RHAP: We Know Survivor - The Boys of 45 Reunite for Survivor 45 Encore Episode

Episode Date: February 19, 2026

The Boys of 45 Reunite for Survivor 45 Encore Episode Today, Brandon Donlon welcomes Austin Li Coon, Jake O’Kane, Drew Basile, and Bruce Perreault onto the podcast to discuss the encore episode of Survivor 45. Never miss a minute of RHAP’s extensive Survivor coverage! LISTEN: Subscribe to the Survivor podcast feed WATCH:  Watch and subscribe to the podcast on YouTube SUPPORT:  Become a RHAP Patron for bonus content, access to Facebook and Discord groups plus more great perks!

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Visit medcan.com slash moments to get started. What is going on, everybody? We are back with another episode of the Survivor Encore episode Recaps. We've got a special one because it's Boys Night. I wasn't at the last Boys Night. But when I get into the Boys Night, it's because I invited everybody here. We're all drinking. We're having fun.

And we're talking episode 12 of Survivor 5. Oh, my gosh. Go around here. I'll tell you who's here. And then we'll get into it. I'm just looking at who's on my screen. You may have seen this guy on your screen more recently than tonight when the episode's playing but on Jeopardy tournament a champion is that right?

It was the Jeopardy Internet or Invitational tournament JIT. The invitational. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Drew Bacios here. Drew, how are you? Doing great, doing great. Technically they call it like the Jit. I don't like to say that. It feels like, it sounds like a dangerous word, Jit, you know, but that's what they call it.

But I was on there recently. That's right. And it's great to be back with the boys, though, my one true reality TV family. Yes. There you go, denouncing, denouncing Jeopardy. Those guys don't seem like they're nearly as fun to hang out. I must say, like from the Jeopardy that I've watched, it looks like a tough hang. Dude, there are some great ones, but like the better they are in jeopardy,

like the higher in certain ways like the power level is, you know, sometimes it's just like communicating with an E.T. So it's good to be back on Earth with the fellows. Wait, have you been James Holzhauer? I'm not. I love that guy. That guy's sick. Bruce my favorite of the Lialium, though.

Oh, yeah, he's great. well we've got also fresh off of a trip to hawaii with the fam it's austin lecun austin how are you well i'm doing great i missed the memo on the drinks i i should have known it's boys night like what am i thinking i i just i feel like a fool but oh everybody has a drink everybody you go get one dude oh my god this is no like four i have time to run down and grab a drink or is that is that crazy all right well while bruce and jake are introing i'll be back in a minute We'll be here. There you go.

We've got fresh off a Super Bowl appearance, not playing, but observing. It's Bruce Perup. Bruce, how are you? Well, ladies and gentlemen, see those of peaches, played as bad as they did. All they had to do was just asked me to go on the field, and I wouldn't have made it look any worse. I think I would have made it look a little bit better.

I would install something. Man, listen, I am doing good. I'm having a good time. This life is short, but it's well lived. So, yes, I'm ready to get into it with my voice here, I haven't seen everybody in the same room like this in a long time. So let's make it happen. And we've got one more.

Bruce's little line where his name is says, why not me? But I'm always saying, why not Jake? It's Jake O'Kane. Jake, how are you? I'm doing great. Happy to be here. Happy to relive some Boys' Night memories.

There we go. Austin's back. All right. We should cheer. Here, gentlemen. Here we go. Look at that. All right, everybody.

Hell yeah. Happy boys night. There we go. Happy boys night. Woo! I love it. I love it. And I love Survivor 45 episode 12, which I rewatched today.

Not required viewing to rewatch, but everybody listening to this will have seen it within hours. So I want to ask Bruce, before this episode even starts, Emily has just been voted out. You were the one that witnessed it at Ponderosa, Emily's homecoming. I'd love to hear about that from you. Well, I saw Emily. She came through to Ponderosa, and I gave her a big hug, and she's like, I'm so sorry. I'm like, no, there's no need to be sorry.

None of this stuff. Like, you're perfectly fine. Everything's good. Love you. And then we went on and did our thing, you know, Ponderosa and enjoy the rest of the time we had. That's the only positive thing that I'm going to say about this whole BS

because right now I do think that they should. Emily is in season 50. Why are we putting on an episode where she's already gone? I'm sorry, I'm getting loud. I'm going to calm down because I'll know. I was like, oh, okay. Like, let's, people, let's figure this out.

Like, every other episode we've seen so far, the people that are in 50, they're on the episode. Why? Like, play mine. That would be awesome. She convinced me not to play my freaking idol. Play that one. Episode what?

10? Jake, fill me in. I don't know. I'm sad. I think that's 10. Like, play my episode so that you. can see her mastermind is getting me to do something that I didn't want to do. All right? So anyway, that's all I got.

Well, you know, it is the only episode out of the 10 encore episodes that somebody is on season 50 that is not actively playing the episode. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. I believe it's the only one. It's a weird choice. And even, not even your boot, Bruce, it's the episode after. Where Emily leaves, I feel like was just like a slam dunk of an episode to throw in here.

But we're not watching that one. Yeah. You know, I, I, I, I, I just when go watch it. I will say this, uh, I, this was a tough rewatch. Um, and I don't think there's anyone who might be, uh, you know, more upset at this being the, the selected episode than me except maybe Drew as well. Um, in Emily, perhaps. But, uh, but, but yeah, you know, I also was like, there's literally any other episode episode to pick.

any other episode. And, you know, this one was, this one was one of them. What a fucking kicking the teeth. I mean, like, you know, I get my ass beat two weeks a row on Jeopardy. And then I'm like, okay, we're done with TV. And then little do I get this text for Brandon Donald. Like, oh, your boot. We got to do this podcast.

Like my boot. Like the worst moment in my life just for kicks, you know? It's like, it's like, ugh. Like, I don't know. this is terrible. So, you know, this really was a bad. I mean, I'm glad that we all could be here to commiserate because this is just, this is just not what I needed.

Jake looked great this episode. This is a good episode. I was the best Jake episode. Say that until Austin said it. But yeah, no, it was a good episode for me. For the most part. They made it look better than I think it actually was. No, no, no.

That was so fun. Watson, you could do that idle hunt again. Good times. They slighted you by not putting in the news. your voice, man. I know. I turned that off at South Park. That was a South Park joke.

What's the South Park? Do the South Park joke? We were like doing, like, what was I doing? Like some kind of like radio host? Oh, great night at Takuwaka. Great, therefore, great day for the world or something like that. Like, it's a South Park joke. It's like, yeah.

