happen.

So you're kind of like, so anyway re-watching it I saw so much that told me like I like teeny had been saying various points throughout the episode they were saying uh Kishan is my number one and we're leaning towards working with um with Rome and Genevieve like that was said more than once that that sentiment was shared more than one time and so I you know not a lot of explanation why um and and that's the argument that you could make because it's like okay you're having to choose between two pairs and I think that it just depends on like what you want for your long game, because there, in my opinion, there's like two, two ways you can do it. You look at Asia and, and Saul as two very savvy, you know,

even keeled people. I don't know their sweat level, but, I don't know their sweat level, but and people that you could rely on to be a tight, solid four if you can get to a merge situation together. And however, if you're concerned about, you know, your win equity working long term with two people that you think are also threats to win I guess I can see the rationale of being like I need to go to the merge with people that I also think I can beat like I'm working with them but I also think that I can beat them in a situation and I think that that's where the the Rome and Genevieve side of it becomes a desirable path if you're teeny and Kashan because again I can't speak too much on what Genevieve's position in game is because we have not been given a lot of information we haven't even heard from Genevieve a lot about how she feels about Rome

but we are being told like third party that they're really tight. Well, episode one, obviously. We know that she named the Flint Mr. Flint. Oh, that was the cutest thing ever. It's a good name. Hi, Mr. Flint. You know, they were trying to give her content in this episode

where she could have possibly been a boot. Should we cast like who could we bring in to voice Mr.int what would be a fun celebrity voice i mean i i just think of like ken mcnichol because i'm thinking of like squid squid mcsquiddington like and i'm like i'm oh i gotcha i got no like i'm hearing ken mcnichol's voice i was i was thinking like more celebrity i was thinking like more celebrity. I was thinking like H. John Benjamin, Bob's Burgers. Yeah, okay.

I was like, does he have that budget? Oh yeah, Seth Rogen. Okay, Jen. Oh, you can use me to light a spliff. To go back to what you were talking about,enny in terms of the the argument of like what side do you go with yeah i we always hear this and i also personally believe that if you're going to find an ally you want to find someone who's loyal to you and there are not a lot of ways to show loyalty on survivor voting that's one way but also sharing information is another

if i'm in teeny's position and there's someone who's coming up to me sharing everything with me, to me, that's a sign of loyalty. That's a sign that they're willing to tell me that they found the idol box. Allow me to look at the idol box and still be chill with working with me after I showed the idol box to someone else. Also tell me about the fact that they didn't actually lose their vote. They indeed got a steal about right so there's multiple examples where Rome is demonstrating loyalty and that I think can't be understated and is something that especially in the first couple days when you haven't even been to tribal council I think that means a lot yeah for a first vote especially of like this guy's giving me information for free this is someone that i not only want to

keep around but also keep in my good graces too like obviously the discussion was not going to be go for rome but go for genevieve but you know i think fool me once shame on you fool me twice i'm gonna vote you out next time i think rome would feel incredibly burned if after all of this his closest ally goes out and now yes he's outnumbered but he uh has the opportunity to much like everyone else did on the journey just like spread information like wildfire to everybody else and that that was another one of the things that i caught in the rewatch is that teeny said, you know, I think Rome is actually pretty loyal. And I wonder if Rome had not come back and told teeny what had actually happened and that he had gotten the extra vote and had lied,

whether teeny would be as like looking to work with him as much because i i really thought that they'd be way more spooked about the situation with the idol box like maybe it was just the way it was edited to feel like oh my god this is so awkward like you got caught showing another person that was not looped in on this before they before Rome even went to look at it himself and read it like that was so bad I I was thinking like I would be wanting to get rid of that person the soonest possible chance I could because I'm scared that they like, they are holding back and just like, okay, I know I can't trust this person, but I'm going to pretend I can trust them. Like I would probably spiral about it being like, that was so bad. Like that looked really bad on me. And I need

to get rid of this person. Because but but I think the fact that he showed another vote of confidence in coming back from the journey and saying here's the real story I did get um the extra vote or the steal a vote that kind of solidified like okay I haven't lost him I did not like screw up when I brought Kishan over to look at the idol like he does want to work with me so you know what he's got some power and the what I was going to say is that like you look at Saul and and Asia as two people that are like very strategic socially savvy type people that are going to get with other people and probably make friends Rome is going on journeys and is laughing in the face and celebrating about another like person on

another tribe going without having any context of whether that's a happy thing for the person that you're like like he's so messy that I can imagine being teeny and keshawn looking at him and being like okay like he's a mess but he's our mess and when if we get to emerge yeah uh he might get clipped but hopefully it won't be me now there's the flip side of being like do people continue to keep a wild card like Rome in the game being like, he's socially a mess and is not going to get votes. If he gets far and gets to the end, be more afraid of a, of a teeny of a Keyshawn, like,

and perhaps would they have been better to keep other targets like an Asia, a soul? Like that's what I'm questioning of. But again, I'm sure that these were the things that, that Keyshawn and Tini were weighing in this decision of the two pairs to go to. And, you know, it's like as much as I personally hurt,

I can understand the reasoning of being like, these two, I don't think have a chance at gathering an army against me. And I don't think that they're going to. I think that they're going to be loyal to me. And I think that I can beat them. And I think that they're going to make themselves a bigger army against me. And I don't think that they're going to, I think that they're going to be loyal to me. And I think that I can beat them. And I think that they're going to make themselves a bigger target than me. So watching it back,

I like, I understood a little bit more. And it was, it was kind of, you know, explained to us a little bit. But yeah, that was beautifully said.

All I could think when you said vote of confidence was i feel like there's something there that you can name an advantage i got the vote of confidence oh that is could be an advantage name okay wait wait wait okay yes you have the vote of confidence advantage this entitles you to it's honestly inspired well he is his own vote of confidence i kind of feel like it's a better name for the for the bank of vote advantage where you like you purposely don't vote at this tribal council so you can vote again in a future one of like i am confident that my vote isn't needed tonight so i can use it later on boom okay so just like shot in the dark you everyone starts with a vote of confidence

advantage okay and you can choose to play your vote of confidence it's exactly what mike said where i'm i'm so confident i'm banking my vote of confidence okay that's what you bank your vote then you don't vote and then you can use your vote at a later tribal council and and now can people is it always obvious? Because with the shot in the dark, it's revealed that someone played the shot in the dark. Like, you know what I mean? No, I know you just have to do the math.

Yes. You have to do the math. Okay. And then also, because they keep doing this stupid lose the vote thing, then you can be like, oh yeah, I lost my vote. But then you actually play your vote of confidence. Ah. Yeah.

I love that. To talk about the stupid, I'm so, oh my God. Okay, I know it works perfectly with the vote of confidence yeah i love that to talk about that stupid i i'm so oh my god okay i know it works perfectly with the vote of confidence if they mention it's um obviously in favor of anything we come up with no matter how stupid so pro vote of confidence very anti steal a vote lose a vote thing when you have a tribe of five people to me that takes so much drama out of a potential situation if we have yellow gotta go back to tribal council to me it feels so boring i'm so bummed bored i'm bored i'm bored i feel like it's more boring than anything else like to me that immediate risk is just so not worth it yeah because otherwise like if it's a possible three two vote and someone's on the middle and

you have to figure out who to swing over no you, you just need an ally and a steal a vote. And you're basically good no matter what. It's so I really, really, really, really don't like the lose a vote. I mean, I understand the whole risk reward thing that they want to go with. So, OK, so you have to offer up some kind of risk reward. You've gone and I understand. Oh, should they have gotten the chance to pick from the bag? They went on the journey. That's them choosing to choosing to risk okay so they've chosen to risk there's got to be some risk involved can we come up with something else that's not a lose a vote

maybe it's a uh lose your tribe something from the tribe goodbye mr flint goodbye mr flint yes you have to like risk something for the group i don't know or just something else other than the lose a vote i just i find it i just find it annoying the whole is the one thing you have right like right your vote is your voice yeah that's the one thing you can use but especially the five small tribes especially in small tribes well this is the thing though i'm not like i agree totally that i think the lose a vote has not only gotten a little road i think it does ironically enough cause more stagnant gameplay in a tribe of five my issue was more so okay

you're going on the journey we for some reason brought back the blankenship 44 premiere okay reaching into the bag and see if you grab it and double or nothing but you're forced to do it like that's the thing to me is that yes you could go back or forth as to whether or not you lose your vote but 80 of journeys you have the opportunity to offer it up at least usually when you go on the journey you can choose not to play if you don't want to now maybe sometimes like in 46 we saw like okay one of you must play but even then there's still like this first barrier to entry here once again i still don't understand why no the second you step foot on that boat the the second you risk your vote. And it just feels like an unnecessary step to me.

