RHAP: We Know Survivor - Unlocked: Survivor 50 Draft

Episode Date: February 23, 2026

Unlocked: Survivor 50 Draft Get ready for the Survivor 50 pre-season draft! The Rob Has a Podcast crew is back again for another heated battle with bragging rights on the line. Rob Cesternino hosted a legendary draft episode back in July 2025 and is now here unlocking the archives to preview this milestone season. Joined by RHAP favorites Pooya, Liana Boraas, Taran Armstrong, Chappell, Shannon Gus, and Aysha Welch, the group dives into the cast dynamics, historic returns, snubs, and strategic threats—before the season even begins. As the panel drafts their teams, they debate if Survivor 50 will be the ultimate celebration or just another showdown. The big question: will iconic favorites like Cirie finally get her win, or will a new school player dominate this all-star field? The episode highlights the palpable anticipation as Survivor 50 blends old-school legends with new era standouts, sparking fierce draft debates and predictions. Cirie is unanimously seen as a “Mount Rushmore” player, with hosts imagining her journey and the challenge of both being respected and targeted by fellow returnees. Genevieve, fresh off her previous season, is drafted early as the panel weighs her “sparkly” gameplay and possible threat level among newer players. Rick Devens is chosen for his idol prowess and understated reputation, while Christian Hubicki brings genuine likability and strategic savvy—though some old schoolers may target him. The presence of multiple cast members from Season 48 and 49 fuels intrigue about pre-existing bonds, loyalty, and rapid gameplay shifts. – Cirie’s legend status and the risk of early elimination by pre-game alliances – The debate around Genevieve’s threat level and her adaptability across eras – Rick Devens as an idol expert, quietly positioned for a deep run – The evolving views on Charlie, Kamilla, and Joe as recent players with recency bias – Funny moments like the “Hee Hee Ha Ha Have Fun” draft mantra and dramatic group chat drama As the panel wonders which era will be celebrated, the episode teases key questions: Will an old-school player finally reclaim the Survivor throne, or do new era bonds and vote splits reshape the game? Who will fall victim to the dreaded “grenade” and lose their entire draft team? Chapters: 0:00 Survivor 50 Draft Unlocked 06:57 Season 50 Winner Stakes Discussed 13:14 Draft Rules and Grenade Twist 18:33 Liana Picks Cirie First 28:25 Genevieve Goes Off The Board 39:13 Rick Devens Joins Chappell’s Team 45:56 Taran Selects Christian Hubicki 53:05 Camilla Drafted After 48 Finale 1:01:11 Shannon Gambles On Charlie 1:08:30 Rob Takes Mike White Seventh 1:16:00 Tiffany Nicole Picked For Longevity 1:22:42 Emily Flippen Next Off Board 1:27:40 Angelina Marks Old School Move 1:34:08 Taran Picks Aubry Bracco 1:40:09 Chappell Drafts Ozzy For Strength 1:47:17 Pooya Gambles On 49 Mystery 1:52:45 Liana Surprised With Chrissy Hofbeck 2:00:34 Joe Added For Challenge Prowess 2:07:16 Dee Falls Far, Finally Chosen 2:14:16 Chappell Goes With Jenna Lewis 2:21:18 Jonathan Picked Amongst Meaty Men 2:28:29 Aysha Drafts Colby For Safety 2:38:31 Shannon Selects Kyle, Last Winner 2:47:55 Rob Chooses Q Over Coach 2:58:08 Draft Teams Recap And Close LISTEN: Subscribe to the Survivor podcast feed WATCH:  Watch and subscribe to the podcast on YouTube SUPPORT:  Become a RHAP Patron for bonus content, access to Facebook and Discord groups plus more great perks!

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Rob Cessorino, back with you for something from the archives. It's a patron post unlocked. Back on June 1st, 2026, we got a chance to do our draft for season 50 of Survivor. And we had a draft of all of your well-known RHAP drafters, of course, Chappelle, Taryn, Puyah, Leanna, Asia, and Shannon Gus. and myself got together to do our big season 50 draft. The players had been out there. Nothing was spoiled and we drafted away. And the patrons got to hear it in the real time.

But we said way back when that we were going to post it once we got close to the season for real. And believe it or not, we are very, very close now. So this week, we'll watch Survivor 50. But back on June 1st, 2026, we drafted Survivor 50. So enjoy our draft back on June 1st, 2026 in this special patron post, Unlocked. Hey, everybody. What's going on? Rob Sestrino, back with you for a huge night. As with just learning the Survivor 50 cast the other day, we will have our Survivor 50 draft tonight. I don't

even think they started playing the game. No spoilers here. No way, no how everybody's gut check, Survivor 50 draft happens tonight. It is June 1st, 2025. Happy Pride, everybody. And we are ready to go. If you're hearing this in the main feed, it's because you are not a patron of Rob's the podcast. And it's February 26. In some ways, we're jealous of you because you're about to watch Survivor 50. But for us, in the real time, it's eight months. away, but here we are with our amazing panel of drafters here tonight for this stupendous draft, of course, with us a man who may have to go back to some old pet peeves tonight. It's Tarynne Armstrong, how are you?

Don't you worry? I am prepared. Listen, as somebody who is now happy to welcome a new person who has now picked two winners in this group of drafters, I. I am prepared with more research than I ever have before for this draft, Rob. Okay. All right. You watched the old seasons that they were on?

No. Why would I do that? Okay. Well, you did what we watched them originally. Okay. Here with us, the two-time champ. Here he is. It's Pooia Zambiquili.

How are you? Woo, I am doing so good. I'm so happy to be here. So excited. It's another draft and it feels good to be at the top. also, not just two-time winner, also the holder of the highest average draft placement. Oh, wow. Because that's the thing we look at it.

I can't. Congratulations. It's amazing how people care about that when they thought winning it. Oh, it still is worthless. I have it. Just everyone knows. Now, let's bring a woman who's married to a man bragging about his average draft placement. It's Dr. Leon Borence.

I'm just so happy you guys get to go through what I have to experience every single day. Complete the heart, do it. Oh. Oh. Yes, yes. Of the Pooia and Liana Lounge. It's Puya and Liana. Liana, how are you?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm doing well. I'm excited. I've no idea what's going to happen today. I've spent zero time preparing and we're going to yolo our way through this. I can't wait. Okay. All right.

Very excited to have here with it. What a day for this next panelist. Of course, she was the star of the kickoff of season four of the Pride Spoken. Here she is from Survivor 47. It's Asia Welch. Hello. Hi. How are y'all?

I'm very excited to be here. I'm ready to pick. Listen, I'm just operating on who my favorites are. That's literally it. I don't care what if the odds are not in their favor. Who cares, right? We're here to have fun. Is that what we do?

We're just here to he-he-ha-ha-ha our way through the season. If you're watching this in February, 2026, you're probably like, oh, my gosh, why you're locked so short? I know at this point, they're probably down my back. Mm-hmm. So. Okay. Well, Asia, yeah, that has not been my experience with the draft that people are just here for fun, that people are out for blood.

I'm trying to rewrite history. You know, we used to be. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's a pet peeve, Asia. Mm-hmm. You haven't gotten there yet, but that's a pet peeve. You are on a new past here. We'll reveal who.

I'm just on a high, like you mentioned, Rob. Go out, check out the Pride of Spoken episode. I really enjoyed recording it. They are doing amazing things on that podcast. And the reception has been great. Yeah, it's a great interview. I listened to it earlier today. And if you want to hear all about Asia's journey and her love story,

you can hear that all on the first episode of this month. The Pride is Spoken. New episodes coming out every Sunday this month. here with us. Of course, he's going to be talking about some of the snubs on a special club condo tomorrow but here tonight to pick from the players that will win. It's

Chappelle. Hey, what's happening, y'all? Thank you all for having me back. I'm hanging on by thread. Every time y'all mentioned average jazz, I just get quiet because I know I'm down at the bottom of that list. But yeah, this would be fun. I'm so excited to talk about the snubs. Like, I'm really just trying to get through this

so I can do the real complaining. I've been listening. I've been just waiting in the winks. all week people have been complaining about the cast, but no one's got a real Chappelle take on what's going to happen. And so tomorrow I'm going to unleash and I'm going to, I'm coming in hot and I'm going to talk about all the people who should really be here playing for the crown of the winter of Survivor 50. Yeah, and I thought maybe we could get into some of the social media mess

also going on from this week of Survivor since the cast has dropped on Wednesday. So a lot to talk about on a special club condo live on Monday at 1 p.m. and back with us, of course, that it's the highlight of the draft to see all of her reactions throughout the night. She's already talked about Survivor 50 over on Survivor Global. It's our chief international survivor correspondent. It's Shannon Gus. Hi, Rob.

I'm just here to he-he-ha-ha-ha, have fun. Which is a crazy thing to say, Asia, after the last two days of the group chat. I thought we were going to need legal representation. the way we were like, I was like, I'm getting my brother in here. Like, he was a lawyer and we are going to work through these draft rules. I think we got it. I could see like for the draft, it's like a survivor logo, but it said outwit, outplay out last.

It says he, he, ha, ha, have fun. Yes. It's such a good time. And it's so just like low state. So lighthearted. It's so. Release the group chat drama. Yes.

Release it. Oh my God. Release the show. Everything. This is a. Kumbaya group. Everybody is getting along. That's what they say about us, yeah.

I have a question. I have a question about the winner of season 50 in general. Is this a he-he-ha-ha-ass season? This is like, are we like, no, seriously. Like, winners at war was like, winners at war. They're coming from where. There was a song.

You know, it's like, that winner is going to be the one person who could say they beat all the rest of the winners that were in the mix. This is season 50. What is this person's crown? It's like, is this the, I'm the winner of the celebratory season? of Survivors 50, you know, whatever seasons.

It's what is this person getting? Is this just like, oh, yeah, you won, okay. Is this, whatever? Is it with the real season or the draft? Yeah, I mean, both. But more importantly, the real season, right? Like, what are we doing here? I feel like, are we just having fun?

Is this a good time, Rob? I think it depends on how it goes. I think that if we see like a real slaughter of the old school early, I wonder if maybe people might say, like, that there might be a backlash. But if we end up seeing, you know, some of the real icons,

that are here go far and people feel like that it was a worthy season. But sometimes you get with these returning player seasons, sometimes they're a little floppy. Well, I think this is the core issue of the entire season, which is that they've cast two different kinds of returning casts. One is like your every four years, let's get the most recent people back, and the other is like a legends cast. And they just like mashed the two together in an oversized, overstuffed cast.

And we don't really know what this. season even is at this point. Yeah. Bring back themes. Bring back themes. I mean, I'll save my hot takes for tomorrow for the snubs. But yeah, this is, this feels a little made up. They made this show. Nevertheless, this is the Survivor 50

cast we have and this is the Survivor 50 cast that we will draft. I have entered the draft. I was not originally supposed to be in the draft, but I made the executive decision, especially in a 24 person. Colin told us that he was going to be on the draft.

After much thought, we decided to extend an invitation to Rob to participate in this draft. Yeah. I did win. He had to make some cuts, but Rob stayed on the roster. Yeah, we didn't have to make any cuts. This was, you know, it's a 24-person season. We could have a seven-person draft. I think that we can be no problem.

We're not going to miss a beat. And we didn't make any cuts to Omer because, like, he's devastated. Omer was going to be in the draft? We were a consideration. That's all I'm going to say. Yeah. Wait, we're talking about it. You say we're not going to miss a beat.

We are going to miss three players. Okay, actually, one thing we didn't clarify in our day, through chat, wait, I just want to say, so if the audience are getting three players, they, I think, should be, like, they should have our same draft rules. Like, if the audience gets grenaded, then if they win, then we still, you know what I mean?

Like, they're playing. Easily. I was going to suggest maybe no grenade rule because these are Survivor 50, but at the same time, and also because I'm most likely to draft the grenade. But here's the thing. I agree.

If they're going to play, they all play by all the rules. They can't just be like, oh, we won anyway. We got it. No, hell no. You got to go through the trenches with us. Okay, I like that. Also, if the audience wins the draft, that means it's the draft order for Star 51 is going to be in the hands of the fans also. We don't even know what the draft order is. In the House of 49, Ron.

That's true. We don't even know the draft order for 49. Who's that in the hands of? Yeah. So we'll put up a poll and it's like, who do you want to have the first pick? And then we'll just add the, you know, poll results. The real, the real question is if the. the audience wins, how do we determine which one of the audience wins?

Hmm. Yeah. The hive mind has won. Okay. So, yeah, I won the, who will be on Survivor 50 draft. So I kind of said that. Yes. Oh, but, like, oh, no, you don't need one.

Sam was going to update us on the point. Sam, can we get an update on the, on the points for the who will be on Survivor 50 draft? Okay. Because I don't know if it's on the challenge. Rob killed you all. Rob won. it was Rob. Wait, no, what were the points?

Oh, God. Tell us that. Who got zero? I got one. Rob one. That was me. Me, Asia, and Leona, who were not on that draft. We'll get you the full accounting

for average draft position. But in the meantime, okay, I had a money in the bank pass. I cashed it in, and I'm here tonight to draft. So we will each draft three people for our season 15. the audience will get the three people that do not get drafted. Of course, we are always just picking for the winner,

with the lone exception of if you pick the grenade, your entire team is now out of the draft. That is the first player voted off of the game. If there are two voteouts in the first episode, it will be whatever vote is shown first in the episode. Okay? We are having a shoot the moon rule, where if you get the first three boots you win, right?

Oh. I mean, that would have been talking about that. No, that's just another way Shannon can win without draft for the winner. No, no, no, no. One caveat to the grenade rule is, if you're grenaded, but your other two players both make it to the final three and you have the winner,

you can take the antidote to the grenade. Impossible you say? Well, look no first. than Chappelle who won in exactly that fashion in Survivor 42. And you would think after doing that, they would bring the winner of Survivor 42 on to Survivor. Specifically for that reason. And for if nothing else, if nothing else, where the hell is Mary?

As a drafter or as a player? In life. Where she should be on this damn draft? Believe Toronto. Yeah. This is crazy. This is crazy talk, Jeff. All right.

So, horrendous snub. I hope that's most of your podcast tomorrow. Number one with a bullet. And shout out to our patrons who are here with us live, over 500 people live tonight for the Survivor 50 draft. Very exciting night and really glad to see so much enthusiasm

for all the Survivor 50 coverage. All right. Pooya, you are the man of the hour. You have won the Survivor 48 draft. I'm sorry, we do not have a cameo for. you for your winner pick, Kyle, that he seems to be busy? That makes sense. He's on the draft board again.

We have not been able to contact him. Okay, fair. Okay. Listen, 49 will be, 49 is happening. All right. So we'll see him then. All right. So in the meantime, Puyah, you will give us our order one through seven for our snake draft.

Yes. Serpentine draft. We are here, the big 50, in the hands of the first. fans, but your faiths are in the hands of the meat. All right. With the first pick in the draft, we're giving that honor to someone who is my first pick in life, Leanna. Thank God.

First pick in the draft. You don't understand. I deserve this. I've been through so much. Can we talk about pregame alliances? Yeah. Yeah. Right.

For $150 or for the draft? The draft sounds like. Okay. Can I just say the rest of us should be teaming up against Pooia and Leanna. I have a crazy pre-gamel. I tried to have your back, Shannon. I knew this was going to happen. Yeah, they will.

Literally, if one of them wins, it's like both of them wins because they're both deciding the draft order. They're there in the Puy and Leana Lounge, talking about how they both won, wearing belts, holding hands. I'm like, I hate you guys. They did so well in the 48 draft. No couple should have this much power. Like, I think we shall be conspiring against them.

But then it's the same as Survivor, but we keep coming for each other. That's how they get us. So the second pick in the draft will not be the person who was just talking. That honor will go to the only person who has two wins. Me, I'll be second. Okay. All right. All right.

The next person, the next pick, this person actually did, we did talk about the person that they drafted that they did win that season with the same spot, third place, third pick. Chappelle is our third pick in the draft. Yes, I'm out of the ghetto. I've been at that. You're always on the bottom row? Always in the bottom row, dear God, you know, shit. All right. And now I can announce one of you is being saved from that bottom row.

And that person is Mr. Armstrong. You're a fourth pick to the draft. Oh, Tehran. Take your way up here. This person is getting a very special number to me, if you all know, number five is my favorite number. And it is the number. Like Lou Bega.

Exactly. Me and Lou. Both mean. This is his favorite mumbo. Same. Yeah. Yeah. It's Mambo. Best.

Who's Monica? Yeah. Don't worry about it. Doing it for Monica. Also, the last draft we just did, 48, with the fifth pick, I picked the winner. And I feel like this person can do the same, has the same energy that I'm on. We're talking vibes. We're talking he-he-ha-ha-ha-a-a-a-a-a-a-ha-ha.

Number five goes to you. Hi-hi-ha-ha. All right. All right. All right. And this person gets number six because, and I'm quoting, they are not Chappelle. Shannon gets six pick because I do not want her to get the back-to-back of seven and eight.

I think that's too good of a spot, which goes to my friend Rob Cesternino. Wow. Okay. That's fine. It's better than I ever expected. Yeah. Which is amazing. I told you you're not last.

You were convinced you were last pick. You're not last pick. I'm always six. So it doesn't matter a lot. Listen, this is the spot you won with. Last season, you tried to give yourself a spot. And that was your worst showing ever. So I'm just helping you out.

Jesus. I know, I can't believe you guys haven't gloated more about the fact that I had the worst draft in draft history. No, I think we forgot. Did you want to reset that, Shannon? Yeah. About how badly I did? Yeah, start with the beginning. All right. So I won 47. I think you guys remember that. I was wearing a tiara and I came in like, well, have a lot of ago. I don't really remember it. Yeah, yeah. And then I, so I was, to be fair, for my winner pick between Thomas and Kyle. Now, Thomas was too charismatic. However, I am glad I. didn't choose carla's my winner pick because i was grenaded anyway with stepany rip great pre-merge right it was their fault and then i didn't have kevin who i also was very high on to be fair and then i did have justin though and then i had thomas so those were the first three or four picks so i was out of the

draft by the third week when two of my picks were out and i'd been grenaded and then all my players were out by week four and then i went to europe um sheppel said i was draft dodging which was brilliant. It's not what I was doing, but I see how it looks like that. And now I'm in six play. So I think we're all caught up. Okay. Yeah. I'm about right. All right. With that being said, Leanna, you will do the honors of the 24 players selected to participate in Survivor 50. Who is the one that you will take first? I am also here for the he he ha ha ha, good fun time, whatever it was. So I, similar to Asia. Oh, sorry, yes, the he-he-haha have fun draft.

So I want to pick somebody who I just can't leave off the draft board. And that is Surrey. I don't know how Surrey. I wrote it down before you even started talking. Ha-ha-hi-he-heel. This is not fair. This is not fair. No.

Look at this back. Look, first of all, look, this picture. Look how she ate this up, y'all. That's my mama. Boy, I swear. Statistically, Surrey always does very well. I just, I got a backer. I mean, come on.

