RHAP: We Know Survivor - Survivor 49 Preseason Interview: Sophie Segreti

Episode Date: September 8, 2025

In this preseason deep dive. Sophie, a strategy associate at YouTube, shares her journey from being an alternate on Survivor 48 to securing a spot on the current season, offering unique insights into her preparation and mindset.

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Conditions apply. Scotia Bank, you're richer than you think. Hi, everybody, and welcome to our Survivor 49 preseason interviews here on Rob has a podcast. My name is Mike Bloom, and we are starting to reach the end of my preseason interview series. We got our second to last interview going on today, as I will talk with Sophie Sogretti. Sophie ends up sharing a lot with her fellow Survivor 49. castaways, whether it be her name with one particular castaway or her origin story getting onto the show.

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Let's get into what you need to know about Sophie Segretti. Sophie S. I supposed, considering that there are two on this season. Sophie is 31 years old, originally from Darnestown, Maryland. Hopefully she won't be saying darn at the tail end of a blind side. She currently lives in New York City, and she is a strategy associate. She works for YouTube, and so I believe, not to put words in her mouth, she would naturally say that you should subscribe to Rob has a podcast on YouTube before the Survivor season starts to make sure you

don't miss out on any of the video versions of all the great content we have going on in this season as we will watch Sophie and her cohorts battle it out on the beach. So as I mentioned in innumerable amounts of podcast, one of the undercurrent themes of the Survivor 49 cast is this idea of the alternates. Of course, we have two being brought on to this season as last minute additions to the cast, but I have talked with Sophie previously, and it was less than a year before this season started. Sophie has some alternate experience as well. She was the female alternate for Survivor 48. So in the summer of 2024, I was out on set for Survivor 48. I got the chance to talk with Sophie when she was an alternate. And so now, about nine months.

months later or so, I get the chance to check in on how she's feeling about her second trip to Fiji versus her first. I thought she went into some really interesting philosophy on how her preparation and her general headspace has changed about this entire process between getting to come out here, see a little bit of how the sausage gets made only to be left, I suppose, at the door of the sausage factory, not allowed to go in before now coming back and being invited for the Grand Tour. Tomorrow, we will finish off our Survivor 49 preseason interviews with the final member of the Hina tribe, the final member of this cast. We have not heard from yet, Stephen Ram. But for now, here's my interview with Sophie S. My name is Sophie. I'm 31, and I do

product strategy at YouTube. Okay. So what does that involve? Because I imagine, I mean, YouTube is a a very well-known product. What's the strategy behind it? Yeah, because obviously, huge company, huge products. I really narrow in on something we call our impact reports, which focus on like the good impact that YouTube is creating in countries all around the world. So how many jobs are we creating because creators are hiring people? How much money are we contributing to different countries, GDPs, because we are paying creators?

so it's kind of a nice you know like AI and tech very under fire these days sometimes for good reason but so it's nice to get to look on the positive side of things and then part of it is also a little bit of like economics and math

which I love to yeah like get some other data points about like you know how many people find YouTube helpful for learning a new skill or something like that it's so interesting because you're talking about being able to kind of sell a product and its utility

and involve some math, maybe some numbers. Seems a little hand in hand with where we are right now. Oh, yeah. I mean, all of Survivor is being able to sell something to somebody else. And you're doing the math. You're trying to figure out, okay, like, how many people do I need to vote?

Do I need to worry about this person? Like, I definitely think a lot of hand in hand there and also just a lot of hand in hand with like just the business world in general. Like corporate America is all alliances, you know, like those aren't necessarily real friendships we see between companies. It's those are like strategic alliances. So then let's talk about perhaps from that similar DNA. Yeah.

What's your history with Survivor and what has you out here right now? Oh my God. So I've been watching Survivor since I was a kid. Like the latest I got to stay up when I was like in elementary school was for scenes from next week. So we would like beg my mom to let us watch scenes from next week. week with Jeff because you know it's like 9 p.m. Eastern when when it stopped you know when this back back when these were hour long episodes. Exactly. Now I don't even know how kids are getting to watch Survivor. Yeah. Now it's like, all right. Jump out of the challenge. Yeah. Jeez. Um, but so yeah,

have been watching with my family for a long time. And then like in college was watching with friends and have made like friends and communities along the way because we all love Survivor. Uh huh. And I'm actually, like, the friends who I watch with now, we do a little Survivor Fantasy League. So that is added. That is added. I'm not out here, like, a proponent of sports betting, but, you know, makes it interesting when you, like, draft your team. And now all of a sudden I care about players I might not have otherwise.