They want things to happen. They want there to be these wrinkles. And now that they've seen people choose not to do things, they're like, well, that's like production. It's like, that's not fun. Well, you know what? If they want wrinkles, we need Botox right now. Iron those wrinkles out.

I don't want no wrinkles. Yeah, it's rough. And I, again't we won't know maybe in the next episode we'll get more of an explanation from from teeny and kashan about why the decision to go you know where they did but you have to think like oh because everyone's talking like well why like they could have literally done what they told Asia they were going to do, put the votes on Genevieve and just make sure that Rome plays the idol on himself. And then he doesn't have an idol next

and you have the numbers. But then when he also has a steal a vote and you know about that now, that's like, you know that this person's loyal to you and if you choose to wrong them you can't get them out you know that they have an idol so you have to get out someone that they're working with you've now like pissed them off and they now still have something like i i can see from teeny's perspective how that can be very, very intimidating and that it's like you could want to work with that because they're they're clearly giving you information. But it's also like a little scary.

You're like, I this is not the person I want to piss off. I think the the vote on Saul. Did Saul get one vote? Was that just like a shot in the dark protection? Do we think because I was trying to figure out like why are they pissing off Saul as well like well listen I think they've kind of been for a penny and for a pound

like he's pissed off no matter what yeah that's very fair well I think the only question I think I still have lingering was because I know Asia and her exit interviews didn't talk about a 2-2 split she did she did okay yeah I don't remember it was because of the vote steal because and her exit interviews didn't talk about a 2-2 split. She did. She did? Okay. It was because

of the vote steal. Because if it's a 2-2 split and Rome steals someone's vote or uses an extra vote, then it doesn't matter, right? Because then he has the majority no matter what. So she felt like it had to be split 3-1 if they had 4.

Wait. Yeah, but he's okay. All right. Sure. Wait, can he play the steal a vote after the I'm so confused. Like you're saying that he could have so let's say it before though, right? Wouldn't have to play it before.

So you wouldn't 2-2-2 and so if he let's say it's Keyshawn and teeny voting for genevieve in asia and saul voting for rome and then genevieve and rome voting for asia rome can say i'm stealing asia's vote and then it doesn't matter if it splits because then it's like what's the operation that's what we're talking about what's the order of operations because because when do you have to do that before vote yes yeah so they would know that rome's stealing a vote right and then they'd have to do like a hurried up whispering to be like no

no put all the votes on rome instead or put all the votes on you just plan for that you just say okay if he doesn't use it and then if he does this but if he does use it then we do this well that's what they were trying to do preemptively basically by being like okay if he uses something or also they didn't know if they had a vote steal or an extra vote if he uses an extra vote as well like that also kind of jeopardizes the situation ultimately you know we're thinking about this from the perspective of Saul and Asia who were assuming that they were the four they were the core four with, with Keyshawn and Tini. And I think very evidently there was a decision of, okay, well, we're going, we're going with Rome and Genevieve, and it's a matter of who are we letting go of, Seoul or Asia. And I think that, I don't know

how much the conversation about Asia not willing to vote for Seoul ended up weighing like whether it was going to be her or him. But I think it's it's it's great to think about all these scenarios. But I think that the decision may have already been made at that point. And it was more so like the but but if you're Asia and you think that this is your four, I completely understand where she's coming from being like, this is the four. This is our four.

We don't need to let go of Sol. Like, let's keep this together. When Teenie and Sean are like, kind of like, well, we're probably just going to get rid of one of you. So it's you. I'm going to try and keep you. It's, I just think that maybe there was just nothing we could do in this situation. There's too too much power and that's the decision they made and I think like we've

laid out the reasons to to keep those two you can make sense of it I don't know if it works out it could really blow up in in their face but I've been trying to think liana since you've been speaking about what you could give up instead of your vote i don't know like could you your underwear you could you give up your clothes uh maybe i mean that's a very valuable asset of yours could you give could you be like uh i mean could it be more of a tribal decision could you be like i will give our tribe a disadvantage in the next challenge if i lose this game yeah that's a on like similar vibes to giving up the flint right that you have to and also you have to risk something that is a group reward for personal gain i think in that situation though i almost want the odds to be better because i want people to go for it like what i don't want

people to do is that you can if if they have the choice, right? Assuming they have the choice, then to just say like, no, look, I don't want to piss people off. But if you have a two and third shot of getting an advantage, like then maybe people will go for it. I think that that could be quite fun. The other thing I was thinking is if it's close to merge,

you could, you know, maybe give up a shot at individual immunity. I was literally going to suggest that, Liana. I know. Cause I was like if it's too early and they're like i don't even know if i'm gonna get there i gotta i gotta make sure that i can like i don't know or maybe you have your you have to do something special in the next yeah i want a little you have to say something yeah you just like do a thing say a thing

i don't know we can rhyme for the next three days or you're or you're disqualified yeah you just like do a thing say a thing or like you can rhyme for the next three days or you're or you're disqualified yeah you're we take you out the island or or yeah you have like a you have like a side quest you have to complete in the next immunity challenge and if you fail it your tribe immediately like loses immunity or something that's the actual immunity all right well you did win this challenge lavo but teeny you weren't hopping on one foot in the during the puzzle there's like a disqualification or something i don't know i just love i love a cheeky side quest sam has to eat pineapple and broccolini together oh my god i i look a little bit of a hot take uh i would not be surprised if this is like

the d's toe scene where we're like remember when we watched d's toe and we're like why was that in the episode like where did that come from because like we've got a bunch of other sam stuff in this episode obviously the pettiness between him and annika i don't think it will come into prominence as much as d's Toad did with that immunity win but if Sam ends up winning we might have to start watching these odd number seasons and like if someone just gets the most out of nowhere

character moment about something that has nothing to do with the game that person's got the million dollar check right now for them sorry I was just going to say like he sorry oh go ahead i was just gonna say like he makes it to like the final three breakfasts and there's like watermelon and pineapple at it and he's like wow can't believe on survivor i'm having my first watermelon and pineapple

that's what i'm hoping for some kind of callback some point i don't know if he's gonna have to eat eggplant later on or something but like i need i need this to come back i really really want this i want a reason for this to have been seen because otherwise that's ridiculous the fact that he's never had watermelon or pineapple and i love how the the way that every i don't remember who was rachel maybe who was like so you've never been around watermelon it's like no no i've been around watermelon i've just never all my best friends are watermelon like i personally just not interested in watermelon what uh it's amazing yeah which is the more entertaining conflict on the other two tribes that we liked out of this episode and hopefully for more episodes to come annika versus sam or kyle versus sue kyle versus sue though also seems like a little more

one-sided it's one-sided that's why i like annika versus sam way more i'm way more invested in that feud it feels like mutual disdain and i i don't take poor baby kyle I feel like is on his own little island he's trying and Sue has power and is just like you vote you voted for me and so you're dead to me whereas like I love it you know Anika like the Anika and Sam thing is so

much more exciting to me because we haven't seen any sort of strike at each other besides them getting frustrated interpersonally um whereas like we know like kyle voted for for um and that's why sue is mad and she he's trying to kind of like get in with her now and she's not having it so we we've seen something play out there that explains it i think that the I love when people are so annoyed personally with people that it clouds their game judgment. And like, they start making decisions, not based on what they think is best for their game and more on what they personally want for themselves because they're so irritated with somebody like I feel like we've seen a lot that was almost like a big theme of Big Brother this this past season

um where it's just like people are making decisions that are like because they just dislike somebody um or they just like I don't know I I love seeing that kind of conflict where it's like literally clouding their judgment they're like I don't care if I, I, I love seeing that kind of conflict where it's like literally clouding their judgment. They're like, I don't care if this is what's best. This person is driving me crazy. I want them gone. Um, and how that fuels their game decisions. Um, so that's why I'm more invested in that one because we haven't seen how it can play out. I, I mean, Sam has literally said that that's who his, his next target target in the in the tribe is like he said to sierra that he wants to keep andy um so we have to believe that if they have their way

