RHAP: We Know Survivor - Survivor 47 Ep 5 NYC Live Show
Episode Date: October 17, 2024LIVE from New York City, explore Survivor 47 strategies and social game with Rob Cesternino and 29 Survivor alumni as they discuss episode 5....
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Alright.
Coming to the stage. It's him.
He's him. It's Rob Dest it's Rob Cessarino!
Rob Cessarino!
Welcome back to the Boarding Arts Center!
Hey, Rob has a podcast!
And now, here's the guy who's about to do the real Survivor Social Hour, Rob Cessarino!
Hello everybody!
Wow, what a night! Who's excited? Hello, everybody. Wow.
What a night.
Who's excited?
All right, that was tense.
Kill the music.
Let's F in podcast, okay?
We have a star-studded show for you here tonight. We have, I would say, in this negotiation,
over two dozen survivors that are going to be here with us tonight.
And we're not trading them for any damn chickens.
Let everybody at home know you're here, please.
Yes, okay?
All right.
We've got a star-studded panel ready to go.
Got some heavy hitters coming in off the top, Okay, here we go. Let's go with,
we've got standing by Kelly Nalbandian, Omar Zahir, James Jones, Lindsay Delasowich, and D you? Hi.
James.
Omer.
Long time no see.
Take a mic, have a seat.
Wherever you want.
How's everybody doing?
Did we lose anybody?
We lost Dom Abate already?
He went to Coconut Grove.
10-1. 10-1, everybody.
Oh my God. How's everybody doing?
I guess
I gotta respond because you're looking at me, so
we're doing great. That was a great
episode. What do y'all think?
I just
want to say, everybody, this isn't tribal council.
You can talk to each other.
You can ask questions. We're scarred, Rob.
We're very scarred. We're a weed here, you know. Yes.
Okay. Oh, wait, this is a live tribal, Homer?
Something you want to share with the whole class?
There's no subtitles here.
Sorry.
No subtitles.
How are you doing?
I'm doing great.
Thank you for having us.
And hello, New York.
What a great city.
The subway's better than Toronto.
Okay.
All right.
Let me start with...
There he is.
There he is.
Dom, where you been?
You know. Nature calls. How, where you been? You know.
Nature calls.
How you doing?
I'm well.
Okay.
Kelly, let me start with you.
I wonder why.
You are the expert here on iconic tribal council exits.
Unfortunately true.
And for Annika, I mean, a classic moment. Classic. And you know what
she remembered her torch which is better
than I did. So
you know Annika wherever you are
I got a what the hell guy shirt with your name
on it. Yeah. And it's an honor
you know it's an honor to be blindsided I think.
Yeah.
So
a true blindside here
for Annika.
And I feel like that this was really,
I know it's maybe a little controversial.
I feel like the shot in the dark led up to this.
Omer, I know you love the shot in the dark.
I love the shot in the dark.
I feel like that without the shot in the dark,
I don't think that this blindside happens.
No, it does make you have to blindside people.
You can't be humane. You have to put
them down as harshly as possible.
And you know what?
I'm actually, I'm
pissed like Liz Wilcox.
Yeah, why? Because the last time I was at your live
show, J. Maya got voted out,
and now Annika, it feels
targeted. No, but
those are just the ones you come to.
Like, that wasn't like the last time we had one.
Is the curse of PG on me now?
Yeah, I think.
Look at yourself in the mirror, okay?
Oh, also.
Before you make accusations.
That brings me to one more thing.
I'd like to call someone out here.
Andy.
Because Andy, I ride for Andy.
And episode one, I was down for him to throw John under the bus.
I didn't care.
But now he's throwing those chickens under the bus, and that's not okay.
They had a place in that tribe, Andy.
You're blaming him for the chickens?
He said they were useless.
There actually is a very good use for the chickens.
Eat them.
Yes.
Eat them.
I feel like it's very simple. That's a very good use for the chickens. Eat them. Yes. Eat them. I feel like it's very simple.
That's a very good use for the chickens.
But, James, was this the right move for Sam?
Sam is still there, and he didn't have to play an idol,
so I feel like Sam's in a very solid place.
I mean, you have a clear target next week if they lose.
So why not do this now?
Well, I think it's an interesting question for Sam of taking Andy into the merge.
Mergatory probably is going to be next week based off of the episode.
And now you have Rachel, who you're taking with you into the mergatory. And now did you set up a situation where Rachel could be flipping over?
Dom?
She knows about the idol.
She knows.
Okay.
She knows about the idol.
Uh,
Dom,
what do you think?
How do you handle a situation like this?
Well,
Rachel's my girl.
So I'll bluff.
Uh,
if anything happens to her
I'll kill everybody
in this place.
There's like
900 people here, Dom.
Dead.
A lot of them
have nothing to do with it.
She's in a pickle.
I thought she was playing
a very well balanced game
until this episode.
I even told her
Rach, you're doing great.
She's like
we'll see.
You're forgetting about the Survivor Social Hour.
The really key Survivor Social Hour that Rachel...
She was involved in it.
Yeah, she was very involved in the Survivor Social Hour.
I mean, so, Lindsay, how do you think Rachel now feels moving forward after this tribal council?
Okay, there's a big blind side.
Her number one ally is gone.
And now she's made some connections.
Do you think that this could
end up coming back to bite the people that didn't work with her definitely because i think that it
ruined her relationship with sierra so now her thinking that she was being able to be like do i
want to be with sam do i want to be uh do i want to be with rachel and annika like now that's been
severed so now she's kind of obligated to be with sam and if i was rachel i I'd be like, I made enough relationships with the social hour that I'm like, you know what?
I'm just going to jump ship and go that way because sorry, Andy, you seem like a loose cannon.
However, that last part of it where you're like, I kind of knew where they were going to go with it.
I'm like, that was pretty clever.
I would still be very dangerous of thinking about Andy because I'd be nervous of him being in the merge too.
So what are people supposed to do with,
okay, you have Andy, he's at the bottom,
he's asking questions, what do you tell him?
Like, don't worry about it, it's good?
I mean, the old school Survivor,
you would tell them nothing.
Yeah, I would say as little information as possible.
This is the, James, this is the new era.
Okay. No, I mean. You little as information as possible. This is the, James, this is the new era.
Okay.
No, I mean.
You got to give him something, James. You have to give credit to Andy for actually understanding the tribe dynamics.
Yeah.
Where like a lot of people are on the bottom and don't know.
But I don't think Andy's on the bottom.
I think Andy's in the middle.
Oh, sure.
He has all the information.
So in the day, information is king.
And we didn't even see, and I suspect that it happened,
that we think that Andy went back and told Sam,
hey, Sam, just so you know,
they're throwing your name out for the fake plant.
Definitely.
Yeah.
And I think that that's really where, you know, Andy,
Andy's feeling it now.
I think Andy feels really good.
Yeah, I think he's feeling, I think he's all the way back now.
Yeah, Andy's riding a high in the frontier.
