RHAP: We Know Survivor - Survivor San Juan Del Sur Ep 6 | 10 Year Anniversary

Episode Date: October 29, 2024

It's been 10 years since Survivor San Juan Del Sur and Rob Cesternino (@RobCesternino) and Josh Wigler (@roundhoward) are back to talk about it! Rob and Josh will discuss episode 6 of San Juan Del Sur and compare it to the new era of Survivor.

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years ago, on a night just like this when the world first watched episode six of Survivor San Juan del Sur. And it sounded just like this. I'm a meat collector. Yes. We're back, baby. Maybe Josh Wiggler and I are back from a trip to Philadelphia to attend the world premiere screening of I, Stan Caggion celebrating its 10 year anniversary. Back with me, hopefully not too worse for the wear.

It's Josh Wiggler. Josh, how are you? Rob, I'm doing quite well. I can't help but notice that we didn't collect any meat steaks, cheese steaks. No, we did not collect any cheese steaks. Yes. Missed. Yes.

Opportunity. Well, so we didn't get the chance to. I dispatched our own Brandon Donlan to go out and try various cheese steaks from around Philadelphia. Is he our own? Do we own Brandon Donlan? Yes. We have acquired him. And so we. Would we have owned him if he'd made it deeper yes he i haven't spoken with him that he's been out trying different cheesesteak places

in philadelphia and so hopefully uh we have some update later on in the show on how he's doing yeah so yeah okay why pat's pat anaconda snakes pat Pat's back is not all right. Pat's on the Anaconda snakes, man. I'm not in for it. Pat's back, I hope, is all right. It's not been quite 10 years, but it's been some time. It's been a minute. All right. So we're here live on Tuesday night and a little bit later than we've been doing this

normally because of our trip to Philadelphia. Basically like 24 hours in Philadelphia. So a real quick trip back and forth. I road tripped alongside our very own, who I know we own, the great Sam Moore. And it was, I think, a 24-hour and 30-minute journey door to door for Sam and myself. So yeah, it was a quick trip. Just this morning, Rob, we had coffee together. You got on an airplane.

I drove through multiple states. You watched San Juan del Sur. At the airport. I was going to say in the air. I didn't watch it in the air, no. Would have been great. I watched it in the car. I listened to it. Yes, okay.

In the car. And you're going to tell us what that experience was like yes uh we plugged in the episode of san juan del sur into my car speakers and tested i think for me for the first time how does survivor play as a podcast now i know interesting now i know how Survivor podcasting plays as a podcast. Of course, as a veteran of the trade, I know what that's like. But what is it like to experience Survivor as a podcast? And I'm now equipped to answer that question here on this podcast. And I think there's probably going to be some better episodes than others.

And so we'll get Josh's take on that. This did have a blindfold challenge. So there was a component of like you had, you were like Reed and Baylor, just like operating only on your ears. Oh, interesting, it was a blindfold challenge because I didn't clock that on the podcast version of the episode. Yeah. Wow. Okay, so

you get some things, you miss some others. The challenges don't play so well when you're looking at Survivor as a podcast. Okay, so you get some things, you miss some others. The challenges don't play so well when you're looking at Survivor as a podcast. Okay, and so I teased, but we are going to have the world premiere, the live video premiere of I Stand Cagayan, which is a documentary film, RHAP's first original documentary that we've been working on all year long and it's all about the 10-year history and legacy and uh all of the shenanigans that happened in survivor brains versus beauty versus broad and i guess josh let me start there uh because i feel like that now we've finished

the pre-merge of survivor uh san juan del sur talking about episode number six and you know i really did feel especially coming out of uh kagian which had aired in the spring of 2014 that the the reputation of this season at this time i think is an interesting one and i feel like this is san juan del sur yes yeah i do feel like and I feel like that this is very present throughout the pre-merge that this is a season of dodos and bozos and that things are not going well. And really, all throughout this episode, Jeff is just chastising the contestants really across both tribes. You have Coyopa, which has really been the disaster tribe in terms of losing so much. They go to every single tribal council in the pre-merge

with the exception of the Drew Christie vote. So they are just hapless losers, even after the tribe swap. Then you have Hunapu, which, you know, is the victor in these challenges, but they are full of, like, a bunch of knuckleheads, like

Drew Christie and John Misch, and then, ultimately, they're constantly trying to make trades with Jeff that he says are horrible trades, and they get a full a full like dressing down here he called he tells them you guys suck yes is what he says to them I believe is a quote I don't think he actually said that but he says to them that there's never been a group of survivors that's needed as much help as this group. Yeah.

This is like when John Kimball fills in as the teacher for a class of kindergarten students, despite the fact that he, by trade, is a police officer undercover. And he tells these children, you children are soft. You lack discipline. And this is like Jeff kindergarten copying these people. He wants to whip them into shape.

And maybe, Rob. Hey, Jeff, I'm a kindergarten construction worker. You know, it may be because Jeff kindergarten construction workers, these people, if this moment doesn't occur, this ruthless trade that occurs for the rice, does it turn out to be nice for some of the people from San Juan del Sur who will go on to have some measure of great survivor success? Like, did Jeremy need a dressing down from Jeff so No. So that he could have a meteoric rise. He's a meteoric collector. No.

And so what's interesting, and maybe we talked about this, you know, the top 40 countdown was kind of a blur. 40 seasons in 40 weeks for me. But, you know, when you and I did the Evolution of Strategy. Which is not a blur. We remember this. We remember it vividly, of course, especially the 29th season that we did of the evolution of strategy. But we had not yet seen Jeremy's win in Survivor second chances. And I do wonder if like is Jeremy at all like was his I guess I guess not because Kelly Wentworth is.

I was going to say like it's's sort of like, uh, the Julie McGee, and this is really getting into next week, but Julie McGee quitting in some way, does that, does that help Jeremy's candidacy where he ends up going a little bit further into the game than he otherwise would have. But like the DNA of Julie quitting is very much here in this episode. And the trading of the rice for the tarp, I do think accelerates that to some degree.

It certainly does. Now I'm curious, I think we started talking about this, were you going to tie this to Kageyan in some way? Oh, I was just saying that it was like where Kageyan was like, oh my God, this is peak survivor. Right. was just saying that it was like where kagian was like oh my god this is peak survivor right i do think that coming into and again we have not yet what is the greatest thing

about survivor sandwinder sir is natalie's uh you know historic run really in the second half of the game that has not really started yet we get a little bit of that the start of that story here in this episode yeah but natalie has been quite under edited uh in in five episodes uh prior to this and so we have not had that amazing run yet for natalie that amazing race that amazing race and the really the story of the pre-merge has really been like the story of like uh some very bad survivor play uh one of the things that i've always loved about uh this episode in particular which is going to be uh you know uh hunapu getting chastised but ultimately winning both challenges yet again uh is that jeff is like the real like uh like the i'm very disappointed in you father.