and they go to tribal that that annika is going to be the target but what if they don't ever go back to tribal that's the thing is that this might be another ellie gabler situation uh where like the tension just bruise and bruise until it gets to a mergatory situation i will say i agree that i think kyle and sue i mean it's very fun to have sue basically turn away any information due to the fact that he voted for her i mean abby marie. I'm so happy to see her emerge here. But Annika versus Sam, I would say even more so than Rome versus Asia, felt so

palpable. There's that one moment where they're cutting the end of the clothesline. And I understand what Annika's doing, trying to encourage her to be like, Sam sawing would look better than hacking. Girl, he's holding a blade,

and the blade is six inches from your face. Do you really want to try to micromanage in this moment? Like, maybe step around the corner, and then you can advise from afar. I would have been more scared of the bouncing of the knife near my face that's going terrifying yeah exactly but the the the moment where she suggests to do the sawing and it immediately cuts was just oh oh oh it's so awkward and he gets full named he's not sam he's samuel that just adds another level of intensity to this situation I mean now with with Annika

having lost her vote I'm actually maybe weirdly less invested in that situation and maybe more invested in Tuku because of Gabe specifically wanting to bring in Kyle and also giving that oddly specific situation where Gabe would call Kyle to be his limousine driver and that Kyle would fly to Baltimore to be his limit. Why is Kyle a limousine driver? Is this something I don't know about? Why a limousine driver? It felt weirdly. I feel like he kind of has the limousine cap, like he's got that little dangle cap that he could be like, sure thing, Mr. Gabe. To get you there right away sir mr gabe there are baby birds on the side of the road should we pick him up yeah gabe gabe like his

analogies for people are so strange like we had the birds and now he's just like yeah kyle he could be my on-call limousine driver like this, this is where we're at in season 47. You know, we've run out of the obvious analogies for people. And we're trying to be like, oh, yeah, they're my dead birds. Oh, yes, they're my on-call flying... Except the birds aren't dead. Why did we talk about the dead birds? No, they're dead birds.

No, you guys have made this the lore this is like this is going to be Mandela effect of the birds it has not ceased to be I'm sorry I've decided that that is part of the lore now that you've put it out there

well I think that's what Gabe's final tribal council speech will be if he sits there next to sue and caroline he's like i found these little baby birds but before they grew up i murdered them with my bare hands and i took them in my fists and i punched my way through the game when all of you got hit, decked in the eye, got a nice shiner. It was the brass knuckles of baby bird beaks through peeking through my fingers. That's right. I did it. I weaponized them. And everyone's like, what is happening?

Is he having a meltdown? That's so specific. Rum's like, too arrogant. Yeah. Too arrogant. Get him out of here. Can't vote for him too cocky Kyle's like do you need a ride can I take you

somewhere I took that personally alright well we need to get back to Asia if but for just a second are we flying to give her a ride to the airport yeah we'll give the ride of asia to asia that connection time to talk about how we thought

asia would do in oh my gosh the preseason oh boy now liana i, I'll have you stop at just the Survivor 47 prediction before we move on to Survivor 50 and then Asia becoming the host of the show. So how did you think she was going to do before the season started? Well, I did have Asia making the finale. So

listen, if you're going to be wrong, this is the one to be wrong on right you know what we're i shot for amongst the stars for asia okay so i said that she would create a tight relationship early with teeny over their shared love of survivor they bring in saul as their third and run things on lavo pre-jury once Once the merge hits Asia slides into the background as more intense OTT players, knock each other out of the game.

However, once those rambunctious players are gone, Rome, Sam, Sue, Gabe sets his sights on the social threats. His number one target Asia in a three to two vote. Asia is taken out of the game.

Her ally was teeny and her enemy was Gabe. I think we now came out with a perfect way to describe Rome. He's Rome-bunctious. He is so Rome-bunctious. Rome-bunctious. Being Rome-bunctious right now. I love getting, my favorite thing about the predictions along the way is like piecing together the story of like what you guys think

is going to happen and so I feel like I've gotten so much intel about uh what Liana thinks is going to happen this is very fun um what I mean here's the thing Mike obviously you still have to say say what you think is going to happen I feel like you're maybe going to go on a similar road. It's like there is very reasonable, like there are enough reasons to say Asia making finale, Asia winning. She had all of the tools. You could take this cast and like shuffle it in a bunch of different ways i think there are so many versions of that where she is long game um so i i feel i probably would have made a similar uh

prediction here but like this is where mike's like i said asia was first boot yep that's me mr pessimist over here iist over here. I mean, Liana, I think we should call ourselves the Natalie and Nadia podcasting because first episode, you and I both said John Lovett would make pre-jury. Yes. Last week,

you and I both said TK would be pre-jury. Yes. This week, you and I both said Asia would make the finale. Wow. So this just makes it even worse for our guests who really have to comb through the finer details and comb we shall this is what I had to say about our good friend

Asia I said Teenie's knowledge of RHAP forced Asia into an alliance of mutually assured destruction though eventually through circumstance and a lack of options they'll end up becoming her tightest ally in the game asia and teeny work together to form the lavo tories the majority alliance that's gonna flush away the competition no good lord mike the core group dominates the pre-merge and looks to continue where the last tribe

a last red tribe left off until a massive power shift massively changes the game, resulting in Rome's blindside. After that, Asia and Teenie look to be primed to go, but between an individual win streak by Asia and the ever-shifting sands of power, they're able to somehow dig their way out of things, becoming the last pair standing. Asia's streak of safety finally ends when she loses Final Four immunity. The tightest duo in the game is forced into firemaking

where Asia goes down to teeny. In her final words, she can barely look into the camera, vaguely uttering, Rob, I tried my best. As a result, upstart RHAP fans start a change.org petition to end Final Four firemaking.

It gets 420 signatures. Her closest ally was Teenie. Her enemy was Jeff Probst circa 2017. Wow. I'm depressed now. I was, you know what? I've had a couple days to get over this and um mike your explanation of the the sadness of asia not being able to look at the camera in her final words and emotional saying rob i did my oh my god i'm hurt oh wow okay

this is yeah this is hard because if you guys are just going real close on on each of these uh makes it really difficult okay i do have a decision though i do have a decision i am going to give this one to liana um listen you guys very similar uh paths you you you paths. You foresaw her working with Teenie. I think that a lot of us were expecting and hoping for that. I'm going to give this to Liana because in her explanation, she also at least mentioned Sol, which I think ended up being, you know, clearly Asia's real true number one ally um and if we're gonna use

placement uh asia goes out at five instead of four in in liana's prediction so that like i i if we're gonna just we're splitting hairs at this point okay guys both had very similar uh but yeah i'm gonna give this one to liana that's a very nice way to say that i just gave you terminal depression with yeah you also pulled me back into a dark place um that i was not prepared for so that also uh colored my my perspective here no but you know when you when you are deciding between two very similar uh outcomes you have to start being like okay what are the little tiny details here that uh make it feel like one is a little bit closer to the other so maybe if you had mentioned uh hating Rome I mean you said a Rome blind side yes Yes, she hates Rome. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I knew that.

Oh, sorry. I missed that. I just. There was a smudge on the screen. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Skip that line. Oh, my God. So stupid. I can't believe it. I mean, listen, I think Liana and I are already kind of like in the doghouse for not picking Asia as our winner pick both. But I think also as well, like it a win-win for us in that if Asia won that's yeah if you win then there was a chance that someone else we pick one exactly yeah exactly yeah you have to you have to have that contingency plan and I understand and respect that from from both of you um but yes I'm going to give this one to Liana diversified our assets yes yes you must that's what does work. You know, we're known

for that sound financial advice. Hashtag business. All right. Well, let's talk about something a little less serious than business and business with our businessman hats. Let's talk about fashion. Yeah. Put on my fashion hat now. Yes, exactly. Thank you, Mike. Take your fashion, Mike. I'm loving your shirt. Oh, thank you.

It's my, I wear this to every funeral. It's like a moon skull thing. Yeah, it is. That's a moon skull. Yeah. Yeah. The skull and the moon. What are the other little stars?

