RHAP: We Know Survivor - Survivor 49 Ep 3 NYC Live Show

Episode Date: October 9, 2025

Rob Cesternino hosts a thrilling live edition of Know-It-Alls for Survivor 49, joined by a star-studded cast of former contestants. The episode dives deep into the shocking snake bite incident that led to Jake's medevac and the strategic implications for the remaining players.

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Like NCIS, Tony and Ziva We'd like to make up your own rules Tulsa King take out the competition the substance this balance is not working and the naked gun that was awesome now that's a mountain of entertainment paramount was ready yeah yeah coming you live from the Tribeca Performing Arts Center. It's Rob has a podcast live. And now here's the guy who wouldn't mind going for a few dry bites after this tonight. Rob Sesternito. How are you all doing tonight? Hey, give it up for

Chappelle. Great job tonight. I'm so happy to be back here in New York. I'm so happy to be back here in New York. My home. My hometown. Can I say that? I'm from Long Island. Can I say that? Boy, do we have, what a night. We've done so many live shows tonight. We've never seen an animal attack on the live show, right? So we made history here tonight, and we're going to have a great show. We've got a great panels for you here tonight. It's going to be really, really fun, and so happy that you're here with us. So why don't we get this show started? First off, let me welcome back.

A great friend at a live show. We've had him here a bunch of times before, and I'm so thrilled to have back here the winner of Millennials v. Gen X. Adam Klein is here. Yes. How are you? Okay, grab a mic.

You want to sit next to you? Yeah, sit next to me to start. Sit next to me to start. Okay. We have like too many microphones now. Okay. Hi everybody. Hi everybody.

Turn on Adam Klein's damn microphone, okay? All right. Adam Klein said to me before, he's like, nobody wants to hear from me. I don't know. I don't know. What do you think? That's sweet, thank you.

Yeah. This is on, right? You're on. Okay. You're on, baby. Yeah. Adam, I feel like we have a lot to talk through here tonight. Yeah, I knew that Jake was alive coming into tonight.

Yes. And so that made it a little bit easier to watch. But at the same time, I was like, what is going on here? because I know that snake, I know about that snake. Did you help that snake get on Survivor? Like the snake had been trying since, really, for years to get on. All the years, he's like, I've been in Fiji all this time. Is this what it takes, Jeff?

Yeah. I got to bite somebody to get your attention. Yeah. So I had heard for many years that if that snake, bites you, you will die. Yeah. And so I was like, well, he's obviously not going to get bit. It's just a red herring. Like, I saw

the preview. I was like, oh, he's going to come near it or whatever. Like, so watching that happen, I was like, what has happened? Like, what am I about to go podcast? Like, he is alive, right? Like, I was like, so thank God. Wouldn't that be pretty bleak, you all came out here tonight

to watch a man die on television? I would have left. I would have left. I would have made you podcast this alone. That's like some like hunger game stuff that you aren't ready for. It's like, wow, like, that's 2025. Like, I go, I go, I go to go live podcast to go watch a man die on television. I did not know that it was possible to not deliver the venom. So that's really good news.

But it's hard to watch because that was scary. Yeah. And listen, I have always been a karma guy. But never more so tonight than when after all this stuff with the shoes. No. The one thing that would have saved Jake was one single shoe. You're, you, I cannot believe you actually just went there. It would have saved him.

But it was a beautiful, it turned out to be a beautiful story that he got home to see the birth of his baby. Thank God. You know, sometimes it worked. It works out the way it's supposed to me. It was like the universe was saying, what the hell are you doing here? Why are you here? When my first son was born, I missed Survivor Know It All's.

What? Yes. For a child? Yes. Why? Do you know, four days ago, my brother's wife just had a baby. Yes.

And I am missing. being there to be here for no and all. But I'm going there right after. All right. Give it up for Unk. Yes. Congratulations. Thank you.

I'm very, very excited. Okay, all right. So we have something pretty cool planned. We have a medical correspondent here to talk to us about everything. Please welcome. She has provided medical service before at the live show to wives of survivor contestants. Here she is Kelly Nalmandian. Woo!

Got a microphone ready for you. Thank you so much. How are you doing, Kelly? I'm great, you know. I'm living my Cedric McFadden dream right now. He's on the Today Show talking about medical stuff. Here I am to you serve his position. This is just as good, right?

Oh, not better? Okay, yeah. Just as good. No, it's better. Just as good. Good, okay. So, Kelly, we knew you were here tonight, so we were hoping that you could provide

some contacts to some of the... I mean, that was kind of exciting to see something... Rob! What? We almost watched a man die! He's fine! It's the adrenaline. How fun was that? He's fine. Isn't that way?

You get on the roller coaster and it's like, well, this is great. But then you get off, and it's like, everybody's okay. No harm, no foul, except for Jake's dream of being on Survivor. But for us, like, look, I've been saying like, hey, too much same-y-same, let's see something different. This was different. Got what you wanted. Yeah.

He says yes. So, Kelly, can you take us through what you were seeing in terms of what the survivor medical team did? Sure. So, as you all know, not to bring the mood down. This is a highly venomous snake. And the way that the venom works is that it's a neurotoxin. Yeah.

So if you do get bit with the venom, you will have a progressive paralysis. So it's very dangerous, okay? How quickly? Do you know? So one to three hours, you'll start to develop what we would call toosis, which was the, like, basically your eyelids drooping, which is why they were like, open your eyes, open your eyes, open your eyes. So that's where it starts, and then it would progress down your throat to your diaphragm and make you stop. So watching the episode tonight and knowing how serious of a snake bite that could be, do you feel like that they immediately knew like, okay, this is not a. life-saving intervention

because I kind of feel like would they have gotten the helicopter out there would they have moved even faster had they suspected that it was actually like his life was actually in danger I mean I don't know I think when they you see when they come onto that like pier they're screaming is he breathing is he breathing

because that's the biggest concern and they put oxygen right on him so they're I think they're treating it like that I don't think that potentially they realize what had happened until they got him you know on the boat So I think they treated it as if it was a true emergency, as they should have. They checked his oxygen, he's doing well, probably fine, but you can't be sure.

You said one to three hours and then things start shutting down. Like, can that be stopped? Yes, so if you have an anti-venom, which is created from horses and is not readily available. Horses? Yes, equine. Like glue? Maybe it used to be, I think. Glu, anti-venom, same thing.

Sam Phelan's a glue guy. He's a glue guy. I'm a glue guy. But, you know, I think they treated it as you needed to do, but there's really no ability to leave him there because it is possible that the venom got in and they didn't know. And if not, that would not be good news for Mr. Probes, as Jake would say. But if there was venom, would he have lived? I mean, that's what I'm kind of trying to figure out.

So there have been fatalities from this specific snake when the anti-venom is not available quick enough. But if they have a ventilator, they could keep him alive probably until he got to mainland Australia, which is my guess. Wow. Okay. Kelly, what did you think about the bedside manner of the other contestants?

