RHAP: We Know Survivor - Survivor 47 Pre-Game Day 6: Sam & Sierra

Episode Date: September 10, 2024

Today, Rob and Mike discuss the last two players on the Gato tribe, Sam Phalen and Sierra Wright.

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Companion, only in theaters January 31st. Hey everybody, what's going on? Rob Sestrino back. Hey, everybody. What's going on? Rob Sestrino back. It's day six of our Survivor 47 preseason scramble, and we are getting ready two days appropriately here for Sam and Sierra back here with Mr. Preseason. Give it up for Mike Bloom. Domo arigata, Mr. Robotaata we're here to finish off talking gata today all right mike you gotta stop okay i'm just taking a trip through time i made the 90s reference then the 80s reference so unfortunately we gotta go when it comes to the god of tribe but not before we talk about our last two members and do a little bit of prognosticating, Rob, as to now that you know this six somehow,

things might work out initially. Great. You gotta make sure you're subscribed to make sure you don't miss anything from the past five days or the next three days as we will round out with one more tribe here in our preseason. This is really like a mad dash here

in the shortest preseason ever as we are getting ready for survivor 47 make sure you go to rob as a website.com slash subscribe to get the links to subscribe so you don't miss any of it mike all right we've got sam and we've got sierra anything you want to tee up here for sam all right so samelan, hopefully not Phelan when it comes to this game. Sam, I believe actually, Rob, this might surprise you. Yeah. I think Sam is the first American Survivor contestant named Sam. Wow.

OK. I mean, does not surprise me considering how much we talk about the past seasons of Survivor. But good to know. Yeah. So look, he's first of his name in many ways, and he hopes to rule over the kingdom, though he is more of a Titan because Sam is 24 years old and he is a sports reporter. Specifically, he is a beat reporter for the Tennessee Titans. Such a media heavy season. It's is a beat reporter for the Tennessee Titans. Such a media-heavy season. It's like, this is like a backdoor theme.

Yeah, so I want to talk about that, actually, for a second before we get into Sam, because, yeah, it is wild. And Sam will probably be, and actually, Sierra, we'll talk about, has a little bit of broadcast journalism experience as well. But it is weird. No theme to this season.

Obviously, it's new era. But we have Sam Rome, esports commentator. John Lovett quite obviously works in commentary. Asia has experience in podcasting. And I actually asked Jeff about this as well. And he did say it was entirely coincidental. But he does point out that, like, hey, a large part of the reason why you get on the show in the first place is that you have a great way of words and expressing yourself and describing things in a very colorful and entertaining way. And so I think it makes a lot of sense. It's just kind of wild to see a confluence of them all together.

And it also does make me think to go back a little bit to our talks on John Lovett. You could think on paper with any of these people. Oh, well, with their day to day, they're such good talkers. We can't let them get to the end because their persuasive skills are going to take over at a final tribal council. If there is a season for one of these types of people to succeed, it would be this one where there are so many of them that it kind of all neutralizes each other out. OK, Mike, anything else you want to set up about Sam before we listen to your conversation with him?

No, let's go to the sidelines and do some nice pregame conversation with Sam Phelan. All right, Sam Phelan is standing by. Let's go out to Sam. All right, well, to start things off, let's just jump into it. Why don't you give me your name, age, and your occupation? My name is Sam Phelan.

I'm 24 years old, and I'm a sports reporter. OK, so what's like the the main team, the main sphere, I should say, that you're kind of I mean, the sports are all about spheres. But I guess from that different capacity, I work in the NFL, so I cover the Tennessee Titans. I live in Nashville and I'm a, I'm a beat reporter. So I am boots on the ground in the locker room, getting my microphone in with different players, side conversation, schmoozing the quarterback to get the latest update about an injury, reporting the news to all the fans out there, and then firing off articles, podcasts, my takes about what's going on in the sports world. So yeah, it's a dream come true as far as a job is concerned,

for sure. Yeah. Timing wise, I imagine you were just like balls to the wall with the draft and then you hopped into doing Survivor right afterwards. Dude. Yeah. It was like full, full swing, full tilt boogie, as Jeff would say on draft content. And then like six days later, I'm on a plane to Los Angeles and then Fiji and like, here we go. So my world went from like full digital all the time to like now I'm just stripped down with nothing but my thoughts in the water. Well, let's go from your transition

from covering the Titans to hopefully becoming a Titan in this game. Talk to me about your history watching Survivor and what made you decide to go from spectator, observer, commentator to player? Mike, I'm a day one fan like it Wednesday nights, Survivor nights. That was my Super Bowl growing up, man. Like that was I mean, a lot coming from you, especially. Yeah, I would go to church every night and then I'd be

like trying to get out of church ASAP. I'm like, Mom, Dad, we got to watch Survivor tonight. I got to go talk about it with people who don't care at school tomorrow, because I just have to talk about it with somebody. So every night would go home, would watch it, became obsessed with the show. Like everybody goes and plays with the kids in their neighborhood and just like tries to make up their own games. I forced every kid in my neighborhood to play survivor. We would sit on my trampoline. I would be Jeff. We'd vote each other out on post-it notes. We do challenges in the backyard. I made my own survivor We'd vote each other out on post-it notes. We'd do challenges in the backyard. I made my own survivor back then. So this is like the lifetime dream here that is now coming to fruition in Fiji. How long have you been applying for when you decide to make

the transition from post-it notes to parchment? Yeah. So this is my, it was my second application. I kind of consider it my first application. I did one, like, I think it, when I was like 19 or 18 years old, like right when I became eligible, um, probably a really bad application that just had like, I would be ashamed if that ever found its way to leak, like whatever video I submitted back then. Um, I just didn't know myself quite as much. I didn't like have a real sense of like peace within myself.

I didn't have cool stuff going on in my life and life experiences that like shaped me for the game. And I kind of felt like now is the time. Like I felt really good about it. I'm engaged. I'm getting married next next year. Wow. And so I'm just like, I don't know.

