RHAP: We Know Survivor - Unlocked: Survivor 50 Ep 3 Patron Q&A

Episode Date: March 13, 2026

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Amazing. Have it all with BYU on Disney Plus. Here, everybody, what's going on? Sustinino here getting you ready for a patron feed drop every week. I do the patron Q&A and I once in a while like to share them here in the main feed so you know a little bit of what you're missing when you're not a patron of Rob is a podcast. I'm taking calls every week talking about Survivor 50. So enjoy this week's patron Q&A after episode three of Survivor 50. Hey everybody.

What's going on? Rob Sestrino back here. in the studio after a very busy trip to L.A. But we're back here on Friday for the patron Q&A. Excited to take the questions from the patrons. We are going to post this one unless it totally sucks, but I don't think that that's going to happen. We're going to post this one as an unlocked post over the weekend.

So everybody can check out what goes on here every Friday when we have a great talk with the patrons of Rob is a podcast. And we get into really a lot of times into the strategic weeds about what patrons are predicting is going to happen in the future here in Survivor 50 and can really talk about the game in a really fun format. And so I look forward to doing this every Friday here with the patrons. And so we had our big trip to L.A. of few things from my trip to L.A. just um i traveled on monday night to get out to l a on tuesday i was out at barns and nobles at the grove saw so many of our patrons there for a book a q&a that i hosted with stephen fishback and it was very nice where stephen fishback's family turned out they're also proud of their

best selling author son and got to see a bunch of people over there at barns and noble at the grove I was so happy to be back at the Grove. I love the Grove. And then we went over to our patron meetup on Tuesday night, which was jam-packed. And I tried to talk to as many people as I could there on Tuesday night. And then on Wednesday, very busy day. I had some meetings in the morning. But then we had our live show on Wednesday night, the Alex Theater.

And that's up on YouTube. I thought that that turned out really great. I thought they also really did a great job of capturing the event in the video quality. of that. And then on Thursday, it was a quick turnaround for me to go from late night Wednesday to I had to talk to Q on Pacific time. So my exit interview with Q was 8 a.m. Pacific time. So really quick turnaround to get my whole podcast set up. And then I had to like rush out the door because I had another meeting that I had to be at by 9.30 on Thursday morning. So it was a busy day in Los Angeles on Thursday, and then I took a red eye on Thursday night and flew from L.A. to Charlotte

and then had a 7 a.m. flight from Charlotte to Raleigh and then was back home by 9 this morning. Took a little breakfast, then a little quick nap, but ready to go. Feels surprisingly good. So excited about all that. We announced in Los Angeles as part of the show the pre-order bonus. I've been teasing for a while. They said, Rob, you can't say what the pre-order bonus is until a certain date. I said, why? They said, no, that's not how it works.

So, all right, fine. But now I can tell you, of course, the tribe and I have spoken is coming out May 5th. I've been saying to pre-order. And so now I can tell you that I have been working on a special bonus digital chapter for everybody who pre-orders the book. It's called the ultimate. Survivor rights of passage. My tribute to 751 survivor players, something for everyone. For all 751 players, I'll give my right.

I didn't get to give the rights of passage in Survivor the Amazon, but now I get to give everyone their flowers as I give you a special digital chapter of the tribe and I have spoken for pre-order. Even if you pre-ordered already, you still get the chapter. Plus, everybody who pre-orders is going to be entered into a bonus raffle. Sam has been getting every single survivor that we have met this spring to sign one copy of the tribe and I have spoken. And so the first prize winner will receive that autographed copy of the book, probably 50-some-odd survivor signing where they are mentioned in the tribe and I have spoken. So I was really excited for everybody to see everything that's going on here.

I think that we were trying to show people in Los Angeles. Wait, what is the book? Is it a picture book? No, no, it's it. There's essays and then there are also illustrations. Here's ghost face is snuffing my torch. Why is that happening? Well, we'll just find out in the book.

Okay. All right. There you go. All right. And then Sam has also wanted me to tell you next week, the patron Q&A is going to be at 1 p.m. Eastern. I know we've sort of been bouncing around the times. Typically 3 o'clock is like the North Star for when we try to do this 3 p.m.

Eastern. But based off of sometimes last week I had my interview with Tara Lipinski. We have some other interviews that pop up on, hey, Friday is the only time that we can do this. So we're sort of moving this call around. But what I like about that is it gives other people a chance to call. And so try to, you know, it's not ever going to be perfect for everybody, but hopefully we have sometimes that work better than others. All right.

Let's talk to Derek. Derek has been really heading up the patron festivities in Los Angeles this week. Derek, how are you? I am, you know, a little tired, but I get, I'm fueled by being an extrovert and community and people. So I had a great week. I'm a little sunburned, a little exhausted, but overall, feeling quite good. Yeah. Okay. So any announcements that you want to tell people for the patrons?

A couple quick announcements. Yes. So we have two Patreon exclusive podcast coming this weekend. Brandon and Sam and I just finished recording a little behind the scenes podcast of the LA event. So that'll be coming tomorrow. That's always fun. And then yeah, yeah, we had a good chat. And then on Sunday, we'll be dropping a new patron pulse episode. And we did something a little different for this one to sort of like wrap up the LA week before we've done. interviews with patrons after the fact. This time I brought a microphone with me to all of the patron meetups. And we did on the street interviews with patrons. So I got to meet a lot of new people,

talk to some, you know, returning patrons, first time, you know, event goers. And it was really fun. And we have some fun stories. You get a little behind the scenes of like, how did Parvity get her concussion? And, yeah. So lots of fun stuff in there. So look forward to that on Sunday.

And then otherwise, you know, Atlanta, Toronto are coming up. So if you are trying to go to... She got a concussion? Okay, I was being a little dramatic. Okay. Because that starts to get sounding a little litigious. Okay.

When we're talking about that, she got a concussion at the event. Yeah, okay. Apologies. I was being dramatic. She got hit in the head. She did get a little bonk in the head. Okay, we'll just say that. Yeah.

Yeah. But yeah, so, yeah, if you're coming to one of the other live shows, just make sure to get involved in those discords, because it's a great way to meet people before the events, you know, do carpool sharing and get involved in community meetups. Okay. All right. Those are the big announcements.

Thanks. Yes. I have a question, but I'm not going to ask it. I'm going to see if one of the patrons asked it at first. But if no one asks it and there's time at the end, I may pop it. It's a survivor question. It's related to this week's episode, but I don't want to, I don't want to step on anyone's toes if they're already coming in with it.

Okay. But it's a, it's a question. it's not like... It's a question related to the vote. I mean, go ahead. You've teased people. Well, okay, so I also haven't listened to like, you know, I didn't finish the Omer and Marianne pod.

So I don't know if it was already discussed. But I heard people talking about like, oh, wow, why would Emily vote with Stephanie and Ozzy when they're just going to tie it three to three? But on the revote, wouldn't it be three to two? Because... Yeah, so actually Q talked about this in his... In his...

I think this was actually a feature of Q's plan, not a bug from what Q's... said was that he needed them to like if it was a three three tie on the revote, Angelina as the, if Angelina and Q are tied, that's why Q was trying to get the votes on to him. If Q and Angelina are tied, then they on the revote. Now, Ozzie, Emily, and Stephanie all still vote again. Yet only Mike and Christian are voting from the David versus Goliath three.

So Q had some. you know, next level stuff going on. It was great. I had queued up the, the Q, uh, the Q, uh, pod, but I hadn't got to listen to it yet. So, all right, there we go. Yeah.

Okay. Thank you. I have fun. Okay. We'll see. All right. Bye. Let's go to Mitchell.

Mitchell. How are you? Hello. I'm great. Yes. Mitchell, what's new? Um, nothing really. Just, uh, continuing to work. Um, and playing bottom o'clock tower.

But I really wanted to come on on. today specifically because it this week it was the blindfold challenge yes okay and i have lived experience with that okay so so mitchell i don't want to misrepresent uh you that you are seeing impaired yeah yeah so i'm i'm totally blind i have no vision whatsoever i think i have a little bit of sight but it more turns into i don't like going to the dentist because when they shine a light in my face, I sneeze. That's interesting. But other than that, really, it's, I have no vision at all.

So it's always interesting. Just listening to the episode and watching how people actually go about navigating through all the different obstacles. Yeah. Mitchell, can you tell us that, so do you like when they do the blindfold challenge or do you dislike the blindfold challenge? I like it personally. it's it's extremely funny to me like yes now they get to bump into stuff now they know my pain um but i think

something i'm really curious about in terms of and this is something maybe just because i can't haven't you know i don't see exactly how the challenges are set up but i feel like something that they could like do to potentially like do better in the challenge as a team is sort of like have an idea of where the stations themselves are and kind of use landmarks those all the random stuff in the middle of the in the middle of the actual um as landmarks because that's something that we're taught basically is just if we have a landmark we can use it and then we can find our way back it's actually kind of similarly to how i think it was i was i forget who um i think it was someone was coming back to camilla

and someone was saying like, I got it and you don't need to guide us back because they were getting closer and they could hear where the caller was. But something I think that's really interesting or just a tip for any future players who may be listening to this. If you don't want to like get head trauma,

my suggestion is basically to, there's a stance called Bumper's Up basically. You have your, I'm right-handed. So I have my right-hand pointed to my left directly in front of my face. And then I have my left hand pointed to the right in front of my chest.

So basically what that does is it kind of acts as a barrier, a buffer between you and whatever you bump yourself into. Yeah, that's certainly like these are all great tips. I don't know if the players get to see the course beforehand. I did the Blindfold Challenge. It was the second challenge we did in Survivor, the Amazon.

But my recollection is I don't remember that we were looking at the course before we did it. And it was just like a bunch of big planks that were sort of just like in the forest that we were navigating. It wasn't as much of a like manicured course. My issue with the Blindfold Challenge is that it seems like that they are looking at. looking for people to get hurt. That's what I don't like about it. No, I think, and I think that's fair.

I definitely think, I mean, especially with like Rizzo and, and Colby getting like hit extremely, um, hard when, like, bumping into things. I definitely think it's, I feel like it's one of those things where it's like, yeah, but like, unfortunately, but then we also like don't have as many like physical, physical challenges like we do on like Australian Survivor. So I feel like this is kind of the closest thing to that maybe in a weird way.

I do feel like that in theory, like where it started, I do think that there is something that's interesting about of which group can communicate best in terms of, okay, how well do you listen to each other? How well can you follow directions and be a cohesive unit? I think that that is actually an interesting part of the blindfold challenge. What I don't like is that it has evolved into how dangerous can we make it. How heavy can we make these puzzle pieces or how much can we make it where that there are obstacles that the players will hurt themselves as opposed to just like, okay, get back to us. It's now like, how do we make sure somebody gets hit in the groin or hits their head on a log or get side swiped by a plank when somebody makes.

makes a 90 degree turn. Right. 100%. I think it's honestly, that is definitely, that makes a lot of sense from, I do think that that is a very, very fair argument for that.

And I think probably the, I mean, I feel like it's honestly kind of make in similar forms to like, something like how you had to build the thing with your feet. Yeah. Like only your feet. Something kind of similar to that,

except you just like, you don't need to like hurt yourself. Yeah. They don't have like also a mouse trap also amongst the puzzle pieces. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense.