There's a skull sun and there's a skull moon and then there's like just sort of they're not exactly pentagrams but like they're probably like a it's giving spoopy season you know exactly well I'm also wearing the shirt I wear to all funerals yes let's see the

let's see the status holding up quite nicely I would say yeah speaking of fashion the hat washing machine oh yeah Let's see the status. Holding up quite nicely, I would say. Yeah. Speaking of fashion, the hat. The washing machine. Oh, yeah. Top tier fashion. All right. Putting it in the dryer, Liana, is what I want to know.

We air dry our clothing. You have a clothesline? We have a clothesline. Oh, what is it like setting it up? Because, I mean, you know. The clothes are wet. Some hacks. I couldn't you know, some hacks. I couldn't full name Pouya.

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All right. As you may have guessed, we are going to do Buff or Snuff, where we talk about the fashion items from this season. Which, by the way, so I had already grabbed there's this the moment when we have the uh tepid altercation on gotta where Andy is just twirling his hair and I had grabbed that still and then went on Twitter not five minutes later to find that Mike Bloom had also tweeted essentially the same still. So I really think that the hair twirling is just general vibes. We should all keep that in the back of our heads. Sorry, I was gonna say, Annie brings up how his hair looks in this episode when he's talking

to Sierra. Was that this episode or last episode? Yeah, no, it was this episode. Yeah, it was this episode um and his hair is looking beautiful so good so good the last person's hair i remember was jamie um that her hair also i feel like looked absolutely gorgeous and i think he's got that shine those locks just well that's the thing if you're not washing like the natural oils are left in there and you're basically living out a Garnier Fructis commercial for 28, six days. Oh, man, that stuff smells so good. I'm telling you that like a great amount of the episode, Phil and I are just saying how handsome Andy is. Like, like we're constantly just like, look at him. Look at that man.

Like we're constantly just like, look at him. Look at that man. So I love this look. It's almost like his hair is almost kind of doing like a mushroom with the way the buff is kind of pushing it up. I actually genuinely don't even know how he is doing that. I tried. And it kind of looks like the bump it. It does. Yeah.

Pushing it up like that. Honestly, can't love it. All right. So the very first look that we're going to talk about well the specific item that we're going to talk about was what inspired uh originally the idea to do buffer snuff oh leona this is usually behind the paywall i know it wasn't covered wait oh wait a second okay so literally i think you're going to show us your toes liana no no no no no no no no i'm i am also wearing your chair no okay well i'm just so passionate about this so okay so for those of you who are not watching the video this is a picture pictures of asia's socks specifically

the ones that she was wearing in the challenge why was she wearing socks in the challenge was it was it because to protect against the wiki feed thing like was is that why because are they like campers that's why i can't even imagine wearing like wet fabric socks to swim in the ocean and then walk across about maybe they're grippy socks i don't know so maybe that was yeah maybe it was for the balance beam specifically it was like okay you want that friction to kind of grab as much of that balance beam as possible but i don't think i've ever i mean we've definitely pointed out the faux pas of people swimming with sneakers i don't think i've ever seen someone swim in socks

at least not in quite some time oh i feel like it'd make your feet so heavy well but i think some of them were wearing shoes i thought i saw people on the balance beam in shoes which i would imagine for the balance beam portion yeah it's pretty much like a risk of like okay do you want to swim with wet shoes but you have a better time navigating the balance as opposed to being barefoot or in in asia's case possibly did like were the soles of her shoes um the kind that would be really slippery on it and she was like the bounce game i thought he was anyways yes um but like is that maybe what you're thinking like at least the fabric might like grip better and she if she has like one of those really slippery bottoms of the i don't know these are the things that we need

addressed in exit interviews Mike okay I love hearing what they thought was going to happen but I also want to know why they chose to wear socks in a water challenge I need to know

I could text Asia after this and i think i might just please yeah hey i know you have this like devastating episode of exposing your whole soul on survivor but um why'd you wear socks yeah the question is why the socks i okay here's the thing personally i i i buff the the socks like i love these socks but i just i i feel them weighing me down in the water from a practical standpoint i don't get it yeah but maybe she thought instead like if i'm not the best swimmer if the socks let me sink down to the ocean floor they don't say i can't run there instead of swim to get to the end to get to the buoy ah yes well famously in all olympic swimming events you see michael phelps just sink to the bottom of the pool and walk along it and

that's how he got all of his olympic medals he walks really fast yeah like really wide stride that's why usain bolt could have been like an eight-time medal swimmer as well if he'd just known the sock trick yeah oh my god guys olympic swimmers don't want you to know this one hack there's stocks in the pool so you sink to the bottom and then just run run yeah okay all right wait one more question yes so have have you guys like ever put like a glove on in water okay wait wait wait is my hand already in the water and then i put the glove on while my hand is submerged or am i wearing a glove and then submerge it into water why would i put a glove on in the water? So here's what I'm thinking. And this is what I'm wondering if like the sock could have the same,

cause there's nothing worse than when the water gets like trapped inside and it becomes like its own bubble because I have put gloves on while in the shower to like, okay. I know. Because I like, not like winter gloves, Mike, like, like, okay, I know. Because I- No, not like winter gloves, Mike. Like plastic gloves. But like while you're taking a shower?

Yeah, like silicone gloves. Oh, latex. Like cleaning gloves, but not like the big- Yeah, the other thing I was thinking of was like dish gloves. Not the yellow ones. The ones that are a little bit tighter. They're like our chicken gloves.

You know when you're like taking apart a chicken. Yeah. Oh, I thought you meant if you blow it up, it looks like a chicken. And you put it on your head and you go cock-a-doodle-doo.

No. Can we not all do that? No, you put it on your head like a cocks. Like a cocks on a looser. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, this is the first time we've had you put it on your head like a cocks like a cocks on a looser yeah yeah yeah well i mean this is the first time i've had some cocks on your head i've tried a plant yeah unlike sam did you know andy's bi i'm bi i'm oh i'm bi i've tried. Hello. Bye.

I agree with Liana. You say goodbye so quickly? Yeah, I would buff the aesthetic, but I snuff the instance in which we see them. I don't think they're going to take forever to dry. I love them. I do love them. I just do not understand them, but an incredible choice for survivor

attire yeah and I anyway I was worried about getting the pockets of water stuck in the sock akin to in in the glove are we sure those are socks what would they be otherwise

Mike like have a run in with some coral and like really messed up really bloody oh my god bloody meaty feet yeah maybe that's why she was actually voted out it's like well this is for her own safety she just lacerated the lower part of her ankle there's a reason why rome was the one using the fishing equipment okay it's dangerous out there in the ocean. He was just being a protector. He was just protecting her feet. All right. Let's talk about Caroline's blouse, Mike. This is something you wanted to talk about.

Yeah, I love it. It's the third look. It's the one when she has it like all the way buttoned up when she's in the jungle that for some reason I really enjoy. Very demure. It does look very demure yeah like it looks very different i think it's honestly i think it's because that we usually see these types of button downs on men and so it's very rare to see them on women and also i love leon that you had the full array of looks here because like we've got she was able to really skid a cat nine ways here oh my god it is for me it's the styling it right the button up gives you opportunities to

style it in different ways you can have it half buttoned you can have it unbuttoned all the way you can have it tied you can have it buttoned up i think it just gives you a lot of versatility i think the flowers your french talk exactly can do a French talk. Exactly. You can do a classic millennial French talk. There's just so many things about it that, you know, just give it a little extra zhuzh. I also like the fact that it's not just completely blue. It's white, but with the, you know, the little blue flowers. Very, very adorable. I like it.

I love it. I love that she's paired it with, you know, the blue flowers with like the little blue like top underneath. She's very coordinated. Like she really understood the assignment of like, which is why apparently she was very clumsy in Ponderosa. Listen. I get her. I understand. Can't take a corner to save my life, girl.

She does have a bruise on her leg. So that might be. I get a bruise on my leg if the wind is strong enough. OK, that's just how that's just how we roll. I got a bruise on my leg. You can't stop doing the robot. Huh? I have a lot of very stupid jokes in this podcast, particularly this week.

