RHAP: We Know Survivor - Survivor 50 B&B Ep 6 Recap w/ Sophie Segreti

Episode Date: April 5, 2026

Survivor 50 B&B Ep 6 Recap w/ Sophie Segreti With a new Survivor season upon us, it’s time for Mike Bloom and Liana Boraas to re-open the RHAP B&B! On the B&B, Mike and Liana are inspire...d by the lighter side of Survivor, featuring a series of segments and games based on what’s happening on Survivor that week. This week, This week, Mike and Liana are joined by Sophie Segreti to discuss Survivor 50 episode 6. Mike Bloom and Liana Boraas team up with Survivor 49’s Sophie Segreti for a lively, strategy-packed breakdown of Survivor 50’s twist-heavy merge. This week’s episode dives straight into the chaos of the “Blood Moon” twist, shifting the game’s momentum as three players get booted in a multi-tribal shakeup. With fans and players alike questioning just how “crazy” this twist really is, the podcast explores who rises, who falls, and whose legacy gets a boost. The hosts and guest unpack the Survivor 50 merge, which promises fireworks as alliances and past beefs come roaring back. This episode sees players scrambling after being split into three groups, leaving little room for maneuvering at Tribal Council and setting up several predictable vote-outs. Confessional gold from Rizo, now dubbed “Rizgod,” “Riz Clown,” and even “Rizbop”, keeps the mood light, even as favorites like Kamilla and Genevieve find their games turned upside down by unlucky swaps and idol transfers. Cirie’s sharp strategic talk and Colby’s emotional exit scenes offer heartfelt moments, reminding everyone why these returning players matter. Applebee’s returns for reward, but fans debate whether its presence marks a true franchise highlight. Sophie Segreti reflects on the lost chance for a full 17-person merge scramble Mike breaks down Genevieve’s idol misfortunes and “Shot in the Dark” play Liana highlights Cirie’s brilliant pitch and the nuances of split tribal strategy The podcast ranks the wildest Rizo nicknames from Survivor Facebook’s casuals Kamilla’s exit is parsed as emblematic of the dangers of playing hard as a returnee With Survivor 50’s merge turning alliances inside out, listeners are left wondering: Will future Tribal Councils offer more chaos, or will predictable boots keep ruling the day? How can players adapt when twists limit their moves and old-school beef meets new-era strategy? This week’s charity shoutout is Planned Parenthood, which delivers vital reproductive health care, sex education, and information to millions of people worldwide. Click here to make a donation. Check out Peace Corps: https://peacecorps.gov/serve To pre-order Rob’s book, The Tribe and I Have Spoken, visit www.robhasabook.com Never miss a minute of RHAP’s extensive Survivor coverage! LISTEN: Subscribe to the Survivor podcast feed WATCH:  Watch and subscribe to the podcast on YouTube SUPPORT:  Become a RHAP Patron for bonus content, access to Facebook and Discord groups plus more great perks!

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 There's a world of opportunity out there beyond the typical 9 to 5 where purpose and grit and the American spirit come together. The Peace Corps. It's been called the toughest job you'll ever love. Tough because it asks so much of you. And the love part, it's knowing your hard work can transform lives and build bridges across cultures. After 65 years, the Peace Corps is still the toughest job you'll ever love. Explore opportunities in more than 60 countries and apply at peacecore.gov slash serve. to the RHAP B&B for week six of Survivor 50. And my name is Mike Bloom. The merge has arrived for like 45 minutes.
Starting point is 00:01:18 And then we went back to three tribes for a hot sec. But maybe we emerged from here on now. It's because we saw the rise of the biggest twist in Survivor history. The return of Applebee's. You thought that Liz Wilcox would have put that franchise. They would never want to be affiliated again. But no, they're back. and better than ever.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Of course, I am talking about the blood mood, which made many people both on and off screens this week. So we are going to break it all down, all three boot. Mm-hmm. People, I guess, we'll match ourselves up for a big person.
Starting point is 00:01:54 That'll be our representative for the episode. Of course, I am joined by the one, the only, someone I can never be divided from, unlike some of these people from their closest allies. Leanna Boris. Leanna, how are you? Well, my planter's fashion. is flaring up. So I guess I'll be Colby.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Yeah, Leanna, what your feet. What are your feet maladies. Is that the icebreaker? Yeah, that's the first in line in the BuzzFeed quiz, actually, to figure out who, who you are on Survivor 50. So yeah, I'll go with that. All right. Well, I am thrilled to be welcoming this person in because she has been such a fantastic presence, not only on Survivor 49, but in the Survivor streets after the fact. And look, there was Neri a piece.
Starting point is 00:02:37 of fruit to be found at Applebee's. And I like to think this is her impact. So please welcome to the podcast, the great Sophie Sogretti. Thank you so much for having me. It feels right that like the first, that the episode that I'm covering is the one with the most carbs and protein in the reward. That feels just like it was meant to be. So I'm so thrilled to be here.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Also, because, you know, Blood Moon, we got to unpack that. And I feel thoroughly unqualified. but we'll do my best. Listen, we all there. We are, we are like the baggage handlers who were like brought in as scabs on the TSA strike. And we're like, oh, I don't know what this thing is.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Oh, delicate. I don't know what that word means. Just throw it off. I'm sure to wind up back where it belongs. Fine. We still allow dogs under the plane, right? That's okay. Put them there.
Starting point is 00:03:26 We're still doing that, right? All right. Well, Sophie, you have a dog in this fight still in this season in the R-I-Z-G-O-D-R-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-B, maybe who got to spend some quality time with Ozzy out on Redemption Island. Are you wishing we saw more of the two of them just on their lonesome? Yes, because I'm in this weird position where, like, obviously I played the game with Rizzo and I know him very well, but I am now becoming a fan of him.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Not that I was never, you know, obviously loved him on our season, but like, I, like, he's my favorite character on 50. And so it feels weird to say to somebody that you know, like, wow, like, I'm your biggest fan. But that's kind of how I feel. I feel like he's been giving great screen time, hilarious confessional. And I just feel like watching him and Ozzy together, I just think there was a lot of good content that we probably missed of just, yeah, the funny interaction, call it like, you know, an age gap, an old school, new school gap. But I just think it would have been hilarious to see what Riz God and Ozzy came up to. Also, like, you know, you.
Starting point is 00:04:35 you know, having Zs in your name, they, I feel like two. Oh, that's, yeah, that's the person popping a conversation. Yeah. Well, actually, not to, not to spoil the game or anything, but there was a comment from the Survivor Facebook page. Um, that did give them a couple name.
Starting point is 00:04:55 So I did want to float this by you guys and see what you felt. So they used Azo. Oh, no. No, no, no. No. Rizzi is right there. Rizzi is dangling in front of the most succulent sake you could possibly get.
Starting point is 00:05:12 And you're going to go with Ozo. Ozo? I don't like Ozo. I feel like Ozzy could start calling himself Oz God as like his version of Riz God, Oz God. Yes. But Rizzi is pretty. Rizzi is great. Rizzi's great. This is great.
Starting point is 00:05:28 It's interesting right now this triangle has been cemented. I cannot believe in the year of our Lord. I mean, Jeff, 2026. That's three fields, six-time player, was caught on camera saying that she was in a polycule. HB, you better feel damn secure in that marriage because your wife is going out there and shack it up with one of her greatest nebuses
Starting point is 00:05:49 and a 26-year-old boy who calls himself the Riz God. Imagine that's how he finds out that he's actually in a four-person relationship now. Not the partner, I would have. have chosen. Yeah. Hmm. I love it.
Starting point is 00:06:06 I mean, that was a very adequate expression though to I think maybe break down the main crux of this episode. There's been a lot that has been said about this blood moon, what it culminated in, how it works as a twist.
Starting point is 00:06:21 So Sophie, I guess I want to rewind a little bit here before we dive too much into the, for lack of a better term, meat and potatoes. So give me your general sense of what you've been thinking about 50s so far.
Starting point is 00:06:31 And did this episode change the course those opinions one way or the other. I've been thoroughly enjoying 50. I feel like I went in with almost no expectations because I was like, it's my first season, not on it. Maybe I won't like watching people who aren't me. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:06:47 As it turns out, so thrilled to be a fan again. But I feel like we have just like, like we had such a fun cast. And there are like watching Emily do all of her shenanigans, watching Rizzo really flourish or re-do or things. Like it's been really great TV despite, I would say, kind of predictable tribal for the most part, but like really entertaining to watch the interpersonal dynamics. I do feel like we are, this is the like soccer jersey version of Survivor
Starting point is 00:07:25 in that we are slapping logos and brands and celebrity on anything and everything that we can. And I'm like, oh, I didn't know that wasn't ad. I didn't know that was an ad. which is, I mean, hey, adapt or die. Amazon, like, has our king, I guess. So that's where Survivor is going. So not loving that bit of it.
Starting point is 00:07:45 But I almost feel like despite a lot of the things that I feel like are a little cringe that are just, you know, production trying to really turn up the volume on 50. I feel like it's been a great season because of the interpersonal dynamics. And that a lot of these players are bringing beef from the past, which I just love. Like I feel like I love the old eras of Survivor where people have baggage and they are petty and they're not just chess players.
Starting point is 00:08:13 And I think sometimes new era, we're a little too roboty, you know, you can turn on your ally tomorrow. You can vote with your enemy today. And so I like that we're seeing a return to like good reality TV beef. And it's like happening. I will say not one of my favorite episodes, this last one.
Starting point is 00:08:35 And I think my biggest, I just think anytime you start something with the craziest twist in history, you are setting me up for disappointment. Like this was not, three people going home in a three split tribal is just a different version of mergatory. It's just like the bigger version.
Starting point is 00:08:56 It's like mergatory XL. So to me, this blood moon, like three people going home instead of two, just based on the numbers we all saw it coming. And it's not like it was that. Like we literally did this challenge in my, like this. I feel like we were a little hyperbolic with the,
Starting point is 00:09:15 oh, this is the craziest twist ever. And I also kind of wanted, want a player or two to be like, all right, Jeff. Like, we're just voting three people home. Like, come on. This isn't like a, this isn't like the time turner. Like this isn't that nuts. Like I think someone needs.
