RHAP: We Know Survivor - Survivor 47 B&B Premiere with Gabby Pascuzzi

Episode Date: September 21, 2024

Mike and Liana are joined by Survivor: David vs. Goliath cast member Gabby Pascuzzi for the premiere!

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You better pray to your mama that they're not super lame. And if that all sounds cool, I can tell you the name. It's the R-H-A-P-B-M-E. Mike and Liana, yada, playing some games. You better pray to your mama that they're not super lame. And if that all sounds cool, I can tell you the name. It's the R-H-A-M-E. You can stay for free. Hi everybody and welcome to the RHAP B&B for the premiere of Survivor 47. My name is Mike Bloom and we have now officially two hours of Survivor 47 that have aired a cast that is as open and noisy as a box tumbling down a mountainside and we are here to break it all down for you today of course I am not alone I am joined by the glue girl of this podcast Liana Boris Liana how are you I'm doing well thank you Mike

before we jump into everything from this episode I just want to close something out from the preview that we did. So we discussed your T shirt of Jeff that we bought last season. So we decided that I would be wearing my T shirt every single week and I would wash it every single week and we'll see how it disintegrates over time. Yeah, so I just want for the record here is it mint condition. Okay, I just want for the record, here is it. Mint can dish.

Okay. Jeff. Wow. Ooh. Beautiful. I just want the before and after pictures. So I want to make sure we got that in before we get into everything. I'm ready.

Yeah. We need the, how it started, how it's going. Me for your shirt and mine from last week. Yes. Well, very excited to welcome this person. And, you you know we did end up seeing the booth this week of a guy who was maybe one of the most famous people to play since mike white so it only makes sense that we bring in somebody who played with the real mccoy himself it is the great gabby pescuzzi hello yeah um yeah definitely see is my cats excited to join us. Yeah, excited to be here. Thanks for having me.

Gabby, as a Survivor player, what do you look forward to in the premiere the most? Because it's always such a can of worms, right? Because there's the excitement of being a player and getting to see the first three days play out and then sometimes the reality of like what the actual edited product looks out for you know we are uh coming upon what like uh six years since you ended up playing do you still get like palpable emotions when you see a survivor premiere happen i do i can't explain it like in in all areas of my life i don't think about survivor that often but on Survivor premiere night like I get the same jitters that I to a much lesser extent but I I get those jitters I really look forward to meeting the cast and it's it's so fun to welcome in like a group of new people into our

wacky family and you know over the year definitely when I was more recently on, I would reach out to people and be like, hey, I don't do that as much anymore because, well, I'm also I'm trying to finish my PhD. So I don't have as much time to do all my Survivor fan stuff that I used to. But like they still are like I still am so happy to welcome them into the family, even if I'm not like reaching out to them individually. So it's just fun to see new people get to experience this once in a lifetime experience that I was lucky enough to do. And just seeing like the joy and, you know, they're not beaten down yet. They're all excited about what their game is going to be like. They're all like still saying all their big ideas from casting where

they're like, I'm going to win because da da da. And I'm like, oh, I love seeing this bright eyed, bushy tailed start to Survivor. Like genuinely not even not even making fun of them. It's a very positive and exciting time of the season. And then they're birthed by mud and then it all changes. Yes, the mud is birthing you into survivor but that's kind of what it is right you're welcoming 18 new members into the family as you said so the birthing i do feel is oddly appropriate so yeah yeah jeff's like so jeff is an octo mom he's like deca octo dad

yeah i don't know what 18 is but then i mean he's got all the children before that right yeah exactly it's five generations and generations he's a busy man it's more than nick cannon that's that's saying something jeff when's that blood versus water season when's all of nick cannon and his baby mamas and all the children competing against each other i'm waiting i'm waiting jeff i'm waiting well talk about a an interesting new group to welcome into the family liana perhaps proper for the birthing mud what a messy group of people you know i think we were wondering after 45 and 46 brought a hefty amount of suboptimal gameplay, but really entertaining television. It looks like the trend is continuing and I am very happy to see it. I live. I thought from the preseason, this was just a group of social normal people. And I'm so happy that we got to see all the chaos unfold. And it

felt like every tribe had the right amount of chaos. It's not like there was sort of the one, you know, quote unquote, calm or normal tribe. Everyone. And maybe that was due to the fact that you had the rushing nested, rushing nested all of idols that you had to go through. Or my favorite, my, again, my Roman empire now for this episode is Rome, but up in the well, right? Like there were all of these wonderful moments. Gabe with the box crashing down.

I mean, obviously everything that happened on Gata. Gata? Gata? Gata. Gata. Gotta be cool. Gatica. Gatica.

Gatica. It just, it was not how I expected the premiere to go. And I'm so happy that I was wrong. Yeah. Gabby, what about you? What were your thoughts about 47 in terms of expectations versus reality? It's almost in comparison to Liana's shirt versus my shirt from last week. Shirt versus shirt. Yeah, they they're here to play. Definitely. They brought

a lot of energy. I wasn't quite sure what the mess level would be i think i i tweeted before the season i was like there's a lot of white collar type people on this season and so i was a bit like i was joking but i was a little bit worried it would be very like like oh yes i'll circle back with you on that all right yeah her my Let's talk offline about this. But honestly, they were a lot like more messy and loose than than I expected, which which honestly, maybe I, it's, I mean, I will say my one thing is like, I do feel like it's the cast is always is within this certain age range and I would love to see more of a variety. And I do think the people that were outside of the Norman age, like we have like Sue or Saul, like they stood out to me as interesting people.

So I really hope they stick around for a little bit. So that's my only like, you know, I hope that it's not just a story, a bunch of like 20 somethings. And I'm saying that as somebody who played when I was a 20 something. Yeah, well, you know, then best of all, right, that like, it's fine. I want what I wasn't. I mean, here's the thing. Look, white collar, blue collar. When you go through mud, it all ends up being the same. So we're all, maybe that's another reason why the mud happens. It's like, we are sort of washed clean of the outside world and allowing to be our primal selves as survivor players. I mean, what's really interesting is that I think if you look at

preseason expectations, I don't feel like a lot necessarily surprised me like we knew gabe and rome were going to overplay we knew that john lovett would be looked at as maybe a little snaky and be very self-deprecating and andy had a lot of winners equity coming in but he did tell me in his interview that his biggest piece of kryptonite is overthinking. And, oh, golly, we got a hefty spoonful of that in the opening few days. I really liked it overall. I mean, we'll certainly get into the decision. Probably one of the most surprising vote outcomes we've seen in the new era. I think my biggest piece of criticism is that you have two hours.