Let's just move on, Jenny. Just ignore him. That's the best. I also will say i i have i did not pick this out by myself some people have pointed out to me especially in this third picture caroline looks a lot like laurel from the challenge in this particular angle yes yes she does yeah she really does in this angle the her like just the facial features all of them really look like laurel maybe she'll be a champion

in the individual immunity challenges or maybe she'll be the champion of survivor 47 you never know um yeah i love i love this i love the idea of like the over shirt um because it's like you can if it's lightweight you can cover up if you need a little bit but you don't want to get too hot like endless endless options I always worry about choosing something that's like on the white side because it's like it's just gonna get dirty I saw Andy's outfit I was like what are you doing my friend but you know I think because it didn't seem to be like a stark white to start I think that as it gets dirty it's like that wasn't that wasn't white to start it's fine it's just more off white now

she's killing it she looks great next I have multiple clothing items from teeny I want to talk about the whole ensemble because as I was watching through the episodes, I rewatched every single episode on fast speed looking for items of clothing. Yeah. And Teeny's clothes kept standing out to me. So we have three items for Teeny. So the first is a crew neck sweater with, I think, four Canadian geese. Those are Canada geese, baby. That's got to be a talking point with Genevieve, right?

Of like, yeah, I'm repping right now. Yeah. Maybe they bonded over that and we didn't even see it. Like I would have loved to have that explanation. This is probably sorry. You know, I love geese. Yes, of course. I'm a waterfowl enthusiast.

I literally this is probably one of my favorite articles of clothing on survivor ever whoa I love teeny you freaking nailed it okay I like if you're I know you you might not even know who I am you probably you're not pandering to me but I felt like this was for me this sweater is for me okay love it 10 out of 10 for me sorry I sweater is for me. Okay. Love it. 10 out of 10 for me. Sorry. I had to get it out. I was feeling it.

So it's a sweater, which I love as well. This style, this is my jam. So to have it with a Canadian geese, I love. It's giving Northern reflections for my Canadian folks. Okay.

Canadians, if you're listening, it's giving Northern reflections if you know you know so next we have the infamous pants the scarecrow pants the scarecrow pants that were discussed that jeff really wanted to we didn't make you wear those and we we didn't make you wear those just to be clear we dressed you okay like very adamant that he did not want to be associated with the scarecrow pan and then i love this shirt the more i look at it a gorilla shirt but the gorilla is wearing boxing gloves and is in a bit of a fighting stance like they're about to

you know sock it to another gorilla if they were to enter their territory i hope so i hope yeah the gorilla seems to be wearing pants and a bib perhaps i i think it's maybe more of like um like a a top uh like like a boxer would wear right the sort of like uh guinea tea beater for lack of a better term like that sort of it's a cami yeah tank top tank top and then like box it's a penny what do you see it under i mean maybe i think the arm is so girthy gorilla arm is bucking it yeah yeah okay toes are out though toes out yeah like not behind a paywall are out out you can't with this still that I've chosen

you can't really see the feet of the geese so at least the geese's feet are covered now I get to Jenny out about the middle article of clothing this is yours I am obsessed with these pants from the moment i laid on them it's like billy garcia and candace i fell in love with these pants it is so much like

a third grade production of the whiz and you're trying to find things like this is the scarecrow they got patches on the jeans it's trendy enough without you know having to make the eight-year-old feel like they're really wearing a costume i love the fact that drawing even more attention to it made it both better and worse uh that td then starts making excuses for him like you said jeff's like all right just just so you know listen we'll make you lose your vote but we're not gonna make you dress in those ugly ass pants like i love that that was the line for this man yeah we had nothing to do with this exactly we will not feed you but we would never ask you to wear that never have you maybe that's what you have to do all right you

can get an advantage but the risk is you have to wear these pants i i love it because it also reminds me of like laughing like i'm waiting for charles nelson riley to pop out on one of the panels and give a one-liner and then pop his way back in yeah that's fair incredible uh i love yeah like a storybook pant uh you know a pop-up book of pant all right I as exciting as the pants are they are probably my least favorite item of the three but overall I would buff the ensemble especially I just love the crewneck sweater and the shirt a lot so I'm gonna buff it I'm gonna buff the fits they're all they're all very memorable um articles of clothing so that is the assignment like teeny 10 out of 10 um i also yeah i just feel like you know i i i

can't do it but like i am always giving the side eye to jeans on Survivor. I don't, but I don't personally understand what anyone would choose to wear jeans. Like, I'll never forget watching Beast Mode Cowboy jump off of the boat into the water with jeans on and like a big buckle belt. Like being like, what, what would compel you to wear that for the marooning? But sure, I love that for you. At least these are like, these are memorable jeans.

So at least if you're going to be wearing wet, disgusting ass jeans on Survivor, they are memorable. So I will give that to Teenie, but I still don't ever understand why anyone would bring jeans on Survivor. Yeah. I'm also, I'm trying to remember

if Caleb actually was wearing the jeans in the challenge that he nearly died on as well. I live in my jeans, I'll die in those jeans. Imagine just like the worst heat and then you're like, ah, yes, this is the challenge to wear my jeans you know durable fabric you know i feel like i feel like you would these would be like dress up pants for tribal council you know like all right well i'm going i'm going out somewhere

for the evening let me put something presentable together yes these are my tribal jeans. Okay. How many outfits do they get? Well, nowadays, I think you're able to bring, you're able to bring, I think, like a few choices of clothing. I think I just get so fixated on like one thing I've seen on people. And I feel like I haven't seen the goose sweater on Teenie since like the first episode what I'm wondering is

looking at teenage two shirts and thinking back to even people like Omer obviously you can't wear like very specific brands on the show but are animals kind of public domain yes like if I have an animal on a shirt I'm pretty good to wear it so long as it's not like a kangaroo with a Nike swoosh on its head. Yeah, I think if it's not like a discernible brand, I think you're character. Right. So if you have like Mickey Mouse, maybe exactly. Yeah. So as long as you don't

see Bull Willie, that's public. Real mouse could be real could be a real to life Mickey Mouse. It's just a mouse with red pants okay let's talk about our next look and that is gabe's polo what what what a choice i don't i can't decide where gabe works but this is a uniform perry is that for is that a thing guys make up i don't know i don't know no yeah it okay i don't think it is but definitely like does he work at a hotel i don't know i don't know oh no no no no it's

absolutely that he works at the country club for the summer. I love high school musical, too, that he's like, gosh, I just try to make a few bucks so I can save my way for basketball camp. I got a clerk at the hotel front desk. I hope no shenanigans ensue this summer. He's got to go his own way, Mike. Yeah, exactly. He's got a bet on it. He got a gotta bet on it see if he can dance look it's I actually like it I think it's cute I think it was a bit of a surprise when he

came out wearing it it just felt like it didn't really fit his character you know because they bring you bring a set of clothes right and then the survivor production chooses right exactly like what you're gonna wear so and they usually try to separate those pants explicitly you don't like those pants you chose against our wishes right we explicitly told you

not to wear the pants do not bring things okay um so you know so like what was Gabe's sort of character that they were dressing him for when they decided that this polo needed to be one of the shirts that he would wear out on the island like that's what I keep thinking about I just wish that he was popping the collar um I wish that he was the layered polo shirt I wish he wore two polos and popped both colors. And the white one underneath. And then you roll the sleeves up. Yeah. I want, I want, listen, tribal council is dark. I want to feel like I'm walking into a Hollister or an Abercrombie and Fitch.

Like, that's what this is giving to me. It's giving like hot boy summer, like fuck boy, like not going to call you when we get to the fall. Like that's what this outfit is to me. I feel like he's got like it's not I don't know, some sort of like linen short. It's giving like country club F boy. Yeah, I mean, honestly, maybe I'm just thinking back to the whole Kyle limo driver metaphor, kind of giving ballet to me of like, make sure you don't scuff the Porsche, Harold.

Well, later on in the season, we might see the turntables, you know, maybe Kyle's the one telling Gabe what to do. Who knows? I would love to see the turntables as in he becomes a DJ. I will say this is nothing to do with the outfit, but the way you, you snapshot of Tiana's face and that second picture, she's going, damn,

where'd you get that one? Yeah. Which I mean, it's in reaction to him playing the idol, right? But out of context, but it's just like, oh, you look good. I might have to bump it for that reason.

Tiana's low-key vouching for it. We live. I love it. I mean, it's holding up well, too. You know? I think he only brings it up. I think he puts it on a hanger and hangs it on the shelter. It's his tribal look.

Yeah. His tribal look. Yeah, it on the shelter. Yeah. Speaking of tribal pants. Yeah. All right. Let's talk about our next look. So this is one that I actually hadn't noticed until I was going back through. I did.

