RHAP: We Know Survivor - Survivor San Juan Del Sur Ep 9 | 10 Year Anniversary

Episode Date: November 20, 2024

Rob Cesternino and Josh Wigler are back to dissect episode nine of Survivor: San Juan del Sur, marking its 10-year anniversary.

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and it sounded just like this. These guys are so dumb. Yes, Jeremy voted out 10 years ago tonight and here with me to talk about it 10 years later is Josh Wigler. Josh, how are you? I'm having one of those

moments where it's state dependent memory, right? Where I think I have to be plugged into RHAP podcast mode to go back 10 years into the past to remember what it was like to hear you ask Jeremy if he could give you a clean

these guys are so dumb for the soundboard. Yeah. Which it seems as though you're still using all these years later. Well done. I remember this.

Great job, Josh. I got snapped back in time. So that'll be 10 years ago tomorrow when I did my exit interview with Jeremy. But yeah, 10 years ago tonight, a big blind side for us. And Jeremy ends up going out in survivor San

Juan del Sur him and Natalie give up a reward for John and Jacqueline. And how do they repay them? Nothing. They flip them off. Is that what you just know? Well, that's, that's what they, that's basically what they did. Yeah. Yeah. Flippers never win, uh, as we'll come to find across the rest of this season, but it is a depressing night of television. Rob, the good guys lost this time. Yep. And so guys lost this one. Jeremy goes home and thus, uh, sets in motion and arc, which ultimately will result in Jeremy returning to Survivor

and then winning Survivor second chances in about then. He'll be the winner about in another year's time. So that's almost nine years ago for Jeremy winning. Almost nine years ago. Let's play this clip one year from today when we're doing Second Chance 10 years later. We'll do San Juan del Sur's 10-year anniversary one year later.

I don't know if we need Worlds Apart 10 years later, but Second Chance is 10 years later. That might have some legs. Second Chance 10 years later, in my opinion, is a must. We have to do it. We have to do it. We have to do it. That is the first of the season. With Steven, maybe.

Maybe Steven has ever podcast about second chances. That's an interesting point. That's an interesting point. We could see if Steven would be brave enough to see if the courage, like Drew Christie, to confront himself. Could he look in the mirror and go back and see what happened? I don't know,

but I would love that. I think that'd be great. I think that'd be fun. And who needs Worlds Apart as a 10-year anniversary? Watts? I don't know. Maybe. We'll see. Let's see what happens. We'll listen to the will of the people as we go through it. But anyway, how are you today, Josh? the will of the people as we go through it. But anyway, how are you today, Josh? I'm all right. I'm doing just fine. Yeah, I'm good. How are you? You went to the, that was very fishbackian of me. That's a classic Steven deflection of like, I don't want to tell you that I'm not doing great today. So let's just flip it right back on you.

How are you doing, Rob? Yeah, I'm doing okay. I did go to the dentist today, but it was nothing. Robert after dentist? Procedure. Yeah. i showed my kids that video the other day what did they think uh they liked it you know scared no no they were not i was trying to come up with a list of like what are like the classic youtube videos yes to show my kids david after dentist you got it uh they liked it have you sent them the nintendo 64 kid no i don't think so that's what he opened this is from like the 90s but it was on the videos of the early aughts it's a little kid going ah nintendo 64 he goes nuts yeah it was nuts on that n64 yeah charlie bit my finger of course that was the next one I was going to, which may have, I hope they're old enough that they're not getting any ideas from Charlie bit my finger.

Well, the kids are old enough. And then there was a lot of videos of like Charlie bit my finger 10 years later. And those videos were like seven or eight years old. Oh gosh. Like Charlie and his brother, I think are probably like in,

in college by now. But Charlie was on survivor last season. Actually, that's the same guy hosting a podcast with Jeff probes. Yeah. Well, soda at one point is like Charlie. Uh,

she doesn't, but you know what I thought was kind of sad. I like that. I think that if Charlie's finger got bit in 2024, I think that they would have had more ways to monetize it. I think they'd be sitting on like Charlie be like driving a Bentley

these days. Charlie's finger got bit. And no one cares. Everybody laughed, but they didn't make a like they were in the 10 years later video, they were like were like well we got to do a few adverts like oh that's not good enough that's not good enough not good enough they

needed a costco deal they need to go around giving the boom yeah those guys are those guys are making bank yeah those risler forget it he's set for life risler's smart right and you could see it in the risler's eyes uh where the ris like, and he's like outlining his jaw. He's mean mugging. And he knows. He's like, I have two years of this max before like everyone catches on to me not being talented in any other capacity. Yeah. So they got to rake it in now.

They don't have any other move. Make that Rizzler money now before that Rizzler money is unavailable for life yeah all right spend wisely too spend wisely all right all right so let's uh drop uh who gets the boom and who gets the doom over on Survivor San Juan del Sur this week uh John and Jacqueline were in this interesting position, as they've been for some time in the game, about which way do they want to go. And last week it was all about that the guys disrespected Jacqueline. And so how could John vote with those guys? They disrespected Jacqueline.

They have no respect for his girlfriend. How could he work with them? And I like this is this is this is the mark of a great partner. Great partner, right? He's saying like, I'm not going to talk to these bro hawks.

I'm not going to deal with these these nincompoops, these ingrates who won't even treat my future wife like a human. Yeah. And they're not. They don't talk to her. We established this at multiple points in this episode.

Yeah. Later on when it could have. Keith. Keith. Keith Dale just doesn't talk to girls. I talk to him if I pass him. If I pass him by, I talk to him. But, you know.

I get nervous. It's a lot, but this whole reason, like I can't work with them. They disrespect Jacqueline. Like this just like gets completely abandoned in this episode. That's like not a thing anymore. No,

not yet, but they, they, uh, we have, we've not seen the last of the john and jacqueline drama uh here this season there's some there's some great moments still to come trouble in paradise uh not not terribly far away yeah so is san juan del sur paradise no it looks go there very blind like uh one of like the least uh scenic survivor locations i'm surprised we go back here to

nicaragua after the you know nicaragua and redemption island not exactly like beloved seasons of survivor or you know beautiful locales yeah so i don't know if survivor kind of just got stuck up like okay okay, we've been to Samoa, we've been to Philippines. We're in sort of like this spiral of locations. Running out of places to travel. Running out of places to go, I guess back to Nicaragua, they said. That feels like one of those like, we travel every year. We go every year somewhere. Where do we want to go? Okay. Well, I don't want to think about it right now. We just got

back. And the further and further along they get in the year and the closer and closer they get to travel time. They're like, Nicaragua? That's really all that's available. That's what's left. So they go and we do another set of seasons here in Nicaragua.

