RHAP: We Know Survivor - Survivor 49 B&B Cast Preview

Episode Date: September 21, 2025

This week, Mike and Liana preview the Survivor 49 cast.

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My name is Mike Blumen, after what is felt in equal terms and eternity and and a day. Here we are to talk about another season of Survivor on the horizon less than a week until the two-hour premiere of Survivor 49

is on our screens. And so we've got a little bit of business to do as we usually do on the B&B, but it's business in the front and it is very much party in the back.

And I'm ready to mull it over if you will with my partner and crime on the B&B. And I guess truly in this period of being a 49er, Leanna Boris, before we recorded

you and I virtually put our hands in the middle and did a little like shant to get up I think if you ever want a good representation of what the B&B brings

every season, it's that we started with our virtual hands in a pile in the middle so that we could do a cheer just like the 49ers. So call me from San Francisco because we are ready to dive in.

I don't know, man. I don't want to call you from San Francisco. The other thing Do is Mike and I were like, how do we podcast? How do we do this? How do we do this? Let's let's talk about like where we are mentally. Because again, like we, yeah, this is obviously our second survivor season of the year.

You know, the muscles are quite warm at this point. But I think it's because of behalf of Leanna and myself and maybe a lot of people out there that like it has felt like a very long summer. Of course, Leanna, you have gotten settled into an entire ass new state. You know, I went out for Survivor 50 and then came back. And then our friend Rob Cessorino was on the traders and then Big Brother started. So it's been a lot of events kind of occupying our mutual headspaces right now. But now we get to clear that all out and have a nice assorted space for Survivor 49,

which we get to enjoy in its majesty over the fall. Yeah, absolutely. And I think what all of those things did is it almost just flushed my brain of anything Survivor. So coming into prepping for this podcast and all of the preseason coverage and whatnot was almost just, I went in with a clean slate. I went in with a clean slate. I felt like, oh, what is Survivor? And kind of got to learn about these people and rethink about the game from almost just a brand new and fresh perspective. And I think that that was really, really fun because it allowed me to go in with no preconceived notions, no sort of hanging on from the past of thinking about, oh, but 48 and 47 from sort of our last.

cycle. It really felt like a nice start to what is, I think, a very wackadoe cast, but in one of the best ways possible, like almost the antithesis of 48, I think, in certain ways. And there are a ton of characters that I'm really, really interested in getting to know that I already am fascinated with from just the preseason. Same. Same. It was a great time to be able to again revisit these these interviews. I've received such kind words from people who have checked it out. Of course people should check it out. It's a lot. These are long interviews. A couple

of them especially. But look, you've got nothing but time between now and Wednesday to cram it all in. If not, check out our tribe previews as well. Rob and I try to distill it down a little bit, but you want to hear from the real McCoys themselves and what a group they are. So yeah, Leanna, get into some more

of your thoughts about this group. Are you picking up any like overall trends? You know, is there a particular tone you're getting, because I do agree that I think, even just from like a physicality and kind of lifestyle perspective, 48 and 49 really are two sides of the same point. Yeah. And I think it was Sophie. Are we, how are we calling the Sophies? Is it so, Sophie with like the last name? We're going Sophie B. We're going Sophie I. Sophie I. E. Like, how are we going to do this? From what I, from what I have experienced, uh,

both out on the island and heard through the Gravevine. I'm pretty sure they're just going to call them Sophie and Sophie. Like, because their names are themselves, but I'm fairly sure, at least while they're on separate tribes, phonetically it's pronounced the same. We're going full homonym here on Survivor 49. Okay. All right. Well, I think it was Sophie that said.

Oh, God. It's not helpful at all. Okay, Sophie. Wait, no, what about Sophie and Sophie? Sophie. Okay, wait, is Sophie, Sophie with an eye? Yes, because I think it looks more like extravagant, right? It looks a little more unusual.

So I think we have Sophie and we have Sophie. Okay, I like the idea also that Sophie has to be said with this sort of like physical hand motion and body, bozofi. Accent to egg goo. So yeah, it's just for physically adding that on there. Okay, so it's not Sophie, but Sophie. No, Sophie. Sophie with an S who was the alternate for 48

I think she really summed it up the best which is this just feels like a completely different season of the people that I was out with as she was the alternate for 48 and I think that she absolutely hit the nail on the head. I observed it listening to all the interviews I think obviously she called it out being there and interacting with people

even as little as they do in the preseason and I think that a lot of that has to maybe a little bit more of this season. well yeah oh my god yeah that is another like crazy thing in and of itself which also makes this season just feel so much more like a fever dream right because in your head and i'm gonna i said this on the puy and leona lounge i'm gonna say it again here because i really just want to be honest about like the reality of the situation that 50 is coming okay 50's coming we all know their cast got announced first right like it's just the reality of the universe we live in which makes this

season feel like a whatever happens happens like it feels like the the the the whatever fucks season kind of you know who cares i don't know it's just like random weirdo group of people so i i kind of love that energy because it feels like nothing can go wrong because whatever happens i'm here for it like i'm down you know yeah i i agree that i think there is this sort of like again as are fearlessly you to like say lowered expectations are the key to happiness and that is not to of a moment, anything that the 49 cast is bringing from what Jeff has talked about with me and other outlets. Like it does seem like a very strong season, which will hopefully get us hype for 50. But worse comes to worse.

If people are not into this group, then it's like, hey, go, season coming up in the spring. But I am excited to relish this group because, yeah, it's always interesting, in my opinion, to be able to see the parts and, you know, what the sum is at the end of the day. Well, from a cast chemistry perspective and from a general seasonal perspective, 48 is a great example where, again, I think the individual pieces of the cast were all fantastic. And whether it was, you know, the challenges, the try makeups, or just the general run of the season, it didn't necessarily work, at least not as strongly as the three seasons that came before it. So for lack of a better term, like a well-designed journey, Leon, it's always a roll of the dice whenever you assemble a survivor cast.

And I think certainly with this group, you know, especially looking at each of these three tribes, Rob and I tried to ascertain who would be working with whom. But again, some of these personalities are so disparate that, you know, I'll be intrigued to see which tribes sort of have the same mentality, which with which ones that don't. Like each tribe has a quote unquote older person on it. You know, you have Annie, you have Nate, you have Matt. And granted, they are not all of the same ilk whatsoever. But that's a great sort of control example. right? Of like, how do each of these tribes treat a quote unquote older person? Do they immediately ostracize them? Do they become sort of like the try and true member of the tribe, you know, part of the majority alliance? It's going to be a very interesting experiment considering the fact that also, as you mentioned, rogue elements got thrown in at the last second in,

hey, you think you know what the cast is. Oh, guess what? Twelve hours before you're about to go play Survivor, here are two quote unquote new people to play alongside you. Yeah, and I think you hit on a number of different things that I've been thinking about. One is how, what does the sum of the parts look like for this group? And this is why I say for me, it's like the antithesis of 48 because I feel like 48, I was like, I think I know where these groups are going to form. It was and this also what Jeff was saying in the preseason about pairs, so I'm looking for pairs, right?

Like you're kind of constructing how this unit is going to move forward throughout Survivor. And for this season, they are such distinct. personalities that I can understand them almost individually, but I don't know how they're going to work together. And part of that also is capped with another reason why they're different than 48. To me, only two people, I believe, really mentioned loyalty when they were talking about either what they value, what they're going to

vote for, what they're looking for. And some people alluded to things that are similar to that. But that also feels like it's going to be more bonkers and chaotic potentially than 48 was. Yeah. So, I mean, the other thing as well is I'm very intrigued to see what 49's mentality looking back on 48 is coming in like are they on disaster tribe watch specifically

considering that I mentioned this before but just to you know dress the scene perhaps the cast of Survivor 49 had seen about half of Survivor 48 before playing the last episode they watched was the Cedric and Say double boot where really again Vula was pretty much finished off with the exception

of Mary and so I do wonder you know especially early on if some of these people or some of these tribes get off to a bad start and they're like, oh, we don't want to be like Vula, okay, this means we have to like start making moves or oh, we're already going to be a Vula. So like, let's just start cutting people off at the knees.

Doesn't matter strength or not. You know, how much will that inform the way that they approach things? I think to your point, aesthetically, I would say. Obviously, this is a very different cast from 48. I think one large exception, quite literally, is Jake who was talked about a lot for that. reason. But outside of that, again, it's a little bit more of a cast that, while you might not find necessarily in your day to day, I think from a physical perspective, definitely doesn't size up to the behemoths that existed in Survivor 48. And with that, maybe does come this idea of, okay, everyone sort of has this prevailing theme of, yeah, being loyal to a certain extent. Like, let's have fun. Let's play Survivor. Maybe there is a philosophy to your earlier point of like, hey, we don't know if we're going to be on 50. Great. the two of them ended up being, but like, I want to make the most of my time right now.