I'm just so excited. I know there's a little bit of Surrey fatigue out there, but not for this girl. Surrey's my number one pick in the draft. What can you say? I respect it. Amazing pick. Tens across the board.

Queen, mother, both of you. I mean, here we are. Yeah, no notes. Easily my number one as well. It's just like I would watch Surrey play. like 15 seasons of Survivor. So I ate up, Big Brother, 25. Like, watching Surrey is just a very enjoyable experience.

And so I would just imagine, you know, any amount of time that we get to watch her on Survivor 50 is going to be a good experience. Are the cards in her favor? Maybe not, because it's Surrey, and she's been killing it back to back to back. Like, she hasn't played a season of Survivor after being the winner of the traders.

So that's going to be an interesting point. Yeah. I think it's... Well, it's true. This will be our second appearance. By the time, most people are watching this draft will have seen another season of series. True.

I'm super jealous that she's not in my team. Obviously, like, the one note is that no one's on her level ever, but, like, there are no other Mount Rushmore level players in this cast. Like, she's not out there with, like, Asandra, Tony Parvety. like she'll be out there with Tony Parvey later this year but, you know, if they were smart they would get rid of her but

you know, they never do as a another bad football player exactly. Yeah. So you got a back Siri. There was Heroes versus Villains. Yeah. One out of like eight. Yeah. And that was a ridiculous idol play that shouldn't have happened. JT messed up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

A majority has never has never voted out. Siria. She has what, I mean, nine votes against her in four seasons. Last I checked, last time Surrey was on the beaches in Survivor U.S., she didn't get voted out. She got some kind of advantage, get into Dittado. Oh, my God. Please don't mention that, please. Thank you.

She did have a majority of votes against her and Big Brother, though. Yeah. Who watches that? Fair. You watch the entire of that season. Let's not. That was your favorite. I would do anything for Surrey.

I was not able to find Pet Peeves on record for Surrey, but having watched her on Big Brother, I imagine one of them is that damn Corey flipping on her. Another would be F in Bowen, Jane. Another would just be Big Brother. I watched her on Big Brother. Her pet peeve is definitely just Big Brother. That's fair. That's fair.

And Heroes v. Villains. She was asked, why did you come back and play again? And she said, because I didn't win the last two times. So I imagine if she was asked the question again, it would be because I didn't win the last four times. Wait, is this a spoiler for AUV World, though? why she's just about to play.

Oh, uh-oh. I guess I'll have that one. Oh, no. How have you done so much research? Yeah. I'm so impressed. So, Surrey last plays Survivor and Survivor game changers. And we all remember Advantage Get In and how it ultimately goes out.

But at the finale, Jeff brings Surrey out on the stage. And it really did feel like that there was unfinished business that Surrey had with Survivor. and it seems it would have been crazy if Surrey would have never gotten another chance to come back to U.S. Survivor to try to finish out the story. So I do think that that would be the storybook ending to Survivor 50. If Surrey, after all this time, it would be a celebration of all of the eras if somebody who has played throughout all of them came back and finally got the championship for Survivor that she had never gotten through her career. being the greatest player to never win the game and finally come back and do it. It would be incredible. I also think that there is a lot of reverence that I think especially the younger players have

towards her, where I think that the people who grew up watching Survivor, I think that I don't even know if they are going to have the stomach to want to target a player like Surrey because she means so much to them. I think that Asia, from the players from the new era that you know of, I would think that they feel like Ceri is beyond reproach. Yeah, at least early. Like, I don't think it would be something that they would, they would be willing to throw a vote if it's spirit.

They want to hang out with her. Yeah, exactly. They don't want Geree to be mad at them. Now, it takes Ceree to the end and then something will screw her over. It's great for you. Sure. That's how it always goes. Do the players

Go ahead From the old era Have a reverence for Surrey Is the question No, they hate my mom They hate her so much They want to be her so bad Oh my God

I'm vomiting and looking at some of these people Because I know they hate her And they're after her And she right now Chilling about to go play the game Knowing that they're sharpening And I was trying to come for her But the problem is not going to be them Rob

The problem is going to be If anybody's going to get screwed over By losing votes Do or Die challenges And all that kind of nonsense That came in a new era Who is it going to be? Who is number one

to get screwed over by something like that is Sarie. So I'm concerned. She's not going on. Anyone that voted yes on any of those twists polls that's on you. Also, there will be fire making maybe.

Probably not. Because. Oh my God. If Surrey goes out in fire again. Yeah, she's already going out in fire. Yeah. On a two to two vote. Yeah, but like now she has to do fire well, potentially have to do fire at the very end of the game. Like it's an, it's an obstacle

that we could, is more than likely going to come up for someone. And so, yeah, I would hate that. I would hate to see Sarri go out in a way that we've seen her and almost book in her, her survivor journey with that, with nonsense. Yeah. Now, on Survivor Twitter, there have been some rumors about a alliance of people pre-gaming against Surrey. Do we think that any of this is canon?

Have you seen any of this? I've seen enough. Right. I've seen all I need to see. Stephanie LaGroa. You're on notice. Again, I mean, so, but some, this is like, could just be completely made up and fictional. In which case, she's still on notice.

Pre-game alliance rumors being made up in fictional, Rob? Never. Yeah, okay. Redmond's in the chat. He's not hearing it. So, then I'll stand with Redmond. Okay. All right.

Anything else we want to say about Surrey? I love her so much. Okay. I do, too. I just want to be like, like, Because y'all know, I'm biased. I'm hella biased here. But there are a lot of people who really would have an act to rhyme with someone like

Sarri just because she's played Survivor with so many of them and like tangential. She's beat all their faves and their friends too. So like Ozzy really doesn't love Surrey that much. We can push in like he does, but he doesn't. I thought they got along on Game Changers. They existed on Game Changers. But they were not like some like duo that was working together. You know, like he, if he's looking back at all of the Ozzy, the downfall of Ozzie,

it started very early on with meeting Surrey and his second, second time around. Stephanie LaGrosa has been burnt by Sarie in the Traders and apparently in Snake Indographs. I didn't watch that. Coach would never like Surrey in any world anyway. So there are a few people who are going to have it out for Saris. Let's just be very clear.

So she's going to have to work. My mom's going to have to go to work. Okay. But if she's in a situation where if there are three tribes and it's 3-3 old and new, that's an okay place to be. 4-4. Or 4-4.

four. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. Well, I would say that a downside for Surrey, I think, is a lot of early tribal councils. I think that especially in a format where we could. Yeah. I hear you too, Asia. So, you know, if you're going to like these early tribal councils and especially they might be voting early and often in game changers, Surrey didn't go to a tribal council before the merge. And that was a good formula for her. So I think that if she, her tribe is going to, Like, does she end up, like, maybe with Jonathan? You know? Please, God.

Yeah. Put her on the trouble. Oh, my God. Jonathan's stock goes way up. She probably, thank you for Jonathan on season 50. He will ride. Joe and Jonathan to the end like oxen. Oh, my God.

Oh, please. Speaking of challenges, do we think they're bringing back the balance beam? Because, like, that's what Jeff thinks about, Surrey. Oh, my God. You are on notice. This is crazy. This is crazy. A lot of people are noticed already.

Yeah. Okay. All right. So, Leon, anything else to say with your first pick? Nope. I'm beyond happy. No matter how it goes. No matter what happens.

Okay. There we go. Number one pick off the board is three. You might be tempted to let Taco Bell's new Lux value menu go to your head. Because 10 indulgences for $5 or less makes you feel fancy. Like you might think you need cloth napkins. Well, you don't. Just use the ones that come in the bag. Don't let the Lux go to your head.

Let's go to Pooya with the number two pick. Yes. So, this is an interesting draft because not only are there people that are never in a million years thought we'd be able to draft from in some of these old era people, but then it's almost like a second chance to get to draft some of these people that we've had from the new era that we have all drafted through already. So I'm going to go ahead and draft someone that has already been drafted amongst our group in the in the past. And I'm going to take one of our Canadian representatives off the board, Genevieve, get on the team, Pooja. Okay, wow.

How dare you? Yeah, that was cruel. How dare you? How dare you? Yeah. That's crazy. Talk that through. Genevieve, number two.

This man's cut throat, man. Y'all see it? Y'all see it? He's crazy. I mean, Genevieve is everything you want. in a player. She is social. She is strategic. She is someone that, someone on this board did warn about and they didn't listen. And then what did she do? She made it all the way to the end. All the way to the end, almost taking the whole bag, getting very close to the very end.

And I think there's a couple of things that work in Genevieve's favor. Number one, 48 just happened. I feel like 48 has three people on it. That's a lot of eyes, a lot of eyes to put on there. Also, not a winner from the new era. There's two winners from the new era on the beach. This is not bad spot for her either. I think Genevieve being like a loan free agent from 47 is great. Because if whatever these mixups are, if it is a three tribes of eight and it's a four-four, I can see Genevieve going with the new folks, going with the old folks, time for recruitment. And I think there's enough people with threat levels there that despite they should be looking

at Genevieve as someone who's menacing, I don't think they're going to. I think they're going to mess up. And I think Genevieve will only do better from there on out. Yeah. I'm very in favor of all the incredible 47 women that we have, present company included Genevieve, my winner pick, like tens across the board from 47. I'm all my draft winner in Rachel. Genevieve is my winner pick on this season.

I knew she wouldn't come get to me because I knew I wouldn't get past Asia with Genevieve anyway. But I felt so good about Genevieve. I said on Survive Global. She's my winner pick. And then they put out that poll on CBS. I don't know if you saw that of who people think will win. and Genevieve's like smashing it.

And that actually made me feel much worse about the pick. I'm like, firstly, I'm so basic. Secondly, if everyone's aware that she's like the Winnipeak, right, maybe the cast will also be thinking that she's like higher up in their minds than I thought. Because I agreed with you, Pua, that I was like, she is such a big threat, but people might not see it as much. She didn't win.

She's not with anyone else. But if everyone is thinking that, maybe it's like a really obvious pick and then she will be targeted. But I think we have seen she as a sparkly person. Like she definitely has the skills. But I'm just a little bit worried about like how many eyes seem to be on her and how clear that seems to be to people. Yeah, I'd love to get Asia's perspective on the Genevieve pick.

Yeah, I mean, this hurts just as much as Puyah when you wanted Shaheen. Like, this hits just the same. Yeah, it's true. Damn, I understand that pain. I understand that pain quite well. Now you can relate. He said, you're welcome. I'm really shocked you didn't let her go to Asia.

He wanted to talk about being shocked about people. The last time. She's mine. Yeah, Terran. I'm with Taryn. You drafted once. You should have dibs. I drafted before anybody else knew her or met her.

I saw. I think Asian saw her first. You didn't draft her before work. You don't know how time works. Yeah. Yeah. But Asia, tell us about Genevieve. Yeah.

So as someone who has played with Genevieve, she is very like if you're with her you feel amazing about her. But if you're not with her, you were just, there's so many questions in your head because you're like, I know this person is smart. But it's like, my experience was like, she's so hard to read because we would have these conversations and our heads would be in similar places. But it's like, but we're not looking out for each other. But in hindsight, it's like, you're like.

yeah, because the people that she's like, I can work these people, she's like digging in deep. And like, they are fully like, I got to take Genevieve as far as possible. I have to hand her the game. Like that type of loyalty is the type that Genevieve was able to get early on. And so it's interesting because in the game, Genevieve and real life Genevieve are like two different entities. and like real life Genevieve, we're great friends. And so I'm really interested to see if Genevieve, through her journey through 47, is she going to bring more real life Genevieve in the game? Or is it going to be a situation where she's like, okay, let me approach it how I did 47 and just kind of see what happens.

Because if she approaches it like real life Genevieve, I think people are going to be like, oh, wow, like Genevieve's like, I want to talk to her more. I want to like hang out with her. I actually think that like I could buy low. loyalty with her. So I think it's going to be really interesting. I think it really matters in how she approaches the game. I would like to give a rebuttal about Genevieve the player, not Genevieve, the person who I think is incredible. And I really think she's an amazing player, a very sharky player. I really do worry that I think a lot of people are going to look at her and say,

okay, this is somebody that we have to keep our eyes on in this game. And I think that there could be a lot of threats coming her way. I've compared her to Kim coming back to play in Winners at War, where nobody really felt great about working with Kim because they were so worried about what she was capable of. And Kim really struggled to find allies that really wanted to work with her in the game. That's my fear for Genevieve in Survivor 50.

But no, she's not Kim. Like, no one is Kim. Like, I feel like that's like it's still a pretty high bob for to be looked at like that. I think it really works in Genevieve's favor, the fact that there are five players playing on this season that have played since her. So, you know, recency bias. But if those five people get together and have it in their mind, like Genevieve's the biggest threat, then that's scary as well. So I don't know. I can't wait to watch her.

I'm very excited that she's playing again, very excited that, you know, just to see how her gameplay is going to evolve since we saw such growth. through 47. But yeah, great pick, Pua. I mean, the thing is is that there's the three, so you've got three from 46, three from 48, two from 49. That's a crazy group of people.

Like, that's so many people. And to me, Genevieve then starts to just disappear a little bit, at least in terms of threat level. But I do see the argument of, okay, so Genevieve is maybe not an immediate target, then who are her allies going to be? if is it going to be the new school group,

that, like, big pack of eight people, is she going to be able to work with some of the old school players? I'm just curious to see where she's ultimately going to fall. I'm a little bit nervous for her. But if she can get her claws in, very excited to watch her work. The question is, are people, are people going to storm the line?

Honestly, that was when I knew she was like cut throw, like, you know, that is a good point. That was my impression. Taryn, what was your, question? My question is actually, I have an audio clip and can you hear this? Taryn.

Do you storm the boarding gate? I don't even know why he'd ask me that question. I listen. I might, Chappelle, that was from the last draft. Genevieve famously had had, you know, some pet peeves about airports.

And then you, you came in, I don't know where this came from. You came accusing me of being somebody who storms the boarding gate. I asked the question. I asked the question. I felt like you gave stormed the boarding gate energy, Taryn. Listen, I met Genevieve.

You know what the first thing she said to me was? What's that? I heard you stormed the boarding gate. I just on record would like to ask you, where did she hear that? I mean, Taryn, do you storm the boarding gate? I do not. I strategically place myself in the shadows. Right.

What is happening? Taryn who usually looks at one line from an interview for every player does no prep is coming in having looked at previous interviews is clipping drafts. What's happening? I clipped from multiple previous drafts to just be ready for it. Wow. We got back. Maybe one other thing about Genevieve's.

I remember having Genevieve, I liked her, but I had her lower on my list because she was like, Boulder's Gate took over my life and I just did nothing but that before going on. And I was like, oh my God, I don't love that. The fact that she performed the way she did despite just being like in a like completely into, I'm like, now she's got nothing but time to prep. I'm like, listen, I'm feeling good. Maybe that's why she did so well.

Maybe. Okay. I don't know. That was like, she played Elbin Ring before she went out this time. I don't know. I didn't draft her last time because she said she played Boulder's game instead of practicing to make fire. That's why I drafted Rachel.

Firstly, thank you, Genevieve. Secondly, I was like, but she's a sparkly person, and I couldn't, you know, just decide between these two things. But now I'm choosing her as my winner pick. So I think it's a really, like, these are the first two picks, I think, makes sense. I feel like no real notes right now. The Puyana dominance continues, and why are we allowing it? What was we going to do to stop this, huh?

Yeah, Shannon, with the way you drafted, you didn't try to stop. I like to hear what you stopped this, which is who's your next draft back? Oh, me. I'm next. You're next. Oh, yeah. Well, are y'all done on Genevieve? We ready to move on or is like, I don't know.

Just Chappelle with the number three pick. This is hard. This is hard. I'll say this about Genevieve, too, before I, as I move on, I think Genevieve has a reputation for being Sharky based on the edit. And I think a lot of these people do not, right? Like, when you think of Kobe's last time coming on,

you don't think about that. When you think Coach, he was Sharkey, but that's not what you remember. You remember some foolishness, some cartooning characters on this, on this Survivor 50 draft board. So I wanted to go with somebody who probably doesn't have the reputation

for being the threat that they are and somebody who I think is kind of well-rounded as a survivor player. So I'm going to go with, and also somebody who I think I would do well in the new era because of all the advantages. I'm going to go with the Idol Hound, Rick Devons.

Rick Devin's. Yeah. Dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun. Yeah, because in my heart of hearts, I think an old-school person is going to win this season. And so I figured, Yeah, I just feel it. I feel like, okay, give us that.

And so I was like, all right, well, who among them, right, has a reputation that isn't going to proceed them too much to where they're like, we got to get this person out or they will win the game. And I think Rick Devons, having ended up on the edge of extinction, probably is going to lower his bread level because he ended up there, for sure. But he also, what found four idols in one season, the new era is chock full of, like, stuff. I mean, look how much stuff Eva had by the end of her season.

She had advantages upon advantages upon advantages. So I'm thinking, okay, Rick Devons kept thriving at. He's very social. He's not a slouch in the challenges. And he's got a strategy mind. So I felt like if anybody's going to get along with everybody, it's Mr. Rick. Here's my problem with Rick Devons. Here's my problem with Rick Devons.

I do think something's going to have a problem with him. And I think that person is Genevieve. Because you know what one of Rick Devons's pet peeves are? Don't storm the game. Waiting in line. I honestly wouldn't think that would be a threat to the new era players if he had not been a co-host on On Fire.

Oh, is it competitive? Like, I feel like On Fire co-hosts are about to, like, who's the favorite? That's up there. I think winners are a threat. And then On Fire co-hosts are right underneath that. So D is the top threat of all threats. Yeah.

And that's the thing. I thought about drafting D. I love D as a player. I think she's one of my favorite winners in the New Era for sure. But I thought that D is coming in with an obvious threat level. Despite being a winner, but she's also, that's D who ran the game. Rick Devons does not have a Rick Devin's that did blank, blank, blank. Like his little survivor baseball card is not like, this is a person you should be extremely

worried about the same way like Surrey or Genevieve would have. And so I was trying to go with somebody who was a little bit more. the radar who I thought could get ingrained with everybody socially and very quickly. I hadn't really considered Rick much as a winner pick, but he's very non-threatening. And I don't think that people think of him as a, you're right, Chappelle. He did not only define the idols, which I think a lot of people remember, but also people like, oh, well, he can't make a fire. So that's okay.

Maybe that's another reason to go. And he can make a fire just not as fast as Chris. And, but he won challenges too. And so I think that probably people don't remember. Rick as much as being as having as much success as he did in that season. I completely agree with that. And I think that, you know, Rick is not the first name that really stood out to me when I'm looking

through the cast list. And I think that that's a great thing for him. Both the combination of him being on a season that's not, I mean, we don't think about it a lot. Let's just say, well, maybe certain parts of it.

But I think that for Rick, this is a really, really great position. And I think he can pivot easily between the, new school, the old school. He's just so charismatic and that is also going to carry him far. I think this is a fantastic pick. Yeah.

