RHAP: We Know Survivor - Survivor AU: Australia V World Kass Bastarache Exit Interview 

Episode Date: September 10, 2025

Survivor AU: Australia V World Kass Bastarache Exit Interview We Know Global Survivor host Shannon Guss speaks to Kass Bastarache from Survivor AU V World. Never miss a minute of RHAP’s extensive Global Survivor coverage! LISTEN: Subscribe to the Survivor Global podcast feed WATCH:  Watch and subscribe to the podcast on YouTube SUPPORT:  Become a RHAP Patron for bonus […]

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and then it just came out. But now I'm in talks with Luke to hopefully do something at a point, even if it's next week. So hopefully something with Luke and then Surrey, what's happening with three? They're telling me Friday Australia time, right? So I need everyone to get together and pray. Pray to three. That's where he comes onto the podcast and that this is something that happens. But basically, I clearly don't even know what's happening. So it's hard for me to plug it. but if you just stay subscribed or subscribe to the we know global survivor feed, then you'll get all of it.

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Hi. I have so much to say to you. congratulations. I know you're pregnant and I hope you're doing well. Thank you so much for coming on to the podcast. Thank you, Shannon. It's nice to meet you. I've heard so much about you. And I've watched so much of you. 67 episodes a couple of months ago. Will you tell Andre that I love him? What? Andre? I watched your whole season. I will tell him. He's going to be really happy. Your whole season was honestly a wild ride start to finish. And And I'm really glad I got the chance to watch it and to get to know you through these two seasons.

I'd love to ask about, firstly, I think, the International Alliance was Pinky Alliance with Tommy and Lisa. How did that form? What was that relationship like? Like, it was a natural alliance in that World Tribe because we were from smaller edition of Survivors. So it was just natural for us to get together and try to take down as many Americans. as Americans as possible and as many Aussie as possible. And just like it was, it made sense for us to stick together until shit hit the fans in episode seven.

But it made sense for us that we just stick together and go as far as possible in international alliance. Yeah. So where did Pav and Surrey fit into that? Because obviously you also have this like women's alliance. Yes. So how did you kind of see that priority playing out down the stretch? For me, there were those two natural alliance because, like, there was a majority of women in World Tribe.

There was a majority of international people in World Tribe. So those two alliances, for me, I wanted to keep them both as long as possible. It was my strategy in the game. And I realized at some point, also watching the episodes that you cannot work on both on two alliance, on the same level. And I realized that Tommy felt a bit apart because of the Girl Alliance. And I realized also that the girls like Siri and poverty felt threatened by the international alliance.

So yes, that's what I was trying to do, keep both of those alliances alive as long as possible. But like, I couldn't do it, apparently. Well, Tommy and Lisa said that you and Lisa had pushed back when Tommy was. coming for poverty at that final eight when you're going to go home and it wasn't going to happen because you wanted to keep poverty. What were your plans for poverty? Like you say you wanted to keep it as long week because she says that she felt the internationals were coming for her. Like how accurate was that even if it wasn't going to be that night? Yes. So poverty, I was really aiming at poverty this entire season. And my plan with her was to stay as close as possible to

her like stay close to your enemy so you know when to strike and that was really my plan with poverty to make her trust me and i had a lot of conversation with her because people were going to her like cass is coming for you cast is coming for you uh so i had a lot of conversation with poverty trying to convince her like i'm with you i'm with you i'm with you like let's stay together i just wanted to keep her trust uh so that was my plan with parvety Tommy, when he pitched us the poverty plan, at first I was on board with it. Like, I thought he had the number with Shawnee, Luke and Lisa, but Lisa just abandoned with that plan. And the only thing also that I didn't like about Tommy's plan, it was Tommy's plan.

Like, it was not my plan. And for me, that friend of me that I had, that rivalry that I had with poverty, it had to be my move. Like, I really did want poverty to be my move. So that was one of the reason why I didn't, like, I wasn't on board with this vote. And I was going to vote Shoney on that tribal. Yeah, so why were people saying you were coming for her? Like, was that a pure lie or had you put her name out a little bit? Yes, it wasn't a lie.