This is okay. Sorry. This shirt. Jenny, you take it away. Describe this. What is, what even is this?

I don't think that we saw this shirt until this episode liana because i don't remember seeing it but when watching this this episode i was like okay kishan like i am obsessed with this very colorful um it's almost like like it looks like an abstract painting like the amount of different colors and like lines I can't even really tell from the picture what is happening but I love a loud button-up collar like short sleeve shirt oh my god it's my favorite thing um and it's just I because I love that he got this because it's not clearly red you know what i mean like this is like an ambiguous colored shirt because of all of the different colors

represented on it and and that's a tribal council pitch it's like we're not just lava we're not just gotta community my thing community exactly a lot about community in that like i'm just saying like is there something here the second most uh important thing after we did not tell teeny to wear those pants that was the first note and then community um i man he looks so good in this shirt he is is killing it. I love this look. I'm going to snuff it. Oh, my. Wow.

The betrayal. This is a me thing. I can't pay attention to what he's saying because I'm so distracted by the shirt. This is a Dan Flashes. Incredibly complicated. I don't want to know how much it costs the patterns and the colors they're vibrant and i love them but i'm trying to discern what this man is telling me about what where he's going to go in the boat all i can do is stare at the

thing so it's no fault to kishan it's much more of a me thing but that being said if i'm talking about it from my perspective it i i can't i can't see it if i need to take in what kishan is trying to tell me is this okay and this is where we get into can you use clothing as strategy because i feel like kishan is a doctor. He is a very smart man. He's got glasses, okay? We know how people feel about glasses. I think that this is what I call a party shirt, okay? Ooh. This is what we call party shirts in my household, okay?

And I think that this is a very slick move for him to kind of be like I'm I'm like a fun goofy guy look at my party shirt um and I think that it makes him kind of seem a little bit more like fun and but the flip side is it better to wear like very nondescript things where it's like you want to fly under the radar and not draw a lot of attention to you? And this shirt is drawing attention. I love this choice because it kind of gives him like, I'm here for the vibes, but does it make him too? Like he's very noticeable now.

These are a lot of, we've got lime green. We've got like, you know, like a coral color. We've got orange. Like there's, it's beautiful, but it's a lot.

The antithesis of camouflage. He's out there. Yeah. I just, I think he looks good. I think it's really good in the shirt i'm buffett he's serving he's serving i also might snuff it because is there an article of clothing that is so enviable that you actually want to vote that person out to try to acquire it. Right. Can I have your jacket? Can I have your multicolored geometric party shirt?

I think we're past that at this point. I don't think it's Keyshawn, can I have your party shirt? It's get Keyshawn to leave the party shirt behind. Yeah. And then go to tribal council and then vote him off. It's layered because you need him to feel so safe. We don't worry about people playing idols we need people to leave their party shirts back at camp so that you can acquire them

i mean i support that game play yeah if that's the motivation for voting someone out please do it i talk about pettiness i don't know i wanted a shirt why'd you vote Kishan on I don't know I wanted a shirt look good like a really nice shirt I you wouldn't tell me I wore it to tribal council exactly imagine wearing it to like final tribal council and he's there yeah after you voted him out penner style I want my shirt back and you're just like hey this is actually a sign of respect because I saw that shirt and I said that's a winning shirt that's a shirt you wear to final tribal council and ask people to give you a million dollars and I said I can't let him do it had to be me or what you do you say oh my god Keisha I'm so sorry and you say you see how good my social

game is I would give him the shirt off my back because that's how good our relationship is it is his shirt but i would give it back to him the shirt i stole the stolen goods i'm a i'm a pennant man oh my gosh all right the next piece of clothing that we're going to talk about so this one all right it's i think different sweaters they have to be different sweaters yeah because both andy and annika have these big bulky off white colored sweaters i felt thematically like these two things could, could go together.

Jenny, is this what you were talking about when you were looking at Andy's fit? Is it the sweater? Is it the other white? No, it was like white pants and like the, like his, his maroon outfit where he's like in full white.

And I'm like, this is just a disaster waiting to happen. Especially knowing that they're going to do the baptism by mud, that those things are not going to stay white for long. Yeah. Okay. So I would say like Anika's looks more of like a, like cashmere,

like thinner knit type. Whereas like with Andy, this is this, I don't know if it, you can call that a cable knit, but it's like cable knit-esque. It's a little chunkier. I mean, they're probably both warm at night.

Love that for them. I'm going to, I will snuff Annika at least, because there is one problem with hers. Static electricity. Now there are, listen, you can target people for any old reason. If Anika tries to walk up to you and you get a little from her, because she's just been rolling around in her sweater all night trying to get some sleep, like, I'm hungry.

I'm tired. I, you know, I feel like I'm at my wits end mentally emotionally physically and when you walk up to me you give me a little shock three strikes and you're out that's it i'm going after you but could you use it to start a fire though there's some utility to the electricity generated then what you do is you say Annika, why don't you leave behind your static electricity sweater? Can I have your static electricity sweater, please? Mr. Flint?

Yeah. Yeah, who needs Mr. Flint when you've got Annika's sweater? That's what you gotta give up. Goodbye, Mrs. Sweater. Someone just like puts that we're just doing whatever we want on the parchment we vote people out at this point where it's just like i actually don't know her name i just wrote mrs sweater on yeah bye bye mrs sweater i mean rome did attempt to draw an entire seventh of the world on a parchment so no one spelled Asia's name

right but I don't know what Keisha was going for I mean they had the double A wait no there's a double A what is he doing he was like I'm gonna do something it's like it's he's like it's Asia

but it's different so he's like I'm doing double A like the double A that you would get at Aaron. Oh, maybe. Is that what he was going for? Asia. I will buff Andy because this is so brilliant on his part to choose this fighter. Because the first thing that comes to mind,

I don't know about the two of you, for me, is Knives Out. You know? Oh! I'm thinking about, what's his name? Chris Evans? The character that he plays. Spoiler alert for Knives Out. When the character's first introduced,

he's meant to be seen as like an ally to the protagonist, right? A friend to assist in the investigation only turn out that he is the murderer that he is the culprit and i think that andy could easily present that right he has been for a bit as like yeah you can work with him what am i gonna do you know i'm losing be advantages. I just foam at the mouth on the mat. But make no mistake. This guy is a killer. And the sweater is here to prove it.

Okay. Wow. I mean, I love, I love that as an analogy. I, here's the thing. As, as a fan of Andy, as someone who absolutely adores him I I have met him he's seriously one of the nicest people um I feel like I I feel like I've known him a long time and I I truly adore him I want that first episode was so hard but I felt like there is going to be an arc there is going to be a really great story for Andy and I love that we can say the sweater is like part of it

where it's like it makes him look so approachable like and comforting um but yeah there's something there's something like diabolical about it my thought was you could with andy is the the yarn thread seems large enough if you could get a loose thread and maybe craft something else i mean make a pink idol yeah yeah you know what you could do actually if he decides to leave a bit of wear advantage sitting there again tie a little thread around it and then unravel it all the way back to camp and if someone tries to take it it'll be a little tug tug

on the line and then you fish them in that's how you fish them in that's so good that's so good yeah yeah i just i feel like the amount of crafts that could become possible from the sweater it's endless the limit does not exist i think i would it's not it's but you know i love that here's the thing i i don't think i would want to wear yellow i don't think i look good in yellow so i I love that he's like, it's beige. It's oatmeal.

And it works. Yeah. Don't let me go into an entire monologue about how you look good in yellow. I truly it's not yellow and orange. You won't be seeing me in yellow or orange. I love yellow. I love a lemon. I love an orange.

