RHAP: We Know Survivor - We Review Your Fan-Made Survivor Advantages

Episode Date: April 29, 2026

Fan-Submitted Advantages Brandon Donlon welcomes special guests Omar Zaheer and Zach Wurtenberger for a jam-packed “Advantages” episode devoted to the most inventive twists and powers fans can d...ream up. In this lively roundtable, the trio puts 30 fan-submitted advantage ideas under the microscope, ranking, debating, and riffing on which ones would actually make for unforgettable gameplay and which might turn the game upside-down. Brandon, Omar, and Zach dive straight into the chaos, exploring everything from the creative “Captain Phillips Hostage Advantage” (where you tie your fate to an ally or enemy) to the risky “Hot Potato Idol” that must change hands each round to stay active. Discussion heats up over social chaos mechanics like the “Bounty Advantage,” twisty idol plays, and the impact of public versus secret advantages. Omar shares his behind-the-scenes insight on how classic Survivor moments inspired these new spins, and all three reveal which ideas they would love (or hate) to see on a future New Era season, especially if mutinies, swap powers, or even cross-tribe secret mail enter the game. – Omar Zaheer’s take on mutiny and idol twists, including his “Bruno Mars Gambler Idol” – The crew’s heated debate over the practicality and fairness of public bounty advantages – Panel favorites and duds: which fan ideas inspire strategy, suspense, and real Survivor moments? – Zach Wurtenberger’s perspective on returning player seasons and secret cross-tribe notes – Live polling for the wildest advantage. Find out which pitch topped the fan vote! The episode ends with a big reveal: which advantage did fans crown as the best (and which totally flopped)? Will the next big twist reward bold strategy, or will chaos reign? Jump in for a deep dive into the wildest side of Survivor gameplay and see if your favorite advantage idea made the cut! Don’t miss this advantage-packed episode. Tune in to see which twist breaks through and what Omar, Zach, and Brandon want to see in the game next. Never miss a minute of RHAP’s extensive Survivor coverage! LISTEN: Subscribe to the Survivor podcast feed WATCH:  Watch and subscribe to the podcast on YouTube SUPPORT:  Become a RHAP Patron for bonus content, access to Facebook and Discord groups plus more great perks!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We all love Survivor, and in my first ever book, The Tribe and I have spoken, I'll tell you how this little show evolved from that juggernaut first season on the beaches of Borneo all the way into its landmark 50th season. I'm like a storyteller. That's what I do. What role did the greatest players, the unforgettable moments, and Jeff Probst himself have in shaping what Survivor has become today? And what contribution did we play in building this worldwide tribe of Survivor fans? Love you, Bay.
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Starting point is 00:01:08 I needed this. Free order wherever books are sold in hardcover and as an audio book at rob hasabook.com. That's rob hasabook.com. Nicely done, Rob. What is going on, everybody? We're so back. We got a fun thing prepared for tonight. I asked you all to send in your survivor advantages.
Starting point is 00:01:32 We got 500 of them. Crazy. And we picked the best 30 that I'm going to talk about with the people that I trust the most in this world. Two of my great friends, survivor experts. We'll start with, you heard from him last week. In Toronto, it's Omer's a year. Omer, how are you?
Starting point is 00:01:47 I'm doing great. How do you feel leaving our country and going back to yours? Nobody wanted to leave. I talked to a lot of people that night. We said, what if we all just stay? It's a great place to stay. Come to the good side.
Starting point is 00:01:59 And not for anything. You're familiar with this brand of water. Asca, I still have Asca. You know, I'm going to be honest, I hate that brand. Why? Why do you hate this brand? Because it's killing the environment, Brandon Donlin. Oh, oh, well, I'll put it down.
Starting point is 00:02:17 You know who's always putting it down. It's my great friend. I see Zach Brown is here? Yes, I am. I'm going to play a song for you guys real quick, if that's all right. We got a I got two more of these if that's all right
Starting point is 00:02:34 we might get copy rights all right let me play one more for you guys do you guys want to hear one more do one more this one's called homegrown sure all right I think you could do two seconds
Starting point is 00:02:49 I'm so glad to be here I'm so glad I can officially say that I have had the best appearance of any of the celebrities on Survivor 50. Yeah. You're the only one who didn't mess anything up. You came in, you did your thing, and you laughed.
Starting point is 00:03:06 That's true. And, you know, you guys hated it so much then. But looking at it now, not that bad. Not that bad. But you know, 10 toes down, I still stand by the statement. Had I been there, heard the thing was country music. I'm throwing the challenge. I don't want anything to do with that.
Starting point is 00:03:22 But if you could pick somebody to be the celebrity that wasn't Zach Brown, who would you have chosen? I don't know if I have a musical artist that is big enough and not to sound like elitist, not to sound like I want, you know, an indie band. Nobody said it has to be a musical artist. I would pick like Keith or Sutherland, you know, get me out, you know. I would choose Jacob Derwin. Oh, yeah, good.
Starting point is 00:03:49 That's actually really good. That's a survivor fan that I, you know, we could have performed for us. No, he does a lot of trivia. I think honestly, if they had Jacob Derwin, Trashianney, Ben Katzman, Chase Rice, Chase Rice, all come out together and, like, do a concert. Equal level playing fields.
Starting point is 00:04:11 That's how you know this isn't for the fans, because that's what they want. That's what everybody wants. Baylor, yeah. Oh, my God, Baylor. And we love Baylor. We have here 30 suggestions from you all, the listeners that we're going to go through one by one.
Starting point is 00:04:28 We'll talk about what works, what doesn't work, what have you. But for the people that are watching live, you can vote right now for your favorite advantages that we have to offer. And I'm going to throw the link right now in the chat. Shout it to our friends at StrawPull, who are not sponsoring this. In fact, I paid $8. So there would be no ads on this page. But you can go right now and vote as we're talking about them. And then in the end, I'll tell you.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Oh, my God. Oh, we're so live. We're so live. We have to be careful of what we say. Also, is this the dirty 30? Do you remember that, Brandon? Oh, I was high. Listen, I was sat for that. I was underage for some of that. Oh, okay. Awkward. I was not by much. 17. We've got 30 great ideas. And the winner, the idea that gets first place, I will track them down. I will send you a t-shirt from the Rob is a podcast store. Not worn. Oh, wow. Oh, my gosh. Wait, I should have submitted my ideas then. I didn't realize that I could get awarded for this.
Starting point is 00:05:28 But you, Zach said earlier, that you have ideas. So what's... I do. I do. I also have ideas. And I would love to hear those. Well, I guess I'll throw my ideas out there. Should I just throw...
Starting point is 00:05:39 I have three of them. Should I throw my three out as like a little hors d'oeuvre? Should we go one in one? Like, I have three as well. Oh, then go back and forth. All right. I'll read mine out first. All right.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Number one is I called it the Captain Phillips hostage advantage. inspired by one of the best movies of all time. It's basically, because I thought the tied destinies was cool. So it was what if the tied destiny's twist was an advantage? So before an immunity challenge, you may choose one player to tie your destiny to for the remainder of the episode. This means that if either of you win immunity,
Starting point is 00:06:19 you're both safe. If either of you play an idol, you're both safe. Or if either of you are voted out, you are both eliminated. So do you choose an ally to save two people at once with one idol or do you choose an enemy to basically force them to keep you around for another route? I think that I actually really like this and I think you have to choose an enemy, especially if the numbers are close. The thing is Christian and Jonathan being paired together on opposite alliances was the best thing for both of them. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Absolutely. I love that. the name. There's no better name for that in the Captain Phillips advantage. Well, he, and remember, this isn't Tom Hanks. Like, this was a real person, you know? Sure. He's done a lot of these movies where he's in a predicament. He does Sully. I guess it's just those two. Okay. My first one is the Raise the White Flag, Who from Roro Tribe Advantage, where you have one flag on each tribal beach.