I think that he's, yeah, he's someone who benefits from the being one of the returnees from that weird like bubble post-35 but not new era counting that I think can kind of hide into the background. Whereas, you know, you look at a cast like David versus Goliath, very popular season, very popular cast featured on. Netflix. There's more eyes there generally anyway. So he could potentially hide. Now, can anyone

fill the blanks for me as to what Aubrey and Rick's relationship is in a this era in the 20-25? Yeah, they were on the edge together. I don't know. And Rick then left the edge. So I think that if anything,

their relationship is I actually, I think that did she send him an advantage in the game? Like, I think that there was like, so that Aubrey might have sense. I think they were all cheering for Rick from, from Edge. And they gave big reactions in the, it was sitting in tribal. Yeah.

So I think that they probably had a positive relationship. Okay. Yeah. And honestly, the worst thing you can say about Rick Devin's edit on Survivor is that the entire season looked like he was going to win. That was the thing that we were frustrated with was watching. It was like, why are we watching this every week? And we're just going to just roll his way to the end, idle his way to end. And then they threw in the Underwood, you know.

kind of, you know, card at the end, and that's what threw everything off. But Rick, he was running the show for a while. So I'm like, if people forgot that, maybe he can come in and kind of get the same type of momentum and take it to the wind this time. Okay. All right.

Anything else on Rick Devons? I think it's funny that Chappelle has him as an old-school player and he was in the 38th season of the show. I mean, the old school is literally anything before 40. Yeah, it is. I'm not saying funny, but that's why that that late 30s group might be good in between, like,

bridging the gap between these different areas. I just, I do genuinely think there's a lot of value to being somebody that everybody expected to return at some point and who is still involved in the community. Because for as much as we talk about threat level

and whatever, relationships are going to matter, I think, a lot more. And if he's been able to develop relationships because people know that he's probably going to play on a season, that's probably pretty good for him. Mm-hmm. Okay. All right. Chappelle is on the board with Rick

Devons. And now we go to Taryn for the fourth pick overall. Okay. Well, to make this pick, actually, I have a clip from the original draft that this person was chosen on. I'm just going to play this clip. I love Christian. He's endearing. And he's very, to me, he's very genuine. If that makes sense. Like, he just, he's, he's very earnest. He's very much himself and he's not ashamed of it. I love Christian. What was that child? You sounded so young. Yeah.

You sound like a baby, Terry. Who was in that draft? Redacted, redacted, redacted, redacted, redacted. Oh, okay. I'm sorry. Tell you after the show, Shannon. I don't remember a time before I was drafting.

I didn't expect that. Don't worry about it. That was a good, that was a good one, like seven years ago. Seven years is crazy. Yeah, BC. I, I, I, I, I, there's really not much. more to say. I love Christian. I also think he was my first pick

in the who's going to return to 50 draft. I think a lot of people expected Christian to be back. I think all what I just said about Rick applies to Christian. He's involved in the community. He has, I think, a decent amount of relationships. He's like the easiest person in the world to get along with. I think everyone

will want to work with him. I also think a lot of people will want to target him because he's too likable, but I don't care. I like him too much, so I'm picking him. I love Christian. Yeah, very high. I love Christian. I think this is a great pick, but I also think that if anybody's coming in with one of those

reputations for like, this person is going to be good at this game, we should probably target him at some point. It's Christian Hubicki. The entire narrative of David versus Goliath from the moment he stepped on to, like, they hit, they said action on the camera. And it was like, Christian's a threat, you know, straight out the gate. And I don't think anybody's going to forget that. So I think that that's his biggest point is going to be having to, uh,

beat the narrative, right? That he's going, he is a threat. He's a walking, talking threat. And he doesn't even look like it, but he's also a physical threat. He was winning immunity challenges and, like, beating records and, you know, and all kinds of stuff.

So I think that Christian could be a great winner of Survivor 50, but I think it's going to be very hard. Imagine Christian wins 50 and you didn't pick him. You know what I mean? That's how I feel about Surrey and Leanna. So, okay. I want Kristen to win probably,

sorry also. Probably. But like, if Christian wins, That's a great season. I think we'd all be thrilled. I think that I think people will like him a lot. And I also think he's really going to benefit by being Mike White adjacent, right? The power that Mike White yields, but maybe then it becomes like a bit of a threat

and people are thinking about it. Christian's right next to that benefiting. And I think that that will help him. And I think this is a great pick. And yeah, this is no notes as well on these first four picks. I mean, I'm in general excited about as we've talked about this sort of like, post game changers pre-winners at war clumping. And Christian definitely falls into that.

I do see the argument of, oh, well, he's going to have a lot of eyes on him. But I also think that Christian, you know, we're seeing him now several years down the road. And I'm excited to see this version of Christian play. So for me, I mean, I assumed Christian would have been a first round draft pick. But if he had somehow managed to make it back to him. Right. Right. I think that Christian's issue, and I'm thinking. thrilled for my great friend to go back and get to play on Survivor 50. I think that the threat for

Christian most comes from the really old school players. I don't think Jenna Lewis is going to be a big Christian fan. I don't think Surrey loves this type of player. This is not Colby's kind of guy. I think he can win over Ozzy, but Stephanie, perhaps not. So I do think that if he is with a lot of the people from the real old school, they might throw him to the wolves, especially if they have to go to an early immunity challenge. If Stephanie's coming to Sari and Christian, I'm not enjoying that. Well, listen, my enemy is my friend, so maybe Stephanie wants to work with Christian. There's also another connection in here that we are aware of.

You may not love him. I can see that. Yeah. There's another connection in here. That's true. Oh, he has that ax to grind for sure. We know that Dr. Christian Hubicki and financial analyst, Emily Flippen, have played Blount on the Clock Tower together. This is well documented on the internet.

I do not think this is the type of thing that other people are going to go. This isn't the poker lines. They're not going to be like, you know, so there's this like game that they play online. These two play it together. I don't think they're going to be on to that on the show. If we get clips, that is huge. I just don't think enough of these people are tapped into that side. I don't.

I hope they are for the reason. If they are, if they are and these two are in danger, you know who you blame? Two people. Dwight Moore and Steven Fishback. It's on those. That part. That part. But imagine someone having to go explain that to Colby.

Like, just imagine the same on television where it's like Emily and Christian. And first thing, he's like, who and what? What happened on the clock? Yeah. Who's bleeding? Amazing. Probably must be worth just Coltley coming and reduxing exactly what happened 15 years ago, but even more in the weed.

So, yeah, I mean, I think the new era player. do kind of know that stuff is happening, right? Well, even, yeah, yeah, like, having played with Christian in Blood on the Clock Tower, he's somebody that if he is on your side working with you, you just feel really good about it. Yes. Because he's such a staunch ally. And he's always, like, working in your corner. He's never somebody that you want to be against.

Like, you want to find a way to work with Christian if you can because he's that kind of guy. If you feel like you're connecting with him, you want to protect him and take him, like, be riding with him all the way. If he's someone you do not think you're going to work with, you're going to clash with, the last thing you want us to make eye contact with him because if he starts talking to you, is going to be a bad time.

Like, I always feel like I'm going to end up giving, like, giving something away to this person because he's thinking a mile a minute, like every, everything. I do think the irony of Christian and, uh,

Emily Flippen playing the blood and clock tower together. I think the people are going to say like, oh, that's a great bond. Like, Emily might target him. Like, uh, oh, Emily.

Yeah. People are to wise to each other. Yes. I think he should be worried about Angelina. I think if y'all, y'all don't remember Angelina. Like, I remember Angelina. She is a showman. And that's going to be the problem.

Mike White is going to be like, Angelina, wouldn't it be crazy if we got out Christian? And it's gone. The way that lady, she was on Allison's ass that entire season. Okay. She was going out of her way to do like crazy things in that season because she had an extra ground with Allison, if she just for one second thinks that it would be funny for her to be the one to take out Christian, oh,

Angelina's turning on them instantly. I can see it. I can see it happening now. Okay. Anything else about Dr. Christian Hewbicki? All right. Karen is on the board with Christian and here comes Asia with Puyah's favorite number, number five. Is it because you've been

streaming for five years, Puyah? I mean, listen, the number means something. Yes. I did forget, just briefly. I did forget I did find his original pet peeves. They were condescension, cliches, and reckless abuse of percentages, which great pet peeves. I agree with like 10% of those. Okay.

So five is also my girlfriend's favorite number. Oh. That's good. Okay. And Kuya stole that from you too. Okay. Relax, man. Relax.

The number, the number. Pooya, Leanna. What's happening? What's going on? What's going on? Good. Break up Leana and Puyah. That's what I'm doing.

I'm not supposed to be in the draft. I'm trying to break up as a soul marriage. She's planting seeds, y'all. Oh, my God. This person fell way too far the last time that they were in a draft with us. I'm reporting for duty. I'm in the Camilitary, baby. Okay.

Come on Camilitary. Now hear me out. I was just going to get them. Yes. No, no, no. The Keeper League. I get her. I get Emily.

I get Joe. They're all mine. Okay. All right. Here's Camilla. Listen. Yes. By the time, they, she just played.

Yeah. They're a week out from 48 ending from them watching an entire season of watching Camilla. But I think the biggest storyline from the season 48 was Camilla and Kyle. Camilla and Kyle. Get rid of Kyle. And oh, now I can work with Camilla. I see all of her strengths. I see that she's smart. I see that, oh, she can win immunities. We saw that that that was evident. And I just think, that Camilla is a very just, I think she's just an amazing survivor player that will be underestimated.

I think as soon as you get rid of the idea of her and Kyle being together, you're not worried about her and Joe. I think if you eliminate Kyle, then you're like, you see Camilla is more of an asset than a threat. But what happens if Kyle's on the other tribe and they're going to tribal?

You know. He's just like, Camilla was the brains of the Camilla and Kyle. She can come up with something. Yeah. Camilla is a great pick. I had her on my list as well. I think that all of the...

Let me talk it through, Shannon. No, but I'm just... And every podcast, you've been so low on her. I was talking to... I'll tell... No, I will... Let me explain my take... The danger for her is, I think, in the first, like,

like, eight or nine days. I feel like it's the early game. The very... first couple of tribal councils where especially if that they're like, okay, we need to split them up and if they're on the same tribe, if they're not on the same tribe, then I think that they say, okay, well, we have, we can take the shot on Camilla now. She's not a huge asset in the physical challenges, although she is a huge asset in the puzzles. And so I think that there, there is a world where she could go early. But if she gets through that portion of the game, if Kyle goes home,

I think that she's like locked in for the final five. I think that we've seen before in various shows that being known for being part of like a secret duo can be really beneficial for you because you can promise to bunchers of people that they're your new secret duo. The problem is it doesn't work if your original secret duo is also on the season.

So I do agree with Asia that Kyle needs to be gone before Camilla can really sore, I would imagine. Yeah. That's the number one worry. is that they're like, we need to get one of them immediately and it just lands on Camilla

because Kyle's safe or something. Or if they're on the same tribe, I could see a world where they're like, well, Kyle's physical, and we need them for the immunities. Yeah. The challenge is not the game. That was my only worry.

Low floor high ceiling pick with Camilla. Yeah, I'd be high on her if she was coming back for Survivor 57 without Kyle, not like having played with Carl last week and she's in the finale being like, the last few weeks that they buried her the way she likes to bury other people, how she likes to push people under the

bus, how much she loves and is good at lying. She was probably like, please stop. Like, thank God, Colby at least is not watching this. But I do think that if you had some time and it wasn't like the 3 48ers, which I think would be such a focus, even though she didn't even work with Joe and he was trying to get her out, I think that that doesn't look great. But I think she has the skills. And I think she's been wanting to play in a cast that she said is like more her type of people, which at least some of this cast is. So I'm not mad at the pick, but I definitely feel like there'll be eyes on 48 in general

and it could fall on her. And I think because she's, Joe is what? Joe is coming for her. Joe has come for her. If Joe can come for her. Oh. Who's not getting Joe out?

That would be ridiculous. But I do. Joe Ozzy Jonathan Colby. Early on. They're not on the same time. What a season. What a season. That's a big concern.

You think those four are on one tribe? It's the new strong personal alliance. Did you enjoy 48? Because we might get it again. And I think Jeff would love that. Yeah. There's a disaster tribe and these four aren't on top of their own. Yeah.

I think we should be drafting the strong guys. We saw Camilla have fun lying. And so we know that she's capable. But I've met Camilla and had had like been able to just see how sweet she is. And I think that's something people can easily forget. like she is such a kind human and just interacting with her you're just like

I could just put her at my pocket right you're not thinking I'll wait she's about to lie to me I feel like Q's not going to love what she did in Survivor 48 either I mean who can know what Q is going to like you know like he likes people that are straight shooters and I feel like that

she was very sneaky he spent half his season targeting Tiffany and she's the straightest shooter on this entire cast I just I just go It's hard to guess what Q would like. But as far as like, I really do think one of the issues would be Joe. Rob, if you told me, we just played Survivor. And for the entire game, I had no clue that you were working with my number one ally.

And now a week later, I'm supposed to trust you. You snowed me for the entire game. He found out at final tribal council that that was a thing. He was gooped. It's like, there's no way he's going to do that again. I'm sorry. I just like, if he does that again, he's crazy. I love this narrative.

Like, they just filmed 48. Like yesterday. It was last week, you guys. They left the beach and then I just came back. They had one RTP live show and went right back out there. Yeah, but he just watched it on TV. He just relived her being like, I'm not so fast. Like, there's no way.

I just wouldn't, to me, that would be just like the easiest person that I could target if I was Joe because I'm like, I already know that I can't trust her. She's proven to me that she doesn't trust me. And we didn't even bond that much on the season. So I don't know. I think she's in a tight spot having Joe. on the season as well. Okay.

All right. Anything else on Camilla, Asia's number one pick? I don't know. Look, Joe and Camilla both flew to Austin for Bryson Wynn. They could be great friends for all we know. Like we said, it was a year ago. Yeah, it was a decade ago. You guys.

They just met. She just. And then, oh, the other thing, too, is Camilla talks so much shit. She was talking cash money. military shit about David. Like, oh, these dumb asses want to play Survivor. These are the Olympics and all this other stuff. You think she's not going

to have words for coach? You think she's not going to have words for coach? Oh, my God. Like, if I'm coach, I'm like, I got to get her off here because she's about to Courtney Yates me. She's about to talk so much trash, and I'm going on after watching. She's a coach. She's a coach fan. Anybody like coach watching from TV, but you go try to live with that man on the aisle.

That's fair. Yeah, a lot of people like David on the season also. Yeah, exactly. Okay. All right, Asia, you feel good? Camilla number five? Okay. All right. Here comes Shannon with maybe lucky number six.

It is lucky. Firstly, now we're in getting to the made kind of end portion of the first of four rounds. Do we think I'll make it to pick up Peter from the airport in three hours? No. Yes. Okay. Open up me to call Uber. Three rounds.

I saved us from four rounds. Yeah, true. Fair enough. Still, I think Peter's probably walking home from the airport. But Terran comes in here with all his fancy prep and his clips. I don't have clips. But I have spoken to by a deity where, not tori, one of my other deities. I have a couple.

Firstly, I thought, when we're going to go to the draft next week? And then I thought, I'm going to wear my reputation t-shirt. I literally thought that days ago. Then Taylor Swift bought her music back. Someone on the island at the moment doesn't technically even know that. And I thought, this is a sign that if Charlie Davis falls to me, I should take him. But then, but then, Pooya, in the face of all reason, what could have made Puyah not put me last? I've never even hurt.

I could never even imagine. A deity spoke to him, pushed me into sixth place. That's literally the reputation album that you will now not re-release because it's perfect. Charlie would be so happy, Charlie. Happy year of the snake. I'll be taking Charlie. All right, Charlie Davis. Recent podcast guest.

Only talked to him about like three or four weeks ago. Yeah, crazy they were also doing podcasts. Christian's on one, the genius of when he's on the island and it's dropping now. So everyone was fine to do podcasts. I thought Rob might take Charlie. Otherwise, I might have let him drop back to me. I feel like if anyone's kind of higher on Charlie, I would say I would not have taken Charlie in my two picks with all due respect to Charlie.

I would take him later in the draft, but I think... These people not repicking their original picks. Couldn't be me. Yeah. I did have, I did win the 46th draft with Charlie. Yes, exactly. That is true. So that's a good sign.

He's a draft winner here. Him, D and Carl, I guess, won the draft for people of the, of the players here. I, um, I think probably is going to be possibly the, the on-fire aspect makes them a threat. As Asia said, I'm a little concerned about that. But I think Charlie's a great player, former Chizzy Winner, one of four Chizzy Winners on this cast, to be fair. But he didn't win. But he was very, very close.

But I think that if he doesn't have like that kind of winner threat level on him, but has a lot of the skills where he almost, really almost won, I think that that could see him through. And also Taylor Swift told me to do it. So I can only, you know, do it for the Swifties. But I'm very happy with this pick. Yeah. That's the thing for me is that he isn't a winner, right?

So usually it'd be like, okay, he didn't win, he doesn't have the wind threat. But the fact that he is basically the new era of blank was robbed, I don't think is a good spot for him necessarily. Because I think a lot of people saw him as the strategic glue of that season. He knows what he's putting everyone on the grip strength out of nowhere. I think there's going to be eyes on this man. I think there's some worry there for him. But I think he's also someone that can definitely, you know, work around obstacles like that. It's not just dead in the water.

If there's an out, Charlie will find it. But there is reason to worry about it. Yeah, I think Charlie is an incredible player. I think he played such a great game where he snuck up on people. People didn't see him coming in Survivor 46. He will not have that luxury in Survivor 50. And I think that he has a big problem, a one-letter problem. And I think that that's Q.

I think that if Q is going to be- You can't be everyone's problem. Yeah. Was he not in 46? Do you all remember that season? Q will be reminding people of, about Charlie. Charlie won't be able to get under the radar as long as Q is still in the game. So I think that if Q ends up going out early and then Charlie can ingratiate himself, I think that

Charlie has a chance, you know, I think that he has a very unassuming look. He can win challenges, but he's not a big muscle guy. I think that Charlie has a lot to offer to the game and could make a deep run. I'm just worried about people not forgetting about Charlie. my biggest concern actually probably is that like i think he's the youngest person on this cast and he literally just kind of half or was told to us lost you know against someone who wanted to start a family as a reason that was given for voting for her with this like group of like older parents that if anything is my kind of concern is like the jury votes for like his type of archetype um but i still think even though there's some heat on him like i just think from a personality

standpoint, he will end up fading in when you talk about all of these other big characters. So I still feel good about it. Okay. Yeah, I agree. Well, that's the thing. For me, it's interesting because he obviously falls in the new era threat list. But then I'm like, okay, but D though. Okay, but yeah.

