RHAP: We Know Survivor - The Social Game Ep 5: Devin Walker Mansplains Valentine’s Day

Episode Date: February 13, 2025

This week on The Social Game, Michele and Kellie are joined by Michele’s boyfriend and The Challenge mainstay Devin Walker. Devin dives into his relationship with Michele, their first Valentine’s Day together, and how to properly mansplain. Kellie puts Michele and Devin’s relationship to the test with a special The Social Game edition of The Newlywed Game.

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Terms and conditions apply. Have you received a red light or speed camera violation in the mail? Vehicle owners can pay or dispute online. Learn more at toronto.ca slash aps. All right, everybody. Welcome back. Episode five of the Social Game Podcast. It's a very special Valentine's Day edition. We got Michelle in her red sweatsuit in the honor of Valentine's Day. Before we get going, I just want to remind you to subscribe wherever you get your podcasts, Spotify, Apple, watch us on YouTube.

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that is my boyfriend joining us today, Mr. Devin Walker. Happy Valentine's Day, everybody. St. Valentine actually was kind of a D bag, so. Really? No, I don't know. I think so. I'm not sure. You know the story, I don't know.

Please, please enlighten us. A little shot in the dark. One Valentine's Day, I did do like a bunch of research and then like I did like a drunk Explanation of all of it and and it's one of those things that I just haven't kept in my brain But I would say Google it. I think there is some Mess up some shit that went down. Mm-hmm. Pretty sure. This was last Valentine's Day. You look this up No, it was it must have been two or three because I was in my old apartment in my bed being like in Valentine

Yeah, absolute sham. Yeah. Yeah. Paul Mark Holliday. Exactly. I have a question for you guys before you have some questions for me. Do you have a name for your listeners? Oh, like like our like what we would call them, like our fan club type thing. Yeah, because I have a suggestion.

OK, already coming in with the suggestions. He did his own intro. Now his suggestions. You know, he's he's boyfriend of the podcast I get titled yeah, so let's hear it let's hear it Are you guys it would aid you have a name for them? No, we haven't really know about that. No, okay How do you like the socialites? I? Mean I love the social that's great I love the socialite. That's great. Yeah.

Let's go baby. Let's mark it down. That's pretty good. Damn, Devin. I know. I'm coming. Put you on the payroll. I'm coming with fire right off the rip.

I actually only agreed to do this for a monetary sum. So technically I am. Yeah, it's the two beers in your hand right now. I technically am actually on the payroll already, but you heard it here first. Thanks for tuning in socialites. Happy to have you here and happy Valentine's Day. If you're a socialite comment below. Yeah.

Oh man. Hashtag socialite, hashtag Valentine's Day, hashtag Devin on the social game podcast, hashtag Devin's Valentine's Day social game podcast. Wow. Hashtag please stop so we can start. Fair enough. Hashtags don't even work anymore. Did you hear this? Oh, my God. Really?

Someone just like papped. I don't know if that's the right word. Like Instagram founder. And he was like, yeah, hashtags don't work anymore. Wow. That's like breaking news right here. I've never been socialized. I've never been one to hashtag unless it's like really ironically. So I don't know that still works in this situation.

Yeah. Yeah. Right. So we actually we haven't been affected by this change. Absolutely no effect. Hashtag not affected. Hashtag couldn't be us. Yeah, can be us. Not today. Oh, my God. All right. Great. Well, if you guys-

Hashtag has lost all meaning. I'm good with the pre-pod. If you guys wanna get rolling and introduce me, then- I think you've introduced yourself. Yeah. I am sitting here in a bejeweled red sweatsuit, just excited to have my boyfriend on the pod to show you guys what it is like to date Devin.

Day in and day out. All right, so this is not your first Valentine's Day or it is? It's our first Valentine's Day together. Oh wow. It's my first Valentine's Day ever. I've never celebrated it with anyone else because they weren't worthy and that's a quote.

Michelle's worthy. And that's a quote that you socialites can take to the bank. Hashtag first Valentine's Day. Yeah, we actually are. We. Oh, you can cheers us. That's OK. You're you're like in it. You're like our third. Don't talk, Abby. Well, I just got to sign that role, but that's OK.

Yeah, consent is key. Yeah, right. Right. And me and Devon, we didn did say we'd have to discuss that. So sidebar. Unbelievable. Anyway, on our PG podcast as discussed previously. Unbelievable. So let's talk about your PG Valentine's Day plans.

Do you guys have anything? Are you surprising each other? This is early relationships, so you kind of got to kill it. Well, I don't think we have actually any, like we're not going gonna do anything for each other But we're going to the Bahamas and we're staying at Valentine's Resort on Harbor Island for Valentine's Day. So Staying at Valentine's on Valentine's, but I think it's just gonna be a regular day in the office, right?

Well, I had a whole like message written in the sand planned, but apparently We're gonna have another day in the office. So I guess. Just another day. Michelle, you got a couple days to think of this out. I guess my plans are shit and I should quit. No, I think, yeah, we're just gonna kind of post up on the beach.

Nice. Hang and bang, can I say that? You certainly can. And Nice. Hang, hang, hang and bang. Can I say that? You certainly can. And I hope. Hashtag hang and bang. Can I say hashtag hang and bang or? I think so. And that does sound like a great plan to me.

I let him pick out my swimsuit. So. Yeah. Very nice. He got to choose my Valentine's swim outfit and he'll be wearing a Speedo, which I didn't choose, but. Yeah, no spoilers. I think that, I think Speedo may come up later in the pod.

Oh really? Wink, wink. Why are you winking on a podcast? Speedo's was like the last thing I thought we talked about. Clickbait, ever heard of it? I think my Speedo may make an appearance later on the pod. Oh man. If you know what I mean.

I certainly hope so. Clickbait. Clickbait. Clickbait. Are you really a speedo guy? Yeah, I were yeah What's what what happened in your life to make you a speedo guy? What went right you mean? You're you love the speedo. I love it more thigh the more thigh I get up to in the better Should I drop my like favorite eyes out my favorite like I once insulted Brandon so badly No favorite. My favorite. Like I once insulted Brandon so badly. Oh no. Because my main ick about men is their thighs.

Wow. That's interesting. I really don't like man thighs. No, sorry, Devin. It's like they're so white compared to the rest of their body. Well Devin's aren't. Mine aren't. That's why you have this. You know what? That's what I've been missing with men this whole time. I learned quickly pale thighs are an ick. Yeah. I said not on me. Wow. I learned quickly pale thighs are an ick.

Yeah. I said, not on me. Wow. I won't allow it. Someone figured it out. Yeah. But that's my basic. My boat is called the Thightanic.

Yeah. Really? Yeah. Oh my god. It truly is. And here's the thing you asked me why I wear. It's nice and smooth. 100%.

You want to, if anyone's interested in going 12 MPH. That's almost throw up count one on this podcast. Yeah, if anybody likes going 12 MPH and cruising, I'm your guy. Yeah. If that's your number, like going nice and slow down the river. 12 MPH, is this like a little rowboat? Yeah, down the river. No, like a little row boat? Yeah, down the river. It's a pontoon.

So Devin's chain smoking cigarettes, drinking beers and I'm in the back tanning and reading my book. And that's that's our life in the summer. It truly is. Now I'd like to circle back to a question that you asked and you said, Devin, why I ask you any questions. Would you? Would you wear it?

I asked about the origin of the smoke. What happened to you to become a Speedo guy? So short answer, quick answer. I have an absolute cannon dump truck set of cheeks and elite thighs. And it would be a disservice,ervice truly to art as a subject. If I weren't to sport a look that emphasized those traits. And that's the answer that you can hold me to. You can try to argue. You can try, but.

You can give it a shot. Happy to debate you. Happy to debate. I already made my feelings on you. I've known. Check his OnlyFans, guys. Happy to debate. Right after the socialites like and subscribe our podcast,

you could head right onto his OnlyFans to see his cans. And, you know, I get to see them every day. Blessed be. Right after we tickle those earbuds, you can get your eyes painted. That didn't work. We're going to revisit that moving on. Oh, now you're ready for our questions. Yeah, I'd love to.

