RHAP: We Know Survivor - Survivor 47 Ep 5 NYC Live Show

Episode Date: October 17, 2024

LIVE from New York City, explore Survivor 47 strategies and social game with Rob Cesternino and 29 Survivor alumni as they discuss episode 5....

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Starting point is 00:01:02 Coming to the stage. It's him. He's him. It's Rob Dest it's Rob Cessarino! Rob Cessarino! Welcome back to the Boarding Arts Center! Hey, Rob has a podcast! And now, here's the guy who's about to do the real Survivor Social Hour, Rob Cessarino! Hello everybody! Wow, what a night! Who's excited? Hello, everybody. Wow.
Starting point is 00:01:26 What a night. Who's excited? All right, that was tense. Kill the music. Let's F in podcast, okay? We have a star-studded show for you here tonight. We have, I would say, in this negotiation, over two dozen survivors that are going to be here with us tonight. And we're not trading them for any damn chickens.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Let everybody at home know you're here, please. Yes, okay? All right. We've got a star-studded panel ready to go. Got some heavy hitters coming in off the top, Okay, here we go. Let's go with, we've got standing by Kelly Nalbandian, Omar Zahir, James Jones, Lindsay Delasowich, and D you? Hi. James. Omer.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Long time no see. Take a mic, have a seat. Wherever you want. How's everybody doing? Did we lose anybody? We lost Dom Abate already? He went to Coconut Grove. 10-1. 10-1, everybody.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Oh my God. How's everybody doing? I guess I gotta respond because you're looking at me, so we're doing great. That was a great episode. What do y'all think? I just want to say, everybody, this isn't tribal council. You can talk to each other.
Starting point is 00:03:19 You can ask questions. We're scarred, Rob. We're very scarred. We're a weed here, you know. Yes. Okay. Oh, wait, this is a live tribal, Homer? Something you want to share with the whole class? There's no subtitles here. Sorry. No subtitles. How are you doing?
Starting point is 00:03:32 I'm doing great. Thank you for having us. And hello, New York. What a great city. The subway's better than Toronto. Okay. All right. Let me start with...
Starting point is 00:03:41 There he is. There he is. Dom, where you been? You know. Nature calls. How, where you been? You know. Nature calls. How you doing? I'm well. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Kelly, let me start with you. I wonder why. You are the expert here on iconic tribal council exits. Unfortunately true. And for Annika, I mean, a classic moment. Classic. And you know what she remembered her torch which is better than I did. So you know Annika wherever you are
Starting point is 00:04:11 I got a what the hell guy shirt with your name on it. Yeah. And it's an honor you know it's an honor to be blindsided I think. Yeah. So a true blindside here for Annika. And I feel like that this was really,
Starting point is 00:04:29 I know it's maybe a little controversial. I feel like the shot in the dark led up to this. Omer, I know you love the shot in the dark. I love the shot in the dark. I feel like that without the shot in the dark, I don't think that this blindside happens. No, it does make you have to blindside people. You can't be humane. You have to put
Starting point is 00:04:48 them down as harshly as possible. And you know what? I'm actually, I'm pissed like Liz Wilcox. Yeah, why? Because the last time I was at your live show, J. Maya got voted out, and now Annika, it feels targeted. No, but
Starting point is 00:05:03 those are just the ones you come to. Like, that wasn't like the last time we had one. Is the curse of PG on me now? Yeah, I think. Look at yourself in the mirror, okay? Oh, also. Before you make accusations. That brings me to one more thing.
Starting point is 00:05:17 I'd like to call someone out here. Andy. Because Andy, I ride for Andy. And episode one, I was down for him to throw John under the bus. I didn't care. But now he's throwing those chickens under the bus, and that's not okay. They had a place in that tribe, Andy. You're blaming him for the chickens?
Starting point is 00:05:36 He said they were useless. There actually is a very good use for the chickens. Eat them. Yes. Eat them. I feel like it's very simple. That's a very good use for the chickens. Eat them. Yes. Eat them. I feel like it's very simple. That's a very good use for the chickens. But, James, was this the right move for Sam?
Starting point is 00:05:57 Sam is still there, and he didn't have to play an idol, so I feel like Sam's in a very solid place. I mean, you have a clear target next week if they lose. So why not do this now? Well, I think it's an interesting question for Sam of taking Andy into the merge. Mergatory probably is going to be next week based off of the episode. And now you have Rachel, who you're taking with you into the mergatory. And now did you set up a situation where Rachel could be flipping over? Dom?
Starting point is 00:06:30 She knows about the idol. She knows. Okay. She knows about the idol. Uh, Dom, what do you think? How do you handle a situation like this?
Starting point is 00:06:38 Well, Rachel's my girl. So I'll bluff. Uh, if anything happens to her I'll kill everybody in this place. There's like
Starting point is 00:06:48 900 people here, Dom. Dead. A lot of them have nothing to do with it. She's in a pickle. I thought she was playing a very well balanced game until this episode.
Starting point is 00:06:59 I even told her Rach, you're doing great. She's like we'll see. You're forgetting about the Survivor Social Hour. The really key Survivor Social Hour that Rachel... She was involved in it. Yeah, she was very involved in the Survivor Social Hour.
Starting point is 00:07:12 I mean, so, Lindsay, how do you think Rachel now feels moving forward after this tribal council? Okay, there's a big blind side. Her number one ally is gone. And now she's made some connections. Do you think that this could end up coming back to bite the people that didn't work with her definitely because i think that it ruined her relationship with sierra so now her thinking that she was being able to be like do i want to be with sam do i want to be uh do i want to be with rachel and annika like now that's been
Starting point is 00:07:41 severed so now she's kind of obligated to be with sam and if i was rachel i I'd be like, I made enough relationships with the social hour that I'm like, you know what? I'm just going to jump ship and go that way because sorry, Andy, you seem like a loose cannon. However, that last part of it where you're like, I kind of knew where they were going to go with it. I'm like, that was pretty clever. I would still be very dangerous of thinking about Andy because I'd be nervous of him being in the merge too. So what are people supposed to do with, okay, you have Andy, he's at the bottom, he's asking questions, what do you tell him?
Starting point is 00:08:14 Like, don't worry about it, it's good? I mean, the old school Survivor, you would tell them nothing. Yeah, I would say as little information as possible. This is the, James, this is the new era. Okay. No, I mean. You little as information as possible. This is the, James, this is the new era. Okay. No, I mean.
Starting point is 00:08:28 You got to give him something, James. You have to give credit to Andy for actually understanding the tribe dynamics. Yeah. Where like a lot of people are on the bottom and don't know. But I don't think Andy's on the bottom. I think Andy's in the middle. Oh, sure. He has all the information. So in the day, information is king.
Starting point is 00:08:42 And we didn't even see, and I suspect that it happened, that we think that Andy went back and told Sam, hey, Sam, just so you know, they're throwing your name out for the fake plant. Definitely. Yeah. And I think that that's really where, you know, Andy, Andy's feeling it now.
