RHAP: We Know Survivor - Survivor 50 B&B Premiere Recap w/ Aysha Welch

Episode Date: March 1, 2026

Survivor 50 B&B Premiere Recap w/ Aysha Welch With a new Survivor season upon us, it’s time for Mike Bloom and Liana Boraas to re-open the RHAP B&B! On the B&B, Mike and Liana are inspi...red by the lighter side of Survivor, featuring a series of segments and games based on what’s happening on Survivor that week.  This week, Mike and Liana are joined by Survivor 47 contestant Aysha Welch to give their thoughts on the Survivor 50 premiere! This week’s charity shoutout is the American Kidney Fund, which fights on all fronts for more than 35.5 million Americans living with kidney disease. Click here to make a one-time or monthly donation. If you have any suggestions for games or feedback for the B&B, feel free to reach out to us on social media or email rhapbnb@gmail.com. To pre-order Rob’s book, The Tribe and I Have Spoken, visit www.robhasabook.com Never miss a minute of RHAP’s extensive Survivor coverage! LISTEN: Subscribe to the Survivor podcast feed WATCH:  Watch and subscribe to the podcast on YouTube SUPPORT:  Become a RHAP Patron for bonus content, access to Facebook and Discord groups plus more great perks!

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Starting point is 00:00:59 H. Hi, everybody. And welcome to the RHAP B&B for the premiere of Survivor 50. My name is Mike Bloom back with another season. of the B&B for this milestone season. Rumors of our demise were greatly exaggerated. We just did do a preview podcast, folks,
Starting point is 00:01:25 because we wanted to save all of our talk for the main act proper. And it is here. Two years ago, Jeff Probst announced that Survivor 50 would be a returning player season. And after that, it has been, what, almost 700 days of foreplay. And now we have finally engaged
Starting point is 00:01:42 in the tantric act of love that is the Survivor 50 premiere, a three-hour jam session. And I'm happy to jam with these two people to get all of their thoughts on everything that happened. And it was a lot. Of course, someone I would not be able to do this podcast alongside whatsoever. We go along as well as coaching that chain that he randomly took with him from exile. Island, it's a boris.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Yeah. Wait, wait, wait. Okay, I'm so glad you brought that up. We have to talk about that. Let's put a pin in that because I was like, where did you get that chain? What's that chain for? Like, what is that part of the supplies? Did I just forget this? In all 50 years of Survivor, I didn't realize that they got a heavy ass chain as part of the supplies. But look, I have been thinking about Survivor 50 as you said, Mike, for so long. And it felt like, oh, wait, guys, it's actually happening. Like, wait, wait, wait, just because there was so much build up and so much buildup, but over such a prolonged period of time, somehow. it also snuck up on me at the same time, which was very bizarre. But I'm telling you that moment, it was the Aussie coach interaction. That moment I was so in, so in on 50, so ready for everything that this season holds. And I really can't wait to talk about their premiere and just experience what the heck this season has for us.
Starting point is 00:03:04 Well, let's talk with somebody who experienced what the heck a season brought for them, considering that it was only, you know, what, a year and a half ago that we saw her out there engaging in her own rather acrimonious fight for supplies at Asia Welch. Welcome back to the B&B. Hello. Thank you so much. I'm so excited to be here as the only woman to have fought for supplies, which I didn't even... That's nice. I was, I was reflecting on that in chat BCC this week.
Starting point is 00:03:38 I was like, oh my gosh, wait a minute. because everyone's like, oh, I hate how this is like such a man-dominated challenge. Like, it's so physical. And I was like, wait a second. Maybe I had no business raising my hand. I just, you know, yeah, but I can't wait to talk about it all. I was so excited, like you, Leona, like this was because it was teased for so long, I mean, it had been announced right before we went out to play.
Starting point is 00:04:09 And so it was one of the. things where I'm like, oh, everybody's going to be thinking about how to, you know, escalate their gameplay so they can get on 50. And I was like, I'm not going to be thinking about 50. I'm thinking about 47, you know. So it's so it was actually surreal when all the preseason press just kept dropping and dropping. I'm like, wait, are we supposed to be seeing these things right now? Like, this is so weird. It's here. It's here. It's here. Oh, my gosh. So here we are standing on the shores alongside this, this massive chorus line of contestants, two dozen of them that we are already down to by the end of
Starting point is 00:04:46 this three hour episode. So again, it is a near impossible job to give your general thoughts on essentially the length of like the shortest Marvel movie ever in terms of airtime. But Leanna, what are your takeaways now from the first episode of Survivor 50, especially compared to your expectations, either based on, you know, the voluminous amounts of preseason content or otherwise? Yeah, I think obviously expectations going into it. You can't help but be excited, right? You've got returning players.
Starting point is 00:05:16 It's season 50. Like, come on, get hype, right? No matter what you feel. Like, there's going to be some excitement there. I'll tell you my opinions watching it were either, it was almost, it was, it was binary. It was like, this is the best thing I've ever seen on television ever. Or stop messing with the game. I just want to see them hang out.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Like, those were the two opinions I had. The Rizzo coach moment. Oh my God, iconic. Maybe the best interaction I've ever seen, or coach, sorry, Colby, maybe the best interaction I've ever seen on television. So great. And then we jumped to like some bullshit with Jeff being like, oh, in the hands of the fans. And the fans voted for you to have rice.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Oh, but actually they want you to earn your rice. Okay, but we didn't vote for that. Like, I felt like I was being gaslit. I was like either the bullshit of New Era Survivor, but the glorious joy of watching icons play the game and interact in the most fun fan fiction I've ever seen. Like overall, so enjoyable, but definitely had those moments of like, shut up, Jeff. What about you, Asia? Yeah, it was, you know, everyone was so critical of this cast, the moment it was announced,
Starting point is 00:06:27 and I think that would have happened no matter who they picked. I think they could have picked the, like, if, you know, they could have taken an audience poll and chosen the top 24 and people still would have come. complained, right? Yes, I can acknowledge firsthand as someone who ran an audience poll in which they voted on a cast. That is often the result. Yeah, exactly. So you're never going to please everybody. So they definitely got a lot of people that, like so many of these people, I want to say a majority, if not all, I'm excited to just see interact with other people. Like I, even people that it's just like, oh, like, okay, their game, like their game the first time may have not been as
Starting point is 00:07:08 exciting. But boy, am I excited to see them next to the person that they are next to on this tribe. Like it was just, it almost, like, even seeing like D talk to Tiffany and Camilla. And I was like, you, what? Like, it doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Like, it really, it really was the whole three hours was something to wrap your mind around. Uh, seeing like Genevieve cry about Kyle, you know, leaving. I'm just like, boy how has evolved already, right?
Starting point is 00:07:42 Just from like 47 to 50. And so it's just like it I loved seeing this mix of people. And I do truly think and I know they spent so much time putting together this cast. I think even if they have done a season where they are like, we're going to bring the least memorable people from so many like everyone is going to be the least memorable person. from their specific season. I think Survivor fans would still enjoy watching this, this combination of people because, okay,
Starting point is 00:08:18 it's a new situation. They're putting to a new environment and it's like, hey, I'm familiar with this person. I think I saw, I don't know if it was a tweet or something. Someone was like, boy, am I glad that I already know everybody's names. Like, there's something about familiarity. And like, when you're already introduced to someone, and you put them in a different environment.
Starting point is 00:08:38 I think that's why, like, the traders thrive so much. It's just like, I have that foundation with this person, no matter how small that it's like, yeah, I'm excited to see them again. Yeah. You know, yeah. Go ahead. Oh, I was going to say that that's actually such a great point. And I think that the lack of return.
Starting point is 00:08:54 I'm not, I'm not saying that I think they should have on more returning player seasons in the 50s, uh, or in the 40s, I guess from 41 into into 49. But there is some sense of like home, like, comfort in having returning players. And I know obviously you've got people like Colby,
Starting point is 00:09:12 like Jenna, like Ozzie, like Surrey, people we've seen so many times play this game. But even, yeah, even the new era of people, you're like, okay, like I know what we're doing here. And maybe that's part of the reason why Mike and I also didn't do a preseason podcast. It was like, yeah, we know him already. Like, we'll just see what happens.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Like, let's just throw them all in there together. So I think that there's a sense of comfort to that. And I really like that point, Asia. Yeah, I mean, this premiere was essentially. opening up the Survivor Toy Box where maybe there's some of these action figures that your parents had that they passed down to you but they still are surprisingly in good condition
Starting point is 00:09:48 up against, you know, the things that you got last Christmas and like now you're actually having them interact with each other and there is a weird surreality to it. You know, we talked all the time myself included about like, oh, well, Rizzo is the same age as Colby was when we started Australia not realizing how essentially Colby would go full RuPaul and be like, I'm your daddy now. Come on,
Starting point is 00:10:08 Rizzo. I'm a little older than 47, but I can still, you know, hang with the, with the best of them. So even just like that interaction. And then on top of that,
Starting point is 00:10:17 like, looking at the dichotomy of Ozzy squashing one beef with Sari and creating even more beep with the other one in coach. Like, I think it really paid off incredibly well to see
Starting point is 00:10:29 old dynamics and characters resurrected paired with new dynamics, even like a Rick Devin's Christian combo. Again, both of them have played a little while back, but like they never interacted with each other because they haven't returned yet. I mean, I have seen this episode a fair number of times I lived through this episode. And there's still little moments on the umpteen time I watch that I am obsessed with. Like for example, when it's the beginning of the marooning challenge and Savannah is digging under the log, Rick Devin says something like,
Starting point is 00:11:00 news update, you're killing it. And it's like, is that his low key way of being like, I know who you are? you're a news anchor from Georgia. Like they're all or even like, I don't think, I think I was so worried about the ominous shot of Jeff on the boat that I didn't even clock the entire conversation Chew and Angelina were having about blackjack. Yes. For Angelina's like, oh, it's a team sport. And Q's like, the only team is me against the casino.