And I think that that, like, you know,
giving out this other name for the fake plan,
we saw it happen last week with Keyshawn
about, like, this name gets coming out,
and then that ends up being a reason, like,
okay, oh, well, definitely, let's get rid of it.
If it was, like, if Sam was needing to sell it
to Sierra even more, it's like,
oh, well, now they're saying my name.
Now they're throwing my name out there.
Now we got to move on this.
It's an easy for Sam.
Yeah.
But I think for Sierra,
like almost her hand is a little forced
with Sam's idol, right?
Like she has this conundrum
and she's put herself in this good position,
but then this singular idol,
which we kind of missed,
was Sam definitely going to play it or not?
We don't really know.
But the idea that he could, and he's already expressed,
I'm definitely going to save Andy,
that gives Sam a lot of power there.
James, you're making a lot of gestures.
I mean, Sam as an idol, like,
you're not going to put a vote on Sam.
I mean, like, in all actuality, he's a one-vote idol.
If you actually...
So, like, I don't know if Andy knew about it,
but everybody else did.
He didn't know about it. And I wonder now, did that open the door for is rachel gonna tell andy now hey by the
way did you know that sam had the idol now all bets are off it's just like rome was immune sam
was immune so any sam like plan wasn't really real so i thought it was very interesting that
we saw sam say a couple of weeks ago about hey hey, what if I play the idol on Andy?
And Ciara brought up that plan again,
that they decided not to do that.
It might make Andy a little spooked if we, spooky scary,
if we end up surprising him with the idol.
Was that the right decision?
To not play the idol on Andy, just do this with votes?
I think it was, actually.
And I think, you know, Sam may be a little gutsy after watching season 46 to not play the idol on Andy, just do this with votes. I think it was, actually, and I think, you know, Sam may be
a little gutsy after watching season 46
to not play the idol,
so I want to give him kudos for doing that,
but I think that it's important to
Sam knows how important
Andy is to his game moving forward,
and if he blindsides, why would
you blindside Andy with this idol when you're already
blindsiding Rachel? So you have to
keep Andy close to you in order to have that you know that we that they keep talking about yeah I
completely agree because I do feel like it would make Andy's thoughts turn even afterwards even
though it was a good move and a good gesture if the fact that it was unexpected it's going to then
make the turn like his mind turn afterwards and then that would spiral negatively, which wasn't the goal.
James, you're so expressive.
Alright, so I'm looking at the front row
and these people are literally making
me laugh and I don't, like, this is
bad. Like, those people right there.
People in the front row, stop making James laugh.
If you have something to share with the whole
class, come up here and say it.
He's very expressive.
They'll be up here in a minute.
Yeah.
Okay.
So for this group, I mean, how does Sam and Sierra now come back and do they need to tell Andy about the idol before Rachel ends up telling Andy about the idol?
Kind of.
She's going to do it.
And you know what? You guys are crazy
if you think if he plays an idol on Andy
and Andy's going to be mad that they
someone played an idol on me, which I know
nothing about, Lindsay. I'd be
um
it's kind of rude if I'd be pissed about it.
You might not be openly pissed.
But I never told you about it, so then you'd be really upset
that I didn't tell you in advance. Yeah.
So then, Sam
should have played the idol on Andy. I think it
would have been fun. It's like a surprise birthday party.
It's like, surprise, we got an idol for you!
It would be a great time and make great tea. Yeah.
Obviously. Honestly, it's interesting because you
walk away from this and you're like, oh, Rachel's in this
bad spot, but she's actually not. I think she's
actually one of the examples
I can think of where you're blindsided with the other
person, and it's actually not necessarily going to be detrimental to her moving forward. I think like,
well, they still need her. They still need her. But does she need them? Does she still want them?
Yeah. And, and I feel like that survivor social hour is sort of like a fake and or pre-mergatory.
It was like the same vibe where you need to come in and you need to throw someone to the bus
and Gata didn't do that at all. It was the pre-party. It was the pre-party.
Yeah, exactly.
It's a pre-game for the merch, right?
It takes away her dilemma.
Because now she's like, all right, decision's been made.
I'll just show you.
So she, I actually think, is like a little bit in free agent mode.
Which, like, I think there's maybe a lot of free agents coming from the other tribes.
So she might be a link.
What do you got, James?
And the one thing I think about the new era in general in Survivor is the bottom is really like level four and the top is level six.
Like it's not actually that you're not that far off from getting to the top.
It's level one.
At any point.
Yeah.
The lowest you could go is level four?
I mean, for the most part.
What level are you, James?
I mean, I got voted out ten, so I'm going to take.
You're the same, buddy.
Wow.
Who would have thought?
A lot of big dudes.
But no, like, so the bottom is never as bottomly
as you think it is.
And the top's never as high as you think it is
because people are paranoid.
So I think as long as you're in the game
and you have relationships, you have a chance.
Yeah.
Dom, what else are you thinking about this stuff?
I just, I'm still trying to figure out
how Andy mastermind manipulated Rachel and Annika.
I want to take those powers home and use them on my wife and kids.
It was well done.
Well done.
It's pretty good.
You know.
Pretty good.
He came back from that.
I mean, he was looking like a stone cold lock to go home back in episode one.
And now here he is.
And he's in like a,
had a complete turnaround.
It's a complete Angela journey.
My King.
Can I have your jacket?
Oh,
well,
yeah,
that would,
that's a,
that's an Angelina journey.
Oh,
sorry.
I missed it.
The wrong one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I want to say one thing.
Please.
I am very thrilled.
It's hard for me to watch Annika's emotions,
but I love to see people who care about the game enough
to walk out crying.
Yeah.
That shows, like, she was there to play,
and I am really impressed with that.
Yeah.
Annika seems like a fantastic player,
another one of these people that, like,
are taken out of the game
too soon, and
they have these small tribes, and people just
get taken out.
There's nothing you can do about it.
I thought...
I told Andy how to cut the rope.
It really worked with Sam the other week.
Can we normalize not hugging the people
that vote us out? Like, literally.
Like, I'm very much not
great job and read them as you walk out i'm so for that well she had a very similar exit with
asia where she turned around like saul was that you did you vote like no no it wasn't me it wasn't
me and so it's like all right at least my friends didn't vote me out but it's interesting that we
saw a similar closure yeah but i want to know that it seems like that they have been gone for a little bit.
But I'm wondering, are the voting confessionals and like kind of mean voting confessionals back?
We saw that Gabe had a spicy one earlier in the season.
And then Andy and Annika voted with the thing that says you can't vote.
She didn't get to vote, but she still,
and really, I have to give a lot of credit.
She still got in her thing of like,
hey, I'm voting for you, Andy.
It doesn't count, but I'm still saying the thing.
I think Wendell walked so everyone else could run
in the tribal confessional booth.
Okay, this is going to be a fast-moving night.
We got a ton of people to get to.
Anything else this amazing starting panel wants to say?
You can kick us off, Rob.
You know we got other people. It's okay.
You understand.
We need closure. We need closure.