You sunk your own ship with that terrible analogy. And now that I've now that I've sunk the Titanic. No bad, bad joke. It'll never sink. it's unsinkable. All right, let's do this. I guess I'm curious, you know, I've seen, I came into your life only recently and Devin's always been here.

What was like the, you guys were like friends before, what flipped the switch? When were you like, we're gonna date for realsies? Was it when you saw him in a speedo? No, well, so when I first met him, truly one of the first times I've ever met him, he was in a speedo and it was love at first sight. Really. I mean, it was my birthday on spies, allies and allies. He was in a relationship, so it wasn't like that. Well,

it was like that for me, but not for him. So I decided to trap him into being my partner and, you know, harassing him into the place that we are now. But basically for my birthday, it was me and Logan's birthday and he did like a little strip tease situation. No, it wasn't Logan. I thought that was more recent. It certainly was Logan. No, that was season 37.

It was Spice Lies and Allies. I saw that on like Twitter the other day. You were doing a dance for Logan. Yes, it was me and Logan. I know for a fact he's a me. It was Logan? Yes, he's May 4th on May 5th. We were both rookies.

Devin did a strip tease. Interesting. And Devin took off a sock, flung it and it hit me in the face and I said, and he was in his speedo and I said, Pelted her. Ah, it's love. Yeah, pelted her with a sock, with a wet pool sock. Wow. And that's what did it. Yeah, well, you know.

Well, a few other. On orthodox methods, but. A few other things. It worked, again, with an ass like this and thighs to match, You'll take a sock to the dome on your B day. First meet, no doubt. Okay, people are lining up down the block for that type of treatment. Quite the gift, quite the gift. You were like a friend's first kind of vibe. We were friends.

I think we... Friend's first kind of vibe. Yeah, definitely. We talked a lot and just in a friendly way. He was in a relationship and then honestly, when we really started talking, he was not in a relationship. He had been out of it, but he had banned and completely decided he swore off all women.

And so I knew I really had no hope. That is completely inaccurate. 100% accurate. I had not sworn off all women. You swore, well, you swore them off for dating. I wasn't going to have another girlfriend ever. Ever? Ever, yeah.

So sworn off women. Wow, Michelle, you really. Sworn off girlfriends. Sworn off girlfriends. Some power you have then, Michelle. Yeah, well, you know. What's her Speedo equivalent that did it for you Or what sock what is her speedo?

Equivalent and you know, I mean that was the water topical like yeah and poignant question. Thank you I'm gonna go with Michelle's speedo equivalent has got to be Well, I want it to be an article of clothing. I want it to be sweatsuits. It isn't. I want it to be. For the socialites, we want that. I want it to be, but it's not. Hashtag get your socialite sweatsuit at the link below. What I would say is probably her crosswords.

Yeah. That's so wholesome. Yeah, I think Michelle's crosswords really got me because it's quality time. You get to see how somebody's so whole. Yeah, I think Michelle's crosswords really got me because it's quality time. You get to see how somebody's brain work. Crosswords are sex on paper. They're essentially an erotic novel. I don't think anybody's ever said that.

Crosswords are essentially an erotic novel. And I know, and she is a sucker for like a sexy fairy book. I do love a fairy book. No way. You like romance novels? Not romance. It has to be fairy themed? No, no, no.

It's like, it's specifically fantasy. Fantasy, yeah. It's like that deep fantasy, there's romantic. Smutty fantasy. Yes. Romantic. Romantic, yeah.

It's like slutty fairy. With some smut though. Yeah, smut. Oh, smut. Yeah. I love it. Happy Valentine's Day. Happy Valentine's Day. With some smut though. Yeah, smut. Oh, smut. Yeah. I love it. Happy Valentine's Day. Happy Valentine's Day.

If you're not reading Akatar, if you're not reading Throne of Glass, if you're- Throne of Glass, everyone was reading that at Ponderosa, I think. Is that right, Brandon? The pizza place? No, no, well, Fourth Wing, if you're not up on your fairy porn,

your dragon fantasy, if you're not captured by a witch in some way, then you're not really living. This sounds like light bestiality. If you're not up on your dragon porn, it's something my girlfriend said on her podcast. I just like to point that out. Yeah. That's a direct quote.

And you know what? I stand there. I stand by it. It's the perfect thing to pick up for Valentine's Day. If you don't know, if you're here and you don't know what to get for your girlfriend, your boyfriend, if you're single and you'd like to remain that way, head over, head over to your local bookstore and look for a throne of glass. And then also pick up a nice crossword puzzle, because apparently that's sex on paper. No on paper. No, but I will say like,

I always bring a crossword into the challenge house. And I do like to collaborate on crosswords. I think a lot of people think of them as a solo thing, but people know things that you don't. Like, I don't know sports. There's always a few sports questions in there. Like there's always, I'm not good at actors or actresses. Turns out he's not either. So we're going to shut out on that one.

But like you find you know your niche. I'm good at spelling. He's maybe not so much, but he is like quick. Actually, can't can barely read. Yeah. So like, you know, I find it truly can't stop. Couldn't read till I was 16. True story. Yeah. Ask me to spell socialite right now. I'll butcher it. Can't.

OK, how do you spell socialite? now. I'll butcher it. Can't. Okay, how do you spell socialite actually? I won't be able to. Actually can't. If you can, we're gonna make you a custom speedo that says socialite. Well, this could be how you guys spell socialites, which is interesting.

Now, I don't know if there's a Y or an I in there. I think there could be two. So spell social. Okay, well, I'm working on it. S-O-C-I-L, that part I have. What? No? No. No. That's my brother L. That part I have. What? No, no, no. That's my brother.

S O C I A L. So and then I think it's Y T E S. No, I think it's I know why. There's no why. I think it's a hundred percent no. Why? I'm pretty sure you're being booed by the audience. There's no why. There's no why. I think it's S.L.C.I.A.L.I.T. 100% no why. Oh. Yes, I'm pretty sure. You're being booed by the audience. Yeah, we've got we've got Michelle's brother here and he is booing us.

No, I'm not. I agree with Devin. No, this is biased. Yes, baby. All right. Well, anyways. If you didn't know, I went to Yale. Oh, my gosh, we finally were. We forgot to address this. I have you.

Spilled socialites. S O C I A L I T E social. I think that's correct. Oh, interesting. Anyway, I mean, a Y always has a little flair like a Y. I like why would you say like as an L.Y.T.E. Like it's electrolytes. I love the word Y.

The way you just spelt it. OK, we'll change it. All right, Joe, thank you for your input. Now you can sit down and enjoy the podcast like the rest of the socialites. Maybe we could spell it like that. Well, let's just talk about the letter Y for a little while. Let's talk about its versatility. Okay, let's talk about how it's one of the only letters that imitates a street

that has a street named after it. Like a fork in the road is a Y. Nobody calls it a Y. There's S turns. Hello? There's K. You're wrong. There's a L.

What's the C one? I don't know. If I keep getting called out. I'm going to walk off. OK, I'm done with it. D towards let's talk about wise. All right, let's talk about wise. Well, why do I say about wise?

Why are we still talking about their continent and a vowel sometimes? You just am I going to let that slide? He said it's a continent. said, it's a continent. No, he said continent. Are you sure? No, I said continent. He did say continent. Yeah, there's eight continents.

Asia, Australia, Europe, North America, South America, Antarctica, and why? That's seven. And you're missing anyway in Africa in Africa and why? Obviously, the eight one. All right. But you know what? We're not here for that.

So I OK, so I want to explain. I want to explain. OK, so the origin of where how we got here was asking how we ended up getting together. It does have to do with crosswords and it does have to do with we were on the show, trapped in a house. Let's be honest. And like we already had feelings for each other. We had we had went on a date our first technical day. January 25th before we went on the show.

So we were already sort of seeing each other. Twenty three of twenty twenty four. For twenty four. Twenty four. But we had been out a few times in twenty twenty three, 23 of 2024 for 24, 24, 24. But we had been out a few times in 2023, I think as well. But like technically, he said, like, first day, I'm coming to Hoboken. We're going to have a first day. And so I went into the season not really knowing like what that meant for us.