Right? Like he's like, he's like, he's like the next, the next step is I'm calling your parents and I'm sending you all home. Like some of the parents are already here. That's right. That's right.

And so he's like threatening. Wesley's a good, a good boy. He's threatening to break up the sleepover before, like, Keith, come pick up your kid. And I love that because, like, it's not that Hunapu doesn't deserve a dressing down, but does this Hunapu deserve a dressing down? Yeah, I mean, they get in trouble for a lot of the things.

And really, you know, Reed and Jeremy and Natalie were there. But Jeremy and Natalie didn't even want to do half of the stuff. Well, what's so funny about it is that, like, you know, Reed never gets a chance to shine beyond this season. But Natalie is going to have the win for this season. She's going to be a finalist in her second appearance on this show. Jeremy is going to do quite well in his third appearance and win on his second. So like the people who drove the rice into the ground are not the ones who you might think.

Like it's not Wesley and Alec who are like the nincompoops. It's not the numskulls. The numskulls didn't do it and so it's like the smarter older siblings framed like the younger siblings who like crashed the sleepover for the problem and jeff is like looking at this whole tribe and now broad brushing wes and alec into it if i'm alec i'm like but i didn't do it yeah i didn't even do anything dad it wasn't me it was true you don't ever believe me it was him that did it like this is like very familiar territory for alec and he's like alec uh the only thing worse than what you boys did is that you're selling out your brother you know like it's like he's like there's no getting out of it but jeff gets such a good hate into Hunapu. He's like, this tribe has needed more help than any tribe.

But it's not really exactly this specific group, is it? Yeah. Some people get away with scot-free like John Mish and Missy. And so, you know. I feel like John Mish and Missy deserve to be part of this, too. Like, if they were still here, Keith is absolved of any wrongdoing, of course.

And we're also just quickly forgetting. Yeah. It is as almost as if Julie McGee has already quit, but she's here too. But like, you really would think that it would be Alec and Wes who would run up the score on this one. And it's like,

these, these, these poor, these poor, these poor children did nothing. They did nothing wrong. Yeah. All right. Well, let's talk about what's going on here anyway but that is a big that's the big i'm thrilled to be talking about all of this on the other side of the great movie screening of uh i stan kagian rob uh where they dumped out the rice uh where the rice was dumped

out and this week we're dumping the rice back in. It occurred to me at the screening last night, there was a mini Q&A after, and there were some questions about like, which season should get the I stan Kageyan treatment next? And you know what I was thinking, Rob? What? We're doing it right now.

Stan Juan del Sur is happening as we speak. Yeah, that's great. Okay. We should make that the t-shirt. You nailed it. It took us six weeks, but you nailed it. Stan Juan del Sur. Can I tell you something else about that?

I nailed it in the car on the drive back from Philadelphia this morning. And when I said it out loud, Sam Moore was like, no, no, no. He was traumatized like i was pitching another like documentary for us to immediately start producing right away i was like no no no it's the name of the podcast the name of the podcast no extra work for you no extra work for anyone it's stan wandell sword he's like oh that's a great name yeah and it is it's a great name okay all right so let's talk about a little bit of what's going on. This is really Dale. Remember in the first episode, Dale found the pog on top of the well? Yeah.

Well, he's about to go, you know, into the slammer here. So he's got some moves he needs to make with that pog. Did we talk about pogs already? I'm sure at some point. Yeah. Can we do it again? Were you pogs kid?

No, I'm too old. Pogs we do it again Were you Pogs kid No I'm too old Do we want Pogs do we want Pogs back Pogs would be a great nickname For somebody Oh yeah like a mobster Like oh that's Lenny Pogs Pogs Galeri

He's in the slammer He's in the slammer now In like a 90s set mob movie where he just got deep into pogs yeah and so dale is trying to he actually uh very graphically he says that he um losing kelly he had to watch them slaughter his daughter. Vivid. Yeah. It rhymes, but... You don't have the clip, do you? I didn't pull that clip, no.

It's just like there's such gravitas to Dale's confessional here. Maybe it was additionally pronounced for me as listening to it. Because you were listening, the words had more meaning. Yeah, it was like watching your daughter get slaughtered it was the worst thing I'd ever

seen her go through it's like wow this is like this is now it's like sounding like we're like a prestige HBO drama this is like very penguin yeah like the penguin you want to get me on one

don't start with me Rob okay so he's that basically so Dale has this kind of has some penguin penguinisms about him I think so he's sort of like a purges narrative yeah I was going to say yeah yeah I could see him

like a long cigar Meredith. That's what I was going to say. Yeah. Yeah, I could see him like the long cigar and the top hat. I could see it. That'd be a great Halloween costume. Yeah. Anyway. He has the monocle because he broke his glasses. Yes, it's true. All right. So basically, I think there's only one person

in the whole tribe that talks to Dale. I think that that's probably the part of the problem. He really burned the bridges with Missy and baylor uh pretty hard at the last vote and so uh he's going to john mish and he's saying to john mish of like i found the idol uh and so i've got the idol and if i'm still here tomorrow i'll give it to you have we talked about how the men of san juan del sur i think like you could map all of them onto dogs. Interesting. I think you could probably,

like, I'm just trying to think of like, like I think every single man, maybe we could just say that. Man Juan del Sur. But I think, I think like the man, the man Juan del Sur is like, I think that you could probably map all of them onto dogs because I think like John Misch has like this huge, like golden retriever energy, right? For sure. He just like, like,

like Dale comes up, he's like, wow, Dale, is that tennis ball for me? Like, you know, he's like, and I'll give it to you afterwards. And it's like, maybe like, you know, someone's like walking the John Misch dog being like, ah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You're not going anywhere near that ball. That ball's not for you. It's, it's a trick. I feel like some of these others like Ale Alec and Wes, they kind of speak for themselves a bit. And Dale's kind of

right now got a little bit of that Junkyard Pitbull vibe going on. Back against the wall. He's Mr. Worldwide right now. Mr. World's a part wide. So I think we could probably spend some time Shout out to my dogs in the chat. Yeah. So I think we could could probably spend some time. Shout out to my dogs in the chat.

