RHAP: We Know Survivor - Survivor 49 B&B Premiere Recap w/ Ali Lasher

Episode Date: September 29, 2025

This week, Mike and Liana are back together to discuss the Survivor 49 premiere with Kevin Jacobs....

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Starting point is 00:00:33 Hi, everybody, and welcome to the RHAP B&B for the premiere of Survivor 49. My name is Mike Bloom, and we have an entire two-hour episode to break down. We finally got to see these 18 contestants have their feet hit the sand. A lot more hit the sand, seeminglyly, in terms of bodily fluid. I don't like to yuck it up here on the B&B, I really put the yuck, considering all the stuff we saw in this week episode. But of course, I am not alone here. Listen, we're no Jake and Alex, surely.
Starting point is 00:01:08 But, Leanna, you and I have been chummy for the better part of nearly a decade. Were you feeling jealous going to watch these two fall in love? I will say, I had the same reaction that Jake did. The moment I saw you, I said, we have a bromance. He doesn't know it yet, but we have a bromance. I think you can fix my buff a lot better than Jake did for Alex. But again, there's no mirrors out there. The only mirror you can rely on is a hockey player male stripper hybrid.
Starting point is 00:01:35 And who among us, right? Who among us? Well, to welcome in our official coverage here on the B&B, I'm so excited to bring this person in because, look, we're going to get into a come from behind victory from the Riz God that involved maybe a little bit of cheating. And this is someone who just broke down a major cheating scandal that happened on the challenge of this past,
Starting point is 00:01:54 of course, one half of our fantastic coverage here on RHAP. It is the one, the only Allie Lashor. Yeah, between Rizzo potentially copying off of, not potentially, copying off of Alex's puzzle and the projectile vomiting, there's a lot of challenge synergy in this week's episode. So thrilled to be brought in when there's cheating and vomit. Arguably more vomiting in Survivor than the challenge this week,
Starting point is 00:02:18 despite the fact that the latter actually had an eating challenge. Yeah, yeah, no. Some people were, uh, Nicole actually, I think, had to vomit. The vomiting on the challenge these days is suss vomiting. Well, you know, I don't know if we're here to talk about suss or legitimate vomiting. But if you are, I've got time. Yeah, if there is one place to do it, why not here?
Starting point is 00:02:39 This is truly the haven to do so. So, yeah, this was the official start of Survivor 49. I will say, very fun start in terms of no idle finds outside of, you know, that back and forth at the fight for supplies, no real talk about advantages. So it really gave the lion's share of the time to us getting to know these players. And listen, maybe it leads to a bit more of a straightforward outcome. But I will say, Leona, as someone who got to know these contestants, I think I did relish the opportunity to get to see all of them interact in some very humorous ways, especially for the first two-hour outing. Oh, yeah. I mean, certainly from my perspective of
Starting point is 00:03:21 getting to see each of them individually to then now seeing like, okay, who's going to bond? How are we going to have these different interactions? Shannon and Savannah being close together simultaneously. Like that was not on my bingo card. I did not expect that at all. I think for me, almost though,
Starting point is 00:03:38 what was more entertaining was seeing everybody else's reactions to the cast. Because it felt like mixed reactions even within the two hours. It was like the first hour, it was like these wackadoos. And then kind of by the end, it was like, these wackadoos, like, okay, we're like getting some interesting television out of this. I think it's going to be a very chaotic season. And I think we got these first two hours perfectly encapsulated what we're going to get.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Yeah, Ali, I'm curious, you know, whether you had done some preseason prep or not, what were your thoughts about this first outing from the Survivor 49 cast? Well, I'm laughing because, as I said before we got on, when Leanna texted me about coming out here, I was like, oh, I'm not watching Big Brother. The Survivor really snuck up on me this season, as it often does. And after I watch, I'm wearing this Steven Fishback girl. I know he said this on a note. I was like, I kind of arrived to the show fresh.
Starting point is 00:04:32 I'm the one who needs the two hours to like know the cast members' names. I have since gone back and looked at some of Mike's excellent coverage on parade to kind of like, see, honestly, I really need to talk about like Savannah's former reporting days. And so I was like, maybe she gets more into this in the article. But it is fun to kind of go back once you've seen them on the show and like fill in the gaps about the preseason stuff. But I was coming into this episode like a newborn baby. And like Jake's future newborn baby or I guess newborn baby.
Starting point is 00:05:06 And I really thought it was time well spent. I'm controversial opinion. I'm like against two-hour television. Like I'm against how long the challenges now. Like I kind of think we could be doing more with less in certain instincts. Don't hate me. But I thought this was two hours well spent. I feel like everybody with the exception of maybe MC has making sure that's her name.
Starting point is 00:05:32 It's like not like a lot or enough to kind of introduce them to us. Like we're not going to wait for a random spike week three and we just like suddenly discover a person like I feel like we used to. So I'm really excited about this cast. I will not let Survivor 50 dull this cast shine. I'm into it. I'm in. Yeah, I will say that like I don't know if this was a top tier stellar premiere. I think there were a lot of fun moments, a lot of very funny interactions.
Starting point is 00:06:02 And again, as you both mentioned, some very wackadoo moments that I'm sure we're going to get into. I do see some of the drawbacks that people are talking about online. You know, we did really get to know a lot of these people. but we have sort of had the umpteen story in the new era of like I was bullied as a kid and now this is I'm starting to have this this trauma come back and again not to say that like you know people go through that and that manifests in very specific ways in these very specific circumstances it is sort of a storyline that we kind of keep going back to
Starting point is 00:06:36 in terms of emotionally based confessionals and the other thing is again the outcome was a little more straightforward you know when the actual climactic elements comes down to, okay, well, Nicole, who's destined to go, play her one out of six chance of not going. You know, then you could tell that things were very rote. And that just also comes down to the structure. You know, this is our ninth season in a row,
Starting point is 00:07:00 doing the three tribes of six. And so, like, I don't really begrudge Kella at all for voting Nicole out. First off, because she's outright puking in their shelter. But two, because, you know, if you lose the first three challenges and you're like well shit we gotta plug the leak let's get rid of the physically weakest person like even Nicole herself and her exit press
Starting point is 00:07:19 has been like yeah I sort of get it and that's really the tough thing about all this is that just due to the fact that we have gone through this sort of systemic structure in the new era it kind of automatically sets up for us to be like okay if X tribe loses blank is probably the first voted out just due to
Starting point is 00:07:36 having to get rid of strength pretty much early on so Mike do you do you think they need an episode not to bring up the challenge. But like, because, okay, so for people who were really locked in on the preseason press, as everyone should be looking at Mike Bloom's preseason press. But for those locked in, probably the majority I would guess of the B&B listeners, perhaps this episode dragged a bit because some information you already knew you're familiar
Starting point is 00:08:02 with these people. It really served more as a meet the cast, I think, than anything really exciting. Obviously, like Leanna said, it's set up some alliances, it's set up. Savannah and Sydney, am I using the right name? And I'm like, I really knew that. Well, you got your challenge confused, Sydney and Shannon. Shannon. A lot of S names.
Starting point is 00:08:21 She's going to be Sydney now forever in the spring. But yeah, it's like, it did set up a lot of different ways things can go. But also those are all in the air, right? Because they're not going to tribal. There's like two sort of factions on each tribe we're setting up that obviously will have to continue to explore. But I wonder if this episode didn't hit as hard for people who were more familiar with the preseason press.
Starting point is 00:08:41 do we need for the uninitiated with the challenge the challenge has a full-blown premiere episode that they just slap on a zero to call it episode zero it's not a meet-the-cast special and it's not a full episode where there's an elimination they just kind of get the introductions and the sob stories and the pre-existing relationships out of the way and call it a non-episode do we need that for survivor at night zero I think for me I don't I don't think that's a bad idea I think for me, it's the way that they're going to tell the back story. So, for example, I like it. Because, okay, I knew that Jake was going to be missing the birth of his kid out there.
