Right About Now - Legendary Business Advice - American Values Guide Business Dominance with Bedros Keuilian
Episode Date: March 21, 2023Welcome to the latest edition of The Radcast! Ryan Alford interviews Bedros Keuilian, an American Entrepreneur and a believer in the American Dream!Having immigrated to escape communism and build a be...tter life for himself, his family & their future generations, he has achieved tremendous business success as an entrepreneur & investor in over a dozen industry-leading brands. Named three times by Inc Magazine among other accolades such as Entrepreneur's 100 fastest growing franchise brands in the world - it’s no surprise that this founder also wrote the Wall Street Journal Best Selling book Man Up – How To Cut The BS & Dominate In Business and Life!Tune into this episode now where he will help you get unstuck so that you can reach your fullest potential - no matter what obstacle stands before you on your journey. Know and apply the steps you should take immediately if you want success and longevity within your own business ventures!Key notes from the episode: Bedros believes that the most capable men need to exercise their voice to regain one’s country’s freedom and it is necessary to prioritize which battles are more important to fight for (00:36) Instead of focusing on creating divisions, people should focus on unifying and enable constructive conversations and how Bedros built one of the fastest growing franchises in the country (06:28) How Bedros started his personal training business and eventually leading to the creation of FitBody Bootcamp franchise and how they handled the business during the pandemic (10:00) How Bedros experienced the American Dream firsthand and its opportunities and discussed the importance of being prepared for hardships (19:00) The importance of having a system in place when it comes to protecting ways, cultures, and values. He also talked about his experience pivoting brick-and-mortar fitness centers to online coaching services during the pandemic, as well as encourage ‘pivot or perish’ mentality (26:12) The biggest threat to human isn’t external factors like AI or politics, but rather their own inner dialogue and narrative (33:46) Importance of adult self-awareness (39:35) This episode is packed with energy, wisdom, and passion and we know you will get a ton of value from this.To keep up with Bedros Keuilian, follow him on Instagram @bedroskeuilian and his website www.bedroskeuilian.comLearn more by visiting our website at www.theradcast.comSubscribe to our YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/c/RadicalHomeofTheRadcastIf you enjoyed this episode of The Radcast, Like, Share, and leave us a review! If you enjoyed this episode and want to learn more, join Ryan’s newsletter https://ryanalford.com/newsletter/ to get Ferrari level advice daily for FREE. Learn how to build a 7 figure business from your personal brand by signing up for a FREE introduction to personal branding https://ryanalford.com/personalbranding. Learn more by visiting our website at www.ryanisright.comSubscribe to our YouTube channel www.youtube.com/@RightAboutNowwithRyanAlford. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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You're listening to the Radcast, a top 25 worldwide business podcast.
If it's radical, we cover it.
Here's your host, Ryan Alford.
Hey guys, what's up?
Welcome to the latest edition of the Radcast.
We say if it's radical, we cover it.
Well, it's as radicals it gets today's talking to Bedros Killian, founder and CEO of Fit Body Camp,
author of Man Up, How to Cut the Bullshit, and kick ass in business and life.
Kill you. My brother. What's up, brother? What's happening? I'm doing well. Right. Thank you for having me. Man. I appreciate the opportunity.
Yeah, man. I'm pumped to have you. We know a lot of the same people. And, you know, I've been following you for a while. Admire from afar. You got to be pumped up all the time. Your book's awesome. I think you're a great inspiration for what we need in today's world. Motivation, positivity, but a little kick in the damn ass. You know, it ain't all sunshines and flowers and roses all day.
That is true.
What's going on in your world these days?
Well, I've got to tell you, man, I'm just intrigued in watching the downfall of our Greek country
and wondering when the most capable men who can exercise their voice will decide to actually
stand up and be men and exercise their voice so that we can win back our country.
It is the last free country, thanks to our constitution, but it is also being raised.
radically eroded away, pun intended. And so
with that in mind, when are the men going to stand up? Because
in the, you know, one thing I always say, and you ask this question, it already
triggered me. So I'm just going to jump into this real quick.
Go, brother. If I were to, see, I come from a communist country. I escaped the
Soviet Union as a kid. My dad was a member of
the communist regime. And his whole thing was, we're going to
to go to a country that affords us freedom and opportunity so long as you serve that country.
And he said it's backed by this document called the Constitution. Cool. So we escape in 1980.
I was six years old and we come here. And in that time, we've seen the slow erosion of the
constitution of our freedoms, of our liberties. And of course of that First Amendment, the
freedom of speech, which is backed by the Second Amendment, the right to bear arms. And we're seeing
a constant attack on that. And I share this with you because
when our rights were being encroached and people think, well, someone else is going to go and do something about it. I'm sure someone else is working on it. That's what happened when, and during World War II, when Germany killed millions of Jews. Everyone else thought that someone else would stop it. And so I'm just here to maybe message to people that we are that someone else.
