RHAP: We Know Survivor - Survivor AU: Brains v Brawn II Kickoff

Episode Date: January 22, 2025

Today, Shannon is joined by Rob Cesternino to kick off the upcoming season: Survivor AU: Brains v Brawn II.

Hey everybody, what's going on? Rob Cestradino back and we have got a big special to kick off a big season and year of global survivor coverage here on our AJP and I am joined by our chief survivor global correspondent, of course, the winner of the Survivor 47 draft. I could say for the first time. It's Shannon. Gus Shannon. How are you? That sounded so strange coming out of your mouth.

I wasn't expecting it. I should be wearing my tiara. I will in the draft. I had to took it off specifically for this podcast. First time I've taken it off in months. But Rob, very excited to be here to kick off. Australian Survivor, Brainfeed Braun 2, Brainiac and Brawnia. Yes. it off in months, but Rob very excited to be here to kick off. Australian survivor, brain feed, Braun to brain and Brawnia. Yes. Okay. So we have a big season of Australian

survivor, which is going to kick off what? February 17th. Yes. Which is February 16th for you guys. Okay. So it's going to be just around the corner and Australian survivor has been so much fun. So we're just here to set up a little bit of what to expect. Maybe why you should jump into Australian survivor if you have not yet partook in any Australian survivor or any global survivor coverage here with Shannon and just what's coming up between now and then. And we have a very exciting plan on how we're going to cover this season. Maybe would you say that this season is going to be brawnier coverage than ever before?

I mean, I hope it'll be brainy. I like we always try to go for the brainy, you know, content on global survival. Would I say that we go for brawny content? Um, well, and how would you characterize like what that it's just robust, robust. Yeah. I thought you meant like can lift weights, which I can't, I can't, I'm not brawny. Um, but yeah, sure. Robust and brainy.

Yes. Okay. So that's going to be, um, coming up in just a couple of weeks. And Shannon has a lot of preseason shows that are going to be coming up plan. But I guess I don't want to bury the lead that we have. This is our biggest season of Australian survivor coverage, because for the first time, you know, Shannon has covered every single week of Australian Survivor for several years now. I don't know if it's quite been seven, right?

It's been about, well, that I've been podcasting, I'm coming up to seven actually, coming up to the several. And then for Australian Survivor since 2019, so that's six. Six, okay, one, this was just short of several years. We don't have several. Yeah. And Every week Shannon has brought you coverage of Australian Survivor, but this time in 2025 We are Doing

Things we've never done before Shannon is going to be covering every episode of Australian survivor. Yeah, that's the hope. That's the hope, right? Like the live feed updates of Australian survivor, because it's kind of like that, right? It's kind of like watching them in a house all the time, except it's on TV and not in a house. Um, yeah, I mean, we'll still working out the logistics, but our hope is to do episodic recaps and then like kind of some weekly content and like a feedback capacity. We've always had the exit. So we'll do that as well. Also I have all the time. That's what I always say. Quit your jobs, quit your jobs for this just to keep up with it. And that's what I'm really excited about it.

Okay. And just so people don't get in too much of a panic, Shannon will have a shorter recap after each episode followed by then a feedback show with a guest coming up. And then we'll have a shorter recap after each episode followed by then a feedback show with a guest coming up. And I think this is really exciting because I think there's so many times in covering Australian survivor sometimes in, and if you've never watched Australian survivor, the episodes come out, what is it in Australia? It's what Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. Yeah.

They usually start at like on a Monday and then follow up every week from a Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. Yeah. And so it's three days in a row. And sometimes like a big thing happens in the first day. And it's like, wow, oh my God, this changes everything. And then by the time you get through three episodes, the thing that happened on Monday turned out to be not as important or we kind of forgot about what's going on. But now every single episode will have the ability to have its own podcast. Yeah. And I think

it's been frustrating for me because like the last two seasons of Australian Survivor, for those who haven't watched or kept up with the lore, like I've called the last two seasons, which was Heroes V Villains and Titans V Rebels, the best back to back, you know, double in global survivor history. And there was hardly a bad episode. There was hardly a mere episode. Like in Titans v. Rebels, I don't know that there was one. So it's like, it's so much content to pack

into like weekly recaps. So like every episode needs it to do, hopefully in zippier ways, right? So we're going to do like a quicker recap that people can listen to the next day before the next episode or, you know, for the US audience, like check out the episode when you get up and check out the recap.

And then, you know, keep it moving to the next day. And then every week kind of look back on the week with other stuff and like feedback content and like all the other things we missed. But like get to the headlines every night because I think it just like, it frustrates me. Yeah. So I think that's a great way to attempt to cover it. And then Shannon also talks to all of the players that get eliminated when we have all of our elimination episodes. And so

we will bring those to you as well. And Shannon, I think in the past has been doing all of the Australian survivor podcasts, just audio only. But here we are on video. Shannon, does that mean what I think it does? I don't know what you're going with this. Are you gonna be on video? Oh, right, yes, yes. Okay, great, that, yes.