It's like an episode where like Canada's basically remaking the Royal Wedding. Yeah, come on. You can do it for us. Oh, I'm trying. I don't know. The voice. Great taste. This is 5 of 45.

Now I'm making an Australian. I don't know why I'm making Australian. And the funniest was when you, when you did the whole Kelly boot in that voice at tribal council. Oh yeah. Kelly was loud. That was great. That was funny.

I thought that was like a D strategy where she's like, oh, go talk shit about Kelly in front of her face. Like you were doing earlier. I was like, that was funny. Yeah, no. They edited it all out. But I think it was like the last five days maybe it was like doing a funny,

voice. We were making production laugh too, so that was fun. This is one of those things they don't tell you about Survivor that by the end of the game, just psychically you're so worn down that probably half the cast starts talking in a funny voice in any given season. You know? Like Jake was doing

the newscaster thing. I was doing like I was, I don't know. It's just one of those hazards of the game. You know, this crew famously has the Boys Night segment where they play Kenny Loggins and you're doing all your, whatever you were doing. Talk more

about, like, because the four of you, I don't think have been in one of these since then, but what was that? What else was going on there? What didn't we see about the boys night? What didn't we see? I mean, it was just the best night ever. That whole day was just so long. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. The elder in the room is

going to be like, okay, Fiji Boys' Night was kind of like our Vegas, right? We can't talk about everything that we did. We can reference some fun but we can't talk about everything that we talked about because, you know, it was our Vegas.

If we wanted to bulge more, please feel free. I'm going to put an asterisk somewhere. That's what I said. But I just want to make sure that we all understand that, you know, we are a bunch of red-blooded men who are out there. We're chatting. We're chatting.

We're having a good time. I will tell you this. Listen, You see the underlying thing that I'm doing, I drew your wicked spot, bro. But it was, I don't know, it was a damn good time. It was really, you know, lay our hair down a little bit. You know, no pun intended. I was like, you know, suck my head curly.

But we had, we just had a good time. We had fun. And, you know, if it was all of us on a tribe, I think that it would have, it would have been a completely different scenario because we all bonded in such a way. And it's something that's kind of cool because it transcended that outside of the game. Like we saw, we all saw each other out of Tennessee. And it was like, you know, it was like,

it's like guys that I've grown up with my entire life. So, and they weren't even alive for half of my life. So it is what it is. Yeah. Yeah, it's just such a special moment. I mean, it's one where it's just like the game was put to the side. We were on like two opposing sides. And I think we all kind of knew, like,

we're not going to be flipping the script with this crew. like let's just hang out and like actually enjoy our times together because we all liked each other a lot we were just you know put on different sides of the beach until that point really and and it was just the time just enjoy each other hang out eat good food is so fun i've never been so happy to lose reward like looking back like not in the moment it sucks to lose the reward but like out of all the ones you could have lost like that was a good time yeah i mean like the farther i get out from survivor the less I remember of most of the experience, you know, like there are episodes that are just total blikes for me. And Boys Night becomes clear and clear with time. Like I, the other

day, I was, you know, doing the Jeopardy thing. And they were asking me, like, what was the best like moment of Survivor? I was like, Boy's Night, one of the best moments of my life. You know, it just, it really, it's like, it is the defining event from the season that I hang on to. It was great. Wow. Wow. Look at that. What a nice thing. And I, if I have this correct, Did you all watch that episode together? Is that right? Were you all in the same place? Where was the next one?

This one, the one that we just, the episode 12, your boot. Was everybody in Nashville for that? Is that right? That was the Emily Boot. Oh, that was the Emily Boot. Which one was the NOLA one? That was Emily. That was the Emily Boot was Nol.

But then the week, your boot drew, I thought you guys were all in. Oh. I would go down. I wasn't awesome. No, I wasn't there. But I think the three of you guys were all there, right? I was there. Nashville for that one, yeah. So we weren't.

I was in Nashville for that. Yeah. Huh. Well, I will say, I did have a party for that episode. And the whole bar went nuts with the idol thing. I was happy that I threw one for that one. That was a good time. Have you, Jake, watched this since it came out? Have you,

have you gone back and watched the full episode? No, I don't, you know, it's funny. I've actually started rewatching 45 recently, and I'm just not there yet. But no, so no. I've seen the clips playback in various things, but I've not watched the whole episode. What are you noticing on a rewatch? Anything different than the first time? Not really. I mean, it's, I mean, maybe a good memory or what. Nothing's really sticking out to me,

but it is funny, like, how you see somethings play out, and it's like, that's out of order, this is out of order. I'm getting reminded of that, like, one of the things, like, with this episode specifically, like, I think they show me finding the idle clue and everything, while Austin, Katara, and D are on reward. I actually found it with everyone there. And like, there just something shown out of order is what I noticed. Earlier in the day, you found it before everybody, before the reward challenge? No, I think it was a different.

It may be, no, no, no, they had already gotten back. It was like, it was at the beginning of the day or the end of the day, I forget. Probably beginning a day. Is it an awesome how this just messes with us? Like, you sit there and you have, and it's, the worst part of the time when this affects us the most and we're the more, I don't want to say

this in a negative way, but when we're the most deranged in regards to this beautiful game that we played is when we first come out of the game because we're like, this is how things are supposed to go, this is how it went la-da-da-a-da-a-l. Like we have all of our ideas and then all of a sudden those ideas get shot straight to shit when we start talking to people. Well, no, that's not really the case.

And then we go back and we watch it. and then we were reminded, okay, of the conversation that we had when we left, the conversation that we've had, because we all talked to each other. So it was a conversation that we've had over the course of months, and then all of a sudden I was seeing it on television. So it's like, okay, so now that makes sense, but that's out of order, like Jake just said, but it's like, hold on a second. Am I losing my marbles?

Because I don't remember that being, did that happen? And then you get so discombivorated, we end up like Jake, because I did the same thing the other day talking to somebody. When I did it, like, was that before? Was that after? It's like everything just kind of gets mumbled, jumble, around and it's it's just the effect so then you're watching the show and you're like oh okay maybe

that's how it happens who cares I find like I can separate what happened on what beach but like when you're at like that merge beach for a long time that stuff I definitely like out of order like Bellow Beach out of order I mean it's three years ago now that's crazy I know we're old

we're actually old era now I mean oh my God time flies you know that's crazy this episode is this is one of the few episodes of the new era to have an old era-esque style reward with the helicopter and the picnic and what have you. My question about the helicopter, Drew,

is you say that the only time you've ever been in a helicopter, you threw up. That line made the show. Did I say that in the episode? Yeah, it's in the episode. No, this is a great story. Yeah, please. So it was my little brother's birthday.

