RHAP: We Know Survivor - Survivor B&B: Survivor 49 Episode 5 w/ Chantele Francis

Episode Date: October 26, 2025

Survivor B&B: Survivor 49 Episode 5 With a new Survivor season upon us, it’s time for Mike Bloom and Liana Boraas to re-open the RHAP B&B! On the B&B, Mike and Liana are inspired by the lighter side of Survivor, featuring a series of segments and games based on what’s happening on Survivor that week. […]

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Hi, everybody, and welcome to the R-H-A-B-B-N-B for week five of Survivor 49. My name is Mike Bloom back to talk about another episode of Survivor 40-I. We're reaching the halfway point of this season. And spoiler alert for the next time, we're already bidding a due to the Two-Tribre format. You really don't know what you've got to look. gone, but we are going for the time being as we are here to talk about get another Tina member going out chanting. Let me welcome in, of course, our panel for this week's podcast.

Leon of Boris, who would have thought that what we needed to do to get to know one another is not podcast about Survivor for 15 seasons, but just carry heavy sandbags and walk back and forth and ask each other breakers that you might be able to pause during a corporate retreat. Exactly. It's the fun fact of it all. Share one fact about yourself that everybody loves to answer those questions. But yeah, I mean, clearly that's what we should have done for our sort of team building retreat before beginning the B&B. The good news about this type of stuff is that when you craft these bios or fill out these applications for these types of reality shows, you kind of already have the fun facts locked and loaded as opposed to us plebs, right? They're like, you can't think of like one interesting thing about me. I'm like three. Yeah, exactly. Like, I'm sorry. You're making me share something about myself. Well, we are so happy to share the screen with this person this week.

Of course, they say goats get high off, hey. Jesus got high off God. This person knows how to get high because she spends lots of time on a plane. It is Chantelle Francis. Hello, hello. I'm so happy to be here. I love doing the B&B because it's just a fun, fun, good time. And so I can't wait to see what's in the story.

for today. Well, let's ask Chantel about are you feeling that fun and good about Survivor 49 so far? Again, we blink and before we know it. We're almost at, you know, a month and a half into the season. We're approaching upon the halfway point. And we are surprisingly not merging next week. So we're spending a little bit more time in the pre-merge, which I think for better or for worse. Some would say from a strategic perspective is not necessarily the most next level stuff going on.

But what's the level you're feeling right now about Survivor 4? in general. Well, I'm enjoying it. Like, I'm always going to like Survivor. I find Survivor fun. Like, I've been watching it since the very beginning. So I always love Survivor. I do think that, I mean, and we're saying it all the time, that the

three tribe formats really kind of boring. I don't find it interesting to see one tribe get decimated and going back and not getting Flint and not be able to eat. Like, I just have seen this before. So it's not really that exciting for me that these new people have like it really tough at camp.

And so, like, I wish that I could see some of these players actually play Survivor. And I do find that, like, the two tribe format, it allows people to strategize. They talk to people, not a tribe swap where, like, they're not in, like, I don't have a numbers advantage. But, like, I would like to see that again where two tribes will give opportunity for people that are on the bottom to make connections and be able to do the strategic side of Survivor, which is what I like. So I just would like to see more strategy than it just be a numbers game with starving people. But I like some of these characters. I'm curious when we get to the merge, when we can start seeing them play Survivor, how things will go. But up until now, I'm just kind of like waiting to get to Birch.

Yeah. And I think it's interesting also when you think about this episode specifically because like even though yes, okay, so we're in attitude tribe format. It's an opportunity for people to flip, but we still don't even see that. of what occurred before, right? Like the initial conditions were set up so that this would continue to exist. And I know that the editors, and I mean, I think genuinely like Nate and Savannah

were considering voting out Joanne in this episode. So I do think that there's some legitimacy to, oh, okay, maybe we don't just make it such a straight, like straight down the line between Heena and Uli. But unfortunately, that was the ultimate outcome of this. And I will say we can talk maybe a little bit about Jason. I don't think he was doing himself any favors in terms of like advocating for himself,

which maybe could have, I think legitimately moved the needle a little bit given the fact that they were so interested in Jawan. So I agree with you that, you know, we've seen that throughout this season and then unfortunately it's continued into the two tribe swap as well as a consequence of what preexisted it. I think something that is working in the favor of these past couple of episodes

is that I do feel like, like the Uli volcano appropriate to the red color of the tribe is going to erupt. You know, we have this. I wouldn't even say simmering at this point. It went to a straight up full boil this week, resentment between Sage and Shannon. And then again, as you mentioned over on the other tribe, you have strike two. I mean, I would say Joanne nearly struck out just in one swing. But, you know, him for some reason, unintentionally targeting Savannah's possessions with the stuff that he

was taken. But it seems like the Uli tribe while, again, Savannah touted this from the very beginning, is like, well, this is the vibes tribe. Arguably, this is maybe one of the most combustible of the original tribes. It's just that due to the way the numbers worked

out and the immunity challenges worked out, they've never had the opportunity to really eat at one another. And we'll go back to three tribes next week. On the one hand, I was like, oh man, I would want to see if this group gone back again. out the Tohina people will take out what would happen.

On the other hand, I'm like, it's just probably going to be Joanne. It seems like they really like Sophie at this point. And so it's what have you done for me lately? And what you have done for me lately is, you know, slobber all over my water bottles. So, DTFO. But I do think that to your point, Chantel, and I mean, we talked about this as well with Sam last week too, right?

That I think some of the expense of kind of cutting loose some of these players who may have been a little bit more destined for the pre-merge, either by the tribe layout or, you know, the unfortunate circumstances of this swap, it does expend that in lieu of setting up what could be a really exciting second half of the season. Now, does it make this half of the season that more appealing? Maybe not, but even just watching some of the interpersonal drama happen over the course of this episode, we're starting to get into the petty streak of this season.

And your boy loves pettiness. before you start talking about so I did want to say something about Jason I do feel a little bit bad for the position that he was in because you know he hadn't gone to tribal so he hasn't actually started playing Survivor yet he hasn't been strategizing

he hasn't realized what it maybe could feel like to be on the bottom or like to know who's going to be voted out and so he gets thrown into this new tribe where he doesn't really have any numbers here doesn't really know how to strategize with these new people and so I definitely think he dropped the ball but like I

I think he just didn't, like, I don't know how to strategize with these people that I've never, you know, met before. And, like, they're not my crew. And so I had to give him a little bit of grace for the fact that he couldn't get himself out of this position because it's this first time playing the game and it's with people that he's never even really talked to before. That's the thing. I do think you makes you a good point. I do agree with it may be on the surface, the idea of like, hey, keep me because I can make my entire tribe stop targeting you. is like, you know, I've got a bridge to sell you if you really believe that. On the other hand, yeah, if you don't know how to strategize

these people, how to pitch to them, if Savannah approaches you and says, make this very specific argument, you'd be hard pressed to not at least try it. You know, to be like, listen, I don't know any better option I could use to try to pitch to these people, considering I met them two days ago. Yeah, I guess

he could have definitely worked with her because she was giving him something. But I think that he just was kind of basically fish out of water here inside a new tribe and he's like, is she lying to me? Is she trying to entrap me? Like, she doesn't really know necessarily how to play it. But you could have done better. Absolutely. But I think that he, he was kind of in a losing situation.

Yeah, I don't know. I just like I get that. Like I hear that. But also his situation was incredibly simple if you really break it down, right? You have two majorities to like let's say, and let's go back to last week's episode as well, right? We've got two groups of equal strength, right? why would group A keep anyone from group B, right? Well, the only reason why that would happen is if you defect to group B. So instead of Jason from the very first episode being like, I'm really tight with the heans.

What are you? Who cares how tight you are with the heinas? Throw them under the bus. And then when you get back to the he is, you be like, oh my God. I think, God, guys, I'm back. Like, I'm so down with you guys. Right?

Like, it's just immediately throw your other tribe under the bus, say, I'm so down. I am so ready to work with you. Like I was on the outs on the tribe, whether or not it's true or not. Who cares? Self-preservationist mode should kick in. And you should try to save yourself to exist one more day. So like, we just never saw that from Jason.

And I'm just like, why? Just lie, bro. Like, you can do this. I believe in you. Yeah. It's just a lawyer in him. I don't know. Well, what's, yeah, exactly.

He had his hand on the Bible the entire time. So what's interesting is I got the chance to talk with Jason. And it turns out that Jason, despite, you know, the very little strategic content we got pre-swap did have a number one ally and it was MC to the point where MC actually showed him the beware advantage that she had. And so

to your point, there was a lot of discussion, including from Jason himself, maybe doing the lawyer thing, playing a bit of the straw man of being like, no, I understand why people might not, you know, might think, why did you not do to MC what Sage did to Rizzo of like, hey, I want to work with you,

here's this information. He didn't want to throw MC under the bus specifically he said if anyone else found that advantage he would do it but but but that doesn't stop him from doing that and just lying about who has the advantage yeah or don't even say the thing about the advantage just say i want to you like you don't know who found the advantage but just throw him under the bus to be like i don't know steven's controlling and and and christina loves god too much i don't know you do whatever you want to say like but just you have to come across it's like imagine i don't care about these people listen uh i'm going to tell you a bit of a secret this person

loves the big man upstairs a little too much. Can you keep me? Once a floor away with the Valle and the Sun and the Holy Spirit. Am I right? Yeah. She's got her own final three. I'm not talking about anyone on this beach. No, but like, and that's the thing.

Like I don't care. You don't actually have to tell the truth, right? Like what you said, Mike. You don't have to do that. Yeah. Okay. Wait, what else did Jason say? So Jason said that, so this is another interesting thing as well.