Starting point is 00:09:22 So for him to do that in confessional, to me, right, that would be repetitive because I already know it. But him to tell his tribe, that's the most impactful part for me. Because now I get to see how other people are responding. I get to know that, yes, he did in fact tell them. And even if people are going to keep things from their other tribe mates, you can have the oh, you know, I'm in marketing, blah, blah, blah. And then you have the confessional that's like, but I'm avoiding telling this, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:47 for whatever reason, this was my actual job. So I think to see it in the context of the larger interactions is valuable to me. But yeah, if it was just like the, for some reason, was Alex the only one who got like a random shot of him at home? Or like, no, Savannah got it as well, which is also very old school. If you remember back in like the first few seasons
Starting point is 00:10:07 and they introduced people like, you know, here's Sue Hawk, a truck, driver from Wisconsin, like, it showed her with like a candid shot, not so candid of like her arms folded in front of a big rig or something. And they got that, they did that with Alex and Savannah, which is so interesting. Was it like, because they both kind of work in these professions, they had that footage on hand. Was this like, okay, we're going to send a small camera crew to your place of work when you come back, hope you're not busy over the summer? Yeah, exactly. It makes, it was just like, but why those two specifically, it's kind of like pick and choose, man.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Like, either you're going to do that for everybody or just. was like, don't do it at all. It didn't feel like that shot of Alex folding his arms was really necessary for me to understand what his profession was. But anyway, yeah, I'm going to lie. Sorry, for the podcast listeners, I want to say that Mike did the millennial version of like, yes, eating. He just pointed while.
Starting point is 00:10:58 I was like, yes, very good. I'm doing like a, yes, I'm kidding like on my screen right now. Toby from Sarned out, really great. But I do think it's very comparable because we've all. cover RuPaul's drag rates in the past. Like, it's starting to get on the level of like the mirror talk, right? Whenever they're doing like the pre-runway things. And it's like, tell me about what happened to your dog when you were eight years old.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Like it just, it's become out after the fact that it's become incredibly prompted that it doesn't feel necessarily natural. And then it does feel like, again, as very salient and devastating as some of these stories might be and heartening as they might be, it's kind of set up and executed in the same way over and over again. Again, I feel like much like we're talking about that from a structure. perspective of three tribes of six, all you need is four, and then you're golden. Now we're sort of getting it here with like, of course I tripped on my way to the water
Starting point is 00:11:50 well. That reminds me of when, you know, I failed during the big game in my baseball semifinals in 11th grade. Like it just, to your point on it, it feels like sort of an unnatural kind of set up for these things. And not to say that they're not naturally feeling it out there, it just feels like we have kind of, for lack of better term, hit a kind of madlib form of how these things get set up. Here's a question. I mean, I'm Stone, so I didn't even notice these sobsters, you know, so like they didn't hit me that heavily.
Starting point is 00:12:18 But what did hit me is like how job focused a lot of the introduction seemed. And maybe they always are, but it really was to a level that I don't previously recall about every single person really emphasizing their job and not just saying their current job. But like Jake wants you to know, I'm currently a corrections officer. I don't discuss that. I used to be a magic mic dancer. And Savannah, I'm currently in marketing, but let's talk about my former days as a reporter.
Starting point is 00:12:51 I don't understand a lot of the job focus in the intros, but I also, this is a cold as ice take, but I have to continue to come out against people lying about their job on Survivor. And I want to put it to you guys, like, is there a job that you should lie about on Survivor besides international Survivor franchise winner. Like maybe if you won another season,
Starting point is 00:13:14 you shouldn't say. But I am ready to say there is absolutely no job that you should lie about on the island. You know the adage of it's like, if he wanted to, he would, right? I feel like it's that way with voting people out on Survivor, right? Like if they wanted to keep you, they would.
Starting point is 00:13:31 It doesn't really matter. They can use any justification to vote you out. That's the thing. It cuts both ways, right? Like Nate says at one point, I'm just saying that I was always, lowly PA on Sam Ramey Spider-Man too. They didn't need to know what happened afterwards because the second that they find,
Starting point is 00:13:45 they assume that I made X amount of dollars. They're not going to vote for me. So I get on the one hand that your brain can just be riled up with an unlimited number of reasons why people will vote you out. But the downside of that or the other side is that there are an unlimited number of reasons for people to vote you out. Like even if you lie about your job, if you piss people off in the present, your job is now nuisance and you're going to get voted out.
Starting point is 00:14:09 So I think that it's people talk about this as well of like, do you really want to come into the game with like one more thing to worry about, right? That like you have to keep up this lie and don't get caught slipping or anything like that. I don't necessarily think it's worth it. I get that again, people on the surface might be like, oh my God, she's a former reporter. We can't let her get to the end. But also those skills are going to naturally come out that it would just insert that logic with,
Starting point is 00:14:35 oh, Savannah's a really good talker. We can't let her get to the end, you know? I'm more intimidated by someone in sales. So, like, the fact that she's in marketing versus being a reporter. But in any case, I agree exactly with what you're saying, Mike. Like, you're more likely to be disliked for coming off disingenuous in the 90% of the time you guys are making relationships and talking off camera. You know, like if you are really stunted about your conversations of why being a stay-at-home dad is important to you because you're not a stay-at-home dad, you'll probably come off weird. and not make good social interactions.
Starting point is 00:15:11 And also, like, look at Mike White. Like, didn't hinder him in the slightest. And people probably want to see them get a cameo in your Marvel movie. So that's way more interesting to have someone to keep around. I like the idea that there's this sort of peak in the middle of successfulness that it's the most dangerous, right? Like, okay, a lawyer or a doctor, maybe. But then once you get so successful that you're, like, in the movie business, now it's like, wait, you should absolutely be advertising. that. It now becomes beneficial because people are going to want to suck up to you to get a
Starting point is 00:15:42 cameo on White Lotus. Well, then here's the question. Wait, you're Taylor Swift's lawyer. Yeah, that's a big, do you lie then. You lie about your job, but you overstate your resume. Yes. That's the Applebee's method, right? Like the Liz, I'm, I'm rich as hell. You're like, I'm, I'm fourth in line to the presidency. And it's like, oh, my God, close to power. Okay, let me cover up to you. Yeah, exactly. That's the next level strategy. See, you know, we're coming up every day on the B&B with the way to do it.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Well, speaking of coming up, I need to talk about the various things that were coming out in Nicole's mouth at this episode. I mean, the spit still took me out. I was there in person to watch it, made even less sense that it did get it. And now Nicole has said in Exit Press that like this was out of context that Jeremiah had for some reason asked her to spit, water in his eye and she just yes and did the hell out of it maybe that goes to show that she knew she was on the bottom she's like shit i got anything that these people are suggesting you to do i will spit in your face if you want me to as long as you don't vote me out has Nicole considered starting an only fans the very specific subset of content because clearly it's in demand jeremiah's for
Starting point is 00:17:00 it i mean that's the good question is like but it's all virtual right like only fans you're not paying people for in-person services. I guess you would, like, do a custom video and spit on the camera, and then the person on the other end would, like, squeeze a water bottle in their face. I don't know. Like, 4D technology. I see spend my niece today, and she put a ball up to the phone, and I said, throw it to me, and she threw it at the phone.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Like, maybe you could do that. Yeah, exactly. Same idea. If you're going to Frankenbite something, I know there's, like, a lot of, like, editing controversy and reality TV, I love that the editors did this, because it was. was so much better to watch. Jeremiah, I just feel like, I have mud in my face and just, boom, like, that's not the sense of it makes, but I, that was so hilarious that, like, thank you for manipulating
Starting point is 00:17:47 that edit. I appreciate it. That's the thing. Even she is like, no, it's a lot funnier this way. Like, the editors knew what they were doing. I mean, it quite literally spat in the face of the actuality of what happened, but it's all worth it for the lulls. So, Mike, you were out there, though.
Starting point is 00:18:02 How did they get the mud out of their eyes? like the other people. So they are able, you know, they can pour water on themselves. There are some challenge. There are some. Then who?