Right? Like there keeps people above him that I keep maybe even Genevieve, right? Like, I think that there's people that maybe end up going above him. him, so hopefully that will work out in his favor. But I am a little bit nervous for him on this season. Asia, do you have any thoughts on Charlie? No, I think he's a good pig, but like I said, like you had not, not only is he, the on-fire co-host, right? So just immediate threat. He, one boat away. No one has forgotten it. It was only last year. Asia, could you talk that through the on-fire co-host? Do you feel like that because the current players are like listened to every episode of on-fire so they hear a

lot. I know I really want to know why you feel like that that's a a big reason why that that makes it more threatening. I think, yes. I do think that new era players pay attention to On Fire because it's a peak behind Jeff's thoughts. Like I think it's simple as that.

So whether or not they listen their current season or they specifically listen to their episode, they're just like, okay. So it was I mean, clearly on my season it was a thing who's going to be the On Fire co-host, right? Some people thought it was for sure thing for them.

But I think you not only being picked as the On Fire co-host shows how Jeff viewed your game, right? Yeah. He thinks highly of it. But you also spent countless hours talking to Jeff like about 12 or 13 episodes of Survivor.

And so there's no way they don't think that that's some type of advantage for that person. Yeah. Yeah. But this is only making me feel better actually because you know why? Big reputation, big reputation. You've heard about him. He's got some big enemies, Q.

Like, it literally is in the stars. Yeah. Okay. I like it. I like Charlie. I hope he does well. This will be fun. All right.

Just don't say run, Forrest Run if he's running. He doesn't like it. Okay. Makes him want to throw up. Yeah. Okay. I think only Daniel Reyes is making a Forrest Gump reference on reality TV. All right.

We have now the seventh pick. And I will have back to back picks and I really I really you all have done a great job, but I am happy with how the board has fallen to me because I'm going to take two picks here. I'm going to make the final pick of the first round and the first pick of the second round. And I'm going to go with something old and something new. One from the old era. One from the new era. And it brings me, I have a very happy face right now.

Okay? Yes, you do. It brings me great joy to take with the final pick in the first round. Give me Mike White. Yes. Yes. Go, I'll be it. We're so back, baby.

Yes. Mike White. I can't believe he fell to me at number seven. I wanted him. I did. But Taylor Swift told me I can only do what Taylor tells me. Yes. My biggest fear of Mike White, though, is there are some cutthroat people who do

do not care. Hators. Hators. They do not care about the White Lotus and they would want him out for it. Okay. Wait, wait. So the people on reality TV don't care about getting cast on TV with someone who's one of the most powerful, prominent people in current television. I,

Jenny, maybe Colby. I will say, I think that there are some folks that may not care about what Mike White does outside of Survivor. I think that a person like Jenna Lewis, I think, is not going to, she's there to, she's a mercenary, she's there to get that money. think that she cares like what Mike White has going on in his TV productions. I think that, you know, does Jonathan care about that kind of stuff? I don't know. But I do think,

I do think that there is a lot of goodwill towards Mike White. He is a legitimate celebrity. I think a lot of people are going to be starstruck. I think a lot of people are going to want to hang out with him. And if he gets his foot in the door, and I think that that was going to be may be the issue for Mike where, okay, if he gets voted out early, if he goes to a tribal council, but I think people will want to hang out with him for at least a little while in the beginning of the game. So I think he has some longevity there. He has two close friends of his on the cast in Angelina and Christian. If they go to break up that group of three, I don't think the people necessarily go to take out Mike White there in that group. And I think that this was one of my two

original sins with Mike White. He played a really great game in Survivor, David versus Goliath, a game that easily could have won if that he wanted it to on day 39. And so I think that Mike White has a lot going in his favor coming back with this particular group. I think that people are going to want to hang out with him and work with him. And if he is up for it, I think that he could bring back a lot the things he did really, really well, which were not huge parts of the show where making himself seem absent-minded or might be able to make people think, I don't really care about this. I don't know if people are going to be gunning for him as a threat. But I did some research here.

It took some digging, but I did find his original pet peeve. It was pricks who give me crap about the emoji moose. Yes. I feel like I could have seen that one coming. Where's a clip? I agree, no. I agree, Rob. I think that I think that I don't care how many people are on the cast.

They're going to be like, no, I'm too cool for a White Lotus. I think there's going to be more people that are going to be like, if I have the choice between voting out Mike White or voting out somebody else and it's like not that big of a deal, why am I not just keeping Mike White around? Because why not? Because he's like the level of famous that Mike White is now versus when he's, originally played is so much more dramatic. And he was already very famous when he originally played. The clip I do have is of Melissa going on about Ned Sneebly and me being like,

this is what I'm talking about. People are going to want him around because he's Ned Schneebly. And so now he's White Lotus guy. And who doesn't want to be on White Lotus? Who doesn't want to be in connection to a guy that has that much, uh, sort of sway in the world of entertainment. Um, I think that will matter a lot. I really do. I don't think that people are going to be like looking to take him out. Uh, I think people are going to be looking to protect him. Yeah. He's going to get so much material for the White Lotus season four. It's not Evangelineer alone. I think that's why he's just back with her. I'm sure she was like a prototype. I, I listened to parts of what we recorded in July last year, which they released to the public last week. Like three things in my life has changed.

I won the draft. I got grenade it and I watched all of White Lotus. There's like three of the main. Oh, there you go. And then God, I did. Because now he's on the show, which was so shockingly great. I think he is a really good player who apparently wants to win this time, which could have been the difference the last time.

But he didn't win, which is important because he's not coming back as a winner. He definitely has the skills. Rob, I don't know if Rob believes any of this. Like, it's clear that Rob is doing this under duress or would at least be doing it under duress. I don't think so. I think Rob means it. I feel like that he's been a very popular winner pick. Yeah.

He's a great pick. I'm just saying that even if he wasn't a great pick, you'd still be saying this given what happened last time. You could believe it, but you'd be saying it regardless. And I think it's great. I'm really happy that you and Mike White are taking steps to heal, to reconcile. And I hope that you get on White Lotus. And I think we should be doing a different draft another time for who we think of this cast is most likely to get on White Lotus. Because if it is Colby and he has like the 20 years between Cobb and White Lotus, that would be a crazy kind of disparity there.

Not TV. It's HBO. So. It is. again. Yeah. So, I don't know. Survivor didn't cast enough people

who are just so sharky to where I would be like, they will cut Mike White just to have that head on the spike. You know what I'm saying? To me, I would be the guy, right? Who's like, y'all really go let Mike White pack us up again?

This man is a bazillionaire. He's super famous and now y'all are going to win Survivor 50? Absolutely not. Like, that would be my dying words in the game. It's like, take out Mike White. But I don't know if any of these people are going to have that same type of energy. So maybe he'll do fine.

Okay. When I think of my wife's reputation, though, I don't think of like, oh, my God, yeah, what a great player. I think of such a fun confessionalist. I think of him with the wine. You think of those, like, fun moments, right? And it really, you skip over. Oh, yeah, and he was actually really good.

So I'm thinking that will be in his favor as well. Yeah. I think people are going to forget. People are going to forget how, like, underrated he is as a player. Christian has two allies. Look how much this panel is sucking up to Mike White. Imagine him on the island. I can just picture Q, Emily and Genevieve

just like he is another contestant. Like, I don't care what it's going to do for me after. No, not Q. But I can picture Mike White, Emily and Genevieve on a reward drinking together. Like I can picture it in my head. I don't think any one of us is going to be harsh on Mike White's game. I'm just saying.

If he plays poorly, I will say he plays poorly. I don't know. I won't. Yeah. Well, you, you seem to like switch your morals left and right whenever. Oh my God. I'm very scared of players calling me out. That's what it is.

Listen, as someone who had a traitors player. Which was crazy. Which was crazy. It's fine. It's okay. I'm pretty smart. I'm not doing it with the creator of the White Lotus in School of Rock. I'm just not.

So. And enlightened, Shannon. And the emoji movie. Yeah. So. All right. Mike White is on the board or off the board now at number seven. And now I said something old.

I'm going to go something new. And I am also thrilled that this person has fallen to me because I think that they have a great shot to win this game. Give me Tiffany Nicole Irvin. No, I was about to take her wrong. You took two. You get Charlie, Shannon. So nice he had to do it twice. Yes, Rob, yes.

You did it. This is who I thought I was going to win the Survivor 46 draft with Tiffany to call herbin. And look, and I've been hard on Tiffany as far as like, really Tiffany for Survivor 50? But I've always maintained that to Tiffany herself that if Tiffany ever played again, I think she'd be my winner pick again. Because especially other than the only thing that could screw her off. Say the letter. Say the letter, Rob. Do it again, Rob.

It's cute. big mistake. You shouldn't have done that. Yeah. That's the only thing that could stop her, I think, because nobody, like Tiffany is a fun hang, good vibes, non-threatening.

She came in eighth place. Nobody's like, we got to get out. You know who we need to get out? Tiffany. Tiffany is that she's too big of a threat. She's locked in. Nobody's going to want to get rid of her except for Q. Sowers on her.

And honestly, the her and Q thing, I think people might not know how to read it. And they might say like, oh, they're fighting. Okay. But that's just how they talk to each other. I'm so upset by this pick. I think when we let Rob into the draft, like, I think we should reconsider. And I don't think it's too late to change online. I never said I was the last person.

Y'all let him cook. And he's cooking. We all did. We all did. After all, yeah, I think I think you're right about this. Leanna, were you pushing back at all? No, I love the Tiffany pick. She was a person who stood out to me when the original 446 cast came out that's just such a, again, the sparkly person.

And I think she's in such a good spot here. Like, I'm absolutely thrilled for her. I think that she can absolutely cook. I think that she of, and the thing is, is like, I know some of us are picking our faves. She's a winner pick. Like, I think that Tiffany could absolutely. And a fief. Both.

And a fift. Both, yeah. Yeah, I think that Tiffany is somebody who, you know, just given the way I see the fan reception of this cast, a lot of people complaining about the, or saying their grievance with this season is that they thought it was going to be a representation of like the show and like all the big eras. And like, why is Tiffany here? Or why is Tiffany here instead of this new era person instead? I think it's going to be similar there. I think she's going to be very underrated there. For me, Tiffany was right behind Genevieve.

Like, so this, I very highly rate this pick, Rob. I think, I think you did a little something, man. And I think you came into the draft and they were about to maybe slap another win. Who knows? Yeah. She's the exact type of archetype who often wins like these all-star seasons where like, are we thinking about them? We'll see. We'll see what it's like.

I just think nobody's, nobody's worried about her. Nobody's coming for her. I don't think she's going to rub anybody maybe except for Q the wrong way. So I think that she has a lot of longevity. What are you going to say, Taryn? Well, just that she hates spitting. And it makes her want to vomit when she sees somebody spit. It's gross.

She can't deal with it. Very valid. I think the thing about Tiffany, because I was going to pick her, but I think if you're going to point out a flaw in Tiffany, it's that apparently every single one of her allies always wants to betray her. And she wants to betray them too. That's a big mistake. She also likes to betray her allies.

I think, Terran, my issue is more like I looked at the board and I don't really see any allies for her. Like she has to go out. I think Tiffany's going to have to actively go out and make a lot of bonds that some of these people are coming in. I don't think she won't. I'm just saying that some of them were walking in were built-in. in allies. We've talked about Angelina and Mike White and all that kind of stuff. I don't see the person that I'm like, oh yeah, Tiffany and this person

are going to run the table. I really think that she's going to have to shake you and kind of forge her own path to quote someone else on this panel. Asia, I love going to you as the new era correspondent. What do you think about Tiffany? I love this pick. She was next on my list. I think that

the only downside right now is that she is part of the three people on a season, crew. So if it's a situation where she goes into an early tribal, they're like, we do have Q and Charlie on the other side. We need to chop down 46, just like we're trying to do 48. That could be the only downside for them trying to justify getting her out. Otherwise, Tiffany has been in the mix. She knows a lot of the new era people. She has been out there. And I just think she is the lowest placed person on this cast. Like everyone else has ranked like has placed higher than her

in one of their appearances. And so I think that no one's looking at her as an immediate threat. And she is a very social person. I think her social game is her strength. I mean, and she's no slouch it, like, athletically. So I think the only downside is if they're trying to knock down

the same season numbers, that's not going to work in her favor. Otherwise, Tiffany's going all the way. Yes, Shannon. Are you ready to make pick number nine? Yeah, I'm upset because obviously, obviously I should have changed. like gone Tiffany, Charlie. I thought that like,

that you might take Charlie and Tiffany could fall back to me. But who am I to? What reputation? But Taylor Swift's the reputation. I did have them both in the Spiret 46 draft. Yeah. Yeah.

So between the, but and I'm going to go, no, I'm joking. Please know, that's not canon. I'm not taking Q back. I am now going to have to pivot to another new era person who was, I think, first pick or very, very high up. Was someone on this panel's first pick at the very least?

And at the time, I thought, that's not a good pick. And in episode one, I thought, this wasn't a good pick. She was meant to be first boot. But through time, she did, you know, make it back. I don't think she'll make mistakes that she made in episode one of Survivor 45, but I do think she could make the same good moves that she ended up making. I'm hoping that some people will see that Emily Flippen will think that she is that kind of I remember that she's a great player.

So I'm going with Emily. And I think this is, I think this is a good pick. Okay. I mean, are people sad? Ha, ha, ha, he-he. Hi.

It's great. It's so fun. I want people to be sad. Because, like, with Rob, when you took Tiffany, like, I think at least four of us, like, she was my next pick. I want you,

I want to feel, okay, great. So if you guys are sad, I think I've done well. Like, I have, obviously, I have a super soft spot in my heart for a financial analyst, Emily, flip it. Like,

Emily almost gave me a heart attack when she was almost going to be the first boot. And I was so she was like my second pick overall or first pick, my first pick, second pick overall in the draft or something crazy guy. I was like, oh God. It was Brandon Emily. Random that Emily. Yeah. We were on a roll that time.

I'm thrilled, right? Like Emily was a person who was like, I'm not interested in coming back. I'm not interested in playing again. And here she is. I'm so excited to see. You know, I'm hoping that, as you said, Shannon, those kind of initial mistakes that Emily was making, that's out of her system now.

She's coming back. She's a second time player. She's familiar. She's played with Christian. She's got that connection. I just think there's so much going for Emily, and I'm really excited to see her back. Anyone else really sad?

I think it's a good pick. She definitely was high on my list because she's 45. You got 100 million people that have played since 45 that are on this season. So I think that the threat of Emily may be lost and at least like the old school players. And I think Emily learned a lot through playing the first time. And, you know, Emily is someone who sticks to her guns. I've played Blood on the Clock Tower with Emily. And she never trusts me no matter what I say.

I really, I think she's going to come in and I think she's going to play. a character of like, oh, I've changed so much since Survivor. And I think people are going to buy it for a while. But I do think that eventually, I think that there will be some friction that ultimately ends up

being a problem for her. So I have a hard time envisioning Emily as the winner of Survivor 50, even though I think she is an incredibly smart player. But I think that people are going to wake up to that like they did in her own season. I do have a clip from the original Emily draft Too broad with her pet peeves

Nearly everything What she had? I think you, Terran She said Her pet peeves are nearly everything Chewing, snoring, arrogance, being overly serious Being overly jokey, you name it And it probably irritates me

What constitutes overly jokey? Everything that we've done so far on this podcast Did she name Bruce? Yeah. I think she named Bruce. I think she named all of us. I think that playing with her on blood on the clock tower, I have been overly jokey and overly not serious, lying to her for no reason.

And she got me. I was lying to her. She was lying to me. Yeah. I got tricks. You know who might have an issue with Emily? Who? Q.

And here's why. I'm joking. I'm joking. I mean, did you lie? Did he have, again, the man has, he does that with anybody. He does that with anybody.

I think this is a good pick. I think it's a good thing. Hugh might be first boot. I think the way the common denominator were getting is like the Q issue. So wait, so Emily doesn't like the he-he-ha-ha.

No. No. No. No. Two-he-hi-ha-ha. He-he-ha is like overly he-he-ha-ha's not fine. Yeah. But keep it cute.

Yeah. Okay. I would have taken Charlie later in the draft. Yeah, but that's what, that doesn't matter to this. You had two picks and just two picks. You wouldn't have got him later in the draft probably. You would have picked Charlie out of the final four picks. Yeah.

No, I would take Charlie in the third round. Your third round is the final four picks. Yeah. Okay, well, if I was drafting higher. I'll take Charlie last. Okay. All right. Asia.

Okay. I'm going to, I'm going to go old school. Natalie Anderson Tang out of What did I text you to tell? Number one one of the number one subs. Yes.

But I am truly going to go Asia, please don't pick my pick. Not new era. Okay. Asia, don't do it. Sorry. I'm so sorry. Angelina.

Okay. Asia don't want to win. You don't want to win. Okay. Everybody better. Why? Why? Why? Y'all don't remember David versus Goliath? Y'all don't remember David versus Goliath. Y'all don't think y'all do.

Y'all don't. You know, this is, listen. Wow, you don't want people sign of relief when you make your pick. That's the worst sound in the world. And then when I'm winning. Clip that. Clip it. I'll take it. If you if that happens, I will play the audio. Yeah. All right, Asia, talk us through. Angelina at pick number 10.

So Angelina was on David versus Goliath, as we know. This is, you know, one of the seasons with three people coming from it. That's okay, though, okay? I don't see it as like, I think that's one of the reasons that people may want her out at some point if they all three stick around with the threat of those three aligning. But I don't, I just don't see. even though this is like pre-new era, right? Like this isn't like, oh, you had to be watching 15 years ago to have watched Angelina play.

I still think that are 12 new era players. Like who's prioritizing getting out Angelina? Like you said, even that impression Chappelle that, oh, y'all forgot, y'all forgot. So did they. So did the new era players playing. Like they're not thinking, oh, I'm on a tribe with, like you can name so many people.

You can create so many configurations of six people that I think that people are not prioritizing getting Angelina out, which is enough time for her to build up some type of certain people and be fine. Yeah. No, I get what you're saying. I think people are going to sleep on her. My issue with Angelina is that, well, yeah, well, my issue with her is that I put her in the same archetype as a couple other people on Survivor who are like, they are primarily. characters. And so for me, they have to get out of their character to win Survivor. Right. It's like, it's like the thing about like Tony, right? Everybody was so shocked that Tony was doing well because he is a character first. And then you're like, oh, wait, no, he's really good a survivor too. Okay, cool. But there's not a

lot of players that are able to do both. And I'm concerned that Angelina won't be able to do both. You know, like, listen, you don't think that getting third place and watching her game back all these years, wanting to play again is not enough reason for her to pivot and see where she needs to make improvement. She hasn't had enough time. It wasn't like she played last week like season 48. Like Joe and Camilla. Right.

Like she has had enough time to analyze her game and see. Like this woman is a businesswoman first and foremost. She's a negotiator. Yeah. We will know. We will find out about that for sure. Like she is smart. Yes, she's a character.

Yes, she needs your jacket. Yes, she wants more rice, but I think that it's really going to work to her advantage, that that's the perception versus what she's able to do. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, she runs the Mike White alliance, right? Like, that's... Be good to be Mike White adjacent. Yeah.

