RHAP: We Know Survivor - Survivor 49 Draft

Episode Date: September 22, 2025

Get ready for the Survivor 49 pre-season draft! The Rob Has a Podcast crew is back again for another heated battle with bragging rights on the line. With microphones at the ready and Survivor expertise in abundance, the podcasters set out to select their champions from a fresh batch of castaways!

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Hey everybody, what's going on? Rob Sesterino back here to officially bring you the Survivor 49 podcaster draft, and we are here on a Sunday night before Wednesday's premiere of Survivor 49, and we have your Survivor podcaster draft. panel back together somehow for the 10th time to draft here for Survivor 49 49 Leanna check my math prime number we brought your seven favorite people together for this one once again to talk with you and so let's get into it let's let's say hi to the panel taking a little respite from everything going on with Big Brother it's Taran Rompstrand Taryn how are you I'm excited

Rob, you don't bring out the math jokes for Big Brother. Yeah, that's right. We got to get pumped up. You know, it was a long summer. The brain going, I guess. Yeah, okay. And we are fired up. We actually did our Survivor 50 draft when they announced the cast.

So everybody, we've actually done another whole ass draft since Survivor 48, believe it or not. We did? I don't believe it. You did. We did. We don't think we're not going to draft for another. the year. It's a fever dream. Yeah. Okay. Wow. I didn't think of it. I didn't even think

about that. Wow. I think about it all the time. It makes me really sad. All right. We'll have to cherish this night together as we will not have another new draft. I'll have to do a big brother draft, Shannon. All right. Here with us. We had such a great time yesterday going through

reality mafia, of course, from the Puyah and Leona Lounge and so many others. It's Puyah. Yes, a.k.a. The reigning champion. Happy to be back. This is always a good time. So just going to be positive about it. Okay. All right.

Well, Puyo, welcome back. And, of course, I'm a man who, of course, is fired up and ready to go for Survivor 49. It's Chappelle. Shepal. How are you? I'm feeling great. I'm ready to get the Survivor season started so we can get back to Club Condo. So, yeah, let's get this draft out the way so we can get this show on the road. Okay.

We're only eight days away for Club Condo. I'm going to call it out a bad job by us putting all the men on the top row. That was not ideal planning on our part. Sam. All right. Well, now, here it is. Let's meet our new top row. Of course, she just got done finishing a season of Australian Survivor versus the world

and is ready to set her sights back to the USA. It's Shannon Gus. Well, back to it. It was a lot of U.S. And that's true. I forgot. Yeah, it was a whole world. It was a whole thing.

It was great. So much Survivor happening. If anyone hasn't watched that, what are you doing? Like, if you're a U.S. Survivor fan who cares enough to watch this draft and you somehow didn't watch AU versus the world, tell me why. I don't know what could be the possible reason, but I'm very excited for this draft. Hey, there's still time.

Yes. And you can do it in a day. It's 10 episodes. Yeah. Okay. Also, back with us once again, of course, of the Puyang Leana Lounge. And now the Survivor B&B is back in season. Dr. Leonoporis.

Thank you, Rob. Yes. Mike and I recorded our preview podcast for the B&B, so I would definitely check that out. We get into not only our own thoughts in more detail, but the casuals as well. And you never want to miss what the casuals think about the cast. Okay. And what a ride this person has had through 10 Survivor drafts where she had to miss some along the way because she took a little stint of going to go be on Survivor, of course, of the perfect match podcast. It's Asia Welch. Asia, how are you?

Hello, Rob. I'm doing wonderful. And look, I take this draft so seriously that I flew to Australia so that I could have an in-person strategy session. Pre-game alliance. Yes. Yeah, well, because my plan of breaking Puyalli and Liana up seemed to not be working yet, I'm like, I need a marriage-level alliance. Obviously, I chose Asia for obvious reasons. It kind of seems like it speaks for itself. And she came to Australia. It doesn't speak for itself. Tell me why not me.

I don't want it to be you. Taryn I thought about. Taryn I did think, but the agent won't out. And we have a great alliance now that we've stated to everyone. We've posted pictures on Instagram. It was actually, it's not smart. That's not a smart way to do an alliance. But here we are.

Okay. And here we are, indeed, ready to draft. Only 18 players after the last draft we did, which was 24. So this one is going to fly by as we go through. I will not be drafting. I'm just here facilitating and making sure that we get to all of our picks. No picks for the audience either. Everyone's going to pick three.

It is a draft to pick the winner. Just don't pick the grenade. That's how we do it here on the Survivor 49 draft. Last time out in Survivor 48, we congratulate Pooya for his win. He picked Kyle, I believe, this is your second win. The first one to do it, yes. And worth noting, I got Kyle because Terran sniped Shaheen, my Persian brother, and I was fuming about that. And it worked out in the end.

So can't complain about it, can I? Okay. Well, we're so happy. Kyle has gone on to such great success and has done so many things, but maybe none more notable than sending this message. Pooia. How we doing, baby? This is Kyle Fraser. I am incredibly honored because I get to reach out to you.

fellow winner and say congratulations for winning that Survivor 48. Rob has a podcast draft. You know, I knew from the moment I met you. I actually met you during the season 47 RHAP event. And, you know, congratulations, by the way, on you and Leon's move. You know, I feel as if we're very close friends, so I know that information. But congratulations on the move. Congratulations on the win.

It just seems like everything in your life is going great, you know. And I can identify with that if I'm being honest with the two years, especially because I watched the draft live and they tried to. to do you dirty, man. You wanted Shaheen. Shaheen, phenomenal player. And they took them from you. And, you know, I'm glad that I was the next best thing. I'm glad that you could identify talent.

And I'm really excited that I could help you bring home this win. You know, I was watching, I was watching RHAP throughout the entire season. And Pooey, there were some people some people who you podcast with, you know, they will not be named. They will not be named. But some people who were doubting me, man.

The analysis just fell off. My mom knew I once. She would call me every now and then she's like these people just can't see the process and you know what i think my mom was right and i think you were right and i think there were some people who were wrong but that's no big deal poohia um because we don't hate unlike you you know i'm sure that you'll be gracious in who you choose uh for the next for the draft picks and the order etc etc but uh you know congratulations on you win i'm really glad that i could be a part of it good luck in this year's draft let's make this back to back. Peace.

Oh, my God. Worth everything. That was so good. You can't use the chizzy mug for violence. Shannon, you were catching strays there. Hey, I apologize to Carl personally, and he said it was fine. Okay, 48 was a blip, and I cannot read that season. I think that's obvious.

Kyle, get off Shannon's neck, okay? Literally. I don't, I mean, I'm sorry. I saw him pointing at the Rob part of the Rob. I thought it was Rob. I didn't get that. Why didn't, I didn't get that? I think it was both.

Yeah, pork in all those dose. Hmm. Okay. Well, one thing that Kyle, you have to give your chizzy mug back, actually. There's something in the close of the chizzy mug that you're not allowed to use and help me. So, send it back to RHAP. Thank you so much.

Yeah. As a audio-only listener, I did not catch any strays coming towards Rob. So I'm not sure where you're getting that from. Pointing at the word, Rob, on a mug that said, Rob. I don't know what it. Taryn, am I tripping? No, Chappelle, my new alliance partner. I had to find an alliance partner quickly, you know. Yeah. One thing that Kyle did not get right was that Puyah would be making the draft order tonight.

We ran into a little bit of a time traveling predicament as we ended up doing the Survivor 50 draft recording that. If you're a patron of R.JP, you can go back and check that out. just like at the time that we did it, a lot of new people came on board since then. That is available for you on Patreon if you don't want to wait. But we decided that night that the Survivor 49 draft, because we did not know the, we would not know the, or did Pooia pick the order in that one?

Is that how that worked? Yes. Basically, I opted to use my order pick for the 50 draft. Okay. So we decided that Survivor 49 drafts would be, decided by random chance. And so we will bring out the trusty wheel, the same wheel that picked out the RHAP Reality Mafia yesterday, and we will use that to pick the draft order. So I'm assuming Sam Moore has this ready to go. And so let's go. Now let me just ask the

group here, do you want to go from six to one? Or do you want to go from one to six? first and then decide. I don't know mathematically speak, I don't we've done a lot of math already here. What's better? You know, I don't think it's six to one. Yeah, six to one, I agree. So actually, you know, that was my initial thought,

but then I kind of feel like that there will be more drama for the person who is like going to get the last pick on that last spin. So I kind of feel like that it creates more drama to do it that way. Because I feel like the person who gets one, won't be as excited as the person who gets six will be upset.

It makes sense to me, Rob. I get what you're talking about. I don't care. All right. So let's go ahead and spin the wheel for pick number one. Who will have the first pick in the Survivor 49?

Round and round. Here it goes. Of course, we are very excited to see. It's going to be Chappelle. Congratulations. That was entirely too close. What did you say? Congratulations, Chappelle.

I'm so used to giving and now it's my time to receive. Yes. All right. Chappelle gets pick number one for the draft. Okay, for pick number two. Is it steady with the wheel? We'll spin it again.

Of course, make sure you're subscribed to We Know Survivor for All Things Survivor this season as Leanna gets pick number two. If I was picking the order of Leanna, I probably would have put you in two or three. Okay. Of course. Yeah.

We like that. Your alliance is off to a great start. All right. Here we go. Pick number three. Let's see. It's going to be. There it is.

There it is. All three of my alliance made it to top role. All right. Let's go to pick number four. Puyah, Shannon, and Asia still on the wheel. And it's going to be, oh, Asia. Every time.

All right. Let's just check in here. Oh, man. All right. I thought we were doing six to once. I don't know why we switched up. I don't know why y'all switched up. I understood what you meant, if I get it. Yeah, all right.

So it comes down, it comes down now to, it's going to be either Asian or the Shandu or Puyah is going to get the last pick. Let's go. Let's go back. You were right. This is better for suspense. It's exciting, right? I sold the vision. All right.

Here we go. All right, 50-50 ball. Let's go. Who's getting the last pick? This is for the fifth pick, not for the sixth, just for the record. But the fifth pick is going to go to? Oh, I never get to win anything. I'm fifth.

So close. All right. This was perfect. All right. It works. All right. So it's a snake draft. It'll go, Shepout, Leana, Asia, Tarrant, Shannon, Puyah.

I think I was third, actually. Okay. yeah sorry about that sorry I thought we were I thought we were live updating this Asia was quietly willing to let that yeah she's like sure

yeah okay that being said is there anything else left to set up are we ready to draft let's go okay get it all right

Chappelle we are looking for the winner of Survivor 49 who you got so I did not expect and if I could just add If anybody wants, there are preview videos. Mike Bloom went to Fiji, interviewed all of these people.

Mike and I did a podcast previewing each and every one of the tribes. And so if you are just jumping into Survivor 49 coverage, there is so much for you to dig into if you want to know any more about these contestants. All right, Chappelle, the floor is yours. I put a lot of thought into this. And I really, I really enjoy Mike Bloom's interviews. I strongly recommend that. He's just so good with everybody. And so I normally go off of who is viking with Mike the most, normally, because I think I would be like that.

And so there were a few where I was like, this person really feels like they're giving it their awe and that they would like, they understand the game, their fans of the game. And then I started to think, Chappelle, what is your biggest kryptonite here in the draft? And it's that damn grenade. So I thought, who do I think is least likely? to get the grenade, banked off of the interviews, obviously. And so I, you know, watched all the videos. I've checked out the Parade articles and I've seen Rob and Mike talk about it. And I just don't see a world where Savannah is the first boot.

And so I'm going to go with Savannah. Okay. Good pick. Mm-hmm. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Okay.

So to me, Savannah had one of the best interviews. I loved her talking about. First of all, last time I had a chance to have a favorite for Asia season, since I couldn't pick Asia. I picked the glue guy. And Savannah kind of talks about how she's kind of one of those people as well. I think there's a couple others that really refer to themselves as like characters or players that are going to be able to connect a lot of people. She seems very personable. And she was just name dropping a lot of my faves that I would love to see, like, given an opportunity if she would ever to play again, like to see what she would do with those people.

She named like Rick Devon. She was naming Surrey. like the way she was just in her bag she named coach at one point I was like she knows all my faves a real student of the game my issue with her is that she's kind of small she's kind of small but aside from that I really enjoyed the energy that she brought

and so I'm very happy to be able to choose her first I can't hate the pick yeah she was born in Walnut Creek California I was born in Walnut Creek California so that's so specific Love it. I know. Weirdly creepy. And someone else lived in a town, grew up in a town that basically I grew up in. So anyway, it's all really weird. But the point is that I think that what Savannah has to is she's someone who had to communicate with a lot of different people through her profession as being a news reporter and being out there, being social. And that is just such a critical skill to survivor. Love the pick. So good. Thank you. She does have a pretty good pet peeve, I would say.

Ooh, what was that? Yes. When people who have the middle seat on a plane pressure you to trade your window slash aisle seat. Oh, yeah, boo. Oh, that is. Who has the nerve to do that? What is that? In a couple of like, can I sit with my kids or like I sit with my wife?

I mean, really, anytime for whatever reason, I think. Wait. When would that ever happen? in. For those exact reasons Rob just outlined. When, yeah, because then you wouldn't be,

no, but if I'm in the middle, they give you a window or an aisle to put you together, right? No, sometimes people like are traveling at like a group or something like that and they weren't able to get the seats together

or they bought the tickets separately. Sometimes they're just like, hey, family of four. I really have a lot of trouble in the middle. Would you mind? Yeah. No, if I have a trouble in the middle,

would you mind if what I'm thinking I could be clear. I've always seen the opposite. I've always seen either the window or the aisle person is the one. asking the middle person to move so that they have something that nobody wants to be in the middle. Right. Okay. People want the middle seat?

