RHAP: We Know Survivor - Survivor 50 Ep 3 Recap: Maryanne and Omar Takeover

Episode Date: March 12, 2026

Survivor 50 Ep 3 Recap: Maryanne and Omar Takeover Today, while Rob Cesternino and Stephen Fishbach are off hobnobbing with the glitterati in Los Angeles, Maryanne Oketch and Omar Zaheer from Survivor... 42 takeover the podcast to recap Survivor 50 episode 3. To pre-order Rob’s book, The Tribe and I Have Spoken, visit www.robhasabook.com Never miss a minute of RHAP’s extensive Survivor coverage! LISTEN: Subscribe to the Survivor podcast feed WATCH:  Watch and subscribe to the podcast on YouTube SUPPORT:  Become a RHAP Patron for bonus content, access to Facebook and Discord groups plus more great perks!

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Starting point is 00:00:38 Oh my. gosh, I thought we were having the intro. Welcome everybody to the know-it-all's, but we've taken over. Should we do the- I know. Oh, you mean like the know-it-all song? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:51 The smartest guys around. We're all around. They're about to break it down like they want. Yeah, times. But actually, she won it because she stole it for me. They know it all. Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do.
Starting point is 00:01:10 What a day to host the know-it-alls because Jeff famously said this episode that on Survivor, you really haven't played or have a chance to drop your buff until you've been on the show. And I put on the show. We've got to drop our buff. I know. I know my buff, which I don't have. But I don't think that's what Jeff said. I think Jeff said this.
Starting point is 00:01:33 What? I'm Jeff Probst. I'm really cool. I've done this since the old school. And now it's time to show you. You're tough. So everybody drop your boss. Drop your boss.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Damn, Marian. That's good. I love that. We will get to that because we have to talk about the aftermath of this tribal. You know, recently just last week, we saw Savannah go home, sad. The winners are dying, episode by episode. And we go back and everyone is like, oh, my gosh, Christian. Are you okay?
Starting point is 00:02:08 We should each hit right now. But did you, okay, firstly, excellent, like this man, he has it all. He's a professor. He is a wordsmith. He can last on a pole for seven hours. And now he can fall on command and make it look, that looked believable, Mary Ann. No, it actually looked really good. And it looked like it hurt.
Starting point is 00:02:30 And did you understand Rick's reference to Charlie Chaplin? Are you two? I didn't understand it. So I can't imagine you. No, I, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa. I am a person of the arts and fee care. And so I actually understood it because Charlie Chaplin, for those who might
Starting point is 00:02:43 be my age or Omer and just lift your head under a rock is early 1920s comedian actor, very physical comedian, Pratt Falls, that sort of thing. So he did it so well. He committed it so well. And I just wonder, you know, coming back to tribal,
Starting point is 00:03:00 coming back to camp, you've had this voter and now you just have to think, oh my goodness, Christian, are you okay, you fell? Did medical have to come? Did people have to figure it out? Did he have to get his blood pressure taken? But only Rick Devin's at this moment knows that it was just a joke and that he secretly hid that hidden idol. And now there is an idol at Tribal Council. And really, this is a playoff of Adam Klein's game changing.
Starting point is 00:03:25 You know, we are moving in the direction where we can officially say that Adam Klein and Rick Devin's were more of game changers than Sierra Don Thomas. Do we agree? Oh, my goodness. That's so true. And even speaking to the way that Devin's did it, I really, and I know we're talking about last episode, but I really quite like it because it has the packaging. It has everything. But back to last week, let's go to this week. We wake up and there is tree mail. Before the tree mail, the intro is back. Oh, back too. Did you love it? Okay. Talk through the intro, Benjamin, Colby, Jonathan. Okay. Okay. Coach is so good. I know Benjamin. Jonathan's, I think those moving action shots.
Starting point is 00:04:06 I can't think of a third right now, but I'll be smashing the tile. That's pretty, good. We're on point. Aubrey smashed to jumping. That was nice too. Like, I think Jonathan and coach, just because theirs was such an action shot that really showed who they were with coach with the Tai Chi and Jonathan with being in the water, his element, it was like, oh, this is who they are. This is who they've been. And now I get to see on the 50 opening. I thought it was spectacular. Spectacular. And this season is firing on all cylinders again. This is a third episode, a great episode. And before we even get into the details, we have to honor Q, Quintaguer, Yes. We have to cancel Christmas for next year all the way because this is an early loss,
Starting point is 00:04:45 but I feel like anybody we lose, we're going to have a loss. So how do we feel about Q's overall story this season? Oh my gosh. I felt that Q's really went and I felt as if he was in that beautiful balance of I am aware of the game that I played in 46 and I'm going to change it to be more to lead the reins, but I'm still going to be my same Q-ness. Like you immediately saw him get out the gate, get in a majority of lines, immediately losing. his vote, figure out what he needs to do to keep himself in the alliance. He's still driving the wheel, pulling in the people he wants to pull in, which might have attributed a little bit to his downfall, but then in the end,
Starting point is 00:05:20 he still had people trusting him. And people weren't voting him out. It wasn't really like a, oh, Q is volatile. We need to get him out. It was more like a- She was running the show. Yes. He was like the stable-in-horse.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Yes. Yeah, I love when somebody can come in and play like a different game. Although, to be fair, Q was fairly stable. in his alliance early on. You know, that comes later, you know. You have to win people over before you can release your inner, your inner demon like we did, you know? People that know they're a menace until after a while. But I think that Q, he really did.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Do you think that part of this is because he lost his vote? Or do you think that they were all going to team up on them anyways? Oh, that's a good question. I don't personally think that it just was always Q. Because if you're looking, and I want to get into a little bit later, but if you're looking at who was there at the tribe, you have the, you have the David Brist's Goliathal lines who kind of have this de facto agreement. Then you have Emily and Ozzie and Christian who also don't want to work, who also don't want to vote for each other. So then that kind of only leaves Q and Stephanie. And so in this moment, people didn't really hate Stephanie.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Then Mike, because Mike was just like, I think he was running it. So I think this is the person who needs to go. so it kind of defaulted into Q because there were only two different options. And I don't think at this moment, Stephanie wasn't doing anything where it's like, oh, she's running the show or oh, she's doing this. She just, so it felt like Q would have been a bigger shot. Yeah, I don't know because I feel like Q, I don't think that him losing his vote got him voted out tonight. However, I do think it made it impossible to really mount an offense here because they come in. They're all talking about David versus Goliath.
Starting point is 00:07:00 So those three don't necessarily want to give in to that temptation at that point. You know, they want to try to protect their own numbers. And they have three out of six. So there's no reason. Is Emily Flippin financial analyst? This isn't a financially analyst good call to be going to rocks for Quintavius or Stephanie at this point? Like for what reason?
Starting point is 00:07:21 So there really was no way I feel that was easy for them, especially because he was showing how strong he was with his original tribe and Stephanie. There's no reason to necessarily keep him around. So I think it made it impossible. But it wasn't the thing. But, I mean, that just goes to show you, the vote can be very, to have that say, to have that voice is very valuable. And it could have potentially, if he had had a little bit more leverage because there wouldn't, if people really wanted to topple DVG, they could have done it in a way. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:07:52 I know. But, Omar, like I said, we have to talk about this trap swap. Yes, yes. Let's take a step back. Okay. The fans vote for him. He wanted it. Did you vote for it?
Starting point is 00:08:04 Oh, yeah. I think I voted for a tribe swap. Did you? I did vote for a tribe swap. And you know who else who voted for a tribe swap? Charlie. Charlie. Charlie.
Starting point is 00:08:15 I like spicy Charlie coming for the fans, but we knew he was in with them too. Yes, exactly. That was Christian calling Charlie out too, being like, who did you vote for? Yeah, come on, sit down. Did we like how the swap tribe broke, the three tribes broke out? Because I loved having DVG altogether bringing those relationships back together. I am obsessed that Aubrey and Genevieve got to stay together. I know. My furlies are fighting.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Yes. So funny. Yes. I met you. And so he's like, yeah, yeah. I thought it was, let's also not talk about the, we also talked about the honor and integrity. Who are the three again? It was. Oh, okay. So let's start with that tribe. Joe. Yeah, yeah. Colby, Joe. You have Colby, Joe.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Joe and coach. How obvious. It's like the collective. It's like say the line or Michelle Fitzgerald, kick the tower over. We know it's coming. Honor, integrity, blah, blah, blah, blah. Joe did it last person. No, I thought she was a great add-in with coach being like,
Starting point is 00:09:27 Joe, you made me see I could play 50 again. Because you showed that the new era still has honor and integrity. And so I'm going to bring you into the fold. I actually think that was a great strategic play by coach to really pull in Joe. Because in this moment, he's showing Joe, Joe, I don't care that your new era. For me, I care more about how you play. And you play like me. You play me and Kobe, the good guys. And we're going to go and bring you in. And so I thought it was cool. I also thought it was cool that they brought the little call back to season 20 with Superman in a fat suit. And they showed that connection. Like the show has been doing very well and giving information.
