RHAP: We Know Survivor - Why ___ Lost: Survivor 49 Ep 11

Episode Date: December 6, 2025

Why ___ Lost: Survivor 49 Ep 11 Sophie said in her last words, “I’m taking it as a little bit of a compliment that I was a big threat to everybody’s game.” Meanwhile, Sage said, “She did this to herself.” In a way, they’re both right. But those statements definitely don’t fully explain what happened! Even if Sophie was a threat, there are a lot of threats! Plus, other people made decisions based on Sophie’s actions and it’s questionable whether they were right. David Bloomberg and Jessica Lewis dig into all of this. Because at RHAP, we know Survivor, and we know Why Sophie Lost. To pre-order Rob’s book, The Tribe and I Have Spoken, visit www.robhasabook.com Check out our new merch at https://www.robhasawebsite.com/merc LISTEN: Subscribe to the Survivor podcast feed WATCH: Watch and subscribe to the podcast on YouTube SUPPORT: Become a RHAP Patron for bonus content, access to Facebook and Discord groups plus more great perks!

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I'm David Bloomberg, and when you have me and my co-host Jessica Lewis together, that's two stones with one bird, or a birdie carrying a stone. Or maybe it's a stoned bird hiding in two bushes, kicking the wrong rock. Oh, you did. You brought it all together for me. Isn't that lovely? Yeah, two birds, wrong stone. How about that?

Exactly. Exactly. Yes. Very much so. Yes. Rizzo could not get that saying right. But he did a lot of other things this episode that helped push the action and the direction he wanted while keeping attention away from himself and focused on the person we will primarily be discussing today. That is Sophie, the one with an E, not the one who is Jessica's winner pick.

Winner pick. Yeah. Sorry Sophie with an E. but yes, Sovi without a knee still in the game. And I'm pretty excited about that, I'm going to say. And now she can just be Sophie. They can stop calling her soap. I know.

And I am happy that there was some clarity provided about the Sophie. Yeah. It was existing. I mean, the last name thing, you know, where it turned out, this is from Mike Bloom's interview, by the way, if anyone didn't see it, where someone in the cast who, remained unnamed said no it was too difficult to say their last names their last names aren't that difficult and then they wanted to go by what they'd been calling themselves blue sophie blue sophy and

yellow sophy and jeff was like no you need real names it's like you're the one who or well i don't know if he is or the others did but he allowed purple kelly to come into existence which literally created a new term for someone hidden by the edit. Maybe that's why. Maybe he doesn't like the fact that this... That's interesting. This came out of it and he doesn't want people using yellow or blue

as a word to describe how they were shown in the edit or something like that. Yeah, because there was some discussion early on about yellow Sophie being purple Sophie as well. So perhaps he wanted to get away from the color scheme. Yes. So, so, yeah.

now of course I mentioned Rizzo and his name will undoubtedly come up as will a few others as we follow our usual path of comparing yellow Sophie's game to a set of guiding rules for winning I originally wrote way back after season one and have been updating ever since we'll collect all the non-spoiler information available to us from what we saw on TV interviews social media and secret scenes and the newest published version of the rules can be found by going to rob has website.com slash yx lost feed and clicking on the link bubble convenience labeled for the survivor rules. Speaking of interviews, I should mention that, of course, we did last week's why Juan lost before his interviews came out. I'm happy to say nothing he said really changed anything that we would have gone with. So that's always nice when that happens and it's not some huge revelation that I don't think we've had a situation where the Thanksgiving boot says something in their interviews that completely changes what we had said. So that's good for us. It's kind of like. Yeah. It's kind of like,

you know, after 10 years of doing it this way and, you know, 25 years all over for all around for me, we kind of know what we're doing. We figured it out just a little bit. Yes. I'll give you most of the credit though. Oh, well, thank you. Thank you. Well, thank you. And to follow your lead. Big chunk of those. So it is a little bit crazy, right? Yes. Yeah. Long time. Long time. So I also should mention we had, we had said, Omer Zahir would be here with us this week. So anyone, if you're wondering, you know, where he's hidden on the video or in the audio, something came up for him.

He will be here next week. Mm-hmm. Yes. I think he was worried about that two birds being killed by. one stone because he really loves Burma. I think that's what it was. Yes. And he is fabulous. Yes. All right. Well, before we address how

Sophie did in terms of the rules, we always have some other things to discuss. And let's start with the rules. Specifically, Stephen essentially referenced two of them in this week's episode, talking about the need to separate your emotions from strategy

in rule four. And also how you to adjust your game plans and be flexible as per rule three now it's possible that could have been a coincidence but when i posted a short video about this he commented and he said he loves our gameplay breakdowns so i'm going to say that is not a coincidence it is not and i will say we even though you've started with the rules i do also want to say this was like a stephen heavy episode. It was fantastic. He really stepped it up

and I will forever love the fact that he can, his positive affirmation for himself was a rocket scientist. Yes. When you get to say that about yourself and mean it and like you can do anything, you're a rocket scientist. Yeah,

that's pretty sweet. Yeah. Yeah. That's amazing. That's amazing. As he said, everything was coming up, Stephen. Now, I worry that it won't be next week, but We'll wait till we get to the, I have a theory. I have lots of theories.

It's just a matter of which one is the correct theory. Sure. Yeah, that's true. Now, of course, one reason that Stephen had to discuss the issue of emotions is that so many people were talking about them this week. Mostly because they were mad at someone else or had a strong dislike. But there were also a lot of. rationalizations of people trying to claim their strategy and emotions just happened to line up

when I really think it was a case of making an emotional decision and then cherry picking supposed reasons that this made sense in the game too because oh for sure once again there was a clear shot to take at Savannah and instead they didn't of course yeah we'll talk about what Sophie did to draw this kind of attention in a few minutes and we'll talk about later on independent say why or how different people made their decisions

but arguably it shouldn't have mattered if everyone else followed the fourth rule and it's fascinating that one of the opening scenes was Sage telling Sophie you've just handed Savannah a million dollars and that is what we see in one of the opening scenes and then we have the outcome that we have.