Who are you? If they can if you want to sit next to your person. Thank you, Asia. I'd rather stand than be in the middle. Make me a flight of you. You can see why it's a good pet peeve. Yeah. She was like number five on my list because of this pet peeve. If someone would say, I don't do

well in the middle and I would do it. Obviously, I would do it. But I'm just saying, like, as a people, pleaser but I thought like that would be like the most I would then complain about it for decades like I've never heard anything like that I don't think this is something that happens I think it's a bad pet peeve wow very rare just how good Savannah is as a pick that were reduced to only just arguing does she have a good enough pet peeve that I will say she gives so much confidence that like if

she were like on video chest up I think she's easily 5-11 Yeah. I was very surprised. Paul-girl energy. Yes. Yeah. T.G. I like rooting for fans. I do. I like rooting for people who can tell me about their survivor watching his. And that's okay. Everybody's not going to be a fan of the show. But I really do appreciate the people who kind of, I feel like we relate to them and that we've been in those trenches too. We remember the days. We remember the moments. And to me, she really stood out as a fan of of the show. And so I like rooting for people that are going to be fun for me to root for. And so

that's why I picked her. Okay. That's a good reason to do that. Any dissenting opinions from the panel? No. It truly, and I know that's a boring answer to say, but truly, just go, if you're not sold on Savannah,

watch your video with Mike Bloom or read the bio. It screams out to you, like, all the potential in the world. So. Can I just say, like, the videos with Mike, they're all so good that it makes it difficult because, like, I would finish one interview and be like, I'm sad that person. that interview is over. And then the next person would be as good.

And it really made things complicated for me. And I was like, damn you, Mike Bloom and you're insatiable chemistry with everyone. So I feel like it doesn't help because the bar is so, like everyone's clearing the bar. But it is a very fun cast and those interviews are amazing. So definitely check them out.

Okay. All right. Chappelle, anything else to add or are we ready to move on to pick number two? I just feel like when I draft, I like to draft my friends in my mind. And so whether you're the grenade or not, I have,

and I have a few grenade friends, okay? So I just like to feel good about my pick, and I don't think I can feel as great. Thank you to the wheel for giving me this gift. Okay. All right. Big gift. Let's go to Leanna for pick number two.

Yeah. Oh, man. This is really tough. I think for me, I'm going to go with somebody who I had the biggest 180 on from seeing the preview of season 49 to then hearing the Mike Bloom interviews. That is none other. You know his name. You've heard it spelled before. It is the one, the only, the Riz God.

Riz God. Okay. All right. A little bit of a surprise. Okay. Riz God goes number two. I'm surprised too. Regular Derek Jeter.

Here's the thing. Look, this is a guy who, like, he has confidence. I love it. I feel like it doesn't necessarily borderline on cocky, although potentially that could be an issue for him. But to me, the biggest personality trait that he has is perseverance. This is some guy who can go out and he can play Survivor not only once, but he could do it again and again and again.

And you know why? Because he's got that perseverance to be able to go out there and get the job done. And for that reason, as the elements, the weather, everything beats him down out there. I think that he can continue to play and do a good job in this game. I was very impressed with his level of maturity in his answers. You know, it really felt like he had to grow up at a very early age. And I appreciated him being able to say, no, like, I did this for my family. I'm going out here to live my dream.

But, like, you know, like he didn't come off as like, he's 25. And I feel like he, although he looks like he's about 25, I felt like his life experience had led me to believe that he had gone through a lot more. And so I think this is a great pick. I actually completely disagree. Is that okay? Please. Yeah. All right. We're thrilled.

What? I felt like everyone kept saying, all I kept hearing was like, oh, when you listen to Rillo's interview, the whole Rizgard thing is a lot less cringe. And then I listened and I was like, no, I still think it's really cringe. Like, he has a lot of life experience. He's lived way more life than me. I'm not taking that part away from him. And there's a lot of good stuff there. But in other parts, I felt like he did come across as really young.

And like, there were things like, he's like, I'm the biggest fan here. I'm like, you are the third interview I've listened to. And I think you might be the third biggest fan. Like, it's that kind of bravado that I think I had issues with. And I don't think I understand the Rizgaard thing still. Like, I don't think they're like, oh, you'll get it. And I'm like, I don't actually get it. So I get it.

Because I think the biggest thing for everyone, for a lot of people myself, let me just speak on me, who saw the preview was, oh, the Riz got yuck. He's really going that direction. But then you realize that the man had the nickname before the term Riz was even coined. So, yeah. His name is Rizzo. like a person who calls themselves Riz God whose name is like I'm trying to not offend anybody in our orbit of

what Gary I'm trying to think of somebody who would I'm Gary but you can call me Riz God okay I think that Call me God Gary Gary So to me, Shannon, the reason why it makes sense is that, you know, the way he explained it resonates with me. It's a, you know, you're trying to put confidence out there.

You're trying to convey confidence. And in order to do that, you almost have to give yourself a new identity to make that happen because you know the reality of who you are behind closed doors and you may not feel confident that way. But you're trying to present a confident version of you outside. So Risgod was his like, you know, this is like when Jeff Probst talks. about stepping into becoming island man or whatever that was? Survivor man. Survivor guy.

My thing is the correct way to build confidence is through competence, a wise man once said. Not through developing a whole new identity. No, okay. It's not even about that,

although the group's alter ego was also something we relentlessly made fun of. Rizgard seems very confident. Like, I don't get why that's necessary. I mean, I think he'll definitely be more like mild mannered to everyone else and they're not going to know, like, the Rizgaard persona.

Yeah, that's definitely didn't come away, like. But that's how it began. Exactly. It's his origin story. He's confident now because he was going to. He's not a superhero. Like, the fact that he gave himself a Monica, he needs an origin story. He's 25.

How do you know he's not a superhero? Yeah. If he's a superhero, then I take back everything. Rob, Rob, play the call clip again, Rob, please. Right, right. Right. Excuse me. I'm a tap your mug.

Hey, my tap your mug. This is blasphemous. I had an issue with his pet peeves. Yes. Please, Karen. It's pretty relevant, too. He says, as a fan of Survivor, people who make emotional or illogical decisions.

But he watches Big Brother. Okay. You could be annoyed at all those people. Just ask Taryn. Taryn, that was a good pet peeve for you or a bad pet peeve? This is a bad pet peeve to me, because who gets to decide what you determine is emotional or illogical, right? You know what I mean?

I just, I don't know what his judgment is. He should explain to me what it means to make an emotional, give me an example, perhaps, and then I can judge whether you're making an emotional and illogical judgment on somebody else's emotions and logic. But why do you get to judge that? Because he's tear god. Because I am the Taryn God.

Yeah. You're like, Riz wasn't a thing. It's like he had God. in the name as well like it's true the fact that he was straight to God yeah called the arm god we want to be greatly in survival like what's going on

okay anything else about Riz God goes number two no problem with the golden god and the king of the jungle and all the other but now can we draw the line at the Riz God

is he David is he is he the cockroach of Bankston Like, who, you got, you come from a world where everybody, every third character got a nickname. Riz God, come. He the first one we got with a nickname in so long. And now it's a problem. You sound like you're biased against Americans. Is there, did the world do something?

Do you do some, Aussie? I love Asia. She's from America. She's late after not American. I think it's a good pick. I don't hate the pick. I think a whole bunch of people made really quick. judgments by being annoyed by the quick preview we got. And then now it's getting to see him talk

more. Like, oh, he's not that bad. He seems pretty like a normal guy. So, normal as a Rizgod could be. Kind of like resets it. Okay. All right. So I was reviewing a lot of mock drafts earlier today. And a lot of the consensus was saying tonight's draft begins at three. You know, the first couple of picks, they were like, oh, it could be 50-50. We don't know. Taryn. The draft really opens up here at number three. Well, let me tell you this, Rob. If the wheel had deigned to choose me to go first, the round, the draft would have started at one

because I am not a coward and I don't care about the grenade. I have a number one pick on this board, and it is still on this board. And that pick is Jawan. Jawan. We love Jawan. Okay. Yes.

Yeah, we love Jawan. Taran chooses Jawan. That's what I'm saying. First of all, look at this pick. So real. All right. He said every single button. The top button.

That's that. He's from Caliiani. Mm-hmm. I can tell. His pet peeves, crunchy peanut butter. If you eat that around me, we can't be friends.

That's not a good pet peeve. That's a phenomenal pet peeve. Why? Because it's very. very specific and it's it's particularly judgy listen not everyone has to be friends if you eat crunchy peanut butter around joan sorry you're not his friend he also doesn't like people who talk loudly in a movie theater which is pretty obvious but fair taryn can i ask you about the pet peas thing like do you feel like that you know having such a like strong stance about a thing

is that something that you feel like informs how you play the game it it tells me how creative you are you know how how fluid how flexible your mind is because a pet peeve should be something unique to you it should be a pet of yours it should not be you know wow uh illogical people like nobody likes illogical people it should not be bullies nobody likes bullies it should be you can't be my friend if you eat crunchy peanut butter around me i'm not i'm not into it That's too crunchy for me. That's what I like about Joanne. I also liked his other stuff.

He spoke good. Taryn coming up with that on the fly, he was honestly so impressive. He spoke so good. He's like, um, he spoke the goodest even. He did. He really did.

For me, I have two thoughts about Joanne. The first, love his sense of humor. He made me laugh in listening to the interview with Mike. The one negative thing that I will say about him is when I watch the video, not in his voice, but in his body language, he looked nervous. And I get it, you're out there, you're on the first day. Of course, anybody would be nervous.

But then you watch some of the other contestants that come across with such confidence. And I just don't want that nervousness to reflect in him getting in his own head. So that is the only, like, slightly negative thing that I would have to say about Joanne. Otherwise, he would be so much fun to be out there on the island. But he rehearsed.

He did a practice interview with a Mike Bloom impersonator. He did. Yeah, but meeting Mike, woman person was a little unnerving. Yeah, that's, I remember my first Mike Bloom in the direction and it was nerve wrecking. I can't lie. I like Juan. We, I have met this man before, Rob.

Yes, where? We had a costume contest at the RHAP live show in Brea. Yes. And we were supposed to be survivor themed and someone got on stage with an alien that was grabbing them around their waist. And I was like, that's not survival-related. And it was

Juwan Pitts. Wow. Okay. I didn't know. So yeah, I think we did that on the big, did we do that on the Big Brother night or did it both? I think we did it both nights. Yeah, I think we did it both nights. And I was like, what are you? And he's like, an alien. I was like, but that's not. So off the strength of that this man is a hard and he's fed and enough to come to a live show and even participate in a costume contest, I cannot root against this man. I hope he does

will. Okay. Was anybody lower than top three on Jawan? I'm really high on him Top three is so high I love Joanne I just feel like this cast has some people that I really like but maybe aren't as sensible picks

I'm also very burned from absolutely misreading 48 if you didn't see Carl's video so I don't know if I just really like him or if I think he can win but he's great he watches Australian Survivor he's seen all the guards already

so maybe he's ready for Risgard like he has such a great inbuilt connection with Nate I think who I also really like like I want him to win and go far. I think that's a great season. Do I think he can? I feel like that's different.

I don't know, but I love him. Now, I'm a little nervous that Puyah has gone off camera. I believe this was what happened when Shaheen got picked last season. Was this, did Taryn snipe Jawan from you, Puyah? No, no, I have a hope that will work out. We'll see. No, I had to excuse myself. No, no, no need to say.

I just wanted to make sure. I just wanted to make sure that, yeah, look, I'm, I want to make sure everybody is doing okay during the draft, okay? Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no punching air for me. We're doing. All right. Okay, any other thoughts on Joanne? Excited for him, honestly.

And I hope he, hope he has a very fulfilling experience. Yeah, he seemed somebody that, like, he's going to be very enthusiastic about me in there, and I just love that energy. I just felt like we'd be friends. Yeah. Yeah. I am concerned about him more because of his tribe, less about him. I have an issue with the tribe, but we'll talk about it when it comes up.

That'll do it to you. Because I think all three people are from the same tribe, right? That also with Nate, who is it? And then Shannon. Shannon. Well, that's not great. Yeah. Yeah.

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Okay. So. A risk. Shannon don't get one of them if you don't do what you're saying. what you need to do. I know what you're about to do, but if you don't do what you need to do, I don't know if you do.

Are you picking a strong guy? All right, for my first pick, I'm going to go with MC. Yes, Leanna. That's the Angel Leanna from every season.

It's fine. It's fine. She's only amazing. It's fine. It's fine. that's not good damn so MC

very excited about her very excited to watch her play this is personal for me because season 47 episode 3 was her very first episode of Survivor I was like

dang girl that you started love that for you hate that for me but outside of that I think I could just relate to her in so many ways, love the locks. We both had that orange going on. She is very into fitness. She just seems like a very likable person. I think there's going to be no issue getting along with the people on her tribe. And I do think that is a benefit of her being a newer fan because she's not going to be caught up and trying to recreate anything. It's going to be more of like a fresher experience. I'm just, I get great energy from her and just like, just this fresh perspective.

I mean, and not just you. Like, so many people on the cast felt that way about her. And we've seen time and time again that play out where those ponderosa feelings seep into the game. I just think she's set up super well. And I think it's a benefit that she was an alternate. And, like, she didn't have to be all nervous all week. you know, it's just one of those things where it's just like, oh, well, maybe I will, maybe

I won't, and then it's like, oh, shoot, okay, now that I'm about to play, now let's get going. And so she didn't have to play those mental gymnastics that everybody else is playing all week, trying to figure out, oh, is this person on my tribe? Is this person on my tribe? And so I think that'll help her too.

Okay, she's coming in Lucy, Goosey. Considering my recent diatribe on pet peeves because her pet peeve the bullies. Bullies. No, no. Knock it off. To be fair, though, she did, she did elevate it slightly because she said bullies are whack,

which is way better than just saying bullies. I agree. Exactly. Okay. Let me ask the question this way. Did anybody not have MC as a first round draft pick? Well, yeah, because she said bullies. I don't know.

Yeah, I wasn't probably, I don't know. I didn't have a great sense of it. I did not have her as my first round draft pick. What? Yeah. That's whack. That is whack. That is whack. Definitely a second round. Definitely second round. I mean, I showed y'all who my first pick was.

