RHAP: We Know Survivor - Why ___ Lost: Survivor 48 Preview

Episode Date: February 21, 2025

Survivor 48 is coming so it’s time for the Why ___ Lost preview as David Bloomberg and Jessica Lewis take a look at all the new players in a focused review of how they predict each will do in terms ...of David’s rules for winning Survivor and in the game overall. Who do they think will do well? Who may be voted out early and why? And who does each choose as the most likely winner? It’s time to find out in the Why ___ Lost Survivor 48 preview!

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Starting point is 00:01:15 This is Carry the Fire. I'm your host, Lisa LaFlamme. Carry the Fire, a podcast by the Princess Margaret Cancer Foundation featuring inspiring personal stories about what happens when world-leading doctors, nurses, researchers, and their patients come together to ignite breakthroughs. Carry the Fire launches Monday, January 27th, wherever you get your podcasts If you lost survivor and you're feeling down David and Jessica will turn it around
Starting point is 00:01:51 They'll break down the rules and we'll show you how you playing yourself and got voted out This is why blank lost And this is why blank lost. And this is Y Blank Lost. Oh baby, this is Y Blank Lost. Welcome back to the Survivor version of Y Blank Lost as we kick things off with our Survivor 48 preview. I'm David Bloomberg and I'm excited to be joined once again by my co-host who I have missed over the past couple months, Jessica Lewis. Well thank you so much David Bloomberg and I've missed you as well. It has been quite some time since we've been able to sit next to each other but so far away from each other in this setting
Starting point is 00:02:41 so it's lovely to be back and very excited to talk about another season of Survivor. Yes, because I know that your favorite thing in the world is predictions. Yeah, we really, yeah, we have to start there, right? Like really, that's what this podcast is. I know. And can I tell you how stressful this whole process is for Jessica because I can never pick the correct winner. My choices of who's going to be voted out first end up winning. So like everything that I do is just completely wrong and we all know this, the butterfly effect in full effect. So just to all of the players that we are about to talk about, I apologize right now. Anything I say, just take it with
Starting point is 00:03:25 a grain of salt because it's not going to work. Anything you say, Canon will be used against you in the court of social media. I'm still like, oh, it's so bad. And then last year I decided, or last season I should say, oh, I'm going to let the Rocks do the talking for me, right? And we all remember how that went. This is who I had Rome. Remember that was who, you know, the rock, uh, though he was, you know, entertaining for a lot of various reasons, not such a great winter pick. Right. So I'm not going to go to the rocks this season. I decided we'll go back to Jessica, just with the butterfly effect. And because honestly, I was so torn. There were so many people that I really wanted to choose.
Starting point is 00:04:09 And I was so afraid that like, maybe I just try. I'll just try. I'll see what happens. I won't put it to rocks. And then I again will apologize to whoever I choose. Okay. Well, for anyone who's a new listener, welcome. For those of you who have listened or watched before,
Starting point is 00:04:27 welcome back. As a reminder to the latter and to bring the former up to speed, once the season starts in a week, we will discuss what each voted out player did right and wrong in terms of rules I originally wrote way back after the first season of Survivor and have been updating ever since.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Speaking of updating, keep your eyes out. There will be, I believe, the plan is for there to be an update to the rules or an article about an update to the rules coming at you soon. So watch for that. But also here, we look at each episode and go back to everything that has led up to it. We take notes through the whole season. We go beyond what's on TV, dive into everything that's available. That's not a spoiler, including interviews,
Starting point is 00:05:20 secret scenes, social media, and more. Yes, and you take a lot more notes than I do, I'll just say. Yes, but you have a better memory than I do. I try. I try to remember. I was going back and I was looking at some of the discussions that we had that I had clipped, some of the discussions with guests over the past few seasons that I had clipped. And some of these I'm going to post in my YouTube shorts and some of them may wait.
Starting point is 00:05:52 But like there was a discussion with Dr. Jeremy Faust who talked about, he said, David takes so many notes and Jessica just remembers everything. And there was an interview with Cassidy. I think it was the first time we talked to Cassidy and she was talking about why people should, especially future players should listen to this podcast. And so just, you know, I've had all these stored up
Starting point is 00:06:17 and I didn't know what to do with them. So I'm gonna try and put them out there. Well, that'd be great. Yeah, I like that. I do wanna emphasize though, there is a ton of work that goes into this particular podcast. And I can appreciate all of the note taking that you do take because there's a lot of content, right? There's a lot of things that has been that are, you know, things that are
Starting point is 00:06:39 being released and put out through so many outlets and media. So thank you to especially Rob as a podcast for all of the things they do. But then there's always Twitter and there's and Blue Sky. And so there's so many places that we can gather information from and try to figure it all out for you. Yeah. And speaking of which, by now,
Starting point is 00:07:01 everyone has probably had time to listen to Mike Bloom's interviews here on RHAP or read them in Parade, plus the other information that's out there about the players. So our goal here is not to rehash all of that, is to spend a few minutes. We have a target here in mind. We won't hit that target because we never do, but we have a target in mind. And we're going to pick out the highlights or the lowlights that tell us something about how the person will play the game, especially in relation to my rules. Which by the way, let's just talk about your background
Starting point is 00:07:38 for two seconds. I mean, come on, look at that. It's beautiful. Yeah, well, you should at that. It's beautiful. Yeah, yeah. Well, you should know you helped create it. You know, you commissioned the creation of it. So I just might have. That's right.
Starting point is 00:07:55 So yes, we'll see how this background screen thing works out if I start to disappear into it. And anyway, with the podcast, yeah, we will pick who we think will do the best and the worst. And as a reminder, you know, four seasons ago, someone on this podcast got the correct winner prediction. Yeah, let's rub that in, let's rub that in. It wasn't me, everyone, in case you were wondering.
Starting point is 00:08:21 It certainly wasn't Jessica. Yeah, did not happen. But yeah, as Jessica has already mentioned, listeners and especially any contestants tuning in should remember we're basing almost everything we'll be discussing off a relatively small amount of information. So if we say it sounds like someone's game
Starting point is 00:08:40 is going to end up terrible, I mean, very occasionally we don't get it right. Like last season, we were both just a little bit off with our prediction of how Rachel would do. I'm so sorry, Rachel. So yeah, there's the off, off chance that we could be wrong. Yes, and Rachel was so kind and funny about the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:09:06 A little reminder of how our predictions went with Rachel when she was like, oh, look at that. Isn't that crazy? But yes, so congrats to Rachel for proving us both wrong. Yes, and now she's going to be podcasting with Jeff for a season. That's fantastic. Yeah. Great for her. Now, before we get into discussions of the rules and how we think, or the players,
Starting point is 00:09:31 and how we think they'll do with the rules, I wanted to pass along a post that I got from Wen298 on Blue Sky, talking about how listening to this podcast in general, the podcast agenda, not this particular one, makes them scream at their TV even louder when players say or do dumb things. And I just wanted to say, that warms my heart and it means we are accomplishing our goals here. That's hysterical. I know you don't, I can say this this too when you're watching an episode of survivor and somebody drops a phrase
Starting point is 00:10:06 That is a very Bloomberg phrase. I Just sit there and I giggle to myself because I know you're like madly taking that down and like ha ha ha ha Look at that. Yes You have affected so many players well one player who affected you is players. Well, one player who affected you is going to be joining us soon. I wanted to mention this now because I know some people don't quite get all the way to the end when we make some of
Starting point is 00:10:33 these announcements. Yes. We are going to have more guests than ever this season. And it will start in week one with someone who saved Jessica with an immunity idol. Yes. My man, my other David, right? Yes. Yes. Your other David Wright. Exactly. And the reason for the David, you're right sound as well. So yes. So yes, David Wright will be here and I'm very excited that he'll be joining us.
Starting point is 00:11:06 He is lovely and yes, he did save me with an idol. So lots of reasons to love David Wright for sure. So just wanted to mention that. And like I said, we will have guests, you know, some of the people that you have, you know, gotten to love on the podcast or already loved before they came on the podcast, some of our regulars and some people who haven't been on before. So it'll be a good one.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Yes. With that, let's get started. We're going to go through each tribe alphabetically by first name. So we will start with the Siva tribe who wears orange. Okay. It's gonna be so awesome. And we will begin with Charity.
Starting point is 00:11:50 She is 34, a flight attendant and fitness coach from Michigan now in Florida. She lost a hundred pounds 10 years ago, and she also started watching about that same timeframe while in ministry school. So, I like this aspect of her that the weight loss, some people may know about, well, I guess it's about 12 or more years now,
Starting point is 00:12:18 ago, I lost about 90 pounds. Now, I put some of that back on, let's be honest. But, so I know how difficult it is if some people have seen I occasionally will post a picture of me and Richard Hatch or me and very young Rob Sestrnino, you can see the difference. I mean, besides the fact that I had more hair, no beard, you know, and the hair that I did have was not the same color. You were 12 years younger.
Starting point is 00:12:46 There's so many things. Yeah, exactly. Well, with Rob, it was much earlier than that. Oh yes, that's true. So, but getting back to Charity, she said, being a flight attendant, I deal with hundreds of people and personalities every day. My job is like playing survivor in a metal tube.
Starting point is 00:13:04 I just hope they don't vote someone out each flight. That would be terrible. Get out of the plane. Bye. Yeah. Yeah, she is. She's she has a fantastic effervescence. Right. Like there's just something about her that just kind of comes across.
Starting point is 00:13:22 And I know another player in particular who's on this tribe said, I would do anything. I would do anything that she wanted me to do. Just look at her smile and her eyes and the way she lights up. And I just really think that she is going to have a presence and whether or not that's going to be good or bad, I guess is yet to be seen. Because sometimes people that have a presence can be seen as very threatening. But I do think that her work as a flight attendant is a really great analogy to what she would have to do in Survivor because you have to be friendly and you have to interact with
Starting point is 00:14:02 people that you've never met before and you have to make them feel very comfortable and important and significant and take care of their needs. So I think that in and of itself is going to be a huge step up for her as far as the game is concerned because I think she's going to come in with an ability to already interact with people in a way that might be uncomfortable for some people in a similar situation. Yeah. and you know, it's interesting because she talked about her charisma. Like you said, she showed her charisma and all of that sounds good in terms of getting along
Starting point is 00:14:32 with the other players. Yes. But what it doesn't do is tell me how she's gonna use it to get to the end. Yeah, and she did a lot of talking about Tony and like Russell Hands, I think was another one as well, who are very, you know, these are big players and these are I think was another one as well, who are very, you know, these are big players and these are people that have a presence as well. And,
Starting point is 00:14:50 and it worked for Tony when he won, it didn't work for Tony the second time he, he played. And so, and we've seen, you know, Russell hands as well. And, and so it's, it'll be an interesting mix and combination to see how that's going to, how she's going to make that her game ultimately is,'s going to make that her game ultimately is can she take that social ability and carry it into her game well enough to make it work in the same way that Tony ended up making it work. I'm not sure. Yeah. I mean, she said I will go for anything I can. I will volunteer for whatever I can home run every time swinging for the fences. Let's go all out because if I get voted out
Starting point is 00:15:24 knowing I played this way, I will be at peace. And that's the part that worries me because anytime someone talks about how if they get voted out, they'll be at peace. They just shouldn't be playing in a way that will get them voted out. You know, you shouldn't be at peace with getting voted out. Sure. But if you are, if your stylistic gameplay is after a Russell Hanson and a Tony, that's where it, that's a very difficult way to play this game and still manage to get to the end. So that's, I don't know, it's going to be interesting for sure.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Right, and the thing about, you know, she said swinging for the fences and she also said home run every time. Well, anyone knows the baseball players who swing for the fences every swing do not get a home run every time. Quite often, the home run leaders are also the strikeout leaders. Yeah. You know, you have to balance the two. And so, you know, you can't expect to hit a home run every time, is what I'm saying. Right, but I do think that she's also in a place
Starting point is 00:16:31 where there might be other people on the tribe that are going to help keep her where she is because they wanna work with her too, at least she's had some type of a connection or an effect at Ponderosa with them. So that could certainly work to her benefit. Okay, all right, well, that could certainly work to her benefit. Okay. All right, well, we can move on to Chrissy.