Now, I want everybody to give me a hug before you leave, okay?
Yeah.
I'm really loving this season.
I will say, honestly, normally,
I'm more of like a
post-merge person, and every single
episode I've been extremely entertained,
so great job. Season 47,
I'm so excited. This has been an awesome season
so far. You're all amazing.
Thank you all for helping me get this thing
started and coming up, and I'll
see you all later, okay?
Alright, give it up for these guys one more time.
Very expressive, James Jones.
Yes.
Thanks, everybody.
All right.
We're going to keep it moving tonight.
We got another great panel coming up here, okay?
And we've got here with us, coming up, we got Sabaya, Emily,
Brandon,
Caleb,
who else we got coming up?
Maddie, and Bruce!
All right!
Wow! I don't have a mic.
We got some more mics.
Who needs a mic? I don't have a mic. We have some more mics. Who needs a mic?
Who needs a mic?
Think better if I don't have one.
Yeah.
Hey.
Okay.
All right.
So, you know, we have so much going on that we actually have a little bit of a twist here tonight.
Okay?
And, Caleb, you're going to like this.
Okay?
If anybody feels like, ah, that question's a little spicy, I don't really want to answer,
I don't want to give my true thoughts on this.
We have here our own version of the shot in the dark.
So if you don't want to answer the question that's asked to you,
go ahead and just pick up a pre-written response that's here.
And maybe it's like the one in a million, right?
Well, I will say it was so cool seeing the first panel up here and all the strategists and looking around.
And I don't think we're that.
Not at all.
It's not even close.
If you can't find the train wreck tribe, you are the train wreck.
That's how I kind of feel about this group.
This is the vibes panel.
Okay?
So we bring it up, and then we bring in some vibes.
Okay?
How are you all doing?
Great.
Just before we start, I want to let everyone here know I am planning to use my shot in the dark.
Okay.
All right.
Maddie, what did you think about this new twist
we saw here tonight of the Survivor Social Hour?
Whatever.
Yeah, that's it?
Okay, all right,
Maddie's playing the shot of the yard.
All right, Maddie,
here, open it up.
Open up your envelope.
Oh, there's stuff in it.
Yes, yeah, that's...
All right, Maddie,
what do you think of the new twist tonight?
Wait, what are the rules, Rob?
I think you just...
I don't know what's written
on the, in the envelopes, that you just read what it says.
Read the card.
Why won't Ozzy come back for season 50?
That's a good point.
That's a good point.
He would come back!
Yeah.
He would come back!
Okay, he said he would come back.
I think there's an OnlyFans video about that.
Okay, All right.
Sabaya, what are you thinking about this new twist, the Survivor Social Hour?
Would you have enjoyed this?
I think somebody like me would have.
I don't know if it would have gone well for everyone,
but somebody that likes to get involved with people,
likes to have conversations,
might have an idol up their sleeve that they're trying to find fire for.
I don't know.
Yeah, it might have went well for me, yeah.
Now, let me ask a question.
Bruce, did they really just give them one hot dog each?
That was probably the best hot dog they've ever had in their entire lives.
Like, the best hot dog.
Bruce, I feel like that you could work that grill
like nobody's business.
If there's anybody that's going to dad up that grill, it's going to be me.
That could have been you.
All day.
You would have killed it at the Survivor Social Hour.
You could have had an apron.
Yes, yes.
Kiss the chef.
One of those.
Yeah.
They even had a veggie dog for Kyle, which he called, I believe, one of the best food experiences of his life.
Shout out to my veggie dogs at the crib.
One hot dog.
Come on.
Come on.
That was pathetic.
I'm sorry.
One hot dog.
It was truly pathetic.
You want to go to the sanctuary.
Like, I had, like, a chicken, and that's all it was was a chicken.
Yeah.
You know how many eggs that's worth?
Greatest chicken in the entire world. You know how many eggs that's worth? Greatest chicken in the entire world. You know how many eggs
that's worth, Bruce?
But a hot dog? Seriously?
Jake, Jake, say hot dog.
Not for anything. Hot dog!
Alright,
Bruce, stay with us. Stay with us.
Yeah.
Speaking of chickens though, I'm glad to see
that we have like live food and stuff this season.
That's actually really, really cool.
Sabaya, would you have killed the chickens?
Definitely.
Sorry, Kendra.
But I definitely would have killed the chickens.
So, the Survivor Social Hour, Brandon, everybody gets one hot dog, you get a soda, and you play cornhole.
Nary a condiment available at the Survivor Social Hour.
I saw no trace of ketchup, not a relish.
He said there was no condiments.
Brandon, you don't like condiments.
Be real.
I don't, but my friends do.
I don't like condiments.
They're playing cornhole.
Emily, I was waiting for the, like, oh, there's, like, an idol hidden in the cornhole.
Like, I think they just.
Well, not everyone was playing cornhole.
Some people were still playing Survivor.
Caroline.
Yes.
But didn't you think that there was going to be some other, like, wrinkle of, like, the cornhole game?
Yeah, I was waiting for Rachel to come in with the knife, you know, Jeff Probst's knife, and open up those sandbags just to see if there was anything in there.
And if not, she'll just take the sand.
Yeah.
Yeah, social.
We're talking about the social hour.
Yeah, the most interesting part was I feel like
I was curious how much it seemed like the story
that Sam and Sierra were running the tribe back at the Yellow Tribe, a place we know very well.
And, you know, how much that might have hurt Annika in hindsight, because she was one of the people who went on the journey.
Yeah, do you think that they started to compare notes?
Like, all right, well, who was the person that was saying this and confirming this?
Was it you, baby Andyy or was it annika yeah i mean it
was interesting because the way that sam was telling sierra he was like sitting back in the
hammock he almost had like a smile on his face i feel like this is like the final piece of the
puzzle he was hoping to use to sell sierra that we have to stay with andy don't you think or anyone
i don't know well you know i don't agree with don't agree? Well, that's the thing about me and Sabaya.
You know, she's like, oh, when there's a pair, a visible pair,
she's like, let's vote out the other person instead of me.
Right.
I'm still.
No, honestly, like, with me and Caleb,
that's also something that's always, like, in the back of your mind.
So I could see, you know, Sam and Ciara feeling comfortable now,
but I'm sure in the next seasons like more and
more it will start to weigh in the back of their mind for sierra specifically i guess here's this
big guy he's has he's an idol that he could have played and he had such luxury to not even have to
play it which was a huge decision but i agree with them preserving andy and everything like that so
it'll be interesting yeah it really got
into story hour of like okay tell us what happened at all of the tribal councils and then everybody
was like uh comparing notes and tiana was like hey and and let me can i tell you about gabe
this guy gabe but that he's looking for the idol and she she really tried to throw Gabe under the bus.
It was like,
she said like,
hey, it worked for Gabler.
This is the move.
I'm going to go to the party.
And then the guy that I don't trust,
I'm going to throw under the bus.
But I think that this was too soon.
Oh.
I agree.