But for me, the thing with MC is that she's such a recent fan. And she's like, I kind of watch some of the seasons. I'm like, MC, come on, man. I just don't, I feel like the more prepared you come in, the better. I know that there are people like, well, you can come in. Yes, you can. There are various, you know, like outcomes for different people in different ranges of how they're going to do on the show. but I really do think that like I would have liked her to be a little bit more prepared for the game as far as like knowing the iterations of Survivor because knowing it definitely knowing what you could be up against I don't think it's harmful I know some people will say you can overprepared which is probably true but I really do wish they're like I knew that she had watched all the seasons or at least took a lot more time to analyze it because it really does feel like a like she saw it she thought I can do this she went and looked at it she's okay I got it and I'm like okay I hope that works out for you but have Had she done a little bit more research, I think she would have been easily one, my first pick.

I just feel like I had other people above her. Like, it wasn't anything about her, but it just, again, there were too many good interviews, but I still think it's a solid pick. She's not called MC God, so. I think it's interesting, too, that she's the youngest person on her tribe, and she's 29. So I think that gives that tribe a different type of, like, culture. They ain't got old chapels. I'm older than the most of them. I'm like the second oldest person on that tribes.

I'm just talking. Don't mind me. But that might be a historical. Maybe we get Rob's fact checker on this. Is that the youngest person to or the oldest person to ever be the youngest person on a tribe? Probably. It's a fun stuff to check out. Yeah.

Sounds like it could be true. Well, what about the older person? I guess so. It was the other old tribes. Even then it was the young. youngest person in the old woman tribe was 32. Yeah. Yeah.

Especially a young woman tribe, but everybody else would have been on an old-ass tribe. Yeah. Okay. Anything else about MC? No, I think it's a great pick. Okay. Agila approves.

Yeah. Okay. All right. Let's go back to Shannon. Shannon. Pick number five. I think Risgaud is in the chat. I think I'm going to get

Flamed by two players Focus on your on your draft Don't worry about the Don't even get in your head Shannon Just Risgod I love the nickname

especially That's my favorite part Um Okay Don't call Shannon cringe Okay I didn't say cringe They said cringe

Even if we're all thinking it I was quoting I was quoting the fans Anyway Let's go to my pick Let's do that I was listening, finishing up the interviews last night. And I was like, they're just so good.

Can the street continue? And I got to the last interview, which was Stephen. And I thought, oh, this guy's great. This is like a nerd. I love a nerd, you know? Will I pick a nerd? I don't know, but I have an affinity. Yeah.

But then, and I'd never seen pictures of these people ever. And then after the interviews, I went out and looked at pictures, and I thought, oh, he's a strong guy. And I'm 35? I didn't expect that. So I'm going to pick him because he's like a, he's a rocket scientist, strong guy. Pooja is quietly celebrating. You just wait till I talk about my picks.

It's going to be great. Okay. All right. Let's talk about Stephen. Stephen. Woo! I got a great vibe with him. Shannon's draft going to the moon.

To the moon. Yeah. Yeah. Do we not, don't we agree? He's not going to be the first boot from his tribe. They need him physically. He's smart, but I think maybe he can hide it a bit. No, he wants to play like a Charlie game. Charlie won the draft for Rob. Like, it's good. I'm surprised. I feel like that the panel does seem a little quiet. Are you all no-selling Shannon's pick or are there concerns about Stephen? He wasn't high on my list. I don't know what it was. just didn't like yeah okay yeah he's a rocket scientist that's rare but nothing else really stood out to me i'm sure he's great this is literally a shenia twain song with like like this is what this was made for oh so he's a rocket scientist yeah that's impressive yes i um i had it

like my third tier so so far one of my first tiers have gone off in two of my second tier but this is my first and third tier and the reason why i think he might have to pay the the Charlie tax. I think Charlie got away with being like the normal guy on the tribe that people kind of underestimated and didn't really think too much. And they just watched that season.

A lot of them were talking about Kenzie's win and whether or not the winner deserves it and this another. There was a couple name drops of Charlie in the interviews. He even said it himself. And I do think where a Charlie could probably slip under the radar in a tribe

with crazy people. No disrespect. Banu and Q, but y'all know. But like those like those people or who you can, like, hide behind. Charlie wasn't, he didn't have to deal with that. We never met any of the people in the game. Yeah, he didn't have to deal with that.

But those are, like, those are crazy people that you can hide behind. Charlie, Charlie gets to the merge, and it's like, oh, he's surrounded by insane people. So it was very easy for, I think, for him to just, like, slide into a good spot. I think Stephen might be looked at as a Charlie, and people are going to want to get rid of him before it's too late. It's not that similar to Charlie. You know, he's just a guy. He said it himself. He said, Charlie, I'm going with it.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. So, I mean, I don't necessarily see immediately the comparisons to Charlie, but I think we'll see it play out on the island. I think he's somebody who tried to push himself outside of his comfort zone. For me, the biggest thing, this is the person who grew up pretty much in the town that I grew up in. I need to know what high school he went to before I make my formal opinions on this man, because I'm either going to love him or I'm going to side eye him, depending on where he went on. You know all these people. So there was somebody that was, Savannah was born in the same town as you.

And Stephen, he went to the same high school that you went to? Potentially. He either went to Heritage Littleton or Rappahoe and I don't know which one and it matters. So we talked about, this came up on The Pal this week and I did shoot him a DM because Leanna was too scared to. And the man aired me.

So I got. We still don't know. I asked Mike Bloom. No answer. Mike didn't know. So Stephen, if you're listening. Let me see if he did see it. I don't know. If he left you on scene, I feel like,

that's a completely different thing. Oh, then maybe. No, as someone whose reputation is that I don't reply to people's messages, I do get pretty incredulous when others. You can turn that off too. I think I'm an assent Tuesday, not seen. So maybe it's seen. That's not his fault.

So he's not like being mean about it. So I'm reserving judgment till I know. Okay. Taryn, can we get a pet peeve check on Stephen? He had some pretty boring ones, but he does manage to when strangers DM him. you know maybe but

moon landing deniers was his best pet peeve okay so very specific to him I like it specific to him yeah

yeah okay well everyone made me feel so bad about this pick but I stand by it and he's not

he's not Steve God but if he was it would be fine I don't think it's a bad pick I just am concerned like I said he's not in my he's not in my lowest tier

I will say that Oh, thank you so much, Chappelle. That's so kind of you to say that. You're welcome. Oh, my God. You're welcome. You're welcome. Shannon, I was a little surprised by the lack of enthusiasm from the panel.

Thanks, you're all. Yeah, I don't see a real downside with Stephen. Thank you so much. Thank you. I think that they really like being mean to me. And then my picks, like, they're mean to the picks. And that's not even fair because it's not Steven's fault. We didn't say anything.

We have a great guy. We have celebrated some of your picks in the past. Like, this is not. like let's not make it seem like we always do not because just to speak to Chappelle's concerns I don't remember if we were that concerned about Charlie himself going back in the Survivor 50

draft. We also weren't very high on Charlie. Yeah, Shannon drafted him because he was a Swifty. It was, it's the year of the name but it wasn't just that. It wasn't just that. But it played a big part. Had Stephen said, yeah, okay, so I'm just saying this is not abnormal to Stephen

it's this is our brand for shannon okay puya can you DM stephen off if he's a swiftie oh because i'm clearly getting responses from the man yeah if you're our bad respondent now that'll push dude okay puya when Shannon picked stephen you had a big reaction as if the person that you really wanted has fallen to you yeah yeah i feel like you know i felt this way last season with the 48 draft where I got a lower pick, but it worked out ultimately when I got the players I got. I feel somewhat similarly here. Now, to be very transparent, I met 95% of this cast today cramming for this draft. I have not.

Oh, I was going to. Yeah. Yeah, I've been, I've been, listen, life's been busy. However, there was some choices made. There was some rankings done. And then there was a name that stood out to me, Rob. And I don't mean a name of a contestant. I mean a team name, a draft team name.

Because with my next two picks, I'm going to tell you both picks, we are team So Fresh and Sophie over here. I'm picking both the Sophies. No! Okay. No. That's bad. Why?

You're only allowed to have one Sophie. Back of him back. No, no, no. Fresh and Sophie. You can't pick both Sophie. Okay. One Sophie. For the sake of discussion, which Sophie.

are you picking first? Sophie Belaherty will be the first of the two picks. Okay. Man out of here, man. Okay. Sophie A or Sophie B? Okay. It's actually Sophie B.

I know. I know. You got, Rob. Read a bio. All right. Sophie, uh,

Sophie Belererty. Let's talk about her first. Okay. This is pick number six in our draft. And I almost want to open the, the floodgates here, Rob, by giving the,

Mike to everyone else, because the reactions I'm getting, I want to know why they feel this way. The selfies are both iconic in different ways. Both of them are. Both of them are. Sophie B, first of all, I think she's probably like one of the most likable people just off of their interview alone. She sounded amazing talking to Mike for sure. She sounds so personal. She gets the game.

I loved her stories that she told about her granny. You know, y'all know how I am about my granny. So, you know, like I definitely got that. she's like talking about like how basically like she's like oh yeah probably in that D archetype and D is a beast you know like a reality TV superstar all around there's not there's not anything to dislike about Sophie as like personality wise or in her bio it was so much fun I forgot I was listening to interviews I just it felt like I was listening to a podcast just a vibes pod it was so much fun I was loving every bit of it and you know I'm I'm a sucker for vibes so already on that count we were off the charts Both of you are iconic. Both of them. She is very interesting pet peeves. First, I want to give you a very relevant one.

People who don't return their shopping carts. It's interesting, but we're going to come back to it. The other one was very interesting to me because she said, men with Peter Pan syndrome, get off the dating apps and stop terrorizing my beautiful single friends. I thought you were going to say men with Peter Pan peanut butter. I thought we were going to really be locked in on the peanut butter. Let me tell you, I Googled Peter Pan Syndrome. I still don't fully understand what she's talking about.

Really? Men who won't grow up. Yeah. Yeah. Have you seen he to pan, Taryn? But what does that have to do with dating apps? Because they'll be like a rising single friend. 45 hitting on 22-year-olds on the dating apps.

Exactly. Well, that's a really good guy he's in. Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah, I think you could just mean people that are immature, no matter what their age is. Yeah. Well, that too. Yeah. Yeah.

They, there's a thing about this, Karen. Charlie could tell you and maybe Stephen if he gets back to Puyo, we'll know. Did you want to go back to shopping carts? Oh, we're coming back to it later, don't worry. Okay. Later.

All right. Anything else about Sophie B? I like that video she put on Instagram about her telling her family. It came up in my like, real. That made me root for her. Everyone was so excited for her. Like, this is a person who has a lot of love in her life.

she was not my preferred Sophie but that's a very high bar like they're both good pigs oh she's talking about people like Vince yes there you go the big brother terms yeah I did see Sophie also I don't remember if it was her

D who posted it they had a cute little TikTok together which I thought was really adorable she just like screams fun and energy so I just don't see how she's not going to be a social powerhouse out there. She's also on a starting tribe with Jake, who she wants to align with as her meat shield. So it seems like the stars are in alignment for her

in the starting tribe format. She has such a clear strategy. It was so cool to hear it. I'm sorry, Shannon. No, I think I saw a reel of her and D together. All of her reels are really hitting my over. Didn't she just say that? Are you not?

Oh, sorry. That's fine. Shannon, there's a, never mind. I just saw her having a strategy. She identified that the big guy is who she wants to latch on to. She's like, that's the type of person that I want to, like, drive through the game. She's so much fun. I'm sorry.

It was just like watching her talk was like Puyi said it. It was kind of cool. Leanna just said that as well. I know. I'm agreeing. Leanna, your mic is muted. No. No, Shannon wasn't listening.

I am agreeing with Leanna. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. But no. No notes. Great. pick. Oh, I know why I didn't pick her first. She's small. I'm concerned.

What is what you? I didn't. Well, Asia, sometimes being smaller on Survivor, it doesn't really work out for you. Now does it? And how tall is Savannah again? Hold on. Let me just go back and they're both small. And that's what I said. Like, I had to choose one of them. But she was so, she was so tiny. And I was like, you had no other choice. You had no other choice. Yeah. To me, personality wise, they were standouts and I got some words for the other Sophie as well but I looked at her tribe and I was just like I just oh I really hate that like

I know she wants to latch on to the big guy but if he's one of those big guys are like I don't want little people around they're bad at the game blah blah blah blah challenges blah blah blah like I feel like she's an easy scapego for that and so I don't like that I have a lot of feelings about this pick

I like yeah I think she's going to be really good socially Pia I'm just kidding I was just trying to pick apart what something else Leanna said Thank you, I appreciate that. Did you see that she did a video with D? Oh, it didn't. Which I saw. Thank you.

It was very good. Leanna's villain arc is about to begin. Where was this video? Yeah, it's online. TikTok. Well, maybe Instagram, too. Yeah. All right.

Napuya, Sophie S. Now, was this just for the branding? Or was Sophie S somebody that you also felt very good? about you could make the argument sometimes that when branding is available you go for it but in the reality no this is the both of them very high on my list um i feel like and you know this might have to be studied this might be a puritium video of the future this might be a podcast of the future alternates and how they do on the show because we've got sophy who was an alternate for 48 and then boom back on the island ready to go for 49 i loved what she said about

working on, you know, I worked on the physical, I worked on the mental and the in between between the two seasons. I feel like having that level of preparation is good. I feel I, then aside from that, I did enjoy, again, vibes there. I feel like there's a level of preparation you get being an alternate. You've gone through the whole process twice. You're kind of in a position where you're like, hmm, I didn't get it, but when I get it, I'm not going to miss that opportunity. I'm going to make the most of it. And I like that. Yeah. I mean, look at my season. Rachel wins Tiana

was just one away from the murder away from jury Shaheen did well I feel like it really helps put you in the mindset and get you past one level of

you know that pregame that is the unknown like if you get the once you've sat in pregame that's one less thing to worry about when you come back again so you're even more prepared for the game

she definitely was in my top three. She definitely would have been my third pick. But she's great. Not that that says anything. I don't think it's like, oh, just not the grenade. I think she's going to do really well. I like that she is a women's basketball fan that speaks highly to me. But I just really liked her. Well, she even specifically mentions because she went out as the alternate for 48 that she kept doing the physical stuff, but then also realize like, oh, you know what? Here's an area that I'm lacking, which is the sort of mental fortitude part of that. And then spent a whole other year, not only keeping up with the physical stuff, but also

then preparing for the mental side of things. I think she accurately read how her cast is very different from 48. She talked about that in the interview with Mike. I just feel like there are so many green flags with Sophie here. I'm really optimistic about our chances. Green flags and green lights. I think that she's a real go-getter, according to her pet peeves, at least. She doesn't like slow walkers, which is always a good one.

