RHAP: We Know Survivor - Survivor 47: Tevin Davis Recaps Ep 3

Episode Date: October 3, 2024

Today we welcome Survivor 46’s Tevin Davis to join Rob for the post-game show for episode 3 of Survivor 47!

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BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Hey, everybody. What's going on? Rob Sestranino back tonight after episode number three of Survivor 47. And this was a tough night. My only consolation here is we've got such a great guest here with us to talk about everything that's going on. From Survivor 46, the great Tevin Davis is here. Tevin, how are you?

I'm blessed, Rob. How you doing? Thank you for for having me here i didn't know what i don't i don't own much black i have very bright colored things but i didn't know if you wanted me to wear black and i don't know if we'd be in mourning i know today is a troubling day but um it's gonna be okay sure sure and yeah uh definitely a sad night here for us at RHAP to see our friend and colleague Asia go out of the game. But I'm, you know, so damn proud of what she did and the game that she played. And look, that this new, especially in the new era, this game is, you summarized this game one time, Tevin, and you forgot to add that this game is a fickle bitch.

You could use that. When you play again, you can add that to the synopsis. I will make sure to add that. I will definitely add that because that is a true statement. But, you know, I said it when I played too, is like to get there is the win. So somebody unfortunately has to go first, second, third, fourth, whatever in that order.

But to get there and to be selected and to be ingratiated into the game at all is the win. So I'm also very proud of the game she's played. And I hope that she's proud. I hope so too. And you know what? And you can play a scared game, and you can get to the end,

and you can get zero votes, too. So you got to play to win, and you got to take risks, and I was very proud of the stand that Asia took tonight. And I think it could have worked if some more people would have had some courage tonight. But we will talk about that. First off, Tevin, before we get to all that, how are you doing?

How you been? I'm blessed. I'm good. I always say if I'm above the dirt, I'm good. So I'm living. I'm good. I've been working, doing my little acting thing. I left.

It kind of overlapped with the finale of season 46. And all summer I was working at the Illinois Shakespeare Festival and that place had never really sold out any tickets, but I had so many people that watched Survivor and that were fans of mine or just loved the show come out to see the show and see me perform. And we sold that place out pretty consistently, um, with, with that. So I did that. Now I'm doing Kamala Harris impressions and, um, everything is great. Yes. What would Vice President Harris have said about tonight's episode?

She would have said, let me be very clear. OK, it is a hard fight to get to the end. But you have to understand that you cannot just fall out of a coconut tree. OK, you have to fight because when we fight, let me be very clear about this. OK, about this okay we win yes okay sometimes you fight and you don't win also uh and uh you know if if we could go back maybe i would tonight that's correct but unfortunately we can't so we have to turn the page yes okay all right and we'll and cheer for uh, when the coconuts fall and get opened, of course. Okay. But anyway, uh, thrilled that you're here. Send your questions in. We'll take them later on the show. I'll have an exit interview, uh, with, I can't believe it. A very surreal exit interview with Asia coming up on Thursday. And then Steven Fishback will be joining

me for the survivor. No, it all's back on Thursday afternoon. Stephen, after a week off, will be back with me at 3 p.m. But let's start with the Lavu tribe and what Asia was presented with tonight, because such an interesting circumstance, okay? Small tribe, six people, Rome has the advantage, has an idol too. Tough spot. There's seemingly three pairs and in the swing position ends up being Kishan and Tini who feel like, okay, well, you know, Rome has all the power. I think we have to go with him. Do you like power, I think we have to go with him. Do you like where they decide to go instead of trying to go with maybe a bolder move? I don't know. I think it's very, very smart because as Tini summarized it tonight, you know, Tini was like, listen, I don't have the power to fight against what Rome has. So rather than trying to fight against forces that I don't have the power to

fight against, I might as well get and swim with it. And I think that that is very, very smart. But I did see that at the end that Tini actually didn't end up voting for Asia. So she did end up voting for Saul, which was kind of put a chasm between the voting of Kashan and Tini. So that was a bit shocking to me. But I think that it is the right move when you know for a fact that Rome has that kind of power. You kind of have to swim with the current or you're going to get sucked down. Tevin, the thing that I'm just left with is thinking about, like, was there a way to disarm the Rome bomb in that if you have four people and you have two pairs, isn't there a way to? And I feel like with all due respect to Rome, who has been a very colorful character so far, it seems like, okay, Rome has an idol potentially, and maybe, I'm not sure if Asia knew exactly how many tribal councils you could play the idol on, but to think that he would play

an idol on Genevieve, I just did not see that as a realistic option ever for Rome, where could you make Rome scared enough to think, okay, I better play my idol on myself and either just flat out put the votes on Genevieve, or if you want to be even more conservative, can't you put two votes on Rome and two votes on Genevieve and on the re-vote, just vote out Rome. If he doesn't play the idol and Genevieve, if he does, I think there is a world where that can happen. I just think everyone is, is actually,

well, actually no, I have to, I have to correct. I have to fact check myself. Okay. So, so,

okay. So if you do that, if you do two, two, two, and then he plays and then he plays the idol, uh, then he gets,

he gets a re-vote. So I'd have to, uh, do the quick math on what happens there in that in that two two two split so three people then who got votes on them or wouldn't get to vote okay right this is when people are listening to the podcast and are screaming at me because they know what would happen so okay they put three complicated though they put two votes on genevieve two votes on rome two votes on asia say okay rome played his idol so his two votes don't count he gets to revote so then it's Teenie, Kishan, Rome, Saul get to re-vote. And then Teenie, Kishan, and Saul vote out.

Vote out. Hmm. Will Genevieve even? I think this would work. I think this would work. I think it would be okay. I think this would work. Okay. I think it would be, it would be, I think that it would be okay to make that happen. I think that, I think that it could have happened.

I just, I don't know if it's, you know, maybe it's a, it's a direct correlation to season 46 where, where people are like, you know what? I don't need to make a big heaven.

We saw so many of your friends tonight. We saw that. We saw them. Yeah. Five of your friends popped up. Yes. You did not see me. I did not have an idol. I did not friends popped up. Yes. You did not see me. I did not have an idol.

I did not go home with it. So you did not see me, but we did see a lot of my friends. You know, unfortunately, the recap of their unfortunate demises. But I think that what it is, it's a direct correlation between 46 and 47 and what people are choosing to do in this new era based on the information that they have and the information that they have in 46 is one if you have an idol you could go home with it because they saw it what happened in our season and the other thing is that people were trying to make big moves all the time and that cost them their game so i think now people want to kind of sit back and drift not necessarily drift through but they don't want to make the big gold moves right now they want to wait till later which is probably the smarter option q's in everybody's head he told them all

they made big mistakes like well i can't make any mistakes i gotta play tight gotta play very conservative don't want to make a big mistake yeah i'm telling you what's funny though to happen about that them talking about your season is that they left after Tiffany got voted out. They didn't even see Venus and Q get voted out with idols. That's correct. So it's actually much worse than they even anticipated. If they only knew. If they only knew what was going to happen.

Yeah. If they only knew. Yeah. So I do feel like that, you know, Asia's put in this interesting spot where Teenie and Kashawn say to her, hey, we want to work with you, but we need you to turn on your ally. And it's interesting because in Survivor 46, so much of the storyline that we saw was that people had no problems turning on their close allies, that Asia felt like, no, I want to stick with Saul. Yeah. And I think that that, I mean, as we're talking about things that correlate and that being a direct correlation call back to 46 of them being like, I'm not going to do that this time because I don't think that worked out

well for a few people. So I think that that was also a direct response. But at this point, I just don't know. I think Asia could feel the vibes and be like, I don't know, because she does want to work with Rome. She's very blatantly said that, you know? And I think that when Kashan and Teenie were trying to make her flip to turn on Saul, I think that rubbed her the wrong way. And she was like, well, why are you all trying to convince me to turn on this person when the person I'm trying to tell you about is Genevieve? So I think Asia was very much trying to be in control of who she wanted to work with in that moment. And she just didn't want to move on that, which might have been, you know, a very key moment in her demise there tonight.

like there's two schools of thought in the new era. And I'm personally conflicted thinking about this, of that, do you just want to get through the pre-merge, just, you know, by hook or by crook, just get through it, vote anybody out? Or is it important to have these numbers? Because we saw in season 45 that we saw the Reba tribe come through. And even though there was a tribe swap, that they came through and they were a cohesive group.

And that was like the clearest plan to get to the end, sticking with your numbers. And of course, that was not the case in Survivor 46. So if you're Teenie and Kashawn, are you just looking to get through the pre-merge with whatever group you can? Yeah, I mean, I think that that is, I don't know. I honestly don't know. I feel like it's a mix of both. I think that a lot of these people that play, especially now, are like, they're super fans. And so I think that there is a conflation of like two different, those two thoughts

at the same time of like, you know what, I just need to get through. But at the same time, I know that i need to have the numbers of people are both trying to slide through and try to align themselves in the proper way to have the the right numbers to go and i think that that is when you can get in trouble in this game because you're playing both sides of the coin and once people find out that you're playing those both sides and you're both trying to hide and be prominent i I mean, I think that it can catch up with you. So I don't know. That's that's interesting and difficult and I think loaded question in this new era. It's tough. OK, I would love to hear your take on Rome. And, you know, he's been such a big, colorful character

so far in this season. And, you know, frankly, i'm rather mad at him for one that i feel like i can't enjoy him as much as i would be liking to enjoy him after uh what he pulled tonight but um the guy was what a find by survivor casting what what a find let me tell you my god today i i feel like he is just out there like a Tarzan in it, having a good time. He's good. I mean, he's catching fish. He's doing the things. He's good at these things.

But at the same time, he's so erratic. And I knew from the first, when I saw him jump his body, face first, dirty hair, dirty neck, dirty body into that well. You knew. I was like, no. You know? dirty neck, dirty body into that well. I was like, you know, so he's so erratic and, and, um, you know, but, but in some way the survivor gods are with him regardless. So he's doing all this crazy stuff and you would assume, wow, you're going to go first. You're going to go second. No. Oh, you have a, a advantage. You have a, and you have an idol. And how are things working for you? How are things working out for you?