Starting point is 00:09:32 work a little bit harder on the definition of what constitutes the craziest twist in survivor history. Yeah, I also feel like maybe Jeff knew this was a two-hour episode, but like, I don't think you need to take a page out of your boy Stephen Ram's book and do like a Carl Sagan like explanation of the blood moon was first spotted in 1473 and it represents a time of harvest for the ancient civilizations. They didn't know what the blood mood was. It was like, again, like you said, they were really trying to advertise the thing that wound up being an excuse to kind of make three very predictable voteouts. Yeah, it was definitely, it didn't live up to the hype before the episode, but also even as you said, during the episode where it just felt like, oh, okay, oh, and two people
Starting point is 00:10:22 are also just safe. So like, I don't know how that kind of factors into the blood moon of it all where it's like, oh, in blood moons are like just two people or like a subset of people are just okay. Yeah, like those are okay. So yeah, it was definitely odd. But Sophie, to go back to something that you said earlier, it's like I, first of all, echo a lot of what you said.
Starting point is 00:10:44 And I think especially a lot of those personal connections, like that has easily been my favorite part of the season so far. And so to have the tease of like, oh my God, everybody's together. And you even get to see like, just scrambling and how information is flying left and right. And it was like, let's go, let's go, let's go. And then, oh, psych, actually, it's just going to be a luck of the draw,
Starting point is 00:11:08 basically with who's ultimately going to end up going home. Because especially Camilla and Genevieve, I think really just ended up with such a poor draw. And so then it kind of made the rest of the episode a little bit boring. I like almost wish, and I don't even know if they would do this, but like it would have actually been crazy if it's everyone. They show up to tribal. they think it's one and Jeff's like psych, three of you are going home.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Like that would be crazy. Like that's actually crazy and unprecedented. Like the luck of the draw. And I agree. Like I think what I love about the merge is all of the personalities. And so when you do the split tribal, you miss that. You miss all of the relationships.
Starting point is 00:11:50 And then it becomes three very predictable voteouts. Yeah. Yeah. That's the thing is that one of the, the things that we have chiefly complained about with the new era is like small tribes you don't really have any wiggle room you know essentially if you're in a two v two situation there's only one person you can basically appeal all of your pitches to yeah if even if expand out to like seven then okay now there's a couple people there's a couple different avenues you could take here and you look at the
Starting point is 00:12:20 dynamics right we had one in group was an authentic like two v two with one person in the middle in jonathan But the other one was basically like Genevieve feeling like she had to go to Christian to be like, do you want to take out your number one ally at this time? Wouldn't that be fun? And then the other one was essentially like, all right, which, you know, which enfeebled sort of, you know, out of the loop man is going to get voted out of this group. They were trying to squeeze anything out of this. But I feel like for a time in the game when theoretically all of your options should be incredibly open,
Starting point is 00:12:55 they actually kind of handcuffed the players by being like, okay, here are the options you can choose between, even if you're someone in the majority, right? Like, they may have not wanted to get rid of Camilla or Genevieve or Colby at that moment, but those were the only options.
Starting point is 00:13:09 And so they also kind of forced themselves into targeting who they want, who they might not have wanted to target in the first place. Mm-hmm. My kind of view on like, if somebody plays their shot in the dark, something's like, that's not a good tribal. That because that means that there's one clear vote of somebody who,
Starting point is 00:13:25 knows that they're probably going home. And rather than participate in the game and vote, they're going to play their shot in the dark. And so when like I like of course Genevieve was smart enough to play your shot. Like I just feel like that's the hallmark of a boring, you have a boring tribal. And I and just I completely agree that the players are hamstrung. And you're not going to see a cool, big,
Starting point is 00:13:48 flashy move when there are so few of you. And you've got, hey, you got no room to maneuver. Mm-hmm. And I think. a little bit of extra sting with Genevieve as well, which is the fact that she found two idols and had to give both the way and then ended up in a perfect
Starting point is 00:14:03 situation where having two idols would have been for help. Let's just go down the list here. And look, you know, there certainly has been some talk as well about like as Aubrey herself will bold italicides and underline of travel council like you don't want to shut out any options because you never know what would happen. But as you mentioned, Genevieve finds two idols. And by law by Billy Eilish.
Starting point is 00:14:24 by Billy Elish law had to give them away. Her biggest rival received a Billy Elish idol which she had no involvement in. Then both of the people who had her idols who could have been possibilities
Starting point is 00:14:39 to be voted for are not a part of any vote whatsoever. They go have their own broke back mountain fantasies on Exile Island. Then she gets swapped into a group with not only her biggest enemy
Starting point is 00:14:51 with said idol, but the two people who gave, her the idol. It was just mischeworthed after misfortune. I mean, it's tough to track back through you know, 750 plus players as to like
Starting point is 00:15:04 who the unluckiest player in Survivor history is, but like, I can't think of a person who has had more of a string of misfortune perhaps than her. Yeah. I mean, in her exit interview, she was so gracious, or I actually haven't read all of the exit press, but like what she
Starting point is 00:15:20 says immediately to the camera after tribal, yeah, she's so gracious and she's keeping her head held high and I would have been feuding if I had found two idols and then was, like that is infuriating. I really felt for her in that moment. And like I think what keeps Survivor interesting is the element of chance. Like it's not just straight chess or whatever, but like there comes a time when you just like want to flip the table and throw your hands
Starting point is 00:15:50 up and be like, what the hell? And I feel like that's exactly. I assume how Genevieve was feeling on the inside or she's like much more grounded and centered than I am. But yeah, that sucked to watch, to be honest. That was a real bummer. Yeah. Yeah, because I think, you know, Camilla,
Starting point is 00:16:08 you know, you could make an argument with Camilla being swapped screwed to a certain extent. But also, you know, I think it's like, hey, look, these are the consequences of leaving Jonathan out of the boat last week. So at least, you know, it kind of feels like, well, there was some sort of reason behind. it. And then with Colby as well, you know, obviously his tribal council was just so incredibly emotional, which I think did have its sort of own impact outside of just the vote and, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:35 how it ended up. But he had the foot thing. So it's like, okay, that kind of makes a little bit of sense. I think Genevieve for me is the one that probably hurts the most, um, given the way that this whole thing shook out. Yeah. I mean, the Colby one, it's so weird because it's obviously so unorthodox. And I was thinking for a little while because I know sometimes they might rearrange the order of these double triple tribal councils. I was like, why are we ending on this one? Like the Camilla one was the most interesting strategically. Let's make that one end on a, you know, a big punch.
Starting point is 00:17:05 But instead of a big punch, we sort of got like a big hug in the form of not only Colby. I mean, Colby is obviously the center of this. And my God, watching that big cowboy get choked up, not a dry eye in the house nor in the skies of Fiji. Emily's flipping when they're kind of like But I also think that it just served as like a beautiful reconciliation of kind of the casting of this season
Starting point is 00:17:32 where you have him and coach and Surrey sitting there and being told by both the two other players we're so dude that Emily but also Jeff like I don't think you realize like yes this show has changed you but you all have changed this show. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Someone who's been watching this, this whole shindig from the very beginning. That, that's incredibly cool. And I do think that, at least two of them, I'm sure coaches like, look at the impact I had to this franchise.
Starting point is 00:18:03 But I think, I don't know if Colby, especially with the amount of time he's having a way, is necessarily saying there being like, I helped make Survivor what it is today. You know, I think he is incredibly gracious and humble about feeling like he is just one of those 750 plus people.
Starting point is 00:18:17 And so I don't know. I can't imagine what it, feels like to not only have a show means so much to have your life, but then to think about like your mere existence on said show has inspired so many countless people to be able to follow in your footsteps. A lot of babies to be named and Colby's after him. I mean, Sophie, for all we know, like, we can be talking with people for 51, 52, being like, I saw what Sophie Segretti did and I wanted to go on there and I wanted to fight too.
Starting point is 00:18:48 What's funny about Colby's or not, or what, is particularly poignant about Colby's story is that I feel like on heroes villains he did not like I feel like at one point there's like maybe it's Jeff somebody just describes him as like a shell of the former like survivor god that we knew and loved and so I I remember watching that and yeah being somebody who was such a Colby fan being like heartbroken like you are seeing your hero fall like how the mighty have fallen and then for him to come back on 50 and really like just felt like this redemption arc where he seemed much better placed in a variety of ways than he did when he was on hero's villains.
Starting point is 00:19:31 And that's just like a beautiful story about like aging and getting older in a way that like, yeah, we don't we don't always see. We don't always see like. And same with like a surrey coach. I think jury's still out on how he's playing versus some of his earlier seasons. But you know, like it's that age is really just a number for those players and that they. they not only had such a big impact, you know, those first couple of times, but they are continuing. But like Colby especially, I'm just so glad that he, yeah, I didn't.
Starting point is 00:20:00 I feel like Heroes Villains, his exit was really quite sad. And this one was sad, but in a different way. It felt much, there was a, there was an air of like triumph and celebration. Yeah. Despite him getting backs. Oh, 100%. Like, I could not agree more. And I think part of it that really is, if I had to pick like,
Starting point is 00:20:20 one defining moment. It's when Colby's leaving and he says, find the joy. Like, find the joy. And I think that that is what was missing from his hero's villains game. Like, it just being there and being able to really just appreciate and enjoy the experience. And even when he's still in the game, um, at tribal with Surrey. And they're kind of having an emotional exchange. And Colby even says, you know, look, man, it's just a game. It's just a game. Right. Find the joy. It's just a game. And I just like, oh, it just warms my heart so much. And I do absolutely agree. The word redemption is what popped into my mind when it comes to Colby's arc on the show. And I think especially to have Jeff say, what was it?
Starting point is 00:20:59 What is it? You see, it was one last time, Donaldson. And that got me, that got me. That was what got me. Because I'm like, because if you know the history between Jeff and Colby, like Colby was one of Jeff's initial golden boys. Right. People talk about like Jeff gives people preferential treatment.
Starting point is 00:21:13 That started all the way back in 2001. Oh, yeah. And so for him to call him by his last name, he was one of the original. people who like got the last name treatment. It just again, for us like truly old school fans, this is why again, it feels so weird when Jeff's like, even if you've never watched Survivor before,
Starting point is 00:21:28 you can watch season 50. It's like, you don't understand anything. I don't think you know who Donaldson is. You're like, yeah, but see before somebody else? Yeah, so Pua fell asleep during Trump's address in the middle because he like got, so he like missed all rest.
Starting point is 00:21:43 He wakes up. I am a mess. Oh, just sobbing on the couch. What the happened? Are you okay? Like what's going on? And I'm like, Colby.