I submitted application, felt great about it. Got a call a couple of days later. And here I am. Well, congratulations. You speak about those life experiences. If you could boil it down to one that you feel will most inform the way that you approach Survivor, what would that life experience be? I hate to bring everything back to my job all the time, but I really do feel like being a sports reporter is like playing Survivor every day. I am like dealing with professional athletes. You are

a professional ego stroker. You are making people feel good about themselves. You are asking the right questions to get information. You are capitalizing on information and to get information, you have to build solid relationships with a player, an agent, a coach, an executive, whoever it is. So I feel like that has really made me equipped to play this game, to be what everybody needs me to be individually. And that might be different for a different person or a different relationship of like,

how can I be your safe space to tell me stuff? And then how do I use it to my advantage? So if you could give me a winner and a non-winner from Survivor who you identify with the most, are you pulling from any of those NFL players that have graced the beaches? No, no, I hope not. They don't do very well. So hopefully the media does better than the players. So it's hard. I don't know if there's genuinely like a winner like me that has played Survivor. Maybe that's bad for me maybe it means

i'm due i don't know uh i would say the winner i'll go michelle fitzgerald uh survivor cal wrong i i love michelle i admire michelle i think she is super like gritty a lot more than just her appearance i i think she found a way to be like socially adaptable, insulate herself, never really raised her head too high or too low and found a way to like navigate the game and be well liked by everybody. So love her non-winner. I'll go Devin Pinto. Oh, there's a name I haven't heard in a while. I love Devin Pinto. I think he played a super underrated game. And the reason I say that is I don't think you often see the athletic frat bro archetype like bros bro survivor player play and number one, not care to be in control or be the alpha of the game and to find a way to have strong relationships across the board. And so that's kind of the game that I want to play. I don't want control early

on. I don't want to be in charge early on. I just want to be your extra vote, your person, your safe space to go. And then I'm going to make a late run when it's too late. Of course, being a reporter, your goal, especially from a sports perspective, right, is to get an answer, is to get something out of someone

that you can use later on. How much do you think that's going to translate into a game like Survivor, let alone also be at the sort of like beck and call of a report from Jeff Probst as well? Yeah, huge. I think like I read body language whenever somebody talks to me in the locker room.

I read body language before I talk to somebody in the locker room. Is that guy in a mood to talk today? He just cost his team the game and missed the 35-yard field goal. Should I really go and stick a microphone in his face and say, hey, how are you feeling right now?

I know not to ask the dumb questions that are going to rub people the wrong way. And I know how to, like I said earlier, kind of phrase your question in a way that strokes

the ego of somebody, makes them feel good, that makes them more willing to maybe give up something they don't want to tell, they shouldn't tell you. There have been many times in my work life where I've asked a question, I've immediately turned and sent a text over to my boss and like got a great quote out of somebody. Like he gave me a lot of information. That's really good stuff. So I think that'll help me when I'm, you know,

asking where the votes are going, asking how they feel about somebody, you know, even reading into, like you said, what somebody's saying to Jeff at tribal council. And do they really mean that when they say it? So I would imagine that that's probably the biggest superpower you're bringing in. Understandably so. What would you say is your biggest piece of kryptonite that you're bringing in? Oh, can I add another superpower? I do think. Listen, absolutely.

Take on as many as you want to here on me man I think I think I another superpower that I have is to fit in and gel with a lot of different groups like I played sports growing up but I was also a theater kid growing up like I did a lot of musical theater I did drama I did scholastic bowl I wrote slam poetry my my childhood and like high school experience was very much like, all right, I can hang with the athletes. I can hang with the theater kids. I can hang with the choir people. I can, I found my way to fit in and have friends in each of those pockets. And I think out here, whether it's another super like athletic guy, and I got to bro out for a minute,

whether it's somebody totally different from me. And's like a you know a nerd that likes all their like nerdy things like i got a nerdy brain in in this body here and so i can do that as well um so i think that's another superpower kryptonite will be my competitive nature i'm i'm a very competitive person and at times i just have to be very conscious of this and control this in the game. Competitiveness can make me upset and like act out at times if like in moments of weakness of like, I'm mad that somebody cost us the challenge. I'm mad that somebody is not doing things the way that I want them to go. So I just have to keep that in check and remember like, hey, long game here, buddy. Relax. It's not worth like, you know, making a big deal about as long as I can contain that, I think I'll be OK.

You talk about being a master of body language. Let's put that to the test. I'm sure you have some opinions about the people that you've been about with the past few days. Let's start with the positive side first. Who are some people that you think day one best case scenario i'm on the beach with you these are my ride or dies man so this was a person that i first reaction was like not about and the more that i've just seen them i love them it's an older woman with blonde hair her name ss are her initials i believe um and she she's got like she was more like a louis vuitton bag and louis vuitton slides out here which i, OK, that's a bold choice off off the bat. She talks probably more than anybody else, like very talkative.

I don't know. I just love her. I get great vibes. Like, I just want to talk to her. I want to be friends with her. There's another girl as well. I'm trying to figure out like maybe like Hawaiian. I think she's reading a book about like how to speak Hawaiian and has like a like a Hawaiian shirt on one day, like darker skin, dark, curly hair. She's all smiles. And I like that. I think it might be a little bit dangerous.

But overall, if she's on my tribe, I think I'm going straight to her and trying to be like, hey, let's let's do this thing. Now, how about on the how about on the other side I don't want to judge any books by their cover however being said yeah but I'm going to do it there there is one guy he's like a shorter guy white dude with like honestly I can't tell if he's like 20 or 40. I don't know what his age is whatsoever is very odd to me. He doesn't smile at all. And like, he kind of just like feels very like calculated walking around like he looks like a thinker. And I'm very wary of him coming into this. So we'll see. Like I said, I'll give him a shot, but I'm nervous about that one.