Starting point is 00:07:26 that is there from the beginning of the game. You read the note. If you're ever in trouble, you could be the one person to raise this flag, and that allows you to mutiny to another tribe. It may be random. If there's three where you go to or maybe you get to two, we can workshop that. But there's only one flag per tribe. You must raise the flag before the immunity challenge.
Starting point is 00:07:50 So if you ever feel like you're in a lot of trouble, you can switch. And then do you switch or do you just get put on a new tribe? Yeah. And there's only one per tribe, so it can't be overdone. Sure. I like it. We're doing great. So far, these are great ideas.
Starting point is 00:08:13 I think that I've always liked the idea of being able to like mutiny yourself. I think that you should also be able to kick someone else out of their tribe at the same time. Like to do a full swap. Okay. And do you find this thing or this is available for any tribe at any time? It's like the bird cage on season 44. You get there. They're like, what is this flag?
Starting point is 00:08:38 And then there's a note saying if any of you want to ever leave your tribe and go to a new one, you have to be the first one to raise this flag. But you must decide before the immunity challenge. So you can't come back and be like, we lost. I'm going to raise the flag. You have to commit. I love what I would have given to have gone for that flag. I would have done it at the first challenge.
Starting point is 00:09:00 I would have been like, ah, let's re-roll. My one's your second one. That's not a terrible idea, Levi. You clearly hate Rarrow. My second one is the Bruno Mars gambler idol. So to start, this works as a regular idol that can only be used on yourself. However, there's a twist. The idol is shaped as a coin.
Starting point is 00:09:24 and if you win a coin flip, you get to save another player of your choice. You can do as many coin flips as you want, but the moment you lose one, everyone loses immunity, you're all in danger. Okay, Beast games. But you know, gambling does have rippling effects on the whole family. It's everybody that you love is affected by the same. Everybody gets punished. Yeah, exactly. I like it.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Okay, I have the Jojo Siwa switcher. through advantage, where you may be on the winning team, but then you decide after the immunity challenge, well, this is actually not a full mutiny. I just think the winning tribe should choose somebody to go to the losing tribe and they get to vote at that tribal council. Yeah, absolutely. Twist. When that happened on my first tribal council, it was the only time that it happened, obviously,
Starting point is 00:10:22 I thought we were doing that the whole season. I can't believe they scrapped it. I don't know what, and I wonder if it was the plan to do that the whole season. And for context, if you're listening, and don't recall, Kendra shows up from the winning tribe onto my first travel council where Hannah Rose leaves us. And I thought that would have been there the whole time. And I wonder if it was planned to be and then they just didn't do it. Who knows? And what's your final one?
Starting point is 00:10:48 My final one is the Gracie Abrams Neppo vote. if you win the loved ones visit your loved one doesn't just join for lunch they stay for the remainder of the episode they compete in immunity they come back to camp and participate in this grandmble and they get a vote at tribal council
Starting point is 00:11:08 okay so basically the dream situation is you get a hans in there like Brandon's uncle or Stephanie Workmerger or Stephanie Workmerker imagine if I was on 50 and Corey came out and Jared too
Starting point is 00:11:23 That would, you know, that's what we're playing for. I like it. A great TV moment can be had from that, which is what all of these should strive for. If you don't have the great TV moment, then what do we do it? My final one is the Erica Kirk Advantage. No, I'm crazy. My final one is my idea of what Mr. B should actually do, the Jimmy Donaldson advantage or the Memorial Alavia advantage.
Starting point is 00:11:52 where he comes out with his dumb briefcase and says, hey, does anybody want to leave the game for $250,000-dose? And then you can leave the game for $250K. Oh, I hate it. You hate that? I think that's going to. I love it. Why do you hate it?
Starting point is 00:12:11 Who's going to leave? Who doesn't want it that much, you know? I don't even, but I don't blame them. Like, $250,000. That's why I think these games is stupid. Like, that is so much more money. Like, especially like what, you got five days left of Survivor, like a one in ten chance of winning a million dollars. I would leave.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Yeah. That's so interesting that you would leave. And then maybe your alliance is screwed. Maybe it's not. I guess so. But I don't think that's Survivor. That's Beast games. Keep that.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Mr. Beast has nothing to do with Survivor, okay? Ever. Ever. Ever. For another 46 hours. But we're back. I do like that. Big Brother UK used to do that all the time.
Starting point is 00:12:51 And it wasn't $250,000, but it was maybe $50,000, and it came out of the prize pot. I do like that. And the guy took it. Marlon took it. You can't take away their part of the million, the millie. That's crazy. I like it. But we've got 30 more to riff on.
Starting point is 00:13:09 And for those who are listening live, go to straw poll.com slash RHAP dash advantage and vote. And we'll reveal which one has the most votes at the ebbone. end of this. This is like American Idol. I feel like Ryan Seacrest. So let's start with number one. We've got the Abraham Lincoln shot in the dark enhancer. Your shot in the dark is guaranteed safe, but nobody else knows. So it's an immunity idol. Yeah. How is that not just an idol? That you just look, you don't look like impressive that you got. You saved yourself. You just look lucky that you saved yourself. Agreed. It is pretty much fine. an idol in the form of the shot in the dark.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Is it better if it's not guaranteed safe, but now one in three? I think it's, then you pick, I think, okay, the shot in the dark, how do you enhance it? People are shot in the dark haters. I think it's great. I think that it makes people have to blindside, but how do we modify it? Because the one in six is, you know, hit once in a, or twice in an epic fashion. But I think that, you know, after you take, when Zach takes the scroll out, they shouldn't replace it for the next person.
Starting point is 00:14:20 they have better odds. Or you can actually trade and barter things so that you can play more than one at a tribal council. If you get six shot in the darks, that's an immunity idol. What's wrong with that? Yeah. Yeah, why does anybody doing that?
Starting point is 00:14:33 It's, you know what? I can give you the actual answer, by the way, why they won't let you. You give up your right to the vote. You give up your vote, and if you can't give up two votes, so that's why you can't play more than one shot in the dark at a time, but I've always thought that was stupid.
Starting point is 00:14:46 That's stupid. But everybody else can ostensibly give up their right to vote, for you. I don't think they should have to give it up for them. I think they should just, if you have the social capital to take three shot in the darks, that's so interesting. And that's more interesting than what's something we've seen in the last few seasons. Why not? I see a comment. What does this have to do with Abe Lincoln? I assume it's because he was shot in the dark. I believe that is the pun. It was a, it was a theater. I mean, it was dimly lit, certainly. I don't know if it was totally dark. Did you guys know that? But yeah. Franklin was not a president. I did know that.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Did you know that? I did not know that now. Sure. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Sure. All right. Next. It was. Next. We've got the Arnold Schwarzenegger. I'll be back idle. It's played in secret.