Yeah. I mean, we're just going to get hard and heavy, quick and fast. It's well a love about it. So where did this,
Where did it all start, man?
Where did this erosion begin?
I don't know where there's this fine line with me personally where we can't all personally attack every single issue in life.
And you can fight me on that.
But like I just have so many battles that I can fight.
And we need to fight some battles and maybe fight some wars, not too many battles.
I don't know where the structure falls.
And then there's the common sense that there's this erosion of the things that you're talking about.
and accepting things that shouldn't be accepted as Americans,
I don't know where that started to fall,
but I also don't know how many things can we take all on at once.
Am I just being, you know, a puss about that?
Or like, how do you fight?
Which battles do you fight?
Yeah, well, like, you have kids.
I'm sure you got kids, right?
Yeah, I got four boys.
There you go.
So you got four boys.
And so you know this.
With your boys, you have to pick and choose your battles.
Yeah.
If you can't battle everything.
Like my son is 17 years old.
two years ago at 15, he said, hey, mom, dad, I think I want to get my ears pierced.
And apparently he had been working up to that for two weeks, thinking about how he's going
to pitch us, et cetera.
Now, I immediately was like, what do you want to get in your ears?
He's like, just a couple of studs.
I'm like, cool, done.
I knew that wasn't a battle I'm willing to fight.
Now, if he said, hey, mom and dad, I'm 15 and I want to get a back tattoo, that might be
a battle I'm willing to fight.
So you're absolutely right, bro, and that we can't fight every battle.
Just like in business, we need singularity of focus if we want to accomplish the outcome.
And so there's a lot of small battles that are common sense battles.
Like, do I, am I going to fight the battle of people's pronouns right now?
Probably not.
Like I can care less.
Call yourself a bookshelf if you want.
But I will fight the battle of the erosion of the dollar.
I will fight the battle of the inflation that's taking place.
I will want to fight the battle where we've got a commander in chief who I believe
has some cognitive dysfunction.
And we've all turned a blind eye to all of that.
Those are all battles worth fighting.
I will fight the battle of censorship of our First Amendment.
It's the First Amendment for a reason.
I will fight the battle of the erosion of our Second Amendment.
So we do need singular to be a focus.
And then, you know, given Jocco Willink a shout out for his book, Extreme Ownership,
he talks about prioritize and execute.
So if those were the five or six big battles to fight to be able to save our country,
Like during the pandemic, man, I run a fitness franchise, Fit Body Boot Camp.
You know, we had over 700 locations worldwide.
And during the 10 months of 2020, we lost over 200 franchise locations.
I had to pick and choose the battles I needed to fight to be able to save locations,
to be able to save certain states that were more friendly to letting us run our gyms and, you know,
maybe let others die.
And so you have to prioritize and execute.
But it's not impossible.
It's just we have to have that conversation as a nation.
And until that happens, and I think it will.
It's unfortunate that it has to get so bad, almost like, you know, when someone's like an alcoholic in the family and they're crashing their cars, they're getting arrested.
But it reaches a point where the whole family gets together to have that intervention.
I feel like we need to have a national intervention.
And I feel like we might be coming up to that sooner than later.
I think the only way we can get there is if we could somehow figure out that it's not a left and right decision.
This is a common sense American discussion.
You know, like, this isn't about right.
This isn't about left.
This is about fucking American rights and about the American way of being able to speak our minds, have freedom of speech, carry guns.
Perhaps what the Second Amendment is, you know.
But everything is so fucking left and right.
you can't, it's so polarizing and so like you can't just have a fundamental discussion.
And that's the shit that just drives me crazy.
Yeah.
Well, here's the thing on that, though.
If you and I decided that we're going to team up and we're going to invade, oh, I don't
know, let's say we're going to invade Canada.
They're pretty late back and chill.
We're like you get that done.
Right.
You and I are going to build this massive army and navy and you and I are going to invade Canada and take over,
and we're going to call it Ryan and Badrosland.
And now, as you and I are planning over your kitchen table,
we're probably not, we're probably going to go, all right, dude,
are we worried about the elderly people of Canada?
No, no, we're not.
Are we worried about the children of Canada to attack us and fight us back?
No, not worried about them.
Are we worried about the women?
Are we worried about the women?
No, no, we're not about the word of the word.
We're worried about the capable, able-bodied men.
All right, so then before we go into Canada, what should we do?
Well, hey, Ryan, why don't we take the next 15, 20 years and create an erosion
of the fiber of masculinity,
create this dysfunction in men, weaken them,
make them docile, make them dependent, confuse them,
separate them by class, separate them by left and right,
separate them by black and white,
separate them by, you know, the jab or no jab,
have so many elements that separate them
so that they can't come together as a tribe, as an army,
to stand up against our opposition.
