RHAP: We Know Survivor - Survivor San Juan Del Sur Ep 13 | 10 Year Anniversary
Episode Date: December 11, 2024Rob Cesternino and Josh Wigler are back to dissect episode thirteen of Survivor: San Juan del Sur, marking its 10-year anniversary....
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It was 10 years ago on a night just like this
when we watched Survivor San Juan del Sur episode 13,
and it sounded like this.
I've never had a spa day or spa food.
Turned out not too bad.
Hey, that looks like a piece of bacon.
Spa food's not so bad.
Heck no.
Spa food, not so bad.
And neither is this guy, Josh Wiggler.
Oh my God.
That's my bony rib cage.
Wow.
Just tickling my sides here.
This might be the best Keith Nail episode.
Gosh.
I posted today on your favorite social media platform,
the Royal U, Blue Sky.
Yes.
I skeeted today a picture of Keith Nail
at the San Juan del Sur spa with his face in that little spot.
It's a great shot. One of the great shots
in Survivor history. I said San
Juan Del Soar top five season
of Survivor. Don't at
me. Wow. Loving it.
Loving it. Yeah.
Bada bada bow. Big
week. Big week. Big week
for Keith Nail
in this season. Keith Nail.
Yep. A lot going on.
And a big week in the strategy of the season
as we get
John Misch, blindsided,
blindside Butterbeens.
The Michelin Man, out the window.
Yeah.
Zero spurs.
First off, let me just say that, Josh,
to you and to Brandon
Donlan, who filled in in my stead last week.
Great job by you both.
I was listening to that podcast, getting caught up on what I missed.
We didn't weigh in on, I guess there's a thing that people think we're doppelgangers, Brandon Donlan and I.
Have you heard this?
No.
People say we're like vocal doppelgangers.
Vocal doppelgangers.
Vocal doppelgangers. Like one person talking the whole time.
I don't think so.
Okay.
But I,
you know,
I,
I know you both so well.
So well.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it's easier,
easier to identify.
Yeah.
I've had that with podcasts I've listened to with like,
it's two guys and it's like,
who's like,
who's who?
Or like two women.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know,
it's hard to tell.
Schubert
reads.
Thought that was two Joshes.
No. Just a couple of Joshes
joshing around.
Okay.
We are coming in hot because as
of last night we got together on Club
Condo. Some folks were saying hey where's
the Club condo
well we couldn't post it on youtube because that's uh we were was a lot of uh music on the field
like uh playing fast and loose with the power song parodies in the wand off yeah the youtube
doesn't love a song parody i think no i don, I don't think so. They, much like the pitchers at that baseball game
in Survivor Nicaragua, deliver strikes.
That's it.
Good.
So you can check out Club Condo.
The podcast version is up in our We Know Survivor feed.
And then also you can watch watch club condo and uh watch
our reaction to the wand off for free but you go to rob's website.com slash patron the video is up
there and we had some great reviews coming in for the wand have a good time fun time on the wand off
yes yeah uh even though you were just kind of like body vibing because like mentally and emotionally
and spiritually you weren't there yeah the fun part was really before the podcast i got to go through all the
wand offs with my kid that he's also a musician yeah prince eric yep yeah so my son dominic and i
uh this uh he is just a little bit older than this season. Uh, we,
has he thought about recording a wand off? So I, I said to him,
but it was probably too early. And, uh, I said, Dominic,
do you want to record a wand off for, uh, this for, for the wand off?
And he had an idea, but it was not gonna, not gonna come together.
And, um, it was, going to come together. Was it a good idea?
It was decent enough.
His wand off was going to be, and again, it's not a song that I really,
it's a song by Bruno Mars and Rosé.
He was going to parody the song Apt. I don't know if it's short for apartment or what.
Do you know this?
Do you know this song?
It could be APT, like an acronym
for something.
And the song goes
hot talent.
Kissy face, kissy face.
He wanted to say dirty face.
Dirty face. Yeah. Kissy face. Kissy face. He wanted to say dirty face. Dirty face.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
But he didn't want to do an Eminem.
He would have.
He would have.
But that would take too long.
Okay.
All right.
Listen, we need,
just like we need San Juan Del Surrogates,
we need Amazing Maisie Surrogates.
Oh, yeah.
So get Dominic on the beat here.
If I had thought of it earlier enough,
putting Dominic on coming up with a wand off for the season and giving them a
project,
I think would have been a good idea,
but I gotta tell you the,
the pace,
the cadence of one wand off per season.
Doesn't that feel so good?
Yeah,
that was great.
That's great.
I can't believe we did this every week.
Yeah.
I literally,
literally cannot believe that we did it. it's such a production nightmare and i'm not even involved in that yes yes uh you know it's uh it's involved it's involved it's involved there's a lot
there's a lot okay a lot all right so sam wandell sir episode 13 coming off of the uh two hour episode yes and do you have any thoughts on those
uh two hours that you mished well you know the the first hour from what i recall from the real time
uh the the first hour is like where uh that's that's the exciting one uh where john and jacqueline
are going through it and then the second hour I feel like is a little sleepier.
The second hour, I think could be,
if like you were going to summarize it in an image,
I think would be an image of Alec Christie on the jury with his mouth
hanging open.
Yeah.
Which happens in this episode.
Correct.
Yeah.
And so,
yeah,
I feel like that that one,
I didn't feel like I missed too much,
but I did was enjoying the sound clips of Reed calling Baylor a brat. Yeah, you're a brat.
My kid, my kid, you can't call her a brat.
Yeah, I did also enjoy your commentary on Jeff jeff uh of season 29 and then jeff of season 47
of being the difference between uh jeff the actor and then jeff the theater actor in survivor 47
i think he's playing shakespeare in the park i would do it like this he's playing for the balcony
you know like he's trying to project to the very back of that
auditorium uh so like yeah i think that it makes sense to me in the sense of like you hear what
probst has to say about survivor even in like the last like 10 years i think like it has shifted in
this direction of like we're not we're making this show for the players. You know, we make this show for the
people who put their bodies on the line, get out to the Island, do the stuff. So it would make sense
that he would want to really perform for them. Yep. Um, now let me ask you a question though,
is, is this Jeff Probst or is this all of us that I had been doing some research for the beloved topical events podcast, News AF.
And there was an article that I saw that was talking about-
The topical events are typically-
No, you know what?
I'm not going to continue it.
Okay.
So sorry.
So sorry.
Yeah, there was a think piece that said that, hey, for everybody, it's airport time.
that was said that, hey, for everybody, it's airport time. That people in an airport, you want to eat a Subway sandwich at 8 o'clock in the morning?
Do it.
You want to have an Irish car bomb at 11 a.m.?
Go for it.
You want to walk around in your pajamas in the middle of the day?
Go for it.
Is this only Jeff or is it all of us?
Well, I think that there's there's something to be said for like.
And so, like, is this being conveyed as a good thing, I guess, is my first question.
I don't know.
It's a good thing.
Yeah, you know what?
Whatever.
It's, you know, it's airport season.