It's just and it's interesting just with and listening to all the different people. Like it's so interesting. They're different communication styles. Yeah. What did you pick up on in terms of how Christian versus Camilla versus Chrissy did their calling style? I think the. the issue that, and I may have misheard some of Christians stuff during like the puzzle portion,

but I think that there is a serious disconnect sometimes when you refer to something as your side. I think Camilla probably, I mean, Camilla did the best general like organization of like put this in the bottom right corner. It was it was absolute not relative and relative can cause. problems, I think. Yeah, that's interesting. I really thought Christian was going to be very good at this, because I feel like that in Christian's work, a lot of what he does is, you know, he builds these robots and teaches them to walk. And there's a lot of instructions, like take seven steps and pick a thing up. But, you know, in practice, that's different than working with humans. Yeah. And, yeah, it's just, I'm just loving this season so far. The Survivor 50 theme was so good.

and I love the musical references as well. Yeah. It's been very, very fun. And yeah, thank you, Mitchell. This was great perspective on the Blindfold Challenge. Yeah, thank you. Thank you for having me. Okay.

All right. Talk to you soon. Bye. Bye. Bye. Okay. All right. Let's say hi to.

Let's try Nathan B. Nathan. Nathan. Okay. Is that audio better? Oh, so good, Nathan. Okay. Perfect.

How's everything going with you, Rob? everything is going pretty well right now. I feel very good. I normally I don't sleep on the plane. I was so exhausted. And I think I just like slept for two or three hours on the plane. And even I came home and then I thought I would just do like a cat nap. And then I slept a couple of hours on after I ate breakfast this morning.

So yeah, not doing terribly. We love that. Well, I wanted to start off by giving you flowers on some previous podcast. Finally. Finally. Thank you, Nathan. I was so excited to wake up one day and see that you had done a podcast with watcho Crapins. Yes. One of my favorites as a bravo-holic as well as Survivor fanatic. So getting to see that, I kind of thought that I was like reading it wrong. I was like, is he really on this podcast? And I had no idea. Y'all like went back that far either. Yeah. So from the early days, I certainly remember running into Ben a lot like in the early days when I used to live in Los Angeles. But Ronnie is hilarious. Ronnie is really, really funny. So it was a very fun podcast to do.

So hopefully we'll do some more collaborations. But those guys are doing great. Yeah, it was hilarious. I mean, all of the different like Bravo slash Survivor interactions have been amazing this season. You know, like the 2T's podcast, like they are doing Survivor recaps now with Wells and Dolores. And they had Richard Hatch on. Stephen was just on. I was like, it's insane how many.

Haven't called me. Yeah. Though I was actually just about to ask, like, is that that needs to be in the works. If not, I'm hoping that me saying this will, you know, get their wheels turning. Yeah. I mean, that would be cool. But I have not, I have not heard from their people yet. Well, hopefully this will get them to reach out to you.

But then, of course, also the live podcasts besides Parvety's, you know, terrible concussion. Or sorry, just not concussion. Injury. Yes. Just got me even more excited for the Atlanta event and everything. So I'm so excited for that. Are you going to be? Oh, go ahead.

So, yeah, that I could tell you that. So the Atlanta thing is that's really Ron Clark's show. I think that he was going to, and I've never been there, but I think that what he does is he talks a lot during the commercials. And so I think that from what I understand, I think that I will be helping him moderate some things during the commercials, but we're not going to do a specific. Rob has a podcast show.

What my vision is for that is that I am going to have a setup. where I'm going to be doing like some sit down interviews. I'm like, oh, let's grab this person and then I'll do like 10 minutes with this person. And then, okay, oh, this person is here. Let me sit down with them for 10 minutes. And so like it's kind of like what I used to do when I used to go to the reality rally where I think what we'll do is I'll have like a podcast that will be like two hours of here's me talking to, you know, 15 different survivors who were there.

Yeah. Well, it's good. It's such a crazy vibe when you walk in there. Like, I've only been once. I went last year and it was so much fun. And I'm so excited. I'm very happy to talk. Yeah. I hear Ron pulls out all the stops. That's actually April 1st. Definitely does. Yes. So excited. I've made sure to actually like at least kind of tell work that I'm going to be a little bit later the next day.

Because last year I was struggling a little bit because I didn't realize we were staying out later and doing nonsense in the gymnasium and stuff like that. But to Survivors. So one of my favorite things about 50 has just been the fact that it's gotten so many people. that have been turned off of it a little bit, like back to kind of check it out. And so hopefully I think we all are expecting that that might return, bring back more returning seasons. And I just want to know from your perspective, is there a certain format as in like fans versus favorites, blood versus water,

is there anyone that you particularly like to see? I think fans versus favorites, like that you think he would do because I know Jeff doesn't love all of him. Yeah, I think fans versus favorites would be interesting because I think that the fans that they got now would be very much capable of playing on the level with the, returning players, especially if they bring back returning players who aren't necessarily the greatest gamers, you know, people that are sort of big characters who might not get along with one another.

I think that that could be a very fun format. But I just hope that they take away the things that we're really loving from this season and the world building that they've done and the character development that they've done. And I just, to me, as an outsider, I feel like that they take. a lot more pride in when it's like, look at these new people we found. Look at this. Like, we just like, we're geniuses because we found Carolyn. We found Q as opposed to then they don't feel like that they're geniuses when they

bring back the Q or the Carolyn. Definitely. I feel like fans versus favorites is a perfect way to like integrate both of those things and make everyone be. And I mean, it gave us Micronesia and all those different things. So I'm told to wrap up. But thanks so much for talking with me. and I'm so excited to see you in Atlanta.

Thanks, Nathan. See you in a couple of weeks. Bye. All right, let's go to Jared. How about now? Yes, Jared, yes. Amazing. So great.

So thank you for having me on. I was watching the beginning of the live show. It looked amazing. So sorry to see Parvety got a concussion. That's awful. I'm so hard. I think Parvity, I believe it was just a very minor. small, I think it was like even like a paper cut

from what I understand. Okay. Because everyone in the same otherwise, but I'll hear a word on that. Yeah, I think it was just like the lowest level of a paper cut. I think that there wasn't even she tried to show, she was like showing me where it was like I don't even see anything. Got it, got it. Well, I'm going to use the beginning of my time as I usually do to self-promote a little bit. Sure. Last night was the first episode of our new season of Out Laf. We were calling it Outlaw Madhouse at the Asylum. We had our guests, Billy Garcia and Denise Martin. Wow. Yeah, it was a lot of fun. They would judge the challenges,

and we had our first two people voted out. And since we're doing an edge of extinction style theme this year, they were actually sent to the Madhouse. That's how it worked last night. And our season runs through May 7th. So if you know anyone in town, Thursday, May 7th, who might be looking to do stops on a book tour, let me know. you know, we might have room for a guest there. What's the timing on that? Eight o'clock on Thursdays. Yeah.

And, you know, they got, they got a set up. So if you want to sell here, sell books, it's a, it's a, I know. I have an event on Thursday in New York. I don't know what the timing is going to be yet. All right. Well, we'll take that off there and chat about that later. But I wanted to ask you, you know, in the realm of the comedy, what did you think was the funniest part of this most recent episode?

You know, personally, I thought it was so funny when Christian asks Emily, who did you tell? And she was just like them, everybody, you know, that kind of really got a good response. That was really good. The thing that got the biggest response in the room was the Charlie and Risgod moment where I was really surprised that the room exploded when that happened. So people really like that. To me, you had Jeff rapping, which is funny for a variety of reasons. And then you also had where at tribal council

Christian then was yes anding Mike White as an improviser you would know. And Jeff was like how about we don't interrupt Mike White? He said yeah, anytime you could help the greatest storyteller of our

generation finish his thought, you gotta do it, right? Why not? You got to. Yeah, no, if you got a chance to play with one of the greats, you got to play with one of the greats, right? Impro play, play the back and forth. Yeah, no, I thought overall, a great episode, excited to finish the rest of the live show. And I'm excited to see the live show when you guys are in New York. I got my tickets already. And it's like to see you.

And thank you for all the stuff you do for the community and continue killing it out there. Thanks, Jared. Okay, talk to you later. And then watch up for an Ethan Zon podcast coming on Monday. Yes, so I've heard. All right. Take care. Bye. All right. All right. All right. Let's say hi to Ben G. Ben, how are you? Hey, doing great. Other than Q going home, everything has been fantastic. Can you hear me okay? Yeah, I hear you great. Okay, great. Yeah, my head was spinning more than poverty and her not concussion regarding you going home.

but I have a strategic question for you regarding Christian. I love Christian, but I thought this was a bad episode for him. Oh my God. Not, yes, in pretty much every decision that he made throughout the episode. So not just the, yeah, absolutely. So beginning of the episode, they come to the conclusion. They have to tell Surrey about the idol and Emily as well. But what I really don't like in Survivor is half-truths to very competent players.

And I don't think Surrey was picking up on this lack of truth that they switched around the whole Rick to Christian idea. But the game that Christian gets out of changing the story to make it Rick, I think is not worth the potential down. of if Surrey is catching on to this lie. Is this important to you or you think this is not a big aspect of it? I didn't really think about that part. I thought that that was fine, especially because Rick also seemed like that he was on board with this. So I thought it was kind of a minor thing.

I think that the ultimate reaction from Surrey is that they picked the right person to send it to that was going to make Surrey happy, where when they tell her that we sent the idol to Aubrey. Sir is like, oh, great. So you guys don't have the idol, but my ally Aubrey does. Okay, all right. This is fine. This is great.

I love this. I'm so happy. So I think that she was just so happy by the outcome where if they sent it to somebody that Surrey maybe was not super happy with it, I'm trying to think of who that person might be on one of the other tribes where, you know, like, oh, we sent the idol to Jonathan. and then seriously like, wait, so you guys had the idol and then you did just tell me now and you sent it to Jonathan and wait, what happened? But I think that she was just like so ecstatic. They sent it to a person that she already has a familiarity with.

So it's an interesting point where you make about the minor, like, lie of omission. And we saw how that, you know, played out a little bit more with Emily flipping on the mat. Yes. And I agree. I just don't like people putting them in a position where they lie for no reason. I either think you keep it a secret fully and protect yourself from having to constantly put on this actor's face or tell them the whole truth. And I think Ceri would have been just as fine with the real truth. Yeah.

The other aspect of Christians gain this episode that I didn't fully agree with was then as soon as he gets to his new tribe, obviously he doesn't. go to Emily right away. We don't see everything. But he just fully locks in with the David versus Goliath crew. This seems like that is not going to be great for him long term. Does he really want to stick around this David and Goliath group? So I think he wanted to make sure that he got through this vote. It was interesting that he ends up going and jumping in with them so soon. I guess that did he not feel like he had

a great relationship with Ozzy? I'm just trying to think of what it would look like. If maybe he wasn't feeling great vibes from Stephanie. So could he vote with Ozzy, Q, Emily, and Stephanie against

Mike or Angelina? I guess he could have. I think that Christian felt like that the vibes with them were sort of neutral. So why not work with them at the moment, but I don't know if he's necessarily locked in with them either. I agree with what you're saying. I think it is still risky at the same time to go on potentially, you know, multiple votes

locked in with David versus Goliath. And then if they ever switch tribes again or to go to the merge, everybody's now seen them vote together and they're going to be even more scared of this trio. And I think Christian would be the biggest threat of this trio coming out. of this situation. But hopefully it worked out for him. And maybe he's thinking, okay, well, let me use them for now and then see where it goes. While we have some numbers, we only have to add one other person to our group.