And so it kind of seems like,
I'm not a tinfoil hat kind of guy,
but it kind of seems like they've done a damn good job separating the country from left to right to black and white to all those different things because when you do you don't have unity, which is why we need to become a family again and have that intervention to get old cousin Joe out of that seat.
Yeah, you read The Art of War.
Yes.
With a better, better, better strategy than what you just described, you know, it almost seems intentional, right?
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
But again, I'm not here to be political and all that stuff, man.
I'm a free market capital.
Capitalist.
I want to make a ton of money and do a lot of good with it.
So I certainly want to keep the conversation positive.
But we do need to have these conversations so people do start thinking for themselves and not being told how to think.
And I think that's the takeaway, Badros, right there.
You know, for everybody listening, you know, we've gone heavy and hard right at it.
But you need to hear this because we need to think for yourself and think clearly and not be leaned or pointed towards one direction because of,
popularity or whatever, you need to be convicted.
And I think that's what it's about.
Bators, I do want to give some props and some attention to your background and history.
Obviously, you can pick up your book and they can do enough Googling.
I don't want to, you know, wear that out.
And I think you're such a good storyteller.
I think you're just having such an amazing foundation.
I do want to do some justice to that for the audience.
We're talking a little bit about that story, building up one of the fastest growing franchises in the country.
So let's talk a little bit about that background
Sure
So the background of how I came to that
It's it for the background of how I build the franchise
Yeah, let's start
You know
We'll do let's do justice to both of those
Because I think that's an important story
Because about what we started down this path
Of American way, the American country
I think your history is what matters
In that foundational
Of what sets your mind where it is
Yeah, yeah I agree
So really when you just imagine my dad through the sky,
he said he's like, he's 89 years old today, alive and well.
And in his 40s, he came to the conclusion.
Well, building it up to that, but in the 40s, he decided that I'm going to pull the trigger
and I'm going to escape the Soviet Union.
So we're Armenian, Armenia was under Soviet control, Russian control.
My dad was one of the 18% of the population that was actually a member of the Communist Party.
So he was a card carry party member, a communist party member, and people always go, well, my choice, right?
Yeah, but if you said no, when they asked you to get party member, you're shipped off to Siberia and never to be heard from again.
So long story short, this being left to a communist passport at home all the time.
Never take it out with them, never exercise his right to be able to question people and to be able to check businesses.
All the businesses were run by the system.
Everybody worked for the state.
And so part of being a Communist Party member is you can do surprise inspections in the region that you're in.
My dad was just like, hey, live with that thing.
And he's the guy that wore Georgians, or Rayvans, listened to Elvis.
He was a whole-on American eyes.
And so he decides that we're going to escape.
So he does a lot of side gigs, collects about 25,000 rules, which is enough to bribe the people that needed to bribe to allow us to escape.
aging Italy, 10 days into Italy.
And my dad always the plans that I tell this part of the story
exactly as it happened.
We went to the American consul in Italy.
We said we declared ourselves as political refugees.
We said we wanted to legally enter the United States.
And so after 10 days of pumping my dad for information,
after all, this party member,
they healed enter us into the United States.
My dad chose California of all places because, hey, why not?
beautiful weather, great topography, and you never have to see snow again.
And I love this state.
And I will stay in the state and for the bunch of people shit on it.
You'll never find a better state, climate, and geography.
I can guarantee you that.
I've traveled the entire world.
But anyway, that said, the difficulty said, is this country offers some freedom
and opportunity so long as you serve the people in it.
Find a solution to serve people at value.
And so I just, being the youngest of the family, believe that wholeheartedly.
decided that's what we're going to do. Now, I got to tell you, we grew up in sectionate housing,
which is government-assisted housing. My dad worked three or four jobs at any given time
to be able to make enough money to pay for our strict whole apartments that we lived in.
One of the times I got lice because the apartment that we lived in was so filthy. My mom had to have
my dad siphon out gas leaves on the park cart to wash my hair with gas, and you couldn't
even afford Lysstream Ed. So I didn't speak English. I didn't understand the standard culture. All
it is add value in certain humanity, add-value, serve.
man as I grew up, I just took a liking for fitness and decided that I was going to the
personal training space and I wanted to help people transform their bodies and their minds.
You know this.
You're in great shape.
When you transform your body, their mind follows, you become more optimistic, more positive,
more focused, more disciplined, mental toughness, all those things.
Confidence, so forth and I love seeing my clients do that.
So I get asked myself, how do I scale my personal training distance?
Thankfully, one of my personal training clients, this older gentleman, Jim Branco,
very true, because you'll never be able to scale unless you know how to sell.
And you're a horrible sale like a kid.
I was, shit, that, that.
And I, you know, said, Jim, I vetted what I sued you with a six-month training program three times a week.