Starting point is 00:11:23 I'm not playing with you. If you can't play black, if you don't play blackjack that way, you got to go. So I. But he made such a valid point, I will have to say. Yeah. I also love that as well about him being like, technically speaking, I mean, again, it was very surprisingly math-oriented for someone like Q,
Starting point is 00:11:39 who I think is a very gut-oriented person of like, there's only one card in the deck on a 16 that you get 21 with. So, again, it's just all these little micro and macro interactions that just kept my heart so warm. I know there was a lot of talk about, okay, this is a celebration of 50 seasons, but I had no idea how much the editing would be a celebration. I don't know if the flashbacks are going to continue past this first episode, but like getting freaking shots of BB Anderson,
Starting point is 00:12:05 getting voted out. Umajan Morway is the one because he was the one that also made fire with glasses back on Jenna's original tribe. I mean, even just that five minute opening sequence. Like, it's just such an incredible reminder of what this show is able to give it to us. And I would wager that the first two and a half hours of the Survivor 50 premiere is maybe one of the best episodes I've experienced in quite some time.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Like, I feel like it delivered on every front I expected and exceeded those expectations. that last half hour might miss me a little bit. I know that obviously the three hour episode, you're sort of checking your watch being like, all right, where are we going from here? And so it's not even the
Starting point is 00:12:47 the wamp-wamp of the Kyle Medevac. It was then doing the Billy Elish Boomerang Idol and the journey. To your point, Leanna, was maybe a little bit of the bucket of cold water that was like, oh yeah, they want to throw in as much stuff as possible. It's dynamic advantages. Make of that
Starting point is 00:13:04 what you will. Uh-huh. I have a confession to make. Puyah was shocked when I said this. I didn't realize that the Billy Elish boomerang idol was actually real. I thought it was just a thing Rick Devin's came up with or whomever said in the promo. And I was like, oh, that's so funny. That's so creative.
Starting point is 00:13:24 And then it was actually the Billy Elish Boomerang Idol. And I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What a second? I didn't think it was an actual thing. So that was also, that was a big gag for me. Apparently I'm the only person on the planet that missed. It was like, no, no, no, no. To be fair, I had a good amount of people actually messaging me after that initial
Starting point is 00:13:45 teaser being like, Rick Devons could have made this up. But it's like, why would CBS actively publicize Billy Eilish's involvement when she actually is not involved at all? I don't know. Maybe they wanted her attention or something like that, right? They were like, like the whole Taylor Swift thing with Charlie. It's like, yeah, I let him mention Taylor Swift. Maybe she'll watch the episode and like talk about it.
Starting point is 00:14:03 It's like, ah, Billy Ilish. Maybe she'll watch the episode become a big Rick Devons fan and then go from there. I don't know, man. I will say, I am, so, you know, obviously with that, with the promo for 50 and seeing,
Starting point is 00:14:17 oh, Billy Elish and every other name they named, Mr. Beast. I will say, now that that has been introduced, we have seen the Billy Elish boomerang idol. I am glad that it wasn't like, Oh, Genevieve finds it. And then here comes Billy Elish on the screen. Hi, I'm Billy Elish.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Like, it did, hey, dropped her name and we kept it pushing. Like, it wasn't a huge focus. What did you think about the personalized letter, Asia? Yes, very personalized. Hey, it's really Irish. Hey, it's me. Hey, girl. Hey, girl.
Starting point is 00:14:57 You go ahead. Billy Eilish here. I'm sure she wrote that. It was like a personalized letter as well. yes i'm sure she personally wrote that and then mailed it to fiji so that they could use it um but i will say that's the part of it that i was the most pleased about that they didn't like milk billy islea as a person being a fan of the show on the show to take away from the moment it was like okay this is about the advantage and let's talk about the mechanics of that yes uh though i do think there's a
Starting point is 00:15:33 chance based on the fact that Rick Devon said Billy Ilish boomerang idol there was a little bit of like every because I had um I was actually at SCAT TV Fest when Jeff said that it would be found in the premiere episode and so everyone assumed it was going to be Rick so the fact that it hasn't makes me think there's a chance there's a Billy Ilish boomerang idol at every cap so we still might have that moment maybe they're waiting for all three for Billy Elish to then appear and be like this is me now I'm in that's what it takes to unlock Billy Elish yeah she's like Beatles juice. You had to spearname three times. Oh my gosh. No, give me wrong. I love Billy
Starting point is 00:16:09 Irish's music. But I just, you know, I just never thought Survivor Billy Irish would go hand in hand. No, but I think, so the, so that part for me personally, I was like, okay, fine. But I do, yeah, I, we'll see if we can unlock her at a later stage. But for me to go back to something Mike had mentioned earlier, which was a lot of the small moments. Like literally in my notes, I created a small quotes slash moments section of all of the things that I thought were just, just really made me laugh. So for example, Christian in the same, that same challenge with the digging, he goes, you're a regular excavator. Yeah. Okay. Rizzo at the marooning, chant chanting, go Kyle, go Colby, go go Colby. I don't know why. I really like
Starting point is 00:16:55 that. I got to understand why Colby's like, this guy annoys the shit out of me. Stop chending my name. I'm I got blocked in, brother. Mike White saying, don't get on daddy's nerves. Amazing. iconic. Charlie about him being like, I guess he has abs now. Christian saying he's been hitting the White Lotus gym.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Like there were just so many of these little teeny tiny moments that I was just, it was just, I don't know. It was just so warms my heart and beautiful and iconic. People in their own right as well as them interacting. Like I think that that was where the majority of my joy came from and watching this episode. Yeah. I mean, it's the benefit of it being a returning player season is that you would hope the vast majority of the people who are getting brought back are those who know how to create good sound bites and good entertainment.
Starting point is 00:17:39 And again, I think even on paper, those that you feel like we're doing it for the umpteen time. No, they were almost bringing it more. We were all introduced to Oscar over the course of this episode. It's something that people were saying may have been one of Ozzie's best episodes across his entire survivor career. I'm so here for Oscar. I'm so here for Oscar. I feel like we need to call him Oscar now. Throughout the rest of the season,
Starting point is 00:18:01 he is Oscar now. Yeah, I will say, before we move on too far from the opening sequence, I did wait to watch it until the actual premiere because it was being promoted so much. I was like,
Starting point is 00:18:13 I want the pure feeling I feel when I'm starting the finale or premiere. And I did get chills, but the only critique, you know, is, for one, we only got Genevieve for like 0.5. seconds. But two, when they were showing the new era winners, they just skipped Rachel Lamont. I was like, oh my gosh. So that that made me angry in the moment. But the 47 ratio.
Starting point is 00:18:41 That aside, I did enjoy the five minutes. Yeah. I mean, that was such a fantastic like sizzle reel for the show. Though again, with the stuff I had I got to experience out there that tragically did not make the cut. I'm like, this is beautiful. Do we need to like have this much time dedicated to this and like cut out the Angelina Tarp negotiation that happened after the challenge? But listen, it was a tough thing you do for essentially what was like kind of an episode and a half basically with including that that Kyle Medevac. But Leanna, what do you want to talk about here?
Starting point is 00:19:11 Like what is like the main, do you want to talk about the vote? Are there other of these quote unquote small moments that you would prefer to sort of fixate on in a more mass quantity? I think we should talk. Let's go through each of the tribes as they stand. So we can start, I would say, let's kick things off probably with, is it Cilia, Cia, Cillia? Cilla. Cilla.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Okay, great. Cilia, like the name for some, for those little like, boldy things. You know, there are these little protrusion-y things from cells that, like, they have a lot of different functions. But anyway, that, that's what I, when I see that, that's what I read. Anyway, so I think we need to start with them. I think we had a lot of really interesting tribe dynamics in terms of, of, you know, obviously, Jenna coming out the gate, playing super hard, maybe it being her, maybe it being Christian, who threw Surrey's name out first,
Starting point is 00:20:02 a little bit unclear. But to me, I see, like, some clear pairs and groups forming, right? You've got the Aussie-Soree duo as a little group. And then you kind of have, like, the three nerds, right? You got the Devons Christian, I'm sorry, that's I'm going to call him. And Emily of it all, like, those two kind of seem, or those two, like, groupings of people seem to be some sort of, like core nucleating factors.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Joe, I'm like, where is Joe? Like, where is Joe falling? Obviously, Christian was like, I want a consensus. I just want a consensus. I think Joe, Joe could have blended in with the three nerves, though, because like, I got wedged on public television. Now I know what you feel like. I got shoved in a locker on public television.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Yeah. So, yeah, so they're really fascinating to me because I do think there's a universe they end up going back to tribal council. You know, I don't know how quickly that would be. But I can see they've really been a focus of this episode, I think specifically because of the Jenna Boot, but also I think we are going to see them more on our television screens in the next few episodes. Yeah, it feels like Joe is just represents the provider of this tribe.
Starting point is 00:21:08 And yeah, the new era, like people don't focus on that as much. You know, there's not as much an emphasis on we need someone who can care for us. But it's like, you have to keep a Joe when there's a Jonathan on another tribe. and a Colby on another tribe who also has what Q. So it's like, I think Joe almost doesn't need anyone right now because it's like in what world is he an option outside of the recency bias of just being on 48, right? And then just seeing that. But I think as long, like, yes, you do have an Ozzy,
Starting point is 00:21:45 but they are also just thinking, okay, let's not lose again. Well, and also they were nearly going to get rid of Ozzie too. Right. Exactly. I don't know. There's also a secret scene out there that came out after the premiere where it's, it's Cila the next day. And Emily's like, oh, man, I really wish I got rid of Ozzy. So, like, it wasn't even just something that they kind of like used as filler material to be like, oh, maybe it's not Surrey or Jenna. Like, it did seem like had they had more time, had the numbers come together. Jenner was certainly on board to get out Ozzie. Like, as much as we love Oscar,
Starting point is 00:22:17 he could have been the first boot. Oscar could have picked up the Razzie here in terms of worst performance in Survivor history. I mean, you have Oscar, you had Jenna, you had Surrey as options to go home, right? Like, Mm-hmm. That's tough. What did Savannah do
Starting point is 00:22:34 in these first three days to establish herself as like a non-threat? Or as a great ally. I forgot. She was on that tribe. I totally forgot about her. Which is like nuts. Oh my God. But Asia, that's such a good point. Her reveal.
Starting point is 00:22:51 also being like, do you guys, do you guys want to guess why I did? Do you guys want to guess how good I did? This tribe is, it's so interesting because this tribe is like some of the biggest talkers that we've experienced in recent memory of Survivor. This is one of the most awkward silence coded tribes ever between that moment, between like, you know, tribal council when like Jenna gets up to go and they're all just like, I guess we'll stand. Are we all standing?
Starting point is 00:23:12 That was so awkward. But it wasn't like standing like a standing ovation of like, thank you Jenna for being the first food. It was just, uh, yeah, we're all just going to stay. here. I don't know what to do with my hands. Ozzy does go to hug her and she denied her and I heard him a little bit go like Jenna. Sorry. I guess that thing where you're like, I should say something
Starting point is 00:23:35 but if I say it too loud, it's going to draw attention to the fact that you snubbed me. Yes. Were you surprised at all, either one of you to see Jenna go over, Saree, especially considering the monkey's fist of it all.