Like, times are hard. Just eat that footlong.
Yeah, that's fine.
But I think a counterpoint to it is like, oh, God, we're in airport season.
We're uncivilized barbarians who are unwashed and unwell and are eating footlongs in the morning.
So I don't know. I don't know if that's good or bad.
I think you just get away with doing a lot more of whatever you want in 2024.
And I think you're an exception to this because I think that you are a man no minute,
no second with Rob Sestranino is wasted.
How about that?
Like, I feel like you ring every single droplet of the day out.
You do not leave the day dry.
That is one of your
superpowers, my friend. So I imagine
you don't have
much of an airport persona.
I would guess you're one of those people
that works at the airport.
I try to, but I also
then get sucked into
watching TikToks.
Getting raucous.
I think we ate a pizza and had a beer i'm not a big airport
drinker certainly not at this stage of my life yeah yeah that was pre-reno and couldn't didn't
even make that flight actually yeah and not because i was drinking but anyway that was bad
airport behavior all right let to talk about the history.
It rhymes.
And oops, a split vote.
Somebody voted the wrong way on a split vote at Tribal Council.
Oops. Oh, no.
Yeah, I think this is a great Italian vote.
Pretty amazing.
Pretty good.
Was that Natalie's Operation Italy last week?
Or was this the fulfillment of Operation Italy?
I think that you could make the argument for certain that Natalie's Operation Italy required an extended period of time to build the capital to take out John Misch.
And that part of her Operation Italy was weathering chicken farming.
Operation Italy coming into this week
was that she, on the split vote,
she changes her vote from Keith to Alec
after eating Italian food.
I mean, I feel like that's the split.
Like, John and Jacqueline, I don't believe,
are in on the split vote here.
No, no, no, no, no.
It's an Operation Italy against the people
that she's eating the chicken farm with.
Yes.
But it extends into this week.
Is that a reverse Operation Italy?
Yeah, yeah.
I think that might be Project Italy, Rob.
I think that that could be.
Yeah.
A little bit of a godfather where she's at dinner
with John and Jacqueline.
She's going to like, go to the bathroom.
There's a behind the toilet.
There's a gun.
Operation Yelati.
Did I get it?
If I'm trying to reverse it.
Italy.
Italy.
Yelati.
Yelati.
Yeah.
Operation Yelati.
So, all right.
I got there, but I've and brain is new things are my ears
you know in the real time i remember doing like the know-it-alls that night after this i was like
so what who cares like a big deal oh she voted out like uh she kept keith to alec not nothing
berger yeah i mean uh you and you and uh i think you and Fish were really down on this,
if I remember the great San Juan Del Sur gets notes from last week
and that Steven didn't even award a fishy to anyone.
No fishy.
Wow.
We might have the times to change.
We give them away willy nilly like candy.
Now they give these things away for anything. Mm's give away two row i like uh i like the cut of his jib give him a fishy
yeah sure but natalie comes back she's like oh my god oh i blew it oh i'm so stupid Oh, I'm a fool. I'm an idiot. Yeah, she really is.
She's nyucking it up.
And Baylor is loving it.
Baylor's like, oh, Natalie.
She's so good. Yeah, that's a fun part of this relationship between Baylor and Natalie, where Natalie is like a cool, older cousin.
Yes.
To Baylor.
You want to try this?
What is that?
Cigarettes. Wow.
Oh, my God.
Do you see what she does?
Oh, I don't know.
She gets away with it?
No, you should try it.
It's cool.
She talks to the grownups?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Shh, Baylor, this is our secret.
Don't tell anybody.
Do you want to ride to school?
Wait, but you would have your driver's license.
Yeah, who cares? I've got my permit.
Get in the car. Oh, I don't know.
Yeah. And then Natalie is also like, okay.
And then she is going to ultimately get her in huge trouble in one week's time.
Eventually, yeah.
Where she could abuse that trust.
She's got Keith in the hip pocket also.
Like, Keith, just do what I tell you to do.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. Keith is thrilled to just go along with it yeah i don't know if we've talked about this where it's like
separately she's sort of like okay she's like she hip pockets baylor she hip pockets keith
eventually she's gonna like uh hip pocket jacqueline after john goes home. Yeah. Well, this, I mean, like, Natalie Anderson is, like, a famously excellent, I think, like, she used to, I don't know if she still does, but posts, like, tons of workout videos on Instagram and stuff for, like, doing, like, deadlifts and stuff.
Sure.
It makes sense that she'd be so good at that kind of work.
She's, like, deadlifting people.
Like, she's just bringing them.
Are you saying they're dead weight?
I mean, no. maybe a little strategically.
Yes.
All right.
All right.
Let's go to our reward.
And this is a reward, a doomed reward.
Yeah.
Now, I think we find out in the finale that a kid. A kid designed this reward.
Oh, right. I've never had a five-day or well too early wow yeah i've never had one of those either so uh i think it was kind
of like a make-a-wish type thing where like a child designed this reward and maybe it didn't
get through all of the testing because uhy's going to suffer an injury.
We'll get to that in a minute.
But let's talk about then what the prize is going to be for this challenge.
Here's what you're playing for today.
You'll then enjoy a nice massage and then you'll eat spa food.
And you might be wondering, what is spa food?
I am wondering.
What is spa food? Seared I am wondering. Yeah, what is spa food?
Seared steak.
Cookies browns.
Wow.
Does he say any more?
No, that's it.
Can we hear what he said about the sanctuary where good things happened this past week?
I just want to measure the two.
I do.
You know what?
That's a good point.
I don't have that queued up
here. I was just playing that
off of Paramount last night. I didn't have the
clip pulled up. But
I thought that Brandon made an astute
point about how the rewards
now are not
as good and Jeff has to sell them harder.
Are
they not as good?
Yes. I don't know. It just it's like at the sanctuary you go to the sanctuary you're not going to like you go you're not going
to a spa and I think that it's something I don't know I I feel like now aren't you going to like
it's like the sanctuary is like the anti-exile island.
Like the sanctuary, the exile island is a place where bad things happen.
Sanctuary is a place where good things happen.
And so now it's like a fixture in Survivor as a physical thing that you can count on being out there on the island.
It's like happy exile island uh so i feel like now it's like all these
people who come out of the 40s and like go to these parties and become friends with each other
post uh post season like oh man what did you think of the sanctuary and like everyone can bond over
a shared experience yeah i don't know uh rewards stink in the new era. Let's get real, Josh.
Fine,
Erica.
That's fine.
Whatever you both think.
I don't really care.
I was really thinking about this when I was watching this episode
because this,
the,
the scene where they go on the reward,
it's such a great character scene
for Keith.
And you think about like
so many of the great character moments
in Survivor history,
I do think come on the rewards.
