RHAP: We Know Survivor - Survivor 50 Ep 3 LIVE Know-It-Alls in Los Angeles

Episode Date: March 12, 2026

Survivor 50 Ep 3 LIVE Know-It-Alls in Los Angeles Survivor 50 heats up as Rob Cesternino and Stephen Fishbach host a lively Live Know-It-Alls from Los Angeles, joined by an all-star panel of past Survivor players. The crew dives straight into one of the most unpredictable episodes of the season, spotlighting Cirie’s magnetic gameplay, Emily’s chaotic strategy, and the emergence chances of new and returning legends. The panel unpacks the dynamics of the latest tribe swap, exploring how players like Cirie charm and disarm the competition while still being considered a major threat. Parvati Shallow shares insights on how to best work with (or avoid crossing) Cirie, while Danielle DiLorenzo recounts memorable run-ins and lessons from their shared Survivor journeys. The group debates Q’s shocking exit, Coach’s signature stories and integrity talk, and the hilarity and confusion around the Billie Eilish boomerang idol. Emily’s blend of immediate oversharing and quick recovery earns both criticism and admiration. Tribal Council drama, blindfold challenge mishaps, and shifting alliances keep everyone guessing, as legends and new schoolers alike try to outwit, outplay, and outlast each other on Survivor’s biggest stage. – Cirie’s unprecedented sixth season, loyalty risks, and social maneuvering—according pliant to Parvati and the panel – Q’s dramatic self-sacrifice and what his vote-out means for the season’s energy – The Billie Eilish boomerang idol confusion and its effect on gameplay – Emily’s wild, unapologetic social gameplay and her growing legend status – Coach and Ozzy’s rivalry, honor, and hallmark moments in camp and at challenges – Dee’s struggle balancing instinct with Cirie’s world-class subtlety Can anyone truly outwit Cirie, or will her social game claim another legacy-defining spot? Will Emily’s all-in chaos build alliances or burn them? Join the crowd for the full pulse of Survivor 50, every misplayed vote, idol twist, and legendary showdown. Chapters: 0:00 Intros 6:00 Cirie’s Surprising Six Seasons Debate 10:05 Cirie’s Social Power Discussed 11:03 Coach 4.0 Returns With Drama 13:05 Billie Eilish Boomerang Idol Confusion 20:10 Emily Flippin’s Chaotic Gameplay Revealed 27:00 Q’s Extra Vote Lie Unpacked 30:06 Billie Eilish Idol Causes Chaos 38:18 Joe and Rick’s Unmovable Alliance 44:44 Q’s Departure Shakes Survivor 50 48:02 Women’s Alliance Gains Momentum 51:49 Dee Versus Cirie Rivalry Builds 54:49 Blindfold Challenge Sparks Old Wounds 59:10 Mike White Gets The Fishy 1:11:20 Swap Screw Twist No Longer Relevant 1:13:22 Book Raffle and Event Farewell To pre-order Rob’s book, The Tribe and I Have Spoken, visit www.robhasabook.com To order Stephen’s novel Escape!, visit stephenfishbach.com Never miss a minute of RHAP’s extensive Survivor coverage! LISTEN: Subscribe to the Survivor podcast feed WATCH:  Watch and subscribe to the podcast on YouTube SUPPORT:  Become a RHAP Patron for bonus content, access to Facebook and Discord groups plus more great perks!

Smartest guys around are about to break it down like they've won the game a million times. Well, actually, they never really won the game at all. Surviving no it owes. Surviving no it holds. It's been six years since I've come to a live event, and this is so far a clip. I mean, honestly, they were nice, but this is really nice. It's been, yeah, six years. It was Survivor 40 the last time Stephen was here with us on the live show. What's new? Anything? Before we begin the festivities, I know some of you just snapped before, which you're welcome to do.

But can I get a little bit of this? Okay. You don't have to. You don't have to if you're uncomfortable or you're already snapped out. So we're all gathered here to celebrate our hap. But every other. Everybody's uncomfortable because fish is gonna wrap. It's such an honor to stand next to Rob, but really I'm just excited to hobnob. I hope this live show is really instructive, but you can't say it's the best ever because Reingings are... All right. Thank you very much. It's such a pleasure to be back.

That was so brave of you. Sorry? That was so brave of you. Thank you. I feel safe to fail. among my friends. Yeah. This is so fun that we're getting to talk about

Survivor 50, super bummed to lose Q. How are you feeling? I was bummed. We've got so much great stuff from Q. I mean, only three episodes.

All right, I was bummed. Yeah, only three episodes of Q. We needed more Q. We've had such a exciting trip to L.A. Last night, we were at Barnes & Noble

at the Grove to celebrate Stephen. Thank you, everybody who came out And for those of you who didn't come out, you know, I remember. A best-selling author, and we were there hobnobbing with the literati. Oh, yeah. And so a really exciting night there.

And now here we are with, what, 900 people here live at the Alex Theater in Los Angeles. Whoa. I've got nothing to say. I'm literally speechless. Okay, I can't, yeah. Yeah. Incredible. Yeah.

Okay. So we have a lot to. break down tonight. We're going to have a lot of guests joining us to talk about everything here tonight. And we're going to get into it. We're going to give out a fishy later on in this episode. Okay. Should we start to bring out some guests? Yeah, my gosh. Okay. We have here. What it, maybe, you know, the Survivor know it alls are a great duo, but we are joined by an incredible duo here tonight. Of course, you know them from working together in Survivor Heroes versus Villains. Please welcome Queen Parvety Shallow and the lady-in-waiting, Danielle D Lorenzo.

Did you hurt? Look at us. You're okay? Yeah, please sit, sit right. Yes, have a seat. Wow, this is crazy. I'm like Colby in the challenge tonight. Yeah, what's happening here? Sorry, I didn't beat her up. That wasn't me. This just happened. I'm walking backstage and someone slams the metal door open and hits me in the face. You have an ice pack.

You had a medevac? Guys, if I don't make sense tonight, you understand. You know why. Were you blindfolded? Sorry. No, sadly, I was not. I had both eyes open. I was like, what are you holding?

I know. Do I have a fat lip? No. Okay. Do you want to lay down? Are you okay? But how good was Colby when he bashed his head? Oh, my God, he was so tough.

Yeah. You know, when I hit my head so hard, I didn't think it was going to matter or anything. But, you know, on Survivor, you get injured. But Jeff was like, yeah, that's how we do it. Yeah. Head trauma. Yeah, he was, like, really struggling, like, to get up after. So you know, the Colby's down for the count.

This was, like, worse than him. with coach. This whole season has been a litany of his injuries. Yeah. Okay. Danielle, how are you? I am so good. Oh my gosh. This is so fun to be here. This is like, I'm not with my two, my, my three and now four and a half year old. So it's like, so nice to just be around people again. Okay, so we'd love to get your thoughts here on so many people you know, both of you in season 50. And you two, even though you work together, you are both mutually alliance partners with

Sarie. Oh yeah. Oh, yeah. We love her. Yeah. But it's dangerous we learn tonight. It's dangerous to love her. I have a bone to pick,

and I think you'll back me up on this. Ceree, I don't know if you guys have heard this, but I've heard her say now multiple times on this show that she's played five seasons of Survivor. Oh. What do you think it's five and a half? Oh, oh, I get it.

Incorrect. So rude. That woman has played six seasons of four. I will not be gaslit and I will not let you be gaslit by the revolution. Yeah. By the capital? I thought maybe she wasn't counting the current season. These are like the past seasons.