But then what brought me here. So that's my experience with as a fan of the show. Right. But I actually, so I applied to be on Survivor once in COVID. I distinctly remember making that video in COVID went no. then I applied again and I was actually an alternate for season 48 which means that

like you get to essentially do everything but the fun stuff like play the game and I wasn't done I feel like being an alternate made me hungrier and angrier and like God damn it I want to play

this game like how dare you like bring me out here let me get to taste what it might be like and then have me go home to like oh new york um so i yeah i when survivor when the opportunity came for forty nine i was like we're like we're absolutely doing this again and went through that process again and i'm so happy to be here now for real full-time cast like i can't believe it yeah so i was intrigued when it came to your own sort of like either physical prep or even like mental and emotional prep what

was it like for trip number two versus trip number one definitely i think um trip number two meant focused way more on the mental aspect because i like had done a lot of the physical prep for trip number one and then kept it like stayed doing those like forearm strength things for those grip challenges stayed working on balance and just being strong also it was like i'll be very honest i was like an athlete i swam in college like it's fun to train for something yeah And so it was so fun to train to maybe be an alternate that I just like kept that up constantly because I was like, who knows, like maybe I'll be on 49. So the physical stuff maintained.

What I really stepped up was more of the mental aspect because I think what I realized when I was out here for 48 as an alternate, you're kind of without, for the most part, your standard coping mechanisms. Even in this pregame, like you don't have a phone, you have access to the internet. you do have music and you have books but like you know normal ways people cope like I like to go exercise I like to watch TV I like to go listen to music

or talk to friends well on Survivor you can't do any of those things so I did like I literally asked my therapist I was like all right what like strategies for like coping when I have nothing else and we came up with like a toolkit

of like breathing exercises meditations things that I can do that like also things that only I would know Yeah. So, like, no one around me is like, oh, look at Sophie doing like sun salutations in the morning. Like things I'm just keeping low key that will help kind of ground me and get my head right in the game. Mm-hmm. The other difference, I think, in prep is for the alternate season, I really was doing a lot of like research on past seasons.

Right. And strategies. And I think what I realized in, because now I've had the opportunity to watch them of 48. I was going to say. And I know, was that from your perspective? I mean, again, I don't know, did you want to put yourself in that headspace where you're like seeing yourself on the season or like? Part of that, yeah, part of it was like seeing myself on the season and being like, oh, how would have I acted in that situation? And realizing that like having this like formula of strategies that I want to do is actually not helpful because people are people are people.

They're irrational. They are so different. And so like, for example, I had a thought of like, how would have I been on, I can't remember the name, the green tribe. Vula, yeah. Vula where lots of personalities, it seemed kind of volatile, you know, like that that was not the smooth sailing camps that the other two tribes enjoyed. And like some of those like kind of pre-formulated strategies that I had thought of, I was like, those go out the window. Yeah. Like those fully go out the window when you're dealing with a player like say who's like so great at just like kind of like calling your bluff and just being like, I'm not going to talk to you because I know you want to vote me out. Yeah. You know, like that goes against. all of the strategy that I looked up from past seasons because she's playing differently than anybody else to play the game. Yeah.

And so I think my preparation this time around way less on like watching past seasons because I'm not playing with those people. That's true. I mean, you know, maybe you'll get a chance to play with those people in the future. But right now, like, I'm not playing against those people. Why am I watching film on a team that I'm not playing against? You know? Oh, that's a very good way to put it.

There we go. Perfect. Yeah. So look, as much as you don't want to look on the past. Right. I'm going to make you do it for a hot second here. Give me one winner and one non-winner who you identify with the most. Ooh, okay.

Well, for winner, I got to go, Rachel, because she is my patron saint of alternates. Yeah, I was going to say. He's the alternate who won. No, you don't know. Shaheen could be the winner. Shaheen could also win. I would love to see that. So she's my winner who I really identify with just from the alternate experience.