Starting point is 00:18:14 Like, if not spit, then what else could be the spit you wish to see in the world? I, there have been challenges in the past. I've actually run a mud challenge where they set up like a basin of water next to the mat that you can like splash. Survivor's fake.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Survivors fake. I know. You have a water base of water. Standing water to splash yourself with. Well, get into some of the beats from this episode. I don't even know where to start because again, there were just so many pockets of wackadoo aspects going on. Leana, do you have a particular place that you want to go to first? No, that's, I think that that is exactly how I interpreted
Starting point is 00:18:50 this episode as well. Like, I'm looking through my notes and I bolded things. None of them are like big picture topics, strategy, anything like that. It's like the fact that Jason said, I'm in the TV. I bolded that. I thought that was important for us to talk about. I did like as well during the mat chat again Jeff likes to do the thing right where he pretends like he doesn't know you to have the person introduced themselves but for some reason the delivery where Jason doesn't realize he's being talked to it's like oh hi my name's Jason and yeah and Jeff goes hi Jason like I don't know it was like the end of the exchange like I don't know if that's patronizing or trying to meet him on his level I also love that too Jason just be like, I'm Jason. Okay, Jason. Great.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Nice to meet you. To be fair, this is all a feed for him to him. He just found out he was playing like half a day ago at this point. Yeah, is there a world? Jeff genuinely doesn't know his name. I didn't need to like mirror to like, I'm going to remember his name by saying it back to him. Wait, that's actually so fair given the fact that he was an alternate, right? You know it was?
Starting point is 00:19:54 Yeah, it's that theater exercise where like you're all standing in a circle. This is going to be very niche where you jump in and you're like, magnificent Mike. And then everyone mirrors the gesture. She's like, oh, that's how I remember everyone's names. I feel like this cast would absolutely do that. No, but look, I think to me, the biggest story maybe coming out of this episode is Rizzo at the, it's not sweat savvy anymore.
Starting point is 00:20:21 I don't know what you want to earn your supplies. So I think that like that whole sequence was so entertaining. so funny from Alex being like, don't worry, I do the elliptical. Like, okay, Alex, you got this. But Rizzo, literally, like, he could not have, the way that he cheated even almost was so confusing because it was like he took his puzzle pieces
Starting point is 00:20:48 over to Alex's to Matt. I was like, what are you doing at a certain point? Isn't it just easier to do the puzzle? I don't know, it was fascinating. Well, how many pieces could he be missing that would make it impossible for him to get 90% of the puzzle. That was also bizarre. He made it like the two pieces and the coconut he didn't open
Starting point is 00:21:09 were mission critical to getting any other piece to match. That was crazy. I mean, this was absolutely wild. Like, this has to be one of the biggest comebacks I've ever seen in survivor history in general because think about all the mistakes that Rizzo made in that he was slothed. bringing the coconuts back.
Starting point is 00:21:33 He missed a coconut. He can't do puzzles. And he still won. That is wild. Like, I want to know how long the actual fight for supplies took. Because I would imagine they were out there for at least a couple of hours. And if so, like, God, did Alex commit one of the biggest chokes in survivor history by being able to not dig in the right spot?
Starting point is 00:21:55 I've watched Bachelor in Paradise this season, which honestly wasn't undertaking in itself. should be congratulated for that. But they had on this show that is not about challenges, a like X-Marts the Spot style scavenger hunt that blew this one out of the water in terms of difficulty in like finding the location of something. The fact that Alex, and I, I get that I don't get it, that you have so much pressure,
Starting point is 00:22:22 even more than you do in a normal challenge. Like you are fighting for one. You're going to go back and potentially be a huge target with or without the, supplies. So my sympathy to him. However, it's marked out in Driftwood. What do you need to go back to the puzzle map for? What do you need to start digging around outside? Like, maybe they mismark the X and I'm going to just find it anyway. Rather just then, and Rob already said this on No It Also. I was screaming it at my TV. You are going to have to dig deep. Like, just another foot,
Starting point is 00:22:59 Another foot, Alex. You don't need to run around everywhere looking for this. The only thing I can think of is did he like kick the driftwood or something while he was collecting the coconuts? Like how fixed were those two pieces of driftwood that seemingly sandwiched where the supplies were in the sand? Because otherwise, it literally, all you have to do is dig, man. All you have to do is dig.
Starting point is 00:23:26 And it just baffled me why he wasn't. and able to find it. And that was the only explanation I could come up with was the moving of the drift one. If he moved it though, like, and I saw like a three foot deep hole, I'd be like, okay, something is in this.
Starting point is 00:23:39 The hole we saw was he thought they sprinkled like a sand guard in a mound of sand from your desk. Like, oh, it's not here. I dusted around the area. Like, where could it be? If not an inch under the sand. There's more sand in my shoe when I get back from the beach
Starting point is 00:23:57 than he moved out of the area. I was like, that's got to hurt to watch this back. Sorry to Alex. Sorry to that man. Do you think they could have used the driftwood to dig? Like, could he have picked up the log and, like, used it as a shovel? Or do you have to dig with your hands or as Rizzo also showed apparently every part of his body, including just his trim dragging his shoulder?
Starting point is 00:24:19 Wait, I forgot about that. Him shoving his shoulder just like through the sand. It was so, so funny. I don't understand why you couldn't use the coconuts because when we see Rizzo open up that last one, they have like the little curve, like just grab two and just kind of like use them to have at least some extra surface area
Starting point is 00:24:39 for removing the sand if you couldn't use like the big driftwood or something like that. Like there were tools for you to use seemingly. So yeah. I think crazy. Y'all please. They just, he just should have been able to dig it up.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Like what like? Just dig it up. It's not hard. Just dig. And I love again that Alex is expecting the worst, right, to come back so humiliated. And then Jake's like, it's all right, buddy. And Alex is like, I don't know you, sir. Thank you for recruiting me this way.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Because again, Jake has such a preconceived notion of Alex. I do wonder, because again, I imagine that Jake's going to hide everyone's shoes at some point, right? Like, on a daily basis. Like, is he, is he coconut chopping himself? like is he accidentally revealing his pecking order where Nicole was the first one and then it's like oh Annie's next and then Jeremiah
Starting point is 00:25:32 I didn't think about that that actually yes if he does that that would be so funny I couldn't tell who he was hiding in the next time on when he was going for the next pair of shoes but yeah and then imagine what if he grabs Alex is or it's like his subconscious before his brain catches up to who he's targeting
Starting point is 00:25:53 that could be some serious drama Any good prankster, and I actually hate pranks, but any good prankster knows he's got to hide his own shoe next. It's a perfect crime. Exactly. Yeah. If he does not hide his shoe or perhaps Alex's shoe next, vote him out.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Like he has no chance to win the game. Like he's drawing dead if he can't even properly prank the tribe. But like, yeah, why were we shown that just like for goofs, for funsies? Yeah. I think, again, I think this is, especially the way depth shifts he's it, I think it's a very goofy season. And this is not even when they're delirious from all the heat that's happening. So, like, this is the way they're operating now.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Just imagine when exhaustion finally catches up. It was probably the biggest surprise of the episode, honestly, for me was like, because again, Jake had this big two competing heartwarming stories, essentially, within his entire persona. And I thought he was going to be, like, very wholesome, you know, lawful good, you know, father-to-be son. to be seen by his blind father, et cetera, et cetera. Then he's like, but I'm also hiding shoes.
Starting point is 00:27:01 It's like, where did this street come from? I mean, I guess like he feels like he's playing with house money. His wife gave him them permission to play. So he's like, yeah, I'm going to do some stuff for the lulls here. Who is this man? And I went back and I looked. Yeah, he said it was 99% entertainment, 1% chaos. That was his logic behind hiding the shoes.
Starting point is 00:27:21 And I'm like, are you that bored already? Like, what is going to? to happen in three days. Also, when you're in a position, like he, I think, would assess himself as having the best position in his tribe. I don't know that you need chaos. Like, that's like something Annie should be doing, you know? Like, I don't know that like the head honcho needs to make a little chaos.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Exactly. Like, oh, I got to really shake up the status quo. When you are the status quo, again, this is like shades of Russell, right? Like, I'm going to control their minds. And it's like, you're already in the lead, dude. Like, you don't need to necessarily also trip up the country. competition at the same time. You've got a very good head start here. The other really funny thing from them when we were learning about their tribe dynamics
Starting point is 00:28:02 was Alex talking with Annie because you could see Alex wanting to say mother figure or grandmother figure as he does in conventional. And Annie being like, ah, ah, ah, don't you dare say it. Don't you dare say it. That was so funny as well. Good moment. It's crazy for a like politician who like, likes to kiss ass, as he says, comm's person on Capitol Hill, to botch that so badly. Like, I love working with strong women.