And it kind of makes me. wonder how it would have how the episode would have looked if we deviated a little bit from the typical structure we get from a pre-tribal perspective right which is like it's option A but is it option B? Could be option B

you know the real vacillating between two people mindset. Jason fully admitted to the fact that the Oolies had him spun around 100%. Like he never thought about playing his shot in the dark because he was

approached about this plan to take out, like, and he, the reason why he wanted to vote out Rizzo is because, like, apparently people had approached him being like, would you vote out Rizzo? He's like, yeah, sure, I'll vote for anybody. And so, like, he wasn't the one leading to charge on the Rizzo thing, but they made him believe specifically, if you play your shot in the dark, we can't trust you at that point. We're not going to want to work with you if you're throwing your trust away by putting your hand in that bag. And part of me kind of wonder, Chantel, if that would have been a more interesting way of looking

at things that, yeah, maybe there was some teasing of like, to your point, Nate and Savannah probably did feel some resentment towards Jawan, but if we went for a bit more of an unconventional edit of just, we know Jason's going, here's the way they're going to snow him over the course of the afternoon. That

could have been a really interesting perspective, especially from some of these Uli members, that we are probably going to peg as at least making a pretty deep run, considering how much we see of them. Yeah, why aren't we seeing that? If that's what, like, kind of happened, there had to be in a couple of conversations with other people being like,

hey, you know, Arizona's going to be the decoy vote. We're going to tell him this so that he doesn't play a shot in the dark. Like, I would love to see that. It would just at least show people playing the game instead of just seeing the results in the end. And, you know, with our frustration with Jason here, I really, like, who cares if they're saying this?

Like, it's like your one shot to be maybe safe in a scenario where it looks bad. And they could very easily be lying to you. Like I would just be like, you know what, I'm going to take the risk and play my shot in the dark and ask for forgiveness later. So I'm surprised that he allowed himself to get snow when he's in such a bad situation with these new people. He's the only one from his drive left. And then he still believes that they're going to take, you know, their person out for him. So yeah, it was a little bit of a miscalculation on his part.

Yeah, I mean, I can see why he wouldn't play the shot in the dark. That is like a little bit of trying to play past tomorrow. I can understand that. I do wish, Mike, that we had seen some of that. And then maybe the intrigue is like, does he play a shot in the dark? Yes or no, right? Instead of like the Jawan vote so that I get. But the other thing, like, I have to keep reminding myself as the Monday morning or I guess

the Thursday morning quarterback is it's really freaking hot. They're not eating. They have no fire. Their brains are mush. I think as Savannah said in tribal council. So like, I'm going to give everybody the benefit of the doubt and be like, if I was, like, if I don't eat after six hours, I'm like, frankly hot mess. So I can't imagine

after multiple days. So I get it. Like I get it and I get that you have to kind of stick with you just like your brain just doesn't like work. You just can't think. I mean on that note, I have seen some pushback from some fans about Savannah, particularly

this past week about like she's going in way too hard against Joanne. Why is she talking about him this way behind her back? His back is opposed to like not talking about it with him directly. I don't know. How do you feel about it? Don't tell. I know on the one hand, we find this type of stuff entertaining, but do you feel like she is saying too much about him without his presence? Not really. I mean, it's clear that he annoys her to a certain degree. So everything that he's doing on top of that is just feeding that irritation that she has with him already.

But, you know, I would hope that Juana would understand, like, feel those vibes that don't touch this girl's stuff. Like, you know, like, if there's somebody. that you know it's very particular about their things they keep it neat like make sure it's not theirs when you're going to go up and collect firewood make sure that you have your own water bottle because nobody

in that little environment your stuff is kind of like your lifeline to like feeling like a person and like you're just like could have no respect for other people's things so I think she's valid and being kind of annoyed with him and I don't I don't actually mind him talking about

Like, what else you have to do on the island other than talk about people, right? Like, yeah, you're in a shitty situation. You're on this beach. This person's annoying you. Like, yeah, I'm probably going to be negatively gossiping about somebody. So I'm okay with it, but I'm a bit of a gossip. No, that's a great point. I mean, listen, we watch Big Brother, right?

We're like, inevitably things turn to a point where there's just nothing to do in that house for people to just shit talk everybody, much to, you know, our chagrid. And as you mentioned, Leanna, add on to that the fact that, like, that was, that's, That's in an air-conditioned house where they can eat all they want every day. Add hangary onto it in all manner of the word. And yeah, this could be a real bitch sesh if you want it to be. Well, and I think that's the way that I like to use a just a fake example. Obviously, this would never happen in real life.

But like let's say Puyah did something that annoyed me. Again, never would happen. But like just like that hypothetical, you know, look, yeah, I would talk to him about it. Right. I'd be like, hey, this bothered me. But you know what I'm going to do first? Yeah, I'm going to. a bitch about it to somebody okay and be like you're not going to believe in blah blah blah it like

allows you to get that a process the emotion out before you can actually be like okay now let's like actually talk about it i don't know if that's what savannah's doing that she's using the confessionals is that like let me complain about it before i like talk to him so that i'm a little bit more calm when i do talk to him but uh but yeah i get it it's just it's just how we process and like process our feelings it's normal gossiping normal What? You're a muffler. You don't hear it?

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completely accidentally i agree but what if savannah had made more of a stink about it the first time. I know that we talk about the faux pos that exist if you are trying to make too much of a big deal, a mountain out of a molehill. But could this be a bit of a a you, me, and depree situation where, you know, you gave Joanne

an inch and he's going to take a mile and your stuff. You know, if she threw a bigger shit fit about the bag thing back on Uli, maybe he'd pay a lot of mind to be like, let me make sure this doesn't say SL anywhere before I engage with any piece of

property. I don't know. Like, would you pick up on her vibe? Her vibe says, I'm annoyed, I'm irritated,

like don't touch my stuff. He knows that she is particular about her stuff. And so the fact that she's not saying something, like, okay, if she took a made a big stink,

I think that would have been worse. Um, just for her position in the game. Like people, it just might have made her look a little bit more unreasonable. And so she's trying to be like,

hey, don't do that. I hate it. And he's not really picking up on it. So I don't think she should have made a big stink. I think that he should have picked up on the clues that is not the person to mess around with because she will get you voted off the island if she can because you touch your stuff.

She said don't touch my stuff. Like if she clearly communicated what she needed. If she needed to be like yelling behind that, then yes, I agree. That's like a listening issue, not a communication issue. Oh, exactly. Yeah, you have to meet him sort of at his level. And I'm not sure unless maybe what if you started using his stuff. what if you try to do a little bit of like

see how it feels for you I'm wearing your clothes like when Joey wore Chandler's clothes without any underwear on friends okay I think I do think though maybe it's like putting it in terms that he can understand right what did we learn in this episode

we learned that they like to talk about Pokemon Joanne loves Pokemon he loves some specific Pokemon so it would like yeah how would you feel if I walked up and I stole your Bulbosaur, like, how are you going to feel about that? Right? You wouldn't like

that. I don't know how he feels about Bulbosaur. He'd be like, yeah, man, that's fire. Take that. I mean, that's literally grass. Take it away. Take that grass away. All we want fire. Well, we got to go to the other side of the pettiness point here. We got to talk about maybe one of the most fun things of this episode of not the first five episodes, which is Sage versus Shannon. I mean, I got to start actually with, and I know Rob did this

before when he was talking with The Incredible Star to me, but like, I'm sorry, one of the things that Shannon says requires a bit of sentence diagraming here. Can we go back to the Goats get high on hay, Jesus got high on God for a second? Goats get high on AstroTurf.

Exactly, because I mean, I don't want to pick it apart B for B because like you said, Leanna's starvation, he, etc. However, it is such a unique phrase that assumes so many things that I do not think are real. Okay, okay, let's do it.

Let's break it down. Okay, so let's start with the first half of the sentence here because I'm no biologist. I'm no zoologist. I'm barely an ologist of anything. However, goats getting high off hay I think is already a bit of a big leap you're making. Now, maybe we're not taking from the literal variety,

here, the hallucinogenic variety. I think we're talking more so of like, ooh, we're having a hay party. But I don't know if there's been any sort of scientific evidence to merit the fact that like goats are really jones in for some hay. You know, I don't think I've ever heard

of goats eating hay in my life. I mean, goats will eat pretty much anything. Like, I get those videos on my social media accounts where the goats, they just bring in goats to like clean up vegetation and areas. They don't seem to be like particularly picky when it comes to their food preferences. Huh.

Well, I'm wondering if, though, if hay in general has some sort of chemical in it that like, you know, like, was it triptophan that's in Turkey or, you know what I mean? Like maybe there's something in the hay that allows a goat to, to get a little buzz. Yeah, I did Google it and it does say goats need and love hay. Oh, okay. the primary source of nutrition and is essential for the digestive health. Oh. Well, now my second

now my core area is, how the hell does Shannon know that? Because she probably does like goat yoga. That could be the case. And when she's just like in a hay barn, they like go dives into a hay bale and that's where the goats just come to naturally jump on her because she grew up famously, right? In the

inner city of Boston, parents own a sports bar. Like, not entirely sure how many goats she's interacted with with it. Okay. So that lets, I guess there's a scientific I will take the L. Okay. She should have used alfalfa. Apparently goats love alfalfa the most. I'm more

of a spanky guy myself, but I'll take alfalfa. I love alfalfa. Let's talk about the other little rascal in this sentence, which is Jesus got high off God. Now look, I am not one to disparage any particular set of beliefs. I'm not questioning the

veracity of the statement. It's more so the choice of words. Because again, there's two different ways we can look at this. There is the more metaphysical variety to Chantel's point. Or is the more like, hey, they're just having a great time. Getting

high off a god, high on life. That guy is that man's dad. Would you feel weird if you said, I'm getting high off my dad? Unless there's some sort of stipulation in

a cremation, you know, order. I don't think that's actually a it's just a weird phrase to say you know jesus got high off his dad i feel like i'm taking the sate's or like the lsats or something where i'm like trying to work through these logical phrases so i think it really okay i think to answer the god part i think you do have to go back to the goat part right because i think we need to define what we mean by goats getting high off hey because i think that will inform what she means with the the second part of this statement because if we're talking about high so i think and if it's

let's just assume it's high is like they're excited about it. Yeah. Right? I'm high on that. Yeah. Yes. I'm so high on that. I love that.