Starting point is 00:16:49 She is 55. Wait, and just one more thing. Okay. You should definitely do what she suggested and you should Google Shaq holding a water bottle. I'm just saying it was quite fun. Okay. I did not do that, so.
Starting point is 00:17:00 I did. I was like, I'm gonna take her up on this and it did make me feel better, so. Whenever someone tells me to Google something, I always worry about it because you just never know what's going to come. That is true. But I know, I know who Shaq is. I know water models. So I'm like, okay, we're just, it was, it was a safe Google and it was funny. All right. So like I said, Chrissy, 55, the oldest player this season. She is a fire lieutenant from the South side of Chicago. I like that she didn't just say Chicago. She specified the South side of Chicago.
Starting point is 00:17:32 She said, I already know I'm the older person. I never felt like the older person, but I guess I am the older person. Chrissy, welcome to my world. Also, some other things that, you know, not that this is the David Heaven Common show, but her favorite hobbies, working out. She said, I love cardio, but I also like to eat junk food.
Starting point is 00:17:56 So it equals out. Yeah, I'm right there with you again. You know? Me too, but I don't really love cardio. So I guess I just like the junk food. Yeah, I do the cardio to eat the junk food, I guess, which is not really a good thing to do. I'm just saying, don't do that, you know, but I do.
Starting point is 00:18:15 She's been watching Survivor since the start, but she didn't go back and rewatch. And she has this very interesting view of superfans. She said, I hate to say this, I don't like super fans. I don't think super fans make the game better. I don't think people practicing in their basement makes this game better. I think coming out and challenging yourself
Starting point is 00:18:34 and not knowing what to expect, then knowing the puzzle is going to be on here and I could do it with my eyes closed. It's sort of cheating to me. I agree. No, no to me. I agree. No, no. No, I do. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Survivor is not just a TV show. It is a game for a million dollars. And as much as I like Chrissy overall, I'm sorry, this is a terrible take. It's like saying, well, I'm an athlete and I wanna go to the Olympics, but I'm not gonna practice. I wanna challenge myself during tryouts. I'm going athlete and I want to go to the Olympics, but I'm not going to practice. I want to challenge myself during tryouts.
Starting point is 00:19:06 I'm going to disagree. I'm going to that I do not believe that's what she was necessarily indicating. Here's my take on it. And I think Chrissy is fabulous. I am so excited. And the fact that this woman talked about carrying a 65 pound, you know, equipment on her back,
Starting point is 00:19:24 going through like fires, just incredible. And everybody loves Christie. I just want to say that to you. So many people were talking about her in their pregame interviews. But what I think is such an interesting take, and this is something that we've talked about a lot, the fact that like survivors kind of taken a little bit of a of a shift, if you will, into more of a game show versus just like it's a it's a competition for a million dollars where they are repeating puzzles that have been done on previous seasons, which are allowing people to study and learn the puzzles. I think before I analogize it to like Plinko, like you know where to put the little disc
Starting point is 00:20:07 because you've seen Plinko a million times and you know where it's gonna potentially or maybe fall. And that part of it, I agree with her sentiment. Like I miss the fact that there are portions of survivor that are just unknown. There used to be a survivor time when every challenge was completely different because they were in a different place doing different things. And so they weren't repeating challenges. And so now we've
Starting point is 00:20:29 gotten to this point where people are like, Oh yeah, no, I practiced that one because I bought the puzzle and I know how to do it. And I understand there is a preparation that should be involved in survivor. I don't get me wrong. You should actually do some things. She didn't do much to prepare, which I will acknowledge that. But I can understand that sentiment where it's like, I don't know if you should really get to do that. But then the sentiment should be aimed at the production,
Starting point is 00:20:56 not at the players. Oh, yes, and I would agree that too. She is blaming the super fans for production repeating things. Okay, and then I can give you that. Yes. Like I'm saying, it's like saying that players shouldn't do batting practice in baseball. And it's like, no, I know there's going to be a pitcher there. I know he's going to be throwing me fastballs and curveballs.
Starting point is 00:21:16 I need to practice hitting them. If if you're a pitcher and you want to fool a batter who has been to bat in practice, then you have to do something other than what he expects. And so it is on production. If she wanted to criticize production for repeating things, then criticize production. Don't criticize the super fan. And that's fair.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Okay. And that's fair. I can see that distinguishing component there. Yes. I do think that production needs to stop repeating puzzles because I do think that it is leaning down a path that we just shouldn't be going down. It should be, everything should be fresh and new and you haven't seen it before. Switch it up a little bit.
Starting point is 00:21:54 It's fine, that's okay. People don't need to see this anymore. They spend all their money on new tribal council sets instead of new puzzles. It's ridiculous. I don't know, I think it's ridiculous. But so Chrissy said, this made me laugh. Just from what I noticed, I think alliances are the way to go.
Starting point is 00:22:12 And they might not last and you make different alliances. But I think always trying to make that connection with somebody, even if it only lasts one vote, and then you make a connection with somebody else, I think that seems to be the best way to go. And it's just like, yes, Chrissy, you're right. But it seemed like she was having this light bulb moment. Yeah. And it's literally, rule one, you know?
Starting point is 00:22:39 But I really get the sense that Chrissy is someone who is kind of like no-nonsense. Like she's like, yeah, I'm just going to get in there. I'm going to do it. Whatever. Like that's I'm going to deal with it. It's going to be fine. I'm not going to complain. I'm not going to whine. I will I will take what is thrown at me and I will handle it. And I do think that her she talked about or compared it to like going
Starting point is 00:23:01 when she goes to a fire and she has to put her life in the hands of people that she might not even know because there might be firefighters she's never met before that are that are there that she's working with and that so she's going to practice putting out fires because that wouldn't be fair. No but I do think that there's a lot to be said about being able to to form a quick like bond and trust with someone in that way. And so she's probably got a really good ability to formulate bonds like that. And it sounds like she does based on what she said. So I think that she's really going to be like kind of like no nonsense.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Like she's not going to put up with any, any crap. I really don't think. And, and I just think that she's, And I can understand that. That can definitely go down into an area that could get her in trouble. So I'm fascinated by her just because there is that very just like kind of this is who I am and this is what I'm going to do. But people seem to really like her at least pregame. Pregame. Yes. Before she has started talking and I'm not saying that they won't afterwards. like her at least pregame. Yeah, pregame. Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Before she has started talking. And I'm not saying that they won't afterwards. I'm just saying, you know, if you are right in your read of her, that worries me. Some other things she said, I can't wait to look for idols, but it's a beware. And so you really have to be careful. It's really a mind bleep. But then she admits she'd pick it up because you'd be an idiot to throw it away. As far as talking to people,
Starting point is 00:24:32 she says that she could talk to anybody. She has this demeanor where she can connect with people and she's hoping she can connect with them and then stab them in the back, which is the best part. Now, I like Chrissy for a lot of reasons that some of which have little to do with the game. She's the older player. She's from Chicago. I mentioned some other things we have in common. I worry that her anti-super fandom is going to impact the way she plays the
Starting point is 00:24:59 game in that she will not be fully prepared for everything that hits her. Like that is the concern I do have, yes. Like, is it cheating if someone practiced fire making and therefore can start a fire when they first get there? Is she gonna roll her eyes if someone jumps out to do the puzzle because they've done it before? I don't know. And that's where she worries me or I worry for her.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Let me put it that way. Well, David really wants to work with her and David seems to be someone who is not necessarily that knowledgeable about survivors. So maybe they can hang out together and share their, that would be an interesting mix, those two for sure. Yes. Maybe they can hang out together and share their... That would be an interesting mix, those two for sure. Yes. and get up to $75 in PC Optimum Points. Visit superstore.ca to get started. Bet MGM is an official sports betting partner
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Starting point is 00:30:14 because he hasn't watched Survivor in decades as of when he applied. He's caught up since then, which we know because he mentioned it and he said he's been compared to Jonathan and he wouldn't even know who Jonathan was if he hadn't caught up. He's not afraid to show how physically strong he is, which looking at his arms and his pictures, he has his arms crossed. It's a good thing he's not afraid because I don't know how you cover that up other than like with
Starting point is 00:30:39 a big puffy coat or something like that. Now, this should help him in an early tribal phase, but probably not so much around merge time. Well, and he acknowledges that he at least is aware that he's probably like a likely merge boot. So he's trying to figure out the best mechanism by which to avoid being the murdered boot. So he at least did figure that out in his very quick watching of the multiple seasons of Survivor in a very short amount of time. Yeah, he says he's an arrogant a-hole at times,
Starting point is 00:31:16 which obviously is not part of staying around. And some people, he said, some people might say his arrogance or confidence could get him in trouble, but he thinks it's better to be too confident than humble. He said some people might say his arrogance or confidence could get him in trouble, but he thinks it's better to be too confident than humble. Maybe. But he also knows there's no way he's going to fly under the radar. He can't fit under the radar.
Starting point is 00:31:37 So that was great. So what he's going to do to offset that is he said, just be kind. People will know he's a physical threat, physical threat. So he's going to downplay his social abilities or downplay his puzzle solving abilities, but especially he's going to be kind and hopefully establishing friendships that will take him beyond the merge. I really liked the kind component because I do think that he's clearly had an impact in pregame because everyone is talking about him including...
Starting point is 00:32:12 He kind of stands out. He kind of does, right? Captain America, Giga Chad, I think was one of the names that was utilized by someone who was on his tribe as well. So he certainly has been noticed. And so I think if he can soften that image of himself by being kind, I think that's going to go a long way for him. He's certainly going to be someone that they're going to want to keep around up until the marriage for obvious reasons. And I would anticipate that that's likely going to be what happens. But I also do worry about that arrogance, about the overconfidence. I mean, I think that sometimes people can put parts of themselves in boxes and tamp things down a little bit. Will he be able to?