I love some citrus, but I won't be wearing it. I like them, but I snuff them for a survivor. I just feel like they're going to get damp and then they're never really going to dry. And then I'm just going to be like slightly wet. Yeah. So I personally, but at home, I would take it. Do we know like much about the time of year and whether it's super cold at night

like sometimes is is having the sweater and like being you know like offering it to the person that's really cold those things matter yeah I'm like we, we know that those little like social graces of comforting people in human moments make a difference to people. Like I, Andy is just such a sweetie pie that I could see like him offering his lovely warm cable knit sweater. As long as he's not wearing it in the water, like Asia with her socks. Imagine navigating the balance beam with the sweater on. Oh my God. That's when you sink to the bottom. It's wearing that sweater. socks um imagine navigating the balance beam with the sweater on oh my god you're just saying that's when you sink to the bottom it's wearing that sweater um i just think that like you could use it as a tool being like i brought this great sweater let me keep you warm you can wear it

tonight um and that that those are just little things that mean things to people yeah and well i mean i think you know they did film in like may and june which was technically because it's the southern hemisphere it would have been getting closer to winter but that being said uh no matter what it gets cold at night there especially when you are right near the water so yeah a lot of people talk about finding something to keep them warm at night no matter what time of year they play in yeah cable net sweater the next series of items that we're going to talk about is rom's overall look oh my gosh uh we have the the paddington bear look yeah some people are saying some people are saying saying. I said Blossom, but I do like Paddington Bears.

I think specifically when he had the sweatshirt tied around the waist, it was very Blossom to me. Yes. Well, that's so, yeah. So he has it tied around the waist in his tribal council look, but I also wanted to get some closeups of the sweater itself. It's such a gamer sweater. I don't like.

I hate it. Right. Like a 15 don't like i hate it right like a 15 year old boy is wearing yes you know what i mean it's giving like x co or like uh i it's good i i'm i feel like it's from the mall in like 2003 and like yes it's very very gamer guy uh the that's like red camo yeah well it's not really it's just more like a red pattern but i think it's trying to be camo like half camo which makes it's like if you're camo for like fire like soot and fire if you're around fire it's like oh i can't see rome it's yeah the one thing when you're in a fire you don't want to be seen really detection is the one thing you want to seek out the least in a fire well what if you're making final four fire and you they'll they'll never see you coming yeah they'll be like oh roll wins oh wait a minute

that was just a sweater yeah oh my god and the other person stops like they lose they're like oh my god look at the flames right beside me rome's like i can make fire guys and he just lays down in the pit that's why i could do it so quick I am more so mystified by the lightning tank top yeah well you talk about gamer this to me is like I just bought the game and I don't have enough money to spend on acquiring all of these random wardrobe choices so like I'll get what I'm given and this is it it's so generic like it seriously seems a screen printed pattern just on a tank top for him like i don't think he legitimately bought this in a store hmm now if him and annika were to get together think about the sparks the electricity

flying between the two of them maybe that's what happened on the journey. Maybe. Yes. Yeah. I, I, I, I almost like, obviously my gut inclination was, well, obviously I'm going to snuff this, but it's almost so bad that it's good now. It's iconic. Yeah. Yes, exactly. Especially the hat. It's the hat. The way he's folded it up is really doing it for me.

Oh yeah. I love it. The hat, I'm buffing for sure um because the way that it's yeah like you said the way that it's folded up like it's not a bucket hat this is like more than a bucket hat it's and and he's folded it up I love hats on especially on survivor um i think that it is actually a smart item to bring with you but the way that he's wearing it is so funny to me like it is so it's so hilarious i like the tank top it's like camo but like edgy it's like because it's kind of got that same sort of camo-esque pattern okay he's definitely been in a lightning storm.

We would not be able to pick him out anywhere. If they need to make lightning at the final four, he's ready. I hate the red camo hoodie, though. I am snuffing that to death. I'm so sorry, Rome, but no, I hate it. I'm sorry. It's also like, it looks like it's short. You know what I mean? Like,'s also like, it looks like it's short. You know what I mean?

I don't know. What does he have in that little Kanga pouch? What's he hiding? It's a bag of tricks. Yeah. I'm sure it's warm and comfy, but I just the pattern is it's triggering to me.

I would love a hoodie out there. Oh my god. It would love a hoodie out there. Oh my god, it would be so it is like really a smart choice to have a hoodie. I want a hoodie with detachable sleeves. Of course you would. I could be like Bill Belichick. I'm ready for this challenge. I'm ready for the swim. Can you wear tearaway pants too?

Oh, I bring stripper pants out there like nobody's going to. Stripper pants? Is that what you guys call them? Yeah, tearaway pants, stripper pants. that what you guys call them yeah tear away pants stripper pants i just call them tear away and what other instance would you want to tear away your pants when you are getting ready for a track meet and it's time to go oh yeah what am i superman like do i have to go jump into the middle of crime and not take two minutes to change my pants no what is the reason for pants i do erotic playing sports and have wearing pants and then you just rip them off and it isn't very satisfying it's like business time it's like oh i'm gonna run now

when you're like survivors ready you're like yeah yeah honestly why haven't there been more people on survivor with tearaway pants i mean why if only jeff would actually dress them maybe that might be something i mean it is survivor is a family show so jeff might expressly ask them not to wear tearaway tearaway please no tearaway and like you don't have to get branded ones they're again in the early 2000s wear one with like an ostrich on it you can just get like the nondescript tearaway pants okay well let's move on to our last. All right.

So we've made the jokes about where's Genevieve? Who's Genevieve? She's got a little bit of a purple edit. And it was no surprise to me that she has a multiple red and white stripe shirts. Who else wears red? Wow. Wow. Where's freaking waldo i think this is some of your best work thank you very much the fact that she not only has one but two and look maybe on this far left shirt it could be slightly pink i don't care it's essentially a red and white striped shirt it that's all I and I what's so funny is I was even on Genevieve watch but I didn't spot the connection until I put two and two together she is our where's Waldo of this is strategy and this is what I was saying earlier like do like how do you choose clothing strategically and i wasn't even think i was thinking like bland colors that don't

pop or whatever i did not even think of dress like waldo yes that's basically the next best thing to dressing we talk about oh so-and-so's dressing in camouflage no this is human camouflage this is the most nondescript person in existence you want to dress up like them that's why we don't know she's there she's so hard to spot i love that she has the round glasses like waldo as well like the whole look is waldo chic uh upset i love it but you see what waldo's wearing wearing some jeans yeah yeah i would not fly on survivor not just the sheet but she took that and she said i'll wear a soft pant i'll wear a dark soft pant um good enough she also she puts her hair up in a bun Waldo has a hat with a little poof on top I'm just saying the yeah what kind of what kind of hat is that makes Waldo look like an asshole

no it's like a like a winter beanie kind of hat yeah right that's like so without without the pom-pom if that hat were black that's your classic f-boy f-boy waldo like the the rolled black you might not be able to find me but i can i can find something on you lickety split i i honestly you dress

waldo in like the f-boy style i'm envisioning holy shit i'm trying to find him is'm looking for him where is waldo oh let's look this up absolutely like gas lighter waldo you know like like mostly bad boyfriend waldo um sexy man where is he he ghosted you i. All right, well, this is beauties in the eye of the beholder, but these are objectively ugly. Let's see. I'll share my screen

and see if I can get some. I need to see this, because I'm just getting a lot of sexy ladies dressed as Waldo. Well, I don't know what my algorithm is. That's going to be a top Halloween costume this year. Sexy Waldo. Sexy waldo yeah all right

so i have my costume now here we go no one else wants it i'm taking it exactly all right this is sexy man waldo and like i don't know would you do this no i don't know if i did it looks like an old-timey criminal yeah like I don't know if I'd do this. He looks like an old-timey criminal. Yeah. Like, I don't know if I'd do this. And he's wearing jades. Wait, what did you Google? Sexy man Waldo? Sexy man Waldo. Sexy man Waldo.

Sexy man Waldo. I'm so scared of Waldo. Okay, well now we're talking. Oh, sexy Waldo. Okay, DeviantArt. DeviantArt is gonna always bring you that sexy. I don't know why they decided to show me the ass. okay deviant art deviant art is gonna always bring you that sex I don't know why they decided to show me the ass

don't show me I gotta see you from the back oh I hate to see you leave but I love to watch you walk the walk away with that awkward arms yeah his arms akimbo

like what oh my gosh here's a good one oh my gosh it's like maskworld.com oh it's a suit one of those morph suits

that's creepy there's a lot of shots of all those back brown eyed Adrian Waldo's back. Brown-eyed Adrian Waldo. There he is. I don't know about that.