What would you say is your biggest takeaway from Survivor 45 and 46 that you are bringing into Survivor 47? Ooh, don't play the game too fast. Easy. I think Survivor 46, I haven't seen how it ends, obviously, but we saw a lot

of people turn on their number one allies at 10 11 9 8 why why like the game now the new era has told us all about find a place to hide find a place to hide for as long as possible and right when people see the light at the end of the tunnel, you need to be the light and you're the freight train. That's how I want to play the game. Like, but you do it too early. And so we saw Tevin turn on Soda. He goes home. Hunter allows Tevin to go out of the game,

goes home with an idol in his pocket. Like Kenzie goes and targets Tiffany, which then leads to Tiffany being sent out of the game. And now Kenzie potentially is vulnerable in a lot of ways. So I want to keep my allies as long as possible. I want to stay insulated for as long as possible. I want to make sure that if I'm making that move, it's in a spot where I don't have to survive four more tribal councils on immunity wins and idols and sheer luck just to get to the end of the game. I want to do it when they realize, oh, like Sam just made a big ballsy move and now we

can't get him because it's too late and he's going to win the game. What is your most controversial survivor opinion? I mean, you come from sports media. You are not a stranger to hot take. Oh, man, I'm a hot take guy. I love a good hot take. OK, I'll give you two. Number one, brief. I think winners at war midseason at best. I really don't.

Because it didn't have you on it. The winner of Survivor 47. Yeah, exactly. 50 will talk. 50 will talk. 47 or 40. I don't know. Reason being for that one, I just felt like so many of the players didn't come to win.

They came to like kind of make it a capstone on their survivor career. And they got to a point like eight, seven, six in the game where they were just like, Hey, vote me out. It's been a great ride. I'm like,

no, you're playing to be a survivor legend. The greatest ever. If you win twice and like, especially if you're two for two at it. So that kind of bothered me here's my hottest one the best player always wins there has never been such thing as a robbed survivor player the best player always wins and is always deserving um i believe the game is a

game built on we hear it all the time, social contract. What is your season's social contract? And I think, you know, objectively, you could look at a season 43 and say, hey, Jesse on any other season of Survivor probably outplays everybody else from his cast. And he probably does better than Gabler on most seasons of Survivor. But Gabler played the best game of season 43, the same way Jam Jam played the best game of 44. And the reason why is because he found a way to get himself to the end and navigated the end game, navigated the jury that he was dealt to win the game. It's just hard to argue for me. So I think, yeah, everybody who wins deserves to win.

Well, last but certainly not least, if you could bring a celebrity or a fictional character out for a loved one's visit, who are you picking and why? You going in-house? You're going to try to pick a, I would say Ryan Tannehill's not limping his way out here? No, definitely not. None of the Titans would be able to help me out here. So, like, they're out. All right. Here's a weird one that I just randomly thought of.

Give me Harvey Specter from Suits. OK, I think like so I'm a super you might not be able to tell from this interview, Mike, but the last like three days been like an emotional experience for me. I'm a super emotional guy. I cry all the time. You're going to see it on television, guaranteed, probably within the first two episodes. And I think I just like feel a lot of emotions a lot. I'm very vulnerable with my emotions. I hope to use that to my advantage to connect with people. And I think Harvey Specter would be the guy to come in and tell me, hey, knock it off.

It's game time. We got to slit some throats. We got to win this game. And I just think it would be like the right level of push that I need to make sure, like, hey, we're not taking allies to the end if we're that I need to make sure like, Hey, we're not taking allies to the end. If we're going to lose to them,

we're not, we're not joking around and settling for second, third or fourth place. We're coming here to be the sole survivor. This was such an awesome conversation, man. To your point. I know that it's probably has been just a maelstrom of stuff going on in

the past little while in the lead up to it, but I had such a great time getting to chat with you to get, you know, your finger on the pulse. We're talking in the locker room basically before you're out to go there and play the big 26 day game. I mean, listen, if you survived all the turmoil of the QB changes in Tennessee, the past season, you can survive survivor. Hopefully, man. Yeah. I don't know. We're going to, they, yeah,

that's been a whirlwind and coaching changes too like they're uh nobody's surviving in the Tennessee Titans locker room right now yeah you will be the constant of the Titans to emerge supreme here you'll be number one in your division in season 47 this was such a great time man uh thank you so much for taking the time to chat I wish you nothing but the best not only in the lead up to what's to come, but obviously what's to come afterwards, man. It's going to be such a great time. I'm so excited for you. Thank you, man. Cheers. So it's a new year. You know what that means? Setting big goals. Maybe you promised yourself you're going to hit the gym every day, or maybe you said you're going to learn to make fire with a flint for once or the classic save more money.

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registered investment advisor. View important disclosures at acorns.com slash robpod. All right, Mike, there you have it there, Sam Phelan. I thought I was very impressed with Sam. Now, coming into this, this was not what I was expecting. You know, I feel like that after our conversation yesterday, talking about from the John Lovett episode, I was expecting like a little bit more of like a meathead, broey, frat guy, as opposed to the person I just heard from. And that is sort of the intention that Sam is expressing, right? That he is a multifaceted person.

That, yes, he kind of does have this bro-y vibe to him. And I don't know if it's necessarily just because of like, he grew up playing athletics and he has an interest in them clearly. And so maybe he just has that vibe to him. I didn't ask for specific descriptions as to like, who are some of the bigger guys in the season, but I would imagine that Sam is probably one of them. But yeah, he describes that he is someone that

basically knows a little bit about everything. You know, he's a nerd inside of a jock body. And so as a result, that's going to allow him, once he starts talking to, you know, connect with people outside of those first impressions. And I completely agree uh sam is very high on my winner pick list as well we'll get into maybe a couple of red flags as to what is giving me flags exactly uh or challenge flags maybe uh from quite literally a red flag perspective i can only use one of those uh but i i do get it right you'll get more i mean i do think there's a lot of pros

in Sam's Corner after... Due to, I think, his experience talking with pros. I really do think, Rob, not to always make it about how much your job prepares you for Survivor, but the way he described it as well, I do feel like his beat reporting is going to come across so well

in talking with people. Sure. And the professional ego stroking that he referenced that's not all the stroking that happens in locker rooms okay mike i just i don't even know what you're implying okay all right so uh you mentioned devin pinto deep paul and that was interesting another uh guy who had some success uh in the game interesting michelle fitzgerald who uh also just has like a very fun attitude. I feel like that that's kind of her greatest strength in the game that people just want to be around her. And so if Sam can bring some of that, I think that that's really

a good thing for him. Interesting about John Lovett. You know, I think that key flag something that I actually brought up with you yesterday talking about John Lovett, who, again, we're used to John Lovett being a comedian, being the person who's funny. And I noted that he seems very serious about this. And this was something that Sam noted also that talking about John, he seems like he's very serious about this. And ageless, apparently. We don't know if John Lovett is 20 or 40, which I think is probably, from John's perspective, one of the best compliments he's received.

