RHAP: We Know Survivor - Yam Yam Arocho Recaps Survivor 47 Ep 13

Episode Date: December 12, 2024

Today, Rob is joined by Survivor 44 winner, Yam Yam, to discuss episode 13.

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And I am so thrilled to be here live tonight with an honest to goodness survivor winner so excited from survivor 44 jam jam is here jam jam how are you oh my god i'm so excited i'm so happy this is the first podcast i've done this year and i'm sorry for everybody i've let down for not like plugging into anybody else's but i'm ready yeah i'm ready to talk about survival 47 jam jam is here if you're watching the video okay that jam jam has such a fancy ipad that it just does like extreme close-ups back and forth it's like that there's a cameraman in his apartment or his house filming him and so lots of motion going on from uh jam jams follow following like uh his every movement it's a trippy camera i don't know i don't know how to i don't know who turned it on but i think i can i have many good ideas i can employ with it

so after i'm done with this podcast i think think I'm going to use the first part. Nobody's going to get bored. People are going to be following you all over. Jim, Jim, how are you? I'm doing good. I'm doing good. You know, I've been chilling out this season. I've been watching from afar, you know,

and I've been enjoying life. Lots of work at their salon, just focusing on life, focusing on my family, focusing on my mother, my husband, my cat my cat you know i've been fixing the house around a little bit just trying to like gain my you know my joy to be like back home you know and it's fun i love it i mean i've been traveling but not as much as it's such a whirlwind after you do the show and that uh everybody eventually like needs some time to like have like okay this is like okay i need to get back to normal a little bit

yes yes because it's a lot i mean when you do survivor you wait for it to air and you're dealing with it and then it's airing and then everything comes out and then you start like enjoying you know just being part of it because I've been a fan since 2000. So it's, you know, I was ready for it and I'm still ready and I'm still liking it. But now I'm finding like when it's better for me, when it's not, when I'm needed, when I'm not needed, where I want to be, who I want to talk to, what I want to watch. Maybe I'm not watching live every day, but I would sure watch the episodes. But, you know, just be more relaxed and save the energy for this, for you, Rob.

For Rob as a podcast. We know it's Survivor.com. Thank you so much for the plug, Jam Jam. And so let's talk about this. We got a two hour, first off, two hour part one of the finale. Crazy. It's like back in the day.

I think at the end of it we got the same amount of um contestants as we got like on classic survivor yeah it's going right the five starting with the final four i mean we haven't had started the finale the survivor finale with the final four since i can't even remember when me either i was gonna ask shaggy pt but i didn't i would say you know i will go back and I will say going out on a limb since survivor Kageyan I will say first time that we go into the finale with just four people And I think it's way easier to digest the contestants this way because for example I can only like I obviously would talk about 44 since that's my season

But there were a lot of good contestants, especially like Jamie and Lauren six and five that because they were like all mesh into our episodes and stuff, like their story just was not maybe as tall as much as the other contestants. But the fact that they're like taking this break and splitting it apart, give the chances for people, you know, to have their moment, which is amazing.

Yeah. So I liked it the way that they did this. It sets up an interesting finale in terms of, it looks like, you know, can anybody stop? Rachel was not expecting Sam to still be here. And we'll talk about what that looks like later on,

but let's, let's get into this. And, you know, I'm, you know, you have not talked about the show at all this season. We've seen this whole journey for Andy, which ends

tonight. And what a great exit interview podcast we'll have tomorrow. Andy and Genevieve on the exit interview. Two great ones. Very much looking forward to that. So be on the lookout for that coming up tomorrow. Then Survivor Know-It-Alls at 3 p.m. with Steven. So what do you think about this journey for Andy? Oh, my God. First of all, I remember watching Andy's on the preview coming out, and I remember hanging out on the Boston Wendell M. Bryce episode when Franny got voted out at the party with us.

I was so excited for him. I was like, oh my God, I remember this guy, blah, blah, blah. Right? And then watching the first episode, he breaking down. When I first saw him this Halloween, I was like, dude, I wanted to smack you across the face. I was like, no way. And he was like, well, have you liked me so far going forward?

I was like, well, I love the way you've grown. But since that moment here, he definitely has left an impact on the game and has been able to become a love player, at least by me. I like him a lot. And now I see why people were like, I think Andy's going to win. I think Andy's going to win. Because his story and his arc and his flipping back and forth was amazing and a lot of fun to watch. Definitely.

Yeah. And it was a lot of fun to watch. And he went through this journey and it seemed like that for a very long time, you know, and he worked to correct it. I wonder, do you think he overcorrected that and certainly maybe revealed too much to Rachel? But it was like the people didn't take him seriously. maybe revealed too much to Rachel, but it was like the people didn't take him seriously, but he was like very quietly building this like speech that he was going to give at the final tribal council of all the things that he had done.

And then he sat down with Rachel and I think he just, he gave too much away. That's his demise. A hundred percent. And the fact that he got captured, the way he got captured, and the way Rachel reacted to it, I was like, dude, that was your mistake.

And I know he's probably back at home since he came back thinking about it. Because I know Rachel told him at some point, that moment, knew I was going to get you voted out. Because was he playing too hard? Was he flipping too much? You don't know until you're there, right? You don't know what you have to do.

You don't know how you don't. Could he have played a more neutral game and gotten as far? Probably yes, but it wouldn't have been as much fun for him or for us. But he was definitely doing amazing. And he showed his card to the person. He shouldn't have done that you don't talk about how you're amazing if you do anything on Survivor where you're on the island it's like

make your threat level low because you don't know what anybody has at any point so just like believe anybody can get you out and the fact that he was so confident was his demise and I guess we're gonna listen to it tomorrow morning yeah we'll hear what he has to say so I know jim i know that andy is also a big big brother fan and i feel like you see this on big

brother where it's like it's eviction night a person is going home and then you'll see like a player will say okay you're going to the jury house let me explain to you my game because i'm not going to get the chance to talk to you on finale night and i kind of feel like that that's what andy was going for there but this isn't big brother that things can still change like and big brother okay one of those two people is going home no matter what it can't switch at the last second exactly i mean like in big brother you know if it's you know you're on the blog you're not going home. And on Big Brother, the communication you have with the final two is very limited to whatever questions amounts they can have and those many minutes they have at the finale because it's live. But on Survivor, you have as much time as you want to explain your story.

So he would have definitely had that moment to explain. Even if Rachel was at the other side and it wasn't still the final three, he could have said his story before that. I don't know. No. Jam Jam, in your winning game, did you ever do something like this where you were wanting to

plant a seed with somebody who was going to the jury about something that you were doing in the game? Anything that I was doing that it was a plus for me i was saying just to the camera and to the producers i was not telling them oh my god i'm angel double what double what double zero um or like i wasn't like doing like double agent or i was like if you write my name i'll vote you out like i was not doing none of that. I was just like going with the flow.

My whole thing was like, this is what the idea I want to happen. Let me see how I can make it work. And Rachel said this in one of the episodes. She said like, I don't want to be the captain of the boat. I want to be the ocean, which is like her way of leading the boat. And that's how you do it. You don't have to tell people I am the number one, you know. You just have to, like, guide the ideas.