I want to make sure that, you know, people don't look over our season when it comes to Survivor 50, so let's make the best product possible. There's just a lot of unknown out there when it comes to this season in particular that has me, you know, coming in obviously a little wary, especially considering that again, I think that the end stretch of Survivor 48, some would say was maybe one of the weakest stretches of episodes in, uh, you know, the new era of Survivor. So there's a little bit of like nowhere to go but up. There's also a little bit of like, all right, let's let's not try to put the cart before the horse too much because we can see a season turn around. Uh, and that

goes in both directions. Well, and I think, you know, we're talking about the actual people who are playing the game, but also not to like get too meta on this, but you also have production as well, right? So if I'm putting myself in the mindset of production, right, you would filmed 47 and 48. Okay, you've got this off season. And you're thinking about, of course, 50. And we see the consequences of if you look back at Winners at War with what happened with the season previous of like things they were testing out, things they wanted to try to implement for winners of war. Yeah. So I'm curious to see how those kinds of things might play into this season. Does, you know, does production consider this to be, again, a little bit of a playing ground, a little bit

of a like, let's fuck around and find out kind of season. Because it's like, well, we just want to see how this is going to work because we're thinking about using it for 50. And we want to play test it here before we go on and use it in, you know, in an iconic season that will be 50. So I'm also curious to see how that's going to play into it. If they do that at all, who knows? They might not, right? But there's always going to be a reaction from both the players and production to the seasons that have occurred previously. I just don't know how that's necessarily going to manifest in this season particular.

Well, let's try to hone in on some specific thoughts about these people, Leon, and a tried and true tradition here on the beach. and B as we approach 15 seasons of doing this. I think maybe it's not going to be next season or this season 15 seasons of us doing this. Yeah, because here's Heelis Hustlers was our first. Yeah, so as I look at the picture of Dorian Gray in the corner to make sure my hair doesn't turn gray, let's talk about

our survivor superlatives, where Leon and I have sort of commiserated on a list of superlatives about this cast. We each had our own pick for said superlative, and this will be our ability, especially from Leanna's perspective, because Lord knows I've talked enough about these people to hear us mainly from Leanna about her thoughts on the cast specifically through these

buckets. So let's start Leanna with I would say a trademark staple of new era editing though again we've weighed a bit back on it over the past few seasons most likely to get a personal segment. Everyone has a why

for being out there in the game. Who's your why? Liana and why? Well, this was actually really tough. You should see my list. I've got pretty much half the cast here of options that I could pick. I just felt like everybody's got some like interesting thing about them, which is why they're out there playing, right?

I can easily see it's Jeremiah who said he was going to climb Everest, right? Like I can see that being his thing. I can see Jake obviously getting one. For me, the person who I thought was the most likely to get, some kind of segment like this was actually Matt. And I picked Matt because I think that his career change is very interesting. And I think having him go through and explain that and then also, oh, how does this apply to how you're going to play Survivor?

Like that's sort of a perfect opening segment. So I'm, I think he is my pick for personal segment. Do you have any thoughts about him in general, story included? Oh my gosh. Yeah, he's super fascinating. And we'll talk a little bit about him. not to get too far out of ourselves, but for in Casual's corner, because Casuals also had some opinions about this man.

But he was a type of person that as, you know, you kind of, you take one look at him, right? And everybody makes these snap judgments. You even talk about it with the cast themselves as they're making snap judgments in Ponderosa. And so for me, you see him. You got a certain perspective on him. But as he talked more and more, I was like, man, I really, really like this guy.

Like, he just grew on me. And I think it was his own quote where, he said he's just he just wants to play off as like the funny old fat guy and i think that that's going to be a perfect place for him the flfg exactly that's going to be his acronym we love it again my my only concern right is if you get those snap judgments and if this tribe goes early you could see him potentially falling here early in premerge maybe literally that doesn't yeah well if that doesn't happen. I think that he will be able to create good bonds. There was actually a YouTube comment from your interview with him that really stuck with me. And it was, why is this Randy Bailey in a

happy font? I'm obsessed. Oh my God. I love that assessment. Yeah. I was like, actually, that's kind of the perfect description of Matt. I'm here for it. Yeah. I honestly went with like a bit of a different descriptor, but I think in very much the same tone where he's sort of like Dan Foley's like gallant to his goofess, you know? Yeah, yeah, exactly. The rainbow fun. So I went with the low hanging fruit that subsequently gets shot like a hockey puck because I did go with Jake.

He obviously has these two wild stories of obviously him wanting to be on this current season specifically because his dad is glowing blind from glaucoma. And so he wanted this to sort of be the last survivor season that his dad would see, that he would be on it, counterbalance. And Leona, this is a real, would you rather, right? Big Jeff style, would you rather miss the birth of your first child or lose out on the chance to win a million dollars and have your dad go blind?

Yep, yep, yep, yep, nope. I think that that, and not for me, that was the first person that popped into my head. I was trying to try to find anybody but Jake because I think from multiple perspectives, the dad, the wife, the baby, the Australia you know

because people the casuals love Survivor Australia to gotta tie that the Australia the Australia the Canada of it all the corrections officer

the special Olympics volunteering like of course this man is going to get so much screen time like I just don't see a universe

where he's not a main character I also think because he's one of the strongest men he's gonna be okay throughout the merge or to merge at least and then you know

then he becomes a threat and I think that you would said this on the preview podcast with Rob, where you're talking about the tribe dynamics, who can look at him and have him sit at the end? Right? Like, you just can't. So I love that sort of early merge,

mid-merge spot for him. Of course, I would love for him to go all the way, but realistically looking at the makeup. And he even said, right out, he's not really going to hide his story in any way. So if he's upfront about all of that,

I mean, you just have to look at him as a jury threat. Yeah, but it's going to be an editor's, you know, meal to make out of it because again if he's open with his contestants you better believe he's going to be even more open

in these confessionals and then you just make I would not be surprised if honestly they did a soft relaunch of the loved ones visit just for Jake you know or do like or bring back like the phone call home or even like hey get on a Zoom here's your wife here's your day old baby

yeah definitely a possibility I mean yeah he just screams edit fodder like in the best way possible everybody's talking about this guy both all of us the contestants the editors the producers

I'm sure just like this is casting gold in terms of a narrative and that personal segment so I think that he's a perfect fit for this category well let's go over to the other side of the category here most likely to get a purple edit I ended up

going with one of our last minute additions to this cast went with MC. I think that MC is someone that a lot of people really perceive positively just based on the vibe that she's giving off. I do think as I mentioned in the tribe preview, her athleticism and, you know, soft sales skills, I think are going to help her be in a really good position in the tribe. But I feel like, A, she's going to be working alongside people that maybe are bigger personalities

that would therefore take up kind of the airtime to explain the alliance over her. And I think her personality is also just so, like, down to earth that I don't know how much people will go to her, right? Like she seems like one of those people who is in such a good position that they don't need to necessarily go to her for a lot.

Like she's not ruling the roost, but she's not necessarily brushing up against the side of the chicken coop either. And so they decide, we could skip over this hen for now. Is that a reference to something? I mean, I didn't roost at a chicken coop. Am I trying to like draw?

Is she not like a chicken person? If that's been abundantly clear to anybody over the past decade plus. Well, I think MC is going to be the goat, okay? A real hog in the peg, pin peg, pen, pig pen, if you know what I mean. We got there. You got to go to more county fairs, Leon. Hey, I went to the state fair and I got to pet a bunch of goats. Okay, so.

There we go. Huh. No, look, I, I don't, I don't necessarily. disagree with your assessment of MC because I could absolutely see her sort of being a part of every alliance and then there's always going to be someone else who's going to be communicating the perspective. That being said, because I think she's going to be in the center of a lot of alliances, I can also see her getting a lot of confessionals explaining how she's the pivot person, right? Like she's the one who's making the decision. The glue girl. Exactly. Like she's the one who's kind of balancing all of these different groups because so many people were just naturally. drawn to her. So for me, I mean, I can actually see her being almost one of the main characters of the season for that reason. That's what MC stands for. Exactly. MC main character. Okay. And I think MCU, right? Also, big theme of the season. MCMCU, it's MC's universe. Okay. That's what we're living in. I'm just really obsessed with her in general too. I, she, um, she was somebody who I can see why people were drawn to her energy. I just thought her interview with

you, I just felt like comforted. I think that combined with the fact that she was a former D1 athlete, she's going to be athletic, so she's going to be able to help in the challenges. I think there's a lot going for her. And I'm just very curious to see where she's going to go. Is she going to be the purple? Is she going to be the main character? I don't know. With Amex Platinum, access to exclusive Amex pre-sale tickets can score you a spot trackside. So being a fan for life turns into the trip of a lifetime. That's the powerful backing of Amex. Pre-sale tickets for future events subject to availability and varied by race.

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Learn more at scotiabank.com slash banking packages. Conditions apply. Scotiabek, you're richer than you think. All right, well, who is your pick for the purple? Oh, yes. For the purple for me. Okay, I don't want it to be true. But as I mentioned with Sophie, yes, Sophie, she seems like the most normal out of everybody. In the whole cast.

In the whole cast, I mean, maybe there's some other people who could potentially slot in there. I think I had sage is another option that I think could potentially be there. Just someone who's a little bit not even low energy, because I would say that no one in this cast is low energy, but just maybe a little bit lower, right?