And it is crazy to just think about how someone like that can go through the game and not have the consequences, even though everyone sees that they are consequential, but the consequences don't follow them. Yeah, you make a good point where that he's doing things that you feel like, okay, well, big mistake, big mistake. He's doing things that you feel like, okay, well, big mistake, big mistake. But you know, I do feel like that maybe,

is there a tightness from other players after watching, coming out of Survivor 46, where, okay, Rome is saying, okay, I want to go, I'm going to go and be on the journey. I mean, I feel like that everybody, every other person on that tribe is it's in their best interest that rome does not go on the journey like how do you step in and stop him of like no no executive decision rome is not going on the journey i mean i think that they all just needed to come together and and find a a sneaky way if you wanted to if they wanted to be firm about it i mean i guess they could have because they have the numbers that they all just needed to come together and find a sneaky way if you wanted to,

or if they wanted to be firm about it. I mean, I guess they could have because they have the numbers if they're all working together, but we know that they aren't. But I think that someone should have spoke up and found a way to get out of that situation, whether it be like, no, let's try something else or, I don't know, make something up. I don't even know what the thing would have been, but I would not have let Rome go on that thing, especially if we know he already has one thing, you know, the journey is going to at least have some type of advantage, whether or not he gets it or not is a different,

you know, question, but, um, I would not have let him go in that circumstance. Yeah. It was so interesting that they did the journey here in the third episode. Now you got to go on a journey, uh, and you went back in the first episode when it's a little bit more, you're sort of like feeling everybody out and you don't really know who's who. And maybe it's like, oh, I don't want to step on toes. Remind us, how did you end up being the person to go on the journey? It was happenstance. So we actually used, Nami used our shot in the dark die because it had six sides on it. And we all chose a symbol. I happened to choose whatever symbol that this was. And I think Soda maybe or Hunter, one of them rolled it and then it came up on my symbols and I was like, I have to go. And then I got on the boat and I left.

So we, you know, democratically chose to roll the dice. Do you think that had it happened day six or day seven that the boat showed up, that it might have gone differently than some kind of like random draw? I think so, because I think we did it that way just to make sure that because we didn't know who each other were and no one wanted to volunteer and no one wanted to be the decision maker. So it was fine. But later on in the game, I think you you have a little bit more information and you might want someone to leave so you can figure out how to kick them out of the game. So if I was wrong, I also wouldn't have wanted to go just because at that point in the game,

people are discussing like, who's up out here at this point? So I don't want to leave and leave you all to talk about me while I'm gone somewhere where you know that I'm possibly going to get something that's going to put more of a target on me. Yeah. And it wasn't even like a situation where,

you know, like when banu went and that they oh well we'll take rome to go over there you know it was the worst case scenario for everybody involved that he got to go and then for him to go of course he ends up uh getting the advantage on the first try but i do feel like that the other two people who went in annika and kyle i thought that they both played scared in terms of this game that they did now that this game was more similar to i believe it was in survivor 44 uh i think uh when it was i know it was uh matt uh who went and i don't remember who the other people were that went that had this similar thing of, okay, you have three shots. I think Lauren also might have been there.

And don't ask me the person from Tika that went. But was there a Sarah there? Was there a Sarah? Yes. Thank you, chat. Thank you. Okay. But basically, once you lost your vote,

Tevin, would you have put your hand back in the bag and potentially lost your vote again? Oh, God. Oh, God. I mean, at that point, it's 50-50. And I feel like if you're going to lose your vote, it is smart to just go ahead and call going to go home. If I make it through this one, oh, God, I have to do this again. So at least you're safe knowing I have my vote back. But at the same time, if I'm going on a journey, I'm playing Survivor, and I'm out here to win this money, I think I might just have to take the risk. It's a 50-50. You might get it. You might not.

But if you can have your alliance members strong enough and you can rely on them and say, listen, hey, I tried. I even tried to get my vote back. It just didn't work out. I don't have my vote for two tribals. Let's figure something out. That's why the numbers are important. And that's why your alliance members are important. So you can rely on them in times like that. So I think I might would have risked it. I didn't go all the way out to Fiji to play scared. Right. I think that the move is, you know, put your hand back in the bag because you basically get uh two shots at it you know and i'd have to uh i don't know if christian hubicki is watching uh along tonight to tell us like what the odds are but i mean you end up being over 50 50 between you know a one in

three and then you also have a 50 50 chance of getting to the advantage so i mean you know i think that that's probably a better advantage play but i i think that both uh kyle was very scared uh and also so was annika but i mean just take a look at what having these advantages did for rome's game that's it that's it but it also you have to look at what is happening back home. So, like, they're going in with a full, like, cognitive set of what's going on back at camp. And it's funny that the three people that ended up going on the journey are three people that were, like, in arguments and spats and tips back at camp. Annika and Sam going at it, but Annika gets to go on the journey. You got Kyle on the bottom, and Sue wants no parts of Kyle because of that vote that he slung on her.

And then you got, you know, obviously Rome going. So it's just interesting that, you know, obviously I think that they would play it safe because they already know they're in precarious predicaments based on the vibe of what's going on back at their, you know, individual tribes. Yeah. OK, Christian did write in the Twitch chat, have I been summoned? Yes. Christian, what is the odds in the Twitch chat. Have I been summoned? Yes. Christian, what is the odds of getting the advantage? If you play twice, please let it, let us know.

Cause I think it's decent. He was on it. I think it's decent, but, uh, fricking Rome doesn't even need two tries. One try sticks his hand in the bag. He's got one try.

I think the survivor guys are on his side and I just, I don't understand how he's doing it but it's the same way with q i i feel similarly cute like q kept throwing his head on the chopping block you know uh during 46 and for some reason he just kept on going and going and going and going and going and it's like the survivor gods coat these erratic players and it's so interesting yeah i, do you think that there is something to that? There's a method to the madness of that when, you know, people who are like playing predictable, you sort of like know what they're going to do, but then you have these elements that are a little bit more erratic and then everybody I think gets a little tight.

Yeah, I think so. I think people, I think that, that that in this new era the thought process is like if someone acts like that then that is someone that'll go before me but the danger is when you do that that person actually stays longer than you because no one is targeting them at all so you keep using them as a shield or whatever in front of you but then they end up running the game later and you have you can't catch up to them so i think that it is a strategy and i don't think that the new era players have caught on to how to manage it yet because it's still new so in this group that we saw go to tribal council now okay uh if asia is out of the equation now i mean where what do you think this tribe looks like moving forward uh with rome Genevieve, who we know nothing about.

And then teeny Gashawn. And then there's Saul who is the powerhouse, but is on the bottom. Yeah. Oh my God. So him clocking, he clocked all the things throughout the episode. I was like, wow,

Saul is like really good at reading these people. But I, I don't know because the votes were so, so sporadic, like the votes were everywhere. And I was like, oh, my God, this is not what you want to happen. You want to vote with your people and have a cohesive thing. So going forward, we know we voted together here.

So I hope that we can vote together there. But when the votes do that, it's kind of crazy. So I think that that tribe is going to kind of fracture a little bit. And they're going to have to find new structures. So I don't think that the structures that are currently there are going to be the ones that go forward, and I think people are going to reevaluate where they stand in who. Well, if this group goes to another tribal council, Rome is actually—

again, the thing about Rome is that he could play this perfectly, or he could completely blow it. Both things are in the realm of possibility but a steal a vote in this spot is precisely what he needs because if he didn't have the steal a vote if he even just had like another idol that wouldn't help him as much as the steal a vote because now that there's only five people in the tribe and so okay so if he's with genevieve and teeny's with kashan then okay oh saul is the swing vote great but now you steal saul's vote and you know you make saul vote against himself and then even if teeny and kashan want to

keep him then saul's going to be the next person to go home yeah that, that's it. Oh my God. Oh my goodness gracious. That steal vote is crazy. So yeah, and some crazy, you know, swipe of the wand, Rome might be running this game and running this tribe for even longer with that extra advantage

that he has. So I don't know how it's going to shake down and shake up, but I think that it's going to be, I think it's going to get worse before it gets better. I don't know what's up with that tribe. But do you think that it's going to be I think it's going to get worse before it gets better I don't know what's up with that tribe but do you think that this

is a sustainable strategy for Rome because when these players get to the merge don't you feel like that you know this it doesn't seem like that he is a person who is going to be able to hide once you get to the big

group of all the players. And I feel like that the other people that he is with, especially if Saul is gone, Genevieve, who we don't even see on the episodes, and Teenie, and Gishan, who are not necessarily, you know, the, I don't want to say not big personalities, but I feel like that in this big group of players, I think that maybe they would come across as non-threatening, whereas Rome, who's been so loud and there's going to be all the stories of like all the things he found and said and did that he's got to be such a big target once they get to the merge.

For sure. But it, I think certainly for them, but I think that it depends who is at that merge when he gets there because you have somebody like Gabe who said he wants to play like Russell Hance. And so if you have someone that's trying to play a big game like Russell Hance,

somebody like Russell Hance might want to look at somebody like Rome and be like, you know what? I need you to cascade in front of me. So do you align with a person like that to draw attention from the fact that you're trying to run the game and manipulate everyone into getting you to the end

and use him as a shield like that? Or do you ick that person out of there because they're so erratic? I don't know what these players are going to do, but I think that there is, it just depends who's over there and what their intention is for how they want to get to the game, to the end of the game. And maybe for Keyshawn and Teenie, they're looking at it like, OK, let's just hide behind Rome.

When we get to the merge, he'll get picked off. We'll be fine. Yeah, because I think that the way that they're floating right now is that they could find another group. They could find another alliance and could fit in. Rome is so sharp and jagged in his gameplay that he doesn't really slot in to everyone and everything. So he will definitely be in front of them. And that's what Tini was alluding to. Well, not alluding to. She literally said, you know, we're going to swim with this and let it drag us downstream because I can't fight it right now.