I said out, I was up there. I was watching the nurse, she was like, he's freaking out. He's like, I have a baby van home. He's like, we're going to take good care of you. All that stuff I would do. And then they're like, your numbers are looking better than mine right now. I was like, I have said that joke 300 times in my career.

So the bedside manner is on point. I was a little sad not to see Dr. Joe. What about from Alex? What about from the other? Yeah. Alex, did they do a good job? I don't know. I forget what your job is.

You seem a little lawyerish. If not, you could be a nurse. I would support that, Alex. Okay? I'm looking right at you. I will tutor you. You have great bedside manner. Better to do that than to say, hey, I think you might die.

Yeah, you got to keep them calm. You gotta be real, but you gotta keep him calm. So I'll shout out to Alex. It's not ideal, but we're here for you. We're here. They did both Sophie, Alex Jeremiah, all of them handled it very well. Okay, there was a question whether or not he was going to be able to return to the game. Do you feel like that they were overly cautious with that?

Do you think that he would have been based off of just the shock from a snake bite, been able to return? I think probably, you know, probably he would have been okay, but taking that risk is pretty high and not worth it. Because also if there's venom, you can have kidney injury and stuff like that, which would be made severely worse by dehydration. So I think they made the right call. Sorry, that's not exciting. Keep in a real here, guys.

If that had, let's say, happened to you. Oh, I had an encounter with this snake. Yeah, what happened? Kendra McCoy saved my life, guys, and my survivor game. It's true. What happened? happened. So I killed a crab. It was pretty much the greatest moment of my survivor journey. Yeah. And I was celebrating in the water. Kendra was up on the rock. Did you thank the crab for

its life? No. Kendra did for me. That's why I kept her around. You know. She prayed over the crab just like Shannon. And we said thank you. And then the sea snake was coming towards me like aggressively and she screamed at me. And then none of us slept on the beach again because we were terrified of the sea snake. Oh, it came to you. You were not in the water. I was in the water. But it like in the shallows, you know? It was very dangerous. But if this had happened to you and they told you you're not going back in, would you have, like, protested and said, no, like, put me back?

Or would you have accepted your fate and said, okay, that makes sense here? I probably protested. I'm going to be honest. I mean, like, I feel like I've adequate medical training to keep myself alive. Yeah. I help Jake O'Kane, you know, we're good. Yeah. Just to be clear, it wouldn't have worked because once the doctors say you're done, you're done.

And I did feel like that Jeff set up Dr. Barry to be the bad cop a little bit there. Jeff was like, all right, all right, let's find out. Okay, so Dr. Barry, what is your prognosis on this? Would you say, as the person makes this call, would you say, and Jake, you do know what that means? But then at the challenge, he was like, there was no chance we would ever let him come back into the game after this. The decision had been made. Yeah, this was a very clear-cut decision for us. freaking brutal to make them run the challenge right after that.

And not just that. A water challenge, nonetheless. Jeff needs to improve his bedside manner, Rob, I think. Okay, he can learn a little bit from our friend Alex. Yeah, okay. All right, well, Kelly, thank you for talking us through. Absolutely, no problem. I'm sure this will the snake will come up again.

Everyone's alive. We're happy about it. And we'll see you later on in the show, okay? All right. You can leave the microphone. Or pass it like a baton. That's good. That's good. You had the idea. Yeah.

Okay. All right. So here's what we're going to do tonight that we have three different panels here. Because, you know, Adam, Survivor 50 is coming up. No. Have you heard this? No way. So Survivor 50 is coming up. And also they announced 22 of the 24 members for the cast. They also said two people from Survivor 49 are going.

to be on Survivor 50. I think Jake's got one of those spots. We have no idea. I think that, look, once they get him back to mainland and they check out the snake bite, like, they're going to I think that that's the no-brainer. Yeah, that I think so too.

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We've got here, I'm sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, my math is bad. 47 and 48. We can't have people from 49. Come on, come on. Maybe they're cousins, but. Maybe. All right, Survivor from Survivor 47 and 48. We've got Andy, Asia, Kyle, Rachel.

Saul, Stephanie and Tini. Yes, welcome. Yes. How's it going? Kyle. You won the power of Vito? Yes. Baby Andy and creator of puzzle hungry, Rachel.

Do we have enough chairs for everybody? Testing, okay. Don't put me out first again, guys. Okay. All right. We'll squeeze, we'll squeeze. I'll stand up. Don't stand.

Just sit next to me, Rob. Sit down, yeah, sit down, Andy. Okay. All right. Welcome new era of the new era. So nice to have, so nice to have such a nice turnout. Okay. We had an interesting vote here tonight

where we had three people from the Blue Tribe. And first of all, with this Blue Tribe, Listen, if I wanted to watch the same team lose after lose and lose, I already have the Jets on Sunday, okay? I don't need this from Survivor. But let me start, Stephanie. You were part of a tribe that, I mean, luckily, you didn't even have to see them lose that much. I got out of there pretty quick, Rob.

Yeah. You said, listen, I can see the writing on the wall. I know where this is going. Get me out of here. You have given me a lot more air time than I ever got on Survivor. and thank you. Could you tell, though, were the vibes, as they say, were they, did you tell was this giving disaster tribe?

On Kelle, is that how I, is that how we say it? No, I can't believe how jovial they are at Tribal. They're like up there giggling. They're having a really nice time. Since the first one. What? Since the first time they got there. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. That's crazy. They don't seem to have, like, they can't fucking stand each other energy. Like, that seems to be working in their favor. Okay. You think that's because they're blindsiding each other and none of them think they're going home or they're just happy people? Maybe like little bit of both?

I don't know. All right. Well, I'm glad that we have the new era of the new era here because these are our star students. We have winners here. We have people who have studied the game, done research, okay? So I think there was a lot to unpack. from a three-person tribal council of who made

the correct moves because there was a lot going on here. First off, did Alex make the right move by playing his idol? Yeah. Even though, you have three wins. You already have a 33.33% chance

you're going home regardless. And there's three of you. You don't know this is the game of Survivor. You can't trust anybody. So absolutely, he has to play that. You watch season 46. So many people went home. Yeah.

So Alex, good move, baby. Good move. Good math, Saul. All right. You know, because my reaction watching the episode was like, oh, my God, that this dummy is going to get voted out with an idol in his pocket. And this is going to be like the new, not quite Eric Reichenback, but I really thought, okay, that they are leading Alex to, he's not going to play his idol. He's going to get voted out. But then he did.

I was like, okay, yeah, that was a good idea. Yeah. But then the votes were, then there weren't two votes for him. So it was a roller coaster again. For those of you who have now been out there very recently, do you think that he thinks that there's a chance that tomorrow he can go out and find it again if they feel like a swap is coming up? Is there time for that?