Starting point is 00:21:56 I'm not the biggest Colby fan. I mean, like, I think he's fun and I think he's entertaining as a character, but oh man,
Starting point is 00:22:01 even it got me absolutely 100%. It is like, I have had, because you know, like beat on 49. I have friends and family and people I know
Starting point is 00:22:12 who started watching my season just because I was on it. And then now they're watching 50. And I'm trying to tell them like, no go back get the history like this will this does it's not going to hit the same unless you understand
Starting point is 00:22:27 like the lore and I feel like yeah the that tribal was just that was for those are those are for the fans who've been there for a while yeah that's that's exactly it it felt like a celebration for the first time in honestly a few weeks
Starting point is 00:22:43 I would say honestly far in a way that tribal council was the most I have enjoyed survived or 50 over the past couple of weeks. And it's weird because, yeah, it was almost like in spite of the episode. But regardless, it felt so entirely special because it was brought about by the cast.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Now, what is incredibly interesting in all this is that the biggest intrigue from this tribal council came from D&E, and Emily, trying to conspire, trying to perhaps manufacture their own multi-boot episode by being like, hey, if we vote out Colby, or we vote out coach, maybe Colby will be Medevac tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:23:18 and all of us are like, push Shaw, Salih the nurses, like, I don't think that's happening. But listen, I talked with Colby, and he revealed that, yes, he did hyper extend his foot on the Zach Brown reward, but also around the Zach Brown reward where, you know, things just go to die apparently on this season.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Colby punctured his foot and developed a staff infection. Oh, my God. Apparently, the worst staff infection, Dr. Joe would say that he's ever seen during his time on the show. Now, listen, that might be a whole Jeff Blood Moon thing I'm like, this is the worst staff infection I've ever seen, but it got to the
Starting point is 00:23:52 point where they were ready to pull it, as you know, Sophie, it seems like now, Sophie, as you know, there's a medical tent right at tribal council, they do the med checks before they send you all in. And so that night, and they checked up on Colby and Dr. Joe was like, I'm ready to pull you from this game. Oh, like right now.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Like this needs to be treated and Colby was like, listen, I'm going to get voted out anyway. If I happen to survive somehow, we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. but like let me go out quite literally on my feet. Like let me be able to get my torch stuffed here. And there's been some discussion of like, why could Colby get that but not Kyle?
Starting point is 00:24:27 But again, like, it's worth creating that moment. But yeah, it turns out that maybe Dee and Emily's thinking was not as like devilishly creative as we thought that. Maybe they did know that there was going to be some sort of outcome where Colby would have gotten pulled the next day. Wow.
Starting point is 00:24:44 That's fascinating. I am glad, though, that they didn't pull him and that they did have that moment because I completely agree with you, Mike, that was the most, that felt the most, like, celebratory of 50. And that's what the show, like, the show doesn't, that is why we come back and watch Survivor. It's not because of the crazy twists, you know, and it's not because of the celebrity rewards. You watch it for those moments. And so I hope that we get more of those kind of more natural, more organic celebrations of Survivor. but that wow I'm I'm glad he went on his feet but that is I mean a staff infection in Fiji on survivor is no joke I'm glad he got treatment when he did yeah yeah I do um I was I was curious
Starting point is 00:25:32 if seri had an alternative angle to wanting to keep coach for some reason because it did kind of seem odd um although I will say I really liked the line that seri had about do you gamble no then why are you gambling now? The Surrey, the Seri relationship is so fun because, like, how many times is Dee talking with Surrey and being like, remember what your friend told you about why you should get rid of Surrey? Because Sarin's having these conversations being like, Dee, why are you doing what you're doing right now?
Starting point is 00:26:01 And these should be major warning signs to Dee of like, get rid of her. Like, she is clearly an incredibly dangerous player. You are gambling. Like, she's going to the game with her. But she is, like, so firmly surrounded by, enough people that feel like she's on their side, including Dee,
Starting point is 00:26:21 that now it feels like they're in a relatively good place, at least for now. So yeah, a wild set of circumstances here. I did love that coach almost talked his way into getting booted because he for some reason decided to lie that Emily had a boot list that were all new era. That made me laugh.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Like when Zaree was like, why are you cutting off the tail of the snake instead of the head? I was like, oh, yeah, that's the tail trying to do something like. Yeah, the rattle, right? Like, Chris is the actual rattlesnake head that has the venom. Yeah, that's the distraction. Don't father. Well, and I also think that Ceres pitch was basically,
Starting point is 00:27:03 Colby has the most sway. And then what's the next scene we see? Colby going to D being like, I've got the most sway. Like, I'm not going to let them vote you out. So it kind of did play like directly into Ceres' argument. Totally. And I also think that, you know, a lot of speculation we had before the blood moon started rising was this idea of like, okay, this 17 people are roughly split as like this honor integrity.
Starting point is 00:27:26 You could call it a Zoom alliance. Maybe you can't. With like mostly old school plus like Jonathan, maybe Joe. And then Genevieve was a part of that. And then on the other side, we're like, again, the quote unquote gamer, new era people. Plus, assumingly, Surrey and Ozzie, they would be sort of in the middle. So I think if Surrey's goal is like. those people are not necessarily the ones I want to glom on to the whole way.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Then, yeah, take that opportunity to try to strike at the fault line while you have the numbers that you do rather than being like, all right, I guess I need what nine people to vote for Colby and a 17-first of tribal council. Yeah. Well, and I think you also have to be looking, right? You know what the other groups of five are. You can probably try to do the math on who you think is ultimately going to go. So if you're able to kind of predict ahead and say, ooh, yeah, Tiffany and Camilla are in a bad spot. We might lose one of our, you know, quote unquote gamers. Then you, you know, that also might factor into the decision of wanting to strike at Colby when you can. It's a good point.
Starting point is 00:28:27 I actually want to segue a little bit into trying to workshop if we can make this blood moon thing a little bit more palatable. So one detail that people pointed out on the day and you kind of mentioned it here too, Leanna, how would you have felt if instead of going to three separate camps, they all went back to the one beach to strategize? Would you have liked them trying to sort of angle for not only their own tribal councils, but for others at the same time? Okay. So in this hypothetical situation, they're still being split up into three groups to vote, but at least the initial strategy can happen on. Yeah. I mean, yeah, duh, that's better. Like anything that puts them together, like obviously I would prefer, I like Sophie's idea. of, well, they all have to vote together. And then either they have to vote three people off.
Starting point is 00:29:15 They know they have to vote three people off or something like that. And then it's like everybody's doing the math of like, oh, who gets the most votes out of three or maybe there's something. Like I just feel like there are so many better ways to come into the blood moon, which I did Google Blood Moon because I was curious. And like basically it's destruction, upheaval, right? We're talking about something crazy destructive. If you're going to do something crazy destructive, I just feel like there are.
Starting point is 00:29:41 so many different ways. And to your point, Mike, that's probably the first step in that direction to create more chaos, more destruction. It did feel like this, this is like the least destructive, the least chaos way. Like those were very chill. Nobody was scrambling. You know, there wasn't a scramble. Nobody talked about a scramble. So I would like, like I think I agree, if they were all in the same beach, that would start fun. Because then also you could have people fact checking. You could also have somebody give somebody an idol, you know, like, somebody could have like given Genevieve her idol back. Well, here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:30:17 To be fair, so the Billy Irish boomerang idols by law, again, by the creto declared in the case, Elish versus Probst, they cannot be played on somebody else. But it doesn't say anything about not being given to somebody else. Now, granted,
Starting point is 00:30:33 now that the information, as you said, Leanna, spread-like wildfire, maybe people would call it, but like there is a chance that somebody could have given something to somebody like, Genevieve and she's like, I have an idol and she can't play it, but it doesn't mean that she can't feign playing it, you know? Right, right.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Hmm. Yeah, I just think you need like, you need those interpersonal crossovers. That's where like the good of Survivor comes from. And we just, you don't have a lot of that. You can't have a lot of that when you're divided into three. So I think, yeah, first step, mix them all up. And then I think second step, it would have been like to also have,
Starting point is 00:31:11 one person immune from each. Yeah. You know, like we're really narrow now. And yeah, we're voting out three people, but we also can't vote out three people. Oh, that's a good point. Yeah. And technically you can't vote out five people because Rissot and Ozzy are all the same.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Oh, yeah. It was really actually slim pickings. That's crazy. Yeah. Oh, my God. I keep forgetting about the fact that Rizzo and Ozzie just effed off and like weren't even part of the blood moon twist. which I will say the Aussie segment of him being like,
Starting point is 00:31:45 please don't let it be exiled. Please. Sally pulls in its exile is like so great. So there was some certain beautiful moments about that. But yeah, I mean, again, how is that a destruction? It's just like the numbers didn't work out for you to do your three tribe swap, basically. So you decided to do this.
Starting point is 00:32:03 I don't know. Just a lot of sort of questionable decisions. All right. Well, I've got a couple of ideas to throw out to the two of the two of the. Now these come from to your friend of the podcast, Dwight Moore. He posted his own sort of manifesto on Twitter the other day in response to
Starting point is 00:32:19 the 50 merge episode. And so he has two possible twists or suggestions as to how this episode should go. So I'll have you picked your poison in a manner of speaking of which one we start with. So we have the bloodbath tribal and we have the pseudo split tribal council.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Okay. What do you want to go with first? I think we go bloodbath. Let's turn it up to 100. Let's see what we got. All right, starting with the bloodbath here. So I won't read like the whole thing out, but I'll try to sort of, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:50 ELI5 or TLDR here. Basically, at the individual immunity challenge, players are informed that there will be a bloodbath tribal council that night. Over the course of the night, three players will be voted out. The big twist, though, is any player that receives votes at a tribal council is immune for the remainder of the bloodbath.
Starting point is 00:33:14 So basically, let's say the three of us are going to tribal council, and me and Leanna vote for Sophie, and Sophie votes for me. So Sophie leaves, but because I received a vote, I'm immune for the next two rounds, so I cannot be voted for it because you think that, yes,
Starting point is 00:33:31 the back-to-back-to-back vote is very fun for the face-pack of the century. The downside would be, if there is a hard-and-fast majority going into tribal, it really, you know, makes it incredibly concrete of, okay, we just vote out the other two people that are on the bottom. In this case, if, you know, people are theoretically, if they know about this twist, then, like, you could vote for a close ally of your Sophie to protect them from subsequent votes. That's a fascinating, that's a fascinating twist. Hmm. Yeah, that would be interesting because, like, if you had a majority alliance, like, couldn't you just, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:34:08 like my concern, okay, if they had enough time, right, to strategize and actually felt comfortable enough. Like, if you had a majority alliance, how many of them were there? 17 going into that? Okay, so 17. So let's say it's like, I don't know, uh, five in the minority and 12 in the majority. Okay, you put six votes on your target and then do you like put one single vote on like other people? But then, but then could those five people find one of those people and put their votes? Because that's the thing. Like you're playing with fire. If you get a vote, you're immune. But that doesn't mean that other people take advantage of that split and come over the top.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Sure. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that would certainly be a bloodbath. That's for sure. It would definitely be very chaotic. I would love to see that. I would love to try to play that out and see.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Yeah, see what would happen alliance-wise? Like, would one majority alliance kind of steamroll? Or would immunity will out and, let it kind of shake it up. Yeah. I'm thinking I like the concept of a surprise. Like I want them to be surprised that there's another vote. Like I get that there could be some predictability.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Now, obviously they're coming in 17 brand new brand fresh. Like they don't have as a group the voting history that would give them confidence going into like all these votes to be like, oh, don't worry guys. Like we got our 12. We're good. Let's just vote out three of them. them or whatever. So I think that there wouldn't be some inherent chaos to it.