Right. If he was 20, maybe not such a great compliment. Maybe that could be a final tribal council revelation of like, I'm actually 20 years old, or it could be the reverse. I don't know if the jury would rather vote for a 20 year old or a 40 year old, but yeah, I mean, this happens sometimes in the preseason that obviously you are given instructions that to like largely stay within your own bubble and don't really interact with anybody. And some people follow those almost too much to a T where it comes across

as like, well, they're not giving me any time of day. Well, you know, what's also interesting about John is that he was in such a bubble in terms of his survivor experience where he's not he has watched all of survivor but he made the very careful uh attention to not i'm not going online i'm not reading and all these other players are like so studied up on oh first impressions first impressions, Ponderosa, pregame. This is all important. I want to make relationships where if he's not outwardly trying to foster these pregame relationships, maybe he has not really heard anecdotally that that's a big deal.

I wonder if he might be off to a slow start in the game. I mean, remember, even when I talked with him, it was certainly some stuff he thought of, and he did eventually give me identities. But it seemed like something that, to your point, maybe was not top of mind for him, as opposed to Rachel later on in the interview knew like, OK, I know you do these things. Not only did I experience this last year, but you do it every single time. So here's the laundry list of nicknames that I have. OK, but this is back to Sam. Interestingly, once I have Harvey Specter come in, I was going to say Rob as someone who nicknames yeah that i have okay but this is back to sam back to sam interestingly uh once have harvey specter come in i was gonna say rob as someone who is uh i would say the biggest expert

on suits that is in my recent circle of people is that a good loved one to bring out uh lewis lit would be the all-time suits loved one to have come out but yeah harvey would be good to give you a little pep talk yeah i mean listen sam is one that is accustomed to pep talks at least experience them i live life up here right now your game it's down here exactly so i think sam has a really good head on his shoulders i mean the way that he expressed the way he wanted to play you know when i asked him what's his big takeaway from the past two seasons and he basically said like something similar to an effect of what john and a bunch of other people have been saying which is like people are making big moves just for the sake of big moves but what i think he expressed really interestingly was this idea of loyalty that he was like i want to stick with a

group and present myself as sticking with that group until it gets to a certain point and then i make my move i mean that is sort of the blueprint that we saw with a lot of these early new era winners, right? That was the case with Erica, with Marianne, even with Gabler as well, to a certain extent. And that is sort of the optimal way to play in a normal new era season. And I think that's also going to help with Sam, because I do think, again, if Sam is being perceived in a way from at least some of the contestants in the way that John is expressing that is something that especially once

the merge hits could present him as a target as well whether it be a threatened challenges well-spoken very good socially what have you but if he's able to endear himself to people and be like listen I might be a big threat but like that makes me a meat shield for you. I'm not going to deviate from the plan. I'll vote with you. Don't you want a number to keep around? I think that is something that could have him outstaying his his average draft position when you're trying to figure out who does well in this season.

OK, we'll talk about everybody more. I could see him also getting along with Andy as well. Yeah, I think so, too. I mean mean although if the music city miracle comes i was gonna say andy's a bills fan and of course sam is a big uh titans guy and hopefully jet's titans week two and we'll see can sam be able to uh mix and match allies much like the quarterback situation in Tennessee. We shall see what you're not a fan of the Mayo loving will Levis. Yeah. I listen, you know,

I'm not going to yuck anybody's yub though. Emphasis on yuck in terms of what you choose to put into your coffee. I'm sure Bryce would have some words about what will Levis puts in his coffee. It's not international delight. All right. So there you go. There's Sam Phelan looking forward to

seeing what he's able to do. We've got one last person from the Gada tribe to talk about. We are going to get to Sierra. We love to have a nurse on Survivor. That is Survivor 47's entry. And so we'll talk about Sierra

and round out the God of Tribe when we come back right after this. All right, Mike, we've got another survivor Sierra. Unlike Sam, we've had some Sierras, different spellings. And we've had some rights as well. Same spelling. All right, so we put it all together. Maybe a new fan favorite?

A game changer, perhaps? Perhaps. But first, she's got to enter this game. So we are talking about Sierra Wright. Hello, registered nurse. That's what she does. She is 26 years old from Phoenixville, Pennsylvania. And yes, even though she is a nurse, Rob,

much like a young Debbie Wanner, she has found herself across multiple careers and multiple competitions as well besides Survivor. Okay. All right. So let's check in with your conversation with Sierra and come back and talk about it with you. All right. To start things off, let's make it nice and easy. Give me your name, age, and occupation. Yeah. So my name is Sierra Wright and I'm 26 years old and I am a

registered nurse. Oh, fantastic. How was this like something you found your way into? Have you always wanted to be a nurse? So nursing, I mean, it's definitely something that came natural to me. I was always the one who my family would call on if somebody got sick, like I would be the one going to take care of them. But I just, you know, I actually started off as a news reporter. That was my first career. I moved to upstate New York the day after I graduated college. And then, you know, I played that out for a little bit. But I mean, you don't make any money in that industry.