Starting point is 00:28:35 I'm surrounded by strong women. My boss is a strong woman of ambiguous age. That's not relevant to this conversation. Yeah, that was a huge swing and a miss for someone who apparently has been planning to find an older woman and get her in there. He's like, you, you're old. I've been looking for you.
Starting point is 00:28:53 I mean, he literally is that meme of like, try not to say mother for a minute challenge, right? Or, again, grandmother. Like, in special, he was like, yeah, I want a grandmother to work. I did look up. His boss is 81, so fair enough. But I was like, is he going to be in trouble
Starting point is 00:29:11 when he gets home? Yeah, but like Annie is like 35 years younger than he's like, close enough. At a certain point in time, right? I mean, Sue was essentially 100. Annie similarly. right, just some classic later days. I do believe is, is Annie the actual age
Starting point is 00:29:30 that Sue claimed she was on 47? Oh, really? I think so. That's amazing. I mean, so yeah, ancient, basically. The other really funny interaction to bring it back to Jake is with Jake and Jeremiah, and I don't know why,
Starting point is 00:29:45 but I want to see the full unedited conversation of Jeremiah asking to work with Jake, where Jeremiah is like, would people suspect you working with a gay guy. I just feel like there's a lot to unpack there. I think what was Jake's responding? Oh, no, but it's not because you're dead.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Yes, that was the best. It would be shocking for me to work with you for myriad reasons. That's not number one, dude. It's not even on the list. Yeah, I was just like, what are those reasons? Jake, you want to share those, please. I want to know.
Starting point is 00:30:20 I'm a serious start. I did love that from Jeremiah, because I do think like there would be a natural instinct to be like, oh, there's this huge bromance. I'm getting close with Sophie. I don't know that Sophie is close with Jake also. So let me try to connect with Nicole and Annie and kind of make this misfit alliance
Starting point is 00:30:39 that isn't sort of bonded by anything natural, just bonded by like, oh, look at how we're scared of these two guys. I thought it was cool to see Jeremiah go to Jake and try to pitch him where he would expect him to live of like, it would be such a shock, right? I thought, like, Jeremiah's, you know, win equity in my mind went way up watching him from knowing zero about him, watching him this episode.
Starting point is 00:31:05 I was really, really impressed with that move. We'll see if it takes, but. Yeah, I did love as well, you know, him going to Sophie and talking about, you know, connecting with Jake and then Sophie responds, well, I'm your number one, though, so you have to tell me everything. And Jeremiah said,
Starting point is 00:31:22 I just told you. But why male models, very that? Like, I just, I just told you. But I agree, though. I mean, it's tough because I think he very much sees that he would be number four in this alliance. And so I do appreciate him trying to sort of preemptively make those connections. Like, it's clear he's very in tight with Sophie, but he wouldn't want to force a two-two tie if it really came down to it.
Starting point is 00:31:45 And the other thing is, you know, how much of these tribe members are already kind of assuming they're a disaster tribe, right? Like we saw that a little bit with Vula last season. Now, granted, I think they were a lot closer in these challenges than Vula ever really was in any challenge. So I think there maybe is still some hope, especially after getting rid of Nicole of like, okay, we could still stay in it. But like, if you're trying to plan for the inevitable of a four-person tribal council, then yeah, you've got to start planting those seats right now. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and especially with the game moving so quickly, there's not a lot of time to pivot in those particular situation.
Starting point is 00:32:18 so you pretty much have to. And I think we got a lot about the dynamics on both. It's not Keele, Kila. Kela, okay, on, yes, on Kela and on Uli. I feel like I don't really understand the tribe dynamics so much on Hina, Hina, Hina. Yeah, Hina. Because there's been no like a formal alliance is formed.
Starting point is 00:32:41 It's basically just Stephen telling every single person that he's good with them and then also freaking out thinking that nobody's good with him. Yes, exactly. Exactly. And then the super fun generational conversation of Smash Brothers is what is what you do call streaming? That was. Jason has so many odd people talking to him in this episode between Jeff's. Hello, Jason. And that's like, so is what you do streaming? Please tell me. Throw me a lifeline here. With Jason and MC both being alternates on the same tribe, you know, from the behind of the scenes perspective, there are, Do the other contestants know Jason and MC are alternates?
Starting point is 00:33:24 Like, are they all in the same mess hall? As I picture it is like a high school cafeteria. Oh, it was a mess, Allie. Yeah. But yeah, to the point where, well, basically, they took an original cast photo with the original two people. And that's usually when you figure out who the alternates are. So, yeah, it was very clear as day,
Starting point is 00:33:40 which was interesting because Jason opened up, obviously, about being an alternate. MC didn't say anything about it on the mat. And I don't know if it's like it was a, assumed so she didn't need to. I don't know for some reason she thought like, well, nobody will know because again, everybody knows. You were not there.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Yeah, that was interesting that again, Jason chose to be so public about, again, his like joy and the whiplash the experience. Maybe MC just more so had her head in the game and was like, nope, all right, Jeff. I'm just ready to move forward as a contestant. Forget what happened the previous week or so. Yeah. But I think if everybody knows, there's no reason not to talk about it. Or if everybody knows that it's like, well, it's already assumed.
Starting point is 00:34:17 So I don't think it hurts them either way because it doesn't really change anything. At the end of the day, they were all out there for Ponderosa. It was just a matter of whether or not, you know, they took that cast photo together or not, right? That was really the only major distinction. So I think they're probably both fine. Yeah. Go ahead, Ali. You know, I'm just, I'm actually looking inquisitively.
Starting point is 00:34:38 I wasn't even going to say anything. But I think the only person I know nothing about is somebody just showing up here, who I'm seeing on my little list here, is Stofy, from Hina. Mm-hmm. So, yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, she very, she got...
Starting point is 00:34:51 Way overshadowed by Sophie Noe. Yes, exactly. Noee, but a lot more airtime. Yeah, I think that Sophie with any did this sort of like a generic confessional of like, we're living life right now.
Starting point is 00:35:04 You know, we're high on our own supply. We're happy. We love this tribe, et cetera, et cetera. She didn't really get a lot of personal content, one of the very few to not in this episode. How good do you have to be to get cast as someone with the same name as someone else on the show. Like, of 18 people, did they really have no one else that, like, fit this mold as well as
Starting point is 00:35:27 one of the two sophies? Is that crazy to say? Well, you know, I kind of think of that on The Bachelorette when there's like Caitlin B and Caitlin C. Well, you know what, you know what it is, the issue is Survivor 50. I bet you if the 50 or whatever season it would be was a newbie season, they would have separated the Sophie's. We had a Kyle on 47 and a Kyle.
Starting point is 00:35:46 on 48 and so they're like shit well we want both of them before 50 but like we only have one opportunity to do so just kind of squish them together on here so should they automatically be like ones to watch because like again even if you want them before 50 how bad do you how bad do you want anyone it's like 18 people out of a jillion applicants a jillion is that anyway yeah that's appropriate number uh i think i feel that way i agree and i also think that about for some reason all the women whose names start with S? Like, there's something in the water, right, between Savannah and Shannon and Sage and Sophie and Sophie, right?