Starting point is 00:35:41 But I want, okay, so we could do that. And I want there to be a surprise. I want them to vote. And then I want Jeff to be like, hold up. Yeah, nah, nah, nah, nah, and then all of the sudden. Yeah. Yes, exactly. I want that element to it.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Surprise them in some way. I love, I love a good surprise. Yeah. So then you won't like the other one then. Oh, okay. Because the pseudo split tribal council is sort of a version of what we got, where basically, you know, there will be two players. So two players to have advantages.
Starting point is 00:36:13 They don't go to exile, though. We'll bring that up in a little bit. The other 15 players are divided up into three groups of five. And one player is voted out from each group, but it's done by everybody. So everyone votes out one person from each group, essentially. So it's all done at tribal council. You're essentially putting like three votes in the earn,
Starting point is 00:36:33 one from group A, one from group B, one from group C. and the person who finds the advantage in the woods gets to pick their group, essentially. So they get to basically pick who they want to be sort of vulnerable alongside. Hmm. I think I like the first idea better. So does Dwight for what it's worth.
Starting point is 00:36:52 He said, well, that's my preferred idea of two by a large margin. Yeah, okay. I'm wondering if there's a universe where they could all vote together at 17, then split into two.
Starting point is 00:37:08 at 16, two groups of eight. Of eight. And then that's three people. Because I'm also assuming that based on the number of episodes, like three was the number that they needed to target and then also to hit jury. And I'm sure for those reasons. So I'm just going to assume that that's a fixed constraint
Starting point is 00:37:26 that we can't change. So I would consider playing around with something like that. I just like, I love the idea that if you're going to merge at 17, like that's so many people. We've never seen it before. I just kind of, yeah, exactly. I just kind of want to see how it plays out.
Starting point is 00:37:40 And even if we have to do kind of like a boring two person swap next, like I just want the novelty of 17 people all trying to vote together. Well, and also like I would not say that a split into two groups is like incredibly boring because then it would be eight and eight, which at the very beginning is like, I think more entertaining than six, certainly more entertaining than five in terms of, again, all the different permutations that can exist. And unless you feel like someone is particularly screwed because, oh, you know, there's three people in the group that are going to,
Starting point is 00:38:08 going to automatically be against them. And so therefore they're, they're pretty much DOA no matter what. Yeah. I just, I'm picturing like if we had been given the blessing of a 17 person tribal, like the beach beforehand, watching,
Starting point is 00:38:22 like I would have loved to watch that of everyone, pulling everyone, running around. Like it just, it would have been so fun. And I feel like they robbed us of that amazing TV. Because, yeah, to your point,
Starting point is 00:38:34 like we've never had that before. That would have been sick. And then, yeah, fine. divide do eight and eight whatever but like i wanted one massive we just get shots of like all of these groups of pairs talking and like speed dating switching around like that's that's what i would have loved to see and i think the players also would have loved that that would have been like a really fun i think because like for our season we got a true merge vote and that first vote was so fun like it's the
Starting point is 00:39:03 first time you get to talk to some people and it's so fun to do it with like actual stakes versus, you know, like, they're now going to enter this merge with some more lines thoroughly drawn because of the split than had, yeah, then had they kind of gone in carte blanche were just 17 people. Let's see what's up. Which is interesting, though, because I feel like your merge was very rare, especially for the new era and that like it did feel like at least in the moment there was a line drawn in the sand, right? Like he was an authentic blindside on four people in the cast. Whereas ordinarily, it's like, like a, oh, just pile like 10 votes onto somebody.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Like, let's all agree on someone. But it does feel like for this season, again, but if the dynamics I was illuminating previously bared out, like it actually seemed like it was going to be a fairly split tribe. Or there was going to be at least, I imagine, some people left out of the vote. And maybe that will still be the case. But maybe it's not because, again, as you mentioned,
Starting point is 00:39:59 it does become a little bit more abundantly clear. Like, you know, Camilla has insinuated that when she was voted out, she basically assumed like, okay, the Zoom alliance is a thing. because Jonathan voted with them instead of us. Like perhaps now it's become a bit more of, okay, I realize now who you lay with. This got confirmed in this vote
Starting point is 00:40:17 rather than the big vote we have at 17 people. Right. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, we've got a lot of predictions to get into here from the preseason. And as always, Sophie, you will be the adjudicator to figure out.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Julian and I had the better pulse of when it comes to all three of these boots, all three of our last pre-jury people. So last time for us to determine whether or not our predictions of making the jury were accurate. So I guess we'll go in the order they were voted out in. It does kind of suck that Camilla went first, even though for group one Applebee's.
Starting point is 00:40:52 You think maybe she'd be able to at least earn the spot of like 15th place for that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, because they, okay, they aired the amount of order. You think so? Right. Right. Or do you think they knew. that Colby was probably going to get pulled,
Starting point is 00:41:09 so they did the his last. I don't know yet because, well, I mean, Jeff did, so we have Jeff on camera saying this is the third and final. So maybe they knew that like, okay, this Colby situation's happening. So let's save it for last. I don't know. Camilla told Dalton Ross that she,
Starting point is 00:41:23 she was the only one on her boat going back to Ponderosa. So either they just decided not to wait for Genevieve to put it on with her or they're like, okay, maybe she went second and they sent her off. They kept everyone separated. I'm not entirely sure about what the order of operations was. I'm just curious.
Starting point is 00:41:42 All right. Let's talk about Camilla here, Leanna. Definitely a standout character of season 48. Sophie's beloved, forget your first, even if it's an invisible first. So first of Sophia, I want to get your thoughts, actually, on Camilla's game. Because, listen, you've gotten to know her as well
Starting point is 00:42:00 for your time on and off the island. What did you make of the time that she spent in the course of season 50 and what we got from her on season 50. I, like, I so, like, I loved the Kyle Camilla on 48. And so I was so excited to watch her on 50. And I feel like we were getting some great Camilla. I feel like, though, she, if I think of who it was,
Starting point is 00:42:23 maybe it was Chrissy, who just, like was like, she's dangerous. And I think what made her such an amazing player on 48 was that she had that, like, air of surprise in that she was doing a great job. that like, yeah, playing up maybe some more of her, like the goofier aspects of her personality and not letting like her shark teeth show.
Starting point is 00:42:42 But the problem when you play again is that everybody knows how you played. And so I feel like she did not have the benefit of, yeah, like pretending that she's somebody who she's not. And so I think she is kind of a victim of like playing a little too hard and or people just knowing that she is that much of a shark. But I was like, Yeah, I, I feel like she has a game that's hard to replicate twice
Starting point is 00:43:10 because so much of it was the air of surprise. And like her and Kyle's like relationship. And so, but I was, I was sad. Like, I just like personally find her so fun to watch on TV that I was like bummed to lose her as like a storyteller and narrator and commenter because I feel like, yeah, she, she has like great takes. on people. But I,
Starting point is 00:43:38 I did when I saw that, that tribal or that those, the draw. The draw. I was like, oh shit. Like I feel like,
Starting point is 00:43:49 I feel like Tiffany. I feel like they're going to see that Tiffany is not as much of a threat as Camilla. And she's not. And they're going to cut Camilla off. So that was like a real, yeah, that was a real bummer.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Because like, honestly, I'd rather have Camilla on screen than Chrissy or Tiffany. but that's the game. Well, I had higher expectations for Camilla in my prediction. I did have her making the jury. So I said that, and this is sort of similar, Sophie, to what you were saying, but I said that Camilla proves her worth in the premurge with her puzzle prowess, playing a major role keeping Kalo dominant in challenges.
Starting point is 00:44:29 However, once the merge hits, the game shifts from tribe strength to individual threat and Camilla's reputation as a smart, strategic player quickly catches up to her. Joe spearheads the charge pitching Camilla the kind of player you don't take chances on, and he knows that all too well. Despite having solid social connections with Dee and Tiffany, the majority agrees it's better to strike first than to be outplayed later. Camilla becomes the easy consensus merge boot going from essential to expendable overnight. her allies were Dee and Tiffany
Starting point is 00:45:02 and her enemy was Joe. Oh, look at you. Pretty darn close. Pretty darn close. This is interesting, yeah, because I think I will have closer to the placement, but I don't know if the story will match up to that because I did have Camilla going pre-jury.
Starting point is 00:45:18 I wrote, Camilla is horrified when she hears the news about Kyle's Medevac. I saw the accident, so I knew that he was probably not going to be very long in the world. But in private, she eagerly discusses the silver lining of the situation. as nobody will talk about the allure of Kyle and Camilla for the rest of her time in the game. Camilla is literally jaw agape when she sees coach will be sharing the same beach as her.
Starting point is 00:45:41 We'll be treated to a montage of her prompting him for stories, nicknames, and daily teachings of Coach Chi. While coach planned to come in and immediately showcase, he's a changed man, leaving it to Camilla to have him succumb to his worst habits, prompting some annoyance from the rest of his tribe. after the swap, Camilla is hungry to play and she believes she's been given a great utensil
Starting point is 00:46:03 when she ends up on the same tribe as Joe. She has no idea, however, how Joe is still trying to pick the underwear out of his crack from being given a wedge in on national television. When Camilla gets word that her new tribe is targeting the 48 players as a possible pair, she immediately tells Joe to try to mobilize a counterforce. But Joe, subscribing to the Michael Scott,
Starting point is 00:46:23 fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice, won't get fooled again mentality, feels this is another class, classic Camillae, okay, to do him. And so he joins the throng who unanimously vote her out of the game. Her closest ally was coach and her enemy was Joe. Yeah. Joe, I guess.
