Rich Habits Podcast - 53: It's Our Birthday! Rich Habits Year in Review
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Hey everyone and welcome back to the Rich Habits podcast, a top five business podcast on Spotify.
Surprise, it's our birthday.
We are officially one year old now.
We've been doing this podcast for 52 weeks plus and we are so excited to jump into everything.
But before we jump into the birthday activities, we have to give our normal intro.
So if you're not aware, my name's Austin Hankwitz and I'm joined by my co-host, Robert Croke.
Robert is a seasoned entrepreneur in his 50s with more than 200 million.
and company exits under his belt, and I'm an entrepreneur in my late 20s with a background
in finance and economics. Since quitting my full-time job and corporate finance a few years ago,
I've built a seven-figure media business and actively advise some of the most well-known
fintech companies around the world. As the show name might suggest, every episode, we talk about
rich habits as they relate to business, finance, and mindset. However, we try and bring you two
unique perspectives, one from an industry veteran, which is Robert, and the other myself, someone who's
still in the process of building wealth and figuring it all out.
Robert, I'm excited to jump into our birthday episode.
So what are we going to be talking about?
Austin, it's our birthday and we're officially one years old.
I'm so excited for this episode and to have the opportunity to take a walk down memory lane
with all of our listeners.
As you all know, the Rich Habits podcast started from a DM.
Austin sent me on TikTok after I had posted my mega viral video,
how to become the first millionaire in your family.
So we want to start this walkdown memory lane with that first episode published back in late February of 2023, which now has more than 500K downloads and 2 million impressions on Spotify alone.
Yeah, that was an awesome video you had published, Robert.
It got over, I think, 30 million views across Instagram and TikTok and inspired us to make that first podcast episode.
So why don't we kick this walkdown memory lane off with talking a little bit about that episode, Robert?
why was it so important? Give us the sort of takeaways that really stood out to you and what you
think really resonated with our listeners. Yeah, you know, as they say in business and we see all the
time on Instagram and TikTok and X and everywhere is your one video, one meeting, one phone call
away from a totally different life. And that was my video. That was the one. It changed my life
in the course of my Instagram and TikTok following literally overnight by hundreds of thousands of
followers. And what that video was was just an unscripted kind of expose of me just after a couple
glasses of wine walking down the street telling everybody, here's how to become the first millionaire
in your family. And I think that kind of crude, you know, just unedited version of my thoughts is what
really made it strike a chord with TikTok listeners and followers and just really catapulted
everything that we've been doing and I've been doing over the last few years into the limelight
because the video was so wildly successful. And in that video, we talked about kind of three
key points. Investing early and often is number one. This is so important. You and I beat this
drum every single day. People need to learn investing early and often is key. Let compounding do
its job. It doesn't matter if you have $100 a month to start $50 a month, $1,000 a month.
The key is just getting started. So investing early and often is so important. A lot of the fake
gurus out there say, oh, if you don't have $10,000, you're wasting your time. And the key here
in the message is don't listen to them because they just want to sell you something. And they have
no understanding of why that's so important to building wealth. Number two was changing your mindset
to include investing, shying away, changing that mindset from a consumer-based mindset to an
investor-based mindset. So I think that was a big takeaway on that video. Everyone really kind of was
pulled in by that sentiment of you have to stop thinking like a consumer. And what that means is
every time you get money, instead of thinking, how can I spend it, you flip the mindset to how can I
invest it. And that is one of the biggest things everyone listening needs to look at.
learn. And if you have a friend that's struggling from this or a cousin or whoever, share that video
with them because it's so, so important. Once you start thinking like an investor with your money,
even if it is only $100 a month, you all of a sudden walk a little taller. Your shoulders are back
a little more because you feel like you're finally in the game and you're taking control of your
finances. And that is so critically important. And the third part of that episode that was really
important was getting rid of your time sucks. And you all know what that means. I say it in the video.