Starting point is 00:32:56 I don't know if he will because his life sounds pretty incredible and the things that he's done and decided, I'm just going to be a pilot, I'm going to travel, I'm just go around the world, do whatever. I mean, all of these things, you have to have a pretty strong personality and confidence to be able to do and put yourself in those situations. I don't know if he's really going to be able to reel it in as much as he's going to need to, but maybe he will. Maybe he will.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Yeah. And like you mentioned, he seemed to like Chrissy in the pregame. So, you know, maybe they'll team up. I'll have more thoughts on that when we get to the end of the tribe. So next up is Camilla. And she is a 31-year-old software engineer from Toronto. She started watching Survivor when she was young, partway through Amazon just before
Starting point is 00:33:47 the Jenna and Heidi peanut butter and chocolate moment. She dropped off for a while, but then came back to watch Tony win the first time. Now, before I read anything about her or listened to or watched, I already liked her a lot from some of her answers that were posted on social media, where like she said, not all software engineers are smart. She said she's not going to tell people she's a software engineer because there's this image, but they're not all smart. And then she joked about it on social media. And I knew that my son, the software engineer, would agree with this. And so I confirmed with him. And yes, he does have the
Starting point is 00:34:26 same opinion, which I let Camilla know. She says she used to think she was logical, but then after working with a bunch of software engineers, she realized not so much. She's actually emotional. She also said people usually underestimate me and I think that's kind of what Erica talked about in the beginning where she was like even at my job no one listens to me I'm a 30-something year old and I'm very senior but I walk into a room and I don't get the respect I deserve because she's short various very childish face and that's the kind of stuff I deal with too but okay it's not that great in the real world,
Starting point is 00:35:05 but in a game like Survivor, that is a great thing to have. I can run around and do bleep and people don't think I'm threatening. I'm very unassuming. I can get away with bleep. Yeah. And I do think the way that the game is going now, having that unassuming quality really can carry you very far, which is why those individuals that stand out in pregame, I was curious how they're going to end up necessarily doing in the game because they've already drawn so much attention to themselves. And I don't think that she's in that same situation. There might've been like one person that might have described her, but I think it was mostly just because of her stature. So I think that she is,
Starting point is 00:35:50 the one concern I have for Camilla is she does kind of like this, and she talks very fast and she, quick sentences, and she's worried that she might necessarily say too much too quick and not maintain that part of herself. But you know who said that last season in the pre-season?
Starting point is 00:36:12 Rachel. Don't remember. Oh! That was one reason she said she needed someone to reel her in or something to that effect. And that was one reason we did not pick Rachel to win. We know, yes, we know how that went. So hey, congrats, Camilla. Things are looking up for you.
Starting point is 00:36:29 This is great. Yeah, but I do think that she's definitely someone who, once they get out on the island, I think she is going to make an impression because she seems to have that quality about her. And I don't know if she's necessarily going to be able to be unassuming once she's surrounded by people, if that's the part that comes out. But she, yeah, she's um,
Starting point is 00:36:55 I'm intrigued. I'm very intrigued because I'm always curious how that balance is going to come out when they start playing the game. Yeah, I believe I didn't write this down, but if my memory is correct, she also said something on social media. I hope I'm not confusing her with someone else. That she said she believes the other players would overlook her, like literally. They're up here and she's down here
Starting point is 00:37:15 and they'll just look over her and forget she's there. She has like five, one, right? Yeah, yeah. So another thing she said was, I don't listen to podcasts about Survivor. Grrr. She said, I just read all the transcripts because I'm like, I can't.
Starting point is 00:37:32 This is too slow. Just let me read it faster. Now, I don't know if there are transcripts of this podcast out there. Maybe there are. Maybe that's something, who knows? Maybe you can have chat GPT say, make me a transcript of the wide broad box. You probably can. I don't know that, who knows, maybe you can have chat GPT say, make me a transcript of the wide broad laws.
Starting point is 00:37:45 You probably can. I don't know that, you know, we get that counted as a view or a listen though. So don't do that. But I was going to say what Rob actually already said, which is just listen at 3X. Yeah, that's true too. However, I also understand what she's saying
Starting point is 00:38:01 because there are certain things that are available in writing or podcasts and I will often Read them instead because I can do that quicker even than going through a pop. So yeah, I I do I get it Yeah, but she still should listen She should yeah agreed now one thing that Camilla said is I don't want any of this tribe strong thing I want it to be very fluid. I don't want there to be very strict alliances. That could be interesting.
Starting point is 00:38:31 And it'll really depend on the overall thinking of the players. You know, I'm not sure she can, she alone can make that happen. Yeah. Well, I think that she's going to find herself in an interesting spot just because of the other people that she's wanting to work with, which seems to be David and Charity. So she's already looking at a potential numbers thing, right? If they are interested in working with her as well. And so I think that that idea of fluidity now with the way that the game is being played is much more possible, but it's also very difficult when you are in a six person track,
Starting point is 00:39:12 which we've talked about before. Like that becomes very hard because the numbers are just so small. Yeah. She also does not like Boston Rob. I just want to throw that out there. Yeah, there are like seems to be a lot of Boston Robb. There's like two people who really don't like Boston Robb. And then one woman who's having sex dreams about Boston Robb.
Starting point is 00:39:34 I know. So we've got the two opposite sides here. There is a range. I'm nervous if Camilla comes in contact with, I have to remember what her name was. I don't remember who it was. That was not a strategy high point that I put that I took down as a note. No, but now I have to remember. Oh, where's my other? I see I have all of my. Yeah. Well, while you look for that, I'm going to mention that one thing that I liked that she said was, I don't need big moves. I need to make smart moves because big moves get you.
Starting point is 00:40:11 She said people have big move-itis and then do it too early and get sent home. So maybe she has been listening to this podcast. I think I love that too. Not big move-itis. It's Bianca, by the way. I just had her picture. Their picture was covered by Bianca.
Starting point is 00:40:29 So if those two don't mention Boston Robb to Camilla, because that's a no no. All right. Well, we can move on unless you have anything else to Kyle. He is 31. He's an attorney from Virginia, now in Brooklyn, but he's going to say he's a teacher, which he did for a couple years before law school. He started watching with survivor winners at war, which is an interesting way to start, and then went back and watched prior seasons afterwards. He says his biggest superpower is charm and that he hates using it, but he does love people.
Starting point is 00:41:09 He could be persuasive and he thinks people see that he's genuinely interested in them. So he wants to connect with people and then build a foundation to play the game. So this is the social game that we're talking about, not just being friendly, but using it as a foundation. Yeah. He seems very cookie cutter how to play Survivor.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Like in a perfect world, like you would want Kyle to be the player. The way that he describes the game he wants to play, the way that he perceives himself playing the game. And so I don't know if it's necessarily going to, the game he wants to play, the way that he perceives himself playing the game. And so I don't know if it, if it's necessarily going to, if he's going to be able to pull that off because everything he's saying, I'm listening to it and I'm reading, I'm going, yeah, that, that makes sense. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:55 That's something that you should probably do. I agree with that. Yeah. And then I'm like, but wait, he can't possibly do all of those things. It just, because it's, it, because it's almost like he found like the perfect balance and maybe he really will go out there and have that perfect balance. But I just thought it was, there was something like,
Starting point is 00:42:12 I was concerned I think in, because it really sounded like if you were to describe how to play Survivor, read what Kyle was saying about how he wants to play the game of Survivor. And then I'm, and so I don't know if it's necessarily going to be Kyle playing Survivor, is it going to be Kyle's idea of how you're supposed to play Survivor? If that makes sense. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:34 And if he comes in and his ideas are too preset, then he could be in trouble. If he comes in and says, these are the ideas I have, and he's able to maneuver it, then he'll be good. Like he says, I can't just come out here and make a move. You need people as the foundation. And he also showed good insight into other games. Like he said, when 45 and 46 were being played, even 44, they all acted like it was this voting block sort of game,
Starting point is 00:43:04 but it wasn't. You have the Reba four, you have the Tika three, you have Charlie and Maria, um, or you have the goat four. He says, uh, you know, those are not voting blocks. Those are people who actually trust each other. And this is something we said, you know, in games that look fluid, oftentimes they are not. There is a core alliance there that is controlling things. Now he's seen that he recognized that.
Starting point is 00:43:34 Will he be able to do it? Can he pull it off in the game? Yeah. Now his hot take was about your season. And he said that while he agrees Adam was a good player, he was perhaps fourth best. Now, there's a lot of details that would take a long time. How about justice for Jessica? Can we just say that?
Starting point is 00:43:57 Well, I mean, yes, but did he say anything about you? No, he said justice for someone else. It wasn't just for Jessica. And I'm just Kyle. Come on. Yeah. Now, I don't think Kyle exactly got a full picture of the season from the edit without going into too many details.
Starting point is 00:44:18 But also that I want to say part of being a good player is getting to the end. So you can point to any season and say, well, this person was better or that person was better. And it's a debate that goes on all the time on social media. So it is the best player didn't win. Well, if they were the best player, how they get knocked out, you know? And sometimes, yes, sometimes there can be a fluke. Sometimes, you know, it does happen.
Starting point is 00:44:47 But if other people know that a certain person will be perceived as better at the end and they're taken out because of it, well, then they weren't better because they did not manage their own threat level. Yes. And that's not an insult to the other players. And, you know, I mean, our first guest, his name was often repeated as if you don't get him out, you don't get David
Starting point is 00:45:15 out, he's going to win the game. Right. And so you could say, well, David was a better player than Adam. Or you could say Adam was a better player because he knew to keep David in front of him as a shield. Right. And knew to get him out when he got him out. Yes. Exactly. So yeah, Kyle also does not like Boston Robb. So there is that little connection there between he and Camilla. So maybe they can kvetch about Boston Robb together, which I also just to say, Kyle, who doesn't like Boston Robb,
Starting point is 00:45:47 there was another Boston Robb reference when he was having a conversation with Michelle and reminding her when she had been talking to Boston Robb on season 40 and how people were saying she wasn't like the best winner and she shouldn't have won. And Boston Rob was like, but you won. Right. That's it. Like, that's all that me like you actually won. So I don't know. I mean, I think there, I can understand some of the Boston Rob commentary for
Starting point is 00:46:16 sure, but I just want to throw that out there that, you know, Boston Rob was, was someone who was speaking just about that Kyle, that sometimes, uh sometimes the right person does actually win the game. So one more thing to say about Kyle before we move on is he already followed me on social media, but he does need to get on Blue Sky. So. Oh, okay. Yeah. You got to get on Blue Sky. Yep. All right. We will move on to Mitch. We need to, we're not, I knew we wouldn't hit our target, but we're already not hitting our target. We're only in the first five. So.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Hey there everybody. He is a 34 in elementary school, PE coach from Waco, Texas. He is the first survivor player with a speech impediment and is also a marathon and Ironman competitor. Those things have nothing to do with one another. It's just rattling off backs. I like his attitude when he said, this is a game for a million dollars.