And, of course, in my season, I had other people that were also guiding ideas. But you can always shift into what benefited you. And that's what Andy was doing. Like, he would also, like, shift. He was creating a lot of stuff, but he could know who to do it with until he just said everything to Rachel and I was like We saw last week with Operation Italy that it was a vote split gone wrong, but

this week at the final six, would it have been a reasonable thing for the four people that got blindsided by Rachel's idol to potentially split the votes on Rachel and Sue.

Is that crazy talk? Is that asking too much from Genevieve, Andy, Teenie, and Sam? The only reason, and I think it was a missed opportunity on the big group, was one of them not saying, just in case one of these two have an idol, let me throw a vote on somebody else just in case it backfires back to me. Because if you know five people are voting Rachel's way, then why don't take a chance on like throwing a vote just in case because you know

that's not gonna affect you so yeah i think it was a missed opportunity and it was like too cocky of them to do it um after the fact knowing that sue and racial voted together it would have been like a two to two vote but just the lack that nobody did it just in case yeah i think it was a bad move up the other four because don't you have to be saying like what are the chances that there's been no idol here in the post merge like because i mean okay teeny thinks okay that well genevieve has the idol but genevieve sam and andy know that genevieve doesn't have the idol. Yeah. Yeah, whatever that you said. No, yeah, of course.

But they're too cocky. Yeah. Yeah. I think, I think, I mean, obviously, we're watching from the other side. Two to one with a block of votes. Okay, sorry. Teeny, Teeny would have, oh, yes, right. There were five.

But Teeny should have been the one saying, but she's, the way her story's being told, the way she's talking about it, she's too trustworthy. But I think if anybody should have been the one saying, but she's, the way her story's being told, the way she's talking about it, she's too trustworthy. But I think if anybody should have done that, it would have been her. But what are we going to do? Call Teenie back in time and tell her,

girl, like, boy, like, I don't know what to say. Yeah. But Teenie, just vote, one vote out, like, do something fun, like, do it for your fans. We love you, Teenie. Yeah. It was another tough night for Teenie. Another tough night for Teenie.

Lots of emotion. Teenie's been going through, like, this emotional path, which is, like, so amazing to watch, so brave, everything. But another time when Teenie's been disappointed by the fact that the people that tini puts the trust in are like leaving tini out of it and it's like what's going on you know but it's it's that kind of game where you're in it and you become so attached to people and it doesn't matter how many people you have back in the world or your job or whatever you're doing that's your reality those five people those six people's are everything that you want and you need and you trust in and yeah

but teen is still there let's see what happens he said hey good news for Tini Tini's headed to the final three great news for you Tini is going to part two teeny is going to the final three I see no scenario in the world I guess maybe they bring sue to the final three and then but I think it's I think sue and teeny are going

to the final three I think out of the two of them since they are the ones that have like less moves, those will be like the ones with the most gold characteristics. But, well, you don't know. I've been saying for a while that,

that teeny and Sue are, are locks for the final three. That one of the, that somebody out of Andy, Rachel, Genevieve, or Sam, one of them was going to run away with this thing against Sue and Teenie. Well, the thing is

that, yeah, I can see it in Andy, Sam, and Rachel because I can only relate to three people working together in weird ways but um I don't know I I relate to teeny I relate to teeny and I what do you relate to and you know the way you trust people and the way you like approach like the characteristic like of love and like socializing

with people and stuff like that and you know being part of the queer community and that that's obviously amazing but but not as players you don't relate to teeny well i don't know if after playing the game i'm becoming too much of like an idealistic of like i'm rooting for you doesn't matter what oh my god i i don't see wrong in your moves yeah i i understand i didn't say your question um but i'm gonna keep it like okay yeah keep it cute okay all right so let's talk a little bit about uh rachel and uh rachel, you know, turned it on here over these last couple of weeks. What have you thought about the emergence of Rachel as you've watched the season play out? I think starting where she started that it was like bad or like not working out.

that it was like bad or like not working out. I think it's been amazing, especially with all her like wins and advantages and all the hard times and she's getting, I see like, I thought it was crazy that I was watching everything, but then like the contestant were saying like, oh, she's gonna win, she's gonna win, she's gonna win, she's gonna win.

But if you see someone doing everything she's doing, of course you're going to think she's going to win. Who else? Like you see like Jenna B and her and having the banter back and forth and having like this, it's either you or me who's going to win. If we're not there, who is going to win?

Who do you think is going to win? It's going to be, oh, it must be Sam if the two of us are not there. Like it's fun and it's cool to see. I was rooted for women. So it's cool to see i was rooted for women so it's cool to see rachel being like you know the glasses putting her rice in the pocket and just going for it and going hard and i heard she's like a poker player and she's like amazing and she knows a lot of people i didn't know this until i went to orlando last week and people showed me picture of her playing

poker with others of our players I was like, what? Yeah. Yeah. I love it. I think that she's just very sharp, very shrewd. Yeah. She's, you know, very good at like being under the radar. She really had sort of like a quiet pre-merge with the exception of when she tried to steal

the rice. But then really, you know, and then she has the close call. She almost goes home right at the merge, but she's really, these last couple of weeks has just really emerged and has taken over the mantle of being the challenge beast

that she's won three out of the four last immunity challenges. She's playing all the advantages and the idols. And, you know, she's basically, if she gets to the final three, I don't think even Sam can beat her. I see her, the way she's

moving around in the game. And just like you said, playing the advantages the right way. When she played her Shining Desire just to fill the crowd out that was like amazing um and if she can't explain it and i think she has the brains and the words to do it it's gonna be yeah like teeny says chef's kiss but not for teeny but yeah and i i love the moment at the tribal council with everybody where, um, teeny goes into the final six tribal council,

uh, still believing like, Oh, it was just a mix up that happened that Caroline, uh, got voted out. Like teeny still hasn't put it together. What happened at the final seven tribal council?

And yeah, they were like, yeah, I, we don't really know what happened. Uh, it was a miscarriage and and Rachel can I just call this out I feel like that in front of the jury I feel like that comes

across so well as like okay let's listen I'm not playing around I'm gonna tell you all what what happened that's good yeah um because she did like the Tony thing with the shack in the darkness and I love when they shut the camera down yeah and just put the audio of like um rachel listening to everything they were saying this is the kind of stuff that if you keep in your back pocket or like in your little notepad when you go to the end you go like so day seven i heard this and i didn't say anything and day 14 no these are my notes for this just in case I'm stuck. I'm a good student, bro. Yes, you are.

So this is the kind of stuff that people like eat up. Because when they realize that you've been on 100%, even when they think or they thought you were not paying attention, that's what the jury loves. that's why like oh you got me good right and then they think she's gonna go home and then she plays the idol at that tribal council i mean uh the jury is just you know uh going bananas for rachel i said yeah of course and the only thing i wouldn't have to sue I had the idol I think she got too excited

that that day was just coming that she was gonna use it but other than that I feel like her use of the advantages the idols the shot in the dark because whoever uses shot in the dark and it doesn't work it doesn't you know

it doesn't do anything but if you use it in a way that it's like like revealing like matthew used it on the first episode 44 just to like not reveal his scars and stuff like that that's when it's fun yeah um yeah and uh definitely this season helped advance some of the fun ideas for the shot in the dark okay we haven't talked too much about genevieve uh what's been your feeling about Genevieve? I think Genevieve is being badass. I mean, like she's like being like going hard after people and knowing where her time to step up and just like working it out.