Like,
think about Keith in Second Chances,
driving around the tuk-tuk. Uh, and you get these survivors like getting to enjoy themselves,
like doing these rewards. And I feel like that you don't really get that so much, uh, with like
the, in the go to the sanctuary sort of like, okay, here, here's some food. And then boom,
we're right back into the game i feel like the survivors like enjoying themselves
doing non-survivor activities like on reward like i feel like that does bring out like okay
in survivor force and they played cornhole yeah but other than that we really haven't seen the
survivors like turn the game off and like be doing some different like reward type things
where they go someplace different and they're like taking a shower and they're like uh out of the survivor game for a little bit i think there's so many
times where like character moments come out of that isn't it interesting i feel like you and i
are like uh we just took opposite positions like i feel like in most uh like all things being equally
but i don't care what about the scenery i don't i don't mind whatever just keep it going and i'd
be like stop and spell the roses they're at the spa uh i think we freaky friday did we freaky friday i just felt
like that um we teeny tuesday we teeny tuesday you know i i love the game uh i i love all that
game but i feel like the stuff that when we think back to the stuff that has stuck with us and i
find this with the podcast too of like okay
we talk about the strategy we talk about the game what are we doing but i feel like the things that
i remember from like interviews i've done with people you know five years ten years uh
it's it's the like the like funny moments and like uh great stories that we hear about people
and a lot of times that comes like out of the context of the game.
Like,
I think you couldn't have one without the other,
but I think that like,
there are things about,
uh,
these moments that the characters have that are sort of like outside the
game that I think sometimes really stick with you.
Yeah,
I agree.
I totally agree.
I have no notes.
I agree with all of it.
Yeah.
And I just think that the rewards are kind of
like samey same in the new era and I know
we're trying to make it harder and try to
you know no food
and you know like
you get the Applebee's moment still
and the auctions are really fun
now so like I think that
they do still have good rewards
but I mean
I think that I hope it have good rewards. But I mean, I think that...
I hope it's not controversial to say that
the new era is very samey-samey.
And I think by design, right?
I think it's like an elaborate setup
that they are cycling different sets of people
through the basically same shaped laid out maze.
Like they change a few walls.
There's cheese in that corner this time.
But by and large, it's the same one that like many rats have traveled previously.
Whereas before I think like the setups across Survivor Seasons were relatively different.
Some people think that's a bug.
Some people think it's a bug some people think it's a feature
uh but i think like the same wherever you land the samey samey i think it's like to some extent
i think like an irrefutable part of where survivor but i feel like the just to go through the like
san juan del sur just to track like the rewards that the people have gone on um you know we've
gone on we had the uh survivor taco bar we they went on a we had the Survivor Taco Bar.
They went on a boat.
They went to like a ranch and went horseback riding.
They got like a bed delivered to the camp and ate Italian food in the bed.
They went to a spa.
It's just like that all of the rewards
were kind of like unique experiences
as opposed to, for the most part,
you know, the rewards are sort of like slight variations of similar experiences.
Sure.
Schubert,
Schubert back again,
Schubert says they're obviously using a lot more.
They went to the baseball game.
Also they delivered.
That was the other reward.
Totally different.
They're obviously using a lot more cost saving measures.
I'm just not sure where that money is going.
Schubert,
that money is going to Matlock.
They, they are siphoning the money out of Survivor
to funnel into Matlock?
It's like, cut that budget.
Otherwise, we can't do this show.
And so we need that money for Kathy Bates.
So like, yeah, they're cutting costs
so that Survivor can continue.
But I don't know if the rewards need to be
like super expensive.
Like, I just think that like having, and again,
I think it's not so much the money built the sanctuary set and then they go
to the cafeteria and get whatever they had that day.
I,
again,
I don't think it's necessarily that,
that,
oh,
they're cutting the budget.
I think it's because of the,
the,
the time of 26 days.
And a lot of times it's like a one day,
like the reward is in like part of the day and then to get back and get to tribal council
so I think that it's just
in the 39 days I think you have a little bit more time
to let it breathe but
I hear that I hear all that
heard that
Roger that
Missy has hurt her ankle
very badly
but at first she's like
rub some dirt on it.
No,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
we're good.
We're good.
We're good.
Yeah.
You know,
that kind of thing where you're like,
uh,
uh,
you know,
uh,
it's like when,
when Tom Sizemore gets shot,
saving private Ryan's spoiler alert,
he goes,
ah,
I just got the wind knocked out of me.
I'm fine.
And like two minutes later,
he's just like,
it's just dead.
It's like,
yeah,
the ankle is fine.
It's just a little twist.
Forrest Gump is like something bit me. Yeah. Something bit me. And then it's like, ah, you fine it's just a little twist forrest gump is like something bit
me yeah something bit me and then it's like oh you got shot in the buttocks shot in the buttock
yeah yeah yeah so missy's like just shot in the dark shot in the buttock i don't think so
so very different thing yeah missy has uh you know suffered this injury um missy is going to receive medical
attention later on in the episode but i think that this is one of the like a few times in
survivor history like somebody gets like a pretty bad injury and it's just like like
gutting it out we're close enough to the end that it's like i'm i'm not going. I'm staying. That's my ankle.
This is my game.
It's my choice.
What is it, like day 33?
Yeah, where are we at this point?
Yeah, day 33.
Yeah, day 33.
I can make it six more days.
Certainly.
What have I been saying all season long?
Missy's a badass.
Missy's basically a badass.
Missy for second chances.
I'm not giving up.
All right.
No, I basically completely give it up.
All right.
Well, Missy and John and keith win the reward uh even with missy's uh
bum ankle um but yeah bum uh john you know it's really natalie started this she took julie's spot
going to exile island and there's been this uh, you know, Jeff talks so much about the community in this, uh, survivor 47, and it's really baked into this
season of people who are giving up their spots on rewards for other people to curry favor.
And here's a great moment here where John is going to, uh, relinquish his spot. Listen to this.
going to relinquish his spot.
Listen to this.
A spa day for her is going to completely rejuvenate her.
She's going to feel as young as she looks.
John, you're annoying right now.
Okay.
First of all, this was like John Misch,
a little brown nosing Missy.
A little bit.
And where did that get you? the point where yeah even even jack
was like oh my god it's so annoying yeah then doesn't jeff say something like uh does he say
something do you think you deserve it is what he says immediately after jack says oh god he's so
annoying and i it took me a minute to realize what jeff was saying was like do you think you
deserve to go on the spa reward yeah i think jeff was trying to like provoke the yeah i thought at
first i thought at first he was like you think you deserve it like yeah like john is right and
annoying you yeah and john's gonna go on the reward jacklyn uh is that is that what's going
on here yeah did i say i was gonna go oh oh well what a guy He's gonna give up his spot to Jacqueline?
Wow
Did I say I was gonna go?
I'm giving this to Baylor
Yeah
Wait a minute, John, you're giving up
your part of the reward?
I'm not into manicures
and massages
and things like that
A lot of toxic masculinity around the spa Yeah, I think so I'm not into manicures and massages and things like that.
Yeah.
A lot of toxic masculinity around the spa in this episode.
I think so.
I think so.
I think that we need to like break the barriers.
De-stigmatize the spa.
I agree.
Go to the spa with your bros. Those are my bros at my spa.