Well, let's dive into that date a little bit, because I like to use the word first. And it was our first date and my life was threatened no less than four times, none by you. So pretty much what happened was we went on a date and then Michelle was like, well, we're gonna go meet our friends. And then they formed a single file line and they each came up to me and said,

if you break her heart, we'll break your neck. And then the next one would come up and say, if you hurt her, I'll kill you. And they just cycled through. And so by the end of the date, I said to myself, well, I do value my life. And I think I'm gonna opt out. The risk rewards not here, because it's ending in death in a lot of these scenarios.

So I think I'm actually gonna head out. Yeah, my friends are very protective of me. That is true. But I mean, then. Nice for her. I went to go visit him, then we entered the show and it was it truly was like, well, where are we? Like, where do we stand? He knew that he was going to die and my friends would kill him.

If like we entered into it and it wasn't like for real. OK, for the record, I just wanna say directly to all your friends and everyone listening, none of you could kill me. Even if you snuck up on me. I could definitely kill you. I'm coming out alive. I could definitely kill you.

There's no shot. Yeah, I would quit poisoning. Okay. Happy Valentine's Day everybody. Happy Valentine's Day everybody. Michelle's friends could never kill me. They could definitely kill you. They couldn't kill me.

What about a pack of them? Michelle's friends couldn't kill me. Like several definitely kill you. They couldn't kill me. What about a pack of them? Michelle's friends couldn't kill me. Like several of them. If they all teamed up. No. Why? If they all teamed up and snuck attacked me, I would still, I'm still walking out there.

Are you kidding me? You don't think Veronica would kill you? All right, all right, Veronica, okay Kimmy, you're in the other room. You could never kill me, okay? I'm staying alive. Good luck. Happy Hunger Games. I feel good luck, everyone.

I feel very confident that my friends could easily murder you. That's besides the point. So basically, when it's just to continue this thing on the rails, we went into the show, we really had no idea what was going to happen. And then we were just like, all right, let's get on the same page here. And that that page that we flipped was to be together. And then here we are a year later. So on the show is when it became a fish.

Yes. Well, yes. I love that you love to abbreviate. Thank you. Yes. For noticing that. That's one of my favorite things that people do. And you are on fire with it. Oh, Jeff Probst, baby. Let's go. Don't start talking to me about a fish because I will get I'll get fired up.

I'll keep breathing all day. If we start a breathing. I might stop breathing. I like rhyming. I like doing abbreviation rhymes. Is this fun for you, Michelle? I like doing a brief rhyme. We're taking it to the next level.

So. Sure. I mean, all day. Take me to court. With Devin is. File charges. It's variations of him saying things and then like sort of. You said Hundo before we started.

I say Hundo P. I say Hundo P all the time. Yeah, I say Hundo P Entertainment. It's an entertainment group I started in my head. So if someone. In your head, okay. Yeah, if someone says something I agree with, I'll go, yeah, Hundo P all the time. Yeah, I say Hundo P Entertainment. It's a it's an entertainment group I started in my head. So someone yeah, if someone says something I agree with, I'll go. Yeah, Hundo P Entertainment. OK, so that's like the opposite of abbreviation kind of. But I kind of like it.

It's an extension. The same line. Same vibes. Yeah, same vibe. Different, different execution. If someone does something that I think is OK, I'll say D Sarona. But what? Like decent. Oh, D Sarona. But I it's a it's a. Sometimes me and Gabby. It's a little core I enjoy. So I'll just say DeSarona.

All right. Like Deese. Deese. Yeah. DeSarona. The little John. OK. You know what I'm talking about? Wow. Wait, could you do that one more time? I think you should do it. No, I'd like it if you did. Now I feel uncomfortable doing it again. I feel uncomfortable in general.

So I'm kind of like hoping to make you as uncomfortable as possible. That's interesting, because I don't know if I've ever been more comfortable. I feel like we're bonding so much right now. I am just here in the middle, flipping my head back and forth. Like you have the worst. You have the worst seat in the house. Yeah. You have the worst seat in the house. Yeah. Yeah. You're you're kind of cross fire here.

I'm trying so hard. You're on the cross. Or you like to're trying so hard. You're on the cross. Or you like to say the cross. Yeah, got on the cross. Yeah, not a big deal. That's a hard one. It's this is truly so difficult for me because here's the thing. A lot of the time is the best thing you could do with Devin is try to keep him

just kind of smother the energy that he's giving right now. And you're you're flaming it. You're like, you're fanning the flame. And so the thing is now he feels that he can keep. I've emboldened him to just. She's FTFing. Yes, fanning the flame, FTFing. But he loves more than anything.

I can't even keep up with what you're giving right now. Don't start my engine. Yeah, exactly. Right? Don't start my engine. And now exactly. Don't start my engine. I'm here. I'm doing this for the socialites. You know, lock me up.

I would love to. You try on a regular basis. Happy Valentine's Day. It's one of our kinks. Oh, don't be talking. That's a common one. That's OK. Don't be talking about it. Don't be talking about. That's okay. Don't be talking about it.

Don't be talking about our kinks. You don't want to talk about it? Good Lord. Michelle is as red as her sweatsuit right here. Yeah, Michelle's face has adopted her sweatshirt color at this stage of the interview. We have to wrap up the podcast. We've actually made this a shortened episode. It's been a long time.

A nice 10 minute epi. And we're going to send you on your way because you guys have loved ones to get to. You got you think this has been 10 minutes. Try 25 minutes of abbreviations. Oh, yeah. You think you think we've only been on for 10. I've been rambling for for better half a half hour. Unbelievable. Looks miserable. I will say that we have had a lot of discussions about him explaining things and maybe kind

of lightening the explanations of things. But here it seems that you're you're kind of leaning into that. Well I see. Here's the thing about mansplaining. Are you a big mansplainer? Well I'd like to explain how I feel about it. Please cut me off. Here's the thing about mansplaining. Okay, I'd love to know.

I'd love to know. Please mansplain to me. Oh, baby. No, truly, I did say, I did ask him. Hey, Joey, can you grab me an all day IPA, please? You already finished the two. Yeah. Take a couple down. Take me to court. Yeah. Time for number three.

OK. Here's the thing. I had a I had a conversation with him. Please stop. I know we're going to play a game later. And there's a question there about whatever. Anyways, I asked him, please, when you think you need to explain something to me, whatever you think the cutoff for that is,

cut it off way sooner. Like there's a limit of how much explaining there needs to be done. Right, and just like kind of like plot details when I asked you like what a movie was like, I don't need to know the main character's hair color. Okay, well, sometimes that's relevant, but you have to picture it in your head.

You have to really frame the scene. I'm like, what's up with the book you're reading? Well, she's like, wow. There's fairies. Let me tell you. No, I started at the beginning. Would you like this to be cold? No, no, thank you.

Room temp for me, please. Is there a cold one in there? Room temp. Room temper bust. That's OK, Joe. Thank you. Good job. But here's. Cheers. I do explain. I do explain too much, but now I will say that I just like to cut you off for one second. Well, maybe I can help with this, you know.

So I've had a relationship for 10 years, so I think Michelle asks questions about the podcasts that I'm listening to, and they're all like math or science related podcasts. So she'll be like, really? She'll be like, so what's quantum physics and wants like a quick answer? I'm like, I can't give it to you. Is that the only instance that he's over explained? No. OK, so let me just OK. I'm going to there. I will say that I do ask a lot of like pretty.

Like I just so I ask, I'm a curious person. Of course, I ask questions, but I don't expect it to devolve the way it does. And then there's a space where I sort of just tune out. It's typically three to four seconds after the question was asked. Three to four seconds. I would say it's more than that. If you want a short answer, just ask me how I'm feeling. But I'm bummed. Maybe you should.

Right, guys. You do like men. Michelle, the men who watch this are are probably right. And so they think right. I feel a lot of things, Devin. All right, I just like prompt him like you would prompt chat. GPT. OK, so you say, give me a three word explanation of quantum physics. OK, so I be specific. So, for example, I was just asking, like, what is IQ? You're talking about IQ.

