RHAP: We Know Survivor - Why ___ Lost: Survivor 49 Ep 8 w/ Liz Wilcox

Episode Date: November 15, 2025

Why ___ Lost: Survivor 49 Ep 8 w/ Liz Wilcox MC said in her final words, “I know people saw me as a physical threat and that made them want to vote me out.” But was that the actual reason? Especially when she was up against fellow challenge beast Sophie with a lot of things […]

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Oh baby this is why Blank Lost Welcome back to the 10th anniversary season of Why Blank Lost. I'm David Bloomberg, and normally I'd follow by introducing my co-host, Jessica Lewis. But we were the victim of a surprise, split podcast twist. She's often some other podcast camp, but that twist has also brought another player here, as I'm very happy to have returning special guest, Liz Wilcox, back with me. Redemption Island for podcast guests. What's up, friends?

So excited. This is my favorite podcast for Survivor. Always, always a pleasure to be here. And no, I'm not Jessica, but hopefully I can bring as much insight or at least if not insight, I'll just bring the jokes and you'll enjoy the episode.

Anyway. Yes, yes. Welcome back, like I said. And obviously, you know, Jessica had something urgent come up. She could not make it, unfortunately. But stuff happened. Ooh, tomato, tomato. Yeah.

So how have you been doing since we last chatted? Have you made more millions and billions? Yeah. Thinking about buying my super yacht. I'm doing so great, honestly. So I just realized it's been about three years since I applied for Survivor. so since my survivor journey started. And I feel like I'm finally emotionally and physically healed from the experience.

So I'm actually super excited this time. I can say that with a genuine tone to me. I feel so good. I'm glad to just be back as a fan and just watch and not feel, I mean, truth be told, not feel like super triggered by the episode. of course there's still some of that but it's never lingering so I'm excited for this season

I'm excited to be here too well good good well as listeners know because I kept talking about it I had a streak of five correct predictions in a row but oh my goodness yes it has sadly ended I blame Savannah for winning that challenge for her group

but while she may have ruined my prediction she is not the sole reason for MC, in particular, being the one who lost. Though she did contribute, to figure out how much we'll follow our usual path to determine what went wrong by comparing MC's game to a set of guiding rules for winning that I originally wrote way back after season one and have been updating ever since. We'll collect all the non-spoiler information available to us from what we saw on TV interviews, social media and secret scenes, and of course, the newest published version.

of the rules can be found at rob has website.com slash yxlost feed and then clicking on the link bubble for the survivor rules but before we address how mc did in terms of the rules we always have some other things to discuss now a moment ago i blamed savannah for breaking my street but it's really jeff's fault for again separating the tribe into two after the merge because you you got to have a small tribe heaven forbid jeff has to talk to more than five people at a time you know is that it is that maybe he's just getting he's like 62 or something maybe he's just he can't handle the intensity his brain it doesn't work as fast anymore yeah you know and i mean the sea snake saved us from the double tribal council

but i i i was very surprised i forgot about that i was very surprised when i listened to know it And Rob was so excited about this episode and talked about how great it was. I'm sorry, I do not agree at all. Now, don't get me wrong. I can see how they were entertaining portions of it. But we so often talk about how we want production to sit back and let them play the game. And that is not what happened here. Yeah, there was a lot going on.

Yeah, we celebrated having a normal merge last week. And, you know, Jeff just had to split him back up again. Yeah, I thought that was weird. I was like, but why? Because I liked, you know, it's been kind of cool seeing all the tribe swaps and the cross-pollination, even though I can't keep up, right? You know, but it's been awesome to see, and that's been kind of cool. But when it comes to the merge, I think David's right. Like, just let the players play, see where the chips may lie.

I always say Survivors about luck, but like, golly. well survivors about following the rules we're going to discuss okay well you know I'm not Jessica here okay I'm Liz now now speaking of the tiny tribe and we'll discuss this more later but it's pretty much a requirement that every time Jeff says something is a live tribal I have to point out no it's not and this was one of those cases the plan coming in was MC. The plan that happened was MC. We'll talk about why in both of those cases once we get to the rules. But the point is, it never changed, meaning it was never a live tribal. Just because people stand up and talk does not make it a live tribal. Just like most of the times when he makes that

claim, it's not a live tribal. And it's one thing for him to say it in the moment when he doesn't know the outcome. Like, ooh, this could be a live tribal. They repeated it in his on fire podcast when he knew the outcome. Oh, okay. See, I was, you know, to me, live tribal, I guess would have to be what you call like a suitcase word or phrase, right? Like, everybody's got their own suitcase and they're packing whatever they want in there, right? So the way Jeff is packing his suitcase for live tribal is not the way David is packing his, right? That is certainly true because he says it to try and make things more exciting, you know?

Oh, he wants it to be spicy. Right. he's promoting the TV show oh look we have no idea what might happen here it's a live tribal yes we do Jeff yeah yes we do the same thing that was going to happen beforehand uh listen it listen the trick worked on me I was like who what's what's gonna happen and y'all I've been there and I'm still like ooh so fun well you said you're watching it as a fan now so right right so I'm I'm I would say I'm back in the game but I'm out of the game. So I'm like,

oh, does MC have any shot at all here? Let's find out. She had a shot in the dark, but she did not play it, which we'll talk about later. Yeah. Rest in peace,

MC. Now, the other topic I want to talk about is a bit of a touchy one regarding Savannah. Because we've had one impression of her for most of the season. And then suddenly,

when she found herself on the bottom, boom, it changed. We saw a different side of her. Nobody cares. Sorry. I'm sorry. I thought I was on mute. No, I didn't.

Well, sorry. David is the host of this show and I will let him finish his life. No, you're fine because that, I mean, some people cared. I, as much as I, like, wanted to feel for her. And I know some people did. I just had a hard time with it because, like first she said about sage it's really hurtful that she's painting me out to be this person

who is so conniving and has all this power and is the strategic mastermind but from what we saw for most of the game she was conniving and had all the power and was very strategic so I really don't understand what the complaint was for that yeah I feel like for whatever reason you know we're we're seeing that side of her like becoming this underdog or whatever, but we've already seen her kind of as this big shark. Right. So it's hard as an audience member to be like, oh, no, you know, I want to root for the underdog. I love rooting for the underdog, but I mean, she's not the underdog.

Right. Like, she's kind of, it's kind of like, yeah, you get what you deserve. You thought you know what. And I say all that with love. I actually really like Savannah in and out of the game. She's one of the only people I've actually talked to from this season because I was like, oh, I like her. I like that's over after you. I know, Savannah, forgive me.