I mean, we did video check-ins. What did you think I meant? No idea. I don't know. I don't know where we could go. Yes, we're gonna be on video. It's what you just said. I mean, we did the check-ins video. It's what you just said.

I mean, we did the check-ins on video and we're doing more video. And I feel like, you know, it's been about relinquishing control for me to be on video. And we did 47 coverage on video. And now we're going to do all of this on YouTube, the YouTube crowd. And it's just like we're just making it bigger and better than ever. Brainy-er, brawny-ier, bigger, better, bulkier. Do you have more B words? Bulkier? Yeah, like more robust.

Yes. Yeah. Bustier. Whoa, I'm not gonna say that Shannon. Yeah, that's fine. Okay. Redacted. Redacted.

We can't edit it because it's video. Just keep it moving, just keep it moving. That's what it's worth. That's right, that's right. Okay. And of course, you can subscribe to all of this Just keep it moving. That's what I've learned. That's right. That's right. Okay. Yeah. And of course, you can subscribe to all of this in our podcast feed when you go to We Know...

What should we call it? We Know Global Survivor? We're doing this now on the board? Shannon, this is us. This is us. What do you want? What should the URL be? Usually we do production meetings like for episodes.

I don't know that we do like full scale strategy meetings, but that's great. We see it's bigger, it's better, it's brawnier. Yeah, we know, we know. What about just we know global.com? What's that though? You shouldn't have the word survivor from an SEO perspective. I don't think anybody's doing SEO on this. We just want some something snappy, something zippy for people to remember. What you think international survivor haphaz wasn't zippy? Why are we doing this on the bodyguard?

I think what should we like, are we polling this to be like, I think we know global survivor. We know you don't agree. I'm just wondering, is it too many letters? It's a lot of letters, but it's less than International Cyber Hap-Up Speed. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Okay, you don't seem convinced it's your network, Rob, you do you. Shannon, I want you to be happy. Well, this is crazy podcast content. Yeah, okay. All right, well, okay, look. Go to- Oh, now people will be weighing in.

Yeah, people will weigh in. It'll be too late, but it'll be too late. Shannon, okay, look, go to- Oh, now people will be weighing in. Yeah, people will weigh in. But it'll be too late. But it'll be too late. Shannon, that's what I like. I like when people weigh in, okay? That's how we came up with the Surrey cap. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And we called it Surrey Watch, remember that week?

And then we came back the next week and people were like, it should be called the Surrey cap. And I was like, oh, we screwed up. And that's why- That's what this is. This is back and forth with the audience. This is how we make magic. Yeah, it is good. I mean, not too much.

Like, you know, send your best ideas, not all the ideas. Yeah. I think we know Global Survivor. I think we do. OK. We know Global Survivor. We'll have the link in the show notes. If you want to get subscribed, you can do that

and then get all of Shannon's podcasting about international survivor seasons there at we know globalsurvivor.com. Yeah, okay, great. Wait, no, so that's decided? Look, we can always get another URL. Okay, great. Okay.

Cool. So great, everyone's in this production meeting. Yeah, and also if people are wondering, how do I watch Survivor Australia? How do I do that? Well, look, there's lots of different ways that people are able to watch, of course, of watch it on television if you live in Australia. But for people around the world, for the global community of Survivor fans, you know, we do try to make it as easy as possible for our patrons to watch the shows, whether it's watch parties, so many ways that people get to watch Australian survivor. And so for the patrons of Rob's a podcast, we do try to make it a, a simple as

possible so you can enjoy everyone's wonderful favorite coverage that Shannon provides from Australian survivor. Thank you. And I also think, you know, a lot of people are talking about like, should they go back and watch? Like people are excited about the year. Obviously Australia V World is coming up later in the year. So it's like a big year for Australia. Can you set that up just in case people are maybe don't know about that?