Chappelle conceded so quickly. I'm still like, no, I don't think Angelina can win. No, I mean, I get her a point. I don't think Angelina can win. But I get Angela. You know, I get it. I get it. I just think that you are, you're hoping a lot for her to do it.

Like it is possible, but I'm not like betting on it. She has to have the skills to kind of change. Not if she's as a person, because that seems a little harsh. I just think like she's flammed on casting, absolutely love her as a character. Like phenomenal TV, so excited to see her back. I think she'd be fundamentally un-angelina, or should I say Angelina, if she can win the game. It's not the Angelina I know and love. That's the one I want to see, and I'm hoping I see that.

I think it's an interesting thought experiment because I don't know if we have any sort of history of a zero-vote, coming back in winning, right? That's never happened. Right? Boston Robb, I think. Right. But he was the only one who's ever won. But he got votes.

Yeah, exactly. I wonder, though, if you are a person who is a zero vote finalist, like, is there something fundamentally you can change about yourself to turn yourself into a winning finalist? Or does the zero vote finalist like indicate something about you fundamentally that you cannot win a season of Survivor? Oh, it's like, you are a goat because you are you, you know? Yeah, I think it depends.

Like, Stephen got zero votes, but like Stephen would have won if JT just loses final three immunity. So, like, he's against JT and JT's getting all the votes, and that's why Stephen gets zero. I think Angelina is getting zero votes against Nick Wilson. Yeah. And Mike White, who didn't want to even win, and he got the results. And Kara Kay as well. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. Well, I think, yeah, I think Angelina. too low on Angelina. Really? Oh. Yeah. I mean, I wasn't coming in like she's my top pick or anything, but I think you guys are too low.

I think Angelina absolutely could win the game. Really? Yeah, I think she's like a strong personality. She'll come in. She'll ideally work with Mike White. I think there will be a lot of people that want to work with the two of them if they're able to get together. And if she gets to the end again, I think that like, yeah, maybe she has a hard time

winning votes, but I don't think she can't win. I think that especially on returning casts, I think that their voting criteria can often be different than new, new cast. That's fair. That's fair. Stop conceding Chappelle. I do not agree. I just think it's a fair point. I still don't think she is going to win the game.

Stand up, okay? Like, what guy to have in this? You're like, all right. I'm like, no. Maybe you're a bad guy. I also think, like, a lot of the critiques I'm hearing is of an Angelina from season 37. She is years have passed since then.

She has had a lot of time to reflect on her game. I'm pretty sure she wasn't coming in thinking I'm going to be one of the more iconic memes that has happened on any season. I hope that's what she's thinking. You know what I'm going to be more meme? I don't think so. That's like a coach thing. That's like a coach thing.

She's a coach time. This time I'm going to be memer. That's my issue though. I just think that. I think we'll know by like episode two if Angelina is, is just Angelina. I think we could see new and improved Angelina. And I think obviously it's not proven,

but I think it could be shown. Okay. All right. So Asia. I hate these points. I disagree. She is a coach guy. Also, Rob,

Rob needs more kudos for this time. I'm Mima. That was brilliant. Thank you. It's going to kill in the replay. Okay. Yeah. All right.

I'm giving you the credit right now. Thank you, Shannon. Okay. All right. Asia's on the board with the brand new Angelina. 2.0, and here comes Taryn with pick number 11 overall.

Man, I've got two picks that I want. We'll keep the other one for you, Taryn, don't worry, you got you. But listen, I'm going to go with somebody. Actually, wasn't high on this person on their original

draft. I said, I did not think they were going to win. In fact, I said that they'd be, they'd probably be more likely to have their own podcast. than win the season. And I was wrong about both because I'm going to pick Aubrey.

Okay. Oh, okay. You're drafting for ages. You've had so much draft experience. You've got a shit, Territ. All right. I'm something old. What that Rob was talking about?

And something blue? That's true. The original try. Aubrey. She, first of all, doesn't like scented things covering bad smells. And then also, Asia,

I'm sorry, she does not like you. She doesn't like revisionist history. So, you kind of rewrite that to this podcast. I'm sorry. You are now on her list. The thing I like about Aubrey is that she obviously knows how to play the game and knows to play it well. She also, like Charlie, had that sort of like robbed status, but she's now a couple

seasons removed from that. So she's got like the respect, but not the immediate threat. I also think that she's in a good position to, I think, have good relationships, ideally because I think that she can fit in pretty well with like the old school players, but also fit in with new school players if she needs to. The only problem she has, Rob, yes, is Q.

Yeah, that's true. You did not like it. Mariah's favorite player was Aubrey. Yeah, it's a problem. It's a problem. If they put her on a tribe with Q, I might be looking at the grenade. but listen, I, uh, no, Q might be the grenade.

Q is the problem. Like, it's the problem. It's Q. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I really was interested to see Aubrey come back.

I didn't really think she was, uh, really dying to come back and play in Survivor 50. I kind of thought that she had sort of had her survivor experience and was ready to move on. But here she is. I really kind of have no idea what to expect from Aubrey, uh, six or seven years removed from the last time she played. I mean, she played so much Survivor in a short period of time. I think, did she play her

three seasons and three years, basically? And now it's like twice that since she's played. So who knows what Aubrey now a mom is going to be like playing on Survivor? I do think she's more of a quirky character than people think. I think that she has a reputation

of like, oh, she's like a female Cochran. And that is not who Aubrey is. Jeff even called her. She's a master, a master strategist. I'm like, no, that's not her either. I think Aubrey is a lot of things, though. I think she is a challenge beast. She's also a strategist,

but I think she's also very neurotic as well, and that's one of the things that we've seen her get in trouble with in her first seasons or whatever. She doesn't integrate well with the tribe sometimes. Like, she gets a little overwhelmed. And so I think that there's a lot of Aubrey energy. You know, she's like very assuming. I don't think you would know that you're going to get all of that out of Aubrey.

But I think the narrative would be very funny. I think Aubrey being the person who, quote, quote, should have won her season, you know, whatever, depending on where you stand on the end of that argument and to kind of have fallen from grace to now come back and win Survivor 50, I think it'd be a pretty cool story to tell. So I would love to see Aubrey do well in this game.

Yeah. We don't know because it's crazy to think the show has never passed up an opportunity to cast Aubrey since she first played. They love her. Every available returning opportunity that she possibly could have played, she's been cast. So at the point where I was processing her loss in Co-ROM,

she'd already played two more times. Like that one, and I was processing it at that point. You know, like, I think that she probably could have taken some time to sit with that, but they just kept bringing her back. And now she's, you know, yeah, as we said, like in a very different phase of life. And we can't possibly know how that will go. But if it's to her ceiling, then I think that could be great. And I think she is a really good pick.

I definitely do think she has wind potential. I think we could all be underrating her and they could be underrating her and kind of sleeping on her a bit because of how it's gone since. But I think she probably was just like exhausted from like the experience of plane survivor. these like brutal ways since that first loss every year for three years. So I think this is a really good pick.

Genuinely, I'm concerned they put her on a tribe with Q and people just throw along. Put her the me. Oh my God. That would be a lot. If they don't put it on a tribe with Q that would be shocking to me at that point.

I think the problem with putting her on a tribe with Q is that I think it ends immediately. Whereas if you put him on a separate tribe, you get the buildup. You know what I mean? That's not how they. thinking that like we want this episode one storyline right now. Like God, because you can't risk it. Yeah, what if we never get?

Because you can't risk it. Yeah, what if we never get it? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Okay. All right, anything else on Aubrey. All right. Here, let's go back to Chappelle. Chappelle was sweating these last two pitch when Asia was going. No. Taryn was going. Yeah. Yeah, well, I just was sweating on Asia because I thought Asia might pick the same person I was going to pick. That's all. I didn't really think Tara was going to pick. I'm going old. I don't, I don't, I, in my, soul. I think for me, a celebration of Survivor, 25 years of this show, 50 seasons,

would be an old school person winning the game. So I don't really care. There is one new school player I would draft and I just think they're going to have a hard time. So I'm not going to even talk about it. But anyway, yeah. So I want to pick somebody who I feel like they almost won the game. They almost did it once. And I think that with the new error and all the shenanigans and the challenges and all that good stuff, it would make my heart smile if we had, oh, my boy back all the way from Cook Islands to finally close the book on his story. Let Ozzy win the season and I'd be very happy. So I'm drafted in Ozzie.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, of course. I like Ozzy. I think that Ozzy has watched a lot of Survivor, okay, because he's been on 18,000 seasons. So at least he's seen the seasons that he's on. We know what he was good at, right? We saw the seasons that the things he were good at.

He's good at the challenges. He's a nature boy, all that good stuff. But Ozzy's social game actually improved because people were calling him French Ozzy and stuff like that at first. Avi has come close to winning Survivor twice. I don't want to just scoff at the fact that he could have won the season where coach comes back as well. So I don't know. I don't think maybe a longer game is probably bad for Ozzy, but a fast-paced game where you don't have a lot of time, I think maybe Ozzy is the one who's finding these advantages, who's like completing the beware advantages and stuff like that.

Like, I really think that for me, if you're going to tell the entire story of Survivor, yeah, Ozzie being the guy who basically won in a season where we get firemaking, come back and win a firemaking challenge and win his way to the end. I would love to see it. So I'm going with Ozzy. Yeah, I think Ozzie coming back now at this particular point in his life, I think he's going to be really interesting to see what he's like. And this is our issue where our biggest challenge of not getting to see the interviews

and really getting to know like what kind of headspace everybody else. is in because Ozzy last plays in Survivor Game Changers, which I think was what, like early 2016, I think, uh, when that was on. So almost nine years ago since Survivor Game Changers. So we all know about like, uh, like, you know, Ozzy's, uh, last decade or so, but I think he's a very introspective guy. It's hard to really get a sense of who's showing up on the island. And I don't think Ozzy's anybody's number one threat. Like, who's the got what's up, maybe Sarie, maybe Q, who knows? But, like, I really don't think that anybody's coming out there and be like,

we got to get Ozzy out or he will win the game. Like, who's really like, Ozzy? Okay, sure. No, it's like, one day we will get Ozzy out. But will you? I still think that, like, okay, like we mentioned earlier, Surrey is, like, one of the soul, like Mount Rushmore. But I still think that Ozzy is a household name

where people associate survival and challenges with Ozzie. Like, they're still thinking, like, oh, Ozzie. they're like amplifying him in their heads. So if it's a situation where it's just like, oh, we need to get out somebody who, I personally think everyone on Survivor 50 is going to prioritize getting out the people

they think will do well in individual immunity. And if that's the case, if I'm thinking from that standpoint, Ozzie would be gone early because that's what they would, like, I can't beat Ozzie. So why would I keep him here? Yeah.

A counterpoint. Yes. Well, no, if, if it's three tribes, which it seems like it might be, and then as you've thought, Rob, that it might be like double tribals early because 24 people in 26 days is insanity, they're going to need the physical threats.

It's the deprivation era. Ozzy is a survivalist who can get them food. Like, Ozzy is very useful to them. Like, he's at least very good for average draft placement. Underreported story, this season's going to mess with the average draft placement. There's going to be people 19 through 24. So that's obviously on my mind. So from that, which is obviously the main goal,

Chappelle, I think this is a really good. good pick. Can Ozzie win? I don't think no necessarily. I'm not like putting money on it, but I do think he has the capacity. He came very close to be fair. Twice. Yeah. So, well, I don't know, coming back multiple times into the game, at least one was planned, but like shenanigans on one of those. Shenan. Yes, Chappelle, it's your terminology. But he did, he, he, he, his first time he came pretty close. So I think he could win. And I think he's not going anywhere for a long, long time where he's like very physically and like island necessary for them. I think Angelina has a better shot of winning than Ozzy does this season.

Oh, okay. Ozzy who lost about one vote? Yeah. Yeah. Like how many years ago? Let's be real here. The first chance this man doesn't have individual immunity he's going to be looked at. He's just going to be looked at.

He's just going to be looked at. That was a lot. You don't know about that. Right. Yeah. And it's, it's been a while. Like, the thing about Ozzy is that he just doesn't play well with groups. He's such a solo player.

Right. And the reason he came close to winning twice was in both instances basically purely on his competition ability. And does he still have that level of competition ability in the new era where the competitions are not quite the same? And in a field of now younger people than him, many of them. And so does he still have the one thing that really was his like superpower? Probably not. but he still has the reputation for having that, which is like the worst case scenario.

And when it comes to like the social game and the strategy, it's just never been what he really does. So it's hard to see like a super successful run for Ozzy in my opinion. But Rachel just won out to the end, which was what I was saying, that the physical threats could do it. And if any cast can do it, this cast will have shields for Ozzie,

which is kind of crazy. Like maybe when he loses immunity, you want to get him, or maybe you want to get Jonathan. Maybe you want to get Jonathan. Maybe you want to get Christian. There are other people. And exactly his time. of people, right?

Like the Joe's and maybe, well, coach, there's, you know, there's obviously history. Yeah, Joe ain't voting out Ozzy. Yeah, that's not happening. Like, he's got his people in this class. Do I think it's a good season if Ozzy wins? No, I'm a little bit concerned about how that's gone. Coach and Ozzy do not get along, though.

That's a bit of a concern. Well, I do know, I found an interview, I'm sure this has been brought up on the podcast before, but he did an interview with Dalton Ross a few years ago where he said he would have loved to play with Stephen Fish. Yes. Well, he loves fish. He said that?

Yeah, he loves Fisher. Yes. Yes, he would have loved to play with Stephen Fish. He does love fish. It's so much research. It's crazy. I mean, Ozzy was my winner pick in Survivor Game Changers. I don't remember why I was so bullish on Ozzie coming back.

Because you had no reason to draft Sarah Lestina. That's why. Yeah. So, but yeah, I just feel like that he was kind of flat in game changers. But who knows? Maybe that because he's not known as somebody. who's super strategic. Maybe that is something that helps him where people

maybe it's like, well, he's not really the challenge guy he used to be and he's not super strategic. So we don't need to worry as much about Ozzy. Yeah. Okay. All right. Let's go to Puyah. It's been a minute since Puyah took Genevieve

at number two. We're back to Pooia at number 13. Yeah, hello. That's me. You did this on purpose. Oh, no. I don't feel good about this. But listen, Dave Ruder.

Here's a thing. We're like, we are truly in the middle of the drive. I think one of the things I also find with returning seasons is I do not think ultimately they can

truly be predicted. It's very tough. But I fancy myself someone who's going to gamble even further than just gambling on a, on a returney season. I'm going to pick someone who I have

no idea about them. I know nothing about them. We will not know anything about them. A 49er? A 49er. A cop out. Oh, I know about them. I'm picking a 49.

I mean, Terran's going to teach me about them because I don't know. You can pick woman 49er or a male 49er. I'm picking woman 49er. Oh, that's not a gamble as much. Come on. Terran's like, boo, boo. This is so early for the like, the box pick.

Like, I feel like there were still some people who, like, because at the point where you're going completely unknown, you're like everyone else is a negative to me. I don't know if we're at that point yet. So I know nothing about the woman from Survivor 49. I really I really don't I think I see her name in the chat and that I don't know her last name

I don't know I'm assuming she's she's a young person She's 31 I believe Yeah yeah or in her early 30s Yeah, this is crazy I really thought the audience was it's going to end up 49 Now yeah is this a mystery box or is there some like You got some intel? Yeah I mean listen the reality is it is truly a mystery box

I'm just going to be very honest. When I look at the remaining people on the board, literally any one of them could be our winner, but I just don't see it right now, which means I'm not really looking at it way. There's some people I could pick with the guarantee that they're going to go far, they're not the grenade,

but that's not what I'm here for. I'm here to, you know, I would rather be, I want to see a surprise. I want to see a surprise. So I'm very much here for it. And, you know, we'll see what happens. At the end of the day, this is what I'm looking at, right? I'm looking at the returnees from the new era.

We've already talked about the fact that Tiffany is the lowest placing person from the new era, right? At what, eighth place? And I still think eighth place is nothing to look like sideways. That I think is a good placement. So I think 49 people probably did decently or at least were enough of a sight to behold to be put on this season. So I think coming in as a blind item is tough. Yeah. Because no one knows who you are.

But I also think if you've got good social, that's enough to hold you for a little bit. Yeah. I was it. Michaela and Zeke came back. and Michaela didn't even make it to the merge. She was ninth place. So it's not necessarily a... Yeah.

Yeah. Right. That's going to be hell for the 49 draft, but we don't need to think about that today. The way that this is messing up without thinking of the 40... Don't even think about it. Asia.

With that scenario, Michaela and Zeke did not win, right? Millennials versus Gen X. And so I'm like with 49, there's... In what world are you bringing someone back who just won a month ago. Like that was an insane

last year. He won today. It's never happened, right, that they brought back the person who won. Don't think about it. Don't read it to what it says about what he knew. Russell would have been the club. Russell would have been the club.

They brought that. They were all shocked. Yeah. Okay. They were all shocked. We were who the world was shocked. They voted for them and was shocked. Oh.

I would have picked this. mystery box over many of the people in the cast. But I still think I had a couple that I would have gone to before the mystery. But it's not like that would have been last. Like it's not like necessarily the audience is getting the 49. It's like there's definitely some net negatives I think on the cast. I just think we still had some positives. But we have nothing to say.

We have never seen this person play. We don't know anything. Yeah. Like what I like the dream is we watch 49 play out and everyone's like, oh my God. That's who you got to steal. Yeah. It's like a time capsule. We'll look at.

We'll look back at this and either laugh or I'll cry. Who knows? Imagine if she's like Q. Oh, yeah. Oh, I might have to sit down. Well, have I done this? No, I don't know. But you know, the biggest troll of all time is it's this lady like a pre-merge boot

and like her entire cast. Like she thought was, yeah. But her entire cast is like, this is who you picked? This is who. No one else wanted to come back to those two. They just played. She was the only one they could get. Maybe.

They were like, she was such an iconic. first boot. I told Pooia was like maybe they both got medevacked and this is like a Bruce situation. I was like, come on. Come on back, Bruce.

We'll know if Asia picks them next time. All right. Anything else on our Survivor 49 women? Should I give my report? Or are we being vague? Oh, yeah. Skip ahead if you don't want to know anything

about this before Survivor 49. Taryn has a report. Yes. It's not a very very. extensive report. She basically she was an news anchor on like a local news show. She's a journalist. She recently

quit her job. I imagine to play Survivor. She's in the post. I'm so excited to see what crazy plans God has lined up for me next. Hopefully she's going with a better work life balance. And according to all of the comments, she was fairly beloved in her role as a news

a host person. So maybe she can, yeah, maybe she can work with, with Devons. Mm-hmm. She doesn't sound like you. Dun, dun dun dun dun dun dun. Yeah, I will say, I, just on the little looksie I took on the,

on the photos, wasn't getting the chaos vibes. Okay. All right. So Puyah is in at number 13, and Leanna's going to go for two picks, her second and third and final pick at 14 and 15. All right. I am shocked, like absolutely gobsmack that this person is still on the board.