Starting point is 00:46:46 I'll go ahead, Sophie. I was just going to say, I do feel like the, yeah, I feel like you were both kind of getting at the same thing, which is that like Camilla came out of 48 with a big target, on her back and being back on the beach with Kyle did not help that. And Joe did not help that. Like she, she came in with a little bit of baggage and I think it did end up biting her. So who do you think was a more on the marker?
Starting point is 00:47:15 I have a, I have a hunch. I don't think this will be a complete shocker, much like the many votes in this episode. But I'll put it in pen. I feel like I got to go with the, I feel like I got to go with you, Mike, because you got it like right. pre-merge, like she doesn't. Me, I know it's going to be Leanna. Well, because now I'm confused because do I go by like the placement or do I go
Starting point is 00:47:36 by the spirit of the people? It's whatever, yeah, whatever criteria you want. You have whatever criteria. Oh, shit. Okay, then I'm going Leanna because I do the spirit of it. Now I'm flip-flopping back in. Yay. No, no, no. You got it. You nailed it. So good.
Starting point is 00:47:53 Because I do, I mean, like, we see her crush in the, she crushes in the challenges as a group. you know, and so I was kind of, it's a real bummer that like she won or she did really well in the tribe challenges. And then as soon as we get, it's going to be a little split, split. She got caught. But I did think once individual challenges came, she was going to be not long for this world. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:15 All right. Well, let's get into our second boot here in Genevieve. I'll start with my prediction on Genevieve this time around. I had Genevieve making the jury. Mm-hmm. I wrote, despite entering the game with no friends, that status lasts about as long as I would playing Expedition 33. Between her locking in with another chaotic man in Q,
Starting point is 00:48:35 as well as the old school war happening on Batu, she is happy to replicate her edit in her first season slipping under the radar in the first few episodes. Adam meant to find an idol for real this time. Genevieve's searching is successful when she finds her tribe's trinket. She excitedly informs Q about it, unaware that it just made him more eager to blindside her with it in her pocket, making her an honorary cast member of Survivor 46.
Starting point is 00:48:59 While Q's departure certainly stings, spoiler alert, he did get voted out in the pre-jury in my predictions here, Genevieve is luckily able to find his chaotic replacement in Rizzo. Indeed, with him also missing Savannah, it's the perfect timing for the two to lock in, especially as he believes the theory that she's trying to redeem her relationship game this season. Unfortunately, being partnered with two of the biggest new era characters means the majority of confessionals will go to them, not her. Her lack of airtime will prompt a hashtag Where's Genevieve movement spurred on by the season 47 cast on social media.
Starting point is 00:49:34 As the old school, new school divide emerges in the early jury, Genevieve becomes a prominent target of the classic players. Aubrey is particularly leading the charge, ready to get her gone, girl. When she hears the target is Rizzo, Genevieve chooses to play her idol on him, showcasing the social game. she felt she failed to make the first time. But the Riz cloud obscures the move being made against her, and she's blindsided with the complete wrong read.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Her ally was Q, then Rizzo, and her enemy, the editors. Which, Sophie, I think you can relate. Oh, for sure. I am so proud to be lumped in Genevieve in the Sophie Yellow edit. Oh, yeah. I like the Riz cloud. I like the idea of the blood moon. coming out from behind the Riz cloud.
Starting point is 00:50:26 Oh, man. Okay, so, you know, I'm like, I also had Genevieve making the jury. Hmm. So I said, coming into this season, Genevieve is determined to lean into the social side of the game, prioritizing relationships. Although she must be bad luck because as soon as she gets close to somebody, example, Kyle or Angelina, they get voted out forcing Genevieve to reset. Once the merge hits, Genevieve continues to pick up new number.
Starting point is 00:50:53 pulling in Q, Devin's, and Christian, and even working loosely with Rizzo, always positioned in the middle, but never fully locked in. However, watching Genevieve turn on her closest ally Q sets off alarm bells for Christian. If she'll cut Q, she'll cut anyone. He pulls in Devons and flips the script
Starting point is 00:51:12 to boot our Canadian queen. With so many connections, but no true ride or die, Genevieve has no one left to defend her and is taken out as the biggest social threat of the game. I had her ally as Q and enemy Christian and Devons. Oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Oh, okay. I think, okay, I think Mike, you get this one because I feel like what we're seeing or what we saw before she went is, yeah, I was kind of shocked that Genevieve really was like making her,
Starting point is 00:51:40 was joining kind of the old school honor boys club. And I realized that like she's a lawyer. And so she probably can like really fit into kind of any group, but is, yeah, it's probably used to working with. some more, like some of the more masculine honor integrity, folks. So that, yeah, that surprised me watching it, but that's what we saw.
Starting point is 00:52:01 She was not, she was not down to hang with Aubrey. I do, the old, Aubrey. When Westchette first took flight in 1996, the vibes were a bit different. People thought denim on denim was peak fashion. Inline skates were everywhere, and two out of three women rocked, the Rachel. While those things stayed in the 90s, one thing that hasn't is that fuzzy feeling you get when West Jet welcomes you on board. Here's to WestJetting since 96. Travel back in time with us and actually travel with us at westjet.com slash 30 years.
Starting point is 00:52:31 As you mentioned, I'd be remiss not to stop down and ask about your thoughts about this, this Aubrey-Geneve rivalry now that it has seemingly ceased as a storyline. I loved, it's funny because I did feel like there's a world where they actually like were the strongest duo and then, you know, cut one at four or whatever, but because they are so similar and they could be like, look, we're going to be target. Like there was a world where maybe they could have been a great duo. But that first episode when Aubrey is like, you're giving me weird vibes or something,
Starting point is 00:53:09 I was like, oh, okay, so there can only be one. Like one of you is going to take out the other one. Like this cannot. I'm honestly a little shocked. It lasted as long as it did. Like I think maybe was it last, maybe it was last episode that I was like, or two episodes ago where I was like, oh shit, it's coming to a head. There is a lot.
Starting point is 00:53:30 Like, I think Aubrey's going to try to take Genevieve out. Like, this is seeming messy. When Tiff told Aubrey about Genevieve's infidelity. And so I loved seeing it. It did. It gave me like a little bit of an echo of like the Genevieve v. Rachel that we had. But I think I would have liked to see if they had tried to work together a little bit more like I know that it yeah clearly there were some maybe they're oil and vinegar they're
Starting point is 00:54:02 too alike they can't get long uh but I think it would have been cool if they could have tried but yeah I did I feel like after that first episode I was like okay Harry Potter Voldemort neither can live while the other survives we got to we got to kill the horrocks and unfortunately that was Genevieve yeah it was very much that I do kind of feel like I there was was so much build up for it. And then for it to kind of just be like, well, Genevieve got swap screwed and there was kind of no shot. She plays her shot in the dark, as you mentioned,
Starting point is 00:54:34 which means there's a consensus boot. She knows she's going home. There's nothing that she can do. Right. It's kind of a little bit of a whimper to end what was built up to be this super hyped rivalry. And so I totally hear you with saying, oh, I'm surprised it lasted this long.
Starting point is 00:54:48 And I almost wish it didn't because I think if they had actually gone to tribal, you know, a real tribal, then I think we would have. seen a lot more fireworks. And I think it would have been a lot more interesting to watch than what we got. Because not to mention, yeah, in that scenario and really either tribe they were a part of, it seemed like the structure was that Aubrey would be on the bottom, but everyone pretty much knew she had an idol before the information was even out there. So they're like, okay, we'll vote for her to try to flush it, but like, who do we split on? And so like, you have Aubrey still in the game
Starting point is 00:55:18 on the outside, but clearly as a presence. So the tension, I think, would still thicken as, as, I mean, It was pretty dang thick to begin with. But just also I think that, I mean, you could speak to this as well, Stope, like not going to tribal in the pre-merge. I can only imagine how much the tension without the fulfillment of like somewhat of a resolution through voting ends up building over the course of half the season. Right. Like I feel like we could have had like a really fun tribal where, yeah, because to your point,
Starting point is 00:55:47 you have these thoughts of who's on your team and who's not and who you don't like and who you do like and who's been gunning for you. but you have no confirmation yet. And so, yeah, like I feel it makes for a great first kind of, well, tribal because, you know, Genevieve is probably thinking, okay, these are my allies, I think. These are people I've told I think they're on my side, but also there's been this weird thing brewing with Aubrey and I don't know.
Starting point is 00:56:14 And like, I just, I think that we could have really seen, yeah, like a much more interesting way. And maybe Genevieve ends up going. going home anyways, but it wouldn't have been as black and white. And maybe some other people like, yeah, maybe we would have flushed in idol or like, we made it to the merge and we haven't flushed an idol, you know? Like, I mean, I know I know I know 48 was not or 49 was, I know we were not good. I know I don't play a leg to stand on about idol flushing, but like we were newbies.
Starting point is 00:56:44 These are veterans. They got to be flushing idols. I'm playing the first timer card on that one. Well, Christian looked, uh, not so happy. and Aubrey didn't play her idol or maybe, I don't know, maybe that was me misinterpreting Christian's emotions, but, you know, Aubrey goes into that tribal saying like,
Starting point is 00:57:01 or what we saw before was, oh, yeah, I'm definitely playing it. I'm obviously playing it. And then doesn't play it. And I can imagine, like I, like I'm going through, like what would be going through my head, right? If I were aligned with somebody who not only did, was I aligned with them,
Starting point is 00:57:18 but I gave them, I mean, Shizna was Christian, but like Devin, for example, she thinks gave the eye, So it's like, oh, you lie to me. Should Christian have been playing hard to get a little bit more? Is he like, yeah, I'm voting for you, but I'm like, I'm kind of mulling over my options. So then she gets spooked enough to play the idol because the reason why she didn't,
Starting point is 00:57:39 and it's very fair on her part because it was certifiably correct is like, I am in no danger right now. I basically have implicit immunity. So maybe if you do kind of put a little bit of spook in her of like, yeah, I mean, it's nice you have that idol. but like if you get voted out with it, then it comes back to one of us, then maybe it could have put a little bit of peppiner step.
Starting point is 00:58:00 What's the order? So obviously we saw the order of operations be Genevieve plays her shot in the dark. Jeff reads the result of the shot in the dark. And then Aubrey could have played her idol or by the time Jeff reads it, then it's like, nope, that's done. Like no more idol's advantages.
Starting point is 00:58:19 I'm trying to remember because I don't think we've ever had an instance were, oh yeah, no, we did. Actually, 47. But yes, because Rachel remember played her shot in the dark purposely to see if it hits. And if, you know, she got, or if it didn't hit and she got, she saw some sort of reaction, then she would play her idol. But she saw that nobody really was alarmed about it. So she was fine not to play her idol.