Like, especially with all of those sort of bigger personalities. When I look back at her interview, you know, she even talks about, like, I think that she's really strategic. I think she's really smart. She was, had the benefit of being out there for 48 as the preseason, you know, alternate. And she clocked Kyle and Camilla and being

like, oh, yeah, they weren't doing much in the preseason. Like, I'm going to modulate my strategy based on that. Like, I love her picking all of those things up. I'm just nervous that if she is not a central part of the storyline, I can see the editors potentially passing over her in favor of someone else. Until her closest ally leaves and then she becomes the alternate and steps up and gets put into that MC spot. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Let's move on to our next category here. most likely to flip on their number one ally. Liana, who you got? This was so tough. I have a bunch of people with question marks under my list because I just felt like I didn't get ultimate betrayer from really anybody. So the person I'm going to pick is just purely based on vibes

and I feel like she would appreciate this as well. It is our Shannon of the season. And I just feel like the moon is going to tell her to flip on her closest ally, and she's going to be like, yes, that's what needs to happen. We're going to do this. She was a fascinating interview. She was the person who Mike would ask, like, if you did not listen to her interview, Mike would ask a question and then she would just talk about Lord knows what for the longest

period of time. And I was like, I don't think she actually answered the question. It's that meme of the the text of how are you and then it's just like the huge text bubble. Like that is kind of how she communicates. That's her vibe. Yes, exactly. She just talks and talks and talks. I'm like, girl, I'm going to need you to listen.

I'm going to need you to shoot like shoot the mouth. Let's listen with our ears and see what we can pick up from the other people that you're interacting with. Now, that being said, she was coached by the one, the only Boston. Rob. So, you know, she's got that going for her. I just can't imagine. Like, imagine if you hired somebody, Leon, you recently hired people at your job. Imagine if you hired an employee. And then like two months later, they're like, yeah, sorry, I'm going on a reality show. Bye. Yeah. I'm sorry. What? No, you're not. Yeah. But then,

but then also, imagine this person went on to be a legend. Like, would you as a workplace say, like, oh, yes, for that brief three week period, we did hire one of the most famous reality TV contestants of all time you know maybe it's worth it right to like have that connection i think i should let all my employees if they want to go on reality tv i go you know what go because maybe you're the next boston rob and i can have some kind of claim to fame uh if you know claim to fame was oh that should be a new claim to fame instead of being related to the celebrity you hired them at one point they were your employee or employer at one point in time yeah it's like those laundromats that have like the photos of the celebrities hung up and then it's like a version of that you know yeah at the

restaurant or whatever. Yeah, that yeah, that'll go well. That'll be the spinoff that we all wanted. So I ended up going with someone that Shannon is with on Oolie. I went with Savannah. Just because I

do think that as you mentioned, there was a lot of talk from people about like, yeah, I'll join up with those and maybe I'll have trouble cutting them to a certain extent, but like I got to do what I got to do to win. Savannah was someone who I think came through with like the most lawfully evil

perspective, right? Where she talked in her CBS video about like, I'm going to sow seeds of chaos. The whole thing that got her into the show was Johnny Fair plays dead grandma lie. She loves Russell Hans. Like, she's not one of these people that sort of like what, you know, Rome did in my interview before the season

of being like, okay, I think the world needs more villains and I'm here to provide that villain that survivor in new era so sorely needs. But I think it could just be something that comes natural to her. And that also includes like, no matter the personal bonds that she is assumingly going to make with people just based on her background as a reporter,

she has no qualms about turning that around and being able to benefit from it and truly make a headline out of that. Yeah. So, and I think she's going to have a plethora of allies to cut as well, which goes back to what you said, her experience, having to interact and get people to open up. Through her experience being a reporter, I think is going to be absolutely crucial

and super beneficial for her out here. and she does you know she talks about her strength is that she's a great listener and she's excelled at that professionally and I'm sure she's going to bring that to the game and people just want to talk about themselves right so if she's there to just hear and be a sounding board for all of the people on the season then I think that's going to earn her a lot of allies and therefore allies that she can turn on and she will have to right because if she has a lot of allies well you can only get so far, you know, so she's going to have to have to turn on some of

those people. And it was interesting though, too, because I think she mentioned Dee as one of the winners that she associates with who, you know, did kind, I mean, Dee did betray right? Awesome. So Dee did. And so while I think

Dee does have this sort of like loyalty in terms of that group, there's still cutting and betraying that goes on within within it. So if If Savannah's going to do the same thing, I can see her going down a similar path. Well, let's go from turning on your allies to turning yourself into a brand postseason. Of course, the era that we existed in reality TV, there's always going to be somebody who is the most likely to start a podcast or a merch line or just go whole hog, pig pen, as you like to say, about their cameos. So this is where I slotted Shannon in.

Now, maybe it's a little bit of cheating because she does technically already have a podcast, but I can just see it now. Imagine the coexist bumper sticker, but it's C-O-E-X-A-I-S-T, because we know how much she utilized AI in the preseason to speak on behalf of a bunch of fates to help inform her time in the game. Mm-hmm. Yes. And, and I could see, I mean, maybe she's the first podcaster to have a

conversation with AI, Jesus, you know what I mean? Or all of her agentic AI, you know, she's out there with her agents, having chit chats, you know, giving advice on how to play Survivor. That's the angle for her podcast. Lord knows, she loves to talk. So that's not going to be a problem filling airtime. That's the thing. Like, I don't know if she even needs a co-host. This could be one of these like, Terran Solo updates where she could just like just talk for 40 minutes a day. And I think people would absolutely eat it up. Well, but that's what I'm saying. It's that. And then she has the AI if she needs to have a conversation with somebody like she doesn't need another human okay she's like got it taken care of that's on lock who's your choice yeah so i would say for me

this um i had two well okay the first part up to my head was annie i can absolutely like just such a character such an entertaining human being someone who's going to get out there can talk about you know what it's like to be a ceo what it's like to be a musician, like bridge all of these sort of different gaps. She just has energy for days, whether or not it is a podcast or it's a cameo. I can see her doing both. So that was the first person. But I do want to give an honorable mention to the Jawan Nate crossover MCU podcast where it's like survivor meets superheroes in a way.

Like there's some literary review thing there that they can do. It's like, you know, oh, we can draw analogies and corollaries between this specific comic book character and like these survivor players. And I really think that that's a crossover market that could be a big hit. So you're welcome, boys. I mean, what I would say is that a big brother, I sort of corner the market on superheroes specifics around their season. Listen, could Joanne and Nate make their own version of like survivor comics? You know, you don't even need to compare to, okay, this person's store, this person's Captain America. come up with your own superhero personas for some of the Survivor Greats.

That's what I'm saying. There's so much here that they could do in terms of their own Big Brother comics, but it's the Survivor Comics, right? And they're creating these superhero characters for all of the contestants on every season. I just think that there is so much for them to do, especially given how expert they both are in the subject matter, seems like the perfect idea. Do you think they have as strong of an inherent connection as I was sort of speculating in the tribe preview with Rob?

Do you think that this will become an immediate type bond between the two? I feel like they're either going to immediately click or I have just made up in my head that they are going to immediately click. Like I just on paper, I'm looking at the two of them and I'm like, they're going to be best friends. But then in reality, I'm like, wait, are they actually going to be best friends? Because while Nate clearly, you know, worked in the MCU, loves movies and all of that, like, is he going to be annoyed by Joanne? Like, is Joanne going to be out there and be like, this reminds me of Thor. Yeah, Joanne is kind of does stand a chance of bringing Nate's work home, you know? Like, yes.

This is, this reminds me of the airport hangar scene in Captain America Civil War. And he's like, yes, I was there. I remember it fondly. Can we move on, please? Exactly. I think it's going to be like, bro, chill. like that's enough yeah july has followed chris barley show

that connection might break sooner rather than later or like I'm just imagining joan being obsessed with Nate and just following him around and then Nate's going to be so sick of him and be like oh my god this annoying little kid like won't leave me like that's going to be the energy the younger brother that like won't let him be Nate can't strategize with anybody else

because juan just will not leave him alone like this is the narrative that I'm starting to craft in my head I have no idea if that's actually going to play out or not, but just based on the little snippets that I know for both of them, that's what I anticipate happening. All right, Leanna, we know that the new era

is festooned with advantages, idols, opportunities to lose your vote. Who in this cast is most likely to have an advantage screw them over in whatever terms that might mean for you? My go-to for this question has always been, who do I love the most? Because then when they get

screwed over by an advantage, at least I feel justified that let's like, okay, but I predicted it in the superlatives. So for me, this is where I'm slotting in my main character. Let's go MC. She's, again, my favorite. So that was why I had her initially pegged as, yeah, she's going to get screwed over because we can't have nice things. So there was nothing in particular about her that I think she will be susceptible to that. But just to cover my bases, she was who I put. I will give an honorable mention to Jeremiah. I think he was one of the people that was like, I want to be very loyalty-based. I'm willing to vote out the strong people in order to keep my people here. And I'm just curious if that could

ultimately screw him over if he misses the signs of, oh, there's an advantage or something from even a minority group or even within his own alliance that could ultimately get him out of the game and get him screwed over by an advantage. So this is where I slaughtered in Matt, just because when I asked Matt, are you going to incorporate these into your game? He literally responded by saying what kind of question is that he definitely seems like somebody that is just going to say, to your

point about maybe the entire philosophy of the season and to quote the great Alec Marlino effort and just sort of go off into the jungle and start looking for stuff. So it could be something where it's not even an advantage that screws him over. It's like him hunting for an advantage that screws him over or he's like, yeah,

I'll go on the journey. Why not? I'll risk my vote. And then he loses his vote and then has no power in the game. I'll throw another name out there just to get your thoughts on this person Leana. I also put Alex down and it's specifically from the perspective of Alex loves gossip. He talked

about it many times. Give him a margarita and you can hear all the state secrets, perhaps quite literally. And so I could see a world where like someone tells Alex that they have an idol he spreads that information around to everybody and like then he gets idled out of the game or something, you know?