Call me a hero. Call me a healer. Call me a hustler, baby. Chrissy Hoffbeck. I knew you would do it. That was my other pick, her or Aubrey. Yeah, that's actually, it's so funny. Those are the two I was between as well.

So I just, I am, I'm so thrilled. Like when Chrissy's name popped up on the list, I was like, Yeah, Chrissy. Like there was this just excitement that came back to me for having her, having the opportunity to play again. She is part of that lost era of the show, the opposed to game changers and especially Heroes Healers, right after game changers.

I have a very special place to my heart for Chrissy Hoffback, and I'm so excited to see her play. Yeah. She's one of the people from that like 35 over before new era that I thought should be on, but is going to lose their chance because they waited too long. I genuinely did not expect her to be on the ballot at all. I didn't. It was a very pleasant surprise.

Yeah. This is a clip from me talking about Chrissy in the original draft. Chrissy is probably my favorite person on the cast right now. But I don't know. I feel like she might be the kind of person that gets close, but then gets cut like a Surrey kind of figure here. Yeah. This sounds fake.

Did you split the audio? I heard a cut in there. I made the clip shorter. I don't want to make this like a. minute-long clip. No, y'all, you sounded so young. That was real. I don't know who the child is on this clip.

You think about your old drafts a lot. What do we do? Yeah, Taryn. You didn't play. He won a lot of them before we showed up. Yeah. Just you've clipped a lot of those. Whereas, like, you haven't that much from our drafts.

I'm sorry, Shannon. You're the person that's constantly giving me crap for not prepping for these drafts. And now all of a sudden, now that I've done some prep work, I've shown you up. Now you feel underprepared and you're trying to take me down a level. That's how it is. I don't feel unprepared. I was spoken to by Taylor Swift. Like, I feel fine.

I think it's impressive what you've done. I'm just like, I didn't realize you had other friends. It's fine. So, Chrissy. Yeah, I mean, Chrissy is an interesting pick. When I did the reactions with the global podcast,

Nick and Eden had her as their winner pick. We did win a pick. Wow. And they both had her. Yeah, they both had her. So I definitely see that. We did have the discussion of like,

looking back at it, everyone looks like Chrissy was meant to win and then the Fire Challenge was introduced and maybe now was taken away, which would be kind of an ironic way, to bookend that if it like affects her, she can go through without it. But then we think back and it's like, was, was Chrissy going to win? Was she ever winning with that jury?

Was Devin actually the one who got screwed over by fire? But it's been Mandela affected. That is a great point about Chrissy where the people that played with her on that season, they did not love her. And there was a period, a stretch of time where a bunch of the players who got voted off were very hard on Chrissy. culminating in Desi's exit interview, if we go back to that, where she really was very down on Chrissy. And so a lot of the people in that cast, that Chrissy was not their favorite person,

she certainly did a great job and won four immunity challenges to get to the end. I just wonder, I do think that this is a good draw for her in terms of like the people that are here, especially a lot of these people who played in the late 30s, I think are going to get along really well, with Christy. I think the three people from Survivor 37, I think Rick Devons, Aubrey, I could see getting along with Christy. So I do think that she

could have some allies there, but she isn't always the most popular player in the game and her social game, I think, that there are some holes. Yeah, but she doesn't have like the one glaring error, I would say, to her game.

Right? And there's a lot of them to me that's like, if you look at them, you're like, you're not good at this. Like I think Chrissy has a, she doesn't have the best social game, but I think it's fixable. And so I would be very high on her, you know, ability to kind of come back from the, the things that she wasn't able to do with. I mean, like, if Ben doesn't go and find 18 idols, you know, maybe she wasn't. Yeah, I think it is possible it just wasn't like a good group for Chrissy, although, to be fair, like, the jury not wanting to vote for you to extremes is a very, very damning floor. But I, I met her really briefly. She was so lovely. Like, I would have voted for her

from the little amount of time I spent talking to her. So maybe it just wasn't a good group for her. And I also think usually quite a tough demographic, but in this cast, but as we said, like older parents, she has a phenomenal story since coming back, I'm having gone through,

I think breast cancer. So I think she's a great casting pick. I'm really glad she wasn't overlooked in that late 30s group. I think it could go either way. So I think, yeah, especially getting her here is a really good pick. But I see the issues,

but I think it's still pretty good. And I think if I remember correctly, it was like the young kids that didn't really vibe with Chrissy and what was the older people too it was the women

yeah and the older people and then Joe Mena really didn't care for her also yeah Ben didn't

okay well I didn't know I guess work hated her yeah there was so many yeah yeah

yeah pet peeve by the way originally when someone doesn't hold a fork correctly and eats like a caveman hmm

Chris Christina Radkey didn't like Like, I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm just making them stuff. But yeah, I think, I think Chrissy is probably underrated amongst this group. I think they probably don't remember that she is a legitimate threat to win the game.

And so she's probably going to do pretty well. Yeah. And look, all these players could make adjustments, especially these one-time players. I do think there's a lot of unknown with the one-timers who were coming back more so than to people we've seen three and four times coming back. So there could be potentially a pivot for Chrissy that could really help. in this game. And I think she's somebody that even though she was a finalist, I don't think a lot of people are saying, oh, we have

to get out, Chrissy. We're very worried about her. She could sneak up on people. That's the hope. All right. Liana. She also was a financial analyst, if I'm not mistaken, at one point. Yeah, she was an actuary.

That became her heroic title, but I think she did both. All right. Let's go to Leanna for the third. And Final round. Kick us off with pick number 15. I'm torn between two people. I don't have anyone from the new era. And I don't have anyone that I drafted previously.

So I'm going to correct that. Two birds, one stone. Give me Joe. Joe! Okay. He just played yesterday, Leanna. I know he just played yesterday. He just got bad.

Do I think Joe will win? No. That's what this round is all about. Do I want Joe on my team? Safety. Yes. I think Joe will go far. I think Joe will be, I think that's the thing.

What I'm thinking about Jonathan, when I'm thinking about Joe, I'm thinking about these guys who are like maybe going to be good in a group, can be picked up, will be loyal, can make it deep into the game. And who knows, maybe some shenanaganizing happens. Now, obviously, I'm in the same situation with a losing finalist, right? Someone who we thought was going to do super well, got one vote. Thanks, Cedric. So, look, I don't know.

I have no idea how this is going to go, but this is what my gut is telling me. And so I'm excited about this back. My thing about Joe is if I just watched 48, I wouldn't want Joe in my alliance. He was so easily tricked to turn on his. actual loyal allies. I'd be supposed to have Joe in my alliance. Yeah.

It's great. And then also like the goal, you would hope that Joe watched it back and has now saw the thing, he saw the tape and said, okay, I saw what I did wrong. I can change and do better. But that would be antithetical to who Joe is because then Joe would have to not be

the beloved character that we got on the screen. He would have to do the opposite. The thing he despises the most, Leanna. Remember when Mary said she's going to vote for him? Yeah. It's like, what? Okay, but like, the thing is though, is like, okay, he's, like, he, even with the whole Kyle pulling the wool over his eyes, he has the confessionals where he's like, is Kyle playing

me? Like, there's some instincts there. Like, I think it's there. I'm hoping that with a whole week to recover and he goes right back out there, I'm just hoping that there will be some recovery for him. So I, you know what? I'm willing to risk it. and like we went into game changers and I'm like,

what I've said Brad Cole Pepper would be sitting at the end? Absolutely not. So I'm hoping we get a similar outcome. And I think that Joe win condition, I think is that he has a run like a Brad Culpepper where they leave him around and then he wins like the last like three or four challenges and ends up winning his way into the end with maybe some people that the jury doesn't see as worthy.

And then he could get the win that way. But I think he needs to like come from the underdog. position more so than where he was like being seen as a person who was holding the alliance together. But I think like who's going to let him hold the alliance together. I don't know. I'm just hoping that that's an opportunity. When I met Joe, sorry. No, but you're a new era correspondent. Please tell us about Joe.

When I met Joe, my first impression, this man is so charismatic. So likable. He makes you feel like you're the only person. person in the room when he's talking to you. Like, if that's what you're getting when you're interacting with Joe, your first thought isn't, oh yeah, you did just make final three. No, they see, okay, he was third place. There are actual winners here.

We could get out. But at least Joe can be useful. I think we're in that territory now of avoiding the grenade. So I think Joe is a solid pick. And I think Joe can go further than what we expect. Yeah, I'm, I'm in two minds about it because my first part is like, as we've said, this could be a good season for him. Like we see that contingent possibly shoring up and that would be a good vibe for him,

that kind of like mateship, loyalty, physical mentality. But the other aspect of that is he just had that and he still didn't win. And the reasons he lost were so fundamental to who he is as a person and a player where, I mean, I'm sure he does seem like a complete sparkly person. He seems like the best person. He seems like an incredible person. But there are issues that people have with it that they don't want to reward. with a jury vote and I think that's so hard to turn around.

Like that's not just like a couple of little things to try and change and it's also so recent to try and change it compared to like an Angelina where we're like, well, at least she's had the time to really like work through this. So I do think it's a good setup for him. But also I thought he was winning until the votes were red. So what do I know? Like I'm too high on Joe. So maybe I need to like check myself with that.

Even after final tribal? Yeah, I kind of did. Oh. I kind of, when it was one-one, I still thought, is Joe, is Joe going to win me still? I was, I was drinking the Kool-Aid though. But that's the thing. The Koolet was. strong. And I think that's the thing he has against him the most is that it's kind of like

what Rick Devons had during his season. Everyone was looking at Rick the entire season, like, Rick is going to win. So people started to root against him because it was like, obviously the season is going to be boring because Rick is about to win. We just did that with Joe yesterday. Like just, just, it just happened. And so I'm like, how do you forget, how do you not remember the Joe, you know, run that he just had on Survivor, despite his outcome? I think like at the merge, we're worried about Ozzie getting taken out first at the merge. The moment Joe doesn't win a challenge, I'm, I'm, what, come for his neck every time. Okay. Hey, and that's good for someone who just played, right? Like, I think, just played and made

it so far. And let's also, let's also not forget, I have a clip here. Now, I'm kidding, I don't. No. Joe's, uh, preseason interview with Mike Bloom, he said he did not like D's game. Nope. So I think that'll be very interesting if they are, if that's what they're going. for. Like, do all of these players have some type of beef that they, you know, like, if he... No, there's no connective tissue across the board with these people. Yeah. And that was crazy that they came up with this. There's a web that they're going to show us on episode one about how they're all connected. Just like the fans of Survivor.

Okay. All right. Liana, anything else we want to say about Joe? No. Okay. All right. So, Leanna is locked in with her draft team of Surrey. And then Chrissy and Joe. What a team. Okay. All right. Pooia.

Puya just shocked the world with season 49 female and also we got Genevieve. What's happening here? What's happening here? Oh my God. Yeah. I fear the shocks may not be over here because listen. I'm of two minds. You going for this hair?

Let me listen. That did cross my mind. But I don't think for it. Let me be honest with you. Let me be honest with you. I've spent the decent like five minutes of this last five minutes. I don't know what y'all said about Joe, but I'm sure it was very good points because I've been trying to figure out how I'm going to end my draft here.

Because I do think there are safe picks to not only not get grenaded, but then also, you know, if you're a Shannon, you're trying to bump up that average draft placement. I don't even have that. That sounds like a you think. I'm not doing none of that. I'm not doing none of that. So I'm not looking at some of these like people. who could just go far.

I'm like, I'm doing something that some of you might think is kooky, but listen, bear with me here. I want to stare at the grenade in the face because I think this could be a concern. There are two announced winners here. One of them I picked and won the draft with. The other, arguably the best new era winner, as touted by many, someone who I came to regret not picking. I think they're the top two. It doesn't narrow it down. Mariana, Russia, stop it.

And then I regretted not picking this person. in the draft where they inevitably get become the winner. Here we go again. I want D on the team. Okay. Give me a winner on the team. Queen.

Queen. I love her. I do not. I love her. I love her. Yeah. Dee falls very far all the way to pick 16.

She does have the winner curse here coming back. But if you're just looking at like the most well-rounded players that are on the board, like you can't go wrong with picking talent at this point in the draft. Yeah.

skill. Yeah. You literally just robbed me of the opportunity of picking D third again. I know, but listen, we can swap winners. Whatever. Okay. No, this is a good pick. This is the only person from the new era I even consider picking.

And I knew that she has the like the first, I mean, you know, like she has like the winner, the winter curse on her. But D is great. Like what does D's flaw in the game? Find it. It doesn't exist. You know, so it's like, we will be. finding out more about D that we never even learned about if she plays a bad game because

all we've ever seen her do is Excel and Survivor. There's no reason to not pick her except she already won. So I think there's a great picket. Right. I think snaking Genevieve and D from Asia was crazy work for you. Crazy. He doesn't like me. It's okay. Yeah, it's pretty I gave you my favorite number. We can share the we can share the teams Asia. We root for each other. That's how it goes. We root for each other. I think, I mean, D is a great win. I think people are now coming around on D in the wrong way. It's a witness time. It's a Like maybe she wasn't that good. It's like, no, she actually was.

You know what I mean? Like now people are like, well, what about this, this and this? I'm like, no, she was so solid. Well, if Austin hadn't done that, she made Austin do that. Like, she wielded all of her superpowers to win in a very impressive way. Like, I think it's the best win of the new era. I think, yeah, and if people are lower on it, just because it becomes like interesting to have a debate about it over time, which it's kind of getting to now, that could be good for her.

It is very, very tough to be one of just a couple of winners. That's obviously we're looking at that, but I was still going to take D, you know, next. If I could, if she was going to fall to me, I was definitely taking her. So I think this is a really good pick. I think Emily will work with her if they are somehow connected. I do feel like that she will go to bat for Kyle, which is one of the reasons why I'm a little worried with Camilla and Kyle, that Camilla could be the person who ends up going out if they're in like some kind of like all new era grouping at any point. So I think that D is somebody who I think that she has some outs to be able to get out of just avoiding the person who is a winner that we just need to get rid of.

Yeah. You can't spell Sandra Diaz twine without. I also think it's terrifying that D not only one, but also has a whole another season of a show. that's coming out before. Like, they know that, like, I would imagine people going on 50 have done their research and know that, oh, like, she, I don't know. They know that she has the ability to even go on this other show. And so it's one of those things where it's just like, I don't know who was aligning with her.

Like, yeah, okay, you may, like, the only reason I was thinking of picking D, was because I could easily see her being a situation on a tribe that does not lose first. I could see that happening. She is in tip-top shape. I be getting like workout tips from watching her stories. Like she is in peak condition. Yeah. But I just don't, I don't see an ally in this group who's wanting to hang on to the only winner that's a woman on this cast.

That's my biggest fear with her. and that's my biggest worry, like even if she goes to the first tribal, they're going after her. Yeah. She benefited from having a very strong alliance also in Survivor 45, and it was a very strong alliance that she was really at the center of, that she had an incredibly close relationship with Mama Jay.

And I don't know if there's going to be one person who's going to be undyingly loyal to her like that. But she also had that with Austin as well. So she had two people who, she was able to keep incredibly close to her in that specific game. So it's going to be very interesting to see what she's able to do without that here in Survivor 50. Yeah. Right.

She did that. The way that she won her game was to get her allies to lay over and die for her, basically. Which is amazing. It's just a very impressive way of winning the game. Does it work in an all-star season? I would normally say no, but I also watched winners at war. So it's like, who knows? Yeah.

Often, yes. In Australia it did. To bring up the other show that she will have featured on, a show where politicking is very much a part of the game, talking and socializing and making bonds that you got to stick to or try and stick to, I think it's huge training for not only a returney season, but also whatever the pregame was. We haven't even really talked about that in a whole much.

I have no idea what these people did going into the season, but that's a lot of gameplay there in and of itself. So I do agree, obviously, being one of two winners, maybe three. We don't know three, but being one of two winners, is a huge target. But I would be willing to bet on D being someone who can at least fight that for a little bit. Okay.

Here's hoping. She's so good. She's so good. Yeah. Yeah. People in the chat are debating about she should have gone home at final five. She had two people who were giving up their games for her. It was unlikely she would go home at the final five because she was so well interlated because she earned that.

And she gave us up the permission or the space to make a couple of mistakes and still be so protected. That was the D missed. So, yeah. All right. We still have five picks left in the draft. There are eight players left before Chappelle makes his pick at number six, 17. Then let's just reset and mention who is still on the board right now.

Okay, for the audience. Still on the board is Jenna Lewis, Colby, Stephanie, coach, then the, I think that's it for the old era and in the new era Jonathan Q Kyle Kyle and 49

and 49 male okay all right getting a little lean here at the end of the draft board it always does but luckily this time we don't have to go all the way to 18

that it's going to be and even so it's getting a little bit It's not the worst season to have the last pick. Yeah. My turn? Yes. Yes, sure. Okay.

I've been talking about narratives here because I really want this to be a good season with a cool story. And what cooler story would the winner of Survivor 50 be, if not from coming from season one? No. No. Jenna Lewis. Jenna Lewis, me. Jayne Lewis, me, baby. We're on the same page today.

That was like, I'm like, that is the next pick. that's the season that's the show that's you know that we're all tuning in for that and i i i i struggle would not pick in jena lewis earlier honestly because i think that if she won she would win the type of game i would like to see which is somebody who is not afraid to come in and cut the goats right they're like uh-uh i'm coming for the winners i'm coming for your faves because who's like jena lewis is my fame of all of these people like the stands are out there me hey jenna lewis uh stand account, please don't come after me. I thought we were on the same page. But yeah, like, I think that she's coming in and she's looking at the rest of them and be like, y'all think y'all

had shit. Okay, bet. I'm taking y'all out. We saw her do it in all stars and we hated it because she was taking out our faith. So they started this narrative that the winners and winner adjacent people, you know, couldn't go far in the game. She needs to do that again. Jenna Lewis needs to go and carve her way through this game with an ice pick. And I would love to see it. And so that's why I'm picking Jenna Lewis. Yeah. She will not have kid gloves on. with any of this stuff for the I'm sure I have not spoken to Jenna Lewis since it was just mentioned in the chat that I interviewed her during Survivor Cambodia so 10 years ago I'm sure she hates all the new era all the feelie like flashbacks and everything that's not who she is

that Jenna Lewis like as a player is just I think that she is a mercenary I've used that word a couple of times with her. And that's how she looks at this. Now, can she win if she gets up into the final three? I think that like Chappelle mentioned, she does have that beautiful, full circle story. I was in season one.

Now I didn't win. I'm here in season 50. Give me the money. But I just wonder, she is not going to be there to make friends. Right. And I don't want her to make friends. But I don't want her to make friends. I want her to come in

kill it. I want her to come in and kill it to where she's undeniable. You know what I'm saying? Like we're at the end they're like, damn, we only want to vote for Jill's, but we got to give it to her. You know, like she did the things. And I'm telling you, she cannot wait to sink her teeth into Jonathan. Or Joe. You think she's not going to latch on one of these big deals?