Starting point is 00:58:39 So it should go, shot in the dark goes first sort of in the batting order. And then next up are the idols. It's kind of weird because, again, that does allow Aubrey. Some people feel like a little unfair of her being like, well, I can basically wait until the person I was voting for. reveals if they're safe or not and then I play. But that's the thing with everything. You know, I think back to like winners at war when it was the traffic jam
Starting point is 00:58:59 between Jeremy and Sarah was playing their advantages of like, you go first, no, you go first. Like there's not really Robert's rule of order here. It's just basically like you kind of figure it out based on etiquette or based on you trying to strong arm somebody else into playing something. That's fair. Yeah, because I did wonder if she like in scene Genevieve play,
Starting point is 00:59:19 her shot in the dark was like, oh, okay, Genevieve obviously thinks it's, it is 100% her. So like, yeah, I will take her word for it and I won't play my idol. Right. Well, and then I think also even if,
Starting point is 00:59:31 if Aubrey thought, because that's the other thing too, is like we don't know if Aubrey thought that Christian was a swing boat by any meat stretch of the imagination. So she felt like, oh, well,
Starting point is 00:59:43 now it's four to one, or three to one, I mean, right? Because now Genevieve can't even pass to vote. So there's like no, you know, I would have to be flipped on by multiple people.
Starting point is 00:59:51 That's true. Yeah. Yeah. with Joe being another option. Yeah, it's like, oh, well, I'm definitely still safe no matter what. Yeah, yeah. So all that being said, Colby, let's talk about Colby. Again, let's take a hard turn the way that this episode did.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Yes. The Colpster. So, Leanna, obviously, my interview with Colby was an incredibly fun time. I think a lot of people, myself included, you probably yourself included, were greatly surprised with the enthusiasm, the verb that Colby brought into time number four. But how did that verb translate to the game? game proper. Yes. I said that Colby enters the game with a chill Colby personality, immediately lowering his threat level to near zero just here to have a good time. He forms
Starting point is 01:00:36 tight bonds with Stephanie as fellow old schoolers pulling in Jonathan and Joe at the merge to create oh, I had a making jury by the way, to create the loyal to the soil alliance, which I gave the acronym LTTS, which I don't think is even easier to say than just loyal to the soil, but whatever. Because none of them are seen as overly strategic or flashy players, the group slips through the early merge, completely untouched,
Starting point is 01:01:02 while bigger threats take each other out. However, as the numbers dwindle, players begin to realize that Colby and Stephanie are the glue holding together a very real four-person voting block. Not wanting to let the loyal to the soil group march to the end, the rest of the tribe comes together to break them up
Starting point is 01:01:19 with Colby being the first casualty. His allies were Stephanie Joe Jonathan, LTTTS, and his enemy was... Stephanie Joe Jonathan sounds like the name of an upcoming country artist. I love their work. Enemy was Rick Devons. Do you think they would have won a... How do they would they react if they learned
Starting point is 01:01:38 that they were going to the sanctuary to witness a concert by Stephanie Joe Jonathan? Probably the exact same as they did for Zach Brown. Yeah, wait. It's pretty much exactly the same. D would have been the only one excited. She's like, oh, my God, I love Stephanie Joe Jonathan. My favorite.
Starting point is 01:01:52 I mean, maybe I have jury duty on the brain, but that would be the great ultimate prank is like, we just made up this person and they like put like Jeff Probst in prosthetics and makeup and he shows up to the sanctuary. They should do that. Coach would have been crying again. This is just, I'm so honored to be here, revered. Yeah, I mean, it's great because you just have to do with Zach Brown did with his new song.
Starting point is 01:02:17 We're like, you don't know this, but sing along. easy call and response. It would have been amazing to just have them be some of like, God, Stephanie Joe Jonathan's music take me, took me to a new level.
Starting point is 01:02:28 My life has not been the same since Stephanie Joe Jonathan came in mind. You have D crying back at camp of like God, SJJ is tattooed on the back of my ear. Oh my God. That would have been hilarious. I hope somebody from production is listening
Starting point is 01:02:41 and files us away for like 53. They love Jeff goofiness. Like you want, let Jeff go full undercover boss. You know, But let's get in like a mullet wig and a big old bulbousy nose and aviator sunglasses. All right. We know that he's an aspiring singer slash rapper.
Starting point is 01:03:00 So I think that it was in the first. So I also had Colby making the jury. Perhaps I wish we'll think of all of our parts, but we were so there, so close. We're treated to a couple of very poignant moments from Colby in the premiere. He pontificates on a Fijian sunrise, wondering how the hell he got back out here. He sees himself in the young Rizzo,
Starting point is 01:03:18 over explaining to him the ways of the world. He immediately meets up with Stephanie once more as the two of them lock in his number one allies through his dying day. Colby will far and away have the most exuberant post-challenged celebrations out of anyone in the cast. I will try many times to make the term colbibrations work,
Starting point is 01:03:39 but it catches as much fire as Colby's movie career post Red Eye. Upon hitting the merge, Colby will take moments to sit down with each of Coach and Surrey individually, patching up their differences from Samoa 15 years ago. Of course, like his Heroes versus Villains reconciliation with Jerry, it doesn't make the edit whatsoever. As a group of old school players amasses as an alliance,
Starting point is 01:03:59 Colby becomes personified as the head of the snake. He talks the most both to the camera and at tribal about the value of sticking to your promises and not rocking the boat when you don't need to. However, Colby's stoic strategy makes him a bit too big for his denim britches. And so the power couple of Charlie and Chrissy, feeling on the bottom of the old schoolers decide to sweep Colby out of the game
Starting point is 01:04:21 like a rice canister in an Australian flood. They gather all the outsiders to mount a plurality vote, prompting an absolutely apoplectic golly! Despite not getting the win, Colby's renewed love for being on reality TV as well as the boosted profile
Starting point is 01:04:37 from his return leads him to go back into hosting. He gets recruited as the emcee of Netflix's new hit show steal your gate. a dating series starring 20 welders and metal workers looking for same-sex love. His ally was Stephanie
Starting point is 01:04:55 and his enemy Chris and George. What? So I guess I was going for double pun there where it was same-sex mother's steel like steel S-E-E-L. Yes, yes. And then gays, not gays,
Starting point is 01:05:11 with like, eyes, but gays. No, Ozzy residents of all the Zs. Oh my goodness gracious. Did you like just watch, what's that new Netflix show, Age of Attraction or something? You were like, man, they're really scraping the bottom of the barrel. We need to come up with some new idea. This was right before age of attraction. But even then you had like sexy beasts, right?
Starting point is 01:05:27 Oh, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, with the masks. Netflix had been weighed in these like staff infection laden waters for the better part of the best quarter decade. All right. Oh, my God. Again, Leon and I both had Colby making the jury. But who had the more accurate path to getting to that incorrect prediction. I feel like it's Leanna because of the,
Starting point is 01:05:49 the style in which Colby got there. Like I feel like on 50, yes, it was kind of quiet triumphant, but he was still doing his chill more under the radar Colbyness than like a cold columbration. Colvibration, please.
Starting point is 01:06:05 Colvibration. It rolls right off the tug. I feel like I've never seen, like I feel like he is not an exuberant man anymore. You know, he can't jump. You hear all the times in the background when he would just go, yeah, anything that Jeff said.
Starting point is 01:06:22 But I do, yeah, I feel like, clearly you guys both hit the nail on the head with like, he's going to go old school. He's not, he unfortunately can't be taught the new age tricks. But I do think, like, Liana, you kind of hit it that he's, because he did kind of seem like, although you did get head of the snake, but he didn't seem like the quiet head of the snake. Like, it was interesting to me that. that Surrey had to tell Dee that for Dee to, like,
Starting point is 01:06:50 Dee wasn't clocking that Colby was running that show until he, until he showed his hand. To be fair, D had never met Colby until that day. True. Yeah. No, I'd be, I'm honored to take the, the point. I will say jury's still out on steal your gaze. So if that comes through, Mike, then I, I would, if steal your gaze,
Starting point is 01:07:14 a show about what metalworking homosexuals. If that show happens, I will give you this point. Like, I will complete my point in Billy Eilish fashion to you if that show is real. Be right back, I'm just going to call it a few flavors to Netflix. I can make this work. No, it's great idea. Call all the welders you know.
Starting point is 01:07:37 I just think back to that Simpson's a gay steel mill. That's perhaps the inspiration for steal your days. like Kobe Donaldson for some reason. Like not part of the community. No. I don't think a welder. Is he a welder? That's why I put it there.
Starting point is 01:07:53 Now he's a welder. That's what he does. Now he's a welder. Okay. There we go. Okay. Steal your gaze. Do you help but there's a comment there like steal comma your gaze?
Starting point is 01:08:09 Yeah. Your gaze. Well, I'm just happy to take a break from Nicolet She. hosting something for once, so I'm okay with that. Yeah. Oh, boy. Okay. Let's pivot into our game for this episode. Now, the moment that I heard the term blood moon, I knew I had to go to the Survivor Facebook page for a game that we like to call casuals.
Starting point is 01:08:33 I think this is a lot more about you than it does the twist. Yeah, I would say so as well, but I'm like, I need to know what the casuals are saying. So the way that this game works is I have pulled comments from the Survivor Facebook page. But in a little bit of a twist to the game that we normally do, I'm going to read two comments, but
Starting point is 01:08:53 one might be fake or two might be fake. So you have three possible options to pick. Either both are real. One is real, one is fake. You don't have to identify which one. Okay. Although you can take a guess for funsies, or
Starting point is 01:09:09 both are fake. Right? So those are your three possible options. after I read you your two comments. Now, I'm curious, Sophie, did you do any gallivanting into the quote unquote casual community during your time on Survivor 49? I did not, but I really should have because I think what I realized is that I am closer to a casual fan
Starting point is 01:09:31 than I am to the Reddit stats, you know, deep fan. Because while I have watched all of the seasons, I have not analyzed them to within an inch of their life. And so I really should have. But as a casual, I had no idea where to find the other casuals. So I was just, unfortunately, being, like, shown Reddit posts by my non-casual friends who then were upset why I wasn't, like, in the community. Okay.
Starting point is 01:10:03 When I sell my business, I want the best tax and investment advice. I want to help my kids, and I want to give back to the community. Ooh, then it's the vacation of a lifetime. I wonder if my head of office has a forever setting. An IG Private Wealth advisor creates the clarity you need with plans that harmonize your business, your family, and your dreams. Get financial advice that puts you at the center. Find your advisor at IGPrivatewealth.com. Let's see if that helps you here.