So let him go to his own demise. Well, I don't see it right now. So let him go to his own demise. Well, I don't see it lasting beyond the merge too much, but who knows? This is Survivor and everything flips on its head, like Andy. I mean, everything can turn around on a dime. So it's a new year. You know what that means, setting big goals. Maybe you promised yourself you're going to hit the gym every day, or maybe you said you're going to learn to make fire with a flint for once, or the classic save more money. But let's be honest, New Year's resolutions tend to fizzle out by February. Wouldn't it be great if at least one of those goals could be automatic? That's where Acorns comes in. Today's episode is sponsored by Acorns. You probably heard me talk about them before, and I'm excited to share how

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morning and they were complaining about the bed, the bamboo. And Sam said, come on, it's bamboo. Who cares? It's not the Ritz Carlton. You know what? Tell that to Randan, okay? I was about to say that. He can say what he wants to, but Randan woke up and the arm was just non-functional.

So for me, that is a fair point. That is a fair point to make that this bamboo is not okay. At a certain point, I stopped sleeping on it and I actually would rather have slept in the dirt. And I did. I slept in the dirt every night because that bamboo is bad. Like you look at it and like, oh, it's bamboo. It's not supposed to be comfortable, but it is like damaging to your body in the worst ways. Yeah. What's the issue? Is it just the bamboo is, is hard or it's uneven? Like what is the, um, for the people? And we did not have bamboo like that, uh, in the Amazon. So I don't know. Yeah. It, it is so big and, and, and thick and like, just, it is, it is so hard and it has

no give. And when you are laying on it, it is like your nerves get shut off, like your blood flow is not getting your arm. I woke up many times. I'm glad I didn't wake up the way Brandon did. But I did wake up many times and I could not clench my fingers for like the first hour of waking up because it is just your full body weight pressing down on this hard bamboo. And then, like you said, it's not even. And so we did the best, Hunter and I did the best we could putting our shelter together, but there's nothing to fix that hard bamboo. And a lot of it has these little, these knots on it, like at the certain points of the bamboo, it has these little ridges and those are like,

they cut into you, like cut into you. So it's almost better to just sleep in the dirt and forget about the bamboo altogether, honestly. What's the issue with sleeping in the dirt or the sand? Are there bugs? I, well, when we were there, there was ants. There was ants everywhere. I mean, I would think it would be spiders and snakes, but it was like ants everywhere.

So that was an issue, but I have arachnophobia and I didn't even really see any spiders crawling on me or anything. I slept right beside the fire every night. And there's nothing wrong with the dirt. The dirt is just fine. And I think people like the bamboo maybe because it makes you feel like you're elevated above the ground. But if you are that close, the things are going to get to you regardless. So I'd rather just lay on the ground and call it a day. As long as you have a roof, I don't care where I lay down at. Just give me something to block that rain.

Yeah. Maybe some of the sun and I'm good. Okay. So we saw some of the tension going on between Sam and Annika. Did that feel familiar? Any kind of that camp tension from your experience in survivor seven listen there are sometimes in the game where you just don't vibe with someone and i clocked that sam and annika were going to do that based on the last challenge that they did when they were trying to work that little ball with the three sides and i was like oh they're not communicating well at all so i felt it bubbling up and then when they you know put this uh clothes. So I felt it bubbling up. And then when they, you know, put this clothesline or whatever they were putting up, I was like, yep, there it is.

So yeah, it's just sometimes you just don't vibe with a person. And that's okay because we are not out there to be friends with these people. We are just playing a game, 18 strangers, 18 different paths. And it just kind of is what it is. As long as you can make it through the next day. Tevin, why was their clothes line so complicated i i feel like that like a clothesline it's a string right it's just like that's a string here but over here like why are we getting into science and math like we don't

need christian for the make the clothesline annika's like you know what i'm trying to win a nobel peace prize here i'm trying to be on like some rich like scientific list of like the greatest she's like mathematically scientifically i'm gonna tell you how the slope and the curve of a plus b squared equals c like i'm trying to work it out and i'm like listen all you need is your clothes to dry just get it up there the only thing that i could feel her on was when sam started swinging that machete. Well, he was mad. He got hot, I think. This was like Jack the Ripper. And like, this is crazy. But I don't know why it was so complicated.

I made a clothesline. I don't think they ever showed it in our season, but I made a clothesline and I literally just took a vine and I wrapped it around one tree and roped it to the other one and wrapped it around the other tree, made it as taut as possible.

And we hung clothes up. I mean, you just, it's not, it's not a laundromat, you know? Yeah, it seems easy enough, right? I don't know. So for baby Andy, though, it looks like that he found an opening after it looked like that he was really down and out,

and he was on the bottom. He somehow got through that first tribal council and now it's starting to feel like that he is showing not just signs of life but also that he is uh feeling like that he's got his like survivor legs under him listen his vim and vigor is back and i want to say i clocked it on episode one i I said, you know what? Andy is down right now, but I bet you they're showing this to us like this because he's going to have an Emily Flippen transformation.

He's going to be a completely different person. What did you see? I saw... I think it happened to me around the moment when Jeff was talking to him. Jeff was like, listen. He was like, they were going to vote me out. I had nothing to do. I couldn't do anything. I couldn't do. And Jeff was like, listen, he was like, you know, they were going to vote me out. I had nothing to do.

I couldn't do anything. I couldn't do anything. And Jeff was like, you're not done until your fire is extinguished. Like, you have life. And then there was a couple confessionals after that where Andy was like, yeah, like, I could see the survivor glow in his eye.

And you know it when you see it. I was like, that boy's not done. That boy's not done. And he's going to find his way back. And honestly, my hot take is that I think Andy will make it all the way to the final three. I think that kind of a story from being feeble and dilapidated and you should have been gone home and you made it to final three because you never give up until your fire is out. And he found it and mitigated his chaos and made it all the way to the end. What is Andy doing that Banu was unable to do?

You see, Rob, these are the things that you do. And you see, I just have to respond. And you see, God, God, just help me. That's what Banu said. Okay, do this. Okay, listen. I think that Banu was trying, though. Bondi was emotional, and he was fighting and trying to get through it, but it seemed like every time he would get to a different turn and try to get was, and then he lowered it. He went, you know what? I know where I messed up. I see how I could have been kicked out of this game. I see how what I did was probably not good. You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to sit back and I'm going to

observe now and figure out how do I find my way in. And I don't think Banu necessarily took a step back and went, okay, what am I missing? What puzzle piece is missing? And how do I fill that hole before someone else does? And instead, Banu was trying to figure out how to go to someone to say, make my puzzle piece fit. And he says, I am the puzzle piece. I'm going to find a place for me to fit. Okay. That was incredible. Great answer. Well done again. Okay. Tevin, Andy did something very interesting tonight. He went to Sierra and said, okay, I, I I've got Sam, but I need to get Sierra on my side. And he said to her, okay, here, I'll give you my shot in the dark. Um, and that seemed like it really was a gesture that Sierra seemed like very moved by that. Like, oh wow. I, you

know, I like, I wasn't really feeling Andy, but he he said here's my shot in the dark so i have to trust him and i was thinking about like so that works great that move seems to have worked great on sierra but there are other folks that you say that to them and they're going to say oh great what an idiot now i going to vote him out and keep his shot in the dark. How do you tell the difference between who a gesture like that will work for and who it is going to blow up in your face on? I don't think you can. I think that that is the crux of the Survivor game. And it is a four letter word and it's used in Survivor all the time, and it's called Risk. And so Andy took a big risk, but I don't think that he was—I think he just did—he was like, I have to do something. And so when your back is against the wall, you ain't got nothing to lose. So he was like, you know what, I'll give you my shot in the dark.

Believe me, trust me, trust me. But it really could have turned out bad for him. And when it first happened, I was like, oh, my God, Andy, what are you doing? And then when she was like, I trust him, you know, this was a great move for him. And now I have to work with—I was like, oh, my God, Andy, what are you doing? And then when she was like, I trust him. You know, this was a great move for him. And now I have to work with. I was like, wow. Again, these survivor gods are showing up for these people who I think are making big mistakes. Cue's voice.

But it ends up working out for them. And so it's all about risk, luck, and how do you adapt when it turns out good or bad for you. Yeah. Okay. luck and how do you adapt when it turns out good or bad for you yeah okay well i'm hoping that it's going to be enough to uh help out andy uh if and when he has to go to that tribal council i feel like the tide is turned against annika it seems to me like she's the person who's in the most trouble if they go to another tribal council that is that's very very true um and to not have that vote and to be on the bottom with

Sam, because it seems like Sam is kind of having his foot on the gas for that tribe. And so to be against him and to not have a vote, but again, if her alliance members are strong enough to hold her down while she is down and out, then she might could bounce back through it because I have faith that Anika can make it far in this game. Now, if given you know this this kind of you know shitty hand then i don't i don't know but that's kind of the game too but it's not looking too good right now yeah what'd you make out of and they really in the preview tried to make it seem like anika just came out and said like hey are you guys a couple uh and it turns out that she's uh relaying to sam and sierra the questions that she got asked when she went on the journey but what would you think about how uh

that came out uh with the reactions from sam and sierra who are both spoken for and are not in a showmance but they both got kind of put like uh on the back foot having to sort of explain like hey well what is this yeah i think one it's always a little bit awkward especially if you have somebody back at home and now you have to defend your yourself on you know live tv right national tv about this. But also I think what they were saying was like, Oh, this is dangerous because they are working together. So now you have a already, um, you just have a spotlight drawn on you and you have to figure out how do I go forward working with this person? And now knowing that not only do they think that we are, you know, working together, they think that we are together, together. So that muddies up their alliance completely

and how they go forward after that, I don't know, but they're going to have to do some real mitigation. Kevin, can I just tell you, my life would be over if I was Sam and then somebody was saying like, oh, Rob, are you in her?

