RHAP: We Know Survivor - The Newbie Guide to Australian Survivor

Episode Date: September 17, 2025

Shannon Guss and Mike Bloom introduce Australian Survivor newbies to the franchise in this spoiler free guide, including what seasons to watch and to skip, format differences you can expect from the US and beyond.

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Rumbly. Hello and welcome of Australian Survivor I'm your host, Shannon Gus here for a little bit of it's off-season coverage but we're still firmly in the postseason of Australia versus the world

still doing a lot of post-season coverage on that but we thought that we would get to this because we have had a lot of people who are new fans of Australian Survivor who've maybe never watched any Australian Survivor, how dare you, and just checked out AUV World, or maybe have even checked out AUV World, but have just heard about it now

because it's become even more of a phenomenon through AUV World and want to know, okay, what do I watch? There are a lot of seasons, the seasons are very long, what's worth my time, what isn't. We're here to steer the ship. And to do that, I do have the Australian Survivor to my very good seasons, Mike Blue. Hi, yes.

Happy to be here. Thank you. Yes, welcome. Welcome aboard, I guess the ship to continue the metaphor, Shannon. Listen, there's some very good sailing that is ahead of you, people, and hopefully you don't have to pirate too much of it, for lack of a better term. Probably you will, if you're our target audience. If you are someone who watches Australian Survivor

and wants to know how to watch US Survivor, you are in the wrong place. I will say, because I get all the questions. I get it from every, I get about international. I get Australians who haven't watched US. I get US fans who haven't watched Australia. If you're an Australian fan who's ever watched US, Google Shannon Gus chart. I did that chart after season 40 with my recommendations.

And then, let me actually Google. Like, if I Google Shannon Gus chart, will it come up? It is. It's the first thing on images. I googled it a lot. A lot of people asked me for my chart. Shannon Gus chart. And if you want the new era stuff that has happened since then,

I recommend 42, 45, 46, and 47. All right, now you can leave. You are in the wrong place. You just did like, if you're here for the, wrong reason. Let me give you what you need to know. Okay, now let's actually get to the reason why we're here. I'll tell you why, though, it's because I do get a lot of these questions, and I try to respond to everyone, and I've gotten so many of these questions. So, again, I don't, if you are looking for the U.S. seasons, that's a blanket statement. But yeah, if you're

an Australian Survivor fan, you're in the wrong place, because we're here for the Australian Survivor who've never watched Australian Survivor and want to know what to watch. And honestly, there are there are some bad ones out there right so like we're trying to we're trying to help you out because there's also a lot of really great Australian Survivor Mike so yeah what do you think about all of this yeah so I mean I think again despite the fact that we you know just finished this massively popular season we're going to be a little bit in purgatory for lack of a better term maybe bring that element up later when it comes to a next Australian Survivor season but again I think a lot of people are understandably jazzed on Australian Survivor especially watching

half the cast be made up of previous players. And I think there is a fair amount of people who were brought in by watching Surrey and Parvety and Tony and we're like, oh, I really like these people. I really like JLP. I really like Australian Survivor, but I've never seen it before. And so look, let's say out front here,

this is not a guide of how to watch Australian Survivor. There are methods to do so that you can Google, much like Shannon Gus chart. I will also say, doing a little bit of in-house promotion here. If you are a patron of Rob has a podcast, you get access to a nice, handy dandy chart that has a good amount of links to these seasons.

A lot of charts, exactly. But we figured for this podcast, essentially what we would do is go over a lot of tenets of what Australian Survivor is. Suffice it to say, as great as A.U. versus the world was, it doesn't necessarily represent what Australian Survivor usually is

in terms of structure and what to expect from a season. And then we're going to go through the, you know, 11 seasons that have happened. Spoiler free, exactly. I think we're not going to give away any sort of like placements or standout characters or anything. We're going to use a lot of vague terms, but to your point, Shannon, there are some really great seasons. There are some not so great seasons.

But as I like to talk about, you know, I think everyone can give every season a try and see what season is for them. So we're going to talk through each season and kind of its basic terms so that if that season appeals to you, you can seek that out. I'm sure we'll give some recommendations of like, okay, out of these, which are the good ones to start with? but consider this your handy-dandy, spoiler-free guide to what Australian Survivor is all about. And I think the thing that's so great about Australia and Survivor is it's such an extreme product that, like, you have Survivor, there's so many seasons, and there's a lot of subjectivity to it, and I feel like there's more kind of a gray area on some things, whereas I do think that we have reached a lot of a consensus around how to grade these seasons for Australian Survivor.

And I also think that a lot of those middle tier seasons, or what might be defined as middle tier, like barely exists in Australian Survivor. Like that is either one of the best seasons of TV you've ever seen or like an absolute nightmare. Because in 24 episodes, what used to be even more than 24 episodes, it's either like so long and terrible that you just wanted to end, God make it stop kind of vibes. Or it's like good enough and you're so invested. And it's like, you know, you want something great and you want something great and you you just keep getting more of it, like Homer and the donuts.

That's what a greatness fiber is like. So it actually is convenient because it's quite binary and I think quite easy to do. And another thing that's really convenient is that the seasons that the AUV World cast are on. So if you want to prepare for AUV World or if you've seen these characters in AUV World and want to know more are the great ones. They like skipped over all the bad ones. But like you could have a very convenient, pretty much. You could have a very convenient road of knowing these characters to get to AUV World.

So yeah, it's more simple than it is. for the US, I think. Well, let's start by talking about, again, some generalities that people should know about Australian Survivor because you mentioned one right off the bat, Shannon. Again, Australia versus the world was a very different season. It was 14 players. It was 10 episodes.

That is never the case with Australian Survivor. In Australian Survivor, bigger, sometimes better, to your point, most times better. But every single cast of Australian Survivor features a wide, dropping 24 players, and perhaps to account for this, there will be upwards of 24 episodes a season. Much like A.U. versus the world, they'll usually air three times a week, usually two times a week. I know every episode of A.U. versus the world was around like an hour, 10 minutes without commercials. The runtimes tend to vary. You know, sometimes the second episode in a week tends to run like 50 minutes or so.