That's good. That's fire as as they would say. Do Genesee people say I'm getting high on that? No, she said fire. I'm high on that. Wait, wait, well,

it's not I'm getting high on hay. It's their high on hay. No, it's, yeah. No, it's, no, it's, goats get high on hay.

Jesus got high on hay. Jesus got high on God is the phrase. Okay. What if it's get high as in an, elevation, like to they climb on top of the hay. They climb on the hay bales.

So then in terms of the second statement, it's like you're standing on the shoulders of your father. And then getting high on God. Okay. I could see that. I could see that. I mean, it's enough of it a weird oddball statement to be like,

yes, son, piggyback. Get high on me. Like, it's just if you heard someone say that on the street, you turn the other way. I'm just like, I'm trying ready to you to turn around and go to Asher and be like, time to get high on that. Like, maybe I'll try that. I don't know.

That's the thing is that it's just a weird turn of phraseology, but it was rattled off. It's such a, such a casual way, both in the edit and buy shaded herself that you, at least I, if I were on the island, would take a pause and be like, my brain really addled on feet or did she say that Jesus got high on God? It's high on God.

I don't think it's God as a concept as opposed to as a father figure but like it's kind of like God is like a spiritual feeling of being lifted, being enlightened and so I think the high on God is like

potentially could be the elevation of spirit and how you feel about your Oh, I like that. I like that. See, I like that interpretation, too. But then let's go back to the goats. So then our goats are light in by... This is really what it all falls apart is. Why do you say both in the same sentence? Exactly. The logic must apply to both. I must base on the way the sentence is structured. That's exactly. And really, she fell into the trap the minute she... But let's talk about perhaps the trap Shannon might find herself in here because she's...

She's high, I suppose, I'm strategizing. She says that that is the love language of Survivor players, but it certainly is not the love language of the person that she was closest to going into this swap. But this does serve, you know, one person's folly is another person's frustration. And we got some very fun frustration from Sage, who, yeah, really is sort of like the, if Carolyn couldn't, if they were doing a reboot of Survivor 40, and they couldn't pay enough money to bring on Carolyn. They're like, all right, this one looks kind.

It's the Liam Hemsworth and the Witcher of Survivor 44. I'm like, I can break her on. I think people would understand she's the essence of Carolyn, even if she's not the real McCoy. Mm-hmm. I feel like we were promised more from this duo this episode. And then to know that like we're going to, I don't think that they're together on there,

if it's a new three tribe thing that, you know, might be happening next. But, like, I wanted to see this kind of blow up a little bit more. I wanted to see the battle, you know, be happening because Shannon has no idea that Sage is like, yeah, coming for her. And so I would have liked to see that play out a little bit more because it's definitely very fun seeing Sage talk about Shannon behind her back. Yeah, it's pretty fun. Yeah, I, I have two thoughts about this.

So the first is that it was just funny to see like Jason not play lack of survival skills to Shannon's over intense survival skills. It just demonstrates you how hard the game of Survivor is that you can't just take one rule and play with it, right? Because Shannon was playing too hard, which is

what turned people off of her, which then allows Sage the moment when I think, was it Jason or was it Stephen and MC that are coming around? Even Alex. Yes, that are coming back to camp and Sage is like, well, you guys are leaving me out. And then they have to talk about like Shannon right

and she's like oh my god do you see it too thank God it was just it's the same thing with Savannah gossiping and like complaining about Joanne it's like that moment you you finally realize that like everybody else hates the same person you do and it's such a good feeling and you get to gossip

about it and it's so like it's such a wonderful relief like the joy I felt for her in that moment of finally getting to talk about this talk about like her feelings towards Shannon beautiful I love it Look is also, right, the narrative that she had built up in her head was that she's essentially, you know, the main character in They Live, where like she's wearing the glasses, right, and she's the only one that sees, right? It's the, was it, the shark with the seal mask? I think it's the analogy that she used, which like, yeah, it's sort of only slightly adjacent to goats get high off ages, gets high up on, and like, what aquarium have you been to, ma'am?

Maybe you need to visit more of them. But yeah, she's like, I don't understand. Nobody is everyone's falling for. I'm the only one that sees and have to be like, yeah, she's doing too much, so she's like, no. So, like, again, she wears her emotions on her face. That is the makings of an incredible reality TV character, an incredibly gippable reality TV character, especially when it is done from my perspective,

authentically, look at you, Ava Pearl. I do not think Sage is necessarily the one to be aura farming, but she has a very fun aura, especially when, I mean, we love this all the time, right, in these types of shows. where oh my god yes I'm having so much fun together Shannon oh poop pee poop poop poop poop

bar pimples in a jar and then it's such you like I'm gonna fucking slit your throat we'll kill her I need more I hope that one of them doesn't get voted out so at least we get more of them on at the merge see that's the thing is that on the one hand right you'd be like okay this has to be building up to something

and like I did a little bit of Nancy Drewing that next time on and I think they might be on the same tribe? I think on the other hand saying Mary, right? This was an idea we had built up so much in the pre-merge and then nothing

happened when Mary wasn't even on the same group as say when she was voted out. So there's a good chance that it might not come to fruition or it might be used as an excuse even if Sage is an abstention to be like well Sage was saying all these things and so let's vote Shannon off here but I agree

to unfortunately say, sage's chagrin. I need to keep them together in this third iteration of the tribes. I need Sage to play the entire pre-merge with Shannon just to have this resentment built to a fever bitch. Yeah, we can only dream, right?

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, I think I think if they were on separate tribes and like, let's say Shannon goes, like just the reaction from Sage when the tribes come back, like that will be worth. Like there will be moments that will be joyous. But I do feel like there were a lot of clips of them together.

So either those clips were before the swap or the, like in the next time on, or they do end up together, which would be absolutely lovely. That would just be so fabulous. Because, yeah, I just feel like that's what's been living rent-free in Sage's mind. And so for her to be able to close that chapter at some point would be beautiful. Well, before we close this chapter, move on to our usual B&B stuff, I didn't want to talk about the journey for a second. Because, like, I will say something that's really working for me.

me on Survivor 49 are the journeys. And look, I could see to a certain extent people talking about like, okay, what did we just watch? Nobody got an advantage. They just did manual labor for 10 to 15 minutes. But I think for me, my own bar for what I want from journeys is at a fairly low level where I just want cross tribal mingling. You know, I don't like the journeys where it's like you run into somebody on the subway platform that's like, hey, good seeing you. Well, I'm going on the gene. You're going on the end.

So I'll see you later. We're like, they barely talk with each other and then they go off on their separate directions. I want to see them, especially people that haven't met before. You want to see them mixed. You want to see them maybe for antipathy or empathy and sympathy towards each other and possibly let that germinate down the line.

And we saw that to a certain extent obviously didn't pan out with the three guys in episode two, right? Because Jake leaves the episode after. Matt twice to work with Joanne, but clearly that was barking up the wrong tree. But here with the Nate and MC thing, not only does it allow, you know, Nate an opportunity to get to know this person, but this was such a fun sequence for Nate. I mean, obviously very inspiring from MC as well, talking about her own body image issues and showcased it at like, hell yeah, she's an absolute powerhouse when it comes to this. But like, Nate doing the producer thing, which is very much like, I'm going to slow.

he manipulate this situation to get what I want, but without making it overtly seem like I'm doing so and not have you mad at me, was so much fun. Like, honestly, this is going to be odd to say. I've loved talking with Nate.

He might be my favorite character of the show so far. That's fun. I've been really liking Nate as well. I mean, I have to feel a little bit for MC because, like, if I'm doing manual labor and I'm out of breath.

The last thing that I wanted to do is talk. I remember one time people convinced me to climb a mountain and like it was like those big like stairs and like you're going up for like hours and they're like, you know, motivate me. Come on, you can do it. Come on. Come on, Chantelle. And I'm just like, shut up.

I need to concentrate on one foot after another. So she's better than me because I'd just be like, Nate, I know we're supposed to be getting to know each other here and I appreciate you making this effort. But I mean like you're going to have to shut up because this sucks. I wouldn't be able to do it, but I appreciate that they were able to get that dynamic of flowing. Yeah, I think from like the structure of the journey, I think it did give them a potential opportunity to talk. But that was only because Nate took advantage of the situation, right? That's exactly it.

Yeah. I completely agree. Like if I was out there carrying bags, I'm not chichatting. I'm just like, I got to carry the stupid fucking bags is so heavy. Right? So like I would not be focusing on that. I wouldn't even probably wouldn't even think of that. But I think then that's where I want to give.

credit for being like, how do I take advantage of this situation for me, knowing that I am, you know, can carry the sandbags, but am definitely not going to out beast MC. Like, there's absolutely no way. So, and I also love the fact like, so there were multiple decisions that he makes, right? So the first is the chatting, the conversation, the relationship building. Love it. The second piece is when they find the second note, right, that, oh, hey, how do we do this in a way that actually benefits the has the likelihood of benefiting both of us.