So it was really kind of like, hmm, that's interesting. And I think Sage was pretty clear that this was retaliatory. And that's what it was. And but we will get there. I won't jump ahead. Yeah. And yeah,

I actually just posted a video this morning on that exact topic that, you know, on the one hand, Sage said, you just handed her a million dollars. And then by the end of the episode, she was voting her out. And it's like,

eat a little more, Consistency in that one. Yes, 100%. Yeah. Now, moving to, well, actually, back to Rizzo, it's interesting to me how he is being viewed in the game. And I've been talking to a few people about this, both on Blue Sky and then through text message,

like with Dr. Jeremy Faust. I definitely think he's doing well. his strategy of pushing someone else as the bigger threat has turned into an ongoing thing and it just keeps working even though it really shouldn't the one thing that I worry about for him is that it seems like we keep hearing about Savannah is on the path to win Savannah is the one they have to get out I mean they haven't done it yet but we keep hearing that right right we haven't heard that about him we heard they wanted to get rid of his idol and and maybe him, but lately, by lately, I mean, in the last week or two, it's been Savannah,

Savannah, Savannah. Right. I wonder if that has become one reason people aren't too worried about his idol. And some people were suggesting this even weeks ago, and I poo poohed it. And I said, no, no, come on. They said they wanted to get rid of him. But now, I wonder if they're viewing him like Xander was viewed in 41. Oh, my God, you said the name.

I was going to say he's getting, he's the Xander. He is, I truly feel at this point he is the Zander of the season. Yes. I just, I mean, he shouldn't be and no, no, you know, no slight against Zander, but Zander was not driving the strategy. We see Rizzo driving strategy. But we also thought Zander was doing more than he was. And it wasn't until we saw the jury speaks video.

that we all went, oh, wait, nobody's worried about Zander. Everyone was like, yeah, he's not going to be an issue at the end. I mean, that's a long time ago to remember, but I feel like you and I had picked up, whether it was from interviews or other things, that Zander was not seen as a threat. Nobody worried about him. But yes, there are still, yeah, there were still people saying Zander should have won, you know, they were just watching the TV edit and that's all they got. Right, right.

Yeah, I am I am very much in agreement that there is a Xander-esque component happening here, but I do see a distinct difference. I do think that he is more of a driving force. Yes. And I think for him, his number one is the best number one he could have picked because they're working together in such a way that he's protecting her so much and making things better for her. and by him having an idol that can potentially help her as well. So there's this weird like, yeah, he's not an issue.

We don't need to worry about him maybe if that's what's happening. But they still have to worry about him because of the relationship he has with Savannah. And he still has the idol and he can still use it to save Savannah. So it's a very strange, like kind of cat and mouse game that they're playing with this idol because they know exactly where it is, which is why I'm hoping, hoping, hoping, hoping that my girl, Sophie. does the right thing. Yes. Yeah.

Now, I think that the reason he's not being taken as seriously is Savannah, as we've previously discussed, has this kind of more intense

and in-your-face personality that puts her front and center while Rizzo's fun personality, like he played a fake idol for no reason for chits and giggles, basically. It was literally for that. Yes.

Yes. You know, I, it, he, I think, that that makes people see him as less of a threat.

And if you're not the one in those conversations with him, and you don't realize how he's manipulating people to do what he wants them to do, I think you're just not seeing it. And if that is the case, it's going to be difficult for him

to win, even with the moves he has made. I don't disagree. And if he's sitting next to Savannah, he's definitely not winning. Right. He needs to get rid of her before the end so he can claim credit for all the moves without her out talking him. Right. Yeah.

No, and I think that that's going to be a very interesting moment that we'll see because if they are sitting next to each other, it's going to be incredibly difficult for him, I think, to defend anything that he did outside of working directly with Savannah. She will certainly take the credit

for it. And I think the credit will be given to her because of all of the reasons that you've just said. She seems to be much more the front and center individual that people are focusing on in addition to her challenge wins. So she's got that, you know, it's kind of like cherry on top. And she also has the extra vote that she played correctly. She actually used it in a way that we don't see people often do when they have an extra vote. So I do think that for Rizzo, he has put himself in a very, very precarious situation

by tying himself to Savannah, who is playing an incredible game. And he's supposed to, supporting that incredible game, but he feels like he's really killing it, right? So I don't know if he's, if he's going to actually see it. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. We'll find out. Now, do you have anything or anyone else you want to discuss before we move into the rules for Sophie? I do. I have a question for you, actually, because, yes, I wanted to see what your thoughts were on this, because I've been trying to kind of bring it around in my head. Now, Stephen, who had to do an insane amount of work to get the advantage that he got, which I don't think the advantage he got is worth all of the work that he had to do to get it. That was a whole lot.

But why is it? Steal a vote is better than the block of vote, at least in Rizzo's mind. Well, just because steal a vote basically block. that person from voting and gives you an extra vote at the same time but it doesn't necessarily change the numbers because even if you just block a vote you still have a majority by blocking that one i mean if you're tied yeah if like in this in the upcoming you know what we expect i think to be a three three tie he can make it into a three two instead but in this like in the seven person let's say it had been four three against

him. He could have made it for three against or in his favor by stealing a vote. I see. I was just kind of working through this. I'm like, well, but I guess I was looking at it with the six and not the seven. I'm like, well, even if you block a vote, then that person can't vote so they're still down one. So I was just

curious about that. Yeah. Because I was like, hmm, that's strange. Why it was but also props to Rizzo for basically figuring out what it was, but not being completely correct. So, he's clearly paying attention to the types of advantages that are doled out at this point. I think Sophie said in one of her interviews, he's like this, I don't know if she called him this or it just popped into my mind, a survivor savant, like he has dug into all of that type of stuff.

It sounds like it very much. But yeah, I was very curious about just that component. But yes, we can definitely get on to speaking about Ms. Sophie Sogretti. Okay. Well, first, you know, let me mention, of course, there were other things going on. We just can't dedicate all our time here to doing that, so or to talk you about that. So, you know, check out my TikTok and YouTube at David Bloomberg TV. As I mentioned, some of it's already there.