Is it possible? Do we think one is getting re-hidden? I feel like if you find it, idol and you are the one person when you tried to do it, whether you're right or wrong, you're confident that, like, I'm going to be the next person to find it. Right? So I think that's sort of got to be in his

calculus, too. I'm the only one who's done this on the island. I have as much experience. I know where I found it. Other people don't know exactly that same spot, so I can sort of grid a little bit better than the next guy. Or go. Okay. How's so smart. All right. So now

let's talk about, from Sophie's perspective because I thought that Sophie was in the most interesting spot of the three because we heard Sophie at least in her confessionals she was telling us that she wanted to work with Jeremiah she wanted to vote with Jeremiah she wanted to blindside Alex what changed I think she made the right move because if she votes Alex then okay then she has no control over who Alex decides to send home. But by voting Jeremiah, the worst comes to worse is a tie because she's already got Jeremiah locked in.

She knew Jeremiah 100% was voting Alex. So I think she put herself in the best position not to just get idled out. I mean, I think she definitely made the right move from the perspective of she's actually building trust with Alex going forward. But I think one of the cool silver linings of a disaster type, and we see it a lot,

that they have the opportunity to actually play Survivor very early on. And so I feel like all three of them actually played really well tonight. And so we see Sophie doing like advanced moves, like pulling a Rachel spying on the conversation. That's something you do when you're broken into the game and you're really playing. So I think she did a really good job. I like that she thought to, you know, at least risk maybe voting for Alex because it would have been a really cool move. It would have been good, and she did her due diligence, but I think given the fact that, you know, they're going into a murder situation, it's good to have him still on his school.

I think the only reason that she shouldn't have done that is if he was just straight up like, I'm not playing it, we're good. You know, if he was really bought in and not, she spied on Jeremiah and him and could tell that it was different between her and him and Jeremiah and Alex, then maybe, but she made the right choice. But if somebody is saying to you, I am not going to play the idol, can you even believe that that's what they mean, or does that actually make you think more likely that he is going to play the idol? Yeah, I mean, it's easy to sit here and say that, but it's harder out there.

But I think that because she was able to look into the dynamics of the conversation between Alex and Jeremiah, she could have had a better read on how genuine the one he had with her was. I want to ask you guys about that because she reads from that conversation that Alex is going to vote her out, and then she goes to work, convincing him. why that's not a good idea, do we, one, think that Alex changed his mind and that her read was right and she actually changed his mind, or was this maybe what was going to happen all along? What does your guys take on that? My read was that he was just telling Jeremiah what he wanted to hear, and that he had built a tighter thing with Sophie.

you never know and I think it's really interesting because he could be as adamant as possible that he's going to play the idol and he was which is good gameplay but I think it always comes down to a split second gut decision whether like whether he felt he was going to play it or not and so it was nicey and we were kind of on the version of some really cool like niche voting scenarios like if he voted for Sophie they that would have been a triangle like it would have been a rock paper scissors we still don't really know what happens in that scenario so that is the benefit I'm kind of over the small tribes honestly they need

to vary it up. They do, they do, they do. I think it's really, it would be a lot better if a new player came in and they didn't know what they were facing, whether it was a tribe of six, whether it was a tribe of 10, what the, you know, the twist might be. So there's that.

And so we have nine seasons of a row in a row with this, but I do think coming out of that is like some cool, you know, maneuvers and scenarios specific to the small tribe. and we've seen a lot of it play out. I just hope they switch it up next. What's been the longest relationship any of you have had with a manicurist? Three years.

This is directly targeted towards me, isn't it? 2018. What is that? Okay, that's pretty good. A while. Like, actually my longest relationship ever. I was going to say, like, that is, Loyal B-word.

That is, what was that? Loyal B-word. Loyal, yes. Um, yeah, first of all, if somebody ever told me I've had the same nail tech since high school, I would say I'm taking you all the way to the end. That's it. Look, to answer Adam's question from before, I think the show has made it pretty clear that the core three of the core four on blue were Sophie, Alex, and Jake.

Like, it seemed even with Jake gone that the, two were going to work together. I think they did a good job building some suspense for us. And I do like understand the argument, but also Alex has an open idol. Like it's pretty clear where like Sophie's eggs in basket love island joke here. But like that's what she, that's the right call. And I think she makes the right call. And they seem like a really, really good duo. I think Like we saw this with Vula on my season. There is a difference between walking and to emerge coming off of a disaster tribe and really liking each other and really trusting each other and not.

And I think if you really trust each other, you can do a lot. But they're such an interesting duo in that that they basically, they had the same best friend, but they weren't friends, Sophie and Alex, where they were both Jake's number one. Jake's like, I have two number ones. Now Jake's gone, but the two number ones are there without him. Can they make it work? No, it's like, if you watch Big Brother, it's like Vinny and Lauren and Morgan. Okay.

Would not have worked together. Maybe a little bit different. So that's why I think... And they would have worked together great if he was gone, right? Well, no, that's why I think you have to give credit. Was it like Lauren and Morgan and Kelsey working together? Oh. Come on.

Fair point. What's fine? What's fine? Jeez, Rob. Well, that's why I think you have to give credit. You have to give credit to Sophie here because I think that, you know, we're missing so much of the conversation that afternoon. We got a bite-sized amount. So I think maybe he was voting Sophie and that conversation did change his mind.

If that conversation did change his mind, did Jeremiah do enough to try to get Alex. on his side. I feel like maybe the episode was trying to tell us that he wasn't. Of course, we don't see the full conversation so that could just be

the edit trying to show oh, Sophie did a better job at that. But from what we saw, do we feel like there was more that he could have done? I mean, he did call him the wrong name twice at trial. Not the best sign.

You're my number one, teeny. I'll take that. I'll take that. We're also not reading tarot cards. We're playing Survivor. So when he was talking about, hey, I don't remember his sign. Alex, what's your sign? A Libra.

Libra. He's like, I'm going to play it like a Libra. Such a Libra. It's like, you've got to fight a little bit harder, my man. You know, I was thinking about bringing up the Libra storyline and what that means, but I decided not to. But I might do it later. That's why I'm here. Are you a Libra?

Yes. Okay. Yes. Do we think that it's possible that Alex just at camp made it clear, like, hey, I'm playing my idol tonight. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, but you can't believe that. Right.

That's the point, right? I think at the end of the day, Sophie just took the bull by the horns and said, I'm staying home tonight. Yeah. Tina, you've been so quiet. What did you think about all of this? I'm just, I love listening to everybody talk about it, you know? I'm just learning. But I'm studying right now

I just think he has an idol They know he has an idol The merge is on the horizon We're all super fans at this point That's the whole thing Like there's no reality in which he's not gonna play it And I think Sophie knew that And I think she played it perfectly

Knowing that he was gonna play it But also protecting herself even if he did it So I thought it was great Yeah Looking ahead to where this goes now Okay so three people got voted out But then we had the fourth person With the MEDAVAC

Is it possible? Do we go to two tribes of seven? Is that possible? They said, they said it's going to be two tribes for the first time in the new era. Oh my God. We finally got bigger than six. Oh, my birthday came early.