But even so, these are long episodes of Survivor, filled with many, many people. Yeah, and you get, you know, really fun stuff with that. You get these 12-person tribes, almost always, these two tribe kind of battle themes, and you get, like, really fun swaps. Like, you basically watch two concurrent merges and then swap them and then merge, as often very many people. So I think for a lot of the people in the U.S. who've been missing that scale, I mean, Australian Survivor does it as a scale never seen before. But even if you miss kind of that old-school U.S. survivor scale of just like two tribes and and swaps and kind of more of those dynamics. Final two, I would say the, you know,

I think there's what, three Australian Survivor seasons where we haven't had a final two, which also accounts for, gets into the next element of this. So because they have such a large episode order, again, 24 players and at least 24 episodes, one of the big things that, again, was missing from AU versus the world

because of the cast size and episode order, but is, I would say, one of the trademarks of Australian Survivor are what's called essentially non-elimination episodes. We're taking a page out of The Amazing Race where sometimes we'll get two, three, sometimes maybe even four, depending on how the season goes,

episodes where a person will technically not be eliminated. Now, they have varied up how they've done this in the past. Like the first season, for example, they just did a double swap episode and a double merge episode where it was kind of like a 2B continued. But ever since then, they've usually associated it around some sort of, of twist. We've had things where people get voted over to the other tribe. Either the other people

know that or don't know that until the person shows up the next day on the other tribe. We've seen cases sometimes where they'll be like a short-term Redemption Island concept where like the next two, three, four people are all voted into this purgatorial state where one of them or some of them are going to compete to come back into the game. You know, we've even had some twists where it's like, you're something that can nullify a tribal council and make it a non-elimination episode. So that's something that is very big to know about Australian Survivor, is that you are not always going to get a person voted out every single episode. Yeah, and that's going to be weird for you. Okay, it was weird for us too, but you will get used to it. And then you'll just

keep hoping that the non-illimination episodes are as painless as possible. And further into the series, I think that they start striking that balance, but kind of just have to accept that from the get It was shocking to us as well in 2016, but it is a necessary evil to a degree of, you know, having to have so many episodes and having to make more money from ads with longer episode orders. Also just the way that Australian television is, we have multiple times a week. So that's just like competing with the landscape of TV. So it's the kind of thing where people still to this day are complaining, like no more non-aliminate. Like we're always going to need, always going to need it.

Like we just hope that they do it as best possible, basically. Exactly. It's like a necessary evil, essentially. And that also sort of brings in the idea of twists in general. Australian Survivor, we'll talk about it. Seasons very much vary in terms of how many twists are brought in. You know, you're going to see maybe a few kind of trademark versions that they've used time and time again. But really, I would say even more so than the US, Australia just really runs the gamut of twist that they use. Sometimes from, again, the most innocuous, especially from a non-elimination person. perspective to, honestly, some of the most egregious I have ever seen. But again, and this is a show that's also cycled between a few showrunners as well. There's a lot of consistently try things. I was thinking about this, Shannon, in preparation for this podcast, and it kind of surprised me. You know, Australian Survivor will sometimes go a bit idle hungry. They love the big plays. They love the idol moves. Surprisingly few advantages, I would say. You know, we've had knowledge just power get used a couple times.

You've had the idle nullifier show up. I mentioned the one before that nullifies a tribal council, but especially compared to how many they dole out in a given season of U.S., it is quite stunning that they have not sort of pulled out their own bag of tricks of, okay, you have this, you have this, you get an extra vote, you get a vote steal, et cetera, et cetera. Well, the vote economy doesn't really exist in Australian Survivor most of the time. You know, sometimes the vote will not be sacred and it will be angering.

And believe me, we felt that pain when you see it, We felt it at the time, too. But everything that you kind of know of the new era in terms of like journeys and the vote economy and like, you know, they have shot on the dark and all of that really does not translate. So I think a lot of the things that people miss about US Survivor, the themes is an example, that type of more in which there are a big twist, but like that kind of more pure voting energy where people often mostly have mostly, with caveats, have their votes.

And I think as well, you know, some of the, it's a very different edit, which you'll have to get used to, which you might have seen from Australia versus the world where it's a lot more main characters versus like, I don't know, not people who are daily on the show. That's the big thing. It's stars and scrubs. I think that is probably one of the biggest things that I think, you know, again, depending on how you like your storytelling might put US above AU. Because I think especially in the new era, the US version makes an effort to have us get to know at least a little bit about. about everybody, not the MO of Australian Survivor. They will take usually every season a select few characters about three to five, and we are going to hear a lot from them in pretty much every episode

until they are voted out. You know, we get a lot of confessionals. Again, it's a long runtime, so we oftentimes get repetition in confessionals. I think Australian Survivor more than others is more visible about what we call Frankenbiting, right? you'll clearly see that they are taking splotches from different confessions. You look at the different locations, the different outfits to piece together. Yeah, exactly, the beards. Sometimes

people are even caught like wearing the merge buff in some of these, you know, select shots. So again, it varies. I think that for some people, it's like great, I get to see more of my favorite characters. This is fantastic. For others, it's like, oh my God, get this person off of my screen. But I would say, especially from an editing perspective, that is a major. major difference. If you think the US makes some characters quieter in comparisons

to others, like they, in Australian Survivors sometimes make Purple Kelly look like Tony Blockos. But to be fair, confessionals, not like some people

can't be completely invisible, but confessionals mean less in Australian Survivor. Tribal councils are very long. The challenges are a massive part of it. The mat chat is like a thing that I really think we've really defined

in Australian Survivor where people will talk across the mat to other tribes and really blow things up. But I think that Australian Survivor, the way that it has cast, it shows, the way it casts and edits is that it gets these stars and they become like icons of the franchise. So you'll also find like a lot of returnees will show up time and time again, which has not been a big part of a recent US survivor.