Yeah. So later in the year at an undisclosed time, we don't know when August, September, October, maybe around there. There's gonna be Australia V World and there are cast that's floating around. Probably don't Google it. But they filmed that already and that the announced cast members are Tony, Pavi and Saree, which is crazy. Like I spent all my time thinking about like, oh my God, imagine if I get to interview them and then thinking about things that will go wrong that I won't get to interview them. Like I just have to make it to them, you know, but I don't know what's going to happen. Anyway, I digress. And then what was it? George, Johnny and Kirby were announced as the three Australian representatives so far. So that's a little bit of an exhibition

match between global survivors. So that's happening later in the year. So people are really excited about Australian survivors. Like what should we go back and watch in Australian survivor? And I will say this, when Australian survivors is good, it is so good. Like it's honestly incredible. And when it's bad, it's not, it's, it's atrocious. Okay. And there's no middle ground. I will say five and a half of the nine seasons they've done, because

it's the big 10th season, but five and a half seasons are excellent. So I highly recommend 2017. And you can do it in order 2017, 2019, the second half of 2018. But I guess watch it all. Maybe put that at the bottom of this list, but I still think watch it. Brains V Brawn 1, Heroes V Villains, and then Titans V Rebels. And if you just want to watch like the last one Titans v. Rebels to see how This production team has been doing things you can do that But just a warning that the first few minutes of Australian Survivors spoils the whole last season So just keep that in mind and maybe skip it. But forget five and a half out of ten They've been on a hot streak. Five and a half out of nine. That's pretty good. Yeah. Are amazing. Fine. That's really good. Fine But but lately yeah, don't go all the way back to the beginning the last couple of years

Have been epic Yes yeah, well Dave Foster took over for Heroes V Villains and Then that was exceptional and then I remember hearing before Titans V Rebels like this is as good as Heroes V Villains and I said that's impossible because that would make this the best back to back seasons in Global Swipe of History. And then that happened. And then we just kept debating what was a better season.

And both valid arguments abounded. And now I hear that this is as good. And I'm not going to doubt it again, because I already did that and I was already wrong. Yeah. What's been the secret to the success of Australian Survivor in terms of being on this hot streak? The last few seasons, I mean, I think the David Foster, the EP, is doing a lot of really good things. I think he knows how to make excellent television.

I think he's cast really good seasons. I mean, if you look at the newbies, like the people we uncovered last year, you know, Ferris, Kirby, Eden, Caroline, Mark, like there's so many. So many. I'm not listening to all like there are so many good characters. I think it's really well cast. And having looked at the bios for this cast in the last couple of hours, this seems like a great group. So I think that's been really good.

And I think that, you know, a lot of the complaints about Australian Survivor are about how much it will like kind of break the game. I don't know who's been complaining about that. Certainly not someone at Shannon Gates on Twitter leading a lot of that. But, you know, that hasn't really been the case in the last few seasons. It's often really hard to extend it to 24 episodes with non-eliminations.

I think the last few seasons, with some notable exceptions, have done it the best. I think that 95 out of 100 for last season's production. One twist I did not enjoy, otherwise I loved it. I think it's been done really, really well with the twist with production. I think it has good game design and great cast. And it's a fun format because it's so long. And when you do it right, these pre-mergers are like two concurrent mergers and then they swap and it's madness. And I know that sometimes in US Survivor, people are kind of missing those like big tribes and those big games and swaps and like all the chaos of that and I think A Strained Survivor has delivered on that in droves. So yeah, worth checking out. Yeah Well said. Okay, Shannon, you mentioned the cast was a big part of why these last couple seasons

Have popped especially even Titans vs. Rebels, which was an all new player cast. Here we go again returning to the Brains versus Brawn format. And this is only the second time they're doing Brains versus Brawn, right? Only the second, they've only had 10 seasons, it's one fifth of the season. I just feel like they're all Brains versus Brawn. That's true. Well, and we did, I do have some stuff on that,

because even the Brains, even our brains are like so brawny. Like our brains tribe would be the brawniest people in New Era survival. Like it just is true. So I mean, yes, Australian survivors are going to be very brawny. Then sometimes they'll put in a couple of brains and they made a couple of brains tribes. Yeah, they love to steal US themes and then make it like two big, you know, tribe on tribe battles, just like the two tribes. We cut out beauty. The joke's always been, because everyone in Australia is so beautiful. Certainly the people they cast,

it actually is fair and true. And we, yeah, we're doing Brains V. Braun again, and the first Brains V. Braun was very fun, very, very fun. So if it can follow in those footsteps, that would be excellent. Okay, and so Shannon, does this cast pop to you the way that some of these other casts have? This cast is so fun.

Like, and I'm gonna be honest with you, like I've been on like in my head, like the year is not really started, you know, and they dropped everything without warning. Like it was like, here's the date and then online was like the whole cast. And I was like, that's the date. And then online was like the whole cast. And I was like, that's a lot. So I kind of, I didn't look at it.

The last couple of hours for this podcast, I was skipping through the bios and I was like, oh, this cast is great. Like almost every bio had something funny or interesting. Like I've got a little game for us, which you'll see. Like there's so much fun stuff here. Like even just from the page, let alone, I know there are videos going around.