Two tribes. Yeah, I'm so excited. We did it. The people want it. We did it, Joe. Yes. So how many Canadians came out here tonight to see your countrymen

sent home very sad you were here we don't even get it yeah how are the Blue Jays doing okay okay but yeah it was interesting to see also

the two people like a home in this episode Jake and Jeremiah the two Canadians also okay I just have something to say about the snake bite and I hear the medical consultant and I hear everything but I would be pitching a fit if I were him

to get back in the game. Like, it seemed like, I don't know. I understand the call, but I also would be like I'm perfectly fine. And so that angered me as somebody who like would be devastated if that happened and was completely I gotta say people take it pretty well. Like I feel like that, you know, Jake's on

the bed and they tell him you're not going back into the game. He's not like ripping the things off. I'll be back in. He's like, okay, I got it. You know, everybody. Rob, I will say he's about to be a father and I put myself in his spot because I'm about to be a father in about a month and a half. And I put myself in his position.

It would be an easy call at that point. It's like, okay, I tried. I already took the risk of missing my child's birth. Enough is enough. I got to go home. I mean, yeah, it does feel like it was a sign. I hope that Jake is doing okay and is at peace with all of this. He got to go have an adventure and then make it back just in time.

It's a nice, it's a nice survivor story. Okay? All right. From this panel, I feel like that we have, you know, so many greats here. Anything else that you want to share with us and everybody around the world? No, Rizzo cooked this episode. Yes? R-I-Z-G-O-D.

I want to say real quick that I appreciated the lack of celebration from the two tribes because I remember when Lavo lost twice in a row Gabe freaked out a little bit too much and it made me irate but Gada was very respectful and silent and it made a difference and so that call was very resonant to me

yeah we talked about that when we got back from challenges we're like teeny hates what Tuckoo is doing the next time Rachel and Anika crush a puzzle we have to be dead silent and they weren't at work

Give a little context for those of you who are not in this room and were not here, it was dead silent in this room as well. Dead silent. Not a single, I mean, there was a small smattering of applause when the Yellow Tribe won, and then when the challenge was over, you could hear a pin drop. It felt the same here. See, still. Wow.

Okay. All right. Anything else from our panel? Get your hungry post. Puzzles, baby. Yes. Rachel had a whole raffle going on in the lobby tonight. How did it end up going?

That was great. Thank you, everybody. It's like, I don't know, Rob's been so generous. There's a podcast where we talked about it. You played with your family. Talked like over an hour about it. And, yeah, go check it out if you have it. And please check out the Kickstarter. Yeah, it means a lot. Yeah. All right.

Thank you to the new era of the new era. Thank you, Rob. Thank you. Thanks, Rob. Thanks, Adam. Okay. All right, please pass the batons off to

the middle era of the new era. All right. See you guys later. All right. Here, joining us to celebrate the middle era of the new era, even though they're not mid. Here we have, oh, it's Franny, Jake, Brandon, Maddy, a surprise.

Hey, Kelly, Nelbandian's back. I have no mic. Did somebody steal the microphone? Got it, I got it, don't worry about it. That's it. Check the new era people. I don't think it's working. All right, we'll get them all working.

I apologize. Franny has two. That's part of the problem. Franny, they, they, they, they. Get cozy. Okay, here we go. All right, are we got this? They gave Frannie a microphone for Matt, too, even though he's not here.

Yeah, Matt got a little shy. The snake thing really shook him up, but he's feeling better now, and he will be at the after party. So nobody worry about that. Okay. We weren't worried until you told us not to be. Okay, okay. Matt's fine. No, he's fine.

He's here. Are we sure, though? Matt just won the raffle. Matt won the raffle? Wow. Lucky and love and raffles. Okay. All right.

How are you all doing tonight? I'm not happy to find out that we're the mid-new era. You're the middle of the new era, the middle of the new era. I didn't feel so good about that. You're the middle child of the new era. Yeah, and I don't know if I like that. Maddie is a quintessential middle child, so maybe you can speak better to the connotation.

That's for therapy on Monday. You got a crowd here. Anything else for any? Okay, I have something to say. I'm only going to say one thing. Okay. So I disagree with Kelly. In that, I do agree that Alex and his tribe mates were like a good vibe with the snake.

But like there's two kinds of people because like in my opinion, you guys remember Marianne with Jackson. Like Jackson wasn't going to die. And like at my funeral, like I don't want it to be quiet. Like I want people screaming like Mary Ann. So like I would be pissed. Piss like if a snake bit my foot and like Alex is there like just like you know it's not good it was in the book I'd be like scream you want Marianne there to be like oh my god you're gonna die like scream even higher scream and cry right now because if this is the last thing you're gonna see you at least want to be celebrated

Maddie you don't have a medical emergency in front of me I will scream instead of take care of you I don't know if this is a sort of subject were you there when Matthew fell off the rock I don't want to talk about it We'd love to know what the reaction was. I was like, so K and him, right? But they cut it out. They cut it out. That's like not classy. So that's all I'm saying.

I saw a lot of people pumped up. I was checking out chat BCC. They were pumped up. The rule book came out tonight with the snake. That was insane. That kind of felt like private. Like I felt like somebody was. searching through my underwear drawer. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, that's my rulebook.

You know what? I was excited because I didn't know they still had the rulebook. They have the rule book, but the only one that people know about is that snake. Like anything else in that book, I think for the most part, there's no idea, right? Everything's fine except for this one snake. Yeah, the one snake. They tell you, that's the snake. Don't go buy that. Did you guys have any interactions with the snake? Well, no, but I was just, again, shocked that there wasn't screaming, panic, because that is really the one thing they said. Like, my takeaway was, if the snake bites you, there's nothing we can do. They were like, oh, God, was that, was that the snake?

Shit. Was that that one or was that the other one? Check the book. Would you guys have needed to consult the rule book or would you just have known? I did not. We knew that. That's the, yeah, exactly. That's the snake. Is the experience that you see a snake on survival? Like, get the book. Is that, is that an okay snake? I was pooping one time. Okay. And or attempting to. and that snake was nearby, and it scared me, you know what, list, right? I was out of, yes. And did that help or hurt the poo? Oh, I didn't, poo.

Oh, I didn't, no, I was about to, I saw that, I said, I'm out of here. I, like, tried to. Right or flight, you know? Like, like, just move as slowly as possible, because the one thing they tell you about the snake, in addition to the fact that it will kill you if it bites you, is that it will not bite you. Like, it's not gonna, it doesn't attack you

unless it's provoked, it hangs out on its own. It's like, its own thing. So I don't know, I don't know what happened, but don't provoke that snake. And so just slither away, nice and slither. Well, we really didn't see the lead up to the moment that the snake latched on. Yeah.

What was Jake doing? He was like, eh, you suck snake. Like, you won't bite me. They really say, like, don't provoke it. and it kind of just seemed like he maybe provoked it. We didn't see it, I don't know. We don't know. We don't know. We don't know. We don't want to presume. Snakes don't have feet. They can't hide their shoes.