And also, I read, I think, some of her press from her season. And she talked similarly about feeling the way I did. because I feel like Austin is another alternate who I know who got to play there wasn't as like there hasn't been as much out there about how alternates feel and I was like she yeah

she gets that it sucks that I was really upset like I'm sure there are some people who maybe don't feel that way but like I did and it was great to see that not only did she feel similarly to me but then she came back out here and won and then a non-wither winner who I identify with this is tough because I

generally only think in terms of winners and you've got a lot more to choose a lot more to choose from you know this one is like maybe a little we'll see how this lands but like honestly Carolyn in that the emotionalness like she really I think like was an emotional player

and I will definitely be an emotional player as well I think I'll also like have some other aspects of my gameplay as well but like I think that was something that it was like so fun to watch her play because she was so invested and so emotional about it and I think that I identify with that like I yeah

I am like this emotion like I yeah I bring my emotion to everything that I do and I have a difficulty hiding them so I feel like that's like I really when I was watching Carolyn play even watching her like just have fun like both really enjoy it and then also get mad I was like that'll be me

yeah so let's talk about that what would you say is your biggest superpower and your biggest piece of kryptonite is what you're just mentioning falling into one of those categories? I think, yeah, kryptonite for sure is the emotions piece. Just that, like, I, yeah, I wear my heart on my sleeve and it's, yeah, hard for me to conceal what I'm feeling. I'm very expressive.

And I know, I know that all get me in trouble in Survivor. And so that is something that I'm really going to try to be mindful of and kind of lock down. I think, though, one of my greatest strengths, is I'm really good at bringing people together. I like love to plan shit for friends and groups of people and all sorts of stuff. And I think like an aspect of that is like it's a little bit of glue, you know?

Like I'm a good like I'm a glue girl. I, yeah, I can bring, yeah, groups of different friends together. And I think, you know, that's not too different than bringing people together for a vote. You know, like I think I have a good read of maybe who needs what. and how to bring them together and cater to each party so that they might, you know, come and vote my way. How do you think you're going to be perceived in this game?

How do you think your competition is going to view you? It's so funny because I think like there is the pregame perception. Right. And then there's the post, and then there's like once we actually start playing. Yeah. And the pregame, it's interesting because, you know, we're not allowed to talk. And I am a like diehard teacher's pet. Like I was so, like, so, like, so.

type A love following rules, loved rules, and so I am not talking at all. So I think I'm coming across as like very introverted, kind of like, yeah, just like not, not like not Sophie. Not Sophie. Not Sophie. I'm really, yeah, I'm coming across as like, very

calm and like kind of serene. And it's just because like, I'm not going to break those rules. You're not going to see me talking. But in reality, like, love to chat, would love to be the person making jokes and all that stuff. but yet a rule follower. So I think, yeah, my perception right now

is definitely, I think, coming across as, yeah, she's a little bit more introverted. She, yeah, like, might not be as, like, goofy or fun-loving or, you know, so on and whatnot. But then I think when we get to the beach, I think that, yeah, their perception of me will be like, oh, she's, yeah, she loves, she loves to get a laugh, you know, a little bit of a clown.

Some of, like, positive energy, just so excited to be here. And I'm hoping that I will mask some of the like, okay, competitive, athletic, here to win, aspects of me. Well, let's flip that mirror around. And again, this is an exercise we've done before as well. You're making your own assessments, I'm sure. Just, you know, as you're trying to be introverted, just like surreptitiously gathering info. So let's start on the positive side of things. Give me some initials or some descriptions of people that are possible ride or dies for you.

Yeah. there's just there's this woman MC who's like a tall black woman who just seems like just I just like solid like she just seems like a solid person she like looks very athletic um I would guess like basketball or volleyball and just seems like very observant and chill and like steady and I think that's that's kind of the things that I would look for in alliance partner I don't want like I don't need a wild card an alliance partner so getting good vibes from emce um i'm also getting good vibes from um this woman who has like pink hair and she has like she just has like a lot of spunk and personality going on um she had like the most fun glitter

eye shadow on today and she just seems she just yeah i don't know she seems like so interesting and so like full of energy and again i don't know because we haven't spoken yet but like gives off like just like vivacious fun and that those are the people I gel with um interestingly this is where it kind of gets interesting because then there's also this um this woman with short hair who like I like seems like very gregarious and like chatty and like those are good qualities but like the alarm bells are ringing where I'm like NMA looks like she's about to have a great social game like seem like i've seen her kind of like chop it up with a lot of different types of people making a lot of people laugh like yeah she just seems like i don't know i'm like i've got my eye on

her yeah yeah any others that you're seeing either not getting good vibes from or you're seeing as a threat to that point as a threat to that point um and then actually similarly there's a woman with like long braids who also is giving like just kind of like bubbly kind of unassuming bubbly but like, yeah, good at like, like, you know, ha ha ha with like a lot of different types of people, which I just like, those are more threats to me than like, I don't know, there's like one buff dude and I'm like, I'm not too worried about you, sir.