But I think if we're getting, it's day eight, this is pretty far into the sixth season. This is six seasons of Survivor for Surrey Field. Six seasons in a movie. Wild. And I was on her first one. Is that the most amount of seasons of Survivor anyone has ever played? Six. Someone here can probably answer that question.

Yeah. Christian? I think, yeah. I think Rob and Sandra were on six, but they didn't play in one. Don't minimize their experience. Oh. But they weren't like, like, does that count? They had giant heads.

They were in the booth. Yeah. Okay. Danielle, how do you feel like Surrey is doing? I feel like she's doing Surrey. Yeah. And in honor of Surrey, we had you both sit on the couch. Yeah, should we get off the couch?

You get off the couch? Oh, okay. Sure. All right. Move to the other couch. We're off the couch. Yeah. We're off the couch.

Yeah, we're going. Should you hold your eyes? Yeah. Let's get back on it. We got off again. All right. I'm sitting on the couch. I chase a four and a three-year-old all day.

I'm sitting on the couch. No, I think she's playing the game that she usually plays. Like, she's just got this enact ability to, you know, socialize and interact with people and get them to trust her and like her. her and like her and she's so like giggly and laughing and just like such great energy and good vibes that you just you can't hate her. So we've seen

over these six or however many seasons of Survivor that she's been on, she charms everyone around her, makes everybody love her and then cuts their throats. Why are they falling forward again? Why does anyone fall for her? She's so nice. Like you just can't.

Anyone does like that. I don't know. anybody would fall for that. So anyone who goes after Surrey gets acts. You don't want to go after Surrey. I'm nervous for Dee, honestly.

Dee is coming out hard swinging. She also looks a bit hypnotized while she's saying she wants to vote off Sarie, but she's like, I love her. She said she had a friend who said to her, hey, make sure you don't work with Surrey.

Who's this person? Why are you, she's not playing the game. It's like, why would you, like, why would you even trust that? Like, you're going to be in the moment. Mel. I told my friend that before he went and played with Sarie, and he's been, like, cursed by the Survivor Gods ever since. Yeah.

Although I will say, since I did play with her that first time, like, she's so crafty. You really can't keep her around for too long because she just. Now you sound like Mel. Well, no. Yeah, you sound like, are you Mel? No. Okay. I would have to get off the job.

I'm just saying I love her, but you have to be very careful of her. You have to be very strategic. No, anytime Surrey is playing, you want her as your number one ally. You want to be on her side. Absolutely. Parv, did you talk at all with Surrey before she played in season 50? And did you, did you, I don't know if she asks her advice or do you like to give people advice? I just really pumped her up with challenges.

And I said, you got this. You have trained now five seasons of Survivor. You're going out for your sixth season. And you are going to destroy the competition. You can win challenges, get people on your side. I said, get an idol. You need an idol. She's like, I don't know.

I said, you can get an idol. You can do it. She's like, you think so? I was just really hyping her up. Now, you two on the Villains Tribe also played with Coach, back for Coach 4.0 this season. I'd love to get your feelings on what do you think of this new coach that's come back? Actually, yeah, all three of you played with coach. Yeah. He's pretty honorable. Oh, so much integrity. You know, he's such a character. Like, when you're

on the island with him and you're so, like, lethargic and weak and, like, you just have no sense of family on. He's just like a, like, just a nice, you know, he just, you know, he just, you know, he just makes you laugh and he's just like what are you saying like the stories that he tells you don't even know what he's talking about or if he they're real stories or if he's making them up but you just he makes you feel at home oh now daniel in addition to playing with coach you've actually acted with coach oh yeah 180 can you tell the difference between the authentic coach the player and coach the thespian oh my god um yeah that was an experience he yeah that was the first film that i ever worked on And he asked me if I wanted to.

And I was in acting classes at the time. And so I was like, sure. He asked me if I wanted to do the film with him. And he honestly wasn't that much different than when he played Survivor. It was very like, it felt like it felt right. I was like, oh, yeah, this is you. This is really who you are. The role he was born to play.

He's a man of honor and integrity. And we love that about coach. I am living for the coach Ozzy drama. Yeah. Love it. What about that? Do you see a difference between Ozzy and Oscar? It's the hair, I think, mostly.

Yeah, I don't know about that hair. Other than that, pretty much same gameplay. I know, I would say, he did surprise us tonight with his boat. I thought he was going to stick with, like, keep the tribe strong kind of dude play. Yeah. But he switched it up. Okay, so we're switching it up, too,

because we're going to, we've got a fun format here tonight, and we're going to bring out some more guests and we're so honored to have here an incredible podcaster in his own right, of course, from Pod Save America. John Lovett is here. Oh, my God.

Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. How are you? Okay.

Hi, hi, hi, everybody. It's great. I think it's good that you finally have my perspective. on Survivor. We have just so many great players up here all together. Everybody who knows a thing or two about how to play Survivor. Hi.

How are we doing so far, John? What? Like just as a live show? Yeah. You're doing a fantastic job. Look at how great a time, everybody. he's having. And I gotta say, like, doing comedy while previews for CSI Miami are going on,

is no easy feet to keep everybody engaged. I think you're doing an amazing job. Can I give you maybe some podcasting tips? Sure. Just a little bit less of the, you know, the yappy, yappy. Can I just say, here's, you know what I love about Survivor 50? It's like every person brings the energy of the era they originally, played. It has been so long since you had the kind of guy on Survivor that's like, hey,

just a little piece of advice. I don't know if you know this, but you're a woman. You're a woman. And so that's, it's bothering some of the people. So this tribe has two, this tribe, look, I love our tribe. We have people and we have women. And, and that makes it hard Because some of the people are finding the women a little bit. I don't know what it is. It's something like, your voice to me is worse. I mean, even just like seeing you, I was like, wait a second. Why were you a villain?

It's like, oh, right, you were a woman. Not wrong. You know, Stephen, what I really thought was fun about that moment. I felt like that in that moment, I felt like that coach felt like that he had become the Tyson. Right. That was a full circle moment. Let me bring it in. I'm going to give you some advice now. And Tyson's advice to him was like, take the feather out of your hair.

Stop being so ridiculous. And his advice to Chrissy was like, keep it down. And then meanwhile, Chrissy is the only one who massaged his calf when he was nearly dying out in the ocean. A lot to think about. It's a lot to think about. Never touch coach is the lesson learned. I kissed him. Seriously, though.

You've gotten a massage. Oh, yeah, Coach was very massage forward. Strong hand. Yeah, yeah. Like, really, like, yeah. John, what did you think of at tribal council when Mike White was telling the story and we gave a metaphor?

And then Christian, so rudely, interrupted Mike White. And Jeff rightfully dressed down, Christian, for interrupting Mike. I would say, I would say just, sort of technically, I think what really was bothering Jeff is it's like, you're fucking up my edit. Like, you just decided I want to use what Mike is doing.

Now I have to use what Christian's doing. This is all going in the fucking show. That's partly what I thought was going on. Boy, don't you all just feel for Stephanie? Imagine, look, Stephanie had this moment where she realized, even though she's done nothing wrong and that she might be removed from her home. And it brought her to tears. And so she looked around for compassion,

and she, like, struggled to find it. And it just made me really feel for Stephanie. Have you ever pooped your pan? Yeah, episode one of season 47 of Survivor. By the way. But why didn't they show that for 10 minutes? Well, yeah. What a show.

I love the way Christian. You were amazing the way he talked about it. It cracked me off. It was so good. Can we bring Christian back up here? I think he's not allowed to. I think Christian's cousin is not allowed to talk about Survivor at this point in time. Christian.