Yeah. So I think we could spend some time on the dogs of San Juan. Yeah. All right. John Misch, though, he is hook, line, and sinker. Dale's got the idol. What is that? Yeah. I got to play with Dale.

He's got the idol. I got to play with Dale. Okay. He's very much thinking about Dale's offer. All right. But really, it's interesting. This is Dale's boot episode, but really most of the episode we focus on

what's going on with Hunapu. Yes. Much more of a Hunapu-heavy episode, even though Coyopa goes to tribal council. At Hunapu, they are expecting Jeff to come because they have very little rice. Jeremy does not think this is a good idea. He doesn't like this trade.

He says it's mind-boggling what these guys are doing. This is the moment, right? Which one? Is this these guys are so dumb? I don't know if he says that this week. Has he said it yet? No, he doesn't say, I didn't catch it if he did. I don't think he said these guys are so dumb.

He said this about them this week. We're all happy. I'm pissed. You know he just took all our stuff, yo. Why are y'all happy? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's what he says when he goes to the Halloween party,

the Adam Sandler themed party, and everyone got dressed up as Happy Gilmore. There's so many other characters. Why are you all happy? Why are you all happy? Yeah. There's our obligatory Billy Madison, Sandler Madison shout out here.

Do we have to do one every week? I didn't even know that. We used to, how it worked was we had to get one in per volume of the evolution of strategy. So we got it here for whatever. Chester's brought it, whatever the hell all this is. All right. So here comes Jeff and he comes in and he's talking about how like this is really unprecedented.

You all have been blowing it. And that's not floods of 2001. Yes. He said there's only been one other time that we have had to do this and step in. And that was all the way back in Australia. And there was extenuating circumstances there. Tina almost drowned. Tina almost got surrounded and drowned.

I don't really know if there were extenuating circumstances. I think they just ran out of rice. Like there was the camp got flooded, but Tina went and saved the rice. Yeah. It wasn't like the flood took their rice away and they had to get more rice. They ate their rice. They ate their rice.

And then the rice. their rice away and they had to get more rice they ate their rice they ate their rice and then the rice yeah the rice that they paid for with colby's flag uh was was endangered um yeah i'm not sure if they had gotten more rice at that time or not i don't remember at that point uh can i propose in the future because i know that like in the new era we're doing like the all right, here we are at that same point. Every season is the challenge. Who's stepping up? Who's coming with rice negotiation.

Yeah. You know, um, can we do like rice quest instead where like we have to like send people off on some sort of like Tina Wesson esque adventure to get the rice rather than having to give stuff up. I think we need a two-hour episode for that. Yeah, special.

We've got 90-minute episodes now. We can certainly fit in less. No, they're jam-packed. It's tight. We don't have time for more stuff. Okay? All right. So,

this is a real exciting moment. Jeff wants to know what happened here, Reed. Tell me about what's going on here. Reed, what does that say about this tribe? There were too

many cooks in the kitchen and they all wanted to use too much rice. Sounds like there were too many patrons in the kitchen. Whoa, not enough patrons if you ask me. Not enough patrons. And would you believe, I have to imagine 10 years ago while we were talking about this episode

of San Juan del Sur, not only were we making the same, oh, never too many patrons jokes, but weren't we making jokes about another thing that has just turned 10 years. Yeah, this is the amazing part of all of this. Here we go. Today is the 10-year anniversary.

This was yesterday. Today is the 10-year anniversary of Too Many Cooks airing at like 3 a.m., scaring the crap out of people who are up late and stoned watching adults swim. It's the weirdest project I've ever done. And I'm proud to be part of such an insane and iconic video. Yes. Can we play the full clip? Of too many cooks or roll real quick.

We just, too many cooks played for the very first time, 24 hours, played for the very first time 24 hours roughly before Jeff and Reed are talking about there being too many cooks. Yeah. And now

10 years later we're talking about it. Is this the time travel season? Did it happen? It takes a lot to make a stew. I think you totally undersold the stew. The lamb and the stew and cider too. I like what you said about stew.

Stew. I think that we're in the time travel season. Bring back the credit sequence for too many cooks, you cowards. Oh, God. Incredible. sequence for too many cooks you cowards oh god incredible how many people are uh engaging with this particular podcast that don't know too many cooks yeah i showed it to my kids like a year or two ago they enjoyed it i gotta imagine they loved it target demo yeah bang bullseye yeah okay all right well too many Okay all right What a time

Too many cooks A lot of tweets about the 10 year anniversary of too many cooks Really? Should we do a podcast of rewatch too many cooks 10 year anniversary? Do we put that out? I guess it's a we know scripted special right? Yeah I think so

Yes okay All right This is for the real deep cut people this whole podcast is by the way yeah all right i stand too many cook islands yeah so jeff is gonna take everything everything you won in the rewards. We're taking it all. And then you're going to be back to a machete, a pot, and Flint. It's like, hey, this is like the new era. Yeah, they basically just, they also time traveled, right? They also just got vaulted 10 years into the future.

And considering that the merge is going to be like in two days, it's like, fine. Considering that they're about to eat beef and chicken skewers. Well, that was Jeremy's point of like, we could just win a reward, y'all. Well, also- The other tribe doesn't ever win a challenge. Jeremy- We win everything.

Jeremy did the starvation strategy before this season. Is that right? I believe so. He didn't eat for weeks going into this season, so he's already hungry. That's a secret cap, so he doesn't have to worry about the food the way

the rest of these people are. But yeah, he's like, I don't know why we're doing all this. Do you think that this is a fair trade? I do feel like when Jeff you think that this is a fair trade? I do feel like when Jeff is like... Turnabout is fair trade. Well, it certainly sounds... I feel like losing any of this stuff sucks for these people. But I feel like it's just like...

It's like... Do you know that video series on Instagram of the mom who packs the lunch for her daughter every day i don't like her yogurt her breath mints her her lunchable sausage snack uh her note uh and like she's just like constantly filling it up it's like that's what jeff is doing except he's taking it out of the lunchbox yeah he's just like constantly listing things that are being removed from the camp and i feel like because of like the length of the list it sounds really particularly apocalyptic yeah um this was a good enough trade i think that you know the weather being what it uh was like i think that it was going to be uncomfortable no matter what the tarps or the hammocks and the

pillows and everything were about to be ruined they weren't gonna fish uh in this weather and so i think i think it was fine so i don't know what happens do they get more rice at the merge i don't know if we uh get an explanation he says enough rice to last you through the end of the game, but you only gave it to one tribe. So they're going to eat it all. It gets to the merge. If you guys touch Koyopa's bag, I'll kill you. Yeah. Straight out.