Starting point is 00:23:53 didn't realize that was what that was called. So we learned a new name for a ball of yarn. But what was the old name? Really? What? Like what were you referring to it as previously? Nothing. The ball with the string?
Starting point is 00:24:08 I don't know. I didn't have it doing it into the Y shape thing. Yeah. They throw the thing into the thing. It's like a survivor challenge. It's fine. I mean, no. So frankly, I wasn't surprised simply based on the fact that's so early on
Starting point is 00:24:22 in the episode when Jenna is bringing up the idea of targeting Surrey, we had so many people clearly not going for it, right? Devons immediately goes and rats it out to Surrey. Devons is tight with Christian and Emily. So I kind of figured that there wasn't going to be that momentum there. So I wasn't all that surprised, but there was a little bit of heart palpitations because Soraya Tribal looked nervous.
Starting point is 00:24:48 And I have not seen her really ever looked that nervous. So I did think that I was getting fooled and maybe I was going to lose baby girl, Saree, oh, that would have been so tough. And I wonder, like, I wonder if, no, I think Jenna knew targeting Sarii is a big swing. And I really wonder if there was any moment that Jenna was like, okay, well, maybe I don't try to target Sari. Maybe I try to target someone else, which is really, really makes me think of the Savannah of it all, because in what world is the most recent known winner just one two weeks ago coming in
Starting point is 00:25:22 their tribe is going to tribal council and like she wasn't being considered right so i think it's very interesting that you know that that that was a thing that it wasn't even based on that and so maybe they were truly thinking like okay maybe let's not lose again or oh you know the reason voting jena out was like saying that she was quote unquote overplaying but i do think it has a lot to do with the relationships in and out of the game that sari has already established like everyone's coming into this with like at least somewhat of an adoration for seri or or a certain level of respect like this is what her fifth time playing US Survivor so I think they're you know especially what I don't know yeah because
Starting point is 00:26:10 yeah do we know the real reason that they decided like let's not split up Surrey and Ozzie I mean I think that Christian expressed it well in the episode where he felt like, Ceree was someone who's a little more like open and honest, at least in this moment. And that's the type of person that I know he preferred to work with. Obviously, when I talk with him,
Starting point is 00:26:31 he wanted to like approach Ceree day one on the beach and is like, I want to take you to the final three because I know how much it would mean to you to actually win. So like I was not surprised that he in particular was pushing more so for a Jenna. I mean, I think it comes down to the fact that like, Jenna is such an unknown factor here, which is weird because we saw her play back at the turn of
Starting point is 00:26:52 the millennium. But she had the biggest, you know, skewed friend perspective across the entire cat when I was doing that friend or foe. And I think it's because people were talking about this sort of facsimile of what they think Jenna Lewis is, right? I'm like, season one, she's going to be old school. She's going to want to sit around and fish and talk about her kids. So I could just use her as a loyal number no matter what. And then when she turned out not to be that. I think that discrepancy can probably do something to your psychology of like
Starting point is 00:27:28 oh, you are not what I thought you were and that is scary. And so I think that actually the ironic part is that that fear of the unknown outweighed the other fear of the unknown, which is the person who you never saw play before who comes in and says
Starting point is 00:27:44 I won my season. I know is that not so much scarier though. Right? Like I don't know. And that's the thing. Like, okay, so you've got Kyle, right? And Kyle wasn't obviously a very good position on his tribe, at least from what we saw before he got many back.
Starting point is 00:28:00 But like, at least with Kyle or Joe or, you know, the people that just played and just did a great job making it far into the game, at least you know what you're getting. Whereas with Savannah, you genuinely have legitimate, no game footage, nothing. You have nothing on her. So I guess, yeah, just the absence of. information is less threatening than conflicting
Starting point is 00:28:25 opinions on somebody or or guess you know having the wool the rug pulled out underneath you from like oh my god I thought you were going to behave this way and you didn't yeah maybe that is like yeah be it threat than than just blankness yeah I mean I think if you're looking at these two who definitely seem to be at least from what Jenna expressed to me a bit
Starting point is 00:28:41 on the outs right that it did seem like serian Ozzie and the three nerds as Leanna put it then it's like okay well Jenna is the one who is much more explicitly apparently being upfront about like getting the game moving. That is more threatening to somebody than
Starting point is 00:28:57 yes, Savannah won and maybe you could work yourself into a mindset where you're like oh, then that means that she's actually a better player than Jenna so we should take her out. But I think it could be such low hanging through, especially when you're trying to build a consensus like Christian to use the rationale of Jenna's gaming too hard, too fast.
Starting point is 00:29:13 If we keep her in, we're all going to be playing Jenna's game. Yeah. And maybe it even could have been that like I don't want to discredit Savannah's game. Like maybe she was able to get in and good enough socially to the point where they didn't see that as an immediate threat.
Starting point is 00:29:29 And maybe she also sold it as, hey, I won, but the check hasn't even hit, you know, my bank account yet. You know, like, I'm still tired. I was just out here. I'm still getting the sand out of my toenails. So. Yeah, or maybe it's a reflection on how people
Starting point is 00:29:48 aren't threatened by new era winners. like is that it? They're like, yeah, she won, but it was 26 days. She's 26 days. Like she barely played at this point. Now, Jenna, Jenna's played like 72 days of Survivor. Exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Well, let's go from Sandy Toes to Toe Rings. Let's talk about Kalo here. Because I think we want to finish on Vatu, because in my opinion, that probably is like the most interesting tribe and obviously ends the episode. So this is probably the tribe that maybe is on the polar opposite. And there's still some fun personalities. And we definitely see a lot of dynamics being set up here.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Essentially, it's like coach Chrissy and Jonathan on the anti-D brigade. Then you have this sort of like new era power puff girls of D, Tiff, and Camilla. Charlie, surprise, surprise is now in the middle, which I think is something we're going to get soon. But, Leanna, what did you make of going green with this tribe? Yeah, I mean, there were certainly some strategy moments, as you mentioned, where we started to see some groups forming. but it definitely this tribe felt
Starting point is 00:30:50 I'm not going to say like an afterthought but just because we spent so much time and energy with the other two it was a little bit like okay we're kind of touching on the elements but it's more from a I don't know it felt almost like more from a comedic relief perspective like maybe it's just because they have coach and Mike White so of course you're going to get
Starting point is 00:31:06 some like fun cookie moments with them but it was like the whole segment about Jonathan being a giant hoa FIFO Fum or whatever Jonathan was doing yes It did. I just feel the way you sort of like non-chalotly, so, you know, FIFA fun. You know, FIFA, for fun, whatever, like a giant does. So, you know, is that. We get the Mike White has a six-pack now. We get the coach honorable story moment, right? Him with, again, with the chain. Where did he get the chain? No idea.
Starting point is 00:31:36 So there were just a lot of moments like that. Even Chrissy targeting D and like bringing up that whole concept. But Chrissy is like cackling the entire time. I don't know why. Every shot of Chrissy is her just maniacally laughing. for some of your teeth. Yeah, exactly. So I don't know. It was just tough to take them seriously. So like even though they're having serious strategy talk, I'm like, it's just, hello. Speaking of that teeth brushing, that was the biggest.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Like, I was like, oh, like, maybe there's something to it. But you see like a scalyon? Like, that was a massive thing. How did you get that? Exactly. I feel like that's getting your teeth and your gums the same time. You need a water pick, but you've cut. that giant plan on the island.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Exactly. But one thing I was wondering with this tribe that we really didn't get to a reaction to was what happened when Mike White came back to camp with nothing. Like, oh yeah, we went and they decided two people and then I just got to come home.
Starting point is 00:32:37 I would have questioned that. Because when does that happen before? Yeah, I do wonder, like, did they drive Mike around the island a few times to like pad out that it seemed like it was a same amount of time? Because I guess you would try to time it out, right? Like if he was only gone half an hour, then, okay, yeah, I'm more liable
Starting point is 00:32:52 to believe you. Otherwise, it'd be a lightning fast journey. Right. And I mean, you can't tell time out there. It's impossible. You know, it's like he could have been gone for 15 minutes and they could have thought it was an hour. So, I don't know. I really, I really want to see that reaction.
Starting point is 00:33:07 But it did pay off with, you know, the coach moment of finding out Ozzy's perception of the fight for supplies. Can someone who's more talented than me. Edit coach in that scene and play the sound of silence over it as he just
Starting point is 00:33:23 has this thousand yard stare off into the distance. I will say Leanna, as you mentioned before, I wouldn't say this is like fully the vibe tribe. It reminds me a little bit of again Charlie's original tribe on 46 to the point where this is a very big dancey
Starting point is 00:33:39 tribe. Like when coach came back and they were all chanting coach. Coach is like, or I don't know if you noticed this. again, it's all about the small moments. Did you see when Mike White volunteers for the journey, what he does before he gets on the boat? No.
Starting point is 00:33:56 He's standing on the beach and he's saying goodbye to them by, let me see if I can like mime it out here. Okay. All right. So Mike is standing up. Oh, what is? Okay, I don't even, I was going to try to describe that for the audio listeners.
Starting point is 00:34:11 I don't know what that was. I don't either. He was like sawing the air saying goodbye, while also dancing backwards and high stepping. It's so weird. Amazing. See? Amazing.
Starting point is 00:34:23 That's so good. But yeah, exactly. So, okay, yeah, maybe not vibes tribe, but certainly like goofy,
Starting point is 00:34:31 goofy, goofy fun moment tribe, I guess, maybe. Yeah. The moment, though, to have Mike go all the way on the boat there
Starting point is 00:34:39 and then just be like, sake. I thought, I thought it was going to be like, oh, so, okay, Savannah wins between,
Starting point is 00:34:46 her and Colby and then the envelope says like now you have the option to go compete against Mike White and you know I thought like oh they took him to somewhere else and like I was like no okay well because he just went home or for him to get something right of like oh by sitting out actually you get that that's the thing is I feel like at that point like they're opposite this point with Ozzie as well like there are all these little surprises like these boatmen are really earning their time and a half by also schlepping all these objects and notes and everything. So I thought there would have been a twist of like,
Starting point is 00:35:20 okay, Mike, you basically sat out of the journey challenge. And so here's something that you have an opportunity to do by yourself. Like here's a secret mission for you to get an advantage because they're so dynamic. But it was so lame. We have seen this a couple times. If I remember from the new era,
Starting point is 00:35:37 like this makes no sense. Why are you bringing three people there? I mean, I guess the thing that they got the benefit of was this coach story beat? like Mike essentially was the conduit here, was the messenger. And Savannah has said that like they had a much larger conversation where they were doing a lot of debriefing about their respective tribes.