Yeah. John, what else has caught your attention for season 50? Okay, so one thing is I didn't realize they kept making this show after the first episode of season 47. No, jokes aside, I'll just say something true, which is, sincerely, this is the first episode of Survivor I have watched since I was voted off. To be honest, really. I love Survivor, and it's, I was just like, I was on, I was like, you know what, I'm stepping back.

I do things either zero or 100%. I was like, I'm going to zero on Survivor, but it's so fun to see everybody here and to see all of you so enthusiastic about it. This was a great way for me to, like, get back into Survivor. Yeah. You know, so I listened to the podcast you did where you interviewed Cochran a couple of weeks ago, and, of course, interviewed Parvety as well. You talked a lot about Survivor South Pacific. What have you thought about we're reheating the coach and Aussie nachos from way back when?

Look, nachos don't traditionally travel well. No, I love, I think what's amazing about the season is, is what it's bringing back a lot of, I think, the energy people miss from the old era. I think there are people, and I think people have a little bit of rose-colored glasses about what they loved about the old era. I think they forget some of the ways in which the new era has removed some of the slowness that was, I think, we were more accustomed to, and that our adult attention, start, you know, ruined brains wouldn't be able to handle. But I think what it's also doing is there's something that's happened in the newer seasons where it's people who know the game, who know they're playing with people who know the game. And knowing that you're playing with people who know you know the game changes how everyone plays the game.

And this has kind of flipped that and brought back an old school kind of play where it's less about strategy for its own sake and strategy for the purposes of winning not to demonstrate you're the kind of player who knows how to do strategy. And it's just refreshing to be back in that kind of gameplay where it's not the performance of gameplay, but gameplay itself. And that was really, really fun to watch. Yeah. Yeah, Barb. Okay, I have just had like five thoughts at once. I think it's my concussion.

But I'm going to focus on one thought, and that is Emily Flippen. Are we upset? I am loving her chaos and how she. She is now aligned with everyone, but she, like, had this. She got some secret information from an ally at a tribe swap, and then she immediately tells a bunch of people who she doesn't know that she's mad at the person who gave her the intel, who is currently on her new tribe.

So was that a good move or a bad move? It's wild, and I am here for it. Because it worked out really well for her. Then suddenly everyone wants to be her best friend. Honestly, I'm like, Emily for president. will vote for her. That's my girl. She's total chaos.

And I feel like if I was out there, I think she would be my best friend. Answery, obviously. Well, what I loved about it was that she did it and then was very quickly like, I've made a terrible mistake. She fessed up. And she gave him like all of the details.

She didn't like... I was mad and I can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. And who hasn't been there? No, and she's fully accepted for. and embraced and I love to see it. Because everyone is just crying a lot on the beach. And they're like, does anyone like me? Does anyone want to be my friend?

And Emily, it's just like, I'll be your friend. Let me give you a big hug. I don't know how I feel about you or if I'll keep you around in the game. Well, she leads with no, nobody likes you. Nobody wants to be your friend. But I'm here for you. Yeah, she's like nobody wants to be your friend, but I love you. The game begins in three, two, two.

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Yes, how are you? No, stay, no, stay, stay, stay, stay. No, stay, stay, stay, stay. Okay? I thought we were getting voted out. I know, should we leave? Does anybody want Parvany to leave yet? Okay.

Okay. All right. Okay. All right. Here is Hannah and David. How are you? We're great. It's so cool to be back here in this 900-person live show.

Yeah. Not to jinx anything. I feel like the, it's been six years ago tonight. We did the last show before COVID. March 11th, 2020. A night just like to Matt. I was sitting in the audience of like 900 people, but I was safe because I didn't touch anybody.

Yes, we were like, should we hand the microphone to each other or should we Purell first? That was six years ago tonight, but that was North Hollywood. John, everything's going okay now. We don't need to worry about anything in the world. Triggering, I think, for John. Let's just keep going.

Yeah. He's sitting very good. Okay. Now, David, your buddy, Rick Devons, is back. Dund, dun, dun, dun, dun, do that. Yeah, no, it's so great to see him back. He's my work husband. And I was just talking to Christian. His two work husbands are here tonight. Are you jealous? You know, I kind of am. Is that bad?

Yeah. No, I was texting with Rick. I'm really excited. It's such a great season. It's awesome to see him again. Did you give Rick any advice before season 50? Do you know, he didn't even tell me he was playing? Like, what the hell? And when I played 38, Aubrey didn't tell me either. Like, what, what, anyway, I didn't tell her either, I guess. Rick told me, David.

Sorry? Rick told me. He did? Yeah. Come on. Yeah, from the end. Okay, so I'm on the bottom, clearly. Parv, should they have had any edge of extinction on season 50 with all these people?

Absolutely. Get him out there, make him suffer. I heard someone on this show say, I didn't come here to suffer and work hard. Didn't someone say that in the beginning of the episode? Yeah. John, did we screw up in the survivor community and not really mobilize the survivor fans

to vote the way we wanted them to? What are you taking issue with? What are you not like? You know what? I actually, I have an issue. Well, that wasn't the one of the things they voted on. But I would say, uh, I think it's false. You miss fire tokens.

I think they lie. No, that wasn't on the ballot either. Uh, but, but I think, uh, I would have voted giving them rice. Uh, I think that most of the people that I talked to in the survivor fan community would have said give them rice. Don't make them earn the supplies, even though we did get the coach and Ozzy drama out of that. Uh, but they seemed a little surprised that there was a tribe swap.

There were all the things that were voted on. Wait, didn't everyone vote for them to have rice? I could have sworn the votes, right? Yeah. I was like, is there? Interference. John, you seem a horrifying about something. Stop the counting. Stop the counting.

So this thing is rigged. Sees the voting machines. They were supposed to get rice. Wait, who voted for Jeff to do a rap? Jeff voted for Jeff to do a rap. That was a, that was autocracy, I think. That was, that was a... Is this a new thing for him?

Do you think he's going to do this every time? time. It seems like it's quite frequent now. It seems like he got really into it. When he retires from hosting Survivor, he's a rapper. He's starting that career launching it hard now. Rapper Jeff Proops? Would you go to his show?

I mean, if he had a full-on rap show, I mean, I guess I would have to check out. You'd podcast about it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hannah, do you have a review on the rap that Jeff did? Oh, I loved it as much as the Jeff Prope show.

itself, the famous talk show. Live like you're dying, right? We don't need them to suffer by like no rice because they're torturing each other emotionally out there. Like the way Riz God is just like, is this your trauma? It was just great. It was great. Oh my God, Charlie's face. The shots of Charlie's

eyes. So, yeah, he did seem to be like, I'm going to work with Charlie. He wants a redemption story. But then he made up of a a lie. And John, I know you didn't watch Survivor 49, but he lied about what he actually did with his jury vote. And the lie was what triggered Charlie, where the truth is he really did vote for his loyal friend, I think, right? Well, he voted for Savannah, but he said, so Sophie was his life best friend. Yeah, he said he voted for his friend, right? Yeah, well, he said Sophie was his best friend, but that he vote, but that he didn't vote for her. Yeah. Yeah. So he doesn't

deserve to have another jury vote. Was that a lie? Was that, you know what? Honestly, Survivor 49, and I was like, John, did you even watch that? Maybe, do I have it wrong? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what?