Oh, well, I shouldn't comment on that.
I liked it. I love Tiana. She's my winner pick. But agree. Oh, well, I shouldn't comment on that. I liked it.
I love Tiana.
She's my winner pick.
But also...
Yeah?
I really like Gabe.
And I did notice that the room was very quiet
when Gabe was talking his shit.
And I have to say
that cocky people from Maryland
get a really bad rap here, okay?
TK, Gabe, myself.
Justice for cocky people from Maryland. Yeah, can we give it up Okay? TK, Gabe, myself,
justice for cocky people from Maryland.
Yeah, can we give it up for the cocky people from Maryland?
They have their own section.
They're in the top left here, I think, somewhere.
Caleb, I know that there was more you want to talk about then.
The new twist.
Oh, of course. I mean, feel like uh it was uh i will say
very very cool i feel like andy's one of the most self-aware people on the bottom in terms of how to
play out of their positioning and that's the thing about survivor it it does follow the law of
physics right every action has an equal and opposite reaction. For every new high, unfortunately for people,
whether it's Annika, whether it's J. Maya, my girl,
for any one person to have a moment,
it usually means it's at the detriment of somebody else.
And so I think I really appreciate Andy's new spot in the game,
this life that he has,
because I think hopefully it's not going to be gone very soon.
Yeah, he's doing great. It's a real great turnaround for Andy.
Sabaya, last week we saw Sue had to cut the vine down and that does not get a candle she has to
burn. She gets the red paint that she has to deal with. How would you have handled that situation?
Being caught red handed, I would have took my eyes
and ran right into the ocean immediately
and just washed all of it off
and just left the scene.
Like, honestly,
I feel like she hung around a little too long.
You would have just left the paint.
I would have just left it
because realistically,
the only thing that ties you to that scene...
I was going to say that.
It would have blamed on me.
And I would just say I did it.
The only thing that tied her to the scene was her being covered in the red paint. So as long as you can separate yourself, you're Brandon. I was going to say that. It was blamed on me. And I would just say I did it. The tighter to the scene was her being covered in the red paint.
So as long as you can separate yourself, you're fine.
And Bruce, you were covered in the red paint in Survivor 44, right?
Oh!
No.
Damn.
So now why are you bringing stuff up like that?
I'm still triggered by stuff.
I see a board somewhere.
There it is right there.
There it is right there. There it is right there.
So I know exactly where Sue was,
and it would have been so easy for her to go to the water well,
take a little bit of a left, go down towards the water.
Why didn't she do like Rome and just jump in the whole well?
That would have been good too,
but I don't want people to get sick.
Like they would get sick from that,
but she could have went around the corner and then went down into that water and just cleaned herself off.
I was sitting there and my daughter actually said to me, she was, dad, she still has paint on her face.
And I'm like, oh shit, she does.
And then all of a sudden Tiana was like, what's wrong with your face?
What did you do?
Did you cut yourself?
I bit the back of my tongue.
How the hell?
Like I'm trying to figure it out. You bit the back of your tongue and it's like this blood everywhere what is going on here and
it's on her hands and it's in your hair oh my god it's in my hair she's just like
um yeah oh I'm good that's fine just go over there I'll be fine
that is what in my household was like absolute gold we're jumping around
loving life it was a fun moment for sure.
All right.
So does the panel have anything else?
Yeah, I just want to say like,
I feel like for the idol that I had this season,
it's been kind of represented twice.
One with the vine and then the other one
with the kind of Russian doll effect.
Cause my idol was like, okay, if you,
it's called the marshmallow experiment you know oh yeah
if you accept the you know delayed gratification you get rewarded later and i loved seeing it
played out in a more like i don't know like forward way this season with the rushing doll
thing so i thought that was really they've done some fun stuff caleb won't you play a shot in the dark before you leave? Come on, for old time's sake.
Rob, Rob, I just
love seeing idols being played.
That's what I love seeing. I love seeing them
being played.
All right.
Why couldn't Jesse
afford Billy Joel tickets?
He didn't start the fire.
A lot of Jesse fans apparently.
Did Brandon write these?
One in six.
So five out of six times
you're gonna lose
yeah
okay
that wasn't it
that wasn't it
before we go
can we do one more thing
last time we had
the Rhab show
yeah
Brandon Donlon
went home
one year ago
to one year ago
he was right there
and I think it
takes a lot of courage
to come to something
like this
when you know
that you're gonna be voted out so could everyone just clap again for Annika oh I think I takes a lot of courage to come to something like this when you know that you're going to be voted out.
So could everyone just clap again for Annika?
I think I'll say for Brandon.
And for Brandon Donnelly.
I'm sure it's hard, but at the same time, there's nowhere else you're going to go where you're going to feel so much love from people as well.
It's a tough thing for any of us to go through.
No winners here, right?
We've all experienced it.
All right.
Thank you all so much.
We got another great panel coming up.
I'll see you all later.
Thank you.
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So you got,
you got something for me really quick.
So the Mets are on right now and I know there's such overlap between
survivor fans and sports,
particularly baseball.
There is here.
So I'm,
I'm re I'm,
I'm watching it on my phone
I've never watched this like recreationally
I've been at games but I look at the
planes in the sky it's 2-0 we're not
winning we is in the Mets
but if there's a score change I'm gonna run up
and just tell you what it is I'll be in the corner
Thank you. If you don't see me that's why
that's what happened. I never
imagined the Mets would still be playing when we
planned a live show on October 16th.
I didn't think it would happen. Now look
at me. But I'm dedicated. Okay.
Alright. We have another great panel
that's coming up. Here we
go. Lindsey Carmine is here.
We've got
Janine. We've
got Dwight. We've got
Tevin. We've got Ben.
Hey everybody. Tevin, we've got Ben! Hey everybody!
Tevin,
I almost wore the same exact thing.
I know you did. I know you did.
Yes.
Okay, alright. I want to talk
a little bit about the
Tuku tribe, okay? And so
it's great. We've got some
Survivor 43 here to
talk about this with me.
And, of course, they're a blue tribe, and they're, you know, a dysfunctional tribe.
We had a dysfunctional season, dude.
Yeah.
So I want to talk a little bit about what happened tonight with Tiana
and her decision to tell everybody about what was, yes.
Let me tap on your shoulder.
Okay, Tiana's also my winner pick.
Okay, there will be, yes, that's correct.
Tiana's my winner pick.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
So there will be no Tiana Slander on this stage.
I'm just letting that be known now.
There will be no Tiana Slander, and we will go from there.
I have to beg to differ.
I'm sorry.
Oh, okay.
I love Tiana. I'm sorry. Oh, okay. I love Tiana.
I love her.
But I also, I did sympathize with Sue coming from someone who's been on the other side
of someone really, you know,
throwing your number one ally under the bus
in front of a public forum.
It's hard.
It's hard to come back from.
And yeah, so I just want to,
there's two sides to this.
And powerful women who deserve.
