RHAP: We Know Survivor - Survivor San Juan Del Sur Ep 10 | 10 Year Anniversary

Episode Date: November 26, 2024

Rob Cesternino and Josh Wigler are back to dissect episode ten of Survivor: San Juan del Sur, marking its 10-year anniversary.

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Idols are everywhere. Idols are everywhere. I say stick to the plan. Oh, did he just say what I think he said? He said the thing. It's San Juan del Sur 10 years later. He said it. Oh, my God.

All right, Rob Sestrino back here with Josh Wiggler Josh Happy Thanksgiving week to you Will you eat 58 nuggets? I will eat 58 turkey nuggets A feast A smorgasbord Is awaiting

Man One nail down Here as we are Getting into the ohm stretch of San Juan del Sur. Yeah. All right. What a great episode. This episode is called, I thought it was called Stick to the Plan, I would have thought. No, it's called This is Where We Build Trust.

And it's actually, and I thought that maybe, okay, is this where. Strike out. Yeah, that was a swing and a miss. Swing and a miss if we're using baseball metaphors here. There is baseball in this episode. There's baseball in this episode. This would have been maybe where Natalie says this to Baylor when they find the idol together. No, it's where John. It's Reed.

Does Reed say it? I thought John said it to alec it's let me let me say it's uniconic that line who cares stick to the plan or how about i ate 58 nuggets at the eating nuggets competition yeah that would also be a great name for this episode you know what else would be good is risk it for the biscuit would have been a really good name for the biscuit you know i didn't even pull that from the end of the episode i had a i you know i don't always go and like watch it through to the final words which i definitely should be doing and i apologize for that but i had i like i had

to watch what west said here uh yeah just like like instinct drove me like i feel like there's oh yeah he said the thing. There's just so many. He said the things that this this is a great episode. And so just a little behind the scenes production talk. So Josh and I are actually recording this. We usually we're live on a Tuesday to record this. But with it being Thanksgiving week and travel schedules and whatnot. So we're actually recording this a little bit early. And so that I will, you know,

just a message to our surrogates, our San Juan Del Surrogates, Josh Green and Danielle, that next week also was going to be an early recording time. Is this how you're notifying them? I hope we're going to set the proper notification. Look, this is the fail safe, Josh.

Yeah, this way they know. This way they know. Early recording next week as well. Yeah. Due to Rob's travel schedule, I'm going to be holding it down here in San Juan Del Sur. First time hosting a Survivor

podcast in a minute. So wish me luck. Let me drive and we'll see who's in the back seat with me next time no spoilies yeah okay so we're a little bit early on uh this but i'm very excited to talk about uh this was i i love this episode this was really really fun go back and watch so funny uh very very very funny episode of the show really good strategy episode two and you know in in many different ways even if like the strategy itself is perhaps not so great uh but i actually think that maybe some of the strategy is really good in this episode um and of course natalie's awakening uh she is she coming online. The winner is activating

and she like really shows up in this first post. She just shows up. In a huge way. Natalie's best episode of the season to date. It's not close. She is like suddenly the main character of the show where we have chronicled that she is

very much, you know, just a background character for the first nine episodes of the show. We were looking for her like this is in shade. She does not. She is not prominently featured through the first nine episodes. This is not a controversial opinion. We're clocking it all. We've got everything.

Like we are not lying. We are watching all of San Juan del Sur, except sometimes I miss the. We're clocking it all. We've got everything. Like, we are not lying. We are watching all of San Juan del Sur, except sometimes I miss the- We're not hating. We went back looking for her. She doesn't have that much to do. There's not much. And like, we call it out when we see it.

Like, her versus John Rocker is a great moment. But there's just not a ton happening with Natalie here. She inherits Jeremy's storyline. It's like Jeremy is like the main character until Jeremy goes out and then Natalie like takes the baton from him and is going to take it the rest of the way. Correct. And how it's just there's a lot of really fun Natalie stuff. This is Natalie is going to swear vengeance and do what she can to achieve it. Natalie is going to search high

and low for an immunity idol and she's going to find it. Natalie is going to push herself to the absolute physical limit in order to not win immunity, but to get pizza, wings, beer, ice water, cookies.

She crushes it. She's going to save her mortal nemesis' life in this game so that she may get sweeter, colder revenge another day. A remarkable episode for Natalie Anderson. And what Natalie

has talked about as one of the really good survivor winners, I think it absolutely starts here. And it's amazing. Very, very, very, very, very, very fun. But also just an incredible episode for the nails on like a comedic level. Unbelievable, unbelievable stuff. Here we are.

So this episode is going to kick off. It's day 24. We're going to have, see episodes 24, 25, 26. So this would be the end of a modern day of modern season of survivor day 26 yeah hearing this episode uh west nail you know made it as far as every uh new era winner this. I don't think as well. Yeah. Does he make it to 26 days of the new era?

I don't think so. To put Wes in the new era, it's a little hard to do. And, you know, Wes is in some ways targeted a little bit more because of his dad. And I think that he was the fan. His dad ultimately was like the come with guy on this

thing i don't think that keith had really seen much survivor i think west was watching a lot of cbs he was like west is a big cbs big cbs uh vibes guy and so he's watching the show he applies they're both firefighters and so he comes, but he's not a big strategy guy in terms of like how the new era is super strategic. Yeah. Yeah. Wes is a vibes guy. Yeah.

Wes is all about those vibes and he brings them immaculately. We don't even have a character that is very much like a Wes Nail in the new era. I don't feel. Oh, yeah. Well, you have it a lot like deeper than me though i have like some fresh recall on it or at least allegedly i'm supposed to um who would be like west nail in the new era i mean i would say that maybe the closest is like

jonathan and jonathan is not very like Jonathan's like, well, we just don't have like, okay, here's just the Southern good old boy. Like, uh, we do not really have that character in the new era.

I almost would go, uh, like almost erased from the survivor in the forties, sort of that vibe, but he is a much harder gamer uh and a much better player with respect to west now but i think like as far as like a vibes player for me i guess i haven't really even had a chance to talk about him on a podcast because i missed all the 40s until now uh cody a little a little bit like cody's a vibe. I guess so. But he, yeah, he's a vibe guy, but he's a vibes guy.

He's very charismatic and, uh, you know, probably, but yeah, I, maybe that's the closest that we, that we get. Cody is the, is the new era player that I would die to see play again. My fave. Yeah. So all right, let's talk about what happened at the last tribal council jeremy got blindsided but we really see it from keith's perspective uh first where reed is trying to make a big play here reed got voted for by keith and alec and wes but he's like okay i'm but these this is still my idiot army they didn't they didn't really explain it

did they no who the the production or uh any of those the show did the show explain why these nincompoops voted for reed but i don't know because uh reed went through keith's back i guess and reed is just like don't even worry about that just don't write my because Reed went through Keith's bag, I guess. And Reed is just like, don't even worry about it. Just don't write my name down again, okay? I've got a plan. I'm going to get us out of this. This is also a terrific Reed episode, I think. Yes, best Reed episode of the season. For sure.