Starting point is 00:09:00 I think Andy feels really good. Yeah, I think he's feeling, I think he's all the way back now. Yeah, Andy's riding a high in the frontier. And I think that that, like, you know, giving out this other name for the fake plan, we saw it happen last week with Keyshawn about, like, this name gets coming out, and then that ends up being a reason, like,
Starting point is 00:09:17 okay, oh, well, definitely, let's get rid of it. If it was, like, if Sam was needing to sell it to Sierra even more, it's like, oh, well, now they're saying my name. Now they're throwing my name out there. Now we got to move on this. It's an easy for Sam. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:29 But I think for Sierra, like almost her hand is a little forced with Sam's idol, right? Like she has this conundrum and she's put herself in this good position, but then this singular idol, which we kind of missed, was Sam definitely going to play it or not?
Starting point is 00:09:42 We don't really know. But the idea that he could, and he's already expressed, I'm definitely going to save Andy, that gives Sam a lot of power there. James, you're making a lot of gestures. I mean, Sam as an idol, like, you're not going to put a vote on Sam. I mean, like, in all actuality, he's a one-vote idol.
Starting point is 00:10:00 If you actually... So, like, I don't know if Andy knew about it, but everybody else did. He didn't know about it. And I wonder now, did that open the door for is rachel gonna tell andy now hey by the way did you know that sam had the idol now all bets are off it's just like rome was immune sam was immune so any sam like plan wasn't really real so i thought it was very interesting that we saw sam say a couple of weeks ago about hey hey, what if I play the idol on Andy? And Ciara brought up that plan again,
Starting point is 00:10:26 that they decided not to do that. It might make Andy a little spooked if we, spooky scary, if we end up surprising him with the idol. Was that the right decision? To not play the idol on Andy, just do this with votes? I think it was, actually. And I think, you know, Sam may be a little gutsy after watching season 46 to not play the idol on Andy, just do this with votes. I think it was, actually, and I think, you know, Sam may be a little gutsy after watching season 46
Starting point is 00:10:48 to not play the idol, so I want to give him kudos for doing that, but I think that it's important to Sam knows how important Andy is to his game moving forward, and if he blindsides, why would you blindside Andy with this idol when you're already blindsiding Rachel? So you have to
Starting point is 00:11:04 keep Andy close to you in order to have that you know that we that they keep talking about yeah I completely agree because I do feel like it would make Andy's thoughts turn even afterwards even though it was a good move and a good gesture if the fact that it was unexpected it's going to then make the turn like his mind turn afterwards and then that would spiral negatively, which wasn't the goal. James, you're so expressive. Alright, so I'm looking at the front row and these people are literally making me laugh and I don't, like, this is
Starting point is 00:11:34 bad. Like, those people right there. People in the front row, stop making James laugh. If you have something to share with the whole class, come up here and say it. He's very expressive. They'll be up here in a minute. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:48 So for this group, I mean, how does Sam and Sierra now come back and do they need to tell Andy about the idol before Rachel ends up telling Andy about the idol? Kind of. She's going to do it. And you know what? You guys are crazy if you think if he plays an idol on Andy and Andy's going to be mad that they someone played an idol on me, which I know nothing about, Lindsay. I'd be
Starting point is 00:12:13 um it's kind of rude if I'd be pissed about it. You might not be openly pissed. But I never told you about it, so then you'd be really upset that I didn't tell you in advance. Yeah. So then, Sam should have played the idol on Andy. I think it would have been fun. It's like a surprise birthday party.
Starting point is 00:12:29 It's like, surprise, we got an idol for you! It would be a great time and make great tea. Yeah. Obviously. Honestly, it's interesting because you walk away from this and you're like, oh, Rachel's in this bad spot, but she's actually not. I think she's actually one of the examples I can think of where you're blindsided with the other person, and it's actually not necessarily going to be detrimental to her moving forward. I think like,
Starting point is 00:12:48 well, they still need her. They still need her. But does she need them? Does she still want them? Yeah. And, and I feel like that survivor social hour is sort of like a fake and or pre-mergatory. It was like the same vibe where you need to come in and you need to throw someone to the bus and Gata didn't do that at all. It was the pre-party. It was the pre-party. Yeah, exactly. It's a pre-game for the merch, right? It takes away her dilemma. Because now she's like, all right, decision's been made.
Starting point is 00:13:10 I'll just show you. So she, I actually think, is like a little bit in free agent mode. Which, like, I think there's maybe a lot of free agents coming from the other tribes. So she might be a link. What do you got, James? And the one thing I think about the new era in general in Survivor is the bottom is really like level four and the top is level six. Like it's not actually that you're not that far off from getting to the top. It's level one.
Starting point is 00:13:32 At any point. Yeah. The lowest you could go is level four? I mean, for the most part. What level are you, James? I mean, I got voted out ten, so I'm going to take. You're the same, buddy. Wow.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Who would have thought? A lot of big dudes. But no, like, so the bottom is never as bottomly as you think it is. And the top's never as high as you think it is because people are paranoid. So I think as long as you're in the game and you have relationships, you have a chance.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Yeah. Dom, what else are you thinking about this stuff? I just, I'm still trying to figure out how Andy mastermind manipulated Rachel and Annika. I want to take those powers home and use them on my wife and kids. It was well done. Well done. It's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:14:15 You know. Pretty good. He came back from that. I mean, he was looking like a stone cold lock to go home back in episode one. And now here he is. And he's in like a, had a complete turnaround. It's a complete Angela journey.
Starting point is 00:14:31 My King. Can I have your jacket? Oh, well, yeah, that would, that's a, that's an Angelina journey.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Oh, sorry. I missed it. The wrong one. Yeah. Yeah. I want to say one thing. Please.
Starting point is 00:14:43 I am very thrilled. It's hard for me to watch Annika's emotions, but I love to see people who care about the game enough to walk out crying. Yeah. That shows, like, she was there to play, and I am really impressed with that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Annika seems like a fantastic player, another one of these people that, like, are taken out of the game too soon, and they have these small tribes, and people just get taken out. There's nothing you can do about it. I thought...
Starting point is 00:15:15 I told Andy how to cut the rope. It really worked with Sam the other week. Can we normalize not hugging the people that vote us out? Like, literally. Like, I'm very much not great job and read them as you walk out i'm so for that well she had a very similar exit with asia where she turned around like saul was that you did you vote like no no it wasn't me it wasn't me and so it's like all right at least my friends didn't vote me out but it's interesting that we
Starting point is 00:15:40 saw a similar closure yeah but i want to know that it seems like that they have been gone for a little bit. But I'm wondering, are the voting confessionals and like kind of mean voting confessionals back? We saw that Gabe had a spicy one earlier in the season. And then Andy and Annika voted with the thing that says you can't vote. She didn't get to vote, but she still, and really, I have to give a lot of credit. She still got in her thing of like, hey, I'm voting for you, Andy.