No, and I suspect that's probably what Tiana was thinking about
thinking back to your season where,
okay, this is a good spot where I'm going to...
Here's somebody that I don't feel so good about.
I'm going to offer that up.
But just the difference was that
that was actually a group vote
where there was the ability to take action on that.
And this was a week early
or an episode early to do that and then so they come back and this is I thought this was very
interesting of okay so they knew what had happened it was really it was so interesting that the whole
other the whole rest of the tribe was there except for Gabe. And so it's Caroline who says that I think you need to
go tell Gabe what happened and apologize. And so I thought it was so interesting, sort of like
the half-truth that Tiana decides to reveal to Gabe. And also the half-truth, I'm intrigued by
the choice of what she chose to say because Caroline told him like, hey, like, you know,
that's what was said. And Tiana's story was, I said something in private,
which doesn't line up with how would Caroline
know what happened, right?
So it's kind of a, she already kind of shot herself
in the foot with the half truth that was gonna be easily
exposed by both Sue and Caroline there.
But also I think it showed how much social credit
Caroline has to, you know, for both Gabe and Tiana
to kind of tell Gabe, hey, this happened.
Tell Tiana, hey, you need to go confess up.
And both sides kind of respect Caroline's opinion there.
So I'm really intrigued by what that shows
about Caroline's position on that tribe.
How are we doing?
No slanders so far.
I'm keeping it cool.
I'm keeping it cute.
Well, my question is,
if somebody came up to you
and they were like,
you're going to have to throw yourself under the bus
and then apologize,
would you guys do it no like i would find every reason under the sun to avoid that
conversation right and how do you do that yeah but this tribe it's been interesting because also
then there was like a lot of like okay you have to when tk had said the thing and then there was
like okay tk should apologize to tiana and there's a lot of like, in this tribe, that, you know, every tribe is different.
There's a lot of like, okay, you need to go apologize to that person.
I think there's been a lot of mansplaining this season on how to play.
And I think if everyone took a step back and maybe said, oh, how should I play this game,
as opposed to how should I teach someone else in my tribe to play this game?
Things would be a lot different.
Is there a different way that Tiana could have handled everything when they got back to the camp?
I think you kind of dug yourself too deep to not discuss with the rest of your tribe that you're throwing somebody under the bus.
And no slander on tiana you rock yeah uh
but i do think there's only two options you either own it or you start playing even extra
hard when you get back yeah and uh you can't give the half lie that other people can account for
which would not rock it was discussed at the last tribal too that gabe looks for idols so you know
you can just say that like yeah i told him you look for idols. Also, I wish they showed us because I can only imagine Gabe must have torn that island apart.
Oh, no doubt.
Because like I was thinking when I saw the Tribal, so like Gabe was alone from blue and Tina was alone from red
I kind of would you know if you lose that's not too bad
You get to go look for idols and everything on your own for an hour or two so.
Kevin this is why we need two hour episodes.
So we could show...
No, no, no.
What I will say about Sue is that yes,
yes ma'am Sue for going to go tell your number one.
My number one did not tell me that I was going home the night I went home.
That did not happen.
So for Sue to go tell
Gabe and be like, listen, your name
is out there so that Gabe can retaliate and find a way
to slide out of that is absolutely the right thing to um right thing to do yeah i do
think that tiana's in a tough spot because when they voted out tk that tiana got told like hey
like uh we're gonna do the epic girl boss move tonight and it's the women working together
and so she doesn't really even know that Gabe is actually with Sue and Caroline.
So it's a little bit of a tricky spot,
and it must be harder to go to something like this with your whole tribe as opposed to Teenie who got to go just all alone
and not have anybody there to tattle.
I mean, like what you said, I'm impressed at this point that, you know,
Sue, Caroline and Gabe
have kind of kept their
alliance under wraps
to the point where
you know like
Tiana had no idea
she was putting herself
in so much danger
doing that with everybody there
because she thought
you know I'm people
who won't go tell Gabe
and instantly
that obviously blows up
in her face
and I'm trying to see
how that plays out
in the next episode
because it's going to hit the merge
and I can only imagine
Gabe's going to be gunning
after her hard
with the other tribe
sure yeah okay Janine you have the hottest takes here because they're going to hit the merge, and I can only imagine Gabe's going to be gunning after her hard with the other tribe. Sure.
Yeah.
Okay, Janine, you have the hottest takes here.
Let me bounce this one off. Sorry, sorry, sorry.
I've been trying to withhold.
Don't be sorry.
Should Tuku have thrown the challenge today
to get rid of Tiana at the point
where she's throwing Gabe under the bus?
I mean, I'm sorry.
This is not a hot take,
but as a Survivor fan, you should never throw a challenge
that is just like against any fiber.
I love this, I love this.
I'm so sorry.
As an old school server.
I have to beg to differ.
I'm gonna have to tap you on your shoulder now
like you did to me earlier.
No, no, no, no, no.
I have a very hot take.
I believe that if you do not go to tribal council
before Merge, your tribe will always fall apart.
Nami fell apart.
Nami was the only people that were not there. I do believe that you do not go to tribal council before merge, your tribe will always fall apart. Nami fell apart. Nami was the only people that were not there.
I agree with that.
I do believe that you have to go to tribal
because you do not know where the tribal lines are
until that parchment is written on.
But that doesn't mean that you're on top of the tribal line.
That depends for a player.
Exactly.
If you don't know where you are,
then you're not going to want to go to tribal.
Listen, you need to go to tribal.
Yeah.
Caroline's talking about, hey, I need to get this five back together lindsey so that is that the is that the right
move to try to heal this uh group again as someone who tried to do that um it's it's almost
once the lines are fractured i think it's it's impossible to kind of recover from it's like
you know with a family fight,
it's estranged. You're going to have to let it
just mull over and do its own thing.
There's nothing you can do to corral or Australian
shepherd things back into their right
place. Yeah. Okay.
Can I say something
about the challenges, though, while we're on that point?
I do appreciate...
Janine is on fire. Sorry, sorry.
This is the last time I will say an observation.
I appreciate the game makers trying to
throw some twists and turns,
like the social happy hour and the puzzle.
The fact that it was a little bit more complex
in that the less time you have to take it down,
the less time you have to study it and build
it back up. So, I don't know. I thought that was like a little
tweak that I'm like, okay, Survivor,
they do care, and they're changing the structure
of the challenges in a way that is, you know,
as super fans,
nice to know. Yeah.
And please keep sharing your takes, Janine.
Okay. Ben, won't you
play a shot in the dark? Come on.
I would play a shot in the Dark by Ozzy Osbourne
off his album The Ultimate Sin.
You want me to grab one of those?
Yeah, come on.
Do you want Ben to play A Shot in the Dark?
A shot in the dark.
Okay, what do you got?
Before I ask, yo, I'm like really hungry.
Does anybody have any snacks?
I got triggered watching Survivor. I want to eat, you know? Does anybody in Does anybody have any snacks? I get triggered watching Survivor.
I want to eat, you know?