I'm really excited for the cast assessments we're gonna to do, but like this seems like a really fun cast. Okay. All right. You want to jump into the game? Yeah, I'm really excited about the game. If anything else, it's in Samoa as usual, be around 47-ish days like usual. General stuff, it seems like a lot of fans for Australian Survivor, which is a very low bar, lot of fans for Australian Survivor, which is a very low bar. But like compared again to New Era US Survivor. Yeah, we struggle, but Titans V Rebels was already making pretty good on that. And I think like this this cast seemed to really have a lot of fans. Yeah, that's mainly what I had.

Do you have anything else? No, I'd love to hear about this cast. OK, I will. I have the cast that I've made into Two Truths and a Lie as a game. I like the gamified things as you know. See if you can beat me, the banker. I'm also watching a lot of Dondi right now. So that's where I'm at.

I bet you this game will make more sense than Dondi makes. Wait, hold on. Can I take the deal? What? Do not do it at all. Maybe, maybe this is what we do. If you can beat my two truths and a lie, how many did I do? Seven. Seven. I did one, two, three.

I did several. So if you get four, we call it We Know Global. And if you get fewer than four, we go with We Know Global Survivor. And that's how production is decided at RHAP in a game. Do you like that? Are you willing to bet it all on this game? Sure. You need to care more about my wages. I care. I care.

You don't. You don't care. This is the issue. This is what I was in the draft. People need to care more about the things that I like, my competitiveness, you know? It needs like pretend you care about who care about this. Okay. I will there are states now I am look I am with bated breath waiting to get into the game. All right, cool. So this is going to decide the entire direction of the podcast, which is my child. So states are high. All right. So okay, the first one and two truths and a lie is actually four truths and a lie, and it's just names. Okay.

I've got four, five names here. You tell me which one is not a name of a person on the cast. Okay. Zen. Ursula. Noonan. Peedy. And Jiminy Joe.

Hmm. Okay. Could I hear those names one more time? and Jiminy Joe. Hmm. OK. Could I hear those names one more time? Yeah. Then. Ursula Noonan, P.D. and Jiminy Joe. Hmm.

Now, I feel like just to talk it through, did Shannon give me the wackiest name and that's the fake name or does she try to throw me off by putting a very basic name into the pile of wacky names? Just real quick, one last time. Zen, Ursula, Nune, Pee Dee and Jiminy Joe. Hmm. I'm tempted to say Pee Dee,

but I feel like that in hearing it back, I feel like that Shannon said Pee Dee. Pee Dee. Pee Dee, and that's very unusual. I'm gonna say that the person that's not in the cast is Ursula. Wrong. I don't have sound effects. Okay, great. One for me. Okay, who is it?

It's Jiminy Joe. There's no Jiminy Joe. I'm really glad this worked because I couldn't say it was a straight face. And then I tested it on Peter before thinking he'd be like, it's clearly Jiminy Joe. And he said Zen. And I was like, okay, good, that works. I'm keeping Jiminy Joe. And I was really happy about that. Jiminy Joe was so out there. Yeah, it made me laugh. I'm so glad that worked. Okay, so even better than it worked.

I'm really glad. Can you tell me anything about Jiminy Joe? There is no Jiminy Joe. Oh, that's right. What would he be like? I imagine like a farmer, maybe. Where'd you come up with Jiminy Joe? I have no idea, Rob. Is it like Jiminy Cricket?

Yeah, I think maybe. And I think part of me was like Joey, Joe, Joe, Junior Shabadoo. And then I don't know. I don't know what Jiminy Joe is. I don't know. I'm really glad it worked because I didn't put that much thought into it. It came out of my brain and it worked on two like both you and Peter. So I'm really happy about that. I don't know how you guessed that. You thought there was something called Jiminy Joe that's insane. It's ridiculous.

Alright, so did your husband. I know and I judge him too. I was just as harsh on him. I feel really bad for him because he was just helping me. Anyway, no, there's a Zen. There's that, that's true. There is Ursula, Núnen, who is Laura, but is going by Núnen, and PD. Yeah. Yeah. Those people exist.

Alright, onto the next one. Yes. Okay, this is jobs. Which two of these jobs are actually jobs in in the show? Olympian or witch or an AFL player? So two of them are real. Yeah, that's the game. I mean, an Olympian and an AFL player are so generic. Did Shannon Jiminy Joe me again?

And is the fake answer the witch? I love that it's a verb now and I feel like there's so many Olympians and there's so many AFL players. I have to say the witch. Yeah, no, that one was that wasn't true. See, I Jiminy Joe'd you twice, one time I making you fall for Jiminy Joe and then eradicating your sense of trust to go back. And then you didn't trust about Jiminy Joe.