But he might also feel like that if he takes a shot at one of them, does Angelina or Mike White then come after him with a vengeance, then really trying to go hard after him and then trying to like turn this group against them. He has been about the clean vote all three episodes now. So I guess the trend continues. And we've had a clean vote every single vote. Every time. He's had his way.

He's got his clean vote. He's always going to have a clean vote. Okay. All right. Then thank you so much. Okay. Take care. Bye.

Bye. Clean vote, but not so clean shorts. That's Christian's plan in Survivor 50. All right. Let's say hello to Tommy Guam. Tommy. How you doing, Rob? Yeah, surprisingly well, I have to say. Yeah, you look good from coming back from a live set. Not bad, right? I mean, better than some of these. Certainly, like, when I wasn't feeling well a couple of weeks ago, I'm doing a lot better now, then I was, even though I did a cross-country flight a couple hours ago. Yeah, after that New York show, you had a rough recovery. I remember that.

Tom you know what Nicole says she's like because you're getting old I think I'm fine I think that they keep coming out with like new sicknesses I think the sicknesses are getting more intense how about that exactly what it is yeah what's what do they have it it's like oh you have what's it like half COVID half flu yeah I don't know what they call that fluid I don't know fluid fluid fluid flovid I don't want that trying to help yeah We don't want any of that noise. No, no. So just I got a lot of stuff to run through real fast.

You know, I like to bang stuff out. First of all, how did you pull sheer on the podcast? So my co-writer for the tribe and I have spoken, Alex, believe that that's where the relationship came from. Alex is a comedy writer And so he has a lot of relationships And so he, I believe, has a huge network Of people that he knows

And Paul Shear is a big Survivor fan And wants to talk about Survivor 50 That's very excited I can't wait to hear that So I hope it goes good Is that gonna be a live podcast Or pre-recorded that? I think we'll probably record it an hour or two

Before it goes up In just in case we need to edit anything Yeah, no problem Anybody get in touch with Dr. Ameri? to check on some concussion protocols for Colby and possibly COVID. No, no, no. We don't need to bother Dr. Amanda. No, no.

I'm in COVID. He couldn't even stand. That was crazy, though. Like, you got, yeah. I thought they would stop the challenge maybe for that, you know? Like, not he kept going. Yeah, he seemed like he was seeing stars. Oh, without a doubt, he had his bell wrong.

Yeah. So, I mean, that was a little scary for a second, you know? But I'm glad he seemed to be recovered. All right. So that was good. Again, I got a question for maybe you can help. because I only watch episode once. I didn't get a chance to watch it again.

So they, the tribe, the swap tribes now. Who's on the beach that has the idle clue left? Do we know? Oh, I believe it's the blue tribe, which I think was,

I think that was it, um, who is on the, the blue tribe now? I was trying to, I couldn't remember. Yeah, the chat will know.

Which group is on the, um, the blue tribe? They'll, they'll, they'll, They'll know. But I'm surprised nobody's like, it has to be out by now because there's a lot of people

have information about these idols now. So I figure it's got to be almost going to be a free for all next week. Yeah, but what they don't know is if somebody already found the idol on that beach. That's true. That's true. That's why I was wondering if like if there is like an, I don't think, I don't think any like Christian or Devons or Genevieve is on that beach, right? That would be the people to look for it.

Yeah. Okay. So, yeah, so, okay. So I guess that coach. And Chrissy and Jonathan, they stayed on that tribe. Right. Genevieve. It looks like it's Jonathan's not on that.

It's coach Colby, Joe, Genevieve, Tiffany, Aubrey, and Chrissy. So, Coach. Yeah. Coach Tiffany. We'd get on that, right? I mean. You would think so, but she also doesn't know if somebody already found it here. Yeah.

So it was, coach was on this original tribe. So was Tiffany and so was Chrissy. Yeah. All right. I'm just, I was just curious how that's going to work out later on. and who they would send it to it. If like, say, Genevieve does find another idol, like, you know, the clue. That would be kind of interesting who she would send it to.

Now, Aubrey knows that there are the Billy Elish idols, but doesn't know if it's been found. Yeah. And then now, like, does, does Ozzie know that it's a boomerang island? I'm just so confused about that, too. I don't think so. Oh, does, does Ozzie know that from, yeah, I think Q told Ozzie about the idea. Yeah, but we never still really to hold day and work out with that either. There's a lot of, there's a lot of working pieces going on.

Yeah, I don't know if it came out in the episode. episode that Q told Ozzy that, and if you get voted out, we get, Genevieve gets the idol back. I think he left that part out. Yeah. All right. I'm getting the one minute and one. So I'm just going to run through a lot of things real fast.

I really like to watch what's crap in his podcast. My wife has been a watcher's crap and his fans forever. So that was really good. We got to watch that together. Great. The Surrey Rick Ozzie, they know how Benji was just saying. I think, I think, I think Christian Rick had a lie to her just to keep him from knowing that they, to read him from knowing that they made a decision as a duel before to even.

and let her know, you know? So I think that's really why they had a lie to her. They could, because they sent it to Aubrey and Christian has no connection to Aubrey, so it was the best for Rick to make that decision by himself to insurice eyes. Yeah. That's all. I just think that was good. I'm wondering what they're going to do with the merge now with the tribes that are going to start

going to two or one, you know, they're going, I mean, who's going to be going to tribal councils now? Like, we've got to get started many people. You would think so, but I don't know. They don't seem to be in a rush. Maybe they feel like, hey, let's keep. people for as far as we can. And then maybe we'll just do a lot of like double tribal councils later on in the season.

I think that that's sort of like been what big brother has done a little bit more, which I actually like in terms of let's keep the people like the game is interesting. Let's keep as many people around for as long as possible. And then maybe do we start getting like episodes in like the back half of the season where I think that we thought maybe we'll do a lot. lot of double tribal's premurge. But it seems like that there may be, we might get episodes in the post merge that are, you know, 90 minute episodes and basically challenge, you know, challenge strategy tribal

council, then, you know, double two tribal council episodes later on in the season. Yeah. Yeah, I hope so. I hope I get like the Cook Island, Cook Island twist. Oh, you know, you just voted somebody out, vote somebody else out now, something like that. I hope we don't get that. I'll be hysterical this season, I think. It was such chaos.

I think it would be great. I love Emily Flippin being so messy. Charlie just one quick game. Sorry, Derek. We're listening to the pot of spoken today. And Hunter said he voted for Charlie because Charlie played the best game, but he was actually closer to Kenzie. So that would have worked that reverse for Charlie if he wanted to go his way with that.

That was just interested in Hunter said that. Yeah. That's about it. I'm looking forward to all the podcasts this week, Rob. You have a great weekend. Thanks, Tommy. Okay. Got to keep the timely.

Thank you. Have a good. How are you feeling? I'm feeling good. Yeah. Back to work. Working tomorrow over time, so it's good. Oh, nice, Tommy.

Yeah. Yeah. Get a little money in the pocket. All right. All right. All right. All right. Let's say hi to Katie.

Hi, Katie. How are you? Hey, Rob. Can you hear me? Yeah, I hear you great. What's going on? Awesome. This is my first time calling.

I'm a huge fan. Katie, welcome. Where are you calling from? I live in Toronto. Okay. All right. Are you coming to see us in April? Yes, I'll be there.

Okay, I will be two. Awesome. So what's going on, Katie? I had two production takes and theories about the first episode. I didn't get to call in. And then I have one thing to say about Billy Eilish. So my first thing to mention, I had one theory about the journey that they went on in the first episode.

And you know how they had those polls that Ozzy was like trying to get the key off? My theory was like, those poles were not long enough to reach. the key. And I think maybe production wanted them to team up, like potentially for two people to work together and then create like a very long pole in order to reach the key. That's interesting. I think that that might be, you might be on to something because I think that the challenge that we saw in the, there was a journey in episode two or three of season 49, where there was the guy who was the baggage handler and then also Jake the snake and George. wan all went together.

And there was a game that was just like throw coconuts in everybody's basket. And it seemed like in that game they kind of wanted two people to team up on one person. Right. So yeah, just had that thought. And it didn't happen there. And my, yeah, it didn't happen. It didn't happen. My second theory was about why Mike White just got,

um, told to go back. Yeah, like immediate. Oh, not ripped. Also that. Um, but he was told to go back like as soon as he came. to the island. And my theory for that was that they didn't want people to be able to meta the journeys. Like people come back and they say, oh, I got nothing. And everyone knows that's not true. So I think they just wanted to have like it happened one time. So like the players could possibly

think that did happen. Yeah, maybe I think it also could be that it's hard to come up with like a three person game that everybody plays by themselves. And maybe they, the game that they designed was a two person game and so they couldn't figure out what to do with the third person there. So hard to say, too bad there's no on-fire podcast where we could get the answers to this. Yeah. We just have to speculate on unofficial podcasts. You should become the official podcast now that there's no on fire, at least for this season. They should give you the title.

Listen, maybe we're the unofficial official podcast now. That's pretty good. Okay, and then my last thing to say was that I'm a huge Billy Elish fan. I'm probably like a rare crossover of huge Billy Elish and huge Survivor fan. So I personally love the Billy Ilish Boomeran Idol. Katie, are the Billy Elish stands pumped up about the Billy Elish Boomerang Idol? Those who watch Survivor definitely are. And there's probably not too many of us.

Those who don't watch Survivor don't know about it. But what do you think is going on here? Does Billy Eilish, does she seem aware that this happened? I think that she will eventually come out and say something. But I wanted to ask you if you knew that she actually mentioned Survivor in one of her songs. Is the song Boomerang? No. Oh, okay.

So this is news to me. I thought that the song that she mentioned Survivor was Boomerang. No, she does not have a song named Boomerang. So the word boomerang has nothing to do with Billy Eilish. No. No. Not that I know. This is news to me.

I thought this was like a big hit of Billy Elish's. And, you know, like, I thought this would be like the, it's the Taylor Swift, shake it off, Idle. Like, I just thought that Boomerang had something to do with Billy Eilish. No, I think it's just the elimination. I was today years old when I found this out. So they had a thing already called the Boomerang Idol. And then they just slapped Billy Elish's name. on it. I think so. But do you know that she has a song that she mentions Survivor? I did know that.

And a song that's in the Barbie movie. Oh yeah. Also that one. But I just, I love her lyrics in the song that she mentioned Survivor. Yes. I'll put on Survivor just to watch somebody suffer. Yes. I just think that's so funny. Then she probably voted for them to not get supplies. I had an idea for a fan cam. I wanted to see Charlie in this episode when Rizzo is telling him that he didn't vote for his best friend. And then I want to be like a slow motion montage of Charlie with what am I made for? That's, I'd like to see that. That would be a good, very dramatic edit. That would be good.