Are you in a thing? And I was like, honey, if you're watching, uh, there's nothing going on here. It would be, it would be over that. If you haven't, if you talk to my wife about the,

the women I was on survivor with 20 years ago tonight, I'd get in a fight. Now, Rob, let me, let me be very clear. Okay. I watched you on that season. Your mouth was very, in a fight. Now, Rob, let me be very clear. I watched you on that season. Your mouth was very slight to the women back then, Rob. You was

talking about a lot of stuff. You was working it out. We weren't together yet. I was like, Rob, is Daddy Mackenzie's women on national TV? You were watching a different show. There was no Daddy Mackie. It a different show it was you it was you no you're you're watching you got confused it was boston rob i think you're watching no i don't know i didn't know if i was watching survival or the love boat i didn't know

who was i didn't know which episode i was watching rob i don't know love island yeah yeah okay all right let's talk about what's going on over on the blue tribe, the Tuku tribe. And we saw last week after TK got voted out, Kyle was in a bit of a bad spot coming out of last week's episode. Now, we didn't get the explanation that we were all asking last week about Gabe playing the idol that he just said, oh, I, you know, I heard my dad's voice and I just had to play the idol. Were you hoping we would get more of an explanation of what Gabe was going for there? Yeah, I was hoping he would expound a little bit because I remember I was a little bit shocked that he didn't, you know, play it for Sue in that moment. That's what I thought he was going to do. And then he ended up, you know, just kind of playing it for himself. But I think, you know, just to burn it,

again, a direct correlation to 46. I don't want the target. I don't want to go home with it. Well, he had to play it anyway, but I was hoping that there would be a little bit more. And maybe there will be. Maybe later he'll come back and have a confessional and be like, this is exactly why I did.

This was my master plan. But right now I'm just kind of left like, I don't really know what, what your thought process was. Right. So, you know, right now.

Yeah. Okay. So Gabe was still, you know, feeling pretty good, but then he's trying to double back and they got Tiana to work with them to vote out TK. But now he wants to go back and sort of like,

okay, now I want to sub out Kyle for Tiana in the alliance. Is he going to be able to make this work with Sue and Caroline? I don't. Sue is a strong player.

She has very strong convictions, and so I don't know what he's going to be able to convince Sue to do, because Sue does what Sue does. It is a tsunami for sure. A tsunami. It is a tsunami for sure. But I don't know if Gabe has been able to move the pieces in the right way so far. He's been kind of a pretty key decision maker in the game, I think, so far.

So I think that it is possible to be done. Tiana's my winner pick. I really feel like Tiana's going all the way. Do you still feel that way? Because in the preseason, I felt like that she was probably one of the top two or three picks. But I feel like, and she was very quiet this episode. I feel like that in the position she's in right now, I'm not feeling too great about Tiana. Yeah, I feel like I feel like, again, everything can change on a dime. But I felt

last episode I was like, Tiana's in a great spot. I mean, I felt that way because I thought she was a key vote in getting TK out of the game. TK was coming after her. Also, she felt about the smile thing. And she was like, you come after me, then I'm going to have to come after you. And she was able to swing vote her way to get TK out of the game and then went back to being a non-threat. No one's really thinking about Tiana as a threat. And if she can make it through the game and do some more moves along the way, she already has a great, you know, or starting to build a great little resume. Though it's too early to think about that. you know, or starting to build a great little resume,

though it's too early to think about that. But like, listen, every time somebody mentioned my name and tried to come after me or go after me or, you know, trod on me, they were gone. So I think it is a beginning of a great book. And I think that she's going to keep writing. Well, maybe she could have a baby Andy-like rising from the ashes. But I really felt like that she made a big mistake

when she voted out tk because i don't think that tk was coming for her and i think the tk wanted to keep like tk was kind of feeling like that gabe is too squirrely to want to work with and i thought that sue kind of sold her on the women's alliance being a thing and so i thought that she ended up uh making the wrong decision and maybe she didn't want to potentially go to rocks and maybe she might have been a little bit scared about that. But I'm worried about where Tiana is, but maybe I'm more worried about Kyle. Oh, God, poor Kyle, poor, poor Kyle. I really do love Kyle a lot. But with the way that this season is going, everything is so different.

They didn't have the sweat and savvy. The journey is different. The journey is at a different time. Like, everything is kind of different. And even the advantage, like, steal a vote is now in play. That wasn't during our season. I wonder if this season, to keep the trend going, that there's a tribe swap this season, right? And if there's a tribe swap, that completely undermines all of the dynamics we've been talking about right now.

Yeah, it would be interesting if there was a tribe swap i feel like that the one time in the new era that we got a tribe swap was in 45 where uh it was a season where uh lulu lost the first three challenges and uh they were down uh three people and i believe now that uh nobody else had gone out of the game so it was six versus six versus three and I think that maybe and I don't know how they build the season if they build it if they decide ahead of time there's going to be a swap or if they have like a switch that they could flip of okay if it ends up being so lopsided let's do a swap but this is an interesting season and I don't think we've had this in the new era the chat will fact check me on this where we had yellow and then blue and then red go to tribal council where that this is completely even i'm running that is i don't know rob you kind of

that's so interesting. Yeah, so it's 5-5-5. Huh. So I don't think that we would have a tribe swap. Maybe not. Yeah. I want it though. I like the tribe swap,

but I feel like that it's also, you know, we're building these stories in these three tribes. So I feel like that there's still a lot that i want to see how it's going to play out but for first off uh now could kyle be in the andy griffith alliance could he be there uh could he go to mayberry i think so kyle's very sweet um i think kyle is is loyal i think he's but he kind of was like you know i think tk was the right choice so he did make a good move with that. But I think I think he could have been in the Andy Griffith alliance. But I don't know. Actually, I'm going to say no.

Andy Griffith is Andy and Barney. And that's it. That's my third. So actually, no. But he could have been an extension. He could have been like a spinoff of Andy Griffith. OK, so that we see where Gabe tries to bring Kyle in and offers him an olive branch. Okay, great.

All you have to do is vote against Tiana. And Kyle, who I did not think would be trying to do anything underhanded in the game, seems like just like the nicest guy. He does try to play a little sneaky and he goes to Sue and Caroline and says, hey. He does. Just so you know that Gabe, you think he's your friend. He wants to, he wants to take you to the end because he thinks that he can beat you.

And he's like, so what are we going to do about that? And Sue, I feel like correctly is like, Hey, listen, buddy. Like,

Oh, like Gabe wants to take me to the end. Oh my God. How horrible you voted. You wants to take me to the end oh my god how horrible you voted you tried to vote me out yesterday that's true i mean that that is very very true but i mean he is on the bottom he's trying to find a way out he's trying to turn the tide and like get back into a place of power and so i get it but i also get sue and and what she said but i think the way sue responded was the thing that was like be careful sue because i think that that could have that could have easily and it still might have they kind of shifted away from it but that could put

her in a bad spot because of the way that she chose to respond in that moment i mean tevin could you imagine what a dream if you found out that somebody was trying to take you to the end because they thought that they could beat you. That's it. Call me goat. You call me goat all day long. Drag me. Drag me all the way to Dana. That's what you got to do. Oh, my goodness gracious. I don't want to put that burden on you. But if you want to, take me. And Kyle's like, see, I'm trying to help her out and she's not even receptive to this. Kyle, Kyle, no, no. But he's so sweet and i want him to you know make it i think he i

think he he can but i don't know that that tsunami is strong i think tsunami is is very strong um tevin i don't like to talk too much about the previews uh because we'll still have next week to talk about that but what the hell is going on that they find there's like that i'm hoping that this has got to be some kind of like situation where they let in survivor 42 the contestants put like fake blood on or drea stuck her hand in the red paint but they don't know are teasing like there's been like some kind of like crime scene accident i don't know i don't know i looked at it and i was like what is how is like is this an episode of yellow jackets or like what is happening i don't know. I looked at it and I was like, what is, I was like, is this an episode of Yellow Jackets? Or like, what is happening? I don't know what's going on right now.

What happened? It don't look, it don't look too good. But I'm like, I mean, the only thing that could cause that much blood is a cut. So I'm like, maybe it's the machete gone wrong. I'm like, I don't know. But that's a lot of blood. I think you're almost dead. They cut her arm off? Yeah. I mean, my son says to me, like, Dad, what is going on there? Is Sue dead? Like, why is there so much blood? It's a lot.

But it doesn't look, it kind of, I don't know. It kind of looked like it was light. It looked more like paint than blood. It looked like paint. But I don't know what they're. It looked like, I think it's paint, but I don't know where the paint would have come from is my thing I don't know I think they have a lot of like CBS the rest of the nights of the week they have a lot of shows where it's like they're investigating a murder like I wonder if they're trying to like pull over like and if you like investigating murders Wednesday

on Survivor you'll never believe the crime scene they discover. Covered in blood. Correct. It's insane. I was like, oh my god, but now I can't wait till next week because I'm like, what did Sue get in? Yeah. Tevin, the immunity challenge tonight was pretty intense.

It was intense. The thing that I thought was interesting about it was that Jeff stopped down a little bit, even before the the challenge to ask the contestants about, OK, you watch this on TV, but then you see it in real life. And what's it like and how intimidating is it for you to participate in the challenge? give us a sense of, uh, cause I, I really feel like that, you know, back when I was on the show, I feel like that we did not have challenges that were like as big of a build as something like this was. So I can't even, you know, relate to what it's like to participate in a challenge like this. Can you like give us like the mental picture of what that's like? Oh, for sure.

You get there and you are immediately like, it is intimidating. It's so big. And you're like, oh my God. But then you also have the fear and the worry of what is this going to look like? Am I going to do well? Am I going to compete well? Is this going to be the end of my journey because I don't do well? Are we going to go to tribal?