So you assume that would just do a witch, which I didn't. That actually is the profession of someone on the season. Laura, the other Laura, that's not Noonan. Yes, Laura is a witch. Yeah, Laura calls herself a witch because she's a woman who knows what she wants and wants to take back the stigma in the title. OK, cool, because that just sounds like that's not a job, though. That's not a job because she has over 250 crystals, uses spells the daily, and knows how to manifest through her spell work and magic.

That sounds like she's working to me, alright? That being said, the last thing I want is to get on the wrong side of a witch! So, sounds like a valid profession to me, Laura. I'm your number one stan. My winner pick, Laura, not Noonin. If yeah, you didn't get smited right now, which is I assume how spells work, which is great. It's been a good time. I think God's smites. I don't think witches smite.

I think they can. I don't think so. Yeah, I think so. I think so. Let us know, weigh in in the comments. Yeah. Can witches smite? I think yes.

And I think it's been a good time for witches in pop culture. Agatha all along. Did you watch that? Did you watch Agatha? It was a great series. Highly recommend that too. But anyway, you know, big time for a witch. We've had an empath in Kara before.

Yeah, it's literally her job title. That's what it has. Everyone else has their job titles. Okay. Yeah. See, fun cast. Okay, that's literally her job title. That's what it has. Yeah. Everyone else has their job titles. Okay. Yeah, see, Funcast. Okay, that's two for me. I'm getting very close to getting what I want on the podcast.

Mm-hmm. Maybe there might be another witch. I don't get it. Maybe it's you. People have said. They're burning all the witches, even if you aren't one. Yeah, look anyway look Wicked that's hot. Yes wicked. I told you about it. I can't even talk about we get it. Thank you so much I literally podcast about wicked. I was about to have my musical stand card revoked wicked. It's a big time for witches exactly

Thank you. Did you see wicked? Yes, did you like it? It was fine. Oh, you're gonna get so smited by so many witches right now It's a little long Like a lot of with the talking animals, but like we really like our Not the world have you seen have you ever seen was it was I did see the was device Yeah, but I feel I don't need that I felt there was a lot of backstory into all the talking animal politics is like That's like the whole the point of the movie. Okay. All right. I don't know. I saw the production like in off-broadway

But wow, look at you. I don't remember and all that I felt a lot of filler in the wicked and I'm not talking about anybody's faces. I Don't think that the talking animals were filler I think that it chewed the scenery too much much like that goat might chew something because he's a goat but I don't think I mean the animal stuff is kind of like the main thing is gonna be very important for the second part That's like the whole thing. You would just like get to define gravity, right? Like that's what. Yeah, that's what I'm in this.

Get to some of the bangers here. Does the cowardly lion talk in Wizard of Oz? Or did I make that up? Yeah, he talks. He talks, he talks, right. Okay, sorry. Put him up, put him up. He sings the whole song. Oh, he sings the whole song?

Wait, have you not seen the Wizard of Oz? No, I've seen it. I've seen it just so long ago. Like I know, like I've seen the Wizard of Oz, but like maybe I should watch it because it's big time for witches. I actually had more on this, by the way. Obviously, there's an Olympian. There's always an Olympian. Morgan, we have so many Olympians. If that's the one thing Australia has, it's Olympians. And then Laura's the witch. And then, okay, there's no AFL player, which is crazy in an Australian survivor season, let alone Brains v. Braun. They might be scared

off by what's been happening to the AFL players in seasons like that, but we have two wags. Oh, okay. Wives and girlfriends of AFL players? Yeah, so one of them is the wag of a current AFL player, Jason Janison, that's Logan. And that's her job title too, Wag. Yeah, okay. And then someone else, Ursula, is an ex-wag, like her partner, not her ex-partner,

but her current partner did play in the NRL. And PD is a soccer coach and ex-player. So like not an AFL player, but like we did get pretty close. You know, like we had to obviously get pretty close. Anyway. Have they taken back, speaking of taking back the term, wag that people are, that they're wearing that proudly? That's a big thing here.

Wag. You got wag, I mean Taylor Swift's a wag now. It's very proud, proud, um, big, big time for wags and for witches. Yeah, I don't think we really talk about, uh, the wives and girlfriends of players as, as wags. Really? In America you don't do, that's huge here.

I tend to see it more because on the very popular podcast News AF, I have to do a lot of searching through all the different news sites, and I to do a lot of searching through all the different news sites and I'm on a lot of like British tabloid websites and I see a lot about WAGs. Right. So that's probably what we got it.

But like it's really big deal. And that's her job literally on the thing Logan AFL WAG. So yeah, interested in how that's going to go. So those are the professions. We've only done two of the several categories that I have. Yes. Two to zero is the score. All right.

And just to count, six to zero points, smited by a witch. That's where you're at right now. It's not going so well. Okay. This is a fashion category. Okay. Two of these three things people are wearing.