He goes, like seven grand that you paid, man.
He goes, I came in wanting to say, well, probably three times a week.
You just took my order.
And no one had ever spoken to me that directly before.
and goes, you're an order taker, not the salesperson,
and until you can learn to sell, you're never going to grow.
And so, he really could getters.
And he could be multi-operating the automotive industry,
and he brought me Zig Zigler cassette tapes,
Brian Tracy books, Bob Hopkins.
Like, I was introduced to all these salespeople,
and I would listen to the cassette tapes,
I would read the books,
and I started to develop the skill of persuasion
and it blew its sales,
and overcoming objections.
And before I knew it,
There was four or five, six trainers were to water them 100ly before I knew that.
He loaned money at 8% interest to open a pile of little studio.
That led to four more.
That led for coaching and consulting gym owners.
That led for starting this giant empire, fit body, food care.
So as the housing market crashed back in 2008, I knew that one-on-one personal training
was not going to be a thing anymore at that point.
And so I had learned from Jim Franco that any time there's a disaster, there's people capitalizing
on a disaster.
like when the stock market crashes, housing market crash,
anytime there's a disaster, not everyone loses their money.
He taught me that money doesn't just go away, it exchanges hands.
And the example he gave me was, he goes, even at the worst of economy,
you can see people drive in Mercedes, Land Rovers, Rolls Royces, Bentley's, etc.
And so he goes, you just have to find who's got the money
and end up adding value to their life.
With that in mind, housing market crashed in 2008.
I knew people weren't going to be able to afford one-on-one expensive personal training,
So I said, if we can take that outdoor boot camp,
the personal trainers do outside group training,
bring it indoors with equipment, a system, and legitimize it.
I can create a franchise system where it's one trainer, many clients,
and bring down the cost of personal training
because it will be a group environment, group personal training.
That's how Fit Body Bootcamp was born.
Like, within the first two years, we had hit 100 locations.
And, you know, as we grew to 200, 300, 300, 400, 500,
locations worldwide and beyond, we were hitting the Inc. 5,000 list, entrepreneur 200
fastest scoring franchise lists. And what I had realized at that point is whenever there is a disaster,
you can become a solution and therefore create a new product to serve humanity.
And so that's how Fit Body Boot Camp grew. And through there, as we grew beyond 500 FitBody Boot Camp
locations and the average location has 300 to 500 paying clients, you know, they'll pay about
$249 a month, I realized, all right, what else do our clients need? So here's another great
opportunity for entrepreneurs. Like, all right, if you're serving people who are trying to get
fit, lose weight, what else do they need? Well, they probably need supplements. They need
protein. They need hydration supplements. They need something to help them with their immune
system and inflammation. So I said, well, why not create a supplement line as well? So we created
truly a supplement company that serves our clients throughout Fit Body, Buickablo,
locations worldwide. And here's the crazy thing about that. You fast forward all these years
in 2020 when the pandemic took place and nobody was buying a gym franchise for me because
everyone thought that gyms were, well, gyms were struggling. Jims and restaurants took it in the
shorts. You know that. And so it actually surprised me that in 2020, we actually sold six
new franchise locations. And I was like, every time someone would buy one. And like, are you
sure you're buying a franchise location for me right now? They go, yeah. You know, I'm not going to
give you a refund. That was very transparent. At that point, I'm going to do it in sales because we had,
we had, you know, we didn't have much, we have a thin skeleton staff. Yeah. And I said,
listen, I know things will turn around with the economy and when they do, you're going to be
in a good opportunity. But just to give you some contrast, we would normally, before the pandemic,
we would sell six to eight new franchise locations per month. And now all of 2020 sold six locations.
And so I was just grateful for those six because, you know, in that time, we also lost over two
franchise locations. But here's a beautiful thing about it is when the pandemic happened and
gyms have to shut down, our supplement company started to hockey stick. And our immune system
product, because everybody was really into building their immune system, trying to fight off
the virus, that thing went on Amazon and just started blowing up. So there's so much to be said about
creating multiple income streams because when one stream dries up, you've got another stream
that might hockey stick and really keep you afloat. And so I've had the good,
fortune, obviously, over the years to build many income streams by investing in companies,
apparel companies, software, et cetera. But my two core companies, FitBody Boot Camp, the international
franchise, and Trulene thankfully continue to thrive. And they're in an industry where I love
serving people, making them better, building their immune system, building their health and
confidence. And so that's always the industries that I like to play. Yeah.
Bejaro, there's a lot to impact there and really appreciate you going backwards from the beginning.
I mean, the biggest, you know, there's about 12 takeaways.
Let me start with the first one.
We talk about the American dream and we talk about the opportunities as Americans.
Then, you know, I see a lot of people they talk all the time about like how blessed you are like to wake up if you're born in America and the opportunities that are at your feet no matter like how bad it is.