Starting point is 00:15:35 If the player is voted out, they go to exile and return at the start of the next tribal with immunity. So it's Australian survivor. Yeah. It's just, yeah. Australian survivor. Right. That is Australian survivor. The thing is, there's too many people on the show that they can't afford it on the limb,
Starting point is 00:15:55 but if they were going to do it, I like it. Yeah, I like it better than like the Ziggy Super Idol, you know, that they had an Australian survivor. I think that it's one of those things where it really has to be like truly earned. Like there needs to be a whole thing devoted to getting this. That's like a multi-stap, like. You combine it with the Tyra Banks advantage. You have to shave your head for it.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Yeah. Oh, wow. You got to get dental work. work done. Yeah, pull those teeth. Pull those teeth. Take those teeth out. Sure. For some, it would be easier than others. What was the Ziggy Idol? I forget what the Ziggy Idol did. It was an immunity idol nullifier. Oh, yeah. But the reason I said Ziggy was she had to go on a whole journey
Starting point is 00:16:36 just to get it where she was like voted out, but like voted to get an advantage. And it was a whole big process to get that. And it was like, they called it the super idol. I think that like for something like this, it can't just be like hidden under a sit-out bench, you know? Sure. You have to earn it. I like that you have to earn it. And I also like, even if you don't go to exile and return the next day, even if you just get voted out and they do the whole charade and then Jeff says we're voting again, we do another vote and then you come back in the morning. I think that's something. Yeah, Mel Hooker says, what about, is this the Britney Spears advantage? The shaving, I don't think so. I think that the Britney Spears advantage is if, like,
Starting point is 00:17:12 Brandon, you and I are in the same tribe and you control my vote and everything that I own. And then To break free of that, I have to shave my head. I think the Britney Spears advantage is instead of doing a firemaking challenge, you both take the knives and do a dance off. Or the snakes. You get Jake Ladimer doing the Britney Spears advantage. So many ways to go here. I thought a million dollar secret earlier, like million dollar secret.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Is that anything? Oh, yeah. Great. No, a million dollar secret is it. It's not big enough of a show. We can't do it direct. And it's a 49 reference. I mean,
Starting point is 00:17:52 we're really talking about the 49. We got nothing to talk about it. We got nothing to talk about. That show's great. I'm the biggest million dollar secret ahead. Me too. It's been so good this season. No cap.
Starting point is 00:18:06 How about the Barry Bond's intentional walk advantage? You pick a player and remove them from tribal council before the votes. It cannot be yourself. It's safety without power, but to somebody else. I think you should be able to transfer safety without power in general, so I like this. I like it so much. I think this is a great idea. I like this.
Starting point is 00:18:29 But is before the vote or after? This is before. It's got to be before the vote. We want to see the reactions of people. We want to see the scramble. They did this in Australian Survivor 4. Luke had this power and used it on. It was like Baden or something.
Starting point is 00:18:47 someone or maybe he used it on Pia? Yes, he'd use it on Baden, I believe, yeah. Yeah, and it was really cool. I think that this is a great advantage. Barry Bonds, I think Barry Bonds a little bit of an old reference. When I think of Barry Bonds, I think of steroids. Sure. I don't know enough baseball to know.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Did he intentionally walk a lot? I guess he must have. Probably. Well, it's the other team that probably would walk him, you know what I mean? Because they don't want him to just hit a home run. you guys don't know baseball are you pretending but you don't know and i just i'm not even pretending i don't know i don't know i don't know baseball okay yeah i don't know anything um yeah i didn't know they already did that but that's listen the barry bottom's intentional walk advantage shout out to shout out to luke
Starting point is 00:19:35 in the chat um how about number four this is and we want to keep it as its whole name the Billy Garcia and Candice Cody love at first sight duo idol. It's a great name. I love it. I love it already. I don't be here anything. Two idols on different beaches.
Starting point is 00:19:55 The Billy Idol holder cannot vote for the person with the Candice Idol and vice versa. Billy Idol. I like it. I love it. Why not? I love you. I love you.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Well, I will say they did this in Survivor, Prussia, and what about Survivor Syam and Survivor Prussia season four I remember Dominic and Dominic
Starting point is 00:20:23 yeah got this and it actually worked out really well the question I have is so do you do they know
Starting point is 00:20:31 like is it like do I know as the owner of Billy Idol that Omer has found the Candace Idol and what does the
Starting point is 00:20:40 Candice Idol do I think they vote that as idols. It's the same idol. Oh, I think the Candace idol would be like you have to vote. Do my votes for do my votes for Candice not like just not count? And I feel like mechanically this gets a little weird
Starting point is 00:20:58 because Jeff is reading the vote and says, oh, but this doesn't count because or am I fully blocked from voting for that person? Yeah, I don't think in these rules, I don't think you can even write their name. I think they would make you re-vote. Like I don't think it's they don't. I don't like that.
Starting point is 00:21:12 I think that I don't like the production. What does the John Tody Idol do then? Ooh. It's a twist. It's like it's a Billy Idol blocker. We have something. That's really, really good. I like it.
Starting point is 00:21:25 I guess I understand the hesitancy. You don't want to prevent anybody from doing anything hard. But you don't want to hard prevent that from happening. But I like the idea. Is it the traders where it's like if you wear, I'm sorry. Like Lisa Winnah had to wear the bro. to indicate that she was or put something with the brooch at the merge feast perhaps the billy idol holder and the candace idol holder have to signal to each other they have like even if you just wear like a brace like it's something you don't know me like it's you know i don't know i do like the idea in general of two idols coming together and finding some like a greater power like i think they should have brought that back from co-wrong i think that was pretty good however i do think that um you guys are poo-pooing the billy and Candice Idol
Starting point is 00:22:12 and I just wanted to let the person that wrote it know that we love you we love you we all love you how about the Uno reverse advantage you choose a player and if they vote for you that night
Starting point is 00:22:29 their vote is reversed and counts against them instead I hate it Survivor Uganda yeah and who played it it was actually his name was also
Starting point is 00:22:43 Omer, so that's interesting. Who do you have Uno reverse, though? Here's what I don't know. Who would I have done it? In the moment, probably Drey at because she had an advantage. Anyways, here's why I don't like this.
Starting point is 00:23:00 It's the same issue I had with the last one. How do you reverse a vote? Like when Jeff is reading it, do they say, but the uno, like, because you don't know whose vote is whose when he's reading it. So he goes down and is like, either way. this one that says Omar actually counts as Zach.
Starting point is 00:23:18 It's a little messy to me. I think it was edited out of Survivor Thailand when they voted by by Denver Diva. But I agree. This is not good. There's something Uno that we can do, but I don't know if this is the Uno thing that we do. I feel like knowledge's power
Starting point is 00:23:33 is basically like Uno refers. That's true. Yeah, I see that. Yeah. How about? And this was, according to the poster of this advantage. This was bluffed in South Africa season 7,
Starting point is 00:23:49 which is the Seer advantage. After the votes are cast but before they're read, ask one player who they voted for, and they must truthfully answer. Is that anything? I don't what does it do other than
Starting point is 00:24:07 outs them for the next round if they're not going home? Yeah, it's only usable if you have an idol. I think it's also the old, I think you could modify this a bit. If you, the truth, tell, whatever, what's the Amanda called again? The seer. I think you have to say, okay, before the votes are cast, Brandon Donlin, who are you voting for? And then you say it. And then you have to go vote for that person. And then we still can vote. But I think if it's already been done, who cares? It's only if you have an idol. Like, that's the only purpose. And I don't think
Starting point is 00:24:41 it makes an idol play more exciting, you know? Why? Tell me why that is. Why does it only make sense if you have an idol? Because after the votes have already been cast, but before they're read, the only way to affect anything at that point is to play an idol. So the only possibility for it to impact anything would be to have an idol. That's true. And then it'd be better, it's a better episode if that person is either voted out with their idol or if they just played the idol themselves and like you know. But don't you think it would be interesting if they
Starting point is 00:25:10 revealed it before they even voted? Because then you could change what you're voting. I think we'll probably get to a suggestion that has that because I've seen that talked about a lot. I still don't think it's that exciting, honestly. You know, like you have to announce your vote. You know, I think I know who submitted that, and it is on
Starting point is 00:25:26 this list, and it's Albert from South Pacific. Oh! Albert said that. Speaking of guys to know about Barry Bonds. I love the thing. Say that again? He actually submitted that.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Yeah, yeah. Oh, I believe so. It's further down the list. I remember the name of it because it made me chuckle. But it did make the list. How about this is the downgrading amulet. It starts as an idol and then it downgrades to an extra vote
Starting point is 00:25:56 and then a block of vote as the holders are eliminated. It must be kept secret among all three holders to retain any power. No, I don't like this. Does this mean that there's three active immunity idols off the rip that could all be used at once, hypothetically? I don't like this at all because, well, first of all, yeah, is it one combined or is it three separate ones? Big question. I think it's, I think it's great. You're like forcing people to then work together, which is kind of like, I don't know, the thing that was interesting about the amulet advantage is you could use that to work together or you could use that to target each other.