The gossip comes back to bite him in the butt. Yes, I think that that's definitely a possibility. He was someone who I was really interested in as a character. I mean, everybody in the cast I think was interesting, but I think for him, I'm curious to see how the, like being involved in the politics world as, what's his official title? He's like a political communications director. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So as the communications director, right, him interacting and talking with people and spinning narratives, like, that's what he does all day. So how is that going to factor into, you know, him out here with a group of people? How is he going to be like shaping the narrative? Is that something he's going to be thinking about? Are people

going to perceive him as like too inauthentic? Because they're just like, oh, this guy's always got an angle. He's always got a perspective that he's trying to push. He seems very genuine to me in the interview. So I don't think that that will necessarily be a problem. But that gossiping side of him might get him into trouble. Someone who I would love to be friends with and gossip with, but could bite him in the butt out on the island. All right. We threw in a couple as we always do

superlatives in reference to the last season. This has to be one of the most open yet specific categories I've ever created, Leon, in history of doing this. In honor of the one, the only David Kinney, most likely to have an

obsession with milk. Who you got? Who you squeezing. I mean, you can't, the initial gut reaction, it's Jake. Come on, right? Like, between a new baby, milk, being a buff dude, milk, right? Canadian? Milk in a bag.

Canadian dairy farmers, it's a big deal, right? So I just feel like there's so many through lines for him when it comes to milk. But I did have a secondary thought. And that is... Secondary. Oh, yes. Come on season 49. Let's get second gendary.

Okay. It is the one, the only. Mr. Outer Space himself, Stephen, and let me tell you why. This man got obsessed with space when he was out camping and what did he see? The Milky Way. What a... Need I say more?

I love you, Leanna. I'm so happy we're podcasting again. I... The way you're able to piece these side. synapses together like nobody else in the business. He is obsessed with the milk dot dot dot eway. Yes, exactly. This is why I also fall prey to conspiracy theories.

But it doesn't matter because Stephen and milk, it just goes together. I need to hear your reaction to Stephen. Okay. So, first of all, two things about members of this cast. One, Savannah, born in Walnut Creek. Where was Leanna born? Walnut Creek. Oh, Stephen grew up in Littleton, Colorado.

Where did Liana grow up? Technically Centennial, which is the town of Littleton, Colorado. Okay, so we grew up within probably, and he's like my same age. So we grew up within maybe like two or three miles of each other. Now, where he went to high school matters to me, which Mike, I did ask Mike, I like texted him. I was like, where did Stephen go to high school? And like, which, by the way, why would you know, somehow it didn't come up in our 35 minute conversation. I don't know how.

I know, right? Mike, come on. Do your journalistic do deal with it. Yeah, sorry. I'm trying to do. I'll have my sidebid just where I'm trying to do a fishing scam on these contests. So I do ask them off camera like, what's your mother's maiden name? What's your first car, first pet? Yeah, good. All of those things.

So that is going to matter how I perceive him. I'm sorry. It just will, which Puyo tried to argue. He was like once you go to college, high school doesn't matter anymore. So he was saying, that I shouldn't care, but like I do still care. He either went to, I'm going to assume Heritage or Littleton. I don't

know. I think I was going to message him on Instagram and then I realized maybe I don't want to know. And so then I had an existential crisis about this. And so I'll Pooya message and I don't think that he has replied. So Steven, if you're listening to this, I think I know what high school you went to. Can you please tell me? Anyway, that

whole thing aside, he's very, very interesting to me because I think on one hand, you can peg him as like, especially if you're looking at this cast, it's like, oh, he's going to be one of the like bigger, stronger dudes who's going to go into like a dude thing. But then you kind of, I like read through his bio and I'm, I'm listening to him talk and I'm like, man, I just, I don't know. Like, I don't know what you're going to do, right? Like he clearly seems to be a really well-rounded individual, but is susceptible to

over-thinking. Much like the planet he obsesses with. Very well-rounded. Exactly. or just like the moon that he wants to land on one day. So I just look at him and I'm like, I don't know. I don't know how you're going to play. I don't know what to make of you.

I wonder how Stephen would have reacted if he was on Lulu. Remember when they were having the conversation about how aliens built the pyramids? Like, he might have quit the game much like two members of that tribe did for that reason alone. Yes. At least I think he would have had Emily there to be. They're crazy.

right like this group is crazy um but no i think um i think he's a project manager so like my only nervousness for him is if this whole like being in charge kind of thing gets in his way um but you know the fact that he you know he talks about the hearing issues that he's had and how he has had to struggle with that um you know that gives him a touch point to potentially discuss with other people about having you know those kinds of experiences um but yeah i just he's such a question mark to me in terms of how he's going to one play the game and also interact with the other people like i just i'm just like i don't i don't know what you're going to do when you get out there apart from the project manager like oh he just gets annoying and people vote him out early but other

than that i'm like i don't know i don't know so i ended up falling through my sort of like own an enigmatic trap here because I didn't want to go for the low hanging fruit once again in the form of Jake so I was like who do I want to pick for most likely

to have an obsession with milk? And I somehow settled on Sage. Like I think it's just because Sage has such and I love it but she has such an offbeat personality that part of me is like she would have a random obsession with milk

you know it's not even from like a fitness based perspective which I think maybe the connotation is more so associated with that because of David. It's just more so like I could imagine she's having a conversation with a client

and she's like, you know what I really like milk? And that just sort of like the openness with which she communicates and, you know, lives her life. I don't know if she should be offended by this. Maybe 2% offended. 2% offended. 2% more of a 1% girl myself, but that's fine. I

think for her, she had probably one of my favorite answers in all of your interviews, which was the reason why, or maybe it's her hot take. I don't remember exactly what question it was. But it was like, she said, you can't play the game with honesty and integrity. Like, you just can't.

And people that go out and say, oh, I'm playing with honesty and integrity, that's a non-honest way to play like to put up the front that you're playing with honesty and integrity because at the end of the day, you cannot play Survivor with honesty and integrity. And I thought that that was a really interesting perspective, especially in direct contrast with 48. And, you know, we've seen this in other seasons as well, right? Where people talk about I'm playing the game with loyalty, I'm playing with honesty, I'm playing with integrity. You know, how does that actually play out on the island, right?

She's saying that it's inauthentic and it's already manipulative if you're sort of taking that approach. And I thought that that was sort of an interesting perspective to have. So next category here, in honor of the one, the only star to me. Leanna, who is most likely to write a rap about their fellow contestants? Could it be a disc track? Could just be observational? Who's spitting bars on the island? For me, the person who I think would write a rap, it's going to be Alex. And let me tell you why. Because I feel like

there's something, and maybe this is just because I've been watching too much Dave Jorgensen recently. But I feel like in the political commentator space that there's room for sort of this like a glib fun energy and I can see Alex absolutely channeling that and writing sort of a like political satirical rap about some of his fellow contestants that was how I interpreted this I like it I mean maybe it's also Alex Hamilton that sort of language yes exactly like we're having a cabinet battle kind of energy with him and take, you know, going after any, in a fun way, right? So I think that that's the energy that he brings. And I can absolutely see that happening. So I maybe fudge this a little bit, even though it was my own category. I did initially put Annie down, uh, just because she is so musically inclined.

They're like, she wouldn't rap, at least I don't think, but I could see her write sort of like, you know, a stevie nix-esque like, hey, you bastard, you betrayed me. So I'm going to write a song about how you made me feel. Uh, I also ended up going with her. reason like Nicole kind of gives me that vibe. Nicole is somebody who actually bonded aloud on the island because she has a love for musical theater.

So like she clearly has a very musical spirit. So I don't know. And for some reason, she's the person as well who has to a point you mentioned earlier, like she was very adamant about if anyone in the final three claims that they play with honesty and loyalty, like I'm not voting for them. So I could see her really have an axe

to grind against certain people, especially those that claim that. Yeah, I could see that as well. I think the what was she described the love child of Shambo and Boston Rob, I believe was what Nicole had named herself. Yeah, I love that.

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Just a few days ago, Survivor launched its first ever influencer experience where eight people, eight internet celebrities were, and Survivor super fans of their own right, were given the ability to go participate in essentially like a speed round of Survivor over 36 hours. They lived on the beach. They made camp. They survived one of the worst storms the show has seen in like a decade. They ran a challenge. They schemes.

They plotted. They found idols. And then they voted out one of their. own. I really recommend people check it out. It's on a YouTube right now, only like 42 minutes. But if we were to do another one of these, who would be most likely to appear on that influencer experience? For me, I kind of read this as maybe a bit of a corollary to like the most likely to start a podcast as to like who would sort of have that pivot into that kind of influencer lifestyle. And honestly, my first choice was Stephen. And maybe

It's because one of the people that my son has really gone into from YouTube is a guy named Mark Robber. I'm not sure if you've heard of him, Leanna. He did a lot of like the porch pirate stuff. He did like he built the obstacle course for squirrels. But he has this very like energetic, accessible way of teaching physics and concepts of like, you know, high brain science to kids in a really easy to reach way. I feel like Stephen has that energy, you know? Like he talked to me obviously about the YouTube comment that. that he has that Ryan Reynolds vibe.