She also doesn't like restaurants that make you wait for your whole party to sit. Ooh, that's a good way. She just wants to get where she's going quickly. Yeah, your bias because it's your pet peeve, but it's like a bully level obvious pet peeve. No, not everyone hates slow walkers. So many people say it. Yeah, yuck. Rob's Jack check to get on how many people have said that as a pet peeve.

It would be up there with movies. Yeah, because it's yours. Maybe your pet peeve. Just because it's universally a great pet peeve, I think. Like bullies, then. That's not a pet peeve. Why? It's not a pet.

It's too big for a pet. That's like an elephant peeve. You don't have a pet elephant. All right, let's get it back to Sophie. Yeah, Rob brings back. We're losing the plot a little bit here, okay? Is there anybody that has a concern about Sophie? No.

universally no concerns whatsoever i'm surprised she got the puya number seven rob we're doing it again rob i was between her and stephen um she's very rachel coded and like rachel's my only draft winner so far and i feel like she did all the boxes but like it was well she have to pay a rachel invoice like stephen might have to for being a charlie no because she's puya's pick not mine. It's different. Yeah, Rachel won more recently Charlie didn't even win,

but because it's Pooia's pick, I think everyone's okay with that clear similarity of an alternate who. Yeah, but I mean, that she's on the tribe with the other two alternates, the two alternates who got onto the season,

which I think is something that's in her favor. I wonder if, because typically I think you probably wouldn't want to tell people if you were an alternate in the past, right? Like, Asia, did Tiana tell people?

No, we didn't know until Fonderosa. Yeah, but she might tell the other alternates and I wonder if that secret could get out to the other people of like, hey, this isn't my first time in Fiji. So alternate alliance would be nice. That would be fun. Could be.

I don't have anything negative to say about her. She would have been very high on my pick. I'm very surprised that she fell so long. I'm shocked that Shannon did what she did. I'm very shocked. Asia did what she did. I really thought Asia was going to pick her. But I knew Asia was going to pick one of those two people.

I think that even Sophie's saying that, that MC is somebody that she was vibing with pregame. She's like, yeah, I'm already getting good vibes from MC. Like, well, funny that you say that because y'all are going to be on the same tribe. And I think that is going to be very beneficial for her, especially because MC set the same thing. Like, oh, yeah, I'm already vibing with it. Like, it's like they both, they sat next to each other one time and they could feel the energy of like, this is going to be a good thing.

And I guess, Asia, you can speak to that more. In the preseason, do you feel like you get like a really good vibe off of certain people versus other people? Like, I know you answered this question for Mike, but what was your experience like yeah and i was kind of i was careful about initials because the whole um bearded man of it all like i was like i don't know who the alternates are so i don't want to go on and on about somebody that's an alternate um because i truly didn't know who the alternates were until we took our cast photo which is like towards the end of the process or like towards the end of pregame so i got great vibes about saul got great vibes about teeny um there there were there was

something that happened with uh not something that happened but a specific thing that happened rachel and tiana was kind of obvious that they knew we're not too obvious but in hindsight it was like oh that was weird because the rest of us were very confused um so it was like oh if we had like read into that we would know that they had been there before um but yeah it's very used like they knew their way around ponderosa right like yeah basically um And so, yeah, I think, unlike, I mean, there are people like Gabe who intentionally tried to make a bad impression. So it was kind of like reading the 48 laws of power or whatever. Like, we all like, okay.

Why did he do that? I don't know. I think he- What law is that? The book? Yeah, no. What laws it make people hate you? He's a homosexuals in that chapter.

I think he was just trying to get like such a wrong impression so that when we did meet him were like, oh, this is not like, he didn't want people to have like an actual good read on who he was. So, yeah, I would say, like, my impression on people were accurate for the most part. Like, I knew who I could gravitate towards and that you can kind of get that sense of just sitting around nonverbally. Asia, has the 47 alternates popped up yet? Have we, have they played yet on any, on 48 or 49?

on 49. Yes. Yes. So, okay. So Sophie was the alternate for your season? No, she was the alternate for 48. Okay. So who is the alternate from 47?

She's being coy. Yeah. Why didn't Mike say it? It's not, it's not publicly known? It is publicly known. I just, I mean. Okay.

Yeah. My bad. I just thought, I just thought it was, we were she got another pick rock oh okay okay i don't i don't remember who it is but i don't think i'm picking that person because i don't okay sorry i wasn't trying to throw you throw off your draft strategy i was just curious okay oh was it sage all right let's go to shannon oh that makes me want to pick sage shannon she was next on my list for what it's worth yeah all the a lot of the asses not all the s's are good picks oh they make me want to pick sage it's

Is it sage? This actually really was unfair to Asia. Because now I'm really considering it. I think that's Rob Swart. No. There was just so many alternates. It was just hard to keep track. I don't know.

I was going to Sophie S. Next, so I'm kind of torn. It's like I feel like sage is a very like solid pick. And I feel like I'm going to be left only with someone, obviously. Like I'm not going to get any of the people I want. So I'm like, should I go with someone? I really just like love. who just seems like a sparkly person but is maybe more of a grenade risk or should I go with

someone really solid who was possibly the 47 alternate wasn't sage can you know an alliance chanan you made an alliance yeah i wasn't saying that i was going to pick that person i was just saying i had more information about whoever that person was for whenever that person is picked right right and we have an alliance but i i don't want to see the alliance end so quickly yeah i'm very high on stage. Like, she's someone I'm already thinking about anyway. Okay, whatever. Who cares? Just a draft. Can't go worse than last time. I'll pick Christina.

Okay. And I'll tell you why. Because I love her. Yeah. Because she's sparkly. She's great. She's just great. Say her name. Like, I don't know if it's the smart pick. Like, I don't know if it, you know, it ticks

all the boxes, but I just love her. Say the name, Shannon. Say it. Chris God? No. No, no. Come on, Shannon.

You can say it. Say the name. I don't know what you're talking about. Everybody in their name mama then compared this lady to Surrey. Yeah, that's the three God. I mean, that's too, like, no one should put that pressure on Christina. She's great in her own right, you know? She compared herself to Sarie.

Everybody compared her to Marie. That's tough. Like, no one's three. You know, no one in the world is three. But Christina's, Christina's amazing.

She had such a great bubbly personality in her interview. I just liked her so much. I mean, if the cast liked her half as much as I did, she's won the game.

So I'm just going with my sparkly person pick and I think it's Christina. Hey, Shannon, you know what are Pep, Pivas? Slow Walker's because that's

probably the bet. No, it's bullies. No. As generic a pick is Blow, She also doesn't like it if people swore on their loved ones. No, she's not a fan of that.

That's my parrogative is a juror. I love the pick. She definitely was high up for me. She's from Houston. Love that. Also, MC is from Dallas area. So love that. Come on, Texas.

I see y'all. But yeah, Christina seems like somebody that's just going to be, like, bring some, like, levity to the tribe. Like, I can see her getting along with different. types of personalities and just being an easy person to talk to. So she had a really interesting answer to the question Mike asked about how do you prepare, right? Because everybody else talks about, oh, it worked out. I did puzzles. I cut out caffeine, blah, blah, blah. Her answer was, I made sure that my loved ones were prepared for me to leave.

Like her preparation, she took into account more about the other people around her and her family members than she did about herself not i mean she did prepare right she talks about going to the gym and those kinds of things but that type of loving other people supporting other people mentality i think that she will make it deep because she's going to be considering others but will she then have that cutthroateness to get her to those those final chairs right like can she set on those stumps will she be able to have that you know a little bit of evilness that you have to have you know in order to get to the end so that's my hesitation for her because she just, yes, she just is such a sparkly person. And I just don't see how anybody who interacts with her doesn't smile and walk away from the conversation feeling

better. Everybody seemed to be drawn to her in the pregame. Like it was like every time you go to somebody, they're like, this is this lady with long braid. She's just really nice. And that's really good, a good vibe. People want to play with her and they don't even know her. And so like, imagine when they actually get on the beach with her, I feel like they're never going to want to vote her out. Now, don't get me wrong. In Survivor, you don't have to want somebody out for them to get out. There's a ton of reasons why you can get voted out in Survivor, and I see one of those is probably going to be her downfall if there is one. But, yeah, like, I'm like, I'm with Leano this one. You know, does she have what it takes to, you know, Surrey? I don't think Surrey knew

was Surrey before she found out that she won. I think she didn't. I don't know. I don't think when Surrey got on Survivor, she thought, like, I'm about, I'm about to be one of the most legendary strategist whoever lived. I think she knew she was three, though. She knew she knew she knew her name, but I don't think she knew that she would be the legacy that she has. And I think Christina might have it in there, but it's like Shannon said, it's a very steep claim to make. And so I think socially

she might be seri, but let's see if she has the strategic chops. She doesn't have to be three. It's fine. She can win the game and not be three. But it would be so nice. Yes, did it have two series? Yes, that would be wonderful. She doesn't need to be three. I'm not asking her to be three. I'm asking her to win for my draft and not be grenaded. That's it.

She gives like warm. And that's just like not a quality that you can just like manufacture or you're like oh before going on survivor i became warm you know it's just like it's just inner so it's gonna be very easy to like be herself okay we like this pick that anything else on christina correct yeah i like to speak better yeah i agree all right so it works out okay all right so let's go to asia who i almost screwed Asia's whole draft not since yesterday

when I screwed up mafia that I felt so bad it worked out Rob it worked out okay god goodness oh Rob yes it got so hot over here

all of a sudden I was just like I didn't know how to get myself out of that but luckily it was your ally who wasn't yeah it was a good test of your lion yeah a good test very very worth that trip to my pie yes my podcast spouse.

Okay. So I am picking with my second pick, which my first and second, they could have been interchangeable, but I was just like, okay, I got to go with who I don't think Shannon and Puyah would pick.

And so I'm going to go with the 47 alternate Sage. Oh, wow. Okay. Shocking. Surprise, surprise. You were just saying that you just had something to say about her

when her time came up, not that you were going to pick, though. Right. Yeah. So this is a season of there are many alternates. I had forgotten Sage was the, I really did forget. I was not just trying to put my finger on the draft. Okay.

So, Asia, what can you tell us about Sage? Oh, my gosh. I will tell you, before we get into her stats, that Sage was the person I connected with the most preseason for 47. We somehow got the same We were on the same bathroom schedule So like it was

It just was almost like Not that you have a bathroom schedule But it's just like We were working in the same kind of system Because every time I was going to the bathroom She was coming out And we'd be like, we'd smile We'd just like hey

Hey Hey and it was like okay This is good Like she's so nice She's so like You know I think that We were just building a connection

in that way. And then, yeah. Will you be my number one? Right. Or my number two? We just had very positive interactions. And I feel like I had the most with her. And I do think that maybe more people can,

more people felt that way about Sage as well. So I was just like crushed when I found out that Sage was the alternate. Like when we took our cast photo and I was like, no. the one person so um so that says a lot like nonverbally she gives off great energy um so she came off very sage would have been such a great alliance oh how cute um and so yeah sage is sage has a military background uh just trying to find out her age she's 30 um and very i think a lot of of people hung on to the like collecting pimples thing

but that's just a quirk but what yeah she's got a jar she kids like black heads in a jar did she say that to Mike no I think that was in her CBS short yeah it was in her CBS video right yeah because I didn't know that until today

yeah we like her Sage and I both made like finals for Big Brother, like, I think that we just, we were just here, and I didn't even know that, obviously, but she plans to play like Marianne. Love Marianne, right? A lot of people said Marianne. So, well, it only stood out to me when she said it. You all love Marianne. Wait, how does one collect compools in a jar? Like, what does that mean? She said specifically blackheads. Ew.

That changes a lot. No. But listen, this, we've been talking about alternates a lot, right? So the statement still stands true that she had already experienced pregame before going out there. So that was one less thing she had to worry about to come in the game even more prepared, you know, a year later. So I have high hopes. Okay. She was going to be my next pick. She's got some good pet peeves.

And it's a little bit of a journey. So this is pet peeve number one, very broadly speaking, the patriarchy. Pet peeve number two. Speak on it. Elephant peeve. People who instantly roll their eyes at me saying the patriarchy. Ooh, now we're cooking. Pet peeve number three.

People who don't put away their shopping carts. Oh my God. That's game. That was what. Okay. But now I don't remember who the third. The first person who said it was. Sophie.

Sophie. Sophie. See, I've heard some pushback on the shopping cart thing. I feel like that I've heard people say like, hey, well, hold on. Why do I have to put so much pressure on? Sometimes I have my kid in the car. Now I got to go walk across the parking lot so I don't get shamed for not putting my shopping card away.

Yes. Yeah, we would have been abandoned in the parking lot. Someone else could bump into it. Yeah. So all of a sudden, we're on the side of. of the big corporate shopping supermarket? No, the other customers, Rob.

No, you grab it, you put it back. Right. That seems like common courtesy. I pushed the card over here. Make everybody put a quarter in like at Aldi. This is a crazy way to find. That sounds like to support the patriarchy like this, Rob. Right.

Yeah, it's crazy that you would do that in front of us and Sage. Um, yeah, like Taryn, Sage was in my next pick category. Because basically once Asia, your first pick was happening, I thought, okay, as long as Asia doesn't pick Sophie, I should be good. But if Asia picks Sophie, so Sage and Sophie is still happening. Like, that name is still there. I really enjoyed her. She was a lot of fun also. And also, again, the alternate thing for me does yell.

Like, this is always a good thing at this point for me, being an alternate. So, easy pick. Why do you love alternate so much? I feel like if you two reasons, Shannon, alternates recently, studies have shown that alternates are doing well. I brought this point up earlier, so you may not have been listening. Yes, guys. I, one, one alternate is one. Okay.