I think it kind of adds to the charm of the season, actually. I think in the real time, I thought like, wow, it looks dry. Like San Juan del Sur is arid. Like an arid season of Survivor for certain.

But I think like now like sort of like, really? This? Like, I feel like that becomes like the defining trait of like the energy of San Juan del Sur. So I think like having that about the location a little bit too, sort of adds to the charm for me. Yeah. So.

Simone is in the chat right now. Sorry. Simone is in the chat right now saying that San Juan del Sur is the closest Josh will get to watching Big Brother. Is that true? Is San Juan del Sur is the closest Josh will get to watching Big Brother. Is that true? Is San Juan del Sur like Big Brother adjacent? I don't know. I feel like that some of the seasons that have either Hayden Moss or Beast Mode Cowboy are probably

closer to Big Brother than this. This is as close as we're going to get Josh to watch The Amazing Race, I think. I've watched some Amazing Race. Yeah, what do you think? I watched the 20s. That's fine. It's a fun show. You know, that's fine.

It's a fun show. Yeah. All right. You go around in a car. Those taxis that get you every time. Yeah. So after they get back, boy, Keith and Wes are like, boy, they got us. They really sold us.

They were completely snowed that John and Jacqueline did not vote with them. Yeah, and so now they're in a big pickle. How do they get themselves out of this one? And really, it seems like the only plan they have is like, well, between the two of us, one of us got an idol. We'll just lure them this way. We got to use it at the right time. It's like, oh, no. The moment that the nail males say, all right, well, we got to use it at the right time it's like oh no the moment that the nail males say

all right well we got this idol we got to use it at the right time should be a very clear immediate clue that it would not be used at the right time okay so let's get to our reward challenge and uh you mentioned that charlie uh bit my finger. Yeah. So the name of this reward challenge, the name of this reward challenge is, do you know? No, I don't. Shake it off.

Could this have been named after? T-Swift? Yeah, let's see. So Shake It Off is that is released in 2014. Yes, yes. Could it be? Could it be? As many of these challenges are named after songs.

There's no doubt in my mind that Jeff is a Swifty. Just no question whatsoever. Josh, it would be impossible because the, unless they had some sort of like unless i'm missing something uh that the song shake it off is released 10 years ago august 19th 2014 oh but this season is filmed in june of 2014 but they don't call it shake it off out there uh or at least if they do that doesn't translate through the tv and it could be the kind of thing that like shake it off comes out it's a phenom and uh kira hoffer at all after the fact they're like we're gonna call that shake it off

we gotta like get in on that but like khoffer famously in the challenge department famously like always named their challenges after some sort of song typically it's like 70s rock classic rock uh so a swifty shout out would maybe be a little bit outside of the box for them especially with those dates being what they are but i think we have also established that within um the greater survivor universe time travel is canon uh so it is it is possible could they have like named the song name the challenge after the popular like the song is is popping at the time the episode airs. Is it possible? Did they name? Did they know? Did they know? I don't think they knew,

but could they name it like, do they have to like not lock in the name of the challenge until the like the episode airs? I don't know. I think like they put, they have like their big board up that has like challenges for the season.

Like they've got their production office. And so things like names for challenges in their book, that stuff exists already. But if they wanted to change it after the fact to shake it off, I don't think anyone is coming in with a law book. So this reward challenge, according to our friends over at the Survivor Wiki,

has only run one other time previously, and that is in the Australian Outback. Yes, you're right. Nick Brown. Wow, good memory. Nick Brown.

Nick Brown, who was a winner earlier this month. Good guy won. In his vote. Good guy won. But it was called Rock the Boat. Right. And then it is now named, now new Sanan del sur's version shake it off shake it off shake it off uh do we do we never see this again this is the last time we see this challenge or do

they never run it again huh interesting okay uh so it took them 27 seasons in between instances. Where are we at? We're getting real close. 29 plus 27. It should have already happened. No, carry the one 56. Oh, I don't know how to math. Mm hmm.

The big mistake of trying to math on a podcast. All right. Mistake. All right. Well, you know, a few seasons from from now we'll be able to talk about this again yep uh the challenge needs a reminder for certain people in the chat i believe all right so we get our reward challenge and uh yada yada yada but they want to know they want to know what it was what shake it off was okay so you're on a beam right you're on you're just

like trying to like i'm on one side of the beam rob's on the other side of the beam we're both trying to shake shake shake shake shake it off and like we're just trying to like shake the other guy off of it and beneath back in the outback i believe they were like over like some sort of little bog my memory is like they're all a little bog yeah it was like a higher uh drop to the mud pit in the australian outback it was like a higher drop to the mud pit in the Australian Outback. It was a bit of a bog situation that like it's like the rare challenge for Colby to lose. I'd call it bogged down. Yeah, bogged down would be good. Nick Brown, who's like pinned against the wall is like, no, I'm not.

I'm not going home here. And so he just like walks through this challenge. This is a short drop to get down into the mud but they get muddy this version it's just like a very swift uh drop from the balance beam uh into into the mud pit and this is a mud pit not a bog uh and everyone is getting super super dirty except one person who i had forgotten about this but as soon as i started watching it again like the again like just like a cascade of memories it's like at the end of lost i'm waking up rob uh it's san juan del sur that turned out to be my constant uh and it's it's baylor versus

missy everybody's like going in everybody getting messy. Everyone's getting covered in mud. Reed's getting mud in the eye. It's a mess. And then Missy versus Baylor. And it's another instance of like Missy very clearly just like, no one's going to touch my kid. That includes myself. And so she's just like,

it's very obvious. My kid is not getting dirty. And my kid is not getting in the mud. Or my dead body. And so like Baylor has this tactic where after Missy drops, Baylor, instead of just like falling in, because everybody else who wins tends to like win with some sort of move that causes their bodies to plummet into the mud

with no real rhyme or reason just wet wet mud but baylor when she vanquishes her mother her mother uh baylor hops right off the beam and lands both legs deep into the mud, arms outstretched and the most stoic look on her face as if she is willing the mud to stay off her body. So you see everybody else is like Schwarzenegger at the end of Predator. Yeah. And Baylor is just like mud up to the knees. And like that big night for Baylor is just like mud up to the knees and like that big night for Baylor. Baylor having a really big episode of survivor. Uh,

it, it maybe perhaps was a premonition, uh, that she was doing, uh, that her, her superpower apparently is, uh,

her feet. Uh, so perhaps she was just like concentrating all the mud into her. Another, another way in which this episode, 10 years later, feed her a big deal this week on Survivor. Yeah. Okay. So Survivor fan says she wasn't birthed into the mud.