And with the soul boat, she definitely like took her time and it worked out. But also I feel like, you know, being there on the Island when I did three and a half years ago and watching it some of this stuff doesn't get told so I was wondering like how many times she probably tried to do it and it didn't work out until now and now when they're showing it like all the way I don't know but it was still amazing to watch. And it definitely gave her a little power. I think what it did maybe was reveal too much to soon her real skills,

which is the only thing against it. But if you have a grudge against someone and you can hash it out, it's so much fun to take the person out. Yeah. So that Teenie had the grudge against Genevieve, is that what you're talking about? I mean, not. Yes. Take the person out. Yeah. So that Tini had the grudge against Genevieve. Is that what you're talking about? I mean, not grudge. I used the wrong word.

If Genevieve had it against Saul for a long time. Oh, okay. Against Saul. And she just wanted it out like a grudge. I mean, like, you know, she had that taste for blood. Yes. That he voted against Rome. And then Genevieve tonight,

she finally, after all this time, she became the Rome following around Rachel as she was looking for the idol. She did Rome's move. I remember, yeah, you're right. I was like, what are you doing? Well, you have to follow me. Oh my God. That would be so freaking annoying.

Yeah. But Genevieve, I think, was such a fun player in this season and I thought that she uh really did such a great job I couldn't believe how long she was able to you know in Survivor I almost feel like that we have rarely seen like a fake idol uh have like success over like multiple rounds of the game. I mean, her fake idol was paying dividends into the final five from the final seven.

There's nothing. If like the rumor of something, this thought I was thinking like watching the thing, the rumor of something and the idea that people believe is real. It is way more powerful than the thing itself because the Zeus idol was real right yeah but I think Genevieve's fake idol was more powerful because of stuff she made so if you have something that multiple people believe it's real then yeah so it's definitely impressive and it was like a tiny little idol. I was like even if people watch it I was like what's that? But now idols are like, you know, it can be anything which yeah, I don't know. I don't like

Now did anybody have fake idols in survivor 44? besides Josh, yeah Jamie had the fake idol. Well Josh. Yes. That's right. So Jamie had yeah, that's right So Jamie had the fake idol, but nobody knew it was a fake idol. Not even Jamie. Not even Jamie because Matthew made the fake idol.

Yes. After Brandon played the idol of the birdcage on the first episode, Matthew found it and then Matthew made the fake idol. He lead it to Jamie,

which was his number one. So she believed it was, when she goes to the other tribe, to Sokka, he tells Carson, Jamie has a real idol so when he gets like removed from the game or yeah medevac or whatever yeah because of the

shoulder the only rumor we have is that it's real from her and from carson and that's why jamie was always a target you know because she has an idol because she has an idol because she said has an idol and then you know it ended up being fake and we found out at the reunion yep and josh had the fake idol that he uh showed you famous what famously happiest fake idol in survivor history i'm so happy i was like first row to it it was like the beats from tree mail i was I was like, are those the beats from Tremé, Josh? Because, you know, I collect like everything Survivor. Like my back at the end of the whole thing was like super heavy because I took everything home. But the beats from Tremé, like I saw it

and they were not even like in a braid or anything. They were like shoe tie laces like that. It was like horrible. Oh my God. Oh my God, it was like horrible oh my god oh my god horrible yeah uh a great moment uh when uh you said are those the beats from tree mail those are from dream no no uh definitely not yeah but genevieve that uh luckily she didn't have to show her fake idol uh too much that in the episode from last week she sort of takes it out and Teenie's like let me see it and

then Andy's coming quick hide it and then nobody has to get a real good look at it but this was such an interesting way that it unfolded where then Sam comes out and says hey Genevieve's idol

is fake Teenie asked, hey, Genevieve's idol is fake. Teeny asks Genevieve, is your idol real? And Genevieve admits, no, it's fake. And they still like, I don't know. Sue says,

no, I'm telling you it's real. And then it's like, also like, no, it's definitely fake. I saw it and I was like, that's real. And then it's like, it also like, no, it's definitely fake. I saw it. And I was like, that's the whole thing. It was like, there's no way why either people should believe it's fake or real,

because that's the whole point of Sam saying something. And Genevieve, I don't know if she said it's fake on purpose, as strategic. Yeah, I'm going to ask her tomorrow on the interview. What was she going for in that conversation with Tini? Yeah, because if she got, like, I don't think Genevieve would be the person who was like, oh, I got caught.

It's fake. I think she just said it to, like, confirm what Sam was saying. So the story would be the same so they can question it. Because if the story had been different, had Jennifer said like, oh, no, it's real, then they would have probably believed Sam. Yeah. So at the tribal council, okay, so you had this interesting scenario of Sam saying like, hey, the idol is fake. And we know that Sue is going to play her idol and Rachel is immune. So it's really Teenie is the one person that's kind of vulnerable.

Teenie, Jeff asks Teenie, you ready? And Teenie says, I'm so ready to vote. Goes into the booth, not ready to vote, struggling to come up with the name. Now, Sue and Rachel are voting Genevieve. Teenie, after all that time, votes Sam. Two things. I wish they put a timer to see how long Teenie was actually there.

And why did Teenie vote for Sam? Was it a split? Was Teenie, like, conflicted in the booth? But why is Teenie conflicted if Rachel and... Maybe because of the idol. Because maybe the idol was true.

And just in case Teenie votes, like, I don't know. If I were Teeny thinking that Genevieve had a real idol, I would have voted for Sam. So at the end of the day,

I think Teeny thought that that was a real idol. I mean, I'm just trying to think like this. Is Teeny thinking like, well, what if, if Rachel and Sam

are going to put their votes on Sue, but maybe Sue has an idol and those votes are going to get canceled. But if maybe Rachel, maybe Rachel, maybe Rachel told teeny that she was voting for Sam and she wanted like two and two. So Rachel,

Rachel trick teeny, maybe not trick teeny, but maybe change the opinion at the end. I don't know. I don't know. Because I was really confused. Even like after the episode, I asked the hand,

I was like, who voted for who again? Because I got like a little confused. I was like, I had no idea what was, you know, going on. Yeah.

Because I thought the whole, but the whole, we did a whole thing about how Teenie was going to get revenge on Genevieve for all the times that, that Teenie, that Genevieve lied in Teenie's, she was playing in Teenie was going to get revenge on Genevieve for all the times that Genevieve lied in Teenie's she was playing in Teenie's face and then Teenie voted for Sam maybe during management

I don't know it's very confusing but I wish there was a way that for Sam and for Genevieve all this confusion could have worked to their advantage. But when they really don't have anything, there was no way that it could have worked unless they were like,

were able to try to get them to say like, Hey, Hey, look, you don't know. We could have the idol tonight. You should vote teeny, but Rachel is immune and Sue has an idol.