Like, can't you just imagine him, like, having his own channel where he, like, explains the life and death of a star in such a, with his fun golden retriever energy? He just feels like he has that YouTuber persona to him just naturally. Yes. And I can see it in a way that, you know, he, uh, he definitely has more, yeah, more of that YouTuber. Like, I was thinking about Neil deGrasse Tyson.

Like, that was the first person popped in my head when we started sort of talking about this. And I'm like, but Neil DeGrasseye, Tyson has kind of this like very blunt way of speaking that like I you know I think is enjoyable but doesn't necessarily have that kid friendly perspective perhaps so is this like the Neil degrass Tyson for five year olds you know what I mean like is that the energy that Stephen can bring plus again going back to the milk tie in he's you know got milk right you know he's got to do that promotion so kids get strong with their bones with the milk

do they do that I don't think they do that anymore I pressure those cultures went out of preying like 2006. Okay, well, he's going to bring it back. All right. Just imagine, like, what, like, when Mr. Beast do a got milk? I mean, he's doing his own milk stuff, so. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Mm, delicious. Wasn't it, like, gross? That's what I heard about it. I'm fairly sure. But no offense to a couple of the people that were all on site influencer experience. I did not have to hear the best reviews about the milk or a lot of the Mr. Beast family of food products. Products.

Yeah, exactly. I love mold. Um, so, so the thing is, is I had a similar interpretation, right? Because the first person on my head was I was like, well, who's famous? Nate Moore is probably the most famous out of all of them. Yeah, but like he doesn't really have that energy, you know? Exactly. Exactly.

Because when you look at the cast, it is definitely the kind of like a young YouTuber. It is influencers, right? It's not necessarily like popular, famous people or like, you know, fame, you know what I'm saying? Like traditional famous people, I guess versus influencer energy. so for me I was just like off the bat I was like Annie Rizzo Nicole Jake like there was this whole list of people who I could see doing that you know turn to influencer pipe line I guess after the season but who I ended up landing on was Sophie and the reason why is because she has YouTube energy to me like she just screamed this bubbly fun person who maybe talks too much with her hands but I'm also guilty of that so I absolutely love it. Plus, we've got that branding on lock with Sophie. So I just think that there's so much that she can do.

And I would love to see that from her. The other person that I picked, which again, I wouldn't exactly call this like influencer, specifically in the way that we associate. But like Jason obviously has a history in gaming culture. You know, he was a prominent member of the Super Smash Brothers community. He helped organize this big tournament. There's a chance that like if he wants to,

I know he just, you know, pivoted his career into a very respectable law field. They want to pivot back immediately and, like, become a gaming streamer. There's a chance of, like, he could become very popular that he could become an influencer in his own right. He's a gamer. Okay. He doesn't want to tell anybody. He's a gamer boy. He's a gamer boy.

Yeah, I look, I could see that man on Twitch, a hundred percent. Like, he could absolutely do that. He's got the knowledge. He could, I think, absolutely crush it. And he's no stranger to pivoting professions. So who knows? maybe um you know i don't want to i don't want to speak about anything to will it into happening but another supreme court justice passes away and maybe he gets inspired to transition into

gaming is that like the trichipatus baby where it's like every time a supreme court justice dies it's like all right time to change my career i will tell you i was listening to his interview and i had to pause go back and relisten because i was like did i hear that correctly he was inspired by the death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg to become a lawyer. Like, am I hearing this right? So I don't know why, but just like such a bizarre series of events for me, I love it. I mean, if I were to ever do law school interviews and I heard that, you know, I don't know, the application process I'm assuming is nothing like Survivor where they sit

you down like, so why law school? You're like, well, let me tell you a very heartbreaking story. Yeah, a three minute video about you reading off as many of your favorite. laws as possible and why you deserve to become the next law student at the school. Oh my God. I'm sorry. Why are not all law

school applications the same as survivor applications? What is your law hot take? What is your favorite previous lawyer? Winner and non-winner. What's your hot take? What would make you as a judge vote a certain way or another? How do you think you'll be perceived in the courtroom?

how do you think you yeah exactly um what life experience obviously has prepared you what's your strength what your weakness those are easy ones listen i i'm i'm very again continually flattered that joan was able to utilize my interviews so much in his own casting process all i'm going to say is if there are any you know owen knight ask uh people working in law school admissions they're for the taking it's up for grabs in a manner of speaking i mean look you want the best candidates possible. I'm telling you, ask them what their law hot take is. What what celebrity or fictional character would you bring as a witness? Yeah, what fictional character would you call as a witness? Actually, you know what? That is an incredible

question. That's like, who do you want to cross-examine? Who's your dream celebrity to cross-examine? Yeah, exactly. So let's touch upon Leon, to get your thoughts on a couple people that we did not doad on in our superlatives. Any thoughts on Christina? People had a lot of thoughts about Christina among her cast.

I'm genuinely shocked she did not come up in our conversation because she was someone who, one, pops in all of the promos that they've been doing. Like she has been featured. She is somebody who, you know, so many people on the cast talked about in terms of like warmth and the energy that she's bringing. I heard like a young Surrey comparison.

Like there's just so much. I mean, to CBS this fall. Yeah. love that show um so for me i i really really thought that she was absolutely fascinating she was another pick for the who would get a personal story because of everything that she has been through with her postpartum depression her mom falling prey to addiction like there's just so much there to get into with her and my my my only concern is in the challenges you know and she even talks about this is one of her biggest biggest weaknesses so but apart from that i just feel like everything

looks amazing from her. And she also had another answer that I really liked, which I've actually never, I don't think, and you know, would know better than me, but I don't think I've ever heard. And when you ask, what did you do to prepare for your experience? Most people talk about, oh, I cut out caffeine,

I slept less, I ate more, I worked out, I made fire, I bought puzzles, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Her answer was like, I made sure that everybody at home was going to be okay. Yeah. And that didn't even like, of course, like, She just is considerate of other people and is making sure that everybody else is okay.

And to have somebody out there with that energy would just be amazing on Survivor, right? Because she is going to be thinking about other people, making other people feel comfortable and make sure that other people have what they need and are taking care of. Now, could that ultimately bite her in the butt because you do need to be selfish to a certain, you know, extent out here? Yeah, of course. But at least from somebody who you want as an ally, like she would be almost number one with a bullet for me. Well, of course, it's only fitting that the last person I get your thoughts on, Leanna, is one of the standout personas from the teaser that we saw from what seemed like years and years ago. The man, the myth, the legend, R-I-Z-G-O-D, Riz God, baby.

Give me your thoughts. Another pick for rapper just solely because of his nickname. Yeah, so look, we see him in the preview for this season. And you're just like, this, I don't even know what words pick. I'm having a thousand go through my head. Okay, but like this, let's, let's say a character. Okay. And I was just like, I'm going to hate this guy.

I listened to his interview and I was like, crap, I really like this guy. Like, you just because he comes, like, in that one second, two second, whatever clip, you're just like, oh, he's going to be so cocky. He's like, got this weird character. but then I actually heard him talk and it was the moment he started talking about Nickelodeon shows and guts I was just like I like you I don't want to like you

but I like you and I'm so mad about it but no he I think he's gonna be really great with people I am so so excited to watch him and that is a far cry from how I felt at the end of the preview for 49 that's the thing is that again obviously people check stuff out the way you can but I would really recommend people

check that out because yeah, it's been really interesting from my own headspace perspective that I sat down with this guy for a very long time and he had said that he had built up this persona and I did have a thought of my head of like I bet you there is going to be a preview that

is cut that will only feature this Riz God persona and people are going to hate it. And again, if you look at those comments that I've gotten so far I think a lot of people have found themselves incredibly endeared. Now look, it's not a monolith not everyone's going to feel that way. But again, I think if you are feeling a certain way

after getting that mere snippet of him, I would say let's go under the surface and check out more of the iceberg because there is a lot to Rizzo between his story, with his family, between his head for the game and his knowledge of the game and how he chooses to apply it.

And the fact that, again, in a big rarity of Survivor, it really does seem like he is going to use this persona solely in the interviews. Maybe again, he could be a great influencer answer to that category as well and that like the Rizgod is this crafted percent. Now look, you know, I can't say that I'm like a massive fan of that idea. I've always said that I want my reality TV to be real.

And I think when we start getting into the realms of inauthentic, it becomes less appealing to me. But I think that is outbalanced by the fact that Rizzo is so authentic in all the other stuff that he talks about that we can pass on the Riz God here. I didn't even feel like in the interview, it was the Riz God. Like that, I didn't think that that's who you were interviewing. It did feel like a completely separate person. And that gave me a lot of hope.

And is another reason why I really liked him. I mean, he doesn't shy away from the fact that he talks about. He's like, I'm not girl. Like, I have confidence. I can do this. And it didn't, for me, at least from the interview, it didn't borderline on cocky, which is where you always start to run into issues. You want somebody who is confident, but not cocky.