That's why she didn't win. Nowadays, you get birthed into the mud. Yeah. You just jump into the mud. Would she have quit New Era Surviv survivor when she found out that you get birthed into the mud she probably would not have liked it i don't think she would have liked it okay but let's talk about the important thing that happens here out of this reward challenge very quickly uh natalie says i want to give up my spot on the reward to john. And the reward is to go on a cruise ship. Going on a cruise is fun.

That's fun. And then Jeremy, very quickly, I want to give up my reward too. Uh, and so, uh, John and Jacqueline are going to get to do-si-do with Jeremy and Natalie here. Okay. And so we have, uh, this, you know, quid pro quo of the voting with us. We're going to now take care of our friends. And so, uh, Jeremy and Natalie don't go to the reward, but Jeff is like,

Oh, but you, Oh, you should have waited until after we picked who goes to exile. And so Jeremy, I'm not sure why he had his bag. i don't know if it was like part of the plan that jeremy was going to exile no matter what maybe he wanted to go look for the idol but there was some talk of like well jeremy's already packed so i guess it'll be jeremy to

go to exile island it seems like everyone was like jeremy go to exile uh seems like that's that's what it feels like uh we'd have to hear it from the source uh perhaps in our uh respective exits from this week uh we may be able to uncover that yeah okay um what do you think of this though uh like 10 10 years later does this kind of thing really happen anymore it doesn't really well no it doesn't happen anymore because um i'm trying to think of uh in the post-merge uh do we get these groups doing challenges uh together for reward i guess yeah i guess they do but uh the i guess the food is so scarce uh we we don't see you know it's not an alliance game uh the way that like uh jeremy and natalie and missy are trying to like put together this

like a group of different people and hold it together i feel like that the alliances are not as strong in uh modern new era survivor well i also think that jeff uh like uh is maybe a bit more of a stickler for these kinds of things now to the degree that like no sharing at the auction uh right like kyle you're gonna eat those meat wings and you're gonna like them uh you know you were no takebacks no trades but i think that jeff would let you switch out a reward i think that maybe the closest we had with this was going back to last season when q won the applebee's that it wasn't in the episode, but when Liz, uh, had her,

uh, emotional moment on the mat, uh, as we say nowadays, we didn't describe it that way in survivor 47, but that's, uh, or 46 that I believe that both Kenzie and Maria said,

Oh no, she could take my spot. And, uh, Q said, uh, debatable. Yeah, no way. You can could take my spot. And Q said, uh... Debatable. Yeah, no way. Debatable. You can't have my spot. Survivor fan says,

didn't Xander give up reward for Erica in 41? Survivor fan, I didn't know there was going to be a quiz about Survivor 41 today, okay? Who are you, Jordan Kalish? Yeah, I don't remember anything that happened in Survivor 41. Yeah, yeah. I like what you said about not remember anything that happened in Survivor 41. Yeah. Yeah.

I like what you said about not remember anything that happened in Survivor 41. Did Xander give up on a reward for Erica in Survivor 41? I don't know. Did he? You know what, though? I don't think do this as a rule. Well, it doesn't work out so great here. It doesn't work out so well here. And I think generally, I think my policy on this is like, I think we've've talked over the years about like do you want to just not win the reward is maybe the move but

like i think if you do win the reward you won the reward and like the spirit of competition dictates that you get the to reap the benefits so i i think that the issue here with this you know where natalie and jeremy like their heart is in the right place uh i think that maybe um the fact that the two of them did it like maybe it works out a little bit different if just natalie uh does it but because natalie and jeremy do it even keith nail is like oh that was a good move yeah you can't beat that like so if it's so like nakedly like transactional that even Keith can see like, oh, I know what they did. Yeah.

I know what that meant. So like, I think that maybe it's just like, okay, well now, oh, okay. I get it. You know, now I owe you one. People don't like that. What if Natalie is like, I'm giving my reward to John. And then Jeremy is like, I'm giving my reward to John and then Jeremy is like, I'm giving my reward to Wes.

Just would have been weird. I think they would have been weird. I wonder if maybe you, like Natalie, just gives up her reward to Jacqueline of, you know, just to take care of Jacqueline. I think that John is like such a, like, you know,

stomach on legs that he just wants to like uh i gotta feed my hungry boy you know yeah i think that uh that everybody knows john is like you can motivate him with his stomach yeah uh i think also like what are we dealing with at this point right like the it's like a big mob of people ostensibly this is what it is a big mob of people versus strategic masterminds like wes alec and the late great keith nail you know like not like the most uh savvy or even savaii survivors in existence and then reed who is like, you know, is trying stuff for sure in this episode, including outright robbery, like full on theft.

So like at this point, they're like not even really thinking that they've got much to worry about for the next four votes. This ends up being clearly, you know, Jeremy's blind spot. You know, they're not even thinking about this stuff yet uh john mish though uh he could not be happier uh he's like oh my god you guys rock oh i owe you for life yep and you know what if it wasn't for the business with the hidden

immunity idol uh maybe this does work yeah like maybe we shouldn't poo-poo this as much uh because it's really i think the events around the hidden immunity idol ultimately uh are probably the bigger factor in what ends up happening all right so quick jeremy ends up going to exile island back at camp keith and wes are they they are blown oh their skirt was blown up by this move bravo look at you uh and natalie is over there just be like yeah what do you want this is a pretty killer move wasn't it yeah and whatever happens just wes and keith they don't want to be blindsided whatever hey whatever you do that'll they don't want to be hashtag blindsided. Yes, that's what Wes says. Don't hashtag blindside

me. Now, is this the first time that a survivor player references a hashtag? Didn't it happen already on the show? Didn't we hashtag Huyopa? I think is the name of our tribe. Technically. Have they said hashtag? On the tribe flag?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure. You sure that's a hashtag and not an H? A second silent H? It's like a second H. So it's like, Yo, Hoi Opa. Yeah. It's like a George R.R. Martin spelling.

Oh, wow. I would be furious if George R.R. Martin named a character like Hugh with like two starting H's. Three H's. Dude, get out of here. We're not triple H-ing Hugh unless we're triple H-ing Hugh. Use the game.

Okay. That's not it. That's not it. All right, so at the reward, I don't feel like we don't really get a good sense of what the spread is at the reward. We see them on the boat. We heard about it. Jeff goes, sandwiches, pastrami.

That's what he says. Okay. Got it. Jeff goes, sandwiches, pastrami. That's what he says. He says, sandwiches, pastrami, drinks for the adults, soft drinks for the kiddos. Oh, yeah, that's true. Now, we had sandwiches in Survivor 47 in the real time 10 years later. BLT. BLT, yeah. Uh-huh. This is such a specific sandwich. I feel like sometimes their sandwich choices end up being really specific. I feel like a pastrami sandwich is a very specific thing. Right? I like a pastrami sandwich in the moment, but am I grabbing that off the shelf? I don't know. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Okay, so Josh was out here saying i cannot wait for tacos i want tacos bad i could see that who is out here being like i cannot wait for a pastrami sandwich or who's out there being like you know what i need blt but well you know this it just so happens that in big brother this past season, Angela was very much pastrami queen, right? No. No, I wish. That she was begging for

a BLT with real bacon. As opposed to what? I don't know. Turkey bacon, maybe? Yeah. Or like fake bacon. Like a plant-based bacon. They would never do that on Survivor.