I'm not saying get rid of Netflix. I'm not saying don't do your fantasy football drafts. All I'm saying
is dial it back a little bit. Take those extra hours you have every day, every week, every month,
and put them into a side hustle or a new skill set because then from there, you can create those new
cash flow revenue streams that can then go into your investment strategies. So those were the three
takeaways of the video that put me on the map and got Austin and I together through a DM on TikTok
to make the rich habits community and podcast a reality. Yeah, Robert and I are both really,
really grateful that you all liked that podcast episode so much, so much that you kept coming back
every week. I mean, Robert shared that episode had over half a million downloads. It's been,
you know, shared across Spotify now over two million times, which is unbelievable to us to even
think about. And it spawned the Rich Habits podcast, right? Because of that and the awesome feedback we got,
we kept with it. And now we've got well over 70 episodes of this podcast, live and out onto the ethos
and on Spotify, on YouTube, everywhere that you listen to podcasts. We're really, really grateful and
excited for that. Now, Robert, we started this episode off with reminiscing on our first ever
podcast episode and what inspired us to make that episode, which has now turned into the most
watched and shared episode of the podcast so far. But now, now it's a lot of a podcast. But now,
only makes sense to talk about the episode that catapulted us to the number one slot on the
Spotify business chart back in late September of 2023. So Robert, what episode was that and what did we
talk about on that episode? Why did people love it so much? Give us the breakdown. Well, first, I want to
touch on the fact that you just gave me goosebumps, but yes, that was episode 29, the three simple
steps to wealth. That episode had three main points and it starts out with opening the Roth IRA and
investing consistently in it. So many people skip this important step. They want to jump right into buying
some meme coin or they want to jump right into buying individual stocks. Well, I will fall on the sword
and I did a TikTok recently about it that I think having the Roth IRA setup is one of the most
important things you can do in your financial journey. End of story, full stop. It's just so
incredibly important. And I looked up what's a stat today too. And I want to read this stat. And I believe
it was that only 18% of U.S. adults currently have a Roth IRA setup, which is crazy to me.
Because I think it is the best tool out there to build on your financial journey. And I believe that
everyone the day they turn 18 should have a Roth IRA opened up. Number two in that video and
episode is I talk about buying real estate the right way and what does that mean. So we broke down
all the different ways to get mortgages that you should house hack to begin. And I still believe
that stands true today. House hacking, I think, is the number one most important thing anyone can do
in the beginning of their real estate journey.
So how do we break that down?
The simplest form is go find the best mortgage for you.
In my opinion right now is the Fannie Mae 5% down mortgage.
It's a tremendous product, easier to qualify for.
You can buy up to $1.5 million and up to four doors.
Now, not saying you have to spend a million dollars on your first property.
It all depends on the area you're in.
It could be a $300,000 duplex, but that you're going to house house.
in the beginning because, again, I don't believe anyone should buy a primary home as their first
investment in real estate because you're tying up too much cash, too much credit, and it's just
not a great investment to start. Number three, and probably Austin and I's favorite is to diversify
your portfolio to fit your needs and risk tolerance. Austin, I'd love to hear your take on this one,
because you're very, very good at this end of the spectrum. Yeah, I think a lot of people,
because of our podcast and of course other information online. But we talk about this a lot, Robert,
which is really having that self-reflection of your own needs as an investor. For me, for example,
I love passive income. I love getting my dividend distributions every single month. I love doing my
covered calls. I love making money passively using my investment portfolio. So I have been able to
diversify my portfolio to fit that need and the risk tolerance that comes with that. Other people may
really, really want to diversify toward much safer things like T-bills or high-yield savings accounts,
that's cool. Or on the other side of the aisle, people might want to diversify toward Bitcoin and
cryptocurrencies and other sort of stocks that have high beta and have a lot of volatility that come
with them. That's what's so important about having that self-reflection with yourself is you
understand what your risk tolerance is. You're honest with yourself about what your needs are as
an investor and you can diversify your portfolio to fit those needs and fit that risk tolerance.