With all due respect, to Survivor 49. There's 50 seasons, what is? I thought he was, like, telling a fake story. Also, why did Hugh lie and say he had an extra vote, knowing full well, Ozzy was with him on the island when he lost his vote, and Ozzy knows he doesn't have a vote at all? That's a really good.

point because I was like, oh, this is actually a good lie that Q told, but that I forgot that Ozzy was also there. Yeah, but Ozzy's not telling anybody anything. Well, we didn't see it, but I bet he did. Yeah, Ozzy's like, I had the extra vote. I haven't seen Ozzy's like, look, I got strategy. I'm going to tell you something I know. What did you think about Ozzie giving his extra vote to Surrey? I love that move. And I

I love her being so pumped to have an advantage. This is what I told her to do. I said, get it. So you like it from Ozzy. Obviously you like Surrey accepting it, but you like Ozzie giving it. No, that's stupid. Don't give away your extra vote. But we do know Ozzy,

historically has not played advantages or idols well. So fine, give him away. Maybe that's the better option. Well, let's talk about the Boomerang Idol. Probably go home with it in his pocket. The Billy Elish Boomerang Idol. I'm sorry. Thank you. Can I just say, coming back to Survivor and everyone's suddenly referring to the Billy

Isish boomerang idol. Like, I feel like I'm in like a parallel universe. Like, what the fuck is happening? Like, why is it just part of the show now? I genuinely like, it's branded Billy Ilish. Like, what? Like, is it a sponsor thing? Does she involved?

Was she, did she appear in the first episode? It seemed like that she was supposed to tell people to watch Survivor. if they did the idol, but I don't know if that happened. I don't see the confusion. It's amazing. Everything should have a celebrity name. It should be like Barack Obama's tribal council. Like, we need to lean into this.

The confusion is what... I love working in... More names, not less name. I can't wait to watch them freak out over Mr. Beast. Like, yeah, that, get ready. I did think it was funny that, because every time they have to say it in the confessional, you hear them like really have to say the Billy Elish boomerang idol. And Surrey, in her confessional tonight, the way that she was doing it,

it seemed like that this might have been like take nine or ten for Surrey. She was like, yeah, so Devin told me about the Billy Eilish Boomerang Idol. like very performative of the Billy Elish Boomerang Idol. Now, do you think that Charlie was actually so triggered that he found out that Billy Elish was the person who contributed to idol and not Taylor Swift? You see his face? He's so stoked.

Charlie is fully traumatized this episode. I am worried about him. Someone check on Charlie? What an incredible scene that was. Like, the fact that the cameraman just was there and had the presence of my life. So funny. Just so funny.

I loved this episode. I enjoyed it start to finish. There were tears. There was concussions. There was crazy people making up lies. Mike White, Q, the Q Mike White scene. Where Mike is like, I'm going to vote for Q, but I'm not going to tell him. And then Q is like, vote for me.

Can I? Stop. Can I talk about a small thing? Okay. So someone says our tribe has brains. and they show Aubrey. Then our tribe has Braun and someone strong. And then everything in between.

And they went to Tiffany. And Tiffany, is that... That is not... It's not an insult, but it's certainly not a compliment. How to... Because it was made in the... It wasn't... The show did that.

The different... You know... Woman. But it was just sort of like, what is it? All women. Interesting. I just, I noticed it. Okay.

Okay. On that note, okay, Parvety and Danielle, thank you so much for being here with us. You know what? We only have so many couches. Is Cochran? Do we leave now? We got to get so many more people. I'll allow it.

Okay, we're getting cute. We'll get off the couch one more time. We'll give up a Parvini, Danielle. You guys. Okay, well, okay. I'm going to be signing. We're signing books and taking photos out here, so come by me. Here with us to join us from Survivor 48 we have with us.

Here comes Shaheen, Thomas, and Say. The fact that I'm taking a microphone. I'm staying here. I don't know where I'm going. John, does this what you do on, love it or leave it? We have other guests come on and other guests leave? Yeah, I think the key thing is to have people. should just find out

what the show is on the show. On the show. I like it. It's exciting. It's live. Yeah. It's beautiful. It's like the survivor experience. That's right. I've lasted longer on this show. First of all, the fact that

I just took a microphone from poverty is unnecessary. I want to just acknowledge that I have no business holding a microphone over her, but I am thrilled to be here. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. And then also the fact that I'm sharing a couch with John Lovett, who I've been listening to on Potsave America for a forever. I'm a speech and debate nerd. I've been the coach of a speech and debate team,

and my team listens to him religiously. So thank you for coming out. I appreciate him. Very nice. Very nice of you to say. It was really luck that you got her mic in this couch. really. Really, not since Coach met Joe, have I heard such accolades. The 48 people, what did you think about were coach thanking Joe for bringing honor and integrity back to Survivor?

You know, I'm a little speechless. Best choice they could have made. Yeah. I just feel like it kind of proved me right, if I'm being honest. Do you know what I mean? Vindication. He was our sweet Titanic

that you can't turn last minute. And, like, the fact that even coach is, like, honor and integrity, it's, like, your entire vibe. Like, you can't lie to Joe. He's going to lose his fucking mind. Hannah? I just, like, where was Joe when I was having my panic attack is my question. Yeah. Yeah, nobody gives a better hug than Joe, for sure.

It is an incredible hug to get. It was one of those things that I was bummed about. I don't know if you guys know this, but you're not allowed to cuddle on Survivor anymore. Did you know this? Because men ruined everything. And so now that men have ruined everything, I come down to the hotel lobby and I see Joe and I think, man, I really would like to cuddle that man.

Wouldn't you? And I see him and I think, man, I really would like to cuddle that man. Wouldn't you? And I was able to cuddle neither. Do you know that Joe and I did cuddle? That's bullshit. Yeah. I knew it.

I knew it! The night before Kyle and Camilla voted me out instead of you. Thanks. Thanks, Camilla. Yeah, thanks Camilla. Yeah. I do love Camilla. I love Kyle too.

No, that night was really, really cold. Do you remember? Because we didn't have fire. Yes. And Joe snuggled me all night long. Wow. Production had you up. Shaheen, were you relieved that Genevieve didn't go through your bag?

Or I'll go through, go through, go. Do you go through, that Genevieve could have gone through Kyle's bag? Yeah, that was a good move by her to not go through Kyle's bag. And also hilarious that she tried to kind of do the same thing that I was trying to do at the time, which was build a relationship by putting everyone in on a lie together, which is we all are going to lie about having gone through this bag. But that's a big risk. And so it's surprising that it hasn't come out yet.

It hasn't come out yet, right, that she went through her bag. Does anybody know? Does she know that her bag was gone through? I don't think so. No. So she did a better job of it than I did. She was more thorough. So we had this big scene between Rick.

So you were just talking about Joe as the ship that you can't turn. And I'm curious, like, for your guys' perspective, like, with this huge scene with, like, Rick and Joe. And obviously, you know Joe intimately, but you're also saying, like, Joe can't be moved, you know? And in a way, maybe that suggests some empathy with Rick. Like, where do you guys who have played with him? come down on that on that conflict i think i've made myself clear about the whole thing i i think that

joe is predictable i think he is someone that early especially you want someone who's going to be loyal and so you can you can work with joe and the idea that you can't work with joe was like i don't understand that now if you want to play a fast and loose game like devons wants to play that's not going to fly. Those two things, he's playing fast on this. We even saw it with Christian and Emily, who are, I mean, Christian who was in the alliance with Devons, right? Emily does this thing where she gives away the farm

and Christian kind of just goes, okay, I guess we're still, I guess we're still working together. That would not have worked, I don't think, with Jeff. David, you want to rebuttal? Well, no, I just want to say that, like, I mean, first of all, it's so weird, like, hearing people say Devons and Jeff say Devin's because I say Rick I said Rick out there but no

I mean you're saying that's how that's how he I guess this is brand now he's Devons but the thing that I really experience out there when I play with Rick is that he was very emotional he's an emotional player but he just needs a little time and then he can get over it so I think he can pivot and it's not a done deal