Oh, boy. Come on, Mike. Oh, here's the okay, great. Here's how you can do the costume. Yeah, copy his, steal my look. Yes. Waldo is just a hamster, okay? This is what Genevieve saw before she went on the island

oh oh sexy time where's Waldo seduction gif wow imagine where would you use this what's the instance where you would use this well now in our group chat getting a lot of sexy waldo when you're looking

for something it's just like i'm right here girl yeah yeah all right wow i mean liana incredible observation on your thank you yes beautiful yes and we have to buy all of it just because it's so genius it's so genius it's so smart it's next level we weren't even thinking about it I can't believe it took me three episodes to notice but now we all know yeah that's how we know it works it's never good at those books anyway yeah but then it's gonna be like the where's Waldo books where I don't know why I got really thrown into the deep end initially where like there are various books in the Waldo series and there was one where it's like just all pages of red and white stripes and so that might be the case on Survivor where people are listening to this 49 might be an influx on a red tribe of red and white striped shirts and then it actually

will become a bit of a problem yeah yeah yep and then how do you pick pick the real one out and then becomes quite challenging i get it they they need to implement something like that for a challenge though like a true like needle in the haystack type challenge would be really fun i don't know how you do it but i think it's a fun Genevieve under a stack a Waldo and a haystack put her in with a bunch of the dream team they're all yes exactly like

Waldo yeah no no grab a bunch of other like white women who are brunette and dress them all in the same outfit and be like okay can you tell who's your tribe member and like partially blindfolded or it's like you have like one like if you have like an eye patch just one eye just one eye to find the genevieve

i don't know you have to be able to like let them see but you want to like challenge them a little bit all right well what great ideas we have here such great ideas liana fantastic as usual we are not going to cast a blind eye to the charity that you have highlighted this week what do you have on deck for us and the listeners me yeah you like oh i thought you said Liana. I was like, I thought it was me, but then you were, anyway, sorry. I've mentioned this before. It's an organization that is near and dear to my heart. It is the International Association for Premenstrual Disorders, IAPMD.org. IAPMD.org. If you are a menstruating person and you find that you get extremely depressed or are having a really hard time like two weeks before your period or someone you love is going through that,

you will learn a lot of things through this organization. It has been a lifesaver for me. So even if you're not able to uh to donate uh even just reading about some of this stuff i think that a lot of people have found uh a lot of answers myself included um so i always like to shout them out iapmd.org all right jenny thank you so much as per usual such a delight having you on of course under sad circumstances but like you forecasted i think we were able to make some lightness out of all of

this and be able to uh at least uh talk about several emergent strategies involving survivor clothing so while it may not have helped asia if our friends decide to go on future survivor seasons, now they have a bunch. No. Well, if you have to, there'd be a bunch of wardrobe based tactics that you can implement. That is true. And if if I can offer something, I'm glad it could be that. No, this was really, really fun. I was I was really sad that this this had to be the the time that we got to do this but it you know

it made me feel so much better I really feel like it was cathartic to be able to find some levity and laugh and laugh and spend time with you guys um thank you for always letting me come and be silly with you and uh talk too much um I appreciate you both so much. So it was a good time. I love the B&B. I'm so grateful for the B&B's existence in the survivor world because even when things get a little dark and sad, we always have the B&B to go to. Listen, be silly and talk too much

are basically like our two mottos at this point. What would you like to plug, Jenny? Anything you want to plug for the listeners out there? So in September, I took a little uh podcast podcasting yadis because my my day job was just so busy but i'm back i'm back on the horse uh so coming this this week uh house of villains season two oh i'm coming back to e we will be covering it uh i believe that rob chapelle and i will be doing like kind of a a small cast preview um pre-season podcast that should be hitting your podcast feeds uh within the next few days so look out for that i believe the premiere is on october 9th um so so stay tuned for coverage of that i'm really excited uh the first winner of survivor

richard hatch is on uh house of villains season two believe it or not um and a lot of other interesting characters so it should be a great time um if you haven't uh checked out house of villains season one there's time to binge it before the next season i don't know that the lore will be that important, but it might be because we are a returning person. So yeah, so that's what's coming up. And you can follow me on social media at Jenny Autumn. That is where I'll plug anything else that's going on.

And again, thanks for being nice and being my friends and I love you. Oh, we love you too. Liana, what would you like to plug? Well, you can catch me doing the Masked Singer wrap up with Pouya. We're chugging along on the season. So far, so good.

I also joined Pouya on the 90 Day Fiancé podcast. If you love personal drama, boy, do I have a show for you. It is chocked full. This season is wackadoo. One of the main plot points has to do with gonorrhea i won't spoil it but very exciting oh great plug hey if you're interested in the most excited you'll be about gonorrhea oh boy yes it is yes it is uh and then i am going to be doing my first Big Brother podcast of the season.

Wow. The recap of the recap. Oh, the most important one. Have you watched any of it? Are you just coming in for the first time and taking information in through that episode? I would love that. Maybe. Okay.

Maybe. I may have missed a couple episodes. I'm really hoping they covered that. Well, that's the episode for you it's the recap it's what i need exactly yeah yeah exactly i'm so ready to relive crazy eyes and all of that uh throughout the entire season so that will be this friday's episode of big brother all right uh and so you can check out everything for liana at liana rjp you can follow me at a mike bloom type of course i had the pleasure of talking with Asia

about everything. It was a really nice chat. It always is. And she gives plenty of her perspective as well as to why she turned down the Sol idea. Again, maybe why she didn't want to split 2-2-2. Of course, her opinions on Rome. All of that jazz. So check that out

over at Parade.com as well as doing Exit Press for Big Brother, for The Challenge, for The Circle, which just all of that jazz so check that out over at parade.com as well as doing exit press for uh sir for big brother for the challenge uh for the circle which just finished i did a little bit of the mass singer as well which actually i'll post about this on social media but i have a very fun story about this that i haven't shared to anybody so i interviewed spoiler alert event nicole brown got eliminated and i i decided to shoot my shot i said like oh mike you're married well okay well listen uh angela if you're out there don't worry babe

don't worry i'm talking about you all the time i'm talking about you all the time talking about you well every day for those who may remember we did a summer of survivor podcast where we did a brand steal of a celebrity edition of survivor an event nicole brown was on it and so i'd said like okay this is very much off the beaten path but i cover survivor i talk about survivor and we over the summer we did this celebrity survivor and she interrupts me and she goes oh i, I won. And I was like, yeah, how do you know? And someone had sent her the brand steal on Twitter and she had watched it all. Amazing.

Oh my God. And she's like, that was you? She's like, you are so much weirder than I thought. Exactly. You validated any pretense I had by watching it. She's like, I didn't understand what was happening, but I'm grateful that I was able to live out my dream without actually getting to do it so yeah absolutely wild thing I thought I was going to come in with a bit of a blind side and she blindsided me so I'll have

that interview up soon that's great I can't wait yeah that's that's amazing I also I love the idea the pretense that she's coming in thinking that oh I'm going to talk to a respected journalist who's going to interview me and it's like oh it's that guy who did that weird simulation thing yeah at least with the survivor community they they know what they're getting in for like all these celebrities they don't know what nonsense they have i love the idea that you were just like ah yes i'm going to bring up this very strange like simulation that they were a part of that i ran um and that the fact that that wasn't even news that's the thing i don't know maybe i felt something i was like i have a feeling she either will understand it or maybe she's watched it already and dedicated three

hours of her life so i'll post that clip on, on Twitter, maybe. And then of course, on the scripted side of things, doing the penguin, doing loss, doing TV for real. Last thing I will mention as well is I had the pleasure of getting to attend to the survivor beast drop event in Brooklyn on Saturday. And I just want to give a special thanks to anyone who came and introduced themselves to me.

I, it was a really, really fun day. There was a whole smattering of challenges there. You can check it out on the RJP Instagram, where i talked with a bunch of former players got to participate in some challenges alongside some of them some went well some maybe not so much not a great track record with rjp podcasters as of late when it comes to challenges uh but it was such a great time special thanks to cbs for for having all of us out there and for putting that event together

it was such a great time and i also can't wait to see everybody in uh just a week and change time too in new york city but first we have another episode to watch so leon and i will be back next weekend covering episode four very interesting to see where we move forward from here everyone's been to tribal council doesn't look like we're swapping looks like we're sticking with these tribes through all five pre-merge votes and so like we talked about fractures are developing with these interpersonal tips and sometimes those develop into like actual strategic schisms uh so we shall see if that manifests uh tbd guest next week but no matter what it'll sure be a lot of fun to talk it all through thank you all so much for listening. Special thanks to the entire team at RJP behind the scenes for packaging this

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