So I agree that is a very important part of your wealth building journey is to have that portfolio
that's not just all about what people on the internet tell you, write the index funds in real estate,
but to also have things like passive income focused vehicles like the SPY or QQQIETFs,
or maybe even cryptocurrency or other high beta stocks that come with volatility, but also potentially
more upside.
Yeah, I think it's so important for everyone to understand that investing and building wealth is
not a one size fits all journey. Everyone can think the best laid plans are going to get them where
they want to go. And that's what we try to provide each and every day through our content in the
Rich Habits podcast is giving people the blueprint. If all things, if everything goes well,
and you follow along, you take notes and you take action and you really do these things,
it's inevitable you're going to be wealthy. That doesn't mean there's not going to be bumps along
the way. Trust me, I've had situations come about.
out that have caused me to lose millions of dollars over the years or have a really bad period
in my financial journey where I'm going backwards instead of forwards. This happens all the time.
That's why we always talk about diversifying in your portfolios and why it is so important.
Make the plan, execute the plan, stick with the plan, and always be ready that things can come up
to change the plan, but that's okay because you're on the right road. So speaking of
building and diversifying your portfolios.
Our friends at Public recently launched their own podcast called The Rundown.
A new rich habit that you can work into your daily routine is listening to The Rundown,
Publix's new financial podcast.
Robert, I actually am a big fan of the podcast.
My close friend Zaid Edmani is the host of the podcast.
He is a hilarious finance content creator.
He's got a lot of personality, but very smart guy.
You know, this podcast is only five minutes long, right?
Five minutes.
That's it.
And you'll walk away caught up on which stocks are making the biggest moves for the day and the
economic stories that matter most for your portfolio.
So check out the rundown wherever you listen to your podcast.
And we'll also be sure to share a link in the description below.
I listen to the podcast.
I think it's great.
So go check out the rundown.
And to be clear, when you hear us talk about another podcast or another newsletter or someone
else that provides great information, it's not from a lack of us doing our own research.
Trust me, we learn from other people. There are a lot of smart people out there, experts in their
own right in what they do. And what I think we're best at is aggregating all of the best strategies
and information for all of you to put it into bite-sized chunks so you can act upon it.
So that's why I wanted to touch on that just for a second, that we have so many podcasts and
so many newsletters that we enjoy as well. Not that we want you to go anywhere, but just to
touch on that because it is important to know that we're always aggregating the best information
we can find. 100%. And the rundown is definitely one of them. Now, we can't take a walkdown memory
lane without bragging on some of our favorite ideas and concepts from 2023. The first thing that
comes to mind for me, Robert, which is something you've talked about a lot, was artificial
intelligence. Oh my gosh. 2023 was the year of AI and it seems like 2024 is still shaping up to
run with that momentum. I know Nvidia was something we talked about. I think it was on even episode 12 or
15 way back in June. And we talked about Nvidia, AIQ, and some of these other artificial
intelligence focused investment ideas. And Nvidia alone is up 170% as a stock since we published
that episode. Robert, what do you think about when we talk about AI and reflecting upon some of that?
What gets you excited? I mean, it's just incredible because I remember back in like September, October of
2022. I did a video talking about Navidia, AMD, and I think Palantir. And all these people are like,
oh, it's a flash in the pan. AI is not going to go anywhere, protect our jobs and all of that.
And it's just amazing looking back at all the episodes where we've talked about the Navidias and
the AMDs and some of these other AI's AIQ has done really well. And then also some of the
cryptos we've talked about in that market. Fetch AI has been one of my biggest callouts this year,
AGIX, Ocean Protocol. So I think 2023 was the year of Navidia and AI, but I think AI still has a long
way to go in the next two to three years. So I'm super bullish on it and always looking for
the next big moment in AI, not only for myself and you and I, but also our listeners. So it was a
great year for us. Navidia was up 170% since that call out and some of the others were up even more.