I knew she was the charcuterie person. She also liked the charcuterie. So I think all these things would hit for Angela. She'd be psyched about a pastrami sandwich, I bet. I mean, I don't know her well enough to know. Would she discard the bread and just hoover down the pastrami?

No, I think she'd eat the bread. I guess it was the BLTA. I guess avocado also. discard the bread and just like Hoover down the pastrami, the bread. Okay. Yeah. I guess it was a BLT. A I guess avocado also. Okay. Well, don't start like getting on your high horse about real bacon.

If you're trying to put an avocado on there, you're disrupting the whole delicate balance of the BLT, Angela. Yep. So she had some very specific, uh, food picks for sure. Okay.

What did you think? Did you talk about it this week? The BLT? Did you spend any time on it? What about it? Oh, no, I'm not sorry.

47. No, not really. Uh, I mean that the burping, what would you, you know, it's funny.

Cause I said last week on the podcast, I think this was the episode of survivor with the most burping and farting ever. And then Saul was like, hold my BLT. Yes, that's right. Yeah. That's it. Anything else you want to say about the BLT?

No, not really. I was just checking to see if you had any further thoughts on it. No. You're not a big BLT guy, I don't think. Me? Yeah. I mean, I'm sure it's delicious, but I would never order. I want something with a little

more substance you need a little more protein like if you got a club sandwich and put some turkey on there okay you needed a turkey in there you need a fourth ingredient what maybe even avocado would improve the blt for you i don't know and are you a codder guy am i an avocado guy? Yeah. Yeah. Uh, yeah. I mean like guac. Yeah. Okay. It's fine. You know? Yeah.

Um, not gonna have Steven cut it up for me. Okay. But cool. All right. Reed. It says he's going to sow chaos. He doesn't really,

at first I was like, Oh, I think this was a mistake for Jeremy and Natalie. I might rewatch. I'm like, they left the swing votes alone with Reed. Yeah. But he doesn't really do much persuasion on the reward. It's giving small town Old West vibes

where he's the only person in the jail and everybody else just kind of... The jail cell isn't even locked because there's no threats in the town. the jail and like everybody else just kind of like the jail cell isn't even locked because like, there's no threats in the town, but like everybody knows he's like the local drunk that we just locked up the night before, but he's allowed to roam free.

Uh, like Reed doesn't have any real threat that he can seemingly pose to anybody. Um, and I don't even know how much like his keith thing matters in this episode uh you know other than to put like keith and wes on some measure of alert but like does he like yeah is that so chaos of reed what he does here not really uh and uh scw chaos or s-o-o-o chaos yeah s-o-o-o-o you know we've talked about how natalie doesn't really have much of a story in the season until Jeremy goes away.

But I also think the same could probably be said of read of that read is sort of a little bit of a non entity while Josh is there. And now all of a sudden he's very like mustache twirly and he's going to do things, but he's also sort of painted into a corner where that uh that he is really going to alienate keith and wes uh here in this episode he hates uh missy also doesn't really have a thing going on with them so it's like for him to like piece together a coalition it's a little tough for reed Yes. He doesn't have any.

He's all... He's stuck on a... Right now, I am in a tight situation because I don't have an idol. I don't have anything. I am just lying. Yeah.

He's got nowhere to go. I got no place else to go. He has nothing. Where can he go? Yeah. Okay. He can go with the nails and Alec. There's not a lot you could do with that. So it's a new year. You know what that means, setting big goals. Maybe you promised yourself you're going to hit the gym every day, or maybe you said you're gonna learn

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promote Acorns. Tier one compensation provided. Investing involves risk. Acorns Advisors LLC and SEC registered investment advisor. View important disclosures at acorns.com slash Rob Pod. view important disclosures at acorns.com slash Rob pod. All right. So Jeremy's on exile Island and, uh, I hate it here. He doesn't like it. I hate it here.

He doesn't like it. And that he knows there's an idol there. He's looking for it everywhere. He doesn't have it. And this is impossible. How could the idol not be here? He's looked everywhere. Yeah.

Uh, and he even has a more specific clue, you know, like all signs are pointing, but, and he even has a more specific clue you know like all signs are pointing but and he's like the only thing that makes sense is john found it uh but if he did why didn't he just tell me and then we i wouldn't have had to be here yeah he doesn't like that that john if john found it great this is like his same thing with keith nail we could have a sub alliance yeah yeah and not a blt sub no blt on a sub that gets more substantial just by a volume increase does that do anything for you not really yeah would not be like i can't

think of the situation where i'd order a blt on a hero a hero yeah so how about a killer or a hustler still not tempting me uh so yeah so he's like he's miserable he has a hard time sleeping while he's on exile what does he say about the crab yeah you know i was gonna pull that quote and i didn't end up doing it so he comes back and uh that they're like okay okay, wow, Jeremy, you really look beat. He's like, he's talking about, yeah, I didn't sleep much. He said, the crabs were shaky and scary. Yeah, he said, I didn't sleep much. The crabs were shaky and scary. Jeremy, why were the crabs so shaky and scary?

Like, I'm not even gonna say they were scarce and I couldn't eat anything because it was hard to get them, but why were they scary? It's like... Did they have really big pinchers? I think if the crabs... I think the crabs being shaky, that's what was scary.

It's like the crabs were coming out... They were just shaking their pinchers. Yeah. They kept shaking it off. Maybe that was what they got the idea for. Maybe everyone was watching, like Jeremy's really tripping out watching these crabs shake it off.

Yeah. The crabs were shaky and scary. The crabs were shaky and scary. Feels like a piece of dialogue from Severance. It doesn't feel like a thing that you're like scared about on Survivor. Yeah. But yeah.

Jeremy, what were the crabs like on Exile? Spooky, scary. Spooky, scary crabs. They're horrifying. Don't laugh. It was terrible. They were spooky and scary. Okay. We got a challenge. It's time for make a block tower.

They're really making a meal out of this, unlike a BLT. This is the first challenge ever you will do just with your feet. Yeah. Is this where the tweets, baby? Tweets. Baby tweets. Survivor tweets. They're better than bailer balancing and things with her feets.