Starting point is 00:10:04 to watchers who might not know all the lore. And so I'm quite loving that as well too. Yeah, but you know, you know somewhere out there, David Milkman Kinney was rolling in his grave over this moment of honor and integrity as he doesn't buy into it anymore. But what I will say is that, you know, I think the interesting thing about last week
Starting point is 00:10:22 was there was so much talk about Joe and the traumas of his previous season, Kyle and Camilla, playing him to the point where, you know, they enacted a plan. They made him look like a fool on the show. And that is really just like you can see it's grinding his gears. He doesn't want to get caught up in that again.
Starting point is 00:10:40 But it's interesting to see him lean back in to the honor and integrity thing. But I will say on Joe's defense here, the right move for the right audience, you know. Exactly. You don't go to coaches say, hey, I played with honor integrity last season. I was spun around. So I'm not playing with that anymore. That's not how you get coached to like you. That's not how you get Kobe to like you.
Starting point is 00:11:00 You need to go and bring them to the way that they love to play. and they love to play with that big major alliance. Oh, yes, yes. They love to play with that big alliance where their honors towards each other and then whoever they go and vote out it's because they're in the out group. And that's kind of like the mindset
Starting point is 00:11:17 of how they're playing. And so we've kind of touched faces well about like my girl, Genevieve and Aubrey, how they're peepoooooooooooo. We got to bring in the stirring of the pot. Coming in a wrestling of rec. That's so funny. And the thing is you would think on paper, Tiffany, Genevieve played one season apart.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Everybody knows the people kind of around your season, you know, a little bit better, several distances away. You have Tiffany coming here. She's not fucking around. She wants to work with Aubrey. What could go wrong? She is going to sell Jennifer immediately. And so I would say, I like this play if she really wants to connect with Aubrey and make
Starting point is 00:11:57 the loop. I just don't see where she's going to get the traction in this group because it seems they're all gravitating towards, um, towards Genevieve over Aubrey. So is it going to be a five two situation? Now, she doesn't yet know that Aubrey has the immunity idol.
Starting point is 00:12:14 So they could really do something here. So I think ultimately you have to go with where you feel your like heart and soul is, which is what Joe coach and, and Benny are doing. So why not Tiffany going with Aubrey? I think that's fine. But I love this little, it's like Aubrey versus, um,
Starting point is 00:12:31 jenovee is like a tennis match. They're going back and forth. Genevieve has the numbers. Aubrey has the idol. Where do you see this going? Oh, my goodness. You see, for me, it really, I just don't see how numbers can override this at this point, right?
Starting point is 00:12:49 Because let's say, for example, they go to tribal. Everyone's thinking it's Aubrey, it's Aubrey who's going home. I think, and it's a 5-2 situation, if you put three and two, you still win in a tie. So overall, Genevieve still wins. And then the next tribal, Aubrey's not, unless there's another Billy Elish idol. No, they're on the beach that it hasn't been bad, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:11 So that means there's no more way for then Aubrey to get a second idol with the weapons that they have here. So even if they go and Aubrey might win the first round, she's not going to win the war. So I think right now that even though she has that idol in her pocket, that Genevieve, if they have to go to multiple tribals, I don't see how they take away Genevieve because she seems so ingrained with everyone
Starting point is 00:13:34 and everyone wants to work with her. And this tribe actually, to me, seems like the weakest one of the three. I'm a little bit surprised that they did pull it out because to me it seems like you have, obviously the Jonathan tribe, the Camilla tribe, they have got puzzles and strength on lock. And then you look at the tribe that lost.
Starting point is 00:13:55 I mean, you've got Ozzy, Challenge Beast, Christian, the mental giant, Emily Flippin. I don't think Emily identifies as a puzzle girl. But they also love these things as well. Yeah. And yet they, but they have the curse of Stephanie. So perhaps that will stay on Aubrey versus Genentee thing for a little bit longer. I like this dynamic as well where the thing is if Tiffany can still place herself in the majority where they don't know she's being information to Aubrey, it is possible that she won't get split on.
Starting point is 00:14:26 and maybe they could send the votes elsewhere because they may not want to piss her off. But if she's seen as a tight too, you're right. They just do not have the numbers to kind of make it out of this alive. But Chrissy's also in an interesting position as well. And we, she's got a nice little moment tonight,
Starting point is 00:14:43 which I want to appreciate. Thank you for being vulnerable, putting yourself out there, showing us the story that you've kind of cope with. And you can see the demons of her past survivor season also coming back to haunt a little bit. You know, we saw how brutal people talked about Chrissy after her season. And then now he's kind of like a nice lady that just wants some redemption.
Starting point is 00:15:04 But she had a coach kind of coach did the Tyson coach. Yes. Yeah. We think that she can turn things around. I want to, okay. So I want to first speak on the fact that it's like, that is the worst thing to hear. You weren't liked on your season. You come on this season.
Starting point is 00:15:23 You're feeling great. because remember how the conversation started with coach. Like coach was like you need to calm down. And Christy's like, no, no, no, I'm good. I trust you guys. We're doing great. The coach's like, no, no, no, no, on your personality. Okay?
Starting point is 00:15:36 And coach, of all people, be like, you talk too much. Like, where did that come from? That is completely gut-wrenching. And I know that feeling because I felt that feeling on the beach. I'm like, wow, no one likes me. No one likes who I am. And I'm really struggling over here because it's like, I just, yes, yes, you did, you did, but I was also a pseudo-social pariah.
Starting point is 00:15:58 And it's like this thing when you're like, you're playing this game that you want to play. You're so happy to be here. And then, and it's like, you know who you are at home, but you're on this island. And now, you know, apparently you smell like doo-do water because no one wants to be with you. And I feel that she handled it so well, you know, she took that moment. She had that girl chat to talk about with the girlies about like, this is how I'm feeling, this is how I'm vulnerable. And this is why I'm really feeling this way. and she really picked it back up because I really feel because, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:26 coach brought back to her to be like, I want to keep you here, this is how we need to go and adjust. She went, she had that girl chat to talk with like, hey, this is what I'm interested in. And now she also connected as well too with Genevieve and is now really ingrained into this group where I don't think, especially with coach, I feel as a fact that trio of men are kind of running the show a little bit on this tribe. I don't see Chrissy leaving anytime soon. So I think she's actually in a good position right now.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Yeah, she is in this tribe. I think she is solid because she has the connection to coach. And Genevieve has the connection to Colby. So even if they pull in Joe, that's five. That really does actually kind of leave Tiffany on the outside. Maybe she partly sensed that and which is why she wants to connect with Aubrey. But I think that Chrissy is in a good spot now, but these are not the people that she had issues with, you know. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Other people that were bothered by her. So she needs to kind of regroup. Maybe she can still identify these numbers. and then she can like pounce on the others or change her approach at that point. But being away from them for a while may be an issue for her. But I am excited to see
Starting point is 00:17:28 definitely the Genevieve versus Aubrey of it all. But I think that this is a tribe that I could see losing in the future. So I think we're going to get some closure to this storyline. Where are my gloves? Come on, heat. Any. Winter is hard, but your groceries don't have
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Starting point is 00:18:25 But this red tribe or the orange tribe, you have Risgad who's coming all the way on his lonesome from the previous purple tribe. Then you have Charlie, Camilla, D, and Jonathan from the former Kalo tribe. They have the majority theoretically, which is interesting because within that group even, D was getting targeted by Jonathan. But now they seem to be kind of in lockstep against Surrey and Rick who are coming together. So I think this is kind of an interesting
Starting point is 00:18:54 because it's a very new era heavy tribe. But definitely the funniest storylines for me were A, Rizzo telling Sarri that he knew her once upon a time. Seri being classic Surrey going back, way back to the Casaya days where she's like, I don't like any of these people. And then also
Starting point is 00:19:11 the flashback of Charlie being like Maria. Yes. Let's bring these all down one at a time. So I just want to talk about this, I'm worried for Surrey on this tribe girl. I am worried because everyone here is like, I want to keep
Starting point is 00:19:30 Surrey, but there's someone whispering in the back of me being like, take her out, but it's like, so I guess I'll take her out because I don't like, and it's so interesting to watch people who are communicating about the self-awareness of Surrey's social skills. Like, you could see Deere Confessional being like, no, I want to keep her, but I know I know I can't, but like, I want to keep her. resisting temptation. Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Read like the siren and rush into the, into the Odyssey. But we thought there was 24 players on the season, but now, these friends, it's the 25th player. Like, she should get the fishy this week. I know. Oh, we get to decide. Oh, my gosh. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Exactly. That's there. But yes. So that was great because it's like, oh, my goodness. It's like, I guess, because it's like, I guess Ceri needs to go home, but I don't want her to. but, and then we're now also, I want to go delve into this Charlie having this hate train on Rizzle because of the flashbacks.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Yes, yes, yes. Is it right for Dee to want Surrey out here? Because I can think that Dee had a huge target on her back going into this. We've already seen people say it time after time. So she feels a vibe for Surrey and a bond with Surrey. I think she needs to keep somebody like that around. Like that doesn't mean you have to go to the end with her. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Is Dee needs somebody like that? I feel like she does. I agree with you. Especially as now she's the only winner there. You need someone where it's like if you get out Saria, you get out all these people. Like we've seen it time and time again and game changers when you get out all the big Melcoms and who else?