I think the other positive attribute that he has going for him is the fact that he really describes perseverance as a personality trait that he has and wants to bring to the island. And I think on Survivor, you absolutely have to persevere. There are going to be so many things that are thrown at you, whether or not it's from your fellow castaways, from production, the twists, whatever the case may be, you have to every single day step into the game and be like, I'm here. I'm here to play. Let's freaking figure it out. And so I'm hoping that the combination of those two attributes

will serve him well in the game. Well, Leanna, we've given our thoughts on these contestants. But there's a segment of the fandom, a corner, if you will, that we always like to check in on, especially before a season starts when we're gleating first impressions, and they certainly are as well. It's time, as always, to visit the casuals corner. That's right. Let's get into that 90 degree angle, baby and talk about the casuals corner.

I was trying to think of something where it was like, it's hot out in Fiji and it's hot here because it's 90 degrees in the casuals corner. There were a lot of ideas. Look, the Survivor Facebook page, it's an interesting place. Okay. And this season, I think, really exemplifies what an interesting place it is. So I do have some comments that I've pulled from the casuals. I will tell you they're not so high on this cast so far. We shall see how.

Nowhere to go but up as they get to know. Exactly. Nowhere to go but up. There's new people for them to fall in love with. They inevitably do every season, even if they are low on a season. For example, they hated 47. They were obsessed with Rachel and Sam and so many different characters by the end of the season. So you never know how it's going to go.

But we will get into some of their thoughts. And the way that I love to do this is I have pulled comments about a specific player because the Facebook page will post a get to know you on each individual player. I go to that video, pull the comments. And then, Mike, you will guess who that comment is about. Right. So basically what video was it under? You get to know them out in Fiji.

You get to do these interviews. But can you predict what the casuals are thinking about this cast? Okay. So let's kick things off with your first comment. comment. She looks like Jennifer Love Hewitt. Ooh. Okay. Who's given Ghostbisperer right now? Jennifer Love Hewitt. Okay. So I'm trying to remember. I feel like we usually remember her as a brunette, which, hmm, I don't know though.

I'm thinking about like, I know what you did last summer and that I don't know if that's necessarily. Okay. We're going a little deep in the Jennifer Love Hewitt lore, but yes. Okay, I'm going to say, I think I'm going to go with Sophie, Sophie S, because I feel like she's got a little bit of that kind of like girl next door energy that she was bringing during the party of five era. You're only one E away because in fact it is Sophie. Okay, I can see that as well. I think especially again, like Ghost Whisperer era,

JLH where she like was completely brunette. I could see that a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. It was, you know, I didn't see it at first until I read the comment and then I looked at her especially in that video and I was like,

okay, yeah, I can, I can see it. Our next comment, Mike, I just want a video of him trying to open a coconut. Who is this about?

Okay. There's a lot of directions we could go here. Like, it could be about. Jake in the vein of, you know, can I say something, that type of implication of like, I don't watch him open it. Like, open me up like a coconut baby. Like, care my husk.

Squeeze me. Milk me, daddy. Oh, God. So there's that direction that we can go in. The milk me daddy angle, which is always a great one to pursue. There's also this idea of like, oh, you're such a fumbling, bumbling dope that. it'd be funny to watch you open a coconut in the Cochrane variety, which would lead me towards Jason.

So I'm really torn in different directions, much like people would want to do with Jake and the coconut. So read me like the exact phraseology of it again? I just want a video of him trying to open a coconut. Trying is the key word there. Not succeeding. I'm going to go with Jason. Yes.

you are correct. You may have been poor in like Natalie and Brulia, but you managed to hit the nail on the coconut. Yes, it is in fact, Jason. That is so funny to me that you immediately were like, who's the bumbling fool who's going to struggle to open a coconut? And why is it Jason? It's honestly, look, so I think that Jason could do it. It's just that, again, he's giving this vibe that so many people clocked from like Survivor 45 of like, glasses. Glasses. Glasses! Never went outside! Can't get to walk straight. Doesn't know what to interact. Glasses! What a nerd! And he's got beautiful hair like Andy, so, you know, maybe there's some parallels there that everybody's seeing. But yes, you nailed it. That was correct. All right. Your next comment is, what's with all these people on Survivor and Big Brother calling the host's Auntie Julie? And now Uncle Jeffrey? That is Christina. She did say that she talked about that in my interview as well, that she refers to him as Uncle Jeffrey,

which is interesting because, so again, a bit of the timeline here, we did the entire Starvriver 49 preseason process. And I'm like, oh, this is fun, Uncle Jeffrey. She does talk about a spoiler alert on the day one. Matt Chet,

I'm not sure if we'll make the episode. And so I'm like, oh, that's a fun little thing. And then I come home and like two weeks later, Starr gets voted out and calls him Uncle Jeffrey and I'm like Was there a group chat going on?

Like how does this happen in two seasons in a row? So I pulled this not because I thought I would fool you but because I wanted to talk about the Uncle Jeffrey of it all. Like are we doing this? Like is this a thing now? Because I would like to know, right? Like I just want to know that collectively like as a fandom

are we calling him Uncle Jeffrey? Like is that a thing? I don't know because I feel like it's almost putting a hat on a hat like I kind of like Uncle Jeff and I kind of like Jeffrey the way to like Courtney Yates

kind of sardonically sarcastically calls him that I don't know if Uncle Jeffrey works. You know what I think Jeffrey I think of like that more so refers to me as like the butler from the Fresh Prince of Bel Air you know like Uncle Jeffrey

feels a little too formal for especially this version of Jeff Probes to I think in some ways is kind of more unhinged than ever. And I know we're talking about the Jeff Jeffrey of it all, but is uncle the right? So first of all, we could go one of two ways.

You could go full unc. All right. And it's unc Jeff. Or is it like second cousin once removed Jeff? Right. Like is there another familial relationship that we feel like as maybe more apt? You know, the more I'm thinking about it, the more I'm coming around to it.

It's like an acquired taste because there's also the uncle right who's not directly related it to you. It's the friend of your parent who comes over and it's like oh yeah, here's Uncle Jeffrey. He's going to go, he's going to watch you for a couple of hours. Like, I could see Jeff giving that vibe, right? I'm like, here's my friend.

You know, he's got a lot of interesting ideas. Come on in Uncle Jeffrey. You know, come talk to my family. Come hang out for a little bit. That to me makes more sense than, here's my uncle. You know, Jeff doesn't really have that couple of uncle vibes. He has more so the family friend vibes in the way he regards these castaway. I love that. Like he's going to take me to the Renaissance Fair or

or something like that. And also he's got the Survivor guy person. So, you know, you don't, like, you kind of want to keep him a little bit separated. He's like, well, you know, that's just old Uncle Jeff. Right. Like, or Uncle Jeffrey, whatever we choose to go with.

Yeah, I will say, though, Jeff Propped is much more of an Uncle Jeffrey than Julie Chen Mubez is an anti-Julie. That is for sure. Julie Chen Moonvez is giving step mob energy AF Not anti-degree Literally, literally exactly what I was going to say This is, it's stepmom, Julie

Imagine, oh my God, imagine. Hi, Leanna, hi stepmom, Julie. The pure pyrotechnics that would emerge from that woman in that moment. I mean, it's accurate though. It's like, shows up once a week. It keeps talking to you about God. It doesn't really relate to you.

Yeah, I can absolutely see that. That's so funny. All right. Let's move on to our next casuals corner comment. Okay, this one's an interesting one. So I'm going to read it in its totality. Okay. All I can say is, hmm.

And then there's an emoji with like the magnifying glass kind of thing. Okay. All I can say. is hmm not sure about him he just might be great in the challenges but they're always picked out interesting okay they're always picked out what is picking out mean that is a great question i mean far from me be the person to hurl stones within my own odd phrasing glass house

but I feel like like getting picked and getting kicked out are sort of two different things that we're now squishing together into they always get picked out picked off it picked off is I think that's exactly

I think it's the wrong preposition unless this is like is this more like a pick me type of situation where it's like oh are they always trying to endear themselves to someone, trying to be someone that they're not. I mean, when I think they're going to be good in the challenges, this really,

and I say nothing about, you know, to be a moment again, the cast of Survivor Fern. This is actually a very, like, stealthily athletic cast. Like you have Joanne who,

you know, does marathons. Nate's incredibly athletic. But like, when you look at, again, the most physically demanding presenting people, it's Jake or it's probably MC,

but I feel like it would be most likely said about Jake. Mm-hmm. Okay. So I think that that is solid logic to go off of. Another comment on this person's video was how cute is he? So I have

the pleasure of telling you that that is about none other than the dreadlock man himself, Matt. Oh! A plot for every one. Okay. They really like him. I was surprised.

But you know what? That's always so fun when something unexpected happens. To be fair. Mother Julie says. Exactly. Stepmom Julie. To be fair, Matt does talk in his video what he said to me, which is like, you toss bags around at the airport for 11 years and not have work on your core strength. So maybe that person really took that and ran with it to be like, oh my God, challenge beast on our hands. Everybody watch out. He might as well get that necklace tattooed on his body. Yes. I'm sure that was everybody's thought.