And he's like thinking about Maria didn't vote for him and that he didn't win. Okay. All right. Katie, thank you so much. And my theory on Billy Elish is I think Billy Elish's people agreed to this and Billy Isles, she's like, I'm not doing that. Yeah, where's my Elizabeth? I think she's a big fan.

She's got to come out. She'll come out and say something. Okay. All right. You let us know when she says it. Okay. Thanks, Rob. All right.

All right. Then let me say hello to Tanner. Tanner, how are you? I'm doing very well, Rob. How are you? How are you holding up? Yeah, I'm very well.

Yeah? Yes. Trip wasn't too bad, huh? It was a great trip. I might be like hitting a wall later on tonight, but we'll see. Yeah, it's only a matter of time before you crash. I mean, I'm doing okay so far.

Yeah. Yeah, it's been a, it's pretty been busy week in news in my life. We got, we recently got a beer of dragon. Wow. Okay. How big? It's just a little one.

He'll probably get bigger. Did you name it after a survivor? We named him Rocky, but we did not name him after Rocky. Anthony! Yeah. Get Jeff Prox on the phone. Call Jeff Probst right now on the Jeff phone and say, hey, Jeff, we want to vote someone out. Good.

You got it. One of the few memorable moments from that season. Sure. Sure. Okay. All right, Tanner. What's on your? mind. I mean, I've been enjoying Survivor 50 so far like everyone else. You know, I try to go into

these seasons with low expectations because I don't want to be disappointed by any of it. But three episodes in, I'd say we're, I would say we're on the path of this being an all time season. Yeah. I mean, it's got to be good to start if you want it to be an all timer. But we'll see. It could be a great start and, you know, maybe slumps to the finish. But right now you'd like to start well. Yeah. Better to start well than to not start well. Yeah, exactly. It's the opposite of 49, where it kind of was a bit slow, but then it got better by the end. It was too hot.

Yeah. So I have a couple of questions. One of them is regarding Rizzo. I kind of said this in the YouTube chat last week when I wasn't calling in, but I kind of get the sense that Rizzo is getting a very similar edit to the edit that you got in AllStars, where you were kind of, you know, the, big, you know, the big man on campus in Amazon where you were driving the story and the strategy and then you'd go back for a second time. And it's almost like you were like the new kid in school that, you know, had to start off from scratch. And you tried to be the cool kid. And like, no one wanted to let you in. No one wanted to let you play. So, uh, yeah, is there, do you see merit

in that comparison? I've always related to the Riz God. And I've always felt like that he was a similar person, you know, and I didn't really think about it in that way until we got to season 50. And I was talking about this on one of the other podcasts where even him coming back with the, that he was like the smartest person who didn't win his season with coming back with the winner who was a young woman who is very celebrated for challenge wins and coming back with that person. And then are they working together? Are they not? he feels like that this is going to be his season. So overall, his story feels very familiar to me. And, you know, I hope he's able to find himself.

Honestly, I feel like that he has integrated himself better than I had even in Survivor All Stars. And I think that he has been around more people who seemingly who want to work with him. I actually felt like I got off to an okay start in Survivor All Stars. but I think as the days went on, I feel like people are like, we don't need this guy around. But I don't know if the story yet has been,

we don't want to, like he's too, we're scared of him. We don't want to work with him. They don't seem intimidated by the Riz God. And I will say that not that that was necessarily on the screen in Survivor All-Stars, but also I got branded too of like,

oh, he's lazy. Yeah. So not true. Rizzo got pain with the lazy brush and you did too. I thought that was unjust. Yeah. I thought it was very unjust.

Where Sustanino, he's probably on a coffee break. First of all, I love coffee. Okay. But second of all, that you could ding me on a lot of things. And maybe I'm not good at helping, but I'm a hard worker, my guy. Put me on the construction team. All right. Me, Jonathan, Aaron.

Mm-hmm. I'm ready. Yeah. My other question before I have to wrap up, one thing that popped up in Eric and Omar and Mary Ann's podcast, which they did a great job, by the way. One thing that came up is when it came to returning player seasons, some people tend to overcorrect.

And I want to get your take on overcorrection in returning player seasons. And in European, who do you think is guilty of overcorrecting in this season? So far? So far, yeah. Hmm. Who has been the biggest, over-correcter so far. I'm trying to think, I don't know if I necessarily have seen one person that I feel like

has been guilty of that. Who did they think was the over-correcter? I mean, for me at least, I think the biggest over-correcter this season so far is probably Charlie, because you see her, you see him like kind of getting the egg from Christy and then you see how his visceral reaction to Rizzo when he mentioned. that, oh, you know, I was best friends with Sophie B, but I didn't vote for her to win. So I'd say Charlie right now is probably the biggest. But I don't know if it necessarily has been.

So overcorrection means like, okay, that things you've gone too far the other way. And I think that Charlie, when he didn't want to work with Chrissy, I think it was like, hey, I like Chrissy. But if people are not feeling her, then I am going to not want to work with her. So I didn't think it was an overcorrection. It'll be interesting to see how the Rizzo stuff ultimately comes together from Charlie's perspective. Mm-hmm. And the chat in the prior Charles had mentioned Aubrey and Genevieve's conflict.

Yeah, but is Genevieve an over-correction or was it just a correction? I mean, is Genevieve overplaying? I don't think so. I think she's doing great. I think she's doing fine. I actually think she's in a better spot now than she was on Batu. And the fact that she has a coach still in there, you know, she has, she still has Colby, you know, coach and Christy are still pretty tight.

I just think that Aubrey and Tiffany are the two people there are the most vulnerable on their new tribe. Yeah, I agree. Okay. All right. Well, I got to wrap up before I get kicked off. And I'll definitely look forward to talking again soon, Rob. Okay.

Take care of Tanner. Bye. All right. Okay. All right. Let me go to Mel Hooker. Mel, what do you have today here to show us? Okay.

What is this? Is this a loom? What are you working on, Mel? Mel, do you know you're on? Are you, you're Christian? Is that what's going on? Are you Christian behind the hammock? But you're muted.

Mel's doing, I think Mel is doing a bit, but might be just a visual bit for people listening to the podcast. I wasn't even doing a bit. I just decided to do this and then it looked like, I looked like Christian. So I was like, I'm going to keep it. Whatever. God, that was like, that was epic cinema last week.

I'm scared to talk to Rob. I'm scared. Oh, I'm so happy. that we're on the subject of Charlie and Rizzo because, oh, my God. Also, like, can you see my rabbit? Just like, wait, where did he go? Oh, he's in it? Just kidding.

He's in his thing. He's like getting, he's so excited. He's like the happiest nib. He, like, lives in the living room now. And he does zoomies every time Jeff Probe screams at people to dig deep. Wow. And it's hilarious. Anyways, so Charlie Rizzo, right?

So I'm loving this feud. first of all. And, um, okay. I really feel, I want to know, do you think with the edit that Rizzo's getting so far that he has any, like, would you be buying Rizzo stock? I would not. Okay. Cool.

Me neither. Um, like, are you, can I just like, he's didn't, were people trying to say last time that he was a good social player, like, or was it just that he was so silly that everybody kept him around for a while? I don't know if people said he was a good social player I think maybe he says he's a good social player but I think that we were getting in the exit interviews that the jury was not really liking him but he does seem to

make a lot of friends where that we haven't seen anybody ever trying to be voting against him right it's just so interesting because like I guess he did try to vote for him but he does seem to like in his starting tribe

and people seem to not be threatened by him. I just feel like it was a huge blunder and like just so unselfaware to even like, okay. Sophie B said he had a great social game because he does Elmo impressions that are better than my Russell Hans' impressions. She really no sold my Russell Hans' impression

and was like, what is that? That's not as good as when Rizzo does Elmo. Yeah, I'm not her biggest fan. So whatever. We can move on from that. But the thing about Rizzo is like, okay, like I've met several survivors and said some stupid shit. Yeah. But I have never, except for the time that I told Jeremy, like, you know, to get out of the fucking way.

Except for that time, like, why would you ask someone like that with cameras rolling if you aren't, like, is he, is he just so bored that he's trolling? Why would he ask some, what was the question that he asked Charlie? He said, so I think I know the answer to this. but do you still talk to Maria? Or when's the last time you talk to Maria? So the problem is, and this is maybe where I could relate to Rizzo, where that he doesn't, he's a young guy. He doesn't really know these people outside of the game.

And so he's a little bit like in the, do you remember when they used to have like the Chris Farley show on SNL where it would be like Chris Farley would like interview like Paul McCartney and be like, hey, do you remember that time that you were in the Beatles? like that was awesome. Like he doesn't really have anything else to talk to Charlie about other than like oh do you still talk to Maria?

Like do you like what was it like when you did the grip strength? You know, I think that he just doesn't have like the life experience to have anything else to like, you know, talk to Charlie about. That makes a lot more sense because I was just like I really, I enjoy Rizzo.

I think he's great TV. I think watching him play. He's a perfect audience. surrogate. Like, you know, he's like, he is. Like he comes off. I really, because I, people, you tend to think I'm younger than I am because I get so excited and I talk really fast and like, I'm really passionate about things.

So like, I understand why people think, like, he does. He comes off. He's so pumped. He's so excited to be there. He comes off is way younger than he really is. Maybe we'll have like an age of attraction reveal on one podcast where the listeners can guess and then you have a reveal for us of what you're. Oh, what my age is?

Oh, my gosh. Also, I just, I'm like halfway through that show right now. I literally just paused it to put this. We were talking about it on the staff call before. And how they didn't have the reveal of what the ages. They're probably telling me to wrap up. By the way, check out Asia and Jason are recapping. That's why I'm watching it.

I was like, oh, they recap. I heard it's a crazy show and we've got a recap up of it. The other thing I wanted to say is like screw everything. everybody. I'm sorry, not sorry in the comments, like hating on John Lovett at the live show. Love the live show, production values A-plus. Amazing. It was great. And please, if next time you see Parvite, you should ask her, how's your head? And if she responds, I haven't had any complaints, then, like, the world is perfection. All right. Thank you, Mel.

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If you've fallen out of love with going to the movies, this one will bring you back. Ryan Gosling, in the first must-scene movie of 2026. Project Hail Mary, only theaters March 20th. Tang! Tang! How are you? What's going on? I'm great. Not much.

I drove back after playing clock hour at 3M. I lost with Derek, unfortunately. I threw the game at the end. Okay. You threw the game at the end? Yeah. Just I picked the wrong person with my demon power, and it caused us to lose the game. Okay.

Was anybody mad at you? Not really. They were very graceful. Like, I owned up to my flaw, like Christian. Yes, okay. He didn't need to. Tang, I want to know how is your tour going of going to all the live events? I am booked for Toronto.

I'm not bookful in New York yet, but I am going to be looking at it over the weekend, I think. Yeah, okay. Well, Tang, what's on your mind? Yeah, so I want to talk about, I think, like, narratives and edits, kind of just, Like, I think Christian in his preseason talked about wanting to control the narrative because he didn't have that in David versus Goliath. And I do think he has very strong narrative control

and it's kind of why he like stepped over Mike in that confessional because he's trying to avoid Mike like taking over the narrative like he did in David versus Goliath. Yeah, I don't know if it's that deep at tribal council. I think that Christian is also like, Jeff, in the past, Christian, give us an analogy.