Starting point is 00:35:55 But outside of that, I mean, I know Mike White loves to, you know, Kiki with people, but like he wanted to play. That's why he volunteered for the journey. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:04 Yeah. Yeah. That, that, that seemed very, um, just like anticlimatting to just be like, oh my gosh,
Starting point is 00:36:12 I'm about to go get something. I'm going to risk something. And then, oh, no, you, you didn't draw the right thing. So you're actually going to go back home. But I will say,
Starting point is 00:36:20 speaking of the boatman, I do always love seeing the guy who drove my boat to, when I came back from like the fight for supplies, I'm like, that's my guy. I know that guy. Can I ask Asia like, can you talk with him at all?
Starting point is 00:36:34 Or are you on ice that entire time until you get back to the beach? We, I mean, we chat it. I don't know if I was supposed to. There's like, because, honestly there's no like I'm not you know around anybody there's no camera like there's no camera on the boat with me so there I don't think there's any danger unless I was sitting up there asking him like tell me more what do you know was to come you know but I was just like oh how do you like being in Fiji it was really like small talk yeah not not be like hey can you sneak me a protein bar right bribe him yeah
Starting point is 00:37:15 All right. Well, let's talk about VATU here. Let's finish things off because maybe we're not talking blackjack, but what a group of cards we have in our head with these people. I know there was a lot of talk about just like the eclectic group of personalities. But I think it was even superseded when you watch them do a fashion show together. Yeah. Yeah, that was out of the blue. Again, like, this is what I'm talking about when I'm like, I just want to watch these people interact. Right. And, The blackjack moment came honestly because Kyle was getting pulled. Like that was like the, you know, the conversation was before Jeff shows up to go get. And I'm like, like it's unfortunate that, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:56 would that moment have been included if Kyle hadn't been medevac? My thought is probably not. So like that's a little bit unfortunate that we got like such a fun moment as a consequence of Kyle being medivacked. But it's like that those, that's exactly what I'm looking for. Like for example, the Aubrey Genevieve interaction.
Starting point is 00:38:12 What the heck? Like, what? What is that? So fascinating. From Genevieve being like, yeah, but I would want to work with other threats.
Starting point is 00:38:22 We could kill it together. And Aubrey being like, I don't trust you. Girl, she's spending me all a branch. Like literally, oh, so should I try?
Starting point is 00:38:32 Like, I don't, I feel like this is weird. That's because you're making this weird. Like, you brought this energy. Like, Genevieve seemed,
Starting point is 00:38:41 I mean, obviously very biased here. But Genevieve, seemed very open to at least having a conversation. Aubrey's like, I don't know about you. Well, it's that preconceived notion. Aubrey told me that Genevieve gave her gone girl vibes.
Starting point is 00:38:58 And so I don't think she wanted to become her next victim. She's like, I know your murderous ways. I'm staying far away from you. I'm reporting any suspicious activity immediately if I see it. But it's so interesting because it's like, Okay, they didn't show Aubrey getting buddy buddy with a bunch of other people on this tribe. So I'm like wondering what is her game plan at this point
Starting point is 00:39:24 if she's like giving this this hard no to Genevieve. Like has she started to form bonds with other people? Because that was just weird to like this early in the game to just not be open to conversation. Yeah, yeah, exactly. What do you think she's doing at this moment? Or maybe she's being. too open to conversation.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Maybe this is something where Aubrey's like, I know I am perceived as like this big strategic player. So let me try to be honest to not feel like I am duping anybody. But honesty can really cut both ways here. And Aubrey seems like she almost like severed a limb in this conversation with Genevieve. Yeah. You made, you single-handedly made this interaction weird.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Yeah. Yes. And then that was like all we saw. her the entire episode. Like, okay. That or the horrible moment where she was having PTSD standing out that beats be like, why must all these meds in my life get medevac from Survivor?
Starting point is 00:40:26 Yeah. Oh, poor thing. Yeah. It's a, you know, I mean, just to briefly talk about the medevac, like obviously you never want to see anybody get pulled. I think also Kyle was someone and in my preseason prediction. I talked about this, but like Kyle was someone who I thought was going to be a target because he was the last
Starting point is 00:40:43 winner that people saw. but he was in such a good spot. You would Colby wanting to work with him. Steph, Genevieve, that sort of little core four, bring Q in there as well. Like that's a really solid group of players and it looked like he was positioned really well. So, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:57 it's unfortunate from multiple perspectives to, one, just have him pulled in general, but also to see him, somebody subvert at least my preseason expectations for him. And I wanted to know where that line and that story was going to go. Unfortunately, I'm going to go to the emergency room.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Apparently, yeah. No, I didn't expect. I was so pleasantly surprised how good of a position Kyle was able to put himself in. And I think you can credit that to two things. One being that 48, I mean, it was a year prior to filming 50 and he was used to the fast gameplay. Like you're not going to, if they had done 50 all OGs, it wouldn't have escalated the way it did with establishing. We got our two here, three here, four people, four here. I think that the speed of the 26 day game, it really catches up to you, especially if you're not going to tribal.
Starting point is 00:41:52 And so the fact that Kyle was being more proactive and like making connections, I think like Colby respected that, Q respected that, Genevieve respected that. And so I was so impressed with how quickly he was able to just kind of like, I'm not going to sit back. Like I'm not going and just be like, oh, because I won. I'm just going to let people come to me or I'm not going to I want to like downplay my threat level. It's like, no, I want to get my people together that I trust so that we can start, have that foundation and move from there. And I think the second thing can credit that too is just who Kyle is the person. Like one of the most genuine people I have ever met. He is so sweet, so kind.
Starting point is 00:42:33 When he's talking to you, there's no one else in the room. Like you truly feel like, wow, he is really into this conversation. Like I need to be more tapped in. I need more eye contact. And I want to add a third thing, his smile. Like I'm telling you that like a million dollar smile. When someone smiles at you like that, you're just like, yes, I will be in an alliance with you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:42:59 So it was such a weird journey for me because obviously I was there when I saw the injury. Now, by the time I left, I didn't know about the utilities. We actually left on day four. I didn't have the highest prospects, even if I thought it wasn't. the ankle. It was, you know, so extreme to the point that Q carried him out of the challenge on his back. Like, that's how immobile
Starting point is 00:43:19 Kyle was. So I was like, okay, even if he's not, I mean, he brings up James Clement in a lot of our exit press. And like, I thought it might be a similar situation to that where like, as beloved as he could be, this could just be an untenable situation. And then my mind went to, okay, if for some reason you had to pick out of the Survivor 50
Starting point is 00:43:36 cast, like, who gets medevac from this? I guess the guy that just won, like, you know, it would be worse if it was someone that we've been waiting a long time to see on our screens again. But then watching the episode back, now my heart is sicking. Because it's like he was in such a good spot. Even more so after talking about all the dynamics that were happening.
Starting point is 00:43:55 And the fact that he was in multiple foursums and had a number one in Angelina in addition to Genevieve. So like, that makes it all the more tragic is that, listen, it was going to be a long game. I don't know if he would get to the final three, let alone win for a second time.
Starting point is 00:44:09 But he was set up more surprisingly well than I think a lot of us thought. And the weird ironic thing is like, I feel like so many people have celebrated Kyle as a result of this, right? I'm like, then if he honestly had been voted out proper. I think he would, it's ironic, right? He would have wanted to be voted out proper.
Starting point is 00:44:27 He was arguing with Jeff, let me stay. But in getting his game snuffed out here, he's been flooded with so much deserved positivity and celebration and the statement of, the what if and like oh my god wait could Kyle have become a legend if he stayed longer in this game that's such a good question um because that that could only leave them wanting to see more of Kyle right like let's say I mean who knows we'll get another returning season and what it will be based on but um I think all it did was show what he's capable of in four days which was very impressive um as
Starting point is 00:45:07 the most recent winner that they have seen. But yeah, Kyle is just the best. And I felt for him. And I cannot wait to see Camilla's reaction next episode because like she posted on her Instagram story. She's like, my Achilles, Torres Achilles. And so I know we talked a lot in the draft about how like for Camilla to be in a good position,
Starting point is 00:45:35 she doesn't need to have Kyle. around. That really is like, I know, it's a real monkey's paw situation of like, I wish Kyle wasn't in this game anymore and it comes at the worst possible cost. Yeah, I know. Yeah, you never want to see someone in dread like that. But I think, yeah, I think to
Starting point is 00:45:51 for the Kyle discussion, so this is come up because of traders, right? We've in Traders universe without any spoilers, basically talking about who's the greatest trader of US. I thought your time out like, did someone tear their Achilles in traders? No MediVac.
Starting point is 00:46:07 yet that I know of in traders. No, I would say one particular person had another one as an Achilles heel from a strategic perspective. Well, Achilles heel, definitely. There's been a lot of those. But yeah, so, you know, there's been a conversation basically about, you know, who's been the greatest trader of all time? And I think that part of that conversation has surrounded among seeing people play once versus seeing people play multiple times.
Starting point is 00:46:30 You can evaluate a game by itself sort of in isolation. But when you talk about a player and their skill level, you want to, you don't you want more numbers right you want the reps you want to see how that person can do when put into a different scenario with a different group of people and i think that what kyle demonstrated is that there is a an element where he can be successful with not just the 48ers right without that loyalty people you know like that kind of group he was able to connect with a wide variety of players now you could say well maybe stephanie and colby like are the two loyalty people but with angelina with genevieve like clearly he's able to bring in others So I think that that just helps to give additional evidence to someone's skill level as a game player. So whether or not he was able to, you know, all, sorry, let me reset. Although it was cut short, the point still stands that we were able to see in this, you know, three hours of television, him execute and be successful in a different setting,
Starting point is 00:47:29 which I think gives credit to how good a player he is. That's the thing as well. I think with him and Jenna, honestly, I think the episode, did a really good job of spotlighting them both. And maybe now in retrospect, like that is maybe the hidden agenda of like, well, we know these two aren't long for the world. So we're going to highlight more than more than maybe someone like Aubrey or some of the people on the Calo tribe.
Starting point is 00:47:50 And maybe that's what we're sort of in for. You know, maybe we're getting a bit of like shades of Australia and Survivor. Like, hey, this is your episode. And so we are going to showcase why you are here and unfortunately why you're going to leave us. Yeah. Speaking of Survivor, Australia. So my girlfriend likes to talk to her dad about Survivor.