Um, yeah, I mean, look, I, I do think he actually will be good in challenges because there is something you can easily over, but someone who has a physical job where you are having to do physical labor all day, every day. Like, that does so much for your body. So I'm, I'm thrilled. I, I think he'll crush it in challenges as well. Do you think there's a world where if tough as nails kept going, Matt would have been on that instead of Survivor? Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know, like, what his, what's his official title, bag handler? Airport ramp agent, I believe it's his official title. Okay, he might need a little bit more gritty of a title for that to be on top his nails, but that he would be a good fit. Yeah, I mean, I could absolutely see, like, him have to wear that airport uniform the entire time. Like, again, we had a UPS driver on the show at one point. There was a nurse on the show.

Like, the definition of tough is widespread. It applies to really any and all professions, depending on how you look. at it. Mm-hmm. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Our next comment. First boss energy to go. Is there any punctuation in there?

Nope. First boss energy to go. Could mean like, first boss energy to go, please. Like, yeah, I'm having that on the road, baby. Shout out on that first boss energy. It's the chapel row knockoff Yeah exactly F-I-R-S-T-G

Yeah we love it There's also like First boss energy to go Like trying to also do the YouTube tradition of like first But also trying to establish your opinion at the same time You know I didn't think about that interpretation I love that one first Boss there's also

First boss Energy to go oh my God They've got stamina up for days, but this could be, this could be the first boss of this season. And there's also first boss energy to go. They got to get out of here. No matter what it all connects back to the woman who has boss on her necklace that she left behind at home, but still might wear it on her sleeve. It's Annie. You know, I would not be surprised if that did cross people's minds, but I got to tell.

you it is the one the only Shannon so yes I guess she did talk about running her own business but my God talking about digging here's what I think here's here's what I think and I think you had a number of really

good interpretations I think the last one that you mentioned the to go part I think that's what we really got to hone in on so I think it's like first boot energy is maybe but It's instead of first boot, it's first boss, like the first boss you fight in a video game that then you get rid of. I don't know.

That's where I think it's going. And part of that is also based on the myriad of other comments on her video. Oh, which are basically like, I can already tell she doesn't stand a chance. First boot energy, all of that. I would say that overall in terms like first boot, I feel like Shannon got most of that from casualty's corner. That is so interesting because I feel like the vibe she has. had her vibe, if you will, in the video is so

shortened and different from what she brought in mind. Again, the first boots can cut a wide spot, so like, I would not be surprised if she's considered and not considered ultimately for that category, but I'm honestly surprised it would have been in response to this

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Yep, of course. I have the image seared into my brain. Fair place body had a baggy black buttoned down shirt. Yep. Now I'm trying to think about specifically among the men who else has a baggy black button-down shirt. And maybe it's just people misremembering. I'm trying to rely on the photographic memory

of the casuals for the life of me. I can't really think of anybody. The only person, maybe I would guess, would be Rizzo? You nailed it. What? Yep. Yep.

Yep. It was under Rizzo's video. And as soon as I read that comment, I was like, oh, yeah, I see it. Because he is wearing like a sort of similar shirt to what ThunderDee. Oh, you know what? He is. He is.

Yeah, for some reason, I thought it was a polo. I think I just, I had my own misremembering of it. But yeah, it is this black bun down. Because he is, I would say, a slider man. He's just inevitably swimming in it as he's about to go swimming in the Pacific Ocean. So, and again, Rizgod persona, not unlike a wrestling nickname you take in the ring. See? Exactly.

Thunder D, Rizgod, like, it all comes together. There's a lot of parallels. The other comment under Rizzo's video, which did genuinely make me laugh and maybe does influence a little bit in the way that I see him, but someone had said genuinely was not expecting this goon to be the Riz God.

And I'm like, you know what? That is kind of what I, the roller coaster I went on, right? Like you have this interpretation of like, oh, the Riz God. And then you're like, ah, what a goof. But like, what a goon. What a fun person to be around. Like, I do, I do enjoy that interpretation.

I mean, I don't, knowing what I know about terminology, maybe let's not continue to put goon and Rizzo in the same sentence together. Look, I'm just, I'm just reporting what the casuals are saying. Listen, again, if people want to say they're gooning on Rizzo, I buy you, not coming out of my mouth this season. Just you wait when we have Jordan Kailash on and he does the phrase game and that's going to be yours. all right let's move on

we've got two more people to talk about here is your next comment first okay no cut I just wanted to do first okay first person I like he didn't talk about lies he was going to start the game with

he didn't talk about lies okay wait all right I love these multiple interpretations this is like the words that a stone of preseason takes Always a casualty quarter. So it's that they're happy that he didn't talk about lies that he would tell before the game. Yeah.

Or that he didn't talk about, what's the sentence again? He didn't talk about lies he was going to start his game with. But like, who else is saying they are, you know? I guess a couple of people talked about like hiding their true. job, maybe. But this is not a major axe to grind even against this cast, and everyone's coming in with like, all right, here's your secret

you have to keep for the entirety of the season. Don't let that cat out of the bag. I love the idea that the worst thing you could do on Survivor is like lie about something in your life. Like, that's the axe to grind. Exactly. Like, no, listen, you can lie about whatever

you want to on the beach, but God help you. If your feet are not in the Fijian sand, and that's a moment you're not telling the truth on, I will make sure your life will be miserable. You can lie about anything, but how dare you lie about your job? What? What will your employer think? They would be embarrassed to go on the claim to fame spin off after that.

All right. So I'm trying to think about specifically who would say in their video, like, I don't plan on lying about this. And I feel like I could almost like guess who this and take some people off. the board instead. So I'll take off obviously all the women due to the use of pronouns. I would take off Matt because he talked about lying

about his financial background. I think I will take off Alex maybe because I think he might have mentioned it. I think I might take off I might take off Nate. I can't remember honestly if Nate talked about

whether or not he'd lie about his job. I can't remember if Jake talked in his video about him lying about like any of the personal stuff in his life. I feel like he didn't and so I would say

he would be my pick. Ding, ding, ding. You nailed it. Yes. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. This is absolutely about Jake. It comes as surprise to nobody that the casuals really like Jake. So I think that there's a lot

positive going for him, at least from the casuals perspective. And in particular, first person that they liked, all right, makes sense. I wonder what order they went in. What if it was like the third person, they're like, oh, this is the first person I've liked. He was later, I believe. Oh, okay. He was one of the later ones, I think, that they, that they reveal.

Definitely in the back half. But, you know, the casuals. All right. Here is your final. He liked to shake his back half in front of the Australian women. Oh, that's right. If this doesn't work out, he's always got America's got talent. All right.

Or Canada's got talent. Is there Canada's got talent? You can do everything. America's Got Talent is bringing so many international acts that like it's essentially all just become world's got talent. Just choose where you want to go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

And I've seen people compete on multiple different versions in like multiple countries. So he's good to go. Your final comment. So I did need to edit this one slightly. Just do not reveal who the person is immediately off the bat. So here is your last comment. Blank is the name of my maternal grandmother. Maybe I'll root for on that behalf.

We now return you to your program here on KTT FM with the perfect songs for this contestant. KTTFM. Well, first of all, that's too many letters to actually be a radio station. So, okay, again, Glasshouse, stone, far be it for me to call out a joke that doesn't work. But

like, is this a take on Liz's end of meltdown back to your regularly scheduled program? Is that like a take on that? Is it more so their own take of like, and now we bring you back? This opinion was brought to you by KTFM.

I am not sure. But, all right, let's go. Guess who's style again. It worked out for me last time. So this eliminates half the cast. Yep. something tells me someone grandmother was not named MC. That just feels

like, how dare you? Unless they had a certain type of grandmother. Now, here's the thing. Sophie does kind of double your odds here, right? If it's like, oh, my grandmother was named Sophie. It could be either or, though, we did talk about Sophie, so I imagine that

removes her from consideration. So who has a grandma name? Oh, there's so many. Like, Annie, could be one Christine, maybe not Christina. I'll cross Christina off right now. I'll criss-cross Christina off. Nicole,

maybe. Sage? Ooh, sage. Could be sage. Could be sage. Savannah? It depends on where this person's from. You know, I think depending on whatever section of the country they come from, they could have a grandmother named Savannah. Shannon,

I don't necessarily think so. you know what's basically a one out of six chance so let me take a literal shot in the dark here let me just do a right i'll do a randomizer oh dice roller let's see roll the dice roll a six side of dice it is five um i don't know did you five no why did you know you're supposed to assign the numbers to the people before you roll the die you can't do it retroactively i got too excited about the dice that I didn't think about what was on it. I will go with Sage, Grandma Sage.

All right. Sage. Well, Mike, you might need to burn some sage because that was incorrect. It was Annie. Five letters. Annie. Oh, I should have gone with the five. I told you.