Does anybody in the audience have any snacks for Ben?
Just one hot dog.
Yeah.
Mellie, you got snacks?
You actually have snacks?
Yeah.
Sorry, let's go.
Yeah.
Yes.
Okay.
Mellie has like a meal prep here.
Like, leftovers.
Here, just read the shot in the dark.
We're on a timetable.
I want to get a different one, though.
We're on a timetable.
Yeah.
Okay, here we go.
Dog, you lived in the jungle, too.
Don't act like you wouldn't eat it.
Okay, real quick.
Real quick.
What state do the most survivor players live in?
What?
Denial.
Oh!
Okay, all right.
Thank you to the great panel.
Thanks, Rob.
Great job.
Hey, you rock.
Thank you, Tevin.
Yeah, take care, all right?
Thank you, thank you.
Yes, all right, Brandon, you got an update for me? What's going on with it? What's going on? I have horrible news. Oh, no. Yeah, take care. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Yes.
All right, Brandon, you got an update for me?
What's going on with it?
What's going on?
I have horrible news.
Oh, no.
It's remarkably bad.
What happened?
There were two more runs that were scored.
Not our team.
Yeah?
Not our team.
Mike Turner just left.
He was upset.
I don't know if he's still here.
He doesn't look happy.
No, he doesn't.
He's actually coming up here now. That's it.
I'll be back. Alright, alright. Let's
bring up another panel here. We've got
coming up here
a big one here.
Okay. It's the Purple Pants
Band Espresso Isaiah.
It's Izzy. It's
Wendyzy. It's
Sydney and Tiffany.
Next panel. next panel.
And Mike Turner and Kevin Jacobs.
Tiffany, where's the pizza?
Usually you give me about two seconds notice
before I have to deliver a pizza
and look like a total fool on stage.
So we're not going to do that tonight.
Okay.
Robert, can I get something off my chest real quick?
Yes.
Uh-oh.
Because I was sitting in my seat today.
Hey, y'all.
I was sitting in my seat, and I said, Lord Jesus, let me be a rope.
Because if I was a rope, I would want somebody like Andy to come just chop me off.
Because I said, oh!
There it is.
Andy!
Okay. Oh, sorry.
Sorry.
How was his form cutting the rope?
Doggy.
Okay.
Sorry.
Why do you put me up here with this guy?
Let me switch these.
I got a little moist.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Get that out of here.
The problem is he would cut you with the dull side.
Is he? Yeah. You want to look at him?
Mike, how you holding up?
I'm not doing good right now.
Yeah.
Look, if you find the Mets are doing so well.
First of all, what the heck are we doing here on a Wednesday night doing a Mets game?
Mike, I can't change the date.
If anything, the Mets screwed us up.
I had this date planned for
three months. Hey, we never
thought we'd ever be here as a Met fan.
And look at us. Miserable
again. Miserable again.
That's how we like it. Okay, I want to talk
about what's going on with the Lavo tribe.
Okay? We had,
you know, they went to two tribal councils
in a row. They avoid tribal council,
but they still had a lot of interesting stuff
going on there this week.
And first of all,
let's start with Teenie, who's in such
an interesting position.
Went on the journey last week.
Got to go
to the Survivor Social
Hour this week, solo.
How do you think Teenie is set up now going into the merge?
Well, can you just remind me what she did at the Social Hour?
Because I was sitting between Tevin and Davey,
and they were a little bit distracting.
Oh, my bad, my bad.
You're still here, my bad.
They did something more than the first merge boot at Winners at War,
is what happened.
Just some.
Bryce, I've turned over a new leaf.
I'm going to be nice to you today.
Oh, Winners at War?
Thank you.
I'm so tired.
Yeah.
I'm exhausted.
Anybody else tired?
Or is it just me?
You see?
I'm exhausted.
I'm old.
Tiffany is never exhausted.
Trust me.
No, I'm fine.
I just need to, like, wake up for a minute. I'm exhausted. I'm old. Tiffany is never exhausted. Trust me. No, I'm fine. I just need to, like, wake up for a minute.
I'm good.
This has nothing to do with Survivor whatsoever.
But I just thought I'd tell you.
I was tired.
Okay.
Moving on.
Moving on.
Well, I think Teenie was in a precarious position because she was the only one sent on the journey.
I'm sorry.
Sent to the...
Yeah.
Hank Social Hour.
Social Hour.
From her tribe. the Hank Social Hour from her tribe.
I also think my man Rome I love watching Rome.
I love it.
Can we get a shout out to my man Rome?
Shout him out.
I love Rome too.
He's very entertaining.
Saul's my man.
No side conversation. I was. Saul's my man. Hey, no side conversation.
I was saying Saul's my man.
Okay.
He's trying to run his own podcast over here.
I was talking to you, actually.
Well, stop talking to me.
You get me very nervous.
I know.
I have that effect on men.
Yeah.
Or man.
One man.
One man.
Kevin, how you doing?
Tiffany's making me very nervous up here.
Like, I'm nervous. I was,
I'm, I'm, I'm a Canadian. I was on the New York subway today and there were like two crazy groups of people like going at each other. And I was trying to figure out like, who would I rather
hurt me? That is law though. That is law though. And I'll tell you how you, all these people are
very, very, very smart. We got Rome, Genevieve, Teenie, Saul all going at it, running around, trying to hurt
each other. It is actually like the New York subway.
They're all good
at this. They're all trying to one-up each other. It's
electric. I don't know if I could live there. I don't know if I could live
in New York, but it's a lot of fun.
That was pretty good.
What was Genevieve's line today? She said
something smooth.
The scales be tipping.
She's a real one for that. She's invited to the cookout.
She's a real one.
Does she get?
Never mind, because if I was invited to the cookout,
I'd get more than one hot dog.
Veggie dog?
Oh, no.
You know, I need a hundred cent meat.
By the way, not for nothing,
I love hot dogs,
but that vegetarian hot dog did not look good at all out there.
I'm not sure I could eat that thing.
Excuse me, I don't know if any of you know this about me,
but I love talking about the bathroom.
So I just want to shout out Saul.
He's the one who said, oh, fart, right?
Oh, did he say that?
He said, fart.
Fart. Fart.
What I wouldn't have given to have been that person at that moment who said that, that was so great.
I just sat down. Why did he say that?
Because he wanted to say fuck, but he said fart, sorry.
He's like in a good place?
Yeah, he was like, I'm gonna use my good word that I have.
Tiffany, you had your great moment on Survivor,
the balance beam.
It was a lot like our friend who was sawing the stick,
only I was doing it onto the balance beam instead.
But nobody talks about that as being a good moment.
You know what that reminds me of, though, Tiffany?
Oh, here we go.
No, I'm just saying.
Y'all remember Tim from season 46?
Yeah.
Okay.
Shout out to my Tim.
The way Lord Jesus just came over me and said,
say Tim from 46.
So.
All right.
Okay.
What? All right.
Izzy.
Izzy.
Okay.