The diversity is very bad. That's another big difference. The fandom diversity is good. At first, it's very stark. Like there's a couple of like real super fans and then people who have never seen the show, especially when Australian Survivor hadn't been on the air. So you had to be much more of a fan to kind of have watched any U.S. Survivor lately, that I think has evened up more over time, but there's definitely like a kind of wide birth of fandom, which I know people have

really missed. So I think that they do a lot of things to extremes, but some things that feel extreme in the new era in terms of the structure, the vote economy, the story base. Like we have a lot less of like the sub stories and like the personal stories.

Yeah, there's usually like a reward every single. season where they like get letters from home or some sort of personal mental when we get to know them. But yeah, pretty much the editor is going to be about like them in the game rather than them outside of the game. So yeah, I mean, for what it is, and I think a lot of people have been espousing this, but it bears mentioning again, I really do feel like Australian survivor and US survivor, especially in its current form, are really yin and yang. You know, it depends on what you're looking from in

the show. And if you're not, if you're looking at one particular series and you're like, oh, I wish we didn't have that. Chances are, if you go over to the other version across the Pacific, it's going to have that. And so, again, to your point, I think, especially as of late, as people are maybe getting a little bit more fatigued of the new era and all of the twists and the boat economy, as you mentioned in the fact that, again, we keep using the same format, people are more turning to Australian Survivor, feeling like, despite the fact that it has these huge casts in 24 episodes, sometimes throwing in its own wild twist, it still does kind of have that old school field to it, to your point, where, you know, it's a little bit more based in people

figuring things out as they go along. The structure is a little more basic. Two tribes, final two. You mentioned it before, though, as well. Something that's very interesting is that Australian Survivor uses a lot more celebrity casting than American Survivor ever really has. You know, I think that even in the teens where U.S. Survivor was bringing in a lot of people as sort of ringers from the sports world and entertainment world, we'll get into it. Australian Survivor starting around like season three pretty much fails up what like a quarter of their cast every season with Notables.

Yeah and I mean that like your mileage may vary on like I mean to the Americans were watching like those people will not be names you Steven Bradbury he showed up that that one day the name you've probably heard but otherwise yeah they're like sports stars and they'll use themes to kind of get notable people onto it but I think we've kind of spoken through the differences we look at some of these seasons yeah yeah so we'll uh I've got a nice little PowerPoint presentation. Oh, I love a PowerPoint.

Yeah, if you want to help me share that right now. But, yeah, right, I do that. We will go through each season here. Oh, hi, buddy. Who's the best? You are. I wish I could spend all day with you instead.

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so first off, we should say Australian Survivor did air two seasons originally back in the early. 2000s when Survivor was all the rage around the world, you know, forgive me by putting words in anyone's mouth in, feels like it didn't necessarily hit that big. And so we're talking specifically about the reboot of Australian Survivor. And I know there's some tic-y-tack in the AU community about like, this is technically the third season in general, but just for simplicity's sake, we are counting the reboot as its own franchise. So we'll talk about the first season that came out of this reboot in 2016. Yeah. Those were under networks. I usually call things by their year or themes. So I call this AU 2016.

Yeah, which is a good thing to note as well. Yeah, we have not started with the themes here. The theme itself was like, wow, a survivor is back. So this was the first season that came out in 2016. You mentioned how the bigger tribes of 12 each has become a staple of Australian Survivor. It did not start that way. Some of even heard this before, Shaden, because it may or may not be something we'll be seeing very soon on American Survivor, Australian Survivor started with three tribes of eight to reintroduce this concept to the audience. Yeah. So this season, I feel like this is the one people argue over the most. I think that there is kind of a consensus that it's not liked. I certainly didn't enjoy it. I haven't watched it since 2016. There are definitely some

characters in it. You want to see that come back, that are great. That's going to be true of, you know, every season, but I think with 2016, my concern was that, you know, the show would be bad and then it would embarrass me in front of the Survivor community. And like, kind of, I mean, the next season is one of the best seasons, I think, ever. And this is just, it's so long. You know, when I said, like, it's, if it's bad, like, it just, it dragged. There are definitely highlights. People talk about the finale as one of the best finals of all time. You know, it was fun that we got Survivor back. there are certainly some characters who are very important to this podcast

and very important to the franchise. But I kind of feel like if you're looking to do the whole thing, then I mean, why listen to this podcast? Just watch every season. If you're looking to skip some of the worst, I would skip AU-2016 person. For what it's worth,

I think it gets off to like a pretty fun start, especially again for this sort of open concept of we don't know what this is going to look like. You mentioned this before. You covered the reboot of Survivor UK, and they're always a little bit of trepidation as to, like, have these people been watching U.S. Survivor? How much do they know about the game?

What will they bring into it? But I would say the premurge is interesting. It is a long pre-merge. It is a 12-episode pre-merge. That is the length of basically a U.S. new era season. But I will say, you know, what ends up happening without getting into too much is that there is a twist that kind of dictates the second half of the pre-merge.

It doesn't necessarily make things less excited, just a little more straightforward in some aspects. And it does hit a rough patch in the post-merge. The rough patch is like, it's more than a patch. Oh, yeah. I would argue this is one of, you know, whenever I recommend Australian Survivor to peoples, that stretch is one of those ones where I'm like,

you might just want to skip those episodes outright, you know? Like, it's not necessarily the strongest batch of episodes. It does pick up a little bit towards the end, culminating, to your point, one of the best finalies, not only in Australian Survivor History, but some are considering one of the best in global history, period. So like you said, it's a bit of a mixed bag to start things off. I would not completely throw the baby out with the bathwater

because I do think there are some interesting task members and moments, but yeah, it's not the strongest start to the reboot. I think if you're watching this, watch every season. Like, pretty much. Like, if your bar is that low, you might as well just do the whole journey. Well, let's get into brighter prospects. year. Because like you said, Australian Survivor does come back again for a second season. And they come back with a big one here. 2017, the last non-themed Australian Survivor season.