But like, yeah, it's the people who I'm like, I think you will have an, you seem to have a good social game. So that's the thing is that like you're almost kind of banking from your previous experience where you know that some people can make these impressions and like run really far with them. And so you're kind of already eyeballing like, yeah, I see you already playing the game from day negative three. Yes, yeah.

And that's what's crazy is that like you're spending all this time with people. Yes, you're not allowed to talk. But yeah, you're starting to build impressions of people. And so part of what I wanted to do, though, was give as little as possible. Because actually some of the people that I think are doing really well are the ones who are giving the least. Like Kyle and Camilla, like we're really quiet. Mm-hmm. not giving away anything because yeah some of that stuff sure you might catch a good vibe off someone

but what if also someone starts to see you as a threat yeah you know and you don't know who's on your tribe yet yeah so that's the other thing is like i literally because also the the person in me who like loves to be in the conversation and chit chatting had to be like no sophie like don't give in don't start chatting a because you follow rules but b because you don't want to like why am i going to give anybody ammo. Right. Exactly. So, I want to pull a couple things from your bio here. You said that you are loyal to a fault. Yeah. Talk to me about that. Do you fear that might be an issue in this game? It's funny because I do feel like I'm loyal to a fault when it comes to certain friendships.

That like maybe I should just have like let go earlier or like recognize like, you know what? This isn't serving me. Um, I think the asterisk though is that, Like, yeah, for my friends, I will go above and beyond and do, bend over backwards, do everything and anything for. I think the difference here is like, yes, people make really great relationships on Survivor. They make great close friendships. But I don't anticipate running into that here. I think, like, I'm very much so playing where I'm like, this is a game. Like, when people, you know, get really sad that they hurt someone's feelings in tribal, part of me is like, get a grip.

This is a game. This is a game for a million dollars. This is 26 days. It's like the same type of get a grip when like on a reality dating show, they're saying, I love you after a week. Right. Like I found the man in my dreams. Right.

I'm like it's, it's you're in a silo. You're in a vacuum. Like get your head out of your ass and remember where you are. And so that's why like my loyal to a fault I don't think we'll apply here because I think I will like always kind of be overthinking, which and conversely, in normal life, that's a bad thing to be like constantly over-analyzing and overthinking your relationship. But here, I think it's actually like, that's the name of the game, you know? Something else you wrote in your bio, you were in all caps, handy as hell. Oh, yes. I got to hear

about any sort of meaning behind what that means. So I, like, I consider myself a handy woman. My dad is extremely handy. He's a big DIY guy. He can fix literally almost anything. And he definitely, I definitely imparted that to me, like, I have a toolbox, I have a drill, I have multiple hammers, and I love not, and I'm not just talking about like building furniture, but like in college, our door didn't have a deadbolt. And yeah, we were just like not feeling great about that. No, no, no, no, no. And I installed a deadbolt on the door. Wow. I just like went to Lowe's, looked up how to do it, like bought the pieces for my drill. To this day, like when something is wrong in my apartment, my default is to look up. how to do it myself and then if we get to like if it's like electricity or plumbing that's when I'll reach out to my landlord but everything else I'm doing it myself I recently like refinished my coffee table I like sanded it down oh my god stained it looks beautiful yeah but yeah I I love I love that stuff so then let's talk about what might fill up your toolbox out here idols advantages journeys how do you plan on incorporating that into your game

so one journey is no I just feel like they are a they're kind of a lose lose they happen like so they seem to happen so early in the season that none of the positives that come out of them like an extra vote are ever used for like really

game changing moves yet and also most of the time it screws you over and you don't have a vote and it also can screw you over because you have three different people who are all telling stories about it and maybe you're telling the truth about what happened but what if for some reason

somebody believes you know like there's just so much opportunity to go wrong I don't think the benefits of a journey in this new era of survivor outweigh the risks especially if I get to a journey and it's rolling dice what? Like absolutely not I'm not going to leave my game up to chance like that