It was a 10th birthday. So I was like 12 at this point, or maybe 13. And he was like, I want to go in a helicopter. That's my, that's only I want for my birthday. And we're like, well, that's fucking, you know, how are we going to own a helicopter It turns out? You can get like a recreational helicopter tour. Like, and it's not that much money.

Like, you guys can, you viewers, you could go out and do it like for like 100 bucks. So we were like, okay, we'll do the helicopter tour. And then we get up and they're like taking us over all the lakes and they go to like the rich part of town. Like, this is where Eminem lives. This is where the Fords live. And we're like swerving around to get a bit of view. And I just, it doesn't feel good, you know?

And then I had to get the barf bag. And then, you know, it was just, once it started, it was like a fire hose. So we had to land. So somebody said to say, I was glad not to him, you know, made the helicopter reward for that one. Oh, all right. That was a wicked fun challenge. I'm remembering that challenge now. That was rolling on the barrels, right?

The barrels. That was such a fun challenge. I was wicked fun. I'm surprised I haven't done that again. Like, I just wanted to run it again for fun. That was any, I think that challenge, like all of us while doing it, we're just like, oh, this is so fun. so cool, like swinging around. I just remember on that helicopter when we had to go in front of the beach and like they're all screaming at you all, like you two and Julie sitting on the beach,

like watching us. And they did it three times, three loops, just screaming. And I'm just like, this is literally the worst thing that could happen right now. This is horrible. I felt so bad. Is it more annoying on the first, second or third time as a person witnessing? the helicopter in the sky, which which time is the most enraging, do you think? Oh, I think it got worse over time. They thought worse over time. After they went the first time, we were the second time,

we were like, we're not going to do it. Like, and then the closer got, we were like, okay, well, let's go look. And I was like, God damn, and if they come back to third time, we're not fucking looking, okay? I remember like, everybody's staying here. And then we can hear it in the distance.

And it's getting louder and it's getting louder. And it's like a prisoner dilemma situation. We're all looking at each other. And eventually, you know, Julie is, this is the Julie breakout. So she's like, I'm going to go look. And so then I'm just sitting here like, wow, am I going to be the schmuck?

It's like, it refuses to go. So then, you know, we all broke. But yeah, the third time was the worst, I would say. It's truly commiliation. It's funny because, like, in the episode, I think, like, they're showing like, oh, this sucks. And I'm like, ah, it's not that bad, whatever. But I think by the third time, I'm like,

you know what, Drew, you're right. It does suck. This is fucking the worst. Oh. They all showed, like, the first time we go out. No, and it's like, you know, like, Austin, Austin, Austin, D are on the helicopter, and Gator is coming along, you know. It's like, it's like, it's like missing out on Valentine's Day.

And we're like, you know, we didn't get the date. And it's like all the, all the people on Valentine's Day, they're like flying around, like, hi, how are you doing? It just, you know, it wasn't nice. Because I picked who went on that, like, they didn't care if they were screaming at you guys down there making a big scene. It just looked bad for me. It just, I was just, oh, I wish you were there too.

I didn't think it looked bad for you. You know, I understand feeling that way, but it wasn't like, oh, screw Austin. Yeah. I was, I'll tell you this, though, I was enjoying my coronas. I was enjoying my coronas and my meals that were amazing at that point in time. No. What are you doing? We ran out of, like, spices at that point, too.

Oh, the little peppers? Yeah, we were running out of, like, salt pepper and, like, the chili flakes or whatever. Mm. From that fish reward, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just as when we started to run out. At one point in the episode, you can see Julie chopping up that little pepper guy. That was in there.

But it looks like it was a very, very small pepper, you know, segment. On that reward, Austin, they show your backstory. You got the braces on that reward. You know, that as tough as this whole episode was as a rewatch, that was the hardest part for me. That was the part. I literally like closed the laptop. And then I came back like 16 hours later. I was like, this is so bad.

Because first of all, like, I never thought they were going to put anything like that into the show. Because I was like, I was thinking back because I didn't realize that everyone kind of like got a backstory package if you're like in the finale episode or whatever. And like, I was just like, yeah, they're just not going to show mine. It's not a big deal. Like I never really gave them much on the island about it. And then they just put together this just humiliating like. like just like I don't even know

I know I watching it once was far far too many times I can't believe I had to watch it a second time for this but yeah we can we can ask Amanda is that what did it for

maybe she was indeed by that the what we should ask Amanda maybe she was indeed by that moment maybe maybe it got you a lot of ground bro yeah maybe you should ask you should ask

I'll ask you see a kid embraces in your late Like, yeah, you know what? This kid, he turned out good. He turned out. Well, no, no, it's not even the braces thing. Everybody loves the ugly duckling.

I'm pretty sure they took those interviews from like day one to like early on, like early days when I just kind of talk about it because I never was asked about it later on. And like, I remember as a season went on, I was like, wait, like they might want to use a backstory thing. I got to be ready to like give them some good sound bites. And I just never got that opportunity. So I feel like I would have done better if I was if I knew that these are the ones that were going to be played, I wouldn't have just given them like a, all right, let's just

boss over this. Let's get into the strategy. You know, I would have spent a good amount of time making sure I got some good sound bites. It didn't sound pathetic. But, oh, well. Oh, well. Well, yeah, Jake, you, oh, go ahead.

I was going to say, what made it worse, too, was that it was, like, played right after Kuturas, who genuinely had my worst-back stories. That was a good backstory. No one was beating that. Caddo's backstory was pretty solid. Like, it's more like, that is a old timer. And then mine comes up and it's like, who the, who the hell is this guy? Like you, Jake, right after the reward segment, you have, you know, is this, when you consider like your survival moments, is this in the top three?

Is this like the big, what do you call this for you? Oh, fine in the idol? Yeah. Yeah, that was cool. Like, I mean, it's a bucket list thing. And then it was, you know, I feel like out of the things that people like say like they bring up that like, like, finding the idol in my underwear whole monologue thing. People think is funny.

But yeah, that was a huge, that was so sick, man. You know what I mean? Like, it sucked when Bruce found one earlier because I was right there and he found it. And that really kind of like pissed me off. Yeah. And so it was, it was cool. And the whole like getting the clue is also fun. Yeah.