But you know, you're an immigrant.
You were not born in America, but came over, had the opportunity.
but saw the American dream and how you took it by the balls and, you know, like, have become what
everybody wants to. Like, what, where is that, I don't know that it's been lost, but where did that,
is it just hoods, is it nature or nurture? Like, I hear, I hear guys like you, Bezos that I just
want to, like, you know, like man hug and, like, high five, you know, like, in the best possible way,
you know, and I'm like, but where does that come from? Is this?
it nature or nurture? Like, is it just because you wanted it more? I don't know. When you,
when you've eaten out of dumpsters, when you've lived in Section 8 housing, had your hair washed
with gasoline, when you've seen people yelling at your parents and telling him to go back
in your own fucking country, you're taking our great American jobs, which, by the way, my dad
had a, when we first came, the first two years, he had a newspaper route at 2 a.m. I don't think
anybody wanted that job. That he was a busboy at a pizzeria, and then he pumped gas at
an ARCO in the middle of the night. So that wasn't necessarily.
the great American dream that he was living, but he knew that the sacrifices were going to make.
But so I got to see a contrast, right? And I really believe that if every American, when they turn
like 18 years old, have to go and either go into the military to see the world and what real
racism is, what real, what real criminals, other countries, governments are, they would come back
and they would love and defend this great country of ours so much because they wouldn't want it to change.
road. And if it's not the military, then at least we should be made to go out and serve another
country, build a well, build a school, build homes, build something in third world countries
so that you can have a contrast when you come back and can appreciate it. But if you grew up
in a great country like this where you could literally have your face in your phone walking down
a parking lot at 10 o'clock at night, feeling safe that you're not going to get mugged, like,
come on, that doesn't happen. You go to Armenia, bro, you have your face in the phone. Someone's
clubbing you over the head right now, today, until you're not.
taking your shit. And so I share that with you because I don't know if it's nature or nurture.
I think it's just a contrast because the American dream is not dead. It's completely changed.
I think it's actually the barrier to the American dream. And I think you'd agree with me is lower
because today you've got you've got the internet. So if I was broke, if I was broke when I had
some back. Okay. You can use my goofy little iPhone to create how to videos and put them on
Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube and Facebook, and that would, the algorithm would help me build an
audience. And then I would go get a free WordPress site and I'd make a sales page, a website.
I'd use PayPal, which is free, and I could take payments. And all of a sudden I've got now PayPal,
I've got a list, social media, I've got a platform, I can add a course and sell it, like,
or have a coaching program, or maybe leverage some money for somebody,
say, look, I'll do the sweat. And you give me $30,000. I'm going to create a supplement line and we're
going to sell it. The barrier is so much lower because you've got access to social media. You've got
access to a free website. You can take money for free. What is happening, though, is we've been
conditioned to be comfortable. We are too, everything is too convenient. You can order on Grubhub
or DoorDash your burrito and watch it come down your neighborhood streets. And people get
huffy and puffy when it's stopped at a red light. And you just,
wondering where your burritos. Motherfucker, get out and buy your burrito. Go out and build a
burrito. Make a burrito. When you get so complacent and comfortable of doing all this shit,
then why would you want to even make a free website, make a how-to video? People have just gotten
so lazy they expect money to roll in. But many years ago, 20 Robbins said something. I was sharing
the stage with him at Joe Polish's event at the Genius Network event. This was 2016,
and he was clapping his big giant hands. And I was getting miced up to
speak next and I was very intimidated by Tony
Robbins like how do you follow that giant of the
man and he's clapping his big giant hands
on his stage and he goes winter is coming
prepare for winter anybody can
thrive in summer and spring
but winter is coming you should be built for winter
and I was like that motherfucker's right
like we could all do great when the
economy's thriving but sometimes
the economy is going to shit whether it's an act
of war on her country like in 2001
whether it's a pandemic
whether it's a stock market crash housing market crash
winter will always come
and what's happening now winter has come and it's getting colder and you're seeing people die literally
and metaphorically financially emotionally mentally but it's going to be a thinning of the herd
and those of us that have what it takes are going to thrive out of this i'm going to ask you a question
and it's not it has it has nothing to do with anything i thought i was going to ask you but based on what
you just answered so the next thing i'm going to ask is is your ability to pivot and i think people don't
appreciate exactly what that means or the power of that, which you have a true strength in.
I'm going to come back to that, but I'm going to cede that with you right now.
As an immigrant and as being someone believes in American dream, sees all that,
how do you, where do you fall in the open borders situation?
Like, is that a, is that a tough one for you or an easy one for you?
No, that's an easy one for me, man.
Lock down the borders, period.
Yeah.
I came in legally.
I entered the country legally.
We did the paperwork that was necessary.
We entered legally.