Um, idols, like, I think the, like, individual immunity, obviously want to win all of the, the challenge ones. That's a big, like, I've been practicing challenge things. My mom made me bean bags and I've been throwing them at any number of things. And just anything around the house. Anything around the house. A lot of blocks, a lot of, like, you know, stacking up paper cups, that type of thing. And so, yeah, would, like, really on my bucket list is individual,

immunity idol and obviously want the idols for my tribes. The hidden immunity idol is interesting because I think it's so powerful. Right. But too early on you go looking for it it like really puts a target on your back. I think though in my game my plan

is to not like not tell anybody anything about having idols. Famous last words. I know famous last words but like I feel like we're seeing people get screwed over by sharing too much and that's going to be hard because I'm going to want to like celebrate it but I think yeah I think if I were to rank them journeys last don't want to do and then first would be like the challenge idols first being individual and then tribe

and then and then hidden immunity idol um so yeah all them in my toolbox except for the journey there you go leaving that one out not necessary well let's maybe speaking of that put yourself a bit in Jeff's shoes yeah if you could either bring in a previous twist from new era or other wise or you can even make your own up that you want to like put in this season for you to play with season for me to play with hmm oh that's a great one what is it what is what are some of my favorite twists i hate it when they do the like time the time turner one i'm glad that's gone yes um yeah that was not like liked um what are some good twists it's tough because honestly i like a lot of the twists are tough like I like I have a little bit of an old school

survivor mentality where I'm like I just want to see them like wheel and deal and gossip and this and that um I like it hmm I'm trying to think of a twist because I think the benefit of the journey is that you get three people from different tribes yeah to like hang but I'm trying to think of something like that where it's not as like I like, I don't know, these new journeys are really screwed up. I mean, you could do sort of like, Surrara 44. They did this once where it was Carolyn and Brandon and Danny, if you remember. And they just spent a day chilling, broing down and eating fruit.

That was great. Yeah. Yeah, let's do that where it's like there's nothing wrong with it. We're just hanging out, getting vibes, getting to know other people. Yeah. I was also going to say, I think on Caleb season, there was one where you get to like send somebody to the other tribe to hang out for a little bit. That one can backfire, but it's fascinating.

Yeah. And I like, I like those aspects of it. Or I think another twist would be to, like, go to two tribes kind of soon after three and, like, stick with two for a bit. Because I think, too, there's so many people, it's like there's so much more fun and intrigue at the tribals. When there's only six, there's not enough, we need more people for, like, good gossip and content. That's true, exactly. You don't, when a rumor gets spread around six people, it's not nearly as weighty as a dozen people in one room. Yeah, that's why post-merge is so great.

All right. Well, maybe on that note, what is your hottest survivor take? What do you think is your most controversial opinion about the show or a season or a player? The Flint. Why are we taking away Flint from the losers? Why are we handicapping the losers? That makes no sense to me. Because everything I've read about it, like, then, and we see it, it starts a cycle where you're not eating and then you're not performing well.

And with this three tribe system, every time there's a tribe who like loses once and they never recover. And I think it's the Flint. And I just, it's not fun to watch. tribe get pummeled and it just makes like in what other sport do we handicap the losers right like i'm someone who i'm always rooting for like a good game i don't want to see a blowout yeah and that's that's i think what we're doing the other thing is like you know jeff famously says that in survivor fire represents your life why are we taking away from them so early saying you you're dead now what like come on as if it's not hard enough out here like yeah it's not fun for me to watch

a tribe lose and lose and lose because they're not eating. That's like, that's not fun. So that's my hottest take is like enough with the taking the Flint. In a manner of speaking, you're saying, sorry, not sorry for you. Yeah, sorry not sorry for you. Come on. Yeah. So when it comes to the end game of Survivor,

something that I find incredibly intriguing is that as a juror, you can vote under really any piece of criteria, right? It could be relationships, it could be social game, it could be strategy, could be resume, story. Yeah. So right now if I were to ask you the thing you value the most as a juror when voting for someone to win, if I were to say the thing I value the most when voting for a winner is blank. What would that blank be? I think it would be gameplay because and by that I mean like I'm not just going to vote for the person who's my friend. Yeah. I say that no, but you never know.