But did any of you guys have any close encounters with this snake? Or what was the most dangerous? Was there any time when you were out there that you felt that something was legitimately dangerous, that somebody might die, that whatever? The only snake I encountered with a snake. I didn't have an encounter with a snake, but I did have an encounter with the rule book because I just, love that it's in the Survivor font. You know, they went the extra mile. They changed the font. You would. You would. I didn't notice that, man. That's a deep cut.

You know what I mean? They got some great graphics people on that team. You know what I mean? We'll throw them a little bone. We know they like this font. They should sell it on the store. They should. Where's it on the store? Can I make a comment about Jeff? Yes. There had to have been a phone call, like a radio from somebody in the production at Jeff.

Like, hey, like, Jake, we're taking him to base camp. He got bit by the snake. And Jeff had to have been like, do I have time? change. Yeah. Into the survivor shirt. He's just always wearing that. Yeah.

I want to know, it's like, you know, he's, I've seen him casually, you know, not at a bar, like it's on the island, you know, but he's got a t-shirt, you know, but I like the idea of him, like, suit up. I got a suit up. It's like in the Incredibles. Time to go see him and die. You've got all the thing in the closet. Jake, it seems like you may have had a dangerous encounter of some kind.

We did. Kelly and I both had a dangerous encounter. We ran right into a shock. and like we're fishing first. Yeah, yeah. A shark. A shark. First day, we just got the fishing equipment.

So we're like, yeah, let's go like aquaman this and like let's get some fish. We caught nothing. Actually, that's not true. No, he caught a poisonous puffer fish first. It didn't look like a puffer fish until it was dead. He lifts it up out of the air so proud and it was just a moon. And then it just...

And bigger and bigger. But, yeah, no, we ran into a shark in the Pagian guys, you know, who are like helping us out, making sure we don't die, we're laughing at us. Yeah, we were like sprinted out of the water. Needless to say, came right up, wiggled a little bit, trying to say hi. I felt like it was aggressive.

It was aggressive behavior. It was freaking out, yeah. We sprinted out and the Fijian guys were literally cracked. I didn't know I could know. They were like, you are, this is sad. Now, Jake, any pride tonight in being, I believe still the ultimate survivor Jake? I mean, you know, you know, you know,

The man just almost died. It's a weird way to take that award when he almost died. But, like, you know, sure. Yeah. Hey. Do I get an Emmy for that? You know, I'm like the fourth Survivor Kelly, so take it and run, Jay. All right?

I'll take it. I'll take it. Probably the more like the seventh. Yeah, that's, I don't know about seven. There have been a lot. There have been named them. Yeah. Brandon, I'm surprised you didn't have any run-ins with a snake.

No, I stayed away from the water. after those first couple minutes, you know? I'd like to just be dry. I thought you wanted to stay in the water. It seemed like you wanted to stay. Haven't we grown? Hasn't it been long enough? No, I saw no snake, but I feel empathy.

You know, Jake's, you know. Okay. Can I ask about another potential medical issue that we have Kelly here tonight? So tonight we saw a lot of group idol hunting. MC found an eye she found the beware advantage in a mystery liquid yeah she proceeded to put the burlap beware advantage that had been soaking in mystery fluid for some time into her underwear okay is this is this any medical concern you know I would have to you know get a test strip out and test

that mystery liquid, Rob. I think it's probably fun. It's probably fine. Don't we think that that mystery liquid is just probably water? She didn't say it was water. It could be soft. It could be a little wrong. I think she'll be all right, though.

Maybe a little rash, but you know. Yeah. Sophie's skin is falling off, so that's nothing. Didn't see that whole discourse in line? Yeah, it was a band-aid for... Don't ruin the ruse, Rob. The people that are... She's that hardcore.

that are concerned. Did I miss something? What's her skin falling up? Yeah. I don't ever need to hear the words core four ever again. You know who we can thank for that? Fricking Reba. Reba.

You invented the core four? No, but they are making, they're the mid-new era that made it popular and everyone thinks they can do it again. Yeah. Do you guys think that now having all experienced the three-tribe format, would you like to see something different for

Survivor 51. I said this on Chap CCC of like even pre-season 40. All the cool kids are on chat PCC. Let me do a plug. Pre-season 40, most of the three tribe formats that they did, they also have disaster tribes. You're going to get a disaster tribe when you do this more often than not. So just like the seasons 1 through 10, you sign up for Survivor, you go there, you don't know what you're getting. You know, you don't know what color you're going to be on. You don't know how many tribes there's going to be, how many people you're going to play with. And I hope that Season 51, we can do that again. Yes.

But how many core fours can there be in the season? Like when you get to the merge, like, well, who's in your core for? Who is in the core for on your tribe? Well, right now only two, because one of the tribes only has two. I guess so. And I have a question because I'm not good at this stuff. The other tribe's core melted down. Sorry, Rob, you were on a roll and I just cut you off.

No, you're good. When was the last time we had only two people in a tribe? Because that's really... Okay, so... Philippines? Yeah, so we had it with Survivor 41, and we may talk about that, coming up in our... Just to tease our next segment.

We also had it with Malcolm and Denise. Mm-hmm. And then famously with Stephanie and Bobby John. Bobby John. You really know this show, don't you, Rob? Look at that. It's happened a couple times. So it's happened a couple times.

Emily and Caleb Laugh. Yeah. I don't know. I think that's cool. I like that about, I like when they dwindle. I mean, if you survive the dwindle, it's like,

such a badge of honor. So we're keeping it. The three tribe formats here to stay. Not like we said that. Get it out. Get it out. Get it out. Are you listening?

Yeah. Do we think that Stephanie and Alex will end up going to, I'm sorry, Sophie and Alex. Stephanie Berger. Sorry, we wish, we should wish Stephanie comes back. Sophie and Alex will go to two different tribes

like they did with Malcolm and Denise where it was just like, okay, you're on one side, you're on one tribe. I think they have to do a full shake-up. Like after everything that has happened for Jeff to go to them and say, and now I'm going to separate you, be like, no, no, that's the only person.

They've got to do a full draw, right? From scratch. Could they just give one to each tribe and say, okay, there is no more blue. That's so cruel. That's like here on a platter. The next person for you to vote out. The only reason I say that is because we found

two people tonight that found idols that said, you've lost your vote until your tribe loses a challenge and the idol is hidden under the boat and at the well. Which I don't know how they make the idol hidden under the boat. What if they move the boat?

The boat's hard to move. The boat's nobody's moving the boat. Nobody's moving the boat. The boat just stays there the whole time. It's like an accessory. Like nobody's touching that thing. It's a prop. It's more of a prop. Where are we going to go?

Were you going to like boat away somewhere? The first night of my tribe, we put the boat in the shelter. We tried to sleep on the boat. And if you've seen the boat, it's not like, it's not flat. It's not like this. We're all inside. And then I don't want to say the F word. But after we kept losing, I said we put the boat in the house and now we're effort.