So there was really, this was a no-win situation. It was like, kind of like, I think it was a boring vote that the edit tried to make fun, and that's how we got this unexplainable vote, how it happened. Other than Teenie being in the voting booth for like, what, 10 10 minutes i don't know

yeah okay well this sets up this interesting scenario for the uh next week okay one week from tonight we'll be sitting here at least i'll be sitting here and it seems like it's Rachel's game to lose. Except, is there a possibility that Sam wins a Final Four challenge and takes Rachel to the fire and beats Rachel? Is that a possibility for this season? I think it would be the most exciting possibility at that point. Because the two of them are really what stands out as the better gamers right now. What's left of it, right? Not saying that Sue didn't have a good journey or Timmy had a good journey.

It was fine, but neither of them are the winners. Let's be real. When we be shown, because I was there. I know they don't show everything. They don't show everything, and maybe they're like the new Gabler or they're the new Erica, but the winner is either Rachel or Sam, right?

I think so. I think so. And I think even from the first episode when Sam had this I'm a wolf in wolf's clothing quote, I was like, yeah, that's a good quote for somebody that we don't know yet. But that would be the most exciting thing. If you bring this big target to the fire, I mean, in 44, Heidi did it with Carson. This is an exciting moment, and this is something I would love to watch. This is something that Sam

would do. I mean, they've been saying already that Rachel is the fire beast, or the fire challenger, right? So I don't think anybody would want to bring Rachel to fire. But it would be the only chance they have to get rid of whoever is the

biggest threat. Cause it all comes down to jury votes. You have to count the jury votes in your head. Do a little like who's voting, who's Sierra voting for, who's Saul voting for. Yeah. You like run down the list and think what's better for you at the end.

Yeah. I just think that, um, Sam had more of a story. I try not to get too much into the edit reading, but Sam just had a lot going on in the pre-merge that I do wonder, is there a possibility? I think Rachel will win.

I have to think that maybe, is Rachel getting built up really big? And then do we get Sam taking Rachel out at the final four? Well, I don't think that's why the edit and I stopped listening to half the question that you were saying, because that's how my brain works. You know, if it's too long,

I only listen to the first half. Yes. But I feel like the edit for Sam being amazing is like I think Andy's journey is part of like Sam being like a powerful like person that brings like Andy under his like wing and Andy like grows and then Andy overthrows Sam and Sierra and that's why I think Andy had like Sam had a good like pre-merge edit and all of that stuff. And then also the other way you could see like how like Rachel just keeps coming up and up and up. And it's like, wow, what's going on? What's going on with Rachel?

Oh my God. Oh my God. I love her. Oh my God. I didn't know I love her and she's amazing. Yeah. So it all depends. Let me ask you a question.

Okay. So that I feel like it's a little bit of a problem in the game. You have these people that are goats with all due respect. They're great people, Sue and teeny, but they're just no point. Did anybody ever target them at no point? Did anybody ever try to get Sue or teeny out it's just like okay we're never gonna worry about them that's from from the final they get to the merge like okay these people are in the final three same thing last season ben and liz nobody ever said one time we're gonna get rid of them like it's just like okay we're they're just going to the end, these people. When will the players start to look at these people

that have a fast pass to the final three and say, let's take them out? Will that ever happen, Jam Jam? I thought after 44 they would have found out about it because that's how they reacted to us and we got to the end but people in the game strong people are so cocky i don't think they see it i don't think they see like i want to sit with them no i don't think they see the weak people playing, or at least I don't, I'm not saying like everybody that's a goat at the end was a good player, but if you let the impression of somebody that's a goat, I'm going to put myself as an example, like people thought I was a goat,

but you were not paying attention to my conversations and what I was taking notes to and like what I was doing. Then I get to the end and I tell you, this is what I did. Right. But I think people in power and people that are blinded by their strength or power or position, they just don't pay attention that they're making the wrong choices because they feel like they're invincible. Yeah. Is it hard for the players to be able to tell who is actually the zero vote finalists while you're out there can you repeat the question how is it how hard is it for the players to really identify who are the zero vote finalists when you're out there

well you would imagine like the zero votes finals will be somebody that people don't respect right or their games not as a human but as a game as a player so you can have an idea of like okay so this person probably is misunderstood um i've been famously edited and i've been telling like i wanted caroline now because I knew she was more she was playing harder than what people believe she was playing but then the jury didn't see it right so

it just depends who you are if you're connected to the people if you're playing from the other side like you're not playing with that zero votes finalist if you're not playing close to it by distance or like just not by playing with them, you know that person is not going to win.

That person is going to be zero vote. I'm going to have all the votes that the person can accumulate. But if you give yourself a chance, like I'm sure that if you ask people that was working close with Sue, maybe they were like, oh, I think Sue can get a vote or two

because she said something. But I'm just giving her the benefit of the doubt. And maybe it's because I'm older and I'm more gentle now. Had you asked me a year ago, I would have been like, yes, zero vote finalists suck. But not now, you know, I'm like. Yeah, but I guess, so as somebody

who is, you know, a winner, somebody who understands the game, when you were out there, maybe there's other people that are confused about who the zero vote finalists are. Do you know when you're out there of like, oh, the jury is not going to vote for this

person? Do you want me to tell you in general? I want you. I want to know from you, did you know when you were out there in Survivor 44 the players who would get jury votes and the players who would not? I was focusing all my energy on taking people out that were going to get votes. Yes.

Zero votes is a very sensitive name. But I could, I was, we were targeting people that were going to gather votes. Like Jamie was going to get her orange votes. Lauren was going to get her orange votes. And her story was too amazing. You know, like we were like, Franny is too likable. Like we need to take her out. Like you're asking me if we identify the zero votes, but we more identify that we're going to get votes.

At some point, like, Heidi wanted Carson out because Carson was going to get all the votes, you know? So, yeah, we have this idea of this person can definitely get votes. We need that person out. But zero votes, bro? Since you get three out of seven you got, how many you got? No, no, no, no, it was Matt.

Me? I didn't get any votes. I get zero votes, Jam Jam. You're zero too. Yeah. I don't mean to single out anybody specifically. I'm just saying that are you able to,

like, can you tell, like, okay, this is a person that's going to get votes. This is a person. No, you definitely, yeah. Because all we do is talk to each other, right? So we know how people think and have opinions based on other people, right?

So it's the only thing we do. There's no TV, no iPads, no games, no newspaper, nothing, no errands to do. And all you do in your head is sit down and say, this person is not getting anything. This person is getting some. This person is getting my votes. Maybe this person and I would share a few people. So maybe I need to convince them. You know, that's all you do.

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and we'll answer them with Jam Jam. I know you... Sorry, Rob. What's that? I read Rob H.'s comment. Yes. Yeah, stick with Rob C. Stick with Rob.

Focus on me, okay? Tell me, you haven't talked about the season at all. Were there any other things you saw this season in Survivor 47 that stood out to you that you would have liked to have gotten to talk about? Is this a question? I kept reading. I should focus on you. You got to focus on your boy here.

I'm going to shut up. Yeah, don't look at the chat, okay? Okay. You just watched all of this look at the chat, okay? Okay. You just, you just, you watched all of this from Survivor 47, okay?