And when you come to a country legally and you pay your dues and you're going to be paying taxes and putting into Social Security, you are going to value the place more.
And no, no, never mind that.
And it's not to say that anyone comes in illegally isn't going to value it.
Obviously, people are risking their lives to cross the Rio Grande.
They're risking their lives to go over those walls, walk through the desert.
I get it.
But also amongst those people.
are really bad dudes that are bringing in fentanyl,
really bad dudes that might be bringing in dirty bombs
because I also have dear friends like Tim Kennedy
and others who are great Americans, great patriots,
connected to the military and have a lot of access to information.
And when I get to hear from them,
what they're catching at the border,
I wonder what's not being caught that's coming in
that's going to be a dirty bomb,
more drugs or some kind of child abduction,
like what is going to happen?
Because we're not betting who's coming in.
All I'm saying is let's bet who comes in.
You would never let open your doors and just let strangers come into your party, would you?
Absolutely.
You'd have an imitation.
Yep.
Right.
It's the same thing.
Let's just bet people out.
That's all.
Ding, ding, ding.
Listen, folks, you know, you have to have a system and process in place to know who's coming in your front door or your back door.
And look, if there's not a condition for it to happen, then there needs to be.
Because you've got to be able to appreciate it.
You've got to understand our ways and cultures and values, you know?
So, boom, there it is for people that don't understand why.
There has to be some protections there.
Now, let's talk about some business.
Pivoting.
You know, you talked for, I don't know, 15 minutes.
Who knows how long it was?
It doesn't matter.
And you know all I heard?
This fucker knows how to pivot.
He knows, and it is a skill because everybody gets so locked in.
This is my baby.
This is my business.
It's going nowhere.
No, you got to pivot that shit.
And that's what you are brilliant at.
I see it.
I hear it.
You've done it in a million ways.
We even talked about some of your coaching stuff, but talk to me about, is it just smart?
I'm sorry, I just get back this nature versus nurture when I've talked to guys that I like, that are successful.
But tell me about pivoting, because that's what you did, you know, like understanding and the nuance of what's happening.
So in 2020, the term pivot was just like overplayed, right?
You saw on a Fox news CNN, and everyone was talking about pivoting.
And people think that it was exclusive to 2020, 2021.
No, I'm talking about 2008 when you pivoted.
You're the master pivoter.
Group fitness.
You said literally yourself, you were talking about it.
And I don't know.
I'm like, did it sky coin group fitness?
Because that is essentially what happened when personal training took a dive.
It was group fitness.
That became the word pivot and fitness.
But that was it.
And so what happens is most people pivot, they just don't entrepreneurs pivot.
They just don't realize it because it happens slowly over time.
Like the one, you know, technology comes, marketing gets more sophisticated.
consumers become more educated in the way they buy. And so businesses evolve in terms of transparency
like Edmonds.com was created back in the day. And now you could see what the sticker price of a car is.
And so there's more sophisticated buyers. And so dealerships have these little window stickers that said,
hey, this is our best price we're going to offer you. We don't haggle. No slimy sales guys.
Just buy it or not, right? So things do slowly change. That is a pivot. It just happens slowly over time.
And in 2020, I developed this little term here at our headquarters.
I was like, guys, we either pivot or we perish.
Like, everything was pivot or perish.
And because when changes happen quickly, like on March 16th, 2020, I announced to all
of our franchise locations.
I said, guys, close down your locations for two weeks.
We're all going to flatten the curve.
Because all we knew at that time, Ryan, was that this is some kind of a death virus, right?
And so they said two weeks.
But I come from a communist country, and I've been taught to never trust big government.
So while I said, we're going to shut down for two weeks.
So when the video turned off, I turned to the CEO of my company, Bryce, and I said,
Bryce, prepare to be shut down for a few months.
And so let's start building online coaching models, workouts, videos, Facebook pages, YouTube,
Facebook groups, et cetera, for all of our franchise locations so that if this goes beyond two weeks,
we can move all the clients online.
Because I knew one thing we were not going to do, we were not going to shut down our franchise brand like Orange Theory did and say,
well, sorry, figure it out. We're not going to charge you a franchise royalty. That means I have to
fire all my employees. You might have to fire your employees. And sad, man. So sure is, sure as shit,
we went well beyond the two weeks. And so we, by week number four, we pivoted to online coaching
and all of those clients kept paying our franchise locations. Our franchise locations kept paying
their royalties to us. So we were able to support them. And we just continued to pivot as we went,
creating different coaching programs and models. And if you don't pivot, you will perish.
Sometimes pivots happen slowly over time and sophistication.
Other times, a dramatic life event will force you to pivot.
And if you don't, if all these motherfuckers take the wait and see approach,
they end up dying, which is good for the rest of us because we take on more market share.
Boom.
Love it.
What?
What's the Baderos personal brand?