You go in the treasure hunt. Bruce, what do you remember about finding your idol? What was that moment like with Jake right there for you? well you know what jake kissed my entire ass the simple fact of the matter is is that i'm literally sitting there i looked down and i can see it and i did a little look up and he's within three feet there's no way and what i remember what i was wearing there's no way i could put that of my pants and just kind of not be obvious so i just stood up and went like this and i got it so but then what got me jacob was when you said on the

show, if I find it, I'm not going to tell Bruce. Well, something along the lines of that, I'm like, too shay, my friend, because, yes, like, there's nothing saying I didn't find it, so it's not mine. I probably still would have lost my damn vote. But, like, the gameplay was there. So I appreciated that part of it, which is great. But when I found mine, it was just, it was a pretty clear and concise more thing because you win individual immunity at some point.

That everybody wants to do that. Everyone wants to find an idol. And I've been watching for, you know, 20-some odd years just watching people get idols and stuff like that and been sitting down on the television telling people, yo, it's right there. Open your eyes. Turn around.

You know, and it's, you have the ability to do it. And I remember, like, you know, I put my hand up and, like, straight down is here. And I'm digging and digging and digging. I'm super fine. Like, where the hell is this thing? And then what actually made me feel really cool or feel good was that everybody was willing to kind of be a lookout.

I didn't know Jake was trying to rob me, but anyway, everybody was being a lookout. So with that being the case, it's like, that kind of helped out too. Like, you know, it gives you a little bit more of a boost in,

in regards to wanting to find it. And then when you do, it just makes it special. So, I will say, but I can't, I'm sorry, but I could say that

there are some people that can find out of that shit goes straight to the head. It never went, like, I didn't put in my head, like I was shit about it. Like, I was happy that I got it.

But I wasn't walking around like, man, yeah, everybody knows they got an idol. Look at me. Big Nuts. You do that all the time. That is me all the time. But it's not, not, I didn't exasperate it because I got it, I found it.

Bruce, what is this big nuts thing? I've never heard this before. Is this something you guys say in Boston? Is this like Wicked? No, I've never heard Big Nuts thing. No. Stick around. I got so.

I mean, it's stupid. I will say, though, dude, when I found the clue, I was wearing your shirt and it was like the roots of the tree. Like, you know, those trees they had. had like the roots going into the ground and they were kind of exposed at the top. Yeah. Same spot. So I was like looking in that general vicinity when I found the clue.

I brought so much to this game. You're welcome, Jay. Season 44, people wear my clothes. Stay warm the entire time invoking my spirit. Season 45, finding shit because I left stuff behind. Like, you're welcome. That's not what I said. I just said we was in the same shit.

Jake, I didn't play in my island and you didn't go home. So shut up. You're welcome. I didn't notice, Jake, that you were wearing the Bruce shirt. Now I'm thinking about, I was like, where did he get that shirt? But that's the Bruce shirt. Yeah, it was like a blue polo shirt. I gave it back to you, I think, right?

Uh, no. You don't have it, really? We're going to find it. Jake, you got to hear the invoice is coming in the mail for this. Do you guys still have your survivor outfits? It's like, somewhere. I'm wearing the other pants right now, baby. Wait.

The famous red underwear. Are you kidding me? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I'm just kidding. I'm not. I don't have any. I can sure you drop my underwear,

and it is legit my fucking, my survival underwear. I swear to God, I still have. Right now you're wearing your survivor. Right now you're wearing it to it? There you go. Someone will verify that. Why would they do that?

What? I don't know anything. I don't know. I still wear the survivor underwent. I still wear the survivor underwent. Really? Yeah. Yeah.

I gave like that $50 to that fucking underwear. I mean, I'm not throwing that. It was like a premium underwear. The underwear that they recommend for guys is good. I will say that. Sacks? You sacks, guys? Yeah.

It's good. It better be good. Can I tell an anecdote of I met Bianca Rose's from season 48 of Survivor? And I meet her and she's like, my brother needs to tell you something. And I'm like, okay. And we're at an event with her family for the premiere. And I go up to a brother, we're talking. He's like, oh, my God.

like hold on and then he just unzips his pants he's like taking his pants up and i'm like you know normally there's a get to know you before we we get to this and then he showed he's like i have your underwear that you wore on survivor like i have the same pair of them he's like i wore them because i knew you'd be here and i was like oh we could have if you say it that's fine to say it before we you know he's gonna have picked a shirt you know so we have the same underwear and then we have a we have a picture where we're both you know kind of you know that is fun now he might listen to this My wife accidentally washed a pair of the pants from 44 when I got hurt.

My wife accidentally washed them because they've never been washed. You're not going to roast Belinda for watching. Usually you wash the underwear though, Bruce, right? I mean. The underwear, I scrubbed that. It's washed three or four times. But the pants. Oh, like, I have outfits that when I came back with that would never watch,

aside from like in Ponderosa when they did little. thing. It still smells like smoking all that good stuff. But those pants, those pants were never washed, so that would be four years now. And they were just recently washed and I was like, I was sad as hell. I really was. Does anybody want to

mess up to what that is? I love that neighborhood. I don't know. I don't know with that. Is it a gunshot? I don't know what this was. It's fine. Let's keep going. Let's keep going. You know, it wouldn't be boys' night

without some. I'm just in. intruder trying to break in. Yeah. It was an aggressive knock. Whoever said. No, it was outside. I'm going to order some sacks, dude. What is some sacks?

Right now? Yeah, I'm going to order some sacks right now. This episode of the podcast brought to you by our friends over at Sacks. What is it? The Manta mask. Mine's in the other room. Yeah, the Manta mask. You got to wear the Manta.

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Talk amongst yourselves. Yeah. What is I might get one myself? I'm pretty sure they're just like really nice eye cover masks, right? Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Why would- Now, they don't, they're not currently.

But I'm telling you, you can't see. I sleep with the sleep mask all the time. I can't sleep without it. It can't see anything in the sleep mask. I could hypothetically do the rest of the podcast in this if we wanted to. You guys could have all. It almost looks like a superhero mask. Like you can't sleep through it, you know.

You ever watch The Boys? That looks like the blind superhero. You got that shit going on. Yeah. This is kind of like the Boys. If there's ever been a podcast that's been like the Boys. We are. We watch the Boys.

Watch the boys? Do you know what we've never seen the boys? Do you know what it's about at all? No, is it a bunch of, is it, I know it's superheroes, but I don't know what they do. They're just, it's like if the Justice League was all pieces of shit. That's what it is. Oh, I would like that. I don't know why I never.