So I was like, how do you like how do they determine IQ? So then he goes into explanations, then he starts giving me certain examples of patterns. And then he starts talking about EQ, IQ, and then sort of. And then we get to a point in it where I'm like, I probably have pretty high EQ. And he's like, well, probably not. Maybe you have more AQ or RQ or SQ or whatever it is. I actually don't know what it is.

We've now we're now about an hour into this 40 minutes or by 40 in. And somehow the thing that I asked has now devolved into me not only being slightly insulted and having to defend myself, but also I don't even know. I don't really even think I got an answer to the first portion of the question. And now we're in a whole different place. OK, well, feeling kind of bad. And I cues I cue. I know what it is.

Yeah. I cue. You're going to explain it for us right now. Is pattern recognition? I know, babe. I get it. In a three word answer. We do that one in two words. Is it really? Pretty much. Yeah.

It's why don't you give the example that you gave me? It's pretty much pattern recognition. So it's like if a number like it might be fun if we had Michelle explain it. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. OK, well, what do you think? Oh, it's pattern recognition. So. I'll give you a really easy one, two, four, six. What's the next thing?

Hey, there you go. But he gave you a much more complex one. I was like, how do those all tie together? He's like, they're square roots of 67 and then he times it by two and four. And so let's all go over that. Let's all go over the thing that I actually did give her. Yeah, okay. Which would be two, four, eight, sixteen. What are we doing?

We're doubling. We're doubling. We're timesing by two. That's not what you did. We're timesing by two. That's not what you did. Maybe you did like that. I did a version of that. A version of that, but not that. We're timesing by two. That's not what you did. Maybe you did like that. No, then you. I did a version of that. A version of that, but not that. Maybe you did, maybe I did two, six, 10. Yeah, it was something like that.

14, 18, we're adding four, right? Pattern recognition. That's what essentially all an IQ test is, Yale. She went to Yale. Hashtag Yale. She wore her Yale shirt because she knew we were gonna be talking about IQ today. Wait, do you guys know what I had a thought of last night?

And this is I'm not even, I didn't even know this was going to come up. I want to know if my sober IQ is different than my drunk IQ is different than my stoned IQ is different than my IQ on LSD. We don't need to take a test. I'd like to take four different tests on different substances. I want to see what you want. We can run that experiment. My hypothesis is you're going to do way worse.

You think so? Yes. Yes. Being drunk changes your decision making. Obviously not. Well, right. But any of them. And stone probably makes you a little slower.

High doesn't affect shit. What? Being stoned. High doesn't affect shit. It does make you slower. Yeah, you're sluggish and stuff, Jeff. What? Being stoned. It doesn't affect shit. It does make you slower and under. You're sluggish and stuff, Jeff. Well, I would. Well, again, we all have different opinions on this.

So I'd like to put it to the test. And if you guys would like to watch it, if you would like to fund our study, if you'd like to fund our studies, socialite with a why, buy a socialite with a why sweatsuit. And all the proceeds will go to me taking IQ tests under the influence of different substances. So thank you for that. I can assure you that's not where the funds will go.

Yeah. Time for a quick commercial break. Yep. Do you guys have any commercial breaks yet? You guys got any ads? No, we do. We're not really. You had a few lined up, but probably not after this. So we've had ads. Yeah. What are they? On the Spotify and the Apple Podcast. Oh, my God. What kind of ads do we have?

Have you listened to your own pod? No, I haven't. I only need to hear myself once. I cannot. The YouTube gets like, you know, we get ads on the YouTube that, like, I don't know, like a cycle. And then, yeah, there's like paid ads. I'm hoping, I'm hoping like I listen to a lot of podcasts and I'm hoping one day I get one for like

Hemorrhoid cream or something and I have to be the one to read it you all you want to read You know like the hemorrhoid cream one. No, okay, like look what IV or something. So, you know, that's fun pretty Well, I don't know how we went from hemorrhoid queen to liquid IV I think both of the pot I think the podcast I'm listening to you guys both of those Hmm, and I don't know what I think the podcast I'm listening to you guys, both of those. And I don't know what that says about the audience that listens to it. How do you think we could change the subject?

How do you guys think we'd be able to change the subject? Should we ask you a question that just open it in 40 minutes later? We'll get an answer. Oh, yeah. Do you guys want to just fill up the rest of the time on this podcast? Welcome to the mansplaining segment. Yeah. I love it. Do you mind if we do a quick new segment called mansplaining? It's Devin's favorite segment. I do think our listeners would really love that liberal use of the word.

The girl is in the games. OK, well, back to the fact. I play the game. Which game? I don't know which one. I'm very good at games. The questions. OK, well, since we've just spent the last, however long, realizing how truly thirty six, you guys are of an amazing internal clock. We're going to put it to the test.

No, you can see the stupid thing that has. The number on it. I can't see that you're looking you're cheating. I'm not cheating at all. You're using context clues. How about cheating. I'm not cheating at all. You're using context clues. How about that? I'm, yeah, my brain.

Pretty good. My bra? Yeah. What? My bra? Let's play again. Okay. I'm ready.

I have my answers. Hello. Hello, Michelle and Kelly. Sorry for hijacking the podcast real quick, but I wanted to let the lovely audience of the Social Game Pod know. Hello, my name is Pooja I am one half of the Pooja and Liana lounge a brand new podcast over here on RHAP if you're looking for Immaculate Vibes good energy and lots of lore unlocked we have got the place for you you can join us over on Poojaandliana.com

for the audio or if you're looking for the video that's every week on Fridays right here on the RHAP YouTube channel check check us out there. Anyway, back to the immaculate vibes over here on the social game. Let's go. I will say that I, we really actually do have a lot of fun together. Like that's the foundation really funny. It's like not quite as funny as I am. Maybe we should do like some positive affirmations for each other. I would love to. Okay. What's your favorite thing about each other? His humor for sure about each other. I think it's okay. What's your favorite thing about Devon and then what's your

I think you name a few if you want to I think he's really funny and I like that. He's also like super Easy going like I can put him in any circumstance situation. No, don't take adaptability. That was going to be mine. Well, I'm sorry that we're we like the same things about each other. But I like that. I like that. Like he he really prioritizes my friends, my my family. He will like sit and listen to me like spiral for as long as I need to

and then make me feel not guilty for that thing. Like I think he just understands. I mean, sometimes what I need, even before I even know what's going on. That's very sweet. And I like Michelle, my tits. No, just kidding. I don't even have tits. I'm sorry. I took the words right out of my mouth. I don't have any.

I like Michelle's cans. Sue me, file a claim. I was like, cans has gotta come back up again. File a claim. I like my queen's cans. Guilty. Guilty is charged. No, Michelle's incredibly adaptable.

You can burn her literally anywhere. She's gonna be the star of the show or she's happy taking a back seat and playing sidekick. Right? I'd say she prefers to be the main character, but she's okay being sidekick in the right circumstances. Adaptability is probably my number one trait in people in general.

Can I bring you anywhere, and will you embarrass yourself or me? I, for me, the answer is yes. Someone will be embarrassed if I'm there. It's not me. You don't embarrass me. It's typically I've embarrassed myself. But you don't embarrass anyone ever.

You're great. And you're super thoughtful and kind and an excellent chef. Which I... Wait, is this a backwards thing? Which I agree, which I really do appreciate. And yeah, you're just an overall rock star. No. Yeah, absolutely.

And he did. He doesn't. Let's be honest, I can't even I can't even cook an egg. Oh, no, no, I can't even do that. No, no, no. I really are. You a good cook, Devin? Yes. That's the secret. That's secret to my relationship is that Gabby cooks every meal and I don't cook at all. I can cook a lot. Yeah, what's that? What's the key you've been in a relationship for how long here and she's engaged. Let's flip it on her ten years ten years

What took you so long? I know did you propose or did she she proposed? Okay, please That's the vibe. Okay, that's the vibe that was clear from the start. OK, got it. Got it. Got it. That's the vibe. OK. And so how did it go down? How is that clear from the start? How does that work? We just discussed it. Oh, OK. I think it's different for everybody. You know what I mean?