Like he recognizes that MC is or at least he is able to take advantage of the fact that MC is like a collaborative player and was willing to not to be risk averse in the sense of let's set themselves up so that at least they don't both lose their boat. Because there's a universe where MC just takes off

into the jungle. Like if MC is like I can beat this man, his bags are on his own because I'm pretty sure and Mike, correct me if I'm wrong, if she goes out and just finds the advantage, she gets her vote, right? No matter why. That is correct. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The note specifically said the person who finds the

advantage gets to keep their vote and the other person has to finish it all on their own and their vote is the only one that's at risk. Yeah, exactly. So if MC had recognized like, I can beat this man. Right. She could have just taken off. She didn't even have to call him back over to be like, hey, I

found this thing. We need to read it together. She could have just gotten on a boat and take it off. Yeah. Exactly. Um, but so, but I mean, I do think like if I were an MC's position, I would, even if I did have the physical upper hand, I would still probably do the same thing. That's because I'm a more conservative player. So I don't like begrudge MC's decision to not just bolt off into the jungle. Like I get it. I get why she made the decision that she did. But anyway, so to go back to Nate's choices. So that so one was a social. Second was the the, the getting most of the bags done. And then the third was the, hey, Sansa, Sansa must stop. It reminds me. It was a little premature though. this much say I left. It reminds me my mom used to do this trick when we were at the pool because I loved swimming at the pool and she would go, okay, Leanna, do you want to leave the pool in five minutes

or ten minutes? Which didn't really give it was like, we're leaving the pool. It's just however long like you want to do. So it fell a little bit like that or me. It was like okay, MC, like, so do you want to come back here in one minute or two minutes? You don't have the choice to keep looking.

So I thought that that was also very strategic from him. I loved it. I think it's very like subtle but incredibly critical and important gameplay and it's just so fun to see play out like that may may have been one of my favorite segments from the season so far honestly i think he also took a lot of advantage from the fact of how gassed they were right because you would think on the one hand if i'm mc and i go out there and i see so much time left and it's like okay there and there was one bag left to like yeah i might as well take off again and try to look to the best of my ability but because she was just

so taxed like i think it would have taken a lot from her to go back out there in the the first place. So honestly, he was able to kind of win through resignation, right? This is like, I'm just so tired at this point. You know what? I'm here. Let's do it. You know, there is as annoying as it might be sometimes. Like, there is a lot of strategic merit in just wearing somebody down. And that was another good advantage of the, hey, MC, let's keep doing these bags until there's only one left and then we'll look because at this point, a if you really impugn your own searching skills that much then like

okay then at least maybe you even the field a little bit more and B you exhaust MC as well to the point and maybe that was another thing about the talking too where it's like yes it's a way to get to know her but also like she's using a lot more breath that way and so if she has to go hunt for something like great she's going to be a lot more fatigued and that's either going to help me find something or

be able to have me convince her you're too tired I don't want to go out and look for an advantage at this point come on let's chill on the beach I'll talk to you more about my pink hair and my lip piercing now why don't you think that he just like did maybe like a light

look like he just didn't from what I saw anyways or remember he didn't do any looking at all do you think because he didn't want people to think that he love so that he can say that like I oh I didn't have anything to do with an advantage like I would have liked him to maybe just could maybe look at the

you know nearby area maybe a little bit I'm sure he did I think the issue with Nate unfortunately is that it's a bit of a self-defeating prophecy for him I think that as someone who has spent what like 40 something years on this planet and he's like I know one thing is that I can't find shit and so like maybe there is a little bit of like I'm not going to look that hard because I'm not going to find it

anyway why am I going to expend all this energy doing so which like on the one hand might be bad if his back is ever against the wall and he has to look for something on the other hand has now worked for him maybe not twice because again it'd be nice for him to have the idol instead of Rizzo though again he's like

hey I don't like going on a journey because it put the target on your back so like again this is despite this subtle manipulation he's doing this is Mr. Old School survivor right he came into the game wanting to feel this way and he's continuing to do so even a week and change into the game yeah I think there was one B roll shot of him

like digging through the bush but but yeah I think like he had said a couple episodes ago I'm bad at looking for things and the rest of my tribe is bad at looking for things. So, like, he recognizes that about himself. Also, shout out to Joanne for stacking the rocks to ensure that Nate would go on the journey. Like, we got to give the assist to Joanne. Yeah, I love that. I mean, listen, you know, reheating Lauren from Survivor 44's nachos a little bit in terms of rigging the draw. And like, if you're Jason, can you do anything? Could you be like, no, I want to do the rocks and then you get

probably outvoted there. I don't know, did the two of you wrestle for rocks at a certain point? Yeah. I wonder what would have happened if Jason actually did go on the journey? Like, how would that be all different? Would he see the note and just take off into the forest to try to find? I mean, if it

was him and MC though, I mean, very easy. Hey, hey, MC, if you find you. I need help. I need help. Right. I need help. Yeah, exactly. Like, I'm in danger. I will go home tonight. I need this advantage. Like, let's look together. You give it to me and then I'll help you finish the sandbags or something like that, right? Like, that's the day. When you have

two alliance members coming together, you can play the game a little bit differently. But it also makes me wonder, though, at the challenge if the new Kella group didn't think of throwing it more, because, like, you see Matt's voted out, right? Maybe it's just because they had certain feelings towards Matt. They're like, it's fine.

We don't want to work them down the line. But like, if you felt a certain way about Jason, maybe you would consider throwing it. I do have a thought, though. Could it all come down to the allure of the chickens. Could it be that the reward was worth playing for so, so much that they're like, shit, we can't lose out on those chickens. We can't lose out on traumatizing ourselves by having to murder these things. Jason murder a chicken. Jason murder a chicken. I mean, I really don't

think the chicken is a good reward. Like, again, you want to have some meats, you know, you're starving, et cetera, et cetera. But, like, have to put yourself through killing the chicken, pulling out all the feathers out of the chicken, like, I don't know. It just, yeah, it just wouldn't be my idea of a reward. And, yeah, like, what about the Cia of it all? I know Cia doesn't do the whole, give the award to people anymore or the money to people. But, you know, the reason why she was doing that was because, what's his name, Ty?

He was saving the chickens. and like she appreciated that and so I don't know I'm sure why they brought back this chicken thing and I feel bad that they had to go through killing it as a reward like murder for reward it's weird I mean I will give you the reason why they brought it back as a reward and it's Survivor 47 if you remember it was that the got to tribe the Sam and Andy and Rachel tribe got the chickens and then none of them wanted to kill it so they came they brought the chickens back and they're like can we trade can we give me these that like I think they saw some entertainment value in that plus there is some personal content in the form of Alex being like I'm a man now I killed that chicken with a bear hand look at me bros so like I think that there was and it's also classic survivor stuff right I mean one of the most infamous arguments in tribal in a survivor history came from a thing around the chickens with Kimmy with Alicia so it just feels like that element that keeps existing evermore. Sia is done.

See ya later. We welcome slaughtering into Survivor once more. It's back, baby. Yeah, I was the only thing I felt like was missing was Sophie's opinion on the reward because I feel like she

poo-pooed the fruit so badly. I'm like, well, I'm like, well, done this. Yeah, she pooped a lot. Yeah, I mean, all that fiber. It's like, hey, does the chicken interest you, Sophie, is this a reward we're playing for? I do think, like,

I don't know, maybe she just didn't say anything interesting, but I think that would be like a very funny through line joke, which is for Jeff to always go to Sophie to be like, and does this interest you? How's this? Is this anything? Yeah, what do you think about this? So I'm going to assume she was on board

for the chicken. So then I think, yes, it would have been a very valuable reward. Yeah, this actually did provide a very unintentionally funny moment from Stephen, right, where the two guys are bonding. And I would say like clock this relationship because like, you know, the two of them were talking strategy earlier on the episode. They were bonded in

poultry blood, I suppose, with the fact that they were the ones that were outfitted to kill the chicken. But then like, Alex was being like, if you have to have to kill anything? And Stephen starts by saying, well, my roommate's dog. It's like, oh my God. They realized we were working with a flat out sociopath. Oh, yeah.

Oh my God. That was such a funny moment. I also, I think it was Stephen who gave the confessional too, which actually Shantel goes back to your point about this, maybe not being such a great reward but he was like here's some farm chores which I did like that as well that was very funny yeah I did enjoy that I've been calling him like an anti-reward

I think of like your reward is actually doing more work but yeah just the thought of like imagine if Stephen was like yeah who's everyone's favorite player mine's Brian hiding it's like oh my god who is this bad who are we sending up into space yeah every once in a while the little like

info dribbles out that we learn more more about Stephen. I mean, again, he went to Heritage, so we all knew. I was going to say, Leona's like not beating the allocation. I was like, I've been new, okay? If you were doing attack ads for him somehow, you take that one clip out of context

of like, Stephen Ram. Stephen Ram killed his friend's dog. Yeah, exactly. Look, the Arapaho Heritage high school rival Rico's deep, okay? Well, let's see how deep we thought Jason would go in this game shall we? Because Jason, obviously

incredibly unique situation, brought in as an alternate one of two 12 hours before the game began. Would he last 12 days in Survivor or perhaps more? Liana, how'd you think Jason was going to do? What was your verdict on

the law clerk in this season? Yes. So I did have Jason making the jury. I said that Jason formed early bonds with Stephen and Sophie as game sharks, bringing in MC as their fourth and his alternate buddy. This group ran Hina pre-merge and was able to direct a few votes post-merge.