Yeah, and the boys is like the black ops kind of group that like tries to go kill superheroes. Let me ask you this. A Reddit vibe. I don't know. Is that, is that accurate, Jake? I mean, is it good? I don't know. The boys always see the little Reddit.

to me, you know, a little... I really like it. You, Bruce, you watch it? Yeah, Bruce watched it. I absolutely loved it. It was amazing. It makes fun of Marvel a lot, and I know you're not a big Marvel fan, Drew. It's true. And it, like, directly, like, the guy,

like, who's Captain America -esque, like, goes in, like, is just kind of a piece of shit. Like, he was born in the 40s, so, like, he's, like, has a negative view on women, like, he's, like, racist, and it's, like, this is how it actually be of Captain American came here. Loves breast milk. Oh.

He likes older women. Who am I? Are you into it now? No, but I'm just saying like that pieces of shit. Like he's not like someone to be celebrated. I'm not saying that. But I'm just saying like the power goes to the head.

It's like U.S. politicians, you know? Yes. Do we know black noir in the boys? Do we know that character? Yes. We know him. Yes. So we, so I think it was episode three or four of the program.

We were walking to a viewing party in Brooklyn, and he walked by us and recognized me, Kelly Kutura, and we talked to him for a second. No way. Who plays Black Noir, watch a Survivor? Nathan, Nathan Mitchell is his name. Yeah, dude, shit. Really?

Yeah, yeah. Oh, dude, Nathan, what's up, dude? I love your show, dog. Jake, you got to go DM him. I'm going to go DM. Yeah, I'm going to send him this clip. Black Noir 1 or Black Noir 2? I think that's Black Noir 1.

I think. Black No, 2 was just a, the regular dude. He plays both. It looks like a Wikipedia. Are these spoilers right now? Yeah, this is our movie.

That is what we advertise it to be is the voice podcast. Bruce, you were saying something beforehand. You were saying something about superheroes. Yes, I would love to know. I would love to know who you guys would want to be like.

If you were any superhero author that you would want to be, who would you be? Jake is going to get his Captain America Shield I would love to No no we can fucking Captain America You guys go first

You guys go first I just got something right here I mean I I grew up a Legion to one franchise And one franchise only And that is the Power Rangers So I think I'll take

Whoever Whatever color nobody wants I'll be that color Power Ranger Yellow Traditionally in the in the US franchise Was a woman But it doesn't always have to be Yellow Power Rangers Ninja

What was the ninja power ranges. A ninja storm. Dustin. That was like, that was a dude. He was. I love that. Got his little guy somewhere. Austin's Aquaman. Bruce, what superhero would you be? This is like a loaded question.

I brought this up, so I'm last. So you guys, you know, last? When I'm thinking right now, superpowers, I'm thinking of the, the avatar, the last airbender universe. And of those, I would have to go either the earth or the water bending powers. So I'll just earthbender that would be my pick i like i would have to be somebody like fragile and frail you know

so like maybe like professor x type you know kind of like uh just weak and just there so i think yeah he's smart too so i think that's probably me i don't know you're giving me mr fantastic you know what i mean still wicked smart but like you know you you you got you got i don't know that is more right i feel like i'm i see it i haven't seen it is he the stress one? Stretchy one, right? Yeah, the stretchy one, yeah. Yeah.

Oh, I like that. Maybe, like, not Pedro Pascal, but a little more iron guffered or whatever that. Yeah. I'm a grower, not a show, or, you know, the stretch. I also, it's good. That's the way it's appropriate. All right, Jake, who are you going to be? I like green.

I'm just, I've always, green's my favorite color. I've always been a green Lantern thing. I have this little pig band. And, like, I just like the idea, like, imagine it. Like, you know, third place finishes, right? Owen coined the term Charlie Brown. I like to think I'm a little more Wiley Coyote than Charlie Brown in my edit.

And I think Wiley Coyote is very creative and I like the idea of being able to create things, you know, with the power of mind and ingenuity, Greenlandering. Mine is a little bit off of the normal stuff that you see. He's going to say Batman. What? You're going to say Batman?

Batman. What two powers did he have? You don't have any. He just made me. shit and had money. But, come on. Why you're going to roast Batman like that, dude? Hancock. Does anybody remember Hancock?

That's a good moment. Your Hancock, dude? That would be my, he is my most absolute favorite superhero ever. He's kind of like a piece of shit, though. Why would you want to be Hancocked? No, it's not that he's a piece of shit. He doesn't give a shit. He's just like, listen.

He is actually a piece of shit. I'm going to be a lot of good By his girlfriend Remember why he was a piece of shit He was a piece of shit I think that's Hitch No no no Doesn't Hancock get beat up by his girlfriend

Yeah At least alone He didn't remember She remembered who he was Because remember They got separated What they hadn't separate Because if they're together

They kill each other They're present Yeah dude He costs it's Jason Bateman That's a dick move Whatever But he He realizes

This is This is For the viewers, this is exactly what Boys Night was like. This is a live reenactment. In Cox's a shit choice. Incox is shit choice. That's not a good choice. Because you can still take it.

You can take bullets to the face and not get hurt. You can fly. You can bench it, throw things. Little kids, you know what? Get out my way. And then catch him. That's what you would. We said, we had four kids.

I would throw a kid. I would throw a kid 500 feet in air. I'd catch him. But the first thing you want to do with your power? Intiminating kids. Nah, I wouldn't throw a kid. I'd probably throw like four of my neighbors because they don't know how to shut their dog up.

But anyway, so. Throw the dog. You show your neighbors. I could have watched this podcast. I'm going to go like, I'm going to go dock on your neighbor's doors, dude. I'm driving down a reward right tomorrow. I'm going to get, I'm going to get this outfit. They made him wear.

And I'm going to see it my front lawn like this. And I'm going to throw your dog. I'm going to throw you. That's it. When is the dog too loud? Like when during the day? Is it 24-7 the dog is loud? 24-7.

It's not loud either. It's a yip. It's a yippa. It's a fitzoo kicker in a face of pup. I don't know. It's just one of those dogs that just does not stop yippin. And he just the entire day. And it's like you, you, I walk over to the owners every now and again.

I'm like, yo, like, kids dogs drive me nuts. And she's just like, I'm so sorry. And she put the dog in an hour for three hours. And then it comes outside. Yo, did you ever try going out with your friends and getting home at like two in the morning going to bed and all of a sudden you hear no.