Not just in terms of his strategic chops, of course. He has an incredible immunity performance here, but he also has the reward swap out and he's just like he's very funny the misadventures of reed the misread adventures you know the miss the missy adventures of reed i'd forgotten that he had done something really nice for her yeah you know uh just uh really really good stuff but yeah he's like he's trying to tell them like

uh here's what we're gonna do we're gonna stay steady as long as we don't turn on each other we're gonna be okay and i love that there's this confessional with keith where he's like oh that reed he's really good at this i'm not so i'm not so much for the numbers and such but that reed he's calculating this all that yeah uh reeds just got it got it down uh so even though he got three votes uh slammed on him reeds feeling all right here uh after jeremy's boot yeah reed i think is very strategic but it's also like very transparent like i feel like that when you know uh reed shows up like at the job interview and he's like oh i brought you guys cookies like uh it's like oh okay it's like i just thought you guys might be hungry that's you know

no other reason i just you know brought this in for you just like uh you know i thought that you know you seemed like that you it was just a nice thing for me from me to you out of the goodness of my heart yeah no ulterior motive whatsoever yeah it's reed makes moves right like reed makes moves kindness is a move you know like uh not that it wasn't moves for jeremy and natalie either uh but i think like like where Jeremy and Natalie, they were making moves with people that they had legitimate misplaced trust in, ultimately misplaced. Reed's making moves with people like whether they are friends or enemies, allies or opponents. I don't think Reed trusts any of these people. And so like Reed is just making moves with his kindness, with all of this stuff.

And like, you could certainly feel it from the viewer perspective. And ultimately they are able to feel it from the player. Yeah. And Reed's target is John. He thinks that John is the person to go after, after this last tribal council where Jeremy went out. We finally,

you would think that we would, depending on like where this season ends up going, that you would think that we would have led with Natalie. You would think that that would be sort of like the A story that we're following. We see really everything from like Keith's perspective first and then we get Natalie talking about Jeremy, the blind side and how she can't believe

that they didn't tell her, but that they do offer her a good gesture. And John says, look, I have to show you, I have the idol. Okay. I wouldn't show you this if I didn't want to work with you.

Show it or just tell her. Oh, maybe he tells her. It's like, I have it. I have it. And Natalie's like, good to know.

Good to know. So yeah, it's their attempt at trying to smooth it over i had remembered natalie being a little more upset about about jeremy going home um but i i guess like it's a little more stone cold than that um it was another great parallel between this past week of Survivor 47 and this week's San Juan del Sur where we have in the previously on the unaired the previously unaired

teeny vote confession of everything I do for the rest of this game will be to avenge you Saul so like if past is prologue, I know that, like, Fishback and a bunch of people are on the let's put TV... Biting hard.

Yeah. You know? So, like, I don't know. I see it. I see it because I just think that the parallels between these seasons, San Juan del Sur and Survivor 47, Rob, they rhyme. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Now, Natalie's reaction to what happened to her compared to Teenie's reaction to what happened to them. Little bit different where, you know, Natalie doesn't come back to Missy and say, hey, did you turn on Jeremy just to humiliate me?

Sure. No, but the trust is broken and the trust with Genevieve obviously is broken. And then I think both characters, calling them characters for the sake of this, both of them have these activation moments in these episodes.

We get an incredible, incredible, very meaningful story about Teenie and their journey with their identity. But beyond that, what we also get with Teenie is like the Phoenix from the ashes moment of my bag been burned. And I'm going to look at that as a sign that this is a new era for me. So, I mean, we haven't really seen like Teenie flip the switch on making good on revenge. In this episode, though, do we really see Natalie flipping the switch on making good on revenge in this episode, though.

Do we really see Natalie flipping the switch on getting revenge? Natalie ends up protecting the person that she wants to get vengeance against. So playing a long game could be, could be a long game for, for both of them. But I do think like, uh,

that was like a huge moment for me watching the 47 episode, knowing that this was Natalie's like, I swear vengeance episode as well. I was like, OK, tracking that for sure. Tracking that with like whatever this like alchemical thing that's happening as we're going back in time 10 years. If anything is happening, got to watch it. Got to watch it. So it's a new year.

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matter and now you can get 300 when you invest with rbc offer ends march 3rd 2025 terms and conditions apply invest with rbc today josh we have our reward challenge where we have to build this statue it's a sort of like uh you know, ho-hum reward challenge. I think that it was kind of cool how they had to build this statue. I feel like that this is not something that you see often on Survivor now, the way that you sort of like have to like stack this thing together. But anyway, Jeff, after the challenge is over, he really keys in on there were these schoolyard pick teams.

he really keys in on there were these schoolyard pick teams uh let's seem a little lopsided for a schoolyard pick uh where it was missy baylor and natalie and wes versus uh john alec wes um i'm sorry uh yeah i'm sorry no wes is on the other team john alec uh read and read yeah read is the one on our team and ke Keith didn't get picked. Keith is good at challenges. What are we doing? Yeah. Like, oh, 53-year-old Keith. We can't put comp beast Keith in the mix. No way. No, sir.

Either Missy or Baylor. Either Missy picked Baylor or Baylor picked Missy. Something got screwed up. John picked Jacqueline. These things happened. These things happened for sure. All right. So nobody picked Weston. Weston picked his dad, maybe.

He wanted to eat. Okay. So Jeff says, let's go to Baylor. What's going on? She's like, it's just my mom. She hasn't eaten. She really needs some caramel corn. Gotta get her to the hot dog stadium because the reward, which is another three that feels right they do it in fiji

so i think they've done they do it a couple more times i think they do it in yeah yeah so it comes up a few more times it's i mean always a crowd pleaser. I'm surprised that we just have not done it at all in the new era. I love it. And I think especially now with these 90-minute episodes, I think that it could really fit in nicely with the runtime without compromising what's going on on the show, like in the strategy of it all. So I would love to see them bring it back.

They're a little remote where they're filming. So I don't know how easily they get everybody to... I would love to see them bring it back. They're a little remote where they're filming, so I don't know how easily they get everybody to... It's probably like an hour and a half away, so they could do it. It might just be tough in terms of schedule to get everybody back in one day, do the challenge, get everybody out there, go do the thing, get them back.

Especially with the with the uh the tightened timetable uh these days that might just be logistically too difficult let's talk about the reward in a second what we have to talk about is that missy isn't getting to go on a reward and reed says i'm gonna give my my reward to missy Tis the season for giving, Rob. And so, Reed gives his plate over

to Missy. And he's like, I'm just being nice. It's just a nice thing to do. Hey, Missy, promise me one thing. Promise me you're going to eat something, okay? Eat something. Eat something. You're too skinny. Come on, Missy. Eat something. Yeah.

In a season where this is already accepted behavior, I like it. The community has decided this is what we do. I actually really like this. He ends up building good trust with Missy. Missy, throughout this episode,

is going to be like, Reed is on our team. He's my friend. He's my friend. That's my lunch. That guy, Reed. It works. He seems to have really gotten in. It's not for...

This is not the reason why it doesn't work out for Reed in this episode. At all. If anything, this really gets Reed quite close to accomplishing his mission. It's the loose lips of another player that will sink this ship. So I like this from Reed. And I imagine in Reed's mind, it's like, I need to just sell to these people. Then I'm in. I'm all the way in. So effective. I do think it works out well.

And if this is transparent stuff to some of the other players it's i don't think it uh pings on missy's radar yeah all right so can i say one more thing about the challenge those puzzle pieces are either rather light or west nail is a superhero uh because he gets to the edge of the dock with one of those puzzle pieces. And he one-handedly like hurls it up onto the dock. So either Wes Nail is just outstandingly strong or they were really, really, really light. They looked pretty light. I want to believe that it was just like.

They look like styrofoam. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. want to believe that it was just like uh like they look like styrofoam yeah yeah yeah okay all right so then let's talk about this reward where they go out it's nicaragua they love to play baseball in nicaragua you're gonna go to the field so it's john jacklin missy and alec uh they go to the field and this is really a lovely segment uh Uh, really it's very, very nice. I was not the biggest John and Jacqueline stands in the real time. I just was very much in the like, Oh,

are they even there to play? Do they even know the rules? Like what is with these like Mac ders? But I have to say 10 years later, um, you know, they're the same. Maybe I'm different.