Starting point is 00:16:15 It doesn't count, but I'm still saying the thing. I think Wendell walked so everyone else could run in the tribal confessional booth. Okay, this is going to be a fast-moving night. We got a ton of people to get to. Anything else this amazing starting panel wants to say? You can kick us off, Rob. You know we got other people. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:16:34 You understand. We need closure. We need closure. Now, I want everybody to give me a hug before you leave, okay? Yeah. I'm really loving this season. I will say, honestly, normally, I'm more of like a post-merge person, and every single
Starting point is 00:16:48 episode I've been extremely entertained, so great job. Season 47, I'm so excited. This has been an awesome season so far. You're all amazing. Thank you all for helping me get this thing started and coming up, and I'll see you all later, okay? Alright, give it up for these guys one more time.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Very expressive, James Jones. Yes. Thanks, everybody. All right. We're going to keep it moving tonight. We got another great panel coming up here, okay? And we've got here with us, coming up, we got Sabaya, Emily, Brandon,
Starting point is 00:17:28 Caleb, who else we got coming up? Maddie, and Bruce! All right! Wow! I don't have a mic. We got some more mics. Who needs a mic? I don't have a mic. We have some more mics. Who needs a mic? Who needs a mic?
Starting point is 00:17:46 Think better if I don't have one. Yeah. Hey. Okay. All right. So, you know, we have so much going on that we actually have a little bit of a twist here tonight. Okay? And, Caleb, you're going to like this.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Okay? If anybody feels like, ah, that question's a little spicy, I don't really want to answer, I don't want to give my true thoughts on this. We have here our own version of the shot in the dark. So if you don't want to answer the question that's asked to you, go ahead and just pick up a pre-written response that's here. And maybe it's like the one in a million, right? Well, I will say it was so cool seeing the first panel up here and all the strategists and looking around.
Starting point is 00:18:35 And I don't think we're that. Not at all. It's not even close. If you can't find the train wreck tribe, you are the train wreck. That's how I kind of feel about this group. This is the vibes panel. Okay? So we bring it up, and then we bring in some vibes.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Okay? How are you all doing? Great. Just before we start, I want to let everyone here know I am planning to use my shot in the dark. Okay. All right. Maddie, what did you think about this new twist we saw here tonight of the Survivor Social Hour?
Starting point is 00:19:11 Whatever. Yeah, that's it? Okay, all right, Maddie's playing the shot of the yard. All right, Maddie, here, open it up. Open up your envelope. Oh, there's stuff in it.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Yes, yeah, that's... All right, Maddie, what do you think of the new twist tonight? Wait, what are the rules, Rob? I think you just... I don't know what's written on the, in the envelopes, that you just read what it says. Read the card.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Why won't Ozzy come back for season 50? That's a good point. That's a good point. He would come back! Yeah. He would come back! Okay, he said he would come back. I think there's an OnlyFans video about that.
Starting point is 00:20:03 Okay, All right. Sabaya, what are you thinking about this new twist, the Survivor Social Hour? Would you have enjoyed this? I think somebody like me would have. I don't know if it would have gone well for everyone, but somebody that likes to get involved with people, likes to have conversations, might have an idol up their sleeve that they're trying to find fire for.
Starting point is 00:20:26 I don't know. Yeah, it might have went well for me, yeah. Now, let me ask a question. Bruce, did they really just give them one hot dog each? That was probably the best hot dog they've ever had in their entire lives. Like, the best hot dog. Bruce, I feel like that you could work that grill like nobody's business.
Starting point is 00:20:44 If there's anybody that's going to dad up that grill, it's going to be me. That could have been you. All day. You would have killed it at the Survivor Social Hour. You could have had an apron. Yes, yes. Kiss the chef. One of those.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Yeah. They even had a veggie dog for Kyle, which he called, I believe, one of the best food experiences of his life. Shout out to my veggie dogs at the crib. One hot dog. Come on. Come on. That was pathetic. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:21:15 One hot dog. It was truly pathetic. You want to go to the sanctuary. Like, I had, like, a chicken, and that's all it was was a chicken. Yeah. You know how many eggs that's worth? Greatest chicken in the entire world. You know how many eggs that's worth? Greatest chicken in the entire world. You know how many eggs that's worth, Bruce?
Starting point is 00:21:27 But a hot dog? Seriously? Jake, Jake, say hot dog. Not for anything. Hot dog! Alright, Bruce, stay with us. Stay with us. Yeah. Speaking of chickens though, I'm glad to see that we have like live food and stuff this season.
Starting point is 00:21:44 That's actually really, really cool. Sabaya, would you have killed the chickens? Definitely. Sorry, Kendra. But I definitely would have killed the chickens. So, the Survivor Social Hour, Brandon, everybody gets one hot dog, you get a soda, and you play cornhole. Nary a condiment available at the Survivor Social Hour. I saw no trace of ketchup, not a relish.
Starting point is 00:22:09 He said there was no condiments. Brandon, you don't like condiments. Be real. I don't, but my friends do. I don't like condiments. They're playing cornhole. Emily, I was waiting for the, like, oh, there's, like, an idol hidden in the cornhole. Like, I think they just.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Well, not everyone was playing cornhole. Some people were still playing Survivor. Caroline. Yes. But didn't you think that there was going to be some other, like, wrinkle of, like, the cornhole game? Yeah, I was waiting for Rachel to come in with the knife, you know, Jeff Probst's knife, and open up those sandbags just to see if there was anything in there. And if not, she'll just take the sand. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Yeah, social. We're talking about the social hour. Yeah, the most interesting part was I feel like I was curious how much it seemed like the story that Sam and Sierra were running the tribe back at the Yellow Tribe, a place we know very well. And, you know, how much that might have hurt Annika in hindsight, because she was one of the people who went on the journey. Yeah, do you think that they started to compare notes? Like, all right, well, who was the person that was saying this and confirming this?
Starting point is 00:23:22 Was it you, baby Andyy or was it annika yeah i mean it was interesting because the way that sam was telling sierra he was like sitting back in the hammock he almost had like a smile on his face i feel like this is like the final piece of the puzzle he was hoping to use to sell sierra that we have to stay with andy don't you think or anyone i don't know well you know i don't agree with don't agree? Well, that's the thing about me and Sabaya. You know, she's like, oh, when there's a pair, a visible pair, she's like, let's vote out the other person instead of me. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:52 I'm still. No, honestly, like, with me and Caleb, that's also something that's always, like, in the back of your mind. So I could see, you know, Sam and Ciara feeling comfortable now, but I'm sure in the next seasons like more and more it will start to weigh in the back of their mind for sierra specifically i guess here's this big guy he's has he's an idol that he could have played and he had such luxury to not even have to play it which was a huge decision but i agree with them preserving andy and everything like that so
Starting point is 00:24:22 it'll be interesting yeah it really got into story hour of like okay tell us what happened at all of the tribal councils and then everybody was like uh comparing notes and tiana was like hey and and let me can i tell you about gabe this guy gabe but that he's looking for the idol and she she really tried to throw Gabe under the bus. It was like, she said like, hey, it worked for Gabler. This is the move.
