RHAP: We Know Survivor - Survivor 47 B&B Ep 4 w/ Beth Dixon

Episode Date: October 13, 2024

With a new Survivor season upon us, it’s time for Mike Bloom and Liana Boraas to re-open the RHAP B&B! On the B&B, Mike and Liana are inspired by the lighter side of Survivor, featuring a series of segments and games based on what’s happening on Survivor that week. Mike and Liana are joined by Beth Dixon for Episode 4!

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And if that all sounds cool, I can tell you the name. It's the R-H-A-P B&B. You can stay for free. for free. Hi everybody and welcome back to the RHAP B&B for week four of Survivor 47. My name is Mike Bloom and some are heralding it as one of the best pre-merge episodes of the new era. We have so much to get into when a jar of red paint splatters across the jungle and that is far from the messiest thing to happen in this episode you know you're in for a good time and hopefully even more so here on the bnb of course i am not alone i'm joined by someone who basically prognosticated the uh genevieve coming out party leona boris. Mike, I genuinely couldn't believe it.

We talked about her last week being our Where's Waldo. We found her. We got him. We got him. Waldo jumped to the front of our screen and had probably the biggest impact on a single episode that we've seen in this season so far. This was wild.

I loved it. Yes, and I'm going to love it even more getting to talk through all of this with somebody who is currently talking Dragula. So she would be more than happy to see Sue splattered in blood. It would just be called a runway aesthetic, right, Beth Dixon?

Absolutely. You know, the bullies maybe would call it out for just a little basic at this point. But you know what? What else does she have to work with? She's in the middle of the jungle. So we give her a pass. Just the fact that everybody was fooled and thought that, man, this older woman just is falling all over the place.

She's 45, please. I know. I said older, not old. There's a difference. But 45-year-old woman. woman god willing god willing with more years left which like by the way if a 45 year old woman showed up to you with cuts and bruises i would also be very concerned like what is happening you're not that old well especially because and that's what makes the scene even more comical. And I feel like, understandably, it gets overwritten by all the gloriousness that happened on Lavo.

But, like, just having to dissect this scene. Sue's initial excuse is, oh, I was playing with the machete. And that's how I cut myself. Then it turns into, I bit my tongue. And, like, there's no, the mouth isn't the problem sue the problem was there was a skosh here there was some in her hair there was some in her hands i mean we all watch big brother 20 like we know what happens when someone gets so angry they bite their tongue bailey was not caring she was not sopping in blood that it was pouring all over her appendages sue is somehow offering

two explanations and no explanation at the same time oh so sketchy i'm also the person that again bringing it back to just like how would beth respond for herself in that moment i would absolutely be like was she washing herself in her drinking water that's really gross I don't want her blood in there I mean that's what I'm thinking I'm not sitting there being like you know because she's washing over the and we think it's blood

and then I'm gonna be like that's really concerning what's even more concerning is now I have to drink your blood I don't like that this isn't Dragula maybe there's one particular person that's like, oh no, oh blood is in the water? Oh no! I guess I'll have extra helpings.

Then he went over to Lavo. We have five votes today. One, two, ah, ah, ah, three, four, ah, ah, ah. So stupid. We need to know what we do in the shadows version of survivor yeah i mean listen if we go with like the twilight version of vampires where like they

don't die in the sunlight they just sparkle uh-huh i don't think it'd do pretty well well and i mean this is something that we talk about and shannon is a big proponent of this that sparkly people do well on survivor so maybe all of our winners they were vampires they're sparkly people yeah i mean it'd be really bad for sue because he's like oh i bit my tongue he's like good sue is just devoured by the vampire at the sight of perhaps blood on her. And then Edward has to leave her for like a long time. And it's a whole thing. And then wolves become her friend. Wait,

I lost the plot. That sounds familiar. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, look, just to talk more about the whole Sue situation as Sue sees it. I just,

if you, okay. So first of all, she thinks she's done a good job, right? Cause you kind of hear her be like, okay, I think I got it all off. And so she's not really preparing probably for the live, because as soon as you see this gallon of red paint, just splatter all over the jungle, of course, you're just like, that is my priority. I have to cover up this massive thing of paint. So you're having like thought through, okay, if I have some on me, what am I going to do? Like, what's my contingency plan? So then when she's initially confronted by Tiana, of course, she just sort of panics and says anything seemingly that pops into her head. But I was, it still didn't feel like she had really

covered all the paint. Like if they had looked around i wonder if if caroline and and and tiana would have seen more of the red blood paints well and i feel like if you do like if you clean it off yourself that's such an easy out right you're like oh my god what animal got slaughtered in the middle of the night why didn't i hear this or if you somehow find something you're like look what i brought back like not don't go full scoop because it has a different context in 2024 but like bring home a quote-unquote fresh kill for your tribes like uh don't go in there there's a bit of a crime scene over there in the jungle it i mean she fully did because she was also trying to appear normal while clearly her mind is racing she ended up saying things

almost with a blank face which does not how like i literally was if i would come up i would have been tiana being like she just killed one of the other tribe like who's not here who was yeah getting your first look at the new lavo tribe asia voted out and rome murdered by sue in cold blood in the middle of the jungle how did she get here that counts as a medivac right i mean i think saul would have been like uh a little bit strangers on a train of like sue you kill rome and i'll kill who your enemy is yes i love the idea that protection doesn't kick Sue off for murdering another contestant. It's not in the rules.

Technically, it's not in the rules. I will say also, people are understandably lampooning a little bit of Sue lying that she's 45 years old. But what I would say is when you are out there on survivor you have a million other things that you can be paranoid about somebody lying about like the two things that i would not necessarily second guess immediately would be somebody's age and like somebody's marital status or kids and certainly there have been people who have lied about those things in the past but it just feels like such a fruitless endeavor to be like sammy from season 43 i don't

think you're really 22 i think you might be 19 years old why are you dedicating precious caloric brain space to thinking through doing the math on something that's ultimately not going to bear out. I want you to know that that is literally all my brain does is process that information as a day to day. And it's called anxiety. Well, I think like I understand and ultimately the end of the day. OK, so what? So she's 59. She's not saying she's the age she is. Who cares? Right. It's not like she's, I mean, unless she's going to get to the end of the game in her final tribal council speech and be like, guess what?

I'm 80. And you're like, what? Actually, that's a great, she should overshoot. I'm actually 94 years old. I'm Jeff's mom. You're like, what? I think that'd be so bold. I would love for somebody to come on the show in that final tribal.

If Sue makes it all the way and Jeff has to kind of sit there and not commentate. Right. And she's just like, you want, Oh, y'all wanted a twist. Hey, come on. I'm Jeff's mom. Let's get twisted. it would have been amazing let me take that and modify it a bit because while i do agree there is the nepo baby argument or nepo parent like that could be something that precludes you instead what you do is let's say um okay let's

say like uh kyle gets voted off next if i'm sue i make to the final tribal council and i say the hardest decision i had to make this game is when i voted my son kyle out in episode five yes it was a secret blood versus water twist you all didn't know about i had to play the game with my child and i voted him all off to protect you and show how much blood I'm willing to shed in this game. And actually, I murdered him. And that's why- Also, I murdered my son because that's how much I love Survivor.