It's a show, babe. If anybody gets it with a bad edit, it's moire, okay? But in the context of this episode, all of a sudden, it was like, you know, she's telling the sob story. And I mean, granted, I have a nephew in the news industry and he says very similar things. So I can feel empathy in that way. But in the context of the show, I was like, you know, fast forward 10, fast forward 10. Like, I don't care. Yeah, I mean, that's the thing.

She started crying. She told Stephen and us a story about that job she previously had where her coworkers treated her crappy. And it led to stress and physical problems. And yeah, it sounds terrible. And she seemed to feel like she was having flashback saying things like, I'm feeling left out like nobody wants to have anything to do with me. But again, as much as I wanted to feel for her, I found my mind going back to how she treated Joanne.

You know, she wasn't rude to his face, but she certainly was behind his back to other people. And we heard about similar behavior from others. Like Sage telling Sophie how Savannah was making digs on her and telling us she was a mean girl. MC told Rob in their interview that there were times when Savannah gave off mean girl vibes. And Stephen said she was rubbing some people the wrong way.

This makes it difficult for me to feel a lot of sympathy for her. And I'm not a monster. I'm usually a very empathetic person. Believe it or not, even though I do a whole podcast, my brand is telling people why they're lost. Put it in the Ripley's Museum. I know. David has empathy.

But in this case, I have empathy a lot more for Joanne and Sage than I do for her. You know what? Maybe, maybe that is it because, yeah, the whole thing with Joanne and the bag and Savannah, girl, I get it. That is so annoying. But I feel like we've only seen this from her, this inability to let things go. Yeah. Like she's harboring resentment for it. and she's just waiting, you know,

she's like a little snake coiled up and she's just waiting to strike. And now that, you know, she didn't see, you know, the bigger snake behind her or whatever and she's wounded. We're supposed to feel sorry. I don't. Yeah.

And then it didn't help that. I'm so rude. She snapped back to her usual self as soon as she won the challenge and got to go be the big decision maker and tribal council giving like royal waves from the boat. as she literally though literally though she was like he he yeah and i get it i mean i'd probably be the same damn way you know uh but as a viewer it's like i for some reason for all these reasons

david and i have said like i want to root against her yeah it doesn't it doesn't show me she learned anything like if afterwards she got this new position and who knows maybe going forward she'll be like, oh, you know, I should really be nicer to Sage and Jawan and the, I don't foresee that happening. I don't either. But I doubt it. I don't either. And I hope the Bottoms Up Alliance gets their way. Yes.

Yes. I'm rooting for them as well. I'm rooting so hard. Suddenly I'm like, yes, I'm in it. I'm in this season. I was a little iffy. But when Bottoms Up came together, I was like. yes let's go

all right well other than that do you have anything or anyone else you want to discuss from this episode before we move into the rules for MC Jim Juan what are you doing my man I love you which time which time exactly

I mean I want to root for him so bad he's my winner pick I love him but it just seems like he's so he's doing his best you know it's like what we say in the South is like bless his heart you know it's like golly

even you know we're getting ahead of ourselves but even what MC and said in the you know post press or whatever we're calling it like come on Joanne like that was your chance

to do something you have this bottoms up alliance like you have you have moves to make I don't know I just I love him, love him, wondering what is going on. Well, I'll have some, yeah,

I'll have some more thoughts about Joanne as we get into the rules and another, because MC said some things in her interviews, not what you were referring to, but some other things that led me to believe everyone there thinks Jouan has very loose lips. Yeah, man, and that's what I'm saying. Joanne like let the people come to you you know and you and people are coming to you so you're ruining it by yeah yeah all right well there were of course if dig in yes a few things

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And there were a lot of things happening leading up to the split tribal council. We'll discuss them all to get to our answers because at our JP, we know Survivor and we know why MC lost. Now, the first and most important rule is, of course, to scheme and plot. And while we didn't see much of MC early on or really anyone in the Heena tribe, we did at least get the feeling she was making allies, which she confirmed in interviews. There was the four-person alliance she wasn't thrilled with involving Matt, Christina, and Stephen. There was her actual true core group of Stephen and Jason. Plus, she had a good relationship with Sophie. So much for that.

And I think she mentioned one or two others in there as well. The key to all of this is that every time we saw someone asking if she wanted to be in alliance, she followed my Ghostbusters provision and said, yes. And, yeah, I mean, she even did it last week after Savannah practically tackled her trying to get the key ring and then turned around to claim, oh, I want to work with you. And instead of going like, really, really, MC did the right thing and said, oh, yeah, I do too. So she had a pretty good base coming into the merge. And it really only got better once she was there. Yeah, I agree.

I think we saw just enough of her in the pre-merge and such to know that she was probably pretty well-connected whether or not people believed it or she believed it, you know, I want to work with you. And even people saying that means that you have some sort of influence because if people just see you as a goat,

they're not even going to bother to say that. So clearly, you know, she was well enough liked going into the merge. that, wow, it went down south fast, didn't it? Yes, yes. Now, after the first merged tribal council, MC, yeah, she was still feeling pretty solid with good reason. But as you said, it went south with the split tribe.

And she ended up with Rizzo and his idol in her losing group. And even then, it seemed like she was fine. She told Dalton Ross, before Savannah showed up on the boat, everyone was like Rizzo, Rizzo, we're getting out Rizzo. And then for some reason, she showed up and everyone got so spooked. I think you heard me say it in the episode. I'm like, why can't we say with the same plan? But I think people were spooked by Savannah's presence. Them together just made it seem more of, I don't know, like a duo. And people were not sure what type of advantage that Savannah had. So of course, that meant things had to shift. Now, even then, MC had a plan. She explained it to Mike Bloom. I knew there's going to be

two votes on me, at least with Rizzo and Savannah. I thought that we could also put two votes on Sophie and then two votes on Rizzo. And then if Rizzo didn't play his idol, there would be a re-vote because it was a tie. And then we could all vote for Rizzo. And yeah, that's a good plan. It absolutely would have worked if only people would have listened to her. Listen, reading this, I was like, dang, MC is really smart. But here, and y'all, here I go.

What is wrong with the new era? Y'all play the game like that. That's fun. Don't be afraid to split votes. I don't, I don't understand it. I mean, that to me, I would be down for something like that. Yes, it's risky.

But Uncle Jay just told y'all there are spots up for 50. Are we taking this serious or not? Like, do we want $2 million? I do. So I'm fitting to play this game and the next. Okay. So I would have been so down with that. I mean, it is incredibly risky, yes.