Starting point is 00:47:15 He said, it's great to build relationships, but at the end of the day, you're playing for yourself. These people don't care about you. We're out here to play a game. I'm sure once we leave Fiji, we're all gonna hang out and stuff, but right here, these people are in between you and a million dollars. So yes, remember that. Yes. Win a million dollars. That's got to be the goal. I also think is the fact that he was, you know, he was talking about Todd winning China. I was like, I thought, I thought
Starting point is 00:47:40 Todd was a great winner. Uh, so, you know, I mean, I... So I appreciate his take on Todd as well, because Todd really had a great approach to the game, and, you know, and his reasons for taking the other two people to the final three that he brought with them really made sense, and I've always been impressed with Todd. So I support you, Mitch, on that thought process. Yeah, now, is... A couple of other players he mentioned, maybe not so much, I support you, Mitch, on that thought process.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Couple of other players he mentioned, maybe not so much, because I think he made a lot of people cringe when he said, I resonate with Spencer Bledsoe and Joe Anglem. I suspect he does not know what those two both turned into after the game. And also amusingly, one of his pet peeves is people who always have to be right.
Starting point is 00:48:25 And I'm sure both of them definitely think they are right. And let me tell you, Joe Anglem, he is really right. Right. Yeah. So anyway, Mitch also, he follows me on Instagram, of all places. So, you know. Just building your social following. Yes. So, you know, we'll see how we go there.
Starting point is 00:48:53 So do you have anything else to add for Mitch? Or should we go to the tribal? What I do think is gonna be great about Mitch is he does really have a particular type of drive about him because I think he's had to deal with a lot of adversity throughout his life. And so I do think that that's going to put him in a great place in this game
Starting point is 00:49:11 because the little things are not gonna get to him. He's really gonna be able to work through challenges, I think, very well. And the fact that he is so physical, I mean, he's done, I don't even know how many marathons at this point. But so I think overall, he's probably going to be in a really great position for his tribe. And I'm pretty sure David was eyeballing him too, as someone that
Starting point is 00:49:32 he wants to work with. So I see, we start talking about the tribe now, because I look at this tribe and I see so many potential connections and relationships forming. I'm very, very much in love with this tribe. I really am. I think that this is going to be a great tribe. So yes, we can definitely, we can chat about the tribe if you like as a whole. So I mean, we both foresee Chrissy and David working together. I feel like others will want to keep David early, which could help Chrissy or could hurt Chrissy. I worry about Charity and her swing for the fences mentality.
Starting point is 00:50:12 I also worry about Kyle a bit, for some of the reasons you mentioned. But the more I look at this tribe, the more I think Chrissy is in danger. I just- You think so? I do. Even though, even if she's with
Starting point is 00:50:26 David, I think the others may say, well, we want David to ourselves. You know, we don't want him hanging out with her. And I worry that some of her attitude that at least came across in interviews may come across in the game. Now, again, she could completely surprise us and I hope that she does, but I think she's gonna go out first. And then I think if Camilla or Kyle can make it to merge,
Starting point is 00:50:57 they have a good shot of going far, especially Camilla with the way she described playing as someone who won't be seen as a threat. Wow, yes, see I am not with you on that. I think that David is going to scoop Chrissy up. I think that he, this won't be a fight for David. I think David is going to have his pick because David is going to be in its situation at the start of this game because you've got Camilla who wants to work with him. You've got I think also was it Kyle that might have mentioned him as well. I mean and I just feel like David is going to be kind of surrounded
Starting point is 00:51:38 by people that are like we need David because David's going to keep us away from tribal council. One of the things that Kyle said that I thought was very interesting, Kyle wants to go to tribal council because he I'm pretty sure he was the one that was talking about like wanting to not go into the merge of the numbers if I'm remembering correctly. So I I am I've struggled a lot with where this is all going to necessarily fall. And I keep coming back to Kyle being in a situation where I don't know if anyone will necessarily be fighting for Kyle or if he will be in a position that he will want to fight for someone. Because I see so many other people like David is looking at Christy, David is looking at Mitch and Camilla is looking at David and Camilla is looking at Christy or excuse me
Starting point is 00:52:36 at Charity and so like I feel like that's where the group is going to really like formulate. It's going to be about those people that made those initial like, yes, that's the person I want to work with. And knowing that David is so, he's not the survivor fandom, he's not the super fan, he's just gonna go out there and want to play this game. That he will be given some grace in the beginning. It's going to be a problem come merge, but they're going to want to get to merge. And so I just keep coming back to Kyle and I, I just, because there was something about
Starting point is 00:53:15 it that I was like, ah, like he sounds like he's going to be so great. But then I'm like, but is he going to be, or is he just, just describing the perfect way you should play survivor. Right. Okay. So I'm picking the anti-Superfan and you're picking the Superfan as the one to go off first. It'll be a battle for the ages. That's for Jessica.
Starting point is 00:53:33 That's what you should have said. Yeah, that's right. Damn it. All right. Well, we can move on to the Lagui tribe. They are wearing purple. We begin with Bianca. She is 33, a PR consultant originally from New Jersey and now in Virginia,
Starting point is 00:53:52 but she won't say she's in PR. She will say she works corporate events. She's watched the show since season one when she was eight years old. She says, my successful career in public relations has given me the tools I need to win people over spin a story. I never take anything personally and keep going. Her boyfriend has really been running her through the ringer for prep. He had her outside. Her boyfriend. Well, no, I, you know, he's been,
Starting point is 00:54:26 he had her outside making fire every night. You know, maybe Genevieve needed this last season and she went to play video games and stuff. Didn't end up mattering, but. Sorry, Genevieve. Yeah. But she was making fire. He got her pull up bars, grippy things
Starting point is 00:54:44 that Charlie recommended, puzzles, doing all the things that Chrissy hates. So, yeah. And then she's talked about how she's a social person, and a number of social people have won recently. So she plans to focus on that. But she also knows strategy doesn't go out the window. And to me, this is an important point that people sometimes forget,
Starting point is 00:55:07 but we keep reminding people on this podcast. So let me get on my soapbox for just a moment. Yes, you need to pretend to be nice. That is one of the rules. But you need to have a social game. That is part of the rule. People do not win just by being nice. First, you have to make it to the end of the game and that is where the bulk of the strategy comes in.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Yes. I listened to Bianca and I fell in love with Bianca. I was like, she just, she also has this this quality about her. But then I was thinking to myself, boy, she reminds me so much of like those survivor. Applicants and players and when I'm like, and I could not remember the individual's name, but it was I got the same exact vibe and it was someone who ended up being voted out like third. And yes, and I and I so I I was like, oh, is this going to be Bianca's curse? Because there's so much to love about Bianca that I am almost nervous
Starting point is 00:56:14 that she is going to go out there and is just going to be too perfect in a way. And so people are going to be like, yeah, no, I'm not. I'm not. Bianca needs to go is what I, what I fear for Bianca, because she just brings so much to the table. So I, I'm a little bit, I'm a little bit worried for Bianca, because there is just so much here that seems delicious and good and, and great survivor qualities that, yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:56:46 So that was my, I was like, wow, she's so great. And then my brain started swirling about all those other people that are like, I think it was one of my winter picks actually. I see an M in my head, Molly, but I don't think it's Molly. But anyway. Okay, well, yeah, we will see on that. We can move on to Eva.
Starting point is 00:57:11 She is 24 and a PhD candidate in engineering and fluid and thermal science from Minnesota, currently in Rhode Island. She went from being told she could never live on her own because of her autism to currently working towards her PhD at Brown and being team captain on the Brown University men's hockey team, while also being an NCAA hockey official, which
Starting point is 00:57:36 is what she's going to tell people she does. She's not going to tell people she has giant seal imitations in a pool. And so. Why would you not tell people that? I mean, it is kind of cool, but. Right. Wow. Yeah, I was fascinated, absolutely fascinated by the work that she does. Yeah. But she wants to be seen on her tribe as an athlete
Starting point is 00:57:57 while she keeps her intelligence hidden. So she's not too much of a threat. Now, one thing she said about her autism is she has somewhat of an inability to recognize social cues. And so even though she's a very social person, which you can pick up on just in her interviews, she doesn't get the small social cues that everyone else does. So she says she may miss it when people lie to her, which is obviously a potential detriment in the game. And she also said she's not good at finding things, so she won't be able to get an advantage or an idol
Starting point is 00:58:33 and isn't going to rely on it. And she said, I feel like I have to rely more on the rest of my gameplay instead of all these little additional things that you could find, which made me say, wow, what a concept. that you could find, which made me say, wow, what a concept. Are you giving her a hard time? Not her. I'm giving everybody else a hard time
Starting point is 00:58:53 who says they're going to rely on advantages and idols. Yeah, I do think that she, I love that she's coming into this game and she recognizes all of these things about her, because that is one thing that we've talked a lot about is you have to know what your strengths are. You have to know what your weaknesses are. And she clearly knows both very well. But I also think that her ability to do the things that she's been doing and overcome the obstacles she's been able to overcome,
Starting point is 00:59:22 I think is really going to bode well for her in this game. The fact that she plays hockey in, you know, in a men's league and is also like the captain, I mean, all of these things, I don't feel like she's going to constrain herself to a particular set of rules or a particular set of dynamics. I know rules. I know, I know. Um, but, but I can see her being very flexible flexible in her approach and how she's going to play the game because she recognizes she's going to need to be.
Starting point is 00:59:49 So I think that she's going to find herself in a good place just as far as her understanding of herself and what she can bring to this game and really honing in on those parts of her that she knows are going to go well for her in this game. Yeah. Yeah. And, um, you know, you mentioned coming in, knowing what, you know, certain downsides are. I'll have more to say about that at the end, but yes, I, I agree with you because I think too many people, I might as well just say it now, too many people come in being like, I'm a great lie detector. I will always know when someone's telling me the truth. And they're always wrong.
Starting point is 01:00:29 Almost always. But a lot of the time. Yes. And so knowing that she can't rely on that, I think actually puts her in a better position because she's not going to be like, okay, you're telling me I'm reading your pupils and they're not dilating. I'm writing your body language, whatever. No, she's just going to have to take it on other aspects of the game to figure it out. Yeah. Now I love of course her hot. Which is, I think that you should not be allowed to ask what someone's
Starting point is 01:01:07 going to do with the money in final tribal council. Yeah, I think that should have no indication of how someone played. The rules are to outwit outplay and outlast. And that's what the jury should be making their decision based on. Not on who needs the money the most or who do you think is going to use it the best? No, it should be based on your gameplay, not outside factors. Mm-hmm, agreed. Yeah, and there were a lot of people who commented on,
Starting point is 01:01:32 I mean, she's the only one I remember commenting on this specifically. There were a number of people who were clearly impacted by Maria turning on Charlie. Oh my gosh. In most recent season that they had seen. Yeah, there was. There definitely was. And I think this also plays from some of that,
Starting point is 01:01:50 you know, just what happened in that jury there. Yeah, no, that makes sense. All right, well, we can move on to Joe, the fire captain. He is from California. He is 45. He applied for a survivor in honor of his sister who had wanted him to do it and then was killed due to domestic violence.
Starting point is 01:02:15 He prepared by watching a new era supercut of challenges in tribal councils, but also watched earlier with his sister and then paused somewhat when she passed away. Watching Bruce helped him see he cannot be the island dad. Even though he is such a dad. Yes. He is such, his kids are everything to him. I think it's great. Yeah. But he says that his biggest kryptonite is he wears his emotions on his sleeve.