Starting point is 00:26:35 This really only incentivizes people to work together, but in a way that's not that predictable, let's say you have a newbie season and you're on three different tribes, and then all of a sudden, Brannon and Zach are looking out for each other over all possible, like, rationale. I feel like that's stupid. It doesn't make any sense. Yeah. Another issue with this idol is that it literally has too many idols in the game, because you can't
Starting point is 00:26:58 have any other idols. If you already have three and let's say you have three tribes. St. Surviver 4 is at it. Did they at one? Well, yeah, but they were like time limit. They expired, right? They expired, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:11 What would this site will be named? The downgrading amulet. Yeah, I guess you don't want to you don't want to call it. The Sierra Easton. The Megan Trainor advantage. She's downgrading from stadiums to, you know.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Small event. And she's also getting, she's also gotten so skinny. So there's kind of a double. Sure. Is there a difference between Megan Traynor and Megan the Stalian? No, they're the same person. It's Megan the Stalian is her nickname, but Megan Traynor is her full name.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Stage name. Sure. Got you. Sure. And they're both married to the kid from Spy Kids. That's what I know. They're both married to Daryl Sabara. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:53 The kid from Spy Kids was Malcolm in the middle, no? That's aging Cody Banks, which is a similar film. Oh. But a different one. A movie I like a lot, I'll be honest. How about the shared stakes advantage? Like share? It's share stakes.
Starting point is 00:28:15 That's funny. When we got voted out of Survivor 45, Hannah Rose and I were telling everybody that came back that Drew was related to share for some reason. I haven't, I don't think I've ever said that vote. But that is something that made us laugh for date. days and days. And everybody was like, really? And we said, no, not really. But this is the shared with a D stakes advantage and not stakes that you eat, stakes. It's won by a tribe and activated at their
Starting point is 00:28:42 next tribal council. The player with the most votes is eliminated as normal. The player with the second highest number of votes receives an immunity idol to use it a future tribal council. This creates a dangerous incentive. You take enough votes to earn power, but not enough to go home. Oh, so it is known. Okay. I mean, I guess maybe, but like, are we really fundamental? The thing I don't like about this is, is we're fundamentally changing what the game is, which is to not get any votes. Yeah. I don't like it for a different reason. What's the different reason? Theoretically, the person who gets the second most votes in a given tribal is usually in the majority alliance. So I feel like this just helps the majority, right? Because the minority is going to
Starting point is 00:29:27 get the most votes and then whoever they put their votes on is going to like i think that the issue with this one is you're not going to get like the real fun like oh this person uh risked it and they're rewarded right like you're just going to get people are just going to vote yeah they're splitting the votes for idols then but if you know that's in play you would never split the votes on this round that's true that's true that's true and it would be public it's interesting With a tweak, I think this is good. I just don't know what the tweak. What's the tweak?
Starting point is 00:30:01 Oh. Is the tweak that it's secret? Is it one person? Maybe one person knows, but then we're basically playing a block on the clock tower or goose goose duck. Which? So far with people like that. There was an idea that got submitted that literally it called out, and I'll read it. It is not on the list, but it was a Mario Party reference.
Starting point is 00:30:25 It was Bowser's Revolution, which is, all advantages are collected and randomly distributed. That is not on the list. Isn't that common? My biggest complaint with New Era Survivor is that it's too akin to Mario Party, and that is just making it Mario Party. Or explicitly like, this is now Mario Party.
Starting point is 00:30:45 You don't want that. I think that the fix for this could be to have the top two vote-getters compete in like a fire-making challenge, and the loser goes home and the winner gets an advantage. So then there's a real high risk. Like, people might be more willing to put themselves in.
Starting point is 00:31:04 But there's also, like, the minority, you can save yourself and the minority can still come back from it, you know? Like, there's a chance for it not to go into the majority's hands. I mean, it's not good. It's not good. I hate any Twitter. That's what also people were saying, oh, instead of, you know, the blood moon,
Starting point is 00:31:24 they should have done where the top three votes, vote getters get voted out. But I hate that because then everybody loves the underdogs to supersede that. But any mechanic in which somebody who doesn't get the majority of the votes could go home, I think it's done. I'm at the point now, sorry, Brandon. I'm at the point now where I rate every advantage as is it better or worse than the hourglass?
Starting point is 00:31:48 And if it's better than the hourglass. Well, they're all better than the hourglass. I know, but like the hourglass actually made it on the show. Can you tell us your reaction when you heard about the hourglass? hourglass. Oh yeah, real quick. Lydia was explaining the hourglass to me and I was like, I was like, this girl got so
Starting point is 00:32:05 messed up from this show. She is delusional. And to be fair, she did a very confusing explanation of it, but I was like, she's definitely not explaining this right. Like, this is not correct. And then when I finally, I talked to the producers there, I was like, so what really happened with there? And she was like, well, you already heard it.
Starting point is 00:32:22 I was like, they're going to hate this. Like, I was like, genuinely, this is the worst idea you've ever had. And the specific producer I was talking to was like, well, it wasn't my idea. I'm surprised they even did it after season 40. Like they knew that the reaction was bad from the players after 41, but they kept it. It wasn't as bad for us, but you know, that's like something that these people that you're reading the Google Doc from could have come up with.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Yeah. All of the ideas we've heard have been better than that. Well, I will read one of my favorites that is on this list. that I've been saying for years. And it's the Dwayne the Rock Johnson rock idol, which is a really big rock that works as an immunity idol, but you must discreetly sneak it into tribal council for it to work. I love it.
Starting point is 00:33:11 I love it. It's like the candle, but bigger. It's the candle, but bigger. Sign me up for the rock idol. I think this is funny. How would you do it? How would you get that, like, how big is the rock we're talking? Like, is it?
Starting point is 00:33:25 Sure. We're talking like a this size rock Like something that would be conspicuous I think it has to be protruding from the back Like it has to be it You can't fully disguise it You just have to kind of be It has to the way you get around it
Starting point is 00:33:41 Is like you draw or paint on it When you get the merged stuff And you like I'm like this is my mom She's with me here But then she's really an idol Like that is how you get away with it Yeah Like a Wilson
Starting point is 00:33:55 Yes. Like Wilson. And that's what we should call it, not the Dwayne the Rock Johnson. Yes. It's Wilson. I like it. I've always said, make the idols either comically big or comically small. I think that's, it's funnier.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Make it easy to lose the idol. If it's like a little bead. Mm-hmm. I like it. Yeah, I think it's one to be fun. I like this. And you know what? I think the idol phrases are silly and I think we may be skewed.