But that is to Jeff, you know, that's how you do it on Survivor. And so I, when I read that article, I was like, oh, my gosh, this is actually really smart. And it would, you know, I just like, come on, Jamal, come on, Sage. Like, I feel like those are two people you, Joanne. Oh my gosh, I'm the worst. well you had me for a minute because Jamal is on the Traders Canada so for a minute I was like oh yeah that must have been okay so

I feel like those two players in particular are are or can be up for anything right so what's the dealio and yeah there's advantages you know we don't know what Savannah has but here's here's the thing about advantages and such and shout out to final four in 46 because we understood this very well. All you have to do is make someone feel incredibly comfortable and they're not going to play

S-H-I-T. Okay, you know, like it doesn't matter what they have, you know, they could have the holy grail. They're not going to pull it out because they feel comfortable. And it's honestly so easy to make someone feel comfortable. All you have to do is flatter them. And Savannah and Rizzo, they think they've been very much. running the game. Savannah's a little wounded. So she's going to be so easy to manipulate because she's so

wounded. You can come up. Oh my gosh, I can't believe we did that. That was such a mistake. Suddenly she thinks she's back in charge. You know what I'm saying? And so to me, MC, I would have run the game with you because that sounds like something fun. That sounds like something spicy. It's, you know, I think it's perfect for rule one. I don't think it's too much scheming. Yeah, definitely.

I think it's just enough. And then you can turn the game on its head. And yeah, I'm disappointed in all of you. I don't know what you're talking. Except MC. I don't know what you're talking about with your season. Nobody went home with an idol in your season, right? It honestly was just, it was just too easy.

I don't understand how people are like, oh, they have an advantage. Let's be scared of it. It's like just flatter people. We're all on Survivor because we all think we are amazing. Okay. It's really not that hard to dissect us. It's really not. Even people who say, oh, I'm insecure.

I'm this. I'm that. We still have some level of delusion about ourselves. That's why we got cast on the show. Okay. Look within to see the answers that are out. Okay. That's all I'm saying.

That's all I'm saying. I'm just the only one that will, admit that I think I'm awesome. Everyone else is like, no, no, I'm like, whatever. Why did you apply if you don't think you're awesome? That's right. You do think you're awesome. You just won't admit it on national TV the way I will. Yeah. Anyway, keep going. I mean, you're talking to a guy who before we switched my background, you know, I used to have a sign up. It's a David, you're right. So, you know, Amelia. Yeah, so he's with me. All right. Moving on. Are we on the real tool yet? Or not quite. Yeah, because, you know, it became clear for reasons we'll get to later that that MC's plan was not going to work.

So then, as we mentioned, MC tried to turn the tribal council live. You know, like I said, it never was. But she was hoping. She said in interviews that she wanted to convince Joanne to go back to the 222 plan. But if not, at least get him to vote against Sophie and have him ask Sage to do. so too. And then they get three. And, you know, you're in a good position. Yeah. As we so often see in these situations, the vote was just too solidified at that point, which is why true live tribal councils are so rare. Because the votes are solidified before you

get there almost every time. Something has to happen, really happen to make people change their minds and you know just her it was it was a good shot but her saying that juan was not going to shift things yeah i think it was a good shot i think david you're right uh that most people's minds are made up and it's so risky to change it right before the vote right um but i will say it it was a good shot And I liked what she said in this interview of, well, my shot in the dark was a 16% chance. I thought maybe blowing up tribal was a 17 or 18%.

So this is why I like MC as a player because she's, she's calculating the risk. I mean, maybe she miscalculated, but she's at least trying. Yes. Like she's doing the most. And this is what I love about players that are not super fans.

Right? People like Q, people like MC, even people like me were not afraid to try something different. Like the 2-2-2 split boat, the blowing up tribal, you know, pretending you're a millionaire for some reason. You know, things like that. That's what the game needs, though, to keep it spicy, to keep it alive. I think if you watch Survivor for too long or, you know, too much when you get there, that's the reason why you're not doing the 2-2-2. Because it's like, oh, well, statistically, that doesn't work.

Well, that's because nobody's doing it. So try it out. Yeah, I mean, there aren't too many people who worry about the statistics and things. You know, you'd have to get to that level. But I think a lot of players these days have binge watched, like, all the seasons at once. And it's just hard to really get your thought processes straight when you're watching that much all of life. Yeah, I would agree with that.

Yeah, I would agree with that. I definitely binged it before I went. I had only seen less than half of the seasons when I applied and they actually made me watch a few of the seasons. I had never seen any past season 20 other than like 42 and 43. And they were like, we actually want you to watch XYZ and, you know, binging it. Yeah, I was like, oh, I have to stop watching because I can't think straight about what I want to do. I'm starting to overthink here. So, yeah, I think a lot of people go in with this elevated way too many ideas that they end up doing almost nothing.

Yeah. Which does take us, well, the too many part takes us nicely into Rule 2, which says not to scheme and plot too much and to keep your scheming secret. Now, this week, we're going to combine Rule 4 in here for reasons that will make sense shortly. And Rule 4, of course, tells players not to let their emotions control them. Now, Sophie told MC her plan was to throw a vote Joanne's way in case Rizzo played his idol. And then we saw MC let Joanne know about, you know about that with the reason given on the show that she wanted to earn back his trust. From there, Joanne ran around, told everyone and things got bad, as Sophie said, MC has blown up this whole freaking game. But I can't really talk about her doing it without the reason.

she did it, which we didn't know in the game, but she explained in her interviews. It was not just to earn back trust, but rather, as she told Mike Bloom, she told Joanne, she was, quote, having an out-of-game conversation with you right now. This could break my game. And she didn't want to see the first two members of the jury being black players like she's seen before, especially in a split tribe. And she thought Joanne would be on the same page with her there, which was clearly a mystery. She told Rob, she knows some people will say, it's a game for a million dollars, don't bring race into it.

But she added, she's black. She can't not do that. And if you're not black or a person of color, you might not understand it. And, you know, that's the thing from our perspective, which is not any of those. Different people on Survivor look at things in different ways. Not to speak for Joanne, but his actions clearly indicated that he didn't look at it the same way as she did. It's an internal tug of war we've seen before, and each player has to judge what's important to them. Right.

And maybe he did see things the same way, but he didn't want to rock the boat, right? It's not worth a million dollars. And I think that's something that comes up. And of course, you know, I'm white. What do I know? but it's like what is worth a million dollars here and for whatever reason he said let the chips fall where they may

I can't do anything or I'm not going to do anything about it yeah and you know MC added to Mike Bloom I look back and I could have maybe avoided having that conversations and maybe I would still be in the game but I'm still glad that I did because it's something that I wanted to stand up for and you know different people like I said different people have different viewpoints on that as I've said many times before the viewpoint on this podcast I evaluate each player from a purely

game standpoint and from that perspective it was the wrong decision to make especially given his reaction of running around and talking to everyone else yeah I couldn't believe yeah when I heard the reasoning and that I'm like not him going around blabbing it after something like that Wow. That's wild. That's crazy work. It goes back to something I've said on the last few podcasts in a different way, where she told him this is an out-of-the-game conversation. In Survivor, nothing is outside of Survivor.