Starting point is 00:36:24 Like, there was something about all of them that they were like, ah, put them all together, we like them enough. Like, we think they're going to be good enough or they're going to make good TV or whatever the case is that they were willing to have them all in one season because it does get very confusing as if you are. I will spoil my preseason predictions a little bit, but I do have a snake's alliance with some of the S's.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Yes. Trying to go for that final three. Yes, I love that too. Wait, I need to look at mine. I think I also keep that openly on it because I've got to hear your prediction about Nicole, too. Ah, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Speaking of snakes, oh, go ahead. No, no, no, go ahead. Those snakes don't weigh 200 pounds, do they? Like the actual snake of the challenge. Not the women we're talking about. like the make from the challenge. I'm gonna maybe reveal a bit of a state secret here. Every time Jeff reveals a weight to you future survivor players,
Starting point is 00:37:25 it is an exaggeration. The camera adds 10 pounds. Jeff Probes adds about 200. When it comes to like, this is a 350 pound snake. Like it's heavy. It's not the weight of like, you know, three high schoolers.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Like that's maybe it's to make people feel. feel better about themselves or make them feel worse about themselves. Like, I can't even lift this 200-pound steak. I was benching 250 back at home. But yeah, it's almost always an exaggerated number when it comes to the weight of any of these things they have to carry around. I was having a domestic dispute
Starting point is 00:37:57 because my boyfriend who's new to Survivor was like, that's not 200 pounds. Like the two of them are just like carrying it like a little bit easily. Like he's like, imagine if that was 100 pounds. And then I was like, well, some of the snake is dragging on the floor. Like if it was less than 200 pounds, they'd be able to lift it clean off the ground. But okay, he'll be happy to hear he was right.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Well, I will say, Mike, giant snake or giant gecko? Which one's better? The gecko. The gecko was so freaking goofy and it perfectly set up Survivor 46. And that it was just like this, it was that giant, like, Beanie Baby sort of plush thing that we all had in the late 90s, right? Like, but just magnified times 100. And so it was wild to watch them navigate, especially,
Starting point is 00:38:42 because with that challenge they had to push it up a wall and then hook it up at the top and then if you were viewing it from the top it would look like it was staring at the people who are doing the puzzle the entire time or like talk about all eyes on you now you have Big Brother Gecko
Starting point is 00:38:54 staring at you so yeah the snakes were fun I feel like the snakes had more accountability because it was two people going out and listen I love the assidents here of a spectacular survivor serpent so I can't complain about that but I'm glad we got a sequel to it at least
Starting point is 00:39:08 I hope that we get more weighty reptiles more girthy pieces of anamalia for these contestants to hurl around at the first immunity challenge. Pieces was interesting. That was the one. That was the most interesting by the girthy pieces of anamalia. Well, the pieces suggest dismemberment.
Starting point is 00:39:27 I don't know what those snakes were looking like by the end, you know? Oh my gosh. I'm just imagining that. Now it's like, yeah, carry this giant turtle arm up the ramp through the challenge. That'd be a fun challenge. Yeah, like you bring back all these body parts
Starting point is 00:39:43 and then put it together at the end. That's the puzzle. Yes. Wait. Actually, I love that. All right. Leanna, let's get to the woman of the two hours here. Let's talk about Nicole.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Word vomit for me. What did you have to say about her? Yes. So here's what I had for Nicole. I did have Nicole in the pre-jury. I said, the love child of Shambo and Boston Robb struggles to make connections on her starting tribe
Starting point is 00:40:13 making success in this game only a chicken's dream only a chicken's dream yeah you know like Shamba and the chicken dream obviously after losing immunity Nicole figuratively and literally
Starting point is 00:40:30 reads it on Jake's lips that she's the target Nicole tries to form a counter alliance with Annie and Jeremiah but they are ready to let the financial crime consultant be sent away for good. Nicole plays her shot in the dark, but it doesn't hit. Her ally was Sia, who doesn't send her money, but does tweet something in support of Nicole, and her enemy was probability. Oh my God. Yeah. Seah tweeting is a chicken's dream. It really is.
Starting point is 00:41:02 What do you think Sia would have tweeted? Like, oh, I feel bad for that girl. Yeah, that girl on Survivor who's spit in that man's face. And then puked. And that peeped. That was like, again, in an episode that was full of, I would say fairly predictable things. That was, like, that might be the most controversial part of the premiere for being completely honest.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Like, that did not need to be shown. And it certainly did not need to be shown uncut. You know, we could have blurred it out just a little bit. Maybe the hand over the mouth helped obscure the amount that the FCC would have come in and, like, really find them. but still like, God, that was just visceral, you know. Pooia and I both actively recoiled and went, ah! In response to that.
Starting point is 00:41:49 So it was, it was destruction at this household. I would love to hear Puya react to that. Like, I could hear his sound. Like, I could hear the reaction when he said that. Yeah, I like, because I was like taking notes, I knew I was going to be coming on here. And I, like, think I looked away for like a second. And when she was throwing up, I was like, why is she throwing up?
Starting point is 00:42:10 Like there was no warning. She wasn't even like, I don't feel so good. Like just nothing, just boom, project that. No, but honestly, though, like a champion. Like I love that type of person that's like, I'm going to throw up. All right, back to it. You know, like she was not necessarily milking anything. It was not a big lead up.
Starting point is 00:42:27 It was as sudden, but she recognized it. It was like, yeah, all right. Let me just boot and rally here. Not so much rally, unfortunately. Okay. Mike, what did you say? Well, I was there. So Leanna wins by default.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Though I would say, you know, I don't know if I'd be more off the mark. You were off the mark a couple of points. So obviously with her playing the shot on the dark with her figuring out, honestly, that she was the boot, unfortunately two strikes there and the third one being that she actually went out. Before you read your prediction, can we talk about the fact that at tribal council was it Jeremiah who was like, yeah, we have it down to two people. And I was like, not call. Nicole please pick up on this like that was a flub well the issue is is that this was not new information to her
Starting point is 00:43:15 like she knew that there was going to be a four so it's like more confirmation bias almost right of like oh good job Jeremiah really making Annie feel squirming in her see maybe make her flush her shot in the dark couldn't be me but then both of them should play it you know what I mean even if like even in the situation where Nicole thinks Annie's being made to feel comfortable. That wouldn't make Annie feel comfortable.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Saying you're down to two is like we were deciding between the two of you. It's not we're all lined, you know, unfortunately we're like we're moving forward as a tribe, like whatever. It's just like we're between the two of you, both of them should have played their shots in the dark. And honestly, I can't think of why you'd even keep your shot in the dark at that point because like it's the most valuable now when there's only, you know, or I guess it's always one of six.
Starting point is 00:44:04 but, like, there's fewer people to hide behind. You know it's a 50-50 shot. It's going to be you. And honestly, if you go forward without your shot in the dark, people don't need to make you feel comfortable and blindside you as much. And maybe if you have an idol, it becomes more powerful because, like, somebody might slip. Oh, yeah. So it's just so not worth it to hang on if you go to, like, tribal on where you'd be the first one out.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Like, just play it. I mean, that's what Rachel did, right? Like, she had an idol, but played her shot in the dark first to be like, do I need, to use this. So I agree. I think it's, if you have another asset at hand, it's a perfect litmus deaths. And it also, yeah, makes you a little bit less dangerous maybe in that, like, didn't work out for Mary. She easily got, well, actually, no, it did. Because if you remember back in 48, it was between her and Starr, and the reason why they voted Starr out over Mary was because she had her shot in the dark, at least partially the reasoning behind it. So like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:44:56 maybe the best thing to do is to just waste it at the first tribal council, you know, and just say, oh, well, now I'm a little more defenseless. So now you have to, you know, I can only speak the truth and you can only speak the truth to me or you can lie to me all you want. But like, I don't have something that the rest of you do. And therefore, I'm definitely less of a threat to vote out here. Here's a question. What happens if the entire, can the tribe break?
Starting point is 00:45:19 No, I guess not. It's going to be like, can the tribe break the game and all decide to play their shot in the dark? One person would be safe and the rest would have to draw rocks, I guess, right? There would be a mechanism. Even if you don't have a vote, you still draw rocks. Okay, but not, so it's, it's not, I mean, it is one in six, but it wouldn't be one and six in the sense that they're pulling from one cup, right? Or would it be that way, right?
Starting point is 00:45:41 Because like each would draw individually, like each would roll the die individually. So theoretically, all of them could be safe, but also all of them could be vulnerable. I don't know. I don't know. I'm pretty sure Jeff, and this might have changed. I'm pretty sure Jeff said in an interview around like maybe 45, 46, that there is only one safe scroll in the bag. Oh, okay. So they don't replace it, yeah. Oh, okay, gotcha.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Okay, I thought they would maybe be like, replace it every time. So your odds increase if more people play the shot in the dark on the same night. Right. Not increased. The odds of the audience seeing a safe increase. Yes. But it's also the ultimate prisoner's dilemma, right, where it's like, okay, we're all going to do this, right? And then it just takes one person and be like, no, I'm actually going to vote.
Starting point is 00:46:25 And then they have the single kind of vote to send somebody home. So you have to really trust in people, right? Like, if it somehow got down to Sophie, Alex, and Jake, I could see maybe that's the most likely scenario in this group where they would all agree to do it. But again, I think Sophie would 100% go back on her word. But then, but you would still, you'd still draw rocks. Like, it's not like they could say, like, now, what are you going to do?