I would say the same about Joe he is a very emotional player too and I wonder like I think that that has to be necessary for the blow up that we saw you don't get that blow up with one person who's just like calm, cool, collected, and not like that. It's because they both have those similarities. And that's kind of the interesting thing

about it. They both see the game in such different ways, and yet they're having to share a log and figure out who they're supposed to vote out. I'm curious about your perspective here on the Billy Elish Boomerang Idol. Is it frustrating to you to see idols that are sent from one camp to another and not advantages that you

can physically outrace someone to grab? I wish they got to chase each other a little bit more. That would have been epic. But I would have hated to give away my idol after I just found it. But I don't know if I would have preferred them to make it harder for you to find the idol. Like I did, mine was so freaking hard. So maybe it is better to give it away and play with somebody. But I would have given it to somebody who's getting voted off next. Like I would have given it to Q. Thomas, can you talk about what has been the music industry's

reaction to the Billy Elish boomerang idol? And why wasn't it the SIA idol? Honestly, tusha. I do wish Billy would engage. Like, still nothing, right? Not yet. Nothing still. Because, like, when she was taught, she did that interview

about loving to see us suffer. I was like, great, okay. And when I heard about the Billy Eilish boomering idol, which I feel like you legally have to say the full time. Yes. I was really excited to, like, see some real involvement because I forgive me but like not that stoked about

Zach Brown humming toward us like visually, emotionally, whatever this is going to do but Billy I think it would have been fun and it is kind of I think it's a little sad I think it's a missed op

InnerScope I love you but if it was Sony they would have done it better we work with Interscope Olivia's on Interscope yeah we're pro Interscope but I'm just saying this is a missed off I think it's a mistop

It's almost like the Billy Elish Boomerang Idol is asking, what am I made for? John. I just want to say that that was very good. Thank you. I thought you did a good job. That was a good joke. Yeah.

All right. Well, John, thank you so much for being here with us. Oh, thanks for having me, everybody. Okay. It was. All right. See you on the traders. All right.

It was such an honor. Thank you. All right. Bye. Bye, everybody. Okay. Bye. Thanks, John. Bye, bye, bye, bye.

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But I just want to make sure that you guys, is there anything else you wanted to say? It's just so fun to be back here. It's so great. Nice to make sure. Thank you. Great to see. see you. I die on the White Lotus. Hand his shirt safe. You're listening to the podcast.

Okay. Okay. Let's bring out here. Okay. We have the great Zach Werberger. And you won. Hello. Yes, absolutely.

How are you guys doing? I'm doing great. Oh my gosh. We replaced John Lovett and Hannah. What a downgrade. I don't know if I feel cool enough to be up here. What the heck? Hi, everybody. Joanne, can you correct the record on

Rizzo's story on who is his best friend and who he voted for? They all hated me, so I don't know. I assume, like, Rizzo and Savannah were besties. Yeah. Don't tell that the soap. So was the Sophie thing a lie?

I don't know. That's very interesting. would he lie about that? Savannah's already been voted off at that point, right? Like, so it's not like he's trying to hide his relationship with Savannah. I thought he was trying to hide it. Yeah. That's why he said that. But it's swap. So she's gone. Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah.

Sure. Yeah. Zach, how are you feeling about Survivor 50? I'm really loving it. I've been, I've been excited since Rick Devin's told me he was playing, honestly. Like, I just, I knew this was going to be a good season. I did relate a lot to Charlie, too, because I really do have, I have trauma as well. Yes.

What was your trauma? And it's crazy because it's like, I was only there for so little. Like, how could I solve trauma? If I do. When I see someone who's not on Jonathan's tribe, yes, that is what's giving me trauma because it is playing the game on cheat codes. And I really felt that way from the moment I saw him in the elevator. So you didn't specifically mean trauma about Maria.

You meant some just like generalized trauma. Oh, Maria is. She hasn't done anything to me. Yeah. I also will say I was, I've never felt more redeemed than why. Watching Emily Flippin' play and thinking to myself, when I play ClockTower with her, I'm not crazy. She is, but what's so amazing about Emily,

and I feel this way with Clock Tower too, is I'll give her some info. She will immediately tell everyone and think I'm suspicious because I told her info, but then she comes back and apologizes. And we should add relevant, Emily has the highest win rate of anyone in our Clock Tower She does. There's something special with that where it's you screw someone over and then immediately

apologize and they're like, I guess I trust you. Fine. I love that. Yeah. Joanne, what's been your reaction to season 50? I mean, it's so weird being so close to like a legend season. Like I know like 49, like I feel like even Jeff was, like, yeah, yeah, let's wrap this up. But, like, no, like, I think it's so cool watching 50s, seeing Surrey and Ozzy and coach, like, not to lie, a little bit of FOMO, but, like, oh, my gosh, it's so good. You know, I don't think we've talked enough about Q going home

because I did not think coming into tonight that Q was going to be in danger at all. And I feel like we're really going to feel his loss as the season goes on. This is like the, with all due respect to the first couple of boots, this is the one that I feel like we're really going to miss because Q brings so much to every season that he's on. He went out in a way that I think he would enjoy, though.

I feel like this is Q's brand, which is vote for me. Yeah. And that's how he went out. He finally went out the way he really wanted. He went out doing the thing he loved, is what I'm trying to say, which is telling people to vote for him. And they did. They did.

So congratulations, Q. You did it, buddy. Took you two seasons, but you did it. He also did something remarkable in the new era, which is breaking the fourth boot gay curse. Oh. Wow. Oh, is this only something that I think about? Not you guys.

I was like, what? I was like, it's Ozzie or Mike tonight. I was like, that's it. The gods have said this. And then it was, so maybe Q's not telling us something. Wow. Or is it that we're now officially in a different era? Is the new era now? Is that the new era thing? Just let me have a moment with Q. Okay.

Hey, I would not stop you. So when Q ends up, he looks like he's doing great when he first arrives because he has Stephanie and then he talks to Ozzy. They rekindle the Exile Island Alliance. And then it looks like they have Emily flipping for a minute before then she starts to talk with Angelina and then she gets pulled in by the David versus Goliath 3. Well, can we talk about that weird moment where like Emily says, so she gives, you know, this information of the idol, they're over the moon. Cues like, you can eat at my house now, you know, like Stephanie is excited. They're

welcoming her and she's like, and that's when I got suspicious of them. Like, what, like, what happened there? Because like literally it was the fact that they were so welcoming that illed her out. Well, I think what you have to think about is you're like, all right, you're Emily, right? It's like, all right, here's the plan. Emily, it's going to be me, Ozzie, Stephanie, or going to Rocks for Q. That was the plan because it was three votes.

They didn't have a Q vote. So there was no other play for her. I mean, it was literally just going to be the David versus Glyath three or go to Rocks for Q. But she doesn't know Q doesn't have a vote. I mean, if Ozzy's playing any kind of game, he'd be like, by the way, we go down this road. This is kind of what's going to happen here.

So there really wasn't any other choice for her. Would be kind of interesting if Ozzy didn't say anything to Emily and tried to use, instead of using that information, like, hey, I'll jump with you, let me be with you. And I wonder if that's a risk that he was willing to take because I think Ozzy has to see that he, that that's a dangerous place to be is against those three. Against the three is a dangerous place to be.

I'm just so tired of talking about the Met. It's just so male-heavy. Who do you want to talk about? The women, the women are kicking absolute butt. And I thank you. And release the Tiffany. Like, all the girls are carrying, Surrey, D, Tiff.