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game. Meanwhile, Sage said in the episode, she did this to herself. In a way, they're both right. But by no means do those statements fully explain what happened. Even if Sophie was a threat, there are a lot of threats still left in this game. And the people made decisions based on Sophie's actions, though it's somewhat questionable whether or not those were the right decisions. Let's dig into the rest of the explanation, because at RHAP, we know Survivor and we know why Sophie lost. Now, the first and most important rule is, of course, to scheme and plot. And last week, we saw how Sophie had really come into her own in this regard. But of course, we didn't have a good picture of how she was doing early in the game

because, as you mentioned earlier, she was more purple Sophie than yellow. Yeah, yeah. But she talked about it in her interviews saying that she was having strategic conversations and she did have allies. She just didn't have that ride or die number one. Instead, she was the third person in a few different situations. And I'm thinking maybe a better description was the third wheel. yeah indeed she said her biggest critique of her own game was that she needed that ride or die

especially as a physical challenge player because you won't always win the challenges and you need help keeping yourself safe when you when you don't much like you mentioned for riso helping savannah and you know we'll talk about some other things she said related to this aspect in the fifth rule but it is an interesting idea of course there's no way to go back in time and see how things would have gone if she had found that ride or die or even who it would have been. But we saw some scenes on the show and other interviews that have indeed suggested she could have been out first if original Hina had gone to tribal council. And she had no real idea where she stood among that group until after the MC vote.

As Alex told Gordon Holmes a couple weeks ago, she thought she was in a better position than she was a lot of the time. But of course, when she realized it, she changed things up and started to move around some more. Yeah, and I do think that, though, I don't want to jump ahead to Rule 5. I see them being very intertwined because I do think that she had a much more difficult time actually scheming and plotting the way that she necessarily needed to because she wasn't connecting with the people on her tribe because she was struggling making those social connections. And so I think that she certainly made attempts to do well with this. And she certainly indicated in her exit press that we just didn't see it because I didn't show her, as you indicated, that she was having those strategic conversations.

But I think those conversations hit differently when there is that connection as well with the person that you're having the conversation with. If they felt like she was a number, which is something she indicated to in her exit press, that she really started to feel like she was just a number. number as opposed to someone that they could work with directly and wanted to. It was like, oh, well, no, Sophie can vote with us too. And so that, again, feels different for someone who is in that situation, that you are not as important as you necessarily want to be because you are not calling the shots.

You might be involved in the conversations, but you are not pushing things in a particular direction. And as you indicated, we did see her now kind of coming into her own and saying, you know what, I'm going to make this decision and people were allowing her to do that. And I think that gave her more confidence to then push a little bit more because now she had people that were willing to work with her and listen to her and give her an opportunity to make the decision. So I do see this being an interesting mix for her as far as those connections that were lacking

and how it affected her ability to strategize. Yeah. And of course, I would say her biggest decision was last week, whether to go with Rizzo Savannah and Blue Sophie, or to go with Sage Joanne and the other two original Hina. Last week, I said, she chose to go with a foursome rather than a group of five, so that puts her in a better position, especially with Final Four firemaking. Maybe more importantly, she probably doesn't feel she can trust Stephen and Christina after they showed their cards with their surprise at the MC vote result.

And indeed, I have to, excuse me, I'm going to pat myself on the back here, because I hit the nail on the head with that one. She talked about aspects of that in her interview with Rob, and then she also told Dalton Ross, if I had voted out Savannah, I would now be at the bottom of two duos, Stephen and Christina, who have proven that they don't really trust me. And then Sage and Joanne. And so it was really just math at that point where being at the bottom of five is worse than being at the bottom of four. So, even like I said, we've been doing this for a while. Even with the outcome this week, I agree that Sophie has made the right choice, you know, even though it ended up the way it did. Yeah.

And I do think that she's the focus for her is what we want so many people when they play this game to have the focus beat. Right. And that's winning the game. Right. So for her, making it to four is certainly better than five or six because there is fire. she's prepared. She's like, I know how to make a fire. And so she's it to win it, which I do really appreciate where the decisions that she's making are very Sophie-centered. They're very much about what's going to make her game better. And she was even willing to express that to Sage when having

these conversations that I have to do what's best for my game. It might not be best for yours. And I think this is a really big struggle for a lot of people that play this game, is that you have to find that balance how you are going to get to the end in a way that's going to benefit you but also not upset those around you and have it happen like it did with Sophie where now all of a sudden you're on the outs because you made the decision that was better for you yes which is what a lot of a lot of the rest of the podcast will be about it you know the you know that last thing you said about well okay you make your decision but you know the we dropped one shoe the next upcoming rules are going to drop the other shoe multiple times.

And yeah, I mean, obviously what happened this week was the people she chose to go with flipped on her along with the people she flipped against. Everyone went against her. And looking back, she said in her interviews that there were a few things that should have tipped her off. Now, the one that's applicable to this rule is that Rizzo, Savannah, and Blue Sophie told her they were voting for Christina. That was their decoy claim, saying it would have been better to vote out Stephen, but he won immunity, so Christina was next up. And she now says that looking back,

she should have seen through that because it didn't really make sense in that Christina was not a threat. But I actually want to cut her some slack here. I think Christina as the alternate target does make sense. It could easily be argued that, Okay, they had their for some. They weren't going to vote out anyone there. Sage had worked with them before. So they'd want to keep her close. That only leaves Stephen and Christina.

Stephen had immunity. So Christina is the obvious one. I think it makes perfect sense from a strategic numbers situation in the moment. Looking back, yeah, she could say that because she knows. Hindsight's 2020. But I don't think she should be kicking herself over that. Yeah, no, I do agree with that assessment because it is a numbers thing at this point. And you want to make sure that you have the votes to carry things forward.

And if you are so worried about Stephen, isn't it nice to take out Stevens second? Because then he doesn't have the support system that we just talked about Savannah having through Rizzo. So you end up kind of putting him on an island on his own. and then he has to win immunity if he wants to stay in the game because there's literally nobody that's going to be fighting for him. No, he was on the island on his own during the journey. He definitely, my gosh, that poor man. God, he ran around the entire island.

I love that they, like, they did the above shot so you could see everywhere he actually had to go. Oh, gosh. That was a lot. Yeah. I'm impressed, Stephen. I'm impressed. All right, well, we can move on to the second rule.

as we start getting into the, you know, the other shoes, as we mentioned. It says not to scheme and plot too much and to keep your scheming secret. Remember last week when I talked about that opening scene of Rizzo explaining that he voted out Alex the prior time because he was visibly playing the middle and it gave him a better position than Rizzo. And so therefore Rizzo voted out Jawan, who, you know, was argued in a similar situation to Alex. Well, guess what? Now he voted out Sophie, who also played the middle and flip. Rizzo really does not like flip floppers.