So very, very excited about that sector and even moving forward into 2024 and 2025.
Yeah, thinking about, you know, something else we talked about.
You mentioned cryptocurrency, Robert.
One of the first episodes we had, I think it was in the first 10 episodes, was how to build an investment portfolio from scratch.
And, you know, I think our third point as part of that episode was including some diversification, something we just talked about, into cryptocurrency, mainly Bitcoin and Ethereum.
If you look back to see when that episode was published, Bitcoin is up 102% since mentioning that.
And then Ethereum's up another 71%.
So if you did build an investment portfolio from scratch on that day, well, congratulations.
You're probably somewhere in the green on your cryptocurrency allocation inside of that.
Yeah, you're definitely beating that target date fund that your works got you in in the 401k.
So that is why we talk about diversity.
You know, the average target date fund, I think, in 2003 made like five.
5.8% return while QQQ alone was up over 40%. So just amazing stuff. Yeah. I mean, even just thinking about now as our final callout and idea for
23, just this long one year sort of reflecting upon the last year up until last February, Robert,
was index funds. I mean, as boring as they are, we kept beating the drum on how important it is for people
to have the S&P 500, the NASDAQ 100, even some of these larger, call it, ETFs that are
focused on big tech like VGT or even VTI or moat or some of these other names, right?
These index funds crushed it in 23 and to start the year of 24.
So as we always say, it's very, very, very important to have index funds as the base layer
of your investment portfolio.
We want the majority of your invested capital to be in these diversified index funds before
you jump into the other ideas.
But it also goes to show that these index funds are not boring, especially when we have
years like 23 and what has been awesome now for 24 seeing new all-time highs in the S&P and these other
indices. Yeah, everyone's always, you know, you look at our DMs on the public lives and everyone's
always in such a hurry thinking they're going to find the next meme coin or they want a 4x trade or
they want a day trade and all that. And guess what? You just don't get rich doing that. Yes, you might
get lucky and hit a flyer and get 100x return. But for anyone that wants to jump into our comments and
say, oh, this is old school mentality talking about QQQ or VO, well, guess what? If I'm old school
thinking and QQQ made me 42% last year, I'm good with that. So for me, again, to reiterate what
Austin said, having that base in these index funds first, we always talk about get that first
100K, get it making you money. That's why we talk about the base and then everything else fills in
to diversify your portfolio. Robert, we are officially a one-year-old podcast.
with more than 70 episodes published on Spotify.
We are super grateful that everyone listened to our first episode
becoming the first millionaire in your family.
They also propelled us to number one by listening to our episode number 29,
the three simple steps to wealth.
And of course, what's an episode of walking down memory lane
without bragging on yourself and some ideas you had back in the day?
So everyone, we are so, so grateful for your continued support,
especially as we now head into, gosh, Robert,
I can't believe we published over 70 episodes of this podcast.
I mean, I can't wait for the next 700.
Man, I can't either.
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Now, our question and answer segment is going to be kicked off by Lynn.
Lynn. Lynn says she's currently a first year in college and she's received a job offer to work part-time during school and full-time this summer with a solid wage.
Lynn says she currently has $5,500 in student loans at a 5.5% interest rate.
And so her question is, should I start paying off my student loans as soon as I start working?
Or should I save up to pay next year's tuition without needing a loan?
Any advice you have is greatly appreciated.