It's all this anxiety on top of it and i related to kashan because in episode i think three um we did um the challenge which is the same one where hunter grabbed onto my legs and we went over that little the barrel yeah and that was that's documented proof of my first time ever jumping oh yeah i forgot you had that experience in the water and you almost drowned. Yes. Yeah, I almost drowned. And so that was my first time ever jumping in water and swimming, especially the ocean, ever, period, on Earth, ever, documented proof of it. And so I could relate to Kashan when it's like, I am not too good at this. And I did swimming lessons. I tried to. But there was a trauma that I was trying to get over.

And so when you have something like that in the water, in the middle of the ocean, high towers, it is intimidating. Not only for the sheer fact that my dream could end if we don't do well, but the fact of like I have to physically with no food, by the way, and no, you know, don't have sufficient energy do this big hurtling challenge. It's crazy. Yeah. Jeff said, look, and this isn't a swimming pool. This is the ocean. It's not a swimming pool. It's not. There's currents and like, this isn't a swimming pool. This is the ocean. It's not a swimming pool. It's not.

There's currents and sharks and I don't know. A shark almost got roamed tonight. No. I don't believe there was a shark in that water until I see it. And if there was a shark roamed, why didn't you go get it? If you want to be Rupert,

go get the shark. That's true. That's true. That's true. So they did the challenge. There was like a hero role in this challenge where you had to pick somebody to go first, and then everybody else was going to go in pairs. I thought that they were setting Rome up for a pretty big fall in this episode because we don't normally see so much strategizing of the tribes

before they do the challenge we saw Rome uh talk about like where Saul's like okay let me let me do this and Rome said uh no I have to do it I'm gonna be mad I know I can do it and I'll be mad if if you don't let me do it so let me so let me do it i'm like all right oh here we go but in fairness to rome he did he did great like uh there were no there were i was really expecting him to like fall on his face he did he did great but no the way that he handled it that did not seem ideal no i i knew he was gonna i had no doubt in my mind that rome was gonna do great i knew he was going to. I had no doubt in my mind that Rome was going to do great. I knew he was going to do great. But again, it is about how you communicate with people. This is a social game at its core. You can say it's a physical game. It's this kind of game. It's that kind of game. But at the beginning, middle end of the day, it is a social game.

And the way that you talk to people and the way that you navigate that social aspect is your lifeline in the game. And if you don't do that well, you will be the one going home. So I thought that I had no doubt, again, that he was going to do well, but I just didn't like the way that he approached it with these people. Like, I'm going to be so angry if you don't do it right,

because I would have done it right. And it's like, oh. But again, the survivor gods are probably going to spare him. I just don't understand. Yeah, I mean, he got through it. And ultimately, that he ends up being on the tribe that goes to tribal council.

And it's really, you know, Andy had way more problems than he did. But that was shocking for me. I thought Andy was going to sail it. And I was like, come on, Andy. And then he was the one struggling. I was like, oh, my goodness gracious. Yeah. It seems like the balance beam was not that easy.

No, no. And it's slippery and it's wet and and it just won your jeff's like if your toenail hits the water you got to go back so you have to do it right and like you have to get it yeah look it looks so easy when sari is able to you know do it after a couple of tries but no it's tough listen a couple of tries. Listen, Sari was working hard to get across that balance beam. She got across it. She got across it. But I was sitting there like, come on, Sari, come on.

But it took her a good six, seven, eleven tries. It took a minute. It took a minute. That seems tough, the balance beam. Like, balance beam just on solid ground is tough. I want to do it. I didn't get to do that. We did not have a balance beam.

I also related to Genevieve. I feel like this whole episode was kind of calling out do that. We did not have a balance beam. I also related to Genevieve. I feel like this whole episode was kind of calling out to me. You know, Gashon and his swimming, and then Genevieve looking under the bench. That was almost verbatim the same challenge we did, except at the end of ours, Hunter did the basketballs. But I also looked under the bench when I set out of this particular challenge,

jumping off those platforms. So, you know, good for her looking under the bench. I don't know if one would have been there, but it was a good attempt to look. Look, at least for Genevieve, she got on the show. That's it. She found some screen time under the bench. That's it. A lot of people, I saw that on Twitter.

Everyone's like, where's Genevieve? We haven't really seen much. I was like, you know, that is fair. I guess we have not seen many confessionals or anything where is like what's going on maybe she's gonna bloom later maybe yeah do you feel like is that for like for you know not to get too much into the edit reading do you feel like that okay for Genevieve do you feel like that she's probably safe because we'll get to learn more about her later or do you feel like that maybe OK, for Genevieve, do you feel like that she's probably safe because we'll get to learn more about her later?

Or do you feel like that maybe that she doesn't have that much of a story to tell? No, I think I think that it could be a blooming later. what it feels like to me is that when, if you are skunked in the way that she's skunked, a lot of people would assume that that would relate to the fact that you may not make it to where, um, you know, too, too,

too far. But again, it could all be a bluff. Survivor is not dumb. They, they watch the internet. They know what people think. So they might do that to blow you back,

you know, to blow your mind. Tevin, I do feel like that they do really try, especially in the new era to give everybody something. Like, I feel like that, you know, back in the day, you know, to blow your mind. Tevin, I do feel like that they do really try, especially in the new era to give everybody something. Like, I feel like that, you know, back in the day, you know, there might be some, Oh, if you're the second person out, you don't really get too much on the show, but I really do feel like that they try to like, okay, we brought you out here. You know, they are excited about all 18 people that they put on the show. I feel like that they want

to, you know, be able to share the story that they have, especially with the 90 minutes. So like I was feeling personally great about Asia, but now in hindsight, I feel like, okay, well, we, maybe we got a lot about Asia's story because they knew that we weren't going to have her for that much time on the show. They were excited about having her on there. And so maybe for Genevieve to be charitable, uh, that her story is yet to be told. That's it. I,

that, that could very well be it. You just, you never really know what's going to happen because this is a game where it flips on its head on a dime for the players. And I think that survivor has, it's starting to master how to make survivor accessible at home to you, to make you feel like you're in it.

And I think one of the ways that they try to do that is to make you feel like the game has flipped on you too. You thought you knew what was going to happen, but oh, here's what's actually going to happen. So it might be all part of the play. Tevin, you said that you felt like that the show was speaking to you tonight a bunch of times. What else did you see that you felt like

really related to you? Listen, I think, like i said kashan with um kashan with with that swimming thing spoke to me genevieve doing reaching under that bench spoke to me them going on that journey just spoke to me um and that whole experience of that yeah can i stop down on the journey that you went on because i feel like that that was my favorite one from all of the journeys from the new era i really liked how they did that of that it was i just thought it was interesting um that it was a game that required deception and trust and it seemed like that it meant something in terms of like the relationship that you and maria had uh i mean it really you know to use your words skunked jelinski um and that he ended up and maybe it was sort of

like okay you if you get the bad draw of the skull card was that what he had the skull card he did yeah and so if you get the bad draw then maybe you're really in a bad spot but i just thought it was interesting to be forced to be put into this situation where you have to lie to people and you want to get off on the right foot on day, whatever, day two, you don't want to necessarily make people feel like that,

that you can't trust you. But you know, that's, I think that the thing that people maybe aren't, don't expect in, especially in the new era game and for better or for worse, you get put into a situation like very early on where you have to you're back against the wall and you may be put in a very

uncomfortable position where it is do or die very early on for you that's it and and and you kind of just have to figure out how to how to navigate that when it happens. And unfortunately for Jelinski, you know, it was die, literally. But it did, you know, allow me to have a little bit of, it allowed me to kind of build a bit of an alliance in that moment and to work to get myself in a position later on, you know, down the road. So it worked out for me. But that game was, was, was tough. Like you said, when you have, when you're built to already deceive somebody, it's going to go bad for somebody. Somebody's got it rough. Somebody already just has a bad off the bat. I want to get into taking some questions here with Kevin. Uh, so fire away in the chat. If you have, you have questions about tonight's episode.

For our patrons, a reminder that on Friday I will be live once again. I will be taking our patron questions and we will be doing that, I believe, at 4 p.m. coming up on Friday as we do. I'm sorry. Sam's telling me 3pm. 3pm. Episode 3. 3pm. I'll be taking patron questions. No, 3.30? Okay.

3.30. Okay. Listen, if you're on Patreon, we'll send you the link. You'll know what time. Okay? It'll be fine. I think we probably took about 30 callers on, uh, this past Friday of, uh, questions about episode two. So we've been having a lot of fun on Fridays to, uh, get into everything from the episode. Okay. All right. Tevin, let's jump into things. Um, all right. What's, what's going on on, on your end over here? I feel like we're moving.

Listen, I'm trying to figure it out. My phone is losing life and I'm trying to make sure that she lives to see another day. Okay. Is that how we're connected to you? Is our lifeline potentially in danger? Oh, it's definitely in danger, but trust me, it ain't never in danger for long. So even if she died, I'll be back. Okay, good. Okay.

But we'll see. I think we've injected some of like the, like dangerous fun of the new era into the podcast of like, Tevin could be gone at any second. I very well could, but like I said, I will be back. I'm on the edge of my seat. Okay.

I've been working with it for a while, Rob, but I've still been focused. I know you are. I know you are. Okay. All right. So Christian did get back to us. He said that Tevin is exactly right on the odds. How about that?