Starting point is 01:02:44 You know, and in the moment, his initial reaction might be one that's not pleasant. And he said that doesn't normally come with words, just body language and facial expressions. Well, he also might have mentioned Millennials vs. Gen X as well. He did. That's an epic, epic season. Oh, okay. I was gonna say, you know, he did, he, obviously, obviously, but yeah,
Starting point is 01:03:10 I do think that Joe was a little bit of an interesting mix because he doesn't wanna be the dad, but as I said, he is all about being a dad. It's very, very important to him. And I just feel like he's going to bring, he's going to be the kind person. I know that, that we we've already talked about David wanting to be kind, I think Joe just is kind, I don't think it's going to he's going to have to try to be kind, I think it's just going to kind of lose off
Starting point is 01:03:38 of him and out of him from every pore. And so I'm, I'm fascinated to see how he's going to handle that part. And so I'm, I'm fascinated to see how he's going to handle that part. And then necessity to be back stabbing and a little more aggressive and a little more underhanded. I don't I think Joe might struggle with that a bit. But I think he's going to be saved by his physicalness as well. Because they are going to need him I think he's going to be saved by his physicalness as well, because they are going to need him, I think,
Starting point is 01:04:07 at the beginning of the work that needs to be done for these tribal councils. So very, very interested to see how Joe is going to, to bring that all together. Yes. Now, one other thing that he recognizes something that a couple of people should have paid more attention to last season, which is that when Jeff asks a question in tribal council, you don't have to give him an insightful, thoughtful, and really impactful statement.
Starting point is 01:04:34 And sometimes it's good to just say less. Yes, and production will hate you for it, but I will love you for it. Right. Thank you, Joe. Yes. I mean, we literally had people voted out for that last season. Now he didn't see last season, of course, but. But yes.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Right. Yes, you don't need to give Jeff everything. That's fine. But he does know Jeff's last name, I'm assuming. So there's that. Yes. Yes. All right.
Starting point is 01:05:00 So next up is Beard Guy, otherwise known as Shaheen. We're finally meeting Beard Guy. We finally meet Beard Guy. He is 38. He is a speech and debate professor from California who was a lawyer for a bit. He says he learned to tone it down. He probably should say his name and not just call him Beard Guy. I did. I said Shaheen.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Oh, I didn't hear you say that. I did. I said Shaheen. Oh, I didn't hear you say that. I apologize. He, he learned to tone it down from making such an impact as Beard Guy in pregame interviews when he was an alternate on 46. So this is a situation here. We've talked before about do the alternates have an advantage and it was mostly it was like, there's a little bit of an advantage just knowing what the process is. But other than that, no biggie. No, for him, that was a big advantage.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Yes, he was able to completely change up and adjust his pregaming. Yeah. And there only seemed to be one person who picked up. I think it was Camilla. She was the only one who picked up on that's beard guy from 46. Right. She was the only one that I think it was. But yeah, that put those things together. So no one else seemed to recognize that people like Chrissy and David
Starting point is 01:06:20 and those folks are not going to pick up on that because they don't. Oh, sure. Right. But I but I do think it's interesting that there only seemed to be one. But yes, he completely changed because he was not the topic of conversation of so many of the people in their interviews as he was when we were like, who is this beard guy? Right. Well, now we'll know. Yeah, he said he he loves the show, though he watched only the season one finale
Starting point is 01:06:47 and then not again until the COVID shutdown. He also got his mom into it and she lost a bet to him and had to watch every episode of every season. I don't call that losing a bet, I call that winning a bet. But when I heard his hot take, when it was posted on Blue Sky, I think it was by Dalton, about being in favor of Final Four fire making and even wanting more fire making in the show, I immediately said, well, I know who I'm not rooting for.
Starting point is 01:07:18 And I still completely disagree with it. But he had a lot of other very smart things to say. It's just that there's one that, you know, that one really bad one that weighs on it in the balance there. Yeah. Yeah. Well, oh, go ahead. Well, I was just going to say he says the debate trained him
Starting point is 01:07:40 to think critically about the world, taught him to see the other side and that changing your mind is a good thing. Okay, then I want you to see the correct side of the Final Four fire making issue and change your mind because what you said was wrong. And not that I'm supporting what he said that, you know, Final Four fire making is a good thing, but he did say we just need more fire. It's not just we need the Final four. Yeah, we don't though. It is not fire making 48. I don't disagree with you.
Starting point is 01:08:11 I'm just saying that he wants more fire, not just that fire. So at least he's giving us a little bit of an asterisk next to the fire making. There is that. But he's so likeable. I mean, he I mean, other than that, other than that, I will I agree. I don't I don't like the fire making either. But he is I think he's talking about when he's talking about the rock, I think he's talking about Joe. So and I and I think Joe also
Starting point is 01:08:42 referenced Shaheen as well. So maybe we've got a little bit of a duo there. And he, there's just something that's very, he's very calming. Like he just has this calm nature about him, but it's also like his brain is always working. So I think he's going to be a very interesting mix because he's, he seems to be very analytical and I think you have to be with the debate team and all the things that he's been able to do. So I'm very into Beard Guy as well, as everyone else was into Beard Guy in 46. So I think he's going to do well. I really see him doing well just because there is this kind of calm nature about him in addition to him wanting to be scheming and plotty, but I think it's going to be
Starting point is 01:09:33 done in a way that's not going to be seen as threatening. Yeah, but he also says he's a logic bully and that's his kryptonite and he tends to push a little too hard and then get weak agreement and I mean, we've seen that on Survivor where someone's like, no, we really need to go after this person eventually someone Yeah, okay, we will and then as soon as they walk away from them, they're like, no, we won't so You know that he has to watch out for yeah, but I think maybe I'll save that when we talk about the tribe. Okay he thinks he has a surprising level of empathy and Yeah, but I think maybe I'll save that for me to talk about the tribe. Okay. He thinks he has a surprising level of empathy and that they write people recognize where they're coming where he he's coming from.
Starting point is 01:10:15 And that he understands their experience in a way they might not have expected because he could put someone else in their shoes. And so he believes he's the perfect combination, socially savvy, strategically competent without being over the top, athletically underestimated. I do like that he talked about how in real life people have time to get to know him beyond first appearances, but on Survivor, he knows he doesn't have that time. So he'll need to talk to people directly so they get to know the secret softy inside of him. You know, we've criticized people before
Starting point is 01:10:52 for saying like, oh yeah, people will see me as rude, but once they get to know me, we'll be like, they won't get to know you. Right, they won't have time to get to know you. So he understands that. He also, you know, these are some of the other good things that he has said. He doesn't want the idol, he doesn't want advantages.
Starting point is 01:11:11 He thinks people are suspicious of him already. He's gonna be viewed as a threat. And so he doesn't even wanna deal with that extra level. Yeah, yeah, and all of those, I think, are good things because I think he's doing a lot of what Eva did. It's Eva, right? Not that I want to make sure I'm saying her name correctly. I believe it's Eva. Okay. So I feel like he's doing a lot of the same with the caveat that he learned with 46, right?
Starting point is 01:11:39 He had the opportunity to hear what people were saying about him and understand how he was being perceived. So I think he comes into this game knowing this is how I'm going to be perceived. Need to keep that in check. So I think that he's going to be in a good position as well because he's had that time to figure that out, hear what people say about him and add it to how he's going to react and act when he's out on the island. So I think that it was to his benefit. And I think to his advantage to be out there in 46, and hear all of these things for sure.
Starting point is 01:12:13 Now, another good thing that he said was the Met in 46 was you have to cut your number one. I don't know who came up with that, but that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Why? Why do you have to cut your number one? No, you go to the end with your number one and you sit there, you make arguments as to who's better.
Starting point is 01:12:29 So yes, again, like I said, he has a lot of good takes and, you know, a couple of really bad. So, all right, we can move on to star. So, all right, we can move on to star. She is 28, a sales expert originally from Liberia and now in Georgia, but she's not telling anyone that she does sales rather than she's a stay at home mom, which she is a mom also, you know, I mean, she's not lying about that part.
Starting point is 01:13:01 which she is a mom also, you know? I mean, she's not lying about that part. So she said she didn't really watch the show till her son was born, which was about 11 months prior. She's watched all the seasons, but, and this is the problem we've talked about before, binging like that does not necessarily get you a full understanding of the game unless you go deeper. And as an example, she said she doesn't think
Starting point is 01:13:33 she needs to have a story and she can just focus on what's happening on the show. And sure, if all you've done is watched the show and you binge the show and you think that what you see represents everything, that might make sense to you. But if you understand that you're with these people 24-7, and you have a lot of time, even in a 26-day game, you have a lot of time to talk and get to know each other, you'd better have some story or you're not going to make good relationships.
Starting point is 01:14:08 But I think that she's still going to have a story without trying to have a story, if that makes sense. Like I can understand where she's coming from in saying that, where it's like I don't need to come in and have a sob story. I don't need to come in and have something about my past that I need everyone to recognize. I think she's gonna come in, she's just gonna be who she says she is. She's star and she's a mom, new mom. And I think that that is going to be her story.
Starting point is 01:14:40 And I think the fact that she is going to own that is still going to get her connected with people in the tribe, if that makes sense. Like, I don't think she feels like she needs to create something. I think it's just going to be who she is and she's going to talk about herself and her life in a way that that becomes her story. Yeah, I just, I didn't see it that way when she, when she was talking about it. I just, the way she talked about it was like,
Starting point is 01:15:05 we should focus on the here and now, not who we are off the aisle. Well, I think she's gonna realize very quickly that you have to talk about, because what else are you gonna sit around and talk about? Right, I mean, oh, look at that leaf. Look at that bird. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:22 Yeah, yeah. So. And I don't think she's going to be able to help herself either. I mean, she was she is very on when she when she talks and she is and she likes to talk and she prides herself on on on her ability to put things together really quickly. And so I can't imagine that she is not going to want to talk about her life in addition to what's going on on the island. I just feel like it's going to happen because she is very much that personality.
Starting point is 01:15:53 I got a little bit of like Caroline when she was, you know, just like the kind of the wow. I mean, she is star and she's and everyone. Caroline or Carolyn? Oh, Carolyn, excuse me. I have to try to keep those. I's and everyone's Caroline or Carolyn. Oh, Carolyn. Excuse me. I have to, yes, I have to try to keep those. I have to keep those straight Carolyn. Yes. And so I did get a lot of that vibe from her where it's just
Starting point is 01:16:13 going to be like, I feel like she is a lot, but she's a lot in a different way than, than I saw Bianca being. So yeah, I mean, I think that she will have that story because it's just going to come from her. Well, yeah. And she said, you know, she think that she will have that story because it's just going to come from her. Well, yeah, and she said, you know, she thinks her charm will be basically her superpower. And she doesn't have to think before she speaks,
Starting point is 01:16:30 the words just come out naturally. And, you know, she can look someone in the eye and talk to them as if they've known each other forever. And people will trust her even if they're lying to her, she's lying to them. As far as the other side, she just learned to swim. So she's worried that will be her kryptonite. Um, but, uh, you know, we'll, we'll see if her charm can outweigh that. Uh, now an interesting thing.