They go to the two tribes of 12. And for lack of a better term, Shannon, it's a banger. This is one of the best seasons of all time. It's one of the best newbie class of all time. Many of them have returned in different reality shows as well and really define the landscape of Australian TV over the last eight years. The season is so, so good. It's a great place to start because it's all newbies. It's, you know, really right to what was the beginning there, to the point where on a podcast last week, I said, Australians 5 of 2017 to 2025 so far. And Rob was like, didn't start in 2016. And I was like, I pushed it out of my memory. It's such a good season. It's such a good place to start. It's obviously not that old school because

it was still pretty recent. And you can follow a lot of the journeys of these players. It's just, it's so good and like people think that it kind of slows down towards the end game I've actually never really thought that I mean compared to some other seasons as well I think the thing with Australian Survivor is you're used to pre-merges in the US being a little more lackluster and then it like ramps up with the merge in Australian Survivor again with these two concurrent merges that is pre-merge and then swaps the pre-merge is often even better and then maybe it slows down towards the end because it's so long but I still think that this survives that well it's really fun it's really funny. It's very long, because I think this was, what, 26 episodes before we were, 55 days.

Yeah. Wild. It's worth it. It's so good. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, absolutely. I think there's just so many standout characters who end up, you know, going out from the beginning to make it all the way to the end. I think that 2017 can be an example of, again, something that we are now to expect a new era survivor, which is, as you coined in Australia, the Tall Poppy Syndrome, right? Which maybe contributes to some of those people's feelings, as you were mentioning of, like, these big characters, and big presences will sometimes get to like 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, and then get cut rather than, again, they've sort of adapted the editing. I feel like later on to more so be like, hey, these are the people you should care about

because they're going to be in the final three, final two. But sometimes in these earlier seasons, you know, they're just editing these big characters that don't necessarily make it all the way to the end. But that's not to bemoan the people who did make it to the end because there just is so much good stuff here. Like right off the bat, you could tell there's sort of a lot of great stories. storylines happening where there's a lot of big power ships happening on honestly both tribes. And we should also mention, you know, right there in the bottom right corner

if you're watching the YouTube version of this and we'll point this out the route without getting into placement spoilers. This is the King of the Jungle, Luke Toki's original season of Australian Survivor. And Sarah for the people watching Australia versus the Wall. So again, this season has its fingerprints all over Australian Survivor. It's very important. You're going to keep watching the franchise and it's also great it's a no-brainer start here um okay let's go to champions versus contenders one what i usually call a u 2018 because cvc1 i don't know i don't know why i start theming it around brains be brawn um but this season is interesting to me because as i've usually said it's always very bad or very good with no in between this season had both

of those things for me this season did have russell hans if this was the first foray into casting American players and it does have important players this is Shawnee's first season as well but I think that the pre-merge is quite hard but then I think that the post-merge is so good

so it's the kind of thing where it's like if you can be bothered going through a tough pre-merge I do think it's probably worth it and it amounts to being a good season overall but I feel like to me it's got both sides of it yeah so let's talk about this theme because this is the first one

that Australian Survivor will introduce. And, you know, I would say technically they predate David versus Goliath, though they were probably filming at the same time. But it's very similar to David versus Goliath. Again, what you'll figure out with Australian Survivor in particular is that these themes are incredibly loose. But basically, it's this idea of, like, people who are leaders in their respective field versus, like, those that are up-and-comers in the world.

And again, you look at each person, especially on the contenders tribe, we'll talk about this next season. and you're like, really, you're not a champion, you're a contender, but it sets up a narrative fairly interestingly. This is when we really start to pipe in a lot of a celebrity casting because of the theme, we're getting some sports stars, we're getting some well-known public figures.

You mentioned Russell Hans sort of showing up in that variety, even though, ironically enough, he had not won a survivor season up to that point. This is a season where one tribe, I would say, is kind of riveting to watch in terms of, there's a lot of drama and dynamics that are happening, not so much with the other tribe. I absolutely

see your point and I agree with it to a certain extent that that can also lead to a bit more of a rote pre-merge watch. But yeah, even at the time, JLP and his narration at the merge episode is like, they're calling it the best post-merge in Australian Survivor history. Kind of weird because it's only the third season, but like

has some really, really good stuff in it. Some major flips, some big blind sides, you know, some big moves happening as, you know, all the way up to the final, you know, the final three vote. Yeah, to the right over to the end. And like you said, this is the original season of Shawnee and she shines for lack of a better term from the very beginning. Yeah. So this is the one, there's two that are kind of in the middle where it's like, you decide for me. The others I'm more definitive on. All right. So they went right back to Champions

versus contenders too. Up to the point where I accidentally used the same photo. Are they all going to be wrong? No. No. All right. You're going to have to picture.

Paul, apologies to CBC too. The Champions versus Contenders 2 cast. Champions, I can't, like, I can't, don't want to look at it. This is like I'm getting confused. Clear your eyes. Yeah. So they went back to the well, but the well was better because Champions versus Contenders 2 is a great season.

Also highly recommend a Luke comes back. It's David. first season. There's a lot of Janine's first season. Like there's a lot of great characters and it's really fun. It's a really fun pre-merge. It never really slows down. I don't think. I think this season is the one that you really think about in terms of the wonky edit. Like I really feel like they amped up that extremes in terms of main characters and people barely on the show more than ever in ways that might infuriate you. But like the people they give us are great. There are some incredible characters and I highly

recommend this. Yeah, so I would say almost like CBC One, this is another season that especially the first quarter is kind of dictated by a lot of drama and a lot of intrigue happening on one tribe in particular. The other one maybe not so much which just contribute

to a bit of that unbalanced edit. But yeah, this is where you saw David and Luke bro down as soon as they hit the beach on Australia versus the world. This is their origin story. And David is especially, you know, Luke becomes the first ever returning in Australian Survivor history. He comes on, spoiler alert, as a champion.

They call him the people's champion in a manner of speaking. But David also hits the ground running as just a massive character. He's making big moves, sometimes questionable moves. You know, he's delivering in terms of the airtime. And I would say, you know, the momentum pretty much continues in the post-word. I would say this is one where the premurge is probably more exciting. Dan the post-merge, but that's not to bemoan. Yeah, but it's not to bemoan the post-merge whatsoever. I think that's still incredibly exciting. There's some big characters that make, you know,

some questionable plays, I would say, and it leads to a very intriguing final couple of episodes. Yeah, this is when I started covering the show. There should be podcasts from season one even. I mean, just you guys can, again, like Google, Google, just Google it. Yeah, I think, yeah, Mike's got the actual. There we go. Don't want to do it. Yeah, I'm just telling people to Google things like Russell Hans did. But, yeah, I mean, there should be coverage. Robin Stephen did the first season, then Nick did the second and third, and then I went in from 2019.