Relax, guys. Yeah. Those are my bros At my spa Relax Guy
Yeah
Like is it gay to go to a spa
Like
What are we talking about here
You know
It's ridiculous
Yeah I mean Keith to eat a wrap
At the spa he's like
Well hell I didn't know I might lose my wrap at the spa, he's like, well, hell, I didn't know.
I might lose my job for this.
If the guys in the firehouse saw me here.
Oh, boy.
Forget about it.
Yeah.
But yeah, when he's like, I'm giving up my spot.
Like, I can't believe Jacqueline's head didn't explode.
I can't believe there wasn't like a major second fight for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah. Because like they spend the whole like next day together just alone.
Then Natalie goes to exile Island.
She volunteers.
He's like,
I'm,
I'm giving Jacqueline a spa day.
Just us.
Did we see any of that?
Not really.
Not really.
I think it was,
I think it was fine.
Again,
this is coming on the heels of the last,
uh,
last week's episode where they're really
uh you know a little rocky with john and jacklyn that's like a crazy thing then that he like didn't
give it to jacklyn to like really they needed alone time they needed to talk what did they talk
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Let's go to the spa reward.
Okay.
And so.
Yeah, you and I, we are secure enough in our masculinity to go to the spa.
We'd go to the spa together, I bet.
I certainly would not mind going on the spa reward.
In my personal life that I have uh been to exactly one spa
and it was because of survivor yeah i went to uh let me go back to story time uh so uh picture it 1985. Picture it. A mulleted Rob. Argentina 2003.
Oh, yeah, sure.
Me, Tina Wesson, and Rudy
and Richard Hatch
are hanging out in a
cottage in the southern
tip of Argentina
and
Richard Hatch demands
to be put into
this nice resort.
And he goes, and we never see him again.
And he goes there, and he lives there.
And then, as a treat for us, for us piss ants,
who were then, you know, roughing it in Patagonia
with just the jackets on our back in the cottage,
they took us to go to the, we had a spa day.
We went to the spa.
And the one and only time I had a massage in my life
was at the resort that Richard Hatch met his future husband
at the spa.
Yeah.
I didn't love it.
It was fine.
You didn't love it.
You didn't love it. And was fine. You didn't love it. You didn't love it.
And so like,
do you think,
don't you think maybe,
uh,
you're like a really different person now than you were when you were,
you were,
but a boy.
I was back during the all-stars.
You were hardly a man.
We,
I think we did have dinner there.
I think the dinner was good.
Yeah.
Uh,
I guess we,
um,
I probably did have steak.
No,
I'm just saying, I think like you could get a massage
now and i think like rob today actually might get into them i think you could go i think you could
go deep into massage you think so yeah i don't know uh maybe if i had like some kind of like
sports injury uh yeah pt is fun i mean you don't want to go because that means you're hurt. But, you know, PT's not bad. Yeah. So that's the one time I went to a spa.
But, all right.
Keith Nail is talking about he didn't know about the spa.
What is it?
I don't know what it is.
I see some goobers on the end.
Okay.
Some what?
He picks up the plate of food.
He sees some goobers on the end.
Goobers.
On the end.
I see some goobers on the end on the end uh i see some goobers on the end yeah now
did they serve chocolate covered peanuts it seems like that's probably what that was or i think that
they're like gesturing at like a like a mixed nut plate oh the trail mix got people in trouble
earlier this season well you know you know, but this time
Missy's going to eat
some trail mix
and not quit the game.
So trail mix redemption.
All right.
So try the gobers.
Oh, nuts.
Oh, yeah.
Wow.
Slow down now, Bailey.
Don't fill up on that rabbit food.
Don't be like Wes.
He's going to die
when he sees that you're at the spa.
Yeah, it's a girl thing,
but as long as there's food here,
it's a guy thing.
Yep.
As long as there's food here,
it's a guy thing.
If the food wasn't here...
And also,
if Keith was so concerned, why didn't
he give up his reward?
Well,
Jeff made a comment about that
Keith really needed a bath after 33 days in the game.
And Keith himself talked about how he needed to get the funk off.
Yeah.
So he could clunify himself.
I'm going to come out like George.
Hey,
here comes George Clooney.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Keith nail would have been a better Batman than George Clooney for sure.
Yeah. And look, by the end of this, Yeah, Keith Nail would have been a better Batman than George Clooney for sure. Even close.
And look, by the end of this, they made a believer out of Keith with the spa.
I've never had a spa day or spa food.
Turned out not too bad.
Hey, that looks like a piece of bacon.
Spa food's not so bad.
Heck no.
That looks like a piece of bacon and Baylor and Missy are uh speaking at the same time the same
way they do the and we'll just show up yeah yeah um when they speak uh in unison and we'll just
show up spa food's not that bad not that bad um yeah yeah it's it's fine right they're little wraps
okay whatever you know it's yeah the shot of keith nail getting the massage through the
thing it's just like the like iconic comedy it's got to be on the list like if you're doing like
the hundred best shots on survivor like that makes the list right wow i think yeah that would be a great like
instagram post do we have a social media department could someone get on that please
it just would take a long time to go through and all yeah that's not your job
yeah is the juice worth the squeeze to have somebody go through yeah i think so you know what it should be here the okay let's get like uh a post on blue sky
yep okay right now well i mean here how about this i'll do it i'll i'll do it okay okay is it
gonna post this time i will see okay it's been unlucky every time you skied on Stan Wandel's shirt.
Let me see.
Can I blue sky live on the podcast?
Let me see.
First of all, let me find Josh Wigler.
Yeah, that's me.
Do you have just one photo that you've used for all of social media?
Yeah, for a brief moment on X,
I changed my profile to a glasses list josh wiggler but i
think it scares people when they don't see me with glasses so i've uh changed it all right so let's
see that's what i posted okay all right so tell me if i'm doing this right so i'm gonna take this
i'm gonna i'm gonna quote the post okay yes yep you're already in okay let's see what he's gonna
write okay do you write as black
or you have a good sense i think i okay uh sorry i don't mean to put pressure on is uh this is my
least favorite thing to do is like anyone watching me right and i'm like watching you type so i just
hope that i'm not i don't know if iconic is the right word uh okay yeah you already did this
the most uh hilarious uh survivor do a hashtag hashtag survivor camera shot driver camera shot The most hilarious survivor.
Do a hashtag.
Hashtag survivor.
Camera shot.
Camera shot.
Of all time.
Of all time.
Wow.
Can you top it?
Can you top it?
Yes.
Here he goes.
Can you top it?
No, no, don't post yet.
Can you top it?
Let's see it.
You got to give them an extra call to action. Let's see. Let's see it or let's ske see it. You got to give them an extra call to action.
Let's see.
Let's see it or let's skeet it.
Oh.
Oh.
I can't yes or no that flavor.
That flavor is for you.
You get to make that call or not.
Yeah, there you go.
Let's try it.
Let's try it.
Let's try it.
Okay.