And I don't think anybody tells you it's not as glamorous as it looks. I mean, I was lugging around, you know, a big ass camera. I'm like doing the wildest stuff. And so it's not it's not a glamorous as it looks. I mean, I was lugging around, you know, a big ass camera. I'm like doing the wildest stuff. And so it's not, it's not a glamorous thing. And, you know, for the pay, it was kind of, it was tough. It was hard to even afford my rent. So I'm like, okay, we got it. We got to make a switch. We got to change something up. Um, so then, you know, I come from a family of nurses, my mom's a nurse, my cousins are nurses. So then I went back to school and took the chance. I did an accelerated nursing program, 17 months, pretty brutal, 17 months. But we did it. And now, yeah, I love I love being a nurse. So. Well, let's talk about another career transition you're making

from broadcast journalist to nurse to survivor player. Give me your history with watching the show and what made you decide that this was something you wanted to participate in? Yes. So survivor, I mean, one, I think I was just like born for this game. There's like no other way to put it. I'm like my physical abilities, my social abilities. I'm like, we're going to we're going to thrive out here. But, you know, it's like it's's something that my family, it brought us together, like growing up. Um, we watched since I was like four years old. Um, you know, kind of fell out of it when I got to college, didn't have cable, but got back into it at COVID. Um, so this is where we're at now. And I just shot my shot and, uh, send in a video and then they got back to me like

three years later. So it was like a kind of like a waiting and I'm like, okay, I guess I guess I'm not cut out. Um, kept sending a video in. And then finally I heard back, I got a call literally the first week I started my nursing job. So I'm like, shit, I can't do this. And, um, but then my, you know, my job was great and flexible and they were like, go for it. Um, I work for a private practice. So, you know, I had to speak with the doctor and I'm like, listen, if I'm going to keep moving forward, this is like I could have had a baby at this point, how long this process has been. So I'm like, it's pretty intense. I'm not going to keep going if you tell me I'm not going to

have a job when I come home. And then it worked out. And then we're here in freaking Fiji. This is crazy. And the background, I can't get over. It's I'm telling you, it's like animated. I mean, get used to it. You're going to be waking up to this hopefully for the next 26 days, right? I know when we're watching the sunset, it was a pretty wild moment, like watching everybody lined up and we're all just sitting there watching, you know, the sun go down and I'm like, whoa, I have chills like this is wild. This is like what you dream of. And then now it's here and now it's a reality. And yeah, I'm excited to make my family proud. Well, pull from your knowledge of Survivor for me.

Give me one winner and one non-winner who you identify with the most. So I would say JT. I, you know, strangely enough, I just love that he truly played the game with his heart. You know, he was well liked by the tribe. You know, he was very underestimated because he was a little gullible. And, you know, I feel like I definitely can be gullible. It's kind of my middle name here. Oh, I didn't realize that it was like a formal legal name of yours.

What is it just like a facet of who you are? Does that make you nervous for the game where it's all about lying? No, not at all. I'm not nervous at all about that because I'm like, you know what? Let them doubt me. You know, let them underestimate me and think, oh, she's just a stupid, smiley blonde, like whatever. But I have like a very strong intuition. I typically doesn't lead me wrong. And, you know, I am a lot more intelligent than apparently I come across, which is OK, though. I'll let them underestimate me. And I'm good with that. Yeah. Going back to the non-winner. Non-winner. Let's see. You know what? I'm going to go with cheese. OK.

Steph LaGrosse, I would say I have to just go with. I love the Delco girl. Jeez. Okay. Steph LaGrosse, I would say I have to just go with. I love the Delco girl. You know, I'm from outside. Well, I'm from Delaware, but, you know, I worked in Philadelphia. I'm only 30 minutes outside of the city. So I'm like, I got to support her. And she's tough. She's resilient. You know, she was a huge inspiration to so many like girls around the world just showing like, you know, whatever you put your mind to, if you do it, keep on, you know, again, with perseverance and some, you know, toughness, you can do it. And she crushed it, especially season 10. Like she dominated. So that's that's what I hope to do. It really seems like you have done so much at only 26 years. You talk about obviously being a broadcast journalist, being a nurse.

I know you wrote in your bio here that you won Miss Delaware USA and competed in Miss USA. You made it to the final round of American Idol. So if you could boil it down to one life experience you feel has most prepared you for this game amongst all the ones you've had, what would that be? You know, I would say actually one that I don't have on there

is that, um, I I've been in the service industry for over 12 years now. Um, so, you know, being a server and dealing with such a wide population, like you really had to learn how to effectively communicate with like so many different groups. And I think that's key for being out here on survivor. Um, also there's so many changes and like things that happen in that industry that you have to adapt. You know, if you have a shitty customer or somebody who's not, you know, being the nicest person, you have to deal with it and, you know, throw on that smile. If you want to make money, you got to keep going. So otherwise you won't make it through the shift. So just really learning, you know, how do you adapt, how to communicate well with others from

all different spaces and groups and backgrounds. Yeah, I think that's that's definitely what what set me up to be out here. What do you would you say is your biggest superpower and your biggest piece of kryptonite? Does it speak to you, as you just mentioned, that adaptability and niceties that comes with being in service for so long? Biggest superpower. Let's see. Well, like what I think. Darn, that's a good question. Biggest superpower. Hold on.

I should have this in my back pocket. This is a good one. Darn, you stumped me here. That's kind of hard to do. Let's see. Freaking superpower. Come on, Sierra. I's kind of hard to do. Let's see. Freaking superpower. Come on, Sierra. I know there's some in there.

I don't know. I really do think it's just going to end up being like my strong intuition. I really, I don't know. I know that's not like a stereotypical superpower, but I just think I can literally read through people. Maybe that's it. I feel like I can look at somebody and like already I've been like writing down all these nonverbal cues.

And I'm like, I could probably tell you somebody's story based off of what I've learned. So I'm very like analytical and just pick up on a lot of things. Like when I'm at home, I'll say like, mom, did you see that? And she's like, how the hell did you see that? Out of everything that person brought to the table? That's what you notice. So I feel like I just can pick up on things that a lot of people can't. Kryptonite, man, I don't know. I don't know what let's think. I mean, you mentioned that gullibility before. You know what? Yes, definitely being a little gullible.