But what was it going to say about this season? Oh, yeah, you said that it was like one entertaining tribe, like 2018. I feel like that's so much more entertaining. Like, I don't think anyone in the premers were doing anything even remotely comparable entertainment-wise to how fun this season was. a lot of great plays, you know, that I can see them on my screen. Harry is going to be important. A lot of these people come back.

Oh, everyone comes back a lot. There's a lot of returning seasons, but anyway, some fun characters. And I would also say without teasing the identity too much, I would say one of the most fun lies that I've ever seen in Survivor history comes from this season. Yeah, there's a lot of fun moments. Yeah, so watch that on. We can go back now to All Stars.

Yeah. Also, yeah, a little wild, right? Yeah, you think on paper like, oh my God, it's only been four seasons. Why are we doing All-Stars? It makes sense at the time, considering that, again, there were, what, like 96 at least people to pull from, given the fact that there were 24 people every season. Well, 95, Luke.

Oh, yeah, I guess, not, yeah, plus Luke. They brought Luke back a third time if they wanted to. But, yeah, this is Australian Survivor All-Stars, where they brought back 24 standout players of all different. different varieties. Some of them were, you know, pre-merge memorable boots. Some of them made it all the way to the end. You know, there are a couple winners maybe that end up making their way back here as they do battle as the best of the best. Yeah, dude, this is such a bad season. Do you don't watch this is so bad. This is, I don't know. I think Chappelle's always telling people to watch

the season. I'm like, please stop. I hated this. But I was also going through like a pretty bad time mentally. I mean, this, yeah, but also say this, this came out in, because Australian Survivor up to this point had aired in like July and August. This was the first time that they were intending at the time, at least, to film to film an air two seasons in a year. So they said, okay, we're going to shift this back to January and February. If you were around during January and February 2020, you might have known what might have

hit that may or may not have contributed Shannon to your mental well-being at that time. Well, I think as well, like this kind of becomes to me, the first era of Australian Survivor and then we're going to shift into the new era I think with the next season Brains v Braun which was over a year later due to the COVID break but I think for me it's like

very long seasons that are painful when they're bad but then add in it's like people you love or like I mean literally some of them but even just from the screen was so frustrating now this is what's so hard is like you're going to want to watch this because this is going to have plays in it that you love if you watch even just

like 2017 and 2019 or the first four seasons like you will want to watch it and I get it because there are important stories like Shawnee comes back and David comes back and a lot of these players come back I get it I just I like I wish you well when you feel like you need to watch all stars and it's just

it's not it drags and it's not there it's so few fun moments it's just not it's just like not fun at all but I mean good luck to you I mean that's the thing if you're a US fan you've heard this song before right this is a bit comparable to the US All-Stars, where, again, not to get into too much, but, you know, I think you end up seeing

a lot of bigger, you know, highly expected characters going early. You know, the end game is more so kind of dominated by a group of people where you're kind of wondering, like, were you even All-Stars to begin with? Which I also mention as well, this was one of the twistier season. I mean, listen, well, it doesn't hold a candle to what we're going to get into next, but I remember, like, every batch of three episodes, essentially every weekly assortment of episodes. There was some sort of twist involved in it. And maybe part of it was, again, wanting to account for the episodes. Part of it might have been like, well, these are returning players, so we have to keep them on their toes. But there's, again, a wide

ranging allotment of twists they use in this season in particular. It is so strange to think that this is the one season of Australian, like full Australian returnies, because there's so many returning opportunities, but like always in these hybrid situations. So this is all stars. Again, good luck. um brains be brawn is awesome my one one you had one job i know i'll bring it i'll bring it up i'll bring it up this copy page between me picture brains we brawn one um season six so this came back after the covid hiatus in loop mid year 2021 and it's such an extreme season it's a season of extreme personalities i think some of the best characters in australian survivor this is george's

first season um it's a season of extreme twists like there was always something happening and it got to the point where maybe this is the most you know disagreed upon season because i think for some people it was too much um but then i do like then i think for a lot of people myself included it was just so good and so entertaining here we are um and it's also in the australian outback because we were having to record locally, but it's just so good and it's so entertaining that even though there are moments that are so angering, and there are definitely like some of the worst moments in the show,

but it's so good that it covers for that. Like, that's how good it is. And Rob and I covered it again. So if you want coverage on this, we have it from 2021. And then Rob and I did it again in what, 2023? Wow, that was any two years later.

I felt like a lifetime. That's crazy to think that that was two years ago. But anyway, so Rob and I covered it. We did a rewatch. want to listen to that, you can as well. But when I rewatched it, I was even more entertained, even more, like, especially, like, knowing what would happen and not being, like, angered in the moment by the twists, because I'd already, like, felt those feelings and, like, it had already passed years ago. I just enjoyed it. And it really is, like, it's such a good time. I think you

have, like, what I, I think I always say, like, proceed with caution in this season, because you have to know, like, those extreme elements of it. But then it's also such a good time. It never slows down. It's probably my favorite end game ever in anything. Some of my favorite episodes of Survivor, some of my favorite streaks in Survivor, it's so good. What do you think about this season? Yeah, so let's talk about the theme first and foremost. You know, we are certainly now going to get into the era of Australian Survivor, where they are pulling themes from the U.S. version, obviously, Survivor U.S. succeeded in, in my opinion, two different times with the Brains versus Braun versus Beauty theme. They just drop the beauty. They're all beautiful in

Australian Survivor. So they just went with Brains versus Braun. And what I will say is that this season gets going really from the jump. I think there is a lot of, honestly, like, it's weird to describe this season as like mess, but it kind of is. Like I think you have some really, really great gameplay and really some all-time moves get pulled off here from a few particular players. It is sort of counterbalance by especially a few select players making all-time blunders and just moments where you have your head in your hands being like, why did they think they were able to do this? But again, if you were someone who's into this season for like, oh my God, I need all these expert level people going head to head with each other, you're not necessarily

going to get that. But if you want more so that kind of like Gabon, Survivor 46 messiness of like everyone's trying and not a lot of people are succeeding in that variety, Brains versus brawn is incredibly entertaining. The biggest sticking point against it is this is far end away the twistiest season in Australian Survivor history. They brought on a new showrunner for this.