He is working hard to ensure that Dan Foley was right when he said the immortal words, flippers never win. Well, I mean, that is a very real concern because where does your loyalty lie then? How can you rely upon this person if they are flipping? Yeah, that's fair. So now, of course, as we discussed in the first rule, the fact that she flipped, does not automatically mean she was over scheming, as, you know, as we talked about, it was actually the correct decision.

You can even say that the fact that she immediately wanted to flip against Savannah wasn't an issue because some of them only found that out after they decided to vote her out. So you can't say that's a reason. Oh, yeah. When they already decided, you know, that was part of, you know, Savannah even said that. Oh, I already wanted her out. and now I find out she's coming against me. Okay, so that didn't play in the real decision then.

But just overall, she had recently been putting herself out there as having a very clear strategic outlook. At the split tribal council, it got spread all over that she was playing hard because she was going to write down Joanne's name as a ballpark. And, you know, even though the move made sense, she was absolutely right to do it.

she shouldn't have told anyone. And then she lectured all of us at home. And as I mentioned on the podcast that week, by my estimation, she also was lecturing former survivor players in saying at tribal council how they surpassed high school level survivor and they were in the toughest grad school class. It was simple when it came to idols, but things are much more complicated now. And of course, there is no such thing as an easy vote anymore. All of these, it doesn't matter what we thought of them at home.

But they all also conveyed a particular strategic mindset that could raise red flags. Yes. And I think the biggest component that was attached to Sophie from just a little bits and pieces you could put together from people talking about her. Yes, she was a challenge beast and they were very cognizant of that. But they were also like, she's really smart and she's putting stuff together. And so she is someone who I do think was constantly running the numbers, which is exactly why she was wanting to go back and forth and why she was making the decision she was making. It was about how can I make myself get further in this game.

But I do agree. She didn't need to tell anybody about her plan to put down Joanne's name because she could have just done that and still protected herself and not outed herself in that moment. So yes, I do think that she struggled. there by sharing, but we also learned that she thought she had a close relationship with MC. She thought that she was able to share with her. But again, this goes back to that.

Did she really have the social connections that she needed to have those conversations that really mattered in those moments? Because if you compare it to Rizzo and Savannah, if Rizzo and Savannah had had the same conversation, it wouldn't have come back to either of that. Right, it was locked up. So that's really, I think, where Sophie ended up struggling the most is even, trying to scheme a plot too much she couldn't because she didn't have anybody to scheme a plot with well yeah yeah but it made her try harder and it made her put out there more

which you know contributed to that image yes all right well the third rule tells players to be flexible now we already discussed some of her flip-flopping but overall how do you think she did here well i think she did what she needed to do so she probably did it well though it didn't set well with others because she was going back and forth and kind of changing her mind, but she was doing that in a way that made sense for what she needed at the time. And I do think her explanations that she provided in the exit press make it make even more sense. You're like, oh, well, that's why she did it because she's looking at the numbers. And so she wanted to be flexible, but she was doing it in a way that would have furthered her game. So though it was good for her, it ended up being bad for her

because it made people think she was a blip-flopper. Yeah. Yeah, I do think she was flexible. She, you know, she showed it by being willing to move around the game board and also by changing her mind as circumstances shifted. You know, just a few weeks ago in episode seven, she said, I'm tired of Rizzo and Savannah. They're playing really hard. I want them to go home.

But then when it made sense for her to work with them as we discussed, that's what she did. And in the process, she was acting as something of a free agent and, getting information from all sides, which she could then use to help her, whichever way she decided to go. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So, all right. Well, the fourth rule tells players not to let their emotions control them. As I mentioned earlier, and will again, in a little while,

a number of players were making decisions based on emotions this week. But Sophie was not one of them. Even earlier, in the split tribal council vote, we saw her decide to vote out MC, despite them being what she thought was close, because she believed it was the best option once all hell broke loose there. I continued to disagree with that assessment, but that's a different matter. She made the decision for the right reason, even if it was the wrong decision. There was, however, one instance of her admittedly playing emotionally, and that was last episode.

she told Mike Bloom, the reason that I chose Joanne is because I was close with Sage. I was playing a little bit with my heart, not going to lie. I had a closer relationship with Sage, and she had also proven to trust me and clude me in on things and really had my back. And in retrospect, maybe I should have just voted her out and stuck with Joanne. Yeah. But I also, I was curious when I was reading this too, though, because if she, She had kept, was she even working with Joanne at all? No.

So it's one of those situations where if she doesn't have anybody to strategize with, is it a terrible idea that she chose the one person who was kind of strategizing with her? You know, even though I know she. You mean to stay or, right. I mean, to stay. Yes. But that only matters if that person. will be willing to strategize with you afterwards. And if you need them to.

And if you're taking out that person's number one, then we have exactly what we saw where Sage is very frustrated and upset with Sophie and decided it was her mission to seek revenge against Sophie. So yeah,

I could see why that didn't end up. And that's exactly it. You know, she talked about this. Part of the reason she said it was that, you know, because of how Sage ended up reacting. She continued to Mike in doing so because we had that close bond in breaking her trust, it was so much worse. Okay. That makes sense. Yes. Yeah. Which moves up nicely into the fifth rule, which reminds players they need to pretend to be nice and play the social game.

And by taking out Sage's absolute closest ally and friend, she really hit a nerve that made Sage completely focus all her energy against her. Sophie told Mike Bloom, the biggest red flag that I should have realized was just how devastated Sage was with the Jawan vote. At one point, I'm like, I'm not going to apologize. And in retrospect, I knew that she and Jawan were close. I don't think I grasped how personally that would hurt her. And I thought that her dislike of Savannah, which she had been so very open about up until

this point in winding her out, which. without way my great betrayal in getting out juan and i think i just really read that wrong sage was down bad those couple of days it was quite emotional and clearly very very upset and i think had i just kind of clued in a little bit more i would have been like oh she is so much more upset about joan than she's ever been about savannah you got to do a little damage control here yeah i mean it's good that she sees it now, you know, that's one thing I'll say about Sophie. She has taken a look back at her game and she has pretty well objectively analyzed it. We may not agree across the board.