The clues were there, Mr. Policeman. Exactly. I will say, MC Grandma, just to bring him back, really, that's amazing. If I ever decide to go on some sort of arc later in my life i will be calling myself mc grandma uh no so this was annie and you know what was interesting

you mentioned uh liz earlier liz wilcox has actually shown up on the casuals facebook page commenting on certain people uh there are two people that she has commented on that she loves them okay we make this a bonus round here can i guess is a bonus round this is a bonus round yes you may guess yes okay the two people that liz loves yes and i will give you a hint. One is a man. One is a woman. Okay. I think Liz loves

Christina. I think that Liz is a mom. And I think that she very much vibes with that attitude of like, I'm like I've given so much to other people. Now I get to go out and sort receive my own experience. So I'd say Christina

and I'm going to go with I'm trying to think about like who are the people that Liz really got along with I think that Stephen has a little bit of like that Charlie energy I think he's a little less dry than Charlie but she did like Charlie so I'm going to go with Stephen okay I can tell you that both are incorrect okay

the first one was Annie oh so yeah we got a love her three exclamation points on Annie's video. Which makes sense. Again, Liz also has that big boss energy, the fresh princess of email marketing. Like she loves the energy that Annie's bringing. The other person,

which this was a bit of a surprise to me. I don't know why, but it was a surprise. And maybe we can try to connect the dots here. But Nate, Nate was the other person. She said, oh, I love him. And then technically an apostrophe.

So I love him. So I'm not, I'm not 100% sure where that comes to. I was like, she's a big MCU fan. Like, is that something that I miss? I don't remember any of that. But she's really loving on name. Yeah. I wonder why.

Yeah, maybe it is this idea that like he's this guy that's come from this big high profile industry. Maybe it's because she also believes that he is a millionaire. So she's like, finally, he can enact the strategy that I had the entire time that I was one firemaking challenge away from instituting. Yep. So close. She's, she's channeling through Nate for this season.

That is entirely possible. Yeah, that's interesting. I think, uh, yeah, I would not imagine many survivor contestants are actively posting on the Facebook page. So thank you for Liz Wilcox for sort of being our, uh, no, I would say behind enemy lines. Because again, we greatly appreciate the casuals in their opinions for this podcast, especially. But it's nice to see Liz be able to join the throng as well.

It feels like I found a diamond when I'm out there looking through all. the comments, right? Like, I'm scrolling through the comments. And it was Tyson for a while. Tyson was commenting on some of the casuals posts. Now it's Liz taking up that, that mantle. But it's always just so exciting. You're just like, oh my God, is that the Liz Wilcox? Weirdly so excited. So thank you, Liz, for doing that service. Did people react to her? Like, did they respond to her comment? There was one person who was like, I hope that she loves Applebee's as much as you do. So, There was a few people that recognized it. But surprisingly, not like at the top, right?

Like you would imagine that if it was a former survivor contestant, there would be a lot more likes, a lot more hearts. They just kind of blend in, you know? And that's really what makes it that diamond. All right. Well, Leanna, thank you for going into the diamond minds of Caddrich corners. I'm bringing out 30,000 carrots worth of absolute fantastic content. I'm looking forward to seeing how these people are going to feel as the season goes,

how our opinions are going to change as the season goes. Of course, as always, you and I make our preseason predictions that we get to unearth, see how much of it is a diamond and how much of it is a cubic serconia in a manner of speaking, but it's all going to happen starting this Wednesday, two-hour episode, and then this upcoming weekend and every weekend, Leon and I will be back with a guest,

whether a podcaster and alumni, someone else from the community to get our thoughts on the episode, on earth our preseason predictions. Have some fun, play some games in general. Again, for a very vibe season, as you mentioned, we are the vibes podcast on RHAP. So I hope you enjoyed if this was your first time checking out the B&B, what we had to offer.

There is much, much more to come over the course of the next three months. Yes, absolutely. Much like the children, we yearn for the minds and we'll dig up everything we can in the next. this season and that's the thing and this is what I love about doing the B&B was that a Minecraft movie quote that

well I mean it was a meme before that oh was it okay yeah the children they year in for the mines but anyway so the the thing about the B&B is we will always find that silver or lining for everything

right I don't know why this is becoming a mining reference did you see the video of the lady who was like building a mine underneath her house. This was like a while ago and then she got shut down. It was like a whole thing. Wait, so she's building a mine?

Like started digging underneath her house and created this whole mine underneath there. Okay, anyway, whatever. The point is that she goes her own way. We go our own way. Exactly. Just have an absolute blast. So I am super looking forward to not only this season,

but of course doing the B&B with you, Mike. Likewise. Now, of course, what we do at the end of every B&B podcast is that for all the larks, and laughs that we like to have. We do also like to spotlight. Survivor Larks versus laughs. Larks versus laughs.

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That's going to do it for this episode of the B&B. Of course, Leana, real ones have not been. missing you over the past few months because you've been paling around on the Puyah and Leana Lounge. But for the uninformed, describe what that podcast is and where they can check

it out. Yes. So you can check out the Puy and Leanna Lounge on YouTube at the RHAP channel. You can also find it Puyenliana.com. That's where all the links are for listening to it on Spotify. Wherever you get your podcast, it's

all available there or just search Pooia and on a lounge. We every week cover just whatever random crap is going on in our lives. I will say it is a lot of reality TV. We've talked about Big Brother. We talked about traitors. I did talk a little bit about the cast so far because I caught up on all of the interviews. So all of that information is out there. And we and I just talk about, yeah, whatever the crap comes across our brains. It is so fun. It's to me, it's like the perfect way to start. your weekend because it's just so low stakes, so goofy, so silly, so nothing that makes it like the perfect escape, in my opinion, both to record and I think to listen to as well.

So feel free to check that out. Of course, I mentioned before all the preseason stuff that I did. That's available in exponential form across RHAP videos and podcasts and articles over on parade. Something I will plug is that again, I mentioned that survivor influencer experience. I got the pleasure to do an oral history of the Survivor Influencer experience I spoke with people in the cast to get their sort of thoughts as to like

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eliminated, I've got Exipress going on there, including into next Sunday's finale. And we're rounded out to CBS Big 3, Leanna, in a major way as premiering the day after Survivor on Thursday is The Amazing Race 38, aka

Upsol Big Brother contestants, or half Big Brother contestants, I should say, we made some Big Brother references previously in this podcast. What is your reaction to this theme of an amazing race season? What was so funny is that when they showed the first preview, they only showed

like half the teams or whatever. And I got confused because then I thought that only half of them were Big Brother and I realized that like all of the teens had Big Brother. It was just, it was a very confusing time. I mean, I'm a big crossover episode girly. So I'm like so here when all of these worlds

collide. I love seeing the people that we've already gotten to know and become fans of participate in another kind of reality TV show. So I'm absolutely here for it. I can't wait to see the season. The other thing that I was thinking about is if we have Uncle Jeffrey,

stepmom, Julie. What is Phil? Phil has more uncle vibes than I think Jeff does. I think so too, because that's what I was saying. I was like, you know what? Uncle Phil. I mean, well, Uncle Phil. No, actually Phil has dad vibes. Let me like.

bad vibes. He, like, he makes the dad jokes. He sort of is able to give that stage, not the person, wisdom to these teams. Like, he's able to be like a presence in their lives without like intervening too much. You know, he's not like Jeff at tribal council where he's like trying to really ply into people's conversations. That does feel like a lot of dad energy to me. And I feel like Phil's wardrobes are also very dad coded. I was also thinking like an elder cousin. Oh, right? Because he's. I don't see, this might sound mean, but I don't see Phil as an authority figure. Like I see him as someone who facilitates fun, right? Like, Phil facilitates you out there on the race and unfortunately has to break the bad news to you, but like doesn't necessarily have that sort of authoritarian type energy. So, yeah, I don't know.

Like big cousin, cousin Bill. I don't know. Big cousin Phil. Well, regardless, you can check out all the big coverage we've got going on here on RHAP. We just did a draft with myself, Jess and Terran, that was in the time capsule since March. We're like, oh, the cast is here. Let's make sure we record our thoughts before anyone spoils the bejesus out of this season.

So you can check out those opinions. But of course, we'll have much more present-facing opinions when the show premieres on Thursday right after, or the day after, I should say, Survivor 49. I always get so excited when we get to hop on the mic and get into a season of Survivor. That's when it truly feels real, Leanna. And so I'm excited for us to come back weekend after weekend to talk about whatever is going to, you know, play out in front of our eyes over the better part of three months. No matter what, we'll be here, having some fun, playing some games, some games that you might be able to suggest. We are willing and open and accepting of essentially all pitches for game ideas, no matter how small or how complex.

You can always email us, R-H-A-P-B-N-B at g-mail.com, which is the letter B, the letter-N-B at g-mail.com. You can also reach out to us on social media, use the hashtag R-H-A-P-B-N-B as well. If you're in the comments on this video, I'm curious, go back through the Survivors or Pellatives, write your own answer for those and why. And we'll see how correct we are in a few months' time. But the first step is taken on Wednesday. thank you all so much for listening Leanna I'm so happy to be back happier than a pig

in a hog pig slot pen and we're going to be rolling around the mud the entire season they say mud birds you as a survivor wait okay actually it's so funny so on my Google calendar okay I had put a like I wrote

Survivor premiere and then in parenthesis or in a quote amniotic mud It brought me back to that conversation that was it births you. The mud births you. Amniotic mud. I remember fondly. Exactly.

The contestants and us were getting in that amniotic mud and we are going to birth ourselves into the season of Survivor. All right. Well, we'll check back in on the Survivor, Nicky, next week here on the B&B to break down the premiere and get our assessments on these 18 people as they hit the beaches of Fiji. Special thanks to everyone behind the scenes. on RHAP for packaging this podcast for your eyes and your ears, and of course, Wolf from America

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