One of those guys. That that is going to be her key alliance. Yeah. Because neither one of them know how you played the first time. Oh, go ahead. Lian. My bad. Well, no. But Chappelle, so that was the other part. That was considering picking Jenna. And I think for that, I would love like her, Chrissy Hoffback, maybe a little bit

of Genevieve in there. Like, I want these like cutthroat ice queen women to all come together and like kill. That would be absolutely so fun. Yeah. I just, I, there is obviously a little bit of, I've just diversified my portfolio a little bit by going with a meat man. So that was the only reason why I didn't end up picking Jenna. But I'm, I'm thrilled for Jenna. I really, really want to see what she's going to do. And I'm hoping that she can find her footing and, like, be that mercenary that Rob described. Fun fact about Jenna Lewis. Yeah.

In the three years between Survivor Borneo and Survivor All-Stars, her favorite movie changed from Austin Powers to Fight Club. Oh. Oh. You know what? That fight club is totally a Jenna Lewis movie. Right. also keep her in check

it's like why is the discrepancy what happened did you stop liking awesome powers or did you only now just watch Fight Club like it's all I watch now I think she's been through a lot in her life I mean she was somebody who came in I mean she probably has been through a lot from before she went on Survivor

she was a single mom when she ended up having her life completely upended by Survivor she went through like that like meat grinder which was that whole experience comes out of that and then goes into Survivor All-Stars and all the things that came out of that experience.

So she's just been around this thing for so long. And I'm sure she's seen a lot of stuff. I believe she's a mom of four now. She's been doing real estate. I think in Orange County for quite some time. I've seen a lot of Facebook posts about she seems to be very successful. Maybe she's going to be somebody who is able to work with Q and bond with him about that. but she is a really tough lady, Jenna Lewis,

and I don't think anybody should mess with her. Yeah, that's what I'm hoping. Taryn, play a clip from when you drafted Jenna Lewis the first time. Yeah, give me a second. It's right here. I love Jenna Lewis. I'm too much. Mama.

Eight. I'm sorry, eight. I was seven. It feels so long ago. Okay. I like the big. He was next in my list. All right.

Jenna Lewis goes to Chappelle. And Chappelle's team is locked for season 50. He's got Rick Devin's Ozzy and Jenna Lewis. Yeah. Oh, they're only, baby. I feel like wherever people shouldn't be on this season. Get them out of here. If we did predictions at the beginning of who do you think is going to end up on whose team,

I would have never predicted this team for Chappelle. It's a very interesting team. Yeah. I kind of, it's all, I really want to say like a lot of it is based on like, you know, how they're done. But it is, but there's definitely a lot of like, but I love these people. These are our survivor faves that we've watched over the years. And then, you know, obviously. So I've grown to like a lot of them a lot and I want to see, I want to just see my faves do well.

And so I had to pick them because I want them on my team. That's all. All right. Let's go to Taryn. Okay. I feel like I've got a few options and they're all pretty similar. Okay. I have one option, but there's like three people that can slot into this spot.

Yeah. Right, right, right. Yeah. Wow. Now everyone comes crawling back to the meaty men. When there are only meaty men left and a lot of this cast is meaty men. Shannon's like, okay. No, I don't want him.

I don't want to make a meat. Yeah. That's me. I love meat famously. Yeah. Man, I'm genuinely, I'm genuinely torn because I feel like there's an argument in either direction. But I think I'm going to go with one of my previous draft picks. Okay.

I want to pick Jonathan. Okay. Probably a chalk pick. People probably thought Jonathan was not going to get drafted. All right. Talk us through on. Jonathan? His pet peeve is wearing shirts.

I was like those abs. Dear God. I feel like the argument for Jonathan is, I think he's probably going to stick around for a while. Yes. He made it really far in his original season further than, you know, you would expect somebody of his stature to get. And I think that if you're on a tribe with him, I think that you want him around. Once he gets to the merge, I feel like where he might not have had the respect to win his original season, even if he had made it to the end, I think that there are enough meaty men on this season that they might actually vote for him. You know, like, I feel like the Colby's and coaches and Ozies and Joe's, like, they're all going to be like, yeah, give it up to Jonathan.

he drinks two gallons of milk every day. He eats 21 eggs. 25 eggs, 50 eggs for season 50. Yeah. I could get stalled. And I think he's going to really clean house in a lot of the challenges. He's one of the younger guys on the cast.

And so, yeah, I... That's why they call him, that. That's what they call him, man. This is where I feel like he is. Well, I mean, that shot of him, like, dragging his whole tribe through the water is like emblazoned in my mind. So I think that you can't discount that. No way this man is grenaded.

Like total safe pick for that. Yeah. Insurance there. Again, like I just, I just think like who's gonna vote out Jonathan? Yeah. Right? I feel like there's bigger threats than me, even when you get to individual immunity stages. Shannon, I feel like that you probably

know Survivor 42 the best on the panel. That do you remember Jonathan's social game? I really, because I really don't remember, like, I, the only thing I remember is the tribal council where Drea and Marianne both played their idols and him,

uh, coming off badly there. But I really don't remember much else that Jonathan did socially in Survivor 42. I feel like, Lindsay was getting, was getting annoyed with him in the post merge. Yeah. He had a good relationship with Mike.

Um, and then I feel like he was kind of gifted this great, like, Itaku Alliance, but I don't know if that was like on the back of social graces. I don't know if it was terrible, but I'm not like really backing his social game. I'm surprised that I didn't draft Jonathan last time. It kind of feels like something that I would have done. But yeah, I mean, also there is a, there are a lot of gamers on this cast.

Is Jonathan going to like out game them? And also, to be fair, Jonathan, like made fire and he lost it like the, like he should be winning that type of game. So I don't know. I don't feel, I don't feel great about his chances. like we are in the middle of Fiji. We don't need no more meat baby. But maybe this is past.

I do suspect he has been coached up by Boston Rob. I don't know necessarily like, you know, if you can, you know, get taught by a bird how to fly. But I think that Boston Rob probably has taken him under his wing. I would say less so Island of the Idol, like give you advice on how to play the game and more so opening up the connections that Boston Rob has. would be much more valuable. Yeah, who, Taryn, who on here would you say, like, Boston Rob was probably, like, put Jonathan in the door with good?

Like, he knows Jenna Lewis. I'm not up on the relationship. Rob does know everybody, but I feel like that of the people, I mean, coach is somebody that, you know, has a direct connection to Rob. Oh, God. Oh, my God. Probably Colby. Yeah. I'm telling you. I think a lot of these men are going to be wanting to work together.

Yeah. And Jonathan's probably not going to tribal council at all in the pre-merge. Like, it's just not going to happen. So they're not going to have a lot of chances to get them out anyway into, you know, the individual game. So it'll be tough to take him out. Now, I don't know if he can stand in front of a jury and, you know, plead his case and win a million dollars like that.

I don't know. But when Coach and Colby and Joe are on the jury, you know. Then it wouldn't take much. You're right. My God, this is. Shannon, what are we? He's right. When he's right, he's right.

Season's not, why would you put that out into the universe? Like that's your manifesting? It's what I did. I said, I said, Jonathan's my boring pick when I picked him originally, and it didn't happen. So maybe what I'm doing is helping make it not happen again.

Look, great for the average draft place, but right, like he's going to be essential in this early game. He's not going anywhere for a while, which is why, again, I'm really shocked that I didn't pick him, but, well you were Keaton you drafted him to come back right he was on your

picks to come back and he was a love for from so long look he is somebody from the Survivor Facebook page beloved and I think that he is the one person like who really fits that category the audience love somebody who is

like really different from the rest of the mold and he certainly had that so I always felt very strongly that we would see him come back especially when it was You won that draw. New Era All-Stars. Yeah. And he's the one representative from 41 to 44.

So like Gil said, I think he's going to... He's like old school now. Yeah. I think he's going to be with the old school people. Yeah, I mean, it's the same reason I picked Aubrey where I feel like he has the ability to work with both sides. Okay. All right.

So three picks left in the draft. Asia has picked number 19. We have now the... This is the longest draft in the history of our draft. And it feels like it. We did it. We did it. Shannon, we're doing great.

It's only 226. I think I might get Peter from the airport. I think I'm doing pretty well. It wasn't my priority, but I think I might be able to- All that, man. This has been Zippy. Thank you. Asia, you celebrated when Taryn picked Jonathan.

Why? I did because he said this is somebody I drafted. And the person that I'm picking, Taryn couldn't have drafted. So I was like, okay, this is great. Okay. So I'm going to go with somebody. And I'll present it before I say it.

Oh. Just really quickly. Of course, it doesn't want to work. This is an awkward at all. I know. But let me talk up the person. This is somebody who I don't think is in danger of going first. I think we've dodged that.

And so I think I'll be good. I don't think that that'll be an issue. Okay, this did not work for me. But here we go. I have, this is the person that I'm going to draft. That is. Colby. That was so unexpected.

You were right to breathe a sigh of relief because he was the other one I was kind of going back and forth. Yeah. Okay. Chappelle, you and I are so in sync today. Come on. You have the same brain. Okay.

To be fair, we had two of the worst drafts in history last, last round. I'm like, terrible. All right. Asia, talk us through your pick, not your pick with Colby, your pick of Colby. Okay. So you don't want to know about my pick with?

Yeah, well, I'm assuming it was from 2017 when we went to the live show. Did you have? Good. It was the night I first met Rob. Yes. I was there. Were you more excited about meeting?

Colby or Rob. Oh, Rob for sure. Well, basically, she's known them For the exact same amount of time. So they're kind of equal. Asia, did you have an interaction with Colby? Do you remember what you talked about with him? He was just very nice.

He was just like, I can't remember the exact details. I just remember getting the vibe like, this is a nice guy. You know, that's it. Yep. What a neat guy. He wasn't, yeah. There were no, I didn't get any bad vibes. Oh, I also met Leanna that night.

Oh. Leanna, do you remember? I absolutely remember. Everybody was there, but nobody met Chappelle. I was also there. I was there. I was there. Nobody knows.

Yeah. It was a great night that night in Austin, Texas, where Colby came back. And we were all eating out of the palm of his hand that night because that he was really, like, the experience that I felt it was almost like, you know, the QB1 comes back to the high school to talk about his stories of glory. And we were all captivated. that night. And he was,

he was feeling it. So here he is, Asia. Why do you feel like he's going to win Survivor 50? Well, that's not what it came down to for me. I don't think that he will win.

Oh, you think he won't be first boom? That he won't go home first. Yeah. Very hard to clear here, Rob. Yeah. Honestly, I'm very nervous with,

I'm very nervous with the like pre-20 Survivor players minus three. because I feel like there's this certain feeling about the new era and I feel like it's going to 26 days, this is nothing who cares about all this stuff oh my gosh these challenges

I think there's going to be a lot of that and I could see Colby being vocal about it and now he's in his later years right? Or later days. Later days.

Yeah, and so I don't think that what people were threatened by young Colby, younger Colby, I don't think they would be threatened by that today. Like, he's not in the same category as Jonathan and Joe. Yeah. Everyone remembers Colby for Heroes versus Villains, where he seemed kind of tapped out

and he got manhandled by coach. And I think that that's amazing for him because I think the perception of Colby can only go up. I think a lot of people will not be threatened by him. And they'll also like hang out with him and be like, wow, he's so much more energetic and charming than I expected. I think that's a great place to be. Yeah, I think it's possible that maybe Heroes versus Villains was maybe like an outlier. And I also think it's possible that he was unhappy with how Heroes versus Villains went and maybe was...

What's that? It was fine. I think anyone would look back at that and think that that went well. I can't imagine he was upset by that. season. I had gotten this argument. It was, I don't know if I'm talking out of school, but Brandon Donlin was trying to talk me into that Colby could be really into it. Like, he was kind of over it last time and maybe he's at a different stage of his life of like, yeah, I wish I had one more shot at this. And maybe he comes back and maybe he does have a fire to come back and play it one more

time and sort of like correct the record. Because I'm sure people say to him all the time, wow, you weren't the same on heroes versus villains. And I wonder if maybe he does want to come back and sort of like correct the record. Well, I can tell you, his Heroes versus Villains bio, he lists the player he least respects are those who throw in the towel early and leave the game. But like, I think he has now a reputation for somebody who like didn't give his all, who didn't really try. And those are the players he least respects.

He wants to make sure he doesn't give that perception again. That's confusing. So, okay, I think that him being a threat is like the least of his issues. I think that the issue is that this game is so far beyond what he could even conceptualize. Like he's playing like a completely different thing than maybe he knows. Or we've seen today, sometimes people who usually don't prep at all come in heliprepped and you're confused by it. Maybe he will tarin in Survivor 50. We don't know.

If that's what happens. And again, Colby's a different person than I know him to be. And then he could do well. But I just kind of imagine a world in a world. where Colby doesn't just win Survivor 50. Kobe wins like a post-new era game. Right. What does that look like?

I just can't imagine it. It's almost like Kobe barely had a fundamental understanding about how to win Survivor the first time. And so it was like, when he played the first time, he made the mistake. You know, like the one error you could make in the initial days before there were idols and all this other stuff was like, sit next to somebody that you can beat.

Like that was like the game. And then he did that wrong. So then it was like he comes back for All-Stars. And it's not like he showed up and was like a contender to win the game there. And then he goes to Heroes or Villains and it was like he's not even really tapped in. So it's like now all of a sudden, Kobe is going to understand a more intricate version of all the other times that he played and then beat people who have experience with that, who have also been watching the show. The thing about Kobe at that event where Asia met Leanna and I didn't meet anybody except, you know,

Jarvis just there was it. It was like QB1 came back and was like telling his old stories. And everybody was like, yeah, look at the new football stadium and the statue. we built in your honor. And he was like, what? Y'all still watch football? Like, that's how he was. He was like, Survivor's still on?

I just got to call it. I just had to come here. Like, he was so lost. Like, we were like, tell us about Reed. He's like, how do you all? You know, like, it was stuff like that. He was not tapped in at all. So I'm concerned about Colby.

I don't think, I don't say he can't win. I'm just concerned. And you just say he can't win. She drafted him. So, yeah. The cool thing about Colby, right, is that I think if Colby wins Survivor 50, it re-contextualizes like 25 years of Survivor history. Yeah.

Yeah. You know what I mean? We have to change the text. There's like a through line of Colby all of a sudden that is wild and interesting. That is, even him being back. Survivor was too slow for him. It's like he didn't want to win the first time. The second time there was too much pre-gaming.

The third time it was Russell Hansford T. But then he, when he finally came back, you know, when the game has fed up a little bit, when we could keep up with Kobe. I think it would make, like, Like Normie headlines if Colby won Survivor. Oh, absolutely. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Best case scenario is Colby winning. I said this on the global podcast, but when I was talking to my dad last week before the 50 cast was enough, about AUV World, I told him the cast and he said, where is Boston Rob and the guy who was on Kerker enthusiasm? So, like, definitely in terms of like, and my dad is like the ultimate day one casual,

who remembers like five people from the show ever, clearly. Okay. So 100% that's what Colby's bringing. Like, Colby doesn't even know that. You know, like, Colby doesn't even know where he's sitting in that. It's just a crazy. be person to be. It's just wonderful, but good luck to him. All right. So there is Asia's pick Colby. And now Shannon, you will have your final pick. By the way, Asia's team ends up being

Camilla, Angelina and Colby. All right. Here comes Shannon. Shannon, there are five people that are still on the board. Okay. And those five people are, we've got in no particular order. Stephanie LaGroza. We've got coach. We've got Q. We've got Kyle. We got Riz God.

That was a very particular order. That was the order that they played. Yeah. I have had one of these people on my team before. Yes. You're doing it? Well, I could have the experience of Q in my draft team twice. Yes.

She wants to be the problem. I do love to, yeah, I do love to table set, which is weird because I don't like actually table setting. I would not wish that experience on anyone having queuing your draft team twice. Okay, it was a ride that I went on one time and that was enough for me. I'm happy to have had this person fall to me. After the general Lewis pick, I had this person in my mind. Now, on the global podcast, I said RIP, Kyle. It's not a good spot for Kyle.

However, when we're looking at the board and who the rob is going to get and who, the fans are going to get. Kyle can win because Carl has one. Carl has the skills to win Survivor. He is a good player. He's a really good player. And as he said, I'm so regretful that I didn't drive him the first time, but it's fine.

It would have been gradated. But he's a really good player of the game. He's a victim of his circumstances. But he also is a strong player that they're going to need early. Maybe that gives him time to get over having one last week and his two closest allies being there. Maybe they get voted out of other tribes and maybe we're just not thinking about it as much.

Maybe D is helping him. Maybe there's a 49 winner helping him. Maybe it's not as a parent when he can slide under the radar, be likable, be all of the kind of skills he gave last week. When Q was causing all the drama, when there are other bigger threats, maybe Kyle can do it.

Would it be insane to win back to back literally like that? Yes. I don't think he's the grenade, and I think he maybe can give himself time to actually maybe be an insanely tiny sneaker when it picked. Maybe. Tyler's my pick. Hey, job.

Yeah, he does have the thing going for him where he's going to say, guys, nobody's going to vote for me to win. And they're like, yes, because you're going home today. You're going home right now. You're not going to vote for me. I'm just, you know,

because tonight. I'm like, hey, we're voting for you tonight, buddy. I don't think it's a very good argument if you're Kyle does that know. You just got a bunch of people vote for you. Yeah, no, I mean, Kyle is interesting because he's the opposite of D in many ways in that he won by being like a trickster. Like he kind of like stayed under.

Nobody knew what kind of game he was playing and he made it to the end because nobody saw it. But everyone just saw it. So that's kind of like the tough thing to come back and do. And I think the best players are the ones that are able to come back and do that already being exposed and finding like a new angle. So the question is, does he have that? year. And I think he might, but I think it's also like not a great cast for him. So it'll be very interesting to see at the very least what he does here. These people, I would judge every one of them if they let Kyle, who they just watched Win Survivor. When Survivor game. Like the way their

stock is all falling in my, like none of these people. Put them on the Mount Rushmore. None of them. No, we are, no, all of them. All of them are now removed. Or is Kyle that good? He's the greatest smart player at all time. Two for two. But could you, could you?

Back to. You can't lose. Okay. Okay. Okay. I see you. I hear you and I literally said RIP Carl on Survivor Global. But if you look at who I had, 49 male question mark, coach, Stephanie, who else, Q, this was a good pick with what I had.

I was considering Kyle. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely almost won a season of Survivor. Kyle did win a season of Survivor. He won yesterday. Look, here's the thing. These people...

Definitely did not always win that season. That's not what happened. Okay. She got far. She got very, very far. That's true. She got second. But yeah, this is crazy.

I just would judge these people. Where's your killer instinct? You let this man do this to you twice, like in a row? Days apart. Here's the thing. Season 48. of Survivor is the most watched new era season of Survivor amongst the alumni of Survivor of the old era

because of how many people were in the running and were thinking, let me just keep up and brush up on this. This had a lot of eyeballs on it. Kyle had a lot of eyeballs on him, wins the season, and his two closest allies are also with him on the island. Like obviously we've got worries for, you know, Camilla being attached to Kyle and maybe getting sniped early. Kyle is the one that also has the bag from that season next to him.