Like, let's talk about the girls. Ozzy, cool, whatever. But in conjunction to Surrey. We were talking about Emily. Joe, in conjunction to, who's Joe working with men? Okay, can I ask you, what do you think about the Genevieve,

versus Aubrey. I know. I hate Women on Women Crime, but... You wanted this. And I also loved Women on Women Crime in my season, so I don't even know what I'm talking about. But Aubrey and Genevieve is interesting, okay? Because Aubrey has always been suspicious of Genevieve, and I'm not going to lie to you.

I would be suspicious of Genevieve. She's pretty, she's funny, she's finding things. Like, those are all reasons that you need to go home. So I'm Team Aubrey. Okay. Did Genevieve overplay that? Did, like, telling literally everybody? Was that, like, too much?

Did Genevieve misplay, or did she just get unlucky in that, like, Tippettardi, you know? We don't talk about luck enough. I think she just got unlucky in that case. Yeah. I mean, Joe changed coach's life. He brought it back. He brought it back.

Like, that's the kind of bond that you can't break. Yeah. Okay. All right. To our friends from Survivor 48, thank you so much for being with us. Appreciate you coming. Thank you, everybody.

Here, Joanne, why don't you consolidate over here? And let's bring in some friends from Survivor 45. Whoa. It's Brandon, Kendra, and Brando, and Austin. Both? No. Yes, what's going on? We're big on hugs in the new era, so let us just all hug.

Big hugs for everybody. Everybody on the podcast loves it. Yes, okay. How are you all doing? Great. How are you doing, Rob? Yeah, this is so fun. This is really fun.

Yes. Okay. I'd love to hear a little bit about the Survivor 45 representation so far. It's been so cool, especially seeing Emily Flippin in the middle of a swap. I mean, come on.

With the three of us on this couch, what more do you want to see, you know? It's been really funny tonight because we're like, oh my gosh, we're seeing her do it again, just in the middle, playing the middle. but I'm so proud of her.

It's so fun to watch your friends play Survivor. You don't realize it, and then it's happening. And she's just playing her own game, and I'm really, really proud of her for that. As messy as it is, that's why we love her. Come on. Come on. Is she playing a different game than she was playing before?

I mean, you saw her early days on Lulu. Lulu? Yes. Messiest mess tribe of all time. Is this game, is her game changed? No, not particularly. What this is more reminiscent of than my time on Survivor is the time that all of us have played like Mafia with her

and just an Airbnb, like during one of these things. Because she doesn't necessarily go for optimal gameplay in Mafia. Like she doesn't care what role she is. She doesn't care what role everybody else is. She just wants to make it fun and like confuse everybody, which is like that's my friend. That's my friends do it. It's super fun.

Is that why she was okay with going after Q on this vote? is Q occupying her lane? It's interesting, but I also thought, like, Q didn't come off as, like, for what I think we all expected in terms of Q's chaos level, going into Survivor 50, he was, like, crushing it, like, for, like, on the original tribe and even a little bit here, I didn't expect him to come in and be so, like, game-focused. I've got to ask about D, because, you know, D is really worried here that Surrey is too charming. Now Dee herself as someone who has been considered too charming by some.

Like what is your, is this a sort of like rivalry of extremely charming players? Like what's the, what's the, you know? I don't think Dee's that charming to be honest. I don't know. A little overrated there, you know. I love this. That's so funny. I will say I love Dee talking about her intuition because that is one of her strongest things. She's like, yeah, I, you can see this like glaze go over her eyes.

It was hilarious. She's like, I love Ceri. I don't know what to do. And then she checks herself and comes back in as like, you know what, I am going to know what to do. And I think that's why we see deep back on the beach again. Now, do any of you know who this male person is? What, Mel?

Yes, Brandon, you do? You do? I have hung out with Mel many times. She has put on her Instagram story within the last hour. She has seen your messages. You have made it loud and clear how you feel. She is apologetic, I believe. But if you go on D's Instagram story right now,

she did reshare a compilation of the many hate tweets that have been sent towards D. But no, but she shouldn't do that. Like, sometimes it's warranted to do that. I wanted to be clear. I told D to go for Surrey in terms of working with her times 1,000. You know, you want to go to the person

who, like, is going to be the central narrator on the tribe. So if you're on a tribe with Surrey, you can see it with, like, Izzy is like, Izzy and Surrey now have this lifelong thing. Go for Surrey. if you're on the tribe with her. Don't go for her, but go for her. Yeah.

I still think there's like a 50-50 chance that D's going to be voted out. And D's like, you know what? Just make it me. I just, please. Tonight was the blindfold challenge, which many of you know, I'm not a fan. No.

You know, we get some cheap yucks of people getting concussions, but I just, I'm surprised that we've never lost. lost anybody like on the blindfold challenge. I got to say, I really felt like we were reheating Bruce's nachos when we were watching movie hit his head. We actually did lose someone during a blindfold challenge.

Yes? The one and only Russell Swan? Yeah, but that wasn't necessarily because he was blindfolded. Didn't he, that was the puzzle though. Did he, when he was blindfolded, right? I think that was heat exhaustion. Now we're being tick-tack about me being in Joanne. The fact that he didn't have a blindfold on, it didn't affect his heat.

Have they done a lot of blindfold challenge in the new era? No, even if they've done it back. I don't think we had one at all. They did it on 42. It was the second challenge. That's old school. Like, I feel like that the second challenge is often a blindfold challenge. They usually do it around that spot.

It's so funny. In the 50 compilation they did in the start of episode one, they have that shot, which is so visceral in my mind. and I'm glad that we're all seeing it again of spent, or Raymond, I'm sorry, getting hit in the shin with that piece and screaming, which is, oh my God, that's like rough, you know what I mean? Anybody have a take on the rough?

Did we vote for that? Did we vote for that? Did you vote for that? So you guys have all, I mean, you five of you have played with, you know, winners who were on this season. I'm curious if you had a sense if they went in knowing, you know, that there could be an extra target there. And if there was like, if they were trying to, like,

correct for that and, like, how that affected their strategy going in. Like, Joanne, like, what did you? Did you talk to Savannah at all beforehand? No. Yeah, did you talk to Savannah during your Survivor season? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, we had many of talks about bags and water bottles and stuff.

But no, I didn't get a chance to, I think, actually, can we just clap it up for Savannah? I think she did really good. Yeah. I think she did really good based off of the target. I can't even imagine, like. How about Riz God? How do you think he's doing? Riz God.

Let's clap it up for Riz God, too. I mean, yeah. Yo, like... Really funny episode with him tonight. That was amazing. Charlie snapshot in my mind forever. Yeah. The crowd had...

You all had such a big reaction to Charlie saying that he was going to vote out Rizzo because of... That was a big mistake. Rob, I feel like it's such a backwards effect because I think most people have this weird thing with Rizzo. They're like, oh, I hate him at first. And then they kind of like, oh, he's not that bad. We saw that with Kobe. Now we see the opposite with Charlie. He was like, oh, Billy Elish.

And he's like, wait a minute. He gave me a- last night. Yeah. Which was a cool flashback. Can I also just say, I think if I were Sia, I would be so offended that she is probably given out upwards of a million dollars to this show.

Absolutely. And the moment she stopped donating she was dust. They're naming things after Billy Elish. They're casting Taylor Swift's best fan. And how many chickens have they brought back? And they brought back 25 chickens. It's going to replace the firemaking challenge

who can prep and kill this chicken. But not the chicken we're all hoping for. Do you eat chicken Morris? Oh. Yeah. Damn. Okay. All right. So we have a treat here for everybody here tonight.

Is Eric there? Is Eric backstage? Are we ready? Let's bring back our great friend Eric Barger. Oh, Eric. Woo. Eric who sang the Survivor Know It All's theme song live as we had Stephen back here with us. But he's here to play another tune for us. Take it away, Eric.