After losing the first mandatory draw, it's 50-50 on the odds how about that after losing the first mandatory draw it's 50 50 on the second it uh it's when it's before your first draw your odds of getting the advantage are 66 to 33 if you're going to draw twice so okay so if you go into it from the start you have a 66 chance uh by playing but then it goes down to 50-50 once you draw a... once you play once. Okay. I still think it's

the... Put your hand back in the bag. Come on. I would have put my hand back in the bag, personally. As Jeff says, now that's how you do it on Survivor! You know what, Rob? That was actually a very good Jeff impression's how you do it on Survivor. You know what, Rob? That was actually a very good deaf impression. Can you do it one more time? Now that's how you do

it on Survivor. You might need to be a deaf impersonator. All right. Lori B wants to know, is Rome this season's cue? We were having so much fun dangerous fun and then

we lost Tevin and we'll find out if and when Tevin will be back okay but we're doing fine I'll take your questions as we go along here on a Wednesday night no No problem. Okay. All right. Question from Gary. If a tribe becomes the disaster tribe at this point, which tribe would it be? I don't think that we can necessarily get a disaster tribe at this point. I mean, we've had three episodes. I mean, typically,

we go five votes before we get the merch. So the worst case scenario would be a tribe drops the next two challenges. So I don't think it's likely, uh, that, uh, you know, even if we got to, uh, what it'd be five, five and three, I don't think it would necessarily be a total disaster unless somebody flames out. So of the, of the tribes the tribes though uh who's in the worst spot i mean i certainly could see uh another scenario where we have uh lavu ended up uh going back to tribal council now a couple times in a row where the i think that the secret weapon that we haven't talked about too much

is that it seems like that on Gata, Rachel is like the ultimate puzzle whiz to me. I feel like that she's been really, really strong in the puzzle so far. And so the puzzle is the equalizer and it feels like that red, uh, why why no while they did put together the big puzzle in the first challenge and they did it like very quickly they had such a big lead i do wonder about uh you know red being able to do the puzzle moving forward okay all right how about do you think that genevieve would have been more at risk of being voted out had she competed in the immunity challenge? I'm not really sure why. feel like that there was a scenario where if if teeny and kashan would have been on board i think that they could have sent genevieve home uh tonight and for whatever reason and we just have not seen

too much of the genevieve relationship it seems like that there's a comfort level there with teeny and kashan with genevieve where if they wanted to pile the votes on to get Genevieve out, I just think that they could have taken that shot. Here's Tevin. Okay. That's how you do it on Survivor. Now that's how you do it on the podcast. Listen, I told you, I made it plain. I made it clear. I said, listen, the phone might die, but I figured it out. I got it straight. I'm glad we set it all up and explained it before it happened. Because it would have been very confusing, but that's how you do it. I adapted.

I let it happen. And I didn't say that my life in the city. Your game is never over until Jeff snuffs you to it. So I had something that tore me down, but I wasn't gone forever. And I came back. And now I'm back. Yes. People thought you were going to be gone forever. And I came back and now I'm back. Yes. People thought you were going to be gone forever.

And then you came back. Incredible. Boom. Okay. All right. Sydney Johnson says plug for Tevin's cameo. He sent one for my watch party this weekend. It was the best I've ever gotten.

So much fun. How deep in the cameo game are you Tevin? I'm, I'm? I'm pretty deep. Like, I've been blessed to be able to do it and that people want it. It is amazing that people pay money because something that you do is going to brighten their daughter or their child or themselves. Like, it's going to brighten their day just to see you do something. I bet you do a great cameo. I do it.

They're not, you know, came do i do they're not you know cumios um maybe they're cumios but are you in the the leaderboard like i feel like that some of the survivors i feel like between like uh coach and q and uh carolyn and tyson like i i feel johnny fair play like i feel like it's very competitive people are like fighting for like the top rankings on cameo are you in that mix they definitely are i'm not fighting for no no first place second place third i'm fighting for the people okay let me be very clear yeah and so i just when people order them i do them but i am on the leaderboard somewhere i think i'm like 24 or 23 or something like that but um where I'm really doing good, I have also have,

well, I just made it, but people have already ordered Kamala Harris cameos. So I have that too. I made a whole new cameo for Kamala impersonations. So thank you for saying that. Do you put on a wig?

Do you put on, like, do you do like a, like a costume? Oh, Rob. Oh, yes. I have a full beige suit. Let me be very clear about this. I have a full beige suit. I have a full clear about this. I have a full beige suit.

I have a full... I don't keep it far. Kamala's never far. You see my American flag pin? I have a full wig, Rob. Somebody send this to John Lovett. Yeah. I will.

I will. I'm ready. I am ready more than you know. You always do, Kamala. I put my little wig on like this, Rob. I shift it to the side like this, flip it over. Okay. Oh, it looks a mess.

This is terrible. I have to fix it. Okay. But I put the wig on. I have my thing on and I just let me be very clear. Okay. We have to vote. Okay.

We have a hard road ahead of us, but we can get there if we just turn the page. Yeah. And move forward. Vice President Harris, what do you think about Rome? Okay. The city or the person? The person. What do you think about the prospects of Rome

potentially in these next few weeks of the game? Okay. Let me be very clear. Okay. I think that you have to think about what has been. And you can't be too burdened by what has been. And so when you think about Rome, you have to hope and you have to have dreams and aspirations that make you think that you can work. Okay. And that you can maybe use them to your

advantage, but you have to be careful. Okay? Because there are people out there that will try to take your dream. So you have to just watch, okay? That's great. Have you done any other characters on Cameo? Not on Cameo, no. On TikTok, sometimes I'll do some other people. But I just do Kamala and then I do myself. So that's all I do.

And I go all out for a birthday. If you get a birthday cameo for me, I buy a cake, I get candles, I sing to you. You buy a cake? I do. I buy a cake. I don't buy like a whole cake, but I do buy like a slice of whatever kind of cake

I think that person might like. Tevin, you ever go to one of those restaurants and they have like the plastic dessert of like what they have and they bring it out? Like, oh, we have this, we have this, we have this. Yeah. A reusable plastic cake. Yeah, you need the prop desserts for the cameos. No, I only give my people the best.

And so I use the money that I'm going to get from them anyway. And I just use a little bit of it and I get them a cake and just make them feel special because they just want to feel special and just for you to say something to them. So to just go the extra mile just gives them like everything they need. Tevin, speaking of food, what'd you think about the segment about Sam,

all the different foods that he's never tried before? He never had, I believe, he never had a watermelon? It was such an interesting scene. He never had, I believe, he never had a watermelon? It was such an interesting scene. He never had a pineapple. I couldn't believe it. He's never had zucchini. He's never had eggplant.

He's never had, he didn't know what broccolini was. He didn't know what an heirloom tomato was. Now, I gotta be honest. Okay, now, I know, I've had all those things. I don't know necessarily if I know the difference between an heirloom tomato and a regular tomato.

Come on, Rob. Okay, let me say, I worked in a grocery store, so I guess I do know the difference, but the heirloom tomatoes are, they're not, like the regular tomato is really round. The heirloom tomatoes have like, they look kind of, I don't even know how to describe, I know them when I see them.

They look very bumpy on the top. Like they are, when you see them, you'll know it's an heirloom tomato. They're very different, but they're also flatter. So they're much flatter. And then the top of them like have these little bumps going to the center of the tomato. Okay. All right. So there's a special heirloom tomato.

I'll have to try one. Okay. Go to your closest Whole Foods and get you a nice fresh heirloom tomato. I bet you, I one. Go to your closest Whole Foods and get you a nice, fresh heirloom tomato. I bet you it'll change your life. And say thank you, Tevin, later. Thank you. People say it looks like mini pumpkins. That's it.

They look like mini pumpkins. They're flatter and they have those little pumpkin ridges on the top. Those little, yeah. Yeah. They look sick. Okay. Maybe we can have All the vegetables lined up For the harvest at the live show

In a couple of weeks That's what we really should do And I want to watch him go down the line And eat them all I want him to try them all That'll be the merge feast All vegetables Listen I know about a merge feast How many of those foods could Liz eat? That'll be the merch feast All vegetables Listen

I know about a merch feast Now Tevin, how many of those foods could Liz eat? You see how he bombards me Any of them? Heirloom tomato From Applebee's I don't know if Liz could have had an heirloom tomato I think she might be allergic to tomatoes

but maybe she could have she might could have had the skin of a broccolini I don't think so literally when we won that basket of fruit oh my god we had so much food we gave Liz all she could have oh my god we had so much food we gave liz with this all she could have was the apples like we had so much food and she was like i guess i'll just eat the apples like

you guys have so much food and i and i didn't feel really bad but all she could have was the apples i'm like you can't have nothing all this food and you it's so crazy it's so crazy that that is the existence that she finds herself in and I couldn't imagine let's take some more questions and okay how about question from Steven

did Hunter build you that Tempur-Pedic bed Kyle said he could have built the Tempur-Pedic I heard that I liked that comment I was like listen Tempur-pedic bed. No, he didn't. Kyle said he could have built a Tempur-pedic. I heard that. I liked that. I liked that comment.

I was like, listen, Kyle, make me a Tempur-pedic. I specifically asked Hannah, make me a Tempur-pedic, and he did not make me a Tempur-pedic. Instead, he kept his silly post-pedic mattress he built, and he slept on it every night, and he didn't let nobody else sleep on it. What did he do? He made a mattress out of vines? It was unbelievable. So he he wouldn't have brought that. He made a mattress out of vines?

It was unbelievable. So he made the structure with the bamboo. He then used the fish gear that we, I was making a crab trap out of it, but then it ended up being like a coconut holder because I don't know what happened with that. But he used these thin, I guess, shavings of bamboo and used those as like the slacks. And then he weaved vines through those slacks.

And like, it was unbelievable that he did that. It was unbelievable. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like they say that, oh, you could split the bamboo. Is that possible? To, uh, you mean like just split bamboo straight down? Straight down.