You have one hour, 25 minutes of airtime. We got to see the entire cast to me like that's no excuse i know that they probably were a little surprised that two beware advantages were found in the first three days but like as entertaining as rome nearly falling down the well and gabe having the least conspicuous or most conspicuous idol search ever was entertaining, it detracted away from getting to know like nearly a quarter of the cast as a cost. Okay, let me tell you what I know about Caroline. She likes Sue.

What do I know about Genevieve? She likes Rome. What do I know about Sierra? Nothing? And she went to tribal council. She started the fire, right? Yeah. So I completely echo that, especially Genevieve felt one confessional and then she vanished. I mean, I was I was looking for her in the back. I was like, where is Genevieve? We are on Genevieve watch because I don't know where this woman is she has disappeared from my television screen Tiana where she yeah where her yep yep exactly and well even even Saul to your point

Gabby like he stands out I think the biggest thing we saw him do was show how big he was by pulling that boat but outside of that yeah an area of the man would it be agreed yeah he big boy well he was kind of part of the Rome watch group right like at least that group before he was sort of a part of that we got to hear him talk a little bit about that but I totally agree and especially when you have so much time I think that is maybe the reason why I'm a little bit frustrated by that because you have two full hours now that being said I understand why they want to show all of the Gabe idol hunt or all of the Rome idol hunt. And then obviously there's everything going on with Andy.

So, okay. I understand that there were, there was just so much to show that perhaps there just wasn't enough time to squeeze in some of the other players. What do you think about the beware advantages this season it seems like we're still kind of going with the scavenger hunt especially knowing now that they have 90 minutes they can allow them to do a series of tasks but these are like more naturalistic it's hey go to the mountainside and pull down this vine hey go break this piece of driftwood i think my favorite gabby was the wash off the log to reveal the invisible ink though i feel like like you are hoping that there is no rainstorm in the first

week of the game otherwise it's going to be like what happened with gabe or what he said it happened where like someone stumbled upon go to the well they're like wait dig at the well what the hell does this mean yeah i i really like this style of advantage finding. It's giving escape room, which is something that I love. Like it's giving immersive gameplay. Very, very fun. It did start to feel a little long with the boxes within boxes within boxes. I laughed out loud by the time the third box was revealed i was like are you

kidding me um the only because like it does kind of mechanically take a long time to do and then to show in the episode which therefore eats into the um the stuff like liana said like maybe i don't know one way to circumvent that would maybe be to not have a certain level of it available until after the challenge or something. So it's like, maybe you weren't motivated to do it right away until you were in danger. Like, I'm not totally sure. I don't have the solution. But it is just notable that there was a lot of like box and key and lock and key hunting in the episode, including the journey. So it was just like,

it was just a lot. Oh yeah. I didn't even think about that because if every, okay. So if every idol box had been found and they had completed it to the fullest idol, that would have been nine total keys to find plus. The four,

four, four. Well, so it's four and three. it was several right on the journey plus nine that's 16 keys that could have been found you're holding a piano here right like that's too many keys i i look i thought it was funny it also reminded me a little bit of a wig reveal situation yeah just keep taking off the w You know, you got the little pussycat wig underneath. Who did that?

I feel like someone did the wig reveal under the, maybe it was Monet X Change, did like the wig reveal on top of the wig reveal on top of the wig reveal. Right. So it was giving that, that was very entertaining. But yeah, I mean, just so, so, so much time. The other thing too, to bring up the hero's journey,

how did, what did we think about that in terms of pivoting away from savvy sweat? I mean, what I would say is it's tough because there was a moment right at the beginning when Asia and TK hop off the boat. And maybe it's in my head because TK had really flagged Asia to me in the preseason as like, oh, we're locked in. I want to work with her. And like, she introduces herself and says, oh, TK, right? And then the relationship has to immediately turn adversarial when it's like, okay, now hunt for these keys. And I do feel like there was a little bit of opportunity lost there. Now it was entertaining, especially when Asia, true to her basketball player nature, does try to box out TK and like really try to get in there.

And that would have been amazing if she just swipes the key out from under him. I think in retrospect, especially knowing to your point that this basically was that that that bridge in Paris that had a bunch of locks and keys on it, like in an episode of Survivor. I maybe could have done with a trim down a little bit, but in the moment it was at least an interesting back and forth. Yeah, I think it, I don't think it was my favorite. I think it's good that they tried something besides sweat and savvy. What I feel like this task lost was that sweat and savvy has this component where either a couple team members are working on something together. So they have an opportunity to bond or be left behind exactly yeah um and then there's a choice element to it so it's like what

do you think your strengths are or on other seasons when we've had games like the season where they had to pick a card and then lie like the one that jolenski did um there's a social element to it or there's a lot. So I just felt like this didn't have kind of the choices that we like to see players have to make, which is a bit safer than I thought, you know, the survivor wanted to play. I thought Jeff really liked putting them in those predicaments. So I was kind of surprised, relieved for Asia that her tribe like believed her when she got back that there wasn't some other game going on. Well, it certainly helps when you have Teenie being like, now, come on. I only know Asia having met her five minutes ago, but I think we should inherently trust every single word she says.

Yes. Love that. Love Teenie asia as as what is warming and but yeah i feel like it lost a little bit of like you said it turned adversarial immediately so it doesn't even get give them a chance to kind of do any kind of strategizing or social maneuvering with each other make some kind of choice or be invested in each other. And then, but the task itself was pretty cool. I liked the idea of the actual, the hunt. It's just, I was surprised that there wasn't a social cost or something or choice associated with it. That's what I was expecting, Gabby. I thought that they were going to have to get there and then make some decision. Maybe it's, we split the supplies or, you know, we do the versus.

Oh yeah, do like a friend or foe thing, right? Of like, you can choose to share the supplies or if one of you chooses to steal it, then you get all of it. Right, exactly. So some other element apart from just, yeah, go find keys in the woods, right? Because that is sort of boring because at least the benefit of the idol hunts where you're trying to find the keys is oh is the rest of the tribe gonna find you oh you know are they gonna be able to suss out what you're doing are you gonna be socially ostracized yes and both counts this episode yes

and yes but with this it was obviously yeah you just get to go search and then get lost in the woods for a bit right and that just seems to be the, like, that was it. And so that made it, I think a bit boring. So I wanted to add some element to it, or maybe again, there was no choice to take an advantage for yourself. So for example, you have four keys that you need to find in the woods, three help you get the supplies. And then the fourth one is an idol or an extra vote right so something that goes back to gabby's idea of choice where you oh i like that yeah incentivize someone could you do something yeah where you like risk your vote and within a certain amount of time you have to find a key and it's like okay if you find one key you get the the machete you unlock two keys you get the pot

unlock three you get the flame and if you really want to go for gusto then the thisete you unlock two keys you get the pot unlock three you get the flame and if you really want to go for gusto then the this gets you like the clue to the first idol or something like that yeah the first key to unlock the box but then you need several more keys to unlock the actual idol but just yeah just some something else something else i don't mind that it being a hero's journey and being one person but i want to see them put in some predicament that requires a choice right that's the fun part seeing players make choices calling all sellers salesforce is hiring account executives to join us on the cutting edge of technology here innovation isn't a buzzword. It's a way of life.