Were there other things that you noticed during the season that stood out to you that you wanted to talk about? Other stuff that I wanted to talk about? I feel like

at least the, I mean, I think we talked a little bit about it, but I feel like at least that, I mean, I think we talk a little bit about it, but I feel like some of the advantages, at least from like the stuff that she racial was part of, were like better to enjoy watching her getting them and watching like she playing with it because a lot of advantages lately, I'm sorry,

I'm part of it. Yeah. But you know, they don't have a good payoff like we waste like 20 minutes of an episode and then but this at least this season they'd be like interesting i think they've been part of it and people are like learning how to like make make them up and like you know just use them in them in a fun way and just, you know, play while on the island, play like you're a viewer.

And I think that's why Andy was such a fun player to watch because I think he was playing as he was watching himself. Like, what's going to be fun? Just going for it. So I appreciate that for this season. And this season is really cool. Yeah, there were more exciting journeys, certainly the one that Rachel went on.

And, you know, the block of vote ends up, you know, being a factor here tonight on the Sam vote. I thought it was interesting on the block of vote. Sam went up to go vote and it said, oh, your vote has been blocked unless you have an extra vote. has been blocked unless you have an extra vote go and sit in your seat and i think that was interesting that uh somebody like i could block your vote but if you have an extra vote you can still vote that's right it's it's similar to when um heidi had this still a vote yes and um lauren yeah i was like, if she has to steal a vote, does that mean both my votes are just one? And then Jeff tells her, only one vote.

So she has still an extra vote, even though she didn't use it there. But it's fun that that kind of like advantage, steal advantage, or like block advantage, it's only for one vote, and it makes the whole sense, right? That's how it should be yeah so good you know uh we didn't really talk this through with andy if you think andy would have gotten

to the final three do you think that he would have gotten respect from the jury i mean it all depends on how he says his story i feel like if you have the right amount amount of... He told it good enough to Rachel that she was like, oh, my God. That's right. So he probably would have gotten good respect from the jury. It all depends on how bitter the jury is. And they look bitter, right? But I feel like they all were very hard players. And I feel like they would have respected his moves.

they all were very hard players and i feel like they would have respect his moves especially like i feel like if you have a part in voting each person out i think jury members like voting for people that had a plane voting them out like oh you got me so you get my vote so i feel like andy would have gotten like stuff. Yeah. Christian is reacting negatively in the chat to what happened with Sam's vote. He says this destroys all prior precedent of lost votes. Oh, log in. Explain me more. Yeah. So, yeah, I do wonder, like, you know, it had been sort of set up that the players that were there, they didn't really respect Andy's game.

Rachel told Andy about how, like, yeah, your game, it's sort of, she described it as a nothing burger, which is bad. But I think she meant to sort of like, well, no, they're not bad. Just they think nothing of you. And then he ends up telling her about it. And he ends up telling her about it. You know, had Andy voted that Rachel came to him with the plan of, hey, vote with me and vote out Sam tonight. If he goes along with that plan, he ends up saying in the game that is that a big mistake from Andy to not have agreed to Rachel's plan? to not have agreed to Rachel's plan. I mean.

It's great camera work. If he would have said he says what? It was great camera work by your camera. It's crazy. This camera is like freaking me out. It's like I'm watching The Office. It's great. My whole life is The Office. But I forgot what you asked.

We just said that. I got distracted. Yeah. For Andy, should he have gone along with Rachel's plan to vote out Sam? Or at least tell Rachel, okay, I'm with you. I'm voting. If you're voting Rachel out, why not lie to Rachel and tell her you're going to vote out Sam? I feel like any time that you tell someone I'm voting for you, it's a wrong move.

Future players, wherever you're going to play, whenever you're going to play, whatever you're going to do, don't tell someone you're voting them out. Because you give them a chance to switch, change, like retaliation. Even if they don't vote with you that moment the next vote they don't trust you um there's no way there's no way somebody said janjan needs to slide me one of them edibles and it's funny i don't do edibles but um the camera but it's like don't give an excuse for people to hate you why do people like it's just coming back to the cocky thing. It's like, don't be so cocky as to tell people what are you doing? Like, just play along.

And if it works out, then great. I mean, like, if it doesn't work out, then you go back and say like, oh my God, just make up whatever story you want. You know, like, don't show your all your cars. whatever story you want you know like don't show your all your cars and then at the end of it like be really like you're just naked I was like oh my god it worked out or it didn't work out and I told you and now you can't like make something to retaliate against me but it's just a bad move and it's just again the guy got too cocky, was for sure ready. And if you feel like you are on the right, every time, and this is something I don't think I've shared a lot, but I would have all the conversations I wanted to have every single vote, right?

And I would make sure to have all the right conversations with every single person. And every time I was, after we voted, I would sit on the stool and go like, if everybody told me the truth, I'm going to move along. Yeah. You said that to yourself. I told myself in my head. But if they were lying to me, I'm going to eat tonight.

Okay, so it was a win-win. So that's the way I would justify when people were voting out because it drives you crazy. Because every time somebody walks up those steps, you go like, oh, my God, I remember talking to that person. That person told me this. And then I tried to convince them that. And then we agree on this. And I would just tell this to myself every single time.

So every time, like, the vote would come out the right way. I was like, oh, I'm not going to vote. I'm not going to eat tonight. But isn't your superpower, didn't't you say that you could tell when people were lying to you i don't i don't share this enough like i don't share i don't think i've ever said it in a podcast or in a video but it's just the way i would like make myself be okay in that moment but because you don't never you never know if people are telling you the truth like i know and it's my whole thing and i i was like i always said like if everybody told

me the truth and i i have it in my gut and i have the right thing and i have the right numbers i'm here tonight and i'm happy and everything if not i'm gonna go eat mm-hmm so yeah i knew it but there's always the possibility yeah um the rachel and andy relationship ends up being so interesting because we see them it starts in episode one that they hit it off on the beach they're fast friends and then andy says hey wake up early in the morning and let's make a let's make a plan. And he wakes her up and she's like, no. And he wakes her up in the middle of the night. And, you know, he pulls her over and she's like, I can't work with this guy.

And then they're sort of on the opposite sides of things. And then he ends up blindsiding Annika. And then but after the merge, they end up sort of like getting back together and they're going to try to like work together. And then he ends up coming up with Project Italy and then is working on this plan. And the target of the Project Italy only to then survive the hit to then take out Andy in the next round after Project Italy. Is this a whole question or are you already in a statement? No, it's not a question. It's just an amazing run

between the back and forth with Rachel and Andy. Sorry, Rob. So, yeah, it's, sorry, Rob. So yeah, it's fun because it's, it encapsulates like part of like their up and downs of the, of the relationship. And I don't remember who said it today was like,

Oh, all up and downs, Molly downs. I don't remember who was in it to who, but it's, I think that's the fun part of watching a TV show or being part of a TV show of people that are not alike. Like Andy came in saying, this is what I need.

I need a Rachel and I'm going to be her friend. And this is what I'm going to do. And we're going to talk on the beach every morning. And we're going to do it this way. And Rachel freaked out because it was like, that's not good for my game. People are going to know, blah, blah, blah, blah. That's the fun part of pooping.