Julie is worried about the rain. I think it was ominous. It was a little cloudy already and overcast and things were not going to go great. and we have the super preview, right? Like we have the super preview at this point. That's telling us someone's good.

Like, are you saying you're quitting the game? And so like a full episode before it happens, we're getting once again, uh, prepped for it. And I think like, this is one of those signals of like,

certainly at this moment, I feel like maybe things softened in the new era towards, no, Jeff still really hates a quit. Hates a quit. Really doesn't like a quit. No, I think this is when he is, we'll get there next week, but I think that we could talk about the evolution

of Jeff's feelings on quitters. I think he's pretty much like uh fine uh on the quits and then i think i think when it comes to like uh like making an example in like the production of like wanting to really sell that like this is not the behavior we're seeking from uh from our survivor players don't do it yeah i don't think he really is going to dress down Julie in the next episode. I think he's going to be pretty compassionate. I think there's also a difference between how he treats men that quit

and how he treats women that quit in the history of the show. But nowadays, Spicy Jeff does not like quitters. Doesn't like a quitter. We're so back. What do you mean you're quitting? It's 20 days. You know, you're here for a week.

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And in Hero Arena today, we're going to get a big matchup. Reed versus Baylor in the blindfold put the mask together challenge. How did this go? I could hear it and how it sounded was like There was an obstacle corner. I feel like this must have

taken nine hours. How do you go and feel the puzzle and this fake decoy pieces and I don't know did they have to be used people that hadn't already done i don't know how we got on to it's reed versus baylor but anyway yada yada yada reed wins and so reed has to pick who's gonna go and take his spot and go to exile island with baylor and reed is like I'm gonna pick Julie

yeah and now Julie is already on the verge of quitting was Reed have we talked about that we've probably talked about this before it was Reed Reed was picking Julie because he wanted to break her right had to be had to be had to be you know in the in the real time

of watching it like you can see what's telegraphed that Julia's going to quit. So, like, maybe, I don't know. We'll have to consult the Stan Juan del Surrogates. Shout out to Danielle, who I met at I Stand Cagayan. If this was something that was being talked about on the podcast at the time, I can't remember.

Yeah, we'll go. I got some notes from Danielle and from Josh. It was certainly something that we were discussing in the car today. Yeah. Of like, that's what it feels like. And I think especially with like the benefit of knowing

reads like like the death to which he will descend by the end of this season. Does not care for Missy. It certainly feels like maybe he's just trying to push her off a cliff. I didn't pull the clip for this, but so when Natalie

is like, actually, I was going to volunteer, and Reed is very much like, well, if you insist, I guess you can go. If you want to go so badly, I guess you can go and take her. If you want to go so badly, I guess I won't stop you. But so did Reed have an opportunity to like consult with the tribe about the decision?

I think he could have. And I think that just because Natalie says, I want to go, I think it's a Q situation. Like, like, you know, somebody could say like, hey, Liz can have my spot. Survivor Q or Star Trek Q? Survivor Q. And like, he could say, no, I don't want Natalie to go to Exile Island. I want Julie to go to Exile Island. Could you imagine if Star Trek Q was responsible for making these calls?

Hmm. Hero Arena would be crazy if Q was in charge. It would be pretty fun. But I feel like if Reed has the opportunity to consult with the group, why is he just immediately coming out with, I think it should

be Julie. But who do you want him to consult with? Like, I'm sure he's talked to his group. The group would be like, guys, what are we thinking? Instead of him just being like, I think I think the group has like different interests. I think that Jeremy and Natalie don't want Julie to go to. And I think that him

and Josh and Alec and Wes are probably would like to see Julie quit the game. So is it like open hostilities at this point? We think I don't think it's open hostilities, but I think that there's like a little bit of like a seemingly a line in the sand that, you know,

Jeremy and Natalie are with Baylor and are with Baylor and Missy. And I think that John and Jacqueline are like the true free agents. Yeah. Okay. Anyway, Natalie's like, I'll just go. Yeah. This was a great move by Natalie.

I mean, this is really the start of Natalie's like meteoric rise to the top in this season where she signals to Missy, I'm going to take care of Baylor. You know, she's never had any interaction with Baylor before and she gets to bond with her. She gets the clue to the idol. So a lot of good things come out of this. to bond with her she gets the clue to the idol so a lot of good things come out of this yeah smart play for sure yeah i think uh and a hard thing to do i feel like uh is like you know you can't quite smell those kebabs yet yes you know she's she's surrendering her spot in the kebab i think she's also feeling like i'm saving julie Like this was like accomplished, like a lot of goals for Natalie. And I think that also like, because of this move here,

she has a home after Jeremy gets blindsided. Like, I think that had she not signaled to Missy ahead of time, the, like Missy and Baylor are going to do a lot of work to protect Natalie after Jeremy gets blindsided. But anyway, now I,

I believe before she goes and before like, uh, now read, who are you sending? Keeping in mind that whoever goes is probably is the operative word, I believe he says, is probably not going to get to enjoy this reward. set aside a pair of skewers for Natalie on her return, would she eat it if it was available? Would you eat day-old meat skewers, Rob, if they were set aside for you after you came back from Exile Island?

As much as I hate to waste food. Yeah. I still, I don't think you should eat chicken or beef that's been left out in the elements for over 24 hours. Well, then I really think that- I gotta see, we gotta hear from Brandon Donlan how he did trying all of the cheesesteak places in Philadelphia and then we'll get his take on it.

Famously, they just like sun-kissed those steaks, right? Like that's how they get the sear on them. I feel like maybe Jeff should have taken out the word probably and should have just said you're going to miss out on the thing because the

fools of Hunapu I think could have heard probably and been like, oh, that's a good idea. We should set one of these aside. They weren't going to set anything aside. Maybe we could cook one and just bring it to the challenge tomorrow. That'll get rid of it. No.

Alright, so meanwhile back at Coyope, a very light Keith Nail episode. And it's interesting, we have our two later days guys, Keith and Dale. They seemingly have no interaction whatsoever in the time that they are together. Interestingly, one of these guys has the real idol. Yes.