Starting point is 01:10:36 So we're going to go back and forth. Oh, by the way, actually, we already mentioned the Aussie-Rizzo relationship. Azo. Oh, yeah. I will say one comment. I couldn't find a way to work this end of the game, but one fan was like, the Billy Idol is ridiculous,
Starting point is 01:10:54 which I'm so upset. I didn't think of that first. It's so funny. And because they also spelled it Billy, not Billy Idol, like B-I-L-L-Y, but they did spell it like Billy Island. Yeah, so it's Billy Idol. And that's just so funny to me.
Starting point is 01:11:09 And I can't get over that. That's so funny. I hope it was intentional. I hope so too. And again, just Matt, kicking myself for not thinking, of that first. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:11:17 Was it a real bitter taste that you didn't get the chance to jump on that? I know. Yes. Yes. All right. Bitter like a lime. So, Mike, we are going to go to you first.
Starting point is 01:11:29 Here are your two comments. Comment number one. Blood moons are supposed to be spooky. This was not spooky. The second comment is, I am a fan of the blood moon twist why make them merge then split them again
Starting point is 01:11:51 hated it oh I love that's like straight out of like in living color like that review towards the end um see the first one's so funny because it's like what twists are spooky
Starting point is 01:12:05 you know like I don't think we judge anything on what terrifies you as a viewer like that's not the purpose I would say of a survivor It's more so to like surprise and stupefy than scare. I know those are a little bit like rectangles and squares, but I don't know. It feels like a difference to surprise rather than spook people.
Starting point is 01:12:26 Yeah, this isn't fear factor. You know, like we're not going to have to go like put their hand in a tank of tarantulas. Oh, that should have been the do or die. Remember the days of the doer die? Like that should have been like, oh, you stick your hands in a tarantula jar. And one of them is has the idol. You just have to get the idol. You can just pick this idle up.
Starting point is 01:12:45 Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Okay. All right. So Mike, what is your, so you got three choices, right? Both are real. Yeah. One's real, one's fake or both are fake.
Starting point is 01:12:57 I'm going to say, I'm going to go half and half. Yeah, I'm going to go halvesies. I'm going to take the middle option. If I could hazard a guess, I think the second one is when you made up. Okay. So, uh, you, uh, are wrong. They are actually. both fake. I wrote both of them.
Starting point is 01:13:15 Oh my God. You wrote spooky? I did write spooky. Spooky's really funny. That's why I told you I was looking up what blood moons mean. Spooky. Okay. So and actually just to just to get into this because these weren't necessarily funny, but I will say the casuals absolutely echoed basically everything that we had talked about. Quit calling at the merge when you immediately separate them into three tribes. What's the point of merging if you're just going to split them? merge them into three groups.
Starting point is 01:13:43 The producers don't even know what the word merge means. Right. So there was a lot of that. Additionally, people had suggested if you wanted to do a blood moon thing, have it be real chaos. Everyone should have gone to a single tribal council. You know,
Starting point is 01:13:56 scrambling in chaos would have been insane. Right. So there were a lot of suggestions, basically echoing, I think what a lot of us had said, which was sort of this faux merge thing, was a little bit anticlimactic. It didn't necessarily feed into the blood moon of it all.
Starting point is 01:14:09 Okay, Sophie, let's go to you for the next two comments. Ooh, okay. Is it just me, or was Jeff laying it on pretty thick with his Applebee's ad? Oh, yeah, we didn't even talk about that. Oh, yeah, that was a lot. You know, it was like watching an episode of Nova and then it took a commercial break. Right? It's like, this episode was brought to you by Applebee's.
Starting point is 01:14:35 You went into a lot of detail with all the food. It was a lot. Okay, so that was your first comment. Your second comment is Applebee's in my town is kind of sketchy. Funny that that's their sponsor. Sketchy, not spooky. The blood moon is supposed to be sketchy. Okay, I'm going to roll the dice and say that both of these are real.
Starting point is 01:14:57 Oh. Okay. So you are also incorrect. Now, one is real. So have credit there. The one that was real was the Applebee's in my town is kind of sketchy. Funny that that's their sponsor. No, they, yeah, the casuals also, I have a whole section of comments about Applebee's.
Starting point is 01:15:20 Basically being like not so sneaky ad for Applebee's. And then some people were like, I love Applebee's. So very much a split tribal there, I suppose, when it comes to Applebee's judgment. Okay, Mike, let's go back to you. Your first comment is, I'm glad majority of us are on the same page with Rizzo. Dude looks like Rattitoui. Which I do.
Starting point is 01:15:55 Listen, if you picked any book of the library to be on the same page of when it came to Rizzo opinions, him looking like Linguini, the humanistic character from Rattitoui, would not even, it'd be out for lending. Okay, so this was, Rattatooie was the rat, though, right? That's not even, the name is not even Rattu is the name of the film. Remy is the name of the mouth.
Starting point is 01:16:18 I say this, I say this because I am consistently compared to the band from Rattu. I know the intricacies of this movie inside and out, the adventures of Al-Rado Linguidi, who is actually the son, secret son of Gusto, the man who died and it matched his entire restaurant in disarray. Oh my God. No one's going to hurt. you, Ratatoui can't hurt you, Mike. Leanna, I've been hurt in so many ways.
Starting point is 01:16:43 Charming. Partially by the film Ratatouille. Like, okay, who has more trauma? Charlie about Maria's vote or Mike about Ratatouet? Because I'm honestly... I think it's a toss up. I think it's a toss up. If anyone, if I was ever, you know, out on Survivor and somebody's like, my favorite movie is
Starting point is 01:16:59 Ratatooie, I would be like Charlie staring dead-eyed into the night. Yeah. That makes me off. Just put your little buff on, like... Oh, Mike. That shot, you're gonna go knock on their boat. Mike. Okay, so great. That was the first comment.
Starting point is 01:17:15 Mike, your second comment is Jonathan went from a jolly giant to an angry giant. But when was he angry? Well, I guess he was angry the next day, but like, it didn't even seem like he was pissed off. And more so, D was specifically saying, like, wow, you're taking this really well.
Starting point is 01:17:31 First off, I've forgotten that I guess this was the first time he's ever been blindsided in his survivor career. But if you recall, like, you know, back during four. It was all topsy-turvy, but he was always always in the majority, even when things split apart at the end. I like the ratatooie comment, so I feel like, I feel like that one's real. So I'm again, they say insanity is trying the same thing over and over again and hoping for different results. So I'm an insane man.
Starting point is 01:17:59 I'll truly prove it with this answer. I'm going to say it's half and half. You are correct. Yes. And the ratatooie comment is real. I'm actually happy that that one's real and I didn't. write that because I don't want to awaken your trauma. So I'm happy a casualty will get voted off the island.
Starting point is 01:18:15 Exactly. I just say, Leila, I may have to go back on the claims I did at the beginning of this podcast that are so inseparable. I'm out. No, just a few other few comments that I did see. Jonathan looks like Papa Jesus was one comment that kind of made me laugh. And then he is risen. So then the other one, he's Rizzo. He's Rizzo.
Starting point is 01:18:37 He was risen. He made that. No, it's him doing this. Oh, yeah. Someone better. I mean, he went to exile. Right. He came back.
Starting point is 01:18:53 I don't know when this is coming out, but it's not too late to make your Easter-based merchandise of his Rizzo, putting stigmata on his hands. Oh, that's great. Not to be too sacrilegious with this pivot, but the other comments, which, by the way, there were multiple comments and from different people, basically insinuating that they thought that coach was going to give Jonathan a blowjob
Starting point is 01:19:18 when he was counting his abs. And I was like, I'm sorry, what? It took me very much by surprise, didn't think that at all when I watched the episode. But, so if you don't know if that's the part of the casuals that you feel like you're assessing with or maybe. You know what's funny is what the actually. Actually, the question I get most from my friends who are casuals is like, do people hook up? And I'm like, well, okay. In the past, sure, we had, you know, we've had some famous relationships, but I was like,
Starting point is 01:19:51 you are, you have not showered, you have not brushed your teeth. You are starving. You also hate half of these people. Like, no. I was like, that's the furthest thing from anybody's mind. But that was like, by far the number one casual question was like, okay, wait. So like, people hook up, right? I'm like, no.
Starting point is 01:20:10 I mean, to be fair, if you go like a few miles due south or whatever, you could find that in Love Island. That's true. Maybe they're just complaining the two. They were like, you're just close, right? You guys, Fiji, the villa, it's the same. Basically the same. Okay. So, Sophie, let's go to you.
Starting point is 01:20:29 Here are your next two comments. First comment is, when Ozzy and Riz Clown get back next week, they're going to have a big surprise. Your second comment is Rizdork skates by again. Rizdork. Rizdork is so like I think your writing is little
Starting point is 01:20:55 better than that, Liana. So I feel like you would have come with something better. So I'm going to say that's the true. I'm going to go half and half. I'm going to say that's the true one. Okay, half and half. So you are correct. Rizdork is real. But so is Riz clown. Yeah, both of those are actually real comments about our Lord and Savior, R-I-Z-G-O-D, Riz God, baby.
Starting point is 01:21:18 But actually, let's stay on the Riz God train. Mike, your next two comments are very disappointed, Riz-Ass got missed the triple tribal. We've so far had Rattatoui, yes, dork, Riz-Clawn, Riz-A-S. Yes. And your final insult is interesting.
Starting point is 01:21:41 They really didn't show Ozzy and Rizbop much. Rizbop. Rizbop. Rizbop. Oh, actually, you know what? I like they're the vets because it's kind of like kids bop. Kisbop. I do feel like Rizbop sounds like someone who's into jazz, you know.
Starting point is 01:21:56 We take a little risbop. No, I don't know. You got to experience three boys on the bench. Like that feels like a little bit like Rizbop. That is Rizbop. That is Rizbop. So what we have? So can you read like obviously now.
Starting point is 01:22:07 I'm focused on Riz-Ass and Rizbop, which sounds like really bad off-brand Ninja Turtle's villains, but can you tell me the full of the full state? Yes, the context for both Riz-Ass and Rizbop are, very disappointed Riz-Ass got Miss the Triple Tribal, and interesting, they really didn't show Ozzy and Rizbop much. You had to have written Rizbop.
Starting point is 01:22:30 I wish, similarly, who coming up with Billy Idol that I had written Rizbop. They are both real. So there were four different comments calling him Riz clown, Rizdorke, Rizass, and Rizbop. I could not pass up the opportunity. Quick power ranking.