Starting point is 00:24:53 I'm going to go to the party. And then the guy that I don't trust, I'm going to throw under the bus. But I think that this was too soon. Oh. I agree. Oh, well, I shouldn't comment on that. I liked it. I love Tiana. She's my winner pick. But agree. Oh, well, I shouldn't comment on that. I liked it.
Starting point is 00:25:06 I love Tiana. She's my winner pick. But also... Yeah? I really like Gabe. And I did notice that the room was very quiet when Gabe was talking his shit. And I have to say
Starting point is 00:25:16 that cocky people from Maryland get a really bad rap here, okay? TK, Gabe, myself. Justice for cocky people from Maryland. Yeah, can we give it up Okay? TK, Gabe, myself, justice for cocky people from Maryland. Yeah, can we give it up for the cocky people from Maryland? They have their own section. They're in the top left here, I think, somewhere.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Caleb, I know that there was more you want to talk about then. The new twist. Oh, of course. I mean, feel like uh it was uh i will say very very cool i feel like andy's one of the most self-aware people on the bottom in terms of how to play out of their positioning and that's the thing about survivor it it does follow the law of physics right every action has an equal and opposite reaction. For every new high, unfortunately for people, whether it's Annika, whether it's J. Maya, my girl, for any one person to have a moment,
Starting point is 00:26:11 it usually means it's at the detriment of somebody else. And so I think I really appreciate Andy's new spot in the game, this life that he has, because I think hopefully it's not going to be gone very soon. Yeah, he's doing great. It's a real great turnaround for Andy. Sabaya, last week we saw Sue had to cut the vine down and that does not get a candle she has to burn. She gets the red paint that she has to deal with. How would you have handled that situation? Being caught red handed, I would have took my eyes
Starting point is 00:26:45 and ran right into the ocean immediately and just washed all of it off and just left the scene. Like, honestly, I feel like she hung around a little too long. You would have just left the paint. I would have just left it because realistically,
Starting point is 00:26:59 the only thing that ties you to that scene... I was going to say that. It would have blamed on me. And I would just say I did it. The only thing that tied her to the scene was her being covered in the red paint. So as long as you can separate yourself, you're Brandon. I was going to say that. It was blamed on me. And I would just say I did it. The tighter to the scene was her being covered in the red paint. So as long as you can separate yourself, you're fine. And Bruce, you were covered in the red paint in Survivor 44, right? Oh!
Starting point is 00:27:14 No. Damn. So now why are you bringing stuff up like that? I'm still triggered by stuff. I see a board somewhere. There it is right there. There it is right there. There it is right there. So I know exactly where Sue was,
Starting point is 00:27:33 and it would have been so easy for her to go to the water well, take a little bit of a left, go down towards the water. Why didn't she do like Rome and just jump in the whole well? That would have been good too, but I don't want people to get sick. Like they would get sick from that, but she could have went around the corner and then went down into that water and just cleaned herself off. I was sitting there and my daughter actually said to me, she was, dad, she still has paint on her face.
Starting point is 00:27:54 And I'm like, oh shit, she does. And then all of a sudden Tiana was like, what's wrong with your face? What did you do? Did you cut yourself? I bit the back of my tongue. How the hell? Like I'm trying to figure it out. You bit the back of your tongue and it's like this blood everywhere what is going on here and it's on her hands and it's in your hair oh my god it's in my hair she's just like
Starting point is 00:28:12 um yeah oh I'm good that's fine just go over there I'll be fine that is what in my household was like absolute gold we're jumping around loving life it was a fun moment for sure. All right. So does the panel have anything else? Yeah, I just want to say like, I feel like for the idol that I had this season, it's been kind of represented twice.
Starting point is 00:28:36 One with the vine and then the other one with the kind of Russian doll effect. Cause my idol was like, okay, if you, it's called the marshmallow experiment you know oh yeah if you accept the you know delayed gratification you get rewarded later and i loved seeing it played out in a more like i don't know like forward way this season with the rushing doll thing so i thought that was really they've done some fun stuff caleb won't you play a shot in the dark before you leave? Come on, for old time's sake. Rob, Rob, I just
Starting point is 00:29:10 love seeing idols being played. That's what I love seeing. I love seeing them being played. All right. Why couldn't Jesse afford Billy Joel tickets? He didn't start the fire. A lot of Jesse fans apparently.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Did Brandon write these? One in six. So five out of six times you're gonna lose yeah okay that wasn't it that wasn't it
Starting point is 00:29:50 before we go can we do one more thing last time we had the Rhab show yeah Brandon Donlon went home one year ago
Starting point is 00:29:57 to one year ago he was right there and I think it takes a lot of courage to come to something like this when you know that you're gonna be voted out so could everyone just clap again for Annika oh I think I takes a lot of courage to come to something like this when you know that you're going to be voted out.
Starting point is 00:30:05 So could everyone just clap again for Annika? I think I'll say for Brandon. And for Brandon Donnelly. I'm sure it's hard, but at the same time, there's nowhere else you're going to go where you're going to feel so much love from people as well. It's a tough thing for any of us to go through. No winners here, right? We've all experienced it. All right.
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Starting point is 00:32:29 So you got, you got something for me really quick. So the Mets are on right now and I know there's such overlap between survivor fans and sports, particularly baseball. There is here. So I'm, I'm re I'm,
Starting point is 00:32:44 I'm watching it on my phone I've never watched this like recreationally I've been at games but I look at the planes in the sky it's 2-0 we're not winning we is in the Mets but if there's a score change I'm gonna run up and just tell you what it is I'll be in the corner Thank you. If you don't see me that's why
Starting point is 00:33:00 that's what happened. I never imagined the Mets would still be playing when we planned a live show on October 16th. I didn't think it would happen. Now look at me. But I'm dedicated. Okay. Alright. We have another great panel that's coming up. Here we go. Lindsey Carmine is here.
Starting point is 00:33:17 We've got Janine. We've got Dwight. We've got Tevin. We've got Ben. Hey everybody. Tevin, we've got Ben! Hey everybody! Tevin, I almost wore the same exact thing. I know you did. I know you did.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Yes. Okay, alright. I want to talk a little bit about the Tuku tribe, okay? And so it's great. We've got some Survivor 43 here to talk about this with me. And, of course, they're a blue tribe, and they're, you know, a dysfunctional tribe.
Starting point is 00:33:52 We had a dysfunctional season, dude. Yeah. So I want to talk a little bit about what happened tonight with Tiana and her decision to tell everybody about what was, yes. Let me tap on your shoulder. Okay, Tiana's also my winner pick. Okay, there will be, yes, that's correct. Tiana's my winner pick.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Thank you, thank you, thank you. So there will be no Tiana Slander on this stage. I'm just letting that be known now. There will be no Tiana Slander, and we will go from there. I have to beg to differ. I'm sorry. Oh, okay. I love Tiana. I'm sorry. Oh, okay. I love Tiana.