When you hear that word, do you cringe when you hear personal brand?
Like, it's become like a bad word, you know?
like it's overplayed and look as a marketer and it's a writer like and i've written you know can you
hear me now like you know coming up with some some creative lines in my history i struggle with
what to call paid personal branding that's not personal brand because it's gotten such a bad rap but
when i hear the bedro's name like you know that's a personal brand like but what's your feeling
on that so if you if you had asked me this 10 years ago i would have been like bro shut up
you know like i come from the dan kennedy gary halber direct response world right and like you know
Oh, I know the world. I know exactly. Shit, you say those names. I know exactly what that means.
Yeah. And so like for me, and especially you're into direct response if you were, you know, broke because you go, I got $1. I got to turn this to $2. Like I can't put up a billboard like Coca-Cola or Gatorade and the bus bench. And they go, well, you know, it's branding. And one of those billboards or bus benches are going to get me a client. I got to know, I got to hold every dollar accountable. So I grew up like locked on to direct response and that was my Bible. But up until about five years.
ago when I started watching what the rock does. I'm also very observant. And I think, you know,
going back to what you said, nature and nurture, I am factory installed by nature, very observant.
I learn more by watching than by being taught. And so I was like, dude, I like the rock. I watch
WWF. I'm a hillbilly somewhat of a, you know, I grew up very blue collar. And so how did this wrestler
become an actor and not even a great actor,
but then create a personal brand.
Like, what the fuck does he know about tequila?
What does he know about shoes?
What does he know about water?
What does he know about ice cream?
What does he know about movies?
What does he know about football that he just bought the XFL?
When he became a personal brand,
people knew him, liked him, trusted him,
connected with him, saw him as the everyday guy.
They very quickly began to buy everything he sold.
And I said, this motherfucker's onto something.
not the best actor. He's not the best athlete. Like, if you read his story, like, he didn't even
making the Canadian fucking football league, bro. Right? And I love The Rock. Like, and I love him.
In fact, I think six months ago, he started following me and I texted a mutual friend and I said,
hey, I think the Rock accidentally followed me. You might want to tell him to unfollow me,
just being facetious, Phil Heath, seven times, Mr. Olivia. And, and feels like, no, man,
he doesn't accidentally follow anyone. Yeah. So, you know, but I realized very quickly,
he knows how to connect,
which is what you do as a marketer,
which is what I do as a marketer.
I connect with people,
and that is a personal brand.
So I think when you develop a personal brand
where people know you like, you trust,
you see the dark and the light side of you,
get to meet your family, your dog,
what your lifestyle is,
you show transparency.
They have such a deep connection
that if I started promoting fucking,
I don't know, cough drops,
I could start selling cough drops.
And so because of that,
I started wearing fuel hunt shirts
just because I like the brand.
I liked the brand.
I was a customer.
They reached out to me and said,
hey, every time you wear our shirts
on your podcast and on stage,
you move the money needle.
I said, well, can we jump on the phone?
They thought, we're going to jump on the phone
so they can start sending me free clothes and I could wear it.
I'm like, hey, how much can I invest
to take 20% of the company?
I made an investment to 20% of the company
because I'm a brand,
and when the brand wears it,
the money needle moves.
I think that was the day.
I love that.
Right.
Yes.
Right.
So there you go, man.
I may convert to personal branding, even though I hate that term myself.
I do too.
I hate it.
But I use it because people know what it is.
But Medros is definitely a personal brand.
It's while you're sitting here on the Radcast.
But it's just amazing.
I just don't understand why people don't get it.
It's like it took me a while to get over the cringe worthiness, but I don't know what the block is.
You know?
Like, what's that?
Roadblock? Is it just, is it just, I am worried about other people's what they think about me.
Like, I mean, is that just what it is? They, you know, I do wonder that because social media has done it where people have become so worried about how many people like and share and engage.
Yeah. People have become hyper-sensitive to that. And so, you know, me, I can give two shits. I'll post a piece of content and I'm like, wow, this was going to pop off. I'm like, oh, that did nothing. Oh, well, maybe tomorrow's will pop up.
I never know what episode on my podcast or what social media post is going to pop up.
I just listen to my gut, my radiance.
Whatever the source tells me to write, I write, or write, I orate.
And then if it pops off, I'm like, well, look at that.
They wanted to learn, you know, the seven things that men do to ruin their lives.
Here I thought they wanted to make a build a $200 million empire like I did.
The $200 million empire show, like flopped.
The seven things men do to ruin their lives popped off.
If you had asked me to bet on that, I would have lost a lot of money.
well yeah
you just never know
you gotta it's uh
educate and entertain
a lot or just be human man
people it's got to be more humanity
you got to be human
you know people say what's your schick
it's not B to B it's not B to C
it's B to H
this is a human
like we're all human beings
we relate to one another
you know like stop eating
yeah you know
that's the that's the formula
right there
so uh what's
what's our biggest threat today?