Cremely have a wrong here, Shannon. I believe they were like a previous showrunner on maybe Big Brother. And it definitely shows because they mix in these advantages and non-elimination twists and short-time twists flagrantly throughout,

egregiously, I would say. in my opinion, my least favorite twist in Survivor history globally. You know, there's a bunch of stuff that have. Yeah, but even so, yeah, it succeeds. And I think I said at the time, even, like, this is a season that succeeded in spite of what production was trying to do, because this cast was eager to play from the jump.

Some of them, you know, use the twist to their advantage. Some of them did not, but it is an absolute roller coaster of a season from beginning to end. And it is massively and massively entertaining. But with the mess Like there are some of the best moves in Survivor here Like there's some really great gameplay as well So I don't think like it's just full mess

Like there are people that are great I also think like firstly why are so many cast photos Popping up in my backstage here Like is what is like what have you done? I was throwing this together the last second And the copy of pace was working I must see the PowerPoint so Yeah I just used the All Stars photo

I mean make sense given the fact that that's we'll get into. Quite a number of returning players show up. Okay. Just I'm like, all I saw was like, I'm like, wait, how bad is the PowerPoint that I just keep seeing Gospers? This is why I don't work in a corporate setting anymore, Shannon, okay? I can't make a PowerPoint for my damn

life. The fact that I was like, oh, yeah, a power point. The power point was like such a colossal disappointment. Wow. Sorry, it was a disapower appointment. All right, all you got me there, okay? I will accept the massive insults for the pun. You know where to hit me, guys. So few people are going to understand.

Like, so few people need to listen to this and they'll understand how much I'm enjoying this. Anyway, I wanted to say that... See, look, if you want to relish in people's mistakes, watch Australia Survivor Brace versus Braun. I'm trying. We would have thought that this podcast would be the one. It was just a power appointment. I think I made myself. But anyway, what I wanted to do.

to say was that there are four really important returnees in this season. I come back on heroes versus villains. You know, it's kind of like how the four Micronesia players are so important on heroes versus villains. Like, it's that era that's like, it's right before, a couple of years before, and it's like this block on another really great season and Heroes versus Villains is so good. So like, you're going to want to watch Heroes versus Villains and you should watch this as a precursor to that. Anyway, skipping over not to the next PowerPoint, but to the next cast Thank you. To a season that maybe we'd advise people to skip altogether.

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are all newbies, all newbie pairs coming in together. We do have, I believe it's three returning players from Australian Survivor and then we have Sandra. Sandra D.S. Twine shows up and making her debut interestingly on Australian Survivor is the American daughter of Sandra Nina Twine. It's such a random cast.

Like it is so regular. why the players they chose like they have one like couple from Australian Survivor and then they have like one other returning. Yep. With his sister for reasons and then Sandra and then newbies

and there's not a lot of fans in this cast like there are some icons I will say which comes with sort of the blood versus water territory right like if you're casting two people they both might not be big fans of the show and so you sort of kind of get these come with people and

sometimes listen there are people who impress coming on as the loved one of sort of the main appeal to be brought on sometimes it's not necessarily the case I mean I think the big thing to know is that this is another season where there's an entire stretch of episodes where I recommend outright people do not watch uh where listen I'll just get into it there's a streak where people are voted into purgatory and then the vast majority of them are brought back immediately so it feels like almost one of those times where you're like why is this worth watching the post merge is definitely pretty stagnant now there are some really interesting and highly discussed moves that are made one of them consider maybe one of the most brutal moves

made in australian survivor history but i think this is one of those cases where like if you are not a fan of the main characters of this season you were not going to be a fan of this season yeah it's very heavy like yes there are some very interesting moments but it's all kind of like a little dark like even at the time it was like we're discussing a lot about like people's marriages and people's relationships some of the relationships were like the brother and boyfriend of the same person who was not on the show who was a celebrity and who actually would go on to marry another person in this house not marry but they have two kids um which is just a crazy so it's almost worth it for that law alone um no it's not it's not worth it for that um it's just like they're

really interesting moments that we debated but did we ever have fun like not a huge amount of fun to be honest not really so and this one is like it's also not that important yet it's also a lot later but it's not that important in terms of the returnies like we do have Nina comes back thought he comes back is that it yeah so far yeah so this one this one probably is the least relevant in terms of like what you're going to get quality wise and then like how much you need to know like AU 2016 it's the first season it sets it up there are plays you may need to know like All-Stars is obviously going to be part of the journey of a lot of players that you know, but this is not even doing that.

So it's just not that important, I don't think. So you could argue that we hit the low point of Australian Survivor. Again, your mileage may vary or kilometers may vary with this. But luckily, we followed up with a pretty dang good one-two punch, Shannon. And the PowerPoint does work this time. We'll see what the power. We don't know yet. Heroes versus Villan.

So this is a hybrid season that is pretty much. half-returnies, but not exactly for reasons. I think it's like it's 11 versus 13, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, this is such a fun season though. Like, this is, has the episode that everyone always talks about, they kind of put Australia Survivor on the map.

Episode 7 that the New York Times was one of the best episodes of TV in 2023. It's just so good. Like, I think from the very, well, not the very beginning. The premiere is not great. After that, it's so good, I think. Yeah, there'll be a lot of players

that you care about coming back. And it's just a, it's just a really fun time. This one is definitely one to watch. Yeah, so it's a little bit of a very weird theme season and maybe we'll get into this with the season that's coming up in the near future. But it's heroes versus villains and it's hybrid. But it's basically like each tribe is half returnees and half newbies.

So the newbies are coming in and either being cast as a hero or a villain. And, you know, your mileage may vary again as to like, who is affronted by being called a villain. who takes being called a hero on the chin. But yeah, this is a season that gets off to a little bit of a slower start, but really picks up. This is another one where there's like one tribe in particular, especially pre-swap, that is just full of so much interesting and invigorating content.