Starting point is 00:34:25 I love her. But I also, I did sympathize with Sue coming from someone who's been on the other side of someone really, you know, throwing your number one ally under the bus in front of a public forum. It's hard. It's hard to come back from. And yeah, so I just want to,
Starting point is 00:34:40 there's two sides to this. And powerful women who deserve. No, and I suspect that's probably what Tiana was thinking about thinking back to your season where, okay, this is a good spot where I'm going to... Here's somebody that I don't feel so good about. I'm going to offer that up. But just the difference was that
Starting point is 00:34:57 that was actually a group vote where there was the ability to take action on that. And this was a week early or an episode early to do that and then so they come back and this is I thought this was very interesting of okay so they knew what had happened it was really it was so interesting that the whole other the whole rest of the tribe was there except for Gabe. And so it's Caroline who says that I think you need to go tell Gabe what happened and apologize. And so I thought it was so interesting, sort of like the half-truth that Tiana decides to reveal to Gabe. And also the half-truth, I'm intrigued by
Starting point is 00:35:39 the choice of what she chose to say because Caroline told him like, hey, like, you know, that's what was said. And Tiana's story was, I said something in private, which doesn't line up with how would Caroline know what happened, right? So it's kind of a, she already kind of shot herself in the foot with the half truth that was gonna be easily exposed by both Sue and Caroline there. But also I think it showed how much social credit
Starting point is 00:35:59 Caroline has to, you know, for both Gabe and Tiana to kind of tell Gabe, hey, this happened. Tell Tiana, hey, you need to go confess up. And both sides kind of respect Caroline's opinion there. So I'm really intrigued by what that shows about Caroline's position on that tribe. How are we doing? No slanders so far.
Starting point is 00:36:15 I'm keeping it cool. I'm keeping it cute. Well, my question is, if somebody came up to you and they were like, you're going to have to throw yourself under the bus and then apologize, would you guys do it no like i would find every reason under the sun to avoid that
Starting point is 00:36:31 conversation right and how do you do that yeah but this tribe it's been interesting because also then there was like a lot of like okay you have to when tk had said the thing and then there was like okay tk should apologize to tiana and there's a lot of like, in this tribe, that, you know, every tribe is different. There's a lot of like, okay, you need to go apologize to that person. I think there's been a lot of mansplaining this season on how to play. And I think if everyone took a step back and maybe said, oh, how should I play this game, as opposed to how should I teach someone else in my tribe to play this game? Things would be a lot different.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Is there a different way that Tiana could have handled everything when they got back to the camp? I think you kind of dug yourself too deep to not discuss with the rest of your tribe that you're throwing somebody under the bus. And no slander on tiana you rock yeah uh but i do think there's only two options you either own it or you start playing even extra hard when you get back yeah and uh you can't give the half lie that other people can account for which would not rock it was discussed at the last tribal too that gabe looks for idols so you know you can just say that like yeah i told him you look for idols. Also, I wish they showed us because I can only imagine Gabe must have torn that island apart. Oh, no doubt.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Because like I was thinking when I saw the Tribal, so like Gabe was alone from blue and Tina was alone from red I kind of would you know if you lose that's not too bad You get to go look for idols and everything on your own for an hour or two so. Kevin this is why we need two hour episodes. So we could show... No, no, no. What I will say about Sue is that yes, yes ma'am Sue for going to go tell your number one.
Starting point is 00:38:14 My number one did not tell me that I was going home the night I went home. That did not happen. So for Sue to go tell Gabe and be like, listen, your name is out there so that Gabe can retaliate and find a way to slide out of that is absolutely the right thing to um right thing to do yeah i do think that tiana's in a tough spot because when they voted out tk that tiana got told like hey like uh we're gonna do the epic girl boss move tonight and it's the women working together
Starting point is 00:38:40 and so she doesn't really even know that Gabe is actually with Sue and Caroline. So it's a little bit of a tricky spot, and it must be harder to go to something like this with your whole tribe as opposed to Teenie who got to go just all alone and not have anybody there to tattle. I mean, like what you said, I'm impressed at this point that, you know, Sue, Caroline and Gabe have kind of kept their alliance under wraps
Starting point is 00:39:07 to the point where you know like Tiana had no idea she was putting herself in so much danger doing that with everybody there because she thought you know I'm people
Starting point is 00:39:14 who won't go tell Gabe and instantly that obviously blows up in her face and I'm trying to see how that plays out in the next episode because it's going to hit the merge
Starting point is 00:39:20 and I can only imagine Gabe's going to be gunning after her hard with the other tribe sure yeah okay Janine you have the hottest takes here because they're going to hit the merge, and I can only imagine Gabe's going to be gunning after her hard with the other tribe. Sure. Yeah. Okay, Janine, you have the hottest takes here. Let me bounce this one off. Sorry, sorry, sorry.
Starting point is 00:39:31 I've been trying to withhold. Don't be sorry. Should Tuku have thrown the challenge today to get rid of Tiana at the point where she's throwing Gabe under the bus? I mean, I'm sorry. This is not a hot take, but as a Survivor fan, you should never throw a challenge
Starting point is 00:39:48 that is just like against any fiber. I love this, I love this. I'm so sorry. As an old school server. I have to beg to differ. I'm gonna have to tap you on your shoulder now like you did to me earlier. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:39:59 I have a very hot take. I believe that if you do not go to tribal council before Merge, your tribe will always fall apart. Nami fell apart. Nami was the only people that were not there. I do believe that you do not go to tribal council before merge, your tribe will always fall apart. Nami fell apart. Nami was the only people that were not there. I agree with that. I do believe that you have to go to tribal because you do not know where the tribal lines are
Starting point is 00:40:11 until that parchment is written on. But that doesn't mean that you're on top of the tribal line. That depends for a player. Exactly. If you don't know where you are, then you're not going to want to go to tribal. Listen, you need to go to tribal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Caroline's talking about, hey, I need to get this five back together lindsey so that is that the is that the right move to try to heal this uh group again as someone who tried to do that um it's it's almost once the lines are fractured i think it's it's impossible to kind of recover from it's like you know with a family fight, it's estranged. You're going to have to let it just mull over and do its own thing. There's nothing you can do to corral or Australian shepherd things back into their right
Starting point is 00:40:53 place. Yeah. Okay. Can I say something about the challenges, though, while we're on that point? I do appreciate... Janine is on fire. Sorry, sorry. This is the last time I will say an observation. I appreciate the game makers trying to throw some twists and turns,
Starting point is 00:41:12 like the social happy hour and the puzzle. The fact that it was a little bit more complex in that the less time you have to take it down, the less time you have to study it and build it back up. So, I don't know. I thought that was like a little tweak that I'm like, okay, Survivor, they do care, and they're changing the structure of the challenges in a way that is, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:34 as super fans, nice to know. Yeah. And please keep sharing your takes, Janine. Okay. Ben, won't you play a shot in the dark? Come on. I would play a shot in the Dark by Ozzy Osbourne off his album The Ultimate Sin. You want me to grab one of those?
Starting point is 00:41:51 Yeah, come on. Do you want Ben to play A Shot in the Dark? A shot in the dark. Okay, what do you got? Before I ask, yo, I'm like really hungry. Does anybody have any snacks? I got triggered watching Survivor. I want to eat, you know? Does anybody in Does anybody have any snacks? I get triggered watching Survivor. I want to eat, you know?