So, Lynn, I think it's probably best for us to kick this answer off by talking.
just a little bit about what the Joe Biden administration has done as it relates to student loan
forgiveness recently. According to the White House, a borrower can qualify for the forgiveness if they've
enrolled into the administration's saving on a valuable education acronym Save. Repayment plan,
and I quote, have been making at least 10 years of payments and have originally taking out
$12,000 or less for college. So, for example, a borrower enrolled in the Save program who took out
14,000 or less in federal loans to earn an associate's degree in biology, for example,
would receive full debt relief if they have been making payments for at least 12 years
because every additional 1,000 borrowed above the 12,000 is another year of payments that
person has to make before they get the forgiveness. So that's the reality right now. And so by the way,
if that applies to you, go get your free money, I guess. But I just want to preface that with the
fact that you don't want to be one of the people that has to depend on this type of
forgiveness in the future to build wealth and live your life. What I mean by that is if you have
$12,000, $10,000, $6,000, $4,000 of student loans hanging around and you've been paying on them for
over a decade, I would just really want to encourage you to figure that out differently, right?
We've talked about this all the time on the podcast. It's like, don't keep around this high
interest, even medium interest debt. If you could just get after it, pay it off and use that
money every month instead to invest. Imagine what that $3, $500 a month,
payment for the last 10 years, someone's been paying to pay off their $10,000 in student loan debt
would be if they had just invested it into the S&P. I mean, oh my gosh. But to answer your question,
Lynn, very specifically, I would personally not pay down your existing $5,500 yet. If you can
save up to take a dent out of next year's tuition, so you have to borrow less, I would consider
doing that first. And it's okay to have student loan debt when you graduate. I don't want you to
feel like it's a very, very bad thing. But what's not okay,
is keeping it around like a pet and paying on it for the next 10, 12, 15 years.
No, I love this answer from Austin.
And it really, in my opinion, makes great sense.
Since this is new student loan debt and it's at a decent interest rate,
I look at it this way from my opinion,
I would take every dollar I'm making right now with that side job
and I would chunk it into an investment account.
Maybe it's in your Roth IRA.
And I just think that would be a really great strategy to look at.
Yeah, I think all in all, the most important thing to remember here is not to go into a crazy
amount of debt for a degree that is useless to you. You want to know exactly how much you're
borrowing, which it obviously seems like you know. You want to know exactly what you're going to make
out of college, which it seems like you probably know, considering the questions you're asking
right now, and you want to know exactly how long it's going to take you making that money
out of college to pay off those student loans. As long as you can follow that protocol and pay them
off within one, two, five, six years or so, you'll be just fine. Thanks, Lynn, for the question.
Our next question comes from Kendra. Kendra says, I'm new to investing and I've never invested
into individual stocks before. It's mostly just been S&P 500 ETFs and different bonds. Is it better to
invest into technology ETFs rather than direct stocks like Nvidia, Apple, or Amazon, or the other
way around? I want to learn how to analyze individual stocks and manage these, but I don't know if I'm doing it
the right way. Yeah, Kendra, we talk about this every single day to the thousands, millions,
whatever it is of people that follow us along through social media. And we always talk about the
importance of building your base. And what does that mean? You hear earlier in this episode,
we talk about the Roth IRA, and that's where I think you should start. Get the Roth IRA set up
in a brokerage account, get a basket of these tech ETFs that you can set yourself up and take the risk
out of it from you managing it and you trying to understand it and let the pros do it. And what does that
look like? You could look at QQQ, you could look at VO, you could look at V-O-O, you could look at V-T-I-I-Q, and really
balance yourself out to start. Then once you get a handle on things, you get that base built,
then maybe a couple years down the road, you can start picking some individual stocks. After you've
followed the Rich Habits podcast a little bit longer, read up some more books so you understand how
all of this works. But to start out easy and in the best way, I would go for that Roth IRA and the
basket of funds. Yeah, that's a great start. And I think Kendra, as you would seems like you're
looking to be more curious into picking specific individual stocks, a couple things to do and consider.