I think this is kind of what Christian does also. That's a lot of yes ending to that. But that's what makes me wonder if there is anything where they're like, we'll be allies, but who's the main narrator and storyteller? I would say that for Christian, maybe like somebody else, like maybe I'm trying to think of another, like maybe Genevieve wouldn't jump in and would let Mike White finish his thought. But Christian's known Mike White for what, eight years, something like that, seven years. So to Christian, Mike White is not like the beyond reproach creator of the White Lotus.

He's like, yeah, that's Mike. I played on Survivor with him and we've had a friendly relationship for all these years. So I think that in the new era, especially, and for even before that into the 30s, there's a lot of tribal council is like this. tribal council's like, oh, no, actually, no, it's like this. And Jeff has never been like, uh, excuse me. Kelly Wentworth is speaking. We let her finish her thought. But for Mike White, it was like, how dare you, Christian?

How dare you? One of the greatest analogy makers ever at tribal council could pile on what Mike White is saying. That's very fair. But I don't think it was Christian was like trying to wrestle the narrative back from Mike. I don't think he was explicitly trying to do it. I do think there's a tiny shade.

Like not like that's not his 100% attention. I have to watch it again. I will, I'm open to the theory, but I just think it was just like that, you know, Christian, I think is a natural like,

like, hey, we're, we're making analogies of tribal council. Oh yeah. I mean, he's one of the best narratives on the show, even with Mike on the same seasons, on both. I mean, I can think back to a couple,

even in his original season where he said like Christian, what is this like? And he's like it's like when you have like an old car and you're trying to start the car and you turn the key and it goes is it going to turn over? So if Christian

does this at tribal council. He does. He does for sure. I think I didn't want to talk one thing that I heard in a lot of podcasts on my drive back home was that like people people are saying that they thought Genevieve came out too fast

in her montage of like trying to talk about Aubrey right but I think they're like forgetting there's an edited show and I just went back to look at it like before the Q&A and she's wearing like four different outfits in that montage. Oh interesting. Like it's happening

for like several days. Yeah. I had so much fun doing the Joe versus Rick episode a couple of last week. I have been thinking about doing a Genevieve versus Aubrey one. I just feel like maybe

that story's not done yet. Maybe I am going to hold off in terms of like maybe I'm not going to rush to get it out, but I am going to start going back and looking at some of that stuff. Yeah, this is definitely like,

there's like a mini, like season of Genevieve versus Aubrey like within the show itself. Really? I'm very excited to see how to happen. The other idea that I had and I probably would need help from somebody is like,

the times in blood on the clock tower that Emily Flippen has done exactly what she did in this where somebody tells Emily flipping the truth and she's like I don't trust it that's it let me throw you under the bus I knew that happens in at least half the episode

she's on. Yes. Yes. But yeah, Emily Flipping you could tell her what's going on and it's like why didn't you tell me sooner? You're done. Or don't tell her and then she finds out

and you're done. It's a little, it's giving Cedric to me. You know, sometimes, like people have their own, they have like preconceived things happening and,

yeah, it takes them time to adjust it. Like she always comes back around eventually, but you know, there's like that first instant reaction, right? Yeah. Okay. All right.

Thank you so much. Okay. All right. Okay. All right. Then Anastasia, is here. Anastasia, how are you? Good. How are

you, Rob? Yeah, doing very well. What's happening? I love to see you and Stephen together. That made me so happy. I spent a lot of time with Stephen this week. I spent probably I mean, I was with him

like a big part of the day, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. So really got in a lot of quality time with Stephen. I'm glad about that. Can you help settle an argument. Yes. So me and a friend of mine were talking about 51 and up if they're going to change anything.

And I said they should get rid of the beware advantage and put in the boomerang advantage. Okay. Because the beware advantage takes away the player's ability to be strategic because you lose your vote. But the boomerang idol, if you play it correctly, you can either have an ally or have an automatic target. And she disagrees with me. So what is your opinion? Well, Anastasia, I don't want to risk losing you as a patron.

You won't. But I'm going to agree with your friend. Because I think that, first off, the people losing their vote from the beware advantage is not even a thing anymore. I can't even remember the last player that did not have an actual vote at tribal council because of the beware advantage. Almost every beware advantage, I think, is found before the tribal council.

And a lot of them have turned into, okay, you've great news, you found the beware advantage. This is not activated until you lose a challenge and then you have to figure out the thing before you go to tribal council. So I'm sure the chat would know. I can't remember the last person who went to tribal council and didn't have a vote from the beware advantage. I feel like not since like the early 40s was that a thing. So the Billy Elish boomerang idol, I don't necessarily know why I would be sending somebody a boomerang idol if in a season of all new players,

where it gets into like, oh, me and that person vibe that Ponderosa before the game. Or I want to send it to this person who seems, I want to send it to her because, I want to work with women and she's a strong woman on the other tribe. So I think it's less interesting to have people send it to strangers just based off of vibes. Okay. I didn't see what you're saying because I guess I'm basing it on 50 and everybody kind of knowing each other.

But I agree with you. Yeah. But I'm open to other fun ideas in terms of the idol. We had in season 40 where it was like, okay, this is an idol, but you have to give it to somebody else for one day where Sophie or Kim found the idol and then gave it to Sophie. And Sophie's like, why are you doing that? You shouldn't have done this.

You shouldn't have told me about this idol. So I'm open to things where you have to like bring somebody else in to make the idol work. But I just think it would be too random to do this type of idol with a new player season. Okay. My second question is I have been starting. trying to figure out how Stephanie can save herself. Okay. If they go back to tribal council.

I can't see a way where she could actually save herself. Well, I will say, yeah, I will say that I don't think anybody's too worried about Stephanie. I don't think that they necessarily look at her as, okay, we are such a strong alliance, the David versus Goliath three and Ozzie and Emily Flipping. And we are, we are picking off Q's alliance. I think that Stephanie, I don't know if people are necessarily worried about her and what she's going to do. I think she's a pretty cards up player. And I think that they might feel like that there's bigger fish to fry.

So I don't know if it's necessarily going to be a, you know, straight vote for Stephanie. Although Angelina did, I'm surprised this wasn't a bigger factor in the episode. In her pregame interviews, she talked about, she was anti-Colby and Stephanie. and ironically Stephanie talked about how you know who I don't really love Q he tried he's in my DMs he's

bothering me and he's trying to pregame and I'm like leave me alone dude you're coming on too strong I don't like it and then they end up actually very close on the island but Angelina was not a huge fan of Colby and Stephanie going back to the old tribe

and you would have thought that Angelina would have really wanted to put the screws to Stephanie here on this vote, but I guess she seemed okay to go after Q. Because I thought that Angelina kind of had like a play in where Mike White was like, no, I'm going to vote you out. I'm going to vote for you, Stephanie. Like I feel like they're a duo.

So wouldn't it be easier for Christian and Emily and Ozzy to go where the numbers are versus trying to save someone who is on the out. Because they aligned with Q. Yeah. We'll see. We don't necessarily know. I'm trying to think of who was the person that was really driving the vote for Q. Was it Mike?

Yeah. Mike was driving because he point blank said he would not vote for Angelina. Mm-hmm. That he was going to write Stephanie's name down. But he then told Angelina and them, know we're going to vote for Q. And when Q played the whole, well, write my name down.

Yeah. I just thought that Mike said that he was going to play and try to keep the most interesting players in the game. Did he not say that in the preseason? Not to call Mike White a hypocrite. Yeah. I would never say that. I would not say that.

People are other people are saying that. I think he did. But somewhat like after a couple weeks ago talking to Mike Bloom, I feel like the pregame interviews kind of go out the We would know once you actually get on the island and see, you know, Mike White and Angelina are so tight. Wasting our time for weeks and weeks? Well, no, I enjoy them completely.

But I feel like, you know, Angelina and Mike are so tight that I don't think anything can break them up. Yeah. Okay. All right. Well, Asasia, please forgive me for siding with your friend and your argument. It's okay. That's why I asked you because I'm like, you are the person that can explain it. I'll give you my professional opinion.

Yeah. All right. Bye. Thank you, Rob. Take care. Bye. All right. Let's say hi to Gary, not Hulgabum. Gary, how are you? Are you? Yeah, doing really well, Gary. What buff do you have? Is that a Vatu buff? Oh, yeah, Vatu. Yeah. So do you think it's pink or purple?

Hmm. I would say it's a little more... Can I say magenta? I don't know. I feel it's like Barney Purple, seeing it in person. Yeah. But it's got a little bit of pink. I'd say more purple than pink. Yeah. Well, I heard Parvety left a live event in a full-body cast.

No, she was in the cast of many reality shows, many seasons. Yeah. And I want one quick aside, when we're, I got a podcast notification, watch what crap and high end. It was exactly when the Christian gastrointestinal moment happened. So I'm calling that ironic. Yes. Gary, I didn't know you were a big bravaholic.

I'm not. I just got the drop in my podcast. Ah, okay. Well, anyway, okay, so I have... You got the Rob as a podcast side of the collaboration, yes. Okay, so how do you feel the new era is translating as a returning season? I think it's good. I think that the dangerous fun and, you know, a lot of decisions that have to be made.

I do think that it lines up well with a returning player's season. season. Maybe that's the thing. Maybe that we need to tell Jeff that you know what? The new era format, the returning players really unlock it. It really hits with a returning player season. You know, I do agree with that. It's like we don't like we don't really know people in the original cast. And so introducing them through the backstories and the advantages isn't really hitting, but when we already know the people, they lose their vote. You know, they go on a journey.

Like, oh, we get to see this person meet up with this person. Yeah. My only issue has been that like Savannah leaving because she went on a journey or Q leaving because he didn't have a vote is a little unsatisfying. I wish it was more about something more about what they did. Well, I think Savannah left because she was on Survivor 49 and nobody knows her. I mean, that was really the bigger issue more so than the journey. and I don't think that ultimately Q losing his vote was the deciding.

And Q got swapped screwed. I mean, there's not really too much that you could say about it. Even with his vote, it seems like the Q was in trouble. One thing I wanted to mention two. I don't know. Did the Stephanie Colby Alliance talk about honor integrity? I feel like. I think it's honor integrity vibes.

I don't know if they said those words. Yeah. Yeah. I just took a little bit of an issue. with Angelina, when she had that conversation with Emily, and I haven't heard many people talk about it, how she was basically lied to that she was part of like a six-person alliance. And so that if that comes around of the outer integrity thing,

maybe at the merge, like that's going to stick in the back of my mind at least. Yeah. So anyway, okay, so then I do, let's see here. So if Aubrey finds the boomerang idol and she gets the clue explaining the mechanics of it and realizes that whoever sent it to her with the potential, that if she's voted out and lose and it goes back to them, does that build distrust if she finds out? I think that her guard could be up.