Okay. All right. One, Denim and rhinestones. Two, long gloves. Three, a sweater vest. These are things that people are wearing in their picture? In their, like, island... Yeah.

Can you repeat... What do we... Bryce and I do? Their cast parts? Casting. Yes? Can you repeat these one more time? Denim and rhinestones, long gloves and a sweater vest. I'll say the sweater vest is fake. Unfortunately, Rob you are very close to losing this game all up and I hope we still get to do all my categories. But yeah, Noonan is wearing a sweater vest. Okay. My least favorite Laura. She's not a witch, but she is wearing a sweater vest. Over a t-shirt, which is an interesting

kind of look. I mean, she's a brain. So I guess. Was it denim and rhinestones? No. Also, there is a woman, Kate, I think, who is in full, just all denim and rhinestones. Yeah, which is because denim is like, not good for Survivor, I feel. This is all denim and like not in shapes that I feel like will be good for the challenges. And then rhinestones, so yeah.

So long gloves was the lie. Well, yeah, I made that one up. Okay. Yeah. I've really got you. I think she talked about it. Kate talked about it. No, this isn't good. Yeah. I guess I've never seen anybody wear gloves in their survivor cast photo.

I would be crazy. Okay. Here we go. Look at what I'm wearing on the first day. It's rhinestone and denim and denim. My whole outfit is just to look like a girly girl. I think they're going to get the wrong perception. Yeah. And it's got like a buckle, but it's like completely bare. Is she brain or brawn? She's brawn. Yeah. And it's got like a buckle, but it's like completely bare. Is she brainy or brawn? She's brawn. Yeah. Yeah. So again, interesting. I remember last season, the big one was Valeria had like that really big fluffy coat. Yes. So anyway, carrying on the tradition of strange fashion choices, but yeah, no long gloves. I think if

someone came in gloves, that would be weird because Cause that's not a helpful accessory in survival. That's not going to help with anything. I don't think. Can you think of anything you would help with? Maybe you could take the pot off of the fire. Easy. Okay. There you go. See? That's innovating. All right. Next category for idols without like ripping your hands up. And like, if like a bug camp, a spider can't bite you through the gloves

Yeah, and also probably at night your hands might get cold. Yeah, like I feel like that when you go look for I wouldn't know I've never looked for an idol before but I think that like I feel you guys like stick your hands in a lot of holes Maybe like those gloves might be useful. Well, you think you like the wind Jim like re-hit the idol. Mm-hmm Yeah, there was like fire ants and stuff. Yeah, okay. Well, that would be really playing the long game, I think. But like more power to you. Yeah. Okay, AI category because it's 2025. Okay, doesn't bother me, but some may be upset.

Well, there's two AI specific jobs. Which of these three? Which two of these three? An AI trainer, an AI expert, and an AI PhD student. AI trainer. I guess the AI trainer is fake. That is correct. You have a point. AI is pretty easy to fake. That is correct. You have a point.

AI is pretty easy to train. It trains itself. It's really, you don't need to train it. That one was really hard because I don't know AI jobs and I had to look them up and I didn't know what, I don't know. I was just making things up. But yeah, we have an AI expert, which is Ali, and a PhD student who's studying AI. Can't spell AI without, or Ali without AI.

No, actually it's with a Y. Ah, it's right there, Ali. Yeah, no, unfortunately. Yeah, and even Kailin, there's no I there. It's K-A-E-L-A-N. So actually, I feel like both of them went out of their way to leave that I out. I'm taking their brains.

The what? I'm taking their brains. Yeah, and there's no, and you can't spell brains without AI. You beat me to it. But you can spell both of their names. No I. No I in those names. Or team.

Okay. Or yeah, I got no more. I've got no more on this. We've exhausted it. All right. But I'm still alive, baby. Still alive. You need to get the net three out of three.

It's very exciting. Okay. I've now. What if I could come back? That would be amazing. Like a Boston Red Sox. Come back from down three zero. out of three. It's very exciting. Okay. I've now, what if I could come back? That would be amazing. Like a Boston Red Sox come back three from down three zero. Shannon would

be so despondent. I would, I feel like that would be a crazy way for me to decide the whole future of the collapse. Yeah. That would be crazy. It would be well, it would be well earned. Yeah. I mean, after the whole Jiminy Joe. We know Jiminy Joe could be the URL. That'd be a great prank for me. Like you should make it that. Not good for you either, probably. Right? Like we're in this together. We're a team. I mean, we could probably give you robinswebsite.com slash Jiminy Joe. That'd be pretty funny for the, for the day one is of this season for the people who really

listened to this one podcast and you'd get, and then there's a kind of thing where like years from now people will be like, what is with Jiminy Joe? Like what I would like, and Shannon, tell me if this is maybe you don't want this. If there was a Twitter account, Jiminy Joe, I, I, that was talking about Australian survivor. I think I would like that. Yeah, no, of course I want that. What's wrong with that? I mean, don't troll people from the Jiminy Joe account. But like, yeah.