Starting point is 00:34:22 We overcorrected with too much silly. This is silly. but I like it. Okay, but on the scale of Francesca's rock that she was supposed to eat to the big boulder, like where are we?
Starting point is 00:34:34 Like the Matthew rock? Like the rock he fell off of? No, no, no. The boulder that you push. The boulder that you push. I think, I don't know, the size of a brick. Yeah, I was going like a headstone,
Starting point is 00:34:49 maybe. It's lighter than a headstone, but it seems. I was thinking like a bowling ball. That was my kind of. Yeah. And like that heavy too. So that like, it's like weird. Could it be the rough? You know, magic eight ball advantage? That would be kind of fun. And then somebody said it back. Yeah, whether it's an idol or not depends on what the giant magic eight ball says.
Starting point is 00:35:11 That'll be fun. Let's let's, and we're, we're breaking. This is what that idol, that, that idea was from actually there was a couple, but I'll read one. Is it's secret knowledge is power. It tells you if a certain chosen player holds an advantage or an idol. is the Rob Cessonino Magic A Fall Advantage. Did not make the list, but we love you. We see you and we love you. Honorable mention. Honorable mention. Also honorable mention, somebody that I recognize from Twitter
Starting point is 00:35:38 and all the kind things they say about me, evil Stephano, his idea was the Benson Boone advantage from Evil Stefano that says, two hot male survivors must make out in order to stay safe from tribal. That was an idea that we got. That's so sexist because that is. another advantage to help keep men in the game.
Starting point is 00:36:00 The fact that the era when there's no more, I thought the new era, there's no more hot man on the show. That's true. Evil Stefano has said that. He said that an awful lot. So I don't know. That's the trick. That's the twist is the make out and it's like sorry you weren't hot enough.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Yeah. Evil Steveno has to fly to Fiji and Judge. Who decides who's hot and who's not? Is it like... I think here. George. It's in that Michael Horan says it's in the hands of the fans. Yeah, reality TV fan posts the headshots and you just go into their quote tweets and it's the ratio.
Starting point is 00:36:38 Oh, evil Stefan, no, we love you. We see when we love you. All right. How about this is the Rikenbach's revenge advantage. The Immunity Challenge winner gives necklace to another player while secretly maintaining their own immunity that round. This is transferable. So you would win this on like a journey.
Starting point is 00:37:00 And the twist is if you win immunity, you can give it to somebody and still have immunity. I think we're in the phase of like lying to the contestants again. And I don't like love that. Yeah. And I think that like the act of giving an immunity necklace is so foreign from Survivor at this point that if someone were to do it,
Starting point is 00:37:23 people would immediately think that there was something up. Now, maybe this is like a weird, fun one to bluff. And I think that there is merit to that to, like, do this if you're just really just trying to play for the second chance versus playing to win. I don't like it as a twist, but I think there is, I'd love to see someone bluff this for no reason.
Starting point is 00:37:42 I like the concept of Rikenback's revenge, though. Like, what can we do with that, you know? Well, you can build a whole season around it. Yeah, that might be 502. We don't know enough right now Eric versus silence. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:37:55 I don't even think it's anybody versus Eric. I think it's Eric's back. We're doing ranking boxes revenge.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Here's Eric and 19 people. A fan to favorite to ghost. And I like that. This is the Probstian Slip advantage.
Starting point is 00:38:12 You give yourself a nickname. And if Jeff calls you by that nickname at any point during his challenge or tribal,
Starting point is 00:38:20 you get an immunity I love it. But it would never work because he's a part of production, but I love it. I think it's a same. How does it does it work? Why would Jeff ever call you a nickname that he wasn't already calling you? Like, how would you would have for it? Yeah, I guess maybe it's in the rules of this fake thing that you can't ask.
Starting point is 00:38:43 But if I just showed up to an immunity challenge and I said I was diesel, like my nickname was diesel. Yeah. But you know what? It doesn't work every time because Zach asked him to call. him squortenberger and he said no. Did I? Did I, Omar? Yeah. You know what? It was, I honestly know why they cut that. It was very inappropriate right after Jackson had been eliminated. Like, I think I should have chosen a better time.
Starting point is 00:39:10 But yeah, that was, that was, I'm glad they added that out. That was a miss on me. How soon was it? Was it right after? It was. He asked me how the game changes now. And I was like, Well, the game changes a lot, Jeff. And then I, it was a planned bit. You know, I didn't choose the right moment. You thought it sounded great. Yeah. And it does sound great.
Starting point is 00:39:32 I don't want to take away from it. It sounds so great. Yeah. How about? I'm sorry. This is, you know, I really like, I'm trying to move on for time. I really like that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:46 I'm going to think about that in bed later. How about? the Meg Ryan, you've got mail advantage. One of my favorite movies of all time. We're in a sweatshirt. You've got mail adjacent. Secretly correspond with someone on another tribe. One note to them, one reply back.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Put this on Survivor tomorrow. It's best I agree. This was on All-Stars, and I quite liked it. Yeah, I like this better on an All-Star season. Yeah. They didn't put it in the episode, the All-Sars. That's a deleted scene. No, but it was a deleted scene.
Starting point is 00:40:20 I like it a lot. I mean, like, what would I write? I'd be like, hey, hey, Chanel, it's me, Zach. If we get to the merge together, let's work together, smiley face. Like, I feel like on a new player season, I really don't think we're going to get all that much from it. Can we post swap on a new be newbie season or returning player season? Returning player season, there's something interesting there. Hey Chanel, it's squartner.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Let's work together. Come merge. I like it. I think that's so fun. Even a new person season. I'm talking to production. I'm like, so has Chanel written her letter back yet? As sheen?
Starting point is 00:41:10 Like, it's been two cycles. She's actually filed a restraining order. She won't look over at me at the mat Weird How about And this is something I can see them putting in From when I grabbed it earlier Wait can I add one more thing to the you got mail
Starting point is 00:41:30 Yeah can I can I write that message and then sign it sincerely omer There is something there There is something I love it Would they allow that? I like it would they allow that You could write whatever you want on it. It's up to the person to authenticate it. Parvety got a letter that had whatever the fuck the J-T
Starting point is 00:41:53 wanted to write in it, so why not? I'm back on this one. I like this idea now. I love it. What about the Winona Ryder shoplifting idol? You could do something with that. When did she show? That was recent, right? No. That was old. No. I might be before you were
Starting point is 00:42:09 in life. When Minotanarider shoplifting? How about this is the hot potato idol? This This idol must change ownership at least once every round to stay active. Oh, I like that a lot. But then people are just going to use it. No?
Starting point is 00:42:26 Say that again? I think you just use it then. So it doesn't keep. They're going to use it, but that's going to cause drama because it might be my idol. And then I hand it to someone else and they use it. And now I'm pissed. So there is something. Because it could it be back and forth thing?
Starting point is 00:42:40 Like I give it to Zach. He gives it back to me. I think so. Okay. Yeah. No, then I like it because then, yes, you're right. If I use it when I took it from you, you'd be pissed. But them's the brakes.