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plus 20% more points when you link an eligible RBC card to your Petro points. Find out more at RBC.com slash Petro-Dash Canada. Conditions apply. I've got a question for you guys about the swap that's coming up because what we just saw

was Alex and Sophie vote together, bond over this, they said we're together, but it was a realistic possibility that with Alex playing his idol that Sophie could have voted against him. So going into a swap, is that maybe a story then that the two of them could come up with, that they did not, in fact, vote together, that Alex played his idol and she actually tried to vote him out.

And is that something that they might be thinking about and coming up with going into the swap? Yeah, if they're going into a swap, they've got to act like they're not close there. I mean, it depends on the setup, right? Like, is it a 2-2-2 swap? How many people are left? 14. 14. So if it's 7 and 7, right?

And you're like, you're math real quick. Don't look at me. Yeah, fake it. They're not close. That's what I would do. I think that it works either way because Alex is probably a little bit upset that Sophie really encouraged him not to use the idol, knowing that he was probably going to actually use it and then didn't even force him to use it, didn't even vote for him.

Sophie knew that Alex did not actually need the idol and Alex played it anyways. I think they could play it up either direction. Alex could go in and be like, oh, like, Sophie. could have told me really not to use the idol and tell me that she was really voting with me. She didn't do that. I think they have to go in and act like they're not aligned, but frankly, I don't think anybody's going to believe them. If they end up on the same tribe, it's clear that they're working. Do you think that Sophie got what she wanted out of this and that she hoped that he would play the idol so that she could then find it? Yes, I think Sophie gives us the

hell out of that. She did so well. Yeah, because she had said all along that one of the things she really didn't love was that Alex had the idol we saw where she was trying to steal it from him when he was looking for it. So she didn't love the fact that he had it and so I feel like that now if they're back on equal footing, I think it sort of like resets the relationship. I am

curious from a production point of view and I don't actually know the answer to this. Is they're going to, if they are swapping the next day, are they going to rehide that idol in the few hours that they have before they go to a challenge? Is there a chance for them to find it again? I suspect not. I feel like

I'm trying to think back to... It's never happened before, as far as I'm aware, where somebody finds it, like, you know... Ben did it. Didn't Ben do it? Also, Bruce found it immediately before we merged. Yeah. But there's a difference between it's been there the whole time versus somebody just played it

and are they going to rehite it when they are swapping the next day. I'd be surprised. Yeah. We'll see. I have a question. Rapid fire. Yes. Okay.

Imagine you're in a Sophie and Alex situation if you're the last night. Just down the line really quick, I want to know who everyone would hope they would be with if it was you in the situation. So if you were on like a Matt Singh type track, who would you want to be with, realistically, from the survivor person? Like the last person I would want to be stuck on the Desert Island with? The top person, not the last one. Well, I, okay, yes. But it was me, okay.

Let's start with Franny. Yeah. Out of anyone? Any Survivor player? Like, okay, maybe let's make it. Or on this season, on this season. No, no, no. That would be so awkward they're here.

It has to be like from your, your tribe. Okay, hello. Yeah. Matt, come on. Really? Your tribe. Answer carefully, Jake. Yeah, mine's easy.

I'll give it to Caleb. Give it to Caleb. Oh. I honestly, I spent a lot of time with Survivor people. I think I won Julie for my season of Survivor. I think me and Julie, we rock and roll. Mine's Kane. I love Kane. Listen, if this happened to Bella, it would have been me and Brando, baby.

I'm taking him all away. I don't know. That's a tough question. I'm going to go with the young legend Jolinsky. Wow. He play on a season? Has to be on your season? Does he have to? That was the original.

No, it's the premise. Okay. From, you know, probably Jay. That's my brother. Aw. Wait, Rob, you're not getting off, and then we're going to... Yeah. I have to be careful how I answer this.

Butch sounds like a great answer to me. Okay. All right, well, to the middle school of the new era, is there anything else that you want to add? Bye. By Puzzle Hungry. Sign on for the Kickstarter. Puzzle Hungry. Puzzle Hungry is so fun.

So fun. if you have not played it. Really good. So get out there. You give the Kelly Tribe the puzzle-hungry game. Yes. Give it to them. They can work on it.

They need the practice. And then, okay, our next tour stop, Frannie, we'll see you in San Francisco next month. Better be coming to San Francisco. It's going to be very much time. How many of you are going to be with us in San Francisco? Okay. All right.

Not nothing. The most loyal fans. But that's why we had a show on the East Coast also. You didn't have to come to both. No peer pressure. All right. Thank you all so much. Thank you guys.

And we have one more panel. We have for you, some folks here, they are the OGs of the new era. They got the new era started, okay? They didn't know what the new era was going to be. They went to Fiji anyway. And here they are to talk about it. Mike Turner is here.

What's up, Mike? From Survivor 41. Tiffany and Evie are you here? Baby, how are you? Hey, Evie. Dwight's here. James Jones, Lindsey Carmine, and Jacob Derwin

from 39-day-era Survivor. Survivor. Check, check. And the floor. And the floor. Let's go. Yes. Okay. He missed the floor that he missed the episode to be here. Wow. And you think missing a birth is the big deal. Yes. Yes.

Sorry, sorry. I'm so sorry. Jacob Derwin, everybody. How about that? Oh yeah. No, you got it. You got absolutely. Yeah. So, I I understand you are on the floor this season. Yes, that's right. It's the show you should be watching at Wednesdays at 8 p.m. Obviously, I mean, Jeff is great.

But have you seen Rob Lowe? I mean, look at that. Sure. Look at that Botox, baby. What is your area of expertise on the floor? Beatles songs. Oh. Beatles songs.

Okay. Yes, that's... Can we go down the... Do you all know what the floor is? No. Oh, my God. It's going to become the floor. The show?

We can do it, yeah. I know. We'd love to know what everybody's area of expertise would be. Yeah. So the floor is the show that you have your thing. I am the expert in the world. You're going to give us the whole lowdown. And then you battle other people.

Adam, what is you? What are you the world's greatest expert in? I mean, it's hard sitting right next to you. But of the group, I mean, I'd probably survive. That would be my... Imagine going on your direct competitor's show. I'm being like, actually, I want to talk. about what's going on on Channel 2 right now.

That's all right. At the exact same time. James, what are you the world's greatest expert in? This is a very interesting question. Yes? I would say grilling. I'm the best here. The best of grilling. I'm the best here in this room right now.

Wow. I will challenge anybody, well, I will challenge anybody here and win. Pointing period. Lindsay, what are you the world's greatest expert in? Taylor Swift. Okay. There has been a... A lot of competition for that.

A lot of competition for that. That has happened. Okay. Dwight? Not a damn thing. Oh. No, come on. But I'd say board games.

I probably go to board games on that. Hell yeah. Okay. Evie? I mean, they don't call me doctor for nothing. Neanderthals and evolution. Neanderthals, okay. But Tiffany.