Starting point is 00:42:07 Does anybody in the audience have any snacks for Ben? Just one hot dog. Yeah. Mellie, you got snacks? You actually have snacks? Yeah. Sorry, let's go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Yes. Okay. Mellie has like a meal prep here. Like, leftovers. Here, just read the shot in the dark. We're on a timetable. I want to get a different one, though. We're on a timetable.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Yeah. Okay, here we go. Dog, you lived in the jungle, too. Don't act like you wouldn't eat it. Okay, real quick. Real quick. What state do the most survivor players live in? What?
Starting point is 00:42:49 Denial. Oh! Okay, all right. Thank you to the great panel. Thanks, Rob. Great job. Hey, you rock. Thank you, Tevin.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Yeah, take care, all right? Thank you, thank you. Yes, all right, Brandon, you got an update for me? What's going on with it? What's going on? I have horrible news. Oh, no. Yeah, take care. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Yes. All right, Brandon, you got an update for me? What's going on with it? What's going on? I have horrible news. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:43:10 It's remarkably bad. What happened? There were two more runs that were scored. Not our team. Yeah? Not our team. Mike Turner just left. He was upset.
Starting point is 00:43:21 I don't know if he's still here. He doesn't look happy. No, he doesn't. He's actually coming up here now. That's it. I'll be back. Alright, alright. Let's bring up another panel here. We've got coming up here a big one here.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Okay. It's the Purple Pants Band Espresso Isaiah. It's Izzy. It's Wendyzy. It's Sydney and Tiffany. Next panel. next panel. And Mike Turner and Kevin Jacobs. Tiffany, where's the pizza?
Starting point is 00:43:57 Usually you give me about two seconds notice before I have to deliver a pizza and look like a total fool on stage. So we're not going to do that tonight. Okay. Robert, can I get something off my chest real quick? Yes. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Because I was sitting in my seat today. Hey, y'all. I was sitting in my seat, and I said, Lord Jesus, let me be a rope. Because if I was a rope, I would want somebody like Andy to come just chop me off. Because I said, oh! There it is. Andy! Okay. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Sorry. How was his form cutting the rope? Doggy. Okay. Sorry. Why do you put me up here with this guy? Let me switch these. I got a little moist.
Starting point is 00:44:39 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Get that out of here. The problem is he would cut you with the dull side. Is he? Yeah. You want to look at him? Mike, how you holding up? I'm not doing good right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Look, if you find the Mets are doing so well. First of all, what the heck are we doing here on a Wednesday night doing a Mets game? Mike, I can't change the date. If anything, the Mets screwed us up. I had this date planned for three months. Hey, we never thought we'd ever be here as a Met fan. And look at us. Miserable
Starting point is 00:45:12 again. Miserable again. That's how we like it. Okay, I want to talk about what's going on with the Lavo tribe. Okay? We had, you know, they went to two tribal councils in a row. They avoid tribal council, but they still had a lot of interesting stuff going on there this week.
Starting point is 00:45:29 And first of all, let's start with Teenie, who's in such an interesting position. Went on the journey last week. Got to go to the Survivor Social Hour this week, solo. How do you think Teenie is set up now going into the merge?
Starting point is 00:45:47 Well, can you just remind me what she did at the Social Hour? Because I was sitting between Tevin and Davey, and they were a little bit distracting. Oh, my bad, my bad. You're still here, my bad. They did something more than the first merge boot at Winners at War, is what happened. Just some.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Bryce, I've turned over a new leaf. I'm going to be nice to you today. Oh, Winners at War? Thank you. I'm so tired. Yeah. I'm exhausted. Anybody else tired?
Starting point is 00:46:18 Or is it just me? You see? I'm exhausted. I'm old. Tiffany is never exhausted. Trust me. No, I'm fine. I just need to, like, wake up for a minute. I'm exhausted. I'm old. Tiffany is never exhausted. Trust me. No, I'm fine. I just need to, like, wake up for a minute.
Starting point is 00:46:26 I'm good. This has nothing to do with Survivor whatsoever. But I just thought I'd tell you. I was tired. Okay. Moving on. Moving on. Well, I think Teenie was in a precarious position because she was the only one sent on the journey.
Starting point is 00:46:40 I'm sorry. Sent to the... Yeah. Hank Social Hour. Social Hour. From her tribe. the Hank Social Hour from her tribe. I also think my man Rome I love watching Rome. I love it.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Can we get a shout out to my man Rome? Shout him out. I love Rome too. He's very entertaining. Saul's my man. No side conversation. I was. Saul's my man. Hey, no side conversation. I was saying Saul's my man. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:08 He's trying to run his own podcast over here. I was talking to you, actually. Well, stop talking to me. You get me very nervous. I know. I have that effect on men. Yeah. Or man.
Starting point is 00:47:20 One man. One man. Kevin, how you doing? Tiffany's making me very nervous up here. Like, I'm nervous. I was, I'm, I'm, I'm a Canadian. I was on the New York subway today and there were like two crazy groups of people like going at each other. And I was trying to figure out like, who would I rather hurt me? That is law though. That is law though. And I'll tell you how you, all these people are very, very, very smart. We got Rome, Genevieve, Teenie, Saul all going at it, running around, trying to hurt
Starting point is 00:47:46 each other. It is actually like the New York subway. They're all good at this. They're all trying to one-up each other. It's electric. I don't know if I could live there. I don't know if I could live in New York, but it's a lot of fun. That was pretty good. What was Genevieve's line today? She said something smooth.
Starting point is 00:48:02 The scales be tipping. She's a real one for that. She's invited to the cookout. She's a real one. Does she get? Never mind, because if I was invited to the cookout, I'd get more than one hot dog. Veggie dog? Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:48:16 You know, I need a hundred cent meat. By the way, not for nothing, I love hot dogs, but that vegetarian hot dog did not look good at all out there. I'm not sure I could eat that thing. Excuse me, I don't know if any of you know this about me, but I love talking about the bathroom. So I just want to shout out Saul.
Starting point is 00:48:37 He's the one who said, oh, fart, right? Oh, did he say that? He said, fart. Fart. Fart. What I wouldn't have given to have been that person at that moment who said that, that was so great. I just sat down. Why did he say that? Because he wanted to say fuck, but he said fart, sorry. He's like in a good place?
Starting point is 00:48:56 Yeah, he was like, I'm gonna use my good word that I have. Tiffany, you had your great moment on Survivor, the balance beam. It was a lot like our friend who was sawing the stick, only I was doing it onto the balance beam instead. But nobody talks about that as being a good moment. You know what that reminds me of, though, Tiffany? Oh, here we go.
Starting point is 00:49:18 No, I'm just saying. Y'all remember Tim from season 46? Yeah. Okay. Shout out to my Tim. The way Lord Jesus just came over me and said, say Tim from 46. So.
Starting point is 00:49:31 All right. Okay. What? All right. Izzy. Izzy. Okay. I am wondering with this red tribe, how are they going to function when they get into the Mergatory?