Yeah. Yeah. You can split it straight down. That's what I wanted to do with the roof because my, we didn't have if we had two machetes hunter and i could have done it but we didn't have enough time in a day to worry about you know slaving ourselves to make it but i wanted to split the bamboo down the middle and then make an entire row of bamboo facing like bottom up like this and then go back and then put the top bamboo in the the creases of that so that the water,

it would be completely rainproof because it would just, it would cover all the holes. That's what I wanted to do. But we ended up using the palm tree leaves because it was quicker. Okay. All right. Laurie has a question. Is Rome this season's Q? Is Rome going to have a Rome skirt coming soon? Listen, you're not going to get me wrapped up into this because Q is not going to come after me by saying that I said that Rome was about to take his business away. I don't know. I don't know. You said though that you would wear a Q

skirt. I would wear a Q skirt. And in fact, ask Q where that name came from because I told him, called him Q skirts, so I'm still waiting on my 25% of all Q-skirt merchandise profit. I think Rome needs to go for the Rome hat. I think that

he needs to leave the skirts alone. That Rome hat is pretty wild. Yes, but he definitely has the erraticness of Q. I think Q is different than Rome for sure, but he does have that, like, I'm just here to play. I don't give a dang. The Rome hat is pretty wild though

it's kind of like it's giving like paddington bear yes rob yes yes can we get a side by side right if you if if paddington pulls up on the screen I'm not I'm not gonna take it I'm not doing this on here Rob I'm gonna put my I'm about to put my shades on I'm not involved see this is Rob I'm not involved I didn't say it Rob did it I'm not involved okay Angela has a question uh would Asia have done better if she didn't go on the journey you know going back to the first episode a lot of uh of people you know the RHAP fans felt like okay this was a mistake a big mistake Asia should not have gone on the journey but it seemed like that teeny saved a spot for her

but was that the little bit of an opening that Rome needed to be able to build that alliance was that actually like, were the seeds of this planted back in the first episode? I think so. I definitely think so. Because again, but that was a little bit earlier. So that kind of goes against what I was saying earlier. But she did, I feel like, work her way back

where it seemed like she was leading the charge of people who were like looking for Rome, calling Mr. Gamer. Hey uh what are you up to they saw him like going headfirst into the well but you know honestly i think um someone has said this i was listening to something and they were like listen this kind of stuff stuff changed it might have been your podcast last week i think you and austin were talking about it and um i think that one of you had said something like do do decisions get changed in a second like that? Do you switch your votes that swiftly?

And I think that for me, when it felt like a change, at least from the edit, is that when she began speaking at tribal council, it felt like that could have been a moment that— So I think the seeds could have been planted in that, you know, journey. But I think when she was at that tribal council and, you know, she kept speaking and saying certain things and then making eyes with Saul, I think Teenie got a little spooked. I think that everyone kind of got crazy. And I wonder how many people changed their votes. Maybe they weren't going to do that. And then they switched back to it. I have no way of knowing unless they expound next week, but it does feel like there was a couple things that she did this episode that may have switched people's, you know, cut their switch on it,

and been like, I don't know if Asia, if I can keep her around anymore. I mean, Teenie said as much, especially with the Genevieve, her not wanting to go against Saul. It did feel like that Teenie and Kashawn were turned off when that Asia did not want to go ahead and vote out Saul. And I'm just of two minds about it

because I feel like, yeah, like, you know, Sandra Diaz-Twine will tell you, okay, you know, just anybody but me, fine. Just get me to the next tribal council. And yes, Sandra is a two-time winner, but I just, I don't know if that's a winning game to go ahead and be in that situation. We talked about how like bleak things look potentially for Saul at the next tribal council. I mean, that aren't you better off to try to go for the move that could potentially get you to the end as opposed to just, you know, go ahead and be at the bottom and potentially get picked off next? That's it. You have to do something to change your circumstances and

your circumstances may not change for tomorrow, but they may change for down the road. And so you both have to be thinking about how do I get to tomorrow, but also how do I get to next week? So you have to manage both of those things. And to speak about the survivor gods and what they've been doing for these people, it's amazing to me that Rome is not thinking about the danger of Teenie. Because if it was me, I would still be thinking about the fact that Teenie took a shot over there and showed him my eye without my permission. So it's funny that he is now working with Teenie and wants to get Asia or Saul out. But the person who actually blew your cover in the beginning has been Teen yeah i mean he's all in on this four-person alliance that he has listen if it works better than the six godspeed to you yeah okay by the way all right so all right i mean you tell me now tevin oh my god oh my god oh my god oh Is this not wrong? Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God.

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Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Now you see, now you see when the people like you. It's the same hat. Oh my God. Oh my God. I'm sweating bullets. When these people like you up in these comments,

I just want them to know Tevin did that. Oh my God. Now, Tevin, we had, you had a great moment in survivor 46 when you talked about how you wanted to go clean the fish uh for the tribe uh did that did that bring you back when rome had to clean his own fish tonight oh god absolutely not. Because I would have never in the history of ever went to go catch betta fish and bought them back and then ate two of them myself and then spit the remnant on the back of one of my. Asia was like, did you just spit that on my back? And he was like, I don't know what you're talking about. spit that on my back and he was like i don't know i don't know what you're talking about um like yeah it was i don't think he tried to spit it on her back but i think that he was just like uh trying like eating them in such a messy way that he got that he like splattered onto onto her i don't think it was intentional what happened he was just trying to be messy and it ended up you

know getting a little bit you know carried away but yeah i i feel like he had i i i'm of two mindsets of it i was at one side of my body i was like period because y'all ain't do nothing to get these fish y'all i gotta do the fire and i gotta cook and i gotta clean and i gotta make the beds and all this stuff you still want me to give you food i'm eating too i get it but at the same time rome you cannot go catch these fish and then eat too and leave these people hungry right like i will say uh that you know we had a like kind of a parallel situation at gata uh in last week's episode where it's like okay baby andy we don't want him like uh we know that he he's he's the person who's like we're gonna when he's gonna open a

coconut we're all gonna pretend and and this group couldn't bring themselves to be like oh my like uh Rome you did it congratulations you know uh you know on Survivor you gotta you gotta fake it you you definitely do you definitely have to fake it and I think I think that rome doesn't care rome is no rome is playing a character too though he's trying to even though saul kind of clocked him it was like i think you're lying but um i you definitely do have to fake it but what i will say is that i did it didn't bring me back to the same realization of like oh rome providing fish that reminds me but provider yeah yeah the the provide he is doing it though he is providing them stuff i wonder why they aren't getting a lot of oh not we had a lot of crabs even though they didn't show it we had

tons of crabs on nami beach and so hunter and i went crabbing every day and we ate well off those crabs and we had like 16 in one day and you guys uh kept liz fed and then it was when you and hunter were gone. That's where Liz really had the most problems. That's it. And I think Hunter told her that I'm pretty sure he said that he told her, he was like, Liz,

you just voted off the one person that was making sure that you ate. Cause we made sure we were like, listen, we caught 16 crabs. Let's go and give 10 of them to Liz. Not that man. I mean, dramatic,

but we gave, we gave Liz more than a fair, you know, what we were getting just to make sure, because she wasn't eating the coconut and stuff like that. So she got pissed after I left. I said, well, sister girl, that's just that's how the game go. OK, we have a question for you, Tevin, from Omer is in the chat. He says, hey, Omer, is the Survivor 47 cast more or less unhinged than the Survivor 46 cast?

I think that this cast is less unhinged. But if they're more unhinged, they know how to weave it well. So you can't really tell. You look at 46 and you're like these people are like i don't know how they even made it onto the beach because everybody is everywhere i think rome is probably the most like you know spasm type of character but i don't think 47 is that unhinged at all but 46 yeah that's unhinged okay okay um how about um Okay. Okay. Um, how about, um,

Paolo says, uh, what are your thoughts on Caroline passing the idol to her tribe mates? Is this a course correction from Venus and Soda? Oh God. I saw, I was wondering what she was doing. Cause it's like, she was like sifting it. And I was like, what is she doing? And then I saw Tiana had it and I was like, okay, so she just kind of, I think it's course correction. I'm sure, but I think it's also just, I think everything that you do in the game of Survivor is a know, and that becoming a problem or them looking at you like, I don't know, anything could be an issue. So just hand it off, show sportsmanship, swing it around the tribe. Everybody got to hold it. I'm not arguing about it. And just keep it cute.

So I think that's that's all. I think that was all she did it for. What do you think about Spicy Jeff threatening to get his knife out last week? I wish Jeff would have said that to me when I was out there. I'd be like, Jeff, you might have, I keep a blade too, Jeff. So we got a machete back at the house. So listen, if we can go. But I like when Jeff gets, I miss the Jeff from, you know, back in the day when he would just say anything.

And like, I do miss that Jeff. So I was reminiscing about anything. And I do miss that, Jeff. So I was reminiscing about that, but I was like, if Jeff would have said that to me, Jeff, listen, we got knives too. Wow. Yeah. Spicy Jeff is here and is ready to go. I think that you all really helped get it out.

I know he took the knife out in Survivor 45, but I think that 46 really helped seal Spicy Jeff being back. I think so. I think we pushed Jeff to his spicy limit. And I think that he, I think he's comfortable in his skin now. You know, very Beyonce about the situation.

He's very cozy. I think so. Okay. Ken asks, Tevin, are you a Whitney Houston fan? I see you have her first album in the background yeah ken where have you been ken you must not know me that well at all because if you ever ask anybody else on earth if they wouldn't use his biggest fan they're lying it's me you've met him congratulations i have every single one in whitney houston's albums it's all over there. I have a shrine. I have all her CDs.

I talked to the, I went to go see her grave in New Jersey. Oh, wow. And when I went, it took me like nine hours to get there. And I finally got there. The security guard was like, you can't see her grave. And I was like, listen, I'm her biggest fan. I got to see it. They were like, you have to have family permission because no one can see her grave because the family stopped it.

You have to have family permission. I was like, type, type, type, type, type. And now I have family permission to go see Whitney Houston's grave when I want to, given to me by the owner of her estate, Pat Houston. So when I say I'm Whitney Houston's biggest fan, I'm in there. Okay. That security guard tried to keep me

from seeing Whitney Houston's grave. I'm like, ma'am. The bodyguard. You don't know me at all. The bodyguard tried to keep me from seeing Whitney Houston's grave. I'm like, ma'am. The bodyguard. You don't know me at all. The bodyguard tried to keep me out. She was like, you need, and she said it so nastily, like I would never, ever be able to. She was like, you have to have family permission. I said, hold one moment.