However, the tide turns on this powerhouse and they become the number one target. Jason is able to survive the first hit on the Hina 4 by subtly downplaying his threat level, but he couldn't hit the Noss fast enough and was not so lucky the second time around. I said that Jason would win one individual immunity challenge and shouts how Ruth Bader Ginsburg in his winning confessional. his ally was his ally was Stephen and MC and his enemy was Savannah

I would allow that only if he did Ruth Conda forever Oh my God, imagine interesting I guess I talked with him about Fast of the Furious maybe he talked about playing the game one quarter mile at a time

because I'd imagine the Noss mentioned did not come out of nowhere yeah I got confused as to why I wrote that so I did go back and I look at the notes that I took from your preseason an interview and either he said it or I made it up as a consequence of looking

or of listening to that. So yeah, it was involved somewhere. It didn't just come completely out of nowhere. All right. Leon, I might have just added. I thought she would have outed herself as a big, fast and furious fan, but she's just copying what Jason's I mean, I am. But yes, it was about, okay, just went back to check. It was about

Rachel playing her shot in the dark as a litmus test that she had subtle and social capital and then she hit the NOS. So, yeah. Ours get high off Nuss. And plus gets high off day. Well, I don't say, actually,

Shantel might have to do a bit of splitting hairs here. Because I was not too dissimilar from my thoughts on Jason in the preseason. I also had Jason making the jury. So here's what I wrote. Jason's anxieties about being a last minute addition to the cast are immediately erased when he becomes the puzzle king of the season. His skills have the Super Smash brother. player going from Alt to Maine

on the dominant Ina tribe. Jason will then get a personal segment in the early episodes talking about how his othering coming into the game and mirrored his life in general and how he has succeeded in spite of that. Jason and MC immediately link up around their shared

unprecedented level experience. What does that even mean? And they bring in fellow former alternate Sophie S to become the Control Alt-Delete Alliance. And indeed, During their limited time, the tribal council, the trio of alts control the tribe and easily delete the outsiders from the game. When one of his allies acquires a vote steal from a journey, Jason uses it to its greatest extent, helping cement a majority and power position for Hina going into the jury.

However, as one of the most outward-facing strategic presences on the season, he is perceived as the brains behind the operation. It even encourages some friendly fire, as MC and Sophie talk about how he's too dangerous to take the final three, especially as a wannabe lawyer. As a result, Jason is poured out of the game like assid from a VAT, but the Ruth Bader Ginsburg Stan is more than happy to serve

on the Survivor 49 Supreme Court. His closest ally was MC, and his enemy was MC and Sophie. Lord. Interesting. They're very, well,

not similar, but obviously you have some pieces. The bones are there. I don't know if it's just recent because I just heard it recently but I'm really kind of into you naming this control I'll delete a lion I love it someone in the comments on our cast post did suggest something like it so I did take it and run with that I just want to give credit where credits do but still bringing it to me you know like I feel like I the fact that you brought it into your prediction I kind of kind of had to give credit to it because it's so good that like you're going to like it's yeah it makes I love it's like the example opposite of killing the messenger thank you person at the comments no it's great I oh sorry I'll have had shown down I just I'm just like I'm just like you're

reiterating like the fact that you brought that in it just it just elevated it and just made it really really fun and I just when I'm like oh nobody's ever used that before oh I like control like I just got me really excited about control all delete alliance and so I it took you do the win for you for me that needs to like i i love the added layer because obviously of the alternates but i would like that is a amazing big brother alliance name like oh my god because you're eliminating people so it's like what do we call ourselves control i'll delete and be like okay your control your alt you're delete and i think you could do it as a three-person alliance right but also i think that in big brother you you could just you could just have it be like because

you need like 10 fingers i don't know whatever is you're typing on the keyboard. Like, you could justify. You don't have to be be a key. You know what I'm saying? Well, you need 10 fingers to type on the keyboard. We don't need 10 fingers. We don't need 10 fingers. But like, the idea is that like you're, somebody's going to click the mouse.

Someone's got to click the mouse. It's going to click the mouse. Well, just like, you know, because you don't want to be like a numbered and not alliance, right? Per se, I'm Big Brother. So, but control out the leads badass. I love that. If I'm ever on Big Brother, I'm using that. I'm stealing it. All right. Listen, you can take, use me for credit and I'll subsequently use the

comment. Let's Mandela affect this. I'm like, oh my God, I can't believe Mike Bloom came up with this on his own. Exactly. That's the title and I remember. That's how academic citations work. Like, I saw the last paper and then the last paper cites the paper before it. And then you have to go back like 20 years before you actually find the original paper.

But it was the findings. So, yeah, it's normal. Well, let's talk about perhaps some original fashion choices here because there's been some notable looks, maybe not. some like notable strategies but there's been a lot of looks to look at in the course of Survivor 49 so far and so calls the time for one of our favorite segments here on the B&B every season above or snuff we will review a select number of castaway looks throughout the time on the island to determine if we are buffing it or snuffing it and I'm here with two paragons of style so I'm very excited to get into this now admittedly a lot of this particular version

on buffer snuff is going to be focused around one particular person. So, Chantelle, I'm going to give you the choice here. Would you rather begin with everything focused around this one particular person? Or would you rather end with that and focus on sort of the more singular stuff first? Let's do singular and then end with the, you know, the pylon.

I like it. I like it. So let me start getting into all this stuff, which, of course, you could check out the full album. If you are not on the YouTube version of this, over at fit.ly slash buff or snuff 49. So let's start with a couple of tribal council looks that I'm very excited to get into. This is one that I've been waiting to discuss for a while,

so I'm really excited to get your thoughts on Joanne's overalls. He's worn these a few times. Now, what I find most interesting about this is that I wouldn't call his undershirt flesh-colored, but like if you look far enough away it does kind of look like he's going like full Ralph Kaiser from Redemption Island

and like not wearing anything underneath his overalls Chantelle what are your thoughts about overalls on Survivor in general let alone Joanne rocking them or not so much I never noticed that he was wearing overall so thank you for bringing this to my attention

I mean I feel like it has purpose because they usually have a lot of pockets. And so if there's any idle searching or whatnot or finding more firewood and twigs, like you can maybe put things in his pocket. So I do think for

functionality, I think an overall is a pretty good choice. I think though for the heat, it's kind of hot and heavy. So I feel like he'd be kind of sweating underneath those overalls. And so, I don't know, functionality, yes. but like actually for your like physiological experience I think you might be

kind of uncomfortable and I think it's wet like wet overalls hot wet overalls it just seems like a bad idea so I'm gonna say probably a just because I would not want to have one of my items of clothing be heavy wet overalls that would just probably take forever

they probably would never be dry right gross yeah they're like actual denim yeah yeah maybe if they're like a like a jegging kind of material maybe that's like the way around it I here's what I do like about the overalls I like the fact that like as you're on survivor and you lose weight you don't have to worry about the waist right because your pants could become loose so you can't wear them anymore you got the straps right like your shoulders aren't going anywhere

hopefully so those are you're going to hold up your pants the entire time you're there so I like it also from a practical perspective also they're not going to be going to the bathroom as much That is my biggest complaint with overalls because if I have to like, I got to like you have to like undress if you're going to go Yeah, you're naked like squatting behind a tree. I was going to ask if there's if we know if there's a pee hole.

Oh yeah, is there a butt slap on these overalls you're on? Let us know. Yeah, exactly. Well, I mean, if he's doing the aqua dump, you don't want to get them wet, right? Like also. So I don't know. I feel like there's there's a lot to take into consideration.

I do think that blue collar is like it's back in, right? Like, let's go trades. So I would say, I would give this a buff. But practically, there's like a lot of pros, but also a ton of cons, as Chantel pointed out. Now, here's the thing. Again, the unintentional thievery is once again, completely unconscious. But to contest my earlier point, if you want to disincentivize someone from taking your own property, Would Savannah want to get into thick, wet denim at any point?

So it's like, ha, ha, ha, ha. I wore in clothes that's completely inconvenient for me to wear so that you don't wear it. It could also be something as well. You won't get an Angelina jacket situation, too, of like, no one's asking Joanne for his overalls when he is voted out. Imagine he gets voted out and they're asking for his overalls. And he has to, like, unhook, strip off, and completely take off his pants and walk up there in his like underwear

boxers. I love it. If he's wearing any, right? Because don't some people not wear anything underneath overalls? I don't know. I'm not, I've never wore that type of overall before. So I'm not sure about like the underwear choices. Logistics.

I'm going to buff this as well. Like it feels like a very cute look and I greatly on it and like invokes a trades aspect which like Joanne is not. Right. Like this dude is a VFX editor. But I think he's trying to provide this image of like, hey, I'm just this really fun kid, right?

I'm dressing like I'm from the 90s or I'm dressing like I'm going to preschool. And everyone's like, oh my God. But I think, you know, that might become an issue when they feel like he's so immature that he's just taking things that don't necessarily belong to him. But I think overall, it is a good look. So I will give it the buff. And I think, Juan, wears it well. Maybe it's also the optical illusion of the flesh-colored shirt making me feel like

he's not wearing anything. underneath it, so I'll keep riding that until I'm proven otherwise. I'm wondering though, too, like, do you think he watched maybe season six of Love Island with how Rob was always wearing like the overalls with no shirt underneath? He was getting all the ladies, he's the snake charmer,

you know, and I think maybe maybe he wanted to make people endeared to him as well as like, you know, emulating this look that Rob had that was so popular. Well, maybe Joanne's on traitors next. Who knows? And maybe he's like, listen, I heard what's going on. So let me make sure that I jump in on there.