What's like we talked,
I think we may have started at the beginning.
We end at the beginning with literally, you know,
but maybe from a business standpoint, you know,
you got AI, you got GPT, everybody gets scared about shit.
I'm just like, that's a tool, man.
But what do you see is, what are the gray clouds and the,
and the blue sky?
Like, what, for, for Bejros?
Yeah, so I'll start out.
I'll hit you with three categories.
Our biggest threat to our country right now is the debt that our country is in and China and who we're in debt too.
Yeah.
And we need a great leader.
Our greatest threat is that.
We're in a country.
We're in too much debt.
We're in debt to China.
And China has become a very large superpower.
And we have a very weak leader in power.
So that is the threat to our country.
In terms of threat to businesses, it's not chat GPT or AI.
I think just like the internet, people that were like in the beginning back in 1998, 99, man, the internet is the whole thing.
And then when they had that whole bubble burst in 2000, people were like, oh, man, the internet's just a fad.
It's going to go away.
There were headlines, New York Times, L.A. Times, Internet's a fad.
No, we just figured out how to use it to become more efficient.
AI, while it sounds scary when you hear headlines like, oh, my God, two computers started to talk to each other.
And what if, and one of them said they want to come alive and feel emotions.
Listen, do I just water my mind as I'm going shifting from one meeting to another, like what would happen of chat GPT and that Boston Dynamics robot ended up like connecting?
You know, I do wonder like, what would happen?
What would happen?
Then I go, oh, we just need to make sure that motherfucker can't plug himself in.
And then as soon as the battery dies were going.
But then I move on because humanity typically leans towards pessimism.
We go, it's going to be bad for us.
when in reality AI is making shitty copywriters, better copywriters.
It's really helping people understand and search for things better.
There's always a benefit to it.
Gary Vaynerchuk, many years ago, five years ago, posted a black and white photo from New York.
People were in subways back in the 50s.
Everyone's got a newspaper open and they're facing the newspaper.
And the modern version of that is people are on buses and subways on their iPhones.
So, you know, when people go, well, the good old days, people would talk.
Like, there was a picture from the 1950s where the entire subway was packed full of people with their face and their information.
Information is king.
And that person who can give information, disseminate information, feed information, with humor, with entertainment, in a way that's easily digestible will always win.
So I'm not threatened by AI, I think.
We just need to figure out how to use it in our favor.
And over time, we figure things out.
And then finally, what's the biggest threat to humans, to individuals, while we all worry about, hey, who's our president, you know, AI and all that stuff.
The biggest thing you got to worry about is the conversation that takes place right between your ears, man.
The inner self-talk, that is it, the story that people tell themselves, that I was broke, I was molested.
Look, I was molested as a kid.
I'm a foreigner.
I came to this country.
If I list off all the things why I should be drunk and hopped up on drugs and suicidal, bro, there's a million reasons why I should.
But if I don't tell my story to myself and feel sorry to myself, instead go, all those things made me more resilient, more resourceful, and therefore, I'm more compassionate towards humanity.
I'm just going to keep creating solutions the problems people have, and I'm going to charge money for it and be able to put that money to good use.
The story that we tell ourselves, the conversation that we have, the biggest threat to an individual.
And if they can control that narrative between their ears, they will control their life.
boom there it is
our egos are the biggest liar that ever existed
and if you with adults know that you
need to know it
Badros I'm going to ask a favor
I'm going to ask a favor I'm going to ask favor
Can we do this again in like three to six months
We need a part two
Bro I would be honored with Beidros
Because I want there's so many things
Lays I want to get in
But I value your time
And I really
Our people are our audience likes to
To snack on these things
and, you know, we're going to give them a few snacks of Badros,
because I feel like you got so much knowledge to tell you.
You got so much.
And look, I consider you like one of those, one of our real modern leaders right now.
And I think people need to understand your perspective and growing men
and some of the stuff you're doing behind the scenes with that.
And I really want to go down those channels with you if you'll do me that honor in the next few months.
Brother, I would be honored to do that.
And I would have gotten, thank you for that opportunity.
Yeah.
Beidros, the BK podcast, author of Man Up,
How to Cut the Bullshit and Kickass in Business?
How can everybody keep help with you, brother?
Best way to find me is on YouTube and Instagram at Bedroskulian.
Beidreus Kulian.
I'll tell you what, guys, if it's radical, we cover it.
Beidros is fucking radical, and you need to go buy his book.
You need to listen to his show, and you need to follow him on Instagram, all his content,
and whatever he says, what the algorithm says.
I don't give a fuck what the algorithm says.
It's good shit.
Bairos, appreciate your brother for coming on today.
Thank you, Matt.
I appreciate you, Ryan.
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