I mean, I tried to test waters with the Aussie. I remember talking to Janine a little bit like I was trying to be solo I talked to Janine a little bit I talked to Luke I talked to Kirby also and all three of them went to see Parvety and to tell her

that I'm coming for her so I was like okay how can I work with Yazzie when the first thing they do is like burning me with poverty I knew that they were trying to like separate us like it's okay but like yes i was trying to go for poverty but it was so hard because even tommy like tony went to see poverty to tell my name so like it was really hard yeah i noticed

with poverty you know she made this deal where you dropped out in that endurance challenge and she said if it's ever us to again which was honestly probably a likelihood that she would drop out and then it felt like she didn't honor that even though you were at that point meant to be allies. So did you clock that? Like, what was happening with that deal? No, no, no, no. Actually, um, okay, so at first I didn't want to take the deal because I want to win that challenge. I'm a very competitive person. I wanted to win that challenge. Um, but when I was about to drop, I knew I was about to drop. Like in the seconds, I was about to drop. So at that point, I told myself, okay, Cass, just accept the deal. Uh, you're going to like build an even stronger

alliance with poverty, you're going to build even more trust. So that's why I took the deal, knowing that she wouldn't let me win. Like, there's so, there's not a lot of challenges in a 16-day game. So of course, she won't let me win another like individual immunity. And when we had that other moment, I just knew that I was going to win that challenge. I knew it. I was looking at her. She was sweating. She was having some difficulties. So I knew I was going to win it. So I didn't bring the deal on the table. Yeah. Well, I mean, having watched Quebec, I came back to the podcast and I said, Cass is one of the best endurance players I've ever seen. So thank you for proving me right on that because I think you matched it with poverty and maybe even a little

bit more, which is the highest honor. To talk about when you go home with the bluff and the idol and that moment in poverty, spoken about it from her perspective, where she takes out the idol stealer, what's going through your head at that moment and you're playing it for Lisa like talk me through that whole thing yeah so so at first I was like as I told you I was going to vote for Shawnee and everything like went wild I understood that the plan had shift but because I knew that poverty didn't trust Lisa I knew that Luke and Lisa didn't go well together and that Luke was leading the Aussie vote, I really thought that all the votes would be on Lisa. I think it was like the logical thing to do for all of them because they didn't trust her. And when she

pulled out that parchment, I told myself, wow, that's a huge advantage in the game. Like being able to steal an idol after it's been like revealed. So I look at poverty and I tell her like, I'm going to play this for Lisa and it's going to be Luke so for me it would make sense for her to flush my idol let me play it flush my idol and maybe get

one of the biggest player out there Luke out of the game so that's why I thought it makes so much sense for her that she would let me do that move that yes I didn't like know that the votes were on me and you

saw my season I played safe with my idol. I keep it until I was to secure a place in the top four. I didn't want to do that in that game. Like coming into Australian Survivor, I told myself, I'm not playing a safety

game. I'm going to play a risky game, ball game. I'm going to gamble when I need to gamble. So at that tribal council I was not going to play my idol at first, but when everything went crazy, I told myself, okay,

I have to do something even if like I have to go home I have to do something I have to have big move on my resume if I have to go to final I need really big move on that resume because I'm playing with fierce people with legends of Survivor

so that's what I was trying to say I was trying to save an ally that would help me to get further in the game after that Lisa I thought was my ally at that time she also threw me under the bus so that and I was trying to take out one of the biggest player Luke on this island

so if that move would have worked that would have been gold on my resume yeah I mean I totally get it from Quebec you and Jislaine crushed it but together and then he wins and I love the way you were trying to individualize in the season to get to the end to get a win which can't really be said for a lot of the other players

on the season who go to the end with the Pavia as an example And now that we're having you a week later, it's so great that we can get some elements from the jury as well. So from your perspective, as a juror, how did you see that the jury, because we didn't have any jury villa videos? So how did you see that the jury was looking at the finalist? Like, was it close between like a poverty and Luke? Did Luke have much of a chance? Like, Surrey and poverty. Like, how did that final four kind of be, how were they seen by the jury in your eyes?

Of course, Lisa would have vote for Surrey? You know that's a love story. So that's what I've been like a luck to vote. Yeah. I also knew that there was like in Sarah, there was like a patriotic vibe, maybe a little more than in Kirby's. And that was my fear, like coming into that season where seven Aussie already knew themselves or the Aussie all play for the same cause like Australia and world.

We are most like divided because we don't came from the same. part of the world. So that was my, what I was afraid, that if there's an Aussie on the final tree that the Aussie would vote for them, I knew that there was this patriotic side a bit with Sarah, but like I'm glad to see that all of the other players, I think, voted for the person that, uh, for them was deserving the most, the title of best survivor player of all time. And I think that they were, the three of them were really great. Sirie would have been great also. But Parvety definitely played the base game. Yeah, was it always going to be poverty for you? You asked such a great question there about what jury votes, but yes, she answered

it well as well. Yeah, she answered it well. And meanwhile, Janine gave me really such a political and big answer. And I was like, Janine, I need four names. Give me four names. You have to commit yourself. So Parvety, she just had the right answers to every question. So my vote was open. Like, it was open for sure. But at the same time, like, I saw Parvite's game from Front Row. And it was impeccable from the beginning to the end. So I didn't have the choice.