Does this work? Oh, it works. Yes. Um... I think I'm going to say reading people. Oh. Yeah. Okay.

I am. I am and you know what I think about you. It's different facial expressions, one guy. I co-sign. You co-sign. Amazing reader of people. And what about you, Mike? The rules of survivors.

I'm a freaking English teacher. God. I'm the most knowledgeable at Metz history. Wow. Okay. That'd be fun. I want to ask Jacob if the Beatles was your top choice or did you have one that you would have Does anyone actually care about this?

For the inside info on the floor, yeah, you give them a bunch of categories and they either give you one you like or they give you something else entirely and you kind of have to do. Luckily, that was when I submitted. That was like how they used to do your luxury item. You used to tell them, here's the thing I want to bring. They said, well, what else do you have? Do you have an acoustic guitar? We could use this firewood. We don't like any of the things that you want to bring.

What else? So that's reality TV, baby. Okay, we mentioned Survivor 41 was the last time that two people got down to a tribe of two for Evie and Tiffany. What was it like to see the Oa tribe get down to just Ricard and Shan? We were happy as hell.

Yeah, well, because here's the thing. Did you celebrate when they lost the challenge? Yeah, exactly. That Jeannie was going to go home? Listen, we love Jeannie, okay? But we thought it was going to be us. Remember, we couldn't find our oars on the boat at all. We never even got off the marooning boat.

And then we lost the first two, so we thought it was going to be us. But then I kicked ass in challenges, and so... Yeah. And I thought, you know, there's no way this Xander Idol thing could possibly blow up my face because he's not going to be here because we're going to be the disaster tribe. And that's not what happened. Yeah. And then that blew up in my face.

And here we are. But I do think it's the classic thing. You are, like, they kind of are free agents. And I think that was, it's, you know, it's a pro and a con. Like, I think they had a lot of room to move in the game because, you know, they've got these two people, everyone can try to pull them in. But then, and they really did on our season

get into an amazing position, you know, at some point, Shan is really running the game. But I do think the fact that they were only two and the end did come back to bite them when at the end of the day, Louvo, they had the numbers. They were fractured like hell, but they did have the numbers and they voted together a lot of the time.

And once the murder, happened, they started the merge in like pretty good positions, even though they didn't have numbers. Yeah, really sucked. That's my two cents at 10 o'clock at night. Sucked. Yeah. I mean, we could talk about snakes if you want. What do you have to say about snakes?

I mean, nothing anymore because everybody else talked about snakes, so I'm over it. Are you guys over it? I mean, we could talk about it if you want. Forget it. It's over. It's over. No snakes. No.

Moving on. Amazing. Snake in the grass. You didn't leave us with very much, you know. It's almost 11 o'clock. Wednesday today. Would you... We're talking about the floor.

It's very sad situation. 41 always gets the shit end of the stick. Should you open the podcast next time? What? Should you open the podcast next time? Yes, maybe, you know, go in order, 41, 42, 43. We're the later days of the new era, obviously, and some of our friends get a little tired. Yeah, we're like the oldest panel here.

Not kidding, they're too tired. Right? We're like the later years over here. I've never outnumbered people on this thing ever. You're not. You're not. We're like, you know, dying over here. After party, we're like, after what?

I've been in bed for like three hours, but... You know, this is an optional event, right? Well, you know, Evie was coming into town, so it's not so optional when Evie comes in to you have. We're still two. Okay. And shout out to Quiggs. Let me ask James and Lindsay about the group idol hunting

that seems to be a phenomenon now in Survivor 49. I guess that's a new thing. It's cool. I mean, this is working. then they got the idol, but then everybody knows it. I mean, I don't know. Like, Alex is safe, so it works for him. Whoever gets it is your idol, but it's not a group idol.

But why is this happening? Because people watch it home and they're like, you got to keep the idol to yourself. Everybody always says when they watch, you got to keep the idol to yourself. Don't tell anybody, don't tell anybody. And yet time and time again, people come on the show and they end up either sharing it immediately as soon as they find it with somebody else or going and talking about.

So what is it about the new era that makes people feel like, Like, they must confide in their tribe about this. I think it's because the new era is filled with a lot of super fans and they want to tell people they found an idol. And the only people there are people in their tribe. So they wind up telling them. Which you should never tell them. Yeah, but, okay.

Well, Lindsay, what's your disagreement? I mean, I think when, you know, we kind of talked about looking together, it was a way to establish or show trust. Because anytime someone goes off by themselves, and you guys got to see that book, it's in this giant box and we can go off by ourselves to check it out. But oftentimes you go the long way or you say you're going to go somewhere and you're looking for idols. And so I think its intention is to offset all the amount of times that you're looking for an idol by yourself. It's kind of like, why don't we, here's an idea, look for an idol. And you're like, bullshit, you've been looking for an idol for six days.

And I've been watching you. And so I think that's the purpose of it, but I could be wrong. Also, another thing, like, this season, both tribes that did this group idol hunts, they haven't had to go to tribal for six days. Boredom sets into some players. And it's like, let's just do something, say something. And you're not going to be the guy to say, no, I want to go on my own, right? Like, you kind of have to go with the group at that point and be like,

yeah, group idol hunt, we're just, like, dying inside. But did you guys go on a group idol hunt? Hell no. Okay. But especially when you're playing kumbah, I Survivor, you're not really trying to break anything up until you go to tribal. So it's kind of like, what's the point?

Like, the first person to crack and really go is the person that you're going to say is paranoid and vote them out. Also to Adam's point about, like, why does New Era do this? Like, because in old era, it's just you find it idle in the jungle, it's your idol, you're done. New Era is you find an idol, you're going to lose your vote, you're going to have a task of some kind

and you need to inform your allies, potentially that you're not going to have that vote because so there is a level of the game, game is designed to now encourage players to share that information because it leads into what's going to happen at Tribal, theoretically, if they don't have their vote. The guy had a chain on him. Yeah. Wait, are we skipping over the part where he had to carry around a loud ball in chain? Yeah, so this is a good point.

So I really think that over the course of the new era, like the evolution of the beware advantage from where it started in 41 and 42, Mike, when you had to say the crazy crazy phrase. I really believe butterflies are just our ancestors. Right. You could do that. You could do that and you could keep that a secret from your tribe. But now that as Jacob mentions, like, the task that they have to do is impossible for one person to do. So you kind of need to, I think, recruit the tribe to help you pull this off because you can't get the thing by yourself. There ain't no sugar shack, man.

You're right there at the well with the guy with the chain and the thing. Yeah. But, you know, we do see variations, right? Like, it seems like Rizzo came out, told the whole tribe, MC just told Stephen, right? So I think we still are seeing some variations in this. And, like, I'm curious to see how those will play out. Rizzo was great vibes at the time. Who knows who in the tribe is thinking, oh, shit, Rizzo has that idol.