But, you know, but I'm a smart gullible. Like it's like I feel like I come across as gullible, like where I'm like, oh, like can look look a little airhead. I'll be honest. But I'm always sharp. Like I'm always like I know what you're talking about. What are you guys saying? I got my eyes on people just like I said, you know, I have a really good read. And I'm like, I know when something's going wrong or something's headed in a certain direction. read and i'm like i i know when something's going wrong or something's headed in a certain direction um but yeah yeah i don't know why this one's uh tricking me well i'll move on to something a bit easier because as you mentioned as you mentioned though you have been you know compiling your thoughts on these other people open up the book for me a little bit here who are some people that you're getting good vibe from that you're like, best case scenario,

we hit the beach on day one. This is a possible ride or die. All right. So there's this woman here. She has like long blonde hair. She seems like she's a little older, but she's like, she's like a MILF.

Like she's a hot mom. You can tell she looks like she's like a surfer, like yoga instructor. She just like, she just is like smiling, you know, just like just making all these, like, and she's just looks like a free spirit. Um, and I just think she looks like a

badass and I think we could definitely dominate together. Um, I see a kid, he's like a taller kid, um, looks a little strong, a little strong. Let me not say that. See a taller kid and he looks strong and just like athletic. And I'm like, you know what, let's crush it. Let's kill the challenges, um, together. If you know, we're working together. Um, who else? Um, a lot of, a lot of smiles out here. Like there's a few, only a few where you're like, Ooh, all right, I'll go in the next direction. Um, but let's name names then, or I guess you don't know their names, but like, tell me about who those people are.

Yes. Well, you know, it's so funny. So I've created like all of these little like I have on my notebook, like a list of like, OK, I'm like, there's a mini Austin out here, like from season 45. He looks literally like Austin, but a little shorter. I'm like, there's a mini Sabaya here. When I say I mean, like almost like a little replica. Who else? Yeah, I don't know. It's it's definitely been interesting. There's a really tall guy. He looks like he could literally

be in the NFL. And you can just tell like, he's a goofball. And I'm like, I think like, we would definitely get along too. And just like, kick it and just be funny and just like, shoot the shit together. Yeah, but it's funny. I hold my notebook. I'm like, this person has a tattoo down their leg. And then like what I've noticed about them, this person's painting out here, this person's reading, this person I noticed was awake at three in the morning

when I went to the bathroom. So it's like you pick up on these little cues where you're like, huh, okay, we know who the early risers are. We knew who's a little like more difficult to get up out of bed. So it's little things like that. I'm definitely picking up on. You mentioned, you know, another Austin, another Sabaya. What is your biggest takeaway from the past two seasons from Survivor 45 and 46 that you specifically plan to integrate into your game in

47? Yeah, well, I definitely want I noticed that the past two seasons, I'm like, I really feel like I can relate with them. You know, there's been like, you know, all different wide variety of casting. But like the past two seasons, I'm like, yeah, I could see me working with them and like a ton of them, which kind of like I didn't really have that for some of the past season. So I think I was like really cool to see. And this, you know, I can already tell this upcoming season. I'm like, yeah, you, you, you, I'm like, shoot, everybody's smiling. Everybody looks pleasant, but I'm like, I'll be onto you as soon as we'll see. But, um, yeah, I don't know. I think just really like D to me is like an inspiration since season 45. I fricking love her. I called it for my first,

like one of my first casting interviews. I'm like that girl D, like, come on, Caitlin, that's a girl to watch. Like, I really think she's going to take it because she's just great. Like, because she's athletic. She crushed it in the challenges.

She came ready. What do you know? I've been preparing the last year. I'm like, I've been like in this whole process for since August. So I'm like, been at the gym 5 this whole process for since August. So I'm like, been at the gym 5am every day, came strong, you know, ready for that. But then also just being like a likable person and being myself, I think that's the coolest thing about Survivor and this whole process is like, you don't need to be afraid to like curse. And you know, that's not something

I'm proud of, but a curse word might slip here and there. But just being able to be your real self and just like let go and be like, take it or leave it. And that's exactly what Dee did, too. So I think just socially and like being like having good tribe morale is what I noticed is like what's, you know, leading people in the right direction. What would you say is your most controversial survivor opinion, your hottest take about a player, a season, the show, etc.? Yeah, so I actually I just said this because I really want the live tribal back. I'm like, I like when you go home and like you can have that moment with your loved ones, give them a big hug, you know, and I feel like that is a lot of people are like, what? No, the emotions are so high and fresh when you're out here on the island, which I get to. But I'm like a little selfishly. I'm like, I would love to like hug my family when I get crowned 47 winner and just be like,

you know, have them there. So I feel like that's something that I typically say. And people are like, what? No. So, yeah, I would say that is my little hot take right now. Well, on that note, I want to talk about love in a different way. If you could bring a celebrity or a fictional character out for a loved one's visit, who would you pick and why? Here we go again. Get me stumped with this. Who's my who's my go to?

I'm just I'm here. I'm the softballs compared to the probes master general. You're about to get I thought I was ready. I'm like, I came prepared and I'm like, shit, maybe I didn't. Um, who's my, you know, who would be like, if I could, because I love Carrie Underwood because I, I'm, you know, I was a singer growing up. Um, and I still love to sing and she's like my inspiration as a singer and she's so fricking strong and fit and motivating. So I feel like having that sort of energy come out, like especially when you're feeling your lowest, I'd call on her and be like, come on, girl, pick me up. Give me some little arm workouts. Give me something to do.