Starting point is 00:49:47 Because they really are, it seems like they're going in all these different directions. And I'm wondering if they're like, I feel like that Rome is the least of their problems. I feel like that Teenie is about to leave them high and dry. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:50:00 Yes, they're all leaving each other once the Merge happens. For sure. They're not staying together. I think Tini was in an awesome position at the social hour, actually, because Tiana's mistake was not necessarily what happened when they got back to the beach, but being the first of multiple people from your tribe to speak.
Starting point is 00:50:18 That's a dangerous position to be in. You don't know what Sue are thinking, right? And then you're just going up there with something really intense, you know? Like, that's complicated. Teenie can say whatever. And Teenie's also already connected with Andy and with Caroline of having the three-way idol, so Teenie's already very incentivized
Starting point is 00:50:38 to leave this group. 100%. Teenie will have that solo idol. I know it. Yeah. Is that a threat or a promise? Threat. It was a threat.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Okay. First one's a shot in the dark. You want to do a shot in the dark? I say Wendell, stop playing. Wendell, go ahead and do it. Wendell, go ahead and do it. All right, Wendell's got it. Come on, Wendell.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Shot in the dark for Wendell. Wendell, take it. Okay, what do you got? What do we have here? What does Jeff Probst call... What does Jeff Probst call Johnny Fairplay? Johnny's my friend.
Starting point is 00:51:16 You want me to read it? I'll say it. Trick question. He doesn't. Ha ha ha ha ha! I don't like it. These writers. He doesn't. What? I don't like it. These writers. The writers are like very... A little rude.
Starting point is 00:51:31 That's a little rude. That's mean, man. Yeah. Robert, I... You know, I got a little wet this episode. I also had an issue. Sorry. Did somebody spill a drink?
Starting point is 00:51:41 Something like that. I also had an issue this episode with the Yellow Tribe. Yes. Because for some reason, I became a hen. And when I became a hen, I was like, you know what? If I'm a hen, I'm going to do Sue Mass. So I'm 22 years old, right?
Starting point is 00:51:55 And I also felt like, well, if I'm 22, why is Sam just throwing me away? I can produce 20 eggs a day, Sam. I'm just saying. I can produce 20 eggs a day, Sam. I'm just saying. I can produce 20 eggs. I mean, yeah, you make a good point. What's happening? I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:52:15 I'm super happy over here. Kevin, are you feeling like you're back on the subway? This is electric. I like this. I feel like I'm with Lavo. We're just having fun attacking each other yeah 30 eggs yeah you know what i thought was a really interesting moment with lava also was when saul went back to genevieve and just basically said like boy genevieve i can't believe it like rome yeah rome told saul like hey genevieve doesn't want to work with you he's like
Starting point is 00:52:41 genevieve i'm really hurt i thought you wanted to work with me rome saidieve doesn't want to work with you. He's like, Genevieve, I'm really hurt. I thought you wanted to work with me. Rome said you didn't want to. I feel like that not everybody does that on Survivor. It's like, well, now I got to work against Genevieve to just come out and say the thing that you had heard. Like, that was pretty wild. It's amazing how in life and in Survivor, just having a tough conversation sometimes can save you a lot of stress.
Starting point is 00:53:03 And for Genevieve, she's like, yeah, that is true. I did say that, but I didn't want Saul to know it. That was pretty good. Yeah. I didn't make it this far in the episode, so I wouldn't know what I would do in that situation. I'd be home. Tiffany, what else are you thinking about this season?
Starting point is 00:53:22 I'm thinking a lot about what's happening over there in that corner. I'm concerned. Yep, yep, that one, that corner with the sunglasses. Now I know why you were wearing the sunglasses. You were having a whole moment with that show. With Saul. I saw it. With Saul.
Starting point is 00:53:39 His whole side is New York Fashion Week. Look at them. The whole moment. Y'all look incredible. Are you asking me what I'm thinking? Yeah. Well, I'm thinking? Yeah. Well, I was thinking about how I didn't go on a social and that hot dog would have been really good and I would have eaten the freaking chicken or three of them.
Starting point is 00:53:52 And I was also thinking that if I was Jonathan on that episode and you had 18 eggs, that wouldn't have even been enough for him. Yeah, that's a- So that negotiation sucks. That's like a snack for Jonathan. That's a snack. So I was thinking about that. 45, Sam.
Starting point is 00:54:05 Jonathan would eat one of his tribe members. Yeah, he was going all like, yeah. That's what I was, I was also thinking that because of the way he's talking tonight, I was thinking about the show that I'm watching, Tell Me Lies, which is so good. I'm just saying. Have you been watching it? A little. Oh my God, obsessed.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Okay. That's a different podcast. That's a different podcast. But anyway, that's what I was thinking. You asked me what I was thinking. That is true. I opened God, obsessed. Okay. That's a different podcast. That's a different podcast. But anyway, that's what I was thinking. You asked me what I was thinking. That is true. I opened up Pandora's box. That's what I was thinking.
Starting point is 00:54:30 This is why I did not get past where I got on Survivor. Izzy, what else are you seeing from this season? I'm loving this season. I think this is a great season. I think like a lot of people are really thinking. I think a lot of decisions are being made, you know? I think, yeah, yeah. I wasn't happy with who went home tonight, but you know, I was, I would have tried to do something weird, convince Sam to play his idol for Andy. Everyone vote for Andy, but they actually all vote for Sam. Get rid of
Starting point is 00:55:02 Sam. Sam's causing Sierra problems, Right? She's got the two girls already at the social hour. They're maybe connecting up with more people. Do you feel like that Sierra made the right decision? No. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:13 But that's, you know, I'm biased. You know? Yeah. That's all. That's my thoughts. That's my thoughts.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Okay. You know what? I thought they were going to, at one point, I thought that they were going to blindside Andy. Because like, he's,
Starting point is 00:55:24 he's thinking of this crazy strategy, which is actually- That's working. I think it's a great strategy. Bryce, may I finish? I'm just saying tread lightly about Andy. You know, I also need to teach Andy how to saw. You know what I'm saying? Yes, you did.
Starting point is 00:55:40 That would be great. It's just a longer motion, Andy. That's all it is. Oh, stop that. Oh, God. And That would be great. It's just a longer motion, Andy. That's all it is, okay? Oh, not that. Oh, God. And I'm the problem. Not like that.
Starting point is 00:55:51 No, not like... You know what? Do we have another seat? Great job tonight, Andy. That's all. Okay. All right. All right. I'm getting the signal.
Starting point is 00:55:58 I got to wrap up with this group, okay? Bring the lawyers in. Thank you all so much. Thank you. One more panel to get to. Nothing's wrong with me. Okay. Are you tired of me yet? No. Never the lawyers. Thank you all so much. Thank you. One more panel to get through. Okay. Are you tired of me yet? No, never, never. Okay. Thank you all so much. Okay. All right. We've got one more panel coming up and this is, we got to talk about this negotiation that happened. We haven't even talked about this yet. Okay. And so we've brought in some
Starting point is 00:56:25 of our top negotiators and litigators around to talk about this. So please welcome who's coming up here. We've got Eliza, Jake, Sydney, and Katara. Tiffany said this one's not working. Here, grab that one right there the chair is fine Tiffany said the mic's not working we gotta talk about this negotiation okay all the mic's working okay
Starting point is 00:56:57 how's everybody doing? hi Rob, hi Keturah how are you? I'm great, you've got your lawyer panel up here look at these lawyers. All the lawyers. We miss you, Charlie. We love you. I hope you passed the bar exam. Please pass the bar. He did. Come on.