Let's see it. Let's see it. No, I don't like it with skeet. I don't like it. Let's see it. Let's see try it let's see it
no I don't like it with skeet
let's see it
let's see it
let's skeet it there feels boomer
hit that post it
drop it
oh hell
blue sky's not that bad
okay
blue sky's for girls I boost guy is for girls.
I thought it was for girls.
If only the guys back on Twitter
could see me.
I mean, if there's retweets,
then it's a guy thing.
Yeah, there's alt text on there.
It's a guy thing now.
All right.
So, back at camp,
John and Jacqueline, they're doing their thing. Meanwhile, Natalie's on exile. Natalie has talked about this in her. I remember this from her interview with me after the season. She talked about how exile day i think it was really the first time like since natalie or that
uh nadia got uh voted out that she really had time to kind of like process that she is like
the first time she'd been alone yeah that that makes sense to me i mean like the only other
times you're alone are like uh like confessionals and you're not really alone or like the party and
like that doesn't really count you're focused on another thing yeah um so was it like it was like uh emotionally difficult yeah i think it was just very uh
but you know it's sort of like you know you're in game mode game mode game mode it's like you
kind of have time to like process uh you know yeah i guess it's tough she tried so hard to put
this show up uh only to find out here on Exile Island that she is, after all, a person. Wow.
Yeah. Alright.
We go to the immunity challenge, and
we spend a lot of time working on Missy's ankle
here. We bring in medical,
we're gonna investigate what's going on here,
can Missy stay in the game? Yeah.
Do you have the sound clip?
I didn't pull this, no. Once upon a time,
this was a great sound clip. Which one?
Which one was it one where she's
got the guy
touching her ankle
and she goes right there
right there
yep right there
yeah
I'm trying to think if I have it on the old soundboard I don't think I have that
yeah
so yeah they're
checking her out and she's not going to leave build soundbar i don't think i have that yeah yeah so yeah they're they're you know checking
her out and uh she's not gonna leave no she's not i'm not gonna quit she says i won't quit
yep and so she's not gonna play in the challenge and the challenge is gonna come down to uh
appropriately natalie versus john do you think she could have done this challenge?
Who, Missy?
Yeah. No. There's no way.
No, I don't think so.
Did it require both feet?
I think, well, I think it was
just like standing there and to balance, but
I just don't think that she could have like on
her, like in her walking
boot.
She's not walking around.
What was the point?
Missy wasn't going to win this challenge if she was healthy.
If you want to try,
I feel like she could have still given it a shot.
I think they were probably a little bit more worried about
what does the dismount look like?
The dismount is where they get you.
She could have stood there, but then when she
falls, I don't know how it looked.
Imagine she tried to do the challenge that Baylor won with her oh my god yeah no yeah
para dismount plus all right so uh comes down to natalie versus john natalie wins john is like
whatever who cares keith nails getting voted out natalie runs and give jeff a big old hug
does jeff like the hugs do you think uh i don't think he likes them under uh any circumstances
yeah that you know that's that's my thinking like uh i told the story of when he and i took
a picture together at tribal council once and i had like a sweaty armpit and i put my like
arm around he said he could feel it and he was i had like a sweaty armpit and i put my like arm around he said
he could feel it and he was like oh you're sweaty armpit and i don't think that he liked me all that
much after that that's where your sweaty armpit was the yeah i think that was maybe the beginning
of the end yeah all right so josh let's talk through about what goes on back at camp. Okay. Natalie's got a plan.
John, he has the idol here at the final six.
And so Natalie has an idea of,
this is like, you know,
pretty sophisticated strategy here
of potentially splitting the votes 2-2-2
on John in case he plays his idol.
Yes.
2-2-2 on John in case he plays his idol.
Yes.
Natalie is Operation Italy was a three-headed plan, right?
Like it required three individuals to like make active decisions and like actively participate like covert shenanigans,
smoke screens to the end operation.
Natalie really is just Natalie.
Yeah.
This whole thing is really just her.
Yeah.
So what's more impressive,
you know,
baby Andy,
Sam and Genevieve pulling this together or natalie pulling this
together with missy yeah the dragon had three heads in operation italy uh this is a little
bit more like they're trying to like they're playing like online poker and they're trying
to scam john and like natalie has like four laptops open yeah uh uh but they didn't have
laptops in game of thrones so I got lost in the analogy
yeah
she's like Jon Snow in the Battle of the Bastards
she's like
it's her against a bunch of
Ramsay Bolton nincompoops
that she has to figure out how to take on
okay
yeah
I've seen it
have you seen this?
yeah Natalie yeah i've seen it have you seen this yeah natalie uh she's uh she's given keith the plan
all right keith this is what you're doing stick to it um we see that uh jacqueline is a little
paranoid about what's going on but john is pretty confident yeah he's like that's fine
don't worry about it everything's all right but's the real rub, and we're not talking about the massage.
No.
Baylor and Missy.
Baylor and Natalie tell Missy the plan.
Missy's like, I'm not voting out my friend.
My guy.
I gave my word.
My word is my bond, and it's stronger than my oak uh yeah she won't do it
yeah she's got no problem voting for jacklyn this is like the like i will not let you uh i will not
yeah stab julius caesar in the back but like if you're all gonna do it like you know
but i won't do that but i won't tell him either and i'll stab his wife so uh baylor is doing some
like uh you know armchair psychology uh on mom here she is like see this is what she does she's always putting men first
work this off the tape you know like i think like let's get let's do that offline right i think like
let's work this one out off off the off the uh the hit uh tv show that you're on right now.
Can we talk this through for Baylor and Missy?
Was this a good idea?
Like, we love this.
We were happy.
We were rooting for Natalie.
We wanted Natalie to win.
Obviously, this is good for Keith.
So we like that.
It's good for Natalie.
Was this good for Baylor and Missy?
Yes, that's a great question.
Well, I think that Missy and Baylor,
as we've sort sort of like talked it through what's the circumstance where either of them win they i guess they can't win
i don't know that they can i'm trying to think of what they would need to do uh did missy and baylor
i'm trying to think of if there's anybody like i guess best case scenario for them would be to
maybe both get to the final three,
but I guess one of them needs to vote for the other one.
Yeah.
One of them has to go.
And I think Missy has the better shot of winning would be my guess.
Yeah.
But I'm not even a hundred percent sure on that.
Yeah.
So are Missy and Baylor both final three goats?
Yeah,
maybe.
I think that like,
I mean,
I think that Missy has like,
Yeah, maybe.
I think that like, I mean, I think that Missy has like,
has been very good at like bobbing and weaving and going with.
Bobby weave is this week's survivor episode.
That's right.
And like rolling with the punches a little bit here.
And rolling her ankle.
And rolling her ankle as well.
So I, I think that she's definitely like the better,
stabler player than, than Baylor at this point.
What are we getting so far, by the way, on the skis?
I see you looking.
I see you looking in your little tiny mini chamber there that I can see.
It's like a little portal that I can kind of look through right now.
Just bring it up.
I want to see.
Do we got anything good?
So Antonio Mazzaro responded.