Ryan Elder. That was the first of many survivor social media intro songs that he would turn around in less than a day. But there's so many people were live tweeting the show, which is amazing because 10 years later, survivor Twitter, at least for one night only, we'll see what the future holds, ports over to Survivor Blue Sky, where on Blue Sky, they are called skeets, whether you want them to be or not.

Does Blue Sky call them that? I don't think Blue Sky has an opinion. I think Blue Sky is like, sky is like agnostic blue sky man yeah it's not like you know like uh one person with their band hammer just like exploiting the social media network for their global gain it's like we are blue sky and the blue sky elders called him skeets so who are we to take that away from the elders so uh i was certainly in my head singing skeets baby skeets uh as we were posting so many uh i haven't made my first yeah i made an account i was going to promote the podcast that we did with sammy uh laity from

survivor 43 which was very fun but i didn't want my first uh blue sky message is this not a moment to do uh skeets baby skeets survivor uh they're they're better than baylor picking up stuff with her feet yeah just do it tweets survive they're better than baylor balancing things with her feets. Tweets. Skeet that right now and watch it blow up. What's blow up? I mean, like, you'll get like a couple hundred likes at least, I would guess. Mm-hmm. Skeets, baby skeets. Survivor skeets.

Okay. If you can, you know, hold it down while I type that in, because I don't have Blue Sky logged in on this computer that's in front of me. I got it. I can hold it down while i type that in because i don't have blue sky logged in on my this computer that's in i got it i i can hold us down what i'll do is i will narrate what happens in this challenge now because if you've forgotten what the challenge is it is here's a bunch of blocks set up the blocks into like a three-tiered cake structure is the word survivor a hashtag yeah do a hashtag do a hashtag hashtags are very useful on the blue sky uh at rob sestranino on the blue sky at round howard on the blue sky come say hi uh so you got to build a three-tiered uh block castle and then you have to get a flag in the middle of it. You have to do all of this with your feet.

And we see that Keith is doing decently well with it. Reed is doing really well with it. But it's Baylor who shows up and is like, she's just going to show up. She just shows up and just starts obliterating it. Just an incredible display of core strength from baylor uh and she is able to uh to to beat reed thanks in no small part to uh the cheerleading from her mother down the line where while baylor is like being, uh, uh, while Probst is narrating that Baylor is like, Oh,

Baylor's really in it. Missy seems to like abandon all other, uh, priorities and just get on the, come on, baby. You got this Bay. Come on,

Bay. Slow down Baylor. You got this Bay. And yeah. And then Baylor wins immunity. And Missy goes, that's my kid winning immunity. Are you anywhere further along on the path of Missy should have gotten a second chance?

Okay. Just checking. I feel like maybe everyone's... I just want to make sure I got the quote right. Tweets. Maybe tweets. Survivor tweets. They're better than Baylor balancing things with her feets.

Okay. Tweets. Yeah. Yeah. You got it. That's it. Yeah. You got it. That's it. That's the, they're better than Baylor balancing stuff with her feet.

Yeah. I said, picking up stuff with her feet, balancing things with her feet. Let's see. One more time. Baby tweets, five tweets,

better than Baylor balancing things with her feet, things with her feet, balancing things with her feet. Things with her feet. Balancing things with her feet. Skeets. That's what we want to see. Skeets. So, yeah, that's what happens. I feel like Baylor looks about as totally fine,

overwinning in immunity as anyone I've ever seen on this show. She kind of doesn't have any sort of, like, jubilant reaction. She's sort of just like, I can't believe I did it. And then Jeff just, you know, gives her the thing, and the day is won, and Reed really could have, Reed could have really

used that immunity necklace, but do you know who could have used it more? Jeremy? Yeah. Yeah. He won't. He could have have two in a row would have been nice for Jeremy, but ultimately, okay. Alas, Baylor has won immunity.

And so back at camp, Reed is saying, I did you post it? Have you posted posted, posted it? Did it not go? Oh, well,

you know what? Right now it's a blue Sky is like really toasted. There's a lot going on on Blue Sky right now. Y'all toast? Yeah. So maybe it's just going to take a quick little minute, quick little minute for the thing to show up. Yeah.

Okay. Anyway, so we've got Reed. I am going to light the camp on fire. Yeah. That's what he thinks he's going to do. That's what he thinks he's going to do. And he says, rule number one on Survivor, don't leave stuff in your bag if you don't want people to find it.

Yeah. What do we think of this? This is a good play on Reed's part. I don't know if it's necessarily like you idiot uh why did you leave the idol in your bag i don't know if it's quite like oh my god what a what a buffoon yeah but you know don't leave your bag where reed can get it uh and so reed just completely steals the idol. No. Now I think that this is a little bit of a fine line in the survivor rules about like,

I'd like, we can't steal an idol, but he can't steal the idol, but he kind of steals the parchment and does this like, Hey everybody, look at this, look at this. He does steal the parchment.

It's not kind of like that's outright theft. And he's like, Oh, I thought I was going into this bag and here I found this. And he has like, this is the idol note. And he tells Missy and Jacqueline about it. Yeah.

Now, there's a world in which he does this. He shows them the parchment and then he leaves the conversation. And Missy and Jacqueline, they don't go like, okay, so Reed's got an idol. Like, they don't do that at any point where they don't think. That Reed would say, look, I found this parchment and this is in this person's bag. This person has the idol. That's a smart move. I like that.

I feel like I would have to assume that there's a chance that that's his own idol parchment that he has from finding an idol of his own. No. Don't you have to take that into the calculus? Well, just that the way that the idols were hidden this season that you had to go to Exile Island to get the clue

to an idol and then so I don't know if they would even be plausible that Reed would have had the ability to get an idol. Do you know who did go to Exile? Josh. Josh. Yeah. But not recently. No. Yeah.

But he did go. Could have a thing. Okay. I think you gotta think about it. Keith also quickly realizes that his bag has been pampered with. Oh boy. It was in my blue jeans. and he he even drops a that's my stuff that's my stuff yeah my stuff that's my stuff her kid uh yeah he uh he does drop a a

james my stuff which uh is wonderful but here's where things start to really unravel for jeremy so jacklyn tells john about the idol paper and john's like oh this is not good yeah um because uh all right so keith has an idol but jeremy says i'm gonna go ask john is the worst liar. I'm going to ask John about what's going on. And Jeremy is quite correct. John is a bad liar. But then Jeremy maybe presses a little too hard here in that. Then John realizes, uh-oh, the gig is up. Yeah. Yeah. And he goes to like, oh, you just told me that I wouldn't have had to go. And it's goes to, uh, like, Oh, you should have just told me then.