Starting point is 00:46:49 Like, we don't, we don't vote now. So, like, that'll never happen. But that'd be funny. Interesting. Yeah, if you like prisoners, yeah, yeah, yeah. If you essentially strong-armed Jeff, if it wasn't the case that they, like, knew what they would do in that circumstance. But I think you're right, Ali. I think they would probably just make you draw rocks.
Starting point is 00:47:07 You're like, really? You know what about? Okay. Well, here. Yeah, that's exactly it too. I think it's a little bit of a punishment of like, you Dane give away your vote without us explicitly taking your vote away. Payne for your impudence, peons, draw a rock, let random draw. You want to do a random draw?
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Starting point is 00:47:47 Slash-YMex. Halloween is on Disney Plus. Hello. So you can feel a little fear. What's this? Whoa. Or a little more fear. I see dead people.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Or a lot of fear. Mom. Or you can get completely terrified. Who sent that? Choose wisely. With Halloween on Disney Plus. Well, I was delighted, not only to find out that Allie Lashro would get to come onto the B&B, but the fact that you brought a game.
Starting point is 00:48:28 This is such a nice housewarming gift for you to come in and bring something to help fill out the spread. What do you have on offer for us, Allie? I brought a game that's a rip off of the game you guys do. So I had no original thought, but I have a Madlib and I'll explain what the content of the Madlib is after I solicit you guys for parts of speech, if you will. So let's try to burn through this quickly because there are a lot of them, but I hope it'll be worth it. Oh, okay. So, Mike, can you give me an adjective? Glorious.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Perfect. I guess I shouldn't say. Leanna is already preemptively looking around the room to pick things. Okay, well, this would be easy. I need, Leanna, I'm going to go to you for a number. Oh, okay. I mean 69. Nice.
Starting point is 00:49:16 And Mike, a number for you. Let's go with 420. You guys are so edgy. I know. Okay, Leanna, can you give me a number of? verb ending in i and g oh uh spitting okay i didn't really think about writing i like put brackets with that i didn't leave a blank so we're gonna get there um plural noun mike um let's go with sneakers in honor of the shoe bandit um and then a plural noun for you leanna coffee beans
Starting point is 00:49:57 So I don't like a past tense verb But I just wrote verb E D so whatever you say I'm just going to add E D too Let's do let's do Climed Okay Okay and same thing An E D verb past tense verb Smelled
Starting point is 00:50:15 Okay I'm starting to get nervous Like what if I had the wrong parts of speech Mike another past tense verb Let's go with Withheld years are smart um all right noun sorry sorry I'm just like oh
Starting point is 00:50:39 I'd be like far I'm like sage I'm like poop and poop and pee and moon well can I go a smooth brain I know that I feel like that's a that's just like an object in of itself like I know it's an adjective in a noun but I'm going to go a smooth brain that is pretty wild actually thinking about it that this woman just peed off the boat on their way in multiple times didn't want to get into it but like how is that pot oh and she said it was a half moon like if you're taking your pants only halfway down i couldn't do well i did she was i thought the joke was that it's more of a half moon because i had my mom's hips like it's because it's like yeah once you see the full like yeah her full
Starting point is 00:51:19 butt was exposed but it was a half moon okay um verb ending nine G, Mike. Let's go with bringing. Okay. Okay. A place, Leanna. Oh, the Costco food court where you get
Starting point is 00:51:43 like the hot dogs and the pizza and stuff. Okay. Do you write that full thing down? I have room for at the Costco food court. Okay. Okay. And then Mike Annown.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Go with water. okay leon a noun oh um uh a dildo i'm sorry it's all i god child children shut open that i scream oh no child oh no child oh no child i'm chado chasynko okay um mike a verb let's go with nice um a plural verb a plural verb a plural word wait okay hold what's a plural am i let me go to let me go to ap style guide here mLA format wait no no what no it's that a plural term it's a present term that ends in s I think it's an adjective I think it's a word a plural verb is The adjective? Wait, what?
Starting point is 00:53:04 What is a plural verb? Is it two verbs at once? Okay, it's like, okay, so it is modifying an object. And it's an action. Yeah, I think it's a, no, but I think it's a verb. Do you give an example? I could say the sentence. don't say this sentence
Starting point is 00:53:29 okay the race the race starts that's a verb start yeah okay you get a plural verb no that's one race the verb that ends in S
Starting point is 00:53:43 that isn't yeah okay to start starts I get it I get a plural verb to sit it's just an S
Starting point is 00:53:55 what did you say sorry yeah like two sit sits right so do you want to say sit yeah does that count yeah does that count yeah good sorry guys okay um oh this I wasn't sure if it was an adjective or a no I need an adjective
Starting point is 00:54:11 and a noun back to back back to back let's go with filthy bowl I'm so stupid okay uh leon an adjective girthy Yeah Curthy pieces of animalia Okay
Starting point is 00:54:28 Exactly Verb Let's go with shadow Is this taking too long I'm sorry A Leanna number Oh 63 million
Starting point is 00:54:43 $489,000 $589,515 And that Exactly I need exactly that number You don't want to see how I wrote it, but I have 63,489,515. But I wrote it different. Okay, my noun.
Starting point is 00:55:06 Let's go with butter. Okay. I need some plural nouns. Just shout them. I need just like a bunch of nouns. I'll add S is where I need to. Okay, perfect. Hemorrhoid cream.
Starting point is 00:55:23 candle wax Oh I like that Slinky Um Gob stoppers Let's go with ceiling fan How about Let's go with
Starting point is 00:55:39 Sunflower seeds Okay hold on I got most of those Okay pebble Okay Give me one more noun Two more nouns Uvula
Starting point is 00:55:54 Okay, that's a good one And I will go with Charging Port Okay, and then How about a proper noun? A proper noun is like a person Right? Very important person place or thing
Starting point is 00:56:12 Very important person place, okay, all right Can I say Dwight Eisenhower? Dwight Eisenhower? Yeah. We like Ike. Okay, we're wrapping up here, I promise. It is such a mess to look at how I'm going to read this. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:32 All right, verb. Let's go with Tudor. Adjective? Slimy. Okay, you guys are going to hate me. I have verb past tense, question mark. So like a verb in a D, I can make it sense. It's harder than it looks
Starting point is 00:56:53 Shout out to the people at Madlitz Doing the Lord's work there Speaking of which, let's go with prayed Okay Another past tense verb Licked Okay Okay
Starting point is 00:57:08 Okay, the last three I need I need a verb Tuck Suck or Tuck tuck oh okay um two more nouns can I count that as one because I said it's the last three I don't think that that's allowed but fine um I will go with a squeegee and teacup okay and another so this is true so I need a time oh time let's go with 836 okay and then a general location that's the true last one so like not like um like I guess it could be any
Starting point is 00:57:58 location not not the food court at Costco Costco food court like is that too specific but if you said like the Sahara desert is that too specific yeah let me go desert I'll just do desert okay god I hope I can read this so one of the things that stuck out to me this week is Jeff's Emmy appeal of why people need to watch and care about Survivor. Yes. For your consideration. So for your consideration, here is a B&B version of Jeff's speech that, yes, I did transcribe this morning.
Starting point is 00:58:37 I didn't check to see if it was available online. If there's one thing that's glorious, that's very glorious, over 69 years and 420 seasons, It's this. Survivor is always spitting. And it's not because of the twists or sneakers. Survivor evolves because of you, the coffee beans. Everybody who has climbed this game before you has smelled the game in some way.
Starting point is 00:59:04 And in doing so, they've withheld the game. You can't have it. Not for you. Only we can smell it. Their pursuit of smooth brain laid the foundation that you're bringing on right now and each of you have your own reasons for being at the Costco food court where you get hot dogs and pizza your own water your own dildo your own story to punch what complicate survivor
Starting point is 00:59:36 is the minute the game sits all of your all of your filthy bulls collide because Survivor I can't even read this gifting Survivor fifting him that can't be what you said only only one of you will shadow
Starting point is 00:59:59 but it is it is your 63,489,515 individual pursuits of that butter that butter that's a lot of people okay wait can we I also
Starting point is 01:00:12 should we use that as a phrase now a slang term for money, get that butter. Get that butter. Forget the bread, get the butter. Get that butter, exactly. She's getting bread, I'm getting the butter. The hemorrhoid creams you each make, the candle wax you each take,
Starting point is 01:00:29 that will define your slinky. And underneath all of this is the gobstopper of the paradox of Dwight Eisenhower. The paradox of Dwight Eisenhower. You must and will rely on ceiling fans. in order to survive in a real desert. That's very true.