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i'm not as all as all good glory holes do you upgrade upgrade as you go deeper. It's bigger, stronger. I'm out of here. Well, and I also will say, listen, Gabe was all over the place, quite literally, in this episode. A little bit of justice for Gabe, because TK comes upon him on the mountain and is like, no, I can't believe that he would claim that he just found this without a key. Like, this was a blue ring sticking up on a vine 10 feet in the air looks pretty damn out of nowhere to me i think if i was wandering around

and look maybe that area is not necessarily where you're exploring to forage for anything for natural roughage but like it's sticking out like a damn sore thumb it would be an attraction to me certainly whether or not i found a beware advantage or not yeah yeah i think gabe could have played it off a little bit more like dude i just saw this up here let's find out let's let's yeah but it i don't know maybe it was he just didn't sell it right you know that's why there was a distrust right like the the lie itself is inherently believable but it's the way that you have to just be so excited or so, you know, right? Like over the top.

He wasn't rad enough. Yeah, exactly. He was just like, yeah, I don't know. We like found this key. What do you think, man? What do we do? Right. You gotta be like, oh my God, we just found this key.

Like he was super excited or something, you know, he said sell it a bit more. But I also love TK's reaction, which is just what the fuck is that? Like, like no mystification at it whatsoever and maybe that was gabe trying to meet him at that energy level of like yeah what what is that instead of being like oh my god dude if he take if tk came in with that energy maybe gabe would match it otherwise tk was like what what is that i don't get it why this has been a wacky day for me

yeah yeah well maybe he was just like i've had enough keys i found enough keys i'm good on keys leave the keys where they be like i don't need them all right well we need to get into the crux of this episode all things andy gabby i need to get your opinions on just the enigma, lovingly, that this man has become over two hours of Survivor 47 so far. Oh, Andy, I see so much of myself in him in both positives and, you know, maybe some of the, I don't want to say negatives, but... Constructive criticisms. Yes, areas of potential improvement. Yeah, but... Constructive criticisms.

Yes, areas of potential improvement. Yeah, do a SWOT analysis on Andy. True white collar fashion. I don't even know what that is, Mike. Oh, strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, and threats. Oh my God. You fit in perfectly on the Bata tribe or Gata. Sorry, I don't know what any of them are yeah um okay so andy first let me say let me say andy and i we're not close friends i've crossed

pads with him in buffalo new york he's from buffalo it's where I'm doing my PhD we've crossed paths we are bisexual yeah just want to say it's okay no uh we are bisexual we are biracial Filipinos and we are by ourselves in our mind freaking out a little bit thinking too hard about what other people think of us. What a sweetheart who had a really rough start. Nobody wants to start their survivor journey that way. And I think what we hear from him in the initial moments is he is at a place in life where maybe he's proud of himself for, you know, my whole life I felt like I haven't really fit in. And now, and I actually found my way by fitting in by just being myself. And then you start to get the paranoia of survivor and you start feeling like that older version of yourself, which he, which he says on the show, it's like, well, I thought I was going to be this like new,

awesome version of myself, but of course, and he seems to be aware of this, being any version of yourself is not any kind of like end goal and state that you stay in statically. Like, you still carry all the baggage and the insecurities from your past, even if you have grown stronger from that. And it's really easy to trigger those things in this really unusual, things in this really unusual unnatural situation and so you know we see kind of this spiral happen and i've been there like you know you can take the smallest thing like somebody not cheering when you crack open a coconut and you spiral and you attribute all these things to it that is not really what it means um but you it's a spiral but his spirals happening on national television and i mean i think it's pretty surprising because from

the outside he actually he's a very good looking big but a kind of buff looking guy. Like he seems confident. And I think it was, it's surprising to see someone, even that like a physical guy that should be pretty safe in those early days of survivor can suddenly feel insecure because he's, he's trying to track people's perception of him through their cheers about coconuts or through other little social cues. And as someone that's studying social psychology, I can tell you that people are very attuned to like negative anything that could be misconstrued as negative. And especially people who are maybe more insecure are often interpret even neutral cues as negative because they see it as this kind of like confirming all their worst beliefs about themselves. And so I definitely like saw that happening with Andy. Right. And it's hard to watch because you're

like, you haven't done anything wrong. Like, don't worry. And it's just a spiral. you haven't done anything wrong. Like, don't worry. And it's just a spiral. Right. And I think it's also when one small thing happens that sets you off on this path, right? Like a box down a hill. Exactly. Making a lot of noise. It's okay. Jeff loves him. So like, at least, you know, we can rest easy with that. Oh, that was like, we went from like spicy Jeff to just like uncaring dad, Jeff, like Jack Donaghy with the there there with the broom to Liz Lemon of like all right are you okay I said something he's fine that is a challenge yeah there was a whole that whole interaction was very bizarre from both sides uh but I mean to put myself in Andy's shoes as well I can imagine if you've been a fan of the show for so long, you've been trying to get on the show for so long, the immense pressure that you must

be under as well. So I think that speak of the tumbling down, right? You have this strong force really just pushing and not sleeping also can contribute to this. So I think that there's just so many different factors that can really contribute to the spiral. Yeah. I mean, from a mental health perspective, especially isolation even magnifies all those qualities that Gabby was speaking about further. And certainly it seems from the Rachel of it all that Andy was feeling increasingly isolated that the reason why he woke her up in the first place was because he was feeling isolated and it was only magnified when she gave an understandably adverse reaction to being like, all right, I'll work with you.

Just don't wake me up at 3 a.m. and pull me aside. And then he proceeds to do exactly that. So again, I absolutely understand, especially from like an internal monologue perspective, how you can make a mountain out of a molehill, how you can turn every little thing into something that can be weaponized against you all that being said what it resulted in was pretty damn incredible like

could not stop watching i had to get eye droppers of water just because i wasn't blinking at all of this unraveling in front of me. This was wild. I don't know if Tiana was indicating her edit or if she was like trying to suggest something to Andy by being like, stop it, stop it, stop talking. Because I just have never seen something like this before outside of like a brand enhance situation where Andy is just like, oh, time to do my final words. Here's everything that's going on with my game

in front of 17 other people. Yeah, I think that was the thing for me was that, okay, you have all the camp life stuff. Okay, obviously he's struggling. You know, hopefully he'll be able to get his feet back underneath him. But it's really the challenge where everything seems to just slip away

from the moment that, you know, he's got, you know, maybe he's feeling lightheaded or cramping, whatever the situation. Okay. So like some medical thing. And then he starts talking and then he gets back up. And then the whole thing with John, that was the moment for me where I was just like, oh my God, he did not just say that. My best friend is John and I'm ready to throw him under the bus.