Well, I started with the wrong horn. Many moons ago, a great and wise wizard named Stephen Fishy. Yes. Created an award. Oh, God. That would serve as a symbol of survivor greatness. And it was known as the Fisci. It's time to see who passed the test.

Who Steven Fishback thinks like survivor the best. If you don't get it, don't get pissy. It's time to award the Fishing. Thank you. That's so beautiful. I wish we could turn the volume way up on that. Thank you, Eric. Thank you, Eric.

Okay. Well, live musical intro for the fishy. How about this? Oh, my gosh. Well, I want everybody's opinion here, because I have a strong opinion. I don't know if we have time for everybody's opinion. Yeah. Can I ask a question?

Oh, yeah. What's a fishy? Oh, that's beautiful. Don't hate on me. I'm being curious. It's a very... I don't understand it. I just want to know.

broken system that rewards losers for losing. Okay. I heard he only gives them to his friends. I don't know. I got to vote Mike White. All right. Is it bad I want to say, Emily? Is it bad?

I mean, she did a lot wrong, but she wasn't going home. All right. Anybody else? Anyone? I also have to say Emily. I feel like that whole thing where she, you know, kind of blew up Christian and Rick's idol, I feel like she was getting like, She was almost making up for, like, the fact that when she was working with me and Drew and kind of got screwed later on,

I feel like she was like going extra and just blew up from that. But she was able to somehow turn that blunder into getting everyone on her side. So, Emily. I mean, call that 45 bias. I'm also team Emily. The girl has only missed one tribal council so far in two seasons of Survivor. She's on a hard streak. Never a break.

Yeah. Can I throw out a name that hasn't been said yet? So, Emily was working with Q and Ozzy until she had a conversation with Angelina. And Angelina and she hit it off. She's like, oh, my God, I could work with the David versus Goliath three. Yeah. I made a terrible mistake. I need to tell Christian what I did.

I want to talk through that because I am thinking Mike White because I thought Mike had such an incredible episode. Mike rejoins basically with all of, what he said are all of his friends on the island, the David versus Goliath 3 and Ozzy, whom he knows from Jolina. And Mike is the first person to throw out Q's name. He tells everyone he's voting for Stephanie,

which I thought was really smart, like get all the heat on Stephanie. And he does it in this sort of like completely disarming way. He was like, well, I'm just going to vote for you, guy. And then it turns out it's like all a ruse and he's just like getting the votes on Hugh. and then he gets Q in fact to offer himself to be voted for which he agrees to and I think like Mike is in the best position after this because he's got his three he's got

you know getting rid of Q here like brings Ozzy basically closer to him right because Ozzy is like his buddy too but like Ozzy was sort of like tempted by you know like the Q bromance and now like he's he's got to come back to Mike and so I felt like the move was Mike's idea it really benefits him strategically it puts him in the best position that he could be in it. But I like Angelina too. Like talk me through it. Like where are you on the mic?

No, I think that ultimately there was more there with Mike White. I think that Angelina started it, but I think that Mike directed it. And so I agree. I concur. A fishy for Mike White. Fishing for Mike White.

The other thing too is like, Angelina is like Mike's David versus Goliath Shield in a way. You know, like they're all fixated on voting Angelina out. They're not talking about voting Mike White out. So the longer Angelina's in the game, like the more like,

you know, he's got some protection. Okay. Great job, Stephen. Great live, fishy for everybody. Okay. Joanne and Zach, anything else you want to get off your chest tonight? I just want to let Mike White know that I also voted for you, so just keep that in mind in the future.

And I got to say, Mel, where were you for Big Brother 25? Couldn't tell any of them. But thank you so much for having me, and it's just incredible to be here. These are the best shows ever. Thank you so much, Zach. Thank you, Jowant. Just hobnobbing with the glitter audio. Can we just hop it up for Rob and Stephen being here?

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Thank you guys both. We've got here with us also a real treat here with us. Two old friends are back with us. It's Bradley Clygie and a new dad, Max Dawson. Yes. Hey. Yes. How are you?

What's going on? Yes. Hey, Bradley, what's up? Max 2 was with us back on March 11th, 2020. Yeah. Remember that? I can't figure out if we should do this more often or if we should never do this. Yeah. Good.

I mean, look, so far tonight is going much smoother. Although I do feel a little, I don't know. But thank you for saving the best for last. Yes, the closers. The two most popular seasons of Survivor, well represented here on Season 50, something that they want to remember a lot, Worlds Apart and...

Yeah, Ghost Island. I couldn't even remember. Reverse the curse. I think the Brant Steele has officially broken. Bradley, how are you? I'm great, yeah, thank you. Excited to be back? What's been your reaction to Season 50?

This is actually the first three episodes of Survivor I've seen since I got voted off. Wow. Since you got voted off? Do you know who won your season? It was very close. I think there was a tie, wasn't there? Yeah.

No, so it's been a lot of fun, right? Because I think it's fun because we're watching people that I grew up watching. But then also at the same time, I think we've had more of a throwback to personality-driven survivor, which is my favorite kind of survivor. Max, what's been your reaction to season 50? I, too, have taken a little hiatus. This is the first three episodes in a row. row that I've watched since season 40, and it feels good to be back. I'm loving this season.

So many of my all-time favorites are here. I'm finding myself falling in love with some of the new players, and I just want to give a shout out to Dr. Christian Hubicki, though. He has watching him play as a new dad, as I'm sitting at home watching literally with my daughter in my app who is six weeks old now, which I understand to be the age Christian's son was when he was out there, it really gives new meaning to the eternal question of what are you playing for? What are we playing for? Seeing Christian out there, the joy he plays the game with, the skill, the enthusiasm, and knowing what he has back home has just made it a very emotional viewing experience

for me these last three weeks. Lovely. It's really nice. Can you beat that, Bradley? I listen I just only I live in fear of the day when my daughter finds season 30 episode two on paramount plus HBO Max comcast peacock plus Disney whatever it is well then I could give you some reassurance here as a dad who's further along in this than even Stephen my kids do not have a lot of interest in going back and watching old episodes of Survivor

and also my wife doesn't let them I showed my children that they were like Dad, did you ever win the immunity challenge and I showed them the immunity challenge that I won from Survivor the Amazon and I turned out like, hey watch this guys and they're like, it's a quiz? What? What is this big brother?

And the first question in the quiz was Jeff's like, who in the tribe do you have a crush on. And they're like, oh my God, what is this? Why is he like this? I'm like, look, that's how it was, okay? And they were like, well, this is weird. We don't like this. You got to show them the Coca-Cola machine in the jungle. I feel like kids would get behind that. Nicole said no more Survivor the Amazon. That was it. But they weren't really that interested, to be honest. That's reassuring. I don't need my child seeing my bare ass on television. My partner hasn't even watched. I won't even let her watch. I'm afraid she'll take the child away for me.

Maybe they'll stumble on a YouTube compilation, maybe, but that's about it. The attention span isn't there. Bradley a question? Yes. You famously got to hear the raps of Chris Noble. Oh. You did hear rapping tonight. What do you think is a better piece of music?

Like, what would you listen to sooner with headphones on Spotify? Great question, Brandon. Thank you. Yeah, so I think tonight's probably a better piece of music, but entertainment value, it's Chris Noble all the way. Yeah, he's an absolute legend. You don't want to live with him for a whole week on a beach, but he's great. If you haven't watched a lot of Survivor,

do you think that Jeff has been rapping a lot since you've been gone? Yeah, I'm wondering if this is the new era. Every episode has a rap or something. Yeah. What do you know of the new era? What have you heard? I've heard Eliza say it's not as hard as it was back when we played Survivor. No, I have only respect for anyone who puts themselves out on Survivor.