And if there's only one other person that has one next to him, that's not a great spot to be in. I'm very worried for him. And I would love to see him fight back and go back to back. They'll be nuts to watch. I be incredible to watch. I just worry heavily. I feel like three of you being on this cast and you're the last bit of Survivor they

watched before they went on the island. It's too fresh. It's too fresh on the mind. Especially with like, I mean, I think Kyle would have to play a, I mean, obviously, we'd have to play a different kind of game. And from what they saw, my number one draft pick, Camilla, was the brains of everything of like their big moves throughout the season. And so my issue here is you don't let, you don't even let someone that just won a million dollars. make it even like,

you get what I'm saying, like, you know, you don't, you know, like, each placement, he goes further,

that's making them look silly because it's just like you just saw him. Like, they should just imagine him with a big check that says a million dollars and it's like easy.

I don't, I don't think anybody on this cast is dumb. Well, all it takes is a good starting tribe. and it's an entirely new game. Early, like if he wasn't physically necessary early, then I would be like, like, I think that he's going to get some time.

I don't think, I don't think he's going to win. I just think as well that if they're watching 48, it is also possible, like, yeah, maybe they do look like, well, Camilla was the one. And I think that that is not true of their partnership, but like Camilla was really the one driving. I think they both had separate skills and Carl was playing. Yes, yes, yes. I think that it's possible that a lot of people on this cast,

like it's coach watching and thinking Kyle, or is coach watching and being like, look at that, Joe guy. Like so much was Joe's story and Joe is there to take up that room. I'm grasping at straws for sure. I'm like a late late pick, you know, later than we've ever had a draft of a season before of players playing because we, you know, we did the, who will be on 50. But yeah, we've never got into this late in the draft for me. I just think that there is, compared to everyone else that was left, I think there's something there. I don't know why Kyle did this. Like he's such a good player who maybe in years from now had a chance. Why is this what he chose to do? It's such a hard

You got to throw one away. That's what Tony did. Yeah. Yeah. Sacrifice 50 for like for. They call you and they say you're part of 50. Yeah. You're not going to say no.

You got to think he should have. But maybe he's playing the long game to win in the future. But it's going to be a long time before we can get the cameo from him before I can give him the chizzy mug. Kyle, where are you? We need you. Look, I think Kyle. I think Kyle's great. I think he's a great person, a great guy.

I just don't think that anyone is. going to see through, like, oh my gosh, Kyle is so great to talk to you. Anyone's not going to see through the fact that you cannot let, like, you are basically paving a path for a second time winner when there are 22 other people here who have not won. There's a lot of moments in this draft where we've talked about players like that that you could use as the intro to a fan cam when they do win. So just giving y'all free content out there if you want to slam dunk on us. All right.

Get Levina standing by. Okay. Yes. All right. So Shannon ends up going with the 20th pick in the supersized draft of Kyle. Okay. It's down to me for the final pick of the night. Yes.

There will be three picks coming the way of the audience. The chat is trying to talk me into Riz God. They say, Rob, your kids will love it. Yeah. Five big booms for the Riz God. What? What? Rob.

Rob, no, that's not my pick. That's not my pick. No. Rob. He didn't pick that. Work back with Rob. Tell us who you don't have. Yeah, yeah.

Great. So sorry. Sorry to the chat. I will not take the Riz God. Okay. You got the Riz God. You got the Dune. Let's know.

Big do. No, just say 49 mail. We're not meant to be exploring the name. Oh, yeah. I don't think they care. All right. Yeah. I did go to Costco yesterday, Pui and Leanna.

I did buy chicken bake and also a double chocolate chunk cookie. I didn't eat it. I bought it for my kids. My kids were like, Dad, give us chicken bake. You got to. It looks like a lot. It looks intense. It's a lot.

It's a lot. It's a fight with Dominic that he couldn't have the whole thing. Okay. All right. Then, all right. I will not be taking Stephanie LaGrosa. Okay. Stephanie LaGrosa is going to the chat.

I just don't see it. Don't see the world where, you know, Stephanie has like the relationships and the, you know, she didn't do great in a final tribal council the first time that they didn't love her on Guatemala. I feel like that she's been away from the game for too long. So I don't see it for Stephanie. Can I give you what I found out for Stephanie and her original, her, her, her, her versus Jillens bio. She said the players she least respect. are any female who plays the game for the wrong reasons.

Why did she say that? Why did she say it like that? Why did she make it female specifically? Why wasn't it just everyone? Shannon narrating my thoughts when I read that. What? Yeah. What was in the right reasons?

Rob, you are down to coach and a cue. Incredible. Incredible. I could make the case for either of them. I really could. I really could. But that the answer is clear to me. Okay.

And I really, I got so nervous when Shannon started going because I really thought she was going to double down. If my pick's not Q, it's hands of Christmas. It's Q. And I really do think there is a world where Q can win Survivor 50. I really do think it could happen. because we, I think we said like, oh, well, Tony can't win Survivor 40.

That's Tony. That was Tony. But what did he do? What did he do? He was so silly. He created that he was just, they thought he was such a goofball that people didn't take him seriously until it was too late. Q is an incredibly successful person in his business. Like he's not a dummy.

And I think that he probably learned a lot from his Survivor 46 experience. He was somebody that I don't know if people are going to be threatened by. He may get on people's nerves. That's certainly possible. But he's somebody who was a force in the game. People listen to him. I think that they're like, oh, he'll get himself into trouble. Asia, could you see Genevieve working with Q?

Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. He's so entertaining. He's so entertaining. I really do think that people are going to enjoy being around him. and I do think that he doesn't have to necessarily make some of the same mistakes he made in Survivor 46. And so I think that he is entirely capable.

He's somebody that, I don't know if people consider him to be a big threat to win the individual immunities, and I think that he certainly could. He kind of stunk in the challenges in Survivor 46. Maybe he can put it into another gear. And I think that if he gets to the final three, he's such a force of personality. he's going to have everybody cracking up. I think he has a super likable side to him. And I think Q could do it.

I think you're totally right. I think that, which is why I am worried about Aubrey, if she's on the same starting tribe. Because the thing about Q is that he leads votes. Like he's going to be like, I'm going to name names. And that's super valuable. Because if he's naming a name that's not in your group, then you can just ride Q and let him go wild.

point him in the right direction and let him be this big figurehead. It's kind of what they did with Philip in, like, South Pacific or not South Pacific, the one that Cochran one. Yes. And so, you know, I think that, because he wanted his Philip, right?

Like, I think that they will want him to be somebody who is going to be leading a charge and leading votes and making a big target of himself. But the thing about Q is that he is no Philip. He is somebody that if you are not careful, he will bite the hand that is feeding him and he will take control, genuine control. And I think could certainly get respect enough to win a game if he makes it to the end. I think that people will underestimate you. Now, that's the fun side of all this.

I do think that part of the Q recipe for success, I do think is that he ends up pairing up with a lot of these meaty men that we're talking about. Like, I think that those are the kind of guys that might end up following. somebody like Q said in season 46 like okay I'm going to QB this thing like I think he could be the guy who is the brains behind the meaty men I was honestly higher on Q coming into this draft but the more we kept being like but then when Q comes in and I'm like he's going to be the central and then I remember it like it's in my bones that I was like oh yeah so Rob I need to teach you we need to have it we'll offline we'll have a discussion where I can teach you how to have Q on your team My number one tip is have fun with it.

Don't put too much sock into it. Yeah. Yeah, just have fun. Enjoy the ride and just hope for the best. That's basically because having Q is your draft pick is quite an experience. Okay. Asia, you have any commentary on Q? You know, that's a tough pick.

I think Q just has, he is larger than life. His personality is huge. Do I think that early, I think only Q can get in Q's way. I think if Q approached this like, look, I'm a different guy, okay? I'm not, who do y'all want out? If he takes that approach, no one is seeing him as an immediate threat. But if he comes in, guns ablazing, Aubrey's got to go.

Did you see what happened with Mo? Aubrey's got to go. Then I think it's going to be one of those situations or people, and if Tiffany can be like, yeah, this is Q, this is how he always is. Like, there's no change. I think it would be very easy for him to be the grenade. Yeah, it's just like If you're, we thought

We've been thinking about Q for two hours and 51 minutes So there's no way that he is somebody that just slips on by You know He's not gonna like capital Q quit right No, no way That's also the other concern That he was Colby will talk him out of it

I am I'm happy that I still speak Q and Q Because I have to get back into my Q language If I may, I'd also like to just talk about coach here for a second that I did consider coach. I do think that there is a chance that coach does have some upside in this season. I mean, don't forget that coach the last time we saw him, he went to a final tribal council. He lost South Pacific by just a couple of votes because he couldn't really bring himself to say what the jury wanted him to say. But I do think that there was a possibility that he could have said the right thing to potentially unlock the jury.

No disrespect to Sophie who did do a. great job with the jury of Survivor South Pacific. So I think that with how many years, what, 13 years of reflection, you know, at a different place in his life, I think that people are going to probably enjoy being around coach. It is like meeting a celebrity for these people from the new era. And I think that coach, that it's possible that he is not going to be seen as a threat in this game. I think he has a reputation of kind of being like a joke.

And so I think people are, ah, we're not worried about it. not coach, not worried about coach, but then all of a sudden you look up and he's in the final three and it's like, all right, sure, I'll vote for the legend. Can I, I, I'm just going to take a moment. I couldn't pick a single quote. Would you mind if I read his whole bio

from his original season? Sure. Benjamin Wade is known by many names. As the head of women's soccer coach itself, West Baptist University in Miniserie, he's called Coach Wade. He also goes by Maestro due to his role as an artistic director and conductor at a California Symphony

orchestra. A skilled musician, Benjamin was traveling the world playing the trumpet before most kids could even spell trumpet. Wade sees coaching as another form of manipulation. You have to find out what everybody wants, what everybody needs, what they think they want, what they think they need. And then you have to be the person that solves everything. He knows these skills will be valuable in the game of Survivor. If Benjamin was asked just to wear one hat, it would be that of Renaissance Man. Aside from setting the world record for the longest solo kayak expedition on the ocean, an amazing 6,132 miles, which I could not verify, by the way, Wade has also been attacked by a tiger shark,

stalked by a jaguar on the Amazon, and has been bitten by a piranha on his right hand. To say that he is a type A alpha male who likes to control the environment around him may just be an understatement. Coach's dominant personality will be a force to be reckoned with in the game. Where was the lie?

I like the day he specified right hand. Yeah, I agree. I don't know why that's so down to me. Were the other bios on the season of a similar style and lens? or was the specific to coach? They knew they were cooking. It's funny.

To me, Rob made a better point for coach winning than he did for Q. I was like, I don't know why you didn't pick coach. I feel like, you're right. And I think coach is socially ingrained in Survivor in a way that's probably underrated. He knows the new era of people and he knows the old era of people. We've seen him like, he's like on tour with Ben Katzman. Like he knows Charlie. He's going to know a lot of these people.

And I don't know. Like, yeah, it's like if you're looking at threats, you're probably not, your first thought, is it? probably like, let's get out coach. And if there's a big mini men alliance of the men slapping meats, coach is right there, be like, yes, iron, sharpen iron, please. Meat, sharp and meat. Yeah, meat slapped meat.

And so he's doing all of those things. The coach's greatest hits are going to be playing throughout this season, and no one's going to be thinking, we got to get out coach. So if coach can somehow go to the end, be likable, and not piss off everybody and, you know, do a little something, DeLube 1-2? I think Coach has it. Now, Q, that might be a little bit more difficult for him.

If Q got taken, I would have taken Coach with that pick at 21. But I just think that there's something about Q and I could, I really could see him being like the face of the winner of Survivor 50. What? Oh, Rob. You're going to have a fun time. Okay. So on an overall, who do you all think is the best player?

in the audience's team. Who's got the best audience? Oh, season 49 mail, easy. Riz God. I think coach. Well, I don't know about, I don't know if season 49 mail. If we're talking about the best player,

then I think that the mystery box is probably the chance to be maybe the most well-rounded of the three. I do have a small report on Riz God if we want to have this more. Again, this is not something that nobody knows. Jump three minutes if you want. It'll not be three minutes.

it'll be about 30 to 60 seconds. There we go. Basically, he has played in a bunch of online reality games. And including Big Brother ones and Survivor ones. I have not seen him do particularly well in them, though. He has not won any games that I can see. His highest placement, I think, was like sixth. No bad.

Not bad at all. Sorry, fifth. Fifth in a Big Brother game. All right. There you go. That is the written out report. All right. Thank you for you.

Research, Taryn. You've brought so much prepped to this podcast. Yeah. Great job there. Sounds like you're being shady, Shannon. I don't know. I'm told on a little shady. All right.

Let's not admit to come out. Let's recap our big Survivor 50 draft. We've got Leanna who got it all started. And she ends up with Surrey, Christy and Joe. Pooya went second. He ends up with Genevieve, season of 49 female. and D All-Women team for Puyah.

Look at that. Okay. Chappelle ends up with Devons, Ozzie and Jenna, the all-old school team. Taryn ends up with Christian, Aubrey, and Jonathan.

Don't have a common denominator there, but... Again, they made this cast, though. I was looking forward to it. Okay. Asia has Camilla, Angelina, and Colby. One of each era.

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Then Shannon ends up with Charlie, Emily Flippin, and Kyle. The all new era team? Yes. Rob ends up with, okay, Mike White, Tiffany, and Q. So I feel like either Tiffany or Q feels, one of them is going to end up going far. And then the audience gets season 49 male, Stephanie and coach.

You didn't name your team, though, Rob. I'd say Mike White in 46. Boy, yeah. This is the two people that are going to be on the White Lotus season four. But will they get speaking lines? I'm sorry, that would be. Okay. We'll see.

All right. Mike White will be obsessed with Q. Like Mike White has some pretty good inspiration, I think, for the future of writing about ridiculous people. So I could see something there. Just for the story. line. I feel like he could keep you around. Season 4 White Lotus is going to be lit. Okay. Yeah, it's going to be all about you.

It's going to be more like a documentary. Three hours of drafting for the winner in the books here tonight. I can tell you that coming to the patron feed later this week, we have a real treat for you that we let Brandon Donlin take over and he had a bunch of his survivor friends come down, go down the basement and record the first boot draft featuring some of Brandon had his friends over, and they did a first boot draft. We're going to drop that in the patron feed later on this week. They're drafting for who will be voted out first from Survivor 50.

So check that out later on this week. All right. Or a week from tonight. Okay. Great job on the draft, everybody. There was a lot to get to tonight. We kept it moving. I'm really proud of us.

Okay. Leanna, what's coming up for you? We and I are continuing our conference. doppel dominance, I guess. Bill! Break on. Tomato, tomato, tomato. We did do a little bit of a preview for the Survivor 50 cast.

So if you're looking for more Survivor 50 coverage, check out the latest episode of the Pooia and Leanna Lounge, Puy and Leanna.com. Or we're on the YouTube channel. Just search Pooia. Okay. And Pooia. Aside from what the amazing Leanna just said, check out the lounge. I'm talking 90-day fiancé every week, which has been. very fun. There's a brand new side 90-day spinoff happening. That's like a mix of Love Island and Bachelor

and Paradise meets 90-day. And it is a mess. So check that out. Please, me and Annabelle talked about the first episode that podcast should have gone live today. So you can find that. And I'm still streaming every day to commemorate five years of streaming and to complete every promise that I've not kept in my streaming career. Just a day 14 today. So two more weeks to go, Twitch.tv.com. Check me out. Okay. Chappelle, what's coming up for you? Well, Sasha and I just finished recording our seasonal review of sneaky links dating after dark on Netflix. And it was a great time.

So check that out on the Nothing But Netflix podcast. And then, of course, over on Recap Kickback, I am creeping up on 2,000 YouTube subscribers. And so please go subscribe. Recapkickback.com slash subscribe to go subscribe to the podcast. But then, of course, the YouTube page, YouTube.com slash at Recap Kickback, help me get to 2000. Okay. Taryn, the calendar has turned to June. You're getting close to full-on activation for the summer.

Get loose, Tauron. Get loose. Well, in the meantime, you can find, I'm doing some new content over on my YouTube channel where I'm reacting to episodes live showing the episode and watching the genius over there. We're doing the Big Brother retrospectives leading up to the Big Brother season. And also, if this is releasing to the general public in the future, then go check out the thing that I've been talking about lately that is really fun and do that.

Because I can't say it right now, but in the future you'll know what it is. So thank you. Karen is collaborating with Risgod. Is that what I'm picking up? You'll just have to wait and see and or have already seen because you're watching this in the future.

Yeah. All right. Asia. Of course, we mentioned the Pride's spoken. Check it out. Yes, had a great time. Yeah, I was shocked when Grace kicked it off and was like, this is our first episode. I was like, whoa. I just, you know, I didn't assume that I was the first episode, but I was honored.

So love what Grace, Matt, and Evie are doing on the Price Book. And so make sure you go listen to that. And there's five weeks of episodes coming up. So don't just listen to mine. Listen to all of them. And also, Jason Reed and I are in the offseason. I've married at first site. We have an Instagram now.

So go follow us on Instagram at a perfect match podcast to see what we're up to. Okay. Great job tonight, Asia. And Shannon, of course, you bring so much to the draft. It wouldn't be the same without you. What's coming up for you? Firstly, a couple of minutes ago I said that White Lotus season four would be a documentary about Q and I should have said documentary.

So I'm really rusty on my speaking cue. It was right there. It was right there. It was right there. I'm so sorry. And I can only apologize for everything. I talked about the cast fractions with Nick and Eden on Survivor Google. That was a really fun chat.

We had a lot of thoughts about the cast. We didn't really pull a lot of punches. So if you want some of hot, maybe not hot dates, but definitely some like opinions. We have them there. And then, yeah, AUV World will be coming up. Speaking of Q, I've got to start watching 60 episodes of Survivor Quebec. Not that he's in, it's just that starts with Q. And I'm getting into it now.

You got it. Yeah. So imagine if he was, though, that would be a ship of surprise. So yeah, there's going to be a lot of preseason content. So at Shannon Gates, we know global swive.com to make sure you're not missing AUV World with Surrey, who's on this season and that season. Hopefully it does not affect her exit press for AUV World. Okay. Great job tonight. Shannon, thank you so much to the patrons who checked out this podcast. Also in the patron feed, I think I went about like three and a half hours taking patron questions on Friday. I definitely check out that Q and A, Shannon from Friday.

That was a really good one. Also, today on the podcast, we dropped an episode with Sean and Evan from Drop Your Buffs. Stop by and we talked about their reactions to season 50. I talked a little bit also about my own saga with season 50 with those guys. If you want to check out that podcast, very fun conversation with them. And then on Monday, I'll be live with Chappelle for some bonus club condo and we'll hear Chappelle's snubs for season 50 coming up on Monday. So a lot to do still with season 50.

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