There's a direct corollary between overalls and traitors cast members. I would like to see, actually, maybe you guys even know. Hasn't written a lot of players on Survivor that have been overall. Whereas I can only think of Tom. That's the only person that I can think of Tom, yeah, yeah. But like, has there been, is this like the first resurgence of overalls on the show in a while? No, because I actually remember very specifically, Leon. I remember you and I talked about Shan's Luigi look where she had the overall.

and the green shirt in 41. And that's the one that I remember most recently. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So maybe it's more common than we think. Carolyn had overalls.

Oh, she did. Yeah. I forget she had purple overalls. Yeah. Shan. Who else? Mariah had overalls. Oh, yeah.

You can't jump Mariah? Yep. Can't jump. Mariah had overalls. I feel so bad at that. I don't. I think is Kelly Nalbandian wearing overalls? Oh, she might be.

There's also sort of like, there's like the heavy denim overalls and there's like, there's a type that like Angela loves to wear that's like more of a fabric. Technically it's overalls because there are the straps, but it's more of like a spaghetti strap and fabric instead of denim. That's what Kelly's wearing. Camilla also is wearing overalls. But also kind of a little bit of the looks like the lighter fabric.

Whereas Mariah is not. look like the heavy maria can't jump or the higher the heavier denim ones similar with carolins like the heavier denim ones are we okay are we low key getting overalls every season we're just not paying attention this is our fault well let's go ahead go ahead jump oh i just say like i wonder though with like how overalls are coming in because most people don't majority people don't wear overalls in this kind of what style whatever in our regular life and it's kind of was thinking of like when I, when I work as a flight attendant, I'm doing a layover.

The stuff that I pack in my bag to wear on layovers, I never wear at home. And so I'm wondering if it's like a similar thing with like, you just, you're bringing out the clothes or you're purchasing the clothes that you would never actually wear in your real life, but it's to have like your statement pieces

on Survivor. Because like, I just don't know if I see Joanne as the overall wearing guy like in his regular day to day. So I'm just going to, I wonder how they're going to do it. They talk about, hey, when you go out to Fiji, you shouldn't wear clothes that you really treasure. And so he's like, oh, yeah, I don't want to spend money on stuff. So, like, here's some overalls that have been burning a hole in my closet.

Hopefully, I don't burn a hole in them by leaving them near the fire to dry. All right. Well, let's, we invoked her beforehand. We couldn't get her thoughts on the chickens. But I want to get your thoughts, Leanna, on Sophie S. deciding to be the hat she wishes to see in the world. I don't know if you saw this. couple of spare shots, but just to describe it to people out there, because Christina wore this as well

when they were picking who to go on the journey. Sophie has taken a couple of big ass leaves and kind of like banded them to her head via her buff to create sort of her own version of a ball cap. I love this. I absolutely love this. This is 100%. Like one of the biggest, I can't go outside in the sun without sunglasses. Like I just can't. It hurts my brain. Like so for me, this would be me out on survivor with a leaf strapped to my head. So I this is, look, is it a bit ugly? Sure. But I don't even care

from a practical perspective. This is a 10 out of 10. I absolutely buff this. I love it. I think one of my favorite things about it, Chantelle, is the fact that because it is so green and because of the point, it actually reminds me a lot of like a Robin Hood type of hat, right, like some of those medieval feathers

in your cap. You can probably find a feather a la Philip Shepard and put it in there. And then like Robin Hood has this very great mentality right steal from the rich give to the poor so if he's like listen i'm going to help you all out here i'm dressed like robin hood and i'm going to do the exact same thing i'm going to rob from the uleys and give to the hinas i mean i'm with leona here i love this hat um and for me i'm also a person that can't be out in the sun without shade i don't wear shades necessarily because i need reading glasses and i feel like i can't see or read things when

wearing sunglasses so I would definitely be trying to find something to shade I think this is inventive it's not the prettiest I agree but I wouldn't care when I'm like hot in this blazing sun yeah I was at like an engagement party

or sorry like a bachelor at party and we were in the backyard like we rented this big cottage and we're in the backyard and there was no there was no shade anywhere so we were all like trying we were all making things for shade and so I feel for her because, like, I understand how you could be craving shade of.

We were, like, hiding under ledges and, like, you know, like any little bit of shade. I think this is ingenious. It's very practical. And I would be doing something very similar. So I definitely, I'm into this one. Well, I know that we are certainly past the era of, you know, providing sunglasses on Survivor. You know, our friend, mentor, boss Robespierino, of course, rocked them on Survivor the Amazon. so what if instead of these you know trivial food rewards instead they give away like

survivor caps you know or sunglasses that would be worth playing for i think sophie herself even though she's been able to my guy for some stuff she would certainly compete the harder she could if it meant she got to wear some ray bands on the island oh i mean i would i'd be competing for that do you want comfort like i would like i would need to have a hat well like why can't people wear hats anymore? Is it for continuity with like shots? Like I just don't even get my hats or anything. I think it honestly depends to your point about like character type and what gets past

wardrobe. It might be like a framing thing and a lighting thing too. But again, it hasn't stopped one of the fucking most famous people on the show from wearing a ball cap or a Patriots cap every single time he's played. Plus not to perpetuate the capitalism of it all given the Robin Hood comparison. But it's an opportunity for sponsorship, Survivor. So, like, you know.

They have their own hats that you can buy on the CBS store. Just have to wear that. But for the sunglasses, right? Like, like you said, you can partner with aviators or whatever other sunglasses brands exist and be like, wow, it's the same as Applebee's, right? It's the same idea. What they should do is remember that idea that Jeff Probst had before COVID, where it was like, Great, Survivor 41 is going to be a big trading outpost.

And Rick Devin is going to pop up and sell you stuff. Yeah. Whatever they just turn that into like a pack sun? And it's like, hey, you can buy some sunglasses if you want. too. It costs you your boat. No, what if Sophie actually started her own brand of Survivor hats? Like she might be on to something

being like, hey, let's make some functional like survivor hats like based off of this model that she, this prototype that she created out here on the on Fiji. Mm-hmm. I love it. I'd buy one. All right. Well, let's go

from one Sophie to another, shall we? Just keep everyone nice and confused. This is actually something that Sophie B has commented about on her social media as well because fortunately we have seen her a number of times at tribal council every single episode

but at least the fits are fit in as yeah Sophie's got a lot of patterns going on at this moment but we have seen it time and time again particularly these pants I feel like the pattern pants or something that she talks about a lot she has listed out I believe

where you can get this stuff if you want to steal her look not steal her vote Chantelle, what do you think about Sophie's tribal get up here? I mean, I don't think I've ever, it's pants in a top, right? Like it's not like, it's pants in like a sweater, okay. And are they're not matching though? Because it seems like some of the pattern. Okay.

I mean, I definitely was into the pants. Like she had like a segment about her pants and how her butt looks straight in the pants. So I remember that segment. I don't remember seeing this together. But I'm not, I don't mind a pattern on pattern. over like too much going on i i think i'm kind of into it like into kind of like a i even know she seems like a like a medicine woman or some somebody like a wise woman like sage a wise sage with her with this outfit right now and so i'm kind of into it i i don't mind that it's

it's multiple patterns here i i i vibe with it it seems kind of regal yeah it is a little bit like jarring initial and for me like i'm not a crazy pattern person but i think for her, it really works. I think also with the necklace, the buff, like it really all just like pulls the whole look together. I love the pants. I would also wear those. So those definitely a buff. But I think the full look

for me, like if I, if I, including the accessories, it's absolutely a buff. I mean, I feel like there is something as well to like making yourself so alluring by being so distracting with your patterns. It's peacocking a little bit. I'm like, hey, I've got a lot going on both as a person and

And from a decor perspective, you know, my wardrobe has a lot happening behind the scenes, and so does my strategic frame. Maybe that's something that you're trying to set up to people. The sweater also looks really cozy. I'm not sure what it's made out of. That also might be something that unfortunately does not do well with the rain, though I don't believe they really have had any bad weather out there so far. I think that actually might be the issue is that things are too hot.

They're waiting for some rain to come by. And if so, I mean, God helps Sophie's sweater and Joanne's overall. those things might immediately get tossed into the pile. Yeah. Yeah. But I know I like this one though. Well, let's look on the sunnier side of things. Of course, the sun has been out for quite some time, as we've been mentioning.

But it's been out since the beginning on Jeremiah's shirt, if you remember. This is a thing that Jeremiah rocked during his three episodes in the game. It's a very simple piece, but Leanna, it does feel very loud to a certain extent, much like Jeremiah's last. Maybe it's because Puyah owns so many of these. My hot take is I'm so over these stupid shirts. Really? A million of like these like, but they're buttoned up with like a little collar, but the short sleeves and they're like cash,

flowy material. They'd be perfect for Survivor. They're easily breathable. And they have all these like bloud patterns on them. And every single time, there was an RHAP event. He's like, I got to get more shirts. And I'm like, you own a thousand of these shirts. Wear one of the shirts that you wore like five years.

ago, nobody's going to remember because they all just blend together. So anyway, like, from a personal perspective, I want to snuff this so badly because I'm so fucking sick of all these stupid shirts in our closet. But I have to admit, he, like, doesn't he just look so happy in his shirt? I know. He's just so happy with his sun shirt.

And it's Jeremiah. So, um, unfortunately for Jeremiah, though, at the end of the day, I'm going to snuff it. But I would get it. It has nothing to do with you. It has nothing to do with him. Yeah, exactly. I just want to make it clear, Jeremiah.

It has nothing to do with you. It has everything to do with my stupid husband. What if if he wanted to buy this shirt? Would you let him buy this one? No more shirts. Not at all. Not even like, you know, Jeremiah's shirt.