Uh, that I, I thought that this was all like very touching about their journey to like, that they want to be parents. John is so great with the kids. I know that it's not just like, Hey, they're going to like break up in a year. And it's like, that we're looking at them like John Rocker and his girlfriend and that they're going to stand the test of time. They're going to Jack and are forever. Right. Yeah. They're going to overcome this adversity. They're going to have a kid like this is this is nice for, you know, future John and Jacqueline or John and Jacqueline's kid to like grow up and see this one day.

An unbelievable moment, just like an incredible human moment caught on camera. And I think that one of the reasons I love this season is for better and for worse. It's a very human season. Sometimes it gets kind of ugly. A lot of the time it gets very foolish. And then there are moments where it's surprisingly bright, as in smart. And then there are other moments where it's really bright, as in beautiful. And this is absolutely one of them uh and i think it's also great because like

there's john is a very multi-faceted character on this season where he's like he's he's like goof troop uh while also being like sort of like main character mode um while also like in terms like somehow like in the catbird seat for the strategy of the season at this point, even if it's like somewhat scared and accidental. And then here it's like, no, here's, here's who John is as a,

as a person. And like next week, which you won't be here for, like, they're going to, they're going to go through, they're going to go through some shit as well. John and Jacqueline,

we get to watch them fight on TV. That will be very fun for their kid to see perhaps, you know? And it's, it really is this to see perhaps, uh, you know, and it's, it really is this wonderful moment. Um, I really, I really,

uh, I really love Jacqueline here. Like, I just think that there's just like such like, um, there's just like such a depth of humanity to both of them. That's on display, like seeing them around kids,

knowing that this is a thing that they want, knowing that they have a difficult journey to get what they want, and to your point, knowing that they got it in the time between the season airing and us talking about it now is terrific, is really, really great.

I just feel bad because it seems like John only gave ice cream to one kid unless he fed the rest of his ice cream to others because how do you feed one kid ice cream and the others are like you're not gonna give me any ice cream i felt i had feelings about uh john feeding ice cream uh for the kids no it's it's let them eat their ice cream these kids that they may have access to ice cream we don't't know what their story is. That should be on production. You give them ice cream.

I shouldn't have to share my ice cream with somebody else's kid. My cone. There's no way Missy fed ice cream to anyone. Anybody. No way. It's like, John, I seem like wiping the spoon off with his shirt

to like spoon. This is like a big kid also to feed him with it it's like the the spoon yeah uh i hope it's like how do you serve it to him like you don't want him to take a lick i certainly hope kid is my lick i certainly hope that they all were able to eat hot dogs caramel corn and ice cream that everybody there in that ballpark. And if not, that's that's that's crappy. That sucks. Although I don't know. Who knows? There's like we see them on the bleachers like scorching down food and like the rest of them are

just like not eating. Yeah, I don't love this visual, but perhaps like Mr. Softy isn't set up at like Nicaragua Little League Field 7. Wow. We need to get Mr. Softee isn't set up at like Nicaragua Little League Field 7. Wow. We need to get Mr. Softee out as a reward on a future season of Survivor. Mr. Softee.

Could you imagine, want to know what you're playing for? Yeah. And then you just hear, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. And like the car just like comes around and we're like, Oh my God, it's Mr. Softy! That would be incredible. That would be so good. Mr. Softy.

Yeah. All right. So, nice reward. And meanwhile, back at camp, Baylor and Natalie, Natalie's going to grab her like, Okay, now we're going to look for the idol. Yeah. Did we just become best friends yes yes yeah so they get they find the idol and so we see two different camp uh two

different plans going on i forgot that this clue existed where did this pop up this was okay they do a very extensive previously on it's day 24 and no idols have been play and they give us like they do the reset on where all the idols are and then there's a third idol that Baylor found the clue for over on exile island with Natalie but they never dug it up yeah and was that on the show it was on the show yes I don't I remember it was the final episode before the merge where julie is going to get sent to go to um and i think that natalie takes us volunteers to go to like i think that reed wants to send julie to exile island and natalie volunteers to go in her spot so natalie has the clue baylor had the clue and Natalie went, it was in Baylor's pod.

That's right. Yeah. We're going to dig up. We're going to dig up the thing. So, uh, is that my memory is working these days? Not great.

It's okay. We got a sieve. Yeah. So Natalie, uh, and she has the idol. She's going to work with Baylor on it. And,

uh, they want to get rid of Reed Natalie is very locked in on Reed meanwhile Reed he's got a plan uh and he is going to Keith and to Wes and telling them and Wes gets into Exile Island so Wes isn't there but he goes to Keith he says hey listen to me okay here's what we're gonna do that they want to the some of them they think you have an idol and they're trying they want to split like it's like okay it's all your fault reed um yeah but they want to split the idol on you and west but me and alec we're gonna find out and then we're gonna vote with you trust me as the camera zooms in on keith nail and goes deeper

into his mind palace and you just hear Mr. Sandman bring me yes exactly he's just in Mr. Softy Land he's like I don't know what he's saying but he seems to feel pretty good about whatever that is and boy how do I know how to do any of that thing yeah it's just such a mismatch

it's very very very good we neglected to mention how like the look on Wes's face when he got sent to Exile Island such a mismatch. It's very, very, very good. We neglected to mention how the look on Wes's face when he got sent to Exile Island was just incredible. John says, you're not going to like it. Wes, you're going to go. Wes is like, aw.

Aw. Really? Aw. Aw. You looked really upset about it. We do not get a segment of Wes at Exile Island. Might have been hilarious to check in with Wes. Did I? Let me, I'll scan my parade interview with Wes Nail in lieu of, in Daniel Liu.

Interestingly, like, Josh, how many times in Survivor history does a contestant like go to exile island in their boot episode we do not follow them to exile island we do not like check in with wes on how he's doing where he's at in the journey wes is going to get a lot of screen time a lot of screen time in this episode it's probably rare in the history of the show how many times has somebody got sent to exile island we do not even check in with them on exile island uh josh wiggler of 2014 had this exactly right i have to say uh the headlines sometimes the headlines are not good right eastbound and surround and drown i i think it's a clunker this one i like survivors west nail i'm done with chicken wings. That was the full quote. Survivors West Nail, I'm done with chicken wings.

And then my lead is perhaps not the best I've ever written. In the game of Survivor, as in life, sometimes you eat the chicken wings. And sometimes the chicken wings eat you. That's profound. I feel like it is, like it's one of those things that feels profound but means absolutely nothing i don't think the chicken wings eat anybody damn if they do yeah all right let's talk about this reward challenge uh i'm sorry immunity challenge an all-timer uh well this was just like a hit after hit after hit and i think you could

reasonably put this on like if if you were gonna like write up like the top 50 or like top 100 immunity challenges of survivor this would cleanly make the list cleanly is it top 10 if you did 50 i think it cleanly makes the list for me top 10 is very very hard because you have to put Hand on a Heart Idol on there. You have to put Tom versus Ian on there. You know what? This has a lot of competition from this same exact challenge

in David versus Goliath when Christian ends up winning this challenge. With so much respect to Christian, who I adore, and I love that moment. I think it's so, so good.

I would take this one. We'd have to watch it back-to-back. Yes. Because you have... Christian is great in that challenge, but it doesn't have all the other great moments from the other players. That's the thing. This is an ensemble. Were people tempted off with food during that one? I can't recall.