That's so true. I mean, we've had our own intrapersonal conflicts in season 46 about something very similar. And it's like some, there are some people that just can't understand. that some people will do anything for a million dollars. Yeah. And to me, I'm like, well, isn't that the name? That's literally the name of the game. Yeah.

But, you know, as a white person, you know, I have no business commenting any more than that. Yeah. Yeah. Now, one thing about Joanne that we didn't know, and this is something you referenced earlier, and it's interesting to me here, is that in the previous tribal council, the target kept switching because someone told Joanne too soon and others worried he'd pass it along. So this is where the loose lips thing that I was talking about, whether true or not, he at least has this reputation or loose lips, even amongst his allies or those who were his

allies in the merge vote. Yeah, the loose lips or even just inability to sit still. right inability to not overthink whatever's going on you know whatever it is like either he's running his mouth

or he's just overthinking and he's you know confiding in the wrong people or confiding in anyone that will hear him out it's not a look it's not a good look babe it's not a good look

I would not be surprised if he goes soonish because just because he's hard to work with. See, I think, I don't know. I feel like he's not going to go soon as I think bottoms up is going to do well. Maybe I'm kidding myself because he is my pregame winner pick. But I mean, I want him to stick around.

I want him to get his head in the game. He says his head is in the game. Yeah. But I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. Anyway. Now, getting back to MC, clearly once word spread about her telling Joanne,

things flipped against her and we'll of course get to some of the reasons for that happening as we make our way through the rest of the rules but I have to say that as I was watching I was astonished at some of the weak rationalizations and excuses we saw from people about why they'd vote out MC like saying well she played her idol last tribal council and that shows that she doesn't trust us and I felt like I was watching the traders with the way that they were talking themselves into it you know Spider-Man versus Spider-Man? Yeah, I mean, yeah, I agree.

It's they're all, you know, we'll talk about her idle decision in Rule 7, but they interpreted it as a sign of untrustworthiness, which I think added on nicely to her telling Joanne about the plan of one of her original tighter Hina allies. And so they were able to pile things on, even though there really wasn't anything there. And that's why I say it's like the traitors because so often people just gang up on someone they find reasons whether they make sense or not

and I think that's what happened was there was a lot of tension and then you know especially with Savannah showing up and then something just snapped and they all went zip and looked at MC. Yeah I think that's

they're just a victim of this shorter game I think because there's so you know there's so little time to form a real true bond with someone before the game i mean at this point they're voting somebody out like every day okay friends and it's like everybody's playing like santa anybody but me anybody but me you know and it's like oh well so-and-so who i perceive has some power says mc so i'm just going to get in line and that's kind of what it seemed and i mean I've done it and I've, you know, like, I know it because I did it, baby.

So, but it is just, it's like, well, I don't really know. I thought I knew them. And so Juan's saying like, oh, well, she played her idol, even though I told her or not to, I don't trust her. Like, that's just easy because they don't, I mean, it is an excuse, but it's also like, yeah, they don't really know each other that well. So it's easy to say that versus if you had had several. you know, off days getting to know each other.

So it is a lot of that boom, boom, boom, boom, and we can just pile up on one person. So I think that's, she's just kind of a victim of that circumstance in this case. Yeah. All right. Well, we can go to the third rule,

which tells players to be flexible. How do you think MC did here? Um, I don't know. So, so. I mean, she,

she wanted Rism. She said, you know, why can't we stick to the plan? But then when she saw it, you know, it wasn't working, you know, she tried to something else. I mean, she tried the wrong thing, clearly. But she did try something else. So I think she did okay. What do you think? Yeah.

I mean, you know, we talked in the first rule about a number of things that, you know, we could repeat here. But what's the point? We talked about them already. You know, her various alliances, her attempting different options when things went astray. So I would put her higher than so-so. I think she did pretty good given what she had. All right. I can be convinced.

I've been wrong before. All right. Well, the fifth rule reminds players they need to pretend to be nice and play the social game. And according to Rizzo, he kept talking about MC having a web of relationships that was pretty wide, which I have to admit, initially made me scratch my head, in part because I was trying to figure out how he would even. even know that. You know, I completely forgot MC was on the second swap tribe

with him, Savannah, and Sof. There's a lot going on. Yeah. Yeah. Now, of course,

we didn't see a lot of those relationships that web because she was on tribes that always won. But she said in interviews that her goal was to be everyone's best friend

or at least, you know, feel good with her. She told Mike Bloom, I was tight with Sophie. I was tight with Stephen. I was tight with Christina. even Sophie B.

Me and Nate were close after the journey. I did have those webs. Now, unfortunately, if we look at that list of people, the only one of them who was with her for this tribal council was Sophie with an E. And they ended up in a her or me situation. So that doesn't help. Yeah, that sucks. I think she played the social game well.

But I think it's hard when you try to be everyone's best friends. like that again going back to 46 that was pretty much Kenzie's whole strategy I just want to be your bestie and I think you have to have like for her at all yeah and I'm sure Jam Jam had the same but I think you have to have like a very specific personality

and be a hairdresser and be a hairdresser literally literally that if you are a salon owner apply now Jeff is going to salivate okay everyone else is going to vote you out Yeah, there's just a certain, right. Last week we talked about, about Nate hiding his job when he shouldn't have.

But if you're a salon owner, that is the job you hide. I know. Move over lawyers. Yeah. Move over newscasters. And Savannah hiding her anyway. Yes. So silly.

Yeah. I think you have to have this real personality. Like there's just something. You have to have. a certain it factor. Like even me, I feel like I was friends with everybody. You know,

like I had a major meltdown and nobody voted me out. Clearly, people loved me. But you were the grandma. I was, yeah, I wasn't Kenzie. You know what I mean?