No, no more shirt. No more Jeremiah shirts. But okay, fine. If he can get rid of because like, okay, you know, bitches be shopping. Women have all the clothes. You know who has more clothes in this household? him easily, not even close.

He has an entire dresser that's just him, like, for all of his stuff. So anyway, he can get rid of the truth. Can we just rewind an hour when Leona's like, I would never do this, but if Pua did something that I was really miffed with. Yeah, I told you, it never happens, obviously, hypothetically. I will stuff this as well.

I think for me, it's very ticky tech. I think the suns are too big. I think for me, if I'm watching it from afar, like, yes, this is the blue tribe, and you don't need to wear like all blue all the time I'm glad that we get a little bit of like secondary color here but like if I'm watching this from afar

it kind of looks like yellow polka dots yeah and I don't know Leada you might do a deep time I feel like we very rarely get people wearing polka dots on Survivor it feels like something you'd see out of the circus or a Dr. Seuss book and that's pretty much it

polka dots are probably one of the most niche patterns that anyone can pull off And so because this is more so like Pocodots with attitude with the spikes on them, I'm going to have to stuff it. How do I feel? I mean, I don't mind the shirt.

I don't have a, you know, a feeling about it. I hate these types of shirts. So I can really go off of. You know, I understand your point, too. They do look like big. Like if I squint my eyes, it looks like he's wearing Pocodots. I definitely don't like it when I squint my eyes. but when I see that it's like Jeremiah and it's a smiling

and little son or he's smiling and all these sons like I just he looks so cheerful and happy but the shirt isn't that cute though it's a squinting it's terrible when you squint so I'm going to have to agree with you guys it's going to be a snuff but it was almost above but it's still enough I think uh the lone exception I would say

could pull up a polka dot is Shawnee from Australian Survivor, but like, I don't even know if that shirt count. I'm thinking Pocodots is like, specific circles. Herds is more so kind of like spackled, right? It's kind of like marvellized. Yeah, the iconic red of white dress. You need, um, you need Pocodots with overalls. That's the next.

I want to see it. No, because they just look like a clown. Like, you might as well wear oversized overalls. Okay, but like you were kind of alluding to this with the Robin Hood thing. We've talked about this before where it's like your clothing can signal to other people like things about you. So maybe you want to be, Maybe if you're the lawyer of the season and you're like,

I don't want to come across as a clown. I don't know. I just wear like comically large pants. Shoes. Yeah. Those would benefit as flippers in the water. That's actually not a bad idea from a functional brisbac. All right.

You're the Survivor 51 contestants. Get as much clownish wardrobe as you can. That's a lesson from us to you. Okay. What do you use the nose for? Like, hide an idol in there. How to beware advantage.

Hide a bow. Yeah. Or a sponge. to clean things. I think there's a yeah, there's a lot of opportunities. Yeah, like a scouring brush. Okay, well, I mentioned this before that one particular person is really going to be the center of this all. And she was the center of a lot of strategic talk in this episode. Let's talk about Savannah. Now, I want to start with this one because Leanna, this is one you actually brought to my attention. It is sweater weather

after all. We talked about this with Sophie and we're going to be talking about it with Savannah as well. This was seen chiefly as she was complaining about Joam, but Leanna was more so paying attention. to the apparel that she was wearing. Give me your thoughts on Savannah's sweater here. Okay, this sweater is like, this is not something I personally would wear. I can't wear a ton of patterns, but I love this.

It's so cute. It's so pretty. I do think it can also suffer from the wet, heavy, well, like weighing down, but it just looks cozy. Like,

I just want to like curl up in it. And I think on Survivor, that would be absolutely wonderful. And I think it also just makes Savannah stand out so much. Like, obviously she's getting a ton of confessions anyway, but when I see her in this, I'm like, bam, boom, bang. Like, that is present.

That is, that, this is charisma in a sweater, baby. Like, I just, I love it so much. Wow. It's a look so great. Leon's gone full automotapia. I know. I know. That's how much I love it. I feel like it looks itchy. You think it looks cozy? I feel like it would be itchy. Oh, maybe this is the ultimate trap of like,

Joanne, don't you like this itchy sweater? Ooh. He hasn't tried to steal it yet, so maybe it isn't comfy. I do like this, this pattern. It kind of reminds me of, you know, back in high school days where it was called like IntiCraft, this store. And it had like these kind of interesting knitted patterns, sweaters and hats and stuff like that.

So I kind of like it for me, nostalgia-wise, where it just reminds me of like my youth. And it's red without just being all red, you know. I like the fact that it has other colors and other patterns. in it. It does look like it might be itchy. Like I can't tell if it's like what kind of wool or whatever it is. But all in all, I think

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Now that's a mountain of entertainment Now that's a mountain of entertainment Now Never before has someone really put the buff in buffer snuff More than Savannah Louis Because she has rocked a number of headware Look sometimes with the buff sometimes not Over the course of the season so far

And I think we really need to break it down copiously. So let's start with probably her most common look that I have coined the Prison Mike, which is this bandana that she wears over her head. We saw this a number of times across all five episodes. What do you think about this look, Chantelle? I mean, it looks like it doesn't look like she's on Survivor.

Like it looks like something she might actually wear in her regular life. So I think it suits her Especially since she's kind of dictating what people are doing Like I feel like she looks kind of like a boss But like a casual boss I like this look I think it looks good on her I think she's able to utilize

You know the red and the bandana Around her hair To keep her hair out of the way Instead of like a regular ponytail I'm into this look I think she looks great It is really cute I really love this look

I don't know, how did she manage to get this out there? Like, I just, again, I don't know, maybe this is the overall effect where it's like, I go back and I look in Survivor history and in fact, everybody from every season has at least one person's had a bandana. But like, to me, this is very surprising. I love it as like a utility item because I think not only can she style it this way, but she can also use it in a couple other ways if she wanted to. If she wanted to.

If she wants to rob a train. If she was exactly a tourniquet, if she becomes injured, if she gets taken by a snake. Oh my god if Jake could have been saved if he was only on the tribe with the person with the bandana I know Jeremiah's like how can I use my son shirt

oh my gosh that would have been so funny so yeah so I buff this I love this I think she just she also just looks so cute here with the jean shorts and the top like I love it I do agree that it is interesting

that they have buffs which are sort of like a makeshift bandana and that they chose to have her bring another one out. I mean what's also incredibly unique is that with the bandana look she does look like a pirate and I don't know if you want to

trust that necessarily not to be fair Joanne's the one that's been pirating her things but it does give a little buccaneer to me. I'm into it still it is a little bit piraty but she is able to

gather the troops like people are Like I just feel like she looks like a team player even though she's kind of dictating what's going on. So I think and she looks great. She's really pretty. Yeah, I think it's, I don't see as much. Maybe she had like some poofy sleeves or something like that. I would like lean more.

Like a pig leg. Yeah, a pirate or a parrot on her shoulder perhaps. Like I just feel like she's one accessory away from me seeing pie. Like I don't see pirate. Yeah, this is like, you know, we're like, oh, I'm a sexy pirate for Halloween. It's like you just wear a bandana. Yeah, a bandana and a bikini And you're like, I'm a sexy pirate

All right, well, I think we all laud this and I love getting to also see it again and again Because like clearly Savannah knows that it works Let's see if this next one works maybe as well This next look I'm calling the double D from Ed and Eddie which is Savannah just kind of wearing the buff As a big old sock on her head This is when she's talking to Joanne by the way about

Matt being a sociopath. Yeah. This is just like a slight point away from cone heads, right? Like I, for me, this is a, this is a snuff. For me, I think I'm sure it's practical, but like, she looks like a tube. She's wearing a tube on her head. Like, it's not particularly stylish.

She's got to dress like a yellow crayon shot. I was more so thinking, like, had a condo on her head. Like, obviously, I know. I can protect you. Look at a gun on my head. It's not cute to me personally. I don't really love this look. I know when you're out there,

you don't really care what you look like. You're just like, okay, my hair is down as hot. Like, oh, it's functional or whatever. You're not really worried about, like, what you look like because there's no mirrors or whatnot, but it's just not cute. I don't love this look. I definitely will take bandano. over this cone head

condom vibe. Yeah, I think for me, what's disquieting about it is the lack of visual on the hair. For me, it's like, if you're hiding your hair from me, what else are you hiding? You know, that is,

so I feel that about anybody. You know, I guess maybe with guys, it's more sort of ingrained from a natural perspective because they have less hair. But yeah, look at like, again, the buffkaneer look, like, She's got the hair flowing down. It's a fantastic, you know, pairing with the bandana.

Here it's like, there could be a lot in there. Your hair is full of secrets at this point. I mean, you can see a little bit of it flowing out. Actually, yeah. Okay, so look, here's the thing. I think the way I feel about this is like incredibly practical, not fashionable, right? But like, like, yeah, you could hide, you're hiding your hair up there. You're hiding your idols up there, right?

What else are you, you're hiding your secrets up there? So I think that I think also like she's already an incredibly little teeny tiny human and like her hair kind of helps to proportionalize like the rest of her body as well Oh yeah So it's giving like a little pinhead

Ish right You know what it's giving? It's giving like If she got shrunk down To like a super small size like Thumbolina and is like wearing a fimbled for a hat You know it's like this feels a little too oversized Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And I think also, like, it's tough

because this is, like, I would love to see this with her OG Ulybuff. Like, maybe this, maybe it's a color thing. Like, maybe it's just because it yellow is so, like, bright and, like, stands out so crazy. All right. Well, last but certainly not least, I have one more look for you. And the bandana, as we talked about about maybe questioning how it got past production, it's because it has a lot of purposes.