Like what? I was, it was amazing television absolutely amazing i couldn't believe he was it they were inside thoughts that that came out of his mouth with the i think he was still melting down and not realizing it like obviously you know he kind of started okay he was like i was overheating and it's like oh yeah totally get it and it's like pause or you know really actually it was jeff egging him on he's like you seem emotional it's like oh no don't don't take advantage of me paranoia is a drug and jeff's dealing it out like it's candy first taste is free yeah it Yeah, it was, it, it, it's, it was hard to watch because

it was his, his thoughts made sense for inside his head or even in front of his tribe maybe. But what, what really made it difficult or, or like bite your nails was it was in front of the other tribes too, that that was hard to see. I think I also want to say as, as someone that's been a player, those first few days in front of the cameras and all of that, I don't think you're used to it yet. And sometimes like if Jeff prompts you to say something, you feel like you have to respond or like, you feel like you just feel like

you're on the show and maybe they're not as like media trained yet where like later in the season you know they know how to kind of give those snappy confessionals they know what to say how to say it in a cool way it's like he's new to being on tv as well and and there's hundreds of cameras in front of you and it's like maybe in that moment your brain doesn't register like i don't actually have to tell the whole story right now because you've been in casting for months and they're like tell us more tell us more it's like you don't have to speak right then but so i'll you know i could see maybe that being part of it that's very valid i just realized, like, while this felt fairly unprecedented, it really shouldn't have. Because let's look at the box office hit of the summer.

Was Andy not just undergoing the plot of Inside Out 2, where he's entering this brand new scenario? All these new people and his emotions are, trying to be fairly regulated he's been able to get everything down you know he said the old version of him was much like riley in that first movie where happiness and sadness learned they had to work in tandem but everything seems copacetic but then when he's thrown into this new situation there's a new set of emotions that come in and there's envy in the form of oh my god john got cheers when he cut open the coconut there's embarrassment in the form of oh my god i collapsed and had this big public display but most importantly there is anxiety who takes the entire console for that three minute

period and just leads to verbal diarrhea it makes so much sense. Pixar predicted it, Liana. Exactly. We should have known that this was coming. Come on. Obviously, Survivor 40 several is the sequel to Inside Out 2. Mike is plugging Inside Out 2, a movie that's already out of theaters much like terry was plugging this like a robot robot yeah a wild robot movie during the commercial it's like but inside out 2 is not coming out much like survivor we let anxiety take over sometimes you could see anxiety take the console here on inside out 2 now on disney plus i can tell that you i can tell that you're a dad now mike because like i haven't seen inside out 2 we we ended up going to see it but then we cut out after the first half an hour because Asher

felt, and I didn't realize that five-year-olds can feel this, he actually felt cringe at the embarrassment character. And so we had to cut out of the movie because he felt too much cringe. Wait, wait, wait. It's secondhand embarrassment? Yeah. There's so much to dig into. So first of all, your five-year-old felt secondhand embarrassment yeah there's so much to dig into so first of all your five-year-old felt secondhand embarrassment but you're his father does he not feel secondhand embarrassment all the time all right i set you up there for the slam dunk i can't deny that that's

an alley-oop but the second which is a genuine question did you actually ever finish it or are you just going based on the first 30 minutes of the film genuinely interested in it we'll see what happens i'm assuming it was a happily ever after and the emotions all figure out how to work together in tandem and i imagine it'll be the same thing for andy as well yeah right i mean look good tie back he got a second life here right and there's i can't take credit for this i saw it on reddit but someone said something along the lines of you know andy was talking about how oh i only had four friends in high school john was like oh well wouldn't that be nice and four friends kept him safe so there's definitely this coming full circle moment with with andy and i'm well he can't be in a tribe that's larger than

five people is what you're saying correct he's a majority of four so as long as four is in the majority then I think he'll be okay five I guess including himself uh but look who knows this could be a new lease on life I've seen people compare him to you know the Emily path the Banu path right like where do you go from here after this very chaotic and intense first three days yeah gabby how surprised were you by the john boot and do you feel from our outsider perspective it was the right decision okay i think i'm uh on an island here because i was not surprised um i think okay i'm sorry i guess i'm gonna be barred from a pod save america forever which i was totally lined up to to be a friend of the pod on but like i actually don't

think john capitalized on the situation as well as he could have so i think you know it was like i think he had the potential to be a good player and i will say if i had been on his tribe i i think i'm a little older than some of the people on his tribe now i would have do you know what vine is to work with him yeah why were the gen z's saying that because actually it was our older people vine was around for us so like you guys actually don't know what vine is um maybe they were genuinely curious like do you know what vine is because we don't they're like oh ancient one at 41 do you know what vine is um yeah a little bit terrifying as like a 31 year old now that like 26 year olds might one day be like gabby like have you ever heard of tiktok um but british i i don't know why 26 year olds are maybe it's like that thing where like if you see a word written you think it's pronounced

a different way until it's actually said exactly yeah yeah yeah all this is to say i he would have i think been actually a good alliance member i think if they if the other tribe members were savvy i think they should have continued to work with him so in that way i could see it being surprising because i think he had potential in the game in the three days that we saw i wasn't that surprised because and obviously we didn't see everything john tried to do to try to save himself but like in my head if someone has that big of a blow up and kind of paints a target on themselves and you aren't able to capitalize on that, I don't know that you kind of, yeah, I don't know that he capitalized on the situation as well as I thought

he could have. And that might be because he felt a lot of loyalty towards Andy, in which case I say shout out to you, John, like he seems like a lovely person. And like I said, like I've met Andy and he's a lovely person. And so thanks for saving my bi squared friend. might have been what prevented him from maybe he should have thrown andy under the bus right um just as andy said he was willing to do to john so i wasn't that surprised or i don't really feel like john was robbed or anything like that because i think without the andy blow up maybe john is the vote there's a lot of content about he's not clicking with them he's he's older he's whatever so then actually you're handed this opportunity on a silver platter with andy having like the blow up of a century and you still can't like switch the target off of you i i think that john lovett might have done a little better with more time to dig his feet in in the game but i don't feel like he was robbed

uh if see because i don't i feel like he failed to capitalize on that situation. Right. I think it also, I love the fact of pointing out like, okay, well, if the Andy meltdown hadn't have happened, what would have been the outcome, right? Is it still a John boot regardless because he is failing to interact or, you know, with the tribe and really just can't connect with them, which is so funny to me because i didn't know john before this i was not familiar with pod today i get all my political content from twitch streamers so like i was not up to date on this oh boy but he i really enjoyed him like he was very fine and maybe it does go to this age difference is now you know getting getting up there in age as a 30 we're millennials i know we're millennials right we're like the old people now but it was just i i thought he was so fun i really really enjoyed him so for me it was like okay

what's not working why are you not able to you know lock in with people maybe more vine references were needed i don't know but something just felt like it wasn't gelling he had the equivalent of six seconds of airtime uh basically to get across i mean i'll communicate what john has expressed to me which is that he does feel in a weird way that the andy blow up did lead to his boot because he felt that, and I definitely see your point, Gabby, that like that is a very easy thing to go after somebody else of like, this guy is a loose cannon. I'm more reliable.