Starting point is 00:48:11 Like he watches, right? And she was like, oh, like, what did you think of the premiere? He's like, oh, there was this guy there named Richard. She's like, no, I don't think so. He's like, you know what? It's because I'm watching Survivor Australia at the same time. Oh, my God. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:29 Because isn't there a Richard? There is. There is Richard, a man with it in a suit. Yes. That's so funny. which I thought was hilarious. I was like, oh, that's going to trip them up. There's way too many people on 50.
Starting point is 00:48:40 And it's another 24 person cast as well. He has to take 48 names in his head. There's a lot of people. I won't give Australian Survivors, you know, spoilers. But mixing up names, quite a prominent story, Australian Survivor. Well, I want to talk about a couple of names here before we start getting into some of our proper B&B fair.
Starting point is 00:48:59 We got to go back to Exile Island here. Because this, I think, is going to be the biggest storyline. Going to next episode, maybe even beyond Leanna, give me your thoughts about how this 1V1 V1 showdown went down and did you think coach
Starting point is 00:49:15 snaked Ozzy? I think to me, so to me it's almost not even about coach snaking Ozzy in isolation. To me, you have to factor in the conversation that they had the moment they get on Exile Island to have this
Starting point is 00:49:30 competition where they immediately squash the beef. Ozzy's like, man, I should have done more for you to win. You should have won your season. Coach being like, man, no, I was a sore lose. And like, no, I was wrong. No, I was wrong. No, I was wrong. No, I was wrong. No, I was wrong. Yeah. Oh, and they hug it out and their best friends immediately coach betrays that. Right. Like, that's the context in which we have to discuss this. Because if that conversation hadn't happened, sure, maybe Ozzie would have been pissed. Oh, coach being coach, just doing his thing again. But it was like, you have that hope, that hope that they've
Starting point is 00:50:05 squash the beef if you're Ozzy, right? Like, oh, yes, we're in it. Yes, he is honorable. Yes, we are doing this. And coach is like, uh, uh, technically,
Starting point is 00:50:13 I never agreed to this that I wouldn't steal the key. So I think that that's just such an important context to remember, like why Ozzy would be so freaking pissed, which I completely understand. Which, if you want to stick with integrity and honor, like,
Starting point is 00:50:29 wouldn't it the, the bigger statement be? Hey, guys. No matter, like we're all going to fight for this. Like best man wins. Like whoever gets it down, we're fighting for this. And now we have that established.
Starting point is 00:50:42 Because then you're sticking to it. Don't create this opportunity of I didn't say anything. Well, it makes so much sense because coach is such a literal thinker. And one of the things he felt he got in trouble with last time was making too many promises. So he says, okay, then I'll make no promise this. Therefore, no one can be mad at me.
Starting point is 00:51:04 Yeah, like weird. the legalese there of like sincerely literally pleading the fifth. Something that was also interesting though was that you have this chaos at the end that you know, coach is trying to grab the key. Technically speaking, Q is also putting his poll out to grab the key. I am curious, how do you think Ozzy would have reacted if Q did it? Considering that they did make the promise. Right.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Like, Q if you get it, like if you knock it off the poll, I'm going to give it to you. If Q was the one that snived him in the end, do you think Ozzy would be as angry or do you think because of that baked in, again, beef, twice cooked over, Ozzie felt a little more pissed off. I think the beef is what amplifies it. If it was Q, it would have been like, oh, man, it was hard. Like, I should have been able to get it. Q ended up getting in.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Like, it would have sucked for Oz. Oscar. It would have sucked for Oscar. But I don't think he would have been as mad to have still been talking about it, you know, days later. So I think, I think, it was the baked in beef is what really did coach in here. I mean, this has been years, you know?
Starting point is 00:52:12 And if they've never really squashed this beef, they've never really talked, they never spent hours on FaceTime talking this through, which I don't imagine that they did. Of course, coach is going to take his first opportunity to get Oscar back. Yeah. And I mean, also remember, like the conversation that they had, how genuine is it, right?
Starting point is 00:52:32 I'm imagining if I'm in that situation, of course I'm going to say that. I'm like, yeah, you're right. Because this is somebody who you might end up needing to work with. But I completely agree. I think, yeah, I think Oscar would have been pissed at Q, but I think it does get amplified because of the beef. But I will say it would have been very funny to watch coach and Ozzy
Starting point is 00:52:50 be on Exile Island together. That would have been so funny. That's the thing is that I'm sure, you know, if and when Q and Ozier are eliminated, we'll get a little bit of stories as to like the discussions that they had. I'm assuming they made some sort of deal with one another. but like that would have been incredible. I mean, they would have left like best friends.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Like I know Ozzy says Ceres is number one ally, but like he could have really locked in with coach there, which makes what happened all the more hysterical. And what is interesting is like, I legitimately do believe that when they say like they have not talked in South Pacific because they came from the pre-social media era where I do feel like maybe you can speak to this Asia, like new era cast,
Starting point is 00:53:27 even if they feel a certain way about each other, like if they squash beef, they have many ways to communicate with each other. and do so. Whereas like, back in even like 2011, I don't think coach is like, well,
Starting point is 00:53:37 I'm going to call Ozzy up and talk to him about this type of stuff. It was largely, I'm just going to go to my life. And, you know, like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:53:45 exactly, especially if you still want to be involved, like you know you're going to run into people. So there's more incentive there. But also if you just like, hey, I want to squash what happened in the game because I think we could be,
Starting point is 00:53:56 we could actually be really good friends, you know, there's so many ways of just like, oh, just simply interacting on social media or legitimately, you know, hopping on FaceTime or texting or there's just way too many ways these days to connect. So I can see how back in the day going back to your normal life,
Starting point is 00:54:16 there was no reason. There was no incentive. There weren't these like, you know, watch party every single episodes that were so easily accessible and, well, not easily. Imagine like, yeah, coach and Oz, you're figuring out if they're going to go to the Survivor One World Viewing Party
Starting point is 00:54:30 in New York City. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Well, and I think, I think the other thing, too, that was interesting from the exile islandness of it all was the vote thing with the like negotiation. Yeah. Selling your vote. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Some move over selling sunset. So like. Yep, that's the next real estate show. Selling your vote. Selling your vote. She was a real estate agent. So he would be the star of it. But that was really interesting.
Starting point is 00:55:02 that was where also I think we really got a deep dive into the Oscar character of it all. I think what I think I wrote down the quote where Oscar was like, Oscar is a quick talking negotiator. Let's go. Yeah. I mean, I love that he says that, but like all we see to hear Aussie three was like,
Starting point is 00:55:20 hey, we are going to go to tribal council probably soon. So he did an extra vote. And he was like, okay. Man, Oscar. I get the supplies.
Starting point is 00:55:29 Look what I did. I got him over on your knee on that one. Yeah. And then I mean, he gets to come back and I was like, yeah, I won supplies. Yeah. So what's the loss for him? Right. And then he doesn't obviously hands up disclosing later. I think to Kyle, but he lost his vote. But, you know, in the moment, at least to the tribe. And I mean, I don't know, Asia. Maybe you can correct me on this. But if I was in that situation, I probably wouldn't question it too much. I would just be like, yeah, he was sent off to win supplies and he won supplies. So. I mean, the only thing that you can be a little bit curious about is the overnight stay, right? Like you're wondering. Was there more to it? Like, did you get supplies and something else? Like, were there opportunities? I can't imagine they would have two people on exile and not have, like, something to show.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Like, just be basing it on their social interactions. So that's the only thing that would seem like, uh, maybe. But, you know, Q is the type of person that's just like what you see is what you get. So I don't think they're thinking like, this Q this strategic mastermind that is like has figured. something else out on top of getting the supplies. Not to mention he comes up with like a lie for like a sweat challenge, right? He's like, the next morning me and Ozzy had to move these 50 coconuts and I beat him there.
Starting point is 00:56:45 On paper you might be like, I can't believe that he beat Ozzy. But considering that the completely correct true story about Ozzy losing in that first part, yeah, I don't know, maybe you have to come out with something like incredibly outlandish. Like, I like me and Ozzy stayed up all night telling ghost stories to each other. Like you have to come up with some sort of weird. narrative that is almost like too strange to not be real. Right. I mean, and even
Starting point is 00:57:08 when you are telling the truth, like from experience, like me coming back and not admitting that I had like a sash on to hook the keys. Because like as I'm telling the story, I'm looking at my tribe and I'm seeing like some people like look at each other and I'm like, they're not believing me. Let me just cut down on the details
Starting point is 00:57:26 and get straight to it. And I was already like down on my luck because I was like, because I lost. But even when you, you are telling the truth, there are reasons for people to think that you're still lying about something because every new season, you don't know what they're introducing every season. So, you know, it's only a matter of time that the, I mean, well, I guess this would be the time that like the fight for supplies, you don't end with the supplies. You can end with something else, which was what happened with Ozzy.
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Starting point is 01:00:22 So Leanna, spotlight is on you. You're in the hero position. You're twirling the monkey's fist right now. Did you go the full length? did you hook the Y or were you like Surrey getting tripped up by those ropes? All right, let's find out. So I'll start with Jenna.
Starting point is 01:00:38 I did have Jenna going pre-jury. Oh. Yes. A little bit of spoiler here, but after the consensus boot of Savannah, this Silla, Silla, I'm going to ask you a 10 times.
Starting point is 01:00:52 Sillia. Sila. Sila. Sila. Sila. Sila. I'm going to write that What you see la is what you get la. Oh, I like that. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:04 I see la this a lot. Um, okay. This the Sela tribe falls into two factions with Jenna squarely in the middle. It seemed like Jenna was the bell of the ball looking to be recruited by either side until the Romeo plus Juliet of Christian plus Surrey. You know the movie Romeo and Juliet? Oh, like Baz Luhrman. Yeah. Romeo plus Juliet.
Starting point is 01:01:27 It's not Romeo and Juliet. It's Romeo plus Juliet. So the Romeo. the Romeo plus Juliet of Christian plus seri reach across enemy lines to form a truce and in my fan fiction fall in love. Instead of fighting over Jenna for the
Starting point is 01:01:39 numbers, when... Six week old child Leah. And she has a child that's considerably older than six weeks. Hey, don't ruin my fan fiction. Instead of fighting over Jenna for the numbers, when Cila loses another immunity challenge, the old schoolers
Starting point is 01:01:56 and the gamers come together once again to send Jenna on the pre-jury trip. Due to Jenna's early exit, probes in the editing team smush as many nostalgic things about her being on the first season as humanly possible. Her ally was Joe and her enemy was the bond between Christian and Surrey. Okay. Well, technically true, right?