That's kind of the beauty of a relationship like whoever goes to Yale doesn't propose. No, that's not the you know, Ivy League education is not necessary for proposals clearly based on how our country is going. We were together for a really long time. We got together when we were 21. We actually met when we were 17. Wow, that's crazy. Where? It's a really embarrassing story.

We'd love to hear it. All ears. It's been told on RITP before. Never mind then. No, I can tell you. Revert back to episode two. Have I told you? I've heard over a few martinis, yes. OK, so I, you know, growing up in the 2000s,

gay, closeted, I watched the show Glee for the first time. We love Glee. Didn't everyone watch Glee? OK, well, I'm just setting the stage. Yeah, we're Glee. I didn't know if you were a big Gleek. You don't scream Gleek to me. I was in Chorus. You were?

I was a part of the Northamptones. It's a regular Finn. No, it's a Finn. I was part of the Northamptones. OK, we went up against the logarithms of MIT. I'm not new. I'm not a rookie. Oh my.

Well, another thing I would love to see you in the club anyway. I hearing Barrett, I saw this character Santana Lopez. It's a beautiful, very hot cheerleader. Santa Lope, Santa Lope, if you as we know, if you will, got together with I'm trying to abbreviate Brittany. I don't know. Her last name, I forgot her last name. I don't know. Forget her last name. I don't remember Britney's.

I'm failing as a glee. So San and Brit get together. They're two cheerleaders. Very hot. And then that was the tick in my brain of like, mm hmm. This is what I'm looking for. So I was a huge cheerleader with an abbreviated name. Yes.

An abbreviated name is actually top of the list. So I met Gab, my fiance, in line. Fiance. To meet Naya Rivera, who played Santana Lopez when we were 17. I was standing behind her in line. Oh, wow. Where? In Edgewater, New Jersey.

Woo! Shout out to Edgewater. Shout out to Edgewater. AT&T store. Yeah, hell yeah. We're all true love is born. It was a mean read for her and Cory Monteith, who are both now deceased. In the iPhone 3?

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what the connection was to AT&T. Back then it was probably Razor. Yeah. I don't think I think this was high school. I don't think I was that. Maybe it was Envy, like the Envy train. OK, you guys are in line. Land the plane.

I don't think I was that maybe it was the envy. Like the envy. OK, you guys are in line. Land the plane. Dude, I'm telling you. We can we can carry this from now on. Devin, you can see yourself out. You can see yourself. You've been demoted from the social.

I tell you that this is what it's like explaining a movie to him. He said, oh, well, you have to know about the hair. He doesn't like the woman's plane. That's his name. But like the whole plot, if you're going to mansplain, you got to be down with the woman's plane. That was funny. It was a funny thing to say.

Take me to court. Funny. I guess each their own. We all have different levels of humor, I suppose. And that's not my brother. My brother says it wasn't funny. He's turned on you. No, everyone's turned on me.

I still love you, Devin. I love you too, Joe. That's unconditional. Anyway, yeah. That's the story, since you don't wanna hear any more of it. Well, no, I'd like to hear more, just faster. I actually can't take responsibility for his actions.

I'm just staring at Michelle. OK, so anyways, we have a game planned. Yeah. And well, OK, but I will say I I love that you're getting married. I'm very excited for you. I can't wait to go. You know what? I was going to invite you, but I might revoke your plus one right now. Yeah. I mean, that's fair. I look I look. We actually have a we actually actually have a rule that.

Oh, two a year. Yeah, so actually you're in the clear. He only allows two a year weddings. So I might find so anyways. No, you can bring it. I don't allow two a year. I'll only go to two a year. Right. Oh yeah.

You only allow two a year. Okay, here's. I thought you'd be like a fun dude at a wedding. If I hear Very first time in September no played by some shitty. Yeah, you're not doing more time I'd rather listen to challengers talk about their children than hear very first Simon in in September One more time. That's not I have a very Devon. Because tonight's gonna be a good night. That's not on it. Because you're gonna get divorced in three years.

So I don't wanna hear it, all right? I've gone to two, not you, not you, not you. I'm not saying you, I'm not saying you, okay? Not saying you. You guys are gonna be happily married and together forever. Also, I will even listen to my wedding playlist and you can, you know. Now, I don't like weddings because old people feel entitled,

like it's their day. Boomers, you ruined everything. Can I just talk about Boomers for a second? Do we have to? You've ruined everything. It's gonna happen if we wanted to. You've ruined everything. You guys need to sit down, lay down. They don't, Boomers don't really.

Relax, relax, Boomers. And I said that about Leo's last time. You're ruining. With a lot of Leo comments. You're ruining weddings. Okay, you're ruining weddings and I don't want to go to them anymore. So I've put two, I've put two on the docket.

Two a year. Yeah, I'm allowed, not allowed. I'm bringing, able to bring him. I will go to. To one local, one destination. This is pretty local. So I actually have a local one lined up. actually think our local time slot is already filled. I don't want him there.

OK, that's funny. Yeah, you're not. You're off the list. Freaking loser. I am. My DJ is going to be lit. I'm really fun at weddings, but I think there I guess I just went to too many in two years that were all the same. I was like, oh, my God, your special day, your special day looked a lot like the last six special days I went to.

Well, one of these things is not like the others. Oh wait, no, they actually are all the same. So thanks for doing the same thing that seven other people did this year. Congratulations, and here's $400. Not really worth it for me. And your bag actually invited, $400. Not really worth it for me. And your back actually invited.

$400. Thanks a lot. Not even an open bar. Okay, well that would be... There is an open bar. We've talked about open bars. Not even an open bar. We talked about open bars.

I haven't been to a wedding without an open bar. That sucks. Unbelievable. The nerve. Okay. Moving on. And now we know. How I feel about weddings.

Wow. Anyway, another great topic of conversation on the Valentine's episode. Moving on now, we know how I feel about weddings Anyway, I'm glad you got here a topic of conversation on the Valentine's episode I know true love we love and hate weddings. We love love if one more challenger talks about their kids I'm gonna make everyone come to my wedding and they'll just be playing very first time in September on repeat You guys will be you guys will be like dry fillets. You guys will be in dry fillets and listen in any first time in September over and over. How do you like your flight medium? Well, please exit the venue, sir.

You're 78. OK, take the trolley home at nine. We organized. We're also bystanders. We organized multiple trolleys so you could leave soon. Goodbye. I'm not really sure where to go from here. Where are we?

I don't know. Play the game. Well, could you shut up for a second and then we'll play the game? All right. I'm going to turn it down. Joe, could I have one more all day IPA, please? That'll help. Thank you. I think this is going to be your for. I'll make this better.

It's interesting because we actually have a nice low key night planned after you guys depart. We're supposed to be going to golf with Joe. If you guys thought this was going to go any other way. You know what? I didn't know which way it was going to go. Well, we've only had one other male guest on the podcast and it was West. So we really haven't had a lot of male energy. We I don't spend a lot of time around men in general.

Yeah, we can't blame you. Yeah. This is why I'm a lesbian. This is what it's like. Yeah, I know. I'm feeling pretty good about my my choice that I was born with. I've considered being a lesbian, I have to say. It's random. I highly recommend it. Yeah. Do you guys know that I'm from the lesbian per capita? Oh, I actually have heard about this. Yeah.

Michelle told me. Yeah. Number one lesbian per capita city, I believe. It's because it's a college there, right? On planet Earth. Well, it's not just because it's college. Yeah on planet Earth. Well, it's not just because college. Yeah, Smith College. It's not just because of the college. It's just like they stay there. Maybe it's been a super it's like a very liberal just place in general because of the four college area.

But yeah, I. I am tried lightly a supporter of love in any facet. And I have been since I was a top, since I was in a little red wagon at a pride parade. So all you newcomers, it's trendy now. Okay, you don't like my mansplain? You don't like it? I was in a red wagon at a pride parade when I was seven.

I wasn't in a rainbow wagon. My mom took me down there. I held on to her really long hair like a leash. Okay, everyone. Okay. Crazy. Yeah, it's true. Yeah.