Starting point is 00:21:12 And Sandra T. Then you go at her. I mean, Sierra Easton. She voted out her mom. Then you go to merge and it's like, oh, who's the big threat now? The people who are the threats are the people who would have been sitting pretty at merge. So I think for, especially for D, she shouldn't be going and being like, oh, my gosh, I need to get to her out. I think in this moment she needs to get someone out, Rizzo out who would just go and go for her.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Because it's like, you know, people think, I guess Rizzle has communicated that he's in fourth place, right? That he got fourth place. But like he's this big question mark. Everyone knows who Sourrias. everyone knows who your game is. Everyone knows who you are D. Everyone knows what your game is. So you want someone who it's like, oh, who's the bigger threat?
Starting point is 00:21:51 Is it D or is it Ceree? You don't want it to be who's the bigger threat. No T, no, shade, all love. Is it Rizzo or is it D? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Or we saw that. We saw that Rick versus D.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Yes. Pregame stuff, you know? So maybe that's the avenue you take over that. Exactly. Interesting because I think that's where the returning player seasons can be very interesting. It's like the ghosts of the past and what you've seen before. Can that impede your program? We saw that as well very clearly on winners at war where Sophie Clark, you know, she had mutual interest with Kim, but was too afraid to work with Kim because of what Kim or what she could do.
Starting point is 00:22:27 But sometimes those interests do align. And I think that this is one of those things where at first I thought, oh, that's really funny. A stoop point from Mel, but I don't think that's necessarily in D's best interest. And then, yes, now we need to talk about the little hate bummer. Yes. I get it. So I first want to speak. So for those who just want that recap, it's at night.
Starting point is 00:22:48 We get a night flashback. And Rosalie's like, oh, you know, Sophie, she's my best friend. She made it to the final three. But I had to vote for Savannah because I think she played the best game. And Charlie's getting flashbacks to the war. Okay? It's flashbacks. And we get the flashback, too.
Starting point is 00:23:02 We see Kenzie winning. We see Charlie gagged to Gali being, what is going on? We saw the look at Kenzie's eye. Yes. We saw Jeff be like, Maria. What's going on, girl? You know? So Charlie just goes
Starting point is 00:23:15 And like Raven Simone Staxo Raven comes back to the feature and says, Rizzo needs to die. Hey, Ravens Simone did that? And that's a Raven. I think you're, let's not go into this tangent. But he is like, Rizzo needs to die. I cannot go and I cannot have Rizzo.
Starting point is 00:23:32 And he's like, I think this is just like flashbacks from the war, but I don't care. These flashbacks are not going to become a flash presence because this man and my dying breath will not make the jury. So he is, anti-rizo. He is anti-Riz God, okay? He's the atheist in this game. He's like,
Starting point is 00:23:49 no God should be on my tribe. Yes, so funny. And the thing is, Rizzo was, Rizzo, I feel like, was doing a little bit of spin on his own. You know, Savannah was clearly his ride or die on the first, I mean, obviously, we didn't see everything. Maybe Sophie was his best friend. But Savannah and Rizzo were like this from day one. You know, they knew each other before Sophie and Rizzo did. So I felt like this, to me, my read on this, I could be wrong, but I feel like the Riz God was trying to pull one over because he had distanced himself from Savannah. They're like, oh, we don't know each other.
Starting point is 00:24:21 We don't even go to the same school to try to, like, lessen the target on their back. And then she got voted on. It doesn't matter. But then you can't backtrack and be like, actually, we were super, super close. And so I think that that, you don't think so? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Like, I have a little bit of this. Here, this is what I feel about it. Like, I think this is one of the, lives where it's like you didn't know for most people it's like okay whatever but then it also does raise a question mark because it's like if you're sophie's friend why wouldn't you vote for her like it's a bit of a question mark and they immediately even bring up the maria of it all where it's like oh are people going to call you around maria and his defense is like well i didn't cause her to lose the game so like it's fine yeah but like but like for me i'm just like i'm just like i'm trying to
Starting point is 00:25:07 go and ponder the fact it would have really savannah's gone you could be like actually i'm up. Sabana and I were actually each other's allies. Like we really, which is why I voted for her. Just take back the life. But now she's voted out. She's gone. It doesn't matter in the game anymore. I just like, I needed to try to give my information. But maybe Rizel's been worried if I backtrack
Starting point is 00:25:26 are people going to be like, oh, you know, he's sneaky. He's doing all these evil things. We're trying to hide the secret thing. So we need to vote them out. It's like the saying of the witch eating crackers, right? In the grass food things, it makes sense. But if people want Rizzo gone and now they have this other thing, and it's going to, oh, Rizel Lai.
Starting point is 00:25:41 You know, he lied about, he lied about having a pre-existing connection with someone before the show. How dare he have a pre-existing connection before the show? That's not there when we all, like when we all had years and seizures and interconnecting. So I can see why I kept it, but I also don't know why he might have, like, he could have just been like, like, I don't know. Or just at that point, just say you voted for Sophie to win. They don't know. Yeah. They don't know the vocalf or just because it's like, because at this point, why would you say you voted for Savannah or just be like, oh, I lied.
Starting point is 00:26:10 You know, I wanted to seem like I had some sort of work. like just in case I could work with Savannah or something. Like, it's so weird. I'm excited for the deleted scene though, where the question after that that he poses to the rest of the tribe is, can you all name a different relative of mine? Like that's what you see when he really learned from the first time. But I think that rhythm was like smartly trying to cover his subpoena connection.
Starting point is 00:26:32 And then he came backtrack on that. But then you didn't realize like what a trigger it was for Charlie. But I have to say, I feel like this was, this was spicy Charlie. This was five alarm chili and five alarm Charlie and I Five alarm Charlie
Starting point is 00:26:48 I think like the nicest hilarious great narrator great strategist but here we got a pinch of not just pepper and salt. This was what's a hot spice? I don't know I don't eat hot spices. This was cayenne no oh my gosh that's actually
Starting point is 00:27:06 just having a narrow at least Terry is I love Terry actually That's not spicy at all. Yeah, we got that little spice from Charlie. It was wasabi. We're about to have sushi. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:17 There you go. Wasabi. But I really feel like for Charlie, him having this target on Rizzo because of personal effects, I think it's a funny reason to target someone, but I also don't think that Rizzo, him targeting Rizzo is a bad move on his part. No, no. Like he's this big question mark. He has connections with other people that he feels comfortable with.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Rizzo wasn't on the original tribe. And, you know, Savannah's gone. Why not Target? Rizzo? It makes complete sense to me. And, you know, if you go and you close the door on this fear that, like, Rizzo will vote widely, of course, do it. But I just think it's really funny, though, because I was watching the episode and thinking, it's so funny because Charlie's like, Rizzo would vote for his friend. I'm like, you just met Rizzo yesterday.
Starting point is 00:28:05 This is a benefit to you. Like, I don't think you guys are BFS. Yeah, actually, they should be mortal enemies and then put us on his job. Yeah, like, I'm like, I'm like, low-key, it sounds like Rizzo's lies beneficial to you. And it's like Rizzo would have better people right now. But, and I thought it was also so funny. Yeah, go ahead. I think the thing is like, the one thing I could see about Charlie maybe should keep Rizzo around is Rizzo did.