Starting point is 01:22:49 I don't want to pass up this opportunity either. So like, use again, like Sophie said, whatever criteria you want to here between Riz Clown, Riz Dork, Rizass, Riz Bop. Sounds like a new out without play out last. I think I go Rizbop number one. Riz app number two, it's just, it's asinine.
Starting point is 01:23:08 And then I think I go, Riz Dork, Riz Clown. That's exactly, that's exactly what I was thinking to. Yeah, that would be my ranking as well. Mike, do you deviate from this? I don't think so, because Rizbop is also so enigmatic.
Starting point is 01:23:20 Like, I want to, like, sit down and talk to Rizbop for a little longer. Like, I need to figure out why, where Rizbop, is it truly Kidsbop based? Or is it just,
Starting point is 01:23:31 did you smash your, you're on the keyboard, and these are the letters that came out. like I that's this is a nickname that truly intrigues me and perhaps inspires me. Riz ass is it's kind of fun. It was a weird, a weird thing that is maybe the most insulting out of them. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:48 Yeah. I like Riz Dork more than Rizcon because also like I feel like does anyone call each other dorks anymore? No, I feel like people call each other nerds, but I feel like dorks have gone the way of a lot of early 2000s jargon. I think my favorite thing about Rizbop is like what I imagine a lot of Gen Z slang is, I don't know if it's good or bad. And I feel like it could be
Starting point is 01:24:11 either. Right. Like depending on the context or like a couple words around it, it could be good or bad. And so like the kids know, I don't. And that's where the fun is. Yes. I have, hold on. So Puyah and I learned about something. It's from Italian brain rot. So I'm also very much out of it. There is an elephant that is like made of a cactus. its name is La Riele La Rilla and it is like we found a stuffed animal of it and we had no idea what it was.
Starting point is 01:24:44 So I do feel like this is in the same vein. Like Rizbop, like is Rizbop cool? Like is Rizbop the new brain rot? Like I don't know. Is it the cactus elephant equivalent? I just, I don't know. Now you're sort of underselling it here because Lerili Lurilla is not only an elephant
Starting point is 01:25:01 whose body is a cactus, but it also is sitting in a singular Birkenstock. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I don't. The shoe bandit took their other shoe.
Starting point is 01:25:16 It came back from the secret jail. Took its shoe. It all comes full circle. Okay. So moving. Oh, and actually one more just to talk about Rizzo. Rizzo is either like loved or hated by the. casuals and there was like no.
Starting point is 01:25:34 There's a lot of Rizzo talk. But there's a lot of Rizzo talk in general, but there was also a lot of positive Rizzo talk as well. Like I just want to add that. The Rizzo is not completely hated by the casuals. I feel like they're either super entertained by him or they just want him gone ASAP and don't understand why he's there and there is nothing in between. All right.
Starting point is 01:25:54 So our final question, Sophie, going to you. Here is your first comment. D's toe. Add it again. Or your second comment. Dang. Aubrey has some huge bunions. Can't believe I noticed that during the challenge.
Starting point is 01:26:17 Unless they're telling on themselves. So we're a lot of foot. Oh my God, a lot of foot talk. Yeah, I don't even think about the fact that Dee's toes would have been an easy slam dunk win for her. Right.
Starting point is 01:26:31 I feel like it's half and half. We just said two because now I'm like, are you playing me? I'm going to say the Aubrey one is real and the D's toes is fake. You nailed it. Absolutely nailed it. And you nailed which one was real and which one was fake. So we have a tie and I am not prepared for a tie. So here's what we're.
Starting point is 01:26:59 So here's what we're going to do instead. I am going to read for you a comment that has there are a lot. So actually, Mike, this goes back to your Rizbop point earlier, where they frequently type the wrong names of the wrong, the wrong. For example, they call Devin's Devin. I'd like to see Devin gone and I'm like, who's Devin? So here's what we're going to do. I'm going to read you a comment that has an incorrect.
Starting point is 01:27:29 correct name and you will buzz in. The first person to answer correctly wins. So let's say Mike buzzes in but gets it wrong. Sophie, you'll have an opportunity to answer. And I actually have a bunch of these. So if you took it the first one, we've got a few to go through.
Starting point is 01:27:43 Yes. So you get to pick your buzz in noise slash word slash sound. Okay. Sophie, what's your sound? I think I was going to go buzz. Okay. I'm going to go Rizbop. Rizbop.
Starting point is 01:27:54 Okay. Buzz and Brisbane savior. Yeah. Okay. So I'm going to read a comment. and then you are going to tell me who they're talking about. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:28:05 Izzy is going to be shocked. Buzz. Yes. Ozzy. Yes. That is correct. You brought me, Leanna,
Starting point is 01:28:15 I knew what you were doing. You made me think about Big Brother Izzy, which put me on Surrey, and my mind was dancing in that meadow that I completely forgot about Ozzy. Yes. There's actually a second part to this comment. Him and Rizzo are going to cut blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:28:27 also like that I, that was the context. I knew it was, it was Izzy. But yeah, we got Kobe for Colby. We got Jamila, Camilla, but spelled with a C. That was pretty close. So yeah, we got a, we got a few of those. But congratulations, Sophie. You have won.
Starting point is 01:28:47 Thank you so much. Thank you so much. It came through. Agile's affinity. Definitely put you on the right wavelength. Congratulations. You are the winner from this game. I am so honored.
Starting point is 01:28:57 finally casual fandom really pays off. Well, while your casual fandom paid off, we of course like to take the time at the end of every B&B to highlight some things that people should pay in the realm of charities or other important causes in the world. So Sophie, pay us some mind and talk about things that you think we should be able to dedicate our time and efforts to in this day and age.
Starting point is 01:29:23 Yes, I think in this day and age, it's a little bit of a hot, an issue, but I am very passionate about like accessible health care for women and people who identify as women. And so Planned Parenthood is a huge cause that's near and dear to my heart, just making sure that folks have access to all the different types of care that they need. And it's getting, you know, threatened and shut down in places, all. over the United States and childbirth can already be such a very scary and yeah like not great outcomes for like women of color. And so the more yeah, just the more resources we have going to making sure that everyone has access to the care that they need and the support that they need
Starting point is 01:30:19 is really important to me. So big, yeah, planned parenthood supporter. And that's where I'm a proud card carrier as all of the people who stopped me in the streets with the clipboards love to see. Well, I am a car carrier of the Sophie Sofegretti fan club, have been since coming up on like a... God, it's been a while. It's been a while, right?
Starting point is 01:30:42 We've been known each other for a couple of years at this point. We chatted all the way back out during Survivor 48. So I'm so happy that we got the chance to have you here on the B&B. This was an absolute delight. Any final thoughts you have? Anything we didn't talk about when it comes to you? this episode, the season at large that you want to mention before we've been to do here. I don't think so. I think we covered, we covered a lot.
Starting point is 01:31:05 Thank you so much for me. This has been, this was so fun. I'm loving being a, like a backseat driver now, just not playing, just commenting on shit. It's so nice to be on the sidelines, let me tell you. So yeah, thank you so much for having me. This has been a blast. Well, thank you for coming on. I want to echo the point that you made initially that like I do think, again, there have been a lot of criticisms of this episode in general, certainly from us a lot from the fans. But like, that final Colby scene did remind me about the power and allure that this season can have. And so I'm hopeful that like, if we're getting back to more of a regular scheme of things,
Starting point is 01:31:46 now that the twistiness is majorly out of the way, that does give me some hope that we're in for plenty of fun stuff in the episodes to come. But regardless, it was such a fun time to have you on. If you want people to follow anything that you're doing out there in the world, how can they do so? You can find me on Instagram at Sophie Sofie Sofreyi was an E, I should clarify. I was going to say. Yeah, Sophie, I.E. Sogretti, I'm not really doing anything of note except for just I'm wearing a lot of hats. It's starting the month of March and it's bleeding into April because not really on top of my game.
Starting point is 01:32:24 But that's really it. I and then I'm back to being just like a normal person and occasionally all, you know, attend a podcast or make a comment or two about an episode. But yeah, come find me on Instagram. That's really the only place where I put forth content into the world and it's not a lot. But I meant to ask about that. Like, do you own all of the caps that you bring on on a daily basis? I own all of the caps.
Starting point is 01:32:49 And I actually have more than 30. I was like, so I could, I could continue to. to go. Um, and part of this was I had downsized my baseball hat collection. And, but I was like, but I can't get it any smaller because I feel like I'm going to wear all of these hats. It's a little bit of challenge. Like, all right. Let's see. Let's do it. Put your money where your mouth is. Girl, wear all your hats. And so that's really what this is. Um, and also it's a great excuse to not wash your hair for almost a month, which let me tell you, I've got practice from survivors. I was like,
Starting point is 01:33:25 I can do this. Well, no cap. This was such a fun time talking about the merge episode. Of course, Leon and I are also wearing plenty of hats when it comes to podcasts we're doing here on the network. Check out the pal. Check out my Australian Survivor coverage, as well as my interviews with this week's three boots. You definitely want to because they were all really fun, provided some very fun insights, including Camilla getting approached by an alumni at the Ron Clark Academy,
Starting point is 01:33:52 saying that she ruined the season. That's so painful. Were you in attendance at the Ron Clark Academy? No, I was not able to attend. I had some work stuff. Traveled a lot during my season? Yeah. A little harder to pull that card when your manager's like, but it's over
Starting point is 01:34:08 for you. Yeah. No, it's another season that I'm not on. Can I get time off? I was like, but it's fun. Wow. Oh my God. Okay. So I got to listen and figure out who get that team. Exactly. Exactly. Well, we will be drinking it all in next week as we will get to still a pretty damn girthy 14 person merge. Yes, it wasn't 17, but we will get 14 people voting next week.
Starting point is 01:34:33 And hopefully some shenanigans are bound to ensue. You know what that happens? We won't be far behind here on the B&B. Of course, we've had any ideas for games or, you know, aforementioned shenanigans that you want us to engage. And please reach out to us, RHAP, BNB at gmail.com or tag us, use the hashtag RHAPBNB on social media. Special thanks to the entire team
Starting point is 01:34:55 behind the scenes at RHAP for putting all this together to package this podcast for your eyes and ears. And Will From America whose theme song is even more appetizing than a full platter
Starting point is 01:35:07 of mozzarella sticks from Applebee's. Leanna and I will be back next week covering episode seven, perhaps the true merge of Survivor 50. Until then, everybody, we'll check you out
Starting point is 01:35:19 at your next day.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.