Starting point is 01:00:50 That cracked me up when he was like a real jungle. Like for anyone who's like, Sir, I was like, it's a real jungle. Yeah. And you must and will tutor each other in order to win. That is the beautiful sunflower seeds that make Survivor so slimy. Because without that constant pebble and uvula,
Starting point is 01:01:09 without charging boards being formed and then prayed, without trust being tucked. and then licked, there is no pursuit of squeegee. This is your moment, this is your teacup, and it begins at 8.30. Close. Close. Oh, my God. You're truck being tucked and licked. Yes. If I had that butter.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Allie, that was incredible. Thank you. That's amazing. That was worth it the entire time. It was only slightly, you know, less sensational than what Jeff actually did. I mean, we'll never forget the parable of Dwight D. Eisenhower, like, that's amazing. All right, well, that's going to be a really tough one to follow, but I'm going to attempt here in a very fun,
Starting point is 01:02:00 yeah, I'm going to admit a bit of a difficult game. I'm going to try to make this easy for you, but you can choose if you want to work separately or collaboratively on this, because at tribal council, Jake pointed out to Jeff that, well, this may be the disaster tribe. It is a tribe
Starting point is 01:02:17 full of unique laughter, as we saw from Annie and Jeremiah. Oh, no. My... And so I have a game that I like to call on the past laugh where, how it's going to work is, I'm going to play I would say a memorable laugh
Starting point is 01:02:33 from a previous survivor contestant. I will give you three choices. Don't worry, I'm not throwing you completely to the wolves here. And you have to guess who's laughing. is. I like R-I-Z-G-O-D want to cheat off of Leanna,
Starting point is 01:02:49 but I won't drag her down like a 200-pound snake being dragged out of the woods. I'm already down there. I'm going to be terrible at this. When you guys said Mary before, I was like, who's muffin in my head? Now I remember who she was, but like,
Starting point is 01:03:05 it's not going to happen for your girl. Oh, this is going to go so poorly. I can't wait. All right, you want to work together then? I'm down to work together but I understand if Allie wants to keep the competition spirit alive but I might ask her to spit on me
Starting point is 01:03:20 at some point in time. Oh, okay. Let's see how the first one goes. Maybe when we hear the first one will be like, we need to work together. Okay. This is the first laugh from a past survivor contestant.
Starting point is 01:03:38 Okay. I feel good about this one. I feel good about this one too. Okay. Maybe we can do this. You want to do that? All right. We're officially going versus here.
Starting point is 01:03:46 Okay, who's, it depends. Whose is this? Yeah, this is actually the only one I'm going to get in the entire one. So if I get this first, you know what, El, let's, let's do it. Give it to Leanna, because I don't want to get it wrong and feel confident. No, because when I'm like, it's Surrey and that it's like that wasn't even one of the options. I'm like, shh. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:04 So, all right, Allie will abdicate to Leanna here. Your three choices are Arbony Schello, Sandra Diaz Twine. Surreyfields. Yeah, okay. I'm going to say Surrey Fields. That is correct. Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:22 Well, call me, call me Jake, because that was a shoe in. Unfortunately, things get a little more difficult from here on out. So, Allie,
Starting point is 01:04:30 you are next. Here is laugh number two. One more time. Your choices are Thomas. From Survivor 48, Richard Hatch, or Zeke? Ooh, can I hear the laugh one more time? Of course.
Starting point is 01:04:56 I'm between Thomas and Richard Hatch. Is it Richard? It is not for Hatch. It's not? It is Thomas. That was a clip that you knew sounded like Richard. Mike, I heard it and I was like, I think that's Richard Hatch
Starting point is 01:05:15 And then you were like, okay, Richard Hatch And I was like, it's Richard Hatch Wow, so you even get Richard Hatch Before the choices were presented Yes Who? But then you said Thomas And I was like, uh-oh It does sound a little like Thomas
Starting point is 01:05:27 But it sounds more like Richard Hatch Not that I remember Yeah, tell Thomas he has resting Richard Hatch laugh He really does I don't know if that's a compliment or insult This episode is brought to you by Square You're not just running a restaurant, you're building something big, and Square's there for all of it, giving your customers more ways to order, whether that's in-person with Square kiosk or online.
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Starting point is 01:06:12 Number three One more time All right All right So for this one We are going to Some cast members From Survivor
Starting point is 01:06:28 Blood versus Water We have Candice Cody RC St. Amore And Laura More I'm gonna guess RC. That is
Starting point is 01:06:38 correct. Okay. The choices that were critical. 50 points. 50 points to Leanna, because I was going to guess Laura Morrette based on the options. Yeah, this was, I think one of the ones that I remembered the most is just this.
Starting point is 01:06:56 I don't enjoy it. There's a five-minute YouTube video that is just all the cuts of her laughing, and it's the same laugh every single time. So I guess, listen, Abby Maria made her life miserable, but like, She had plenty of laugh about it, it seemed, during her time in Philippines. What's the opposite of a contagious laugh?
Starting point is 01:07:11 Yeah, one that really just deads the air. Like, no one wants to be laughing. Yeah, non-virialant laugh. It's been bacterial laugh. You can't say it. Bacterial would have been good in the Madlib. There we go. All right.
Starting point is 01:07:26 Allie, you are next. Here is laugh number four. I don't know. I thought I had an idea, but I don't. Oh, let me play it again for you. Your choices are from the fantastic season that was Survivor Kagayan. We have Cass, we have Trish, and we have Tasha.
Starting point is 01:07:57 It's, it has to be Trish, no? That is correct. Oh, no, okay. And again, I don't know if this is a YouTube poop or not, but there is somebody that has a three-minute video of just this. You know, when you hear it, it's, of course, it's Trish. But when I didn't have the options, I was like, who the heck is that? How many viewers does that video have just out of curiosity?
Starting point is 01:08:24 You're sick. Yeah, it's got at least like 5K or something. I just want to know. You're sick. Well, it's got one more now with Leanna. I will say, I am no doctor. I do fear for Trish a little bit because the way she was like inhaling
Starting point is 01:08:38 sounded nasty Can you breathe? There's something with your lungs that needs to be checked out. Oh, God. Yeah, like, what if someone contacted Trish afterwards of like, you come see me? Like, I heard you laugh on Survivor
Starting point is 01:08:51 and I'm concerned. Someone on reality got diagnosed with monks or something because like a nurse wrote to them on Instagram it was like, I think you might have mumps. What? Oh. I wish I remembered the facts of that story.
Starting point is 01:09:05 Was it like a live-to-ta-tape show, though? Because, like, if this film, like, months ago, they're like, oh, by the way, I think back then you might have had mumps. I don't know. I literally just only remember that. While we play the next laugh, I'll try to find it. All right. Well, Leanna, you're ahead, two to one.
Starting point is 01:09:23 Let's see if you can make it a perfect three-for-three here. Here is laugh number five. Again, one more time. Your choices are Kathy Bavrick O'Brien, Sue Hawke, Tina Wesson. Can I hear it one more time? Of course. That also might be one of them.
Starting point is 01:09:52 We need to get checked out. Kathy? Perfect score for Leanna Boris. That is correct. Oh, man. That's embarrassing. what's your superpower identifying survivor players laughs apparently separate rich or hatch people were talking all about red flags like that's my green flag
Starting point is 01:10:15 you know exactly that you're a woman after my own heart liana if you're able to identify survivor players solely by the lap but yeah this is the iconic uh kathy of avica brian ha ha ha laugh yes yes yes yes yes yes oh man well alie you are mathematically eliminated the best kind of eliminated but you could end on a high note here with the final Did you find the mumps? No. And actually don't Google reality TV mumps. Okay, good.