Starting point is 00:28:27 He was the one that he spilled the tea to, you know, he told him everything, which was kind of a wild move for him to give Genevieve's info like that. But at the same time, you know, in most situations, that probably would have worked with Charlie. but there was this extra little spice there. But for somebody like Charlie, I feel like, like they said, he has something to prove. He came almost as close to winning other than Damabate than for a runner up, you know? So he really has a big target on his back without the million dollar check, which kind of sucks. So then I feel like if you look at the rest of this tribe, you know, I don't see him getting, having bad blood with Dee or Camilla or Jonathan. So he should keep them around.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Then it's like, do you target Rizzo? Or do you target Rick and Surrey, who both could serve as, like, good shields for you? So I see where he's coming from, but also I think partially depends on his relationship with Rick and Surrey in terms of how he should go. But I have to say, we love Hubbinar Charlie. And we hope we see more of it. Yes, we love the Habon Arrow Charlie. You know what? He's in his reputation era.
Starting point is 00:29:30 And Charlie will understand what this means. And all the 50s will get what I mean. Wait, is it like Bad Blood? Is that the song? Bad Blood? You see, no, bad blood was not in reputation. What about, um, are he and Maria never, ever getting back together, ever? Also not in reputation, but nice try.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Why don't you tell me that, you genius, if you know, okay. I would say he really is, look what he made me do. Oh, okay. You're right. Yeah. Okay. Don't cover me. I, I know my swift vernacular.
Starting point is 00:30:06 You know, she's big in the news. week. Donna Kelsey said that Taylor Swift watched that show. That show. Mm-hmm. But yeah. Anyway, so great stuff there. But do you think that, I think all of this is irrelevant? Sarita could be on the worst position on this tribe. They're never going to lose. Look at these people. Oh my goodness. No, I don't see them going. Like, they have Jonathan. They have they have puzzles. And they already learned. Don't put him on the pizza puzzle.
Starting point is 00:30:33 I saw them. Jonathan, you, we see people developing from their puzzles. I saw Jonathan with that blindfold. I'm like, Jonathan, you. Jonathan's, let's have a Jonathan check in because he was famously on the Taku tribe, which you don't have your buff on, so fake hands. You did not tell him to bring the buff. I thought you would know already, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:30:53 I thought we were there, but we were clearly not there. And also you dropped us anyway, so it doesn't matter. I didn't drop Jonathan, actually. Did not drop us? Yeah, that's true. That's true. How do you feel about how our boy, Jonathan, is doing this season. Jonathan, the best representative of 42, this man has been in the core of everything since day one.
Starting point is 00:31:17 He has been, like, it feels like he is in the safe position. No one is looking at him right now. It's also because he is Jonathan. Like, no, like, Jonathan is quite literally a gift from God when it comes to, because he's just so physically dominant. And even, and even so, because this, uh, the immunity challenge wasn't that physical. but like he's very good as a synergy team. Like I remember when we were at camp together
Starting point is 00:31:42 and like he was like, you guys brought the conversation about what are people strong on? What are people good at? He wants to work in a team. He loves to win challenges. Like even when you heard him talking about voting out, he was like, if we lose a challenge. He's like, I'm not throwing these bad boys.
Starting point is 00:31:56 I'm winning it out and we'll have a plan B just in case because he loves the game. He loves to play. He knows what his strategy is. Remember we were talking about what if we go to a swap? And if it's like we're in the majority, should we throw the challenge for the people? And then everybody was like, now. And I was like, oh, this is the wrong vibe for this group.
Starting point is 00:32:17 We play with honor and integrity. Yeah, but I will say that Jonathan, I think the thing that he doesn't have this season that he had the advantage of in some ways last time is that everybody here has played Survivor before. So they all are already comfortable being deprived. They know what it's like. Whereas I found when I was in that culture shock going from like never having camped in my life, the first time being in a tent was like in Ponderosa before the game. And I wasn't smart enough to know not to spray bug spray in an enclosed space and then wonder why I couldn't breathe and thought I would get medically evacuated before it started.
Starting point is 00:32:52 And then get to the island worrying about shitting in the ocean. You remember how much we talked about that? I was like, I don't have a problem with anxiety. I can't go. And being in that uncomfortable place where you're deprived, he was. he was a really grounding force and he made me feel very comfortable and safe in that setup.
Starting point is 00:33:11 But these people, they don't need that. However, he does have the advantage of like for challenges and stuff like that. He really is collaborative. He really does not, is not that is not really overbearing in that sense and really does want to just succeed. So here in the situation where we had to pick a caller,
Starting point is 00:33:27 he chose to step forward because we didn't really have somebody that had like a projecting voice. in the same way that he had. And so he took that role on, but it wasn't the right part for the end and we ended up losing this challenge that sent us to tribal council. But here he's so happy to take a step back
Starting point is 00:33:44 because he knows his strengths and weaknesses. And the thing that he has an advantage on this season, I feel like, is A, there's a lot of people that have been wanting to work with him because they can watch 42 and not necessarily be threatened by him. Like, even though, you know, you got all the credit for voting me out of Survivor 42. No, he thought of it first. the ball road. Like he started, he wanted that before anybody else did.
Starting point is 00:34:07 And he started to get the ball moving in that direction. But people don't know that who just watched the show. They don't know that he has this other strategic gear that it's easy to forget that is there. Like even playing with him, I was like, I didn't see that coming from him. And I thought that that is an advantage he carries over into this season. Yeah. It's because Jonathan has the same problem or advantage as me, it's like, I talk so much, people forget that I think.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Jonathan is so physically large. People forget that he thinks. People forget that he has the strategy, which he does happen. So because you just think of him as this physical guy. And so you don't think of this physical guy that also has the strategy. And I do think that it's going to maybe serve him well in this game.
Starting point is 00:34:53 That it clearly has been right now. He's in this good strategic spot. And, you know, because some people might be like, oh, he's physical, blah, blah, blah, blah. He's going to get sniked when they smell emerge. But who's going to snipe him? Like, he has, he's ingrained with people. Why would his own allies turn on him if they could just get someone else that they,
Starting point is 00:35:10 that they're not with right now? So I think he's in a good spot. I, yeah. He's posting right now in a way. Like, he could just coast, but at the same time he's still doing little things. Yes. To, like, secure his spot beyond just being complacent, you know?
Starting point is 00:35:25 Yes. He's securing coach. He's securing Chrissy. You know, these, these three that came over with him clearly want to work with him. Like, they're not looking to, to, to, to, jump or jump him right now. His issue will never be pre-merged. It is going to be post-merge.
Starting point is 00:35:40 So it'll be interesting to see if those building, but it's like, is he setting the building blocks up to have success later on and pay dividends later? And I think we are seeing that, but I guess we'll see how it plays out. But he also did that a little bit the first time, too, in the sense that, you know, he was like, I'll carry you guys forward in these challenges. And then post-merge, he came to me being like, I'm going to need you now. you know, like he knows when to give and take.
Starting point is 00:36:06 And then if he can slip under the radar and have people underestimate him again, I think that he could snipe them. But I think we're so far, what's the grade, the letter grade on Jonathan's game up until episode three? Oh my gosh. A Canadian A minus. Okay. I'll take A minus to, he's flirting with that A right now.
Starting point is 00:36:28 But we got to see. He hasn't been to tribal yet. So it's hard to achieve the extracurriculars that. get you to that. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay.