And so this final look I'd like to call the Elizabeth Hasselback, uh, because Savannah has taken her band. and you saw this a couple times during the episode kind of like tied it into a bow somewhat and just kind of nestled in the middle of her hair. Do I like this or do I not like this?

Like I don't even know. She looks cute. It's not super functional. She's probably just like, oh my God, let me just turn my hair up. Like what do I got? So it probably wasn't really well thought out. With the whole ensemble with like her

yeah. I know it's a snuff. I don't like it. I don't like the whole thing. And I think it's because of the yellow buff. I think it's the yellow buff I don't like. If only she got swapped on to Kella, would have been a lot better.

Yeah, it was still red, like monogrammatic red vibe going on. I think I could get behind it. But it's just like that pop a yellow that comes out just takes me, takes me out of it. And so, yeah, it's a snuff. I'm just like, how did she do that from a logist? Like, how did she tie it into, like,

did she take like strands and then all, also use the, the, like that's, okay, that's what I need to know. First of all, I actually do love this. I'm going to personally buff it, but I want to know how to do it on myself. Like, I need her to drop the YouTube tutorial girl. So she has bump with a contingent that she tells you expressly how to do it. That's good. I love that.

Buff with the contingent that she on social media, or at least to me personally, tells me exactly how to do this. Yeah. I mean, I kind of love the messiness of it all because maybe that also sets up like, hey, I'm not all buttoned up, you know? I just kind of woke up. and threw this look together. But yeah, there is something weird about kind of the highlighter yellow

contrasted to it as well. I think it's really tough because the bandana, like the prison mic look is so good and so neat that the goofest to the gallant, I don't know, I'm really back and forth about this one. Like, I'm giving it like a spuff, like go halfway through. No, you know what? I'm going to buff it. I'm going to buff it.

I like it. It's something different to. see her hair. You know what? If I see your hair, you're there. That's how I always think of if I see your hair, you're there. But now I'm really intrigued to see because this is only a recent look we've seen from Savannah. Like, see how many ways she can skin a cat or de feather a chicken when it comes to how much you can use this bandana on Survivor. Yeah. Let's see what she can do. Our fashion icon of the season. All right. Well, I will turn to an icon of this very podcast to finish things off.

Shantel, you know how we end things here on the B&B. We give our guests a chance to highlight a charity or cause that is important to them. So please, what do you want the listeners to know about this week? I mean, I think I've talked about it before, but it might have been a couple years ago, but it was plan international. They do a lot of work with young girls and empowering young women and definitely having opportunities to, you know, sponsor children, allowing them to have

more opportunities in their life. So I would like to highlight Plan International. Amazing. Well, Shantel, thank you so much for coming on talking to us about this episode, offering your thoughts on not only the fashion statements of these castaways, but the people that actually wear them

on their bodies. Of course, you are covering essentially all reality TV that's out there in a major capacity on the reality realness. But how would you like people to check it out. Oh, definitely go to my YouTube channel. Reality Realness with three S's. Right now, I'm just doing the Traders Canada and the Challenge 41. I'm sure I'm going to bring some more things as some more has anyone run into your apartment yet to watch Traders Canada considering Kevin Jacobs showing up

on there. No, but a girl that I fly with, her brother is on the season. So I do have a quite direct connection. Who was your, who was her brother? Oh, God, I'm afraid. Oh, Alex, Alexander. Okay. He hasn't really had that many confessions yet, but I'm sure that like, it was just really funny because she'd posted like a little clip about Traders Canada. It was just the part with, with Kevin.

And I was like, you watch the traitors? Like, what do you? I'm like, and I think I've even told her the story about like, you know, my neighbor, but like she doesn't watch the show so she didn't really can make the connection. She's like, what? I'm like, my brother's on the show. I'm like, this is wild. So I do get to have a rooting interest in somebody that I literally see on a regular basis.

We just did our training for this new company together. And so, yeah, her brother's on the show. So that's kind of fun too. Oh, my God. So check that out. Chantelle has some insider info as to how he is as a person and perhaps as a player. Anything else you like to plug right now? That's all I.

Well, Gino, actually, I lie. No, I've been talking with Chappelle on his channel recap, kickback about flavor of love because I had never seen it before. And so I'm getting my first take of the show with Chappelle guiding me through it. So we're halfway through season two now. And yeah, it's been honestly amazing. Like, I've always known who New York was. And, like, you know, seen her do a lot of things in more recent years. But I never knew her origin story.

and so like officially. And so I've been going on that journey with him once a week even talking about it. And we're probably going to go through the entire flavor of love universe as kind of like me getting all my education because I didn't have VH1 when I was growing up. If you, this is absolutely worth the price of admission.

If you need any sort of like entry point, not say entry point, but like a reason to watch. There was a certain point that Chappelle tells me this all the time where you, Chantelle thought, yeah, Zayber never think that Hottie looks like Beyonce and it was like oh my god Shantelle and I think you were like one episode away

from that moment iconic this is why we love this format this is why we love this podcast and check it out I also check out Shantel in particular your reaction to what happened in the premiere of flavor of love too because there is a lot of shit going down

in a manner of speaking absolutely oh and I also did like an actual reaction so Chappelle was like okay I can't remember which episode maybe episode no the finale episode where pumpkin leaves. He's like, he's like, okay,

at the clock ceremony, I want you to record your reaction. So I pointed out of my here and like I record a reaction to him of that exit and then we replayed it for the people. So I... Which is wild.

Like, I know that you knew New York. Like, I'm stunned that you did not know about the spitting. I didn't. Like, I didn't add to have any clue

when it was coming. It was so shocking. It was so good. Well, Leanna, you're spitting game as always on the and Leanna Lounge, you all are back at this point. I know you did a big podcast covering your travels.

Yes, yeah. So we took a week off because we were both sick and now we are back. We, yeah, talked about what everything that happened over the past two weeks just sort of caught up. Again, it was episode 41. So we dropped before, kept the one or tried our best to do that. I don't know. It was a, we were still like feeling under the weather. So it was a little bit of just stream of consciousness.

But I think it was a really fun one. I mean, listen, this, by any of us listen to any of these podcasts, right? Like, yeah, we're not, we're not buttoned up here on the B&B. We're like Joanne's overalls, right? We're just kind of like free. We're relatively held up by straps.

But at any point in time the straps can come down. I'm strapped in and I talked with Jason. I mentioned that before. You can check out my interview over at Parade. Also spoke with the team that was a very sadly, yet beautifully booted from the amazing race this past week. I have a special treat as well. We mentioned him a couple of times.

Maybe he can tell me if goes get high off of pay. Traders Canada star Omar Zahir is going to be joining me to give his thoughts on an amazing race. If you don't know, he is a huge amazing race fan as well as a big brother fan as well. So he's going to have a lot of opinions about what has been a very fun season of the amazing race so far. You can check out everything else I'm doing at a Mike Bloom type.

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incredibly welcome. We are not going to hug the idea and roll our eyes behind its back like Sage does with Shannon. And speaking of that dynamic, next week we will see if it comes to a head because, yeah, as the next time on revealed and the press release confirmed,

we are like actually, actually going back to three tries. I would imagine for an episode, you know, we're already going to be down to 12 people. I think they want to merge at 11. They want to start the jury there. So I don't think we're getting it for much longer. But I'll quickly go around the horn here. Leanna, just initial thoughts without knowing anything about next week's episode about this idea purely.

Why? I mean, I get, look, okay. So here with this would also, would this be like the normal earn the merge spot? Yes. I mean, technically, usually final 13 has been early. the merge, but because of Jake's boot, we're now down to 12 early. Right. Okay. So, okay, fine. Like, I, again, we, and we've talked about this before. We're like, I'm okay with them experimenting and trying new things out. They've been doing it

for so long. Like, let's try and see. Um, I think it was just, I was just like riding the high of like, yay, two tribes. But also, again, as we talked about even in this podcast, if, like, let's say that, you know, the new heena goes back. It's probably just Jawan that's on the chopping block. Like, what's the excitement in that? So maybe we'll, get something new, maybe we'll get something exciting. Let's see how it all plays out. What do you think Shantelle, just sort of like sight unseen at this concept? Well, I just don't want somebody

at that same terrible beach. Like, again, I think it's the beach that hasn't gotten any love. They have chickens now, and fire. I guess, I guess. But I guess I don't love the three tribe format. We already talked about that.

Not that I like the two tribe, but at least it was offering a little bit of variety. and people were talking a little bit more about game a little bit. Yeah, there's going to be a game talk, but like going down to three, it just doesn't, like, who cares? Like, I don't know why they need to do it. So I'm not really that plus about it. Maybe you'll provide something interesting.

So I'll be open, open minded to it. But like, you know, I'm not really expecting that much. The thing I'm most worried about is not the Kela Beach, but the Uli Beach. Because remember, they shut that shit down like three days ago. And so it's like, all right, the abandoned house is open back up for all. believe you have to stay in the old Oolie house like I I feel kind of bad for those four because they would have to not start over completely but like there's probably no embers in that fire like who knows how many resources have been exhausted there again it seems like it's maybe really only for one to two days but regardless we shall see what the breakdown is we thought we had escaped you know four person tribal councils but we will be getting probably one if unless some people have been speculating that maybe it's a one tribe wins and then the other two tribes go together to vote somebody out, the Malcolm Boot infamously

and game changers. So regardless, we shall see how it all shakes down. And of course, Leon and I will be back next week to break down everything that happens and possibly look ahead to the merge. Special shout out to everyone behind the scenes at R.JP for packaging this podcast for your eyes and your ears and Wolf

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