I don't remember. People are quite memorably removed from the playing field due to food here we also get um some of uh our most uh quotable quotes of the season here in this immunity challenge this is like beat for beat zero wasted moments this is a okay this is an elite challenge all right so the challenge if you're listening you don't remember uh it is okay you are standing on a thing hands behind your head and you hold on for dear life how long can you stand there for okay so jeff can't stand the truth very early on comes out with a covered item first covered item comes out

to tempt the players. Wes eyes the covered item. He's been on XL Island. Maybe that's why he's a little extra hungry. And so he eyes the covered item. Has a good question. Let me see if I can hamburger a donut burger. Is that a hamburger or a donut

burger? See? Which is it? Could be either. This is such a great challenge and that like no one even remembers that this is like this is like uh it blew my skirt up right like that no one even thinks about it because he's a meat collector no one remembers uh is that a hamburger or a donut burger because so many other things happen here but a donut burger coming to mind immediately is so funny that a hamburger or donut burger jeff is like oh my god uh are you are you clairvoyant how did you know donut burger yeah wow donut burger he got him you ever do a

donut burger would you do a donut burger i uh have not would not yeah i think i think i'd get i think i would have to be on survivor to eat a donut burger i'd get real sick i'm gonna get sick thinking about it yeah it hurts my heart to think about like am i going to the electric chair what is the occasion that i'm gonna eat a donut burger Not like this would not be my final meal of choice, but like, if you put like three items in front of me, you're like, you could have one of these things. And it's like, uh, if like a donut burger is in there, it's probably a contender because it's like, okay, something sweet, something savory. Sure. Yeah. Uh, but like, man, hard like that is hard on the heart. I think that the scenario like the realistic scenario where i would uh eat a donut burger is that i'm at like some sort of like city field tasting and it's like i take

a bite out of a donut burger like it's like on a toothpick like a donut burger okay yeah let me try it i mean hors d'oeuvre hors d'oeuvre okay let me let me have like uh let me try the donut burger it's like a Duncan Munchkin cut in half yes like a little bit of burger on there yeah I mean the world I'm eating two donuts I don't even know what this is

yeah donut burger donut burger okay can you play that one more time yeah let me see if I can hamburger a donut burger which is it who's doing the side okay all right so then next covered item comes no no no no same one this is the same okay all right it's like some it's like some candy okay so we've got like gummy worms and like some candy. We've got gummy worms and gummy candy

and then Snickers. We've got the trolley crawlies. John Misch, even though he says he's showing off early on, he's not long for this world. He steps down. One of the great things about this challenge is that Keith Nail is just

beside himself. I think he also steps down for nothing. I think Keith Nail steps down for nothing. think he also steps down for nothing. I think Keith Neal gets right. Keith Neal steps down for nothing. Keith Neal steps down for nothing. While, while John, John Misch,

a mid twenties, uh, athlete, uh, stepped down, not just for a plate of candy, but for a plate of candy that was, uh,

uh, featuring a candy bar, uh, a quarter of the way eaten by Jeff Probst. Jeff ate it? He eats a bite. He eats a bite. He, in a single bite, clears a whole gummy worm,

and then he takes like a big clunk out of the candy bar. And we saw Jeff like eating the peanut butter that the contestants ate, but this is the inverse of that. And John steps down, and Jeff says to him like, sorry I took a bite. Sorry I took a bite of your candy. John Misch, he loves it. He's loving the candy.

He stepped down. Jeff said, okay, you step down for a little bit of sugar. That's what he said at the end of the first episode of Heroes vs. Villains when he was watching at home. He was so upset. Oh, sugar! But Keith is so indignant.

Anybody else that's stepping down out of the challenge for food, he can't believe it. And it's great. And as you mentioned, as you referenced, that he's like, I'm 53. How old are you? He says, I'm 25. Okay. 26. Okay. And then we get the iconic Keith now. Roger that. Roger that. Yeah. Roger that from Keith nail is like a Missy saying, uh, bless her heart. Yes. Yes. A hundred percent. Roger that. It's very passive aggressive. F you, mother effer.

Roger that. Okay. Got it. Got it. Got it. Understood. Yeah. Okay.

Oh, God. All right. So Missy is struggling. Missy can't do it anymore. Missy is going to step down. And then as Missy steps down, Missy also, I think, steps down for nothing. She steps down and then I don't know. Is she trying to troll here?

Yes. Missy, I don't know who Missy is trying to get at, but she's walking. I know who she's not trying to get at. Yeah. Okay. So she walks past the crew and there's this exchange. I'm out.

Missy is out of the challenge. Feels so good down here on the sand. Mom, shut your mouth, homie G. I'm not talking to you. Well, I heard it. Smarty poop. Simmer down. Simmer down.

Why is she being like Oh my It feels so good On the sand My feet On this sand Shut your mouth Homie G Yeah

Yep Yes Here it is The iconic Shut your mouth Homie G I'm not talking to you, smarty poo. My closed captioning claims Missy said,

I'm not talking to you, smarty poop. Smarty poo? Can we hear that one more time? I think it's smarty poo, but the closed captioning said poop. Let's hear it. Okay, here we go. Here's Missy. Missy steps down.

I'm out. Missy is out of the challenge. Feels so good down here on the sand. Mom, shut your mouth, homie G. I'm not talking to you. Well, I heard it. Smarty poop. Huh.

We're down. Huh. I'm not talking to you, smarty poo. That sounds like that rhymes. I can't imagine. I'm not talking to you, smarty poo that sounds like that that rhymes i can't imagine i'm not talking to you smarty poop but like it feels like there could be a very quiet p at the end of that poo uh it does feel like there could be just the just like the faintest p at the end of that poo uh shut your

mouth homie p yeah i can hear it i can hear it Now I feel like I'm being like Berenstain Bears, that I'm like Mandela affected on this. Shut your mouth, homie G. I'm not talking to you, smarty poop. Call many people homie G? Is that just like reserved for Missy? I feel like this has the energy of a well-worn bit, right? Like this has the energy of just like on Battlestar Galactica.

All of this has happened before. All of this will happen again. This does not feel like the first time Baylor has angrily called her mother homie G. With her mother de-escalating the situation by saying, I'm not talking to you, smarty poop. All right. Well, great, great. Unbelievable. All right. Jeff comes out with another item and this time it's wings and Wes. No cookies first. It's just not Wes. No cookies first. Oh, sorry. Yeah.

It was just not, not eventful. Okay. Cookie milk and cookies. Cookies are eventful just to track Wes's journey through this challenge. Uh, because, uh,

Jeff comes out, he's got the covered plate. Wes immediately says, can we share whatever's under there? Like, are we allowed to share? And, and Jeff says,

funny, you should mention, he lifts it just enough for two people. Jacqueline and Baylor drop instantly for the cookies. Did you happen to do the survivor math of how many cookies do Baylor and Jacqueline get?

Do they get two each? Well, there's five cookies. Oh, 2.5. Wow. Two and a half cookies And two and a It was right there It was foreshadowing

Foreshadowing It was really good It was real good Alright So alright Here's the wings And Wes Makes a beeline

For The chicken wings I've never seen Anyone on Survivor Run harder or faster Towards anything Would you say This is barbecue?

We didn't get the sauce. It looks sickly sweet, these wings. Are you a wing fan? Do you like wings? We like, yeah. Yes. How do you like your wings in terms of the sauce? Really not hot.