Let me listen, I'll go into it a little bit, much like Heroes versus Villains U.S. proper. The Villains Tribe has a lot of chaos going on. The Heroes Tribe, maybe not so much, whether it's due to the theme or the people that were cast. This season also features, I think, a couple of moments that are maybe some of the most viral moments that have popped out of Australian Survivor

where, you know, one contestant will tell another one that she feels more African-American than her because she lived in Africa. The premiere was bad. The premier, yeah. But there's another one, you know, of a cheekily, quite literally placed idol as well that has also made its way around the internet.

Yeah, this is a very fun season overall. I think the post-march, kind of like Heroes vs. Villains U.S. proper, is one of these things for like, One big alliance makes a few really fun plays towards the beginning. I will say that this season is really anchored by the returnees. Despite only making up half the cast, it's very kind of like micronesia coded,

where these returnees absolutely bring it. This is where George and Shawnee will both get brought back. This is where you heard a little bit about, you know, their own sort of history on AU versus the world. This is where it starts. but cannot recommend this season highly enough. You know, again, if you haven't watched some of these people's previous seasons, it might spoil just how they did previously,

but it doesn't really matter because the stuff they bring on this season, even without prior knowledge, is so, so good. I do think Watch Brains be wrong. Like, I do think that that is a really good, like they're kind of like a one-two punch, but there are really good storylines here, but without spoiling, it is a bit tough, but it's a lot of fun. It's really, really good. I mean, look at that, like, yellow and purple.

What a wonderful, even color comedy. It's just, it's iconic. It's super fun. People complain that it slows down a little. I was having fun with it the whole time. It's just, yeah, highly recommend this season. I don't know if I had, do we have more on the season? No.

No, I mean, let's get into the next one here, because if you want a really good season and you don't need to be spoiled on previous returnees placements, may I introduce you, folks, to the gloriousness that is Titans versus Rebels, which at the time we were kind of calling champions versus contenders three, right? Because this theme doesn't really make any sense. Titans versus Rebels is such a good season.

It may be the best season of Australian Survivor. People have said, Puyah says it's his favorite season in global Survivor. It's mine as well, yeah. Yeah, really? Of all time. Not of all time, no. I'm definitely an Australian Survivor. Yeah, and I think the thing with Titus V rebels is it's a newbie season, so you can,

you can start with this one if you want to feel like, ooh, the best ever. Like, I think start of 2017 and work your way up. If you're impatient, you can do it, but you should know. that what Australian Survivor does is it wrecks or ruins the spoils, I should say, the prior seasonal, sometimes prior seasons. Yeah, we should say

if we should have said for 2017, if you don't watch 2016 and you don't want to know what happens, do not watch like the first five minutes of Australian Survivor 2017. It's usually like the first minute. Yeah, like JLP will be like last year, this person wanting, oh, come on. So I'm usually giving that spoiler warning, but you can start with Titans v. Rebels.

it's so fun it's a all-newby cast and it never slows down I think every like from the first episode the first episode is so good and it just it's so good throughout

like I've never seen a season so chaotic that changes so many times that won't let me rest for one second like if you want to see 24 episodes that are all good

yes this is a season for you and I think and then like other seasons aren't really much below that. But, I mean, the bar is high. And Titus v. Rebels, I think Clea's that bar. That's the thing for me is that, again, you come into Australian Survivor with some base level expectations. Not all 24 episodes are going to be bangers. You're not going to get a lot of story from all 24 cast members. This is the exception to be. This feels like maybe the sole, maybe besides 2017,

Australian Survivor season where it feels like everyone kind of had a storyline, or you knew something a little bit about everybody. Everybody had a big role to play. You would say that even the post-merge, again, we've said for multiple seasons here, even some of the most beloved ones that, like, yeah, maybe it slows down towards the end game of the post-merge. The post-merge was the most unpredictable in Australian Survivor history, where, like, it wasn't even voting blocks.

It was just people moving independently, individually, each and every episode where you can never tell what was going to happen. It contains one of the most deliciously complex dynamics that I have ever seen across 25. years in Survivor. If you watched AU versus the world, this is Kirby's original season. And if you've got a taste as to like the Geneseequashi brings to that season,

just wait until Titans versus Rebels. Yeah, and it's like we haven't seen any other attorneys but Kirby, but obviously this was only last year. So the hope is many more will come back, maybe one hopefully soon. They could cast so much of this cast again in future season.

So the hope is that that is what we do. So, yeah, highly recommend this season. um we will keep going here to brains be brawn too this was only earlier this year this one is the weirdest one for me because this is the most midseason we have i truly think like i said like everything's an extreme even 2018 is two extremes and make it mid but this is like i mean i think i enjoyed it more than most i think the edit's not great i think the story is better than the edit showed i think the cast is good and bad um yeah i would say there's this is one case where one tribe kind of contains a lot of the entertaining forces that exist on this season.

And the good news is that we see them often enough that it makes that pre-merge pretty fun. You know, there is like a certain alliance that again, we continue to talk about complicated dynamics, like, you never knew every episode how they were going to be. Are they on? Are they off? Who's working with whom? Who's feuding with whom? And that dictates a lot of the post-merge as well. But I agree. It's kind of hard, especially now that we're examining this like months after the fact, kind of like, place the face. on how you feel about this season because it definitely did not hit the doldrums of like certain patches of 2016 and all stars and blood versus water but there are sparing moments where it really

hit the high highs of some other seasons as well you know it's like a fairly replacement level Australian survivor season which is so rare in Australian survivor like you know the chart that I have with different colors like if we have like three red seasons for me for 2016 all stars and Blood versus Water, and then, like, a lot of green seasons, and then pretty much just this in 2018, which is in the yellow of like, yeah, if you want to. I enjoyed it, I think, more than most. I think that's fun stuff there. I think that pre-merge is more fun than the post-merge. I would agree with that. And I think it's also a weird situation where I guess there was stuff happening behind the scenes where, like, certain characters, including endgame ones, will be

severely under-edited, where this is a season where very much you could see the utilization of the at it to be like, hey, here are the main characters of the season, and you're going to see a lot of them. Because these are the good characters. I think it's a tale of two casts very much. Yes, yes. And it like has to rely on some plays, but those plays are fun. So I think I enjoy it more than most people, but it depends how much you want to.