Yeah, that's what I did. You go back at 2 a.m. a lot? Hell yeah. Listen, I am not what you think. I am not what you know. You know. If anybody knows, you know that I like to stay out body. Nah, this is bullshit. Bruce's ass was the first to bed every night on the fucking island, so I don't want to hear it. Because I couldn't say it half you at the time.

That's fair. That's why you slept all the way on the other side of the beach in the sand. Y'all talk about me all you. want to. I'm comfortable in the sand. Getting you big toes putting your face and shit out. You don't want to hear that?

If there's one thing I can look back on, one thing I can look back on. Actually, no, because there were points of time that we had the fire or stuff like that and I slept around the fire. So I was kind of close and stuff like that. But when it came down to beyond the bamboo, like, the truth be told. And as Julie, you, you, Austin, you

gave her a massage to get rid of the knots in her about. Like, it's so quick and easy for once you get older. to get knots and stuff and just be completely out of commission. There's nothing worse. There's nothing worse. So when I could bury my ass in the sand, and believe you, there was some mornings when I woke up,

and the water was three feet away from me, like, oh, shit, this could have went ever so bad. But I would rather have done that. It's just well worth it. See, I feel like the dirt was, like, better than the sand. Like, some nights I slept on the shelter, some nights I slept on the dirt, like, right outside the shelter. Sam was so nice.

Yeah, I was there for a brief time, but I always preferred the sand than the bamboo. I like the sand a lot. I sometimes go now and I'll go sleep in the sand. I will say your shelter looked really cool on TV. I've never went to the to the Lulu Beach, but it looks, I heard stories that it was not. Statically, sure. But it was really cool with like a whole little like roof to it. I just remember the see.

We built more of, it was more of an art exhibit than it was a livable place, like a place. Travel channel came by and took pictures. Like, oh, this is so nice. This is what Fiji is all about. And then practical living came by and was like, this is, this is garbage. This is straight trash. Correct. Wind blowing, right through it.

Rain coming through. Yeah. Jake, you remember that night? Making us all laugh. I was miserable. I was about to murder everybody. And Jake says, well, you know what? Your bellow shelter was not much better.

Drew and I got so. No, your fellow shelter is fucking ass, dude. It was significantly better. I'm sorry, Bruce. Like, I'm sorry, man. I did not like it. I didn't sleep in. But like, I was.

There was even. There was fire everywhere. Oh. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Significantly better than Lulu.

Yes. You know, I didn't have to go anywhere. Austin drew are accurate. That's right. Bellow's shelter was not as good as the Riva shelter. But it was better than Lulu. Oh.

Tough. Who built a Reeva? Wasn't the Lulu shelter like on the map? When you get the map of like your camp, isn't the shelter supposed to be like father back? Way, way, way, way back. It's supposed to be like in the underbrush. I don't think they aired it, but that was like a, that was like Emily's sticking point was she wanted it to be further back.

And that was like an Emily and Sabaya day one conversation of they couldn't decide where to put it. And then we all just went with, like, what's supposed to. I think I'm forgetting whether Emily wanted it in the place that it ended up. I think that's wrong. I think Emily wanted it in the back. And then we put it up in the front. Which was not... What's more blaming Sabaya?

I'm going to text Sabaya and be like, fuck you. No, I'm kidding. I love somebody. I would have to check the record on that, but I remember that they were at odds that's where to put it. But it is...

Either way, it was not a good... It was not a sturdily built shelter. Well, I would think that because that's where Tika had... That's where we had ours was right in that spot. In that same spot? Yeah, in the very same spot. So it almost seemed like it was a better spot to be able to put it.

Like in the back, you got to know there was no, like there's no breeze, no nothing. Like you're just just stuck in the middle of the brus. The breeze is a problem. Well, if you built a shut, dude. Well, yes, it was built like a wind tunnel because it was a wind tunnel. You had opened in the front of the wind tunnel. Like if you'd close one of the sides, then they would have stopped that from happening. But I'm just saying, like, that was a better spot because you're right on the beach.

Like, why would you want to be stuck in the middle of the woods? Because it's going to be less cold. but you don't got the wind coming up from the from the ocean and like that whole lulu beach is like the bellow shells are smelled like pee pee it is true you guys had your

you needed some wind up there who's peeing back there yeah it was like 10 feet away yeah I remember that like I would never piss over there not even at night like I take a walk and I go a little further up like dead serious that was your idea no no it was not

whose idea was that was that was that It was not my idea. It's fucking 10 feet away. Why would I want to piss 10 feet away from refrakebril? I don't know. You're the guy who came in and said, I've been on Survivor before. Listen to me.

What are you talking about? You're not an idiot. That's a lie. Who was it? Who was it? Who was it? I have, I will tell you. I have no idea.

It's not me. It's you or who else? Can I ask you clarifying question? It smelled like pee because of the pee 10 feet away? Or it's like people's somebody who's peeing in the shelter? sir. The pee spot was like 10 feet away. So we weren't like, so there was this section, right? Like maybe like 10 feet away from the bellow structure where people would pee in the middle of the night.

Coconut Grove where people like shat in the woods was like far away. So it didn't smell like shit. It smelled like piss. Like I don't think anyone was shitting over there because like there wasn't a lot of covering. But if you went in the middle of night, you went over there, you could piss pretty freely. It was dark. It can't see shit. So that's that's who's I never used that. I went down to the, went down to the water. to the rocks over to the left. That's why I was pissing them on. Like, I was never using, ever using that.

No, in the morning when there's lights out, you can go to the normal spot. Even in the middle of the night, like it didn't matter. Like, I would never piss over it. That was, I thought that was disgusting. Why did you think it was disgusting? Because you're pissing when you're laying.

Like, it's right there. Yeah, if you're that close. Like, 10 feet is throwing me. It was shocking. It was shocking. It was shocking. Who's idea was it? I have no idea.

I never, the only thing I ever, I haven't talked about was this looks like a good spot for the shelter. After people said, what do you think, Bruce? What do you think, Bruce? Oh, that's a good spot. I wasn't there. Oh, he's so demanding. You're just telling us how to put the shelter.

I was moving logs. I was not knowing how to fix a puzzle. See, again, this is what guys that's all about. Like, we said, we talk shit. Yeah, have we even talked about the episode? Whoa. I feel like, I don't know. What's the episode?

Yeah. The episode's kind of, at this point, it's almost up. There's some strategy before the tribal council, and then there's the tribal council. D wins immunity. It's important. Where we held the legs up? Yeah, yeah, yes.