I might take a mild buffalo, buffalo but barbecue you can't really go underneath mild uh buffalo what's that you can't really go there's no there's no that's as that's as low as the limbo stick goes as mild yeah yeah that's i don't like a little kick not too much uh not super spicy uh barbecue is a big hit here um but how how wet are we making these wings when it's you no not super wet i don't think so um you but you know what really is one of my favorites is a thai chili of course thai chili is a delicious wing sweet and spicy i am down for almost any flavor of wing. I think a wing is like a really great vessel for a lot of different kinds of

flavors. What I do not like, what I don't appreciate, is an over-sauced wing. I think it's already going to be a messy affair. Now it's just like overly messy. Now it's all about the sauce. These were messy.

These are really messy wings. These, to me, looked kind of gross. Well, also unclear if West was provided with any napkins or if he chose... Let's be clear. He's about as dirty as Sue was this week. So another way in which... Was he contouring with the barbecue sauce You think Yeah

He came up looking like Apocalypse Now Barbecue sauce Truly truly the horror The horror Unbelievable He's on his way to killing Colonel Kurtz And in the midst of all this He tells Jeff

About how He's really loving the chicken. Damn. I ate 58 chicken nuggets in five minutes and won the eating contest once. What, what? Okay. What, what? All right. And Jeff is amazing throughout all this.

This is some of Jeff's best work. Okay. So I ate 58 nuggets in the chicken eating contest once. Yep. And then Jeff goes in for some clarification. Follow-up. He wants follow-up. You ate how many what's in one what?

58 chicken nuggets in five minutes. And you won the eating nugget competition? Is that an annual event? I've never heard of it. You can bash that up, man. Best of the business. Just unparalleled. Unparalleled.

The presence, the instinct to stay so present in that moment and ask the questions that we all needed to know yeah i ate 58 nuggets in the eaten nugget competition jeff uh that annual he says you ate the the what in the what now yeah 58 nuggets in five minutes eaten nuggets competition where do they have that? I don't know. It's not an annual event, it seems like. He's like, I don't know. Yeah.

So in 2024, it looks like Major League Eating held the Wendy's Chicken Nugget Eating Championship. How's a Wendy's Chicken Nugget? It's fine. They have the spicy. That's really, I think, their claim to fame. No, I don't mind the spicy chicken nugget i prefer a mcdonald's i think especially when like they first come up uh take that any

day of the week over the wendy's nugs but um you know my kids uh they do like the wendy's nugs all right so uh we do have a new world record uh this year 10 years later yeah uh no no full results this was in central icelip july 26 2024 uh so it's eight minutes uh sponsored by wendy's okay okay should i guess yeah i'm trying to see was this like at the long island duck stadium uh the fairfield properties ballpark Fairfield Properties Ballpark. Okay. That was the first ever Wendy's Chicken Nugget. We got to sponsor West Nail to get out there because I think that he's got that dog in him.

This is a no-brainer. This is at the Long Island Ducks Stadium, Josh. You could easily get out here to cover it. I would be honored. $5,000 prize. Yeah. We would make our money back instantly. Yeah. So we're going to back West nail and we're going to put him up to get in there. Okay. And so, um, so the first ever one was on Friday, July 26th, 2024. Okay. So we've got another probably like July 2025 we're looking at. Yes.

Okay, great. You're ready to, and maybe this was like prior to a Long Island Ducks game. Whether you're ready to take on the crispy competition or want to visit the ballpark as a spectator, you're in for an exciting evening full of nugs and sizzling summer fun.

Certainly. Okay. Yep. So first prize was $5,000. Second prize was $2,500. Okay. And then third place was $1,250. Fourth place was $750. Fifth place, still $500. Okay.

Like survivor pricing. We're still going to cover Wes's ticket. Yes. Okay. 100%. All right. So, but I don't know if they really got like the best in the business out there

because the world record for was set for eight minutes of Nuggets 220. Eight minutes 220. Yeah. Wes was able to do 50, 58 and five, 58 and five. So figure like he would have got to like in the 70s. We got some training to do. We got some training to do. All right.

Second place was James Webb, 213. Third place was 211, Jeffrey Epser. But then it really falls off. Jeffrey who? Jeffrey Esper. Okay. Definitely thought it was another E name. Okay.

My God. Then fourth place was 166. Fifth place was 131. Sixth place is 97. Seventh place is 85. And eighth place was only 59. So Wes is a top 10 nugget eater in this competition, which is great news for us.

Easily. Great news for us. With proper training, I think that Wes could take this. Yeah. What do we have to do to get this started? We'll do this offline. We'll get this going. Look, I think this Wes could take this. Yeah. What do we have to do to get this started? We'll do this offline. We'll get this going.

Look, I think this is very doable. The Wendy's Chicken Nugget Eating Championship. I mean, if it's going to be again in Islip in July of 2025, how are we not there? Look at this belt. Yeah. Whoa, look at that bad boy. It has Wendy on it.

Oh, it's just like a thin black belt. Oh, no, you're looking at the championship belt. Oh, I was looking at this guy yeah look whoa look at that bad boy has wendy on it oh it's it's just like a thin black belt oh no you're looking at the championship belt oh i was looking at this guy's belt yeah look at the belt holding up his pants just like tacky's in a blue shirt kind of looks like jeff probes i don't know who that is i don't know if that's uh some relative of dave thomas or what he's certainly dressed like him he's giving dave thomas he's giving dave thomas but yeah okay we'll see so uh 58 nuggets believe it or not um incredible can't wait can't wait how many can you do how many nuggets not a lot right now uh not a not a lot right now in my heyday i i think uh i think i could do a good amount i think i could do i do think i could do a lot of damage in five minutes i do i do and in eight

minutes i think i could do a lot of damage if it sounds what was it was like the 10th place person did 59 in eight minutes no 10th place was like in the 30s oh wow yeah so i'm i'm making top 10 of this competition i do think even that place was 32 what was a woman julie goldberg i can i can get i can get top 10 i can get top 10 i don't know how deep i can go but i could still today get top 10 and i think if this had been like even five years ago i think i could have gone real deep i do but i'm close to over the hill now. Yeah. I'm getting, I'm getting over the hill. Okay. Over from the, from the, from the Hunapu beach down to Huyopa.

I'm almost over the hill. All right. Wow. Jeff, just looking, I ended up going down a rabbit hole of the major league eating Twitter X.com account. And so that they had some sort of a pizza eating contest. Guess who won the mayhem in Maniak at the Benny's pizza? Jeff Esper.

I know. Jeff Esper is killing it. Oh my God. Esper Island. Wow. Oh no. Release the Esper report. Yeah.

Jeff Esper. Jeffrey Esper out here. Oh, no. Release the Esper report. Yeah, Jeff Esper. Jeffrey Esper out here. Josh, he's killing it on the pizza eating trail also. Benny's Pizza. Let me give you my personal 58 nuggets in five minutes. Home of the Virginia Slice, Benny's Pizza, not a paid sponsor. My 58 nuggets in five minutes. You ready?

This is what it is. An entire slice of like New York style pizza. So like thick and chewy. An entire slice of New York style pizza in my mouth in five seconds. I was bet by a guy. He would buy my beer for the rest of the night if I could do it. I did it without any issue, with no issue. I think he told me, like, you've got, like,

you've got, like, 30 seconds to finish that whole slice. I was like, bet. All right. This is from earlier this month. Rise and grind, Major League Eating Nation. Today is the day of hot cake eating glory. Norm's Restaurant's hot cake. 11 a.m.