I need a million dollars for my court case from when I get home. So if you could help me fund this, it'd be great. Oh my gosh. So, okay, all right right so all like memes aside genuinely though if you're out there lying about their age i think fundamentally it doesn't matter right i think the reason why you might care is because what does this say about the person who i'm talking to right if this is a person is going to put energy into lying about their age

or whatever the case may be, is this someone who's also going to be putting in a lot of energy to just lying in general? And that could be valuable to know. So like, I understand from that perspective, why it could matter that someone is lying about their age, but fundamentally, I think it just doesn't. And also, you know, you'll you'll look at all the other data. They are so covered in blood, making up some weird excuse. Right. Like that, to me, probably matters more ultimately. So to me, I don't really care. I'm more interested in the blood piece than the age piece. You know what I mean? what you guys would have done if you had encountered uh you know an idol in a jar of paint that falls from the sky when you're looking for things essentially what would you have done in that situation first thing i would have done is try to pick it up with something that wasn't my

hands what ideas my my thought yeah my thought process was to try to not touch the paint and just cover it with sand like bury the idol yes exactly and wait for the paint to dry then come back and get it if you can because the wet paint is really the problem but i mean the issue so she's mixing it all together like mixing the sand with the paint i think you need to try like cold stone yes exactly with the little like so i think you gotta love it size no he got voted out in episode one oh dang that's great that's a good one you gotta keep the paint splatter as not spread as possible. Right. So like once it's already splattered, I mean, cause there's no way, how is she supposed to know? Right.

That like paint was going to come crashing down from the sky. Right. So you just got to try to keep the paint splatter. I think as condensed as possible and then just try to go get sand and like cover it up. But I mean, this was awful. If I was on survivor and I was playing and this happened to me, I'd be like, are you freaking kidding me? Are you, Jeff? I have a complaint for the manager

because it's one thing to have to go and do a series of things, but like a massive, that was so much pain. That was so much pain. I mean, literally you are going to get caught red-handed. I just don't see a universe where someone actually manages to pull this off. I'm also just dying laughing that it took a long time and we could feel it

come in that fat line of, I hope I don't get caught red handed. And I was like, come on, just get it out. We know what's happening. We know what's going to happen, but I thought it was great. I loved this as a twist because if we're going to play with all different kinds of beware advantages why not have one that is not necessarily like hey you lose your vote until x amount of time hey we are literally going to give your tribe all this circumstantial evidence to say something's funky with sue well that's the thing yeah it's a beware advantage beware advantage is i think as a conceit yes there's the losing your

vote aspect but more so the beware is you're going to get caught doing sketchy shit yeah whether it's saying something weird at the mat whether it's running around with a machete trying to measure the paces of the tree mail box whether it's i mean drea uh is the sort of progenitor of like sticking her hand in the jar and getting covered in pain. The thing is, yes, I absolutely get the on the nose perspective of being caught red handed. It did feel a little weird that it was on the blue tribe. That's but I think that's literally why they did it. It was I think they literally said we're going to do red so that we can have somebody say that they're going to get caught red handed.

do red so that we can have somebody say that they're going to get caught red handed. Um, I just, I, and it's also interesting, like I'm, so I'm with you, Liana about, you know, let, let it all dry and all that kind of stuff. But I don't think I'm smart enough in the moment to remember that. I, I think that I would go the Mike Bloom approach of like, let me see if I could grab something without hands. And if I, if I'm there for a while and I'm looking around and I haven't seen anybody yet, there's a part of me that's like, once I can identify wherever this idol is, I'm literally going to take it like with a couple of sticks or something, throw those sticks, throw the idol somewhere very far away where I separate from this spot, cover everything else up. And then, um, just see if there's like a possibility for me to be like, Oh my gosh, I stepped in something weird or

whatever. And then like, because eventually people are going to be like dead animal carcass or something. If, cause I'm sure that like, I'm sure like her feet or shoes or whatever, probably were, were covered in it at that point. The other thing I was thinking was like, I mean, it looks like it fell right on a walking path of like where they normally walk. So I don't know if you have time to like really like wait around. There's a part of me that if she's going to stick with the machete story, she should go around and just have like been whacking a whole bunch of stuff afterwards. And then been like, I just was whacking like different vines to see if something happened. And then this jar of paint just like fell down.

What do you guys think this means? And like just been like gone back over because that makes a little bit more sense than just I was playing with the machete. But I I bit my tongue and there's also all this stuff happening. But what's happening? Well, I say you're going to do that. Go the full mile here. Let's go. Cover yourself in paint and lay down in the mess

and wait for them to find you. Are you pretending to be dead? Yes! Like, I was attacked. I really love this. i fell from the tree well i guess like it's using production too much of the strategy because you have to be inevitably taken to med to you have to tell like dr will like just pretend that like it's an it's a it's a non-lethal cut don't say that it's red paint please i'm working on something here

yeah or you're like uh okay panic i guess i just have to like stab myself with the machete and then you sit there and you're like and the production's like stop wait no i'm coming out of the trees i'm just imagining sue being like this is what it takes yeah yeah yeah go go like a full katniss and pita of like let's see how far they'll take this now i'll show you beware i would like just take a look at the camera that's clearly right next to you and just look at it and be like going full hunger games oh gosh look like we say all these things she's gonna get caught like you just panic at that moment who's prepared for a bucket of red paint to fall from the sky it's just it

just genuinely feels like you're there's no way you're gonna get away with this there's absolutely zero way you're gonna get away with this my curious question though is is this gonna be the same on lavo because we know that they r Rome played the idol. So we know that there's potentially another idol out there, similar to on Chukwu. So did they get red paint? Did they get blue paint? Did they get yellow paint? Oh,

yellow paint would be great. Cause it's like, God, I peed all over my head. Yeah. And I am dehydrated. Oh, my bouillon QP.

Shout out to Owen. Yeah. I don't think it's going be the same thing i mean remember like rome had to do the invisible ink wash the thing off the log the other two tribes didn't necessarily need to do that so it might be something similar like i don't think it will be as visibly flashy as the red paint i mean that's the other thing is that like it's gonna happen on lavo uh inevitably i guess you know as we sort of segue from the red paint to the red tribe you know it's all just gonna immediately take off into the jungle room be damned and like start hunting now would roam

be someone to hunt for it knowing how much he was on the chopping block i would imagine they're gonna throw something else in that well it won't leave them covered in paint will absolutely draw a spotlight onto them as looking for an idol oh my god wait was this just the last part of the box remember how blue oh yeah no nobody nobody went for the last stage of the box, right? Yeah. So maybe what they did is they just they just kept another part of the box. What if the lava one is you have to do part three, like the other two parts? I will say you got in the box.

The two one, I guess they would have put the key in there because there was the idol that was in the jar. And remember that for the box, the idol was like in the box. You just kept putting it through the glory hole to, to like, well, yeah. I mean, yes. No, no, no. So I'm not saying that like, you're going to get the box, but like, it could be essentially whatever the mechanic was for getting that set last piece of the box.

Like that's what's going to be repeated because otherwise they have to come up with a ton of stuff for the idols. And I would imagine not wanting to, you know, like you want to kind of bank some of those, you't have to like use them all so that that'll be interesting um if it is even more because it's almost like increasing levels of difficulty in order to increase the power of the idol so to me the red paint that's top tier difficulty when it comes to getting something so maybe what we're going to see on lavo and if god ever goes and plays the idol then we could see something that's, that's quite difficult, but, but yeah,

anyway. Okay. I just think that it's interesting though. Cause I do think that these last two seasons before the next like decade of seasons or a 10 season start normally is when they start playing around with what are some of the mechanics going to be of, you know, the big, you know, for this case, Survivor 50. Right. So you start seeing, OK, so we had Edge of Extinction played with two seasons before. Fire token. Fire tokens. Like, yes.