Like I wouldn't have had to go. And it's so good that you found it. And then John's like, no, I would have been so good if I'd found it, but I didn't. Uh, and yeah, Jeremy like keeps pushing it. And eventually Jeremy like tells us in confessional, he's basically like, uh, I have to like still be mostly happy about this. And like, I don't know why he's being weird about it, but I guess it's his right to be weird about it. And anyway, we don't have to deal with this until the final six.

So it does just go to show that even 29 seasons into the show, we're still in an era here in this midsection of Survivor, like late middle age here. Maybe. I don't know what the end shelf is on this show, but at least like middle age right now that people are still like playing with the idea that I've got my squad

and we're going to be fine. We're going to be just fine. We don't have to deal with the goon squad of Keith, Wes, Alec, and Reed. Like we'll just knock them out and then the six of us will fight this thing to the death. That is not how this is going to ultimately go out uh but jeremy is clearly thinking in that direction but john gets spooked he gets real like like those crabs were shaky and scary uh but john

is shaken and scared right now uh and he's gonna go to missy and he's gonna say to missy i i need help mom help so all right so john is like okay oh this is bad uh jeremy knows about this uh and then she that he goes and tells bit uh missy about what's going on. She's like, okay, uh-huh, uh-huh, all right. And he's like, I got in trouble with Jeremy. Yeah. I got in big trouble with Jeremy, and he knows something. He's going to know that I have the idol,

because then he's asking a lot of questions. Was this enough of a decision? And we're going to talk about what I said 10 years ago, but it seems like that this is kind of like a panic move to vote out, flip around and vote off Jeremy because of this. Yes. This is like, like, like Jeremy and John have had an operation going.

They've been part of an operation. And the operation, not to steal too heavily from Australian Survivor, but was essentially like, we're going to be taking cookies out of this cookie jar. And we're going to be doing it together as a group. And what Jeremy has suspected is that John now has a means with which to secure additional cookies. And Jeremy, feeling like that will pay off at some point down the line, just lets John know like, hey, I know that you are able to get extra cookies. And then John is reacting like a kid whose big secret is about to be taken out.

And so he goes complaining to Missy. He goes complaining to mom. Says, you know, Jeremy's really thinking about taking some of those extra cookies. And she's like, well, that's not how I want to play. That's my cookie jar. I'm not playing that game. And she's going to,

she's going to show some favoritism towards John Misch. Yeah. I do think it was a panicked move. It was panicky. You can tell it's panicky because there's like no buildup. No buildup. At all. Yeah, we just go right to tribal council.

It's kind of like a, you know. It's a very shocking vote because the show doesn't give you a lot. Yeah, and maybe the players there did not say a lot because ultimately there ends up being five votes on Jeremy. This is a weird vote in terms of unpacking it. This is actually a five to three to two vote. There's three factions here.

There's John and Jacqueline, Baylor and Missy, and Reed vote for jeremy i don't know who looped in reed yeah i don't vote for jeremy that doesn't even come up we don't see it um then alec alec keith and wes vote for reed they're completely out of the loop they're on a different show they're voting for reed in this episode. And then Jeremy and Natalie, they think everybody else is voting with them. They're voting for Keith. Right. Reed

would have voted for Keith as well, potentially. Right? In this, because like, if those three guys are voting out Reed and deciding, so like, where's Reed's vote going? Probably wherever they tell him to vote. So maybe they just. So like, where's Reed's vote going? Probably wherever they tell him to vote. So maybe they just told him like, vote

Jeremy, you'll see another day. But I do think that that's risky. And I think maybe another way in which this like aligns nicely with the episode of Survivor 47 from this past week is like, I thought that like telling Rachel, why are we bothering telling Rachel about the Saul plan? You've got the numbers.

She doesn't need to know. And all hell breaks loose. And Saul ultimately does still end up going. But it caused all kinds of pandemonium that go all the way through tribal. And so I think even here, is Reed not in the Rachel spot? Did they need to tell Reed? They had four votes locked. There's going to be three guaranteed votes on Reed, it seems like.

And then these two guaranteed votes on Keith. And it doesn't really matter where Reed votes. Why are we letting Reed in on the secret? So I don't understand. Maybe Reed was just going to vote for Jeremy anyway. But why? This is out there in the exit press. You know, we're just not reading it

at this current moment in time. But these are questions that were on my mind watching the episode. Okay. Do you have the answers? I'm sure I can find them. I don't have them. Well, anyway,

so let's go to Tribal Council. In Tribal Council, it's, you know, we talk a little bit about the trading of the reward. Even Reed says, oh, but everybody knew what that was. And Jeremy and Natalie talking about like,

yeah, we're loyal. We're loyal to our allies. Yeah. Yeah. That's the plan is like, this is like, we've got like a very loyal thing going on and Reed at Tribal Council live

is just like, this sucks. And Jeff's like, right? And he's like, totally. Yeah. But he knows. Anything else from tribal council? No, it's a weird tribal.

It's a very weird tribal. There's like the sniping between John and the Wes and Alec contingent. And this is where Keith says, I'm afraid to talk to him. Keith, you can just talk to some of the girls. I don't know. And it's like all that stuff is such smokescreen, but not even like even like oh let's take advantage of the uh stuff going on with uh

if this is a great cover for us to be able to blindside a big threat in the game it just seems like this was that but jeremy's gonna know uh i had the idol and uh we gotta like get rid of jeremy but i just don't want to have to answer for that i don't want to deal with that right can we get rid of that uh and that's what they decide and like it's it's just very it's very surprising because we just have like very little build-up for it so it really does just like come as this sucker punch and really like natalie is the only one who gets to have sort of like an appropriate reaction which is as survivor fan points out what the f missy yeah appropriate appropriate reaction okay and uh jeremy the tribe is spoken okay so

jeremy goes out a big fan favorite and i I think that a lot of people are looking for Jeremy to return for a second chance, a very heroic spot here through nine episodes. Good guy lost. Yeah. Good guy lost. Yeah. That's what he says. And you know, it's, he's like out here in this season, uh, with a bunch of, you know, I don't want to say dummies, but people who are not like, you know, smartest survivor strategists of all time.

Sure. Yeah. Uh, yeah, I think that he, I don't know. Like what does he learn? What does he learn from this San Juan del sor experience that buffs him up for a winning

season just two seasons later yeah i don't know i just uh think back to when you spoke to jeremy before he went into second chance that he was just very like calm and zen and relaxed and loose about it and i don't understand how he went from this to that so i think part of it uh my memory of of jeremy during um the second chance preseason is absolutely that we've talked about that already here on uh on uh stan wandel sir uh of jeremy just like feeling like pretty ready and just like uh with like this really relaxed attitude about it and i think if I'm remembering it right, part of that was like, you really get to play survivor.