Starting point is 01:17:01 She said her older sister and husband, not her husband, her older sister and husband, not her husband, her older sister's husband, love Survivor. They literally gave me a rule, a list of what to do. And I'm like, oh, a list of what to do, huh. But no, it's not our way. Because the list was similar to what we've already mentioned, which was like, don't say too much to Jeff.
Starting point is 01:17:26 That was one thing. And that's smart. Look for idols, but don't make it too obvious. Okay, that's smart. Don't say a name. Smart. She said. But the hard part is she is there for the information.
Starting point is 01:17:39 She is there to tell you the tea. And she feels that will be her downfall because she's not going to hold anything back. And she's going to talk about whatever happens in camp in tribal council. I hope she overcomes that. I hope she does too. Because for TV viewing, I hope she doesn't for her own game. I hope she does. Well, right.
Starting point is 01:18:00 And that's where you have to find that balance. And hopefully she does find that balance Because she is going to want to give the t but I i'm hoping that it's It's more of just entertainment as opposed to let me tell you all the things that are happening jeff You know if she's able to do it in a way that that doesn't Disclose a whole lot then you, then maybe it'll just be entertaining and it'll be a good time.
Starting point is 01:18:27 Otherwise it's not gonna vote. No. No. Which is my worry. All right, we can move on to Thomas. He is 34 and a music executive from Texas and now in LA. He started watching in 2022 and then watched 42 seasons in nine months.
Starting point is 01:18:45 So rewind a few minutes and go back to what we just said about Star in that regard about pinging and stuff. Um, he said, uh, as far as like how he'll deal with, with the situation, he said his friend and, and he laments that we work in a viper pit on a regular basis. Nothing has prepared me more for this game than the music business. But he also loves people. He has a tendency to make people feel like they're closer than they actually are.
Starting point is 01:19:15 And he thinks that will serve him in the game where everybody will get along. But he'll also probably look like the biggest backstabber and liar. So jury management is going to be hard for him. I love him. Tom, if you're listening, listen, we're going to go get some cold brew together and we are just going to yuck it up and talk about everybody because this is what I want to do with him. He just seems like someone who you just, oh, you want to talk to,
Starting point is 01:19:52 but you want to talk to about everyone. You want to gossip. I just, I feel like this is what Tom is going to bring out in people and you want some tea. Star's going to give you the tea, Tom, because she's going to share it with you. I see this happening. I just, he's just, there's just something about Tom that you, I just want to spend time with him. I just want to hang out with him. Do I think he's gonna do great? I don't know, but
Starting point is 01:20:15 I definitely want to hang out with the guy. Like, oh my gosh, I just, and he said he's obsessed with Stephanie and I love that term that he is obsessed And he's intrigued by Justin. There's so many things about Tom that I I really do appreciate I I think that he can do What he was hoping to do was kind of stir the pot and make a little bit of an issue over here and no one Will know that he's doing it because of his personality I feel like he's gonna be able to pull that off and it's going to be very entertaining to watch. Yeah, that is an interesting thing where he, you know, he says he plans to not get along with everyone
Starting point is 01:20:51 and pick a fight, you know, basically pick someone to have conflict with and they may know it or not. He also says that advantages are incredible if you can keep it to yourself. Yes. And he said he's old school, idle in his underwear. We're never speaking about it. Um, and so he, he hopes to try to figure out where they are and
Starting point is 01:21:16 weaponize the information, or if he finds one, lead someone to it. So he knows they have it and then use that against them, uh, down the road. So, you know, all those those I think are good things. We'll see what happens when it actually comes to it. He said something similar about taking out the number one. He's like, I'm not doing that just to put it on a resume. If I think my number one will beat me, sure. But, you know, he hopes to go with the number one to the end. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:21:51 I think he's fabulous. So I do enjoy him immensely. I enjoy him immensely. We can talk about the tribe now if you like to talk about the whole tribe. I feel like Shaheen will at least make it to the merge. I think a combination of his potential strength and personality will make him a threat at that point. Bianca seems very prepared and I think her work in PR will enable her to stick around
Starting point is 01:22:19 for a while. Eva also seems very personable and I think will get along well with the two I just mentioned and throw Thomas in there too. So that to me only leaves two people potentially out. Joe has big muscles. That's not always a good enough reason to keep someone, but you know at the very beginning, you know. So maybe he won't go out in the first vote. I could actually see him going second. And, but obviously who's that narrow it down to for first. I think star could go first and I would chalk it up mostly to the way she
Starting point is 01:22:58 binged the show and perhaps doesn't understand the ins and outs of it. Um, plus like I said, her sister, the fan told her to hold back and she doesn't understand the ins and outs of it. Plus, like I said, her sister, the fan, told her to hold back and she doesn't plan to do that. So. Yeah. I hate to say it. I mean, I hate to say it pretty much about anyone on this tribe,
Starting point is 01:23:16 but I'm gonna guess Star goes first from this tribe. Well, and here's the struggle I have. I feel like what's going to... Yes, I share your concern with Star that she might not necessarily have the information that she needs to have about Survivor because she did binge and she just kind of crammed it all in pretty quickly. But at the same time, I do think that there's something to say about her charisma and she just kind of crammed it all in, you know, pretty quickly. But at the same time, I do think that there's something to say about her charisma and, and she was referencing that herself. I think she's going to be very, uh, she's going to be a strong personality,
Starting point is 01:23:55 but I don't think that that's necessarily going to be a fault for her in this particular group. And I say that because I'm looking at the people in this group and I'm curious, how are they all going to jive? I don't feel the same way about the Laghi tribe as I do about, is it SEVA, however you say these tribe names, where I can see the connections and I can see people wanting to like come together. This group, I think we're going to have two people that are going to be vying for the
Starting point is 01:24:24 head of the snake, if you will, but they aren't going to want to be seen that way. And that's where I think we have a Bianca and Shaheen issue that's going to happen, where you're going to have both of them who feel like they should be listened to and they should be the ones in charge. And then everyone's going to have to kind of fall in line and figure out where they wanna be and who they want to align with. And I think that's where we're going to get headbutting from.
Starting point is 01:24:52 I could be wrong, but I'm just kind of reading the room. You could be wrong in a prediction, no way. I know, it's crazy, right? I will be wrong. So I'll just throw that out there too. So I think in that, in that world and in looking at the, the Laghi tribe, that's where I, I come back to that Bianca concern where she is going to be someone who is so prepared and so ready and has everything that
Starting point is 01:25:17 she needs that Shaheen is going to be like, ah, no, Bianca's got it. She's got to go. And I think that there's going to be enough people wanting to get behind beard guy, no, Bianca's got it. She's got to go. And I think that there's going to be enough people wanting to get behind beard guy, um, that, that he's going to end up taking the day and ruling the day. And so I could see him grabbing on to those like, because Joe don't know. I don't think Joe's going to be a real, uh, strategist. I don't think star is going to be a real strategist. I think Tom is going to be over in the corner trying to like, he like make things happen and he's going to be able to do it. And,
Starting point is 01:25:52 Eva is going to be kind of following along because she isn't going to be necessarily like lead the charge. So I really think that that's where I see Bianca falling to the side and people getting behind Shaheen. And that's why I'm really worried for Bianca that she's just, she's too like, it's very much like Kyle. Like you're like, you got too many good qualities. See, you're turning into Chrissy. You're the anti-super fan.
Starting point is 01:26:19 I'm not the anti-super fan. I know. I think it really is how you present it. And I'm very concerned that Bianca is not going to be able to like rain that that part of her in and say like, you know what? I don't need to, I don't need to like necessarily be in charge. I think it's just going to be too obvious. So that's, that's where I'm, I'm falling on this one. All right. But Tom, yeah, let's go.
Starting point is 01:26:44 Let's go have some cold brew. You're a little further away from him. I know! I hate that too. It's terrible. But anyway, all right. All right. We will move on to the Vula tribe, which is wearing green, and begin with Cedric, a 46 year old surgeon from South Carolina who does not plan to hide that he is a surgeon, which is good, as we learned from Josh. And he has regularly watched Survivor since 2000. I have to say, I did not really get a whole lot out of Cedric's interview. He said he plans to be unassuming and start at ground level and build relationships, which sounds good.
Starting point is 01:27:28 And his biggest superpower is the ability to talk to almost anyone about anything and create a connection. But then what? I don't know. I do not know. And because of that, spoiler for the section on summarizing the tribe, I think he could easily go first. Yeah, but there is something about Cedric that is very...
Starting point is 01:27:53 Say entertaining. Not entertaining. Not entertaining. He's not Cedric the entertainer, okay. No, he is not Cedric the entertainer, but that's pretty funny. But I think that he is, he is very, I don't know if I want to say unassuming, just because he just seems to have kind of a good grasp on life, if that makes sense. And I and he does a lot of, uh, like he's, uh, what's the, what's the word?
Starting point is 01:28:26 Um, he goes on like shows and he gives them his opinion about various medical components where they might have, um, yeah, what, what word am I thinking of? I don't even know, but, but he's like kind of an advisor, I guess, for, for, for TV shows. And so he does, he must have, I mean, he goes, I mean, he's not just like behind the scenes. He's like on camera doing these things. So he's gotta have something about him
Starting point is 01:28:52 that comes across on screen. And so there was something kind of like, I don't know, like under the surface with Cedric that I was a little bit fascinated with, because I think he might just have that quiet confidence about him that might carry him through a little bit fascinated with because I think he might just have that quiet confidence about him that might carry him through a little bit. He's not going to necessarily be in your face. Yeah, he's a surgeon and he's smart,
Starting point is 01:29:12 but he's like, yeah, I'm a surgeon. Okay. You know, I feel like it's just gonna be like, yeah, so what? It is opposed to being like, look at me and all of the incredible things that I can do. I don't know. So I feel like I understand
Starting point is 01:29:27 where you're coming out with struggling a little bit with Cedric, but I did the quiet confidence I can appreciate about Cedric. And so I do think that he is not going to come in and be like, I need to take over and I need to be in control. But I think there will be a respect about him because he won't be doing that. And so I can see him at least pre-emerge like being okay. Okay. All right. We will move on to our Pizzeria Manager. Justin is 29 and he also has a degree from Yale. He is from Massachusetts. Interestingly, he's a vegetarian. So we'll see if he caves like Kyle did last season and eats meat when he gets hungry. He has watched Survivor for a long time and for example, he clearly knew who Mike Bloom was as he was doing those interviews. Justin says his superpower is his ability to connect with people and I would say working in his family's pizza restaurant.
Starting point is 01:30:29 I imagine he has to do that a lot. In addition, he said, I don't act like a Yale grad, I don't talk like a Yale grad, I don't look like a Yale grad, but I am a Yale grad. And he said, I think that training and the studying that I've done, the people I've met, that's all up here, but it's covered by a lot of hair, it's covered by a hat, it's covered by a lot of pizza. So to me, the question for him is, can he combine the Yale side of him and the pizza manager side of him into a survivor player side? I think he can certainly be social enough. I'm having a hard time pinning down the strategic side.