And how many of them have gone the distance in the recent memory? What are the rules of the draft? Are you talking to the two-time winner with your awful 48? Are you talking to the person? Are you talking to the person with the best of average? Get her again. Shannon. Yeah.

Don't you disrespect me and my accolades now? I thought we cared about average dress. Exactly, Asia. That's what I'm saying. We got that too. Wack and all the crowns. Asia, get your own lines.

Asia, get your own lines. She's getting out of control. I just, I feel when I, see, for me, the other being hard on her.

Well, I feel like I was making my point that she do-dood it. I can't do-du-Bef. Do-D-D-D-Back. I don't want to use the other word. It's too much. Frankly, guys, I think that we should all just get along

and nobody should fight, okay? Remember when Rob doesn't put a shopping cart back? Let's talk about that a little bit. I do put my shopping cart back. Oh, yeah. Oh, now you do. I'm just trying to enjoy my draft. Where's your hat?

okay all right we're halfway there nine picks down nine to go who's going in the back half of the survivor 49 draft taren your second round pick is up all right i still have a pretty good one here my second round pick is matt okay yes yes yes matt yes matt who has a pet peeve of listening to someone incorporate texting shorthand into a verbal conversation. OMG, L-O-L-L-L. This was a Survivor episode. I just like that he gave me examples. I thought it was funny.

Lomfow. Good pet peeve. Seems like a cool guy. Seems like, it seems like, uh, it seems like, uh, it seems like, uh, dad, please, you know what I mean? Dad? Yeah, like I could just imagine him being like, you know, oh, kids these days with their texting shorthands.

Well, oh, what, you should say, oh my God. You know, not OMG. I'm going to start laughing by laughing out loud. That is a pet peeve if I've ever heard of one. laugh out loud well I actually really really like Matt a lot

like I just really loved his interview I feel like he his energy maybe like just Matt and I are going to be the only ones vibing but I would vibe with Matt I feel like he's got that funny old guy thing on lock

which is crazy I mean he just I think also for him having the finance back and then like completely switching careers, doing something that is a very physical job. I just, and then plus the personality on top of that, I just, I really, really like Matt. He just has so many kind of like these little

intangible energy things that are, I'm just drawn to Matt. I don't know why. Wow, great pick. Great pick. That's good. I like Matt a lot. I feel like as a bit of an age outlier, like that's not. the best just statistically I did a podcast on like basically statistical winners and with

Survivor fact checker and I feel like now that's kind of in my head but I do think like I really liked him I just feel like again like he's more like a fun pick he's like you know what I mean but I think he's great he is fun yeah it's a fun it's a fun pick it's a fun yeah don't hate fun is Is anybody lower than consensus on Matt? I like Matt a lot, but I think strategy-wise, I didn't get a lot from him. Like, I understood what he was saying with, like, he wants to be, like, unassuming and stuff like that. And I really think he is. But if anybody, like, if there's, like, a close avatar to what I think we're going to get from Matt,

is like someone likeabler, whereas, like, he's going to be likable enough that where if he makes it to the end, he is dangerous. But how he gets to the end, I think, is where I struggle a little bit. Do I want to have a beer with Matt? Absolutely. Seems like he'd be a great guy to hang out with. But I don't know if I got enough from his interview that would make me think like, oh, okay. If I put him in the game, he's going to be able to navigate it and take out the people he needs to take out in order to win. Chappelle, you're wrong.

You're wrong. He identifies most with Joe. They both are chiseled like Roman gods. They have a lot in common. See, humor. Yeah, he's a very funny guy. Like I said, I liked him. I liked his personality.

I just don't know if he has like survivor winner written all over him. Yeah. Gabler was the one who you know got over that age outlier curse but then I'm like oh that's is that what the example we're attaching to that we're betting this on

so I thought Matt might fall to me honestly and I would have I would have been like that's pretty good but I'm surprised he's going this early to be honest he's fun he is fun he is fun he's a fun guy

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Who is going to be the second part of your team? I'm torn between two people. Who are they? I'm going to go with someone who. Flah. Okay, fine. I'm just going to do it. I'm going to pick Jake. I'm going to pick big strong dude because the big strong dudes will go far. And I just think he has such a story. If he does manage to get to the end, like what an inspirational story to talk about playing. Because this is like the last season your dad might be able to watch because of his glaucoma, missing the birth of his child. Like there are so many things that are. going in this man's corner that he can talk about. I am a little nervous for him, kind of

getting through that N-merge piece of the game, but he's a strong, beefy boy. He'll make merge. Not worried about the grenade. So I'm going to go with Jake. I have a shirt, M.B. I want this shirt. This is a sick shirt.

I feel like everyone was talking about Jake. Like, he stands out. Yeah. Yeah. But that's the thing they're talking about it. I think in mostly a positive way. People are talking about how, oh, yeah, I want to, I mean, there were some negative things about the big beefy boys, but I am hoping that that will be overshadowed by the people that do want to work with him.

I have forgot his name because everybody kept referring to the big guys as the big guys. And so I had to, but I was like, Jake, who is that? But I'm concerned. I think that, yeah, I just, I don't know, man. I see Jake as a physical asset, but I don't know if he's somebody who they can, like, who will go far and do well in the game. I don't know. Yeah, is he going, he's another one that said Joe is one of his favorites.

Yeah, I love Joe. So I wonder, is he going to bring that old school survivor, like, oh, you need to be contributing. If you're not, you got to go. Mm-hmm. You know, he is a bigger guy, and certainly there was a lot of attention on the bigger guys in Survivor 48. But I don't get the sense that he is like a David where I feel like that, you know, he really, you got from talking about him that he seems like he's very sweet. He seems like he has a big heart. And so I think he might be.

Like the tapes. Yeah. I think we got that. Yeah. His favorite movie's not in you. He's a nice guy. Reference are Brittany and his podcast. Yeah.

I don't know if he's going to police how anybody is drinking their coconuts on the island. But Jake, I think, is somebody who might be, don't judge the book by its cover. Mm-hmm. That's what I'm hoping for. Yeah. I mean, I think, and he even talks about it. He's like, look, I come across as a stereotypical douchebag, but that's not my personality. so I'm hoping that that is accurate

and that he's able to find connections that plus the beefiness I think that'll that'll do him well out there well he doesn't like his pet peeves are people thinking they're better than other people and quite frankly people who have a pet peeve of people who think they're better than other people

are not good people damn people who think they're also Canadian Canadians do well in recent history. So that's cool. Yeah, but I mean,

what pick number are we on, Rob 11? Yeah. Yeah. We're getting close to, A, as long as you ain't grenade, you're doing okay.

And I think Jake, even if you don't agree with him, like, winning, I don't think this man's getting no grenade. I think he's safe

for a while. Because even if you have the winner, you can't have the grenade. Unless you have somebody who is also, in the finals, just anybody who's just joining us. Wild that Chappelle and Taryn have both

seen that impact their wins in this like 10 seasons we've been doing this. Amazing. And it sucks. It's not great. It sucks you won because of the rule. Yeah, Chappelle, you benefit it.

The one who got it done in. I survived it, but the whole game is stressful at that point. You're like, what world is Marianne and this guy going to like? Don't make it to the end to give you both of them. I don't clear the grenade. Yeah.

What you want when you have the grenade is to be out of the whole draft by episode three. Then you don't have to worry. Hey, that's why I'm 41. I got dog. Episode one, I lost both. I was out. I was living my life. Yeah.

41. Okay. Yeah. Check-ins. It's great. I see in the chat, Zach is asking, what is the grenade? If you draft the first boot of the game that you are technically out unless your other two people get to the final three and one of them wins that's the one caveat there all right so even if you feel good about your first

pick you got to be able to dodge the landmines here at the end of the draft all right chappelle you have two picks in a row so you will have first the final pick of the second round you got it all started when you picked savannah way back when and i am nervous about this because like when I tell you all y'all just picked off my little draft board off like so down here

I'm down here where I'm nervous okay the person I'm going to pick is very intelligent or at least they come off very intelligent to me they are a survivor fan have been watching all the way back

since Survivor Gabon I'm going to go with Jason yeah okay that was the other one I was my next pick yeah okay I'm glad you're like

oh goodnight grenade grenade He seems great. I think he seems very intelligent. He's also, you know, he shouted out Rachel as somebody that he thinks he could play like. And Rachel had, you know, some very good moments in Survivor. He seems like a big fan of the show. But also, like I said, he seemed very intelligent. Like, I would really want to play.

If it was me, I would want to play Survivor with him. And so I don't see him being the grenade. But like I said, there were just other people who stood out to me as like more obvious people like Chappelle picks, obviously. But I felt like this is going to be fun. He seems likable and smart, kind of like in the same mode of like, or maybe like a diet Christian. And so I'm okay with, I'm happy with this pick.

Yeah, he was somebody who, this is the two people that I was deciding between Jason was the other person I was thinking about picking. I just think that he also, when he speaks about strategy, like he recognizes the benefit of, I think the move that he talks about is Rachel playing her shot in the dark as a litmus test. He's able to dig into some of the more nuanced elements of the strategy, which I think is very fun

to see him talk about all of that subtlety. Plus, he referenced hitting the NOS in the same interview. So you love a guy that lives his life a quarter mile at a time. Like a family. I just wanted to keep the bit going

and have a team of all alternates. but I do I did also really enjoy his interviews and yeah he just he he doesn't I mean because you know we're nearing the third round territory he doesn't scream grenade to me and yeah he's a smart guy so I feel like as soon as he can figure out like his placement in the tribe he can navigate that well yep I agree Taryn, do you know his pet peeve? I do know his pet peeve. And I got to say, it's an interesting one.

Okay. Okay. Yeah. People who are afraid to be wrong or look silly. Own your mistakes. I believe showing weakness is strength. And to that, I must say, Rob, I don't know if you have this ready, but that's a big mistake. Because that's not a pet peeve.

That's not a pet peeve. That's not a pet peeve. That's not a pet peeve. philosophy on life. It's not a pet peeve. He's right. Taroni's right about this. He ate that one thing.

He ate that one thing. Sorry, Jason. Big mistake. You shouldn't have done that. Hopefully you can own it. You know what I mean? Weakness is strength. Couldn't even own it.

Couldn't even own it. Disgusting. Yeah. I'm hoping that he's fine despite his lackluster pet peeveefeet. And I, and I'm surprised you picked him, Chappelle, because he said, I'm just a small little guy. It should be a long time. Like I said, did that only apply to the one?

No, there was 15 people off the damn draft board by the time. It got to me, Asia. You got to get off my neck. I thought, see, this is why I'd let you go to Australia one time. And now you didn't turn on me completely. That was on high strategy. That's what happens. Yeah.

The whole strategy meaning, I was like, just go out to shiphole relentlessly. Yeah, what is this? Okay. I took note. That's fine. That's fine. all right it is a new thing that

chapel hates small people oh my god you came up so randomly you're back up balance it out with your next pick listen I always draft the small

and I always say the same exact thing when I do that I'm concerned because they're small and so I stand by mine Shannon that's tough for you okay

um when a Jason's pet peeves all right um next up this is tough because I I don't know know. I'm very concerned. I feel like there's a, I feel like there's a, I feel like there are good people, but the way, the way, thank you, the way I'm looking at them is like, who is more likely to like kind of come down on like the wrong side of the tribe numbers as the way they interact? And like, I could just see so many iterations of like, if they lose, could it be this person? And I really would hate to draft the grenade because like I said, I feel so good about my first pick. And so.

Now I'm like, uh, where do I go? Um, I got a really big red flag from one person and I just can't do it, but I really want to. Uh, do it. How about this? How about this? Let me tell the audience who's still left. Okay, there's six players left to draft. They are Alex, Annie. We have Jeremiah. Nate Nicole and Shannon People from Canada

people from Canada be doing well I'm a pick Jeremiah Solid logic Okay I love Jeremiah's interview People from Canada be doing well

They do be doing well who thinks to use Everest like I'm climbing Everest as my cover story for playing Survivor that's so creative Leanna what would be your cover story oh climbing K2 obviously

we're going yeah we got a one up Jeremiah obviously people who climb Everest is my pet peeve dang Jeremiah is your pet pee? He didn't climb Everest. It was a cover story.

Keep up Shepal. He's on survival. He picked it. Chappelle, tell us what you like about Jeremiah besides that he's from Canada. And they'd be doing well. His biggest inspiration was El Woods. That's kind of cool. Love that.

Who doesn't love El Woods? But I like this personality. He seemed very likable. He seemed very fun. I just didn't get a cutthroat vibe off of him. That's what I was looking for. I was looking for like, again, if I put you in the game, are you going to be able to take out the people

who are coming for you? And I think even I want to say his interview with Mike, he was talking about what he would vote for on the jury. And I think he said loyalty and I flinched. Like I want to say he said loyalty. And just after 48, I just don't want to ever hear the word again. Y'all, I'm sorry. And the crazy thing is that I too think I would vote for somebody who was loyal to me. I think I would vote along tribal lines. Like if you were my ally in the game

and you went to the final tool, I'm going to reward you for being my friend. But like, I am not going to hold it against other people. for not being loyal. I think that's kind of like the like really the tipping point where I was like, I don't know if Jeremiah is my type of player. So that's kind of how I felt.

He just had a great energy. There were a few people on his actual tribe that I thought he would get along really well with. Like I could see him being set up well particularly with this group of people. Well, he's in a very interesting spot where I believe he's on the tribe with Jake and Jake does not seem like the type of player

that he wants to work with but him and Jake are the two Canadians that are in the cast so what's gonna win now? Cole and Sophie and Annie like I feel like

the tribe is better set up like personality wise for Jeremiah I'm just feeling a bit negative on Jeremiah a little bit glass half empty but he likes glass as cool right that's his thing

right the glass yeah that's the joke Chappelle oh damn I'm sorry I didn't realize that was a pet peeve It's not It's not a pet peeve

What is the pet peeve Terran? He doesn't like Negativity Is a pet peeve Yeah Not enough Mindset People who can't laugh at themselves

And people who only talk about themselves Taryn question Have you watched legally blonde Through osmosis Oh my God Oh my god Just like me girls You don't watch me and girls.