Her really long hair like a leash. Yeah, she had hair down to her ankles. I held onto it like this. She would put it into three braids. Me and my brothers would hold her hair. Like three of you like this? Yeah, and she'd walk us through the pride parade. Like a like a Alaskan like dog team or whatever.

If she was going too quick. We just give her a quick shank. Oh, my God. I wish this was a joke. I lost her in Cal doors once. Cal doors. Yeah. Yeah. And some other lady had long hair

and I ran up to her. You grabbed the wrong laundry. Yanked it, hard, yanked it, never forget. She turned around and I was like, you're not my mom. She was like, who the fuck are you? What the hell? Yeah, scarred.

Also, what an idiot I was at Caldor. When I would go to the doctor to get a shot, I would go to the doctor and my parents would say, you can pick out anything you want from Caldor. I would get like a GI Joe. What would you rather have gotten? Oh, TV. True, true. Anything that didn't cost four dollars.

Cal doors was kind of lit. This is which is why, which is why kids are idiots. I was a baby. I would get a GI Joe. I wouldn't even keep it in the box. I would depreciate its value immediately upon returning home. Moving on. Anyway, I just I've never felt gay in my life. I but this is.

This is what it is like 24, seven. Well, not 24, so what if we what if we come up with like, you know, people have like a safe word every once in a while he sleeps. What do you think it would be? Like, say I'm so interested to hear this because we just talked about the real safe word or I was going to. He's an opinion about you can pick any safe word. What would it be? Oh, my God. That's a lot of pressure.

First thing that comes to worry, he'll have an opinion on it. I won't. So yes, you know, people always go fruit. Yeah. Right. They're like pineapple. Oh, right there like pineapple Right. It's not my favorite. Let's go Let's go. That's what everybody says it always number one safe word in American history Pineapple, okay. So we're gonna take what do you think? survey on that What would I prefer? I don't care what it is

I wasn't gonna say you could have one more is like when he's mansplaining too much, you just say this word. He's a ravioli. And I do, I say shut the fuck up. Got it. Which is several words. Yeah, and well, I could shorten it. STFU. STFU.

Does anyone else understand that I just mansplained that that was multiple words? At least you're becoming self-aware. Oh, self-awareness is not the issue. You just continue it despite the awareness. It's not. The disness. Self awareness is not the problem.

I will say he did try for a bit to kind of tone it down. And then I was like, so is this, is a Ruben open faced? And he's like, I don't know, you're gonna have to figure it out yourself. I'm like, so this is not the instance. When I ask you. So he went a little to him. For hell.

Took 10 hours. He took it. Took 10 hours. He took it took 10 hours. Ask me if a Rubin was open faced. Hey, honey, I'd like to order a Rubin at this diner. Is it open faced or no? It's not open. No, I actually can't. Yeah, not bad.

I can't explain. Yeah. I would have swore it was to Joe. Really? Why? So you guys just so you got a piece of you got a piece of rye, marbled rye on the bottom with you're either holding on to Sauerkraut or Russian dressing. You cut it. You cut it. How many napkins did it give you with an open face Ruben? You cut it. An open face Ruben.

Honestly, this is actually crazy. I don't know. I don't want to agree with Devon, but I have to. Also, thanks Joe. I voted that it was too. And a patty mail. Welcome to everyone else's world. I don't know. I just, I had questions about it.

Again, a patty mail would never be open faced. Well, again, I didn't know what it was. What do you think they did? What do you think they did? I'm just gonna start singing Taylor Swift cause I'm getting overwhelmed with all this male energy in here. My brother agrees with me and that's a good brother.

Devin, take notes. Play the game. All right. Anyway, on this lovely note, let's see how compatible and how well you two know each other. Don't fucking cheat over there. I already saw your answer. Well, I'm sure we have the same answers. No, we don't. Unbelievable. OK. All right. So we're going to play the newlywed game. Basically, we're going to ask them questions.

We already have them pre-answered, apparently anonymously. But now they're looking at each other's face. Apparently. No, I haven't seen his. OK, so Michelle is following the rules. Devin's cheating on par. So I'm going to ask the question you guys will reveal and then we'll discuss. You're supposed to try to answer the same thing and prove how compatible you are by answering the same thing. OK, I got it. But we'll discuss. You're supposed to try to answer the same thing and prove how compatible you are by answering the same thing.

Okay, I got it. But we'll see. All right. Fair enough. We'll start off with number one. Who would be the better trader? I wrote Devin. I wrote Michelle. Explain.

I mean, he has a way of, he, I think he has a really analytical mind. So I think it would be hard in general for him to play the Traders game. But if he were to play anything, he would play, I think he'd be good as a Trader. Okay. This is the question of who would be the better Trader, not better at Traders, right?

Who would be the better Trader on the Traders? Yes, Trader. I'd be better at Traders. I think you'd be better as traders, right? Who would be the better trader on the traders? Yes, trader. I'd be better at traders. I think you'd be better as a trader than I would. OK, I'd be a better faithful. So. Everyone's getting killed if I'm a trader. I'm going to attempt to kill them all. Episode one and win right away. Well, there's rules.

How many bullets can I fire here? What's his name? Alan. Alan. Hey, Alan, think I could get a couple extra shells. There's some people here who are rubbing me the wrong way. Yeah. All right. So I don't think I'd be I don't think I'd be that good at being a trader. I think it'd be great at finding the trader. OK, interesting. You're more of a treasure seeker.

I think I'd be able to smell. I think I'd be able to sniff them from a mile away. I think you'd be a great trader because no one would expect it. And you are so good, like survivor people in general are so good at cushioning the blow. I think I actually be good, Michelle. You may be stressed the whole time. Yeah, I guess it wouldn't be good.

You would be miserable. Yeah, she would. My mental health. You would be miserable. It would be good. Yeah. I think she would be good. My mental health would be in shambles. It would be good. Yeah, I think she would be good. I think you could have genuine emotion. You'd be overwhelmed. Actually upset about it.

And then people would believe that you were not a traitor because how could you be so devastated? I feel like I would be. Not to blow up your future game. I mean, listen, at the end of it all, if I were to be a traitor, I do think I'd be decent just because I would be such a mess. And honestly, whenever I'm in power on the challenge, I have really botched it.

But that is confusing to people. So, yeah, throw them off. Maybe maybe my lack of strategy would actually be a good strategy in the end. But I will say my mental health would be on a rapid decline because let's be honest. I don't handle those brunches would be so good. I would have breakfasts. Michelle's face when the person she voted out or or killed or whatever. Doesn't walk in. Doesn't what would you do?

You just just start crying of some immediate tears. Probably. I can't believe this. I don't know what I would do. I would. That is my biggest fear is your face would look a lot like it did the first 15 minutes of this podcast. Shopping. All right. Well, you guys technically failed that, but you answered each other, which is a little cute. Yeah. All right.

Question number two, what's something Michelle thinks she's really good at, but actually she's not. Whispering. I'm a good whisperer. I can assure you, you are. Oh, wow. I really thought I was good at that. You see, OK, so that's a trick question because I the question is,

what do you think you're good at? Of course, I think I'm whispering. How can I answer that? You're supposed to guess what he what he would think that you thought you're good at. Yeah, right. So what did you put? I have a time management time. You don't think you're good at it. Yeah. What? I know.

I love you. I think I don't think that's your strong suit, right? Here's what I will say. You're on record saying eight minutes late is on time. You told us to get here at two today and then we were here. OK, I will just. OK, so time out. OK, but I thought that maybe you would think that I well here. OK, but sometimes time management is not my thing.

OK, but then you say that I lollygag and I'm like, I'm not trying to delay us. You said that I try to delay us. You're a filibuster. You're an intentional delayer. Yeah, you're an intentional. I like the use of filibuster in that. Yeah. That has a has a phobia of being on time. You know, there's actually a thing in our short time.

I have to agree. Yeah. I agree as well. Thank you, Joe. Oh, my brother agrees. No. It's all resounding. We're not doing very good at this game.

Okay. So far, not doing great. But also, you're terrible at whispering. I just want to put that out there. We can all hear you. Oh. Huh. Some constructive feedback for the traitors.