Starting point is 01:02:16 Because Christian wanted to work with Serene. So, and according to Jenna, Christian is this Machiavellian mastermind that led her down this path. And I can't. Yeah. Okay. And speaking of that, that was probably the best part of that intro sequence was watching Jenna's eyes closed and then open and then it's on the boat. Oh, it's cool. I love that. Yeah. I don't know how long they were sitting on that plane to do all of that stuff. I also wonder like, did they do it with everybody? Because we saw what? I think we saw Colby. We saw, I think it was the people who were closing their eyes. I think it was Colby, Stephanie and Jenna. And so like, did they do? want to be equal opportunist or how do you think the new era of people were like, are they just going to
Starting point is 01:03:00 three of us to do this whole eye opening thing? Do we get to do that? I can close my eyes too. Have Rizzo. Oh my God. Okay. Imagine oh wait. If that footage exists of Rizzo doing that, I need to see that
Starting point is 01:03:16 immediately. Thank you very much. I will just brief side note before I talk about my Kyle prediction. I'm sorry, the logo is so ugly. Yeah. I mean, they made a few you like cosmetic improvements in it since like the logo was first released last year, but it kind of is like shining a turd a bit in terms of graphic design. I think the only time it's looked the best is in that puzzle during the immunity.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Okay. Yeah. I like the 50 on the top exceeding out of the logo. But what, you know, is everywhere else. It seems like less than Canva. Yes. Yeah, exactly. I think it was when it was on the plane that it really hit me or I was like,
Starting point is 01:03:56 not ideal anyway okay so Kyle okay I also had Kyle pre-jury but very different reasons apparently being the last
Starting point is 01:04:11 winner people see before playing leaves a lasting impression on one's threat level Kyle was down and out before the season even started to his credit Kyle worked his smile and social game magic so at least there was some debate over him being the first boot from the Vatu tribe.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Kyle is obviously sad, but a good sport about it, knowing he gets to go back to his pile of cash. And then I wrote, imagine Scrooge McDuck swimming into a pile of coins. Well, he's not going to be swimming anytime soon.
Starting point is 01:04:45 Nope. Got to run, got a heel first. At the next reward challenge, Camilla looks sad and shocked to see her former alliance mate voted out, but is secretly happy knowing it will lower her at level. His ally was Genevieve and his enemy was Aubrey.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Oh, okay. I feel like you got, you definitely nailed the, the Genevieve connection. Yeah. And technically, Genevieve and Aubrey were against each other. The enemy of my friend is my enemy.
Starting point is 01:05:11 Yeah. That's what they say. That's what they say. But yeah, I mean, obviously, I never expected him to get many back, clearly.
Starting point is 01:05:21 And I thought that he was just going to be, I thought three of them from 48, like one, someone's got to pay the price. Kyle's the last winner. Joe's never going anywhere. He's Mr. Loyalty, got a wedgie on TV.
Starting point is 01:05:33 Like, he's going to be fine. So then it was kind of between Kyle and Camilla. I thought, maybe Kyle. The only reason I thought maybe Kyle would stay was obviously because of his physical prowess. But clearly in writing my prediction, I did not factor that in.
Starting point is 01:05:47 So there we are. Yeah. I mean, you also never know. I know that obviously there was a lot of talk when the tribes were revealed of like, oh God, pig, purple tribe, disaster tribe and look maybe it happens i mean asia your tribe went to travel council a couple times but not until episode three but like yeah so far so good you know they they are showing
Starting point is 01:06:05 they killed that opening challenge like they were not out of step whatsoever yeah yeah they did yeah and i thought jenna did amazing wasn't well who wait no was it jennar or stephanie who was like first stephanie yeah yeah she basically like low-key won the challenge for them from the very beginning. Yeah. She was so far out ahead in digging the thing. What regular excavator is Christian would say. Right.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Yeah. I love that as well thinking about that comment. And again, Rick's like news update. You're doing great of like, these are the first things they're saying to this woman who they don't know. Imagine that's your first impression. Okay. Well, we have given our thoughts.
Starting point is 01:06:45 And I will say one of the things I was most excited about when season 50 premiere happened, what are the casuals thinking? Of course, you gotta know, right? So I went to the Survivor Facebook page. Oh my God, water bottle buddies. Wait, you should might have the same water bottle. Oh my God, they're going to vote me out. Guys, no.
Starting point is 01:07:05 That's, this is our pregame alliance. Now I know what it's like to feel like I'm on the outs. Anyway, but thankfully it doesn't matter because I hold your scores in my hand. Oh, no. You'll be drinking it in, much like we, you out of these water bottles. From alliance mates to enemies. All right.
Starting point is 01:07:26 So I went to the Survivor Facebook page. And so I'm first just going to read like a general comments that I pulled just to give you guys a general feel on how the survivor casuals were feeling. That's not what the game is about, but just to have a little bit of fun here. So I think we were all on the same page. Best episode of Survivor in a long time. Chills and giggles for three hours straight. Chills and giggles.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Chills and giggles. they really, really liked it. Of course, you had a number of comments. Where's Rupert? Where's Russell? You know, those types of things. Of course, those are always going to show up. Did Boston Rob show up? Boston Rob showed up a couple of times.
Starting point is 01:08:02 We got a couple of fare plays, actually, especially because they showed the clip, the dead grandma clip. So that one was like, very rude to show a clip of fair play and then not include him. I mean, that's the other thing that I was very intrigued by and that made me so happily surprised by that opening montage.
Starting point is 01:08:15 It's like, yeah, they did some stuff to like specifically highlight the 24 that made it on. but like I did think there was a chance they were going to maybe obfuscate some people to not invite that discussion necessarily. Yeah. Yeah. I bet you got to include the dead grandma moment though. And it was like one or two comments for that. I would say the majority were where where's Rupert.
Starting point is 01:08:36 That was, that seemed to be the biggest snub, actually more than Boston Raw, which I was a little bit surprised about. But there was one comment, one top comment on a thread had 262 likes. Old school players are so much more enjoyable to. watch the new era players. Dare you. I was like, um, tracks, that tracks.
Starting point is 01:08:57 Okay. Like, really it is just, it's nice to see them again. Yes. And I think for me, the joy comes with them interacting with each other,
Starting point is 01:09:07 right? And we've talked about this a lot, and I will mention it again for the umpteenth time, but the interaction between Colby and Rizzo, iconic, amazing.
Starting point is 01:09:15 Like, that's what I'm here to watch. So I think you, you got to have a little bit of both in order to make it enjoyable. And I think as well, I mean, I've heard some people actually talk about this with Colby. And yeah, you don't necessarily think about,
Starting point is 01:09:25 like, how many people do you think audition for Survivor, the Australian Outback? Like, think about the personality you had to have to beat out that many people to get onto the show. Like, they are so good at cutting soundbites. I think because, like, their story and their personality had to stand out amongst maybe millions of people at one point. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:47 I think that's a good point. And I also think there's this concept of survivorship bias where like you, they have so remember, the new era was just a couple of years ago. There hasn't been the time to vet people in terms of like who are truly the icons of survivor, whereas we're pulling the icon icons of survivor. Like who is going to be the Aussie of the 40s? You know what I mean? Like we haven't had time to really like figure that out yet necessarily.
Starting point is 01:10:16 So I think that there's a little bit of that as well. Like you've got the top, top, top players from earlier seasons where, you know, it's unvetted maybe or less vetted from the new era. So I think that's something else is taking into consideration. All right. For our actual game today, what I've done is I've pulled comments about specific players on this season. But I have blanked out the name. I've also changed any pronouns to be gender neutral. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to read a casuals comment and that it's,
Starting point is 01:10:48 It is up to you to fill in the blank, basically who this comment is about. So, Mike, we're going to start with you. Well, at least we know Blank's eyelash extensions can survive diving into mud. Okay. There is one player with whom I noticed the eyelash extensions the most, which makes, and since I am not the most observational, Allee, I haven't imagined that's a good barometer for the casual. audience. I'm going to say Angelina. That is incorrect.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Oh, can I? Yeah. Steal, steal, steal, steal, steal. Yeah, steal my key. Yeah. I'm going to say, Surrey. That is correct. Yes. Between those two. But I feel like maybe because I was just watching the end of the episode, we're like, it's that shot of like Angelina with her face down crying.
Starting point is 01:11:42 Then I really noticed the eyelashes. Yeah. I will say the main reason I noticed them with Surrey is because I I don't know if she's had them in previous seasons. Like even Australian Survivor. Like I was like, it was, it was noticeable from seeing her so many times in this environment. And they were heavy too. So I think it was like a combination of those two things. It's weird though, because they didn't show that Sarie had found the Billy eyelash boomerang idol
Starting point is 01:12:07 that she had to wear across her face the entire season. Outwit, outplay, outlash. Let's help me. All right. Asia, we're going to go to you. If you get it wrong, we're updating the rules of the game. We're dynamic just like the advantages. Wait, did we vote on that actually?
Starting point is 01:12:27 That was an option. That was it was minimal, strategic, and dynamic, which makes no, like, what does that mean? I have no idea. Whatever they want. Yeah, but as Jeff said, by the way, this is his exact quote, we turned the entire game over to the fans.
Starting point is 01:12:46 I feel like I'm being gaslit. Anyway. The entire game also, Exile Island, something that none of us knew was coming back whatsoever. Also, he was not so excited to tell them that we voted for the colors.
Starting point is 01:12:59 I feel like he was disappointed in the colors. I love the colors. That was the easiest vote. I mean, they were amazing. We love. All right. So, Asia, we're going to go to you, but if you get wrong,
Starting point is 01:13:12 Mike has the ability to pop in and steal. Blank is wearing jeans on a beach. that just feels wrong. Is it Chrissy? That is incorrect. Mike, you can step in and steal. All right. So let me now picture all these fine people in denim.
Starting point is 01:13:34 Not to get into my off podcast thoughts. All right. So my first thought for some reason would be Jonathan, but he was wearing these weird, almost teeny like scarecrow pants. Yes. throughout the road to the first of me. So I definitely not him.
Starting point is 01:13:53 I mean, it's it's gotta be coach. Like I'm pretty sure coach. I remember when he was doing the coach she's seen to like close out his like, now I've realized I've taken the gloves off this time around. I'm pretty sure he was wearing jeans then. That is correct. Wow.