Vegas time. Jeff Esper is going to be there. No kidding. No way. All right. So we... Oh, and it's Geoff. We're going with the G-E-O. Jeff Esper needs to work on his social meds. He's got

how many followers? 183 followers on X. Maybe he'll do better on blue sky. Get some blue cheese, blue sky cheese on those wings. I like that we're scouting out all of America right now. North, south, east, west. West. All right.

There's another iconic moment. Now, Keith, his feet are turning purple. Purple. He ends up stepping down. Violet, you're turning violet, Violet. Yeah, his feet are swelling. Yeah. Not great.

That's like what my feet look like in a gout attack. This is not good what's going on to Keith. All right. So showdown now natalie versus reed okay reed does some keith nail like spitting yes yeah um so then you know in this showdown natalie tries to match spit for spit yeah that was unfortunate this is loogie just like very probes dribbles down out of probes like his podcast on fire here uh that was unfortunate banger after banger no no skips it's just like oh man she's just like spat on herself she's luging on herself and she's still gonna be up there for like another hour and

a half like that yep all right so the time continues it. And we have to while away the hours somehow. So it's not Christian on the cross, which by the way, earlier, Alec is like, this is another underrated moment from this challenge. Alec's like, Jesus was up here for three days. I can do it.

Yeah. I think that's factually incorrect. He's like, Alec, Alex is, yeah. If Jesus could live up here for that long, I could do it too. I got bad news for you about what

happened. And he falls down. He doesn't do it. Alec Christie, you're no Jesus Christ. That's my God. That's my son of God. That's God's kid. He wasn't up there for three days. I think that's what

the records show. He's God's kid. But he wasn't up there for three days. I think that's what the records show. So he's gone. But then we have to, so it's not Christian on the cross, but Wes gets to play the Christian role here as he's clearly like just trying to, he's got the opportunity. He's hopped up on the wing sauce, okay?

He's hopped up on wing sauce. He also had two cold beers. Oh, okay. You know he chugged one immediately. Instantly. He's drunk before he eats the first wing, I think. He's eating two cold beers. Okay. Two cold beers and a whole plate, a mountain of chicken wings.

All right. And so he asked this question for Jeff. What about the episode of Two and a Half Men when you were naked cooking pancakes or something? Cooking bacon? Jeff gently goes, actually bacon. Very proud, very proud.

Jeff Rupps is like, don't get it twisted. Not pancakes. And was he cooking bacon? No. He's great. That was fun. That's awesome, dude.

I love that show it was very like chris farley show like remember that time when you were on two and a half man and you cooked the bacon that was awesome that was awesome so josh well chris Farley would have been great as West Nail. He would have. Yeah. Okay. So I went back to try to find the, to watch the episode of Jeff Probst on Two and a Half Men. Yes. I was unable to procure it. I don't know if Two and a Half Men is on a streaming platform. Wow.

It was not on Paramount Plus. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. I did watch Jeff Probst do an interview about it. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So I could tell you the episode that it happens in.

Okay. So, and again, this is a little bit, maybe a little awkward. Okay. We're deep in it now at this point. Whereas Lost in the Sauce

is West. Jeff Probst appears in season 11, episode seven of Two and a Half Men entitled Some Kind of Lesbian Zombie is the name of the episode okay uh it is in it passed the charlie sheen era it is in the ashton kutcher okay okay uh alan and

walden hook up with a pair of theme park princesses until Lindsay's jealousy of Alan's new flame ruins everything. I'm failing to see what that has to do with some kind of zombie lesbian. I don't know that there are women in their underwear, according to the IMDB stills that I'm seeing. Is that why Jeff is naked? Unclear. Yeah. What is Jeff Brooks doing in this one? I don't know.

So from what I understand, I think it's sort of like just like a gag of like they go and like knock at like somebody's door and not expecting him. He answers, holding the bacon. And then that's like this. That's it. I imagine maybe that there was some woman that they were dating and then they go and they answer the door and go in to look for her.

I'll take a rain check. I'll come back. Do you think what Jeff tells Wes? Men, men, men, men, Wes? Yeah, that was fun. Men, men, men, men,

men, men. Do you think what Jeff tells Wes that was fun? He means it. I think Jeff had a pretty good, I mean, so on YouTube, I watched like a five minute interview of Jeff,

like on like some kind of like access Hollywood type show. And he was like talking about it. And he claims that they sort of like called him like last minute and were like hey you want to be on two and a half man he's like yeah definitely and then they said oh by the way you're naked and he talked about that he was wearing sort of like uh a very tiny uh he's like that uh what they and what i had uh what they to to wear It's very tiny The underwear Yeah, very important Don't get it twisted Don't get it twisted I mean, that could hurt

Don't get it twisted, for sure Yeah, and so he says he is wearing underwear And they were really ribbing him Like, Jeff, they're going to call this Bacon Bits from here on out You know that, right? But he was having fun with it. He had a good time.

I was derelict in my duties as a member, at this moment in time, 10 years ago, really, really, really young in my career as a survivor reporter. So this is my first season doing exit press is san juan del sor as like a weekly thing so i didn't ask wes about the two and a half men moment it appears however i just and i hadn't thought about while we were talking about the nuggets before and i'm so sorry to bring us back there uh but i do have some information yeah um

i asked wes uh before we dig into your game i need to know more about this chicken nugget eating competition you referenced on the show wes says it was a chick-fil-a eating nuggets contest oh i was chick-fil-a-ing i put them away in five minutes and won that nugget eating contest. It was about 58 nuggets, I think. That's what he says. Yeah. So really no further clarity other than it was Chick-fil-A. Yeah.

So I don't know if Chick-fil-A is still doing eating nugget contests. Not sure. So this episode is available for purchase on YouTube. The episode, some kind of lesbian zombie, original air date, uh, November 14th,

2013. So this is the, just past the 11 year. It had been one year since that episode had aired. Let's watch it and recap it as a holiday special on the other side of San Juan del Sur. It will be the first episode of two and a Half Men I've ever seen. Are we going to jump into the Ashton Kutcher era? I mean, I'm not watching anything other than what I have to watch.

Okay. All right. So great, great moment. Ultimately, Natalie, she's fading. She's like, Jeff, all right, I'll step down here. Take my order. I like, I'd like, uh, pizza, pizza, wings, some wings, some wings, cookie and an, and a glass of ice water. Yeah. That's all she asks for four things. Jeffrey throws in a beer for free. He throws in the beer for free

Yeah Yeah Okay Has anyone ever like You know In a Again In an episode

Where we're talking about Did Jeff get a bad deal Jeff Jeff has to like Take the shot The shots in the dark Sorry The shots in the dark

He takes them And gives everybody rice and really you know the word on the street is like okay well they just ended up neutralizing a bummer twist for them and now they eat for it did Jeff do poorly on that exchange

does Jeff do poorly on this exchange I mean I don't really know what Jeff is going for is Jeff just trying to end the challenge as soon as possible like I don't really know what Jeff is going for. Is Jeff just trying to end the challenge as soon as possible? Like, I don't really know what his angle is. We ate, so I don't think that he ended the challenge

in a negative way. I don't think he had to keep Reed for another episode, so I think they won. We all won. We all won. Alright, back at camp. Oh, we're not even going to talk about Reed's split. Oh, then Reed does the split. Reed does like a very, like,

Reed is hilarious in this challenge. Like this moment where then Natalie, like, Jeff brings it all out. And he's like, just because it's here doesn't mean you have to take it. And she looks over at Reed and Reed, who like looks briefly like he's struggling, then just like winks at her.