Like she's a true mermaid dragon or whatever. Shout out Bono. Today is Bono's birthday. Happy birthday, yeah. If anybody wants to send him some love, that would be amazing.

but yeah there's there's just a certain it factor and obviously I don't know MC but maybe she didn't have that enough to pull or clearly she didn't to pull people away from her yeah yeah all right well the sixth rule warns against being too much of a threat and continuing with the thread I just mentioned regarding her social connections and you were talking about MC continued to Mike Bloom I think that vote came down to that I was more I was more of I was a physical threat but also a social threat which Sophie S did not really have she didn't have as many of those types of connections

and indeed we heard Rizzo saying essentially that her her own social game MC's own social game got turned against her like you know it's kind of like rule one scheme and plot rule two don't scheme and plot too much. I guess, you know, in this case, I mean, being a threat, you know, encompasses it, but, you know, don't have too good of a social game, but it's really not that because if you have too good of a social game, you win and your name is Jam Jammer-Kenzie.

But it's, you know, her social game, I guess, was more obvious and that made her a threat. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, especially compared to Sophie who she was up against, right? Even the edit has shown us very clearly, you know, it was like, who's, Sophie, you know, and then all of a sudden, you know, she's winning challenges, so we're seeing more of her, right? Even then, not much more. I mean, I know, I know, poor, girl, I get it, call me. So I think, yeah, there was just in this split tribe, it was hard for her to sort of, you know, blend in. And I think, yeah, that one, two punch of, oh, she does, she has this wide net.

and she's clearly in great physical condition, you know, Rizzo's got Savannah now all of a sudden. So it's like, well, who do we start to look at? So, you know, that is true. You know, that certainly showed that, you know, in the tribe challenges that that MC was a challenge beast. Everybody talked about that. If you're going to a challenge with MC,

you are going to win. and but Sophie was a challenge beast as well. So in that regard, I'd say they were almost even. Yeah, I agree. And, you know,

I mentioned MC's final words earlier about being seen as a physical threat. And even though Joanne voted for MC the chief, MC the beast, I think we could say that wasn't as big an issue when you're going up against the person who is also thought of as a challenge threat. And then won a challenge and got second place in the next challenge.

Yeah, I was so impressed by Sophie. So in my mind, when MC, yeah, I said, oh, they saw me as a physical threat. Yeah, that might be on my mind, but Sophie would be on my mind even more. Yeah, first place and second place. And it's like seemingly out of nowhere, you know, MC looks physical. But when the individual challenges came, you know, she was underperforming as far as looks go, right? So in my mind, I'll be like, wait a second. Let me look at this lady.

I would very easily be distracted by Sophie and her wins or close wins. Yeah. Yeah. And another thing with Sophie, and this is an argument that MC made in tribal council. And I think it was a good argument. It's just that it was in tribal council by that point. But was that if you vote out MC, Sophie will go back tomorrow to her people and she'll go on winning immunity challenges and they'll wish they had voted Sophie out instead. And so what MC was basically trying to convey was, I'm not locked in with a single group like Sophie is because she had these connections elsewhere.

But and like I said, I do think that's a good argument. It was just too little too late as we talked about. Yeah, I totally agree. When she said that at Tribal, I was like, dang, that was a good argument. I'm like, did she say that back at camp? Because I would have been spew, spew, spewing that. Like, hello, this is one night, one night only, you know. Uncle Jay, he's putting us back together tomorrow, you know.

And so I would have been screaming that at the rooftop. So maybe she did. Maybe, you know, we didn't see it. So going back to the rule one, like maybe you didn't scheme and plot enough there, my dear, in those final hours. Yeah, yeah. Well, we could go to the seventh rule,

which covers idols and advantages and game mechanics. And I want to start with her playing the idol last week because I've seen a number of people criticizing her for doing that. But to my mind, hindsight is 2020. This is Survivor. Just because someone tells you they're flipping and voting with your group doesn't mean they actually are doing that it's like it's like you were talking about flatter them make them feel like they're perfectly safe you know joan

was like saying well i told em see the plan and that all was good as if as if that's all it took but joan also told rizzo and savannah and sof the plan that they thought was happening so that's yeah clearly not a full proof indicator and mc essentially said the same thing in her her interviews noting that Joanne and Sage had both sides convinced they were with them. They were obviously lying to one group. And with that, and I had forgotten this too, this was literally MC's first tribal council. She didn't know where the votes were going. And she said at the start of the episode, of this episode, I needed just one tribal council

to see who's on my side and then I could know who I trust in the future. And I think she was absolutely right. I love that. Gosh, I wish she would have been able to drive that point home a little bit more with potential allies because that's smart of her. She's got, I mean,

we all saw season 46, right? Like I would be. And that they, you know, they, they filmed their season only maybe like a year after seeing ours. You know,

really not even, you know? And so I would definitely be playing my idol. You know, that's pretty darn fresh. in my mind, and I would be saying that to people, like, hey, you know, we all saw Tiff and the gang, like, I ain't going to be me. Ain't going to be me. So it's interesting that they didn't give her any grace in that. So I wonder what it is about her as far as like, yeah,

she casts a wide net, but there's got to be something about her social game that was just slightly off for people to, you know, gang up on her so easily. I don't know. I think it was the anyone but me and I mean they just they were so offended I think it was like we created this perfect plan and then you offended us by not trusting us and I've heard talk of that before like yeah you know why I didn't want to play my shot in the dark because then if I was wrong then you know but that shot in the dark's a little bit different and also this is literally the first time like she was saying and I've even seen some people saying well she should have known the split tribal council was coming so it made sense to save it in case she needed it in

exactly this situation how is she supposed to know that right how many times have we seen it someone hold an idol for when they would really need it only to be voted out before they could get to that hypothetical point the answer is a lot the answer is most times yeah i think she did the right thing and maybe you know when in doubt for me i always played stupid i'm like oh no i shouldn't have done that. Please teach me how to play Survivor. Maybe she should have done that. Right.

You know, and she would have been here. But not everybody can play stupid the way I play stupid. Reddit is about to explode. Yeah, but I mean, honestly, that is sometimes part of the social game is knowing when to play stupid. Like, yeah, and knowing when to double down on like, yep, I took this action and when to say like, oh, you're right. I shouldn't have done that and just be quite, don't even give your reasons. Oh my gosh, David,

you're so right. I can't believe I played my idol. Please keep telling me what to do because clearly I'm an effing moron. I'm going to clip that. I did that all the time. And you and David, David believe me.

You know what I mean? Like that's, sometimes that's what you have to do and that's part of scheming and plotting versus saying, oh, giving, nobody wants to be.

hear your reasons why they're already mad at you yeah they want to know that you know that you're an idiot and so just tell them hey you're right that was really stupid oh my gosh will you please like work with me because clearly i don't know what i'm doing see this is you got to be humble this is this is why i couldn't uh i mean there's many more for medical reasons that i couldn't be out there and play but yeah it would be so this would be like the hardest thing would be for me to be like oh yeah you're so right i'm just an idiot you know and you know i thought it was so easy because it was so funny because then i could go to the cameras and be like oh my gosh it's like sage sage is playing this so well yes she knows that maybe she has this little weirdness about her that

people misread and she's playing it so freaking good emcee should have taken a just a little bit. You don't have to be sage. Just a little bit of that, oh, yeah, you're right. Shoot, I shouldn't have done that. Yeah, yeah. You know.