And is like, hey, I got it. I got my backup plan. And then Dale has the fake idol and is really signaling to everybody. Well, I don't want to have to play my idol tonight but i will yeah yeah but there's some symmetry there between the two of them totally yeah yeah one one is a one is a fake one is the genuine article yes okay and so uh we we see that dale showing john uh the idol and john is passing that information along to Missy. Is this not our first opportunity? I can't imagine. I mean, other than like the countdown, I can't imagine where was the opportunity to really talk about.

Like, is it in the blood when it comes to like island idol creativity where like Kelly Wentworth is going to be a very strong idol player? where like Kelly Wentworth is going to be a very strong idol player. Her father maybe isn't the strongest idol player, but there's some ingenuity. He's trying things. Is it? I think they're scrappy. Underdog Wentworth is a term that I've heard thrown around.

See, the dogs, they're back. Shout out to my dogs at the crib. And Kelly Wentworth loves dogs. She she does she's a big dog lover yeah for sure so then out on exile island Natalie and Baylor they have a moment that Baylor gets the idle clue

they were going to come back to that eventually Hunapu is enjoying the kebabs uh everything is annoying jeremy jeremy talks about josh and reed they're so they're too lovey-dovey if me and val were out here for it would be like we didn't know each other yeah yeah would you uh and nico Nicole have like acknowledged each other's existence? Would we be too schmoopy? Is that the question? We would not be schmoopy. If you went out to dinner with us, we wouldn't be schmoopy. Let alone on Survivor, like be all schmoopy. Yeah. Lovey dovey.

Should we be grudging these people for being schmoopy with their loved ones? This feels a little bitter. This feels like a little bit of a bitter Jeremy here. It's like, just let you know. Listen, let them enjoy all the time that they do have together. You know, some of some of these some of these loved one pairs will last longer than others, both at the game and IRL. Yeah. I say let them schmoop.

Yeah, I think that Jeremy was also just beside himself. This is bad strategy also. They're doing it, and it's also that it's not even good gameplay. What? They're going to hide the fact that they're Broadway boyfriends? I don't think so everyone knows yeah like on another season yeah maybe jeremy is also a little extra sensitive too because his loved one is gone that's what i'm saying he's bitter yeah yeah bitter okay so bitter they're enjoying all of the delicious uh kebabs and uh we hear from alec just how much

he is enjoying this reward i'm a meat collector i i eat meat a lot it was ridiculous my skirt was blown up we don't talk enough about skirt was blown up. Yeah. I think that we probably missed our moment to really make a meal out of that back in the day. Now, what's the context of skirt was blown up? Like, I'm having, like, mental imagery of, like, Marilyn Monroe is, like, walking across. Like, that's what the meat is doing to him. Yeah, I don't think he's thinking of Marilyn Monroe.

I'm not entirely sure he knows who that is. Was it skirt steak? That was my initial impression. The skirt was blown up. The skirt was like blowing me up. The sirloin was to die for. Yeah, the London broil is always bad. So it was pretty bad out here as well. The brisket was off die for. Yeah. The London broil is always bad. So it was pretty bad out here as well.

The brisket was off the chain. You know, so like, but I do feel like it blew my skirt up. The skirt was blown up. The skirt was blown up is what he says. Can we hear it again? Just let it rip one more time, please. My skirt was blown up. My skirt. My skirt.

My skirt was blown up. My skirt was blown up. Yeah, I think because I'm a meat collector is such an insane phrase. Has anybody else in the history of the English language ever said that sentence?

Like as an original thought as an original thought no al christie uh placed those words uh next to each other for the first time no one had ever done that before i am uh even we start to get into meat like i think people have probably said i am a meat cute fan like i love a meat cute uh but even then we're pushing it i think once meat gets introduced i think we already have four words next to each other that have not really had a lot of familiarity a meat collector i'm not i takes it way over the line. Way past. Way, way down the line.

Yeah, because Josh, when you are eating things, are you collecting them in your stomach? Yeah, I suppose. It's only, but it's only for a short time. But every single day I lose my collection. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't get a lot in return for it. Yeah.

It's a pretty shitty collection. Okay. But I think if he hadn't laid those otherwise innocuous words next to each other in such a bizarre confidence, there's a confidence in, I'm a meat collector. Like, that's going to impress me. That's going to impress whoever is conducting the interview, I'm a meat collector. That's going to impress me. That's going to impress whoever is conducting the interview. I'm a meat collector. I eat meat a lot.

A lot. It was ridiculous. My skirt was blown up. That whole thing actually is unbelievable. Every last word in that confessional. I eat meat a lot. A lot. It was ridiculous.

What are we talking about? I eat meat a lot. I eat meat a lot. I mean, I eat meat a lot. My skirt is rarely blown up. What's the skirt line exactly again? My skirt was blown up, I think he says. My skirt was blown up, I think he says. My skirt was blown

up. Now, like... I don't want to think about why that is a phrase that Al Christie had at the ready. I really don't, because I know it's not because of Marilyn Monroe. My skirt was blown up, or my skirt was blowing up of like a... It didn't have like some

sort of like a gassy effect on him, right? Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Somebody who eats meat a lot, I would like to think that his collection is fairly pristine. Yes, and also I encourage Alec at some point, you know, when he's a virgin,

make sure you get a colonoscopy also. 10 years greater, how old is Alec Christie? He's not quite in colonoscopy. I think he's, no, not quite. Maybe 10 years after this. He's probably, I would imagine, like 34. Yeah. I'm getting close to colonoscopy striking distance myself.

Mm-hmm. Oof. How old is Alec Christie? Google's like, who? Yeah who yeah 30 33 now okay born september 7th 1991 wow wow yes uh okay well uh here's to 10 years of meat collecting for alec Christie. Can I tell you the ultimate irony of it all? Well, the meat is very irony. Yeah, high in iron. More of a fish collector.

More of a fish collector. Now, do we think Alec Christie thinks that fish is meat? I'm a fish collector. You gotta get back to some people. I feel like you can collect fish because you can put them on the wall. Yeah, you do I feel like you can collect fish because you can put them on the wall

yeah you do you can collect meat as well it'd just be kind of gross he went to Halloween with someone who's dressed as Reno 911 yeah and he's young money

but this is like 417 weeks ago. So this was like in 2016. Okay. More of a fish collector. I don't know how recent these fish... 400 and how many weeks ago? This is 288 weeks ago. Okay, that's 288.

So he could be a little bit off the Instagram grid. This is 2019 is when he last posted one of his collected quote unquote meats, which is indeed just a fish, which means that his Halloween post is from even earlier. Remember Drew wanted the fishing equipment.