I don't know if I like that so much. So we'll see. Jacob, I want to get your, oh, sorry, go ahead. I have a really good take because I'm good at this. I don't think it's that deep. I think people get scared as shit and they're like, I have this thing and they don't trust themselves

because we're tired, we're hungry. We want some feedback. And I think that there's a lot of fear when you have something that nobody else has and you need somebody to bounce it off. That's what I really think it comes down to sort of that human nature of like, oh my God, I'm by myself

and now I'm really by myself with this thing. So I think it comes down to like fear. I disagree 100. What the fuck? You just sat here and said something really raunchy, and I didn't out you, and now you say that, so... No, I just disagree. I don't think they're afraid. Why?

Why? They want to tell people. No, they want to tell people, because why are they telling people? I had an idol. I wasn't afraid at all. Not one bit. I was happy as hell. I was scared shit.

I don't know what the hell might be where I was where we were. Nobody understood shit. It was always... Nobody understood shit. No, even the people there. I mean, now that they busted out that book, which that was a secret, yeah, I kind of felt franny with that.

It was like picking our shit, and now everybody knows about the book. We took the book out to look for a nut to see if the nut was edible. Once, we did do that. What do you have to say, Lindsay? We need to talk about the book for a second. Yeah, let's talk.

They tell you that you can identify plants and fish and spiders and stuff. You cannot identify. identify these photos because they are like printed on a printer that was made 20 years ago and then they've laminated it so many times and so there is this giant lime tree and we're looking at the producers as the first couple of days on Cocoa Beach and and James and I are like holding up the limes and we're like can we eat these or can we not eat these and the producers are like I don't know and so we go and get the book and there's like limes you can't eat

this other fruit that you cannot see that might or might not look exactly like a lime, that is poisonous and you cannot eat that. And we're not gonna tell you which one it is and the photos are so bad, have fun with it. I think the snake was the best picture in the book. The pro tip for anyone who's gonna go out there is you take the thing in your mouth

and you find one of the local Fijian guys and you go like this. And if they just sit there, like, whatever, you're good to go. And if they go, then you know. That's how you're right now. That is not what you do. That is not what you do. You go right up to a producer and you put the fruit right in front of your face and start to take a bite.

Literally, the look on their face tells you everything you need to know. But I'm telling you, those local Fijian guys, they know better than the producers what you can and cannot put in your house. I'm trying to make good TV, you know, like it's going to work or it's not. No, it's true. It's true. That's what you do it. I want to know where Brandon saw Jeff Prope's casually dressed. Yeah, that was bizarre.

I would like to know where that happened. Have any other survivor players seen him in casual wear? One time. One time for two seconds before we left for the jury trip. But, I mean, it was a pretty simple ad. But he easily could have put a blue button up over that any time. Yeah, easily. Maybe underneath.

Yeah, it could have. Yeah. But Jeff's makeup was perfect. like he came from like the light hit on about perfect it was amazing you know it's possible that he was ready for the challenge that day and then they diverted him to then just go to the other thing instead of the challenge because I feel like they would have had their challenge right I want to go back to that why did Jeff ask them when they're going to compete hey hey are you guys ready to go yeah what are they going to say what do you guys think about telling them at

The challenge. Terrible. I didn't like that. Go for it. They have a terrible. They have all the times we sit in the tent. So what, two hours? Then they have the time that we're having to go over the challenge,

the time that we're like getting off the boat, the ride. Like let them process that emotionally. If you want the best outcome for them and, you know, Jeff, before you run challenges, everything's about fairness. Jeff, if everyone's, like if one whole tribe's back has turned, then everyone has back has to be turned. But anyway, Jeff goes over. There's plenty of time. I don't understand why he didn't just tell them.

And do we think that that was a particular disadvantage for the Blue Tribe to get that information right? Yes, it wasn't fair. They were so close on the puzzle. God. Yeah. Okay. Dwight, I feel you had something before. We moved on from that.

We went to, what were you talking about? I'm not Tiffany, little damn. Me? I wasn't talking about anything. Did you know there's these crazy flightless birds. Oh, yeah. That live on some of them. On our beach, there weren't snakes.

But there were these birds that screamed. Same beach. Yes. They ran over my face and I was sleeping on the first night. Yes, they run straight into the fire, into your face. And they say you can't eat them because they're quote unquote endangered.

And they make big holes in the ground. And I went right into one when I went to pee at night. I'm trying to think I was on a different show. You weren't on that. You're on a different beat. You were on a different beach. Our beach was from hell. The worst beach.

Ever, by far. We had the best beach. It was a lot of food. We had fruit. We had fish. We had peppers. Yeah, they had everything. We had nothing.

All right. Pepper. Back in my day. Yeah, we're like a bunch of old. Yeah. All right. Let's, let's bring it back to center. Okay.

What did we learn tonight? Nothing. We learned that when people think you're rigging the live show to pick the best episode. Sometimes there's a snake medevast. that you have to talk to. I mean, this was the best episode of the season, Evie. Two medical experts. Mike, how would you handle a snake bite?

What? I'm gonna tell you, how would I? Yeah. I'm like, Jonathan, come here, suck this out of my leg right now. Oh! Let's got the bed, I'm sucking out, Jonathan. And he would do that for me. Mr. Mike, it's a dry bite.

As long as it's lower on my leg, anything above the knee, he's gonna tell me I'm on my own. And you would die to protect your nationality. Mike, the doctor said you're going to die. Yeah. Okay. May we never need to know. All right.

From the OGs. Any other final thoughts tonight? We're OGs? The OGs of the new era. Oh my God, we're OG. This is really screwed up, man. It was nice knowing. I'm like 30 years old.

This is not right. I don't know. Any Broadway fans in here? Any what? My wife's on tour with the first national Broadway tour of Hell's Kitchen. Please go see it in a town near you. That's what I'm here to

screw the floor. I'm here to promote her. There you go. Go Phil's. Yeah. Go. It's been a rough sauce. Yeah. All right. Well, first off, thanks to the OGs of the new era here.

You're welcome, Rob. You're very much welcome. Okay. I killed it. Let me thank Adam Klein for being here with us co-pilot for this show tonight. How do you feel? Well, I found out today that I was doing this, so I had plenty of time to prepare.

What would you have done extra to prepare for this? I don't know. Maybe, I honestly don't know, but I probably would have been anxious for a little bit longer. You can't prepare for the live show. Yeah. And I want to thank all of you for coming out on a school night to see us here once again. I have so much fun when we do this

I can't wait to get to see everybody tonight when we go out for the after party of course check out everything else we have coming up this week we've got the old school interview my exit interviews and so much more so we appreciate you so much to everybody who's watching us here

we'll see you in San Francisco if you want to come out and see us then on November 5th Thank you to everybody here at the Tribeca Performing Arts Center. And of course, Sam and Derek and Brandon, Chappelle, and everybody who all make the live show possible. And thank you, Rob Sesternino. Thank you, Rob Cessernino. I appreciate you.

Thank you all, everybody. Samantha Myth, the Legend, Riz God Sesternino. Drive home safe, everybody. Thank you.