I was so confident going into it. No, I wasn't. I was going to say with that challenge, I feel like there's certain challenges where it's really like a willpower of how much pain you can endure, but that was not one of those challenges. I feel like that's one where your body just, like, has a limit and you fall kind of thing.

did they just do it again on 49? Didn't they just give it again? They did. Is there anything that can be said of a strategy session pre-travel council? Anything interesting of note? I mean, I will say if I had one big, like the biggest regret or whatever

is not giving Drew my idol at that tribal council. But we really were like completely fooled. At least I was completely fooled. It really like did not. seem like Drew was going to go home because to us it meant so like it made so much sense like oh we all wanted Julie last round she just made this awesome play like she's even even bigger threat now but yeah so I wish I obviously played my idol and Drew but that was that was tough I mean suffice to say you did you guys Jake you did such a good job with the blind side that I mean it took like

it took like an extra game factor to like even even give me a clue that something was something was a foot I will say dude like you came down on the beach and I remember like you coming down being like, yo, dude, I think something's up. Like stuff didn't feel right in confessional because they were doing a drone shot really briefly or something. And you're like, yo, dude, something's up. I'm like, oh, fuck. He knows.

I'm like, dude, I switch my vote. Like, wait, where I don't want to go home. And you're like, no, stay the course. And I was kind of like, what the fuck? Like, why are we tipping them off? You know what I mean? Because in my mind, like at that time, in my perception, you were a bigger threat than Julie. and like that was like my perception at that point

whether that's the case you can ask people on the cherry I don't know but like that was I do want to say about the episode D did a great job thinking that or pretending that she wasn't tight with Julie that was like so impressive I did not think that they were like

very impressed on board with each other de crush that like the whole we don't like each other anymore we're good like D and Julie crushed that. I didn't think they were together. Because, like, my idea of the vote was going to be,

uh, me, Julie and Kutura and then try to flip D. And then, like, obviously that didn't happen. They actually defended me, I think, in the edit a little bit, but, like, they glossed over stuff. I didn't, when, when, uh, something happened at the vote,

and I remember being like, fuck, this is over. like Drew's not going home. I forget what I'm trying to remember. But yeah, it did not go my way. It would have been closer, Drew, to be honest. Wiley Coyote, out. You, Bruce, you, um, Jake says the thing about the jury's perception.

What was the jury's perception at this moment? Wait. For you, in your perspective. We can talk about this. I have never inquired about my jury equity. I've never, I've always made a point of like not asking. so we cannot we cannot do it we can cut we can do it we can do it we can do it but you know i just want to make that clear i this this would be news for me i've never asked um i honestly thought

my perspective in regards to the way the jury thought was is a little little skewed because during ponderosa my experience was different i didn't i wasn't in all the conversations that were going on And that's another topic and another conversation for another day. But from my listening and hearing what was going on and my thought process going into it, Drew, you weren't supposed to go home. Like, there was no way that you were going home at that point in time. Because there was conversations in regards to it were going home because we knew about the re-before and that you guys were all going to stay tight the entire time and then, you know,

kind of battle it out when you got that point. Or, gee, you were the next one. on the next chopping block. So you going was like, oh, what just happened now? Because I went. It was more useful. Yeah. Yeah.

So I went, Emily went, and then Drew goes. Like, wait, what am I? Like, we understood Emily going because Emily was fighting for that fifth spot in the real four. You know what I'm saying? And she just lost out on that. And then you start taking a look at the remaining pieces of the puzzle, which is Jake and Katara.

Well, keep the four together. who's next? Well, they've got to be gunning for Jake for weeks, episodes in a row. So Jake's got to be the logical one to go. Or if not, don't get the low-hanging fruit yet, which is him,

go get Cotara. That was the initial thought process. So you had more equity in regards to the jury, but I just, I was completely shocked when you go out. I was like, what? And to kind of talk about that,

just real briefly, fuck the god dang the editing I had a good time on the jury I had a damn good time I'm standing up for myself

for the moment because I looked like I was a miserable asshole on the jury I had a damn good time when Dee was talking shit to me at the final because if we all remember

I said to because my idea wasn't brought up at all in the final in the finale at all but what I said

was I said to Austin do you remember and I said to you Jake, I said, what the fuck are you two doing? You need to speak up because the body language in the jury right now is giving her a million dollars. Yeah, I remember this. I remember this.

That was a great moment, I thought. I thought it was great moment. I was talking to didn't make TV. Yeah. I mean, I think it kind of messed up the timeline of like how the final tribal was edited. That is correct. So what I'm getting at is I had a damn good time.

With the, you know, on the jury, we had a good time, you know, talking about all this stuff, but Drew, you were not supposed to go out at that moment. You were supposed to make the final point. Dean did a great job, obviously, of course. All the, all praised D. Very excited to see you're running back on 50. Yes, yes.

Yeah. I think we, like, it was tough because I feel like we gave them so many opportunities to mess up and to like break it to us and for us to figure out what was happening. Like, you know, we split them up on the reward and we were able to like, you know, keep everyone apart from each other. I feel like we're always around them. So the fact that they were able to all come together, come up with this move and keep it under the Raps, like despite a reward challenge and immunity challenge and everything else that was happening was a very good play. I do feel it totally, at least from my perspective, totally came down to hubris because at this point

in the game, like I was just purely functioning logically. And from my perspective, the kind of like performative aspect of playing the idol meant that Julie was the number one jury fan. And so when Julie was the number one jury threat and when there was so much discussion of D, I mean, the notion that I would have come up was just ludicrous. And so I think that like there were so many warning flags. I guess if I was going to have to think about it now that were missed and my watching back the episode just because I like very arrogantly was sure that like everyone had to be thinking the way I was thinking. So it was a real oversight. But yeah, I give me all credit. Even at tribal council, you have this moment before you leave to go to tribal council.

where you're getting asked about the idol. Throughout the tribal council, are you thinking that it is you at this moment? Or it's just in the back of your mind, like a distant? No, no, no. I thought there was a good chance it was going to be me. And so I was trying to like strengthen things up. And then I was like, there are people here I trust unconditionally, you know,

meaning like D. And she was like, well, you shouldn't trust anybody unconditionally. I was like, oh, my God. And then there was this moment where Jeff is like, are you going to be here? You know, like, how do you think it's going to go if you get through this? And I was like, if I may get through this, I'm going to be in the final three, which was like me signaling to Austin and D.