He's a fish collector. He's a fish collector. Okay. Alright, so we get a little bit also about Julie is feeling down it's not going so good jeremy needs her to stay out there alec is not very compassionate towards her um let's go to our immunity challenge and uh we've like a i'll explain to you what was going on here it was like a big cube um i'm trying to to think of did we have the big cube again recently in Survivor or was that

earlier this season that we used the big cube in the challenge do you remember seeing a big like giant cube yeah it's fine it's fine they had to roll the cube get the keys down and ultimately oh right there's like

the little bamboo things like the little shafts that have things that you got to take stuff out of yeah something like that um and then ultimately uh it comes down to a um uh raise a sail puzzle raise the sail and coyote actually has a pretty good lead but when it comes down to it, John Mish on the sale puzzle was no match for Josh and Reed. Yeah. John Mish or Rome on the puzzle is an interesting question. Right.

John Mish, I think, did better. John Mish at least got a couple of pieces of the sale out there. Okay? Yeah. So, all right. Hunapu, go back to camp. Coyopa,

Dale says this is going to be, this loss is going to be- This is going to be a hard night for these guys. Because somebody's loved one is going home tonight. Yeah, somebody's loved one is going home tonight. And I was surprised. Jeff was like, I think it's so great that all these days later,

you have formed such close bonds that you consider them your loved ones, Dale. Yeah. Jeff is going to pursue this line of questioning at Tribal Council, but I think in the moment he's like, what? What are you... Okay. Well, you know, there is this...

Dale is selling so hard. Here's the... If these players were good, they would have sniffed this out a mile away that Dale doesn't have anything. And I think, like, you know, at least at this point, maybe Jeff is still in the place where he's like, wait, Dale, what do you have? Right now, I am in a

tight situation because I don't have an idol. I don't have anything. I am just lying. Yeah, Dale and Val really come full circle on this. Yeah, Dale definitely went to the Val Collins school of idol play.

So he like, you know, he's he's ready to fib he's gonna fib he's gonna bluff to blave yes speaking of loved ones yeah yeah yeah i'm sorry i i interrupted you to play the val clip what were you gonna say absolutely no idea anymore it It's gone. Couldn't have been that good. Couldn't have been that good. All right. So yeah, we're,

Dale is trying to get the votes on Missy. I think this is a mistake. I think he should be trying to push the votes on Keith. He does. He does. He does this wrong. He does this wrong. Yeah.

Like I do think like, he's like, you gotta, you got room in the truck for one old guy. I'm just saying, take me with you, Michelin man. You know, like, I feel like he just like, like, throw Keith under the tuck. Yeah, because he's if he would have voted for Keith, it would be the vote would be tied. I think they'd vote him out on the re-vote, but at least he'd force a tie.

He votes for Missy here Yeah and I think He must have been able to Suss out enough Like Dale's John Misch is not exactly The master liar Like

That we know of But Dale is like Blind with hatred for Missy. Yeah. What did he say again? What did he say? He called her the B word last week. Bossy.

Bossy. Yeah. That wasn't the B word. He said another B word also on top of that. Speaking of dogs. He just he can't b word he's he said another b word also on top of that speaking of dogs like he he just uh like uh he he can't he can't get the idea of voting anyone other than missy out of his mind like like the line was just crossed uh and uh you know she slaughtered my daughter you know like I feel like it's personal this time it's personal

and so like he can't see past that yeah and if he had seen past that maybe I don't know maybe okay but John Mish really is like buying into like Dale said he'll give me the idol like Jacqueline we like maybe we should keep him maybe we should come up with him like he's like it could be

me and you and we're in the best spot and we've got an idol now too and Jacquged like like sweet summer child sweetheart no yeah maybe no babe you know she babe texts him on that one uh but dale i i love that john's like final confessional uh big john as dale likes to call him uh Big John's final confessional going to tribal council. It's like, I think my best move is to play with Dale. Take that idol that he's offering me. So like, you know. Take his pog.

We're trying to like get into tribal council with a little bit of intrigue, but there isn't really much. Okay. All right. We go to tribal council and Dale says, Jeff asked, what did you mean by that earlier today about voting?

Um, and, they're talking about a few different things that there's a very colorful metaphor that Baylor, uh, uses to describe her time at exile Island. She compares it to like being a kid who's lost their mom at the grocery store like that feels lived in yeah were you ever lost as a kid i don't remember i remember a big fear

of being lost i think there was a lot of fear of like your fear or your parents I think there was a lot of fear of like in the store if you like wander off because like we're still like disconnected you could just not if you're supposed to meet somebody and you weren't where they were you were supposed to be and they weren't where they were supposed to be

you would just never see that person again like there was a lot of different ways like you just like, uh, if you didn't nail it exactly, you could just miss an encounter entirely. And then that's it. I'll never see this person again.

I have no way of getting in contact with this person. It is absolutely astounding that before cell phones, anyone was able to find each other. Now I put an air tag on my kids and then i i never have to worry no they don't know about it yeah it's like what is this dad i have this my shirt is this tag it's like at least leave it yeah you're tagging your kids no not yet um but you think about it this is a good idea it's not a bad idea uh it's actually you know what? I bought four AirTags. I put... Dominic has a... So Dominic has a flip phone.

My son has a flip phone. And we didn't want him to have a full smartphone. So we got him a dumb phone, but we AirTagged the smartphone so we can sort of see where he is. I got three more AirTags. I don't know what to do with them. I wish you'd brought some

to Philly. You could have air tagged me. I could have air tagged you. I'm thinking about, this is where my leading contenders for the other air tags. Yeah, what's here? I'm going to put one on the remote control. Smart.

I can never find the remote. I'm like, where is the remote control? I waited my whole life to have a nice TV that I could put on, and my kids, they're constantly taking it. I was going to put an air tag on my car. Okay. I'm like, where am I parked again? don't have like one of those like uh like uh like smart things it's like oh

your car's parked over here or something um i don't know if i do have that i don't know how to operate it i've got but i don't know i don't know where else to air what else to air tag your dog carmella that she we have the invisible fence. She can't leave. Well, you know, I don't know that that would have stopped Shadow, Chance, and Sassy if they really had to get somewhere. So, like, if Carmella ever really needs to go, she may brave it, and then you're SOL. Yeah, but she's very concerned about getting the electric shock if she hits the perimeter.

So that would be, I mean, like, but I'm saying that even Andy Dufresne was able to get out of Shawshank, essentially. She's not trying to get out. She doesn't want to leave. Yeah. But I don't know. I gotta figure out what's...