I did want to also just to add to the point of people saying, people being viewers, not in the game, saying, oh, you should have known this was coming. The other thing to remember is with Jake's Medevac, there was not a certainty there would be a split tribal council this season. We saw that already caused merger. to turn back into a merge. So there was no

there was no reason to necessarily automatically assume that. And let alone that she would be on the losing side with Rizzo and his idol and Savannah would win with a brand new advantage of getting to come vote.

There's just no way she could have predicted this situation. Right. Shout out Uncle Jay. Yes. I know. people are not liking it. I've seen it all over Reddit. I love it. I love Uncle Jay, Uncle Jeff. I think it's so fun. It's fresh. See, I don't I don't like Uncle Jeff

for a purely personal reason. Okay. I'm going to get clearly this is an outside the game outside survivor thing. Outside the game conversation. So I had an Uncle Jeff. He was when I was little, my favorite uncle. And he died at the age of 29, which was obviously many, many years ago, but it impacted me as a child when you're your favorite uncle, you know, so

it just, it throws me. I mean, I'm not, I'm not, you know, breaking down or anything, but every time I hear it, I still associate that. Yeah, even decades later, you know. Sweet baby David. Yes.

Aww. So, I get it. I get it now. uncle jay that doesn't do it for me we never called him that you know all right i'll continue to say uncle jay then yeah all right moving on it's still annoying when the players do it but you know i know why you're doing it so i'm just trying to be i'm just trying to be part of the tribe you know trying to assimilate myself now uh continuing in this rule and moving to this week's tribal counsel. Yes.

We talked earlier about her attempts to get plans worked out ahead of time. But when that didn't work, she made that one last attempt. And I want to mention this again here because she was really trying to use kind of the meta of the game, the game mechanics. Yeah. And the threat of her shot in the dark. She told Dalton Ross, I was just trying to cause enough confusion that they might get spooked, that I had something or was going to do a shot in the dark, or something

like that, that they would put some votes on Sophie, and then it would end up that their votes plus mine would get her home instead of me. And like Sage said at the time, she was playing hard. I respect that. But as we said earlier, we know that in almost all of these situations, tribal council simply does not suddenly turn live. And I think that's even more likely to be the case that it doesn't that in a small tribe like the split group where you don't have to worry about like different factions going off in other directions there's only so many of you there yeah that's so true that's so true i think i i 100% respect the play of it normally i hate live tribal i'm like uh you know like get on to the vote because

To David's point, I know y'all ain't changing your minds. Somebody's panic and just go home. Just grab your torch. You know, like, you're going to be okay, baby. You know, you can call me if you need to cry. But I did respect that because it was like, I wouldn't say it was obvious going into tribal, you know, but I like to just watch without analyzing.

But I do respect that she was like, no, I can't just take it lying. down. So I do respect that. But yeah, it was too little too late. I mean, if I was sorry, I might have done even more. I might have just started yelling at people randomly. I can't believe you just said that. And then everyone's like, what? See, this is that. Y'all need to just take. If you're going to do it, do it. You know, like you're you call over Sophie. You're whisperingering. And then all of a sudden you just start acting crazy. Like what? I can't believe you would say that. Oh my gosh. I said I'm not voting out. Riz. And then everybody. You know, that's how you change a tribal, to David's point. Something huge has to happen. Like, that's how you have to just be so willing to go, not the extra mile, like the extra marathon, okay? And then because you're acting so crazy, there's no way you're not, there's no way

you're lying, right? Because who the F would do that? Who would lie about being a millionaire? You know what I mean? Like, it's that level of. there's no way she's lying because this is so out of the box I can't even fathom it

so maybe she should have done that I don't know I would have I would have been like no he has an idol and then Sophie would have been like what you were talking to me about popcorn you know like and then you know everyone's looking at Sophie like anyway

that would have been fun to watch I want someone to do this now someone who is watching right now I want someone to do this in you know 51 52 i i want someone to do the liz plan here and just listen put me back in uncle jay put me back in uncle jay i'm ready to play like i said i'm healed so now i'm coming up with all these ideas i love it if you if you secretly are already cast call me i'll i'll walk you through

now i earlier you had mentioned the shot in the dark. Yeah. And I have a bit of a different take on it than you do. Okay. Dalton Ross asked her why she didn't play it. And, you know, as you mentioned, she said there's a 16% chance of the shot in the dark. Yeah.

And I felt like me causing enough confusion and chaos might have been 17 or 18% chance. So I was going to go with that instead. And sure, even a one or two percent better chance is still a better chance. Will you, oh, I'm sorry. It is still a better chance. Sorry. Y'all, somebody just walked into my house. That's okay.

I hope they're supposed to be there. They're supposed to be there. It's my husband. He was my husband. Now he's not. I talked about him on the show. But anyway, yeah, I, again, I respect the play. Well, what I, you know, what was the point of your story?

Well, what I was going to say is I have to get technical because I am an engineer. Oh, yes. So what is the actual percentage, sir? So the actual chance is 16.7. percent not 16 so it rounds to 17 which means it's mathematically equivalent to the first number she get and I've told this story before I have actually had conversations like that at work like I literally had someone calling me believe you yeah I had I literally had like a lawyer from a company calling me at home on my day off before a weekend yeah to say

their permit says they have to reach 95%. They're at 94.7%. And I said, does their permit say 95 or 95.0? And they said 95. I said then 94.7 is 95. Thank you. Have a good weekend. Goodbye.

I said good day. Yeah. And so, you know, here it's the same thing. So, and the other thing is you, you talked about her calculating this. Now, maybe she did. Maybe she calculated. I don't know how. I don't know what would go into that equation.

Listen, David, I don't mean she's calculating it in the sand just in her head of like, well, there's a bigger shot of rowing it up. You know, I mean, that's why it was a miscalculation because it wasn't accurate at all. I mean, it may have been a proper calculation. Who knows? But the thing is, we see these numbers pulled out of thin air. We've heard it from players before. Oh, I felt like I had a 30% chance.