And I do think that that would be Aubrey in a nutshell of being somebody who's very guarded no matter what. So I think that that actually would be probably a net negative for Christian and Rick that if they end up thinking that or she ends up thinking that like, wait, are they trying, but are they trying to submarine me? because Aubrey was betrayed by the Victoria Alliance in the Edge of Extinction. And I feel like Tiffany might have a high chance of finding the idol and she could potentially tell Aubrey too.

Well, I think that she's been on this beach. So maybe that might help her chances of, I don't think anybody found an idol here, but she's probably been looking. Sure. And last thing, too, I'm actually going to attend my first RHAP live show. in New York. Yes.

So I'm excited for that. I have a question about, I got the ticket with the book included in the signing. Is there a way to get the pre-order bonuses with that? Yeah, we'll figure it out. I don't know the exact logistics. This is the stuff where I say, Sam, you cook on this.

Like, let me just be on the podcast. And then, you know, the team, let them, earn their money. Let them earn their salary. Figure this out, guys. Come on. Yeah, fan cook. Okay. All right. Appreciate your time. Thanks, Gary. All right. Good week. Take care. Bye. Okay. Okay. Let's go to UK Nathan. UK Nathan. Oh, oh, sorry, Ken's not coming out. Let me come back to you next. Okay. All right. UK Nathan, how are you? Yes? Nathan. Oh, God. Hi. Sorry.

I wasn't sure if you were doing a bit. Sometimes people come on. Oh, no. No, sorry. I'm so sorry. audio was not working there. Hi, nice to meet you, Rob. Good to see you. Um, yeah, it was real smooth with me. Uh, yeah, um, sorry, I was completely throwing me. Uh, how are you? You've been asked that multiple times. Yeah, I'm doing really well. Yeah, sick. Okay, um, so yeah, the question I was sort of coming into this with was that, um, we, so I think it's really interesting watching how different people get represented in the edit, especially early on with returning seasons,

because we've had, we're at a point we've obviously had multiple, multi-time returnees, so, you know, three, four, obviously now going on five. At this stage in the season, obviously is very early to predict this, but we've had, you know, someone like Q,

who's gone really early, but is still, you know, still holds the kind of star factor. I wouldn't say he flopped. necessarily on a character front. I would never say that. Yeah. So who do you think from where we're stood right now

is likely to return again from this point in the season? I'd say, okay, so you have the people that are out or the people that are in? Everybody who's, everybody in the season so far. Okay, all right. So let me see if I can go through. Who is, what's the best way to do? this. Let me see if I bring up.

Give me the list. I'll tell you. Who's trending towards coming back again? Okay, well, Q. Q is going to play five times. Yeah, I 100% see Q coming back. Yes. Even though whatever the next one is, provided isn't like a

specific theme. To Survivor, here's what I'll say, is that you live in a world now, if you don't bring Q back, you're going to lose him. Use him or lose him. That's the deal now. 100%. I think

Genevieve, I mean, I'm biased because I, Genevieve, trending towards playing again. Yeah,

I think she's had really strong content so far. And I think it kind of breaks my heart to say this. I think

Aubrey's going to get one over on Genevieve and this. Yeah, but I do think this is it for Aubrey. I don't think we're going to get Aubrey 5.

Yeah, I definitely agree with that. I don't think we'll have Surrey, Aussie, coach. I think this could be it for Surrey. Yeah. The really old guard, Surrey, Ozzie, coach,

Colby, Stephanie, this is it. Do you think the same of Jenna? This is it for Jenna. Yeah, I felt the same. Okay, what about someone like Jonathan? Jonathan, I think that this is

trending towards more. Okay Rizzo is probably an interesting discussion point I think Rizzo could like let's see what happens within the rest of the way

but I think that the book wouldn't be closed on Rizzo he's so young yeah definitely I can see him coming back like a significant time later but I could see him getting a break where it's like

you know this is now Riz God is 37 in playing Survivor yeah what about the David versus Goliath trio I think that Christian, yes, and I think maybe for Mike certainly no, and Angelina, I think probably not.

They're not even showing Angelina on the season that she's on. Yeah, I think there's a few people who aren't really getting, I mean, who knows? That's been my biggest mystery box of why has Angelina gotten such a small edit so far through this season? Three episodes. Three episodes and how many hours of this show have we watched? six hours of it and I feel like that she's been one of the most purple contestants

of the entire show other than Q saying that she was like a statue she did have a moment with Emily Flipin but I'm not getting why she was such a no brainer to bring her back I don't know why they feel like

I get the sense that maybe they're not loving what she's doing but I'm not sure why because it seems like similar to what she's done in the past yeah I think yeah I mean one thing I was wondering because obviously we saw from behind the scenes that she did the negotiation on the

first challenge. Yeah. I'm wondering if production feels like she's tryharding a bit. Like she's sort of, she knows her. That's what she does. Yeah, but like, I don't know. I mean,

I'm wondering if production sort of feeling it's like a bit, it's not, it's coming across kind of insincere. It's like, it's because I think the beauty of Angelina and David Verdeke-Gelike is her obliviousness. I don't think she's aware of how she's coming across. Yeah.

I don't know. But it seems like that seems on brand for Angelina. Like that feels like that she is being as on brand for her as coach as being. I don't know how much them like, you know, is coach always being like 100% authentic coach, not doing anything for television? Yeah, no, that's fair. And anybody else who you think is a, you know, before I wrap up, anybody else who you think is going to be a sort of. Bailts who's coming in hot

and nobody that's really coming to mind. I do think Charlie could play more. I think that Joe certainly could play more. So I think that with the new era people, D, I could see playing more. So I think that the new era people, and maybe this is why they did it,

where maybe that it's like kind of a dead end, if you brought back a bunch of like older players who are not necessarily going to be playing. And maybe I think they want to set up maybe the future five times. players here. Definitely. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Great. All right. Sorry, sorry. I'm not the beginning. You're good. You can Nathan. Okay. All right. Let's go to Ken's boss. Hey, Kenz. How are you? Hey, I'm great. How are you? Yeah, doing it very well. What's up?

Well, last night, I would like to report. I went to the Ben and coach slang of America. What is that? Give us the scoop. Oh, it was so much fun. It was so fun. Yeah, I mean, Ben was great. Coach did great. He had his horn wearing a beautiful kind of embroidered Paisley coat that I really, really loved. Ozzy was there. Ozzie and Eric, right back. We're both there. And I discovered Ozzy was there. I was really hoping that he was. and the way that I discovered it was that Ben was calling out to him on stage and then kind of looked. What I felt like was Ben was looking directly at me. And then I turned behind me, oh my God, Ozzy's behind me, like directly behind me.

So that was really fun. What do they play? A lot of covers or it's original music? It's original music. I had no idea what they were going to play. I didn't want to know. I wanted to be surprised. I like a good cover.

I got to be honest. Yeah. I like a cover, but... A bunch of songs I'd never heard before, perfect. Mm-hmm. But guess what? They're almost all about Survivor. Even better.

Original songs about Survivor? Perfect. I like returning players. Like, play the hits. Come on. I know. So I did, you know, a lot of bopping. Everyone's having fun.

That's the important part. Here's one from my new album. Like, ugh. There was some call and response, even. I just, it was a really interesting experience. And another fun thing about it was that they had a couple openers, some two fantastic local openers. And the way that they were arranged on the poster,

Ben Katzman and coach edging nude, which is not funny for any reason, of course. And that's just what the name of their band is edging nude? Edging was one of the openers. And then nude. is another. Yes. Yes.

Okay. All arranged in the headline. Really beautiful stuff, 10 out of 10 work from everyone involved there. But yeah, it was great. I had a fun time. They have some more stops. So if anyone's listening and on the fence. The tour continues.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. I know, is edging and nude going to be on the tour the whole time? No, that's just special to Chicago. You guys can't have them. Those are for us. I heard edging was going to go very, very, far, almost all the way to the next tour stop, but then stop right before they get there. Legend has it they never well.

Yeah. So something to think about. They're going to go back to Wisconsin and then start and then get all the way back again and then stop. Right. And the thing that they always say is that the journey is the best part. It's all about the journey. Yes. And that's what they've always said.

Yeah. So, I do actually have a survivor question. Yes. Which is the two Christian groups that he's really tight and his like real life friends of the David versus Goli three. And then I mean, I know he's friends with, you know, Rick and Emily. But that seems like more of an in-game created group, especially, you know, including Surrey. And I'm wondering, like, I'm trying to think out how I think it's going to go and like which of Christians group. are going to crumble first, or if he's going to have to make a choice,

or if it's one of the, someone else in the group is going to turn. Like, I don't know. I just, I'm imagining Christian in like a who, which side do I betray scenario. Do you think something like that's going to happen? Well, I don't know if it necessarily has to because I don't think that, you know, Rick and Surrey aren't here. And I think that he's made the best of this situation where he's brought Emily into the David versus Goliath three here.

So it feels like that he's been able to take his two friend groups and merge them. You've probably had this where you have, you know, your work friends and then, like, so your real life friends, but you're having like a get-together and then your worlds are colliding. Yes. Yeah. And it's, it's a beautiful. You're killing independent Christian. Yeah.

Yeah. It's, I don't know, I just feel like a risky, risky game. And he's playing with so many people that I like. the best. So I'm just like, oh, no. I like, I'm really hoping it continues to go well and that they can, yeah, they can merge successfully. Have a little dinner party of sorts. Yeah. Okay. I think if anybody can pull it off, it's Christian. I know. I do too. However, I feel like Surrey having Ozzy on the side as her number one makes the ground a little shake. I feel like something might happen there. Yeah. But I mean, Ozzy is there with him by way of Surrey.

and then they have a mutual there. So I think that that helps. All right. Well, maybe it'll work. So maybe it's not looking so good for Stephanie. Yeah, which, see ya. Fine with me. Yeah, I'm going to sign off.

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So midday. Cool. But it was great. No, obviously parties were great. The show was great. Podcast was great. So, no, I had a great time. Okay.

So what's on your mind today? The one thing I just wanted to chat with you about came from your exopress with Q. Yeah. I, you know, Q is, Q's the best. I love that he has a. reason, rationalization for, you know, what he's doing. However, what makes me sad is that he doesn't know what the rules are on the revote. And what he explained to you was the, not how the rules work for Survivor, which is like, no, I will say this. This is how the rules,

I believe, should work. Okay. What he was thinking. But in the post Sierra and from 47 and Justin from 48's boots where Jeff clarified on the revote that the person who doesn't have a vote that, sorry, the person who, yeah, when there's a disparity, right, between the two people, one has a vote and one doesn't have a vote, that the person still gets to vote. So what he was thinking was that it would be three, two, if him and Angelina are both, um, Like they are they both on the revote. They actually both don't. He thought they both don't get to vote when in reality Angelina would still get to

revote. And so it would be three three. So his plan great idea. Yeah. But it doesn't it's not actually. No, Josh, I feel like that you are the font of knowledge on this. My understanding of it was that there was a that in the Survivor 47 scenario, three people got votes

and because that there was like an option to vote for somebody else, I thought that that was the reason why, can you explain the Justin and Cedric situation of how? Yeah, so. So it's interesting because randomly both on the Sierra vote and on the Justin vote, both times Rachel and Mary played their shot in the dark. So there's also this extra person who didn't vote,

which is kind of just a coincidence. But so on the Justin one, which is, I think, the most clarifying vote we've gotten on how the rules go. And then Dwight came on your podcast. He made a great case for how he would change the rules. But I think the Justin didn't vote. So you just had basically on the first vote. It was Say Cedric. And it was just saying Cedric who voted actually because Mary Plater shot in the dark and Justin didn't vote.