Anyway, I also don't know- That's gonna be my burner. Please don't troll people from the Jiminy Joe account, okay? That's all I ask. I'm looking now at Kaylin and it says, he's an ex-engineer and now a PhD student using AI to scout and map vegetation by drone around Antarctica. Like these people are interesting.

And also, is he an AI PhD student? Probably not. I think I took some liberties, but I wanted to make an AI category. Okay. Okay. I've got a whole category on Kalin. Okay. Why?

Because he is a PhD student on the Brains tribe. Right. And I want you to picture what you think that looks like, right? On Australian survival. Okay, I've got four things here, three truths and a lie. What does Kaylin also do? Three of these four things, play rugby, professional paddle boarder, champion swimmer, and a surfer.

This is the PhD student. This is what I'm trying to, like look how brawny even our brainiest, are down, not me, but down under usually. That's my point. Yes, Shannon, can you say that list one more time? Rugby, professional paddleboarder, champion swimmer, and surfer.

I think that the fake answer is surfer. Unfortunately, it's professional swimmer. So I have actually won now. And I'm not going to name my podcast Jiminy Joe. Okay, but I might change my name. To Shannon Jiminy Joe. Well, I have to change my last name. I've never legally done that. Do you think I should make it my middle name? I don't have a middle name. Why not be a long

way for a bet. Anyway, Rob, I'm really sorry that you lost the game. Have you enjoyed it? Cause I have two more categories. All right. Give me the other two real quick. All right. All right. Okay. Last year, Kent, who was on the cast met two of these three people. Okay. John Keirhoffer, Jeff Probst, and Mark Burnett. Who's the person he didn't meet? Yeah. He didn't meet Mark Burnett? He did! Wow.

I know! He said he met Jeff and Mark Burnett. I didn't even know that they hung out with each other. At the same time he met them? That's how it's coming across. Do you want me to read what he said? Sure. I'm really excited for the cast assessment because again, every bio was blowing my mind. I've been in love with the show for 25 years, he says.

I even met Mark Burnett and Jeff Probst last year. I kind of felt like it was together. I thank Mark for the show and how much it meant to me and my eyes welled up. Maybe it wasn't together? Did Jeff and Mark Burnett hang out? I mean, that's my knowledge, but it's possible they could have been both at like, did he go to like the Emmys or something? Like, why did he go there? I don't know. He's a business mogul. Maybe he had meetings with- He gets up at 4.40 every morning? Yeah. Meetings with them? For what? I bet they take a lot of meetings, those guys. Not with me.

That's crazy. Do you think that's how he got on the show? I don't know. Probably not. I don't feel like Jeff's loving Australian survival. Yeah, I don't think that he leveraged his connections with Jeff Probst and Mark Burnett to get on Australian Survivor. Why not?

You're saying that disparagingly. I just don't think that they have any pull. Yeah, I mean, they would, but they wouldn't use it. Do you think Mark Burnett knows there's Australian Survivor? I think so. I think not that too. But Charlie Parsons knows. Why?

Because he's making bank. Right. I don't know how that all works. Fair enough. Okay, last category. Does Mark Burnett's name appear in the credits of Australian Survivor? I'd have to check. Just Charlie Parsons, right? Fair enough. Okay. Last category. Does Mark Burnett's name appear in the credits of Australian survivor? I'd have to check. Just Charlie Parsons, right?

I don't think so. It probably, probably. I don't know. Okay. Well that's something to look out for next time. Or maybe someone just go back to an old episode. Let me know. Yeah. From the Jiminy Joe account. Yeah. I had listened to the audio book, the Emily Nussbaum book, cue the song. And she talked a lot about how the development of Survivor and the work that Charlie Parsons did to create the format, which then he could not sell for anything. And Mark Burnett was able to, like the ultimate salesman, was able to sell to CBS.

Right. Interesting. I didn't know if he met Charlie Parsons. It's not in his bio, if so. Probably not. Probably he did. if he met Charlie Parsons. It's not in his bio, if so. Probably not. Probably he did, because what the hell? Crazy. I mean, the bio is really, I think, I'm excited about this guy. Okay. Miscellaneous. Okay. So is someone vice president of the PTA? Do they have a pet koala? Or is the financial analyst also a poll dancer?

I didn't have categories for these ones. I think this is the same. One person has two of these three things. These are three different people. Three different things. Do they not do miscellaneous categories? It's miscellaneous category. And you're just telling me that two things that people actually do.