Is that Rupert's shelter from All-Stars that got over flooded, but otherwise just looks like a grainy photo of shit?
Does he put this caption here?
This is either where they found Saddam Hussein hiding or the death pit shelter
that Rupert dug.
No,
that was AI.
AI put that together.
AI Mazzaro.
That's two Zs and one R. I think no other, no other responses. AI put that together. AI Mazzaro. That's two Zs and one R.
I think no other responses yet.
No other gets yet, but we love Antonio chiming in.
Thank you, Antonio.
We love that.
We love to see it.
Number one.
Number one in the clubhouse.
Yeah, I think we might got that already.
And if you're listening to this podcast and you want to weigh in,
you should do that.
Let's skeet it.
Yeah. Okay. skeet it. Yeah.
Okay?
Skeet it.
Yeah.
Did we think about Baylor and Missy as final three goats?
I feel like that we didn't necessarily talk about people
as like total goats at that yet at this time, right?
You would know better than me for sure.
I don't know, but I don't think...
I guess in Jacqueline's win condition
would have been get to the final three
with Baylor and Missy.
Yes, yeah.
And I think that Jacqueline could have won there.
And I think if like Missy gets to the end with...
No, yeah, I don't think so.
I think like Missy and Baylor,
whether fairly or unfairly
i think that missy clearly has been uh is going to be like painted by reed as uh like this demon
queen um i think that like the the the little rascals of alec and wes i don't think that
i don't think that they're voting for a mother figure at this, at this point in their lives.
If that's changed at all,
I have no idea,
but they don't strike me as people who would give her the credit that I
think that she might really warrant in a,
in,
in certain circumstances,
Josh and Reed are not fans.
I don't,
I don't think so.
Like,
so like,
I think that there's,
there's like,
there's no combination.
I think that either of them can win if think, that either of them can win.
If it's the two of them plus a third, it's the third who wins every time.
If it's one of them and then two others, every time it's one of the two others.
So I just don't think that they can win this season at this point in time.
So I don't know that it really matters.
Maybe they should have just stayed the course for like loyalty's sake but baylor wanted to shake shit up and ultimately
missy wants to give her kid what the kid wants yeah and yeah for john and jacklyn it seems like
they were really in the driver's seat of that they were about to like if john and jacklyn get to the
final five like it's pretty much game over. Yes.
Uh, seems that way.
Oh,
I should say that.
Okay.
So Keith's gone.
They get to the final five.
I guess Natalie could win out.
They have then basically like two shots to get rid of Natalie.
That's it.
Yeah,
that's it.
So,
um,
and one of them in the game and Natalie wins immunity next time.
Right.
I think,
uh,
or no,
Keith will, Keith will, Keith will.ith will yeah keith will so yeah i
don't know um there was i mean certainly there's a winning path for uh for for john uh and jacklyn
here i think um which is why you know they are getting taken out it's not just revenge it's
it's good gameplay for for certainly for Natalie. All right.
So we should go to tribal council.
And Keith Nail is shot out of a cannon at tribal council.
Out of a cannon.
Yeah.
And this is dangerous for Natalie because she told him like,
okay, Keith, like, don't blow it again at tribal council.
And he's chomping at the bit.
It's like he rehearsed what he was going to say the entire way
to tribal council where he's like i'm not going to do stick to the plan again i'm not going to do
stick to the plan again i'm not going to do stick to the plan again okay keys yeah i'm not going to
do stick to the plan again you know is sort of like the energy of like he's just like he cannot
help uh uh is it is it another lu Luca Brasi, uh, situation again?
Right. I think that was from an offline, uh, conversation.
Oh yeah. Certainly was.
You're calling back to our, a phone call that we had. That's a flashback to a phone call. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, so that was,
there was a very good use of that on that phone call.
Thank you. Appreciate that. And I think there's a very good use of that on that phone call. Thank you.
I appreciate that. Very, very good.
And I think there's a little bit of what Keith is doing here too.
Yeah.
Um, I was trying to bring up a good picture of the Alex Christie with his mouth open.
It's a great time for me.
Rob's got your, you got your screen share, but like everyone else can't see it.
And I can only see it in a tiny little window here.
Yeah, you can only see it.
But right now I can only get, bring up a one.
It looks like you've got like a mood board of the Christie brothers. Yeah. Um, I'm trying to bring up that his mouth is like a
gape in, uh, several of his shots in the jury, but I'm trying to find the one that was from
this episode, but I think I only see it in, uh, I did a, I did a screenshot, but it's,
I left it on the other computer. but uh two computers yep i have my i
have my my computer that i work from and then also uh so maybe best captured by mario lanza
in the funny 115 uh is the many faces of alec christie on the jury.
Alec Christie jury face is incredible.
Mario's caption there was
lost in a cream cheese fantasy.
Everything's better with cream cheese.
Very, very, very funny.
Do you agree with that? You do like cream cheese, don't you?
Cream cheese is fine on a bagel.
You're more of a cottage cheese man.
Everything's better with cottage cheese.
Yeah, right.
You know, a lot of utility in cottage cheese.
Definitely.
It's versatile.
Y'all can't handle that.
No, I think that conversation is way too hot,
certainly for Bruce Guy and maybe for this crowd, too.
Yeah.
All right.
So anything.
What's your reaction to this tribal council?
Similar to Alex Christie?
Boring, boring boring get to the vote
uh there's not really anything that I care
that much about I guess like John Mayer's like
I think about that final speech
every day I think about
it a lot is what he says
uh I think about
it a lot and
keep dreaming baby
yep cause you won't get it alright so we get our votes and it's a 2-2-2 I think about it a lot and keep dreaming, baby.
Yep.
Cause you won't get it.
All right.
So we get our votes and it's a two, two, two split.
Oh yeah.
Yup.
So, so Missy was fine to vote Jacqueline, just not John.
So it is like this, like, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna stab my friend, but you can stab my friend.
You know, I feel like she, she permits this. She just lets it happen um john didn't know this was happening uh certainly because otherwise he would have played the idol i was wondering like is there any world where missy was
like i gotta vote for your girlfriend uh but no definitely not because otherwise idols would have
been played uh so yeah so like missy just like Missy may as well have just voted for John. I mean, I know the plan
is, like, we gotta split it, but she may as
well have just voted for John. And then
when we get on the re-vote,
she stays on Jacqueline.
She votes for Jacqueline
in the re-vote. John goes home
two to one on the re-vote.
Yeah.
Yeah, we didn't really get to... She just wouldn't do it.
Yeah, we didn't ever get to see missy come around
on uh like what her reason maybe it's at the start of the next episode but i think it's just
like jacklyn's hot at the next episode sure it start off the finale the one part finale of saint
waldell sir fair enough okay sweet all right uh and so uh great move uh natalie has really set
things up let's talk a little bit about what happened in the real time.
Nat gets a fishy here.
Got it.
Natalie is going to get the fishy.
So Josh Green and Danielle both went through it.
Appreciate all of their work here.
So let me give you a little bit.
Did Danielle write a spirited defense of downtown Orlando?