Putting people together that. Pooping in the ocean. my game before you know blah blah blah that's the fun part of pooping putting pooping putting people together that pooping in the ocean um putting people together that don't see life the same way because they come from two different you know scenarios of life or whatever experiences and then realizing after both of them didn't match on energies and way of acting after the merge yo we only have each other yeah we only have each other and then coming back to the whole oh my gosh she's too amazing i'm gonna kick her out yeah yeah and they really were not a match because that rachel was just like steady the whole way through rachel never got too high never got too low bad things happened she sort of was fine she rode through it andy

the highest of highs and the lowest of lows uh for andy and it was like a roller coaster and they just were never able to like uh like consistently stay together uh and uh amazingly rachel ends up outlasting him and sends Andy to the jury. All right. Let's take some of these questions that we have from our listeners. Okay. Yes. All right.

Let's see. How about question from prayers and ponytails for me and you, if Sue played her vote for Sam or Jen, would that have given her a big move to win depending on the final three? Could Sue have done something with her idol to potentially get something under her belt? I think at this point with Rachel having a necklace and Jen being the other big target, I don't think Sue could have done a lot of it. A lot to like make herself, her light shine brighter.

Because she did what any stable-minded person would do, is keep your head down, don't call attention to yourself, just get as far as you can. And if you hear your name, play your idol. She never heard her name, and she played it the last minute she could because that's what any level-headed, minded person would do. And there's prop to that. That's what should be her argument right um could have she used it and can we play like devil's advocate and tell like oh my god she could have told people

blah blah blah and make have four votes on on genevieve and then use it to get sam out i don't think would have good being good for her because I think Genevieve was still the biggest target, but she could have done that. I mean, if you're going to lose, I don't think Sue in her mind thought she was going to lose, but if you're going to lose, then do something fun with your idol might be my only argument.

Yeah. Do people play for second place? I mean, second place still 15,000 more than third place. But am I being too hard on Sue? Is there a path for Sue? I think so. I mean, she has a lot of blue people in her tribe. She's the only blue left.

There's Gabe and Caroline and Kyle. Is Kyle going to vote for Sue? That'll get three. there's Gabe and Caroline and Kyle. But do you think, is Kyle going to vote for Sue? That'll get three. Can she get a fourth? I don't see her getting more than two. But Caroline, maybe Gabe.

We're talking about second place and then you switch it to four votes. No, I don't see her. No, not really. Yeah, okay. Alright. Let's see. I got a lot of questions about Teenie and Sue. Sydney wants to know, is there any way Teenie can win or are they destined to be a zero vote finalist?

I want Teenie to win Okay how does it happen Do you get a vote Well She Teenie they would have to get Rachel out on fire Or Sam on fire

Like you said earlier about Sam And Rachel That would be something on fire or Sam on fire like you said earlier about Sam and Rachel. That would be something. If Teenie could, after all this, make the fire and beat Rachel, that would be something. That would be the only thing, but again... I do not have a lot

of confidence that this will happen. You don't. I don't think that Teenie is about to beat Rachel in the fire making. They only been talking about Rachel's fire ability. They haven't talked about anybody else's. I mean, I believe Teenie said in the episode that I don't think I could beat Rachel

at fire. There you go. But that can be also, you know, you know how it is. Here's the thing with fire too, just in case. This is my only chance I had to talk about this. Yes.

Last year, Jeff said on 46 that they didn't give materials for the cast to the final four to practice fire. Yeah. 44 also didn't get materials. We only got the flint and the knife. 44 also didn't get materials. We only got the flint and the knife. We didn't get any flint, sticks, rope, nothing. Just in case Jeff forgot, roll the tape.

We had to gather our own husk and stuff, just like 46 did. Yeah. So what did they give you? Because you helped Carson, right, in getting him ready to go into the fire. So they give you like the knife and the flint to do your practice? That's it. That's it. So normally, you know how at the end of the final fire making challenge, they have the drum and they have the rope with the flag

and they have the little knife and the flint and they have like a box of materials, right? Yes. So all the same materials that you have at the final tribal console the final fire making challenge at the final tribal console whatever that's what normally people would get since the moment this thing was created like when people get from the challenge to practice fire they have each of them with their name the flint the the dagger, and the materials, same amount, same kind of materials that we get at Tribal Council.

44, which was the, obviously after Gabler, and Gabler was the fastest fire making at that moment. We didn't get any materials, but we didn't see that season. So we had not, because it was recorded 10 days after, you know, Gabler's. So we didn't get any materials but we didn't see that season so we had not because it was recorded 10 days after you know gigglers so we didn't get any materials and then hi and then we had to gather and that's when like we all if you see like caroline carrying the toolbox because we were gathering stuff i was like with the pot like we didn't have a little box with materials we had to gather our own stuff so i helped carson practice fire with the stuff that we had gathered and that's how i taught him like or at least my

technique of like taking the husk of the palm tree doing a little nest with a little like hole in the middle like a donut and that's where you put all the sparks and you blow it so then 45 they did had materials and then 46 which was the first season that was recorded after watching our finale because they went to record after my finale they didn't get materials and that's when jeff says we didn't give them materials i heard that 46 fire making took a long time. Really? Maybe they should go back to giving them the materials. I think, I think they didn't give 44 materials because Gabler did it really fast. And then Heidi did it without the materials. They get faster than Gabler.

And then for 45, I guess maybe people, they build production and then whatever, 46, because they just watch our finale. So I just wanted to clear that Heidi's faster fire making was without materials that she produced. You know, we haven't talked about Sam at all, who is still here going into the Final Four,

and I feel like has, you know, a puncher's chance going into next Wednesday night of being the winner. What have you thought about Sam? I think Sam is super charming. Yes. I think Sam had the makings of a great player that was noticed too early on, like, at the merge and, like, everything backfired. Bad on him for like getting along with another powerful player in sierra um you said the puncher chance i don't know what that is

yeah he's kind of uh like i i feel like um you know he has a path to win the game which i think so other than rachel i don't think I could say that about the other two. I think Sam has a strong path because of the way he has been able to maneuver the fact that everybody was targeting his alliance.

Yeah. And he seems well-liked. There are people on the jury, I think, that would vote for him. Certainly Ciara I think, that would vote for him. Certainly, Ciara. I think Kyle would vote for Sam. Genevieve would vote for Sam. Potentially, an Andy.

Yeah, because he's relatable. He could beat Rachel, but against Teenie and Sue, come on. You know, it is what it is but no I feel like Sam even if he even if Sam won he would be like a likable winner in terms of like people would enjoy whatever because

some so many shit can come out at the final travel console right because even even even with like I go back to, like, 42 when Marianne against Mike, right? Like, I thought Mike had it, right? And then Marianne did an amazing Final Trouble Council for the cast or the jury. So I don't know. Yeah. Okay. Clarity Peace Love says,

Yam, Jam is so pretty. I want to look at the Jam Cam. That's what we're going to have all season. That's what you should call this. The Jam Cam. The Jam Cam. It's a roller coaster, baby.

Woo! Yeah, it's like Andy's Andy cam. Yeah. Okay. James says, do you think getting Andy out over someone like Genevieve Sam was a smart play? Well, Genevieve was immune. But what do you think about Rachel's decision there to take out Andy over Sam at the final six? I think it was a great decision.

Because with the information that, like, the information that Rachel had, she thought Sam was the biggest threat, but she was seeing it from her perspective of his moves because she didn't know what Andy was doing. And as soon as Andy revealed his little dark book of secrets, she knew

right away that that was the biggest target because Rachel is already thinking maybe before Final Six, she's thinking Final Trouble Console. And she's got a glimpse of his mind. And she was like, no way. I'm got a glimpse of his mind, and she was like, woo, no way.