I am wondering with this red tribe,
how are they going to function when they get into the Mergatory?
Because they really are,
it seems like they're going
in all these different directions.
And I'm wondering if they're like,
I feel like that Rome is the least of their problems.
I feel like that Teenie is about
to leave them high and dry.
Absolutely.
Yes, they're all leaving each other
once the Merge happens.
For sure.
They're not staying together.
I think Tini was in an awesome position at the social hour, actually,
because Tiana's mistake was not necessarily what happened
when they got back to the beach,
but being the first of multiple people from your tribe to speak.
That's a dangerous position to be in.
You don't know what Sue are thinking, right?
And then you're just going up there with something really intense, you know?
Like, that's complicated.
Teenie can say whatever.
And Teenie's also already connected with Andy
and with Caroline of having the three-way idol,
so Teenie's already very incentivized
to leave this group.
100%.
Teenie will have that solo idol.
I know it.
Yeah.
Is that a threat or a promise?
Threat.
It was a threat.
Okay.
First one's a shot in the dark.
You want to do a shot in the dark?
I say Wendell, stop playing.
Wendell, go ahead and do it.
Wendell, go ahead and do it.
All right, Wendell's got it.
Come on, Wendell.
Shot in the dark for Wendell.
Wendell, take it.
Okay, what do you got?
What do we have here?
What does Jeff Probst
call...
What does Jeff Probst call Johnny Fairplay?
Johnny's my friend.
You want me to read it?
I'll say it.
Trick question. He doesn't.
Ha ha ha ha ha!
I don't like it. These writers. He doesn't. What?
I don't like it. These writers.
The writers are like very...
A little rude.
That's a little rude.
That's mean, man.
Yeah.
Robert, I...
You know, I got a little wet this episode.
I also had an issue.
Sorry.
Did somebody spill a drink?
Something like that.
I also had an issue this episode
with the Yellow Tribe.
Yes.
Because for some reason, I became a hen.
And when I became a hen, I was like, you know what?
If I'm a hen, I'm going to do Sue Mass.
So I'm 22 years old, right?
And I also felt like, well, if I'm 22, why is Sam just throwing me away?
I can produce 20 eggs a day, Sam.
I'm just saying. I can produce 20 eggs a day, Sam. I'm just saying.
I can
produce 20 eggs.
I mean, yeah, you make a good point.
What's happening?
I'm just saying.
I'm super happy over here.
Kevin, are you feeling like you're back on the subway?
This is electric.
I like this. I feel like I'm with Lavo.
We're just having fun attacking
each other yeah 30 eggs yeah you know what i thought was a really interesting moment with
lava also was when saul went back to genevieve and just basically said like boy genevieve i can't
believe it like rome yeah rome told saul like hey genevieve doesn't want to work with you he's like
genevieve i'm really hurt i thought you wanted to work with me rome saidieve doesn't want to work with you. He's like, Genevieve, I'm really hurt. I thought you wanted to work with me. Rome said you didn't want to.
I feel like that not everybody does that on Survivor.
It's like, well, now I got to work against Genevieve
to just come out and say the thing that you had heard.
Like, that was pretty wild.
It's amazing how in life and in Survivor,
just having a tough conversation sometimes
can save you a lot of stress.
And for Genevieve, she's like, yeah, that is true.
I did say that, but I didn't want Saul to know it.
That was pretty good.
Yeah.
I didn't make it this far in the episode,
so I wouldn't know what I would do in that situation.
I'd be home.
Tiffany, what else are you thinking about this season?
I'm thinking a lot about what's happening over there in that corner.
I'm concerned.
Yep, yep, that one, that corner with the sunglasses.
Now I know why you were wearing the sunglasses.
You were having a whole moment with that show.
With Saul.
I saw it.
With Saul.
His whole side is New York Fashion Week.
Look at them.
The whole moment.
Y'all look incredible.
Are you asking me what I'm thinking?
Yeah. Well, I'm thinking? Yeah.
Well, I was thinking about how I didn't go on a social and that hot dog would have been
really good and I would have eaten the freaking chicken or three of them.
And I was also thinking that if I was Jonathan on that episode and you had 18 eggs, that
wouldn't have even been enough for him.
Yeah, that's a-
So that negotiation sucks.
That's like a snack for Jonathan.
That's a snack.
So I was thinking about that.
45, Sam.
Jonathan would eat one of his tribe members.
Yeah, he was going all like, yeah.
That's what I was, I was also thinking that because of the way he's talking tonight,
I was thinking about the show that I'm watching, Tell Me Lies, which is so good.
I'm just saying.
Have you been watching it?
A little.
Oh my God, obsessed.
Okay.
That's a different podcast.
That's a different podcast. But anyway, that's what I was thinking. You asked me what I was thinking. That is true. I opened God, obsessed. Okay. That's a different podcast. That's a different podcast.
But anyway, that's what I was thinking.
You asked me what I was thinking.
That is true.
I opened up Pandora's box.
That's what I was thinking.
This is why I did not get past where I got on Survivor.
Izzy, what else are you seeing from this season?
I'm loving this season.
I think this is a great season.
I think like a lot of people are really thinking.
I think a lot of decisions are being made, you know? I think, yeah, yeah. I wasn't happy with who went home tonight,
but you know, I was, I would have tried to do something weird, convince Sam to play his
idol for Andy. Everyone vote for Andy, but they actually all vote for Sam. Get rid of
Sam. Sam's causing Sierra problems, Right? She's got the two girls
already at the social hour.
They're maybe connecting up
with more people.
Do you feel like that Sierra
made the right decision?
No.
Yeah.
But that's,
you know,
I'm biased.
You know?
Yeah.
That's all.
That's my thoughts.
That's my thoughts.
Okay.
You know what?
I thought they were going to,
at one point,
I thought that they were
going to blindside Andy.
Because like,
he's,
he's thinking of this crazy strategy, which is actually-
That's working.
I think it's a great strategy.
Bryce, may I finish?
I'm just saying tread lightly about Andy.
You know, I also need to teach Andy how to saw.
You know what I'm saying?
Yes, you did.
That would be great.
It's just a longer motion, Andy.
That's all it is.
Oh, stop that. Oh, God. And That would be great. It's just a longer motion, Andy. That's all it is, okay?
Oh, not that.
Oh, God.
And I'm the problem.
Not like that.
No, not like... You know what?
Do we have another seat?
Great job tonight, Andy.
That's all.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
I'm getting the signal.
I got to wrap up with this group, okay?
Bring the lawyers in.
Thank you all so much.
Thank you.
One more panel to get to. Nothing's wrong with me. Okay. Are you tired of me yet? No. Never the lawyers. Thank you all so much. Thank you. One more panel to get through.
Okay. Are you tired of me yet? No, never, never. Okay. Thank you all so much. Okay.
All right. We've got one more panel coming up and this is, we got to talk about this negotiation
that happened. We haven't even talked about this yet. Okay. And so we've brought in some
of our top negotiators and litigators around to talk about this. So please welcome who's coming
up here. We've got Eliza, Jake, Sydney, and Katara. Tiffany said this one's not working.