Starting point is 01:14:09 Coach. So you've stolen each other's points. We are tied one. One. Mike, we're going to go back to you. This is your official question. I think blanks, undies changed colors. Dot, dot, dot, dot.
Starting point is 01:14:24 Pay attention to that area. Like, are they implying they peed themselves and changed the color? That is not how I interpreted that. But now that's all I'm thinking of. posterior rather than the anterior. I have absolutely no. Okay, why is it excrement? Why is it some form of excrement with you?
Starting point is 01:14:45 What is about with the changing colors of underwear? I just thought they got new undies and they were like, they're giving them new clothes or something like that. But anyway, whether they pee-ped or poo-poohed or got new pants,
Starting point is 01:14:56 Mike, who is it that the casuals are peeping, peeping the underwear? Okay, well, I'm trying to think, now I have to go
Starting point is 01:15:03 to my other podcast on who am I imagining in their tiny whitties or perhaps another color. Who did we see in their underwear? Oh, maybe Q, I definitely remember Q in his underwear.
Starting point is 01:15:16 Because I think he was his underwear when like he walks off to exile with Ozzy. So maybe it was Q. Maybe it was Ozzy. I'm gonna go with Q because I feel like Q's underwear was more of a pronounced color. So maybe people would pay attention to if the
Starting point is 01:15:31 hues changed at all, not the Q's. Well, apparently you and the casuals both looking at Q is down under because yes, that is correct. It was about Q. Which now I'm like, I clearly didn't pay enough attention to that area as this commenter.
Starting point is 01:15:47 Yeah. All about the, all about the cueness. About the cueness. That's right. Not the penis. Oh. No.
Starting point is 01:15:57 Okay. Anyway, so Asia's going to be playing solo the rest of the game as Mike is sent to time out. Right. Okay. Asia, let's go to you.
Starting point is 01:16:09 Okay. All right. So, uh, next week on Survivor, someone talks about their dad. and they cry. They stub their toe and they cry.
Starting point is 01:16:22 They seize a stick and they cry. Wait, they seize a stick. They seize a stick and they cry. They didn't have more. Nope, that was it. A couple of three is in comedy, you know. That's critical. All right, Asia, who has a comment about?
Starting point is 01:16:43 Oh, speaking of comedy, I did go see May Martin. last night they came to Houston yeah for comedy it was a comedy show with an intermission and then they did improv with their friend and then they sang a few tunes on a
Starting point is 01:17:01 guitar so variety show from May Martin yeah that's fun exactly but yeah known survivor fan okay I'm gonna I think the answer is obvious here
Starting point is 01:17:15 because there's one person that we cry a lot recently in the past like six months on television. I'd have to say Rizzo. That is correct. It is Rizzo. Yes. I mean, my heart always breaks when he's
Starting point is 01:17:33 upset, like, especially when Kyle's revealing the news and it keeps, and Rizzo's like, he looks so sad. His lip quivers, yeah. But it is countered brilliantly by like, I understand what he was saying to Colby, but it is kind of objectively hilarious out of context that he says like, my dad's 47 and then purse it to tears.
Starting point is 01:17:52 Yeah. Well, he did it with Nate also. Like he was like, you're like my dad. I feel like Rizzo's like really out there just looking for a father. To be fair, Rizzo has now spent like with the exception of a 10 day period. He spent like two months being away from his dad. So he's just trying to find his dad. He's like Simba.
Starting point is 01:18:10 He's looking up at the clouds and he's seeing Mufasa everywhere he goes. Are you my dad? Are you my dad? Okay. Well, now you've each gotten your own questions, correct? I'll find out. Mike, we're going back to you. You know, if I squint a little blank looks like Kevin Costner. He, he.
Starting point is 01:18:37 Okay, Michael Jackson is a comeback from the dead. Listen, I mean, it has to be Colby. I think a lot of people are even making the Kevin Costner comparison. especially when he wore his own denim unlike coach on the top rather than the bottom. I think people were getting that Yellowstone vibe from him. That is correct. Multiple people commented this as well.
Starting point is 01:18:57 This was not the only one of people thinking Colby looks like Kevin Costner and also everybody's like Colby's still really hot. Like that's the thing like I was out there on the island with him like holy moly. He aged really well. Yeah. It was great.
Starting point is 01:19:11 Incredibly well. Okay. Asia, we're going to you. Is it just me or is blank giving off Hobbit vibes? Okay. Oh gosh. Okay. Hobbit vibes?
Starting point is 01:19:34 Yes. You know, that is a very interesting one. I am in between two people. Okay. I'm thinking either Ozzy because of his hair. and Christian. Um, Hobbit vibes.
Starting point is 01:19:57 It really depends on what they mean. Like, I don't want to be like, it just real. Is it just, um, okay. I, Hobbit vibes. Hobbit vibes.
Starting point is 01:20:15 Um, okay. I'm gonna just go. Gosh. I want to, okay. I just, go with my gut and see Ozzy. Okay.
Starting point is 01:20:28 That is incorrect. Mike, would you like to steal? I would love to because, I mean, unfortunately, I feel like the Hobbit label is often a very male coded term, even though there are
Starting point is 01:20:43 female hobbits, justice for Rosie the barmaid. But I feel like when people talk about hobbits, they talk about you know, short men who are having a good time. There aren't a lot of like, the Shire was a place where they could smoke pipeweed and
Starting point is 01:20:59 light fireworks and galavent about before, you know, Doom quite literally rained down upon them. So I guess the question is like, but there's no like actual short kings on this season. So I guess who has those vibes about them? Christian is a good one.
Starting point is 01:21:15 Rick could also be a good one as well, especially because you know, a famous Hobbit Billbo Baggins once found a very powerful thing in the form of the ring. Rick, of course, is an idol hound, as Christian called him. It's weird because Christian was also explicitly referencing other franchises on this episode, but I guess he's the next best thing to Asia's point. So I'm going to go with Christian. Okay. That is also incorrect. Wow. This was about, and I think you'll figure out why when I say it, Charlie. Oh. Here's my theory.
Starting point is 01:21:53 Charlie gives up his foot for the ring and the coach's ring that gets slipped on his toe And ironically enough He goes invisible in the episode after that Exactly Ring feet invisible It all works
Starting point is 01:22:10 So I think Charlie would also get the reference too I think he would appreciate it Oh that's funny All right Mike let's go to you Blank needs to quit being a baby I'm going to go I'm going to go with Ozzy on this one I'm really intrigued to see how the casuals feel
Starting point is 01:22:31 about the whole Ozzy v. Coach thing but I feel like as much as maybe people on the island are like ooh coach I feel like the casual opinion is more so that Ozzy has the sour grapes okay first of all that's amazing that you got that because yes that is correct and I was like this is so vague he'll never get that because I was trying to think about like
Starting point is 01:22:50 like who's complaining about what like maybe it's you know complaining about Cerey. But when I think about like, what was the most recurring complaint throughout the episode from one aggrieved party? It was Ozzy. The 19 confessionals, yeah. Yeah. Yep.
Starting point is 01:23:05 Okay. Well, Ayesha, I'm sorry you are mathematically eliminated. But let's see if you can get your last one here. Your final comment is, I would love to see Blank Win. They are amazing with such a heart of gold.
Starting point is 01:23:21 Oh, my God. Who has a heart of gold? Who's got a heart of gold? The casuals would have seen already. Who has a heart of gold? Because I'm thinking maybe Vatu, because I feel like the Kyle situation would have brought. Yeah, he just was at the hospital.
Starting point is 01:23:49 He's coming back. Um, yeah, I'm thinking it has to be Vatu because of the Kyle situation. Like that would have prompted them to say that. So I don't, I don't think Sela going to tribal would have caused that or anything. Is it Kalo? Kala. Kalo, yeah, Kalo's the green trail. Kalo, okay.
Starting point is 01:24:13 Sila, Kalo, Vatu. I'm practicing. What, your vampire impression? one Bha, two. Um, oh, okay. Can you read it one more time?
Starting point is 01:24:33 Can I have the definition? Yes, you may. I'll use it in a sentence. I would love to see Blank win. They are amazing with such a heart of gold. Okay. I, Genevieve.
Starting point is 01:24:48 Aw, that's very sweet. Uh, no. That is wrong. Mike, would you like to take a stab at it? Yes, because apparently, according to this person, they would never stab somebody. They have a heart of gold. So I'm between two people right now.
Starting point is 01:25:03 I think the chalk pick, without anything from this episode, would be Joe, because he does have a heart of gold. And we do get a little bit of, you know, obviously that moment with Eva. And it obviously wasn't that long ago, so people have a firm memory of it in their heads. The one that would be more applicable to this episode would be Christian.
Starting point is 01:25:22 because Christian has that just like incredibly heartwarming confessional of like talking about his, his child is his secret weapon and someday my son will see this. So I feel like if we're talking about like who expressed they had a heart of gold in this specific episode, Asia did some wishful thinking. I will do so as well and say Christian. Your first gut guess was correct. It was not Christian. It was Joe.
Starting point is 01:25:45 There's actually a lot of Joe love. I was I was gold asked actually as we look back. Like did you feel like there were any people? significantly that casuals were supporting more than others. Joe popped up a lot. You know, obviously there was the, oh, I'm really excited to see Colby. Colby's really hot. A lot of that kind of stuff, right?
Starting point is 01:26:03 But yeah, there was a lot of, a lot of Joe love. A lot of coach is annoying, that kind of stuff. A lot of Rizzo and Savannah don't deserve to be here. So, yeah, those are the general vibes. But a lot of people just not even mentioned at all, which I think is interesting. So a lot of focus on Surrey, Ozzie, coach. Colby and Joe interestingly
Starting point is 01:26:26 like Joe is Joe is like a very popular player you know like not only does he have some incredibly heartwarming scenes but like he was one of the front runners to win but a year ago so like it is weird though I think again because like he didn't do that much in this episode so I think that's where I got
Starting point is 01:26:42 tripped up but it doesn't say yeah yeah so I'm like what did they see that would make them think but yeah I guess it's just that the feelings they already had about Joe You know what it was, though? It is that confessional of when Sela first hits the beach where he essentially does the whole friend thing with me all over again of like,
Starting point is 01:26:59 we've got an amazing group. Christians brilliant. Ozzy strong. Rick Devids, he's a goof. I love him. And Savannah, I don't know her at all, but you must be pretty cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:11 Yeah, I think that and them showing the clips of, you know, the Jim and Eva moment. I think also the, he was just so beloved on his season anyway, and it wasn't that long ago. So I think that a lot of that just carries. over. Yeah. So anyway, congratulations. Michael. Asia, you did a fabulous job. And that's, that's what the casuals is saying. Okay, but it sounds like they are largely high on the season, one episode in? Yes. Yep. Largely high on the season. I'm pretty excited overall. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:27:39 really the only negativity that I saw was actually towards Savannah, Rizzo and coach for the most part. Everything else was pretty positive. All right. I'm, I guess we are all in that league. Not with those specific player, uh, you know, critiques, but more so about the overall positivity on the season so far. And let's segue to a little bit more positivity. Because, of course, we end each and every week here on the B&B, by giving our guest a chance to spotlight a charity or cause that is important to them. Of course, we have the privilege to be able to escape into this lovely island show
Starting point is 01:28:14 for an hour and a half to three hours at any time. But of course, there's a lot of very important things that are going on outside of our proverbial island here. And so we always want to give our guests the opportunity to spotlight some of those. So, Asia, what do you have for the audience this week? So I have the American Kidney Fund. So they're actually really kind organization. They reached out to me to thank me for the donation for most recently.