Starting point is 01:31:11 Yeah, I can agree with that because I do think that he does seem to be a very loyal person for sure. And so I think that loyalty will definitely be something that he brings to any game that he's playing. I mean, just look at the decisions that he's made relative to his family. And will he do the same with the people that he's playing this game with? I'm curious about that.
Starting point is 01:31:35 If that's something that he would bring to the strategic portion of his game, like, is he going to be someone that, like, gloms on to a particular group of people and like that's it. Those are my people and that's who I'm going to play with. So you know, he is kind of a he's kind of a mix because how many people do you see with his type of resume if you will, right? Where he is a Yale grad has done like incredible things. He was 18 with where he was where he was working and now he is running this the pizza shop for his family. So he's certainly someone who has
Starting point is 01:32:12 had a wide range of things happen in his life. So I I don't really know honestly like where he is gonna end up. I certainly don't think he's gonna take charge either. I don't see him necessarily taking charge of this group, but I also don't think he's going to just kind of sit back and let someone else take control either. I think he's going to find that middle ground. Just, I don't know, but he seems, he's an interesting mix for sure. All right. We can move to Kevin, who is a 34 and a finance manager from California. He has watched Survivor since Australia, sort of, but he didn't really get into it till
Starting point is 01:32:52 Cook Islands. Speaking of interesting mixes, we have another one here because he has experience with basically being a salesperson at Abercrombie. As he described, the manager was like, your job is to charm people, make people feel like a million dollars when they come into the store, be hospitable, be friendly. And he said that really trained me well to talk to so many people and knock their socks off. And I will say one of my sons worked at Abercrombie at their HQ,
Starting point is 01:33:21 not in the stores, doing know, doing other things. And while the coworkers were nice, it was not that kind of work. It was not necessarily charm going around and a lot of excitement. But getting back to Kevin, after talking about his social abilities, he said he has to play a really strategic game of not being so social because I think people can already see that I'm kind of smiley and really friendly. So he worries that people will think he's a threat because he's being too nice to everyone and making alliances with everyone.
Starting point is 01:33:58 And so it's, it's, or people will think that he's making alliances. It is a smart thing to watch out for. So, yeah, you know, that'll be interesting to see how he does that. Well, and I think that his I think part of his issue is really going to stem from how he's been presenting himself, at least from his own description, from Ponderosa, where he's just kind of like staring off into the abyss and not really doing much to connect with people because he's so worried about being seen as too social that I think he's put himself into a box where people are like,
Starting point is 01:34:41 I don't even know, I can't get a read from this person. And I think he's going to be in a in a tough spot. Because those those few days are very important to try to make those connections. And I don't think he's necessarily made those connections. And I think he's trying too hard to overcompensate for being likable and being sociable that once he gets on the island, he's going to have to try to play catch up and it's going to be
Starting point is 01:35:04 too little too late. So I'm very concerned with how he has put himself in front of the group thus far. And I don't think that it's going to work for him because we know this game does move very quickly and people are making decisions very quickly and I worry for him in the decisions that he's made pre-game and how it's going to affect him in the game. Yeah, yeah. Another thing that worries me a bit is how his plans are laid out, including Kevin's family tree. Yeah. He said he's going to make himself a family member to everyone, but didn't I just say
Starting point is 01:35:44 he was concerned that he would look like he's making alliances with everyone? make himself a family member to everyone. But didn't I just say he was concerned that he would look like he's making alliances with everyone? So, you know, but he, you know, he also has specific plans to get another guy as a meat shield, a woman to ensure there isn't a woman's alliance. And if there is, he can be the fourth, but then vote out the meat shield pre-merge so the tribe doesn't appear strong coming into the merge. And it is all very detailed, as one might expect from someone who is used to dealing
Starting point is 01:36:13 with complex finances and managing them. And I like that he has these ideas. The question is how he'll react when the implementation doesn't work out the way he expects because at some point it's not going to right So that's where you know, we're gonna have to see his flexibility in terms of Okay, is this going to work for you? Yeah Now one thing that I liked that he said was he's okay with not playing flashy early. He said the strategy is to survive with the numbers going in and the people that you trust
Starting point is 01:36:51 going into the merge. And then after the merge, he wants to control it using that family tree plan and make a big move at seven or so. Again, very laid out. Yeah. Again, good planning as long as you know. The problem, of course, with the big move at seven or six is then they get rid of you right afterwards.
Starting point is 01:37:09 Right, you'll be the target. Yeah, we've seen it time and time again. Again, this sounds like the stereotypical version of this is the survivor game I want to play, but we've all seen the best laid plans, right? You walk in and you're like, this is what I want to do, but it has to fall in line with everyone else's plans and everyone else's ideas. And you might not be able to do that. So is he going to be flexible the way that it needs to be? I don't know, because it seems like there's it's too, as you indicated, like analytical, and it's all laid out and this move, then that, and I'm going to do this,
Starting point is 01:37:42 I'm going to do that. You can't go into a game and have it all structured in such a way when it's a game like Survivor. You have to be able to bob and weave and change and I don't know if Kevin's necessarily going to be able to do that. Yeah. Now one other thing I wanted to mention is he had the same idea that we have heard from other people that he's gonna look for idols at night. And again, we've said this before, it is really dark at night. Can't see anything, stop it.
Starting point is 01:38:11 Yeah, we finally got a glimpse of that last season when Rachel was sneaking up on the group talking about her and they literally turned off the dark vision lens. But obviously he didn't see that. So he's still going in there thinking, oh, there's going to be some light and I can look. No, no, there isn't. Yeah. Mm-mm. It's dark. Trust me. I was out there. It's dark. All right. We can move on to Mary, who is a 31-year-old social worker and substance abuse
Starting point is 01:38:41 counselor originally from Maryland, now in Philadelphia. Her parents emigrated from China after having been involved in organizing the Tiananmen Square demonstrations, and then her mom was jailed for a while while her dad was on the run. So yeah, she has a hell of a family story going on there. They wrote a book. Yeah, my word, everything. And she's so nonchalant about so much of this. It's like, oh yeah, and then this happened. And then there was that. And it was just like, just reading this and then let's do your talk about. I really do hope they wrote a book because wow, wow. Just incredible. Yeah, she started watching early in COVID. She said she doesn't lie much in real life, but recognizes that out here,
Starting point is 01:39:29 the name of the game is deception. And she also thinks that volunteering at a crisis hotline where 25% of the calls were suicide related prepared her because you have to get someone to trust you within moments speaking to them for the first time. And that is an interesting view that I never would have thought of. Yeah, yeah. Again, wow. Everything about Mary, I just kept finding myself thinking, this is incredible.
Starting point is 01:39:57 I do love her strategic sandwich. I think that's fantastic. I'm very much into that, so I can appreciate where she's coming from in that regard. So I like that plan and it's different even though I just said you know Kevin's coming in with all these ideas. The strategic sandwich is something that that can... Is the strategic salmon sandwich the one where she wants to keep a weaker and a stronger player? Yes. Well see to me that's the appendix A sandwich. She wants to keep a weak and a strong so that no matter what,
Starting point is 01:40:27 if people are voting out the weak or the strong, she'll have someone other than her. Yeah, and I think it's funny because she even says, I don't know how I'm gonna play because one of her strengths is adaptability. So I love that for her as well, that she is not coming in as Kevin
Starting point is 01:40:43 where it's a structured idea and I need to do X, Y, and Z when I get to this point, to that point, she is going to adapt to what is going on around her. So I think in that regard, her strategic sandwich is a great plan, but it's going to be adaptable as well. And so I really appreciated that component of Mary as well, where she was like, I don't know how I'm gonna play,
Starting point is 01:41:02 but that's because I'm, I'm adaptable. Right. She also wants to players not to see how strategic she is. And instead, she thinks they'll believe she's chaotic and loud. So that'll be interesting to watch. And of course, you know, you talked about being adaptable. So that's, you know, another rule, rule three there. So I do have a good feeling about Mary.
Starting point is 01:41:28 There's something about Mary. Something about Mary. That's good. Look at you coming up with all these little funny, funny ways to talk about their names. I like it. All right. Next up is Sai. She is 30, a marketing professional originally from Philadelphia, now in California. The funny thing to me is she used to work for NBC and was responsible for their shows and Bravo shows. So maybe after she's done here, if she does well enough, she'll end up back on the Traders or Deal or No Deal Island.
Starting point is 01:42:01 Quite possible. Yeah. She said she's always watched the show sporadically and then started more intensively from the beginning. Um, um, um, Sy talked about some of her prep, including being out on her patio, making fire and having the fire department called once. And she said she was like, I didn't actually start a fire. It was just actually trying to make a fire.
Starting point is 01:42:26 Smoke. It kind of reminds me of when I was in college and my roommate had these horribly stinky shoes. So at the end of the summer, we decided to burn them in the barbecue grill. And so pro tip here, that's not a good idea. That's really not a smart idea because when you burn rubber, which is typically in gym shoes, it produces a lot of black smoke. And the neighbor across the parking lot called the fire department. And so the fire department pulled up and we're out there yelling from our balcony, no, no problem here. Just, just having a barbecue. Bad idea. It's all a bad idea.
Starting point is 01:43:02 Bad idea. It's all a bad idea. No, don't do that. She also talked about being the middleman as well. So she has a similar, I think, idea or plan that we just talked about with Mary. And so I think that that'll be a good place for her to kind of fall into. But she also seems to be like Mary in that she's not necessarily going to like lock herself into that. She will be adaptable as well. So I think there's a lot of things that we can see in her that we could see in Mary. It's just she didn't describe it as a
Starting point is 01:43:38 strategic sandwich necessarily, but more of the middleman. So I can see the two things kind of coming together in that regard. Yeah, and she said, you know, her biggest weakness is emotion and she can be very reactive, but needs to contain it. She said, even though somebody might do something terrible to me, I can't necessarily vote them off the next vote.
Starting point is 01:43:58 I might need to use them for however long, but also showing my expressions, I need to be well aware of how I'm coming off. So all of that is very good, very self aware. Yes, I do love that there is the self aware. And she was she's been swimming every day. So she is ready for swimming challenges as well. So and I should mention this and someone else I think it
Starting point is 01:44:19 was Tom, my guy Tom Nylop talked about going to therapy before going out and playing Survivor. I'm like, what a great idea. Therapy or physical therapy? So she talked about therapy. I think Tom talked about physical therapy. But then I started thinking about it. I'm like, God, what a great idea to have both of those things because you're not just working out
Starting point is 01:44:40 your body, you're preparing your body, but you're also preparing your mind. I just thought that that was an interesting kind of just side note that like perhaps before you go out and play Survivor, get some therapy, both physical and mental, it might be helpful for you. Take it from someone who played the game, just saying. Anyway, little side note there.
Starting point is 01:45:01 All right, and now we have Stephanie. She is 38 and a tech product lead in Brooklyn. She was a teacher for eight years before that. She loves Survivor and other reality TV, watched originally as a kid, but started watching again at the beginning of the pandemic. She clearly knows Mike and talked about listening to tons of pregame press for other series. You know, for all we know, she's watching or listening now. Hello, Stephanie. Hi, Stephanie.