Starting point is 00:42:53 You need it to happen. But there must be a consequence with hot potato if you're holding the potato at the wrong time, you're fucked. So does it eventually turn into vote for yourself or something like that? No. But that is, I agree with the first part of that, which is hot potato does have a con. But there's no ending of the game hot potato. Yeah. If you have the idol and you don't transatlantic.
Starting point is 00:43:14 for ownership by tribal council, the idol is now dead. That would be the punishment. Yes. I feel like it should be more than that because then you could just... Michael Horn in the chat says, what about the hot guy potato idol
Starting point is 00:43:28 that can only change hands between the hot guys? As a hot guy, I think I'm down for this. Who are you passing to? I'm passing it to Roxroy. Sure. Oh, that, we couldn't have had that on our season, but Colby Q and John, Colby Q and Kyle on that one tribe.
Starting point is 00:43:53 And Rizzo, and Rizzo. I'm not going to shade my guy. But yeah, those three could have passed that one. I see the fan cams. I see what people are saying about Rizzo. How about the fish sacrifice idol, activated by sacrificing a large enough fish, favoring fishing, players or forcing reliance on physical players. Do we like this?
Starting point is 00:44:20 Shout out Jonathan. Thanks for submitting. I think this is so crazy of an idea that I almost wanted to be in the show. Is you have to publicly sacrifice a fish? That's horrible. I like the idea of going to the altar with your fish. And Jeff decides if it's big enough or not. Yeah, I do like that too.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Is it alive when you bring it up to the altar? No, must be dead. Let's be humane. You have to, I've already killed that. Okay. Yeah. That's interesting. What about a sea cucumber?
Starting point is 00:44:59 Who can find the biggest sea cucumber? That deserves an idol. Have you seen this? That sounds interesting. They're everywhere. That's a fun journey challenge, I think. Yeah, actually, instead of looking through all those coconuts, you have to find the sea. cucumber with the phoenix on it that would be great right well that's not even ripping them up
Starting point is 00:45:21 they can't plan for that right you just go in the ocean and find your your sea cucumber i like it and actually sea cucumbers avert their stomach so maybe it's hidden inside and you have to get it to puke up its stomach and then find it sure sure sure and i didn't know that until now how about the bounty advantage place a public bounty on a player If someone votes them out, then someone wins an extra vote or steal a vote. Oh, you know what? I love this idea because I thought, this was my idea that I didn't publish anywhere, to be fair. Back in the day with Exile Island, like you had a thing you had to do.
Starting point is 00:46:02 And if you didn't, you have to vote for yourself or you lose your vote. I like it. Put a bounty on somebody. I'm all for a bounty. Yeah, I think this is, I always think about the, is this better for the minority or the majority? and I feel like this is the kind of thing where it's like if someone in the majority gets this they just put it on someone in the minority
Starting point is 00:46:22 easiest vote ever and now they just have like beyond the numbers no but what if you randomly have to pick somebody from a bag like if you accept this advantage you have to get this person voted out and if you don't something bad happens to you and if you do then you win something
Starting point is 00:46:38 so it's only the one player but this has a public bounty so like you're trying to get everyone I like this better if it's the one player has a specific bounty for the episode, but I don't like it if everyone knows, hey, if you vote for Surrey this episode, and also like the other thing you got to think about this advantages is think like, what would happen if it happened to Surrey? And if this happened to Surrey, this would literally be considered the most unfair advantage
Starting point is 00:47:07 of all time, right? Yeah, it's true. Yeah. I'm picturing a big wheel that you spin on the journey. and maybe Ceres is just not on the wheel. We want you to do this to one of your APO. Yeah, it's a magnetic wheel that's predetermined to stop on Danielle D. Lorenzo. Oh.
Starting point is 00:47:26 My dear friend. Yeah, she was great. How about the escape advantage? You can swap to the other tribe when played. I don't know if this is escape adjacent, but you swap to the other tribe when played. Imagine, this person included a testimonial, which I appreciate. Imagine if this was played when you were going to be the vote that night. You get to go to the other tribe.
Starting point is 00:47:47 This was my advantage from earlier in the episode. And it's worse because you can escape tribal right before when you should have to make a decision before the challenge. Yeah, I mean, I like this. I think that this is like one of the gimmey ones that is just... I like it. I think it's fun. I think more mutinies.
Starting point is 00:48:07 I think it should be called the Edward Snowden refugee advantage where you get to or not what's it called where he right he was like a refugee to to Russia we don't know the over under how many Survivor 50 people
Starting point is 00:48:23 know and could tell you specifically what happened to Edward Snowden I don't even know who that is I would say probably about half half's good a little hot Charlie Christian Mike Angelina Camilla, Genevieve.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Emily knows. Emily. I feel like some of the older people would know too. Sure. Coach would pretend to know. Coach knows Edward Snowden. Yeah, Coach knows. He knows him personally.
Starting point is 00:48:58 This is the shout out to Jessica Frey. I do remember that this is yours. The young Sheldon string theory advantage. Before the immunity challenge, players must declare, compete for immunity and forfeit your vote, or skip the challenge and keep your vote. Only the people that skip the challenge get to vote. I like this.
Starting point is 00:49:20 It's a better version of the do or die. Do or die. Yeah, I agree. It's better than do or die, definitely. But you know they'll never do this because they really love people that compete in challenges. What happens if everybody chooses not to vote? Then it's a big wheel. No, they draw rocks.
Starting point is 00:49:41 They draw rocks. That is true they draw rocks. Right. There is the issue of, you might get to an episode where there's literally one person voting, but I think the majority of people would choose to not compete. Sure. Sure. Two times her name's been dropped in this.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Homer's Canadian. He doesn't have to worry about getting tracked down. I do. All right. Next advantage. How about this is the reinforcement. advantage. Select one cast away from another tribe to attend your tribal. They can vote and play advantages but cannot be voted out. I love it. Do it all the time. From another tribe, right? Like,
Starting point is 00:50:20 this is pre-merge? This is pre-merge. Yeah, we love that. And I think that that actually, that twist of somebody from the winning tribe voting on the losing tribe is so good for a returning player season. Because then you can get interactions with people that you weren't going to get. I agree with that. I think it needs to be like an earned advantage. It can't just be something that's found in the forest because otherwise I think this one would feel a little too riggy. More of people having to choose between contributing to their tribe challenge win and going off in the middle of a challenge to find an advantage or an immunity idol.
Starting point is 00:50:56 More of that. Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting to me when they do stuff that really works and they stop doing it. And they keep doing the things that don't work that well. Yeah. That works so great every time. Even when they did it, though, they weren't, you know, Kelly Wentworth is not holding her tribe back by secretly taking the thing, you know?
Starting point is 00:51:16 We want like, you have to fill this whole bin with coconuts, but instead of filling the bin with coconuts, you go look for the idol or take up an advantage. Yeah. I like it. We've got 10 more. All right. How about the sneak peak advantage? You see all the votes before they're read. This can be used to disqualify.
Starting point is 00:51:37 decide whether to play an idol or deceptively flush an idol out. I don't hate it. This is after the votes are cast before they are read. I don't hate it. You get to go into a secret little room. I don't think it's iconic, though. Unless they cancel tribal council, then I think it's interesting. Like that Australian Survivor episode where they had a medevac of the poker lady,
Starting point is 00:52:02 and then they voted, and then the host was like, you can either go back to Kim, and I won't read these votes or we're going to vote another person out. But if they don't vote someone out, then I think it would be super interesting if somebody had control over what those votes were or knowledge of what those votes were. Yeah, the reason I don't like this is I don't think this actually makes for a good TV product at all because I imagine someone goes, use this advantage, they come back, they play an idol on themselves.