And like all these different. I don't know why I said celebrate. It's fire token. We love fire tokens. So much fun um but they they played around with this idea of like okay what do we do with ghost island and like replaying things but could we do them in different ways like I kind of just feel like they play with mechanics for a few seasons before they film those last two and using the one before you know 40 they played a little bit with

the idol people I guess and just how many idols 40, they played a little bit with the idle people, I guess. And just how many idols can we throw into a game was essentially the game there. So I kind of wonder, are some of these mechanics going to be things that if they do bring a whole bunch of old school or pre new era people back for 50 who have been widely criticizing how much easier it is to play this game? I think that there's a part of it that they're like, oh, you think it's fun and hard? OK, let's see how you handle it when you have to have red paint on your hands and cover it up in the woods in the middle of a walking trail. So there's a part of me that's like, I wonder if they're testing some of this out for returning players. Ah, yeah, that's interesting to be like, what is it? Because I think there's a lot of debate as to what season 50 will look like i'm sure production themselves are having it so

yeah i think they're really pushing you know what a beware advantage truly behold we might be the only survivor podcast that only on rhap but in existence to spend the first 20 minutes not talking about this kishan vote i mean we need to because good god this was so much fun i mean yes there is like in a perfect perfect world we wouldn't have the whole like teeny has to lose their vote on the journey basically but there was so much here that left me so interested and invigorated the fact that there were five people you know on the chopping block three of them we went into tribal council believing it really could be any one of them the fact that it seemed like an open and shut case for saul to go from the beginning through kishan

proposing this plan of like okay we're actually going to force a two-two tie on rome so then genevieve as liana says coming out of the woodwork to propose one of the biggest pre-merge moves I can think of in quite some time besides Sabaya I would say and just turning the boat completely on to Kishan it was so much fun to watch Liana give me your perspective on all of this it was a I felt like I was on a roller coaster ride just being in all these different directions there thank you because not only was it the target seemed to continue to shift but also okay who the f is working with whom like that was also the other big thing because okay we had thought it's the group of four and by by the group of four, I mean Asia.

Yeah, exactly. Keyshawn, Tini. Okay, no, that's actually not true. We have a different group of four. It's actually Genevieve and Rome with Tini and Keyshawn. Wait, okay, no, that's not happening anymore. We're, you know, going now to the Saul-Rome-Genevieve group, sort of, but Rome hates Saul and is just following him around like a kid on the

playground and so to go through all of these different stages on Labo in general and then also to have that happen in this episode as Mike said to go from Saul to Rome to Keyshawn to maybe back to where like it's it was very very very fun it was always always constantly moving. I think I like, I also of course enjoy that from an unpredictability perspective, but it also does feel like, okay, I'm getting a little car sick. Can we just like slow down for a hot second and give me a chance to process, but very, very, very fun. Putting the drama in drama mean Beth. Yeah. Oh, Oh, I love that. I want that to be like my life motto. Drama and drama me. And they're like, what? Oh my God. Well, I put the pep in Pepto-Bismol. I love this approach. Hello. You know, I, I totally agree, but I think what was so interesting about this. And I think,

I think it was my friend, Isaac Butler,ler who posted this on twitter but it also may have been you mike so i apologize if i'm giving credit elsewhere they perfectly did the meme of people sitting in the pews and oh yeah the church is that you yeah no no that was that i will not take credit for that one stone tweeted something about it and then i saw it on reddit too but it was it was it was so perfect yes and it was the right number of people also, right? It was four people. It was incredible. So you have the person who's sitting in the front who thinks that, you know, they're waiting for whoever, you know, the person that they're going to get.

But the person sitting behind them is like, aha, but you're actually the target. There's someone behind them. But no, no, no, no. You're the target. But up in the rafters, you had Sniper Genevieve. had sniper Genevieve and the thing that was so funny is like sometimes production will do this thing where they have the contestants tell us and tell us in a confessional even though they've shown us no evidence for this so they're like you know Genevieve's like well obviously like Rome's been my number one for like a long time and I'm like is it obvious you haven't existed on the show what are you talking about we didn't know that you were even close with Rome until this episode when all of a sudden you're also trying to like play your other two people who you're supposedly close with, who I didn't know you were close with with them either?

Question mark, except for maybe from the vote from last week. So it's just very interesting when you have so many personalities that are dominating that tribe that I'm not necessarily mad from a viewer's standpoint of not knowing where all the chips lie. I like being able to find and follow the personal and personality drama of a tribe and how that may or may not influence votes. Just to have episodes like this that completely like turn everything that you think about the dynamics upside down it kind of goes back and harkens back to the idea of voting blocks again um but i specifically love how we just have fun personalities and love them or hate them rome is a fun entertaining person to watch online he or on uh on on tv and i mean online as well he's really

into the troll angle yeah that's right and i just think you know you have you come across roms in your life whether they're your siblings and they just drive you crazy as you're growing up or they're that co-worker or whoever and i think it's important to have people like him on that show because if you're going to represent like a microcosm of society, you gotta have that one person who is just a little unhinged. Yeah. You know, good,

good, good. Yeah. Representation of annoying people. I mean, yeah, this is, I'm,

I'm just so obsessed because he has to be the most antagonistic person I have seen on the show in quite a while. I mean, the fact that he's like following Saul through the jungle. It's all says, could you please stop? He goes, I don't need to. It's survivor. Like between that and the threat slash ultimate of like, it's not even masked by any sort of you know social niceties he is just brazenly out there being like you know what i'm the one in power so i don't care how you feel about me i'm not threatening you i'm just giving you an ultimatum and i'm like

honey there is an umbrella of threats and a spectrum so to say and i would say ultimatums are sometimes involved in that umbrella and spectrum it's very much a rectangle square thing yes it is also like i just i i don't know why i think this says a lot about me as a person and it might say that person has ulcerative colitis but i am wondering why people don't use the, I need to take a, maybe, maybe it's because they're not eating a lot, but it's like a, you know what, if you're going to follow me, great. I'm about to go to the bathroom and joy just sitting here as I, you know, squat and just stare directly into your eyes. We're going to aqua dump together. Exactly together exactly oh i wouldn't do it in the this would be a jungle dump that's what i'm saying you're gonna follow me in the jungle

i'm p shy rome please if you can turn your back all these things when people are digging and they get caught like fighting for idols the way i'd be like i know this looks sus i'm just gonna be honest i'm about to not feel very good. And I wanted to hide this. That's literally going to be my experience. And if Sue came out, she'd be like, I have hemorrhoids. Leave me alone. It's my period.

And they're like, what? You're 40? What? That's why she lied that she's 45. So she could be pre-menopausal. Yay! So she got caught with a bunch of blood So she could be premenopausal. Yay. So she got caught with a bunch of blood. Oh my, oh, that much? Good God.

It's a heavy flow name. Dude, I'm having endometriosis. Get out of there. No. She's just like, oh, my back hurts. I'm like, yes. Did you see how much body, or not body. How much blood you lost.

Oh my God. She's a demon. Get her some help, you know. I guess. Did you see how much body or not body? How much blood you lost? Oh my God. She's a demon. Get her some help, you know? Oh my gosh. Next week's challenge, they win iron. Yeah, exactly. Iron supplements.

To go back and to go back to the Rome Saul situation, though, there were just so many great moments. I think the moment that really stood out to me was saul being like is this real life incredulous saul is incredible like maybe for the sake of his mental sanity i don't want him to feel completely hounded at the same time it creates like he legitimately is looking at rome like he's ai he's like are you kidding me, dude? Like the fact that Saul is also so open the way that Rome is to be like, I can't believe the things you're saying to me right now is such great reaction content.