I've heard every whisper you've ever whispered. Well, sometimes maybe I want you to hear them. Like, I'm like, he's being a real dick, you know? I don't want to say it's his face. I want to hear his feelings. But that's so weird because you do say it. I do say your face. Right in my face.

OK, healthy communication. OK, number three, what is Michelle's least favorite clothing item that Devin owns? I have two things. Let's hear them. Speedo. You know, I said, what? Your old Krusty Birkin stocks. I love those.

I know. I love those. What happened to them? They went missing. Oh, I love. OK, or I found them. I found them atop a hotel bathroom stuffed with wine bottles. It was just like one was just like popping out in Brooklyn. I was like, hmm, this is interesting. Yeah, that was. Yeah, I got the message.

Yeah, I said we went to a hotel like and I tried to throw them out incognito. But apparently you found. Oh, my God. Did you call them Brett Sheldon? Yeah. What is it called? Garth Brooks? No, no, the shirt, what is it called Garth Brooks? No, no the shirt the red shirt That's not a Garth Brooks shirt the red shirt. Oh Ricky Van Sheldon Sheldon Ricky Van Sheldon. Okay. The other thing that I that I am not a huge fan of is he has this Red thrifted shirt that he doesn't even know who the artist is whenever I go to see a perform Or whenever I go to do a performance,

like a podcast somewhere else or like a event or something, I go to a thrift store and I buy their traditional local garb. So when I went to Nashville, I bought a Ricky Van Shelton shirt. Who's Ricky Van Shelton? He's a country music superstar. Who none of us have heard of. Explain it more. Ricky Van Shelubb.

Born in 1960. Don't explain it anymore. No, but he's a country music guy and I love his shirt. It's big, it's baggy, it's cool, it's retro. And I wear it a lot. Oh, at least once a week. But we can get a picture of it and throw it on. Actually, we've got it in the back.

It's with him currently. You didn't pack it? What do you think? You didn't pack it? You thought she didn't like the Speedo? We just talked about how much she loves the Speedo. I didn't think she liked it. She made me throw one out, actually. Well, that's because it was going.

I gave it a I gave it a Viking burial. Yeah. Well, no, you tried to, which he tried to send it on a raft and burn it into the river. But apparently Vietnam has some rules against that. Which was super interesting because there was like a shopping cart and a baby carriage floating down the river, but I couldn't burn my speedo.

All right. It's like a bowling pin. I respect the environment. Yeah. All right, next question. There's someone on the bridge just like dumping a trash bag in, but I can't burn my speedo. Interesting. You done? I hope so but I can't burn my speedo. Interesting.

You done? I can be. Happy to be. Lovely. What is the most ridiculous argument that Michelle has started? The one that we will probably that we know about it, we're not going to talk about, but some secondary second most ridiculous argument. Oh, oh, I should have known.

OK, he put Katan and I put explaining Trader's strategy. Oh, that wasn't an argument. That was an argument. It was a heated conversation. He didn't talk about the strategy of the Traders. Well, because I said, oh, this is how I play it. It was like, well, that's a stupid way of playing it. I did not say that. That's absurd.

You guys have heard me for about, what are we on, 57 minutes at this point. You think that I would say something like that? Very hard. Yeah. Okay. I will say Catan in general gets very heated between us. We're not, we're actually on a break from playing it because. You guys played two player Catan? Yeah. I know. I mean, that's a recipe for disaster. We're not. We're actually on a break from playing it because. You guys played two player Kattan.

Yeah, I know. I mean, that's a recipe for disaster. It's sick. It's sick. Now, is it a bad like sick or like, no, no, no, no. Like twisted. In what world have we played two player Kattan no less than 35 times? And yet if I win ratio, if I probably 33 to one, if that's the problem, he always wins.

And I'm very I do the same thing every time. So I said for every six, can you let me win one? Just so I feel better? I do the same thing every time. You want a consolation win. Yeah, I do. I'm going to build a settlement close to your settlement. And it's going to be on a brick and wood immediate, and then I'm gonna immediately cut you off the beginning of the game.

It'll be the same thing every time. And then I'm going to the sheep pork. I'm gonna be the shepherd. I'm gonna trade two sheeps for a wheat all day long. Why don't you guys play like a cooperative game? We were played overcooked. No, we can't. We went to an escape room failed miserably. Yeah, but because you have to the podcast, we did.

I was. Yeah. I'm already drunk. I will say because the reason we failed is because you booked us for an eight person escape room and there was two of us to do that. The work of eight. Hmm. And that is why that we failed. It's not because we're stupid or anything, but they had to give us like 100 thousand hints.

Oh no. Yeah, it was pretty embarrassing. Okay, next. HALITV superstars. Okay, five. I'd like to change my answer. Okay, well let's hear it. What is Devin's grossest habit?

I wrote down I cough a lot, but I'd like to change it to mansplaining. No, I wrote Hockingly. Oh, hey, we're on the same page. I'm a coffer. Yeah, so am I. But that's mine's a tick. But you know, no, I like I don't cough really. But I like I do. It's like it's like a like a habit, like a throat clear.

You know what? I do that, too. It really bothers Gabby. She hates it. Yeah. I'm going to. Me too. I have a little post nasal drip sometimes. Yeah, I think mine's just like allergies. And once it starts, it's hard for me to stop doing it. I've never noticed that you do that. Thank you.

I hope you don't start noticing now. Never noticed it. I do cough a lot, though. I'm a coffer. That's because you smoke cigarettes. Yeah, I got to stop that. Hmm. Hmm. Interesting. OK, mansplaining doesn't...

You guys almost sent me into a micro plastic meltdown. Let me nurseplaint you. OK. Let's just move on from all this. Six. What reality show that you haven't appeared on, would Michelle be the best on? I changed mine halfway through. Oh, my God. Really? Yeah.

I hope you didn't change it from Big Brother. Oh, the summer house, because I'd rather not play a competition show. That's not really a competition. It's not competition. It's reality show. That's true. You're right. And I would choose something that I could just drink and sit by a pool and start drama. That does seem on brand.

I think you'd be so good at Big Brother. You actually would be for sure. I think you'd be so good at Big Brother. You actually would be, yeah, for sure. I think you'd be so good at Big Brother. I agree with that. I think that the live feeds, obviously, I think that live feeds in general would be. Stressful. I could be a little.

No, I'm around you all the time. You don't say anything. You're such a compassionate, caring person. The live streams would not be the issue. You're so good. It's survivor people in general, and I tried to mention this earlier, but it got breezed over, would not be the issue. You're so good. It's survivor people in general, and I tried to mention this earlier,

but it got breezed over, because I'm outnumbered. No, I'm just kidding. All the women's planning. All the women's planning around this pod is really freaking me out. And I'm gonna crack my second. So, survivor people in general

are so good at cushioning the blow. It doesn't translate on the challenge. Yeah. But I think it really would translate in Big Brother. Yeah, it's a long game. So the ultimate long game, Big Brother. Well, it's the ultimate single season long game. Yeah. Yes. That's what it doesn't.

It doesn't work. I have a ridiculous long game. The long game on the challenge is even 20 years. Like I can't write. You can't. It's the long game on the challenge is even crazy. 20 years, like I can't. Right. You can't. It's the long game and the challenge is insane. It's really even hard to.

Single season long game. The single season long game is Big Brother. Yeah. And the way that I've watched survivors, good survivors. So like Jay, I don't think is is at this because he doesn't care enough to be. He could be good at it, but he doesn't care enough to be. The way that you're good at it to really explain to somebody like why you did the thing that you did if they come back, like you'll really take the time. If I vote someone in and they come back,

I'm voting them in every single other time right away with no explanation as to why I'm doing it. I'm never going to be like, I'm sorry. I'm sorry I did this. You will stay up till 5 a.m. and talk to them about the pressures. I think that's good. But the thing is, it is. And I think that works in Big Brother. I think it's not strategy really. I really actually do care. Care, that's what I'm saying. But I actually thought about writing Big Brother. The reason I didn't was because I was, I feel like I'd be decent at any sort of strategy game

anyways, I think that's like an obvious thing. But do I want to play really stressful strategy games? Like I think I'd rather, again, Celebrity Big Brother, you'd be great. Sit by a pool, and I'd rather sit by a pool with a glass of rose and talk about, you know, how so-and-so's relationship is fun. I'd rather gossip by the pool.