And like, I respect the player that she is so much and she owns our move. She owns the way she was playing. So, yeah, for me, it was like, clear. that Parvety was that winner. Because Surrey and Parvety were really scared of Luke in the Final Tribal Council. Was there that much push for Luke before the Final Tribal Council

and maybe it fell away? Or was that not as much? Because we didn't see that as much, but they seemed to think that. Yes. I don't know why. I really think that maybe it's because there were some Ozzy on Good Joey

and you really think that it could play for them. But at the same time, Luke, would have like Luke is talking so much in the season that he's not doing the crazy move that he could have done. I would have loved to see Luke do those crazy moves like give his idol to Shawnee or something like that. That would have maybe give them like some power or some momentum in the final. He didn't. So I don't know like honestly I watched the episode after my my elimination and for me like yes Luke won a lot of

the challenges. So maybe that gave him some credibility. But like for me, even watching the episode, it was clear that poverty has an edge on Luke. Yeah. You were like he didn't take out the person everyone was talking about, played his idol at the final five when he didn't need it. You played that game and you didn't get to win. So why should he get to win? Yeah. I knew that. I know what. Yeah. What about the language barrier? I mean, Tommy kind of spoke about how it was maybe more difficult out there. Definitely in the moment with like maybe even with the bluff, like how were you kind of keeping track of it? Although, I mean, the fact that you were doing it in a second language is incredible. I think your English is better than mine. But like, yeah, how was that out there?

That's so hard. So, so, so, so hard. Survivor is a game of social connection, of communication and doing this in a language that's not yours. It's really difficult. And when your brain lacks food and sleep it the second language is just like go the way they vanish it's not a priority so English was hard and in that tribal episode 7 in our tribal

when everything went crazy and we were trying to defend ourselves Tommy and I that was so hard because we were trying to expose our version of what was happening the Aussie were doing the same thing but lying

but because They speak English. Oh, sorry, it's my dog. All right. He's crazy. Pasmelo? Sorry. All good.

Okay. He's coming. Do I continue? Yes, yes. Yes, about the background sound. Yeah. So, uh, we're, was that about the double

travel. So we were trying to defend ourselves but like we were trying to explain ourselves to Syrian poverty and Siri just told us like you're giving us two different versions but because the Aussie are telling the stories in the same

words that's a green flag for me and you guys are telling the story in different words two times in different words so for me that's a lie and we were like I was like that's not a lot It's just because those are the words that come to my mind right now because English is not my first language.

So that's not a lie. I'm really trying to be true to yourself right now, but that's crazy and it's easier on one-on-one. I had multiple time during the season that I had to convince Parvety to trust me. And I had numerous conversation with her one-on-one. And because of the non-verbal, like a majority of a conversation is non-verbal. Right. So because of that non-verbal, the fact that I can connect with her, look at her in the eyes, I was able to convince her. But during a crazy moment in a tribal where you have to defend yourself with other people that speak English so much better than you do, it's so difficult.

So, yeah, it was crazy. Yeah, but when you said you can't lie in English, that one was a lie, though, right? Ironically, we were lying there in English, right? It was a lie, yeah. You can lie, just like you lie in other words. Yeah. Well, who did you know coming? Could you say when you vote for poverty, she helped you fall in love with the game?

Did you know many of the Australians? Like, who did you come in familiar with? Yes, I did my homework before coming to Australian Survivor. I knew all of them except Sarah. So I knew which one of them were my competitors and all they. play and what's their game. So I knew what was going after. Yeah, and what

about the world tribe? The world tribe, I knew like Tony, Syrian poverty for sure. I didn't know all of the others like Lisa, Tommy, Rob, it was like complete strangers for me. So yeah, that's hard because

coming from a smaller edition of Survivor you come to this game with no pre-existing links with the other person. Parvety and they had the chance to have that natural alliance already made. The Aussie already knew themselves so them well. So it was difficult to come from that small edition knowing nobody, but at the same time, nobody knows you.

So it's easier to fly under the radar at a certain point. So yeah, it was like art to navigate through all those relationships. Yeah, well, you could watch Lisa, Rob and Tommy seasons in like the space it would take you to watch one Survivor, Quebec. So if you ever want to go back, it's pretty much all combined the length of survival because you guys, you played a long season. It was very impressive. Well, it's been so great to get to know you, Cass, over the last couple of months. Seriously, tell Andre, I love him.

Dominique. Oh, my God. Like, you included, I've meeting so many players through Survival, Quebec that I really have enjoyed. So it's been a wonderful experience. Good luck with the baby. And thank you so much again for coming on to the podcast. us. Thank you, Shannon. It's been the pleasure. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Tribe Spoke.

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