And I also have to give him so many massive props. I don't know many people who can handle that, myself included, in real life, let alone while I'm starving and in the elements playing a mentally exhausting and emotionally exhausting game to have that level of up your assness. Like, and, and I do think that his reaction, which come, I do think comes with age and like a little bit of wisdom to a certain extent, but I also just like that is somebody who has way more patience than I ever will have in my life. That is ultimately what makes people want to work with him because they're like, okay, do I want to work with the person that

once the stalls are gone, it that energy turns on me and I get tilted for my game? Or do I want to work with a person who even among all of this has able to have a measured sense of self and humanity and is able to express how annoying it is and how much it's hurting and those kinds of things, but not from a way that threatens me as a potential ally to know what they may or may not be doing. So I would like be the person who is like, you know, the, the Genevieve's and the, and the teenies going up and being like, are you OK? And having to be like, you know, it's I'm not going to lie from a human level. It's really hard. And they're like, yeah, like from a human level. Absolutely.

And I definitely think that they made up their minds that they were not going to vote him out, period, because of how he reacted. Whether it was going to they were going to take a shot at any number of other people on the tribe, then this is what we got to see after. Well, I think it's also very interesting because from a strategic perspective, if you just look at the strategy behind Rome's move and Genevieve's move, it's the exact same move, right? Like they both ultimately ended up doing the same thing, but the way that Rome conveys it and the way that Genevieve conveys it to Saul night and fricking day. And I think it's just such a good reminder that like fundamentally survivor is a social game.

It does really not matter all that much what your strategy is because you can have presented the same strategy in two very different packages and what matters the packaging. Because I think ultimately while it did end up being an ultimatum for saul regardless because let's say that you know genevieve says you know look like we're gonna we're gonna do this anyway right i mean that's kind of an ultimatum but the way that you deliver that information and ultimately they were able to get saul to vote with them now whether that was a self-preservationist move from Saul to essentially be like, look, this is happening anyway.

So no matter what I do, I might as well vote out Keyshawn, right? But it had the intended effect, which is we're getting rid of Keyshawn. Yeah. It's just interesting. I also, at the same time, I want to give rome props here too because i do think that that ultimatum though the packaging was atrocious um is using new era survivor in a pretty unique way to basically be like you know what i'm gonna try to quote unquote gain your trust which is not really what he was doing but i do think that there's this level of gameplay that we see occasionally that pops

up from all these different players once the shot in the dark is involved in this idea of, hey, give me your shot in the dark. And that way I know I can trust you or I'm going to steal your vote. Putting that pressure on somebody I do think is kind of interesting and seeing how they react. It's just that I don't think Rome had the next steps, which is the emotional intelligence portion of that or the ability to basically use the information you get based off of the reaction to inform your strategy of how you want to vote moving forward. I think he just had this goal, which was kick them while he's down. but i think you could use that for various different like i don't know information gathering before a vote well what i would also say though is that rome should not have been the person to do this no i already have a terrible relationship with him

let's further cut off any access point of us redeeming this bond by having me be the one to come to him no you very much like i try to get kishan do it though again like kishan's mo through this episode has been very much like i'm gonna push room to do that take advantage of the fact that room wants to be the one to kind of do everything and say like no no it's your idea you should take care of it and as a result dig his hole a bit deeper even even if the grave is Keyshawn's. I mean, God, that like the Keyshawn Soze edit, the idea of like, oh, the time lapse montage with the reverb of like all these things

that Keyshawn was saying about Genevieve. As if she had this big epiphany in the moment and got access to these confessionals at the last second. So, so good. I mean, from what kishan told me he didn't necessarily feel like the smoking gun was him throwing out genevieve's name as a decoy he had said that he had actually told genevieve before rome did that she was the decoy he more so feels that it was her putting the pieces together of less so oh i'm not important to his game, more so, oh my God, this guy's behind all these plans behind the scenes. I've got to get rid of him. He's too dangerous.

I am so happy you brought up the montage, Mike, because if there was one thing I got out of this episode, it's my new favorite clip, which is the most innocent smile of Keyshawn just being zoomed in on as the camera fades away that made me laugh so hard that I and thankfully I was already texting with with Brian Scali but I literally texted Scali and I was like if you do not make this video clip for me you I I will not talk to you next week at RGP NYC. I can't wait to see those who will be there. I just, he immediately sent that to me. I am not even joking when I say I've watched it over 25

times and have laughed every single time. There was just something about it that was so not in line with what I'm used to Survivor doing, especially because Keyshawn's face, he looks like just the most innocent cherub and kindergartner with this just really pure little innocent smile. And I, I'm just obsessed. And this, I just felt like this season or this episode of survivor was both intentionally by production and unintentionally so funny in addition to having so many interesting things happen from a survivor's perspective I just was dying of laughter and

cracking up and that was that moment um and it was an important moment for the strategy the storytelling of the boat and I was so distracted by the cinematography and editing it was just so beautiful well because it's the juxtaposition between oh Keyshawn is this mastermind and him just being like just cheeky smiling in the background it's like this like like intense awakening music underneath exactly well what it is is we all watch Big Brother right it's the classic thing where when somebody's mentioning a person who's not in the conversation it just like slam cuts to them and sometimes it's of them doing something sinister and sometimes it's like well we've got to get really rid of brad and brad's like does anyone want to smell my toes like it's going for that sort of dramatic

irony yes uh well the other moment that felt um that made me laugh is in sort of similar is when Genevieve is talking with Saul and they're having this while we could work together, kind of moving forward. And Saul goes, I'm getting really excited right now in the most chill tone I've ever heard anyone say. I'm getting really excited right now. but it also wasn't monotone I know what you're saying it wasn't like a it wasn't stoic yeah it was just calm it was just like I'm getting really excited right now yeah and you're like I can feel that what you're saying is the truth but are you I mean I get it obviously they're in public I mean so they're not like hidden so he can't be like hell yeah like we're gonna do this together so I understand that but I mean, I get it. Obviously they're in public. I mean, so they're not like hidden. So he can't be like, hell yeah, we're going to do this together. So I understand that. But I also

don't think that's the case. Like, I do just feel like that's all because that was the impression that I got from him from the interview. And he said the things to you, Mike, where I'm so outgoing and I'm such a kooky character and he's saying it in such a calm, chill, demure way. Very mindful. We love it. Very demure way very mindful we love it very demure we love it yeah i mean this was just this was just absolutely incredible like i i just feel like people talk all the time about how six-person tribes stymies a lot of the movement you could do and not to say that's not true but this was sort of the exception to the rule where there were so many shifting pieces because there were so few votes to work with and as a result I mean Jeff said the theme of the season was ever shifting power and

we had someone who was in the middle who went to the top who then all of a sudden shifted down to the bottom I don't know but how do we feel about losing Keyshawn here? Is he someone that you feel was cut down on his prime, or is he someone that you feel was sort of like a necessary expenditure if it meant the mess had to continue? I think both, quite frankly. I think that, you know, I'm sad to see Keyshawn go because I do think it would have been interesting to see him

integrate with different people with either a tribe swap or at a merge and just see how does he then navigate is he somebody who can really take control of the game or is it purely because he had so many chaotic personalities aka just roam on his tribe that were complicating things enough that he could hide could he be you know a wolf in sheep's clothing with a bigger or different group of people? And I do think that he had a lot of really great strategy and because he's a little cherub kindergartner

with that beautiful face, and then you see him, you know, in the confessionals being like, why wouldn't I take the shot at this person? And I can be evil and such. I love that. I love when you have people, you know, the, the people who are sneaky and such,

you don't always have to be a villain with a villainous personality. They could be the person, you know, with the smile next door that you wave and you don't really know your neighbors kind of way, you know, and he's that kind of person. And I always think that's a lot of fun, but that said, by getting rid of Keyshawn the week after getting rid of Asia, that tribe has to be looking at each other like the Spider-Man meme and going like, Oh, what do I do? I don't even know how to dress. You know, teeny poor

teeny was on a different Island on the journey and gave up, gave up their vote, which I was like, Whoa. Okay. I we'll get to that. But I just, I think it's so interesting that Teenie is the one that has been trying to make good strategic decisions and has that super outgoing, charismatic personality that everybody just, you know, is attracted to, but nobody listens to Teenie, even though they're all, you know, aligned with them.