Yeah. Say and Cedric both voted. voted one for Cedreda for Say, voted for Justin. Then on the re-vote, this is what Jeff reaffirmed, as what he also shared with on 47, is that because he had to now reveal that Justin did not have a vote,

and the way the rules work is that, you know, they originally just both didn't vote for each other on the revote in historical precedent because it was assumed that they could just only vote for each other, but because Justin didn't have a vote, say was now able to vote for Justin on the revote. So then Say and Cedric re-voted. However, Cedric still voted for Say and C-and-Say still voted for Justin.

So then it came to like the rock-drawn discussion, which meant Say and Justin were both like not able to participate. Mary played her shot in the dark. She's not able to participate. Just Cedric is able to make the decision. So. Yeah, this is the kind of stuff where we need to text Matt Van Wagnin. Don't have his numbers.

So it won't be from me. But yeah, Christine in the chat is saying that in Australian Survivor, that the rules were the QW. and it made me really mad because I think it should be what Josh is saying. They only don't vote because of their votes cancel. So I love that comment.

I disagree, which is actually makes it all more complicated. There's kind of three camps that I form between the super nerds on what the rules should be. There's the way the rules that Survivor has it. I know David Blumerk is a fan of that. There's a second way, which is what Dwight and you talked about

immediately after that Justin vote, which is essentially that say should be able to participate in the rock draw. and continue through with her voting status should give her priority throughout the entire discussion. But I'm actually a fan of essentially the pre-cl clarified rules, which is how all, again, the super nerds assumed the rules were, was based a little bit on the precedent of when there was a three-way tie that they were not allowed to vote. So we kind of assumed that when there was a tie, that those people are kind of seen, this is how I, like, this is how I viewed it.

And it's like, those people are seen as, like, put up on a block. And they're, they're, like, given a secondary class to then the rest of the tribe is forming their thoughts on that. How do we deal with these two people that tied? Like we now decide. I think we just can't let people lose their votes anymore. Just making it too complicated. If like honestly, if like me and you were on a call and we don't even know how it works, like what the hell are we even doing?

Yeah. No, I definitely agree. That's why I'm in favor of the third option, which I do think simplifies things. But again, different discussion, you know, not on. Two guys that talk about this stuff a lot and we are still unclear of how this works. Like what chance does my mom have to like go figure out what's happening? Exactly. And I will just say it's one more time, which is why I think the rule should just be if you tie,

no matter if it's two people tie, three people tie, you essentially should just move their stumps to a different spot. Like literally just pick up their stumps, move them to away from the tribe and be like, these two are up for tribal execution. like in metaphor and like they're up for the gallows now the rest of the tribe should just then re-vote.

So what if we just said on a tie like the rule change is on a tie you're still allowed to vote? Wouldn't that make things easier? Well, that's basically what the rules are now. And but then the rules are if there's a tie I'm not allowed to vote. If there's three votes for you

and three votes for me, we're not voting. Yeah. I mean, that's fine. Angelina still votes in the case of a tie. Q has lost his right to vote. And so he cannot vote in this tie. I see.

Yeah, I see what you're saying. I think that that is fine. But you're saying even if there's two people who did have votes that they would still get to vote, both of them. I'm sorry, say it one more time, Josh. So what if both Q and Angelina could vote? Like, would they both get to revoke?

Sure. Right. Like you both re-vote on a time? tie and then and then when if it's still a tie after this, we're going to have a rock draw. The two people who are tied are going to be exempt from the rock draw. Yeah, I think that, because that's, that fixes this. Yeah, I think that that is a good, that's a good option.

I'm thinking through the, the, the weird cases, like when we get to like the Justin situation, when people play their shot in the dark. I guess it unfairly weights, you know, like people who didn't have a vote originally. So I guess the major downside is that the person who didn't have a vote is essentially, like, given equal weight as a person who didn't. So, I mean, it's less clunky, which I agree, which I think should be the priority. I think, again, and what my pitch would be is like prioritizing decipherability and less clunkiness. So I'll think about your your idea here. I do think my suggestion fixes things.

Because it's like, it definitely fixes. You don't get to revote in a tie, I think, is the what is now what gets complicated here when people are losing votes. Yeah, yeah, I agree. I think, yeah, I'll think about it more. But I agree that we should make it easier and simpler. All right. Thank you, Josh. Okay.

Take care. All right. Thanks, so much. See. Okay. All right. Let's go to Christine. And Josh, the test case should be, let's go back to the final six of Cambo.

Because I think that maybe what happened was that they really fell in love with, you know, the no votes tribal council. That I think they like the idea of that we're getting down to zero votes. So think about that. How does that change if we let people vote on, re-vote on a tie? I'll do some thinking on it. I'll get back to you. Okay. Bye.

Advantage getting. Well, I think that wasn't even a tie. They didn't even vote on that. All right, Christine. Hi. Christine, how are you? Sorry, you have to follow that. Well, yeah, I was in here not thinking strategy at all.

And then now my brain is thinking strategy, but I wasn't, I wasn't interested in that. Yeah. Okay. So what's on your mind? What are you interested in? Well, I love Survivor 50. It's like therapy. It's making me happy.

The world is not so happy. but $5.50 is so great. Yes, yes. It's not like therapy. It is your therapy. It is. Yes. Only because I don't have a therapist at this moment.

So it's just like, you know, the best, but. Yeah. Because therapy does not go 90 minutes. I wish. Yeah. They say, okay, that's enough. That's it.

Yeah. So some may remember that my beat is celebrity, or not celebrity. looks like, but lookalikes. Okay. Who do the survivors look like? My husband once came with the take that you looked like David Kinney. You may remember.

Yes. Yes. Yes. So our latest one is we were watching Survivor and Jonathan Young came on the screen. And again, it was my husband. He was like, yeah, he looks just like the Stranger Things guy. And he looks just like Hopper. Hopper from Stranger Things.

Let's see. I'll ask Dominic. Let's see. Hopper from Stranger Things. things let's see okay let's see okay he's the so he's the police officer yeah okay does jonathan look like how i actually could see this one look at jonathan young in 50 because he's aging i did the problems i can't do it side by side so i have to just here is just i can give you just hopper okay here he is is this jonathan from stranger things yes i could see it if he takes

his shirt off, I think it's a different story. Yeah. How tall is Hopper? Ooh. How many pull-ups can he do? How many eggs can he eat? How many weighted pull-ups? Yeah. 11. Yeah.

Okay. All right. Good to know. Christine. Do you have another look-alike from season 50? Oh. No. Okay. Not pulling in next week. Or not next week, two weeks from now. Yeah. That's the rule.

Okay. Okay. Well, that's it. That's it. Tell your husband, keep them coming. Okay. Okay, I will. I'll try to have some original ideas, but I love it.

Okay. All right. Thank you, Christine. Okay, take care. Have a good fun. Bye. All right. Let's go to Michael.

Okay. Michael, we just saw it out in Los Angeles. Michael, how are you? Rob, I'm doing great. So tired. I'm back at work. It's been a busy day after being out for three days. But so tired.

When did you get it back in last night? Last night, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yes, it was such a different experience for me than my first live show in Houston. Yes. And you were at Molly's house? Was that right?

Yes, her Aunt Patty. Shout out of Aunt Patty. Yes. Molly, Jenna, and I all stayed there and Calabasas, and it was great. Yes. But, yeah, it was so different because, like, in Houston, I really didn't know anyone yet at that time. And so, yeah, I was so nervous, so starstruck by everybody. And now seeing so many familiar faces that, you know, see in person after seeing them on the screen for so long, it was just so much fun.

Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Well, thank you for making the trip. Thanks to Molly and Ann Patty for hosting. Yes, thank you. Okay. Well, quick question, because I was thinking that, you know, in Houston, we had the Operation Italy episode.

which is obviously fantastic. And then here we had a great episode as well, I thought. What do you think is the best episode that you've had on a live show that gave you, like, the most to talk about? And is there one in particular you can remember that, like, didn't give you a lot to talk about? Yeah, I think the most classic one, I think was the Malcolm Game Changers vote. That was, and of course we had the video where Mike Bloom pointed at the screen. I think that that was a lot to break down.

But honestly, I feel like a deep, a very, very. strategic episode is not necessarily the best for a live show. I think you want a live show that has like a lot of moments. And I think that even though there was no tribal council, one of the better live shows I thought that we had to talk about was season 44. It was the, what was his name? Matthew ended up going home in a medevac, but there was a lot of like big character moments to talk about and people came on and had different things to break down from that. So I really feel like that you want there to be more like fun moments to talk about more so than because I find that the live show audience that people like sort of like

just glaze over when you're talking like it's like a big like exciting event and this that what we're doing now, this is great for a strategic conversation. But then at the live show, it's really not the right place where, you know, 900 people like kind of get a little antsy where you kind of just like got to keep the energy going on the live show. And, you know, things that are funny and talking about, you know, fun moments or playing a game. I think that those are the things that work best when we're trying to figure out the live show as opposed to, you know, really like a breakdown of like, you know, this, like this person played their vote and this person they should have played their shot in the dark. It's, I think it's hard in a big audience like that.

Yeah. And I feel like this one was great for that. There were lots of fun moments. I mean, like you mentioned the Charlie moment like on a huge uproar. And there were lots of very fun moments from it. It really does translate well for the live show in terms of the people like, okay, you played with this person. How are they doing?

What do you think of this person? What do you think of this person? So that's really good. you don't really have that in the seasons where it ends up being just a return of first-time player season. Sure. Yeah. That makes sense. All right.

Well, that's all I had. I'll let you keep it moving raw. But thank you again. Thank you, Michael. Okay. All right. All right. Okay.

Let's go to Ben in the car. Okay. Ben, how are you, buddy? I'm good. How are you, sir? Yes. Okay. Ben, you're being safe.

right? I am being safe. I'm an excellent driver. I'm an excellent driver. Okay. Which, you know, you, yeah, actually, actually that brings up. I won't even look at you. Yeah, eyes on the road. Yes. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not looking down. I'm being very safe. Yeah, but how have you been? I've been good. I've been good. I wanted to tell you, I don't know if I ever got to tell you thank you for, you kind of, the post that I made like two years ago, whenever I had that real bad wreck, you commented on it. And my wife was like, oh, look, Rob even said he's dead. You're doing well.

And I was like, yeah, that makes me feel good. Yeah. But yeah, I want to tell you, thank you for saying that. Yeah. But that was a long time ago. But you seem okay. And so I'm very relieved that everything's going okay. Yeah.

Yeah, I'm doing great. But, oh, I got a spot this and turn to pull over here. Look at this. Look at this. Perfect. Look at this. All right. I'm being safe.

I promise. I'm stopped now. Okay. Cool. So I think it's been, I think last time I called in, these were called Facebook Fridays. Now we opened it up more. That's a YouTube Friday.