You can hear like the sound effect almost. Yeah, it's great. And now he's like, yeah, like yeah no i'm taking this and they both crumble to the ground after doing the challenge they can't walk and jeff's like natalie has gotten all this food she can taste it she just can't get to it you can't get to it reed also is like that he can't walk but he takes this opportunity to go into the full split and we get unbelievable one of the great ever like jeff putting the necklace on somebody moments of that reed in full split jeff puts the necklace around him he says jeff it's so good it's great it's amazing this is an elite episode of san juan del sur yeah back at camp though we are trying to figure out what we're going to do. Alec and Reed, that they want to let everybody know in the big majority that they are down to split the votes on Keith and Wes.

John not buying it. No. He doesn't trust Reed. He barely knows Drew. Drew was the one who didn't know Reed was on their team. So John has known that Reed is on our team. And in knowing that Reed was on our team, John, I don't think, has trusted Reed for a good little bit.

Yeah. So they're going to get ready to go to uh tribal council alec is gonna like no man we're good we're good we're solid i'm in i'm in okay all right he understands the assignment to his credit out christy he knows he knows like what the deal is here just like play ball go with the flow say yes uh and like he's already been hyped up by reed and so missy like looks at john's like see they're in it's good i trust reed now we're thinking my tribe mate from the game uh so she trusts him okay and john's like all right and we go to tribal fairly quickly i feel like yeah we don't really spend a lot of time at the beach. And we go to tribal council.

Because we've all spent so much time at that immunity challenge. Yeah. And it's a great tribal council because it's sort of like not quite a live tribal council where people are getting up out of their seats. But this is as close as we get to that at this point in Survivor history. And so Jeff is talking about the idols. Why haven't we seen any idols yet to this point in survivor history and so jeff is is talking about uh the idols why haven't we seen any idols yet to this point stay it's day 26 it's been a whole new era season we haven't seen one idol come up yet what's up with that and he's like look uh we're everybody's talking about it

people must feel good uh and he says this idols are everywhere idols are everywhere i say stick to the plan and everybody's like why why would you say that and the thing that precedes this right is like reed is a trained broadway theater actor and he's up there with this whole crew. All of the things that he's saying are consistent with what he has told Missy and John about how he's going to vote with them.

But that means that he is putting up a facade. He has to put up a front so that everyone thinks that he's going to vote for one of keith or west whatever the arrangement was i don't know was keith was keith read in on the fact that like now this is this is going to be acting we're acting don't be scared of what i say it's acting but like keith seems to be genuine like he's hearing what reed is saying and he doesn't

like it and so this is why he's trying to convince reed in this moment like what are you doing reed and in reality yeah he doesn't have a reed on reed yeah he's got a josh on reed and so things are spinning out and we ultimately get nat says to John, like, dude, play your idol, play your idol, play your idol. It's like,

don't, if you don't want to, but then I won't get to vote you out later. So she like smells it that like, Oh no, it's your call, but reads against us. Reed is not with us. Reed is no longer the one on our team.

Reed the entire time also looks gutted by what Keith has said. And now everyone's like, oh, these rats. These dirty rats. And they know. And Reed keeps trying to check. I'm like, what are we doing? Are we still going the way that we did? He's like, yeah, Reed, do whatever you want.

Go do it. And so, yeah. So John plays his idol first. Yep. still going the way that we did it's like yeah redo it or you want go do it and so yeah so John plays his idol first yep and John shot first John shot first okay so John plays his idol and then it's between Keith to decide to play

it for Keith or play it for Wes ultimately the way that this is going to work out is whoever they play the idol on is going to stay the other person's going to go home like this is going to work out is whoever they play the idol on is going to stay. The other person's going to go home. Like this is sort of like a little bit of like a, a squid game marbles moment for Keith and Wes of like, who's going to, who's going to stay. Yeah. Turns out both of them, both of them. Oh, sorry. I thought you were saying John and Keith. Yeah, well, it feels like just by giving Keith the idol,

they're agreeing that Wes is going to go home. In that moment, doesn't that feel like, all right, and Wes just gives up. He's like, no, dad, go for it. You get it. It's your idol. Yeah. Wes is like, I got more wings.

This was the right call because Keith comes pretty close to winning. Yeah, absolutely. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. Like even I was thinking earlier about what you were saying about like, it's surprising that we don't start the episode with Natalie's perspective, but I think like heading into the finale of this season,

like there's like two major tracks, right? It's like Natalie or Keith. So we're like, we're, we're doing a decent job of setting that up. Yeah. And then ultimately we get the votes. Interestingly, it's just a, a two zero vote.

Uh, the John votes do not count. The Keith votes do not count. And then the last two votes end up being, uh, for Wes. Yeah. He's a good boy.

Wesley. He is a good boy. He hasn't been to jail yet. He hasn't. Uh, when I spoke with Wes, I asked him if he regretted hopping off for the

plate of wings. He said, I had a one in nine shot at a million dollars. I remember this phone call with Wes. He was really downtrodden. Yeah. I had a one in nine shot at a million dollars, and I stepped off for 25 damn wings. I'll regret it for the rest of now.

Wes, you're good. We're going to rehab it, dude. We're bringing you out to Long Island. We're going to, we're going to the spicy nugget eating contest. Chick-fil-A.

We're going to Wendy's and we're coming after you. We're taking our talents to Wendy's that Wes, you weren't going to win. We're coming for Jeff Esper. We're coming for his crown. Dr. Strange has looked at all the different San Juan del Sur outcomes. Like there wasn't a world where Wes was going to win.

Yeah. There wasn't even one. How does it work? Okay. Uh, let's say Keith doesn't say stick to the plan. They get John out. Are Wes,

are, are Reed Are Wes, are, are Reed, Wes, uh, Keith and Alec running this thing. Okay. And so the people that end up being left are, so it now becomes four versus four potentially from that moment forward.

Four of you. Um, Reed feels like in a much like Spider-Man could like swing to the other side again right like i think like reed would bob and weave his way to the top where's west going it's hard to imagine um you know i think the scenario where he wins is like he gets to the final three with like alec but i don't even know who the other person he could get to read Alec and read. And then people are like, we hate read. You are not my friend. We do that.

That, you know, I'm reminded of some, some children's classic literature that I read to my kid. And you remind me of the evil King. Yeah. I don't, I don't think,

I think read wins. I think read wins in that scenario. I think that not even after Missy gives that scathing final tribal council speech? Does Missy give a scathing tribal council speech to Reed is a good question. We're going to, I mean, I'm sad you won't be here because the preview for next time reminds us of

Baylor, you're a brat. Baylor is brat? Yeah. No, a brat Baylor is brat yeah no a brat difference litigate it next week if Baylor is brat or not Baylor you're a brat and I that may like that

may have been the moment that may have been a moment that he crossed the she's a mom yeah but is read so jaded in that alternate universe? But it's, again, hard to imagine where Wes was going to win this thing. I don't think so. I don't think so.

And also his partner is the mayor of Ponderosa and has had a lot of time to put bugs in ears. Yeah. Again, hard to squint and come up with a world where Wes is going to win this thing. Very difficult. All right. So that's episode 10 and so it was thanksgiving week and this was a very historic episode of the know-it-alls and again we got to jump on recording early in this one so i don't have the full notes from uh from uh danielle um and uh we uh have so i don't so i don't have everything but i can tell you from my own my own memory your recollection okay of what happened okay let me let me show you this okay let me go back let's take you back to uh 10 10 it was 10 years ago okay on november 26th 2014 on a night just like this

on a night just like this okay let me i'm gonna i'm gonna why is everyone oh okay uh let me bring up for you here on uh on this page yep here we go are you ready for this? Okay. Hang out on air and look who's hanging out. Okay. Yes, that's right. Happy Thanksgiving, everybody. The know-it-alls are live and look, we're here. Steven Fishback is with us for a Thanksgiving get together. Yeah. Rob, I am thankful to be here. I'm thankful for your hospitality. It's great to see you. Well, thank you so much, Stephen. Yes, that's right.