I don't know, I just think it's very interesting. And then you have Genevieve who comes out of the shadows and you're like, Whoa, what is this? And then you have Rome who's been in the spotlight that you're like, Oh, Rome is, he's had the vampire. And then you have Saul who's just like, listen, I'm just going to be calm, cool, collected, even though it has been a shit storm of my ride here. And I just think this tribe is so fascinating. I can't wait to see how they move forward as individuals or potential Alliance members down the road. One thing for teeny is that obviously it sucks losing the person that you're closest to, right? Okay. There's no other way around that. That being said, you got to experience what it feels like to be blindsided and

you are still in the game and i think that that is also an extremely powerful lesson it's something that we talk about with winners when they come back to play again they don't know what that's like they've never experienced that so they're a bit blinded when they do ultimately end up getting blindsided so they i think there's a way to spin it for Tini and also be, look, I didn't have a vote. I think that there's a recovery path for Tini here. Right, this is not what we thought the Rome-Saul thing was, right?

Which is like, well, you voted for me. And so I have every reason to vote for you. I think if Tini had to lose Keyshawn here, they're coming back to a pretty ideal situation where I personally subscribe to the idea that like, Saul's I don't know what I'm doing was genuine, that like he was surprised by having Kishan's vote taken. And he was like, OK, like I can't really do anything.

So I guess I'll vote for Kishan here. I still think that him and Rome, I doubt they're going to vote together again. I think you give them another day and they'll find yet another reason oh yeah fracture apart uh or you could even be like uh hey let's turn it on to Genevieve now because now Genevieve I mean we spoke about this with someone like Carolyn in 44 like it's a very impressive thing but the downside comes with now to your point Liana you spotted Waldo and Waldo is right out in the forefront and now those uh red stripes are

turning into red flags of okay could I want to get rid of this person and so I do think Teenie has some outs here because also even outside of that look at the fact that to your point Beth we came into this episode with Saul being labeled as a dead man walking and ended this episode very much not the case a very similar thing could happen with Teenie where if enough if enough people like them then like that's a better reason to keep them in than somebody else there's so many times that happen more in Survivor than you can see in a show like Big Brother where there's only two people on the block when you have everybody on the block, potentially, you know, bar one person, any given tribal, it forces the people who are actually good social connectors to be able to navigate the good and the bad. And Teenie is somebody who

naturally is going to be a good connector. And so this vote wasn't about going against teeny it was about going against kishan and so that works into teeny's favor because like you guys said rome and saul are not going to want to work together this was purely just because of the numbers quite frankly i'm surprised saul actually voted and didn't use this shot in the dark because if he if i were saul i probably would have used my shot in the dark in that situation thinking to myself well if they're actually going to go with the plan it's going to be 2v2 they'll have you know their vote or I'm already gone I'm dead mad walking and like this way I am not showing teeny any lack of loyalty nobody has actually shown me loyalty

this is the first time they're showcasing it. Like there's just different elements to it. That is almost like with Saul's personality, he could absolutely come back and go, I had no idea what was going on. I just figured I was going to be the one to go and further a relationship potentially with teeny moving forward, um, to basically say I wasn't a part of it. I mean, he can still go back and go, I just did that because they approached me. I didn't actually think that Rome was going to steal his vote. So when he did, I knew that was the sign for me to do this safely. So there's a, I think that he and Teenie are going to work together. No problem.

Genevieve and Rome, I actually think in the long term, Genevieve has actually not done a good move for her game I actually think this was not a smart move for her I think that she was sitting pretty having two people who were very loyal to her and one person who was very loyal to her and then Saul was continuing this relationship and instead of being the person who like designs who goes out and takes all the credit and all that kind of stuff. Like now she's going to be the person everybody has to watch out for. I don't know if that was a smart move because I don't know if she's going to have relationships with people who want to work together with her now moving forward. So I'm interested to see how this moves forward

for her. I mean, I also think part of it though, is how it's perceived. We saw what the story we were told, but how is this going to be perceived on the island? Because it could be a situation where, well, Rome did the steal a vote. So, you know, I mean, Genevieve can push it back onto Rome a little bit if that's something that she's interested in doing. Then I think that's a possibility. But also remember, Tini voted for Saul. So I also think that this is even though Saul didn't vote for Tini, you could perceive it as a little bit of like, OK, look, it's a different tap. We're over it. Let's move on. I do think they're 100 percent going to work together.

Because at the end of the day, Saul hates Rome. And who can Teenie trust at this point? I mean, Teenie is going to have to trust Saul. And I think that Genevieve has put herself in a situation where she has to trust Rome. And that is not the person you want to have to trust in this situation. And you know what helps as well is Teenie being like, hey, I have this, you know,

cross tribal idol that we can utilize too. And maybe that's something that might draw a target. But at the same time, we saw the other two really reveal it to everybody to kind of like almost use it

as a communal tribe. I love like, well, now if we have this big tribal alliance, we can now work with these people to, you know, be able to utilize it to our benefit, even though I doubt that's going to happen. So I know that from what we saw, Teenie only told Keyshawn and Genevieve,

but that's another reason from Genevieve's perspective to want to keep Teenie in is like, that's something that's either on my side or somebody that could easily get Teenie targeted at the merge over me absolutely all right well we're not finished talking kishan just yet as we talk about that lovingly deceptive face and our thoughts about him in the preseason liana how, how did you think Keyshawn was going to do? Okay, this one is this is interesting reading

it back. So all right. So I had I did have Keyshawn pre-jury. I said that Keyshawn would form a tight bond with Genevieve as soon as their feet hit the beach, seeing her as this season's Parvati. However, this duo was on the outs

and it doesn't take a doctor to see that two out of six is not the majority. Keyshawn triaged. Triaged? I wrote, this is a triage pun. Oh, gotcha, triaged. I love it. To connect with Teenie and Asia,

but couldn't diagnose the issue in their relationships, sending him on the pre-jury trip. His ally was Genevieve and his enemy was Teenie. Liana. Oh, no. Dang that match game music. I also had Keyshawn going out for a drink. Oh!

That's wild. I'm really intrigued to see how far this streak will go. There's a fair chance we might have the same winner pick at the end of this all. I had Keyshawn getting voted out pre-jury, realizing he was on a tribe with the two people he wasn't vibing with pre-season. If you recall, the two people he explicitly called out were Tini and Asia. Keyshawn tries to subtly turn the men and Genevieve, parentheses, Meneneve,

against them in the first few days. It does not go well. True to his enjoyment of chaos, Keyshawn decides to create his own. He starts spreading rumors about other players, which draws attention to him when they easily compare notes. Keyshawn moves forward with his preseason hot take, refusing

to go on journeys when presenting themselves. Unfortunately, that deprives him of a chance for an advantage he so sorely needs. When Lavo faces their vote, Gishan thinks he has easily gotten the votes together against Genevieve, but his trip to the TCER flatlines.