And I may be, like we said, I may be cutting her more slack than she cut herself in certain areas. But a lot of players come off and they would not have realized this. They would have just said, ah, Sage needed to get over it. But Sophie realized this, oh, I needed to do. do something to help Sage get over it. But she didn't see it at the time. She didn't do the damage control. She was missing two key aspects of the social game there.

Yeah. Well, and interestingly enough, one of the things that she noted about herself in her initial like introductory press was that she was worried about her social game. She had a, she had a concern about having a great social game. And so she did recognize that in herself. She also mentioned, who cares if you hurt people's feelings. So I feel like that, you know, if you're going into the game, realizing that I have a legitimate concern about the type of social game I'm going to play, and I don't care if I hurt people's feelings. We saw this all come to fruition with what happened with Sage.

And it's after the fact where she's realizing, oh, maybe I should have taken that into consideration more than I did, because not everybody plays Survivor, the same way Sophie was playing it, which was very kind of method. and buy the numbers and how do I get to the end and how do I win? You have someone like Sage who is forming a bond with someone so much so that she's putting the million dollars aside so she can seek revenge against this person. And so it is, it is an interesting component that people have to be aware of when they're playing the game that not everybody is looking at it in that same light. Right. And yeah, I mean, yeah, last week I said I was happy to hear her say about the reward that

she felt bad for people at camp who weren't eating, but at the same time, this is a million dollar game and I want that money for myself. And then later, she said exactly what you mentioned. I'm going to piss off some of these people, but I have to remind myself, this is a game for a million dollars. Be ruthless, be strategic and make nice when you're a millionaire back home. Those are great thoughts from a strategic standpoint. Yes. But you have to balance them if you know you're going to make people angry, like you said. And that did seem to be where some of her issues were because not only did she piss off Jeff by dissing his fruit as a reward earlier in the game, but Alex told Dalton Ross, she rubbed people, sorry, she rubbed some people

the wrong way with how much she talked about her choice of words or and her choice of words at Matt chats. She didn't really have the relationships that others of us had in the game. So clearly, yeah, she was pissing people off. And in a way, and by no means am I comparing the two, in a way, it reminds me of Russell Hans. You know, Russell Hans said, well, I'm doing my strategy and that's all the matters. And, you know, he twice claimed he should have won because it shouldn't matter if you piss people off. Now, Sophie didn't say. Well, those are the people that are voting to decide who wins a million dollars.

So, yeah, it doesn't matter whether or not to keep you. So. Right. yeah exactly uh so i mean you know russell was the cause for emphasizing more of the you know rule five this very rule the social game after he lost back to back that way it had to be emphasized even more in the rules yeah so i mean she also had besides the pissing off issue she had some other things going on because you know going back to the split tribal council decision. One reason

Rizzo gave for wanting to vote out MC instead of Sophie was that Sophie's web of connections extended to nobody, according to him. And referencing back to the early part of the game when we didn't really see her, in addition to what she said in interviews about not having a ride

or die, she also told Dalton Ross, I didn't go hard enough socially early on because I was worried about seeming too eager and playing too hard. And I think that's what ended up biting me in the end because MC was more loyal to Stephen than she was to me. I feel like I was trying to keep my options open and be friends with lots of people.

And it was a little bit of a jack of all trades, master of none in that situation. Yeah, that's a really great way to explain it for sure. Yeah. So, so yeah, you know, I mean, that's, this was definitely a big thing, the social aspect, the pretending to be nice is. If you know you're pissing people off, you have to do something to try and reel them back in, not just say, I'm not going to apologize. And there's also something to be said when you are, it's like a combination, right? You know that you're pissing people off.

You also know that you're beating people in challenges. Right. And you also know that there are groups forming around you and you are not part of those groups. So it's, it is like a, it's like a perfect storm of things that are going to work against you in the end. because you don't have anything that is going to help you get through that part of the game or any part of the game because you could be the person pissing everyone off. But if you've got a ride or die that's helping keep you there, then that can be a huge benefit to you. But if you don't, well, then people are going to be focusing on while she's pissing people off. So, yeah, it is a very tough spot to find yourself in when you have all of these things that can work against.

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does not happen to you. If you're voted out as a threat, okay, it's a compliment to that aspect of your game, but it's a criticism of this rule, how you did in this rule. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I do think that Sophie's challenge wins were certainly a concern that people had, especially when you get to this part of the game where it is individual immunity that people are fighting for. And so if you are winning, then that's something I could work against you. However, we saw Savannah, happy that Sophie was there because that is a little bit of a shield for her. So again, it can work for you, but it can also work against you. And I do think that we heard a lot of people talk about their concern with her ability. She spoke very well and she seemed like she was very aware of the game

and that she could probably argue her point very well. So I do think that people saw her as a threat, but I think the biggest threat component came from what we've already talked about is her not having loyalty to anyone and that can become a great concern because if Sophie decides well, you're next because now I need to get to the end and you're a threat to me getting to the end. So then Sophie becomes a threat to everyone because nobody knows where her loyalty actually lies. Yeah, I mean, I didn't even, you know, have that in my list of reason she was a threat that adds on. You know, it's a very good point. What I was more focused on was the other two aspects, which was, I mean, we started to see why some people wanted to target her as a threat, a challenge threat.

Before we even knew who she was, you know, she even told Mike Bloom, almost from day one, Christina was kind of like, we need to get Sophie out at least early in the merge. If we get there, she's got to go. And, you know, I said last week that Sophie was silly to believe Savannah was a shableness. shield for her and then if anything she was a shield for Savannah well look what happened and who went out first the shield mm-hmm yeah and then on top of that a number of players talked about how Sophie would look good in the final tribal council because she was the only one who voted correctly every time oh yes there was that too yeah both Rizzo and Savannah promoted that idea to different people I'm sure it was probably planned as another lobbying effort sure much like when

Rizzo was making Alex out to be a huge threat a couple weeks ago. But this was even better because it was true and everyone could see it. It was something that was out there. You didn't need an imagination to see that. It added a strategic element to her threat resume. Yeah, for sure. So now with your part, too, the loyalty, that's three different ways that she was a threat. And, you know, yeah, then on top of that, I guess you could call it.

at a fourth, it came out that Sophie was indeed trying to target Rizzo. Like I said earlier, they wanted her out before then, but this was, in the words of Rizzo eventually, the cherry on top. Yeah. I mean, oftentimes the people are looking for one reason to vote people out, and Sophie was giving them a lot of reasons to vote her out. Just in this rule. That's, yes, just in this rule.