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Starting point is 00:37:29 Should he pull out the eraser? Should he pull out the eraser? Chris Noble, honestly, he did it better. They should have to be running Chris Noble for this. To do the right. Absolutely. It's a celebration of all 50 seasons. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:41 So we go and we end. Or Gabriel, Kate. Oh my goodness. Now we're pulling it way too bad. But we are getting back. Oh, no. He was recent to this swap. And Christian have been searching for Emily looking.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Emily is with everybody except herself. She is yapping on the tribe. They have not been able to find Emily to tell her. that Aubrey has the idol. First she is like, I love my girl. I'm not going to throw my girl under the bus.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Pull her aside as they pulled her aside. Just lean to her right here as they take the buff off and says, Aubrey has the idol, that's all I can tell you. And now we're about to start
Starting point is 00:38:19 the best segment in the show. And I'm first, I want to talk about Emily first. And I want to talk about her reaction first because Emily went and said
Starting point is 00:38:31 oh my gosh Christian's telling me this last minute I'm not getting this information Christian doesn't trust me as much as I get it and I want to speak to you about it because when I heard that I immediately understood exactly what Emily was feeling because it brought me back to the knowledge is power Dreia blindside because for me I was blindsided about this I didn't know that it was going on and I only found out as it was happening real time, which I personally feel is the best way to get blindsided. Nothing happens to you. It's great.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Amazing. But when I got back to Ken, Ulmer came up to me and said, I'm so sorry, Marian. I wasn't able to find you. I'm so, so sorry. And, like, you felt the exact way Emily felt
Starting point is 00:39:19 because I'm like, what do you mean you were able to find? What do you mean? I'm on the beach with you. Like, what do you meet? Like, were you not? Like, were you not? And, like, there were reasons why,
Starting point is 00:39:28 I was sick that time, and then I was always with Dreia's either. And there's also reasons because literally when I had told you some information, you had blabbed it to Dreia. Okay. That's another story. That's another story. It's literally related to that story, which is why I went to confess to it said, Marianne can't know about anything anymore because she can't keep her mouth shut.
Starting point is 00:39:47 No, I wouldn't get my mouth shut about that. And actually, a piece of your downfall. But the point being is that once you find out information last minute, you better do some damage to. because I remember waiting for you then to be like, Omar, what the hell just happened here? Why did I not know about this? And I, like, and so
Starting point is 00:40:08 did Emily do that? When they get to the beach, find out they're on the same tribe. Does Emily run up to Christian and be like, Christian? What the hell? Well, take it away, Omar. Yeah, the thing is, I also watched this and kind of felt watching it unfold. Christian had some part to put the blame for this,
Starting point is 00:40:30 much like I had part of the blame for it. Because I think the issue with it was like, I can't tell Marianne anything anymore because she ratted me out to Trea. But I still want to have my cake you needed to and still work with her. Not the right thing. Like if you're going to be in, you've got to be all in.
Starting point is 00:40:46 And the same thing is true, I think. And I think that's why on our original tribe, we said, okay, these are the people who are trusting, especially pre-merge, let's go find the idol together, whoever finds it, we're all in on the plan. So I think that, you know, the excuse that Christian and Rick have to some extent of like, well, it was so last minute, we just couldn't.
Starting point is 00:41:05 You've had that idol for, you know, a while. Tell her right away when you knew, right? Because like it was earlier in the day, like the day before that all of that went down. At least that's how it was presented on the episode. So it seems like I feel like they could have had. you know, it was before Savannah left that they had that item. So they could have found a time to tell her, but they didn't tell her until that moment when the swap was coming.
Starting point is 00:41:34 So I get where she's coming from that perspective. But at the same time, I think that she identified later what she should do, but had just like blabbed too much before. So you know what she came to the conclusion of what she needed to do, but it wasn't turning on Christian at that point. But then she had already let that information out. But I can see why she felt like she needed to in that moment, to be honest. Like, I do get, like, if you feel like you're getting blindsided with information last
Starting point is 00:42:04 minute, then you need to make a new plan, I do get that. But it made for iconic television. Oh, the best segment ever. Because now we're going, you know, Christian went. And we also let's bring it back, loved how Christian, like they had this thing. Devons has, is known as an idol finder. So we're going to say that Devons found. the idol. So no one's going to know. And then, and then so Devons is going and talks to
Starting point is 00:42:28 Surrey about fighting the idol. And Christian's all like, oh my gosh. Oh, oh, oh. Like this man is God, goop and golly, you know, Christian for the Emmy. Yeah. Well, honestly, that's a really good move for Christian, too, to make, to get Rick to, that's like perfect. He gets Rick to take all of the heat for finding the idol, which, to be fair to Rick in this situation as well, that is the right move because if you don't want to blow up that Christian gave this thing to Aubrey when you have a relationship with Aubrey so that could be excused. But then I think what needed to be done like a little step beyond that was Christian probably needed to take more of a step back from the idle situation. You know, so in terms of like when he's talking, when Christian and Rick are
Starting point is 00:43:16 talking to Surrey, I noticed that as Surrey bought what they were saying, so it ended up being fine. but I thought it was interesting that Rick was like really talking to Surrey and Christian was pretending to be surprised about the information but he was not addressing Christian like verbally and eye contact wise so if I had been there like well if this is new to both of us why are you only like looking at me and telling me that but I don't think Sarie either well we didn't see her pick up on that yeah I think you're thinking like a psychiatrist that's because you know I'm not a psychiatrist
Starting point is 00:43:46 yeah but you're related to one like I don't think I don't think what I'm going and having conversations, unless, like, unless it's so egregious that you're not talking to me and, like, I'm not in on it, then it doesn't matter. Like, let's say, like, for example, like, you know, it's like, because Rick was talking to Ceree, but Christian already knew, but it wasn't that Rick and Ceree were talking to, were not involved in Christian. Christian was in on it. So it didn't really matter because he's with the body language you're speaking, because
Starting point is 00:44:16 I'm not like, I track him you. So I don't think that was a big, like, fault on Rick. I think you're just being so nitpicky. These people are hungry. They're not going to be thinking about this either. Well, ultimately, Surrey bought it. So it's not no harm, no foul. So it did work out, although it is crazy to me that there's this alliance of Rick,
Starting point is 00:44:31 Surrey, Emily, and Christian as a Ford. And they're like, this is the form. What about Ozzy? Like, are they forgetting that Ozzie and Surrey are pestis? I'm guessing that either they don't mind or they don't or like, or Surrey and Ozia being doing very good. The only Savannah smelt that these two are together. And this is like a contested on Ceree's game.
Starting point is 00:44:49 And now Emily and Ozzie are best. I know. So I think that is very interesting. Thank you. Thank you. Because we go to this conversation. I love to Emily goes to Q and Stephanie being like Christian and lying to all of us. Aubrey has the idol.
Starting point is 00:45:06 They gave it to her. And then goes to Angelina immediately is like, can't have her mind. Yes. And Angelina being like this is the most intense. first conversation with somebody ever had. I'm like, have you played clock tower with Emily? No. It was, it was a whirlwind.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Because from the viewer's view, we go, we see it's, it's, it's, uh, who's it's an Ozzy, is it Aussie Q Christian was the first conversation. And then, and then, and then, like, Q already goes to Ozies like, you and I were tight. I guess we'll bring in Emily. Emily comes in and it's like, hey, you know, I, Aubrey has the idol. And we know, because Christian told me and I don't trust Christian. And Hugh's like, okay, great, you can be our fourth, I guess. And then Hugh's like, and we're going to bring in Stephanie.
Starting point is 00:45:54 And then so it's going to be me, Ozzie, Stephanie, and you, Emily. And then Emily goes to, has a conversation with Hugh and Stephanie. And she hears them talking. She's like, wait a second, one, two, three, four. I'm not Marianne. I don't lose fourth on the list. And this is, and it's me. Like, I've got a silly goose and think that it's Stephanie.
Starting point is 00:46:13 I know, this isn't good for me. I need to get out of here. And so she does. exactly what you said what she needs to do. She goes to Christian. Hey, Christian. I did a bad girl. I have something to say.
Starting point is 00:46:29 Please don't get mad at me. Please. And honestly, when you start like that, he has to forgive her. No, I don't think Christian did not crash out as much as I thought I would. He stated in the confessional, which was hilarious. The gas. Audible gasp of the... He couldn't even, he couldn't even keep the gas belt because he's just like, Emily, what do you mean?
Starting point is 00:46:54 You told everyone about this one secret thing. I was trying to tell you because I could not find you. And I wanted to set you off for success. And now everyone knows Aubrey has the idol. Like it's, it's Jay has the idol all over again. Christian has been firing on all cylinders as well. This man has brought the entertainment this season. And this is another episode for that.
Starting point is 00:47:16 But his reaction to Emily Spillet, like I would have been at, frustrated and annoyed as well in that position. But he did, like he saved it for the confessional and he realized actually very quickly, okay, I could be annoyed about this, but I still lean and want to work with Emily. So I need to put that behind me. And that's a very important skill to have, especially because you have all of those people coming for his David versus Goliath trio. And I think that to be honest, those three played it really, really well.