Let me give this guy a happy thing. Oh, yeah. Thank you. Good. He braved Thanksgiving, pre-Thanksgiving night. Yeah. Rush hour traffic. Yeah. He's slumming it.

He came to the valley. It's true. Yeah. He came to the valley. From the west side, which is lovely. At rush hour on the day before Thanksgiving. All right. So Stephen Fishback came to my home for the first time ever. And the only time in Know It All's history besides the live show that Stephen Fishback got together with me in person in my home, in my house, In my house with my family and my kid

to do a Know It Alls episode. Menchie behavior. This is great. That's great to see Steven in the house. Yes, Steven was in the house. And then after this, you're not going to believe what happened next. What happened next?

I went out to dinner with Steven. No, you didn't. Yes. I got sushi., you didn't. Yes. I went out, I got sushi. You guys rib-ran? Did you rib-ranch? No, I wasn't in Woodland Hills. I was in Sherman Oaks.

I'm sorry, I was in Tarzana. Got it. Okay. And I went out to dinner with Steven Fischbeck and Cochran. Oh, wow. Yes. And you got sushi?ush yeah night before thanksgiving uh do you remember the order i don't i don't remember what we got i don't know whatever you know i'll try i'll try whatever but

it was a very fun night very fun time like katsuya or something like that cochran isn't like slumming in it like some yeah you were at sugarfish or Katsuya or something. I don't know. It wasn't Sugarfish. But we went to like a, you know, nice place and had a nice dinner. And then the next day was Thanksgiving. And I spoke with that morning, Richard Hatch.

I spoke to him about this episode. Richard Hatch was very high on Natalie Anderson. He had the spoilers. You think so? Absolutely. I mean, a hundred percent. That would, does not sound like, does not surprise anybody.

He absolutely had the spoilers. A hundred percent. Not even a question. And he was very, extremely high. I'll ask him next week when he's my co-host here on the survivor. See what he thinks. See what he thinks about that.

Uh, so that, that I remember. And then the other thing I remember greatly about this Thanksgiving was that we had gotten, I think a frozen Turkey and my wife was fixing the, uh, the frozen Turkey.

And we took the, we took the, was it broke? Was it what? She's fixing it. Was it broke? Preparing, preparing the Thanksgiving Turkey. turkey sorry it's a

bad joke and we're we're working on this thanksgiving turkey and i'm trying to say to her like hey like babe like um babe i think like uh there's like a bag of stuff that we gotta take out of this turkey yes she's like oh you She's like, oh, you know everything. You have to micromanage everything I'm doing. I don't want to, but I don't want to get poisoned. Yeah, you don't want to eat a plastic bag. There's like a plastic bag of stuff that's in the cavity. Like, get out of here.

Stop touching. That's my bird and my kid. Like, you know everything everything and then what happened i i begrudging i said like i i can't let this go and and and then eventually i said like and then eventually i like i'm like in the frozen turkey and i like pulled the thing out like you see this oh and then you had to gloat you gloated i didn't i i didn't gloat i'm like look i just i was like i i know that there's a thing in there and so you just had to be like in this moment please like recognize that sometimes i'm right i i don't even think i was trying to like say like see see i'm just like like please stop yelling at me i i knew what i was talking about and it was like it made it worse

oh no oh no oh no yeah don't cook that with the with the with the little plastic bag if we're getting it folks if we're getting to you before yeah you're cooking you're just like check that cavity and then do a full cavity search on that search uh like Like if Richard Hatch was going to be on this season. Yes, that's right. And then to bring it full circle that I avoided. Richard Hatch is not going to be on the podcast next week, by the way. I avoided that bag going on fire, unlike Teenie. There you go. Could you have won if you had taken the plastic bag, if you'd let the plastic bag burn?

I don't know what you would have won. Do you guys do any kind of like competition around Thanksgiving? No competitive sports of any kind. Could you have won a turkey nugget eating competition? Turkey nugget. Not a lot of turkey nuggets. Not really a lot out there. All right.

There you go. Josh, what a ride this was today. We did justice to a great survivor episode. Brother justice. Sister great Survivor episode. Brother, justice. Sister. Yeah. Yeah, we did.

I would love to see them on a Blood vs. Water. We got to get another Blood vs. Water. That's the thing. This season is great, but a humongous reason why is the Blood vs. Water element. It's just like it next levels it to a certain degree. Love this season. Loved this episode. Loved this episode. Really great episode.

Next week. It's a two for it's a two for grace. Wow. Next week as it's the doubler, I believe. Yeah. Two part episode. I mean, they did that a lot on Thanksgiving in future seasons. Yeah. But they do a two part Thanksgiving in future seasons. Yeah.

But they do a two-part episode. I think that maybe it's... Yes, that's right. Happy Thanksgiving. I ended up clicking on the YouTube video again. I think it's maybe the Alec Boot episode is a little sleepy. I think that maybe that's what they did there. Reed and Alec, yeah. I don't know how we'll cover it.

I think the Reed episode is exciting with john and jacqueline's fight you know i i'll watch the episodes i don't know we'll do beat by beat on on a twofer here we may do some some spark notes on on a twofer especially if it's sleepy we'll give the highlight reel i think is the plan. All right. I'll stick to it. Sounds good. Super fun. And thanks everybody for being here with us to check out this walk down memory lane of 10 years back in the past. Josh, what's going up for you? What's coming up for me right now is I also have some Thanksgiving plans that I have to get to.

I will not be able to search the cavity even if I wanted to. There will be able, very capable and able chefs in the kitchen including my wife. So that's what's immediate. Was that more Borat

or Missy? Hard to say. I attempted to Missy but I think Borat just owns it in a way that you cannot help but hear Borat or Missy? Hard to say. I attempted to Missy, but I think Borat just owns it in a way that you cannot help but hear Borat. That's my kid. Get in backseat. Let me drive. Borat and Missy maybe have a little more in common

than you think. Yeah. Interrogate that further. Plenty of stuff happening on the scripted side here of RHAP. We know scripted TV. We know scriptedTV.com. We had a great weekend program

this past weekend. Antonio and I occasionally cover The Sopranos. We have a segment that we do every couple of months called The Slowpranos, where we are slowly going through all of The Sopranos. We are through nine episodes of The Sopranos across two podcasts across two or three months. It's been a minute since our last one. We had a great conversation.

If it sounds like a fun time to you to hear me and Antonio Mazzaro talking about one of the best shows of all time, The Sopranos, you will not be disappointed. Quite a good one. So I recommend checking that out and everything else we got going on over at We Know Scripted TV. And other than that, I'm just skeeting up a storm over on Blue Sky rob at round howard on the blue sky uh last last time out you tried to skeet on the pod and it didn't quite work out the way you wanted it yeah they added too many people that day i think yeah yeah it was the the servers were hot the servers were hot servers needed to cool down just uh just ach. Rob, I loved talking about this episode so much. If there was ever any question of like,

why are we doing this? 10 years of San Juan del Sur each and every week. If it led us to the deep dive that we did into this immunity challenge, it was all worth it. Every last moment, every last bit, all worth it. All worth it for the 58 Nuggets and the Eating Nuggets

competition. All right. Can't wait till we're out there at Long Island Duck Stadium coming up next summer. Take care, everybody. Have a good one. Bye.