Yeah, she did.
Downtown Orlando for Wiggler, just a couple things,
just to not take up too much time.
There is a sushi place that she says has an amazing happy hour every day
from 5 to 7.
And the rolls are also $5 to $7, so that works out well.
They have Orlando Magic Basketball and Solar Bears,
the minor league hockey.
They have comedy night.
At the hockey, They have comedy night. Uh,
and then you could also,
the hockey they've comedy.
No,
at, at,
at the other bar.
Got it.
Not a paid product placement.
Okay.
All right.
Um,
that's what downtown Orlando's got.
Other than the tables and the chairs and places to sit.
So Steven was rather shocked.
He had been saying that John Misch is going to win this season.
Danielle puts in here, I'm not sure if this was talked about in the real time
or this was Danielle's editorial,
that Steven is always going to be set up for failure
reading the edit when a woman wins
because they don't know how to edit women.
So that's like a double burn of Steven and Survivor.
Yeah, hard to know if that was like a self-critical fishback.
Because I do think that he could be introspective.
And, you know, maybe could have like summoned that, you know, bias from himself for sure.
There had been the bet about who was the knowingest know-it-all between Rob or Steven.
That Steven said John will outlast Missy.
Missy does outlast John.
Making Rob at this point in time.
The knowingest know-it-all.
Do you still do that?
No we don't really put that up for grabs.
I think Steven is just permanently the knowingest know-it-all.
And then we just leave it at that.
I don't like that.
I don't like that at all.
I want to bring that back.
I think we should bring back the West Nail Nugget Eating Competition.
I think Steven and I are both comfortable.
With me saying that he's the knowing is know-it-all.
I bet he is.
All right.
And you are a charitable man.
Okay.
I did say, according to Josh, that if Keith Nail wins, he would be a bottom five winner of Survivor.
Yeah.
I stand by it.
I stand by it.
Through 29 seasons?
I'm just going through a few of them in my mind.
With so much, so much, so much respect to the late, great Keith Nail.
I understand the comment.
Yeah.
I do understand the comment.
Okay.
And we...
Oh, actually. to come okay and uh we uh oh actually so according to uh uh josh that i opened the show with an
apology for natalie about being hard on her move from last week there you go you're a grown-up you
can apologize when you're wrong yeah okay and then let me see uh what else uh should we add in from uh steven was only upset
about missy not getting pulled from the game because of the bet not because of the integrity
of the game got it okay he didn't care about the integrity of the game at all he just wanted he he
could you know again he takes this very uh i know i get it i get it all right let's see uh exit interview with john i've got my interview pulled up uh
as always i'm trying to see like did past wiggler how was his headline writing
john mish engages with his shocking survivor defeat and this is on the immediate other side
of getting engaged to Jacqueline I believe
of this they were just boyfriend and girlfriend and then it just been bfgf and then they got
engaged and there were photos and they were cute and then I clicked the link uh for their engagement
photos um and uh I don't know if they've been scrubbed from the internet but the link
just dead it doesn't take you to the right interesting um yeah so john mish i
guess i asked him about his idol and he uh said that john that jacqueline would have had to have
the idol in her possession before tribal for it to be hers uh to keep it after john was gone so
uh certainly not australian survivor roles uh but i i believe that john could pass the
idol to jac Jacqueline at tribal council
before the votes are cast and she would still be able to keep it.
Yeah.
Um,
that might be,
I don't know if that's a clarification of the rules,
uh,
at that particular time,
or if John Mish did not have the full understanding of the rules.
Yeah.
Uh,
John Mish in his exit interview was really nice to everybody.
Yeah. He's a nice guy.
Yeah. And I told him you're being too nice. And he said, but I love him.
Yeah.
So he was, he's like a nice guy.
I mean, he didn't say a bad word about anybody the whole season, right?
Yeah. Not really that I can think of. If anything, like what he would say is like, I'm a feared of Jeremy, you know, like I'm scared. Uh, like that's it. You know,
I lose to Jeremy, but he wasn't right about it. Yeah. No, he was even friends with drew Christie.
Yeah. You know, he was a nice guy, John Mish, like the harshest thing I feel like he said was
like sitting across from Alec being like, I got to tell you, you don't have a chance and it's not
me being mean. It's just just like i'm just trying to be
straight with you yeah he was always uh a nice guy all through the season okay so um then i talked to
a guy coming off of uh his his season spence that spencer bledsoe was the guest okay and what
happened there yes okay um well young lad's first post kagian recap i would josh
green uh says that in the beginning of the show we announced teos for the first time oh
well yeah happy anniversary okay uh spencer talked about how he liked jeremy as a player
and he uh like kelly as a player too thought she had the potential to be a really good
player. Yeah. I like
Jeremy so much
that I'd be willing to lose against him
in a year.
Yeah.
Danielle says that Spencer
claimed that Tony hated the season
and had Jeremy winning the game. So
even he was fooled by the winner's edit.
So Tony and Jeremy would go on to have a very storied history and future.
Indeed.
We don't know what the future holds for Tony and Jeremy.
And can I tell you that I'm excited to find out?
Yeah, that's going to be exciting.
Okay.
It's going to be great.
Jacqueline was Spencer's winner pick.
Okay.
Did he have a reason or like Have a reason or anything
No
He just said that's who he was
Yeah okay
Let's see
Who do we have on feedback voicemails
Well so I think
Spencer did everything
He did it all
Yeah okay
According to Danielle Rob's mom suggested he do a podcast where he interviews
Missy's ex-husbands. I mean, that probably wouldn't be good.
You can't do that now. I would not do that now.
Yeah. I do remember this podcast.
I knew Rob was able to do that, but you know, it may be not the most.
Yeah. I do remember this podcast. I remember really like spamming the get clean, get run, get fed.
Yeah. Get clean, get rubbed, get fed.
Although I think that we, uh, misheard Jeff. I didn't have the captions on.
I think I said, get clean, get rough, get fed, uh, get clean, get rough,
get fed. Sounds right. That sounds. That sounds like what you turned it into.
Mm-hmm. Okay.
Trevor Chong just joined the chat.
Hey, Trevor.
What's up, Trevor? And Trevor says, Rob needs to interview more Survivor Xs.
The world can't handle it. I would love to do it.
Survivor Xs interviews.
Yeah, that's good. I would love to do it.
The world at large could not handle it. It would be a great podcast.
I don't know.
You don't think it would be great?
No, no, no, no, no.
You think people could handle it?
I think it's great.
No.
I think it's possible.
I think it's possible that the extended RHAP community could greenlight this assignment.
Everybody would listen.
Everybody would love it.
But then people would be like, no, I don't like this.
I don't know. I don't know. I, I don't like this. I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't think this is right.
I don't know.
This gives me the ick.
Lil?
Yes.
That's,
that's,
that's the number one critic of Rob's podcast.
Rob said that he wasn't going to talk to the exes.
Now he's,
now he's doing a podcast.
All of,
all of Missy's ex-husbands.
My husbands.
Get out of my business.