Starting point is 01:10:43 PSA, don't Google reality TV mumps. All right. Final laugh for you, Allie. One more time. Okay. That's a nice laugh. I like that laugh. lap, I will say it is from the new era
Starting point is 01:11:06 of Survivor. Is it Mike Turner? Is it Bruce? Or is it Jake O'Kane? Oh, play it again? It wouldn't be me if I wasn't like hearing a Bostonian's laugh and being like,
Starting point is 01:11:29 I like that laugh. Is that Jake? That is Jake. You love a lawyer laugh. You love a Bostonian laugh, baby. I prefer Boston laugh to a lawyer laugh. I'll tell you that for free. Wow. That's so spot out. Like, no one knows this about me unless you follow me on Twitter over the last like three or four years. But that really does track. And I was like, oh, I like that laugh. That's interesting. So like if you were, if someone was in a police lineup, you'd be able to tell who was from Boston just saying, hey, laugh at something? I would have to say,
Starting point is 01:12:00 which laugh am I the most naturally drawn to? I don't know that I would be able to identify. Yeah, I, I have a career in laugh catching, Boston people, I guess. As a laugh catcher. It's a pronounced lasher. Yes. Well, congratulations to Leanna. This was a laugh, I should say. And you both were incredibly good at identifying laughs across a survivor.
Starting point is 01:12:27 And now we have two more to add on there. And the one, the one that we got wrong, like that one, I'm telling you, Thomas sounds like Richard Hatch. Like, that was, if you hadn't put Richard in there, I think maybe there's a universe, we could have figured out it was Thomas. But like, I still think that was Richard Hatches laugh. And you just, like, mislabeled it.
Starting point is 01:12:47 Yeah, I believe it was Weezer that said, ooh-we-you, Thomas sounds like Richard Hatchie. And that indeed was the case. Yeah. And actually, Trish was the Weezer, actually, if you listen to her laugh. You're so hard on her. No, you did a great job in the last one, too,
Starting point is 01:13:02 because until I heard Jake as the option when I first heard it, I thought it was Bruce. So like, you did a great job with the game, Mike. Thank you. Thank you. Well, we are starting to bring things to a close here on the B&B just to put a point at the end of that sentence. But of course, we finish
Starting point is 01:13:19 each and every week on the B&B by giving an opportunity to our guests to highlight a charity or cause that is important to them. So, Allie, the ball is in your court. Give us some proper nouns of places we can go if we want to have the ways and means to help support a charity you need.
Starting point is 01:13:36 Can I first do charity for myself and ask you one more follow question? One more survivor experience question. What an interesting way to phrase. Let me ask a question. And let me do some charity to myself. I think the great Grin Kaplan said charity starts at home, which I never really understood if I'm being honest back in the day. But were you there when Jeff carved the starting line?
Starting point is 01:13:59 Yes, I was there. I was very surprised that made. the episode. I thought it was just like, oh yeah, like there were a lot of things between the Jason thing and Jeff carving the starlight that I'm like, this is enjoyable in the moment. I'm so glad that, you know, I get to experience this and talk about this to other people because nobody is going to see this on national TV. Jeff's like, here's our branded Survivor starting line. He dug deeper than Alex did, arguably. And that's it was unfair, right? Like, you shouldn't be able to start at the other contestants finish point. Like, I, for one of the,
Starting point is 01:14:32 the best challenge design show of any show I watch. That was in Floppedina. I was like, why are we highlighting this? Okay. So it was just like they hadn't thought about it. What was the? Yeah, I guess so because, or it was like they were maybe going to move something in
Starting point is 01:14:48 once they transitioned to the challenge, but they were just sort of like, you know what? I think I could just drag my heel across the starting line here and hope the players don't drag their heels and me getting answers out of them. Okay, well, thank you. Sorry, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:15:01 no I was going to say like I do it is so funny that there's so much emphasis on the challenges and everything's named and they spend so much energy and effort with it and it's just like just drag your foot through the sand like either I don't even think trouble or they just lulled it Jordan Kayla's just thinking about the starting line in Survivor Brooklyn I don't think like they're even dragging something there they've got a stick um all right I thank you for for that uh we mentioned theater um theater um theater exercises in the spirit of the greatest podcast that ever was mine and mike blooms tony recap uh broadway cares equity fights aids one of my one of my favorite charities uh supporting
Starting point is 01:15:43 the theater community in new york and beyond uh it's a good one there we go and we just heard from a theater kid in the form of jake and people listen people were certainly complaining this week of like this is cast has too much theater kid energy and so let's pay that theater kid energy uh enter you know forward and uh support a very great cause. Allie, thank you so much for kicking off this in style for dragging your feet across the sand to do this survivor starting line.
Starting point is 01:16:11 It was a great place. You do have now the sand in your shoe that you alluded to earlier. But, of course, you are down in the sand with Brian Cohen every week covering the Challenge 41. What would you like to plug from that? Should people be checking out this season? Yeah, check out CT's Instagram grid
Starting point is 01:16:29 where he reposted inexplicably a video of me and Brian doing more promo for a cap up than I ever have or ever could. No, honestly, it's a great season. We're at kind of an inflection point where the format has just changed going into next week. So it's a good one. I hate to tell you, if you're not watching the challenge, you're sleeping on a great season. Check it out. Also, me and Akiva talking about the paper, inexplicably.
Starting point is 01:16:57 Check them out. New girl, old guy. We're still kicking. And thank you guys for having me. As I told Leanna when she texted me, the quickest yes I will ever give in this community and beyond, frankly, is a text about me.
Starting point is 01:17:12 I love what you're doing. It is the premier Survivor podcast. It is one of my favorites. I love being here. So thank you for having me. And we are so happy to have you here. Leanna, how's the pal going? Pal's going great.
Starting point is 01:17:28 We are going to be, recording our 39th episode, which is wild to think that we are already there. Again, talking about everything ridiculous. We've just started a new sort of series on The Pal where we're talking about now that's what I call music. If you guys remember those albums from when we were younger. So we're going through all of that, of course, talking about all the nonsense, Big Brother, Survivor and everything else that we're getting up to. Definitely check it out. Pui and Leana.com. Okay, wait. So like, are you listening to it back? Are you more so going through the track listing and be like, I remember that song? Yeah, yeah, that's what we're doing. Well, no, we're picking our top three from each album.
Starting point is 01:18:09 So there's a discussion about which ones, which song's the best, which ones we feel like truly encapsulated the era. How did that song get on there kind of conversation? So it's very fun, yeah. All right. Well, of course, if you missed it, I got the chance to talk with Nicole for parade. I also wrote not only a big old piece about everything that you may have miss that didn't make the edit from the premiere of Survivor 49 uh from my experience being out there for the first three days i also basically did it in podcast form with rob on the patron side of things over the weekend so be sure to check that out but of course it is all about big brother at the time that we are recording this the premiere coming on tonight and i will be uh burning the midnight
Starting point is 01:18:51 oil that candle wax to talk with the final three and america's favorite house guest uh thank you to everyone who has checked out that coverage all season long, just a little while to go, but I'm very excited to see what tonight is going to provide for us. But hopefully we can provide for you some great coverage of Survivor 49 moving forward. As next
Starting point is 01:19:12 week, Leon and I will be back with another guest breaking down episode 2 of Survivor 49. We shall see, you know, it feels like we're probably going to get some idle stuff. I was a little surprised that nobody found anything in the first three days. So I imagine we're going to get
Starting point is 01:19:28 at least a little bit of that, if not a journey to introduce advantages or disadvantages. And we'll see, you know, how screwed is Kella? If Uli goes to tribal council, what alliance will Savannah choose? What's going on on Hina? We shall see next week.
Starting point is 01:19:44 And Leon and I will be back with all the funning games you need covering it all. Special thanks to the entire team behind the scenes at RHAP for packaging this podcast for your eyes and ears. I will from America for his fantastic theme song. And we'll be back next week covering Survivor 49, episode two, here on the B&B. Until then, everybody, we'll check you out at your next day. Mike and the honor, yeah, they're playing some games.
Starting point is 01:20:09 You better pray to your mama that they're not superlain. And if that all sounds cool, I can tell you the name. It's the R-H-A-P-B-M-B-M-B-M-M-B. Mike and the Anna, got to play in some games. You better pray to your mama's up there not superlain. And if that all sounds cool, I can tell you the name. It's the R-H-A. You can stay for free.

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