Starting point is 01:45:30 And also, she may have listened before because her hot take was, I think all advantages at this point are disadvantages. Yeah. She wrote herself a manifesto about playing before coming out. And it seems like the key was balance. Like she won't be the strongest, but hopes she could be strong enough.
Starting point is 01:45:55 She knows she can't show up on day one and tell people what to do. And I agree with her, if she maintains the balance, I think she'll be in a good spot. Yes. And I think that Stephanie is another one that left an impression on a lot of people in Ponderosa. There was many mentions about Stephanie, people loving Stephanie, people not liking Stephanie.
Starting point is 01:46:20 That comment also came from Sy. She didn't seem to be a big Stephanie fan, which makes me a little nervous because they are on the same tribe. So I'm hoping that that's something that they can work through and it doesn't become an issue. She is certainly someone that I, you know, I struggled with Stephanie because initially I was like, I don't know, is she going to be too much? Like, is she going to be like I was thinking about, you know, Bianca or being?
Starting point is 01:46:43 But I get a different type of too much vibe It's more of the like star type of vibe where it's it's actually I think going to work for Stephanie Because it has worked for Stephanie in her life And so I think it's probably going to continue to work for her on the island as well Because there is something about her that I think people were drawn to. And I think there was something about Mary. You can't say there's something about Stephanie. Well there's something about Stephanie too. Okay.
Starting point is 01:47:10 But I to have so many people talk about her pregame. Clearly there's something about her that that stands out and that is that they notice and and I I know there was someone I it might have I can't remember who said it, but someone was like, you know, it shouldn't be about who you like the best or who you like the most. But we know that that is actually something that happens in Survivor when you're down to it.
Starting point is 01:47:33 Like, who am I going to pick? Is it someone that I like better than this person or someone I get along better than this person? So, and I think Stephanie brings that. So there is definitely something about her as well that I think is going to work for her in this game because I think people will be drawn to her in a way that will be beneficial to her.
Starting point is 01:47:53 Yeah. Yeah. And speaking about the end game, she understands the most important element, which is, and she said, survivor is about making it to the end and sitting next to two people you can beat. And really that, you know, obvious, it sounds obvious, but it's not always obvious to people. And she believes she has the adaptability and resilience to make it to the end and the smarts to make the right moves along the way and the storytelling ability to put it all
Starting point is 01:48:19 in front of a jury. Yeah. I think she, I think she can definitely do all of those things. And I love that she said, please don't make me your winner pick anyone because it's too much pressure. Oh, she said that? I missed that. She did. She did. She's like, please don't. We'll see if I have to change that then. We'll have to see. All right. For the tribal prediction, before we get to the overall, I mean, I've already said who I think will be first out, etc. I worry that Stephanie will throw in her lot with him and end up on the outs.
Starting point is 01:48:54 But I hope that she'll see what's happening and not do that. Yeah. I think Kevin and Justin will get along well. I'm not sure where Si will fall in there. I do worry a little bit about Mary because just her describing herself is appearing chaotic. But I think Kevin overall will get the furthest. You really think so? I do.
Starting point is 01:49:21 Wow. I may be having second thoughts on it, but that was, you know, when I wrote this down, that's what I was thinking. See, and it's interesting because I kind of went back and forth. This tribe, I struggled with the most. I think that this tribe is going to have some issues overall, but I also like,
Starting point is 01:49:42 I was torn between people on this tribe for various reasons. And I, oh gosh, this is so fascinating because we're in such different places. Well, I mean, I know I had some things to say about him and his over planning and stuff, but maybe it's just the engineer in me. And I hope that, you know, his planning works out.
Starting point is 01:50:05 Yeah, I actually think Kevin is going to be in trouble. I think he's going to be and I say that because I think that just looking, this is a very interesting, they're all interesting individuals on all of the tribes, but I feel like this one in particular individuals on all of the tribes, but I feel like this one in particular is going to be an interesting mix of people. And I do think that I just feel like Kevin is going to put himself in a position that is feeling that I don't know, I just I keep coming back to Kevin, I can see connections being formed with various people. I was, sigh, I was a little bit worried about, but I feel like, I don't know, I just keep going back to Kevin.
Starting point is 01:50:49 I'm going with my gut. I'm just going with my gut. I'm worried about Kevin. I'm worried about Kevin. Okay. So, overall predictions. I already mentioned that I think the first out for each tribe will be Chrissy, Cedric, and Star.
Starting point is 01:51:05 Yes, I realize I picked two of the older players, which I hate to do, but it's just the way things seem this season as I'm looking at them. So which tribe will end up going to tribal council first? I actually think it'll be the one we were just discussing, Vula. And so my first out prediction is Cedric. I agree. I'm worried about Vula. And I'm worried about Vula, which makes me so very sad.
Starting point is 01:51:34 But I so I just I don't know. I feel like sorry, Kevin. I just I don't know. Yeah, it is what it is. Unfortunately, I think Siva is going to kill it. I think Siva is just going to take the crown. I think we are definitely going to see Siva not go to Bible Council. That's my prediction for Siva.
Starting point is 01:52:01 Now, as far as those going far, I had mentioned Kevin, who you think will be first out. I had mentioned Bianca, Eva, Thomas and Camilla. Um, of them, I get the best feelings out of Eva and Camilla. Now I have to recognize that when it comes to Camilla, a large part of that comes from her sarcasm and sense of humor, both in her interviews and the little bit we've seen on social media. I think I need to set that aside. That's more like I like her as a person.
Starting point is 01:52:33 And I don't know that that means she'll win. And even though Eva believes that she won't be able to detect the lie, I mentioned earlier, I think that may be good because she won't be able to detect a lie. I mentioned earlier, I think that may be good because she won't be relying on that. She won't be like, oh, I'm reading this person and I know, absolutely. She may rely more on logic and things that have happened and things that will happen. And so her going in knowing this,
Starting point is 01:53:02 I feel like puts her at an advantage. I am making Eva my winner. Well, now look at that. So this is where I was very sad because I'm worried for Bula. But I kept coming back to Stephanie. I just couldn't stop coming back to Stephanie. It was like everyone was talking about Stephanie and then I was like, I don't know about Stephanie. And then I listened to her interviews and I, I came back to Stephanie and then I've also learned,
Starting point is 01:53:38 now I will say this, I am not spoiled in any way, shape or form. But Stephanie happens to be very good friends with someone I work with. Isn't that weird? Like I found this out app. I was like, huh, well that's, and again, I, I've never spoken to Stephanie. My, the, the person I work with hasn't been told a thing besides, oh my God, my friend's going to be on survivor.
Starting point is 01:54:01 And she thinks it's crazy because she's like, I've worked with someone who is on survivor and now I'm friends with someone who is on Survivor and now I'm friends with someone who's on Survivor So she's just living her best life through the two of us, but so I'm going with Stephanie I just and I I asked my magic eight ball if she was gonna win and it said most definitely yes So you know can't argue with that possible way you can argue with that so now I have to apologize because Stephanie was like, do not make me your winner pick.
Starting point is 01:54:27 And then you did. Jessica Lewis just did so. And we all know how. I know. I know. You just destroyed her. You just destroyed her. I destroyed her and I just made Kevin win the game.
Starting point is 01:54:38 So there you go. That's where we're at. All right. Well, before we wrap up, I do want to let everyone know that the rules that we will be talking about all season long, the one, you know, are available in poster and t-shirt form. So here's the poster. You see the top of it behind me, but it is actually a full-on poster. Look at that.
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Starting point is 01:55:42 you know, again, oh, I never told you where you can get that. That's robhazardwebsite.com slash yxlostfeed. You go to and click on any of those. Yes. And in the meantime, you know, where can people find us? So I am at JessicaLewis89 both on Blue Sky and Twitter. I'm also at JessicaLewis89 both on Blue Sky and Twitter. I'm also at JessicaLewis6789 on Instagram. I will become much more active now that Survivor is starting. I've gotten away from social media just a bit, but now that I have things to talk about
Starting point is 01:56:17 and post about, I will definitely be doing so. However, the gentleman to my right, because I have to remember you're over here, has been a nonstop force to be reckoned with on social media, even in between survivor seasons, because he is posting about basically everything under the sun, because he has also been podcasting about basically everything under the sun I feel. So David Bloomberg, why don't you tell them about your Linktree and where they can
Starting point is 01:56:48 find you and all of these places. Yes, you can go to linktree.davidbloomberg with a dot before the EE and the URL. And that will get you to all the important links and locations. Or you can find me directly on blue sky is at David Bloomberg. Don't even bother on Twitter or X. The only reasons that I'm posting there right now are to tell people to come to Blue Sky. So we need to get all the survivor discussions moved over to, you know, away from the bad place.
Starting point is 01:57:24 So come on over to Blue Sky. I have been also posting as you indicated, at least three, often more, you know, like four or five sometimes, reality TV short videos each day on YouTube, TikTok and Instagram, where I'm at David Bloomberg TV. Right now they're a mix of Australian survivor including some, you know, I'm going to start many Y
Starting point is 01:57:51 blank lost videos for that. The Traders US, Deal or No Deal Island, the new show Extracted where one, a whole bunch of survivors apparently got paid to promote this. But one player is out in the wilderness surviving and two family members are watching and trying to help from a base camp and only they can pull them from the game. I still have a few left over from Beast Games, which ended. Occasional one from the Joe Schmo show.
Starting point is 01:58:20 Plus I mentioned the podcast flashbacks coming to get us ready for the new season. I hope to get those up and running. And of course, I will start with Survivor 48 videos as soon as the new episode airs. I'm aiming for 50,000 subscribers on YouTube soon. So if you're not there already. Come join us. Additionally, as you mentioned, I have been co-hosting the Trader podcast. That's T-R-A-I-D-A-R for the Traders US.
Starting point is 01:58:55 And you can find that wherever you get podcasts. And it's now in video form on YouTube as well. Nice. And you dress up for it. I wear my trader's cloak for it. That is true. I love that you are so dedicated to the cause. That's great.
Starting point is 01:59:15 And I dressed up like Boston Robb sometimes, but he's not there anymore. Listen, he is a person who we have discussed in this podcast in ways that I never thought we would be discussing. As we wrap up, I want to encourage people to check out the RJP Patron program at robhaswebsite.com slash patron. You can get access to all the special podcasts that are put out just for patrons, plus Facebook groups and
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Starting point is 02:00:57 Here we go. That's right. Yes. Thank you, Jessica. We will see everyone in a week, but thank you especially for doing the thing that you love most, which are predictions. So.
Starting point is 02:01:12 And I apologize to everyone who is on this season for my predictions. All right, well, with that, like I said, we will be back here next week and we will have David Wright. And so everyone be prepared to say, David, you're right. Well, you should say that every time anyway. But with that, we will we will see you soon. Bye. If I lost survivor and you're feeling down, David and Jessica will turn it around. Bye! Bye! This is what life looks like. Baby, this is what life looks like. online casinos. Enjoy casino games at your fingertips with the same Vegas strip excitement MGM is famous for.
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