Top five exes interviews.
Top five exes interviews.
What's his face?
David Murphy's wife.
Who was that? Okay. Who was that?
That was, what, Carolina?
Carolina.
So are we bringing in two survivors
that have broken up and we're interviewing them at the same
time? Maybe. Oh, that's
interesting. Like, are we bringing in, like,
John Rocker and
Julie McGee?
That's interesting. That's interesting to me.
That's really interesting to me.
Where like either like they can work it out on the pod or like.
Like Dr. Phil.
Or they could laugh at their like shared history or they could get very dramatic.
But it would be on them for accepting the invitation.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mm hmm.
Yeah.
I think it could be good.
Okay. Erica says not. Mm hmm. Yeah. I think it could be good. OK.
Erica says not only the women
complaining men, men, men, men
complain to.
Yeah.
We love men that will complain.
Yeah.
OK.
All right.
I think there's I think there's
something here.
Look, it's not a bad idea.
Let me just see.
And then Hayden. Joe joe sure that'd be good
um oh from survivor social media danielle also flags that eliza uh was tweeting wow john sucks
missy sucks this season sucks sure yeah that all makes sense. Okay. Then...
Jeff Probst and Julie Barry.
It's interesting.
Also on some of our social media,
there was a lot of alumni complaining
that Missy got medical attention
and also some smoke
between Russell Hance and Stephen Fishback.
Russell tweeted to Stephen,
I was glad JT won. between Russell Hance and Stephen Fishback. Russell tweeted to Stephen,
I was glad JT won.
And then Stephen responded to say he was glad Natalie won.
Wow, that's really giving the Lannisters
send their regards.
And then Cochran jumped in and told CBS
to make a Russell versus Stephen season.
Wow, I can't believe Cochran hopped into that fight.
That doesn't feel like Cochran to me.
Maybe he deleted the tweet after.
Yeah, probably. Alright, there you go.
Alright, so here we are, heading into
part one of the San Juan del Sur finale
next week. It's all of it.
It's the whole finale. It's not a part one.
It's the full finale next week.
We're going to do the whole finale.
Can we talk reunion? Yeah, we'll do the reunion to know you were at the reunion,
right?
I was at the reunion.
I was not.
I went to a lot of the reunions in the thirties.
Uh,
I think that the only reunions that I went to in the twenties,
I think I went to the Philippines reunion.
I think that that was it.
And then,
uh,
I went through to like most of the ones in the thirties,
but,
uh, yeah, that this was right before I was invited to a lot of the reunion shows.
Yeah, I went to, this was my third that I attended at this point.
Yes.
Because I was at One World and Cagayan before it.
But I got out there.
I'm sure we can try to see where my fist pumps are. Cause I always tried to like do that.
So you could see me at home.
Yep.
Uh,
so I should be recognizable in the season finale of San Juan del Sur.
Oh,
you know,
um,
comparing survivor 47 back to,
uh,
survivor,
uh,
San Juan del Sur.
Um,
there was,
uh,
one thing that Josh green flagged about how,
uh, in the, uh the in the future there was some discussion over whether or not they're the three wave revote.
The question came up why everyone didn't get to revote in a three way tie.
Stephen acknowledged that the argument could be made why everyone should revote.
But you both said that the show had always done it, that people can't revote and neither of you had a problem with that
uh that did come up in survivor 47 when there was a tie uh between uh sierra and sam uh and
was it gabe i think it was dude honestly you don't. I don't care about this. All right.
I was trying to think, I feel like there was something else.
I feel like there was something important I was supposed to do today.
In the Survivor 47 parallel.
Okay, just a rack of my brain.
Did the challenge that Rachel ended up winning immunity on,
was that what Keith won immunity on last week?
Oh, man, I completely forgot there even was an immunity challenge this week.
Yeah, the balance, the balls into the paddle, the holes in the paddle.
Yeah, but that's not really the same thing, is it?
From this week?
Yeah, that was the last part of it. Is it from this week? Yeah.
That was the last part of it.
Yeah.
I don't get the little cue balls into the nipple.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Don't say that again though.
Okay.
All right.
I know you want to do anything else on your mind.
Um,
I'm already getting a little sad
that this journey is almost over
but don't cry
because it's over smile
because it happened can you
believe I'm looking at this right
13 episodes
of Survivor San Juan
Del Sur we've really spent the last
12 weeks
doing this yeah I think we started back in september
wow pretty incredible what will we do next i have some ideas but uh i have some thoughts
yeah i have some thoughts we could revisit in uh the new. We'd love to hear from our wonderful community.
Yeah.
I've got thoughts.
I got plots.
Yeah.
Schemes.
Whoa.
All sorts of ideas.
Okay.
Yep.
All right.
So Josh, what's coming up for you?
What's coming up for me is a lot, frankly, on weknowscriptedtv.com,
frankly, on WeKnowScriptedTV.com, which is the scripted wing of RHAP. We've got, of course,
every week, The Tastemakers, The Weekend Program. These are great variety shows for you to get your TV fix. But also, we are rigorously covering HBO's Dune right now.
Grace Leader and friends are covering Dune and getting their spice-y takes on the podcast.
And plenty more happening in that world down the hatch.
It's a fun time.
Star Wars, the skeleton crew.
Yep.
You said you watched that.
I did watch that.
I never really imagined what a suburban uh star wars life was like uh but uh it's interesting and um check it
out yeah um yeah uh that i think the hottest take that my kids had was that the uh elephant kid
is like millhouse oh Oh, wow. Okay.
Like Milhouse, John Kierhofer's guy?
No, Milhouse, Simpsons guy.
Yes.
Got it, got it, got it, got it.
I would be more excited if it was Kierhofer's Milhouse.
That would be my guy.
Speaking of the sanctuary where good things happen.
So lots going on.
We know scriptedtv.com.
Would love for you to hit subscribe to that feed. Tell some friends to hit subscribe to that feed. We are it's not the Aaron Rodgers documentary. It ain't. It ain't. But it does
involve games. So looking forward to a lot going on here as we wrap up our first year of We Know
Scripted TV. Okay. Otherwise, I'm skeeting. Skeeting on the sky at round Howard.
Trevor says, everything's coming up
elephant kid. Everything's coming up elephant
kid.
Then, I will
shout out Erica who contributed
to the
skeet thread of
iconic survivor shots.
Oh, yeah.
Colby's orgy?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Three tickets to Challengers, please.
Yes, that's it, baby. That's it.
Yeah. This gets rowdy.
I would, Rob, I'd be very
interested in revisiting this scene, potentially,
at some point. That's fun.
Just let me watch Treasure Island, okay?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a movie
happening here, folks. Yeah. Look, this is a bed.
We ain't eating no Italian
food in this bed, okay?
I ain't no chicken parm.
Mm-hmm.
I'm a go-a lot of things.
I ain't no chicken parm. I ain't no chicken
parm.
I ain't no Toblerone bar.
Operationally, my ass. we're candy and goobers
my ass
alright we've lost it thank you so much
take care have a good one
bye