I just would. Lower lift, easier. It's just more fun for me, but I will say that I do think I do fairly well on Big Brother. I just heard it is so mentally taxing. I heard, and they don't know what's going on at all. Everybody is experiencing it. Then they get out.

I think the celebrity one though. It sure is. I don't think there's big enough celebrity for that. But they get out and then people like hate them for something they've been doing this whole time. They're like, shit. It is great. They walk out the door and then there's like boo

and they are like, what? And they're like, oh, I thought I was gonna pull a love. And it's live and it's like, yeah, that is good. They like they like walk out the door and there's like boo and they are like, and they're like, oh, I thought I was going to live and it's like, yeah, that's that is. And then you find out that you have like this weird thing that everybody picked up on and they're like sniffing it and they're like, man, Michelle coughs a lot. Yeah, exactly. She like sniffs oatmeal all the time. You're like, what the fuck? She's an oatmeal sniffer. I don't want to be perceived that much. How about when they have like guys in there that just like watch people sleep?

Like, didn't that happen to Amber? What? Oh, yeah. He was on my survivor season. Caleb was he played both. We beast mode cowboy cowboy like was like a super creep of Amber. Yeah, when I won, he was like watching her snore. Yeah. Oh, that's we really. Well, I don't think she's snore. Actually, I know she doesn't snore because I just she's my roommate in All Stars 5.

She's gentle sleep. She's she's actually an angelic sleeper. She's very you'll never hear her. I had Fessy and Leroy, who you definitely can hear. And me and me and Amber were were pretty silent. Leroy had night terrors, actually. That's an interesting sidebar. Yeah, that's and we woke up one night.

Leroy was like yelling at us. And I looked at Amber and Amber looked at me and we were just like both terrified. We were so afraid. But yeah, some crazy guy was like staring at her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know, you're on a live feed. They forget you're not even going to try to hide it. You're staring at a sleeping woman.

You you're a sick pervert. Yeah, it was what's his name? staring at a sleeping woman. It's weird. You're a sick pervert. Yeah. What's his name? Caleb. What's his nickname? Beast mode cowboy. Self-imposed nickname.

I'd rather die. You were on the tribe with him? Toxic masculinity much? Toxic masculinity much? I was on a tribe with him. He got medically evacuated from her season. He basically had a heat stroke. Yeah. Devin's ever seen my he he.

Yes, I did. I watched the finale of of my season, but otherwise. I really did watch that finale. Yeah. They've forced him to sit down and watch the whole. It was like your origin story. OK, anyway, we really derailed that. Jesus, I think this is the last one. Yeah. Oh, we're just doing the reverse for Devin. What reality show you haven't been on that Devin wouldn't do the best.

Dior and Odeon Island. Hey, another two out of seven. Yeah. Try to seven is not bad. It's not bad for us. Two out of seven is not bad. He's good with numbers. I mean, he's he would be great at that game. Math, politics. Yeah.

Easily manipulable cast. Yeah. You got a bed. There's no roughing it. Snore fast. I'll win that game literally in my sleep. Yeah. And I'm a huge fan of the game. I think it's brilliantly composed. Are you watching? Yeah, I'm watching.

Michelle's not. Yes, I actually am. Oh, you are. You said I'm not going to watch it before we have Parvati on, but actually. Now I am watching. Now I am. No, you have to You said I'm not going to watch it before we have Parvati. I'm actually now I am watching. Now I know you have to watch because she's also she's incredible. She's so good. Oh, that Australian survivor didn't even know he was on. He is so good.

OK, well, I'm not caught up. I'm not caught up. So if he's out or any of them are out, I don't want to know. OK, well, a lot of them are going to be out now when this airs. Yeah. Now the concept of that game, the blending of genres into a game is that is actually what's catered and built for my brain, because if I can go back and especially if you know the previous seasons, you have something to base your strategy on. You can tweak someone else's strategy that works. Absolute walk in the park.

That's why I'm so surprised that people don't do better on these other strategy games. What do you mean? I'm really surprised about it. Like, for instance, Kylan watched all the challenges and then just like blended everybody's strategy together. And it works like doing that works, doing the research and knowing what you should everybody's strategy together. And it works. Like doing that works. Doing the research and knowing what you should do before you go in.

Doing the research and knowing what you should do. It's boring to do. And you have to have a lot of time. I've never done, I've never watched one show I've gone on ever. I've been winging it from day one. If I studied, and especially now with AI, I think you just type it in like,

what's the best survivor strategy? That's it. It'll like tell you like and just and just to play it like that way would be very funny. So I'm surprised there's too much human. I think survivor can put that in. And that would be I'm surprised people are still bad at traders. Well, here's the thing. I feel like not. I'm still surprised. Oh, God. Here we go. This is our argument.

OK. So what was the argument? Tell me about it. OK. So I said, well, I don't want to give away a strategy because that's how I would play. So. Yeah. Good point. All right. Let's not talk about it. Never mind. I want you to go on. Yeah, we can't say we can't say a ton about it. We have totally different outlooks on. Yeah.

We will sidebar this. Yeah. How to best conquer a ton about it. We have totally different outlooks on. Yeah, we will sidebar this. Yeah. How to best conquer that game. Yeah, we have two totally different ways that we would want to play it. I do think that's an interesting show because it's like you. It's not really competition reality TV veterans. There's only like six people who've played a competition show on every season of the show. So everybody else is just like the way they summer voting out people that they're just afraid of.

Is is wild to me like Wes would have been such a good ally. It's almost like everybody kind of like revert to like these. The basicness of like, do I like these people because they haven't played a game, do you know what I'm saying? I would. So like the other survivors and like big brother challenge people will be like, OK, I can tolerate this person who's now my favorite because he's helpful. There is going to be like, I don't want to be around them.

And I just say there's a certain level of who wouldn't want to be around West, though, he's so great. OK, but people just yourself. They all found him abrasive. I I agree with you that. Well, he is. He's my... All those girls, they're going to be like, hmm. He's my brand of humor.

But I do like, you know, I see maybe not for a lot of people, but for me, yes. For you, yes. But I will say... You want to know what rhymes with yes? Wes. And here's the thing. Thanks, everyone. Here's the thing that I think and that's going to wrap.

I think that people have been voting out all of like the really interesting, big characters that can carry a really fun show. Now, it's still really fun right now, of course. But I like who votes out. I am who's like she's no, They just killed her, killed her, whatever. But she's she's going to add fun value to the show. It's like. But has somebody that doesn't matter, said the show doesn't lose like

you're on so many levels of meta strategy. Yeah, I respect not having producer brain on like what's going to make this the best show or whatever. Yeah, no, I don't. From a standpoint, from a standpoint of wanting to win the game, wouldn't you want to keep around the people that suck the most? Right, yes.

So, but then- You want like the loud, bad trader being peaceful, who's like screaming at somebody else at the round table. And then in doing that, you also want to keep the person that is gonna give you the best shot catching the traders. Right. So like it should be the mezzanine people that leave.

And what I've seen so far is that it's like bottom of the barrel or top of the crop. Yep. Which is weird, because it's like neither one of these people are are a benefit for you to eliminate. I think I should eliminate on like a basic ish. Sorry. You know, I'm more like, don't apologize. Easy playing the socialists don't give a shit. The big socialists don't give a fuck. Like, yeah, like early Survivor, where you could just sit

you could wait and like do nothing until the merge and then you could, you know what I mean? And now you can't do that anymore. But like because the game's gotten so. Wouldn't it be doper if on Survivor they changed the merge to the purge and then it turned into that movie and it also slash Hunger Games, where one person you're on the island already is based on Survivor. Is it? Yeah. You guys kill each other or no?

Well, almost. We cushioned the blow. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Well, survivor. So in like 20, what's going to be 36? The merge becomes the purge and it's just an all out war. Hmm. Interesting. We'll workshop that. Jeff and Jeff. I'm not sure Jeff. I'm not sure Jeff would go for it. Jeff, any ideas?

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