We've not seen anyone come back yet, but this was this year. So we'll see how it goes. Do we have more? I mean, we have most, I put Australia versus the world here. Chances are you've seen this season. You should watch Australia versus the world. Go through the journey to get here last. Yes, because it is so freaking good.

I think if we're talking about it in particular from the Australian players' perspective, you know, I think any estimates you would have as to like what certain relationships might be going in promptly get blown up once everyone's feet hit the same, which is ideal for an All-Star season, right? Like, that's what you want.

You don't want these seasons that are essentially dictated by prior relationships. They make things incredibly exciting. You know, without getting into too much, I think the edit does speak to one person particularly dominating things, but it doesn't make anything any less exciting. And even talking about the World Tribe as well, obviously, if you're a U.S. fan, you know basically half of them

in the form of Surrey, Harvardy, and Tony. But I feel like everyone else on that tribe as well, the other four members are no slouches. I think they all kind of prove their own worth from their own unique perspectives in the season. And there are a couple people that I feel like are pretty gravely underedited just due to the circumstances of it all. but such an enjoyable season

some people call it one of their if not one of their favorite Australian Survivor seasons like one of their favorite returnies seasons ever it's incredibly strong it's only 16 days it's only 14 players it's only 10 episodes but what a 10 episode stretch and if that is all you've watched and you think that was amazing

I honestly think that the green seasons we just discussed are as good like I think you will get stuff I mean it's very different because it's so long and I don't think that this is like well that's by far the best compared to some of those seasons I think people would put things like Titans Veribals higher

or Heroes vs. Villains or 2017. So basically there are three tiers that we have given you. Now we can close the PowerPoint. It was so good, Mike. It was so good. Oh my God, thank you. You're not lying to me, right? No, it was so good.

So the three tiers, green tier, 2017, 2019, which is Champions Contenders 2, Brainsley Braun 1, Heroes, villains, Titans v rebels, those five seasons, a UV world. I honestly think all six of those seasons are worth your time. If you really want great survivor, if you just want to watch a couple seasons, like you pick any, you know, like they're all good. Maybe what go to Titans v. Rebels if you want one or something. But I think go for all six. Like that's genuinely how high I'm putting those six, because I think they're all great.

Then if you, my yellow seasons, so you do those six and then chronologically, you also could add in 2018, Champions versus Contenders 1 and Brainslee, Braun 2. And then if you want to do it all, then you would add in the other three seasons, 2016, All-Stars and Blood versus Water. I think those are the three tiers. But if six very long seasons or five long seasons in AUV world seems like a lot, I get it, but they're really good.

They're up there on the best Survivor globally. Highly recommend. Yeah, and then I guess, yeah. I mean, the last thing I would want to mention is like, hey, if you are looking for more Australian Survivor, you don't want to go into the backlog, you only need to wait seemingly maybe, what, like four, five months at the most

because there will be a new season. coming out next year. We will have a... Considering, yeah, Shannon's personal timeline. We will have a new host. The venerated JLP, unfortunately, is not continuing with the program. So we will have David will be the host.

And it's been announced, right, I believe, as Australian Survivor Redemption. So, again, this is one of these... With some returnees, we don't know if this is going to translate to an outright redemption island concept, given the similarity in names, or whether it's, again, this loosey-goosey idea of, like,

you all need redemption in your lives, which again is very odd in terms of newbie casting, but we should be seeing another season coming up. So again, this is sort of like your guide to going back and binging some of these seasons while you wait for that. Otherwise, again, we have a US season to also keep your appetites, you know,

sated on the way to it. Just wait until early next year when Australian Survivor Redemption arrives on our screens and you can watch another season live with all of us. It's hard because they said Redemption Island. I was like, okay, cool, I can have a kid. And then I was like, maybe North Island. Wait, is there a redemption island or not? Now I am having a kid. So, yeah, that helped me make that decision, but now I don't know. Also, we could do this in the future. We could do a sequel on other international seasons. We could do like a UK, New Zealand, South Africa thing if people want that. Especially, again, if you've watched versus the world, and you want more of a guide to these specifically English-speaking international seasons, because as Shannon has done so well over the past near decade, there's a lot of great stuff out there.

And there's coverage, right? So there's coverage for all of this and this coverage for. all the English-speaking survivor that we've done on RHAP. So that's pretty much it. Mike, what else do you have going on? Well, as I mentioned before, and if you're just looking for more Survivor in general, can I interest you in Survivor 49, which is premiering a little over a week at the time we are recording this?

You know that I've got a lot of coverage going on there in the preseason interviews with all the cast members over at Parade. We'll be doing Exip Press there as well, doing the B&B with Leanna. And then the other big thing I've got going on this fall is the Big Brother Amazing Race hybrid season, which is coming out the day after. So if you are a fan of any of those shows,

check out all the coverage I have going on there on RHAP. Otherwise, you can check out everything I'm doing at a Mike Bloom type. Well, if you watch AUV World, we're doing a lot of postseason coverage. We know GlobalSviver.com for all of that. As Shannon Gates, I had, I'm not going to say it, I guess in case you haven't seen AUV well, but I've been doing a lot of ex-interviews and post-season interviews.

So that is all happening. Follow the coverage for all of that. but that's going to be us here. I hope this has been helpful to the people who want to start their Australian so I have a journey. Hope you enjoy. Good luck with All-Stars. So the people who bravely choose to do it.

Thank you, Mike. As always, wonderful PowerPoint. Powerpoint. Incredible job. You butcher the PowerPoint as much as I just bouch it saying the word PowerPoint. Yeah. Thank you so much. Thank you to all team behind the scenes.

Thank you all. And I will see you next time. Bye. Twenty-one South Africans. Twelve ordinary Australians. Just stay, New Zealand. One million pounds. Million pounds.

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