Yeah. Type, type, type, type, type. And now we good. Okay. Now, Tevin, how did you get in with the Houston family estate? Well, that was because when that security guard told me, you will not be saying Whitney Houston grave today or ever, I said, okay. I got on my phone. I went on Instagram. I found Pat Houston. I sent her a long message detailing my entire trajectory with Whitney Houston, how she started

me as an actor, how my first song I ever sang in church was Whitney Houston, how she started me as an actor, how my first song I ever sang in church was Whitney Houston, how I could go on YouTube, pull up any video, any, you can go on YouTube, pull up any live video of Whitney Houston singing anywhere, play three seconds of it and stop it. I'll tell you where she is, what year it is, what color dress she got on, the rendition of the song, everything in those three seconds. So I listed all that to her. She responded to me and we've been kind of corresponding ever since. So I took a risk and it worked out for me like Rome. And that's how you do it on Survivor. That part right there.

So yes, this is Whitney Houston. And yes, I am her biggest fan. And yes, I am a fan. So if you don't know anything else about me, yes, me and Whitney go back like Slim and Shat. Okay. Steph says, if Tevin was on this season, which of the three tribes would you want to be on?

That is a great question. That is a good one. Wow. I think I'd probably want to be... I don't want to be a Roan. Wow. I think I'd probably want to be... I don't want to be a Ro. I can't... I'm just not good with... No.

I think I would probably want to be with... She's my winner pick, so of course I'm going to say this. Tiana. What tribe is that? Tuku. Tuku. I think I'd want to be with Tuku. I just think that I could get in with Tuku well.

Could you be quiet while Sue is sleeping? Listen, me and Sue, I get along with older people. So me and Sue would have taken a good little nap together. I wouldn't have made no noise. I've been like, Sue, listen, whatever you want me to sing you a lullaby, Sue, I'll make sure you sleep well. I would make sure that Sue got all the rest she needed. I might want have tried to get a Tempur-Pedic built for her just because I'm that nice. She, I think, was fine on the beach.

She just needed people to stop talking. But you know what I would have done in that moment? I would have, but she was trying to use it to put a target on him. I would have just got up and moved to another spot if I really needed to sleep. This is a whole beach out here. Get on up and go. That's what I would have did because I'm not arguing out here i'm just not gonna do it okay and then tevin last week we saw rachel trying to steal the rice put it in her pocket do you feel like that rachel should have been able to take the rice home yeah yes at no point was there any speaking out loud of if you take you are not allowed to take rice from this challenge had jeff said you can't take rice i would have been like okay you broke the rules rachel you

tried to be slick you got caught but because jeff didn't say you can't take the rice from the bag i feel like she should have been able to take that rice and just go back to camp and i would have loved to see how that would have played out for her game and her tribe when she got back home would she have kept it for herself would she have used it for them would she have you know how would that have played into the game but now we'll never know because spicy jeff was like hey rachel did you put some rice in your back pocket yeah back i mean it was a like a handful of rice i mean what is that gonna be like two bites for everybody i don't know rice Rice swells up. You might could have gotten, you might could have

stretched it out. Rice does swell. What I thought was interesting about this episode also, Rob, is that they showed the huddle and their strategy talk. I don't recall the last time that they've shown actual strategy talk that in-depth in a huddle. They didn't show it for us, certainly.

Well, that's why I really thought that something was going to come out of it. It really didn't amount to anything that, you know, we saw, we really just saw some of the conflict with Rome. And I think they really did a good job of like painting, like how difficult of a situation it was for the people in this tribe to navigate Rome.

And, you know, what do you do when the person you want to vote out happens to have all the advantages? We haven't really seen that situation in any of these new era seasons where the, the person who's the target makes it known they have all the advantages. Yeah. And, and, and the other thing with in the pre-merge. In the pre-merge at that. And so that's even more that Rome has to navigate as he gets closer to the merge. But the other thing is the pot calling the kettle black of him talking about how egotistical and cocky and arrogant and showing that excitement to the ally of the person gone home. And you, sir, are becoming— have already been, but certainly becoming the thing

that you're talking about. So I wouldn't blink twice because you might be the next one. You know, they say, Tevin, and I'm no, you know, psychologist, but sometimes like that, the things that we don't like about other people happen to be the things that maybe we don't like about ourselves. For Rome to have such an issue with TK being egotistical, that was a little bit of a projection. Rob, you're

not a preacher, are you? Because that was a word. That was a word. You might be a preacher. That's it. Because he surely called TK all the things that he literally is exhibiting right now. So we'll see how that works out for him. But I don't know. Yeah.

Okay. Well, Tevin, this was so fun to have you here. I hope we can do this again. Yes. I'm ready. Anytime you want me to come back, I'm always ready to talk about Survivor. And it's so fun to be on this side of the table now and to know how the game works,

not just speculating based on a hunch. Like I've played it and I know what it takes. And so I come with a different set of experience and understanding of the game. So this is so much fun to talk about now. Yes. And the word on the street is that I'm going to see you in person in a

couple of weeks. You sure will. I certainly will be for all the fans out there. I certainly will be in New York. Um, it's no, no need to be a rumor any longer. I will be in New York at the Robbins podcast event, sharp dress to the nine. Oh, okay. Wait, do you have an outfit picked out already? Or are you going to be coming as, uh, Kamala? Listen, Kamala goes wherever, everywhere I go, just in case,

because you never know when you might need to be presidential, but, uh, my outfit is certainly already picked out. Okay. All right. Well, uh, if you want to be there up in the building with us,

uh, we'll have a live show two weeks from tonight. Some tickets are left, robinswebsite.com slash NYC47 for that, if you want to be there. That's going to be two weeks from tonight coming up on the night of October 16th. And then we also have Tuesday night,

a very special patron event meetup coming up on the night before on the 15th. So check that out. More details to come on Patreon. All right. Over on our We Know Survivor podcast feed, of course, tomorrow we'll have our exit interview with Asia, followed by my conversation

with Stephen Fishback. That's going to be at 3 p.m., plus everything else in our Survivor podcast feed, including Tevin, that this fall, it's been the 10-year anniversary of Survivor San Juan del Sur. In fact, just yesterday was the 10-year anniversary of the episode two of Survivor San Juan del Sur. The first ever Survivor live show in person, Steven and I. And that happened to be 10 years ago on Tuesday. Josh Wiggler and I have been going back and doing a little bit of a 10 years later rewatch of Survivor San Juan del Sur. So

that's been a lot of fun. Wow, that's crazy. Time does fly when you're having fun. Yeah. Remind me, Tim, what's your Survivor backstory? Were you watching in the real time, or were you a COVID baby? No, I'm definitely not a COVID baby. I've been watching with my Aunt Gogo, who got me into the show when I was very, very young. And I've been watching ever since then. I don't know what my first season was. I can't even remember, but I've certainly watched all of them, and I've been doing it for years.

And in fact, her and I sit in the same spots. I'm not there tonight, but we sit in the same spots. We sat in since circa 2000, blah, blah, blah, and watched the show. I applied in that spot. I did everything in that spot. So I've been here for a while. Okay. You and Aunt Go-Go. Aunt Go-Go. That's her. She got me on it. I did not know what it was. And I would always tell my theater teacher, too, I said, listen, I know we got rehearsal tonight, but Wednesday is my Survivor Night. So we got rehearsal till 10. I'm going to be gone at 745 because I need to be home to watch Survivor at 8. So they all know. They knew from an early age, I got something to do. Me and Jeff Probst got a date tonight.

Yeah. Now, Tevin, have you checked out The Summit? No, but I have heard about it, and the people are tearing it up. They are saying it is wonderful, it is good, and I can't wait to see it. Yeah, they re-aired The Summit premiere. They had a sneak peek on Sunday night,

and then they re-aired the same episode tonight. So if you happen to catch it Wednesday night, I did a little review slash episode one recap with Taron Armstrong and Chappelle. Is the summit any good? We kind of thought it was better than we expected. I think has been the consensus and Taryn and Chappelle are going to keep going with recaps all season long. So find out what we had to say about it. And can you do an impression of the host of the summit? You know, let me,

let me hear what, let me hear what it sounds like. And then I will definitely get back. Yeah. I do anybody. Yeah. Okay. He said that Taryn does a pretty good one.

He's like, welcome to the summit. Oh, if it's deep and low like that, if it's 80s, oh, I could do that. Yeah, that's easy. Okay. Now that's how you do it on the summit. Oh, God. Love is blind.

Hey, look, if you miss Asia, good news. I know where you can find her. Check out coverage of Love is Blind in our Perfect Match podcast feed. Asia and Mary are talking about a new season of Love is Blind, season seven. Do you watch the Love is Blind? I have seen maybe a total of a third of an episode. Okay, that's exciting. Jason Reid, too, on Love is Blind coverage for Season Several.

See, these Jelinski references, he will never, Jelinski will never die. He'll never die. Every time somebody says several, I think about him. He's done it. He's really done it. He'll never die. Every time somebody says several, I think about him. He has, he's done it. He's, he's really done it. He really did it. Yeah. Unbelievable.

Okay. And then also, of course, get involved with everything else we have going on over here at Robbins Podcast. On Patreon, be part of our patron survivor Q and a, be with us for our patron meetup as well for the live show in new york that's at rob's website.com slash patron tevin okay we know check out tevin on

cameo kevin's uh tevin's gonna make a big deal about everything going on on cameo uh birthdays impressions any sort of other celebrations will you roast people like you it. The Comma or Tevin. And you can find all that in my link screen, which is in my bio, over all my books. Tevin.M.Davis again. Tevin.M.Davis. It's all there. It's all there. Well, Tevin, thank you so much. This was such a delight tonight. I had so much fun and can't wait to do it again. And looking forward to getting to meet you in person soon. Yeah, for the first time, Rob. We're going to have a good time. So bring your best.

I think we will. Your best sharp outfit. Okay. I'll do what I can. I could use some help on. I do not have it picked out yet. Oh, God, Rob. You're so behind.

I'll help you. Okay. I could use the help okay i got i got all right thank you so much kevin thank you so much for listening we appreciate uh hearing what you have to say in the comments too take care everybody have a good one bye