Is that who, Alec, Rita Hayworth was maybe, he was thinking about the blown-up skirts? Being blown-up skirt. Okay. Anyway, Baylor, when she cries missy cries the whole or when missy cries baylor cries the whole family cries uh so anyway uh we get the votes uh comes in uh three votes for dale two votes for keith one vote for missy the the wildest part of this whole tribal council is dale gets voted out doesn't say anything dale the tribe has spoken john then

right after the dale leaving says to jacqueline you're so beautiful you're so beautiful focus yeah schmoopy we're being a little schmo can we have some respect for dale please the tribal council yeah well maybe maybe Well, maybe you're saying that there's no context for it, but maybe the context is like Jacqueline was like honey bear, sweetie poo. You look so beautiful.

We gotta let him go. But I want the dog! And she's like, you can't have it. You can't have it. And then like now that the dog is gone and it's no longer an option that he can adopt Dale. Maybe he's like looking at Jacqueline in this new light of like, you're so wise. You're so beautiful. You know, like she really saved the game for him.

All right, Josh, I got some. We have some great research that gets done on this podcast. OK, Danielle, that you already referenced. Also Josh Green. They go through everything and tell us about what was going on the podcast back on the week of October 29th, 2014. Let's get the highlights. All right. So let's start with the know-it-alls.

dolls according to josh josh green says that rob and steven were very high on dale's efforts to save himself steven says he was gonna give dale the fishy he's a fish collector until dale got voted out uh-huh who did he give it to do we know um let me see if that comes up okay missy missy got the fishy according to steven ste Steven was torn between John and Missy, but I shot it down because John almost fell for Dale's idol plan. I think you're right. I stand by that. Yeah, I stand that. All right.

Then Steven was also very down on that they shouldn't have split the vote here. What did he think they should have done? He says these kids today, he said they love the vote here. Why? What did he think they should have done? He says that these kids today, he said they, they love their vote splits. That's not the kid's fault. That's the world's fault. The world is changing and these kids have to keep up.

When, when Steven was a survivor kid, he didn't have to worry about the same things that these kids have to worry about. The culture is totally different. And even now now that like alec christie is like a survivor grandpa and we're talking about all these kids in the new era and the things that they've got to worry about all the various pogs and slammers

that they're trying to bob and weave their way through i think i i understand sort of like the uh that instinct to like you know know, get off my porch. But I think that, you know, this is I think that this is probably the right way to have played it. No. Yeah, I think so. It's like for that for us, enormous harm. But then you kind of alienate Keith a little bit also. Keith doesn't care about stuff like that. So both Josh and Danielle

highlighted, this is another great running tally of Stephen making Marty Piambo references in 2014. Yeah, we're really trying to get Mr. Farty a second chance.

Mr. Farty. Yeah. Is this Stephen's like a major second chance pregame alliance? He talks in I Stand Cagayan about in Brains vs. Brawn that he was really hyping up Bob Crowley and

Yao Man. Maybe Marty Piombo was also going to be. They would stop each other and be like over the years at events like we're the Brains tribe. But maybe Steven's just keeping his options open for any other possible Brains. Josh Green cites that Steven was really going all in on the But like baby Steven's just keeping his options open for any other possible brains. Josh Green cites that Steven was really going all in on the muffin thing, including calling Missy's good position going into the merge as the rise of muffin and made a bunch of other muffin puns.

But last week was when he said muffin first. You know, I don't think we actually, it might have been episode three. It might have been before we really had a lot. Who's Muffin? What does Muffin think? Danielle also cites that I threw out a I volunteer as tribute joke about Natalie going to XL

Island. Well, this week there were some Hunger Games, so makes sense. Also, Steven says that food on Survivor makes you sick and or hungrier after. So Stephen is down on winning food on Survivor. Okay. So he's like Jeremy here where it's just like power forward, eyes on the prize.

Don't think about the food. Do you think there's wisdom to this? Like in your experience, your memory of this. No, eat food. No, get food. This is crazy talk. I don't get gastrointestinal distress like Steven. When you guys had

the refrigerator of Coca-Cola, was that... Oh, they could have put a kebab in the back of your space and they could have held it for you, actually. Were you happy to... Why were you so happy? Were you okay? When what? When the Coke ran dry? Why were you so happy? Yeah. Were you okay? When what? When the Coke ran dry.

I was on the other tribe by then. Oh, okay. So you were coked out at that point. Yeah, I was coked out of my mind. Yeah. So Danielle listened to my exit interview with Dale. Dale tells us that he has sworn off muffins. Out of protest?

Yes. That's good uh that's good that's good dale also said baylor had issues with him because i think i reminded her of one of her mom's exes uncouth not demure not very mindful mindful. No, no. Okay. As mean. Do you think that they ever communicate Dale and Missy as former castmates? I don't think so. I don't think so.

Rob said he hopes to hear more from the Wentworths in the future. Well, wish granted. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

And tell me, is this still interesting, this stuff from the other? Absolutely. A hundred percent. A million percent. This is great. All right. Danielle listened to the interview with Vetus was on the podcast. Ah, okay.

Okay. Vetus, who was also pre-gaming with Monty P. Vetus, you should totally come take yoga. Yeah. Vetus talked a lot about wanting to be with his son, which was foreshadowing for his season 31 Ponderosa behavior. According to him. Was that what happened in 31?

Was he like my kid? I don't remember that. Well, I think he wanted to leave Ponderosa. Oh, right. Yes. Forgot about that. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. was he like my kid i don't remember well i think he wanted to leave ponderosa oh right yes forgot about that yeah okay yeah let's see uh then uh vitus wants to be able to be on survivor again before survivor 40 according to danielle wish granted oops okay and uh vidas was commenting on how huge the merge was at 12 if only we knew that 13 person merges were going to be normalized no no no no no they're not uh merges rob right they're uh

they're like uh they're mergatories oh yeah i'm a wig those are. Let me let me tie this also back to Survivor Kageyan. In 2014, Vetus casually throws in, according to Josh Green, Vetus casually throws in he's in touch with Morgan from last season and they exchanged a couple of messages, but he wouldn't say anything more than that. Wow. Fascinating. Vetus. Vetus Vetus my uh winner pick for a survivor second chance if you'll recall yes yeah yeah that played well okay um I talked to Michael Snow on voicemails yeah second chance we were high on it we were high

on him yeah um were high on him. Yeah. And then Josh Green says in the voicemail show, I read a tweet from Jeff where he was adamantly defending, giving Hunapu more rights, saying something along the lines of how they can't just let the players starve with no food. Boy, Jeff has changed his tune a lot since 2014.