He hasn't. He hasn't. Listen. Hey, listen, what is this? The letterboxed podcast? Get off Terran's neck. Every podcast is like, hey, Taryn, did you watch this movie? You didn't get them on my neck when they was on my neck, Rob.

And, Darren, maybe you should add that into the shopping cart. Rob left at the parking lot. Yeah, you should see my blockbuster. I always return the shopping cart. I was like 9 and 12 when these movies came out. What do you want for me? I was busy watching, like. Like, go away after you turn 13?

Yeah, we're the same age. Yeah, like, that's millennial core. Like, that's... Yeah, I was a hipster at that time, and I only watched Korean films. Like, like, Cape Town. I'm sure they have a Korean dub version, if you're still interested. I'm going to find it right now. Karen, I need you to go watch Mean Girls, then I need you to go watch the Mean Girls musical.

Then I need you to watch Mean Girls again. Then I need you to come back to me and tell me why Mean Girls is better than the Mean Girls' Music. Just watch the 2004 movie and you're fine. Or you can watch the Legally Blonde musical. Or watch the reality show, the search for the next L. Woods. Ooh. Yeah. Then you will get Ashley's preparation for Big Brother.

You'll get a full circle. Okay. All right. We're going to go back to Leanna for pick number 14. Only five picks are left. Yes. So I'm, I can't decide if I'm surprised. that this person is still left on the undrafted.

I really, really enjoyed listening to his interview. It is the MCU's only, Nate Moore. Oh, give me more. He fell very far in this draft. Yeah, Leona, what is it? Yeah, I'll tell you what I think it is. I think it's because of the tribe makeup that he's on. I think I can see him and Joanne.

bonding, right? We got a lot of superhero references going on there, but are they the two that are on the outs and the other four come together and create a majority, right? Is that the concern? Is it because of his age? He is one of the older contestants on the season. Is that a potential reason? Is it because he's too successful, right? I think that there are a number of little reasons that you can look to as to why he may have fallen a little bit further, but I'm happy to hear from the rest of the panel as to why they didn't pick him. Because I'm really excited about Taryn, do you think he ever talked Big Brother

with James Gunn? Maybe, maybe. But I actually, I know the answer to this. I'm the most relevant person to come to on Nate because I know exactly why people are not high on Nate. Have you seen a Marvel movie of him? Let's hear it. His pet peeve.

Swifties. Ooh. Nate. Shannon of a nasty. That's crazy. Shannon's been telling her. everybody how they're her personal pet peeve and now she's somebody's personal pet pee. I mean, I'm a lot of these people's personal personal.

That happens every time. Like, I'm a lot of people's pet peeve. Twifties, in parentheses, just kidding. Oh. Well, oh. It wasn't a joke. Why say it if you're just going to, if anything, the just kidding made it worse for me. It's a soft launch.

It's a soft launch. It's like, yeah, you just want to see the response. Maybe he's a, he's kidding. Do you give a real pet pee? pet peeve his actual pet peeve after that it was his other pet peeves were people who manage up and treat those in lower status in a given situation poorly people who avoid confrontation swifties just kidding okay shannon call us a recap bidswifty is knock it off message Nate and ask him if he actually hate swifties yes all right i'm on it thanks

or should I just message Stephen and be like, by the way, while I'm here Yeah, yeah, hey, yeah, you don't want to know if they've talked about it. Nate from the MCU has about as much of an opportunity to respond to the Puyah's message as Asia's castmate. John Lovett.

Yeah, exactly. This changes a lot. This is upsetting news. I don't know. Well, I loved Nate, but he doesn't love me. So I'm just, well, he said, he's just. It's a joke. Like, oh, people, people will get mad.

Yeah, it's like, it's like, Shannon, if I said, oh, you're super annoying. Just kidding. Just kidding. People do that. Yeah. They're just kidding. Away that much, does it?

It kind of still feels like you're calling me annoying. I think it's a joke because he's a Swifty. Oh, no. That means not a Swifty. Yes. No. I'm not sure about that. I mean, he was.

So he was lower for me only because he comes off very popular. Like, he comes off very successful. And I don't know if he's going to go in and be like, oh, this is my real occupation and kind of like be able to relate to Joanne in that way. Or is he going to try to play it off as something else, which I don't think will be, I think it'll be very difficult for him to, unless he's just, you know, a great actor.

Like, he can become an actor and just be like, hey, I'm cool, you know. I'm not a producer. You know, I don't know. He just, he, he, he reads successful. Mm-hmm. I, so he talks about in his strength, that part of his management style is to hear what everybody is saying to synthesize that information, hear out everybody's opinions. So I'm hoping the fact that he has more of that style of leadership will help overcome that, because I do hear what you're saying, Asia. He does just have such confidence that he can come across potentially as a domineering leader.

but he also loves Australian Survivor. Yeah, he loves Australian. Huge, huge, yeah. He talked about Ferris, Kirby. We love to hear it. Who did you want? So did Juana. I sent it to Ferris.

I'm like, these are the first two interviews and they're both talking about it. I know. Which, and they, I mean, Joanne and Nate is like a match made in heaven. I like them both, I think. I thought. I was very high on Nate

for like any of my picks. It is a bit of an age outlier and a success outlay as we've said but he just is so likable he has like such a good head on his shoulders I mean he's like way too

good for all of this you know but which Swifties because some of the Swifties are annoying well what you're not okay

oh oh whoa because they're like that's like Survivor fans like which Survivor fans because like

many yes so something we are is your argument Shannon not all of not all Swifties is that what you're saying Hashtag.

Yeah. Not all Swifties. These are at war. Like, the Swift, you know, I look at that community from afar and I think that's toxic. And then I go right back to my survivor community on my high hall. A civil war. Rap, was good. He was the person who asked Mike what Kryptonite was.

I know it's not Marvel, but I was like, he's not. He was Jeremiah. He goes, what is that? I was like, oh, no. Yeah. Maybe he said that's tricky. Maybe he's very Marvel. People are so mad about that.

It's just very confusing. That's like not having seen mean girls. Like, that's crazy to me. But Joanne is going to die when he, like, finds out about Nate. And that is great. And I love them. And I don't think that they will be outliers because we've also not picked someone on this tribe yet. And I think that person is more the outlier of this tribe.

So I think Juan and Nate are good to go. Yeah. That's fair. All right. I'm concerned about Nate turning on Joanne. Oh, no. I said, I'm concerned. Yeah.

When I said earlier, I say, I have a concern about Joanne. it's Nate. I don't trust him. He's too, he's too, he's too, he's too. He's too. I feel like he's, and I feel like Jouan might give a head nod to a Swifty every now and then. He might be Swifty adjacent like myself. I just don't, I feel like, I feel like Jowan is less likely to throw Nate under the bus than Nate is like, Nate to take him. And Joanne is going to go into that for him. Because if Jowan is picking between winning the game and turning on Nate, he should like,

if he needs to turn on Nate to win, he should not turn on Nate. Nate can give him the keys to like his dream job, he's a video editor who's obsessed to the superheroes. If he knows, what I'm saying is if they don't know, I could definitely see Nate being the type to come down and be like, nope, you can have them. And I really want Joanne to be able to do well. So I'm like hoping that they can lock in.

Yes, I thought that too. Okay. Let's go back to Taryn. There are four picks left. Yes, there are four picks left. And there is a choice I could make here. You know, last season, I went against some of my pet peeve strategy to go for a theme. And it did not work out for me.

So this season, I am sticking more strictly to my pet peeve strategy. And that means that I will not be sticking to my theme. Instead, I will be choosing the person with the better pet peeve. And that person is Annie. Okay. So I'm just trying to look back at what your theme is. Everyone has lost. It would have been a theme, Rob.

You took another shopping card out there. You took Juan. You took Matt. So what was the theme between those two? There were three shopping carts out there. I could have gone for the shopping cart. There's a shopping cart. That's insane.

It's relevant. I wonder who it is. Has it ever been a shopping cart before this? No. That's true. Something weird is happening. Okay. So, all right.

So Taryn goes with Annie is the pick. Annie just did better. Now, first pet peeve off the out of the gate, not great. Dumb people. What does that mean? Who's dumb? Tell me, Annie. However,

She brings it back. Leaf blowers. Y'all, Daddy. I love you. Yeah. Yes. Pet peeve of all podcasters, the leaf blower. She even adds a little side commentary in parentheses.

Bring back the rake. Yes. Annie. Yes. Oh, my. Brilliant. Yes. Least likely person on here to rake something is Shannon.

I'm also not going to leaf blow anything. Just let the leaf stay where they say. Okay. Well, let us who rake lose our leaf blowers in peace. Thank you. You leave? No. I rake.

Alliance cancels. I said I rake. You said you blew. No, I rake. Never blow. No, another silver war. Final pet peeve. Biscuit cans.

Hmm. Like the ones that you turn. The one is the best one. Do they have to be so scary to open? Oh, any. Yeah. I can see it. Come all, y'all.

That's the exciting. The key is just use your thumb. It won't. The panel is reacting like I'm like I'm showing them a movie. This is how good her pet peeves are. Leaf blowing is a pretty iconic. The ultimate pet peeves. It's number one of all the pet peeves.

It brings it down. No, I don't like this. Okay. Because you're a leak blower. Because you and Rob are doing these things. I get it. I'm a whiskey. I do like a can of biscuits, Shannon.

Thank you. She's fun. Okay. Yeah. Listen, I also a fan of Australia. Survivor now, have reason to feel good about CEOs. Yep. And that Annie is on top of having good pet peeves.

I don't even know what you mean. Janine is a CEO. Oh, right. She needs everything. Yes. Okay. Your juice. All right.

Annie ends up falling far in the draft down to 15. The panel must have had some concerns about Annie. why did Annie end up going in the third round? I personally really like her energy. I'm a little nervous for her tribe. Like I just don't, where's the cohesion amongst this seemingly random group of people? Can you remind us who's in her tribe, Leanna? Yes.

So this would be, of course, Annie, Kimberly, Annie Davis, the beefy boy, Jake, Jeremiah, the other Canadian, Sophie, Sophie. with an eye that Puyah drafted, the first Sophie, as well as Nicole and Alex, who have both been undrafted so far. And I do feel like, is this a consequence of us maybe intuitively sensing that this tribe is maybe going to be the chaotic one? There's a lot of bad pet peeves on that tribe.

Let me tell you. Well, see, there you go. Yeah, this tribe reads chaos to me. I feel like Annie will be fine. I just don't see how Annie wins the game. That is what I'm concerned about. When she said, oh, yeah, Trashy Annie, I said, oh, yeah, y'all know I'm going to run this into the ground, okay? Trashy Annie every week to the final three.

I'm all in. But I definitely think that I have concerns about her being able to make it to the end and actually win the game. I don't really know if her strategy talking about the strategy really made me feel like, okay, I have a surprise player in front of me. She feels like somebody who's likable, who's got a lot of life experience. She likes some music. She's from Texas. There are a lot of good things about Annie. but I'm definitely not like, oh yeah, I can see her taking it off.

I think a lot of people said really positive things about her and like she has a good, like, again, like she's a fun pick. A lot of these people at the end, it's like I would have, if it was on like my preferences, very high, but like are they going to win? I don't know in terms of the outliers, but I think she, I don't think she'll be the grenade because people seem to be viving her energy. And then if she's parabolic, like she could go very far. do you want to explain to the listeners what you mean by parabolic um yeah you know it's usually

an Australian survivor there are people like some you know there are some people that'll be first budar win there are some people often women because of the way that the game is structured particularly in Australian survivor where it's like if you don't go home early then maybe like people start looking at the big guys because of the way the game is structured in the middle game and then you get to the end and win so it's either side of the parabola okay now she is a fan of the summit, Karen. So I don't know if you want to factor that in to your

feelings. But no, she is. Was she a fan that she didn't like how they did it? Well, I thought, oh, maybe okay, maybe she wasn't. I don't remember. I just remember her talking about the summit. Right? She did mention it. I feel like that she was like complaining about it. That's a, that's a through line. They both talked about the summit.

It would have been, has she said her pet peeve was the summit? I think Terran would have picked up first. But better than leaf blow is, though, Taron. It's pretty good, though. Leafblowers is the right on, so. There's one right on, so.

Leafblowers. I was like, who was that? The people who listened to the Summit podcast get that joke. And only those three people. I was there for that. I was there. Speaking of three people. Unfortunately.

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There are three drafters and three folks left in this draft. They are Alex, Nicole, and there's Shannon the player and Shannon the drafter. The Venn diagram. Okay. All right. Asia, which of Alex, Nicole or Shannon are you going to add to your draft team, which already includes MC and Sage? well um you know since we are in do not pick the grenade territory i know i very well could be picking the grenade so it really comes down to who's the least of the grenade uh and i hope that this person

proved me wrong and hopefully this person makes me think how dare you thought i was going to be the grenade you know i would love to be able to root for that person um oh no i i I have two women So Might as well add a guy to the mix Oh, okay Yeah I'm going to pick Alex

Okay Yeah I don't get it Why did Alex fall to 16 I'm pretty high on Alex I liked Alex a lot from his interview Why did Alex slip so far in the draft Alex? He is on this tribe right

the random group of people tribe. Yes. Oh, look at that random. I don't think it's, I see here. They have Jake. They'll be fine. Like, they don't go to travel. So random.

So, yeah, I just don't know how this tribe will fare. And so I try to look at like, okay, in this tribe, are there a couple of people I could see, you know, him kind of clicking with? And it's really hard to tell just based on, you know, these bios. I do like that he identifies most with Yule because, you know, I'm personally connected to talking about Yule because we had a very heated debate on the Lavo tribe about Yule

because one specific person thought that Yule was not a deserving winner. The rest of us felt differently. Oh, who was that? I feel like it's one to answer it with a 5B1 debate. Was it because of the idol? Was that why, Asia? Yes. Yeah.