And she's just, you know, has such a great heart and uplifting spirit. So, yeah, I would say she's definitely my my go to celebrity. Yeah. And then you're telling her like, oh, I haven't made any big moves. And she's like, Sierra, take the and she's like sierra take the wheel yeah jesus take the wheel i know and i swear i'm a better singer than that but um i know exactly yes that's exactly what she would say she'd be like get your shit together get out there and make some moves well i'm happy we went for a drive here you have been such a delight to talk to and again you have done so much with your life that I'm so excited to see what the next stage

will look like in the form of Survivor. It is going to be such a fun time. You have such a great energy and I cannot wait to see what you bring to that beach. All right. I'm so excited. Thank you so much. Of course, it was so nice getting to meet you.

Best of luck with all the other, you know, pieces of anticipation building up onto this. And I can't wait to see what happens once you're feet at the sand. Thanks so much. I'll talk to you soon. We'll be talking. All right, Mike, there you have it there.

Sierra, Mike, why don't you want to talk to you soon? That's bad. Sierra, you don't want to talk to Mike soon. Yeah, that's what I keep saying as well. I say like, listen, we're going to have a conversation way, way down the line. I love getting the chance to talk right now, but for all of our sakes,

let's put it in the Google calendar for the end of 2024. And Mike, i'll talk to you as far away as humanly possible and listen i won't take offense to it of all people talk to you again for a while i am the person that will say thank you sir may i have another if you say i don't want to talk to you again for another eight months yeah all right but sierra is an interesting one and i think that sierra has like a good profile for Survivor. I think that she has, of course, the nurse background, a long history of nurses being able to hold their own on Survivor.

But she also seems like she's got like this sporty side to her. Yeah, she keeps talking about her athleticism, her physical prowess. We didn't necessarily get into it, but she does bring it up in her bio as well. So it just seems like maybe competition is something that she's very much into. She actually writes in her bio. Competitive is the number one. Sierra writes. Yeah, exactly.

Competitive is the number one adjective that describes me. I make a competition out of almost anything, including who can roll the trash to the end of the driveway faster. Don't tell John Kierhofer. He just came up with an idea for the next challenge. Yes. Okay. You know, another Sierra tried to roll the trash. Yeah. Trash can roller versus a barrel roller. Yes. Okay. So Mike, she was on American Idol. So I look this up. I'm pretty sure. So what she writes in her bio is that she like just made it, I think, before, quote, the big stage. And I don't know if that necessarily means like she made the televised version. She went to Hollywood?

I think maybe she went to Hollywood. But listen, there are so many faces out there. But look, she is one that certainly knows how to make her way through these cattle calls and emerge as you know the the number one person to pick considering that also she was a successful um miss teen delaware and actually competed in miss teen usa a couple times okay all right so we love to see our pageant people a very competitive world come through on reality TV, usually a good practice for these shows. Chewing to win Miss Survivor 2024, Rob? We'll see.

We'll see if we should bring it back. She wants Carrie Underwood to be her loved one. It would be the first time that an Underwood shows up out of nowhere that people celebrate. Yes, exactly. She is able to turn that around, though I think maybe Chris Underwood shows up out of nowhere that people celebrate. Yes, exactly. She is able to turn that around, though. I think maybe Chris Underwood has improved the reputation a bit, but maybe Carrie and Chris are related. We never I never asked him if that was the case.

Interesting. Maybe a claim to fame. He'll show up coming in off the edge of extinction for the final. Yeah, that could that could be something. Listen, the theme is not on trial, but your relatives are Chris Under underwood and we're gonna vote for you to get a million dollars okay um she wants to be like a steph lagrosa i could see that makes sense um she had some good vibes from people there's a certain this is words, not mine, a MILF? Yes, there is a MILF there.

Senator of the Manor? Listen, we'll talk about Sue in a couple days from now. Who knows? Maybe I should take out the wishlist question, Rob, of like, if we don't see them on Survivor, what show do you want to see them on next for Sue Smeag? Okay. All right.

She talked about, who's the taller kid she had good vibes with i'm not entirely sure i you know i did not necessarily have them stand up in like police officer style have them stand up against a height determiner i would imagine that sam seems like a tall person i would imagine tk because we'll talk about tk has comes from a background where he was on his way to playing football but then she also talked about an NFL goof. Yeah, the NFL goof may have been TK as well. So it might be Sam. We know it's not John Lovett.

That's for sure. We know it's not John Lovett. We know it's not Andy because Andy, I believe, was her mini Austin. Mm hmm. I think that. Who's mini Sabaya? Asia. Asia's mini Sabaya?

I'm pretty sure Asia's the only. That's news to me. I'm pretty sure Asia's the only black woman who's to me. I'm pretty sure Asia's the only black woman who's on this season. Yeah, okay. I don't know. I don't know about that one. All right.

But she's been in the gym, 5 a.m. These Survivor contestants, they could do so much prep. It's amazing. It's amazing how much they do. I mean, Rob, if you were ever able to get the call out to 50, are you going to hit the gym at 5 a.m.

or are you just saying like, you know what? I can roll trash cans to the gym at 5 a.m. or are you just saying like, oh, you know what? I can roll trash cans to the curb. 5 a.m. is early. Yeah. Listen, there's a 5 a.m. and a 5 p.m. and I know which one you'd be leaning towards. How am I waking up at 5 a.m. when Big Brother is on until 11 o'clock at night? I mean, that's what these people are entertaining themselves on the feeds by exercising.

You should exercise when they exercise. You know, you sleep when they sleep. That's the schedule you should go by sure sure okay anything else on sierra mike yeah i'm really not sure how i feel about sierra's chances like i think on paper i mean listen i have been crowing this out since the new era began and we started doing these things i think service experience is one of the best things to bring into the game just the idea on paper of like having to encounter people from all different walks of life from all different backgrounds from all different dispositions and be able to either assuage them or you know get on their side be a little empathetic understand where they're coming from it applies applies so much to the minute-by-minute elements of Survivor.