Starting point is 00:47:45 except, although I was ready to like read Mike to Phil. Yes. When he said, I'm voting for you, Stephanie. But when there was the second plan, I was like, I get you. I get you. I like that. No, I remember that. We go back to tribal and Mike is like,
Starting point is 00:48:00 oh, about these David Westlite people are not going to vote for them. I'm voting for you. And the thing that's wild is that this happened in front of everyone who was not a part of the season of David versus Galilee. So it's like it was like it was just wild to me. I'm like, why is he saying this? This is actually. And then after it's like, oh, I'm actually going to queue in the end. And I'm like, what is going on?
Starting point is 00:48:25 So let's chat. I think it's like such a risky move. But I like it in the sense that he is trying to create a diversion. You know, he's, he's, I actually at first when I thought it was legit, I was like, what are you doing? Especially because there's shots in the dark that are in play. You're telegraphing what you're doing. there could be idols. He's coming from the tribe where they don't know anything about idols.
Starting point is 00:48:48 And it's not like Angelina told him because Angelina doesn't know about the idols at this point from what we're aware. And so, but then the more I think about it, the more I kind of like it because he's, again, he's creating a diversion. He's making two statements. One, we're voting for Stephanie when we're really voting for Q. That's important because if he looks like he's coming across nervous and honest, if they have an idol, maybe they're playing it on Stephanie instead of.
Starting point is 00:49:13 Yeah. Secondly, and they know the type of, you know, Stephanie, you see her name come up, but she's a little bit paranoid about it. You know, if there is an idol in that group, she's not going to be the type to be like, I think they're bluffing. She's going to want it played on her, which is understandable. Then you have the second layer to that is he's sending the message of, we're not going to turn on each other here.
Starting point is 00:49:35 So are you going to go to rocks or are you going to play? You know, and I think that that was great. I like it. I think it's one of those things where when you have all three David versus Goliath people and you have a tribe of seven and it's three and you just need one person and you say, we're three. Do you want to be our fourth? And like I don't think we're going to go to tribal a lot of time.
Starting point is 00:50:00 So it's easy and you and you and you hop on this three trade now. You are safe for at least one more tribal. And like the odds of us going to two tribals is low enough that you want to. to get on this. I think it's a great sell, especially for the pre-merch. But the big worry for me especially is that for the
Starting point is 00:50:23 threes, we have a favorite for Slythea, and we have 46, who's now not a three. And 48, but they're... Who's now not a three anymore. So they're now coming to next episode, they're still the only
Starting point is 00:50:37 strong three. So it's really now this game of like, okay, we're playing this, like, they're setting themselves. up for a good short-term strategy. But long-term, I'm just so worried that at merge, immediately, we just need to get one of these three. It doesn't even matter. Like, if you're working together, let's wash our hands.
Starting point is 00:50:55 And then it's the really big bet of which one of the three are going to be the sacrifice. Because in the three-merge, it was Angelina. Angelina's week. But who is it going to be at merge? Will it be- Is Angelina even that week? I don't think she is. It's perception as reality. I think it's more like they said, Angela doesn't do work at tribe.
Starting point is 00:51:13 so we're going to get Angelina out. And then it's now morphed to that Angelina is the weakest in the tribe, even though, like, I think she did fine in the challenge. I think she's great. So then, but if it's at merge, I'm like, I have to get one of these days versus the life out. I'm not going for Angelina. I'm going for Angelina.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Yeah. I'd be going, like, if I'm not working Christian, I'd go for Christian. Or if I'm not working with Mike, I'm going for Mike. So this is like one of those, like, moves that is beneficial for Mike and Angelina and Christian now. And it's beneficial for Angelina the most because, she benefits for the most of it. But they,
Starting point is 00:51:45 but something will need to change down the line or they need to be willing to like have a plan B and hope for the best that they are ingrained with their original tribe that once the inevitable David versus Goliath war goes, that their tribe will protect that to make sure that they're safe in the end.
Starting point is 00:52:01 And I think that from the original things that we have with Christian having a very good type thing with Devons and Surrey and whatever happens on that, Christian has people batting for Mike. Right. And we didn't really see a ton, like maybe coach, it seems based on that try, maybe Jonathan, maybe Chrissy. But Angelina really didn't have anybody except maybe Aubrey. But the thing is, within that group, Mike and Angelina are much tighter with each other than they are with Christian. And so I think that puts him in a bit of a vulnerable position as well, especially within this kind of group here. But at the same time, who are the other people coming for? Cue Stephanie, you know, and Ozzie, they're really. trying to get Angelina out. They're not trying to get Christian out.
Starting point is 00:52:46 And so it would be, that puts Angelina and Mike a little bit on the back foot to need to work with Christian as well. So I think he's actually in a pretty good position. And I think that these, I think Angelina also actually like, Christian played it well because he's like, I need to take a step back. I don't want to put my opinion out there because it's so. And this is the thing that Ozzy actually struggled with. I feel like, but it didn't really come back to bite him where Ozzy was like,
Starting point is 00:53:13 so clearly trying to protect Sarie, so clearly trying to protect Joe to where if people wanted to mount something on him, he gave them all the information. I think somebody walked away from one of his conversations being like, he really just wanted to about Sariae. And so looking at, you know, Christian, if he's not the one to say
Starting point is 00:53:30 something and be like, I'm intentionally taking a step back. They can't look at him and be like, you're protecting David versus Galilee. Let Emily come to him and say, I want to protect Angelina here. Like, that's what he wants to have happened. He doesn't have to be the one to put it out. And so I think that was great. And then Angelina, you know, coming in on the bottom here, she has to just put faith in the people close to her.
Starting point is 00:53:50 She knows she can't really, as you know, a thing or two about it, like, she can't necessarily change her fate at the bottom. So I think that she also did well. Mm-hmm. I think so. I think it was done well. I think the, I think the first, the winners of the David versus Goliath trio were Angelina and Christian and the loser was Mike, because now he's kind of seen, at least for me, he sees like the de facto hat, because he's the one who's saying, we're not going to. going and voting for each other. So I personally, like I said, I don't think this is a problem now. I think it's great because they have their four. I think this is a problem down the line with
Starting point is 00:54:20 when they get to merge it, you know? But I think also in such a big cast, I don't know if I'm threatened by, you know, either a showmance or a trio or stuff like that. It's like nice to kind to kind of have that be the focus of ire. You know, I think the in that situation, they kind of, as a conglomerate, become a lion. And I think that people need to watch up for the hyenas. And so unless you're our hyaena. then have a whooping laughing party about it. Yeah. But I think that if you're people like serene, like Rick, you know, you have to keep that
Starting point is 00:54:53 and D, I think they need to keep people like that around. Yeah. But you're forgetting that we have people who are seen as typical still, you know, 50, deserving of 50. We have people who are like Tiffany's and Rizzo's who have the, who don't have these like big, they did this or they played 20 times or they won, who that's a great. Like, why wouldn't they just say, why wouldn't they? they just say, hey, let's just go for these Davis-Grylite. That's a great thing to pitch out
Starting point is 00:55:19 right at this moment for them because they need to pitch people out too, because if you're looking and you're like, well, I don't have the resume that Surrey has because Surrey's played four times, who am I going to say? Because if I say surreal, just bounce back on me. So it's now lifting up and giving another, like there's these three things, right? You have the people who are trying to go for the hyenas quote unquote. You have the people who are trying to go for whatever poker or lines they can find, right? You have the people who are trying to go for these big names. So just like civil war. And Mike is kind of given like another option on the platter that if both sides decide,
Starting point is 00:55:49 hey, we don't want to start the civil war. Let's just go for this nice little third option, this little appetizer. It's there. Can we talk about Q's pitch to Mike? Okay. I liked pretending you have two votes. Yes. To some extent in the situation.
Starting point is 00:56:05 I did not like, why don't you just pull the coach move, you know, be the little man and vote for the third party so that we can have the majority. I could send home your best friend, Angelina, and you can vote for me. It's fine. You know, we did. Let's orchestrate a three, two, one here. Like, that was crazy to say. I, you know what?
Starting point is 00:56:29 I interpreted it as Q not understanding, like, Mike's willingness. Like, because it's like, because Mike could be saying, oh, I'm not going for David versus Goliath, but if they die, um, like, that's not. me, but I think Q was like trying to see maybe that's the feeling that Mike is getting where he's fine with Angelina going up, but he can't vote her out. So I'm going to give her, I'm going to give this option, vote for me and then you, your blood, your hands are clean, you're still with us. No one's going to think you're bad. It's great. So I don't think that was like a negative thing on Q, especially since he has no vote. He's trying to figure out all these things. Like it's not like I don't like,
Starting point is 00:57:08 I'll put that on that. No, no, it was a bad, it was a bad read. Like, so good on theory. Because, you know, everybody in their mother knows that Mike and Angelina are best friends. We're preparing for this for how long. And you don't know that Mike and Angelina are going to ride for each other like that. Okay, but how much survivor and TV does Q watch? She's a big shot realtor. Come on.