I'm of a couple of different opinions on this. Like, I kind of feel like that, I think probably Sam is the bigger threat to win immunities, and I think I probably would have been more likely to take out Sam at the final six, but I think that Andy has a better chance of getting with Sue and

teeny and being like, Hey, you know who we really got to get out of here. Rachel. Like I don't, I'm not so worried about Sam and, and teeny and Sue getting together, but I feel like there's like a little bit of a chance that Andy is able

to make that move against Rachel. And that's why you thought she took him out. Well, no, I mean, I think that she took him out for the reasons that she was convinced about his jury speech. I'm just saying, if I was Rachel, I think I still would have probably said, let's stick to the plan and take Sam out here

because I'm a little bit more worried about Sam winning out. But if you watch have you watched the past six seasons of Survivor? The winners and the challenges. I did more than just watch them.

I'm fucking with you. I'm sorry. I'm messing with you. Jeff said it. Jeff said it in the episode today. I didn't mean to put your watching in the, like, you know. It was a rhetorical question. Of course I've watched all the episodes.

No, but even Jeff said it. It was like, Kyle can be, like, the biggest whatever. Yeah. But even half of them haven't won the show, you know? Yeah, but I mean but but like could sam win two immunity challenges like i think that like andy has won nothing in terms of the challenge i mean sam at least has won a bunch of the rewards like i think that like these and these i feel like the five and four like i feel like there's typically five is like a pretty physical challenge

um you know it uh that it ends up not being a chat. You know, Rachel ends up winning this challenge. But, you know, I think that it was, I think I probably, if I was Rachel,

end up voting out Sam, but maybe she was going for it. Like, well, this is the best television to vote out Andy after he tells me his whole plan. Exactly. No,

I don't think she would see him as a bigger, even though he was more physical and stronger and probably faster i don't think she was like prioritizing his challenge record yeah in in the same value as like ratio that you're giving it okay this is an interesting question okay page asks what does the post-merge look like if Rachel doesn't get saved by Saul? Obviously, Rachel is gone, but is the story similar?

How does this whole season play out if Saul decides to do something else with that advantage than save Rachel? That was from the split, right? Yeah. That would have been crazy crazy one of your finest hours in Survivor 44 yeah exactly

but who was the other if she would have been left it would have been all blues right all blues against her and then she would have gone back to probably not with all due respect to Tiana yeah

it would have been a crazy whole other game I don't think even Andy would have been like the character that he was the rest of the game I think it would have been another I don't know so crazy with Survivor even one little thing maybe Sue would have won another, I don't know. Yeah. So crazy with Survivor, like even one little thing can make the whole,

maybe Sue would have won. Probably. Yeah. Or will win. I don't know. I don't know. Okay. All right.

Um, so, uh, some similar questions, uh, from Campbell, uh, whose style of play from 47 do you identify with?

And James wants to know who from this season would you have aligned with? And who wouldn't you align with? You would align with everybody. Anybody that wanted to play with me and laugh at my joke. Yes. Even Jeff. Wow. Who would I have aligned with?

Is there anybody that you really related to in this season? Is there anybody that you really related to in this season? I'm thinking. Because some of them are just so crazy. Like, Rome is like, I don't know. I don't know. He's cool, but I don't know what I'm playing with him.

I like, you know, I like Genevieve's energy. Yes. I really like Genevieve's energy. I really like Genevieve's energy. I think Genevieve is her mind, her like her demeanor, her, the way she like thinks about stuff. I think she's even, I didn't see a lot of fun sides of her, but she was always smiling and laughing. So I think I would have, I would have enjoyed. I like, I like smart, I like smart I like smart you know ladies yeah I think that she would be a fun person to

get to play the game with for sure what about Andy? two questions well the thing is like I know Andy like I met him I hang out with him and but like I told you on the first episode I thought he was so annoying with his panic attack

and I felt bad when I told him to his face I was like I wanted to smack you and then I don't think he liked that I said that what was his reaction what do you think about it now I was like no I do definitely come along I just wanted to tell you that as a big fan because I waited 22 years to play right so I was like, but what do you think about it now? I was like, no, I do definitely come along. I just wanted to tell you that as a big fan,

because I waited 22 years to play, right? So I was like, as soon as I saw it, I was like, oh my God, what's going on? Another person that's not ready for it. Because it's hard. It's hard, you know? But he's very cool. He's a very cool guy.

He's charming. He's a very cool guy. He's charming. He's smart. I mean, we don't get to see that when it's like one-on-one, like with person. We only see it from the other side of the camera. But he wouldn't be my first choice, but he wouldn't be my last either. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. I think you could make it work with a bunch of these different players.

Yeah. I like a lot of them. I did like a lot of them. Okay. Let's see if there's anything else. How about Jeff Probst, Don't Snuff My Torch, says, Jam Jam, was Genevieve's biggest mistake tonight admitting to teeny that her idol was fake seems like if she kept along with the plan the vote could have flipped on to Sam

I feel like and that's I think we already addressed this a little bit was like the Genevieve said it was fake because just going along with Sam would make them doubt the fact that Sam was saying the truth? Has she antagonized Sam with another like opposite information would have just created, you know, a thing of.

Yeah, I think if she says, OK, no, I swear it's real. And then they go back and they say, Sam, okay, Genevieve says it's real. And then he like spills the whole thing. I gave her the idol. I found it at God to Beach. I had the idol. It was good for one tribal council. We went to like, so

I think if she calls him a liar, I think it really starts to unravel the whole thing. Yeah, I think it's better just to go along with it. I think it probably worked as good as it could have. Yeah, I think it's her best route once

Sam said that to Tinny, was just go with it and then that's why Rachel and Sue doubted that the idol was fake or not because both of them were saying the same thing. Give me your predictions for the next two hours of Survivor. The winner of the Final Four Immunity Challenge will be whom?

I think the winner of the Final Immunity Challenge would be Sam. Okay. All right. Well, that sets up all of the intrigue. Sam will do what in the fire making? I think Sam does not have the balls to go to fire.

You don't? I don't think so. Has he made fire? I mean, I haven't seen it on the show, but what do you think he's going to like? He's going to just take his spot and put Rachel in in the fire against i do think that sue is actually pretty good at the fire i think i think sue is like carolyn like i am pretty sure she practiced every single day since she started watching survivor okay so you think that sam puts rachel into the fire against sue Sue?

Yes. Okay. And then what happens? Does Rachel beat Sue? Rachel wins. Rachel wins. Okay. And then Rachel,

Teenie, Sam goes to the final three and Rachel wins. Rachel has to win. That's the official prediction. Nobody else has done everything that she has. I mean, unless something comes up. Have we seen it where that Sam wins the immunity and says, OK, I'm taking on Rachel.

I'm going to risk it to get the biscuit. Rachel, you and me in the fire making and then loses the fire. Has that happened where the final four immunity winner goes into fire and loses? No. The only two people that have done that are Chris Underwood and Heidi. Yeah.

And both of them won. Both of them won. That would be interesting to see somebody who goes into the fire and loses. And loses. Yeah. Damn. Tough way to and loses. And loses. Yeah. Damn. Tough way to go up.