Like, I'm with you guys. Like, you know, we're going to go to the end. Like, if you let me through this tribal council. And then, like, also at, I felt like that was in terms of like kind of like tribal council performance, that there is a thing. That was my best tribal council. And I never prepared like material in advance. Like, you never really planned what you were going to say.

But I did just feel like this could. This is the first time I felt like this could be the end. And so I better like, you know, get everything out on the table. But yeah. Yeah. I think also another weird thing that kind of made this a more complicated tribal council is with the idols and the amulet with specifically with the amulet. There were some really weird rules behind it. Like you weren't allowed to give it to somebody else.

You were only allowed to play on someone else. But even that wasn't fully clear until like shortly before tribal council. so I feel like we could have gotten a little more creative with that had we had the time and the knowledge but yeah it was it was a it was a sad very sad moment I remember after that tribal council it was just like everything was just like holy fuck what do I do and then and then Jeff's like oh by the way you guys are going to a new beach you have to rebuild your camp so then it's like we go back and then for the next three hours I can't even talk about what the fuck went like just went down because we're building our new

shelter and like having to find you know our torches and everything and the water well and it was just there's a horrible night dude do you know how bad we looked when 46 showed up with like all their shit ready to go and they didn't go to a new beach we looked so bad not having that shit ready to go I thought we were told that you were a great time out there man it was like I know I voted that way but like I was bummed you not be in there anymore that sucked Yeah, don't even worry about it. Like, it's a little okay. You too, Bruce.

It's just because that was the vote we were talking about, you know? Well, I mean, we talked, we, it took us a minute to get there, but we did get to the episode. I'm so thrilled to have had the opportunity to chat with this group. We'll go around the horn again. If anybody wants to plug anything, anything you got going on. We'll start again, Drew. what's going on? I don't have anything to plug.

You know, obviously go watch the Jeopardy reruns, I suppose. But, yeah, it's always great to be here with some of my best friends in the world. And I always appreciate the opportunity to promote Vantamask or Vance of Sleep. We'll edit that. We'll fix that in post. But yes. Love it. Hasn't been a sponsor in a year.

It's all right. But I still use it all the time. You know, I'm a sponsor by them. Is it a fan of mask or fan to sleep? Mantis sleep. Manta sleep. Yeah. But Jake, anything going on for you?

No, just working, getting people divorced, keeping them out of jail. Doing our rights. How is divorce in January, 26? A lot of divorce. Actually, it's actually a really busy month because everyone, well, in January, everyone's like New Year's Resolution. Let me leave this second. shit and that makes a lot of work for me so is is that real that's a real time it's like a high point

oh yeah oh yeah there's there's two bumps in the year it's it's january new year's resolution let me leave this guy or this girl and then uh september start of the school year problems arise and i get a lot of calls interesting i wouldn't have guessed september for the second the second big bump yeah kids you're probably the reasons for your parents getting divorced I don't know what to tell them. I'm just saying, I'm a little lesson for some RHAP viewer out there. Like, it's totally ruined, ruin their day, man.

Some very sad. A year old is the kid. My parents were getting divorced, Jake. You got to be careful. I'm just saying, I don't know. I'm not speaking to anyone. I'm just saying there's a trend. I'm just speaking to trends.

Bruce, what's going on for you? Am I allowed to plug other? Yeah. It's boys nice. do whatever we want. Survivor Now podcast. I am a regular fixture there. We are getting ready to do Australian Survivor.

That's coming up. It's going to be some great coverage that we have coming up. I think we're doing like three pods a week for the first couple of weeks. And then we do two. And then we're done with that. We'll be doing a whole ton, a ton of stuff for Survivor 50. We already have probably five episodes. episode's done now in regards to boot order and stuff like that.

We just have so much going on. We have a draft coming up. And every, after every episode, we get together. We talk about what's going on and how much we want to punch production in the face and all that good stuff. But, yeah, Survivor Now podcast, just check us up. Who is Survivor now? Real quick. What's that?

Who, like, who are your co-hosts? Abraham from season 40, 41. Yes, because he took my spot for 41. So Abraham's on there, Eric Abraham. We have Ali, Tara, we have Kara, Tori. And then we just have just a bunch. There's 11 of us. And we have so many different things.

We have a pre-show. We have an after show. We have got something for you. We got stock watch. We have so many different things that, you know, because not everybody likes to watch, you know, let's talk about the episode. They might just want to know the social things going on, and that's what they do with our other cast that we do.

We have guests on. So gentlemen, we would love to have any of you come and join us at any point in time. Just let me know that would be great, you know, and then I'll be here your thoughts on the episodes. I love it. I just want to go on one with Abraham. I just don't want to double up. I don't want to double up on Bruce and Abraham. I like Abraham.

He's all right. Bruce. I love him. I have such great times. Abraham. They got him. He's such a good dude. He's such a good dude.

He's shorter than he looks, but he's such a good dude. He is short. But you are not tall. It's true. This is 5'7. Right. Awesome. What's going on for you?

Nothing crazy either. Mostly just work, but like everyone's saying, I mean, this is so much fun. I love always getting together with the boys. And I mean, this is just like hanging out. I got part of this. I forgot we were even doing a podcast. We were just like just, talking. It was so much fun. But, oh, actually, I remember, I don't know if it was your last one

that you did for these recap episodes on with Andy. Yes. And I was sent a clip where you all talk about Joey King and Amanda. At the end up to send you that, yes. Yes. Okay, so I saw that. And I want to say, Joey King was not a paid actress to go and deliver that question. she was just asked to do it I think like Jeff went up because like Amanda Amanda and Joey used to be like best friends but like they don't hang out really

I don't much I don't really know all the details but anyways they used be best friends when they were young and then they were like backstage during a reunion and then like I think like Jeff went up there and was like hey like they were just talking and then she was like saying this question and he was like you want to ask that like during the finale

and she's like okay and that's how it went so there's some clarification Honestly, I mean, Amanda might be able to answer it a little bit better, but yeah, I felt like I got to give my my POV from what I understand. Which is so funny that I meant to send you that clip and then I forgot. There you go. For all of those who are wondering right now. Thanks, Google. Major Lord drop.

Major Lord drop. This is the South Pacific finale. Which if you haven't listened to that, me and Andy Ruea and his girlfriend, Shannon Anderson, talk about the South Pacific finale. we've got two more episodes of this podcast coming up. Rob is talking to the cast of Survivor 46 tomorrow, and then we have one for 48 as well. Thank you, everybody, for listening. Have a great rest of your night or day.

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