The first thing you want to do is familiarize yourself with the Form 10K. You can go to
SEC.gov or even go to Google. Just type in Nvidia 10-K. It'll likely be the first site that
pops up from Google, but that is the 200 or so page report that NVIDIA files with the
securities and exchange commission that breaks down their entire business. They talk about how they
make money. They talk about the risks associated with their business and the landscape they
market inside of. Every single publicly traded company has to report this to the SEC, and it's called
the 10-k, the 10-K. You don't have to read the whole thing. It's several hundred pages long,
but I definitely encourage you to read the business part, the risk part, the financial statement part,
even the compensation part to see how some of these executives are getting paid.
That's the first place I would start before investing into any individual stock.
The second place I would do is I would go to their investor relations website.
You can go to Google again and type in Apple investor relations, click enter,
and it's going to be the first one that pops up more than likely.
And what this is is it's a dedicated portion of these companies' websites that only focus
on stock market moving news.
Think big press releases about products.
or financial results or any big change in leadership, right? Any big deal as it relates to this company
that can definitely move the stock price or has some sort of impact on the company's future
is going to be reported and shared on this section of their website. You'll see their recent quarterly
earnings. You'll see their annual investor reports. You'll see their investor day webcast. There's a bunch
of presentations there. Familiarize yourself with the investor relations section of a website
of a company that is a single stock you want to invest into. And the last thing I would do is I would
look for outside research. For me, that means going to Seeking Alpha. It's a great website,
SeekingAlpha.com, where there's a bunch of analysts across the entire spectrum of disciplines
that are posting about specific stocks that give them buy, sell, or hold ratings. You can even
see Wall Street's price targets on those stocks. You can see their forecast on their financials and
their profits and their margins, things like that. It's a wonderful resource if you really want to nerd out
on single stock picking like I do.
So go check that out.
Go read some analyst reports.
It's really important to read analysts that give single stocks that you're interested in,
buys and sells.
So you can see both sides of the equation of what might be good, what might be bad.
But those are my three biggest tips for you when doing your single stock research.
So that was a lot.
Austin went down a rabbit hole.
That was incredible.
We're always learning from Austin.
But what that means in layman's terms, do your own research, understand what you're
investing in and just always use good resources on your learning journey because that will help
you understand what you're doing and how to move forward in your investment career.
I appreciate the kind of words, Robert.
Our last question comes from Yolando.
Yolando says, hello, Austin, Robert.
I started listening to the Rich Habits podcast about a month ago and I love all the content
and advice you give to your listeners.
It's definitely changed my mindset and how I look at my finances.
I recently started doing Uber Eats as a side hustle.
I plan on putting aside 20 to 30% of the money I make for taxes.
Is it smart to put that 20 to 30% in a high-yield savings account or T-bills?
Do you guys have any advice on where I should park this money?
Thanks in advance.
Robert, what do you think?
Yeah, I love this.
And I am so happy that people are learning to not let your money just sit in a savings or checking account.
That's financial suicide.
You have to have velocity on your money at all times.
Every single time you get that money, you need to get it working for you because then you're just
adding in layers of profit from these various investment strategies. And I love the fact that you're
talking about high yield savings and treasury bills because those are tried and true. They're safe.
And you have a good return on those. So you have velocity with your money. So I love that.
So personally speaking here, Robert, I keep my own, you know, tax liability projections or so in a high
yield savings account. And it's allowed me to earn, you know, a couple hundred extra dollars per month
on that money while I'm waiting for Uncle Sam to come knock on my door and ask me for all my tax
money. But I use public.com's high-yield cash account for that. It pays 5.1%. If you want to go check that out,
there's a link in the show notes below. It'll take you to public.com slash rich habits. That's our
website there. You'll get a nice little gift whenever you sign up. But yeah, that's what I do. It's the
easiest way to earn a little bit extra with your tax savings. So Yolando, when you do have to pay the IRS
on that money, you've got a little bit extra on that money. You've got a little bit extra on.
top in case maybe you did your projections wrong or it could be even thought of as a refund of sorts,
assuming you don't owe more than what's in that account. So what a great question from Yolando.
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