Starting point is 00:52:28 There's no surprise. You're sitting there being like, oh, I guess they must have gotten the most votes. Or they come back and they don't play an idol on themselves. You're like, oh, I guess they didn't get the most votes. Like, you just know. Or they don't have an idol, so there's nothing they can do. They just know before everybody else. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:41 I think that this doesn't really do anything. I mean, out for anything, there's not any dialogue that would happen as you're looking at the boats. And I think that hurts it also, because you're not. Well, you can always talk to yourself. People do that all the time. Now, what could make this interesting, by the way, is you can go in and maybe you get to, like, rip one vote up. So it's like a vote block after the fact. You get to like.
Starting point is 00:53:04 But if it's a landslide, who cares? That's a thing, you know? But it has, it's a vote block with the advantage of still getting to see what the votes are. So there is kind of. Actually, now that I think of it, though, there is a rule in Survivor that's like you literally, I thought about what if a tribal council, I'm safe, what if I just vote for myself to, like, throw chaos and see who did it? But in Survivor rules, it says you cannot vote for yourself.
Starting point is 00:53:28 But do you think that the Christian thing breaks the dam and people can do it now or no? No, no. This is a one-time thing. And I don't think they'll ever do it again. it was one time. They lost one of their stars. How about, now this is, similar to what we've already heard, with the tribe swap advantage. Play at any point premurge to either randomly swap tribes or switch somebody from each tribe.
Starting point is 00:53:50 We say that again? You can play this at any point during the premarge to either randomly swap tribes or switch one person from each tribe. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we agree on this one. We love it. Love it. You skipped, by the way, the safety without a say, which says, Because say,
Starting point is 00:54:07 Oh, I didn't. Say hugely. Who we love. Yeah. It says normal idol with the caveat, you have no vote for the person you play it on. You have to vote for the person you play it on. Giving up your vote agency for this immunity.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Yeah, I don't really like that. I don't see why. It's not that helpful. Yeah, it's not that exciting either. To have to vote for it. Did you have to vote for that person? Yeah, I don't know. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:54:34 And we love say. If say if you're listening, we love you. The say, Hughley, save me without say. How about, and this is not an advantage or an idol. This is just a game mechanic. This is the luck pit. At each team challenge, there's a 10 by 10 area of sand where any player at any time can leave the challenge
Starting point is 00:54:55 and dig to find advantages. Yeah. This could be a clue to an idol or an extra vote. Yeah, we agree. I would put one advantage. Yeah, I wouldn't have like hundreds of advantages buried in there. But like maybe one idol, I think could be cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:11 You know, and the challenges are all at different places on the couple islands that they went. So are they transporting the sandbox? They need to just do it at one challenge and have it be. Because the thing is, it's not good in most of the challenges where you have to all be part of it. They really need it for something where, you know, you have to transport 100 bags across the sand. Because then by taking yourself out of it, you're actively hurting your team. Yeah. And not to be that guy again, but I think Australian Survivor did that.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Really? Where it was something like, there were like hundreds of coconuts that were on the shore. And you could like stop working on the challenge or like stop helping on tight knots or whatever to go search through the coconuts. And it was good, but it wasn't crazy. It was interesting. It was. Miles. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Yeah. I saw that clip. I didn't watch that season, but I saw the clip. How about the challenge. sit-out advantage. At the start of an individual immunity challenge, you can force one player of your choosing to sit out. I hate that, but it made me think of a better idea.
Starting point is 00:56:17 I hate it because the only people who need to win immunity are people in the minority. So this would only affect players who really need it and it would just be such a bummer. It would never help really anyone who's already in the minority to like, if you made Jonathan sit out because you're like, oh, Jonathan's going to win this challenge. but he's in the majority, you'd be like, okay, who cares?
Starting point is 00:56:37 And if he was in the minority, it would suck. That being said, I think it would be cool during the tribal stage. If you could choose somebody from the other tribe, you got an advantage to sit out of a said challenge. Agreed. Agreed. I also like the Kevin O'Leary royalty one, where for every challenge you sit out, you get a royalty of an extra vote. Oh, that's interesting. That'll be crazy.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Mr. Wonderful. Mr. Wonderful. This is the Albert from South Pacific Advantage. It's the Penn and Teller reveal advantage. One player at tribal council must cast and reveal their vote in front of everyone before the other players begin voting process. This I like. I like.
Starting point is 00:57:24 I like it a lot. What does it really change? I think if it's a blindside, then, you know, if your vote's crucial, you have to kind of reveal it. or you need to like bluff and vote the way everybody thinks you're going to, but I do like it. Okay. Or if you're really testing someone's loyalty. My worry would be that it would encourage safe gameplay,
Starting point is 00:57:45 but I guess in the world where for that one time where people don't know this exists, it could be kind of cool to put someone in a really tough spot. Obviously, they would have to do it in secret because if I was like, Omer, I'm forcing you to vote right now and reveal your vote, you'd be like, all right, screw you. I'm just going to vote against you then because you don't trust me. would justify it that way. You would need to have this be played in secret. Yeah. I do like it. I think it's a fine. I think it's the best.
Starting point is 00:58:12 If you play it on somebody and then in the voting booth, they get a note that says you must bring this back and show everybody. Oh, so they don't know. I don't like that. I don't like that. I'm like the Simon Cowell. Because the reason I don't like that is because then the discussion, the discussion, the discussion is all wrong. The discussion has already happened and now the votes have already started and now it's kind of like... And if they're the fifth or sixth person
Starting point is 00:58:42 then people have already cast their votes. Not really anything you can do at that point. Yeah, that's fair. I do like the idea of Simon Cowell would be like, I don't like this singer, but you did remind me of a better singer that's somewhere else. I think that's a good move.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Is that what he said to William Hung? He said much meaner things to William Hunt, who is very cheap on cameo. I did look at that. He is a camera. for a club conduct. I think he's like $40. He could have been here.
Starting point is 00:59:12 This is the Why Can't We Be Friends Idol, like this song. Why Can't We Be Friends? Must be played on someone else. If you're the target, you hand it to someone else and convince them to play it on you. No, what are we doing?
Starting point is 00:59:28 What? So I guess in this scenario, if I know that I'm engaged... It's like the reverse Billy Irish Broomerang one because you can't use it on any of this. I don't think anything that restricts who you play the idol on is good. Sure, sure, sure. The groveling, I think, is hard.
Starting point is 00:59:47 I would give you, Omer, the Idol, and then beg you to play it on me, which is interesting. I guess Angelina and Natalie, that would have been a great thing to see, I suppose. Sometimes it works. Yeah, somebody's got to have a good alliance that is going to just do it for you. Right, that's why I don't think it's that exciting. I see that. This is the Missy Elliott, put your thang down, flip it, and reverse it, challenge.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Or advantage, excuse me. I got too carried away by the song. After all the votes are revealed, you nullify the entire tribal and call for a re-vote. All the idols and advantages return to their holders. No. Yeah, how does this, I guess the idea is a lot of these, this is just a different version of the see-the-votes already advantage,
Starting point is 01:00:36 where it only actually helps you if you have an idol already. Yes, then you don't have to worry about playing your idol because you could play this first. But it's kind of useless on its own because if you get voted out after you play it, they're just going to vote you out again. And it's actually easier to vote you out the second time
Starting point is 01:00:52 unless you have an idol, but then, you know. Yeah. If you're an idol, yeah. It's like the super idol. You know, we thought that was stupid for a reason. Mm-hmm. If you're getting voted out and you play this, you're still going to give it out in 30 minutes.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Right. You're not going to. But you know what they really should do is bring that, combine the idols back into a super idol. That is so interesting. Yeah. From 32. Yeah, that was great.