Yeah. They felt that Yule had a very unfair advantage the whole game. I actually just had this conversation with Chappelle on a podcast and Chappelle was on the wrong. But I was not bashing Yule. Yeah. It was adjacent. I wasn't. Yeah. And I'm not

Yule. So Alex has taste. He also wants to play like Sam. So he has taste in that way as well. Sam's a great guy. I like all the people who wanted to play like Rachel, these people have taste, you know? Yeah. So I just, I just would like, I just, I think with Alex, I just needed to see more.

Like, he's a great guy, great personality is just like, it matters so much who you are paired with. Shannon, you seemed very happy when Asia said that she was picking Alex. Was it because that you have somebody of either Nicole or Shannon that you have your eyes on or you did not want Alex? No, no, it's not about Alex. I think Alex is a really sensible pick. And I thought Asia's, like, there's two people, of the three people, there was someone who I thought was really like a sensible pick, which was Alex. So I think he's not the grenade who's like really solid. Like, I don't know that I got like winner vibes, but I felt like he's a really solid pick. But then I thought, so I thought either Asia will leave him to me and I'll take the sensible pick or Asia will leave me the person who I really want, who's the fun pick. And Asia made that choice for me. And it is what my heart wanted. So it's not about Alex. I think Alex is maybe even a best. better pick than the person I'm going to pick. But I just wanted my fun pick. I think Alex is a thing.

I think Alex being at this low in the drop doesn't make much sense to me. I think he dropped too low. I think he mentioned the margarita curse. I think it speaks less to Alex and more to the cast. I think it's a very strong cast full of personalities.

Like if you put Alex on some other random season, he could have been one of the first five picks but it's just like on this cast and with the the tribe makeups i think that's the only reason i know there's some concern about potentially alex looking for a showmance did that hold anybody back i didn't i didn't hear that was that in the mic interview i think that i i don't remember uh where it was by no it wasn't a bunch in the mic interview but his um his boss pretty much told him to go out there and get a wife so and but he did He did talk about, like, being, he did talk about one of his weaknesses was that he's a softie, he's also single, and he would be going for the girl. So there are some red flags there for that. But I do think in terms of like at least initial bonds on his tribe, he is, he does like Annie. So that's good. He likes the Jim Tan Laundry guy, which I believe is Jake, who's also on his tribe. So if those feelings are reciprocated, then that gives him, you know, potentially a group of three to start with.

I like Alex I just go ahead No go ahead Taryn go ahead I want to hit a pet peeve Oh well you know Obviously I have some very important pet peeves To talk about

You know He's he doesn't like it When people would rather Uber Than walk 10 minutes That's me again Damn would they keep getting me See I don't like what's what's the issue here I mean I'm a walker

But like why why poohoo the person Who wants to Uber Right I guess maybe like the environment save money, the environment I can't imagine it's the environmental cost of the Uber ride

That is really wasteful Like it is Unless it's just in a group Like you're out with friends But like 10 minute walk versus waiting For the Uber for 10 minutes And I mean I don't want to be able to I think it's like hey come on let's go

Come on we're going to wait around for the Uber We just walk It's right there Yeah I like the walk I'm the walk guy What if it's really hot or really cool Yeah sometimes the weather don't permit I mean, those are outliers.

You know what I'm saying? But I'm talking about in general. Shepo, you talk about how it's too cold in September in New York. Like you say that's... It's too cold in September. What do you think? It's freezing. I don't know.

No, Pua, like... No, stop. Don't even say that. Now, he does, he does bring this back. And this is... I almost picked him because his other pet peeve blocking a grocery store aisle with your shopping card. Ding, ding, ding, ding.

Ding, ding, ding, ding. How do you feel about that, Rob? You know, I spend a lot of time at the grocery store. I don't really encounter too many times where somebody has blocked the whole aisle with their car. Could you imagine, though, if you had? And how annoying it might be? I guess that would be pretty annoying. Yeah, I, you turn.

I, you turn to not have to talk to the person. Oh, no. I'm a big, excuse me, girl. Yeah. Oh, please. Thank you. So, you know how movie etiquette is worse than ever and it's like a whole issue? Is shopping cart etiquette worse than ever?

Is that why it's now on three people's pet peeves when it's never been there before? Like something must be happening. You know, that's what I always say. Survivor pet peeves are a reflection of society. He's going to write a book about it. What are the odds that they talk about? Behind the shopping cart.

Behind the peep. So my biggest concern with this tribe is that in my mind, I already know how this is going to go. My smalls, they're going to get together and come after the big guys, right? So, look, because in my head, Sophie B is running this tribe like the Navy. I'm sorry.

And so she's like, I got my big guy. But when the rest of the people show up and they're like, he wants to keep the tribes strong, they're like, we can't do that. We got to vote out a bigger guy. But they're not going to vote out Jake because he's Jake. He's the biggest guy. You want to win the challenges.

So I'm afraid it might trickle down to Alex being next in line. That is my concern. That's why I didn't draft Alex. Very specific. Very specific. I saw this tribe and I was like, And it's because of a person that we haven't talked about yet. And I can't wait until we get to it.

Okay. All right. So, Shannon, you are in the catbird seat. You've got a big decision to make because you will not only decide whether you get Nicole or your namesake, Shannon. But you will also be deciding who Pooja has with the 18th pick. Pooya, do you want to give Shannon any thoughts before she? makes her selection? Absolutely not. I want Shannon to make both decisions for both of us, and then we can talk about the choices. How about this? Do you have a preference of these two?

Low key, no. Yeah, not quite. So I'd be content with whatever it ends up. He's lying. He's lying to me. Um, okay, there's a lot here. Shannon, the, my name. My name. namesake for some reason I feel she's a kindred spirit you know I saw a comment on YouTube that was like Shannon talks too much and too fast and it sure went down my spine and then I'm like no you're on the video for Shannon from Survivor and I think she's great for my SEO because if people are going to be Googling that it's going to like push me down um it's like Disney Frozen should what um Google that okay I um I um I should should, sure. Her interview with Mike was the wildest interview I've ever heard. It was my

favorite interview ever. She went on more journeys than a new era season. I can't pick fast talking, talk too much Shannon. Like, I'm sorry. You know, I should, obviously, but I can't do that. So I'm going to give Shannon to Pua, and I'm going to take Nicole. Who I loved. I love Nicole. Nicole is so RHAP coded. If we're going to draft for who is most likely to be guesting on RHAP, it just felt so right.

She was so much fun. She had such good chemistry with Mike. She was, I loved her. And is she going to do well? I don't know. But I love having her on my team. So now I've got like a fun vibes team, I think. And yeah, I think Shannon will be better than Shannon.

Elkins, who was my representation so far. Better than Shambo? TBD. But Nicole was talking about Shambor a bit, but I think that, yeah, I could not go. I couldn't go with Shannon, so I've taken Nicole. Okay. Here's Nicole. I think this is the better pick.

Someone with your name pops up, you don't pick them, red flag. Yeah. Yeah, of course. When first Survivor Chappelle pops up, I'm getting them. I'm going to be first in life of Survivor Korea. Yeah. Nicole is the reason why I think the war is going to pop off. Nicole said, I'm the love child of Shannon and Boston Rob.

I said, oh, there's no way. There's no way Nicole isn't like, I'm in control. I'm taking this over. I'm not going to let this guy take over. And so I am concerned. I am concerned because I like Survivor when the people pick their sides and go to war, but it rarely works out for the general these days, you know, and I'm like, Nicole, I feel like she's going to be leading the charge, she's going to be too far out in front,

and I am very concerned about Nicole. I don't think Nicole is the grenade by any stretch of imagination, but I just think if you were playing a controlling game that has a little bit of shambo in it, I just don't know if that's accurate, how you're going to win the game. But it's not like that, I don't know that that plays out. Like for me, the thing is just what a great, like how natural her conversation was with Mike. Like she's such a good time. She was fun. I loved her.

She was fun. Smart, funny. Definitely. I think has, yeah, has a lot going for her. I do, similarly, I do see some of Chappelle's concerns, which is why I didn't draft Nicole. I think that hopefully if she can take advantage of kind of that, like I'm unassuming and not jump in to start the war, then I think that that will be more beneficial for her. she had three bad pet peeves oh all three are bad one very good one she had four total so one was bad company ooh okay okay okay the west coast um why the whole entitlement

bad pet peeves however there's one very good one a bagel that goes untoasted So, like, bread? No, an un-toasted bagel. If the bagel fresh, you don't need to toast it, though. Yeah. I agree with you. Oh, God. Oh, God.

No. I agree. Nothing. A little bread. The bagel must be toasted. As the person worked at a bagel place for five years, I feel like I'm the authority on this. Oh, wow. She owns her own bagel place.

Well, who am I to judge? You know, my hands are tied. are you going to argue with justin about pizza i think not i like to pet peeve about the west coast i could yeah i could just dislike a place i'm not saying i dislike the west coast but i could i could see that like i'm going to the west coast soon don't we all here's the thing here listen i'm okay with the west coast as a pet peeve but you got to give me the reason oh okay you can't just you can't just blanket say the west coast unless it's readily apparent and let me tell you the readily apparent answer probably not the one she wants

mm-hmm mm-hmm mm-hmm good good to know good to know yeah because my pet peeve is cold that is all it doesn't there's no explanation it doesn't get any deeper than that it is cold it's not how do you think cold is whatever I feel like cold is that day cold I think Nicole's a rather red flag for Nicole is that she says she can be impulsive that always makes me a little bit nervous on Survivor just want to throw that out there mm-hmm that's fine people say things i'm telling you yeah but i'm telling you like that impulse control the lack or lack there of and the idea that like i feel like nicole like i think she wants control of the tribe and i think that that impulse is going to kick in and she'll be like no i'm about to take over this you know chanin maybe a little bit kirby ask you know where kirby's finally i'll take it yeah but that's the high point right it's kirby but at the same time i'm very concerned about kirby in every given round we're like no that's fine okay this shouldn't work but for kirby it will i don't know if nico got that Kirby, you know.

Can we reset, what's the tribe that Nicole's on? The random tribe, the Kelly tribe. She's going to get home with Jeremiah. She's going to get on with Annie. Like, she's got a good group of people here. They're going to revolt. The lady's going to lead the tribe with the iron face.

Are they just the random tribe because Annie's on the tribe? Are we being random? Why are they the random? Don't they just feel more random? Yeah. And I don't know that they go into, like, she's getting grenaded because they have Jake from a challenge perspective

but it feels like they only have Jake no not true I don't think it's like it which I mean Jonathan dragged some other people through so you never know 100% I think that they're going to love her because I loved her like she was one of my favorite interviews

but I think I might have got my two favorite interview I loved I actually I loved a lot of them but Christina Nicole really stuck out to me of just like and if that's what Survivor is of just liking people, which is not a way more than that. We talk about it all the time. But, like, that's what it is. I've got a great draft team.

I love my team. I don't care how they do. It's not about how they do. It's about how I feel and I feel great. Is Shannon's team toasted or not? What do you think? It's toasted a good thing or a bad thing? Yeah.

Well, according to Nicole. Yeah. I did learn on Instagram. that Nicole is a fan of cider and I too love cider famously Asia Yes Asia was an Australia who bought cider

I couldn't drink it but I was there Yeah Ain't it like just No it's alcoholic Yeah Kind of No

I couldn't have that Chappelle Okay Chappelle next time we're together I'm gonna give you some cider And watch what happens Ooh Okay Yes

Deal You should buy me six of them to watch what happens, Asia. This you're offering by 12 of them, really punish me. All right. Let's go to Puyah with the 18th and final pick of the draft. And Pooya, you get Shannon. Shannon being the last pick. What is this, us setting the draft order?

Yeah. Shannon, why would you do this? Why wouldn't you pick your namesake? It's surprising to me, because let me tell you, I will be, you put her on my team, I'm going to be rooting for this Shannon so hard. A fellow podcaster in the podcast space, she is going to become known as the survivor Shannon moving forward.

Don't you see what she's done, Puyah? She's made you root for Shannon. Yeah, this is true. But then the joke's not on me. The jokes on Shannon when this Shannon is the more known Shannon in the survivor space. Oh, yeah, it's not fun, Shannon. I'm happy to be the Shannon that sucks and if that this shadow wants to prove you

I've not played the game I'm a good argument to make with this the app I forgot about that part I listen I think it's better for my FEO I agree but I have a problem with Shannon what what no

which one her pet peeves are when she has pet peeves how dare you How dare you? What does that mean? Do they come and go? You can't have a pet peeve?

That is pet peeves. It ruins the integrity of pet peeves. Are you telling me that Shannon didn't properly answer this question? No, she did actually give some good ones afterward. But still, how dare she? Well, let's focus on the good then. Okay, she had some bad ones, but she did have one good one. Okay.

Being able to hear muffled TV when trying to sleep. so I don't turn the TV out in your room turn it off off yeah I just do this cohabitating that's completely avoidable

but you can't like when someone else is living there maybe that's like you can't hear it well enough so it's annoying you know

maybe it's the neighbors oh that's bad yeah yeah I'm nosy too if I hear your TV I'm doing that too I don't see what you watching

I'm gonna be in your business if you if I can hear your TV even a little bit you're right this is a good one go Shannon not you shan not you shan

No, but it's all negated by pet peeves. Also, she slipped snoring in there a little bit, too. Snoring negativity was in there. Yeah, it's not enough. The ratio's off. So I, uh, you've gone into it. Like, it was wild. Yeah, we got to talk about the interview because when I, I take notes, I kind of have a, like, a template that I use.

It is like, okay, the strength, the weakness. I want to pop those in there. I just have so many blanks because Mike would ask her a question. And she would just talk about stuff for a seemingly random amount of time. So to me, I'm like, this is someone who doesn't listen, which important when you're out there playing Survivor to be able to listen to the other people around you. So for me, that was the biggest red flag that I saw with Shannon. No offense, Shannon.

Yeah, but I want to ask a question to Asia. Because Asia, you know, you've brought up, you're like, this person, they like Sam, they got good taste. What about Boston Andy, Asia? Don't we love Boston Andy around here? Boston Andy. Boston Andy, that's right. Oh, wait. Is it just the cheats from Boston?