Where? Why did you get that number? Now, her number is even more specific. It was quite specific. You're right. You're right. And so I suspect she just meant she felt there was a slightly better chance of her plan working. But as we talked about, when it comes to creating, attempting to create a live tribal council,

I would say the percentage is in the lower half of the single digits based on history, meaning that the shot in the dark actually would have been the better mathematical option. Oh, absolutely. If only they would have listened to this podcast about, you know, live tribals never actually being live. Yes. That is such a good point. That is such a good point.

I never thought about it. You know, Jeff calls it a live tribal. Yeah, we're live. but yeah you're right the vote hardly ever changes so once again David Bloomberg you're so right I'm going to clip all of these this is this is why he always has me back on the right it's right you know it's why um so when James was on we made a similar uh there was a similar thing where he said so he said David you are awesome or David is awesome and I I was like I posted on Blue Sky, I was like,

I don't require guests to say things like this when they come on, but it helps, you know? Amen. Amen. You know, I love it. I love it so much. All right, we can move to Appendix A, which discusses players keeping their end goals in mind

when voting, and we talk about voting out the week than the strong, then the week than the strong. Now, as I said last week, at this merge portion of the game, you typically want to get out someone who is strong on the opposing side. And it feels like this should have been easy in the way that you described, convince Rizzo he's safe,

he doesn't need to play his idol, and then blindside him. And indeed, he was convinced he didn't need to play it. Right. But yeah, this is hindsight again. Just like I said,

it was for saying M.C. shouldn't have played hers. And, you know, for those saying they should have gotten Rizzo or Savannah last week. Things are a lot clearer after they happen. but leading up to it they were on a path to try and then Sophie made the mistake of telling MC her plan to vote for Joanne just in case I don't know why Sophie told MC that I mean it didn't come back to bite her this time but she shouldn't have told she should have done it there's no reason to tell MC that right and you know and then of course MC told him so he wanted to change his vote and then Savannah showed up with a vote that, you know, threw another wrench in the works and, and that they could have still made it work, but it just, it required so much trust among all of them and not knowing

how Rizzo himself would vote and not knowing what advantage Savannah might have up her sleeve. You know, I think they just, they were all scared and scrambling to save themselves, like we talked about earlier. Yeah, it was an very interesting. episode very interesting vote of the scrambling it was like only you know this can be easy only one person could be under attack why are why do we all feel like we're under attack here yeah it was interesting for sure yeah and i mean i i think the main issue was that joan and sophy didn't want to gamble and now i didn't mention save sage there because we didn't hear from her and i think

she was willing to give it a shot, in part because I think she felt safe no matter what. Like no one was mentioning her name. But everything spun out of control and they knew Rizzo and Savannah plan to vote for M.C., which helped guide that decision. From their standpoint, we already know what they thought of her social game. And then Rizzo mentioned if everyone wants to target Sophie, why do their dirty work for them? It's, it really turned into a very big brother sort of thing to say. It's an argument often used on Big Brother.

Oh, we've got person A versus person B on the block. But everyone wants person A off. So why would we waste this vote? Let's go after person B. Yeah, I hate that. I also hate when like MC said in her interview, like Savannah showed up and suddenly there was a duo. Yes.

In my head, like it's only a duo if you think it's a duo, right? Like you can ignore them. And yeah, he's got an idol. But again, flattery will get you just about anywhere, right? Like, just be cool, my friends. Like, just if you're cool, nobody's going to know. Yeah. Ask me how I know.

How do you know? Like, it's just, to me, it's like, and maybe I was just on a season with egotomaniacs. It's just too easy to not, to get someone to not play the idol. It's, I don't. know. Maybe I'm just talking out of my ass now. But like, it's only a duo if you, yeah, sure, they have two advantages, right? We know Rizzo's got the idol. We know Savannah has something. But if they feel comfortable, then you can do whatever you want. And clearly they felt comfortable. So you could have been

running an, you know, like an undercurrent there. But I get it. I mean, I get it. You want to be safe. Yeah. I get it. I get it. I think. Sage would have been all in. That's probably why we didn't hear much from her because she probably was like, I'm down. Let's do it. Now, we talked about Joanne a bit earlier. And I do think he made a mistake in his decision.

You know, MC warned him and he repaid the favor by voting her out. It seems like he and Sage should have joined with MC to vote out Sophie. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Would have been fun. But we did see a lot of those two talking to their. fellow original Uli tribe mates about how they could see themselves working together again. So I think they just decided to keep that door open rather than completely slamming it in their faces.

Okay. I mean, boring. But, yeah. I get it, though. You don't want to scheme and plot too much. Yeah. You know,

you want to be flexible. But I think that all the original, anytime there's talk of original. to me that's what is that rule five letting your emotions control you like that's an emotional play right to me is like oh well you feel more strongly with them but it's like that's a fallacy that's not real or does it have to be real like you can play with whoever you want yeah all right well it is about time to wrap things up so so having so much fun emce yeah I know and you have another chance to have more fun because what are your final thoughts

Thoughts on MC? My final thoughts are MC was what Rizzo said. She had cast that wide net. She had a little bit of that physical threat to her as well. I believe she was a bit of a victim of circumstances, but also just misjudging character. I don't know what exactly what that rule would be

maybe letting, you know, rule two and five is what we put together, right? Or two and four, two and four. I'm sitting in front of it so you can't see it. Yeah, I got it off to the side, but I'm missing the numbers. You know, maybe just letting that kind of get to her, which I understand is, you know,

that's your own gameplay. But, yeah. Shout out MC. I think she played better than I gave her credit for after reading her interviews and things. And so I can see why they voted her out. You know, she's clearly smart. She's got connections. And I hope she, honestly, I would like to see her play again because she's clearly smarter than I gave her credit for.

So shout out MC. Yeah. emcees best efforts this was not a live tribal even though her plan made sense it was just too late to get people rethinking everything they'd planned especially since there could be long-term game implications that would take some thinking through from sage and juan but of course that was only her last-ditch effort mc had been working on her web of social relationships and allies throughout the game had this not been a split tribal council i very much doubt she would have had anything to worry about. But stuff like this happens on Survivor, whether we like it or not. And when she was

separated from most of her web, it suddenly became a weapon to be used against her instead of something she could use in her own favor. MC was, of course, seen as a challenge threat as well, but she was kind of on an even playing field in that regard against Sophie once it boiled down to the two of them. But comparing other pluses and minuses caused the scale to tip against her by a wide mark between her being seen as a social threat and other people wanting to take Sophie out later, meaning there was no urgency to do it now. Plus, there were the rationalizations that she wasn't trustworthy because of her idle play and then revealing Sophie's plan to Joanne.

The latter set off a chain reaction, which overlapped with another chain reaction of uncertainty caused when Savannah showed up. the plan to fool and blindside Rizzo fell away and a new one took its place. She tried to overcome it, but there were just too many different reasons swirling around for her to be able to counter them all in the short time she had. And that is why M.C. lost. Boo. Yes.