I think that regardless of what happens in Fiji, the social media environment that these players are existing within is far more harsh than anything we could have ever envisioned or imagined even in the 30s. And so, you know, I hear that the vibes are very different. It's a more upbeat, positive, family-friendly show. They actually talk about the vibes. a lot. And considering what's going on in the world, maybe that's a good thing. Mm-hmm. But still, like, 26 days, it's got to be easier, right?

I mean, I don't know. Brandon, what do you think? Yeah, we were close to 26, right? The first thing I could think of when Jeff was doing his little song and dance for us was, I heard that they're trying to direct this more towards kids. Is that true? Like, the audience of kids? Is that?

Kids love. watching, you know, generational game show hosts rapping. They love that. They love 60-5-0-0-grabbers. I think that he thinks is what the kids want. That's what they like. On the kids argument, I mean, I again, I've said this before, I'm 11 years old watching Randy and Maddie fight over that ball

to put in that little challenge in Gabon. And that was cinema. Shout out to Rizzo. Riz God. So you didn't, you know, the vibe, we love the vibe change. but Survivor has always been for the kids. Can I ask a strategy sort of question? Is that okay?

Sure. So this was the swap, right? And in each of these tribes, there was one person, like, there were like predominantly two groups, and then one person, one solo person. It didn't seem to be an issue at all, right? Like, nobody seemed like worried that Rizzo was the one person from Original Thaw to.

Mike was the one person from Original Kalo, and Joe was the one person from original SELA, which I knew off the top of my head for those listening at home. not yeah but so we have many people on this bench who were swap screwed like is the swap screw no longer a thing like is that not relevant anymore because y'all y'all were all basically swapped i mean like half of you were swap screwed i mean i think there's always a way out of a swap screw if you're a good enough talker um i mean for example emily one of the first things she came to to me to say uh when we swapped onto bella was drew has an advantage um so i knew that

Drew had the safety without power because Emily couldn't stop running her mouth. But you know what? Maybe I was in Q's position because I just couldn't find a way to make it work for me. Yeah, I mean, we were in the exact same position. It was two bellows, two rebus, and then we had Emily in the middle. And I think at least for us, and at least for me and Drew, there was never a thought to send home the person in the middle. It was who can get the person in the middle to be on your side? Because the entire season leading up to that, it was you know, Lulu was getting decimated. So we were thinking it's going to be Rebo versus Bello.

We have to win Lulu. Okay. You know, Stephen, when I was in San Francisco, the last time we did a live show on the West Coast, we had a big announcement. And that announcement was that I was going to join Stephen Fishback as an author. And that my book, The Tribe and the Tribe and the. I have spoken was going to be coming out this May. And I have announcements for you tonight. Stephen, of course, you wrote the amazing forward to this book, but we have been telling people

to pre-order the book. And I've learned from the best when it comes to telling people about pre-ordering the book. So we have a couple of pre-order things that we've been telling people about. I'm very excited to announce tonight that for the pre-order people, the most special people there are, for the tribe and I've spoken. Truly. We have for you a digital bonus chapter

of the tribe and I have spoken that I have taken on the Herculean task of the ultimate survivor rights of passage. A tribute to all of you here, all 751 players in survivor history gone back and written the ultimate survivor rights of passage as a bonus for people who pre-order

the tribe and I've spoken. Wow, yes. How many of them are like, don't remember you? No, we remember all, we remember them all. So that's one thing that we're doing. And then we are also having a very special raffle for everybody who pre-orders the book because all spring we have been all over the place getting every survivor we see to sign one copy of The Tribe and I Have Spoken and that one special

copy is going to go to the winner of the raffle from the pre-orders here for the tribe and I've spoken and to that we ask you worth pre-ordering for Oh, yeah. We also have a raffle that we did here tonight for people. We have a signed poster of everybody that was here on the stage with us. And Stephen, we're going to spit it up, and I'm going to pick out four winners here of this special raffle here tonight. One, two, three, four. Steven, pick one of these people, and they're going to win an extra special prize.

I think it's five here. Let's take one and throw it out. Just one and get it. Throw it in the garbage. Light it on fire. Just into the tree. Okay. Yeah.

It's like me. It's the volcano. And then which is the most special winner? I mean, all four are very special. I just want to you. But this is the most special one. Okay. Yeah.

All right. So we have this signed poster of the tribe and I've spoken. We have for you some raffle winners. 35-9-0-3-5. The people who are listening to the podcast are hating this so much right now. Max, how do I improve this segment? Oh, you invite Corinne on. Okay.

Yeah. She might say that some of the survivors are threes and fours. Is that not on this ticket? 359-050, you're a winner. And 359-048, you're a winner. And. Whoa. Yeah, come on.

Sam Moore. Wow. And one person, you are going to win an advanced cop. of the tribe and I have spoken. You are 359-026. Congratulations. Nobody else has this but you. Rob isabook.com.

Stephen, what a treat this has been to get back together with you for the live show. Are you considering coming out for more after this? No, this is it. One and done. This is really special. I mean, you know, I wanted to be special. Maybe it'll be like how they talk about, like, oh, Survivor, it's like childbirth

after I do it, I want to come back and do it more. Yeah, yeah, no. I mean, you know, no, I'm getting a podcast. Does that sound right with what you've heard? That's what she's already saying. She said, I would do it again in a heartbeat. And I say, I don't know if I would do it again in a heartbeat. But having the child is great.

Being the partner of a pregnant person is very difficult. But we'll talk about that on another episode. Okay. All right. Of course, that's the book. We also want to thank our friends over at Chat BCC. If you're not on chat BCC, what are you doing? You could be hobnobbing with the glitterati

and night after night talking about Survivor. Right here, chat BCC. Thank you so much for all your support here. Rob is a podcast. The QR code is there. If you want to jump on in with us on chat, BCC. All right. Brandon, what else do we need to talk about?

On the audience. Is that okay? So at Steven Fishback's book signing yesterday, I met somebody named Xander. They're 11. They went to the book signing with their dad. I, too, was 11 going to these events with my dad. So Zander, wherever you are in the audience, we're all, we see you, we love you.

Shout out to Zander. You're here somewhere. A young Brandon Donner. He's waving. Look at me. He's waving right there. There we go. Thank you to our amazing panel that's here with us tonight.

Anything else that you all want to add? Before we wrap up, can everyone just snap for me really quick? Yes, yes, third time's the charm. But yeah, Max, Bradley, Kendra, Austin, Brando, Brandon, thank you all so much. Thanks to our incredible guests who are here with us tonight. And I said it before we came out. I really am so appreciative of everybody who comes on out to the shows

and has such nice things to say and all of you that traveled. and came great distances, and it is very inconvenient to go anywhere right now. So thank you so much for coming out. It means the world to us. So really appreciate you. Two things to say. Yes. First, there are copies of my book, Parvitey's book, and Lovell Holder's book,

who wrote the book of Luke, another reality TV theme book, on sale in the lobby. I think they're still on sale in the lobby. There are signed for the most part, I believe. And I think Jeff's book is out there, too. So if you haven't bought any of those, those are available. And most importantly, Rob, this community you have made is so incredible and so special. It is truly the honor of my life to be a part of it. It brings incredible joy to like so many people.

And holy shit, this fucking event is amazing. So thank you for including me. It was an incredible night, Los Angeles. Thank you so much for coming out. If you're watching us and you want to be part of the fun, go to robb's website.com slash events for tickets to, I believe actually Toronto is sold out. New York, May 5th, you still can get tickets. So hope to see you this spring. Take care, everybody. Thank you. Good night.