Okay. Yeah. And they are once again. That someone's vice president of the PTA, someone has a pet koala, and someone is a financial analyst who also pole dances. Okay. I don't think somebody has a pet koala. Yeah, you are right.

They have a pet kangaroo. Isn't that crazy? Can we talk about, your beloved husband does not love kangaroos. Why? He does love them. Does he? Because of the time that they will eat kangaroo? No, no. I feel like at Marianne's wedding, he was, he was, uh, he was, he was talking about that. They, they drowned dogs. Speaker 4. Peter, were you talking about kangaroos drowned dogs at Marianne's wedding? Never mind. What? Well, no bad take. I mean, I don't want them to drown dogs.

They like hiding the water and pretend. And then, and then the dogs come out and then they drown dogs for sport. What? I think he's probably kept that for me. Cause it's like, it's too much for me. They're like, they're like serial killer kangaroos. What? Why was he talking about that? Mary Ann's wedding? What, and that stuck with you so much that you remembered it from last day. How do you forget that? Do you remember anything else about Mary Ann's wedding? Oh, that was like the one.

I remember many things. Yeah. OK. All right. Well, I don't know what he's talking. I genuinely don't know what he's. I mean, all the kangaroos I know are lovely. Are lovely. Yeah. The reason this is annoying is because like that's the thing that the Australians like to do. Like there are kangaroos everywhere. We all have pet kangaroos, but this woman actually does.

Ali. She's the one who has a pet kangaroo. That's why I put it in there. And then Zara is vice president of the PTA. And the reason I love that is I felt like president of the PTA is like a perfect profession trope, but vice president is like even better. Like that's great. Like that sounds like a sitcom character. Yeah. Love that. She actually sounds really impressive, but very funny. Okay. And then Zara.

Yeah. And then Miles, who's a big fan is a financial analyst here who also pulled answers. So I just thought that was interesting and unexpected. Oh, Miles is a pulled answer? Yeah. Wow. I'm not expecting that. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. Wow. Do you know Miles? I don't. Okay. Well, he says, but something you wouldn't know about me is I'm a pole dancer. It's one of my hobbies that I like to do. This is something totally out of that field that people don't think of. That's right. That's how I want me to. Thunder from down under. Um, I don't think so. I don't want to have to look because then I feel like it'll mess up my algorithm

Yeah, then I'm never getting away from that, but now it would probably already has but Yeah, that's that was do you have fun in that at five to two was that final score? But you did well as well as could be you felt Not an easy game of lies about random things. Yeah, that is true. That's quite high. I think a well constructed game and Jimmy Joe Doe. Yes. And that's good. It's good when you can create like a whole new concept.

You definitely did. OK. Shannon has a bunch of preseason coverage that's going to be coming your way. Can you tease us with any preseason coverage? Yes. So the cast assessment. So Mike and I are going to do our regular cast assessments in each tribe. I guess that was brains, right? Because brain febron.

I'm really excited about talking about this cast because as you can tell, like that was just, that was just some of the fun facts, really fun stuff from the buyers and there's still videos coming out on social media. And apparently in the ads, Vimeo Celebrity get me out of here, but I don't want to have to watch it. So I don't know. Okay.

But yeah. And so we're going to do that. We're going to do a draft, an Australian draft of Aussie drafters. Looking into that. It's a look. Yeah. Definitely those things. Okay.

And then all the coverage we spoke about a while ago. Yeah. All right. Well, Shannon, we know global survivor.com is where people can find all of your coverage. We have kicked off the preseason officially and so can't wait to see what comes up the rest of the way and then an incredible amount of coverage, a real marathon of 20, what, 24 recaps? When you put it like that.

Weekly feedback shows, exit interviews, the most encompassing Australian survivor coverage that you could ever find. Yeah. And then Survivor 48 will start. Australian survivor coverage that you could ever find. Yeah, and then Survivor 48 will start. You're in the right place. You found your people. We are going to make it so easy for the patrons to get to watch all of the stuff, even if they're not in Australia. Shanna, what else is coming up for you? Mostly that, honestly. A lot of that. I'm kind of just like getting ready for that. But yeah, the cast assessment, that's going to happen.

You're resting up. Yeah, I really am. I'm in hibernation. I don't really have more than... I feel like that ready for that. But yeah, the cast assessment, that's gonna happen. You're resting up. Yeah, I really am. I'm in hibernation. I don't really have more, I feel like that's a lot. Like I feel like I don't have to feel bad that I don't have much more than that. Ask Channing Gates, that's what I wanna say. Ask Channing Gates, Instagram, Blue Sky, Twitter, I'll post all that content so then you won't miss it.

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