Okay. well, we can go to yet another rule, the seventh, which covers idols and advantages and she didn't have any idols or advantages. She knew about people who did, and she was among those who purposely did not target Rizzo in his idol. Seeing what her eventual plan was, I can understand her not wanting to vote him out. So although it was upsetting at the time, I think I'm okay with that part looking back well and was she involved at all in the sharing of christina having an idol or was that just yeah she passed everything along because stage passed it to her and you know there was three three you know three fastest forms of communication were telephone telegraph and

telesophy yeah uh if we still did hashtags that's the hashtag tell Sophie. So, yeah. Now, one place that I do think she should have done something different in this rule, although by the time I get done with this, we're going to find out it probably didn't matter. But I think she needed to fight to go on that journey rather than just letting Stephen do it. Yes.

That is so true. Like, why did they all just kind of roll over and be like, well, I don't want to get tired for immunity challenge, though? yes it was strenuous I mean she did expand a little in her interviews you know I mean she knew he was seen as a fellow threat a viable target

and sure he ended up winning the immunity challenge even after doing the strenuous work so it didn't matter maybe that's why he was so tired he couldn't walk fast so he had to walk that slow so you know that's how he didn't like the spinny thing the really I don't think Jeff did

either because Jeff said in the on fire podcast yeah maybe we go back maybe we don't use this version anymore. Yeah, it was not, there was one drop. That was it. It was one. Yeah. Yeah.

I didn't like that. So I, she didn't know, of course, he would win the immunity challenge. So why give this guy a possible advantage? But she said in her interview, she worried it might be something like MC and Nate went on earlier. And she saw how wrecked MC was when she came back. And that's why she didn't want to risk it. Now, I would.

We'll say even if she had gone and gotten the voting block advantage, I don't think it would have mattered. She talked about how Savannah had previously told her about Savannah's extra vote. And just in general, she liked the sharing of information as a means of forming bonds. So I bet she would have done that with at least a couple people, whichever side it might have been that she was going with. And because they were all working together, word would have spread. They would have realized also, oh, it doesn't matter. We're voting her out unanimously. She can block a vote.

Who cares? Right. But again, that's all hindsight. I still think she should have given it a shot so that Stephen couldn't. But by her own admission in interviews, she felt like she was in a comfortable spot. Yes. Yeah, all good points. All right.

Well, then we can go to Appendix A, which discusses players keeping their end goals in mind when voting. we talk about voting out the week then the strong then the week than the strong and as I've said for the past few weeks at this portion of the game you typically want to get out someone who is still strong on the opposing side for some of them

Sophie was indeed on the opposing side but you know who else was Savannah I did the same thing to you that Savannah did also they get you know they you get one guess me and it's like no you got to give us time to make the guess

they again had the chance to get rid of Savannah and they took out someone else instead. I know. It's incredible to me. Yes. Once again, they built up someone other than the person who is already built up. Yeah.

This person has been sitting there. They're built so high up there on a dang mountain. But then somehow you build a taller, you keep building taller mountains. Yeah. And usually they're building those taller mountains out of mole hills. I, it's, Rizzo once again presented the other side

with this quote, common enemy instead of himself or his allies. And they bought it. Well, I think they certainly did, which is, which is, I'm stunned that they did. But I also think that you had, like, you could see, like Sage was seething. She was so upset.

She was so angry. and so I think Rizzo just leaned in hard on that too where you have you have an opportunity to take advantage of someone else emotionally at that moment and I'm certain that he just played right into that with her as well like can you believe I don't know if he saw it's hard to say we saw no sure almost no interaction there

but it's possible he saw that and realized it too I'm trying to think because there was like there was one scene where it was where sage was mentioned oh yeah no sage is definitely on board so there had to have been some conversations that were had but yes it is fascinating to me that while Sophie I think was certainly a threat to a lot of them in a final three situation Savannah is too and you can rile the troops or rally the troops whatever you want to like next time if you want to go after Sophie like now's your chance and yes you still have Rizzo's idol to contend with and think about but numbers are only dwindling and you're only losing the ability to get the momentum back

towards Savannah and you've now voted out someone who wanted to vote out Savannah right you know everyone says they want to take out Savannah everyone says they want to take out Rizzo or at least his idol and nobody does it either no and and yeah we've been you know we've been saying throughout the podcast that some people were playing emotionally. And like you mentioned, that's exactly what happened here. Sage said, I've been pitching Savannah since day one, but at this point, I'm freaking pissed at Sophie. And then throughout the episode, almost every time she talked about wanting to get Sophie out, she would name a strategic reason and an emotional one. For example, she said, Sophie is smart and in tune. Quote, and I could get some revenge. And, you know, she said she's a

huge challenge threat and it would double as revenge for joan so there was there was always that emotional aspect of things right you know at tribal council sage said if you're looking at game and emotional or emotional the easy vote is revenge game that might not be the same case but if someone's game decision also gives them a little bit of revenge too i'm not hating on it here's the thing to. Here's the thing, though. It's really easy to talk yourself into believing you're voting someone out for strategic reasons when you're already mad at them. Yes. And it wasn't. What she said is if you're voting someone out for strategic reasons, then if someone's game decision also gives them

the revenge. But it was the other way around. It was someone's revenge, wanting revenge, could also be backfilled into making it look like a game decision because you know you cherry pick the reasons most of us doing in our own lives if you're someone you don't like and they're doing something you're more likely to nitpick things about them that you would blow off if they were your friends well right yes and i think that sophie was the perfect type of mix of components than allowed Sage to do this because Sage did have all of those other qualities that did make her a potential threat in a final three. But then on top of it, or excuse me, Sophie had had all of those qualities. And then on top of it, she had turned on Sage's number one ally. And so it is an extra component. So yes, you can take all of those things and go, well, there's this, this.

And now there's this too. Right. Instead of, well, there's this, this. and those existed before. And yes, we have this other thing. But this is a game for a million dollars. And so she explained to me her reasons why she voted him out. Like she literally sat down with her immediately after the tribal council and said,

these are all of the reasons why. And all of the reasons why she wanted, when I say she, Sage wanted to vote out Savannah, haven't gone away because Jawan got voted out. Like they are still in existence. And if you get rid of Sophie, your ability to get rid of Savannah, who you have been trying to get rid of Savannah, who you have been trying to get of since the beginning of this game basically are less now

because the numbers are that much less and you're putting yourself in just a terrible position to try to make any real moves considering who's left. Yeah. I mean, revenge was clearly the driving force.