Starting point is 00:57:33 You know, you're locked in on this experience. Everybody knows who's going to be kind of close with. No, no. Especially when it's on glass. She's, I don't know if you've heard. I don't know if you if you knew this, but Angelina was on the White Lotus. Oh my gosh. Was she?
Starting point is 00:57:51 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think it is like crazy. Like just as a side note. hilarious, hilarious moment as well. That's Angelina's firing on all cylinders again. But he should have done his homework.
Starting point is 00:58:03 That was a crazy thing to say and I won't back down on that one. No, I'm not, like I said, I don't think that. I think you should have realized that Mike was very gung-ho, especially on Angelina, but I don't hate the strategy. I just hate who he did the strategy on. Right, right, fair enough. Fair enough. I mean, that could maybe work on Christian if he's like
Starting point is 00:58:22 the third wheel of the third wheel of Mike and Angelina. But I thought it was funny where Mike was like, yes, thank you for permission to vote for me. Yes. Emily being the bell of the ball was honestly just such a, you know, we have not had enough Emily Flippin this season.
Starting point is 00:58:38 It's so true today. This was Emmy's breakout. Breakout. I can hear her. and I loved it. Yeah, we want visibility five for the rest of the season. I want also her to like, I want to see her Clock Tower mind go because she really was all over the place here. And this gave me like, like, it would be really funny to see Zach Werner play here because seeing him and her play together on Clock Tower, I could see this coming out. But Emily going to every group and being like, I'm with you, I'm with you, I'm with you.
Starting point is 00:59:03 But they all want to be with her. And I love that for her because she's having the opposite experience of Survivor 45 where everyone's like at the start of the season was like, we don't really think you'd be a good alliance member. And now everybody wants her and she gets to choose. And I think she's actually making, like, yes, the path to get there might be a bit curvy and messy. But I think she chose the right option. And she was able to pull Ozzy into it.
Starting point is 00:59:29 For the point where Cosby is saying, Kew's doing the, did you do this to Ozzie? And he's like, yeah, I did it. Or were you number five that got brought in here? No. But I love that for Emily. I love how she was able to go and bring in the connection where she's like, wait a second. It's like Christian and me, we're doing these locks stuff. I need someone for myself.
Starting point is 00:59:50 I need that person in that back pocket. I need to start to ready to get my options out in this game so that I'm not dependent on someone fully. And going and working with Ozzy, I think was just so wonderful. I also do want to mention, though, how funny it was that Q said, I have an extra vote. What if I get back to Ozzie? you have an extra vote? That's weird. That's funny because I'm pretty sure you have no vote.
Starting point is 01:00:17 But then Ozzy was in this predicament because he told no one about this extra vote. So he's not supposed to know that Q has a vote because he won the challenge. So it's like that Ozzy kind of knows Q doesn't have a vote. But I wonder if like Ozzy somehow managed to bring it into conversation
Starting point is 01:00:32 that Q does not have a vote in a way that still protected him. Because he doesn't have extra vote. Actually, he gave that to Surrey. He said, thank you, Queen. This is yours. here you go. He could have used that extra vote this week
Starting point is 01:00:42 if he wanted to split up David versus Goliath. But clearly he doesn't care. Clearly he's not worried about those three. Like he's fine about where he is in this position. Because he knows Mike. They met at the streets of L.A. We know that about...
Starting point is 01:00:57 Connections. Connections and real relationships. And people who roller skate down the street. What does that happen? It's a super people. Don't worry. Thank you to the world. One fan who will understand that.
Starting point is 01:01:11 Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. Didn't see hand roller skating when we went there, but maybe next time. No, no, that's fair. And I think where do you think that the tribe, so who of this tribe, who won out tonight and who really did?
Starting point is 01:01:28 I mean, it's pretty obvious. Stephanie is on the losing end of things. Yes. I think that Ozzy took an L but is making it into a W. But I think that the biggest winner tonight was probably obviously Angelina, because she survived and Christian. I love how you asked a question and then immediately answered it and didn't hear for me first. That's the funny part.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Yeah. Stephanie obviously is the loser. She was blindsided. She was so surprised that there was only one K-Vo and that vote was hers. And then I don't like, off for Ozzy, I don't even think he's like he lost per se. Because it's like if your plan is just to get stepping out next, then there's no blood done. No dead men don't tell any tales. Stephanie can't yell about how much she hates you because she's gone.
Starting point is 01:02:08 So for me, I like, I think it's. just like, Ozzie was like, yeah, would he have had more power and agency on the other side? Yes, but then think about the future. Like he's rocked in, well, rock solid right now with Ceri, has this working relationship now with Emily and Christian. So he's like, why would I need this Stephanie thing? Like, how do I know that she really wants to work with me? Like this kind of combination that she has. So I don't really hate it.
Starting point is 01:02:28 When Angelina, Queen, we get to see her again. We got to see her with a little cute jacket, mind you. My girl has her jacket. My girl is warm at night. My girl gets to sleep at night, nice and warm, so she is the, and she gets to still use her jacket. So win, win, win to her. Went to Christian because imagine you're,
Starting point is 01:02:48 someone from your tribe was like, I don't trust Christian. We never heard his name, ever. Never. No one even thought about him. No one, not even a wink, not even a whisper. So he's obviously, it went too, because it's like he still gets to,
Starting point is 01:02:59 he gets to get, he has his cake of day versus five, and he gets to eat it too, where he still has that Ozzie and Emily He'll look. So he really has all these options here. Mike doing great because right now, and the way that it is, Mike is steering the ship right now. He has all the options. He gets to choose who's next and Stephanie. And then after he can figure out, like, okay, I have my three for sure.
Starting point is 01:03:19 I have Angelina. And maybe like at the end, he's like, actually, I don't need Emily. I'm going to pull an Ozzie and look up Emily out. I can see him, like, having the steering position. And especially, like, I don't think, like, they're a pretty strong group and they still have some strong people that just lost Q. So they have breathing room in the future. and I can still see that working on. Do we think, so I think I agree with you completely.
Starting point is 01:03:42 I feel like, firstly, I don't think this is a tribe. I think that they could win from here on. I really think that Colby, Genevieve, that tribe is going to be losers here. But if they do lose again, I don't see a good way out for Stephanie LaGrosa here. Because Q was her main alliance. Yeah. You know, she took a shot on Angelina. which is technically taking a shot on Mike as well and Christian peripherally.
Starting point is 01:04:10 Emily made her choice and walked away from her. So why go back now? And then Ozzie is the only one who has some sort of relationship with her where he could go back to her. But he doesn't have the numbers. So. But why would you go back? Well, why would you? I don't see.
Starting point is 01:04:30 They know how the idol works. They know. Like it's like they know how the idol works. and like Ozzy knows because they're right now on Genithee's island, right? Yes. So they know since Audey knows there's no idol here.
Starting point is 01:04:45 So why would you go back to Stephanie? She has nothing. She's a sitting duck. If you believe, okay, at worst, we're going to lose one more immunity. So we only need to do more. They could technically get one from another tribe. Oh, that's true. That's true.
Starting point is 01:05:00 That's true. It's true. Yeah. It's true. Yeah. I digress. But regardless, it's not like she's going after him. Yeah, she's not going after him. And who's going to give it? Like, who are the people, like, who are the people who are going to give it to Stephanie? And are they people who find ice? You know? It's right. And it's just really rare, I feel like, to have a situation on a tribe where it's like kind of a nobody's best interest to save you. Like, if you look at Angelina and Mike, you know, they probably think they're going to get the jump on Christian and Emily through Ozzy. And then Christian and Emily think that they could get the jump on Mike and Angelina through Ozzy. So do they, do any of them really need her? Like, I'm not sure that they do. They do. And I'm not sure that they do. They do. And they do. And I'm not sure that they do. They do. And. And. Do they do. And So I think that she's in a really, really tough spot. But I don't think that they'll necessarily go to tribal. Yeah. So I'm like, Stephanie will go.
Starting point is 01:05:43 Like the way I see it, Stephanie makes merge if they don't lose. If they lose, Stephanie is gone. But I, and I think it's like, I honestly think there's like a 70% to 70% chance that they don't go back. And then it goes on the other tribes. Let's let's pull our place right now. And then we can give the fishy. I mean. Okay.