Starting point is 01:01:20 One of those things that worked really well. I didn't do it again. This is the kamikaze advantage. You can't play any unity, but neither can two others. Jeff won't reveal it. He just announces the three people that can't compete. Nope, don't like it.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Same reason as the other cutting someone from a immunity challenge one. Yeah, that's a good point. Kamikaze, a great alliance name. You'd think that would be an alliance name at some point. Eminem's Kamikaze. Sure. Sure. I think, you know, Kamikaze would be like you have to vote for yourself,
Starting point is 01:01:57 but then two other people have to as well. But we don't need to get into that. Although I do like that. I'm going to turn my lights off. real quick, but you can explain it. This is, Omer, the guess the immunity winner advantage. They already did this. Before seeing the challenge, you can pick who wins.
Starting point is 01:02:17 They did this, right? They did this. Cody did this. I was so confused when this was on the sheet that was reviewed by somebody else. I was like, I think I have a faint memory of them doing this. They did this, and you know what? It wasn't interesting. I don't mind it, though.
Starting point is 01:02:33 This is, yeah. Owen, right? Oh, and this was Last Gasp, and Owen won. Yeah, I was last gas, because that's why, like, three or four people were immune at that challenge. Right. Let's call it the Cody, whatever his last name was. Asenbacher. Al-I-V-I-N advantage.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Guest the immunity winner. Doing this, maybe you don't get immunity, but, like, a vote or something. Like, I don't know. Like, you can get on an extra. an extra vote or something. Whatever. It's so funny, if you submitted that, great news, they did it. Maybe you haven't seen the season.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Yes, Jessica, afraid. Choose your champion. That's what it was called. And they did this with Lauren Ashley Beck as well. They did deal with Lauren Ashley, man. And I'm not going to say who put these together. When I find you... And then didn't Nora, didn't Nora like refuse to do that challenge? She refused to...
Starting point is 01:03:30 No, she played. I remember there was one where you had to like choose a... caller, someone to be the caller of a challenge. Oh, that was a different. That was a different thing. Island of idols had so many good ideas that they'll just never revisit. Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:45 And our final advantage, this is the sunset advantage. And it immediately ends the strategy round and sends the tribe to tribal council early. They are limiting time to strategize. They do do that. That's, you know, they dunk on everybody else. It's not on the show. Yeah. I didn't like, I don't like this.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Yeah. It's hard logistically to think how it would work. You just have to put us on lockdown for hours and that'll be safe. Right. This one wouldn't work logistically. Or we're doing tribal council at 3 p.m. Yeah. I think that's interesting.
Starting point is 01:04:19 So. St. But it's like, this is one that like doesn't encourage fun things to happen. Like they're literally going to be like, all right, episode's over. It's the episode over event. I think there should be an advantage where you guarantee yourself. at least five confessionals. It's kind of like a reward steal, you know?
Starting point is 01:04:40 Yeah. You know what else I would like? I would really love, this is not a twist, but this is a challenge idea. Like, it's like the reverse auction where you have to, the immunity challenge is like to win immunity, you have to like give up X, Y, and Z. And how many days are you willing to go without rice for or whatever? Like, that's like a big brother challenge, but I think it would be fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:03 I'm surprised they haven't done that because that is a good idea, I think. How many votes would you wager? One of those. I like it. We have reached the end of our tour. I have the results in front of me. All right.
Starting point is 01:05:18 I'm going to read the top three. I have not scrolled up yet. I wanted to look at what had the least amount of votes. And with two votes out of 1,074 votes, the fish sacrifice idol. Oh, that was better than, like three other ideas. I like the fish sacrifice. You got robbed fish sacrifice. I am upset to see the luck pit, the sandbox. I'm so low at 30 votes. But I will read the top
Starting point is 01:05:45 three. Okay. Number three. Wait, can I, can we guess? I think it's going to be the rock advantage. I think it's going to be the, um, mutiny. The mutiny, but there were a couple that were mutinies. I think they're going to kind of cancel each other out. I think the letter one I liked. I kind of like the hot potato advantage too. That was kind of cool. Yeah. Well, the hot potato is number three.
Starting point is 01:06:10 Oh. You really grew on me. And I'll tell you right now, we didn't love the top two. Oh. Okay. Number two, with 71 votes, the Uno reverse advantage.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Choose a player. If they vote for you that night, their vote is reversed and counts against them It's so stupid. It's stupid. I'm sorry. Forever. Congrats on winning, but it just doesn't.
Starting point is 01:06:39 It didn't even win. Mechanically, it just doesn't make sense. Like, how is Jeff going to do this? He's going to be like, oh, this vote says Omer, but, oh, I guess you flip it and it actually says the other person. That actually would be good. No, I actually, now I like it. But really.
Starting point is 01:06:53 It's kind of good. Yeah, okay, never mind. I'm in. We're in on the unit. But that didn't even win. That was second place. Okay. I will contact you winner to get your team.
Starting point is 01:07:03 T-shirt for the shared stakes advantage. It's won by a tribe. The player with the most votes is eliminated as normal. The player with the second highest number of votes receives a hidden immunity idol. Oh, we hated that one. What's that? We hated that one. I hate that.
Starting point is 01:07:21 I still hate it. Just like American Idol. Sometimes the person or the thing you think was going to win. This is like what Fantasia won. Or when Jennifer Hudson was eliminated. That's what it's like. You know what? I haven't like.
Starting point is 01:07:32 I haven't liked what the fans have voted on all season. So why not add one to the list? Congrats, though. It is cool. It is interesting. And for a different game, I think it could be fun. And also, it's new era survivor. Like, who even cares?
Starting point is 01:07:45 Sure. Sure. Zach, what do you have going on that you want people to check out? Oh, nothing much. I got some new music coming out. But yeah, I just live in the life. Omer. How about yourself?
Starting point is 01:08:01 just living the life in my new apartment. It's a shitty apartment like Courtney's, you know. It's not a shit. I heard everybody that went there loved it. Everybody thought it was great. Yeah, but you know what? Gabby and Franny slept in my bedroom while I sat on the couch and they left the window open. And when I came back, there was a squirrel inside.
Starting point is 01:08:28 I feel like you would like that. no i don't want to squirrel to destroy my house i was afraid a squirrel would be inside when i got home but thankfully there was none oh okay oh so it was a lot yeah did gabby and franny really stay at your place or was that just made up too they did and they left the window open and one of the two i won't reveal who was exiting my vehicle and slammed the door into the car beside me leaving a paint stain on it which was not good but they had alcohol swabs to get it off.
Starting point is 01:09:04 And if you're listening still, one hour and seven minutes in, comment who you think between Gabby and Franny slammed the car door into the Omer's car neighbor and left a paint store. Use hashtag Team Gabby
Starting point is 01:09:18 if you think Gabby slammed the door and hashtag Team Franny. Gabby is spelled with a Y and Franny is spelled with an IE. The chat's saying Gabby. But you tell us differently. Thank you, everybody, for listening. I'm so thrilled that you've got to spend the night with us or your commute wherever you're listening to us.
Starting point is 01:09:39 Thank you for listening and we will talk soon. Take care, everybody. Have it going. Bye. Frozen lasagna, medium power. 15 minutes. Sounds like Ojo time. Let's play.
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