The strategic elements were thrown in as a rationalization after the fact for a decision that had all. been made and then meanwhile Rizzo and Savannah are over there fanning the flames to ensure that sage stayed hot like you said earlier yeah I do wonder I hadn't thought about this earlier I do wonder much like in previous votes we've been saying oh they didn't know about the extra vote they didn't know about the uh about the knowledge is power so they thought they would have time to do these other things.

I wonder if Stephen getting his advantage helped Sage figure out or feel like, eh, we're going to have three, they're going to have three, and Stephen has an advantage, which Rizzo, at least,

is going around telling everyone is a steal of a vote. Oh, that's interesting. So we will have six to do this. But again, if they're thinking about this, this is just me, you know, pulling that out of the air. surmising a little bit.

If they were thinking that way, again, it goes back to what I said, probably last week and the week before, which was you don't know what you don't know in Survivor. Right. Right. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Go with what you got. Make the move. Strike while the iron is hot. Mm-hmm. 100%. Yeah. In this case, it was strike while sage is red hot.

Which was not the right choice. No. All right. Well, we have Appendix B, which discusses the jury phase. And we've already discussed how one reason targeting Sophie made sense was that she was indeed a threat if she made it to the end. But I don't think she was nearly as big a threat as she was made out to be. You know, as we talked about, she didn't really have those social connections and people were frequently annoyed with her. Her flip-flopping wouldn't have helped probably, even though she could use it to say that's how.

she stayed on the right side of the vote all the time. And even the part about being a challenge beast would not have been terribly convincing when she had the same number of individual wins as Savannah and Stephen as of now. Mm-hmm. You know, plus Savannah and Stephen both got advantages. So, you know, right now, she wasn't even ahead in that regard. Yeah. Which leads back to the same point we've been talking about that this wasn't really taking

out a big final tribal council threat. It was about all the other factors we've already discussed. And I am curious too because we've talked about this quite a bit when someone is in the final three and if there's a moment where you have to choose between this

person and that person, perhaps you choose the person that you like more. We've seen that happen. And so if she is sitting there and if she's frustrated people who are on the jury, what are they going to base their decision on if it comes down to her against another person who they might like better.

Yeah, I think that this group is pretty game oriented. I think they will be making the decision based on game. But like you said, I think that could be a deciding factor. If two people are there who scored about the same on the, you know, their game test, one puts it a little higher up. Right. Yeah. That's why I have a theory.

Yeah. You have a theory. Well, now is the time for your theory, I think, if now is when you're going to do it, because it's time to wrap things up and for you to give us your final thoughts about Sophie. Well, Sophie, you weren't my winner pick, Sophie, but you were still a great option as a potential winner pick because we like the Sophies. And I will say that I was curious about Sophie from the start and I was going back looking at some of the notes I had taken.

Now, she was an alternate for season 48. If she's an alternate, that means she's probably got some good things in the cooker, right? We've learned, I've learned, Rachel, I'm sorry, I've learned that alternates can go on and win the game. And so I looked at her immediately and thought, well, she's probably got some good things because she was an alternate for another season. So I was curious how that was going to work out for her. However, if we remember, one of the biggest issues that we talked about pregame was Matt's dislike of the person that had the next. with the curse of writing on it. And that was, yes, and that was the Sophie.

And so it started right from the rip, right? It started before the actual game actually started where Sophie, with an E, was already rubbing people the wrong way a little bit. And that was just pregame. And we saw her struggle with this in-game. She admitted openly in her exit press that one of her biggest mistakes was not having a ride or die. I think Sophie came into this game very mathematically

that looking at the numbers and if I do this, that will put me over here. If I do that, that will put me over here. Where am I going to fall within this number alignment? Am I going to move up? Am I going to move down? Unfortunately, Survivor is not always about a game of math. Yes, you have to be aware of the numbers.

You have to be aware of where that's going to put you. But at the same time, you need somebody next to you. You need that plus one. That's math too, right? You need that plus one to get you further in the game, which we see Rizzo and Savannah helping each other throughout this process. Sophie didn't have that person. She didn't have that ride or die. She was a number that was helping other people bring about the votes that they wanted.

And eventually she was allowed to make a decision as to who she wanted to have go home. But it was still for the benefit of the others around her. And going back and forth and deciding where she thought was. going to bring her further in the game, ended up ultimately becoming part of her downfall because she was seen as a flip-flopper. She was seen as someone who didn't go along with other people the way that they necessarily wanted her to.

And unfortunately, her game time decision of, I'm going to choose Joanne as my vote out because it's going to fix the numbers portion of my game turned into the exact reason why Sage wanted her to go home. And that was clearly revenge. And so you have to be mindful in this game of emotionally how you are affecting those around you and the relationships that you formed. And if you upset someone so much, you can find yourself being voted out for that very reason because not everybody is playing this game with the numbers like Sophie was doing. So it was great to see her being a challenge beast.

I loved watching her win. Sad to see her go. But my Sophie winner pick is still here. So I'm at least okay with that. So I started the rules section of the podcast by mentioning the Sophie took it as a compliment that they blindsided her this way because it was, it meant she was a threat. And I mentioned that again in in that rule. And yes, it's true. She was indeed a threat, but that mostly means she didn't do a good enough job of hiding her threat level.

Plus, there were other threats in the game, such as Savannah, who's been seen as one for a while now. The fact that everyone decided to go after Sophie instead shows there was more going on here. Part of it is, as Sage said, she did this to herself. And she did. She began the game not being strategic or social enough. When she realized she was in trouble, she shifted into a new game gear and she became very strategic. That helped her game in one way, but it hurt her and others. She was thinking strategically, but not socially.