Diagnosis, blindside. His ally was Rome and his enemy was Genevieve. Oh, well, you know, what's funny about that is the fact that Genevieve is the one that takes him out and such. You know, this is always I love this portion. I love when I get to hear two people who are very, you know, strategic and intelligent and personable and fun come up with really good trajectories. Because I do something similar, not to this level of detail, but I do something similar when I'm thinking through a boot list. I also had Keyshawn going to say they're so smart. We need to get them out or they can't help in physical challenges. We're going to get them out or they're, you know, too, uh, you know, wily.

And I don't know, you know, like they're too cunning. I'm going to get them out. And ultimately that's kind of what happens with him, but it's just because people actually Genevieve see that this is what he's doing I gotta give this the edge to Liana I felt like this felt very very close to what happened uh in this situation but I mean I would I don't know I would love to see Kishan come back at some point um I don't know for Swipe 50 I'm just saying in general I would love to see a Keyshawn come back because I do think that given different tribe dynamics, given this,

he's somebody that I think is absolutely going to learn through what happened and learn how to navigate chaos a little bit more. Cause how can you be on a tribe of the Rome and not learn that lesson? All right. Let's get into our game this week. And I was so happy to have this man in my DMs. He's been doing this for three seasons now, and we're going to keep the streak going,

much like the honor and I matching our preseason predictions. And in honor of the big brother finale, actually, tonight, we we're gonna play a game that they have not done in a while we are going to be doing a survivor 47 face morph so for those who don't remember how this works is i am going to provide you a picture that is a mash-up of three survivor contestants one of them will be very obvious so we won't count that one but it is up to you to guess who the other two are it's primarily going to be through facial features uh if you end up guessing well i'll ask you this because i did the same thing a couple weeks ago would you rather work against each other or would you rather work together? I don't think it matters because I'm not going to do well either way.

I want everyone to know if anybody's keeping score at home, in which case, if you are, I'm sorry. There has yet to be a game that I've played on the B&B where I am even remotely good at it. I think I've gotten one question right the entire time I've been here. So if Liana is in need of a W today, let's be competitive. If Liana is missing the camaraderie of podcasting with me on a week to week covering Drag Race, happy to work together. What do you think, Liana? I'm down either way. You know me.

I'm a collaborative girly who is also extremely competitive. Yeah, that's so true, though. I think let's compete. Yeah, let's compete. Let's compete. All right. So then, yeah, there's seven of them. There's several of them.

So I don't think we could go back and forth. I think it's just like shout out when you think you have something. If you get one facial feature, if you figure out one other person besides, again, the obvious one, you'll get a point. If you figure out the other two, so it's the full three, I'll give you three points.

So basically what you're doing is like, if you guess one, you maybe open yourself up for the other person to guess as well and get another point. Right. Because it's eyes, nose, mouth,

right. Is, and then it's like body, but the body is the obvious one. Right. Exactly. So for, I,

I, I'm not going to bring up pictures. Don't worry. That's sort of, can I bring up a cast list of names? There's still people that I'm like, which one is Caroline versus Genevieve? Oh,

actually that's not an issue I have after this episode. So maybe not. No, I think it should be fine. All right. Let's see. I'm so good. It's going to go.

Okay. Let's go. I'm excited. Let's get into this. Shall we? Yeah. Well, let's start with she's gone,

but certainly not forgotten. Oh, oh, are those john's eyes well i was gonna say do you want to i mean i thought we were i'm sorry molly you could come up with your own individual buzzer john's eyes is the buzzer in case that's a wrong answer wow that's just been lost in them since the very first week i don't know okay well Well, I mean, it's OK. So Asia is the overarching person in this, right? Yes.

So Asia's Asia's the gimme. So you have to guess who the other two are. I'm trying to look at the sort of asymmetry in the smile because. Look at the sort of asymmetry in the smile. Mm-hmm. Because I know Sam had some asymmetry in his smile, but I don't remember. Whose eyes are those?

You locked in John Lovett's. Wait, will you tell, will you tell, or John Lovett, will you tell us if that's right or not? Well, so here's what I'll do. Beth, I'll say you register a full guest so you can say like asia john etc i'll tell you if one of them is right and then liana if one of them is right you get the chance do we have to say do we have to say what we think is each person say or just can we name three people and you're like yes this person was right i'm like i mean if you want to waste your guess

that's fine okay i think i got you i got you was you just say a person because that's how they do it in big brother right you don't have to identify okay so we list three people whatever you want to do okay I'm gonna say wait can I get my guess the rules are so confusing okay I'm gonna say teeny andy and sam i will remind you that one of them is asia i thought you said there was one that was obvious and there's three others the obvious one is a no there's two of them so why is it so bad for us is it too late i will i will give you one more chance i want you to know that you were talking to people who are used to looking at people with a lot of makeup on them that change their features So I, well, Asia's the gimme. And I'm going to say Sam and John. Okay.

So you said Asia, Sam and John. That is, you are a one for three there. So your two guesses were not correct. Liana. Okay. Was I right with Asia? Asia. I wonder if you were.

Okay. Then I'm going to go with Asia, Teenie, and Andy. Liana gets one point. So that is Asia's body. Those are Andy's eyes. You got a point for that. It is Sierra's mouth. Oh, that's not even on my radar not gonna lie okay okay okay sierra's mouth that she

is not putting any chicken into anytime soon uh so and by the way if people want a visual of this uh if you're not watching the video version bit.ly slash 47 face morph should do that for you as you stare upon these woe begotten creations so liana on the board with one point okay okay next up chunk from the goonies is back in plague survivor here so obviously we know the body is gabe but if either one of you want to register a guess have at it register a guess have at it sorry i'm just i'm just i'm just process i'm just processing what's happening i think it's gabe sam and caroline okay so you are guessing gabe sam and caroline correct is that correct beth yeah i'm, you did not get the other two.

See, I'm telling you, I have no spatial awareness. Liana, up to you. Okay, is it Gabe, Kyle, and TK? That is also incorrect. We blanked this person. That is Gabe's body. It it is teeny's nose and mouth and it is a pair of eyes we've been seeing a lot in this episode it is rome's eyes and eyebrows oh wow yeah no i just wouldn't i've never gotten no no that wow the contrast between the eyes no wonder they're not working together right now because contrast between the eyes and the nose mouth

oh really fit okay that's not what i thought you were saying i thought you were saying because of the composition of this model's face i thought you were trying. I thought you were saying because of the composition of this model's face, I thought you were trying to say that the eyes were slightly looking in the wrong, different directions but they weren't working together. And I was like, oh my gosh! But no, it's just gotcha. I mean, it does look like they're going in different

directions. I'll give you that. Alright, so by a commanding lead of 1-0 from Liana, we enter our third picture oh beautiful so we know that while it's not his eyes john love it is the body so either one of you want to register a guess as to who the other two are the body yaddy yaddy where is the body? Where is the body? Is this Genevieve, Sue and John? Genevieve, Sue and John. Beth, I will give you one point.