Starting point is 00:57:13 He's getting his results tomorrow, so fingers crossed for Charlie. I'm sure he's fine. Fingers crossed. He's fine. He's fine. He's fine. He's fine. Okay. Fine. Alright. Okay. Oops. Just kidding. Just kidding. I'm talking to you. In spirit. Okay. Charlie, wherever you are. Let's recenter over here. Okay. All right. Okay. Oops. Just kidding. Just kidding. I'm talking in spirit. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Let's recenter over here. Okay. Let's talk to the people on the stage. Let's talk about what's going on with the chickens. Oh, okay. So three live chickens get given to the survivors. Here you go.
Starting point is 00:57:43 This is your reward. Three live chickens. The chickens got returned like when I see something, a jacket on Amazon, and I'm like, all right, let me try that, and I take it right back to Kohl's. They returned the reward. Outrageous. Truly. I mean, I don't know. I thought we were past the point of loving the chickens so much that they
Starting point is 00:58:07 can't be killed dude i i'd wrangle that shit why are we not eating at least one i mean if you've never you know the phrase running around with a chick like a chicken with your head cut off if you've never cut off a chicken's head how would you even know the physical manifestation of that phrase you ever have ever have chickens, Lila? We killed chickens. Ozzy chopped its head off, and it ran around with its head cut off, and we ate it, and it was delicious. I haven't experienced that. Sorry, not sorry.
Starting point is 00:58:36 You know, I just wonder, like, for the survivors, are they feeling, like, any sort of, like, social pressure of, like, I don't want to kill the chicken. I don't want to be the one that kills the chicken dude if you're starving what the hell is a social pressure kill the chicken also they're not starving it's 26 days a chicken a free large chicken
Starting point is 00:58:58 unpopular well they're not actually as big as they were before I feel like they're kind of small this season that means they're organic which is good we don't want like hormone infused chicken, you know? But we want calm chicken. We want chicken. We need free range chicken rewards. That's it.
Starting point is 00:59:12 I just want to say I would not kill the chicken on the island. Whatever. See ya. But, but. Oh, wait. Hold up, hold up. Can I finish? Can I finish?
Starting point is 00:59:24 Can I finish? I'm not going to stop a person with a machete. You know what I mean? Yeah. I'm not going to stand in front of him. Okay. Well, look, we've got our legal experts here. So I want to know about this negotiation.
Starting point is 00:59:37 Okay. So they bring back three live chickens and say, Jeff, hey, you know what? About that. Second place was six eggs. We would like to exchange the chicken for 24 eggs. And Jeff does not say, get the hell out of here. He also doesn't pull out a knife and randomly stab a bag of rice.
Starting point is 00:59:58 So I think they're doing okay. Okay. You don't want them? I'll take them. Oh, my God. Where's the guy? Okay, who wants them then? And let the other tribes take them.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Be like, oh, you don't want them? Really? There's no return policy here. Sorry. And just taking them from that tribe. Yes, what's the legal precedent? Legally speaking, there needs to be like a fair negotiation. There needs to be like somewhat equal bargaining power. Do you know
Starting point is 01:00:26 where we were? This is a right. So that's the thing. This isn't a negotiation like Jeff could just straight up, which I think Jeff should have just been like, nah, there's no consideration. Exactly. What happened to spicy Jeff? This wasn't that spicy. It wasn't. It wasn't. It was.
Starting point is 01:00:41 The chicken was plain. It was very mild. It was soft, Jeff. 18 eggs? No, he came mild. It was soft, Jeff. And he gave him 15 eggs? 18 eggs? No, he came back. He came up from 15. He gave him 18. Oh, he went up to 18?
Starting point is 01:00:51 18. Oh, come on. Was this day nine? That's a lot of eggs. I think it was day nine. That's a good amount of eggs. I know that. I was shocked.
Starting point is 01:00:57 I don't think it's like a bad deal. Like, that's pretty good. Oh, yeah. You got 15 eggs? Yeah, so I looked up the nutritional information. Oh. Okay. Numbers, love it.
Starting point is 01:01:06 And so the three chickens divided by five people is like about 1,000 calories each person. And then 18 eggs for five people was only like 250 calories per person. So they ended up trading down, but it did seem like a pretty generous and easy exchange. They're still at a calorie deficit. I mean, the merge is about to happen, right? And that's going to get dispersed as soon as you hit the merge. So it's like either you're going to pound 18 eggs, like no problem, right? How big of a mistake was it to not make the fire before they went to the challenge where they could potentially lose the flint?
Starting point is 01:01:50 It's mind-bogglingly idiotic. What were they doing? Honestly. We never came back from a challenge and didn't have a fire going. Like, what were they thinking? They're probably thinking they might win. Or that they could just do it with like, don't people do it with like sunglasses and like sticks
Starting point is 01:02:08 and shit? No one's thinking that. I don't think sunglasses are ideal. I'm thinking that on Survivor. But wait, Rob, I know we're going to wrap this panel. We would be remiss to have a legal panel here not to talk about the lawyer on this season who is absolutely crushing it.
Starting point is 01:02:24 And who is just, I mean, what an extraordinary breakout last two episodes Genevieve has had. Shout out to Genevieve. You are representing the lawyers. Representing lawyers. Doing this. So proud.
Starting point is 01:02:35 Please do better than us. Please do better than us. Slow start. And now Genevieve's kind of killing it. Killing it. Killing it. Rushing it. Slow start, but coming on strong
Starting point is 01:02:43 these last two episodes. Does anybody want to play the shot in the dark before we start to wrap things up? Eliza, do you want to try it? Jake. Do you want to try it, Eliza? I feel like it should be you, Jake. Wait, I'm going to do it?
Starting point is 01:02:54 Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake. Okay. I thought you loved these new era twists so much you might want to give it a shot. You know what I mean? For those who are just listening at home, there was a really big eye roll. Huge. these new era twists so much you might want to give it a shot. You know what I mean? For those who are just listening at home, there was a really big eye roll.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Huge. Okay. Jake? Why did Tony Vlachos sneak into the NBA Hall of Fame? Why? So he could spy Shaq. That's with a Q, like Shaquille O'Neal. Oh, my God!
Starting point is 01:03:25 Who wrote this, Rob? Okay. All right. Well, all right. Okay. All right. That's our time here tonight, people. You were an amazing crowd.
Starting point is 01:03:42 We've still got some fun still tonight, but outside of the podcast. Thank you all for coming up and talking through the chicken negotiation with us from tonight. New York City, you've been amazing. Woo!
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