But I really think like the person who I feel like played the best game and that is both like doing well in challenges and like wheeling and dealing and making things happen um because yeah that's what i value that's why i like watching like the person who like yeah really made things happen um and they don't have to be big splashing moves like sometimes you just surviving from the bottom and making it to the top three is enough but i think gameplay really is what i would focus on um yeah last but certainly not least. You know how I end this. If you could bring a celebrity or a fictional character out as a loved one, who would it be? Do you remember who you said? Did I say Rihanna or did I say Beyonce? No, you said neither. You said the guy from man versus food. Oh my God. So you could

eat because you know what's crazy is that those eating challenges for some reason, like, I think maybe Survivor All-Sars. There's one where like the loved one has to do the eating challenge. Yeah, when they were like eating bugs. And I just like, I don't think anybody in my family could do it um so you want to bring someone out who can so i wanted to bring someone out who can but now this is just for the visit right yeah just for the visit i mean they could if you depending on what what you want it to be you know trying to think of who would give me the most like the most inspiration oh my god i like my mind is going a million miles a minute because i think in my brain when i because i remembered this but i was thinking about who would you want to play with yeah and so i

thinking about people I wanted to play with, but this is more of, like, who's going to give me that, like, pep in my step that I need to get it together? That locker room, halftime talk. Yes, yes. It can't be Michael Jordan. He would be too mean. You'd be like, this is a wimp game. I mean, you talk about, yeah, not wanting to be a bitter juror.

He is the definition of, and I took that personally. Oh, my God, yeah, definitely. Okay, so I'm actually, I'm a big women's sports fan, and I'm especially women's basketball fan uh go new york liberty season ticket holder champs um but i'm gonna break for that i'm actually gonna say diana trossi who just retired because she i think has like the perfect balance of like get your head in the like i think she'd be of a great like pump up speech but she also seems like so fun and it would be a great like escape from the game for a little bit also huge fan idolize her And, like, would love to just get to meet her.

But I think she would be, like, the perfect mix of, like, that, like, fire that I need to win. Yeah. But also bring some, like, fun and laughter and goofiness. And, like, I think we would have, like, a lot of fun. Like, I think if it was one, if it was a competition, she would destroy it. Extremely athletic, extremely talented. And also, like, a ridiculously cutthroat competitor. But then when we then win that challenge.

to then go, like, I don't know, on some boat and, like, that's our reward. She would be, like, I think great at, like, maybe I could use her, like, go talk to that person who I don't, who I haven't really made a little bit. She could be that bridge. Yeah, she could be that bridge. I feel like she'd get along with anybody. There we go. She can play all positions on the court.

Play all positions on the court. There you go. Well, I mean, you know, you talk about that pep talk to get your head in the game. Your head is so firmly in a nice place right now, I think. I mean, obviously, again, it's night and day of the conversations that we had to get on the circumstances, but, like, so when I was talking with Rachel, for 47, she told me, like, 46 was not my season. This was my season. And I hope you get that general sense as well.

Yeah, it's funny because definitely from like a, you're right, from like a head perspective, because 48, I didn't think I was good enough to play Survivor because I was an alternate. And I think even had I been tapped, had somebody had something happened to somebody or somebody dropped out, I would have been playing, feeling like an imposter. That's interesting. Like I didn't deserve it. Like I was JV who had gotten called up only because somebody got hurt, not because I deserved it.

Yeah. And I would be playing like so scared of a failure because I wanted to prove that I could do it. Yeah. Whereas now like I did like they did pick me. I do deserve to be here. I've worked so hard to be here. Like I know that I have earned this and I know that I belong out here. and so I'm not playing from that like scared perspective of like oh my god like ah like I'm really

playing from a position I think it's I'm playing from a position of power rather than a position of like weakness and insecurity and I think that's the biggest difference um the other thing is like watching 48 they all seem so fun I like I would have been great friends I mean hopefully I can still be great friends with all right you're part of the family now part of the family um but But, but I do, it's interesting. I do think that like, yeah, well, like, my cast is so different. Like, we, like, 48 is, like, the season of, like, hunky men. And that's, that's not what 49 is.

And, like, I think this might, that might end up working out in my favor. Like, who knows? But definitely from, like, a headspace perspective, feeling so much better about, yeah, just, yeah, you're right. Like, I feel like I feel like I feel great about. where my head is in this way.