Yes. Genevieve is one of the people. So it's Genevieve, John. I actually will amend what I said. It might not entirely be the body for the third person. Wait, what? I don't know't know you tell me make a guess okay so the thing is is i actually think i know whose mouth this is so now i'm trying to guess whose eyes it is based on beth because i think okay i'm gonna go with john sue and saul john

sue and saul beth ties up the score. Liana, you blanked it. No, is that not Saul? He's doing like a smirk. Saul's smirking in his picture. I'm pretty sure this one is a little tricky, tricky here. So it is John. It is not John's body. It is John's head and mouth.

It is Genevieve's eyes. Sam. But from the neck down, it is Sammy boy. Oh. I thought, because I knew, okay, I was obsessed with Saul preseason. Okay, I'm just going to put that out there. So I knew that he was arms crossed in his photo.

So I thought that that could be, oh man. I continue to be obsessed with Saul and I want everyone to know I feel like that he's the ideal man for me. I'm just putting that out there. I love him. Alright, next up. Ah!

So this one is not a trick. It's TK's head and body. Who wants to take a guess as to who the other two are? This is that smile that damn smile smile ah okay is it i'm gonna go with tk sue and gabe tk sue Gabe. No, the other two are not correct. Beth, what would you like to guess? TK?

I think the eyes are Annika and TK. And I'm I have no idea for the smile. I know this all cast in the obviously because they could have been

they could have been yeah tk was voted out two episodes ago yeah that's exactly why and you had john less and asia so let's uh move past that um i don't know who this i feel like that's not rome's smile is it i know is that your final answer yeah annika rome tk i don't know who this I feel like that's not Rome's smile, is it? Is that your final answer? Yeah, Annika, Rome, TK. I don't know. Annika, Rome, TK. Well, you asked if people could repeat.

The answer is yes. And it does in this one as the mouth is from the woman of the hour and a half. Genevieve. We had her eyes last time. Now we have her mouth of course TK's body the eyes of Caroline Caroline

you have very beautiful eyes this model's not so bad this is not as nightmare fuel I just want to point that out well I'm so glad you said that because this is where the semi-normal ones pretty much end. And I put out the disclaimer that I have the deepest of apologies for the Survivor 47 contestants out there. So right now we are tied at one to one.

Beth, you have made up some ground since question two as we move into our final three. And hopefully not these final three because i do not want to look at these faces on finale night let's start with this one oh gosh okay i kind of feel like i know this one immediately it's so creepy okay wait so i mean obviously this is rachel's body this is rachel's body so you have to guess we can all agree on that but and rachel's wearing glasses in her cast photo i'm pretty sure right so those are her glasses but those are not her eyes am i seeing is that right yeah okay okay i i think this is rachel kyle annika rachel kyle and annika

three points go to beth dixon that is correct i also guess rachel kyle annika leona you get three ghost points for being correct, Beth, that's amazing. I mean, the Kyle one was, it was like, okay, facial hair. So we have a limited number of facial hair people, Kyle, but the eyes, you nailed it. Yeah. So go back to, if you wouldn't mind, Mike,

if you go back one to the eyes, I thought that those were Annika's eyes last time because I've noticed that Annika has like this really beautiful, like honey and uh like eight hazel brown it's just like it's a beautiful eye color that every time she gets a confession I'm like oh she has beautiful eyes so I thought that was it but when we moved this time I was like oh I know those are those guys yeah lovingly cropped upon that five six head that Rachel has

here this looks exactly like one they would put on big brother by the way yeah oh yeah for sure this is one that if i had to do that competition i'd be like oh you get that confessional i'd be like i know this one immediately and then i don't know any of the other ones and they make a whole like you know clown music behind me i feel like if you just take like from the neck up with the head like he looks like he either does meth would sell you meth or both but like in a studious way oh he's got those glasses yeah yeah because his sister is a pharmacy tech at the local pharmacy get that sweet cough medicine for you it's codeine that's yeah okay codeine kowalski all right i think i actually went to

high school with this guy oh nice in the middle of nowhere new york well next up the atrocities continue oh boy oh no oh uh oh man i kind of just want to lock in the point so i'm just gonna i'm Oh, man. I kind of just want to lock in the point. So I'm just going to I'm going to guess before Beth can. So I'm going to say Keyshawn, Tiana and Sam. OK, you get one point. It is indeed Tiana and Keyshawn. Beth, you have a chance to guess as to who the third person is to extend your lead. Is it Saul?

Saul? It is not. It is not Saul. Saul? John Lovett. John Lovett. We saw his lower half of the face previously. Now we have the upper half of his face. So I noticed in this episode more so than I had any others that Saul

tends to kind of like wink and he has kind of like a facial it's tick of sorts when he's like he's a blinker, he's a blinker, that kind of thing so I thought like maybe, oh when he smiles maybe one eye is a little smaller than the other or something because it's, you know, part of him like

his charm or whatever, but I didn't know that this guy 100% teaches Krav Maga and is like or like Brazilian dance fighting and is trying to get you to sign up. Like it's just one dropping class, you know, just try it out.

And then maybe you'll want to come value to my studio weekly. Don't ignore the smell. It's fine. The studio is also my apartment. It's a studio apartment. That's my studio. Oh my gosh. All right.

Well, Liana, you've closed the gap now Beth is only ahead two points it's a bit of a do or die situation as we move into our last but thankfully least face morph oh my gosh oh my gosh

oh my gosh oh my gosh oh my gosh oh my gosh what have you are these all the s's sue sam saul beth is putting her guess of sue sam saul game over baby you were right on the money i i wanted to guess as quickly as possible to get this abomination off the screen. Thank you.

Thank you. No, I'm just going to. Yeah, I'm going to just. No! I mean, OK, so I recognize Sue's eyes, but just the combination of these facial features together. My gosh. This is nightmare fuel.

This is legit nightmare fuel. I'm terrified. I keep... I actually... I'm sorry to whoever this is in the real world, but I'm pretty sure I swiped left on this person the other day on Tinder. I love it.

It reminds me of a couple things. It's like if someone did an ai photo realization of like when you take the warheads candy and like that picture like like your facial features are sucked into the center like a black hole or the other one is like if a spell turns some sort of ferret to a human that those facial features would kind of carry over from the little eyes when the polyjuice potion goes wrong yeah exactly yeah yeah oh my gosh i think it's just that sue's small eyes don't yeah sam's pretty large head exactly that's the that's the issue it's the proportion of each of the facial features it's just what a this could have you know benefited from proportionizing from

drag race season whatever 10 or 11 wait who is this again sue we finally got sol on here it's his mouth and nose oh damn she's i mean the more i'm looking she's kind of fab listen i mean this is also one of the rare ones that has like one from each tribe uh this could have been like uh the listen we don't know what's happening next episode could this mean that saul sam and sue would never work together because they're like think about what our children would look like think about our facial features and now the nation of our facial features it would malignation of our facial features. It would never work. Have you guys, I don't know if you ever watched Modern Family, but there was an episode where, you know,

Mitch and Cam are considering, or like Claire says that she would carry if they ever wanted to have a child or whatever, and they end up going home. They're all drunk at dinner and like really crying about how beautiful it would be for her to carry. And then they go back and they do face morphs and the child would be so ugly.

They're like, Oh no. And I think that it's the side against it. Cause I think they were going to use like, you know, Cam's DNA with Claire to make, so it'd be biologically, you know,

part, but they were like, no, we can't do it. I feel like this is probably a result that they got oh that's creepy well get it put it down get it away thank you beth look at you coming in being like i never win shit you won and decisively so oh yeah five point victory yeah i i was quite rude and gave liana no time both times i got massive points. That's the strat.