Although I do like Rizzo, so I'm glad to see another day. But that's another topic. Thanks for having me, David. I... Well, we've still got more things to discuss here. Oh, that's right. Yes, we have predictions. But before we get to those...

Okay, yes. Before we get to those, I want to mention that next week, we have another returning guest. The Glue Guy, Survivor 47 runner-up, Sam Phelan. And we want to remind everyone that the rules we just discussed, as I mentioned earlier, are available in poster form, in poster on a t-shirt form and on checklist on a t-shirt form

and again, you can go to rob has website.com slash yX lost feed to find all of those. Now, again, before we get to predictions, Liz, where can people find you on social media? Are you even on social media much now? Yeah, I'm not really on social media, but if you have an amazing podcast,

like this one or you're trying to start a YouTube channel or anything like that I'd love to help you actually make money from it so you can find me at Liz Wilcox.com. There's a hot pink button you can't miss it. You can download some stuff that'll teach you how to

actually make money from your podcast your content creation, etc. All right. And of course you could find all of my various accounts at let's see if if I get that. There we go. At Linktree slash David Bloomberg, or you could find me directly on Blue Sky is at David Bloomberg. And I am also on the video sites, TikTok, YouTube, and Instagram where I'm at David Bloomberg TV. I post these days two or three short reality TV videos. Most of them are, of course, about Survivor 49, plus some from the Traders Canada season three. A few still from the recently ended celebrity TV.

Traders UK, and I'm also co-hosting, oh, and also Squid Game the Challenge, forgot about that. And I'm co-hosting the Trader podcast for the Traders Canada, four episodes out so far, plus I was on the Trader for both a discussion of the Celebrity Traders UK finale, plus another special episode for Q&A about the season. And, you know, it was just announced that Celebrity Traders UK is coming to Peacock in about a week. So anyone who hasn't seen it yet, you'll be able to, presuming you of Peacock.

And when you get to those episodes in the show, you can, you know, listen or watch those episodes of the podcast too. So, you know, you could, and you could check out my TikTok playlist for that show as well to see, you know, don't spoil yourself, but once you started watching it. All right, with that. It is time for predictions. And this is going to be another tough one here because the preview tells us Rizzo, Savannah, and Sof feel like they're the most powerful trio in the game. And someone's coming for Alex.

So as usual, not exactly helpful. I'm trying to figure out how things will be impacted after MC being voted out. In theory, it shouldn't matter. You know, Stephen will obviously be upset since she was his number one, but he's also tight with others in the alliance, including who we mentioned, the bottom is up alliance with Sage and Jawan. But then we have those exact two people who indicated they were open to working with their original tribe mates. Now, maybe that's why Rizzo Savannah and Sof feels so powerful. Or it may be the trinkets they all have, or they may be diluting themselves. but especially if Sof finds out about Christina's idol

that would give them more power and that does seem likely since Alex made a comment this week about how he might tell others and I would imagine she would be the first person that he tells. So that's the direction I'm going to go. I think those three are going to use their trinkets to make a move. I think Sof will take Christina's idol.

Rizzo has his own idol. Savannah has her extra vote. They can make use of those to either bring Sage and Joanne back, like use them as leverage, much like Rizzo's been using his idol, or they can simply strike almost wherever they want. You know, Sophie makes the most sense since we already know people worry about her and challenges, and that could become worse if she does well in the next one but doesn't win. If not her, I would guess Christina because Sage and Joanne will not want to vote out Stephen. They will not want to come on to this group and vote out Stephen. So my official prediction is Yellow Sofe. Yeah, I was going to say very similar.

It's Christina or Sophie. There's just like I love that David calls it trinkets, right? So there's just a lot in play. And I think what we just talked about, you know, seeing, I mean, the impact of season 46, people are going to want to play those things, right? And the person that doesn't could go out. So I think people will kind of team up. And Rizzo, Savannah, you know, and who they're able to pull in, I feel like will be so tight that it'll be hard to break that mix up. that or maybe maybe we see bottoms up just doing something wild.

Yeah. Who knows? You know, I love that trio. I think they are ripe to do something silly and wild and, you know, blow something up. I don't know if right now they're going to do that or try to, you know, play it safe for a couple more votes until there's less people. I hope it's the latter. I hope, David's not right because that's kind of boring. Right.

But it also is kind of fun when we see people playing with things and combining advantages to, you know, we see where real alliances are. So I don't know, but I just got a bad feeling about Christina. However, the chips lie, I got a bad feeling about my girl. I like her. I don't want her to go. Yeah, I know. I'd rather yellow Sophie. just because we just haven't gotten a lot from her and it's whatever.

So maybe she loses the challenge and they just, that's just an easy vote. It's that herd mentality that we saw in this last episode. That's, we'll see where the chips may lie. Yeah, I should mention, I should mention just to give credit where credit is due. Dr. Jeremy Faust, our guest last week did predict MC for this week. So he was right. Not in the way we got there.

Yes, not in the way we got there, but nobody could have predicted the way we got. Nobody. As we wrap up, I want to encourage people to check out the R.JP patron program at Rob has a website.com slash patron. You can get access to all the special podcasts that are put out just for patrons, plus Facebook group, Discord, early access to live shows, discounts on live shows. And the most important thing, you support shows like ours and everything on the network. So become a patron at Rob.

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It was kind of fun. I hope Jessica doesn't mind. and I hope that everything's okay with her. I hope you viewers enjoyed the show, even though Sweet Baby Jessica wasn't here. You know, Applebee's mascot was. So hopefully I filled the shoes okay for today. And I pray I'll be back next season.

Yes, yes. We will do everything we can to make sure that happens. Yeah, just have me back whenever Q gets voted out. I don't know if he wins. Y'all, I am like so out of it. I'm like, don't tell me anything. I don't want to know. I have purposely unplugged myself.

But if Quintavius Burdett has a vote out, David, call me because I want to. I mean, that's the problem is we do this. We do this so far in advance. I mean, how many. I know. That's so true. Well, there might be an episode where Liz just pops in,

even if there's another guest. I just got something to say. All of a sudden, we'll hear knock, knock, knock. We have a knock at the door. Who could it be? Oh, Lord. No. That's so funny.

Anyway, thank you all so much. I love this podcast. I love its viewers. I really appreciate you. David. Well, thank you. Thank you again. You know, we will be back here next week.

Of course, I mentioned we'll have Sam on then. And until then, you can find me on social media. or see you in a week. Bye. Thank you.