Like this one in a once in a lifetime game is called a once in a lifetime. If you're even lucky to get that once to get the once in a lifetime experience twice is insanity. And to do it with like this, like veritable gladiators arena of competitors i think was like this other thing that must have been like both exciting and also like an opportunity so i think like going into that season like on the other side of like you know same one del sur as much as i love it is like it's like populated by like an absurd assortment of human beings and not to say that any season of survivor isn't populated by an absurd assortment of human beings. And not to say that like any season of Survivor isn't populated by an absurd assortment of human beings.

But typically there's a good chunk of them that can play really well. And San Juan del Sur's gameplay is maybe not the reason why that season is great. But what is he bringing from having failed there to a season that's filled with like people who are really hungry to win it? I don't know. I think there's something to be learned. I'd also say that I think he's also mentioned that like not playing with Val, like he doesn't have to worry about that. He's only have to worry about himself.

He doesn't have to worry about his wife being taken care of or how she's doing. I think was also something that made him a little bit more relaxed. And maybe he just felt good about the people that are there of like, hey, look, all these people here, they watch my game. They know what I'm about. Like I'm not being targeted, you know, from the jump.

A lot of these players want to work with me. I feel good about the players that are out here. And so maybe he was going in a little bit more loosey goosey. Yeah, I think so. I think so.

All right. But let's talk back about what did we discuss back in the 10 years, uh, prior? Yes. Yes. Uh, so what was it like on know it all night? The night that Jeremy, yeah. Who do you think got the fishy tonight? Read? Well, there was quite a debate between rob and steven over uh who should be uh the who should get the fishy and whether this was a good move steven was very much in the camp that this was a good move from john john gets the fishy award rob said no i don't like this move not not a good move uh what are you doing and steven uh according to uh we josh green and danielle mathis who uh do these write-ups uh josh cites that steven kept bringing up how

tony took swings at his allies at the right time before his allies could get him and said that he was looking at John through a Tony Blachos glasses. Wow. And also that Josh adds Rob was not giving John that much credit. Yeah. Ironically, then Jeremy would play with Tony both in survivor winners at war and in the trader season three.

That's true. Yes. That's still coming which is gonna be i i just recently uh revisited uh it was like being shared around the clip from winners at war of jeremy and tony talking about how many days there are in a week yeah uh very good stuff their dynamics very fun i'm looking forward to seeing that again for sure yeah um yeah uh i don't know i mean this doesn't ultimately like long-term benefit john but jeremy's a dangerous player and they get him out here so it really is like from whose perspective i guess um what do you think about

this now like was there a better path moving forward for John and Jacqueline than taking Jeremy out now? I think that... Just like be chill for a couple of votes and try and like wait down the line? Well, that for Jeremy, I'm sorry, for John and Jacqueline, that John, I think that maybe there's a tug of war over Missy, but I think that John and Jacqueline, maybe there's a tug of war over Missy, but I think that John and Jacqueline at the end of the day, Missy and Baylor are going with John and Jacqueline, I believe.

Yeah. So they, they have, uh, that, you know, they have the numbers and I don't think that I know Reed is such a like hired gun at that point, but I don't think that Jeremy and Natalie are pulling in like Keith and

West to vote with them to vote out John and Jacqueline. So, yeah, I guess it does help to be able to split up Missy and Baylor. And really, I guess how big of a threat are Keith and Nail and Wes and Alec? Yeah, they're not. They're not. So I, I, I can see the wisdom of taking out Jeremy,

but that the logic behind, okay, he, he knows I have the idol. So he has to go with this particular spot. Like to me, it was just a little bit more of like a panic move than it was like he, if John was giving us confessionals of like, all right,

well, I'm taking out Jeremy because you know that i need to split up him and natalie like he didn't like give us reasons and maybe he had them and he didn't want to tell them for the producers for whatever reason but it just seemed like oh i got a hand with my hand in the cookie jar so the easiest way for me to get out of this is to now just vote out jeremy yeah just kill him get rid. Yeah. So that's what he goes for. It works out for Jeremy longterm. Sure.

Yep. Okay. Um, anything from your conversation with Jeremy? I can't find it. Uh, I've, I've found,

uh, Mike Bloom's winners at war profile, uh, with, with Jeremy on parade. And I have found my Cambodia interview with Jeremy at Parade. But I cannot seem to find my original interview with him.

Did I not talk to him? No way. Maybe you had something going on. Maybe I had something going on. I never, ever, ever would have stonewalled Jeremy Collins. Can I give you a ever would have stonewalled Jeremy Collins. Can I give you a spicy quote from Jeremy? Yeah.

Okay. Okay. According to Danielle, Jeremy said Missy is not good at picking men in her life, and John is another example of that. Wow. Get him. Get him.

Missy probably feels great about that. Jeremy is not my guy. That's John. Yeah. My man. Okay. Yeah. All right.

Wow. And then you asked him to do it. These guys are so dumb and it got locked into soundboard and you know, Jeremy decently. Well, you've hung out and interacted with Jeremy. You've never had an opportunity to get like a cleaner crisper

podcast ready. Like I think maybe now is a good time to next time to do it. Yeah. Okay. All right. Oh, someone says the title of your interview to do it to get it cleaned up. Okay. All right. Um, Oh,

someone says that the title of your interview is called eastbound and surround and drown. I did all sorts of weird stuff back then, man. And not that I'm not doing weird stuff now, but I had a weird, it was all weird, man. I don't know what a little bit of a stretch.

Yeah. You think a little bit. Okay. Uh, then we, it was Clark week. I had Sophie Clark on the podcast. A little bit of a stretch. Yeah. You think? A little bit. Okay. Then it was Clark week. I had Sophie Clark on the podcast and then Kurt Clark on the voicemail. Till 2 Clarks. For Clark week. And it was Sophie's fifth time on the podcast.

And Sophie was talking about how she's not totally feeling the season. Yeah. I told Sophie about how I am really looking forward to her going back on Survivor. Yes, and what did she say? I said I think she gets it very well when she goes back.

Oh yeah, he talks about in the Exit interview that John Misch would go around singing Disney songs. Do you remember this? Yes, I remember. Yeah.

That's it. So he, he knows every word in every Disney song. He changes up his demeanor for every character in every Disney song. Jeremy says, I'm like, that's crazy. And he doesn't even have kids.

There's no way he's dating Miss Michigan. This is a big lie. Yes. Okay. He thought it was making up a personality. He does have a kid now. So he's ready now. Yeah.

Yeah. But then Jacqueline went up to Jeremy and said, he's going to be a good father. And Jeremy said, whoa, that's what this is. This is John. This is legit. That's really cute. That's a really fun anecdote, actually. that's what this is. This is John. This is legit. That's really cute. That's a really fun anecdote, actually. I like that a lot.