Gotta play the game. Exactly, yes. That's right, okay. Well, let's say now I'm one for four or something on the B&B, so 25% never felt so great. Beth, anything else you want to talk about with this episode? Again, there was so much going on. This was such a good episode. We barely

touched upon Gada, but any other major beats you want to hit before we say goodbye no you know i i the the funny part of gada having the whole storyline of like andy dropped a shot in the dark like they clearly are like doing pretty darn well if that's the storyline we check in with them is this idea that oh my gosh they have like an andy is like a you know kind of a clumsy player uh montage but that's like not anything new in episode four at this point so they must be doing pretty well it makes me wonder how they're going to move forward because oftentimes the tribes that have that one squeaky wheel that they're all kind of like but they're doing well otherwise sometimes they're the ones that are the first to implode. Um, so I'm excited to see how they do moving forward. Overall, I'm loving the

season. I love this cast. I think that there are so dynamic and fun. We have people who are villains in terms of like normal everyday people that you would complain about in your life. Uh, in addition to people who are breaking all sorts of like, uh, stereotypes for who you think they would be in, in, in such a, in a game. And I'm loving that you have people like Sue who are like, she is not your average mother, but at the same time is absolutely your average mother. And so I'm loving all of that. I think this is, uh, this, I think this episode was one of the best in the modern era. I had such a good time covering it. And I'm loving all of that. I think this is this. I think this episode was one of the best in the modern era. I had such a good time covering it.

And I'm so thankful you guys had me on to talk about all the good parts of it. Yeah, this season has been shaping up to so great. I mean, depending on how it goes, I mean, we technically only have, I think, unless things go awry, one more episode basically in the pre-merge. And if that's the case i would cement this as probably the best pre-jury of the new era right up there with like 42 might come close but it's just been so good so far so surprising across many many levels again just to see the most invisible player of the season have this massive breakout episode and single-handedly mastermind this huge you know

downfall of someone that was in charge of the tribe coming into this episode was so so good but it was so funny as well you know a bit between to your point all the andy stuff the george costanza but then also like the sam and sierra schism that's happening there's so much happening with this cast that makes me so so happy to to get into it and will continue to do so. Final thing we do here on the B&B is, of course, let our guests plug a charity or cause that is important to them. Beth, the ball is in your court. What do you want to shout out? I mean, I think the most obvious thing for us to shout out right now are all the people who were victims of the hurricanes in the United States at this time. There's lots of different ways and funds to add. I just add, do your research to make sure you know where money is going when any

particular organization is asking for money. And also, I think that this is a good reminder with the election less than a month away to also be educating yourself on things like FEMA responses. There's a lot of people who have been, um, kind of questioning and concerned, like how much does FEMA get for money and all that kind of stuff. And I don't mean to make things political. I just mean to say, um, there's a lot of things that the government can and can't control. And then there's a lot of things that local governments and state governments and such have to do with in hurricanes and cleanup and certain amounts of funding. So please, please, please take the time to do good,

legitimate research. So you feel educated to go into that voting booth in a month from now and know who might increase FEMA funding for natural disasters that are only going to happen more and more. And those disaster relief could be anything from food and housing and supplies to assisting, you know, stray animals get out of the area to potentially be adopted. There's a whole bunch of things going on there, donating to environmental and climate change organizations. And just my heart is with all of those in the South and who have undergone such devastation and unfortunately just continue. So I just I just want to throw that out there. unfortunately just continues. So I just I just want to throw that out there.

Absolutely. And very well put. Well, as mentioned at the beginning, Beth, much like Sue, you're covering yourself in blood metaphorically on a weekly basis, covering the new season of Dragula. Why don't you plug that as well as anything else you want people to check out? So actually, we won't be covering it weekly so what we're going to be doing is kind of doing we uh started this first episode really not or a podcast that came out yesterday really not actually covering the first two episodes beat by beat is a recap what sugar free patron sugar free is an awesome drag queen based out of uh los angeles and i are doing is actually uh we took the first two episodes based off of the looks the extermination challenges for those that don't know it's basically kind of like fear factor challenges whoever performs worse goes home rather than a lip sync for your life and we looked at all those

elements and then compared them through seasons one through five ranking different categories so to say like best ghoul friend and best monster best exterminant which well really worst extermination challenges things we would never want to do um and so on and so forth so you can take a look at that our hope is to do potentially another podcast around halloween because why not when it's spoopy season and then do a finale recap after it finishes in early December to go back through and look at the season as a whole and revisit the question we asked yesterday. Is this already the best season of Dracula? Can it measure up? Wow. I love it. All right. And what can people check out for you on social media and other platforms perhaps? Yes. You can follow me at

Augusta Wind on my Instagram and twitter um i'm typically just being a fool so feel free like last night i played a lot of overwatch and i just posted a lot of clips so if you're interested in that kind of thing great feel like pokemon amazing if you love survivor and dragula and drag race and all the rest feel free to follow me there all right liana what have you got to plug well we and i are doing the mass singer our last season we're having a lot of fun just talking about stupid stuff as always and then speaking of stupid stuff i did the recap of the recap for the last big brother episode not the finale of course but chapelle rob and i got into all of the stupid things in that episode it was the most fun i've had it was also my first

big brother podcast and i think two years so it was a fitting return to the disaster that is big brother a show i love so so so much well speaking of that conclusion it is happening tonight and i will be burning the midnight oil i'll be awake like a vampire talking with the final three as well as the winner of america's favorite player we'll be putting those out asap of course i got to speak with kishan which was a lot of fun he gave a lot of perspective as to uh both you know his thoughts on genevieve as well as how that informed him voting out asia in the last episode which i know a lot of people, obviously, especially these circles are doing a little bit of like,

I told you so's to him, but he gave, I think, some very sound reasoning as to between his relationship with Genevieve. And again, Asia may be not wanting to budge on voting out Saul contributed to his move, even if it backfired ultimately. So be sure to check that out. Also doing edge of press for the challenge for the mass singer you could check out the the circle coverage if you've just watched

the finale there as well scripted tv did a lot of stuff this week uh tv for real we had dwight on which was a good time we had uh the penguin is coming out with a new episode tonight and then i was on the weekend programming a program talking treehouse of horror of course uh for those who don't know classic simpsons is like my bread and butter it is uh my staple my rice if you will uh and so i got to highlight a bunch of segments from 35 years of it uh that people should check out in honor of next week. First off, as Beth mentioned,

we have the RHAP live show. I believe, I don't know if I'm putting words in the mouths of all of us. All three of us should be there in some capacity. So that should be very exciting. These are always super fun events. No matter what the quality of the episode is, getting to be in a room with Survivor fans watching the episode is second to none.

And so I'm excited. It looks like we're getting something that's never been done before. And there has been some speculation that I don't think it's completely game changing, but should be an interesting wrinkle. So we'll get into that. Of course, don't be shy. Say hi to us if you're out there. That's one of my favorite things

about the the entire evening is like getting to talk with the people that listen to us do this goofy shit each and every week and then that weekend leon and i will rest and recover and get back into it and i believe not to jinx it i think we're gonna have a little bit of a double date here on the bnb and bnb should really be underlined because i believe we are having a twosome from survivor 45 brando and brandon coming with us to talk about what episode 5 is of course two pre-mergers to finish off the pre-merge of survivor 47 should be a very fun time of course send in your games a special shout out to sean again i love these pictures so so much so if you want to send in ideas or submissions like sean

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