Keep me over him. And certainly that was being argued. But what John was arguing and maybe again, maybe the impetus is on him because he assumed too much was, okay, the minute Andy did that, he presented himself as not a threat because this is a guy that completely tanked you know a lot of equity in that moment with everyone else in the game so why would you want to get rid of that over someone who is more

threatening in the form of me something else that he expressed which is really interesting to me, is he said that maybe the edit embellished a bit of the generational gap. He actually said that he was in tight with Annika and Rachel, which does beg the question to me as to annika and rachel as a pair sam and sierra as a pair and kind of like him and andy left by default and if i'm annika and rachel if i'm looking at a possible like two to one split at the next vote i would much rather have john as my swing than andy i agree yeah i i want to go back to what you said about the being a threat because i feel like it's I do feel like that's a bit of a misreading of a game where I don't think you should look at threats to win the game on day three. I think you need to look at threats to your immediate game and able and ability to socially maneuver. And so if I were John, I would have flipped the thinking, OK, maybe Andy kind of neutralize himself as a, as a threat to win, but which also, I would say, I don't think you can say that on day three, but sure. Let's go along with that for now. And then I would flip that and say, so maybe he's not going to win, but that means,

you know, now everyone's like, he's so unreliable. How could you have him as a Alliance part partner, even if you don't believe that. But i just feel like um i i don't really buy that andy's blow up would have cemented john's getting sent home i know i wasn't there but um i i i don't know to me it seems kind of it seems like a typical vote almost like they kept strength over a really smart strategic player that that i guess guess maybe I didn't know if he had gelled with them. But but I feel like I feel like we saw sort of like a strong, but maybe strategically less reliable person in Jelinski get sent home last season. So that could have happened again here. And it didn't, which is fine.

And I'm excited to see Andy continue. I am disappointed to lose John Lovett, who I would have been a really great storyteller. But I think more could have been done, perhaps. I think how he thought he was going to play was fact-checked against how we would play and i i think he's an extremely strategic savvy and like a good observer and i didn't see those skills like utilized to the max maybe if they hadn't gone to the first

tribal he might have avoided that fate right a little bit more time maybe to try to like really cement something with annika and rachel so that it felt more like a three than a two two two the other argument about andy not you know oh he lost all his win equity right in the first three days that they'll they're always then they're always gonna vote you out over over Andy right so why on earth would you ever keep Andy around because all right well he's already the goat that's going to get dragged to the final three you know whatever right like you can just use whatever arguments you need uh but based on at least the logic that we saw on the show it did come down to just

strength I mean at least that was what we heard whether or not that was the full decision that's the show decided to portray it as yeah I mean what I also find interesting least that was what we heard, whether or not that was the full decision. That's what the show decided to portray it as. Yeah. I mean, what I also find interesting is that like the start of this season, maybe it's just because it aired right after the premiere, but I get a lot of Big Brother 26 vibes from it. And I mean that in a very loving way. I've been loving the chaos that Big Brother 26 providing, which is like, is there any

elite gameplay? No, but everyone is like trying something. And it's also leading to like big personal dramatic moments as well. I mean, a lot of people were making this comparison that like Andy's Matt Chad meltdown was Angela's crazy eyes rant. And similarly, we could see much like Angela is through this week. Andy's somehow survived vote after vote because there's always going to be a bigger fish to take care of.

And I think he will. Yeah. Well, I, that's the thing. I'm really hoping that Andy can recover from this or as Jordan Kalish sent me a screenshot from the survivor Facebook page, Adam, a lot of people were calling him Adams. Why? I saw that on Twitter even. i was like who is adam does andy auto correct to adam do we have to talk to tim cook i don't know we do we now have to talk to tim cook put in a bug report and and we haven't even touched on like the dozens of players who had a bad start and bounce back really well.

Oh, yeah. Aubrey and Gabler. Matthew Maverick O'Brien. Gabler wanted to be voted out in the very first episode. Remember? Like he was like, no, vote me out. Vote me out. Okay.

So to me, the writing on the wall for Andy, look, it's in washable paint, right? Like I think that there's a universe. Throw some water on that log. Yeah, exactly. You're just, you know, hope for the rainstorm, I guess. Go dig in the well. I think we'll see where things go from here. I think it was a very exciting two hours.

But also I think that there was, there were a lot of monumentous events that happened, especially in terms of the hero's journey and the idol finds and of course, Andy's situation. So I'm reserving the BB 26 comparisons for now. I think let's see where things go over the next couple of weeks. Well, where we're going is to our typical B&B fair and let's keep talking. John Lovett here let's get into our pre-season predictions and how we thought Mr. Lovett would do on Survivor Liana did you love it John Lovett's

chances on the season how did you think he would do in the pre-season okay so I did have John Lovett going pre-jury okay I got you are also barred from Lovett or leave it. Right. Yeah, exactly. Gabby and I are both not invited. I did. Okay. I did have him going a bit further than first boot, which I think, yeah, there's only one direction really you could go. But I said that John survived the first GATA tribal council due to his deadpan charisma. But the second time he was not so lucky, John formed a close bond with Andy, but the Nexus of Power, aka Sam and Annika, were nervous about John flipping come the merge. In only four episodes, John managed to get a staggering 40 confessionals. john was jeff's favorite

who was clearly sad when john was voted out he honors him by calling him love it on the way out his ally was andy and his enemy was sam and annika oh look at this liana right on the money i know i think you've earned a spot on that guest list now for being, unless you got spoilers from John Lovett himself, maybe you are already a friend of the podcast. Shh. I'll never tell. I'll never reveal your sources. Yeah.

Shh. All right. Well, I guess I'll, I'll join myself on the blacklist with the two of you. I also had John Lovett going for sure. Okay. The whole.

It's just a shame too, because they, they were about, they were going to invite us on the three of us together. I know. also had john lovett going for sure okay the whole it's just a shame too because they they were about they were going to invite us on the three of us together i know and it's sad now that we've ruined our chances of going on the political package deal yes bbp that's what they call us b and b and p b and b and p uh so john lo, I said, despite him being open about being a podcaster, his tribe doesn't really care, instead drawn in immediately by his self-deprecating jokes.