I do like it. And I saw that it says Survivor on it. Can I ask you a couple things about traders? Yeah, I think so. I think there's a spoiler alert for the traders. Yeah. Yeah. If you haven't watched the traders, yeah, what the heck are you doing?

I'm a Rob as a podcast patron. I haven't watched Traders yet. Yeah, no joke. Why are you even here? Yeah. Back in a pod, I heard a podcast that you're doing with Pooia. I thought I heard you say something that made me think that the Donna Kelsey pick was random. Is that true?

Yeah, so I'm surprised that people seem to like, wait, that wasn't random. They told us when we were there, they said, you'll each come down and randomly select a box. And I really thought that there would be like 23 boxes set up. And then we'd all stand in front of one and then open it and somebody got it. But I was like, they told us it was random. But I'm like, okay, they called us down and then showed us our box. It doesn't, that doesn't seem like. And I'm like, I think that the audience is going to have some questions. But I guess in the actual episode, they did not say that it was ranked. But when we were there, it seemed like they said it was going to be random.

And I'm like, oh, F. And that's why I really didn't, I mean, in hindsight, I would have loved to have been the secret traitor. But I did not. Like, I was like, really just like in my mindset was that I didn't want to be a trader. And so I did not want to like, okay, now I randomly got it in front of everybody. Right. Yeah.

Yeah, you said that. And I was like, wasn't that really? I was like, that couldn't have been. Yeah. Yeah. They wouldn't pick up. They wouldn't leave that up to chance. Because to me, that the pick was done to Kelsey when I found it out, I was like, oh, yeah, random.

But it's a little too cute there. Yeah. Yeah. But then in the episode, they did not say it was random. Okay. So they lied to you guys. They didn't lie to the audience, though. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. I guess it's not a lie. They didn't say it on television. That's right. Yeah. It doesn't count. Doesn't count unless it's on TV. Yes.

But another question I had kind of had, I didn't know if you and Poo. y'all we're going to do a season wrap up or anything i know you're so busy probably not but i i was wondering like what is this new version on nbc going to look like other than like far less cuss words like do you watch the uk version i do yeah and i i wonder but i'm kind of wondering like you know they're bringing the peacock crowd into it and they've already introduced like several new twist and stuff like this but for like the nbc like since they're going to be you know getting probably a lot more old people watching the show. Like, are they going to slow it down or try and take it back to basics, like,

to the original season? Because it didn't seem like there was as much like stuff twist and turns in the original season. If I had to guess, I think it'll be sort of like a one-to-one with the UK version. I don't think that it's going to necessarily feel like that, oh, we're introducing traders to a new. It's like, you love traders on Peacock. But now on NBC, here's this other version. So I don't think that they'll be treating it like.

this is Traders Civilian Season 1 and we're going to like go all the way back. I think that they're just going to be the, it's going to be the same as the traders normal and just with civilians. And I think that it's going to be really good. Yeah, I think I've really enjoyed all the ones that have the civilians in it. And you know, you kind of get to know them as you're going through, you know, the show. And that's, that's a fun part of it for me. I did see, I did see the one minute warning thing.

So I will abide by that. Did you watch last night's House of Villains? No, I haven't seen it yet. Oh, okay. Is it good? I won't say anything then. Okay. Yeah, I liked it.

Keep an eye out as you watch it. Keep an eye out for something that Tyson is doing in the episode. He's writing on something. And keep an eye out for that. Okay. It might be for the Tyson super fans to notice what he's doing. Okay. But I noticed it and messaged him about it.

And it's kind of funny. Can I ruin it for you? Yeah, that's fine. he's he's doing Sudoku on the show. Oh. You know, his kryptonite from the challenge. And I messaged him about it. I said, is that a Tyson completionist Easter egg you gave us there?

Yeah. And he said, actually, he said, actually Tom Sandoval gave it to me as a joke. He said, and so it was kind of... Did he know about that? He's like, I guess Tom did, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I thought that was kind of funny. Sorry to ruin that for you.

That's fine. I doubt. Yeah, I might not have caught it. Yeah. All right. Well, thank you so much. Ben and yeah, great to catch up. Yeah, good to see you.

All right. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Okay. And then Nathan is here fresh off of his trip to L.A. Nathan, how are you? I'm good.

How are you, Rob? Yeah, doing, I'm doing pretty well. I'm holding up. Yeah, I heard you talking about how you're feeling after a trip and I probably got in the door. You can relate? Yeah, I think so. It's feeling good, feeling better than most.

I didn't cross country to get home, but waiting for the other shoe to drop probably later tonight. But feeling good. Okay. So, yeah, I had a few things I'd jot it down to try and be, you know, efficient here. So the first thing, I just wanted to make sure I was remembering. What day are we at in the game? Are we at like day eight or something? I think it was eight, they said.

Okay. So I'm wondering that in my notes. Okay. Did you happen to elaborate earlier in the call today or at some point about how this would work out with the math in order to eliminate, I guess what would it be? 17 more people. I thought that we would see more pre-merged tribal councils and then we would have more single tribal councils after the merge. I suspect that maybe we're going to have more of a traditional pre-merge and maybe do with our 90-minute episodes that we're going to. to have more double tribal councils.

Like in a 90 minute episode, we start off with basically, you know, camp life, challenge, strategy, tribal council, rinse and repeat and do it twice. In terms of the days that are left, we have, what is that, 18 days, 17 people to eliminate. Mm-hmm. Okay. But you don't have to eliminate everybody. You don't have to get it down to basically, you know, four and then three.

So, uh, it's true. So how many people are allowed? 18 or 18 or left. Is that right? 20. Well, I think we have 20 left.

So we'd have to eliminate 17. 20 or left. So 16. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I mean, I'm just thinking about it going forward because I think you're right.

I think it seems like they're not in any hurry and maybe they, they figured we lost so many people so early on some of these great seasons. Yeah. I think it's more that you have all these people. You brought them back. Like let's have, let's have, let's give them as much. screen time as possible early on and then like then we'll speed up the pace later on in the game

yeah i like it i think it's a good move and then we're not seeing we're not there's just not like a surprise later where we're like guess what we have the outcast surprise that's not happening right not doing that what about um not doing that yeah so classic it's too classic what about the idea, like, okay, we have Zach Brown coming next week, episode four, and then sometime we're going to have Mr. Beast. Is Mr. Beast going to come in with this elimination

twist that it's going to be a bloodbath? He's going to come in and like a bunch of people are going to be gone? I don't think so. I don't think that Mr. Beast is going to, like, I think that Mr. Beast seems to be holding, like, I feel like he has like an advantage, but I don't think that Mr. Beast

is going to like, okay, four people are eliminated now because, like, I don't think that Mr. Bees is going to come in and make it a different show. Okay. I'm just worried because everything that I know of Mr. Beast and things he does is it's for the like the wow factor, the shock value. And then what kind of shock value is he going to bring to Survivor, his flavor, you know? Yes.

But I suspect like who's willing to like risk something to get something. I feel like that that is probably a part of like the Mr. Beast brand of who's willing to make a big move as opposed to who's willing to like, who's willing to like, you know, that's not survivor, pick two people to go home right now. Yeah. I'll remain cautiously optimistic about all these celebrities. I don't want to go too far, you know, out on a limb and say, that won't happen. Sure.

Yeah. Yeah. It's fine. I think they've done enough with the couple of people they're sprinkling in. The two satellite entries here and the two on site. Yeah, Nathan, that if I correct me if I'm wrong. wrong. I do feel like in the promes, I think that there was a coin. I feel like that there was a, like, I remember in like some sort of like beast coin that was like flipping. And I feel like it's

also in the intro, there's a coin that says 50. And so we have had a, uh, a, in season 39, dean like flipped a coin to get an advantage. Now in beast games, the beast coin doubled the prize pot also, that there was a person that that was a in Beast Games one and two, a player got a coin and if they got to a certain point that they had the chance to flip the coin and double the prize pot. And I believe in season one, if you've, you've chose to flip the coin, but if it landed like tails or you were wrong, you were eliminated. But if you were right, it doubled the price pot from five million to ten million. In season two, the coin was still. there, but I don't believe that you got eliminated if it didn't work.

You know what? That would track. The beast coin is in the trailer. Yeah, that's what a few people sitting near me on Wednesday night said the same thing. We all caught that coin in the intro, which, by the way, awesome to see that for the episode. But last little segue here with the coin and the doubling of money. Am I remembering correctly?

Angelina did have something in her pre-season. and content about like they should double the part. It's too small. Yeah, so I mean if she's flipping the coin, she'd probably be game for that, right? Yeah, I think so. I think she'd risk her game.

But she'd say, guys, I risked my game to double the prize pot. Don't you think that she'd stay? I love Angelina. She's great. We had a great time last week at her watch party here in San Diego. Camilla was here for that as well. And I wanted to ask last question.

Just quick, Angelina check in. I mean, she's delivered in challenges. She's pretty much, I mean, the one person that was loudest about her being lazy is now gone.

So what are your feelings on Angelina at this point? Is she on the upswing? I feel like she's good. I feel like she's going to be good for a while. Yeah. I've been thinking that maybe she has gotten a light edit because she's getting her bigger edit later.

So that's the one thing that has given me some consolation, as an Angelina watcher. Yeah, and who's going of the three David versus Glythe's, who's going after her first? Yeah, it doesn't feel like something that you would, if you were trying to break them up, I think that maybe you might be looking

a little bit more Christian or Mike. Yeah, that's what I'm hoping. Yeah. All right, I'll let you go. Thank you again, Rob. Great to see you. Yeah, unless they're worried about for some reason that she's holding us back into challenges,

maybe that they might feel like that she's the weaker challenge performer. Maybe, but she was on that puzzle and she delivered. She was in the, you know, the hero spot. Okay. All right. Thank you, Nathan. Okay, take care.

All right. All right. And then Chris, are you ready to go? Let's see. Chris, if we're audio only or Chris, can you hear me? Chris, come in. Hey, I don't know if I'm on, but your audio cutout. So I'm going to come back in.

Okay. All right. Chris, you come back in. All right. And then we'll do any sort of. other housekeeping that we need to do over the next couple of days. We've got Ethan's on coming up on the podcast. I'm going to record that on Monday.

So be on the lookout for that one. Sam, anything else that I need to tell people, Derek, anything else? But we're good. Ethan coming up, Paul Shear, also on Tuesday. Be on the lookout for that. Check out Jenny and Chappelle talked about House of Villains. I don't know if we're going to have a Paradise Recap this week. I don't know if I'm going to have time to get to it before.

I did watch the episode on the plane. I do have questions about the mailman, but we maybe just will get into all that when we talk about Paradise Episode 6. A lot of people came up to me. I want to talk about Paradise. I haven't seen the new episode yet. Well, I did watch it at 5.30 this morning in Charlotte. So it was locked in.

All right. Let me try Chris one more time. Chris? Okay, maybe it's not meant to be with Chris. Okay. All right. Sam, anything else do you want to add? Nope.

Okay, check out the patron recap of the weekend with, or the week that was with Sam and Brandon and Derek. Thank you so much for joining us. Take care, everybody. Have a good one. Bye.