And I'm glad that Sierra expressed that as well, even outside of nursing. Like, apparently she has 12 years of serving experience. Now, she may completely surprise me, so I'm happy wrong here. I don't see necessarily Sierra as somebody that will, much like the person to, one of the people to be part of her namesake like

come in and make the big move you know i don't really see sierra saying okay i need to take the game by the horns at this point sierra take the wheel if you will i have to take out this person or blindside this person with an idol it does seem like and maybe just i got i got hung up on the smart gullible way of describing her i could more so see sierra as someone that will you know go along to get along with an alliance see now i see sierra a little bit more as uh a different sierra namesake that we haven't brought up uh but the one who like hey come on let's make some big moves people let's go uh like i wonder like uh could she be a, could she be coming out a little too hot?

Oh, that's interesting. I mean, she does say that Dee was an inspiration to her. And sometimes, you know, you take the lessons from Dee's endgame of like she was making these big moves, bringing in these tight number one allies and then cutting them, et cetera, et cetera. When you should more so take the moves from D's first part of the game, which has involved her not going to tribal council that often,

but also involved her really laying root with some of those bonds. And yeah, to your point, if she does go a little to Sierra Easton early on, we saw what happened in Game Changers as a very key example. Like again, people are looking for any reason to get rid of somebody early. If Sierra does immediately start, you know, start putting in the, you know, putting in the needle, trying to let some blood out of this tribe, it could be her who ends up flatlining at the end of the day. Is that a medical procedure, Mike? I think it's a very obscenely clear that I have no idea what I'm talking about here.

Seems a little middle ages, but OK. Bring in the leeches. That's what I say. All right. A good bloodletting is what we need here. All right. So, Mike, I am having a hard time really trying to see how this tribe comes together. Yeah. So I think I mean, I think we can talk about some groupings that we can see and then maybe try to work our way backwards i mean i could see you know i we did this a little bit with lavo of like who do i feel are my quote-unquote untouchables who do i think stand the best chance of making the merge i would put andy on there yeah i would probably say that like if i had a thought of a controlling majority on this tribe, I think Anika and Rachel will immediately seek each other out because they already have in the preseason.

And then they bring in someone like Andy as a third. And then it just becomes a matter of who do those three want to work with? Because I would imagine unless things completely change once Gotha hits the beach that john is gonna go for sam initially and then sam subsequently is gonna go for john i get it that uh we heard sam talk about john did john say something about sam i mean john was talking about how again he and again this is he even admitted was perhaps broad brushing with these people that he says there's a couple of guys who have a kind of like quiet confidence that I find threatening. And yes, that is too vague of a term. I agree.

John, it seems, you know, he's such a smart guy. He's a strategist. Does does he sort of look at maybe some of these guys as being like, hey, what's best for me to get to where i need to go maybe i need to keep the tribe strong like do i want to go to three tribal councils before the merge then the question is like i'm sure sam would be reciprocating that feeling but is he gonna have the idea in his head of like oh now i know this guy is a thinker now i know this guy has already plotted ways to go to the end with me and shirk me off at uh the thinking about the strokes rob uh about the at the final five final four i need to make a move right here right now so i've said it before that i

think there is a chance that these two could work together, but I could also see a big possibility where like John is someone that ends up in the line of fire early on. If this tribe goes to tribal council within like the first two episodes. Yeah. I just do wonder, like, could we potentially see it go and flip the other way where it could potentially be,

uh, like a Rachel, uh, who ends up being a first boot. Yeah, the thing about Anika and Rachel is that and we talked about this yesterday as well. It seems like the two of them are very like minded. They're both, you know, women who come from white collar backgrounds and both of whom say that like they are used to being in control and making decisions from a leadership perspective. So there could be a situation where they fall in with each other immediately

and then realize like, okay, who wants to lead the dance here? And there could be some possible infighting there that then leads to them targeting each other. I agree. There's a lot up in the air here. I do feel like Andy is probably the safest. I think Sam is the safest as well, especially if we're writing off maybe this pet theory that John would want to go after him. I mean, it's it's certainly possible. I just don't know. Like if if John didn't say it, I just don't want to put that on him if he is did not, you know,

mention him explicitly. I think Sierra is OK, unless to your earlier point, if she immediately gets struck down with a case of big move-itis and has to get rushed off to the ER, in a manner of speaking, and then who knows, maybe Keyshawn could take care of her. I think that she is in an okay spot. So yeah, it's tougher than it was for Lavo for me

to narrow down who might be an early first boot from this group. This is a strong cast. We have not really had our wackadoodles yet. Maybe they're on our other tribe. Though we do apparently hear that wackadoodles win sometimes. That's said, but it has not really been the case so much. Okay.

All right, Mike. Tomorrow, we're going to start one last tribe. Tell us, what's this third tribe and who are we talking about? All right. So we are ending on a blue note, but we will not be sad because we're what's this third tribe and who are we talking about all right so we are ending on a blue note but we will not be sad because we're talking about our third tribe the blue tribe tuku and we will be starting with caroline and gabe and uh gabe is someone else who comes from this media background he actually before going to survivor just left a job where he

hosted his own talk show talking about the Baltimore Ravens. So lots of AFC bad blood going on in this season, Rob. Wow. So a Ravens talk show host? Yeah. We'll get into it more tomorrow. Okay. All right. Well, wild stuff.

Okay. All right. So this is perfect for, hey, this, uh, check out Wednesday night on CBS. Uh, they, you know, these, uh, football promos are right themselves. Yeah, exactly. So maybe that was also part of it. They're like, listen, NFL Titans. Uh, that's a, that's a AFC showdown back in the day. Yeah. So I think that, uh,

and there might be an old school AFC reference going on in Gabe's interview. We'll tease more of that for tomorrow. Okay. All right, Mike, I think that there might be an old school AFC reference going on in Gabe's interview. We'll tease more of that for tomorrow. Okay. All right, Mike, make sure I know you're subscribed, but look,

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podcast series, but I have moved on to my written versions of the Lavo interviews. So if for whatever reason you would like written versions of my interviews with, of course, the lovely Asia as well as Genevieve, check all that out at parade.com. All right.

Thank you so much for joining us. We've got only six players left to talk about before we are done with our Survivor 47 preview. Can't wait to meet the final six. Take care, everybody. Have a good one. Bye.