We'll get a whole segment about how uncomfortable he is in the wild, culminating in a moment of triumph where everyone cheers as he does something simple, like taking an aqua dump. True to his word, he'll hunt out his gays and theys early on, joining up with the God of Women. When they go to their first tribal council, he'll hunt out his gays and they is early on joining up with the god

of women but when they go to their first tribal council he'll turn the tribe against annika worried about her possibly having an advantage when the swap hits john gets put in the minority assuming he's well spoken and strategic based on his job he becomes the easy target of gerrymandering on his new tribe as he's now placed in the ponderosa district his ally was rachel his enemy was sam then his reputation oh okay if only the electoral college existed for survivor votes i mean it's the jury not that yeah oh my gosh alright Gabby the gavel the gabful is in your hands you get to determine

who was more on the money about how John Lovett would do in the preseason the gabful I have to give it to Liana and that's because Mike thought that the podcast and his reputation would matter a lot more than it did i'm so sorry i'm so sorry to to john and and love it or leave it and pod save america because they're they don't they get their news from tiktok they don't listen to

their we're millennials they don't given i don't from tiktok they don't listen to their we're millennials they don't given i don't listen to pod save america but i will say i did text a friend of mine when this when he was announced and i said did you ever listen to pod save america and she said not anymore but i used to okay and that i feel like was the minimum that he needed and did not get. Yeah. I mean, that's the thing, right?

When he like canvases everyone being like, have you heard of positive American? And he's like, I think I've heard of it. Like when that's the maximum amount of engagement that the tribe has with your podcast. I mean, it's good on the one hand because it's not like now people aren't saying

like, Oh, he's so famous. We got to get him out. But on the other hand, because it's not like now people aren't saying like, oh, he's so famous. We got to get him out. But on the other hand, a little bit of a shot to the ego, even though it seems like from what John was talking about with his own job, there were enough shots taken to that ego even before he stepped foot on the beach. Yeah, but I think he had a shot to the ego. And I think I think he I think he thought he didn't want people to target him because of this reputation. I think he thought he didn't want people to target him because of this reputation.

But then when nobody cared about that reputation, I think he was like, oh, no, but how do I like prove myself now? Again, I'm getting more and more blacklisted. But you know what I have loved, though? Register to vote, people. Shout out. Yes. Shout out. Vote Save America. Register to vote.

I mean, I live in a blue state, so my vote literally doesn't matter. But to those of you in the swing states, go vote. So shout out, John. Shout out to Obama. Shout out. Yeah, should John have shouted out Obama like Jeff Kent did in his final words? Yes. In the exact same way. Exactly. Yeah. Obama like Jeff Kent did in his final words yes exactly yeah these these people were I was in high

school when Obama was in office like these people were in middle school when Obama was in office so they they don't it's I'm so scared John that you think they don't care they're like they don't care they don't well I don't yeah do you know i don't belly roll i don't care about obama well i given i don't think he probably didn't tell them that he speech wrote for obama i don't know did he maybe it would have actually helped but my point is john was on the wrong tribe i feel bad for him he was like he needed to you know what i wish john and sue could have been on the same tribe that i would have watched i don't know if you uh heard something over the summer i don't know if

that's why i said i would like to watch i would like to see it right yeah there's a difference between like i'm just curious to see how this would go and i think it would like be better for john in that situation listen my i also want to say i my friend made this joke i can't take credit for it but like survivors viewership leans contrary to like maybe the what we see on twitter sometimes with the viewer and the viewership like leans conservative yeah as as leona knows from casual corner and and then we have like i i at least occupy this like little space online of like people people like on the on the left and my friend said we gotta bring in the democrats we gotta find a way to bring in the democrats the dems the libs we gotta bring him in and now

they're not watching because john lovett got out in the first episode i see all these tweets they're like i tuned in i'm not gonna watch we're losing the left people we're losing the blue wave the blue wave's not coming to survivor is it safe to say that gotta own the libs by taking out john yeah yeah they did yeah just gonna make survivor great again yeah i just i love the idea though that the the gabby's hopes of liberalifying the audience of survivor rest on john love it of all people someone you are not familiar with but you're like we but if he stayed on the show imagine what would happen oh there's a contingent listen there's a contingent of liberals who are with their 1.5 million listeners or whatever of his podcast that they they are not changing their opinions on survivor now and it's a loss it's a huge should the issue

have been that they stunt cast not celebrities but listeners specifically of pod save america and much like agentini filled the tribe around john with that yes they needed they needed like a 37 year old woman who has like an I'm with her sticker on her bumper sticker and like is this the CEO of a like women's empowerment can you just buy that that would be great i'd love to yeah everything has a price liana yeah no right yeah that's who they needed she would have loved john i know she would have loved john when john john i wrote for hillary clinton she'd be like oh my god chillery clinton we love her pokemon go to the polls yes i'm chilling in the rapids like that's that's who we need you're picking up what i'm putting down so sorry john but it's we got two things in survivor we've got conservatives and we've got the far left and we need the liberals and we've got tech people

and so i don't know where they a lot of white colored versus far left versus tech people that's a season people are not clued they are not yeah i'm sorry they're not listening to to the politics podcast but anyway that's enough i've been so controversial i feel can't they put it on in the background they're busy swatting mike they're busy swatting a lot. They're busy swatting. Swatting takes a lot of brain power. That's right. They don't have time for that.

They're building an app. Yeah, they're building apps, Mike. They're going to save the world through their apps, okay? They're building women's empowerment apps. Oh, you know what? Actually, I think we should make like a new version of a mindless game like Flappy Bird where it's like unlock a box and within that box is another box. Yes. Okay, wait, I'm not gonna lie, though, I would play that game. And I hope that it's so minimal skill, all you do is just click, but you get to open boxes, and it gives

you that reward. And so I feel that, you know, gratification pleasure of doing nothing, essentially, but it's Sisyphean, the cycle continuesew because it's the gratification of i unlock something but then you're immediately left with an obstacle right another box so i honestly if there's any app developers out there hit me up are there are there any oh yeah i guess they don't listen to podcasts they're all on survivor they're all on survivor right now they can't make apps yes exactly you need annika your project, to get this done, Mike. Okay. Yeah, she'll be like, okay, I watched a YouTube video about an app. Here's how you make it.

I know how to do it. You just hold your fingers up and then you count. Okay. Rachel was real for that, though, because I just learned that recently. And I was like, they should use this on Survivor. And then spookily, she mentioned it on survivor. She's so right with the fingers.

That was cool. Put it into the universe. Yeah. Sundial said, I don't need to, I don't need to stick a stick in the sand. Just hold your hand up, stare at the sun.

That's all you need to do. Look directly at the sun. You'll be fine. Okay. So we are going to play the game for this week and we are staying on the topic of john love it okay you've heard we gotta we gotta milk it we've got we got one episode that's all we got all right you've heard of love it or leave it but have you heard of love it or love it because that's the game that we're playing today so So I have to give credit to Pouya.