Starting point is 01:28:39 I went to Over the Edge and donated the money that I raised to the American Kidney Fund. And they reached out to me on Instagram and said, thanks. I was like, wow. More coming away. Okay. Are you sure? Do you get like, hey, it's me, America Kidney Foundation. Right.
Starting point is 01:28:57 Oh, yeah. He's just getting scammed. Yeah, no. They were verified. And so I was like, okay, this is legit. And so, yeah, I've just been, my family has been affected. My mom, she was on dialysis for five years before she got a kidney and she was on the list for years and had to do dialysis every single night from home. Wow.
Starting point is 01:29:19 And yeah, now she's living great with her kidney. And now my dad is going through the same thing. So it's just very helpful organization to help with the ongoing costs to, you know, it just really impacts someone's life being on dialysis. Because if you're not going to a center, you're doing it from home every night and think of like wanting to travel or, you know, and my mom was a very big advocate for not letting it saw her down. So we went, we traveled to Orlando and she would just get her a dialysis solution shipped there and then have to, you know, take the her machine on the plane. And so she spoke at,
Starting point is 01:29:59 you know, her dialysis center to different, while she was going through it would speak to them about, hey, you don't have to, this is not like a pause on your life. Like you can live a full life while being on dialysis and, you know, nurturing your kidney. So, um, Yeah, it's something that I, you know, I just constantly keep in mind and just trying to like take care of my body, you know. And so, yeah, the American Kidney Fund. And I think if I can get the website, I think it is very straightforward. But the American Kidney Fund, they are on Instagram, like I said, but it's kidney fund. Dot org.
Starting point is 01:30:37 Okay. Yes, short, sweet. And to the point. Thank you so much, Asia, especially opening up about how much, you know, that has affected your family. clearly this is a cause that means a lot to you. And you mean a lot to us, especially getting to come on and talk about such a fun episode of Survivor
Starting point is 01:30:55 on such a fun podcast. Besides May Martin's stand-up tour, what would you like to talk for the listeners out there? Yes, so podcasting in a couple of places right now. So first, I just recently started a podcast with my girlfriend, Sarah. We started a podcast called Life by, So it's life, B-I-U, us, since we're both by.
Starting point is 01:31:21 It's funny, our first podcast, we didn't drop that until like maybe 30 minutes in. We're like, oh, yeah, we forgot to bury the lead. I mean, or we buried the lead. This is why it's called this. But we are on YouTube and anywhere you listen to audio podcast. It's just going to be a fun place to hang out with our friends in the LGBTQ-plus community and allies to just get to know people better who are part of this lovely community. So we, it's just like a fun passion project and we're having a great time doing it so far.
Starting point is 01:31:49 So you can find us. Yeah, like I said, on YouTube, if you just look up Life, B.I. Us. And then also, Jason Reed and I, when we're not talking about the seasons that are airing live on Peacock now, we are talking about merit at first site over on our Patreon. So we decided to start a Patreon about a year ago. We're celebrating a year where we're talking about old seasons of Mary. at first site. And we're doing a bunch of bonus podcasts, interviewing past cast members. We've just created a little math world over there. So you can find that at patreon.com slash a perfect match podcast. And we're having a great time over there. And then you can just
Starting point is 01:32:29 follow me on all social media at Asia like Asia. That's AYSHA like ASIA. All right. Leanna, we know that as always you and Pia are putting out great stuff on the Puyah and Leanna Lounge. I know. Well, we'll figure out we want to do weekly plugs. I like the stuff you and I do because it's always the disabled, great. I know. But what would you like to plug for the uninitiated? What is the Pooia and Leana Lounge? And what do you have on the docket this way?
Starting point is 01:32:52 Yeah. So for the Pooia and Leanna Lounge, it's Puea and myself get together and just chat about anything that's on our mind. We're actually, we postponed recording this week. So we could watch basically all three of the reality shows that drop this this week or ended, I guess. So we're going to talk about this. We normally don't talk this much about reality TV,
Starting point is 01:33:10 although we do touch on it pretty much every week. It's just such a big part of our lives. But this week we're doing basically a three-fur. We're going to talk a little bit about and gets Puyah's thoughts on the Survivor premiere. We're going to talk about the Traders U.S. finale. And, of course, House of Villains, which premiered this week with Tyson Apostle, who is no spoilers, but already iconic on this season. If you have not watched House of Villains, it's on Peacock now.
Starting point is 01:33:35 So it's a little bit easier to find than it was on E. Previously. It's so good. It's just like such a fun show. again, the nostalgia factor is a 10 out of 10. And it just doesn't take itself too seriously. It like reminds me of the golden age of H1 reality TV shows. It's so, so, so fun.
Starting point is 01:33:52 It definitely helps that Tiffany in New York Pollard is there, who was a staple of that era. Exactly. An icon. So yeah, so much, so much love for House of Villains. Go watch it if you haven't already. Yeah. I believe it's three episodes that came out with. So again, this was a wild week for reality TV.
Starting point is 01:34:07 It feels like we're finally settling down into a routine. So catch up on House of Villains, catch up on Australian Survivor as well because that is in full swing with Richard and 23 other people. It's all the Richard show. I also forgot on RHAP. I'm talking about love is blind right now. So we are, yeah, we have covered 11 episodes so far.
Starting point is 01:34:33 And so we have the finale and the reunion coming up. So this season has been very entertaining. So highly recommended. covering with Jason Reed and Merikikowski. Yeah, I was going to ask how it was because I know that last season was not highly regarded, but does this seem like it says a little bit step in the right direction? Step in the right direction is tough because, I mean, every season just proves like why these,
Starting point is 01:34:57 why are these people doing this? The concept is broken. Love is not blind. They have proven that time and time and time again. It's just that they just found people that spark conversation. Like everyone loves talking about these people Not from like oh we love these people But oh my gosh what a mess
Starting point is 01:35:16 And we can't wait to see what other mess comes from it Like it should be a pretty good reunion So entertainment value is there Is love blind? No All right well you can check out of course All the stuff I've got going on Because again I was out there for the first three days Of Survivor 50 so I put out a whole article
Starting point is 01:35:38 About everything you didn't see between Angelina negotiating for a tarp between Colby and Jeff, recreating their chocolate bar moment, everything in between Colby trying to tell Rizzo not to cut so much and vice versa. So I got that an article for him. I also put out a podcast with Rob on the patron feed covering all of that as well. Going back to Australian Survivor briefly, though, of course, that also decided to premiere this week. And so I did hop on with Shannon Gus for one episode.
Starting point is 01:36:07 but as of this week I start the transition process to sit in the big chair for at least a little bit to take over while Shadden's on maternity leave covered this season which I've been having a lot of fun with so far you know it's feels a little new
Starting point is 01:36:22 it's like trying on a new pair of clothes where you have to run through the washer a few times to like really get the feel for it we've got a new host feels like a new direction for the show but for what it's worth it's some of my favorite stuff from Australian Survivor which is like a lot of shooting yourself
Starting point is 01:36:36 in the foot which is the type of survivor content I love to see in terms of entertainment value. So check that out as well as the subsequent weekups we've got going on with that. And then Traders finished off. It's run. I have a couple of interviews that I put out in the past couple days. One with Mark Ballas. One with Tara Lipinski.
Starting point is 01:36:52 We'll see if there's more in the future. Real quick, spoiler free thoughts, Asia. What do you think about the capper to the Trader season four? Oh, well, I will say I'm very glad we got the finale and the reunion one night, immediately got to dive in. It had me on the edge of my seat. I didn't think it would. So I, you know, that's on me.
Starting point is 01:37:16 No, I mean, I agree with you. I do, I made my, you know, thoughts very public that like this was not my favorite season. But I do feel like the last 10 minutes in particular without getting into too much were very, very fun. And maybe the strongest part of the past like three or so episodes of the show. Absolutely. So feel right.
Starting point is 01:37:34 Of course you can check out the honest full thoughts. on the pal. She's remaining mum right now, locking away with a key that coach will drag into his ring. But hopefully you're not dragging this podcast in the comments, because I'm so excited to be back with the B&B. I think especially, again,
Starting point is 01:37:49 as Mike White said, he wants this season to be fun. We are the fun in games podcast here on RHAP. So I think we're going to have a really good time, whether it's talking about the episode proper, whether it's bringing in whatever miscellaneous stuff that we want to do. I definitely know that that fashion show has already sort of like
Starting point is 01:38:05 filled our, our, our cue for buffer stuff, inevitably. But if you have game ideas of what you want us to do, feel free to reach out. Really, any and all idea. We're not closed off at any point. Unlike Aubrey, we are open for business. So feel free to reach out to us, RHP, B, and B, at gmail.com, the letter B, the letter B, the letter B,
Starting point is 01:38:25 or you can use the hashtag RHAPB on social media. She is at Leon RJP. I am at a Mike Bloom type. That's going to do it for this week on. the B&B so happy to be back, especially talking about such a fun episode of what will hopefully be such a fun season. Special thanks to
Starting point is 01:38:43 everyone behind the scenes at RHAP for packaging this podcast for your eyes and your ears. And well, from America for his incredible theme song that is still slapping, like that old school voting music they brought back as a bit of a remix. Oh, I got my nostalgic heart thrumming and it will not
Starting point is 01:38:59 stop feeding hopefully for the next few months or at least the next week, as we'll talk all things, episode two, of Survivor 50. Until then, everybody, we'll check you out at your next day.

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