As much as I say, people shouldn't let their emotions control them. Most of the people you play with on Survivor are human and have those emotions. So you need to be wary of how your actions and words will impact them. She admittedly wasn't paying close attention to that, and she pissed off sage so much. It even overcame her previous focus on getting rid of Savant. Plus, her openly strategic statements and actions raised red flags, whether for real or is an easy excuse to get people to focus on her. She could be painted as not just a challenge threat, but as a strategic one as well,

and as you mentioned, a loyalty threat. And that all just piled on to the emotion-based decision already being made against her. She was a threat. She did it to herself. But others also did it to her by focusing a magnifying glass on both of those things and by making decisions that were not in their best interests long term. And that is why Sophie lost. There we are.

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he is. So speak to them about your link tree, David, and all of the places that they can find you and your content. Well, that is at Link Tree slash David Bloomberg. You could find me directly on Blue Sky is at David Bloomberg. And on the video sites, TikTok, YouTube, Instagram. I have been posting two or three reality TV short videos every day where I'm at David Bloomberg TV. Now, most of those videos are about Survivor 49 plus the Traders Canada season three. Now, I am also co-hosting the Tradar podcast for the Traders Canada each week. So you could check out the Tradar, T-R-A-I-D-A-R, either wherever you get podcasts or we're on YouTube as well. all right well now it is time for predictions your favorite and i mentioned earlier i have theories

i have many theories i love this all but one of them will be wrong it's possible one all the one uh it's possible all of them will be wrong the the preview tells us lines are drawn It's an all-out war. And all I could think of was, wow, imagine how much different that war would be if one of the generals had been taken out this week. It's crazy, right? It's so crazy. Nothing we could do about that now. The lines are obvious.

Rizzo, Savannah, and Sophie versus Sage, Stephen, and Christina. As we mentioned earlier, the block of vote should give Stevens side the majority, three, two. Especially because Sophie doesn't know, she can't. steal his advantage because we need to make sure people understand that yes please explain that yeah because he officially plays it before tribal council she plays her thing in tribal council now those of us talking about it on blue sky already figured this out just by looking at the rules for each but dalton did confirm this with uh with you know um with jeff and and and posted about that that guy yes. I almost said with Rob

like Rob would have any, you know, but if it wasn't, I would have serious issues with the way they wrote the rules for both of those. So thankfully, they knew what they were doing in this case. They don't need a rule checker like you. They do need a rule checker usually.

But not for that one. For that one, they got it right. This one's pretty blatantly obvious, you know. So yes, she can't steal it, but she doesn't know that. So she may well try to. I figure there are two primary outcomes I could see. Either, well, at the start of thinking this through, I did.

Either Sophie decides to flip and steal Rizzo's idol, and then everyone but Savannah votes him out. Okay, that's one possibility. Or Sophie stays loyal but pretends to flip in order to find out who the other side will be voting out, then passes that information back so Rizzo can use his idol appropriately. the problem with the second scenario is I really find it hard to believe that Sage Stephen and Christina would trust Sophie enough to tell her that information

she would have to really convince them she's anti-Savana for that to be the case I don't know that it's possible I don't think that's happening but maybe she really is anti-Savana and knows taking out those two is the only way she can win then she just doesn't pass along information, she lets it happen, or she takes Rizzo's idol to ensure that he doesn't use it on himself or Savannah. And then Sophie herself has the idol for final five to be safe. Yes. So that's a possibility. And then the last one I came up with is that

Savannah wins the immunity challenge, meaning Rizzo is the obvious target. But they all know he has an idol and would be a fool not to finally use it at this point. So Sage, Stephen, and Christina plan to vote out Sophie. But of course, Sophie would see this coming as well, just like we can see this as a possibility. So she could steal Rizzo's idol and use it on herself immediately, not as a goal to get rid of Rizzo, but as a goal to save herself. All three of those votes don't count, but the two remaining votes go to Sage or Stephen. And the more I thought about this, the more I like this prediction. So this is the one I'm going to go with. Considering how much they wanted Stephen out previously, it seems very clear to me he will be the next target. So

unfortunately, I'm going to predict it goes from everything's coming up Stephen to all the votes are coming up, Stephen. And he has his torch stuff next week, unfortunately. You really think so I do I am leaning towards a Stephen win at this point because I would I'd be happy with that certainly I would be happy with that too because I feel like he's had this kind of like slow build which I very much appreciated about his his game and the way that he's been portrayed but also we've seen him in challenges and he's doing well I certainly think that there's going to be a lot of crazy things that are happening this week

but I do think that he is going to win immunity. This is what I think he's going to end up winning immunity and that's going to put Savannah in a very tough spot. And I do think we are going to see my girl Sophie do what she should have done or what she needs to do and that is steal the idol from Rizzo so they can vote out Savannah because she has already said to both not just other people but also in her confessionals, I cannot sit next to Savannah. She knows that. She understands that she can't sit next to Savannah. And so I think that there is a world in which she comes to that realization that I need to do this now if I'm going to make it happen because my chances of doing so are going to dwindle because she might win immunity next time. That's my theory, is that we are going to see a Savannah go home.

I mean, that is very interesting because, yeah, she could take it. She wouldn't have to know who's being targeted. It wouldn't matter if she just steals the idol. As long as either she plays it for herself to ensure she's safe or she holds on to it to ensure she's safe till final four. Right. you know, whether they're going after Rizzo or Savannah doesn't matter to her at that thing. Right. Exactly. And that's why I think we're going to see that. Now, I'm still hoping for a Sophie win because she's my winner pick. But we know that that doesn't happen. And so I'm like a little frustrated. It's truly a miracle. She's lasted this long with that curse you put on her.

Listen, I'm like, I have to breathe because this is such, this is an amazing moment that this is happening. So I'm really hoping that Sophie, without a knee pulls it out. But I do think that I think that we are in a world in which she is, we've heard enough of her mentioning this, like need to do this and if I could steal it. So she's

very aware. And the fact that she hasn't told anyone gives me comfort because she even had an opportunity with Savannah. When Savannah was like, I want to share something with you, I'm not going to tell anyone else. And Sophie let her let her tell everything she needed to tell and didn't go,

now let me do the same she was smart enough to know nope no one ever needs to know about this so i think this gives me a lot of ability to believe in her understanding this game and she doesn't ever say i can't sit next to rizzo but she has said i cannot sit next to savannah right right okay well this will be i mean it'll be interesting well it has the potential to be interesting no matter what absolutely you know whether it turns out to be interesting is another matter but i i think I think things are going to happen. Yes. You know, that definitely, oh, what could it be?

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