He came up with the idea. So shout out Pouya. Thank you very much. So essentially the way this game is going to work is I have pulled quotes from either John Lovett, survivor fame or John Lovett's actor fame. So, Oh,

that's a person. Oh no, Gabby. Oh no. today is the day that gabby learns who john lovett as we all do there comes a time in every person's life where they inevitably acknowledge his existence is this like the john favreau thing because that was confusing too oh very confusing can we pull can we pull up a picture of john lovitz just the center i think gabby might recognize him once she sees a picture of him yeah i mean you probably know him from like rat race from um the wedding singer snl yes he's a he's an actor i see him i believe a league of their own lovitz okay okay got it this is maybe a generational game as well i'm learning I believe a league of their own. I know John Lovitz. Okay. Okay. Got it.

This is maybe a generational game as well. I'm learning. Yes. John Lovitz. I'm only 31. I'm a baby. There he is. Is John Lovitz the vine of comedic actors?

We shall see. Okay. So I'm going to read you a quote from that was said, I assume I found them online. So look, we're just going to chalk it up to the internet, uh, from either John Lovett or John Lovett. Okay. So podcaster, speechwriter or actor, right? Those are our two Johns that we're talking about. So Mike, we're going to go ahead and we're going to start with you. Your first quote is, I heard you call me immature earlier. Well, you're just a big poop head. Was that said by John Lovett or John Lovett?

This game is already worth the price of admission. Because like, I could imagine both of them being sick. Because John Lovitz has worked in like some rather juvenile stuff. Look, yeah, you got to make a paycheck in Hollywood. But I could see John Lovitz saying this in such a dry way. I'm going to go with Lovitz with a Z. That is correct. That was said by John Lovitzitz in something or just like as a person well that's a good question uh you should ask brainyquote.com

most of these interviews uh yeah i don't know i got such bad journalistic integrity he was talking to conan it was a conan o'brien interview gabby thank you very much obviously i know where it's from yo just a big poop head that's wow that's good gabby you didn't know who he was until like no i know who he's now that i see his face one of those like don't know the name until you see the face people. I know. Okay, Gabby, we're going to go to you. Your quote is I'm also probably your smartest guest.

Love it or love it. Love it the podcaster. Okay, we love the gumption but we don't like the answer because that is incorrect. Unfortunately, no, that was also John Lovitz. That was your question because yeah, he was on a talk show, but sounds like he was on a podcast. I know, but I thought maybe that it would be so obvious that actually it was right, but I was wrong. Right. Okay. Let's go back to Mike Bloom. Your quote is the problem with the economy.

Isn't that people aren't paying their fair share of taxes. Oh no. Now I'm having a case of the Gabby. Now I'm having a case of that. It's contagious. Cause now I'm thinking like, okay, don't say the case of anything. I'm having a case of that. It's contagious. Because now I'm thinking like, okay. Don't say the case of anything I'm associated with is contagious, Mike. Slander. I got a case of the Gabby's. I mean, like, that's the thing.

Lovett is obviously the go-to answer because it's talking about something as serious and as societal as the economy. But could it be John Lovitz saying that? Who's to say he's not an expert on the economy? I will go Occam's razor here and go with Lovitz the podcaster. It was Lovitz the actor. This man needs a Nobel Peace Prize. This is an expert on everything. You don't have to be an expert to talk to talk about things i think that i've

made that abundantly clear over the past 10 years yeah exactly you're the poster child of that mike gabby we're going back to you your quote is i do see your point but to me i'm just a mouse compared to the president of the united states. Oh, boy. Oh, God. John. I love it. Oh, God. Oh. Oh, my gosh.

Okay. Well, this is not my answer. Again, the obvious answer. Who would he be saying I see your point to? Like a fellow podcaster? A pencil. A fellow podcaster, Jon Favreau, or a fellow actorcaster john favreau or fellow actor john favreau um could john love it have said it to john favreau the director on the set of iron man oh my gosh well john favreau the

actor is is john favreau the director right are they They're the same person. On Iron Man? They were on Iron Man together? Oh, this is all starting to come together. The pieces. They're all coming together. I'm starting to see what's going on here. I'm going to answer Lovitz with a Z because I think

Leon is trolling us. Gabby, you saw right through me. I'm absolutely trolling you. That was John Lovitz with a Z. Mike, we're going back to you. Your quote is basically half the time my butt is like, what is this? Why am I not nestled? Okay, so this is talking from the perspective of the butt. Why am I not nestled? Correct. Okay, so this is interesting because I did see, and this is really interesting in retrospect, John Lovett did a whole media blitz this summer with the anticipation that he'd be on Survivor.

And he had this whole extended rant on At Midnight this past couple of weeks about like chairs that are not ergonomically made for humans, that it's like either the arms are too tall or I'm just like squished up with my arms against my side. So it feels like he doesn't want to be claustrophobic, but it sounds like this person wants to be john lovett's already had a butt quote i'm gonna say it's not two for two i'll

say love it the podcaster that is correct it is love it the podcaster congratulations mike that gets you another point our score at the moment mike two Gabby one but Gabby it's your quote okay if you build it nerds will come oh that's a that's a get that on a t-shirt that's funny Mike's like okay I live by that uh that's my that's my live laugh love it's a it's the essentially the equivalent yeah well then that's what's making me think it's it's essentially the equivalent yeah well then that's making me think it's it's it's the podcaster because it's like you know they made this kind of this this podcaster that this podcast that like politics nerds and stuff listen to but and who knew that but i just want to go back to the nestled butt because mike like did recent mike

like knew about a specific chair related that like okay so i think that was very good um i'd be i'd be happy to lose to you that amount of research blame the algo things fall in my fyp and i just pick them up and nestle them in like a nicely crafted butt inside some sort of apparatus I'm going to say love it because I think he has built like a community where where politics nerds and all sort of people and things will go now to be fair I can't prove that he's never said that. You should have said that as a pranker for the entire game. So true. But technically, that was John Lovitz attributed to John Lovitz, not Lovitz. That's all right, Gabby.

You're still in this. Although if Mike gets this one correct, I believe technically you are mathematically eliminated. So let's go back to Mike for his last quote. I'm motivated by a bottomless well of anger. It's a joke, but I don't think I don't mean it. Oh, okay. This is like a riddle.

It's a joke, but I don't think I mean it. I don't think I don't mean it. Double negative. No wonder they voted this guy out if don't mean it. Double negative. No wonder they voted this guy out if it was Lovett. Like he's talking in double, triple negatives. I don't want to deconstruct a sentence while I'm trying to play Survivor. I want to diagram stuff. Okay, so what was the self-deprecating statement, the first part of the sentence?