Here, grab that one
right there the chair is fine
Tiffany said the mic's not working
we gotta talk about this
negotiation okay all the mic's
working okay
how's everybody doing?
hi Rob, hi Keturah how are you?
I'm great, you've got your lawyer
panel up here
look at these lawyers.
All the lawyers. We miss you, Charlie. We love
you. I hope you passed the bar
exam. Please pass the bar. He did. Come on.
He's getting his results
tomorrow, so fingers crossed for Charlie. I'm sure
he's fine. Fingers crossed. He's fine.
He's fine. He's fine. He's fine.
Okay. Fine. Alright.
Okay. Oops. Just kidding.
Just kidding. I'm talking to you. In spirit. Okay. Charlie, wherever you are. Let's recenter over here. Okay. All right. Okay. Oops. Just kidding. Just kidding. I'm talking in spirit.
Okay.
Let's recenter over here.
Okay.
Let's talk to the people on the stage.
Let's talk about what's going on with the chickens.
Oh,
okay.
So three live chickens get given to the survivors.
Here you go.
This is your reward.
Three live chickens.
The chickens got returned like when I see something, a jacket on Amazon, and I'm like, all right, let me try that, and I take it right back to Kohl's.
They returned the reward.
Outrageous.
Truly.
I mean, I don't know.
I thought we were past the point of loving the chickens so much that they
can't be killed dude i i'd wrangle that shit why are we not eating at least one i mean if you've
never you know the phrase running around with a chick like a chicken with your head cut off
if you've never cut off a chicken's head how would you even know the physical manifestation
of that phrase you ever have ever have chickens, Lila?
We killed chickens.
Ozzy chopped its head off, and it ran around with its head cut off, and we ate it, and it was delicious.
I haven't experienced that.
Sorry, not sorry.
You know, I just wonder, like, for the survivors, are they feeling, like, any sort of, like, social pressure of, like, I don't want to kill the chicken.
I don't want to be the one that kills the chicken
dude if you're starving
what the hell is a social pressure
kill the chicken
also they're not starving
it's 26 days
a chicken a free large chicken
unpopular well they're not actually as big
as they were before I feel like they're kind of small this season
that means they're organic
which is good we don't want like hormone infused chicken, you know?
But we want calm chicken.
We want chicken.
We need free range chicken rewards.
That's it.
I just want to say I would not kill the chicken on the island.
Whatever.
See ya.
But, but.
Oh, wait.
Hold up, hold up.
Can I finish?
Can I finish?
Can I finish?
I'm not going to stop a person with a machete.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I'm not going to stand in front of him.
Okay.
Well, look, we've got our legal experts here.
So I want to know about this negotiation.
Okay.
So they bring back three live chickens and say, Jeff, hey, you know what?
About that.
Second place was six eggs.
We would like to exchange the chicken for 24 eggs.
And Jeff does not say, get the hell out of here.
He also doesn't pull out a knife
and randomly stab a bag of rice.
So I think they're doing okay.
Okay.
You don't want them?
I'll take them.
Oh, my God.
Where's the guy?
Okay, who wants them then?
And let the other tribes take them.
Be like, oh, you don't want them?
Really?
There's no return policy here.
Sorry.
And just taking them from that tribe.
Yes, what's the legal precedent?
Legally speaking, there needs to be like a fair negotiation.
There needs to be like somewhat equal bargaining power. Do you know
where we were? This is a right.
So that's the thing. This isn't a negotiation
like Jeff could just straight up, which I think
Jeff should have just been like, nah, there's no consideration.
Exactly. What
happened to spicy Jeff?
This wasn't that spicy. It wasn't.
It wasn't. It was.
The chicken was plain. It was very mild.
It was soft, Jeff.
18 eggs? No, he came mild. It was soft, Jeff. And he gave him 15 eggs?
18 eggs?
No, he came back.
He came up from 15.
He gave him 18.
Oh, he went up to 18?
18.
Oh, come on.
Was this day nine?
That's a lot of eggs.
I think it was day nine.
That's a good amount of eggs.
I know that.
I was shocked.
I don't think it's like a bad deal.
Like, that's pretty good.
Oh, yeah.
You got 15 eggs?
Yeah, so I looked up the nutritional information.
Oh.
Okay.
Numbers, love it.
And so the three chickens divided by five people is like about 1,000 calories each person.
And then 18 eggs for five people was only like 250 calories per person.
So they ended up trading down, but it did seem like a pretty generous and easy exchange.
They're still at a calorie deficit.
I mean, the merge is about to happen, right?
And that's going to get dispersed as soon as you hit the merge.
So it's like either you're going to pound 18 eggs, like no problem, right?
How big of a mistake was it to not make the fire before they went to the challenge where they could potentially lose the flint?
It's mind-bogglingly idiotic.
What were they doing?
Honestly.
We never came back from a challenge and didn't have a fire going.
Like, what were they thinking?
They're probably thinking they might win.
Or that they could just do it with like, don't people
do it with like sunglasses and like sticks
and shit? No one's thinking that.
I don't think sunglasses are ideal.
I'm thinking that on Survivor.
But wait, Rob, I know we're going to wrap this panel.
We would be remiss to have a legal panel here
not to talk about the lawyer
on this season who is absolutely
crushing it.
And who is just,
I mean,
what an extraordinary breakout last two episodes Genevieve has had.
Shout out to Genevieve.
You are representing the lawyers.
Representing lawyers.
Doing this.
So proud.
Please do better than us.
Please do better than us.
Slow start.
And now Genevieve's kind of killing it.
Killing it.
Killing it.
Rushing it.
Slow start, but coming on strong
these last two episodes.
Does anybody want to play the shot in the dark
before we start to wrap things up?
Eliza, do you want to try it?
Jake.
Do you want to try it, Eliza?
I feel like it should be you, Jake.
Wait, I'm going to do it?
Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake.
Okay.
I thought you loved these new era twists so much
you might want to give it a shot.
You know what I mean?
For those who are just listening at home, there was a really big eye roll. Huge. these new era twists so much you might want to give it a shot. You know what I mean?
For those who are just listening at home,
there was a really big eye roll.
Huge.
Okay.
Jake?
Why did Tony Vlachos sneak into the NBA Hall of Fame?
Why?
So he could spy Shaq.
That's with a Q, like Shaquille O'Neal.
Oh, my God!
Who wrote this, Rob?
Okay.
All right.
Well, all right.
Okay.
All right.
That's our time here tonight, people.
You were an amazing crowd.
We've still got some fun still tonight, but outside of the podcast.
Thank you all for coming up
and talking through
the chicken negotiation
with us from tonight.
New York City,
you've been amazing.
Woo!
And of course,
we've got so much more
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A full week of podcasts about this episode.
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Sam, any other business tonight?
Yeah, we've got another.
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See you in a couple of months.
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You are amazing.
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We love you.
Have a great night, everybody.