Is that? No, she caught Andy Boston, Andy. In Boston, everyone's Boston someone. I mean, he did spend time in Boston, right? When he did a graduate school and, yeah. Oh. So, yeah, I wasn't familiar that people refer to him as Boston. Andy.

Asia, I'm pulling at very, very much straws here. I need your back. Oh, oh, I get, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Boston, Andy, yes. Right, yeah, exactly. Paste, yes. Yeah, did feel a little Nepo baby-ish to be like, and I know Boston Robb. I was like, oh, is that why you're here? Well, Boston Rob worked at the sports bar that her family owned like forever ago.

yeah but she's like her dad's friends with everybody she named dropped a billion people that she's friends with i did gotta give back like uh like hey wouldn't it be cool to get a boston rob name drop on the show like that's kind of how i was feeling after a while listened to her interview i was like what are we doing so uh then she's like okay well she asked boston rob for advice like what advice she's like check who sleeping next to each other in the shelter it's like boston robber said that so many like anyone who's ever heard of boston rob no bat we have freedom access to boston rob no that And then she blew it off.

She was like, they were like, so anything you're going to use from Boston Rob in the game? No, I'm probably just going to be me, man. I don't know, man. This guy's got 25, you know, years of doing this. But I'm just me. You know what I'm saying? And I just got that. It's just something about me that's going to win it.

I was like, you got Boston around there. I'll be asking a production question. Like, so how often, when do they follow you the most? Like, you got to get into weeds when you got Boston Rob. I feel like she squandered at the moment. I don't think if they put her on it's like. The shelter thing. I don't think they put her on it as like a NEPO baby or a favor to Boston Rob.

I think it's more of a coincidence than it was like why they put her on the show. I mean, she's a big character. You don't think what they say is that bar. Yeah. Oh, it's literally her bar. Yeah, it's the bar that her mom owns. You don't think that plays into a dog. You think they're like, hey, what if we cast this person on the show, then we can get her dad's bar to make a survivor bar.

in Boston. And named drop boss, Rob. Yeah, there's a lot of layers. I really loved, she had a part in her bio that I thought was great, which is that she was explaining

what her hobbies were. And one of her hobbies is listening to bangers. And then she explained what bangers were in great tunes. Oh. That is one of the points of movies.

That is a little good banger. I thought it was the Miley album, too. That's, that's a record. That's hit after hit. I'm just really happy that she explained what it was. She must be talking about. Because Matt probably wouldn't have known.

L. O.L. It's not Miley Cyrus bangers. It can't be. It's not. No, I think it's just general songs that are bangers. Quote, in parentheses, great tunes. It's literally great tunes.

Yeah. Not bangers in parentheses, Miley Cyrus. Is bangers capitalized? Is the B capitalized? The whole thing was the whole word is. But Milis bangers. It's not a Z. Yeah, exactly.

So it was an S? It's all caps with an S. And then in parentheses, great tunes. No, then you're right. You're right. I don't like it. If it was the Mileybangers, listen, we could have a conversation.

Now, the other thing I want to say, and this has become more of a conversation this summer for me, and I assume more to come. But generally, people who use AI to learn about these shows before doing them. Not great.

We've had some bad math there, math statistics. Listen, I know you're not a fan of Boston Rob's advice, but calling him A. To check each other in the shelter? That's less offensive than having Boston Rob's ear and then being like, nah, let me see what this AI saying, though.

Like, that's where we are. It was AI Jesus and then also a mix with something else. Well, I don't know what any of that means, right? I am someone who I heard chat GPT and then they're all, I'm like that older person where everything's one thing now. They're all chat GPT to me. Yeah. AI Jesus is crazy.

AI Jesus was crazy and it was like only just one part of the interview. Unlocked spiritual wisdom and discover guidance with Jesus AI, a website dedicated to meaningful conversations with. Jesus Christ. Oh. Oh. It's like a whole thing. Oh, wow.

All right. All right. Let's take a look at what our draft teams are looking like. And here's what we've got. It's Chappelle's team is Savannah, Jason, and Jeremiah. We've got Leanna's team, which is Risgod, Jake, and Nate. Taryn's team is Jawan. Matt and Annie.

Asian's team is MC, Sage, and Alex. Shannon's team is Stephen, Christina, and Nicole. And Puyah's got so fresh and sophies. Yeah. Sophie.

Sophie S does it all. The Sophies. And then also Shannon. Mm-hmm. Triple S. And also Shannon. No, we're down. Who has a win a,

Rob. Who has the grenade? Who's team? Who's team do you like the most? Yeah. Whenever I have the grenade, you always like to embarrass me on the podcast. Who has the grenade?

Let's see. Who has the most grenade potential? It looks to see if anybody has more than one possible. I feel like I jumped on one. I'm not very happy with my team. Mm-hmm. But I, and I'm not afraid of it.

You think Annie can be the grenade, Taron? I just feel like my thing is a little risky It's a little risky business Yeah I think I might be More worried about Chappelle I think that I think that he has

Because I think that Well I think that there's a couple of people That you maybe there's one I feel like that Chappelle is the only person I see that really has Maybe two real grenade possibilities In Jason and Jeremiah Thank you Robert Oh

okay later off who has the best team overall also me let's see I think that Leanna's team

is very strong I think Nate in the third round is a real steel I also thought that Alex was a real steel there in the third round but I'll say that Leanna overall

I don't feel like that she has a grenade and so I'll go with Leanna's team Let's go Let's go Okay Okay

Oh Surrey Jeez All right So is there any other draft business To take care of tonight

No Yes Just a heads up To people The winner of the 49 draft will not be making the draft order for 50 Okay

The winner of the 49 draft is going to make the draft order for Survivor 51 No, but what about the winner of 50? One of 50, 150. So this is for nothing then. Wait, really?

No, the opposite. The opposite? Yeah, it's the opposite. What Rob said is the opposite of what Pooier said. Yes. And Pugia's correct. Who is deciding the draft order for 51? The winner of this.

50 is decided it was just for nulls. Nobody's your 50 for the laws. Canonically in the order of setting draft orders, I thought we decided this was random. So then it was random. So the winner of. of 50 sets the 51 order. Should 50 would be random because this was random? 50 will have been the most recent season.

Nobody's going to remember this draft in a year. You know what? We did just talk about how we're not going to drafting it for you. I think I'm fine with that. This is a episode of its own. Then from 50 on. This should be for walls. Yeah.

Why would 49 be the laws and not 50? Oh. In the words of Matt, this is the LaMau version of the, the draft is the LaMau. Okay, well, Rob said I got the grenade anyway, so I got nothing to worry about it. I mean, we still get a cameo, right? I mean, we'll get a cameo, sure.

We'll record a new intro for the Survivor 50 draft with the winner with a cameo from the winner of the 49 draft. Okay, that's for fun. Okay. I might be a little busy, but we'll try to make it worse. All right, let me tell you about, this is going to be a crazy week coming up here

on RHAP. And of course, over the weekend, we played, let me try this again. Okay, RHAP Mafia, which was such a great event. You can go ahead and watch the full version of it. It was a real spectacle, thanks to all the reality stars who came out to play. Puyah and I had a lot of fun going through everything from Reality Mafia. And of course, our live shows for this fall, we are going to be in New York City on October 8th and in San Francisco on November 5th. Some tickets are still available at Robbins website.com slash events. Then on Tuesday night, I'll be doing another stream along watching Pluto TV. If you want to join me for that, that's going to be at 8 p.m. Eastern coming up on Tuesday.

And then, of course, we've got a full week of Survivor coming up, plus the amazing race. Still all of Big Brother, make sure you're subscribed to all the podcasts and right here on R-HAP on YouTube. Chappelle. I have a question. Yes. What about, okay, because I don't like that this is for nothing.

What if you got a grenade packs if you win this? And then the next time we do it, if you get the grenade, it doesn't affect you. You're still fine. You can still be in the draft. I want this to be. But only the winner.

There's a lot of fire for the winner of the draft. I like that. I feel like that's a bigger advantage than the drop door. Yeah, it's way more valid. Let's switch him. I just think it's cool to have something. I don't like that. It's for nothing.

So you're saying the Survivor 50 winner should get a grenade pass? For 51. And just 51. And then the 49 winner is not the order of 51. So Terran's like, no. It's massive, but it might be worth it because 50 is so special. It's massive. It's 59 massive?

Yeah. There's six of us. Let's run a vote. And then if we, if majority favor the move on it. Listen, I, I, If you guys want it, I'm not, I'm not going to do, Taryn. Fight it. I think it's fine to just believe it as is. Nothing is so poor.

I think a grenade pass is very powerful. But listen, I, we're good. We can do a grenade pass. It's 50. I feel like it's time. Let 50 have some. 50 is massive. Chappelle needs this, Terran. You know, how many grenades is that?

So this draft is to decide the 51 draft order and the Survivor 50 is for the grenade pass. No, I think it's the opposite. No, no, no. They said this was too big for 49. Yeah. This is the grenade pass for 50. No, the winner of 50 has the grenade pass for 51. Why not that then?

Why not just make this be the grenade pass for 50? The draft we've already. Yeah, I think that makes sense. No, that's what is done, though. Did you have a grenade pass just in a random 49 draft? Rob, we were land in the plane. We derailed it. No, I think what Chappelle said is actually right, one for one.

that yeah there's this will be deciding a regular draft should do and then 50 you can have this like massive 5 15 can be the grenade pass okay yeah all right thank you agree thank you shannon all right there you go all right uh let's let's uh real quick let's hear what everybody else has coming up shepel what's coming up for you i'm gonna recap kickback yeah yeah talking about beauty and black with tyler perry and talking about flavor of love season two with shantelle she just found out what a safari was now she keeps saying don't hit me with flowers it's crazy and so check that out live on youtube youtube.com slash at recap kickback and then on monday chapelle and i are going to be doing the slop over on patreon we're going to be talking about everything all the nonsense going on here in the last week of big brother and we have a little bit of an announcement that some people may

not like but other people may love is that club condo is going to be following the slop and we're going to get very sloppy on Club Condo this season on Patreon. Ooh. Yeah. We're putting it behind the paywall because this time, yeah, Big Brother got a little sloppy,

and so we suspect the Survivor season might get a little sloppy too. And so we're going to put Club Condo back behind it, so Jeff got to pay to hear it. All right? Because the best clubs that you got to get in. You got to get in.

You got to get in. It got to be a dress code. You got to be on the list. You don't come in with them shoes on that you'd be wearing. If you want to get into Club Condo. You've got to be on the list. All right. Leanna, what's coming up for you?

Well, unlike Club Condo at the B&B, no shirt, no shoes, no service is out the window. We, in fact, require no shirt and no shoes. No, the B&B, look, it's a mess. It's always so fun. Mike and I already recorded our preview podcast, as I mentioned at the top of the show. And we're going to be going throughout the season, giving all of our thoughts. on Survivor 49. That and then, of course, the pal, Puyah and I also talk about reality TV.

We've talked a lot about Big Brother and Traders, as well as I'm sure we'll share our thoughts on Survivor as well. So check that out, Puyenliana.com. All right. Taryn, you've got a busy night coming up. I do. Now, listen, if you're a survivor viewer, if you're on the survivor side of RHAP, you may know I'm on the Big Brother side.

If you have not watched Big Brother, if you're not a viewer of the cover, And you want to learn more about the other tent pole show that we cover here at RHAP. I wrote a book called Behind the Mirror inside the World of Big Brother, which I'm very excited about. It's coming out in November. You can pre-order it now at tarenarmstrong.com. Put it in your shopping cart. Fill up the shopping cart. Leave it in the parking lot.

Whatever you need to do. but it's it's written in a way that should be very accessible to anybody that doesn't know the show or anybody that wants to learn more about it so check it out very proud of it and yeah hope you hope you enjoy it okay and then stick around because it's a big brother night here too big brother 27 new episode kicking off in about 20 minutes yep okay all night for me all right stay tuned everybody it's going to be worth it tonight okay All right. It's worth it every night. But stay up, it's worth it to stay up late tonight. Okay. Asia.

Yeah, I'll be joining Taryn. So I'm really excited for us to recap the episode in about 20 minutes. This is going to be a late night. Just kidding. We can, we'll dive into everything. Very excited. And you guys can follow me at Asia like Asia. That's A-Y-S-H-A like ASIA on all social media. if you are missing hearing Jason Reed and I talk about Marriott First Sight because there's not a proper season on right now. You can catch us over on our Patreon, a perfect match podcast. We're recapping old seasons until, you know, we get the announcement of Marited First Sight season 19 over on Peacock.

There is no announcement yet. But in the meantime, Jason and Mayor Kukowski and I will be talking about Love is Blind season nine, which premieres on October 1st. So you can catch us there. Okay, great job tonight. Asia. Shannon? Yes, I just covered a strand survivor versus the world. So again, if you are a survivor fan who did not watch that, you made a big mistake, Q style. We had coverage, recaps. We have postseason interviews that are dropping, hopefully something else exciting soon

coming for that. We also, I will have Survivor 49 coverage, all on we know global survivor.com. Follow me at Shannon Gates. I'll have recaps after almost every episode. I'll skip a week when I go to America. But yeah, I'll be doing recaps on 49. I also just launched my own podcast, Gussing Around with my husband, Peter. You can find that on YouTube, Gussing Around Podcasts. You can look, find

it on Apple Podcasts and on Spotify where we're talking about our lives and podcasting and our interests and our pregnancy journey and all of that. So that is, the first episode of that is out and I would really appreciate yeah, I really appreciate anyone that's already checked it out.

And I heard the theme song is a hangar. Yes. Thank you. With an S. Thank you very much. Great tune. But now what is he?

Gusing around. Thank you. A few people have been humming it. They told me. And then Pooia. A lot of people have been shouting about how good the Traders Ireland has been, Rob. And me and Adam, I have having a good time covering it. We're about to wrap that up.

But then we got two more seasons of Traders coming in with the Celebrity UK season, debuting with season one in October and Traders Canada season three coming in as well so make sure you're tuned in for that we know traders that's where you can find that Leon already mentioned we have a good time on the pal come check that out find me on Twitch

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