Starting point is 01:06:04 Perfect. Yes, the Mary Omish, the Mario Mish, I'll think about it. Yeah, so Stephanie on this tribe, on Jonathan's tribe. I'm so bad with names, so I'm going with people. That was Celah now, the new, the new Celia. Aubrey or Tiffany? That's not the right. Well, we'll go to that tribe then.
Starting point is 01:06:28 We'll go to that tribe. Okay, so the Aubrey, that's like new Calo tribe. That's blue. That's blue. I was thinking blue. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. So you think, sorry, who do you think? Aubrey or Tiffany.
Starting point is 01:06:41 You have to pick one. You can't pick both. Um, Tiffany. I say Tiffany. Yeah. I say Tiffany. I say Tiffany. I don't.
Starting point is 01:06:50 Yeah. And then from the other tribe. Ooh. Okay. You go first. I think Rizzo. Because I think Ceri is going to charm her way in there. And Charlie has a vendetta.
Starting point is 01:07:05 And Charlie has the numbers. Yes, I think so too. I think Rizzo is Riz dead. That was pretty bad. Terrible, terrible. That's pretty bad. But yeah, Charlie's like, I can't, he's like, Rizzo probably a nice guy, but he's dead to me. We did Jonathan watch.
Starting point is 01:07:28 We did Canada watch halfway. Like, we were happy. We love Mother Beef. But Camilla, quick check in. She's doing well. There's nothing terrible to report at the moment. She's in a good spot, killing the puzzles. Mother Quake. Mother Quake, Mother Genevieve from Winnipeg.
Starting point is 01:07:45 You know, she's the only person who made me go to Winnipeg. And that's saying a lot. And the Canadians understand that is saying a lot. Truly, truly, truly, true, okay. Who gets the Omari Ann. The O'Marian Award. Yes, oh, yes, Omerian Award. Ooh.
Starting point is 01:08:03 Okay, we'll have to deliberate. do you have one person in mind or do you have so the chaos side of me wants to give it to Emily because ultimately everybody wanted she was that girl everybody wanted to be with her or be her and she ultimately made the right decision
Starting point is 01:08:20 and got what she wanted was it messy along the way absolutely but I think you know it was like high it was it was big swings it was a roller coaster it was high high low lows Christian was I feel like you know, moderate high,
Starting point is 01:08:36 but he didn't have the Emily push that she did, you know? No, I agree with. I think, I think though Marianne Award goes to Emily. She comes to be a little chaotic too. Yes, it has to be a little chaotic. And then look at this girl. She comes in, tries to kill her number one allies game,
Starting point is 01:08:53 goes into this new alliance, takes it and immediately flips, goes with Angelina, tell her everything. Nobody suggested with her. And they weren't like, fuck Emily. No one said her name. They all said, yeah, we got to quit this girl.
Starting point is 01:09:10 So the American woman goes to Emily. Emily, please contact us. There's a bit of fun to it too. There's a bit of fun to it. You know, we can't just be, we can't just be boring. No. Like Stephen Fishback. Stephen Fishback.
Starting point is 01:09:21 Just kidding. Check out his new book. I've started it. I have not read a book voluntarily. Like a non or a fiction book since grade eight. So this is going to be the first one. Okay. I'm going to the beach.
Starting point is 01:09:33 I'm going to the beach for a week. This week that started this Saturday. And it's my beach book. And I have it personally signed by Stephen the first. You got your signed? Yes, I did. I will tell you later because I don't want to distract him. Please.
Starting point is 01:09:47 But he's not the only writer that we have gone and overtaken because we have a new writer in the block. And his name. Oh, Rochester. Oh, Roshantzino. Yes. Yes. I need to get that book too. I want one signed.
Starting point is 01:10:00 Oh, my gosh. Yeah. You just got to be like me, have connections and sign. Oh, is there a little QR code popping up to show us about this beautiful book? I love our books. Be a book reader. I'm trying to read 50 books, 52 the books this year. I cannot wait to read Escape as one of them.
Starting point is 01:10:17 I think it's going to be like my 14th book of the year. I'm very excited. And Rob's book, and I'm listening to Terran's book. So we're in the weeds. I'm going to do more reading this year than I've ever done before. There you go. Kind of concerning that you've read so little. My goal is three books this year.
Starting point is 01:10:35 It's Terrence and Rob's, and that's it. There you go. So you can shove your 53 books up your ass. Whoa. This isn't a competition. It's just an encouragement for people to read. Okay, perfect. And one of this is a lot of your book.
Starting point is 01:10:49 It's true. And then also, you know, you might be wondering, wow, why are we seeing this amazing duo who's the best thing to come out of the new era? It's because Stephen and Rob are right now in L.A. doing a live show as we speak. Well, no, actually, because they're in L.A. It's three hours behind.
Starting point is 01:11:07 But for us, Toronto people, you guys showed up to our app, and Toronto is sold out. Sold out. But they're working on maybe getting some more, but we'll have to see. And anybody who needs a place to stay, they can stay at Marianne's mother's place. Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 01:11:25 Please don't invite my mother's basement to other people, but so kind. But we're so excited to see you there. I will be there. I will be there. Obviously, Rob will be there. And there's going to be so many other cool survival people. I'm going to make me this come.
Starting point is 01:11:40 Yes, yes. I hear there's going to be a little bit of a, Canadian takeover. Mother quake. Mother quake. The Camilla, Terry, everybody's going to be there. So don't be square.
Starting point is 01:11:55 Millet, excellent. Who? Camilla Tube, excellent. Yeah. And so if this is news to either Genevieve or Camilla, when I say this, we're going to have to make this happen because I've said it. We're going to have to make it work. We'll have to get Kane in there too.
Starting point is 01:12:11 We'll try to find Caleb in. It's going to be a Canada takeover, baby. It's going to be so good April 22nd. So we're very excited for that. Well, yeah, I think this is, we're at end. So, Omar, any final thoughts about the episode? Final thoughts about the future thing. Final thoughts on the deep.
Starting point is 01:12:26 Great season so far. Great season so far. So excited and honored to. be here with you. We're like the unhinged, on TV ready version of Kyle and Camilla. So it's great to represent on the podcast scene with you, Millionarian, my best. Same with you as well, too. I'm so happy to know you, especially because, you know, we went on an international trip together
Starting point is 01:12:51 and we didn't kill each other, even though you did want to kill me at one time when I was being a little bit of boo-bum-bum. Only once. Only once. And I did deserve it. so I'm not going to, I'm not even going to try to defend myself because I did deserve that one. But so glad to know you. And like Jeff said, if you want to be on our half like us, you have to apply.
Starting point is 01:13:12 Yeah, exactly. Because next season, we're giving away one guest host spot on no one else to one after it. Absolutely. This is not redeemable by the actual show. runners of this show. No, let's make it. No, there's terms of conditions. There's terms of conditions.
Starting point is 01:13:32 You have to make it to merge. So we're going to add some pressure on you. So if you are on 12-2, you make it to merge and you are already, like you're aware of Rob has a podcast, and you're listening to this before. Don't let us know because, you know, don't break your contract
Starting point is 01:13:48 for anything. We want you to be on the season. But like, do some sort of like notes that says it and screenshot it to us when you make the merge. To be like, I'm on, I'm redeeming it. And I will personally go to Stephen's house and I will eat Stephen so that Rob meets to find a new co-host. And I will be like, Rob, I've heard of this great player so-and-so, and you will be on the show. Yeah, well, I was actually referring to any fan that wanted to apply and make the message Sam Moore.
Starting point is 01:14:16 And try to redeem that coupon. Okay, so you see, too different ways. You can't cash. Oh, well, I can cash some checks. And I can't because of what you did. Oh my goodness, only for the benefit of me, though. You don't even say one thing about my orange pussy over here. Your little cat, it's a great tabby.
Starting point is 01:14:40 Okay, I think we're losing the plot here. So before people start to burn down our houses and be like, wait a while I watch about Survivor, we will see you guys next week or on April 22nd. Well, you won't see us next week. You'll see Stephen and Rob. Thankfully, I know some people are cheering now. And they have the game figured out. Well, they do know it all.
Starting point is 01:15:02 And with that, you guys have a wonderful night. And goodbye. Say bye, Omar. Goodbye and good luck. Getting ready for a game means being ready for anything. Like packing a spare stick. I like to be prepared. That's why I remember 988, Canada's suicide crisis helpline.
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