You go out swinging. I would not come back to Final Travel Concentrate if that happened to me. If I win necklace, I go to fire, and I lose, I skip it, bring me home tomorrow. Yeah. Okay. All right. So set up for some intrigue, I think. If Rachel wins the Final Four Immunity Challenge,

I think it's over. I think Rachel doesn't need to make the fire. No, she doesn't need to make it. Yeah. I'll take the seat. I'll take Teenie to the finals, and then Sam and Sue go to town. I think that's a safe.

Yeah. Okay. And I think, again, if that was the case, Sue probably would win the fire. Yeah, I don't see Sam or Teenie being good at fire. Mm-hmm. Okay. At the final tribal council,

will Sue reveal that she is not 58 years old or that she's not 45 years old? If she makes it and she says that, would people be impressed? I would be impressed. I mean, just like I was,

you know, impressed about Carson Lyon about his job and stuff, but it's stuff that, like, I know people say it's like a short time and everything, but once you're living with these people and you have nothing else to do,

like, anything they say is the only thing in the world. And if people tell you that, it kind of blows your brains. You're like, poof. Did you reveal anything that you were untruthful about at the final travel council? The only thing that I was not truthful was that I was the owner.

Did you reveal that at the final travel council? It never came up. I just said it once when we're in Ponderosa. Yeah. Okay. Cause I didn't want people to misunderstand you know I said my job was true and a lot of the stuff that was true

but you know yeah you don't want to say that it's more sharp man it's cuter yeah like you're the boss now Rob you know if you go back play 15 people know you're the big you know the big, you know, the big boss. People don't like that.

I have to lie about my age. Tell people I'm 25. No, they know you're going to be the old guy unless Tyson is there. I'm 32 years old, everybody. What do you think of that? You're going to say my t-shirt is 32 years old.

We're going to wear a 32-year-old t-shirt is 33 but we're gonna wear a 32 year old t-shirt yeah okay uh let's talk about uh what's coming up here on rob has a podcast of course uh we got some fun stuff coming up this weekend over uh make sure you subscribe to we know survivor.com got double exit interviews then also also Survivor Know-It-All. Drew Basile is going to stop by this weekend. Plus everything else going on over in the We Know Survivor feed, including it looks like Omer is going to stop by the B&B this weekend as well. So check that out. Then the Wandoff was back.

Jam Jam, do you remember the Wandoff? I don't know what it is. The song is our song parody contest. And we brought it back with Wanda and Casey Kasem and Josh Wiggler and Chappelle this past Monday night. So check out all of the Survivor 47 song parodies on the Club Condo special Wandoff edition. And then on Friday, I'll be taking questions from the patrons. You can listen to

our Survivor 47 patron Q&A at 3 p.m. Eastern. Patrons will send you out the link on Thursday, so be on the lookout for that. Jam Jam, what exciting things do you have coming up besides all the work you're doing? Well, you know, what do I have coming up?

Nothing. Work. I'm going to be painting my house. But if you're ever in Puerto Rico or anybody's in Puerto Rico, come to my hair salon. Yes, I would love to. In San Juan. I have a few trips coming up with some Survivor players from the past. So that's going to be fun.

What are you doing? Where are you going? You know, the world. Trips with Survivor players going around the world? Yes. Are you going on the Amazing Race? No. Oh.

Even if I was, Rob, yes, I'm going on Amazing Race. You can tell, yeah, tell Phil and Jesse that I have my backpack. Who's your partner? Whoever they want to. Yes. I'll do it. I'll do it. Wow. No, I'm kidding. Not with anyone.

But, you know, just give me a list of three people and I pick who I want to do it. Wow. No, I'm kidding. Not with anyone, but you know, just give me a list of three people and I pick who I want to do it with. pick, we'll give out three people. I'll ask chat GPT and then you get, and then you go. Yes. But I mean,

like I post most of my stuff on Instagram. That's what I use the most, you know, at Y a M I L P R, which is my full name. Jamil PR from Puerto Rico. And my website, jamjampr.com, you know, I also have some stuff there. Oh, I have a cruise next July.

Yes. That's going to be fun. Okay. Is that where you're going around the world with survivors? No, that was a whole other thing. I forgot. Okay. Yes.

So tell me about the survivor cruise. It's going to be Sandra and other people and me and Sandra's daughter, Nina, which is also a winner from Anonymous and Jerry Mantley, which I met last weekend. It was amazing. So you went to the event in Florida.

How was that? The new Over the Edge Celebrity Weekend in Melia, Orlando. It was for Charity. Yes. Who doesn't like Charity? And that was a lot of fun. I mean, a lot of players were there. I met Ethan Stone.

I met Ethan Stone back in 2002 when he was on Miss Universe Judge. Oh. In Puerto Rico. And I don't know where that picture is at. It's somewhere like in my family. Did he remember meeting you in 2002? No, he doesn't. Yes.

He remembers why he was there. But it was cool meeting him after 22 years. Yes. So, you know, now as a fellow winner. So that was fun. Yeah. So it's great always to be around people, you know, now as a fellow winner, so that was fun. Yeah. So it's great always to be around people, you know, that have gone through this together. Even if people that are not in your season, like you, you're able to like share experiences.

Yeah. Can I ask you a personal question? Did, sometimes when you go to these things that you have a roommate, did you have that? Did you ever a reality star roommate? Yes. I was with Heidi. Oh,

okay. Yeah. From yours to your, your Heidi, not my Heidi. Exactly. That's the thing we have in common. We both,

we both, we both are close friends with a Heidi. A powerful one. Smart one. Power with Heidi. A powerful one. A powerful Heidi. A powerful, intelligent Heidi. Yes. I'm blonde. No, I'm kidding. Heidi Lagares Greenblatt

is not blonde. Yeah. Lagares Greenblatt has the longest last name in Survivor. Wow. So, I was Paris Greenblatt has the longest last name in Survivor. Wow. Yes. So, yeah, so I was rooming with her. Like, we got a good situation.

Like, we got two, it's like a suite. It's like, it has a common space and then two rooms. So I was there with my husband, Karim, and Heidi was in another room. Yes. And it was just a blast. She'll, you know, spend time with fans, but a lot of people are Big Brother, The Challenge.

Can you spill the tea? We saw Teenie got very drunk. Did any of the reality stars overindulge at the charity event? Other than me? Only you? No, other than me. I mean, there's a few

ones, but who can blame them? It's a party. Yes. I got to spend a lot of time with King George from Australia. He's always fun. And Johnny Furplay,

you know, they're friends. I mean, they're from... Oh, they are friends. They're very close. Yeah, they're like, they're close to you when they're like in the States. So you know how it is.

Mm-hmm. Yes. Okay. Those two are attached at the hip. When you say, mm-hmm, you want to say so much more and you are not saying it maybe offline this is only for the patrons up to the patrons for you and the patrons i'll tell all my stories all right uh so jim jim thank you for coming here and we got so much to do tomorrow as we unpack the final six and final five of Survivor 47 and then one

week from now we'll know the winner of Survivor 47 if you can believe it. So thank you so much for joining us. I'm so ready. Thank you. We will be reading your comments here on YouTube so please let us know what you think

and see you on Thursday. Have a good one. Bye.