I'm motivated by a bottomless well of anger. It's a joke, but I don't think I don't mean it. See, this is interesting because I would not consider John Lovett, the podcaster, a very angry person. I think he would almost take the boiling water that is that rage off of the burner and just freeze it into pure self-deprecation. I don't think his feelings take that phase of matter is what I'm saying. But at the same time, it was crafted in a way that felt like it would come from a writer. Like that's what I'm trying to balance right now. John Lovett has played angry characters.

But John Lovett would be the person to kind of construct that type of sentiment, especially the I don't think I don't mean it. So I will go with the wordiness, much like my filibustering before this answer. And I will say love at the podcaster. I lost your logic about halfway through, but that is correct. There we go. Yes, you nailed it. John Lovett said that quote. Shout out to, there was a Reddit thread of quotes from Pod Save America, and that's where that came from.

Gabby, your last quote, although you are eliminated, but this just for funsies. Let's see if you can identify who said this quote. Have we learned nothing from the food pyramid? Get that bread out of there okay i again i ever the ones mike has had i feel like i the last one i would have gotten and i'm gonna plot try to apply my own logic to this and this will get me barred from ever having john lovett a podcaster like me the last one about the it's a it's a joke but i didn't not mean it john lovitz with a z is a comedian comedians don't say that's a joke podcasters who are trying to be funny say that again 10 years i know all about it same logic yeah the pyramid thing is pretty funny so i'm gonna guess it's john lovett's the actual comedian and if it's not

then good job john lovett you made a funny joke without calling it a joke well as someone who also explains all her jokes i very much identify with with that logic but shout out to john love it for making a funny joke without having to explain win win baby good job yeah you see how i ingratiated myself where i'm like it's not funny but if you did this it is funny oh yeah so back on the pod baby we also know john love it said in his bio that he uh likes to work out so it would make would make sense he feels like carbs are not an essential part of anyone's diet yes exactly he has not have known that a whole rant on the food pyramid actually seems quite funny i oh that's good yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah love that and you know what else i? I love it and love it to this game so much.

But congratulations, Mike, you are the winner of love it or love it. There we go. Perfect. Exactly as expected. Well, that's the ticket to quote one of our subjects here. To close things out, as we do every week on the B&B,

we will throw it to our guests to plug a charity or cause that is important to them to highlight for the listeners out there. Gabby, it's all on you. What would you like to highlight this week? Yes. Thanks for giving me the opportunity. really fun which gives um humanitarian aid to children in gaza right now which is uh children are don't have meals aren't able to go to school and all of that so thanks for allowing me to plug that yeah of course it was such a great time having you here gabby i think it's

been a while since i think we've had you on for a b&b proper and what an episode to welcome you back for lots of stuff to get into i think it's been a very fun start to the season so far and certainly setting us up for lots of dramatics to come any final thoughts you have about this episode and anything you want to plug for the listeners out there oh i think it's going to be a fun season i I don't know what to expect. I never do. And I'm excited to get to know the rest of the cast through these future episodes. And I don't have anything to plug. I am on Twitter. I tweet this episode sometimes during or after at Gabby Pascuzzi. And that's it. Yeah. Thanks so much for having me. It was so fun. I will plug something of yours, Gabby Pascuzzi. And that's it. Yeah. Thanks so much for having me. It was so fun. I will plug something of yours, Gabby, though, something that I saw you post right before the premiere. And yes, we are already one episode in, but it's an advice

that should be taken. And look, you say, I don't know what a SWOT analysis is, but I saw a little bit of a white collar on you, Miss Pascuzzi, because you posted a whole ass flow chart for survivor players as to how they should approach looking at fan reception of themselves online and i will plug that for everyone out there survivor players past present and future it's a really great way to digest like when you see a comment about yourself for good or for bad, how you should let that inform who you are as a person, which spoiler alert, you shouldn't. So always a good reminder. That's what I'll plug from Gabby's fantastic content.

Aw, thank you. I did that while procrastinating on the actual work I need to do for my PhD. Yay. So I made a flow chart online. But yeah, honestly, that is my message to all the new players. If you're listening to this or loved to all the new players if you're listening

to this or loved ones of the new players like just enjoy this time it's so fun and it's so special nothing can take away the experience from you and just like I know that you're not going to listen to any advice that's like don't look online if you can do that that's the better piece of advice but if you do just like these people don't know you don't take it to heart, including me and us on this podcast, like we're just having fun commenting on like as if it's like a sport that we like. Right. So, John, love it. Please don't hate me. I think you're funny. And also to the rest of you, if we didn't mention you in this podcast, it doesn't mean that we didn't enjoy you on our screen. But having in your shoes like i understand how amplified everything feels during this time liana anything you'd like to plug in any words of wisdom after all that i'm just like

oh that's so wise gabby love one another love Love each other. The only thing I was going to mention that we didn't talk about on the pod was Asia saying, Mr. Gamer. I don't know why to Rome, but that really said, hello, Mr. Gamer, which I would love for Rome to be like, oh, that was my father. I think there's also like a 27% chance that Asia forgot his name. It was like, Mr. G uh gamer that guy sure which is funny because obviously as a commentator for games that makes sense but also kind of very negative connotations on survivor right because it's like oh you're gaming you're playing too hard whatever

loved it my only plug is for uh the mass singer podcast which is going to be coming back we and i have a big announcement that we're going to make on the very first episode. So that's the little teaser for that. Definitely check that out. Okay. So check out that announcement. Masked Singer back Wednesday, right? Going up against Survivor once again.

Yes, as always. You can check out everything I'm doing Survivor-wise. Of course, I got the chance to talk with Jon Lovett, which was so much fun. I mentioned little tidbits earlier in this podcast. He sheds a lot of light as to his own perspective behind everything that went down, his relationship with Andy, how he sought out the tribe dynamics

and why he was booted. So be sure to check that out. I'm also doing Big Brother Exit Press, the Challenge Exit Press, the Circle Exit Press. And then over on the scripted side on rhap it is positively hopping because i'm doing tv for real with sasha joseph we had hannah rose on this week in honor of the survivor premiere we just talked about a bunch of tv shows which was a great time for a brief period of time she thought that smash was mash it was a great conversation check that out over on

we know scripted tv i'm talking lost with josh wiggler we're doing seasonal recaps for first-time viewers and i am jumping on coverage of the penguin which are its first episode on max on thursday should be sure to check all that out and coming back speaking of josh wiggler he'll be making talk about long overdue B&B appearances. He'll be back for the first time in like almost 10 seasons, I think. A long time. A long time. On the B&B next week.

So send us your games. Send us your ideas. RHAPBNB at gmail.com or hashtag RHAPBNB on social media. We'll see what happens next week. Sounds like the mess will continue, and Leon and I will be here to recap it all. Special thanks to everybody behind the scenes at RHAP for making sure this podcast is in your eyes and ears

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