Yeah. But I mean, I guess. Yeah. But I think, well, look, I think the food is more plentiful in Fiji would be my guess. Whether it's because there's more of the fruits, the local flora and fauna, or perhaps even imported flora and fauna. You just never know. I think the opportunities to eat off the land in Fiji, greater than they perhaps were in San Juan del Sur. A couple other notes from social media also that Danielle tracked. That Bryce tweeted that Dale can still be a freak all week. Yeah, this is correct.

Johnny Fairplay said Missy is 65. So I wonder how old he thinks Sue is. Uh-huh. And then also Stephen Fishback tweeted and quoted Jeff. Here come the tears. It's the alternative title for my autobiography steven said and michael snow said he didn't know that steven cried but soon everyone will know yeah yeah did he say that did michael snow say no danielle said that danielle said that because it was 2014 i thought that

michael snow was a prophet like no there you go wait what was the context of uh steven retweeting probes there i guess in the episode uh that jeff said here come the tears at tribal council steven said that that's good that's the title for my autobiography wow i do think sometimes you manifest things yeah okay all right there you go josh say one of those and we're headed into the merge. A prop, not mergatory. Is there any ways in which there were echoes of episode six of Survivor? Is Sam Wandell, sir, 10 years later in Survivor 47?

Alec collected meat and several members of the cast of Survivor 47 collected charcuterie. Yes. Yes. Yep. That's really the big one, I think. Yeah. That's it, really, pretty much.

Hmm. Like, Rome didn't fake any idols. No. He faked some tears, so maybe there was, like, a little bit of the here comes the tears with Rome. Yep. But not really.

Not on this one. Not too similar. But a lot of like very fun parallels with with with the too many cooks of it all, I think, is very, very funny. And this was a very nostalgic week, though. little bit more on the really, really fun event in Philadelphia, where we screened I Stand Cagayan for a really, really wonderful house filled with people who are Survivor fans and members of this community and the great work that Matt Scott and Dr. Amanda and Lindsay Wilson all did to make the documentary. So many great moments from Cagayan that we relived but i think that my favorite moment from uh not just necessarily the documentary but from watching the documentary with a packed crowd is speaking of

fishback and speaking of tweets uh the documentary just like minor spoiler relitigates some of the twitter behavior uh from survivor kagian and i think like some of the biggest pops in the theater were like those moments from like RHAP lore 10 years ago. And that just like the S stained glasses of it all. Yeah, and can I share this? This is from All Winner Survivor, which is a great Instagram follow. They have a lot of clips.

They happened to share this clip today, which I wish we would have pulled for the documentary had we had it. So this is from when Parvati used to host, I believe they called it Survivor Live during Survivor Cagayan. She has Tony in the studio following the win. And Parvati asked Tony about some of his social media antics. Put it for me in the end. So they know that that wasn't my strategy to lie on my dead dad. You know, that's not what I went into the game wanting to do. That was spur of the moment.

It was spontaneous and it was real. It was pure. It was emotion. That's kind of like how you react to some of the haters on Twitter. Especially Stephen Fishback. Stephen Fishback can really ruffle people's feathers. Yeah, you know, so, you know, I cleared the air with him too. You did.

Obviously. There you go. Tony with like the, with this, Tony's shirt. I don't know why Tony's shirt is so like grabbing me right now. Tony's like sort of like talk show attire, right? Like if he like went on Fallon or something and he's just got the button down that he can't close up. I don't know. Something about

Tony's whole vibe right there. It's doing it. This is a winner look. Yeah. Was it winner? Yeah, he had to. They wouldn't have interviewed him during the season. Was that a Game Changers thing? No, because Parvati was not doing this show by Game Changers.

Got it. Yeah. So I think that's probably after the finale. I would guess this is like the day after the finale. But there was obviously just like the documentary that you all need to watch. It's about to be available. By the time you're listening to this as a podcast, it's for sure available. It's just like there's so much nostalgia

for this period of Survivor from 10 years earlier that is so wonderful to re-examine and re-experience. But I really loved the ways in which the documentary and the room particularly reacted to some of the ways in which our podcast, this thing of ours, this thing of ours that Pogs likes to talk about that, like it, you know, we're intermingled in the lore starting there, you know, like at least starting there. It's just a cool thing. It's a cool thing that this is not just like 10 years of Kageyan or 10 years of stan wandel store this is at least 10 years of this

podcast empire that we all continue to celebrate so very fun yeah really really fun and then also let me just uh then my uh personal uh 20 years greater is that october 28th 2004 is when i moved to los angeles wow. So that's 20 years ago this week. I was moving to Los Angeles and Survivor Vanuatu was airing. 10 years later, we were watching Dale get voted out. And 10 years after that,

we went to Philadelphia and talked about this podcast and Rome got voted out. Where will we be 10 years from now? Today. 10 years from now, it'll be great if we pull this clip 10 years from now.

We'll be in the midst of Survivor 67. Really, the countdown to Survivor 69 will be on. I really hate COVID for so many reasons, but this is a big one. Yeah, we would be right there.

We would be only 10 years away from Survivor 69. There's no way that they can call it Survivor 69. No chance. We're not doing numbers at that point. There's just no way. No chance. Josh, the ratings will be huge. Yeah.

Oh my God. Survivor Island of the Nice. You know? Nice quests. Yeah. Yeah. Did I play this clip also? All right, Natalie, Baylor, you will head to Exile Island.

You will return in time for the next immunity challenge. I hope you don't get lost. Thank you, Natalie. Bye. Love you, Bay. Bye. Yeah. Love you, Bay.

Love you, Bay. The sign-off, really, for years. Love you, bae. Bye. Love you, bae. Love you, bae. The sign-off, really, for years. Love you, bae. I had a thought earlier today in listening to the episode of do people still say

bae? Or do people in my and your circles say bae still because of that? I think it's because of that. Jordan Kalish will often sign off with, love you, bae. Yeah. But like outside of this.

I'll say it unironically to my wife tonight and see if she even remembers. Outside of all of this, like, is that something that people still call each other? Hmm. Or is this very 2014? Yeah. Let us know on social media if anybody still says bay would love to know love you bay well i love you bay we got some great hang times in over the last uh fun stuff hours and um here's to many more all right thank you so much for joining us uh we're

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