Also, likable guy. I don't know. He's adorable. So, Josh, also this week in Survivor history, 10 years ago, the Survivor, I don't know if it was Instagram or Twitter account, was holding some kind of a poll. Okay. They won. This is a little weird. Okay. They were a little thirsty

for their 30th season. It's just our 30th season. They asked fans to vote for the hottest male and hottest female. Whoa. This was 2014. Of all Survivor? Yeah. Or of San Juan del Sur. There was 2014. Of all Survivor? Yeah. Or of San Juan del Sur.

There was a vote of who is the hottest Survivor guy and the hottest Survivor gal. I think I remember this. I don't... I want to... You're looking at the results, aren't you? I am.

I'm not like leering, right? No, I'm not saying you're leering at the results. I'm saying you're looking at the results, aren't you? I am. You see them. I'm not like leering, right? Yeah. No, I'm not saying you're leering at the results. I'm saying you're looking at them. Humminah, humminah, humminah, humminah. I don't think you're leering. Yes. Is it Parvati?

Did Parvati get it? Parvati is in the top 10. Wasn't Amber in the top 10? She is number 10. Yeah. Yeah. She is number 10. Yeah.

Wanda? Nope. No Wanda. Yeah. Amanda? Amanda is number four on the list. Okay. Here, I'll share it.

Because Survivor quotes shared. I guess I'm just trying to remember. They also had a page about like some favorite players and i guess it was a fan vote and and the podcast listeners i don't think i campaigned for it but i think that the podcast listener must have voted for me and then i saw like a lot of like yes i remember posting of this people being like oh ew why rob c really it's very annoying. And then, you know what? It wasn't even better on Blue Sky. Here you go.

Top 10 hottest survivor women. Amanda. Parvati. Morgan. Amanda. Here's Whitney Duncan. Whitney Dunks. Whitney Duncan, who also stood me up for an amazing race exit interview this week in the history.

Yeah, I remember. Candice Cody. Candice Woodcock Cody. Chelsea Meisner, who's gone on to a lot of fame. Amy Cusack. Elizabeth. Elizabeth Falarski-Hasselbeck. Elizabeth Falarski-Hasselbeck.

And Amber. And Amber. So curious. So curious. So are you curious to know about the top 10 guys? Yes. You have that available as well. Is it Malcolm at the top? Yeah.

Let me see. Uh, top one, top 10 hottest guys. Um, okay. Um, I, okay.

Let's hear it for the boys guys. Okay. Yeah. Chase Rice, John Cody. Yeah. Jay Byers, Aris.

Yep. Hayden. Yep. Woo. Uh huh. LJ. Yep. Ozzy.

Yeah. The Kolbster. The Kolbster. And Malcolm. And Malcolm. And Malcolm. And Malcolm. And Malcolm. Yep.

I'm most curious about who's in those DMs of yours. Who's in my DMs? You've got two. Let me see. Only reveal it if it's worth revealing. Yeah, it's not worth revealing. Okay, all right. Okay.

Pretty boring. What does Nicole think of Jay Byers today, 10 years later? I think she'd be like, who? Yeah. Could she pick Jay Byers out of a lineup? Yeah. I don't think so. All right.

Yeah. Could you test that on an upcoming Five for Five? Yeah. Could you show sort of like, here's like a lineup which one of these survivor guys is Jay Byers yeah what's he doing what is he doing anyway

so next week Natalie will begin her big end run it starts famously stick to the plan next week yes yes Wesley was a good And run. And famously, stick to the plan next week. Yes, yes. Wesley was a good boy, but

that's about to be ballgame. Oh, we got spitting and nuggets next week? The good news is we got nuggets on the way. Should we order chicken nuggets for the pod? You can. Yeah, do you want me to? How many nuggets will you eat on the podcast i mean

already done this bit oh right yeah yeah yeah i don't want it i don't want to infringe upon a bit i don't want to infringe upon anyone's bit okay bits i don't want to infringe on anyone's bits all right okay josh yep what's coming up for you? Oh my gosh. Lots going on. We know scripted tv.com. That's where you get all of the great scripted TV podcasts here on RHAP. We're talking Dune. That's me and Taryn and Grace, the tastemakers. Taryn and Grace are talking to all kinds of TV every single week.

We've got silo coverage. If you're a fan of that show on Apple TV Plus, we also are doing a road to season two of Severance podcast on weknowseverance.com and getting ready to unlock some of those memories. So we just started that podcast, having a good time there. This past weekend on the weekend program with myself and Antonio Mazzaro,

we weighed in on Survivor 47 here at the midpoint. So if you want some Survivor talk from myself and Antonio about the latest season, you should subscribe to the weekend program at theweekendprogram.com because we just did that thing and had a really good time doing it other than that i'm on blue sky at round howard patiently waiting well i did so here's what again i don't want to like the beloved blue sky not so i

i made my thing it's showing up as a reply not as a post it's a reply did you accidentally reply to somebody nope no weird it's only show it's only showing up as a reply not as a post so we're gonna have to trouble with this we're gonna troubleshoot everybody can you hold your phone up to the screen i just want to see it real quick what does it look like what's happening on it zero posts zero posts replies there is no at is it because i use the hashtag does that make it a reply i don't think so are you getting does anyone see it have you gotten a single like on it nope no like wow ruthless brutal horrible horrible horrible back to twitter horrible brutal back to single like on it? Nope. No likes. Ruthless. Brutal. Horrible. Horrible. Horrible. Back to Twitter. Horrible. Brutal.

Back to Twitter. Back in the pile. We almost claimed Rob's first skeet here on Stan Wondell. You can find me on Twitter. I am at Rob Sestranino. And as you're on your way out on Twitter, he is at Rob Sestranino on

Blue Sky. You will be there when he skeets for the first time. Maybe I'm shadow banned. Maybe I'm shadow banned on Blue Sky. It's not impossible that you were put on one of those various block lists that I subscribed to. And maybe I just can't

read your skeets. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what the issue is there. But also, Josh, if you are so willing, I'd't know. I don't know what the issue is there. Um, but also, uh, Josh, if you are so willing, yeah, I'd like to also propose that next week for the podcast, we also watch the two and a half men episode in which, uh,

Jeff probes guest stars also to tie it all together with bacon. Yes. Yes. Yes. Uh, I'll forego the chicken nuggets and see how many BLTs I can eat on the podcast next week. Yeah.

Or just like, you know, tray bacon. Just because that's what it is, right? He shows up with a tray of bacon over his junk. Covering his naughty bits. Yeah, your naughty bits. Yeah, over his nuggets.

Yep. All right. Thank you so much for joining us. Take care, everybody. Have a good one. Yeah. Over his nuggets. Yep. All right. Thank you so much for joining us. Take care, everybody. Have a good one. Bye.